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johann
09-20-2006, 10:41 PM
My customer Raju contacted me with something special in mind so this unit I gathered only the best components I could find and got my good friend Dimas to make the case.

Specs:

Compressor: Danfoss NL11F
Condensor: Rifle tubing high performance from Placebo
Refrigerant: R402a
Cappilary: 2.7m 0.031"
Evap: @itor with acrylic kit
Controller: Gfroster XE 1.6

Temps:

Idle: -60c
150w constant: -45c
200w constant: -40c

@itor evap:

http://emerald.srv2.com/~sokkiesc/Fotos/Phase_Change/@itor/IMG_0261.jpg

http://emerald.srv2.com/~sokkiesc/Fotos/Phase_Change/@itor/IMG_0264.jpg

http://emerald.srv2.com/~sokkiesc/Fotos/Phase_Change/Raju/IMG_0463.jpg

DimasTech case with window. It is 590mm deep instead of the usual 490mm to fit under Lain Li PC70 case.

http://emerald.srv2.com/~sokkiesc/Fotos/Phase_Change/Raju/case_before.jpg

Plexiglass panel with 2 x LCD's. Will measure Condensor in/out temp. The panel will sit behind the Window panel

http://emerald.srv2.com/~sokkiesc/Fotos/Phase_Change/Raju/LCD2.jpg

Power box, contains 15v ac transformer for Gfroster, 5v DC for LCD's and Gfroster power module:

http://emerald.srv2.com/~sokkiesc/Fotos/Phase_Change/Raju/Power%20box2.jpg

http://emerald.srv2.com/~sokkiesc/Fotos/Phase_Change/Raju/Power%20box.jpg

Some shots of unit:

http://emerald.srv2.com/~sokkiesc/Fotos/Phase_Change/Raju/Raju_Idling.jpg

http://emerald.srv2.com/~sokkiesc/Fotos/Phase_Change/Raju/Raju_idle%20closeup.jpg

http://emerald.srv2.com/~sokkiesc/Fotos/Phase_Change/Raju/Raju_unit%20running.jpg

http://emerald.srv2.com/~sokkiesc/Fotos/Phase_Change/Raju/Raju_window.jpg

http://emerald.srv2.com/~sokkiesc/Fotos/Phase_Change/Raju/Raju_back_on.jpg

LED's in enclosure :D

http://emerald.srv2.com/~sokkiesc/Fotos/Phase_Change/Raju/IMG_0518.jpg

http://emerald.srv2.com/~sokkiesc/Fotos/Phase_Change/Raju/IMG_0521.jpg
LowRun
09-21-2006, 04:12 AM
Looks like it will be another nice one from you :cool:
pazza316
09-21-2006, 01:39 PM
Nice case and Evap mate!!

Good start!
Marvin
09-21-2006, 01:53 PM
looks great, as usual.
4Qman
09-21-2006, 04:09 PM
The encolsure is superb.
Brettbeck
09-22-2006, 08:41 AM
Great start!

That encolsure would look even better if it had some LEDs in there :D!
Raja@ASUS
09-22-2006, 09:14 PM
yeah we're gonna stick some leds in there, probably red to go with the case...
should be great..

regards
Raja
mykeos
09-23-2006, 02:38 AM
me likes that plexi thing;)
johann
09-23-2006, 06:16 AM
Added little plexiglass LCD bracket in 1st post.. It will be mounted behind then window panel and monitor condensor in/out temps :D
johann
10-04-2006, 01:57 AM
1st post updated with pics of virtually done unit. All that needs to be done is LEDs inside enclosure
Holst
10-04-2006, 02:51 AM
Looks absolutely superb, and very good performance with it.

Lets hope he can get some great clocks with his new toy :D
johann
10-04-2006, 03:14 AM
Looks absolutely superb, and very good performance with it.

Lets hope he can get some great clocks with his new toy :D

Thanks Holst, Raju will be bringing his machine over here on Saturday so we can have a bit of playtime and testing on his conroe
rapty
10-04-2006, 03:27 AM
Very Clean unit I like the LED's on the side

When can my Unit be sent to be modded by you Johann :D
Athens[2004]
10-04-2006, 03:38 AM
Very Nice the only observation is for those ? aluminum ? screws , i think if u replace them with black screws the whole unit will look's more beautiful
johann
10-04-2006, 03:41 AM
Very Clean unit I like the LED's on the side

When can my Unit be sent to be modded by you Johann :D

PM me what you decided on Rapty and we go from there. The NL11F will proppably be here in a week from now.

Athens, that is a good idea. Raju will make the decision. It is his unit :)
pazza316
10-04-2006, 02:03 PM
Nice unit mate!!

Looks great! and good temps!
Brettbeck
10-04-2006, 02:13 PM
Looks great:)! Are you going to put any LEDs in the enclosure?
Pete
10-04-2006, 03:04 PM
Amazing, wish i had my rig back many months on now!
Raja@ASUS
10-06-2006, 11:35 PM
I'll be setting up and testing next week, on the Abit Awd9 Max...

After testing the board will go to Johann, he can bench with it further...


The phase unit should be something real special, my E6600 can already hit superpi 1m at 4ghz with 1.54 vcore on water. On phase who knows, ultimatley I trhink I'll hit an fsb wall onthe 975 chipset. I'm awaiting DFI's new board....

regards
Raja
Unseen
10-07-2006, 10:57 AM
very nice unit johan. Great work :)
johann
10-08-2006, 11:38 PM
Thanks Unseen :D
LukeXE
10-09-2006, 04:50 AM
Great, great, great Johann ! I like your units, they are powerfull and very clean :)
johann
10-09-2006, 06:07 AM
Realy nice Johann, your customer will be very happy :)

On a side note, those little LCD thermometers are pretty good value for money. They only go a little off when you get down to low temps, for a condensor theyre grand. The blue backlight behind the large black characters looks damned sexy too! :D

Top notch work and attention to detail.

Tom

Thanks Tom and Luke! Sure the lcd's are great. They look fine and when not monitoring evap temps or sub zero temp works quite good. I found at around -40c they are about 5-7c off but at above 0 they seem pretty close
Ssilencer
10-09-2006, 08:34 AM
Looks excellent!
I want to see it with the leds and mounted over his conroe!
Messiah Khan
10-09-2006, 08:38 AM
Don't you dare mount LEDs in it! I want mine to be the first of the see through enclosures with mounted LEDs.:( :p: Hold it off a few month until Gray gets mine sorted will you please.

Great work by the way. Very neat and tidy.
Blaster
10-09-2006, 08:40 AM
yes, it looks great

good job m8 :)
Weee
10-09-2006, 12:07 PM
Well, I don't read here much anymore, but I really like this one, so I thought I'd give you a positive comment! Very cool, very neat, I like the look overall =)
johann
10-11-2006, 10:03 AM
LED's in enclosure :D

http://emerald.srv2.com/~sokkiesc/Fotos/Phase_Change/Raju/IMG_0518.jpg

http://emerald.srv2.com/~sokkiesc/Fotos/Phase_Change/Raju/IMG_0521.jpg
aasmaukr
10-11-2006, 10:05 AM
Ooh nice :p: Looks very good.
Brettbeck
10-11-2006, 11:07 AM
Yea that looks really nice :)!
Raja@ASUS
10-11-2006, 11:19 AM
yeah he really nailed it right through the build, should be here by the weekend, so I gotta learn fast how to insulate these cap riddled 975 boards....

regards
Raja
Ssilencer
10-11-2006, 12:04 PM
Oh, I thought you be pouting the leds in the base, but looks nice anyway!
Raja@ASUS
10-11-2006, 12:41 PM
Oh, I thought you be pouting the leds in the base, but looks nice anyway!


it's the business, could not have hoped for a better unit, I wish I had an x6800 like yours now....

Maybe opb can be convinced to part with that 5.5ghz beast he's playing with, though I doubt it...

regards
Raja
Marvin
10-11-2006, 07:18 PM
perfecto.:D
Gray Mole
10-11-2006, 11:15 PM
That head looks stunning with LED's, I knew it would :D

Can't wait for mine to arrive, 4 white LED's planned for that one for Mr. Khan :woot:

All in all, the usual top quality work we have come to expect :toast:


Gray
johann
10-11-2006, 11:49 PM
That head looks stunning with LED's, I knew it would :D

Can't wait for mine to arrive, 4 white LED's planned for that one for Mr. Khan :woot:

All in all, the usual top quality work we have come to expect :toast:


Gray

Cheers Gray, I have had problem in my foot making me pretty much static but I have asked my fiance to ship you evap today so you shall receive it tomorrow.
Gray Mole
10-12-2006, 01:06 AM
Dam, you with a bad foot, me with a bad hand :p:

Shame we can't work together, would almost have a whole person :D

No biggie, I can't build it til my hand heals, but I DO need to know it's shape to be sure about how it will work for Mr. Khan.

Well, that and I want some time to drool on it before I have to send it away :slobber: hehe

If it looks as nice as your build when it's done I'll be pretty happy with it :)


Gray
johann
10-12-2006, 01:12 AM
Yeah you wont believe Gray, I got something in my foot no one of my age should have (27) Its some form of crystals in the joint, extreme pain. Apparently caused by Acidy stuff and alcohol but the weird thing is I dont drink much beer atall. Id have 3 or 4 pints on Poker nigth but thats about it.

Today the swelling seems down for the first time so hope its all better soon.
jinu117
10-12-2006, 01:36 AM
Disabled guys. At least glad to see both of you being around :)
Give me a holler when you can :)
Messiah Khan
10-12-2006, 06:40 AM
Its called gout isn't it Johann? Not nice at all. Whats with all you phase builders falling apart? As Gray says, maybe you should use all your working bits to make a frankenstein builder.:p: I was just thinking(I appoligise for thinking aloud) but would a tricolour LED work in the enclosure? That way you could change the colout theme witout having to mod the enclosure again? On a similar note, can you get tricolour LEDs that go to white?
johann
10-13-2006, 03:13 AM
Its called gout isn't it Johann? Not nice at all. Whats with all you phase builders falling apart? As Gray says, maybe you should use all your working bits to make a frankenstein builder.:p: I was just thinking(I appoligise for thinking aloud) but would a tricolour LED work in the enclosure? That way you could change the colout theme witout having to mod the enclosure again? On a similar note, can you get tricolour LEDs that go to white?

Yeah thats what its called but I prefer to not call it that, my grandfather had it cronically. Yeah me and Gray had a laugh this morning, we decided he will carry me around on his back. His legs are fine and my hands are fine, with two brains we will produce some wicked phase units :D

As for the led's, thats a good idea for sure but to be honest I never really looked into multicolored LED's because we decided on the red theme from the beginning.

You do get white led's so Im sure you get some multicolored ones with white as one of the colors.
Raja@ASUS
10-21-2006, 10:16 AM
installed!!!, unfortunatley the only working mobo I have is the fsb limited Infinity..

excuse the somewhat fuzzy pics, my camera is not very good.

http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/7600/unit2004kh8.jpg

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5523/p1260016hl0.jpg

In any case with 1.6 vcore (bios) and dual orthos running at 380fsb (about the limit of this mobo on the older beta bios) temps are never lower than -44 on the evap under full Orthos dual blend test load, great temp I think. Unforunatley there is no software that shows an accurate reading in XP. Idle at this vcore (1.6) in xp is around -52 degrees.



http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2752/unit3002nk1.jpg

I am going to leave Orthos running for a few hours to let the heat fully test the unit.. After 20 mins we are at -44 with 1.6vcore full load..



regards
Raja
LittleDevil
10-21-2006, 10:26 AM
It looks really nice, mybe little too long flex but no problem ;)

What kind of CPU do you have?

thanks
Dimas
10-21-2006, 10:40 AM
good performance, and good mount of that system;)
Raja@ASUS
10-21-2006, 10:49 AM
HI Guys

Conroe E6600, Johann left it long so I could bench with the unit too and also to allow a little flexibilty for other cases. Nealry 1 hour now of Orhtos dual blend test and still -45 on evap at 1.6vcore!


regards
Raja
johann
10-21-2006, 12:17 PM
Fan speed low? -45c?

Your system as a whole looks incredible Raju :D
Raja@ASUS
10-21-2006, 12:45 PM
yeah man it's on low, I have not changed any settings on the froster, I have not even connected the froster to the seriel header on the mobo. I assume that's how I would change to high?


regards
Raja....
johann
10-21-2006, 01:11 PM
That would be around 45-55cfm on the condensor, excellent :D

Get some screenies!
Cupcake
10-21-2006, 01:18 PM
now about how much would one of those cost me if i gave you a mach II to work with ??
Raja@ASUS
10-21-2006, 01:43 PM
ok work in progress, downloaded xe 1.6 software and set fans to high, running Orthos now....
temp offset is at zero, I assume that's where it should be?

regards
Raja
Raja@ASUS
10-21-2006, 08:50 PM
unit holds great temps overnight with Orthos

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9499/5hrsis0.jpg

1.6vcore shows 1.56 in xp..

Will try dual super pi next..
Raja@ASUS
10-21-2006, 08:57 PM
idle

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/9511/idleku4.jpg
Raja@ASUS
10-21-2006, 09:14 PM
under dual superpi load..


http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3310/dualpitempsdu7.jpg
LittleDevil
10-22-2006, 03:32 AM
Great, what about if you try to put more voltage on your CPU and FSB for example 400?

Are you using dielectric gerase?

thanks?
Raja@ASUS
10-22-2006, 03:43 AM
Great, what about if you try to put more voltage on your CPU and FSB for example 400?

Are you using dielectric gerase?

thanks?


Unfortunatley this mobo is limited to 385fsb regardless of voltage.

I did have a brief run with the Asus P5WDG2 Pro before I killed the mobo,

temps were -45 on load at 4ghz and 1.6vcore. Here's a screenshot, ignore the time change in Orthos as I used microsoft time update server during the 4hour run, as can be seen on the screenshot.

I think the temps are excellent really for Conroe which seems to make most stock units struggle when at 1.6v and over.

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/710/4hoursgj0.jpg

I am using dialectric grease..


regards
Raja
kayl
10-22-2006, 05:07 AM
installed!!!, unfortunatley the only working mobo I have is the fsb limited Infinity..
excuse the somewhat fuzzy pics, my camera is not very good.
In any case with 1.6 vcore (bios) and dual orthos running at 380fsb (about the limit of this mobo on the older beta bios) temps are never lower than -44 on the evap under full Orthos dual blend test load, great temp I think. Unforunatley there is no software that shows an accurate reading in XP. Idle at this vcore (1.6) in xp is around -52 degrees.
I am going to leave Orthos running for a few hours to let the heat fully test the unit.. After 20 mins we are at -44 with 1.6vcore full load..
regards
Raja
thats was quick getting that unit out johann :toast:
the DFI Infinity suck with their FSB limit, one of my customers was stuck at 377 i think on air, then even with phase no difference and water cooling on NB not 1fsb more, he only had a E6400 though.
i know i tune all my units with 1.7v bios, first turn on is the hardest part on the cooler.
Raja@ASUS
10-22-2006, 05:15 AM
thats was quick getting that unit out johann :toast:
the limited Infinity suck with their FSB limit, one of my customers was stuck at 377 i think on air, then even with phase no difference and water cooling on NB not 1fsb more, he only had a E6400 thought.
i know i tune all my units with 1.7v bios, first turn on is the hardest part on the cooler.


yeah bro' I know this board inside out, it's just a stop gap while I await the new DFI boards. The Asus PRO had an fsb wall off 445 out of bios, and the cpu and unit creamed all of that without sweat. I WIl update this thread when I get a real decent board that can manage 500fsb, I don't want to commit to anything just yet considering the DFI RD 600 should be here soon.

regards
Raja
Raja@ASUS
10-25-2006, 10:16 AM
ok so I set the vcore to 1.71v in bios, to see what this unit can really do with some heat from my e6600...

work in progress....

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/8823/orthos29mpi0.jpg
Raja@ASUS
10-25-2006, 11:11 AM
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/407/1hr21tn2.jpg
Raja@ASUS
10-25-2006, 11:24 AM
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/8549/idle171uo8.jpg
Raja@ASUS
10-25-2006, 11:37 AM
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/821/dual32mtemps171os7.jpg
krullet
10-25-2006, 12:40 PM
omg sooooo nice, i want that i really want it fu*king amazing
johann
10-27-2006, 01:22 AM
omg sooooo nice, i want that i really want it fu*king amazing

Thanks man, Im really happy with this machine. It has never seen less than -42c ever which for me is amazing temp to hold.
Revv23
11-02-2006, 10:04 AM
Very well built and sexy unit.
Raja@ASUS
11-02-2006, 10:53 AM
with the new fan speed settings in the froster 2.7 software, temp is even better by one degree at idle -57 (1.4vcore idle) and -51 (1.71 vcore idle) and under load. -44 ~ -43 with 1.71 vcore (1.66 under dual orthos load), which is incredible!

thanks to johann and Ssilencer for all the support!

regards
Raja
LukeXE
11-02-2006, 12:29 PM
Amazing unit, congrats raju, Johann is great builder and it was good idea to take SS from him :toast: Temperatures are just...insane, one of the best SS I ever seen
Ssilencer
11-02-2006, 12:41 PM
with the new fan speed settings in the froster 2.7 software, temp is even better by one degree at idle -57 and under load. -44 ~ -43 with 1.71 vcore (1.66 under dual orthos load), which is incredible!

thanks to johann and Ssilencer for all the support!

regards
Raja

Enjoy your state of the art unit man :cool:
johann
11-02-2006, 11:54 PM
Amazing unit, congrats raju, Johann is great builder and it was good idea to take SS from him :toast: Temperatures are just...insane, one of the best SS I ever seen

Hey thats my baby, Im glad she is running that nice. :D
stormcloud
03-16-2007, 01:26 PM
Awsome work I love that case:D