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bullet2urbrain
10-10-2006, 11:04 AM
Hey everyone,

Someone has graciously donated a working refrigerator to me, it is an older Over Under refrig with the following components, it works just fine as a fridge but i'd rather start small and build a phase unit with it. I am going to be taking Thermodynamics next quarter @ school and what better way than to get my hands on some basics than with a small Phase unit.

anyway here is what is contained in the belly of the beast.

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/2109/dscn0108xr9.th.jpg (http://img130.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn0108xr9.jpg)

i have other pics but Imageshack is being finnicky.

it is currently gased with R134a as is standard, i presume some of my Professors for Thermo will be able to get more "fun" gases and provide me with some tools. just wondering if i should take all this out and start a phase or hope for something better....

Thanks guys


PS: LardArse or someone can you please fix the pictures in your Refrigeration basics guide. I tried to read but the links are broken

_HL4E_HalfLife_
10-10-2006, 11:29 AM
Haha i got the exact same compressor,condensor and fan as whats in ur pic lol what a quinceadince.

The compressors in these fridges arn't that powerful but it might be good enough for a GPU otherwise i would get something a bit larger.

DetroitAC
10-10-2006, 11:35 AM
i presume some of my Professors for Thermo will be able to get more "fun" gases and provide me with some tools. just wondering if i should take all this out and start a phase or hope for something better....



Good luck! In my thermo we spent maybe 2 days on the refrigeration cycle (reversed Rankine). Majority of the course will be the laws of thermo, and some VERY simple analysis of Rankine, Brayton, Stirling, etc. I think you give professors too much credit, if I'm wrong...you're in a good school!

bullet2urbrain
10-10-2006, 01:02 PM
Good luck! In my thermo we spent maybe 2 days on the refrigeration cycle (reversed Rankine). Majority of the course will be the laws of thermo, and some VERY simple analysis of Rankine, Brayton, Stirling, etc. I think you give professors too much credit, if I'm wrong...you're in a good school!

I'm in a school where engineers pretty much are top dog. and the professors are generally very open minded provided you show them that you have done your part of the research.

if i just walked in and was like " plop heres some parts can you build me a Phase unit" they'd be like "lol get lost EE Major" but if i show them im ready to do my part to get it done i think they would be willing to help.

Half Life: what type of load temps will this hold with say something like 100Watt Heat load??? im more interested in building this becuase of the experience not to -100*C my CPU... im sure i'll find a use for cooling something to -35* or so :D

friends and beer seem to be 2 things that come to mind... :D


EDIT FOR MORE INFO: so if i rip everything out of that fridge, there are 2 big questions that come to mind... what more do i need? I obviously need a block of some kind and a cap tube made? and then i will need some more R134a... is this close or am i much more of a n00b than i think. and the second being, can it handle more than R134a?

n00b 0f l337
10-10-2006, 01:10 PM
-35C load is a far shot away I'd say. Thats almost normal temperatures for other single stages with much more powerful compressors and condensers.
You may be aiming towards 0C at evap load.

bullet2urbrain
10-10-2006, 02:57 PM
0*C = fine by me, im really interested in the process of building it... plus i've learned some neat things possible witha MicroController that i may want to try...

similar to a cruise control of sorts... im sure its been done before but i wanna try it.

any answer's to the questions above NoL?

[486]
10-10-2006, 05:24 PM
I use that same one as a vac. pump! and i'm sure it would work with r 22 [or r-290] but wont last long, i was using it as a makeshift recovery device and the head pressure got to 400 real quick [forgot to take valve core out of discharge] mine on the internet said it was like 1/10 hp or something