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KJatl
09-01-2006, 06:54 AM
I appologize for the long post but I'm trying to be as thorough and accurate in the re-telling of events as possible.

Specs in sig.
HD's: 2x WD SATA and 1 Seagate 320gb SATA II / 16mb

Install #1: Put Windows XP Pro (No SPs) cd in drive, booted from cd, inserted Serial ATA driver floppy when needed, made 2 partitions on the 320gb, a 30GB for windows and a 200gb to serve as the "Program Files" folder/drive. Left the remaining space unformated for the time being. Proceeded to install windows on the 30gb partition. Setup constantly couldn't find files on the CD, I had to clean it, re-insert it, windows would proceed for a few seconds, then be unable to find another needed file. After about 5 times, I gave up. The XP CD was badly scratched and I think it had run its course.

Install #2: Attained a XP Pro SP2 cd. Did not need to use SATA driver floppy. Proceeded to install windows, everything works fine. I install motherboard drivers, nvidia drivers, games, benchmarking apps, etc, etc. All is good. Then I put in my samsung widescreen lcd driver cd and (!?!). My dvd-rw drive dissappears from 'My Computer'. I check hardware manager device list, nothing. No unknown devices either. I go to manually install it and I don't even have the option of installing any optical drives. After rebooting and a few more trouble-shooting steps, I decide it was a freak occurance and re-isntall.

Install #3: Re-format the 30gb partition and re-install windows with the SP2 cd. Everything is fine. Re-install motherboard and display drivers, reboot, put in the Samsung driver cd, double-click My Computer and NO DVD-RW DRIVE. I *know* this drive works because I just installed windows with it! I turn off the computer. Check IDE cable connection. Everything is plugged in fine, but just to be sure I swap out the IDE cable. Reboot. Still no DVD-RW drive in windows NOR is there even any CD-ROM/DVD-ROM option in the list of hardware to manually install. No unknown devices in the control panel. No sign of the drive at all.

Later I find this while researching the issue:
From the MS Support site: "CD-ROM drive or DVD-ROM drive appears to be missing after you install Windows XP or Windows Vista Beta 2"

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;320553

When I get home from work, I turn on the computer and get 'HAL.dll file missing' after POST. I reboot, same thing. I insert the XP SP2 cd and set cdrom as primary boot device, and this time I get NTLDR missing. Sweet. :banana:

Install #4: Again using XP SP2 cd, I go to re-install windows. When I get to the format/partition options I go to delete the 30GB partition. Then, I try to install windows on that same partition and it says Windows will need to setup some files/settings on one of my WD SATA drives to continue installing on the
30gb partition of my Seagate drive. WHAT!? I quit the installation, unplug my
2 WD SATA drives, and once again install windows. Now on the format/partition screen there is an 8mb partition before the 30gb partition. I install windows on the 30gb, and when setup is complete and I login to windows this is the outcome: the main windows partition is labeled as D:, the 200gb partition (which still has programs and games installed being carried over through these various installations) is labeled as C:, AND it has the boot.ini, NTLDR, etc. on it.

When I do Start, Run, diskmgmt.msc, I cannot change the letters of the C: or D: partitions; as they both seem to be recognized as boot/system partitions.
The 30gb windows D: drive does NOT have boot.ini or the other system files normally found on the windows drive. I also ran chckdsk and another HD diagnosis tool that checked each 'block' of the HD and both came up fine. I ran prime 95 stable overnight as well. Just covering the bases...

I'm confused and utterly frustrated. I'm currently at work with the computer still running back at the house; I'm afraid to reboot. I've resorted to getting a 'Student Version' of XP SP2 and will try that when I get home. But seriously...wtf? :cussing:

KJatl
09-02-2006, 12:07 PM
Update: Looks to be a bad IDE slot on the Gigabyte DS3. Could not use a linux boot disk on this sysem, swapped out the IDE cable and the problem persisted, used the same cd drive and cd on another system and it worked fine.

Conclusion: Bad IDE slot? I don't see what else it could be...

ewsforos
09-05-2006, 09:00 AM
Depends on which Linux distro you are using, and if it is an old one, it might not have a kernel up-to-date enough to include the driver for the controller on the DS3. Try downloading the latest version of it ;)

PS: Just saw about the wintendo problems as well (only checked out Linux initially). Just make sure that your BIOS detects the drives correctly and that the IDE cables are properly installed on both ends and the ends pushed in the slots. In some cases they might need a bit of "gentle persuasion" (a.k.a. sledgehammer :p:) to go in properly.

Hope that helps

freecableguy
09-05-2006, 09:05 AM
bad SATA cable? I bought 12 one time and 2 were bad.... :(

ewsforos
09-05-2006, 11:40 PM
I'd also try swapping the memory modules. A number of incompatibilities have been reported with the DSx series. Give this a try as well and let us know :)

Dave_Sz
09-12-2006, 01:46 PM
I hope you're not installing windows while your PC is overclocked...

jackies
09-16-2006, 01:11 PM
Bad SATA drive? I had a friend who purchased 2 new SATA drives and had to rma both, he was like - I cannot install windoz... Then he realized the drives were faulty...

Doumz
09-16-2006, 01:31 PM
make sure you're system is @stock,if it's still fail then it's probably a bad cable or port

if you're system is not @stock,sometime windows don't want to install,even if the overclock is usually stable in windows

Carsten
09-16-2006, 01:57 PM
Maybe a bad harddrive ? Did you check with another harddrive

-------CB

killzone
09-17-2006, 09:08 AM
sounds like a sata cd drive had the same probs on my plextor 712sa, had to install on an ide cd drive

AlbanianOC
09-17-2006, 07:53 PM
it is the ds3 since I had the same problem.