Lian Li disappointments...

[destaccado]

Anyone else less then thrilled with Lian Li lately? Whatever happened to their timeless designs ala 6070. I can appreciate the improvements/design of the new interiors on their cases but the exteriors just seem to be going downhill.....Seriously considering my first non-Lian Li case in nearly 4 years- the Silverstone TJ07....

[Sneaky]

i love my PC-S80B the new LL cases are a MAJOR change from the look they had in the past... but they still offer the cases with the classic look

but IMO, the PC-S80B is the nicest Lian Li that I've ever owned


http://www.fragtek.com/sneaky/omerta/c1_01.jpg
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http://www.fragtek.com/sneaky/omerta/c1_03.jpg
http://www.fragtek.com/sneaky/omerta/c1_04.jpg
http://www.fragtek.com/sneaky/omerta/c1_05.jpg
http://www.fragtek.com/sneaky/omerta/omerta_01.jpg

[Timmay]

What HSF is that on your card mate?

[Sneaky]

the new thermalright HR-03 :)

theres a thread about it in the air cooling section

[Shift]

What happened to your montain mods? I liked that alot.

[afireinside]

That new lian li is hideous. The v1000/v1200/v2000s are the only recent ones I like.

[[XC] leviathan18]

g70 is beatiful case

[Sneaky]

What happened to your montain mods? I liked that alot.

the cube is sitting in my basement at the moment - not sure if I want to sell it or just keep it for another project or something later down the road, as it is the original "new" style case with the full HDD rack instead of the 120mm fan racks, etc. - plus its custom powdercoated in black crackle, which I just love


for now I'm enjoying my new LL PC-S80B though :up:

[Simon]

for now I'm enjoying my new LL PC-S80B though



How much space is it for a PSU?
What I have in mind is Enermax Galaxy, which is 220 mm (d).

What brand of SATA cables du you have?
They look like they have really good connectors.

[Lancer33]

I have a PC-S80 sitting collecting dust. Sucks for air cooling. The Galaxy should fit because there is nothing in line with it until you hit the Optical drives. Standard width.

[ooeric]

my LL a10 is beautiful
black with silver lines, and the interiors design is farrrrr better then the V series or s80
with 7x 5" and 5x 3"
room for 2 psu and enough places to put alot of fans.
not to mention it came with 4 already inside =]
at 260$ .,.. it better be my last case purchase ever. LOL

[irenic]

i just bought Lian Li PC A10 and i can say this case is so nice. It's not comparable to V1000 that i owned last year bcoz that v1000 has poor airflow for top compartment..

The PC A10 has large interior and at first sight it reminds me of tj07 (which is my dream case)

Right now i'm planning to mod the side panel for this PCA10 to be like tj07 and it might cost me around $50 for that mod.. hmm u might be saying it's better to buy tj07 straight away but that case is not available at my place and i dont want to spend 2-3 weeks just to wait for that case to fly from oversea :D

[Praxis1452]

I'm either getting a A10B or a V2000 plus II anybody know which would be better?

[Makubex_GB]

Lian Li PC-7077 = Best case ever! :D

[lowfat]

I'm either getting a A10B or a V2000 plus II anybody know which would be better?

A-10 is a sexy case and being able to run dual power supplies with it is even better, but the thing I dislike is the non-inverted mobo like the V series. Standard ATX + PSU on the bottom is horrible for cable routing IMO. That is the only thing preventing me from buying the A-10. I'd take the V2000 just for that reason alone. If i wanted a case with that layout i'd just buy a P180 :stick:

[rick_fx]

That new lian li is hideous. The v1000/v1200/v2000s are the only recent ones I like.

You got that right, the v2000 rocks :)

[Praxis1452]

A-10 is a sexy case and being able to run dual power supplies with it is even better, but the thing I dislike is the non-inverted mobo like the V series. Standard ATX + PSU on the bottom is horrible for cable routing IMO. That is the only thing preventing me from buying the A-10. I'd take the V2000 just for that reason alone. If i wanted a case with that layout i'd just buy a P180 :stick:
ok well I thought you could route the cables behind the tray?

Anyway I really need to be able to get good airflow in the CPU compartment. I need to remove around 500W of heat... effectively

[BlaqMale]

THIS (http://www.lian-li.com/Product/Chassis/Middle_Tower/Classical_Series/M_C_S_PC-A10.htm) a new enough design for you, i believe it's their latest. all i know is that i love it and this might be my first lian-li case

[Messiah Khan]

A-10 is a sexy case and being able to run dual power supplies with it is even better, but the thing I dislike is the non-inverted mobo like the V series. Standard ATX + PSU on the bottom is horrible for cable routing IMO. That is the only thing preventing me from buying the A-10. I'd take the V2000 just for that reason alone. If i wanted a case with that layout i'd just buy a P180 :stick:


Agreed. I love having the psu at the bottom of the case. But the only effective design for this is having the inverted mobo layout of the v-series/pc-101/pc-201. I have a p180 and its not a bad case as such, but the layout is somewhat annoying. My v2000 is much better, both in terms of design and build quality. The A10 certainly does look a great case, as does the rest of LianLi's new range, but I can't help feeling that there are some problems with the internal layout.

[aznblueeboi]

G70 is awesome...I plan to get one soon...

Check this huge one out

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/xoxide/lian-li-pc-343-2.jpg

[Anavel0]

I love my PC-V1000 Plus II with a passion. I love all the Lian-Li cases. Not a big fan of the new cube case. Too big for my taste, but I'm sure there are people out there that could put it too very good use.

Edit: Woops wrong model number. Thank you Skane for the correction.

[skane]

G70 isnt the cube, the cube is a special design, i believe its the pc-343 or just modular cube
this is the G70:
http://www.lian-li.com/images/products/b_pc-g70.gif

[irenic]

Agreed. I love having the psu at the bottom of the case. But the only effective design for this is having the inverted mobo layout of the v-series/pc-101/pc-201. I have a p180 and its not a bad case as such, but the layout is somewhat annoying. My v2000 is much better, both in terms of design and build quality. The A10 certainly does look a great case, as does the rest of LianLi's new range, but I can't help feeling that there are some problems with the internal layout.


i owned both v1000b and pc A10 and i can say i prefer PC A10 interior..

and i didnt notice any difficulties or problems with the internal layouts for both cases :D

[aznblueeboi]

G70 isnt the cube, the cube is a special design, i believe its the pc-343 or just modular cube
this is the G70:
http://www.lian-li.com/images/products/b_pc-g70.gif

read what I wrote...I never said the G70 is the cube ;)

[Messiah Khan]

i owned both v1000b and pc A10 and i can say i prefer PC A10 interior..

and i didnt notice any difficulties or problems with the internal layouts for both cases :D

Really? What PSU do you have? And you had no problems with the p4 power lead reaching? This is what caused me most grief in the p180. So what is it you prefer about the a10?

G70 is awesome...I plan to get one soon...

Check this huge one out

*snip*

Looks a decent case the modular cube. The only downside is that it doesn't support eatx, which a case of that size really should.

[irenic]

Really? What PSU do you have? And you had no problems with the p4 power lead reaching? This is what caused me most grief in the p180. So what is it you prefer about the a10?



i am using thermaltake toughpower 700w.. well so far i have tested 3 boards in this pc A10 (biostar 965p deluxe, gigabyte ds3, and asus p5w dh) and i have no problem connecting all the molex or the p4 power lead ..

i prefer A10 over p180 is because the A10 has larger interior space. P180 is made of thick SECC (or issit thick alu?) and maybe thats why people have difficulties with the P180, the interior become smaller and more compact..

[Shift]

Can you please post some pics of your set up with the LL PC-A10?

I really liek te case alot, but would like to see some pics of an actual system installed.

[irenic]

Can you please post some pics of your set up with the LL PC-A10?

I really liek te case alot, but would like to see some pics of an actual system installed.

here are the only pics i have in my pc. sorry the case is not with me now so i cant show u guys any new pic..

and sorry for poor image quality, took the photos using camera phone only. :D

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/6200/a101cg6.jpg

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4700/a102kl1.jpg

[Shift]

I really like the case alot, but is there any room for wire management?

Anyways really sweet system. I really want it ALOT.

[irenic]

I really like the case alot, but is there any room for wire management?

Anyways really sweet system. I really want it ALOT.


i believe most people can easily do good wire management with this case.. the interior is almost similar with the interior of tenjin 07 and i've seen a lot of people with tj07 has good wire mngmnt inside their case... but not mine. I'm so bad in doing that :(

hehe anyway thx!

[Praxis1452]

So PC-A10>V2000?

[lowfat]

Hmm, i would definately like to see some good wiring jobs with the A10. So if anyone has them, feel free to post :)

[irenic]

@Praxis

for me, yes PC A10 > V2000

@ lowfat

i wish to see some as well.. but it's quite hard to find people using this case..

[BlaqMale]

the PC A10 that's the one i fell in love with

[Silver Bullet]

I bought a PC-S80B ($ 450CND)...

Good: build quality, innovation, etc

Bad: not quiet at all, the HD mounts don't have any rubber or sound deadening at all so you hear them every time they seek. Fans were loud, even after replacing them with Nexus 120mm’s, and I putting in a fan controller also, but after that not enough as moving around so that didn’t work. For $450+ I was very disappointed. If you want a quiet case keep looking.

[Maviryk]

I love the way the v1000s are designed, except for the fact that their motherboard trays aren't removeable. Very annoying when upgrading coolers.

[thephenom]

I guess they're too busy working with System Integrators, taking in customs orders from those guys rather than focusing on the consumer market.

[Shift]

I bought a PC-S80B ($ 450CND)...

Good: build quality, innovation, etc

Bad: not quiet at all, the HD mounts don't have any rubber or sound deadening at all so you hear them every time they seek. Fans were loud, even after replacing them with Nexus 120mm’s, and I putting in a fan controller also, but after that not enough as moving around so that didn’t work. For $450+ I was very disappointed. If you want a quiet case keep looking.


Sneaky has this case for silence and he is pleased. Maybe you got a bad case?

[The_EclipseZ]

hi, i'd like to buy a lian li pc-g70 black (not the cube one), but i don't know if thermalright ultra-120 fits into it...i don't want to mod a lian li:eek:
i have a p5b deluxe.
thanks for the help.

[Slayer2k3]

I just bought an A10b. :D:D

Have been debating on this one, or the s80b for a while, and the psu layout and hd racks sold me on the A10.

Gimmie a few days n I'll throw some management pics up. :woot:

[lemonlime]

I really love the look of the PC-A10B. I'm seriously thinking of picking one up. Anyone know if there will be a lian-li made window panel for this case? I have seen no mention of it anywhere else on the web.

Also, Any A10 owners care to comment on how restrictive that front door is for the front fan?

[UnreaL]

I think the PC-61 is going to take some beating for me. Wiring is a dream, and the 120mm fan model is a good improvement on my 120mm one (although as you can see I use the exhaust as a fillport and 120mm fans all around.

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/710/cimg2774smallvc1.jpg

[thunderstruck!]

After using a PC-61, V1000, I'm going to get a full tower. Mid towers are just to cramped, small and offer little room for adding thing like a huge PSU or watercooling.

[damnnit]

I have a PC7B, its nice and great size but very cramped indeed. Next one shall be V2000. Great for phase change.

[irenic]

i sold my pc A10b already :D

[granulf]

i sold my pc A10b already :D

Lol, why? :confused:

[irenic]

bcoz i already have tj07, and i spent the money i got from the sales for a wc kit :D

[JoeBar]

After using a PC-61, V1000, I'm going to get a full tower. Mid towers are just to cramped, small and offer little room for adding thing like a huge PSU or watercooling.
Mid towers...? :nono:

:D

[kevsta112003]

I have PCA10, and some good cable management if I dont say so myself. However, I changed the fans around a bit. I moved the top fan to the front and put it in the 120mm bays. Ill take a pic and post.

My one conern with the A10 Case is that when I get water cooling, the case comes with 2 holes for rad on top, but then finding a spot so the res is higher then the rad becomes a problem.

[kevsta112003]

Here it is, PC A10 cable management http://www.overclock.net/gallery/data/500/PCa10.JPG

[eXa]

if they only made the A10 full tower... Then it would be an option. for now the internals of the v2000\201 is much better!

[Praxis1452]

they should have made the A10 inverted ATX.

[lowfat]

they should have made the A10 inverted ATX.


exactly. In my theory if the PSU is at the bottom of the case, the mobo should be inverted otherwise way to hard to wire.

[Lancer33]

I have a PC-S80 sitting in the corner, a V-1000 Plus currently set up and running, and a PC-A10 sitting on the bench half built. My vote goes to the A10, it is the best Lian Li I have had as far as layout and ease of maintenance.

[pie_uk]

those first pictures of the lian li look easy enough to install a dual 120mm rad at the front no?

[grsz06]

What do you guys think of this baby? I was considering Lian Li PC-A10B, but this thing looks awesome

http://img.hexus.net/v2/cases/silverstone/tj09/1.jpg

And the full review.

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=7205

[pie_uk]

beast of a case, i was deciding between that and the silverstone tj07

i got the silverstone

[Anavel0]

I don't know. Looks gimmicky to me. Quality looks good though. Just like the Lian-Lis they are trying to beat.

[JazzG]

What is this case like compared to the Lian Li PC-S80? Both seem to be similar from the outside but very different from the inside. I think the fan from the top blowing over the motherboard would give the A10 better cooling for the CPU and graphics card.

The S80 is suppose to be designed in a way so that you don't hear much noise with sound proofing features but does anyone know if the A10 is similar in that. Also the build quality of the S80 is suppose to be top notch but from what I can gather the A10 seems to be pretty good. Though from what I hear the S80 isn't that great at blocking noise out so will have to 7v some fans anyway!

And finally I'm looking to have a Nvidia 8800GTX card, Asus striker extreme mobo with a ultra-120 on a qx6700 in this case. I know all those components are suppose to be a bit large so do you think it would be a problem fitting it in this case?

Thanks in advance :)

[ibiris]

What do you guys think of this baby? I was considering Lian Li PC-A10B, but this thing looks awesome

http://img.hexus.net/v2/cases/silverstone/tj09/1.jpg

And the full review.

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=7205


Very nice - It's between that and the A10 for me now. I want a case to replace the Coolermaster one I have now, which is only 435mm high - a bit cramped for my liking... The A10 and TJ09 are a lot bigger, and the TJ09 is bigger still than the A10 in Depth. Although I'm using only air cooling at the moment, I may move to liquid cooling later on, so both cases will probably restrict me some what. Can't decide :(

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/5296/dsc00345mz0.th.jpg (http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00345mz0.jpg)

Thats the beast :-|

Another reason why I want rid of it... The door at the front annoys me so much that I now have a shoe lace hooked round it when I need access to the drives at the front. I could just take it off i suppose, but it would still do my 'ead in:

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/7310/dsc00348zt9.th.jpg (http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00348zt9.jpg)

[ibiris]

I'm actually considering this now too:

http://www.lian-li.com/Product/Chassis/Server_Full_Tower/V_Series/S_V_S_PC-V2000.htm

It seems like i bump into a new possibility every day :-|

[ibiris]

Have just stumbled upon this review from Case Closed which was linked on hexus.net:

http://www.caseclosed.co.uk/review_lianli_pca10.htm

Apparently the A10 is the first case to achieve a 10/10... Maybe that will sway some peoples opinions. Although I would still like the option of Water cooling components being installed inside the case.

[Messiah Khan]

I'm actually considering this now too:

http://www.lian-li.com/Product/Chassis/Server_Full_Tower/V_Series/S_V_S_PC-V2000.htm

It seems like i bump into a new possibility every day :-|


The v2000 is a stunning case. Its so big that there are plenty of options of mod etc to do. Its also a very popluar case, so if you do a search you can get lots of inspiration from other people.

[Simon]

The v2000 is a stunning case. Its so big that there are plenty of options of mod etc to do. Its also a very popluar case, so if you do a search you can get lots of inspiration from other people.

But it has not enough space for a Galaxy. And you have to install a P5WDG2 WS Pro upside down.
Besides from that, it´s a very good case.

[Timmay]

I was looking at a V2000 but after seeing the price tag down here in NZ I'm getting a stacker.

[Messiah Khan]

But it has not enough space for a Galaxy. And you have to install a P5WDG2 WS Pro upside down.
Besides from that, it´s a very good case.

Can you not fit a Galaxy due to the length? If thats the case, then you could simply remove one of the harddrive cages to give it plenty more space. And im assuimg your worried about the P5WDG2 WS Pro being upside down due to the heatpipe? From what ive heard, it does raise temps a bit, but not to dangerous levels. You could always replace the NB cooler with a third party non-heatpipe cooler.

[thespeakerbox]

The only gripes i have with lian li is the inverted atx. If only they made the cases taller, so they could push down that seperating plate on the v1000 series. It would allow for a better fit of modern tower coolers.