CORSAIR Dominator 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1111

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Has anyone taken a look at these?? Or a review??

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145044

[OCFX]

:stick:

look at price...and wil not beat xtreem pc8000 limited :D

[jmax_oc]

:stick:

look at price...and wil not beat xtreem pc8000 limited :D
Why comparing to Team ?
At the moment, the best ddr2 sticks are Geil PC8500.

[OCFX]

Why comparing to Team ?
At the moment, the best ddr2 sticks are Geil PC8500.Ok...Geil PC8500 so :)

this geil does 1200 @ 4-4-4 guaranteed with acceptable voltages ? ( im not saying team does :D )

[fhpchris]

:stick:

look at price...and wil not beat xtreem pc8000 limited :D

Wrong, Team 800 3-3-3 cannot run 540+ 2.4v 4-4-4, or at least mine sure as hell cant.

[yotomeczek]

Has anyone taken a look at these?? Or a review??

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145044


http://www.legitreviews.com/article/388/1/

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/09/22/corsair_xms2_dominator/

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=6634#

http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.aspx?articleid=871&cid=5

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2006/09/11/corsair_dominator_8888c4df/1.html

[OCFX]

Wrong, Team 800 3-3-3 cannot run 540+ 2.4v 4-4-4, or at least mine sure as hell cant.http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=117453

1180 @ 4-4-4-10 2.4v is fine at least...

and how about crucial 1000@ 5? I heard it uses fat body yet... its true?

[guess2098]

only AM2 so..... yeah.....end of story
andre and dumo bought it and they either return or sold it.....
ehhe you guys can ask them

[fhpchris]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=117453

1180 @ 4-4-4-10 2.4v is fine at least...

and how about crucial 1000@ 5? I heard it uses fat body yet... its true?

Just because his do that, does not mean yours will do that.

I can clock 435 3-3-3 2.4v rather easily and 500 4-4-4 2.2v passes

I would return them, but there is nothing wrong with them....

If you can afford the dominators, get them...

[AndreYang]

only for AM2............

for Intel 975x is DDR2 1020 4-4-4-12 2.4V

I bought 2 pairs. One is refund, another is sold.

[bachus_anonym]

Well, I would say it a bit differently - 888C4DF might not be the best choice for 975x as we all know, not that many people reached over DDR2-1130 on this chipset. Therefore, i975x mobos might hold it a bit. Unfortunately, it appears that both AndreYang and Dumo have tested it only on P5W64 (correct me If I'm worng here, please), so we might not have a good picture of what this RAM can do. ASUS P5B Deluxe will not have a problem with it and AM2 mobos will also utilize it better than 975x.

I'm working on getting 8888C4DF for evaluation and (if it works out) I should have an OCing Report coming up sometime soon - both on AM2 and P5B Deluxe.

[yotomeczek]

Well, I would say it a bit differently - 888C4DF might not be the best choice for 975x as we all know, not that many people reached over DDR2-1130 on this chipset. Therefore, i975x mobos might hold it a bit. Unfortunately, it appears that both AndreYang and Dumo have tested it only on P5W64 (correct me If I'm worng here, please), so we might not have a good picture of what this RAM can do. ASUS P5B Deluxe will not have a problem with it and AM2 mobos will also utilize it better than 975x.
....

It's true
P5W64 is ram unfrendly mobo :(
But on P5B Dlx You can push ram high just with 2:3 right ??
4:5 is a lot lower ... I'm cureles what about 1:1 with good strap ...
Intel's mobos are wired :D

[kiwi]

2:3 is ok, 4:5 is bad and 1:2 is very good on p5b dlx :D

[bachus_anonym]

But on P5B Dlx You can push ram high just with 2:3 right ??4:5 is a lot lowerYep! On P5B Deluxe:
4:5 is a pain in the a$$ to work with but with some good effort, DDR2-1100 can be done;
2:3 is good for well over DDR2-1200;
3:5 is good for DDR2-1200+ as well;
1:2 is great for DDR2-1200+ (low FSB, high DDR2).

EDIT: Oops, kiwi pretty much got it before me :)

[AndreYang]

Well, I would say it a bit differently - 888C4DF might not be the best choice for 975x as we all know, not that many people reached over DDR2-1130 on this chipset. Therefore, i975x mobos might hold it a bit. Unfortunately, it appears that both AndreYang and Dumo have tested it only on P5W64 (correct me If I'm worng here, please), so we might not have a good picture of what this RAM can do. ASUS P5B Deluxe will not have a problem with it and AM2 mobos will also utilize it better than 975x.

I'm working on getting 8888C4DF for evaluation and (if it works out) I should have an OCing Report coming up sometime soon - both on AM2 and P5B Deluxe.


P5B Deluxe also cannot pass DDR2 1111 CL4-4-4-12

I try 1:1 4:5 2:3...............All cannot be passed DDR2 1111.

[jmax_oc]

Ok...Geil PC8500 so :)

this geil does 1200 @ 4-4-4 guaranteed with acceptable voltages ? ( im not saying team does :D )
My 2x1Go Geil PC8500 bench 595MHz 4-4-4-12 2.45V.
So, I'm quite sure that they could be rock stable at 600MHz cas4 2.6V
Warranty cover until 2.5V

[cadaveca]

and how about crucial 1000@ 5? I heard it uses fat body yet... its true?

:nono:


D9GMH. Both Ballistix, Ballistix Tracer, D9GMH.

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I guess my inital question is I am back to the debate for my mobo..

I am also using the P5W64 with come Corsair C3 memory. I dont know If I want to tighten my timings, or increase the the speed.

Bach, you did a review on the memeory a while ago. "Fassst LANE!"

I am hitting 2.5v with the memory and I have 3.3.3.5 @ 990 mhz.

[Redbeard]

For those wondering this is not AM2 only, this should also work on 965 boards that support higher frequencies. In my experience the 965 chipset is much faster for memory than the 975X chipset, so if you're trying to set world records with memory on Intel I think the 965 is the place to be, for now.

Keep your eyes open over the next month or so.

As for the 8888C4D modules I think they are as fast or faster than anything anybody else is selling, we guarantee them at 1111 @ C4 but they'll go faster than that.

The ratio is the key though. I think using the 2:3 ratio is my personal favorite for benching right now.

[cadaveca]

Yeah, great..had them on order @ a certain retailer for going on two months. those sticks ever gonna ship to retailers, or what?

[Redbeard]

Yeah, great..had them on order @ a certain retailer for going on two months. those sticks ever gonna ship to retailers, or what?

Yes, they're shipping more each week.

[fade2green514]

oh my god. "complete" i absolutely love your avatar. lol
im probably buying ATI next time though, still a very sexy pair of words though...
pshh whatd you think i was gonna say?

[bachus_anonym]

I'm working on getting 8888C4DF for evaluation and (if it works out) I should have an OCing Report coming up sometime soon - both on AM2 and P5B Deluxe.I have just received an set of 8888C4DF yesterday and will start working on my OCing Report anytime now.

http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/965P/8888C4DF/8888C4DF_frontback.jpg

Just wanted to point out (in contrast to above reports), that this pair runs stock DDR2-1111 12-4-4-4-4.0 @ 2.40v with no problem at all. ORTHOS Large FFT (at least 2hrs) is also passing...

Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 371x9=3338Mhz, Corsair 8888C4DF @ DDR2-1114 12-4-4-4.0 --> Dual SPi32M (http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/965P/8888C4DF/371x9_DDR2-1114_12444_dual32M.png)
ASUS P5B Deluxe, vcore/vdimm/vmch-modded; CPU cooled w/ "402XTREME" by Chilly1
vcore: 1.57v (DMM)
vdimm: 2.40v (DMM)
vmch: 1.45v (DMM)

[AndreYang]

I have just received an set of 8888C4DF yesterday and will start working on my OCing Report anytime now.

http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/965P/8888C4DF/8888C4DF_frontback.jpg

Just wanted to point out (in contrast to above reports), that this pair runs stock DDR2-1111 12-4-4-4-4.0 @ 2.40v with no problem at all. ORTHOS Large FFT (at least 2hrs) is also passing...

Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 371x9=3338Mhz, Corsair 8888C4DF @ DDR2-1114 12-4-4-4.0 --> Dual SPi32M (http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/965P/8888C4DF/371x9_DDR2-1114_12444_dual32M.png)
ASUS P5B Deluxe, vcore/vdimm/vmch-modded; CPU cooled w/ "402XTREME" by Chilly1
vcore: 1.57v (DMM)
vdimm: 2.40v (DMM)
vmch: 1.45v (DMM)


My 2 pairs are not passing. Maybe my mobo is out of order..............:(

[syne_24]

Damn that's some nice looking ram..:D

[SMa]

Damn that's some nice looking ram..:D
my opinion: ugly like hell
;)

[Carsten]

#1 - Are you using bios version 0315 on your ASUS P5w64 board ? Where did you get this bios version ?

[FUGGER]

I am testing an even faster (default) part than the 8888 Dominator :D I need to find out if I am allowed to show newer part.

Im sure you guy want to see 4GB running as well.

[eva2000]

I have just received an set of 8888C4DF yesterday and will start working on my OCing Report anytime now.

Just wanted to point out (in contrast to above reports), that this pair runs stock DDR2-1111 12-4-4-4-4.0 @ 2.40v with no problem at all. ORTHOS Large FFT (at least 2hrs) is also passing...

Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 371x9=3338Mhz, Corsair 8888C4DF @ DDR2-1114 12-4-4-4.0 --> Dual SPi32M (http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/screens/965P/8888C4DF/371x9_DDR2-1114_12444_dual32M.png)
ASUS P5B Deluxe, vcore/vdimm/vmch-modded; CPU cooled w/ "402XTREME" by Chilly1
vcore: 1.57v (DMM)
vdimm: 2.40v (DMM)
vmch: 1.45v (DMM)
looking forward to your results since corsair support forums are riddled with problems with their 8500/8888 memory although most are on 975x chipset platform where tRD being too tight can cause problems.

Bachus you got a 975x to test with too ?

I haven't had any probs with Asus P5W DH taking my 3x sets of 2GB Gskill PC6400PHU2 HZ D9GMH past 540mhz 4-4-4-8 at 2.4v or 563mhz 4-4-4-8 at 2.54v or on Intel D975XBX Bad Axe past 529mhz 4-4-4-8 at 2.33v - all you need is memset + memtest + some free time :D

[Redbeard]

looking forward to your results since corsair support forums are riddled with problems with their 8500/8888 memory although most are on 975x chipset platform where tRD being too tight can cause problems.


What do you suggest setting the tRD to on the 975X chipset in order to get 1066+ MHz?

[fhpchris]

What do you suggest setting the tRD to on the 975X chipset in order to get 1066+ MHz?

I could do 1066 4-4-4 @ 2.4v with 6 or 7 on ws pro.

[eva2000]

What do you suggest setting the tRD to on the 975X chipset in order to get 1066+ MHz?
with my testing on P5W DH loosening tRD from default 6 to 7 allowed my Micron D9GMH to clock higher as well as allowed a higher max fsb http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=3034 and async tests http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?p=47177#post47177

For P5W DH at least the problem is more on 4:5 ratio as 2:3 clocks mem higher than on 4:5 due to loosened latencies as well as tRFC value.

in relation to P5W DH and Intel D975XBX Bad axe tests i've done.

Seems to me that for 975x chipset, both the max FSB limits and inability to handle high fsb in 4:5 and 2:3 dividers all comes down to tRD being too tight at 6. How far you can take your FSB and clocks in async divider mode, depend on:

1. MCH/NB quality and latencies
2. MCH/NB cooling - better MCH/NB cooling = higher FSB and higher memory clocks
3. MCH Voltage
4. Memory modules used - if the memory can handle tRD = 6 well then it will clock higher, allowing high FSB
5. vDIMM - memory voltage helps memory handle tighter advance timings, thus higher max FSB

Further proof, i upped vdimm to 2.4v with vMCH still at 1.65v and booted into windows at 9x390fsb 4:5 487mhz 4-4-4-8. Using memset loosened timings to match that of default 2:3 divider tRFC = 42 and Write to Precharge Cmd = 13 but loosened tRD from 6 to 7. Managed to clock memory right up to 540mhz 4-4-4-8 at 2.4v without problems for single 32M and 538mhz 4-4-4-8 for dual 32M.

One note on tRD setting on 975x, it will differ depending on the memory modules used. I've seen alot of lower/tight latency DDR2 ram handle tRD of 5 without problems (these are best for super pi records) but some folks hit a premature max fsb limit on 975x, loosening to tRD 6 would allow them to go higher i suppose. Then i've seen some of the modules binned for high clocks not like anything tighter than tRD 6 and clock higher with tRD 7 on 975x (P5W DH).

Some memory modules also don't like tight tRFC values which most 975x default to i.e. P5W DH with 4-4-4-x timings 1:1 trfc 28, 4:5 trfc 35 and 2:3 trfc 42. For P5W DH 1:1 and 4:5 might be harder on some modules until you loosen both tRD and/or tRFC.

So while it does partly it depend on the motherboard as to how high you can clock your memory modules, it also depends on the quality of the memory modules to handle what the motherboard sets for it's default timings. This is why i'm careful when looking at DDR2 modules I buy or test as i've seen some modules not liking anything tighter than tRD 7 with tRFC >42 which would sux for super pi times compared to modules than handle tRD 5 with tRFC tight at 20-25 heh

[thorgal]

OK, here's my preliminary take at the Dominator :

Screenshot (http://users.skynet.be/thorgal73/Desktop%20pics/MaxOC-Orthos.JPG)

This is the max the memory will pass orthos at (2.4V). I can do most tests up to 1170DDR, but not Orthos. Cas 5 does not make much of a difference. Still have to play around with secondary timings as well.

PS : Also notice the difference in reporting of the FSB between coretemp and cpuz, and the difference in speed reporting from coretemp, orthos and cpuz. CPUz reports the correct bus, multiplier and speed settings, but probably coretemp reports the correct chipset setting. This chipset OC "pitfall" prevents me to run this setup at 444x6, whereas 458x10 was my max OC for this processor (and has run quite reliable in the past). I was trying to find maximum bandwith for the ram, and above 420Mhz on multi 8 it was no go. Multi 6 made things only worse. I will try and test again with a XE processor to see if things further add up.

[cloud_171]

This is probably completely off topic since I have no real interest in the ram but are those fans that come with the dominator actually practical? or am I just better off rigging something myself?

[L'enFer]

and will be there 2x512 mb kit?