Two new ET:QW videos, showing how the game actually plays out

[DilTech]

http://www.gamespot.com/search.html?qs=quake%20wars&sub=m&stype=11&type=11

The official movie's 1 & 2 show a bit about strogg and human teams, what they do, and how they play.

BF2142 has no prayer against this one...

The objective based play in this game just looks insane!

[Revv23]

too bad you have to register, im much too lazy. :D

[ocmyface]

it looks pretty awesome, its a nice mix of BF and UT2k4's assault mode. unfortunately i can already see two downsides to this: one i can see is if your in a server full of kids that wont work together and all want to be soldiers (fortunately BF2142 will catch most of those kids ;) ) and the other is that it could easily turn out to be a spam war like in ut2k4 assault games where everyone just sits at the objective and spams so nobody can achieve it.

but honestly with the speed of the gameplay i dont think number 2 is much of a concern

[Johnny Bravo]

Tis my worry too that folk will join a side and do a little sabotage, still looks mint and if you can form your own little team then I think it'll be a great hit!

[Stuperman]

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=145052

Link to videos with no registration needed.

Looks sweet to me!

[Revv23]

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=145052

Link to videos with no registration needed.

Looks sweet to me!

thanks!

Watching now!

[Hicks]

it looks pretty awesome, its a nice mix of BF and UT2k4's assault mode. unfortunately i can already see two downsides to this: one i can see is if your in a server full of kids that wont work together and all want to be soldiers (fortunately BF2142 will catch most of those kids ;) ) and the other is that it could easily turn out to be a spam war like in ut2k4 assault games where everyone just sits at the objective and spams so nobody can achieve it.

but honestly with the speed of the gameplay i dont think number 2 is much of a concern

Noobs can be a pain in team based games, but they always have been and always will be. There will still be plenty of good players.

[Sanborn]

Not looking too bad, although I think its going to be complete chaos.

Honestly, the ET:QW comparisons are stupid. BF2142 comes out October....Quake Wars comes out when??? Yeah probably March. You can buy BF2 in early October and play it for 6 or more months atleast before QW even comes out.

And if we are going to make these comparisons - QW:ET is going to get slaughtered by Crysis and UT2007 imo.

[Starscream]

Not looking too bad, although I think its going to be complete chaos.

Honestly, the ET:QW comparisons are stupid. BF2142 comes out October....Quake Wars comes out when??? Yeah probably March. You can buy BF2 in early October and play it for 6 or more months atleast before QW even comes out.

And if we are going to make these comparisons - QW:ET is going to get slaughtered by Crysis and UT2007 imo.

Crysis si hard to say Farcry MP sucked ass.
Maybe Crysis MP will be cool and stuff but hard to say.

[Shpoon]

NAh, QW will do amazingly wel because of the RTCW and ET following....

Those games rocked, this is even better.

[DilTech]

Not looking too bad, although I think its going to be complete chaos.

Honestly, the ET:QW comparisons are stupid. BF2142 comes out October....Quake Wars comes out when??? Yeah probably March. You can buy BF2 in early October and play it for 6 or more months atleast before QW even comes out.

And if we are going to make these comparisons - QW:ET is going to get slaughtered by Crysis and UT2007 imo.

BF2142 comes out in october, but the first patch to make it playable won't release until after ET:QW releases.

Comparisons can be made between ET:QW and BF simply because they are similiar style games. Crysis mp isn't going to be team oriented class specific gameplay, neither is UT2k7, but ET and BF will be.

You compare apples with apples, not kiwi. Can you dig it?

[Sanborn]

BF2142 is playable now in the 1.2 beta, more so then BF2. To say Crysis and UT2k7 won't be team-oriented class specific gameplay is a little far fetched considering there hardly any difference in class-based gameplay other than locking a certain class from using other class weapons.

UT2007 has a huge warfare mode that is goal oriented and Crysis has it, as seen below:

"Crysis Power Struggle
Crysis Power Struggle has taken many of the current irritations in existing popular FPS multiplayers and effectively disentangled them in a very notable gameplay mode titled “Power Struggle”.

In Power Struggle you’ll start the game as a primitive grunt – either US or Korean. You’ll be given just the very basics including basic armor and a pistol. As you make kills and achieve other goals (like securing capture points), you’ll earn credits which can be used to obtain bigger and better things. Your headquarters will be armed with automated missiles and turrets – effectively eliminating base campers altogether. Your headquarters may be an offshore submarine or inland base.

You’ll have access to two types of suits

1) The Prototype suit – You’ll have this at the beginning. This will give you very basic armour and strength capabilities 2) The Production Nano suit – You’ll have access to this once you’ve got enough credits. This will enable more advance armour and strength and also allow some degree of cloaking. This will require a high level of credits to obtain.

Crysis multiplayer will provide a raft of different vehicles and machines including: (but not limited to)

Water based

- Patrol Boats - Inflatable zodiacs - Whalers - Hovercrafts - Submarines - Ships

Land based

- Trucks - Jeeps - Armored personnel carriers - Mobile AA units - Tanks - Hovercrafts

Air

- Attack Helicopters - VTOL Jets

Such vehicles and machines just don’t just spawn – your side will have to take control of certain capture zones in order to be able to manufacture them. The capture zones won’t be just markers on a map – rather they will be factories, ports, motorworks etc. For example capturing a port will enable the production of water based vehicles. Capturing a zone will involve simply standing in a specific room for a small amount of time. You’ll gain credits for this also.

Once your team captures a zone, it doesn’t just start manufacturing the goods. It provides the means to manufacturer but you first must of all order your desired machine or vehicle through your PDA and have a certain number of credits available. Your PDA will provide you with a key code so that no one else can take what you’ve ordered!. You will have the opportunity to give your order to another team member though.

While you can have multiple vehicles/machines you can only manage one at a time. The others can be locked in a somewhat secure area. They won’t be completely safe though as the enemy can pick your locks and steal your equipment. Also, if for any reason you leave your vehicle and the enemy is snooping around they can jump in and claim it as theirs.

Throughout the game your rank will change as you gain more credits. The higher rank you have the more toys you’ll have access to.

Getting the right balance is perhaps the most pertinent issue. While new players may think it’s grossly unfair that all they will have is a single pistol to compete with other players with some serious firepower it won’t quite be like this. Firstly new players will be able to steal others machines/vehicles. Secondly, those players with higher ranks won’t be after the new players as they will have very little to gain from killing them and more so be jeopardizing their entire team. Players with high ranks will get the greatest benefit from killing opponents with a higher rank level. Based on this it’s likely that you’ll be fighting others with a similar rank.

Crysis Multiplayer brings a whole new level of realism. If your aircraft runs out of bombs, you won’t be able to simply fly over the runway to reload. You’ll have to land and retrieve them yourself. If you tank gets damaged you’ll have to use a welders touch to patch it up.

Perhaps the most stirring part of Crysis Multiplayer is the alien aspect that will be incorporated. Each map will have one to five alien crash sites that will be in randomly generated areas. After infiltrating one of these you’ll have to locate the alien core. Bringing this back to one of your capture zones will allow you to reverse engineer the alien technology for use in existing human technology. For example you’ll able to convert a standard tank into a Molecular Accelerator tank that fires deadly ice pieces. It won’t be at all easy to bring the core to a captured point. Once you’ve got the core, every player – both allied and opponent will know you’ve got it and will probably be after you. Therefore you’re going to need good teamwork to fend off any threat and protect you.

As you gain more alien cores and take them to each capture point, your team will gradually take control of the game. Winning the game will be achieved once the opponent HQ is destroyed. The only way to do this is to driving attack with the alien technology arsenal.

One more unique factor is the time of each game. A game could last as long as ten hours!. Also every two hours of gameplay (both in the single player mode and multiplayer mode) are equal to one Crysis day. With the dynamic day/night cycles you’re going to playing on the same map both during the day and under the stars!"

I'm not saying QW:ET is a bad game...I KNOW I WILL OWN AND PLAY IT.. but the comparisons if any should be made are stupid. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to know that Crysis will outsell QW:ET by a freakin boatload.

[Sanborn]

Current standings on 1up.com

Crysis
on 1up.com #124
on PC #24
In FPS # 6

Quake Wars: Enemy Territory
on 1up.com #3590
on PC #8317
In FPS #111

You think its going to matter that a couple thousand people played Enemy Territory and RTCW ?

[DilTech]

UT2k7 has conquest mode IIRC. As for crysis's new mode, shockingly enough I've never heard of that, so thanks for the heads up there.

Also, of course crysis is high up on the food chain.... One, it's 1up.com(on the list of sites I won't even visit). Two, crysis is currently one of the most, if not THE MOST hyped game upcoming right now, while quake wars you have to dig if you want info on it, like most games based on id ip's...

Whoever has the hottest graphics upcoming is guarenteed to be a high ranking upcoming game. Right now, graphically, crysis > all.

Not saying Crysis will be a bad game, quite the contrary actually, I think it'll be an amazing game. I'm merely saying you should know not to go by numbers like that.

Example, F.E.A.R. was farrrrr more anticipated/hyped than Quake 4, and Quake 4 outsold f.e.a.r....

[Sanborn]

Anytime, I love to spread the Crysis joy. The real question my friend....is how much of that "plan" will make it into the real game?

Anyways, these videos on QW are still cool. I think my fav part of the game other than the chracter detail is the fact that as an engineer (is that the name for it?) you can visually put down gun emplacements and stuff.

[DilTech]

Yeah, with the way everythings set up for quake wars, it's more like a RTS FPS than a normal shooter.

[Sanborn]

I wonder if they ever played Savage 1? That was the first game to do that, and Savage 2 is coming out end of this year. One of those small studio 6-man cult type games ;)

savage2.s2games.com

[DilTech]

Actually, first game to do that was a mod for Quake 3.

[Sanborn]

Oh was it team fortress or something?

The only mod I ever played for Quake 3 was some western mod and I was in an Urban Terror clan forever.

[afireinside]

QW looks like it will be a fun game to pub but this disappoints me even more because they said the game was made for competitive play but it looks like you're going to need a small army of people to do the maps.

[Shpoon]

Current standings on 1up.com

Crysis
on 1up.com #124
on PC #24
In FPS # 6

Quake Wars: Enemy Territory
on 1up.com #3590
on PC #8317
In FPS #111

You think its going to matter that a couple thousand people played Enemy Territory and RTCW ?

Actually, yes, I think it will matter...

Where're those numbers from anyways? People voting? I mean, I didn't even know that site existed until now ;)

What's #1?

Anyways, doesn't matter to me, I'll be buying ET:QW, Cryysis, and possibly UT07

[Hicks]

I just wanna get in the Strogg walker, and lay down some suppresion fire.:D

[Turok]

I would get the 2 videos from GameTrailers.com:
(No subscription required and you can stream it better)
http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?fs=1&id=1981

it looks pretty awesome, its a nice mix of BF and UT2k4's assault mode. unfortunately i can already see two downsides to this: one i can see is if your in a server full of kids that wont work together and all want to be soldiers (fortunately BF2142 will catch most of those kids ;) ) and the other is that it could easily turn out to be a spam war like in ut2k4 assault games where everyone just sits at the objective and spams so nobody can achieve it.

but honestly with the speed of the gameplay i dont think number 2 is much of a concern

Even if all the little brats want to be a soldier/assault in the game, they cant.
Like Wolf:ET, ET:QW will have limits per class ;)

Not looking too bad, although I think its going to be complete chaos.

Honestly, the ET:QW comparisons are stupid. BF2142 comes out October....Quake Wars comes out when??? Yeah probably March. You can buy BF2 in early October and play it for 6 or more months atleast before QW even comes out.

And if we are going to make these comparisons - QW:ET is going to get slaughtered by Crysis and UT2007 imo.

Why? Because you're a Dice fan and you even admited it on another thread?
The game hasnt even released and you are already bashing it as if you played it before :stick:
But if you look at BF2142, everyone knows it uses the terrible BF2 engine, there's basically no changes in the graphics engine, and the game just looks like another BF2 patch.

As for the release date:
Official release date is TBA, but if you look at this interview at GameTrailers:
E3 2K6 GT Interview 2 (http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=10864&type=mov&pl=game)
At the end he says they are planing on releasing it before this year, but if they feel its not ready they will ship it early 2007.
That says two things:
1) You know they have more time developing a game and they are developing until its right, unlike EA/Dice who release until its enough to make money.
2) The game will most likely ship before 2006, and if its not it wont be as exagerated as you said (March) :rolleyes:

QW looks like it will be a fun game to pub but this disappoints me even more because they said the game was made for competitive play but it looks like you're going to need a small army of people to do the maps.

Counter Strike (<=1.6) wasnt easy from start you know, but since its a competitive game it means that the limit isnt afther you defeat the n00bs, its when you defeat the pros.
And if you holded up to that experience, then it must be because you like the game ;)

[Sanborn]

I would get the 2 videos from GameTrailers.com:
(No subscription required and you can stream it better)
http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?fs=1&id=1981



Even if all the little brats want to be a soldier/assault in the game, they cant.
Like Wolf:ET, ET:QW will have limits per class ;)



Why? Because you're a Dice fan and you even admited it on another thread?
The game hasnt even released and you are already bashing it as if you played it before :stick:
But if you look at BF2142, everyone knows it uses the terrible BF2 engine, there's basically no changes in the graphics engine, and the game just looks like another BF2 patch.

As for the release date:
Official release date is TBA, but if you look at this interview at GameTrailers:
E3 2K6 GT Interview 2 (http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=10864&type=mov&pl=game)
At the end he says they are planing on releasing it before this year, but if they feel its not ready they will ship it early 2007.
That says two things:
1) You know they have more time developing a game and they are developing until its right, unlike EA/Dice who release until its enough to make money.
2) The game will most likely ship before 2006, and if its not it wont be as exagerated as you said (March) :rolleyes:



Counter Strike (<=1.6) wasnt easy from start you know, but since its a competitive game it means that the limit isnt afther you defeat the n00bs, its when you defeat the pros.
And if you holded up to that experience, then it must be because you like the game ;)

Ok sonny, first off: you need to take a chill pill.

1) I am a Dice fan, because I enjoy their games despite the bugs.. These are not competing games. You can have fun waiting 5+ months (it wont be released in January or early Feb and you know it) while drooling over screenshots while the rest of us are actually playings games and having fun.
2) I haven't BASHED Quake Wars, and have said repeated times in many QW threads that I will purchase and play it. I'm sorry if I got your knickers in a twist for liking more than 1 game at a time. And if you don't think UT2007 and Crysis are going to be unstoppable in sales against Quake Wars then I think you are in for a suprise. And by the way Quake Wars has been officially delayed into 2007 whether you like it or not.
3) Umm... Im not even sure why you brought up the engine...thats fairly obvious and no one has said otherwise.

[Revv23]

it looks awesome, i hope there are small maps too so you can just jump in and go, ya know?

[Turok]

Ok sonny, first off: you need to take a chill pill.

1) I am a Dice fan, because I enjoy their games despite the bugs.. These are not competing games. You can have fun waiting 5+ months (it wont be released in January or early Feb and you know it) while drooling over screenshots while the rest of us are actually playings games and having fun.
2) I haven't BASHED Quake Wars, and have said repeated times in many QW threads that I will purchase and play it. I'm sorry if I got your knickers in a twist for liking more than 1 game at a time. And if you don't think UT2007 and Crysis are going to be unstoppable in sales against Quake Wars then I think you are in for a suprise. And by the way Quake Wars has been officially delayed into 2007 whether you like it or not.
3) Umm... Im not even sure why you brought up the engine...thats fairly obvious and no one has said otherwise.

In several threads you always seemed to put ET:QW below BF2142 and you overhyped BF2142 which looks no more like a simple BF2 patch.
My perspective was that you really dont want ET:QW to look better because of fanboyism, since IMO ET:QW seems way better than the Battlefield series in every way as a large multyplayer war game.

I have nothing against UT2k7 and Crysis.
In fact, they have been on the top of my list since their announcement was official and they started showing screenshots

Even with the competition, I think ET:QW can become verry propular as a competitive multyplayer game like Quake3 and CS.
The gameplay is different and one would expect that the system requirements are lower than UT2k7 and Crysis, so this could appeal to mid-range and lower end users.
The game seems well thought and runs smooth. Modding and mapping will also be more effective than the Battlefield games.

[Sanborn]

Fanboyism for BF2142? What are you 15? Are you even hearing yourself talk?

You sir, have 0 clue what you are talking about and then anytime a decent point is made you and your padres accuse everyone of being a fanboy - stuff makes me sick. I WILL BE PLAYING QUAKE WARS STOP SAYING I AM A DICE FANBOY.

If anything, you have some sort of person grudge against any EA/Dice game made and fail to realize what exists and what does not. You have never played BF2142 so don't bother saying its BF2 patched.

[perkam]

I have both on my list and the fact that i will be playing bf 2142 for 6 months before ET:QW is enough to put both on the same level preference wise.

Perkam

[Ubermann]

ET:QW might be the first game i buy since..ehh wasteland for c64.

BF2142 looks boring..