suggest a processor for me

[Shady]

Hey everyone
I'm gonna do some Massive math calculations
and i mean MASSIVE
it could take days

what is a good processor for that ?
my budget is limited to maximum of 250 $ for the CPU

any suggestions ?
and please provide the reason.
Thanks

[eddieate]

well have you already got a motherboard and ram?
If you do it kinda limits your choices.
If you don't then a conroe is probally your best bet is one of these (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819115004) (I assume your in america)
thats the best conroe for under $250 but this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819115005) one will offer the same performance overclocked.
I hope that helps although if you fill us in a bit on what you already have then we could probally help more :)
Ed.

[perkam]

A preference to AMD or Intel always helps.

Eddieate has offered the Intel choice, the AMD choice is a tad easier: http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=A64-46CUBX&c=fr&pid=05dbb1ebe174bf5ed5b2c40cc260828bd01dc14e995375 fa6e3bdba141845dfc

AMD 4600+ X2, $243.

Perkam

[Celcius]

Even though I'm an AMD fan, I would have to say Conroe.
If your math program is anything like superpi, the conroe will own.

If you do decide to get an AMD, I'd recommend one with 1MBx2 L2 cache, such as the X2 4400+.

[ReD.SkY]

Even though I'm an AMD fan, I would have to say Conroe.
If your math program is anything like superpi, the conroe will own.

If you do decide to get an AMD, I'd recommend one with 1MBx2 L2 cache, such as the X2 4400+.

same here, and i fully agree.

Conroe just beats everyhting at superpi lol

[Shady]

well have you already got a motherboard and ram?
I hope that helps although if you fill us in a bit on what you already have then we could probally help more
I'm building a new system.
(I assume your in america)
No I'm in Egypt.
A preference to AMD or Intel always helps.

Eddieate has offered the Intel choice, the AMD choice is a tad easier: http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=A64...3bdba141845dfc

AMD 4600+ X2, $243.
why should i get 4600+ ?
and IF I'm gonna go AMD i think I'm goin socket 939.
If your math program is anything like superpi, the conroe will own.

I'm using a program called BladeGen v4.1 it's pretty old.
I'm thinking if it's gonna take advantage of any of the newer CPU
i doubt that.

[couppi]

I'm pretty sure the C2D is lightyears ahead of the AMD in integer performace... C2D is the only way for cpu-intensive math.

[Shady]

which C2D will give the best Price\Performance Ratio ?

[Judaeus Apella]

If you're a gamer, I always see AMD suggested. If you work with a lot of processor hungry multimedia/design/business related things, then I always hear Intel suggested. Of course, then there's how much ya got to spend. :)

A lot of the AMD's have dropped in price so they are pretty affordable right now. The 4000+ San Diego I payed almost $600 a year and a half ago is only $135 now... which I'm not happy about, but its good for other's trying to save money and build a nice gaming rig at the same time. It's still a good processor and can performs well enough with every new game I've thrown at it.

Then there's the conroe which everyone is talking about, and will be hard to beat for a while... if you have the cash for it.

So I guess it depends on whats important to you, and the way you live. Don't ask people to suggest a processor for you, cause it'll just turn into a big argument. Intel and AMD fan boys live for threads like this. Personally I think this thread should be locked.

And don't forget to cool it. Settle for nothing less than copper. For a small price increase, it works better than aluminum, and its better for the environment. (Acres of rainforests are destroyed for small amounts of aluminum, which is why its also important to recycle.) A cool CPU is a happy CPU. :)

[Shady]

Judaeus Apella
did you even read the first post before you post this ?

[alexio]

Do you plan to overclock the CPU? And if so, only moderate or extreme?

[Judaeus Apella]

LOL, no... and thats a first. Guess Im more tired than I thought. Im goin to bed. Gnight everybody. :yawn2:

(Use a conroe or a nice dual core amd for that)

[Shady]

Do you plan to overclock the CPU? And if so, only moderate or extreme?
moderate overclocking

[alexio]

moderate overclocking
Okay, i'd get an E6400 then and oc it to 8*300-350 on a good overclocking board. The closer you get to 400mhz the more tweaking you will need to make absolutely sure that the system is 100% stable (which is important when you do big calculation).

The E6600 is not really worth it unless you are a bencher and you oc to the extreme.

[Shady]

Okay, i'd get an E6400 then and oc it to 8*300-350 on a good overclocking board. The closer you get to 400mhz the more tweaking you will need to make absolutely sure that the system is 100% stable (which is important when you do big calculation).

The E6600 is not really worth it unless you are a bencher and you oc to the extreme.
That's good to know
but which board would you suggest and also someone said that i should get the E6300 and i can overclock it to reach the 6400 and more.
what do you think about this
and for the record most of the time i'm not gonna be overclocking

it takes almost 1 hour to solve an equation on an Athlon XP
i need to minimize the time

[Shady]

i need an answer today guys please

[couppi]

E6400+Gigabyte DS3+ someone else can suggest the ram...

[iboomalot]

corsair 6400 C4 not C3

C3 = big $$$$


for budget ram I can't suggest

[Shady]

for the Ram i'm gonna get Kingstone value ram
that's the only think available for now !
i was told to get athlon 64 according to this benchmark
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/07/14/core2_duo_knocks_out_athlon_64/page16.html
check the int and float
however these are memory tests and i guess the reason AMD is got higher score is that it's memory controller is on chip but intel is on the north bridge (correct me if i'm wrong)
so what do you guys think ?

should this be a good reason to go AMD ... ? if not why intel ?

[perkam]

Go with the side you like best.

Or get the cheaper option...cos the decision to buy kington value ram is a bad one.

Perkam

[Shady]

Go with the side you like best.

Or get the cheaper option...cos the decision to buy kington value ram is a bad one.

Perkam
is it that bad ?

[perkam]

is it that bad ?Yes. Skimp on the cpu if you have to...don't skimp on the ram...a good set of ram lasts a very long time.

Perkam

[Shady]

Yes. Skimp on the cpu if you have to...don't skimp on the ram...a good set of ram lasts a very long time.

Perkam
well they give a life time warranty here on that Kingston value RAM !!!

are you saying that the value ram is bad or Kingston itself is bad ?

[cky2k6]

shady, the test you were looking at in tom's was memory integer performance, in the cpu integer test, c2 demolished the a64. i, like perkam suggested, would get the 6300 and good quality ram.

[Shady]

ok looks like i'm getting the e6300
but i need one more suggestion
i never worked with ddr2 so i need you to suggest something for me ...

[m0da]

get pc2-6400 800mhz ram

anything that can run cl4 @ ~2.0-2.1v should be fine for you.
try not to go with ocz though, there are some compatibility issues with them.

also, i'd suggest the Asus P5B/Deluxe Mobo.