Linux can suck my.............

[IFMU]

I will let you decide on what word you want to add in there.
I have messed with this §§§§ED up so called Operating System for too many hours out of my life for it to give me nothing but downright §§§§ing hassles. Damned, Ive spent the last 3 §§§§ing hours trying to get this crap to install just once right. Never happened.
Every time, it either will error, then continue without a hicup, or it will just get to "claim" its done. Then wont boot. Gets to where it should read the hdd and go in SOMEHOW, but nooooo, it just sits there like a §§§§ing 16 year old virgin at a nude beach..... rock hard and goin no where fast.................................


Every single time I even think of trying it does nothing but waste my §§§§ING time......... GOD I HATE THIS CRAP SOFTWARE.

I am not stupid, granted, I am not as smart as some of you people have to be to run this blasted software, but I am far from stupid and that irritates me even more.. Nothing I do, a damned nothing I do can make this crap run right.............. :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Tweaked!]

Bro, you need to quit beating around the bush and speak whats truly on your mind;):p

Have you tried looking through that file I forwarded to you about Linux? I haven't yet, so I don't know if it's of any help or not. other than that, long deep breathes and long walks away from the computer is the only advice I can offer up at the moment:cool:

[IFMU]

LoL
No, I havent really had the chance to yet.
This is beyond right now, this is over many many many many many many many attempts at giving that OS a try. Every single time it gives me more hassles then its worth it seems. Just seriouslly gets on my nerves. This crap cant be this hard FFS!

[wdd1040]

What distro, what errors?

[IFMU]

I dont honestly remember. I think it just had to do with tryin to read the CD. Each time (this time) it would give an error, I would tell it to keep going, and it would pick up and go not another prob.
Now if you want all the times Ive tried, sorry.. LoL
And its RedHat 7.3 (Vahalla) if I remember correctly.

[sjohnson]

Grab SuSe or Mandrake. Much less trouble IMHO.

But, my first systems were UNIX, so I'm completely blind to the problems someone new to that philosophy faces!

I cursed Windows for years. Even developed a dual-ported Windows/UNIX application that involved 8086 assembly and still didn't get the hang of windows until I'd used it for about 10 years lol...

[CCW]

i got SuSE on first time on an old P2 system to pal yaround with, it even pciked up al lthe drivers, they do it: http://www.linuxiso.org/

[wdd1040]

Originally posted by IFMU
I dont honestly remember. I think it just had to do with tryin to read the CD. Each time (this time) it would give an error, I would tell it to keep going, and it would pick up and go not another prob.
Now if you want all the times Ive tried, sorry.. LoL
And its RedHat 7.3 (Vahalla) if I remember correctly.

I've had that problem, several of my friends have had that problem and all that I can say is you can try one of four things, a new cdrom drive, better quality media when you burn the ISO's, a different distro, or a different version of RH. 9.0 has been installing flawlessly on all my stuff lately.

[IFMU]

Well part of the problem at the moment, is that I am out of CDR's. I burned these quite some time ago and have just (again) gotten around to attempting another install.
I think I have one CDRW available ATM, so Im pretty limited.

[wdd1040]

I've never tried it, but what about a network install from iso's that have been extracted and shared out?

[IFMU]

Heh, well small problem with that. I have 1 machine. No more.
I do have several HDD's, but only 1 machine.

[IFMU]

Ah yea, and one more thing, Bu Hu Wha? LoL

I know what you mean, but no clue in the world how it would be done. Even if it was an option.

[wdd1040]

http://www.freeos.com/printer.php?entryID=2591
I got too curious and followed these instructions and it worked for me. Now I know I guess. :) hmm... then I guess you might need to ask around for some CDr's... or I've tried this one before, asked someone if I could borrow a could CDrw's on the condition I bring them back formatted.

[shray]

lil question.. did ya download using an accelerator.. if so.. throw em away.. number two.. dont use folding or anything or oc or shake burner while burning...

[wdd1040]

Originally posted by shray
lil question.. did ya download using an accelerator.. if so.. throw em away..
You almost have to with ISO's, but as long as you MD5 sum them and do a media check and they both come out fine, the media is 99% of the time good. The big thing is You MUST USE QUALITY MEDIA, so no memorex or maxell Wal-Mart CDR's.... :-)
Wes

[IFMU]

Originally posted by shray
lil question.. did ya download using an accelerator.. if so.. throw em away.. number two.. dont use folding or anything or oc or shake burner while burning...
Actually, no, I dont use that crap. Numberous reasons, but I dont.

Presently, am running Mandrake 9.1. Went ahead and downloaded it yesterday, burned it to a CDRW and installed just a lil while ago.
Looks realllllly weird.... And not to sure about this Konquerer Browser either... really makes these pages look odd.

Opera for Linux? lol

Next to figure out how to install stuff on Linux. :rolleyes:

[mccompunerd]

Originally posted by wdd1040
The big thing is You MUST USE QUALITY MEDIA, so no memorex or maxell Wal-Mart CDR's.... :-)
Wes

not to contradict you, but all i've ever used for my multiple installs of various distros are Memorex CD-r's and if i recall correctly ohce i even had to use a cdrw.. memorex is not all that bad, never tried maxell, but i know that there are some that aren't even worth the spindle they come on... anywho, IFMU glad to see you didn't completely give up.. about the browser, you should grab Mozilla, it's what i use even on my windows box, it's available at http://www.mozilla.org
as for installing stuff, you can try to ask here, or check these sites....
http://www.justlinux.org
http://en.tldp.org/
http://www.linux.org/

and of course the software itself should have a decent README(usually in all caps like that, no extension) on how to install included.. cheers, and good luck

[Johnny Knoxvill]

Originally posted by IFMU
Next to figure out how to install stuff on Linux. :rolleyes:

"install stuff on linux" you mean looking everywhere around the internet for a solution only to find that you don't have the dependencies, then needing to recompile the kernel for it to work :stick:

If you consider how even most of the linux gurus dual boot with windows you will see how crap linux really is, for servers it's another matter though.

[Smizack]

Damn dude, I've never seen anyone have as many probs with linux as you. mabey you need a mac lolz :D

Installing stuff.. Just catch me on aim. But remember rpm's are your friend man. If you can d/l rpm's over tarballs.

But here's both short n sweet for ya.

RPM
cd to the dir that it's located. Then "rpm -ivh filename"

tar.gz
Cd to the dir. then
"gunzip filename"
Then you still have your tar file so:
"tar xvf filename"



Knoxvill, I haven't touched a microsoft os in about a month, and other than not been able to play a few games my linux box will do anything your windoze one will, and it will do it more stable. I downloaded and installed about a gig of updates, installed numerous programs, and haven't rebooted one time.

[sjohnson]

Originally posted by Smizack
...
haven't rebooted one time. Heh - we used to have uptime contests. Best I ever did was 386 days, including some live kernel patching and tweaking in addition to software installs (this was an HP/UX box).

I've seen some 800+ day uptimes, but that takes some serious effort and a good UPS...

[Smizack]

Exactly my point. Try that with Windoze.;)

[wdd1040]

I had uptime of about 2 months on a windows xp pro box one time.....

[titan386]

Originally posted by Johnny Knoxvill
"install stuff on linux" you mean looking everywhere around the internet for a solution only to find that you don't have the dependencies, then needing to recompile the kernel for it to work :stick:



While dependecies are often an issue with rpm based systems, recompiling the kernel is not something you'll have to do often to install packages. lm_sensors comes to mind (only sometimes requires a recompile), but other than that, your average linux program does not require a kernel recompile to install.

Tools such as www.rpmfind.net can make dependency problems easier to deal with.

Apt-get and portage, available in Debian and Gentoo, almost completely fix the dependency issues, by handling them automatically. I've only had to manually install dependencies once on Gentoo, and never on Debian.



If you consider how even most of the linux gurus dual boot with windows you will see how crap linux really is, for servers it's another matter though.


This is a ridiculous argument. Windows and Linux are different tools, used for different things. Would you use a scissor to cut your lawn? If not, does that mean the scissor is crap?

[Attitudx]

i will toss in my two cents worth i Tried to install linux dual boot with windows just cuz i wanted to learn. Now first off i was mad couldnt get it installed and when it did i got nothing but errors. NOW, once i get it stable and try to make it dual boot with xp umm could have kicked myself in the head. Format and reinstall xp and i have these cool linux coasters. I mean i bet it is fine but all this

gunsnipe.rar.filename this
and +-"avd =Lop dumb user
I am confused enough not to have things spoken to me in garble LOL

[sjohnson]

Again, Windows and Linux/GNU/BSD/UNIX are different in their fundamental philosophies. Neither is better or worse (as a concept) than the other.

I'll repeat, it took me *years* to overcome my backwards approach to Windows because I learned UNIX as my first real environment. It might take a while for a Windows user to get the hang of Linux but keep at it, it's a kewl feeling to be able to handle different "languages" and be a cunning linguist ;)

[Smizack]

Originally posted by sjohnson
Again, Windows and Linux/GNU/BSD/UNIX are different in their fundamental philosophies. Neither is better or worse (as a concept) than the other.


Heh. "as a concept" Yep. You just avoided a huge discussion.;)

[sjohnson]

rofl, I saw that train wreck from a looong way off :D

[Smizack]

Originally posted by sjohnson
rofl, I saw that train wreck from a looong way off :D

I read it too fast the first time through.
Was just about to pm ya. heh;)