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Nosfer@tu
10-19-2006, 07:14 AM
Get facts, not spin, about Vista’s new license

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=158

Dont really belive they can do that.

Senario, I will 1 motherboard, Kille nr 2 also. = Lost 200 $

WHAT =???????????? :nono: :nono:

perry_78
10-19-2006, 09:24 AM
So you can only install windows vista twice, switch youre mobo 2 times and its over ?

Looks like staying with windows xp forever

Or win2k or win2k3...

Or Ubuntu :p:

uOpt
10-19-2006, 09:32 AM
Looks like I'll never switch away from Linux and FreeBSD ;)

I already think it is a joke that now with SATA you cannot move an existing Windows installation disk to a mainboard with a different SATA controller. How stupid can that OS be?

ochw
10-19-2006, 10:26 AM
can not beleave this is true i mean who is going to buy vista if u can only install it 2 times

uOpt
10-19-2006, 11:10 AM
can not beleave this is true i mean who is going to buy vista if u can only install it 2 times

Well, about ... everybody else? Like people who don't change mainboards more often than their coffee mugs?

Keep in mind you have to call MS already if you reinstall on a different computer after full registration and updating with the same serial number (another reason why I don't use that junk).

sierra_bound
10-19-2006, 11:32 AM
Looks like I'll never switch away from Linux and FreeBSD ;)

Unless you own an X-Fi card which is not currently supported by Linux.;)

Regarding the license agreement, I think this has been discussed at length in another thread. I think the new EULA will only encourage more piracy.

Nosfer@tu
10-19-2006, 11:51 AM
:mad: :mad:
Unless you own an X-Fi card which is not currently supported by Linux.;)

Regarding the license agreement, I think this has been discussed at length in another thread. I think the new EULA will only encourage more piracy.

I got so mad that I HAD TO POST THIS :mad:

You have to buy the 400 $ version to get rid of that problem!
Why even pay then? You will have problems every time anyway...

With XP you could call them and explain that you dident have internet and they would give you a special key.

uOpt
10-19-2006, 11:52 AM
Unless you own an X-Fi card which is not currently supported by Linux.;)


A new soundcard from a sane soundcard maker will be a whole lot cheaper than a new Vista license every two months.

sierra_bound
10-19-2006, 11:55 AM
A new soundcard from a sane soundcard maker will be a whole lot cheaper than a new Vista license every two months.
Yes, but I like my X-Fi card. And since I paid $$$ for it, I want to use it.

I do use Linux too. I read that there will be X-Fi support sometime next year.

Serra
10-19-2006, 12:29 PM
I think you're all looking at this the wrong way.

The key here is that you may be changing a component, but you are not actually changing the PC it's in. Its like replacing the engine in Car A with an engine from Car B. When you go to your registry, you *still* register it as Car A even though it may have had parts from Car B in it. Same thing here.

And if it turns out that M$ has tried to get around that, I'm sure some slick lawyer somewhere will remind them of the fact that if Person A only has one desktop computer and they change a part in it, it's still only one computer and therefore does not count as an entirely seperate entity. M$ is waaayyyyy to big of a company not to get caught by that loophole and have to fix it (IF it exists, which is entirely speculation ATM).

lawrywild
10-20-2006, 07:00 AM
This is ridiculous

If I buy Vista, I would expect to be able to install it however many times I wanted (but only on one machine at a time)

Complete
10-20-2006, 07:35 AM
We will just have to see.

Personally. I am not worried. Tell me something.... There is a famous phrase...

"If there is something GREAT in the IT World, It was made to be hacked!"

Basically, If Vista is good, people will get it, whether legal, and :banana::banana::banana::banana: themselves, or, not legal. Doesn't matter to me, M$ is just killing themselves.

@UOpt - Dude. Everyone WANTS to go to Linux, well everyone but game makers, Driver coders, Its all political! Hell I could make the 200 dollars that I would spend on M$, for the amount of time I would use to find Linux help and drivers.

Just a thought! Cheers!

Vapor
10-20-2006, 08:20 AM
Harumph....yet another thread that's complaining and doesn't realize that for the small minority of us that do perform system-changing upgrades (HDD+/Motherboard) frequently, MS really doesn't care what we do.

Seriously.

They know we'll use the same license on more than one 'machine,' but never more than one at a time. They actually have a system to allow us to do this as well. It involves a phone.

Call them up, tell them what you replaced and say "yes" to the question: "is this the only system you have this installed on?" and they'll give you some number to type in that's 36 digits long....ALL DONE! You can do this as many times as you please, just like XP.

Nosfer@tu
10-20-2006, 09:08 AM
Harumph....yet another thread that's complaining and doesn't realize that for the small minority of us that do perform system-changing upgrades (HDD+/Motherboard) frequently, MS really doesn't care what we do.

Seriously.

They know we'll use the same license on more than one 'machine,' but never more than one at a time. They actually have a system to allow us to do this as well. It involves a phone.

Call them up, tell them what you replaced and say "yes" to the question: "is this the only system you have this installed on?" and they'll give you some number to type in that's 36 digits long....ALL DONE! You can do this as many times as you please, just like XP.

So 1 time every 2 mounths I have to spend 40 min on the phone. F*** THAT..

And it is not whining. It is interested concern.

J-Mag
10-20-2006, 11:10 AM
They will most likely have a corp edition, it's not like they send the IT department 600 CDs for a roll out.

JPeitzman
10-21-2006, 01:39 AM
I'm sorry but this is me:

1. I have tried Vista RC1, not really impressed. I hope the final release can wowo me otherwise IDK, I will stay XP untill I have too. My XP Pro x64 has been picky at times, but compaired to the permission ridden, picky, resource hog that is Vista....HA!

2. This is a joke, if I am spending $400 on a OS I want to do whatever I want with it whenever I want, and to whoever I want. I know about the phone thing, true it makes it not THAT big of a deal to some; but I agree, I don't want to spend an hour on the phone with some M$ "tech" in India to get a code to reinstall MY software that I bought.

Sorry M$, but unless something drastic happens between now and the Vista release...you done bad in my book M$....bad M$ BAD :nono: :slapass: :slapass:

Again, maybe just me and what I think.

raccoonone
10-21-2006, 03:18 PM
The more I read about Vista the less I want to buy it... Only reason I'm looking forward to it is for DirectX10

ochw
10-23-2006, 10:52 AM
same here only resaon i may get it is for dx10

KJatl
10-23-2006, 12:55 PM
The ironic part is that these 'copyright protection' features generally only affect users that paid for legitimate copies of the software. The 'file-sharing' crowd will no doubt have ways around such restrictions and will be able to keep using their generic cd keys...

C0oL
10-24-2006, 11:46 AM
MS have tried things for as long as i can remember to protect thier OS's, but EVERY time, they get broke... Usual rule of the thumb, where if it can be built, it can be broken... Just takes more time....

Nosfer@tu
11-05-2006, 03:21 PM
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1819105#post1819105

afireinside
11-05-2006, 03:32 PM
Honestly, how many of us are actually going to BUY vista?

Nosfer@tu
11-05-2006, 03:33 PM
Honestly, how many of us are actually going to BUY vista?

I think you would be amaised to se a poll from this site how many will buy it :)

EDIT :)

Would be cool if you could use the new thread :)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...05#post1819105