simple test of new Conroe-L

[wy4711]

the message is from china:
http://forum.coolaler.com/showthread.php?t=140458


800FSb,2.4G,512K L2

super pi 1M 32.657s
http://xs208.xs.to/xs208/06442/CONROE-L-NOR.JPG


the performance is very like the single core K8,and it's very very cool.

i think it can be easy OCed upto 5G.

[lowfat]

ouch those Pi's are horrible. The 512 of l2 really seems to hinder the CPU.

[LagunaX]

Ugh, those superpi times look like an opteron 165/170 at 2.7-2.8ghz!

Get Coolaler to put his tuniq tower 120 on it and see how far it can go on air! :cool:

[Arska]

Is this similar to the hyped E4300 that's supposed to come out early next year? Doesn't really look that interesting.

[metro.cl]

Is this similar to the hyped E4300 that's supposed to come out early next year? Doesn't really look that interesting.

yes same thing.

You still need to know OC potencial & price to see if it is good or not.

maybe someone could test it at 1066 FSB to see how the diference in cache affects super pi

[LagunaX]

don't think it's the same. This one is a single core processor. The e4300 is a dual core with 800fsb. multi is 9 on the e4300, so should be a decent cheap 3.6ghz overclocker...:cool:

[caater]

i think conroe L has also reduced cache assiociativity, like all celerons.
and that's the main thing hindering perfomance.
e4000 series are still using allendale core.
there's going to be even 1M singlecore conroe version, it will sale under "pentium" brand :)

[MrDeeds]

Its not so bad considering the cpu is supposed to be under $100

[Phosphate]

Is this similar to the hyped E4300 that's supposed to come out early next year?

I hope its not.

I thought the only difference on the E4300 was the 800 FSB but he L2 cache was the same as the e6300? If that ends up being the case it will be a great clocker.

Actually come to think of it I don't think this is the same chip because the e4300 is rated at 1.8 Ghz (with a 9x multipler---> 9 x200)

[Vassili]

yes same thing.

You still need to know OC potencial & price to see if it is good or not.

maybe someone could test it at 1066 FSB to see how the diference in cache affects super pi
No it is not:
Conroe-L =
Single core
800Mhz FSB
512KB L2 cache

Core 2 Duo E4300 (1.80GHz/533MHz FSB/2MB L2 cache)

[lawrywild]

This is celeron's replacement.. why are you expecting amazing spi times???

[Shaotai]

It's like Conroe-"L"ight or Conroe-"L"ame.... LOL

[ted3]

Conron! Only 512kB cache, is it an AMD in disguise?? =)

Seems like Intel is holding back too much, with 1MB L2 this would have been interesting for budget gaming. Doesnt really matter for me how well this Conron clocks, the cache will be too limiting.

[metro.cl]

No it is not:
Conroe-L =
Single core
800Mhz FSB
512KB L2 cache

Core 2 Duo E4300 (1.80GHz/533MHz FSB/2MB L2 cache)

my bad, sorry and thanks for clarification :)

[mzs_biteme]

I dont think it's all that bad considering it's the "new" Celeron, which means $50~80 range... And with 266FSB, getting SuperPI times comparable with high-end X2's, could be a bargain. Need some more benches though (3Dmark anybody :p: )

[Revv23]

200 fsb is cool, for those with budget boards that dont like over 400 we could see some monster budget OC's.

[Gam3Ra]

That is VERY good result for 1core 512L2 nonOC'd
Run your's Conroe's on 2.4ghz and you will see ~20+ SuperPI's (2cores 2/4MB L2 shared)
With overclock (this will be monster with that FSB and little L2, small temperature = very good OC) this CPU will hit good PI, and if it's 80-100$ range will be good (A64 killer).

[nn_step]

with reduced Caching that is down right horrible performance

[blank]

is the entire difference between this chip and an e6600 just cache?

[nn_step]

And one core
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=95021
21sec vs 32sec. That is one hell of a difference. Conroe is apparently desperately tied to its cache

[mr_knowitall15]

wow that is crippled... On a brighter note, with higher multis, and only one core, surely there can be some seriously sick OCs out of these.

[TaPaKaH]

x12 multi should be good for OC :)

Any more benches ?

[Phosphate]

When does the E4300 debut? Should be pretty soon right?

[Dave DEF]

When does the E4300 debut? Should be pretty soon right?

I want someone to get an ES...

[chrisf6969]

He needs to Overclock It Now!! :)

On a side note, it looks at though the new "Celeron" is going to be called Pentium!? LOL

Kind of funny!

[Donnie27]

Conron! Only 512kB cache, is it an AMD in disguise?? =)

Seems like Intel is holding back too much, with 1MB L2 this would have been interesting for budget gaming. Doesnt really matter for me how well this Conron clocks, the cache will be too limiting.

MooWaHahaha! ROTMFFLMFAO!

[Donnie27]

No it is not:
Conroe-L =
Single core
800Mhz FSB
512KB L2 cache

Core 2 Duo E4300 (1.80GHz/533MHz FSB/2MB L2 cache)

You sure, I thought E4xxx was 800MHz FSB?

[mzs_biteme]

http://www.techpowerup.com/img/06-07-17/A202767TH-2_6TK1IDDr76mr.jpg
Must be getting mixed up with Celerons...:)

[Noob-ftw]

That's pretty cool. Starting at an effective 200 fsb instead of a 266 fsb and having a multiplier of 12.

I'm excited to see people's results.

[mzs_biteme]

That's pretty cool. Starting at an effective 200 fsb instead of a 266 fsb and having a multiplier of 12.

I'm excited to see people's results.

Yup.. Should do 3.2GHz "out of the box" with stock cooling and cheap-ass PC4300 DDR2..... :eek: :toast:

[Noob-ftw]

Yup.. Should do 3.2GHz "out of the box" with stock cooling and cheap-ass PC4300 DDR2..... :eek: :toast:

I would have bought this instead of my week 25 E6300, but I need a dual core.

[mzs_biteme]

I would have bought this instead of my week 25 E6300, but I need a dual core.

It IS a dual core CPU....:D
Just missing VT technology... No biggie...:rolleyes:

[775911]

Its a few seconds faster then my old barton was when overclocked so I do hope its the cheap celeron of the future or theres not much point to it.

Is there a spec sheet for this. Personally having tried dual core I wouldnt go back to single core even if it overclocked 100%

[mzs_biteme]

^^
I have no idea where all you guys are geting the "E4300 is single core" crap out of...:rolleyes: It's a Conroe CPU with slower FSB and no Virtualization Tech. With the same multi as E6600, it should be a breeze to OC it past 3GHZ...:woot:

[wy4711]

That is VERY good result for 1core 512L2 nonOC'd
Run your's Conroe's on 2.4ghz and you will see ~20+ SuperPI's (2cores 2/4MB L2 shared)
With overclock (this will be monster with that FSB and little L2, small temperature = very good OC) this CPU will hit good PI, and if it's 80-100$ range will be good (A64 killer).


:cool: it's $40 - $60!when old P4&celeon sold out.

1/3 cost of Conroe;) single core A64 killer

but it comes too late.i dont want single core CPU any more

[Phosphate]

The e4300 won't be out until the first quarter of 2007, but my guess is that CPU will be the best allendale for OCing. With DDR2 800 memory at stock speeds it could potentially pull a 100% OC.

How much does the Virtualization technology add to performance?

[nn_step]

The e4300 won't be out until the first quarter of 2007, but my guess is that CPU will be the best allendale for OCing.

How much does the Virtualization technology add to performance?
depends greatly on what you are doing. If it is say running VMware, it'll double your performance. If you are just gaming. It wouldn't matter at all

[AgonxOC]

I will keep my DOTHAN thank you... Specially now witht he X1950 PRO AGP coming....... The good thing about it is the OCing that is going to be great....


Alex

[Phosphate]

depends greatly on what you are doing. If it is say running VMware, it'll double your performance. If you are just gaming. It wouldn't matter at all

This might end up being the gamers CPU to get then.

[Donnie27]

^^
I have no idea where all you guys are geting the "E4300 is single core" crap out of...:rolleyes: It's a Conroe CPU with slower FSB and no Virtualization Tech. With the same multi as E6600, it should be a breeze to OC it past 3GHZ...:woot:

I was wondering the same thing but since you were doing such a great job of explaining it I stayed out.

I think the Single Core Conroe-L E1000 series got mixed up with the Dual Core E4300. Conron as the other guy Called them might be a great name and pretty good description. It was a Conron tested and not a Conroe-L, why?

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060921-7801.html


DT also reveals that Conroe-L will be sold under the venerable Pentium and Celeron brand names. The Pentium-branded parts, which will be labeled with the E1000 sequence, will all have an 800MHz FSB and 1MB of L2 cache. The speed ratings are as follows: E1020 at 1.40GHz, E1040 at 1.60GHz, and E1060 at 1.80GHz.

So the Pentium 1000 and Celeron 400 series aren't dead yet.

http://digitimes.com/mobos/a20060919PR207.html


The Pentium E1000 series will initially come in three models–E1060, E1040 and E1020–with respective core speed of 1.8GHz, 1.6GHz and 1.4GHz, indicated the makers. Specifications for the Celeron 400 have not been released, but the series will feature 512KB L2 cache and a 533MHz FSB, the makers added.

So what he tested was in fact the New Celeron 4xx and NOT a true Conroe-L that "desperately" needs its cache.

[Donnie27]

This might end up being the gamers CPU to get then.

That depends! There are plenty of Dual Core patches out there. I'd honestly be shocked if folks really do hit much more than 3GHz with these processors that are re-cycled from the failure bin! That's all Celeron and Durons have always been.

They should be priced to sell and fill a void that Intel needs to fill.

[Turtle 1]

I will keep my DOTHAN thank you... Specially now witht he X1950 PRO AGP coming....... The good thing about it is the OCing that is going to be great....


Alex

Ya when I heard about the X1950 pro AGP . I got a large:) on my face . I will keep my dothan also . holidays around my house are going to very much fun with all the gaming computers . We can have a very merry LAN xmas.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4252

[zert]

It IS a dual core CPU....:D
no it's not!
it's a single core. just look at the cpuz screen.
and yes cpuz is reading it correctly. those new single core "Core" based chips will be the new pentiums and celerons when intel runs out of netburst chips.

I think these chips will clock insane. the 800mhz bus, tiny L2 high multi and so cool.
combine these chips with mobo's natively capable of 1066mhz fsb and those chips will run an easy 1066 fsb with stock cooler and only very little extra vCore. and that price :slobber: it's clocking heaven

[mzs_biteme]

no it's not!
it's a single core.

I know Conroe-L is single core but E4300 is dual.... It got mixed into the thread, when somebody tried comparing the two.... So, you're right, and..... I'm right...:toast:

[Frank M]

The e4300 won't be out until the first quarter of 2007
Damn... :(

[metalazzo]

Ugh, those superpi times look like an opteron 165/170 at 2.7-2.8ghz!

Get Coolaler to put his tuniq tower 120 on it and see how far it can go on air! :cool:
don't be so rude with opty :stick:
I did 33.6sec quite easily with a A64 3200+@2.5GHz and poor tccd @250 2.5-3-3-6
this new cpu performs like a good K8 with 1M of cache :)
edit : at least, stock frequency
but no cold bug so oc is going to by interesting on this cpu :D

[lopri]

A64 @2.7~2.8GHz should get you less than 30secs in 1M. And 3GHz somewhere north of 27secs.

[Turtle 1]

Here's a review of the Conroe L with 1 mb cache runnning @ 2.8 GHz . Its a bit more powerful than a AMD 64 and should O/C to 3.6 easily

http://www.oc.com.tw/article/0611/readolarticle.asp?id=5555