ASUS Rolls Out 22" Widescreen LCD with 2ms Fast Response and HDCP Support

[sladesurfer]

:D http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?18060


ASUSTeK Computer Inc. (ASUS) today introduced the MW221U 22" widescreen LCD monitor, which incorporated a wide viewing angle, Trace Free Technology to accelerate grey-to-grey response time to 2ms, and DVI input with High-Bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP) support. A 20-inch widescreen solution, MW201U, is now available as well for those who require a smaller display. "The MW widescreen LCD monitor series is the logical step after the release of products with built-in webcam and powerful subwoofers earlier this year," said Vincent Chiou, Director of Display Business Unit. "As the display market migrates towards widescreens, ASUS will introduce two more widescreen series along with the MW series in the fourth quarter, to provide a complete monitor family for different user needs."

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[nn_step]

Price?

[sladesurfer]

Price?
$689:eek: http://www.shopbot.com.au/p-24743.html

[Shift]

It's everything I wanted in a monitor; HDCP support, fast response time, and widescreen:banana:

$689?!?!?!

Damn:(

[Pinnacle]

looks similar to my 5ms 2000:1 LG

but alot more $$$

[yaddam205]

Wow, for that price ill stick with what I had orignally planned....

Acer AL2216Wbd 22in 5ms. 700:1 only $283

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/24-009-094-05.JPG

PS: Anyone have this... feedback would be appreciated on it. (I play 1.6 3 hrs a night any ghosting?)

[Pinnacle]

Wow, for that price ill stick with what I had orignally planned....

Acer AL2216Wbd 22in 5ms. 700:1 only $283

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/24-009-094-05.JPG

PS: Anyone have this... feedback would be appreciated on it. (I play 1.6 3 hrs a night any ghosting?)


Haha I just sold mine

and got an LG 2000:1 5ms same size for $380 Canadian

the one you have is a good monitor and CANT be beat for the price I find it did have minor ghosting

[Haltech]

probably mid $400's in USA

[yaddam205]

Haha I just sold mine

and got an LG 2000:1 5ms same size for $380 Canadian

the one you have is a good monitor and CANT be beat for the price I find it did have minor ghosting


Hmmm.... wanna link me to that 22" I can only find it in 20 and 19

[Nephilim]

The difference being both the LG and the Acer are the same Chi Mei panel (M220Z1-L01) and the Samsung uses a TN-Film panel with 8-bit colour processing.

Not quite sure how Samsung do it, but their TN-III panels are rated for full 16.7m colours as opposed to the 16.2m using dithering on the Chi Mei's.

Assuming Samsung's specs don't lie :p

[gr8golf]

looks similar to my 5ms 2000:1 LG

but alot more $$$

Which LG model is that?

[gr8golf]

Wow, for that price ill stick with what I had orignally planned....
PS: Anyone have this... feedback would be appreciated on it. (I play 1.6 3 hrs a night any ghosting?)

Counter Strike 1.6?

[Pinnacle]

Hmmm.... wanna link me to that 22" I can only find it in 20 and 19

Sorry its a 20.1, dunno what I was thinking lol

[Pinnacle]

Which LG model is that?
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&MSCSProfile=3C79F0C7EA3162B2F4DE0859C8631BEAD3EE8B 5200DDDF6C91290ED60C526A86AC89B3683DFF98625BA5E055 BD9AF002D5F74F3A8316CC3C80E829F3F26EF9703932486B54 9A136F2BCE8E2B6C4E02BBADF296B4A2C6B4424F01827DFA03 B34D2025D4AAA63D83605C2F8063FCFE5864DC7E14AAD43A51 6F&sku_id=0665000FS10075693&catid=

[yaddam205]

Counter Strike 1.6?

Of course.

[yaddam205]

Why did you sell pinnacle?

[gr8golf]

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&MSCSProfile=3C79F0C7EA3162B2F4DE0859C8631BEAD3EE8B 5200DDDF6C91290ED60C526A86AC89B3683DFF98625BA5E055 BD9AF002D5F74F3A8316CC3C80E829F3F26EF9703932486B54 9A136F2BCE8E2B6C4E02BBADF296B4A2C6B4424F01827DFA03 B34D2025D4AAA63D83605C2F8063FCFE5864DC7E14AAD43A51 6F&sku_id=0665000FS10075693&catid=

That's what I thought you might have - I just got the same LCD and am trying to tweak it to my liking.

[Pinnacle]

Why did you sell pinnacle?

Well, my sister wanted a bigger monitor and I wanted to try out something new. Really, that Acer was great, on par with Dells 20in. Otherwise I wouldnt of sold it.

[yaddam205]

Well, my sister wanted a bigger monitor and I wanted to try out something new. Really, that Acer was great, on par with Dells 20in. Otherwise I wouldnt of sold it.

Bigger? lol its a 22"

[Pinnacle]

Bigger? lol its a 22"

Ya, she had a 17in LOL

This 20.1 is perfect I like it better then that 22in.

[Pinnacle]

That's what I thought you might have - I just got the same LCD and am trying to tweak it to my liking.

Are you in Canada?

[biohead]

Ya, she had a 17in LOL

This 20.1 is perfect I like it better then that 22in.
what about ghosting - your previous 22 2ms vs your current 20.1 5ms?

[Nephilim]

I use a 12ms panel and can't see ghosting in games... Maybe it's my old eyes, the world is blurry already so a little more makes no diff :bsod:

[Pinnacle]

what about ghosting - your previous 22 2ms vs your current 20.1 5ms?


It wasnt 2ms it was also 5ms. Very very little to none for both, the colors on this LG are much sharper

[yaddam205]

Well i jumped last night... and got it. Its great no ghosting on a 6 hr 1.6 session with a CAL-P match!

[syne_24]

Well i jumped last night... and got it. Its great no ghosting on a 6 hr 1.6 session with a CAL-P match!


Let see some pics now..how's image quality and viewing angle?

[nn_step]

I use a 12ms panel and can't see ghosting in games... Maybe it's my old eyes, the world is blurry already so a little more makes no diff :bsod:
Lets be honest 10ms refresh time is about
0.010 seconds per refresh
or
a 100hz refresh rate.

and since the standard user can't detect past 60hz
I see no need for a 2ms refresh rate

[SturmoV]

1680 x 1050 at 22" = nasty pixel pitch (at least for me) So, no thanks! :rolleyes:

[Sorrow13]

the 'quoted' refresh rate means close to nothing, its the real world observation that means the most. ive been looking at dell's 17/19s, how do they do for ghosting? I can get some tasty deals.

[Devious]

Has anybody else got this screen yet ?


I recieved my last week and im noticing ghosting in games when there is a dark area in from of a lighter background. The specs of the screen say "say goodbye to ghosting in games" or similar and that was the reason i went for a TFT over my solid 19" CRT.

Here is (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=0452935F71813E14 ) a link to a scene in oblivion.

Its about 21 mb, if I run it looped in media player i can see very prominent white ghosting next to the lighthouse and boat. If anyone else has this screen could try it then i could determine whether its faulty or wheher they are all as bad.

[DTU_XaVier]

Lets be honest 10ms refresh time is about
0.010 seconds per refresh
or
a 100hz refresh rate.

and since the standard user can't detect past 60hz
I see no need for a 2ms refresh rate
The response-time of an LCD-screen is the amount of time it takes for the diode to change its color (usually from grey to white to grey, IIRC), and therefore, you can usually divide 1000 with the response-time, to get the maximum number of FPS you can run without ghosting... it's not comparable to a refresh-rate ;)

Best Regards :toast:

[cupra]

$689, that is really crazy, dono the del 2407 is mach better and its cost lest.

[Cooper]

Hope you guys did check the date of the article ;)
22" model is less than $400 on froogle now

[cantankerous]

1680 x 1050 at 22" = nasty pixel pitch (at least for me) So, no thanks! :rolleyes:

I couldn't agree with you more. That is the whole reason I won't get a screen larger than 20" if it has a 1680x1050 or 1600x1200 resolution. The difference between 0.255 and 0.28 is very noticeable.

[XSAlliN]

Not worth it, wait for SED Technology - it will release this year.

[Rolle2k]

Not worth it, wait for SED Technology - it will release this year.

I don't believe it before i see it.. and the price will also be ALOT higher.. so i wouldn't tell people to wait.. but this screen would still be to expensive to me.. and i don't even want widescreen for the computer.

[Nicksterr]

Let see some pics now..how's image quality and viewing angle?

You don't want to use CS 1.6 as a comparison, game has horrible blocky graphics.

[XSAlliN]

I don't believe it before i see it.. and the price will also be ALOT higher.. so i wouldn't tell people to wait.. but this screen would still be to expensive to me.. and i don't even want widescreen for the computer.

Expensive - Yes, Impressive - Totally, I've seen it at CeBit in 2006, they promised advanced models for this year so be my guest, come at CeBit 2007 an say: :woot:

PS.Last year I've seen a sample, now they do an Exposition whit SED since 2007 will be the year they release - First TV, Monitor Later ;).

[clayton]

I rather spend my money on the nice LG monitor:
> LG LCD MONITOR 20" Widescreen @ Circuit City (http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/productDetail.do?oid=156262&WT.mc_n=60462&WT.mc_t=U&cm_ven=MANUFACTURERS&cm_cat=LG&cm_pla=CI%20PARTNERSHIP%20PROGRAM->VENDER%20SITE&cm_ite=30193%20DATAFEED_LG&cm_keycode=60462)

Oh wait, I already did >:)
________
SUBARU 1000 HISTORY (http://www.toyota-wiki.com/wiki/Subaru_1000)

[Soulburner]

I couldn't agree with you more. That is the whole reason I won't get a screen larger than 20" if it has a 1680x1050 or 1600x1200 resolution. The difference between 0.255 and 0.28 is very noticeable.
Mine looks pretty good ;)

[frankR]

I'd rather go for a 1920 x 1200 display.

[Soulburner]

I'd rather go for a 1920 x 1200 display.
Yup me too, when the good 24" models come down through next year I will make the switch, but this 22" was a great first LCD (came from CRT) and good to use to get used to widescreen. Not to mention 1/2 the price.

[MaxxxRacer]

The difference being both the LG and the Acer are the same Chi Mei panel (M220Z1-L01) and the Samsung uses a TN-Film panel with 8-bit colour processing.

Not quite sure how Samsung do it, but their TN-III panels are rated for full 16.7m colours as opposed to the 16.2m using dithering on the Chi Mei's.

Assuming Samsung's specs don't lie :p


Chi Mei sucks ass.. I've tried out a number of their laptop panels and they are all horrible. In my experience LG/Phillips and Samsung are generally prety good.

[XSAlliN]

Don't wait for SED anymore - liars delayed the production. :(

[Cuthalu]

Lets be honest 10ms refresh time is about
0.010 seconds per refresh
or
a 100hz refresh rate.

and since the standard user can't detect past 60hz
I see no need for a 2ms refresh rate

LCD-technolohy differs vastly from CRT-technology, so that comparison is not that valid.

60Hz CRT doesn't ghost but even 2ms LCD ghosts. Personally in desktop usage I can see too easily how 5ms panels do ghost very clearly. :I

[Soulburner]

LCD-technolohy differs vastly from CRT-technology, so that comparison is not that valid.

60Hz CRT doesn't ghost but even 2ms LCD ghosts. Personally in desktop usage I can see too easily how 5ms panels do ghost very clearly. :I
It isn't valid to check ghosting on the desktop. It behaves differently than it does while in full screen 3D.

[JoeBar]

A 22' @ 1680x1050 and with TN panel?

No thanks... :p:

[Soulburner]

Hey, don't knock it until you try it. The internet is full of "expert reviewers" :rolleyes:

[thunderstruck!]

The difference being both the LG and the Acer are the same Chi Mei panel (M220Z1-L01) and the Samsung uses a TN-Film panel with 8-bit colour processing.

Not quite sure how Samsung do it, but their TN-III panels are rated for full 16.7m colours as opposed to the 16.2m using dithering on the Chi Mei's.

Assuming Samsung's specs don't lie :p
Incorrect. the LG model uses an 8 bit panel.

[Cooper]

This website (http://www.lesnumeriques.com/duels.php?ty=6&ma1=41&mo1=102&p1=1025&ma2=150&ph=10) shows similar response time performance compared two PVA panel. 2ms G2G doesn`t mean it has ~4-5ms fall2rise :D

[Devious]

Asus say they know about my fault and are going to collect, fix and return it. I cant wait as it was a really good screen. Im back on my 19" CRT Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 920 for a few days and im missing the Asus already.