Weird 1700+

[spaceman]

O.K., I finally got around to putting my 1.5 vcore 1700+ in my rig, a 0308RPMW, and it acts way different than I expected. With default vcore, and a 133 FSB, I couldn't use a 13x multiplier or higher, even with lots more vcore. On a crazy whim, I tried 10x200, and it ran fine. I actually got up to 11x200 on 1.5v, then 11.5x200 needed 1.6 vcore, then 12x200 needed 1.7 vcore. That's the max I can get using a 200FSB at any vcore, I tried as high as 1.85, and decided to stop. I'll see how much I can crank on the FSB tomorrow, after she runs all night @ 2406 MHz. This is air-cooled with a PAL8045, BTW, on a vdd modded 8RDA+ Rev.1.0, so I know the higher multis work on this board. Also, I can't figure out why I get really crappy 3DMark '01SE scores, couldn't even break 10k, with a 9700 Pro. :confused: Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but I was kinda hoping for more than a measly 970 MHz. overclock. ;) :D I'll be playing with it a little more tonight, and tomorrow for sure, so I'll keep ya's posted, if I figure something out.

[beatnic]

im having the same problem with my 0310WPMW too.. at 200fsb, i cannot boot with 12x200 @ vcore over 1.7v.. grrr

[spaceman]

Ha, I feel like an idiot now. :rolleyes: I forgot I had the vid card settings cranked up, so it threw off my benching. :p ;) I just ran Rallisport Challenge hard for awhile @ 12x200, and it never went over 48c w/1.7vcore, so I'm pretty happy with it for now. At least until tomorrow. :D

[silence]

Athlon 1700+ max. multiplier is 13x. I don't think you can get a higher multiplier than that. There might be a bridge mod for that, but as far as I know, 12.5 is it.

Athlon 2100+ and above have 13x multiplier capabilities and above.

[SektorX]

You can only get to multipliers higher than 12.5x if you hardcode them on the cpu using the bridges

[Liquid3D]

Originally posted by silence
Athlon 1700+ max. multiplier is 13x. I don't think you can get a higher multiplier than that. There might be a bridge mod for that, but as far as I know, 12.5 is it... Perhaps this is what your thinking of; http://www.overclockers.com.au/article.php?id=118669

[Liquid3D]

Originally posted by spaceman
O.K., I finally got around to putting my 1.5 vcore 1700+ in my rig, a 0308RPMW....@ 2406 MHz... Would you mind posting the entire code, I'm collecting data for a theory I have. Please.

[spaceman]

That would be AXDA1700DLT3C 9231897260572 JIUHB0308RPMW . It came from Excaliber, specifically saying 1.5 vcore. :)

[spaceman]

Welp, this chip didn't really want to do any more, got 2450 for a bit, but not really stable. I did manage to break my old 3DMark 01SE record with it tho. :cool: I also topped out the category, if you punch in XP chip, 9700 class, on WinXP. I realize a lot of chips are "unknown" tho, so that's not exactly accurate. :rolleyes: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6331491

[XtremepH]

yea i got one from excaliberpc as well and doesn't do anything over 2435 stable no matter how much volts ya give it.

[Liquid3D]

BTW Thanx Space
Originally posted by XtremepH
yea i got one from excaliberpc as well and doesn't do anything over 2435 stable no matter how much volts ya give it. That's almost a 1.0GHz overclock, I believe were misinterpreting the "Theory of Relativity." Yes relative to most other recent 1.4GHz TBred-B's, that's several hundred MHz under what has been accomplished. But when was the last time IN THE HISTORY of PC's did we see $60 CPU perform well above PR models which have not yet hit the shelves? The 3200+ is rated at 2167MHz, albeit a 400FSB/512K cache (demarcating the PR model). That would be a "nominal" overclock for a $300 + CPU.

Would yoyu mind posting the entire code for that CPU XtremepH? I'd be very grateful, as I'm attempting to accumulate raw data on the legitimacy of the "relabled theory." I mean it's painfuly obvious given the overclock's, they have been remarking and selling their inventory of core's originally slated for 26,27,28,2900+ and above. However, I've still to determine if the 8th/9th places in 2nd line of code is representitive of that original speed. Irregardless, their bound to change the marking system, very soon, if they don't run out of processor's. Adn i have a horrific feeling, soon ther will be 1700+ only able to reach 1800MHz at best.

[baller02]

i have also a dlt3c jiuhb 0308 rpmw and my chip does 2500 mhz with 1,78 v @200x12,5.

i used a 8rda+ vdd modded to 1,82v and max multiplier you can use is 12,5 only for xp's with default multi 13 and higher multiplier 5-24 are available.

today i got an nfs7s rev 2.0, this board uses 5bit multiplier control and i can use now all multis with my xp1700+ also 13 and higher.

with the nf7s i'm currently @ 12x209

ps: i'm using slk800 and no modds to the nf7s

[bito]

You can 'blow' the third and last (From left to right) L3 bridges to efffectively make the chip an XP2100+. This gives access to all multipliers on the Epox's. I've successfully done this on 3 cpu's.

[STEvil]

The max multiplier on a 1700+ is 12.5x unless you have unlocked the higher ones yourself, which changes the range to 13x and up.

[Liquid3D]

Originally posted by baller02
i have also a dlt3c jiuhb 0308 rpmw and my chip does 2500 mhz with 1,78 v @200x12,5....today i got an nfs7s rev 2.0, this board uses 5bit multiplier control and i can use now all multis with my xp1700+ also 13 and higher...with the nf7s i'm currently @ 12x209.... Would you mind posting the entire line of code of that chip here, I'm trying to obtain as much raw data as possible to test a few theories. I would be very grateful. I'm thinking of the Abit for my next board, I've heard their excellent overclocking platforms. Even the first NF7 had an adjustable VDD (to 1.7V), but now their into the new stepping on the nForce2, and as much Vcore, and VDDR as any enthusiast can be enthusiastic about. BTW what's the VDD go up to on thuis one? I it still 1.7V?

[Liquid3D]

Originally posted by bito
You can 'blow' the third and last (From left to right) L3 bridges to efffectively make the chip an XP2100+. This gives access to all multipliers on the Epox's. I've successfully done this on 3 cpu's.
I thought all one had to do was circumvent the last L3 (connecting it) with conductive ink? Here's the article/mod I'm speaking of: http://www.overclockers.com.au/article.php?id=118669

EDIT: Oh now I get it the chip in that mod is a AXDA2400DKV3C. Apparantly those L3 bridge points are already laser pitted (opened). Doh