ASUS P5B-Deluxe; Problems & Fixes

[m0nikr]

It seems that a thread similar to the P5W-DH one is needed for us P5B-D owners. There are many threads littered in this subforum and many replies to threads in the Overclocking subforum which contain a ton of information on problems and possible resolutions for various uses of the P5B-D, mainly overclocking. I think it would prove useful for many people to have this information consolidated and verified so that users may better troubleshoot issues they are having.

This thread might start a little small, as I don't have a ton of time right now to add to it, but I will try and get the ball rolling. I'll try and keep it up to date with good information. To help contribute to this thread, please reply with an an issue your are having. If you have any contributions to make with support and fixes, it would be greatly appreciated. If you are going to make a reply, please do so in an organized fashion. For example, please post your system specifications and configuration in your post, to minimize confusion and misinformation. You should include:


Processor:
Bios Revision:
Memory:
Configured Voltages: vCore, vFSB, vNB, etc.
Configured FSB:
Configured Ratio:
Configured Memory Timings:
Any other applicable configuration modifications:


I will lead with an example as the first reply, as I am also currently experiencing an issue, but for now, read on. I hope my post count doesn't scare anyone away.


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Bios Revisions:

The currently listed bios revision on the Asus support website is 0614. This version, and other releases may be found via FTP @ ftp://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/. Beta bios revisions are also available if you know where to find them.

-- Bios Revision Functionality

Any bios revision after 0502 (I believe) had Multiplier Downscaling available in the CPU Configuration section of the bios.

Currently, it appears that the bios revision 0507 has divider issues with certain memory. As well, bios revision 0502, though apparently free of the divider issue, has memory timing problems with certain modules.

Overclocking

Generally, from what I can decipher (which may not be correct), is that most of Allendales and Conroes are fully capable of an FSB between 350 and 400. It would seem to me that more often that not, barring any other complications, these processory are capable of that mark. As well, it has appeared that mostly, that FSB point can be reached with modest increases in core voltage and modest aftermarket air cooling. That said, most of the problems are coming from various motherboard and/or memory related instabilities and misconfiguration.

-- Bios Settings Screenshots ADDED: 09/15/06

Check out this thread (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=115217) for a good start on what you should have your bios settings set to for starting your overclocking.

-- Complete Failure to go Past 280-300 FSB using 0507

Please remember that in 0507, there appears to be a divider issue with certain memory. Check and make sure that your are not currently running your memory with a divider, and if your are, try it without. If you must use a divider, downgrade your bios to 0502.

-- Multiplier Fluctuation

This is a commonly overlooked detail by those jumping in to the P5B-D. By default, The P5B-D bios revisions enable settings in the CPU Configuration of your bios that dynamically adjust the multiplier of your processory to conserve heat and energy. You can disable it by disabling the C1E and SpeedStepping options.

General Performance

-- "Chassis Intruded!" Message; CMOS-Clear and Chassis Intrusion Jumpers ADDED: 08/24/06

If you are getting a "Chassis Intruded!" message upon trying to boot, you will be unable to do anything whatsoever. As reported, to fix this, you must clear CMOS via an on-board jumper. Refer to your manual and locate the jumper, and be very careful, as the Chassis Intrusion jumper is right next to it. -- [Credit: anarinsk]

-- Double-restarts, Power fluctuations, Fake-restarts, etc. ADDED: 08/24/06

Many users are experiencing a supposed problem in which cold booting or rebooting the system will trigger an immediate reboot after the initial one occurs. It is not known whether or not this is something that is user-generated or not, though some users have reported it occuring at stock, right out of the box. It is also not know whether this could be detrimental in any way to the user's system.

-- Default vDimm and Higher Rated Memory Voltages ADDED: 08/24/06

By default, all bios revisions (I believe) will have the memory voltage at 1.8v. This may cause an issue with some memory that is rated for 2.0v-2.1v or higher. Some users have experienced success using 2.0v or 2.1v modules at stock and then changing the vDimm on the bois, while others have not. Generally, the best way to combat this problem is to find a stick of memory that's rated at 1.8v-1.9v and boot with it. Once that's accomplished you can alter the vDimm in the bios to a bootable level for your other memory.

-- Wifi-AP Functionality and WXP 64-bit ADDED: 08/22/06

If you are experiencing wireless connection issues using Windows XP 64-bit (and quite possibly 32-bit) and the P5B-D Wifi-AP Card/Antenna, try downloading the driver from the Asus Support Website. Download the same exact driver as is on the CD, the only difference is, the driver is unsigned, and Windows will need confirmation before continuin the install an unsigned driver. -- [Credit: dissident]

-- PLL for ClockGen ADDED: 09/15/06

Firstly, you'll need the beta version of ClockGen (http://www.cpuid.org/beta/ClockGen.zip) that adds support for the P5B-D. In the PLL setup section, choose CY28551 (it shouldn't automatically detect it).

Modifications

-- vDimm, vMCH, and vDroop

The third post from the top in http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=110121&page=5 illustrates the mods pretty well. I couldn't locate a post detailing the process, but I'll update this section with it if I can find a guide for it.

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09/15/06 Edit: Sorry for the absence to this thread, I've been busy lately with school. I'll try and keep checking it and adding helpful things.

[m0nikr]

Processor: e6400, Allendale
Bios Revision: 0507
Memory: Corsair XMS2 PC2-6400, 2x1GB, Rated @ 5-5-5-12; TWIN2X2048-6400
vCore: 1.250
vFSB: 1.300
vNB: 1.250
vMem: 2.000
Configured FSB: 400
Configured Ratio: 7
Configured Memory Timings: 5-5-5-12
C1E and SpeedStep off, Locked PCI Express Frequency locked at 100, PCI Sync Mode at 33.33.


Firstly, since I'm using 0507, I was unable to boot in to Windows past 290 FSB using a divider. From 290 FSB though, I went straight to 400 FSB running 1:1 and it booted in to windows fine. Using Core Temp, my temperatures read at idle ~42C. Under dual prime load, ~51C. Dual prime immediately errors out using any memory tests, but I using small ffts, I was able to achieve a 4 hour stable run. I'm not quite sure if I should up the memory voltage a little more, as the Corsair sticks are rated for the configured speed at 1.9V. When I get off work I'm going to try to move the multiplier to 8 and see what vCore is required to remain stable.

http://enumerated.net/6400@7x400-0822-small.jpg (http://enumerated.net/6400@7x400-0822.jpg)

[Mr.Bones]

Sticky please........:idea:

[mine]

oh ...yes

good job:clap:

[dissident]

if you are using the built in wifi-ap and are also using windows xp 64 bit, and find that the internet connection keeps cutting out and you have to "repair" it to get it to work, try downloading the same driver that is on the Asus CD only the unsigned version from asus website. This will fix the problem. I don't know if this problem exists with the 32 bit version.

To actually install this driver you have to tell windows you will specify which driver to install.


The built in wifi-ap and the antenna bring in much better reception then my addon card ever did... nice setup it is.

[GAR]

So far im stable at 3ghz 334x9 with my ram at ddr1000, im using the g.skill 2gb hz.....vcore is at 1.350 but 1.3 in windows, also the fsb nbvcore is set to auto, i cant seem to post anything at 400 fsb, seems like over 350 im having problems......i raised the cpu volt all the way to 1.5 still no post, tried 400x6 no post, tried raising the nb vcore to 1.45 nothing, fsb was raised nothing, pci x is at 100 and pci is at 33.......spread spectrum is disabled, any ideas, im using the 0507 bios.

[mkorpal333]

Thanks for making this thread. One thing, the official bios from asus's website is 0507, not 0405. I hope this link works correctly.
http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us

I'm also hearing that this board (along with most 965 boards) is having trouble running micron D9 memory. Can anyone comment on that. I've seen many people who have it working but than someone will say they do not work.

[JayG30]

Thanks for making this thread. One thing, the official bios from asus's website is 0507, not 0405. I hope this link works correctly.
http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us

I'm also hearing that this board (along with most 965 boards) is having trouble running micron D9 memory. Can anyone comment on that. I've seen many people who have it working but than someone will say they do not work.

Actually on the ASUS site the latest official listed BIOS is 0405. I think they took the other one down or something.

[lawrywild]

Actually on the ASUS site the latest official listed BIOS is 0405. I think they took the other one down or something.

it's the asus servers screwing up.

they never took it down, just they often do this. 0507 should still be on FTP

[JayG30]

it's the asus servers screwing up.

they never took it down, just they often do this. 0507 should still be on FTP

Ah makes sense. Just the site listed will not direct you to the 0507 BIOS.

Curious, since my board will be here tomorrow, is the 0507 considered a better BIOS for most? I'm getting everything ready to flash. I got to get a lot done tomorrow. Basically get the system from parts to a finished computer ready to go out on Thursday.

[geof]

So far im stable at 3ghz 334x9 with my ram at ddr1000, im using the g.skill 2gb hz.....vcore is at 1.350 but 1.3 in windows, also the fsb nbvcore is set to auto, i cant seem to post anything at 400 fsb, seems like over 350 im having problems......i raised the cpu volt all the way to 1.5 still no post, tried 400x6 no post, tried raising the nb vcore to 1.45 nothing, fsb was raised nothing, pci x is at 100 and pci is at 33.......spread spectrum is disabled, any ideas, im using the 0507 bios.
did you try with ram 1:1 ?
maybe a multi pb for the ram ...

[zizo]

Processor: E6400
Bios Revision: 0507
Memory: G.Skill 6400hz
Configured Voltages: 1.425v vCore, 1.3v vFSB, 1.25v vNB
Configured FSB:492
Configured Ratio: 1:1
Configured Memory Timings: 4-4-3-8
7X multiplier



http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=114435

[aggybong]

Zizo you never posted what you changed to get so high with the 507 bios :(

[zizo]

Zizo you never posted what you changed to get so high with the 507 bios :(

I just did! :)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1671869&postcount=70

[GAR]

you kno what, i think the g.skill ram has an issue with other dividers, 1.1 worked much better and was more stable, my sandra bandwidth with 500mhz was 6900, with 400mhz 1:1 dividers my bandwidth now is 7300, anyone else get this, problem with this setup........i got my system to prime at 3.6ghz 400x9 the reason it wasnt posting was because of the ram dividers, so anyone with g.skill hz 2gb set and this board should stick to 1:1 dividers, ill report any other issues or problems i run into. so far my system is running like this

3.6ghz @ 1.500v in bios, 1.42 in windows
400x9 mem 1:1 divider....ddr800 @ 4-4-4-6-2-20-10-10-10-10-faster
mem 2.3v
cpu 1.5000
fsb 1.300
nbvcore 1.250
auto
auto

[aggybong]

Guys, I might have these P5B-D problems figured out. It's really damn strange, but it appears to work for me.
Simply, with the 507 BIOS:
8x375 will not work. 7x375 will not work. No matter what settings I use, I simply cannot boot, or if I do, Windows will blue screen while loading.
7x458 DOES work! I'm in Windows and I've been running Prime95 for 35 minutes now. I've even verified this by using the exact same settings I do with 7x458 but instead dropping to 7x375, which resulted in a blue screen while loading Windows. Could this have something to do with automatic strap adjustment when going over a certain FSB?

My advice would be to bypass the 300 range FSBs and even the early 400s (so far the lowest I've tested is 7x425) and see if that helps, because it did for me.

[rycky]

Hello,

I wonder if someone as the same pb when multiplier is different from 9. (defaut on E6600) In that case if I reboot the computer from Windows or exit the bios with saving change, my computer stop, 2s later power on led and stop instantaneously and 2s later boot without any pb. (my OC is really effective and no msg from the bios about a possible trouble)
Another thing strange: with 4 sticks of 1go bios detect me only 2.93go, windows XP (32 or 64 bits) too. CPUZ see 4096mo with 4 sticks :confused:

Processor: E6600
Bios Revision: 0507
Memory: 4 x 1go Gskill 6400HZ
Configured Voltages: vCore 1,325, vNB 1,45 vDimm 2,0v
Configured FSB: 400
Configured multiplier: 8
Configured Ratio: 1:1
Configured Memory Timings: 4/4/4/12/4/30
Any other applicable configuration modifications: Lan2/Audio/Serial/FDD disable. Wifi card dismounted in order to use 2 more USB

[adfinni]

This thread for sticky :D

I have x2 rigs on their way now with:

P6B-D's
E6300's
Tuniq Tower's
Team Xtreem 2gig kits

Il post here when my rigs are upped and problems are encountered.

[herderien]

@ gar

i could post 400fsb by raising both nb en fsb termination by one

[anarinsk]

Nice job. go sticky! :banana: :banana: :banana:

[Chri$ch]

i have only problems with 4:5 divider (wont boot over 480Mhz ram!), but 2:3 & 3:5
work without problems (boot with 615Mhz ram!).

Processor: E6300
Bios Revision: 0507
Memory: G.Skill 6400HZ
Configured Voltages: 1.45v vCore, 1.40v vFSB, 1.25v vNB, 1.70v vSB
Configured FSB:486
Configured Ratio: 1:1
Configured Memory Timings: 4-4-4-8

[Levish]

Processor: E6400
Bios Revision: 0507
Memory: Corsair XMS PC8500
Configured Voltages: 1.35v vCore, Auto vFSB, Auto vNB, Auto vSB
Configured FSB:365x8
Configured Ratio: 2:3
Configured Memory Timings: auto

When I get my wcing setup i'll push further =P

At the moment the processor is quite toasty idling around 50c

[sparks]

Nasgul do you have screens of your bios settings I would love to see them
GAR what temps is that system putting out with no load?

thanks

sparks

[Reite]

Processor:
Processor: E6600
Bios Revision: 0502
Memory: GEIL DDR2 6400, 4-4-4-12
Configured Voltages: vCore: 1.35 , vDimm 2.1, Rest Auto
Configured FSB: 350
Configured Ratio: 1:1
Configured Memory Timings: By SPD = 4-4-4-12

My board is primestable at 350fsb, but it fails prime at 360( rounding errors ) and it wont boot at 370. I have no idea what to do to get it higher tbh.

With 0507 bios and the exact same settings as i use now i fail prime at 350fsb:\

[Reite]

Ok i know this probably is a stupid question, but what is "vMch" and how do i change it on p5d deluxe?

[GAR]

Nasgul do you have screens of your bios settings I would love to see them
GAR what temps is that system putting out with no load?

thanks

sparks

I took the scythe out and put back my Big Typhoon, even tho mounting is a pain in the A$$....scythe mine honestly isnt for overclocking......

at 3.6ghz 1.46volts
idle = 38c
load = 59-61c
ambient is about 80f its the summer, im sure itl run cooler in the winter, when i AC my room to 70F runs much cooler about 3-4c cooler.

[kiwi]

Try Scythe Infinity, kicks BT hard (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111897) :)

[JayG30]

Try Scythe Infinity, kicks BT hard (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111897) :)

How bout BT vs. Ninja? whats the final verdict on that. The Ninja is being sold at good prices right now with fan and other accesories. It's actualyl better priced then the BT.

[Rol-Co]

new asus p5b

complete unmodded with stock chipset cooler / paste .......right out of the box

6600 es
http://rol-co.nl/images/517kl.png (http://rol-co.nl/images/517.png)

6300 retail
http://rol-co.nl/images/duo32mpivolkl.png (http://rol-co.nl/images/duo32mpivol.png)

problem:

retail can't 496fsb and above 1m, 487fsb rock stable (screen)


p5b deluxe wifi-ap
intel E6600es + e6300 retail
corsair xms 6400 c5@4-4-4-8 2,35v
wd raptor
scythe ninja cooler

[GAR]

I already moutned the BT, i dont wanna remove my board to change the cooler again, its doing me fine at 3.6 so im just gonna be happy with it.......i have a 2700rpm TT fan so its not bad.

[GAR]

So far this is what i have. preety happy with the results.

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/7169/superpitf5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Pjoeloe]

new asus p5b
retail can't 496fsb and above 1m, 487fsb rock stable (screen)
p5b deluxe wifi-ap
intel E6600es + e6300 retail
corsair xms 6400 c5@4-4-4-8 2,35v
wd raptor
scythe ninja cooler
Nice :) , what are your results with the multi @ 9 ? Eva has emailed asus for more mem settings in the bios ( for the non deluxe ), maybe he can do the same for the deluxe? Question, where and how did you get your ES 6600 ? :cool:

[day187]

I can not use the divider every time i reboot from the bios no go, memory in sig.

My results
450x8 24/7 (http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=everydayzm3.jpg)

Max so far 475x8 (http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=475fsbfz2.png)

500FSB (http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=500fsbnm2.jpg)

[GAR]

anyone getting this.........while restarting it restarts twice.....starts up and shuts right off, 2 seconds later it starts again? everything startsup fine but it just does this....anyone else?

[aggybong]

Yea, false starts seem common with the P5B-D. I *think* it's the same for all P965 boards, but I'm not sure. I think I remember people with DS3s asking about it.

[boostedevo]

^^ That happens to me too. IIRC, it starts happening around 400FSB (maybe 425?).

Just got my P5B Dlx yesterday. Board is 100% stock for this first screenie, only thing I did was update the BIOS from 204->507 and drop a fan over the mem/NB (NB still had the "cover" on it). Mem is on AUTO, obviously ;)

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/boostedevo/p5bdlx/550fsb.png

Changed out the stock NB sink today for an HR-05 + AS5 still no volt mods or anything on the board:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/boostedevo/p5bdlx/559fsb.png

I need to fix the undervolt and droop and will then see about 4.2GHz+, but this is the max bootable from BIOS on this board so far (proc is on water) :cool:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/boostedevo/p5bdlx/4160_520fsb.png

[aggybong]

Damn, nice speeds. The false start happens to me even at stock, so I think it's a 'feature' :(

Just noticed it's an ES. Boo :P

[boostedevo]

Thanks, I was honestly very surprised at the FSB it reached pretty easily. I am sure the double boot thing didn't start on mine until I was up in the FSB...maybe it has something to do with a BIOS setting as for when it happens? It's definitely seems like something "built into" the board or BIOS though, probably like the hard reboots the ASUS 955/975 boards have over ~240FSB on the P4s :fact:


Just noticed it's an ES. Boo :PLOL, yeah, all of a sudden they're like that black sheep family member no one likes to talk about :(

[kiwi]

Because ES are pretty hard to get now and they fly + 965 unlike retail 4MB :slapass:

[bugeyes]

Ok i know this probably is a stupid question, but what is "vMch" and how do i change it on p5d deluxe?


Thats under NB voltage, have you tried using a lower multipliere with the higher FSB speeds? most probably not the mobo but poor clocking CPU.

[mkorpal333]

^^ That happens to me too. IIRC, it starts happening around 400FSB (maybe 425?).

Just got my P5B Dlx yesterday. Board is 100% stock for this first screenie, only thing I did was update the BIOS from 204->507 and drop a fan over the mem/NB (NB still had the "cover" on it). Mem is on AUTO, obviously ;)

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/boostedevo/p5bdlx/550fsb.png

Changed out the stock NB sink today for an HR-05 + AS5 still no volt mods or anything on the board:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/boostedevo/p5bdlx/559fsb.png

I need to fix the undervolt and droop and will then see about 4.2GHz+, but this is the max bootable from BIOS on this board so far (proc is on water) :cool:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/boostedevo/p5bdlx/4160_520fsb.png


Quick question, how did you deal with the heat pipe on the NB sink. Where did you cut it off?

[Nasgul]

anyone getting this.........while restarting it restarts twice.....starts up and shuts right off, 2 seconds later it starts again? everything startsup fine but it just does this....anyone else?

Me too and that's one heck of annoying crap. But I've learned to live with it.

I also don't like that for any change that I make in the AIBooster the system has to reboot, unlike in the P5WD2-P's AIBooster where you could increase the OC and would take it little by little..........though it got to a point where you needed to reboot but still, it allow for a few more fsb settings before the reboot process. Not cool IMO.

[boostedevo]

Quick question, how did you deal with the heat pipe on the NB sink. Where did you cut it off?I didn't cut anything, just removed the whole thing from the NB and the MOSFETs and put the new sink on the NB...MOSFETs are bare right now.


I also don't like that for any change that I make in the AIBooster the system has to reboot, unlike in the P5WD2-P's AIBooster where you could increase the OC and would take it little by little..........though it got to a point where you needed to reboot but still, it allow for a few more fsb settings before the reboot process. Not cool IMO.The AIB on my P5W DH was the same way...I think this "has to reboot" for any change is specific to the ASUS Conroe-ready boards regardless of chipset or AIB software. I haven't messed with the OC profiles in the BIOS...does it load those AFTER the desktop loads? If so, it might be an option for some extra clocks. I can't wait til there's a SetFSB or Clockgen for these!!

[Pjoeloe]

Because ES are pretty hard to get now and they fly + 965 unlike retail 4MB :slapass:
not true. Mine is almost @ 4ghz and got wings also... ;)

[JayG30]

Guys I need some help here. Got my P5B deluxe WiFi board today. Hooked everything up and go to start it up...I get nothing. Nothing on the screen, No POST, No beeps,...nothing.

Retail E6400 w/stock HS, PQI DDR2 800 (PC6400), GeForce 7900GT, 250GB WD SATA 3.0Gb/s HD, Hyper 580watt PSU, and of course the Asus P5B Deluxe.

I'm pretty pissed right now. I looked through the manual and it says that if there are no beeps and no POST then to check connections, jumpers, and if still nothing contact seller. I took the drives off to reduce any chance of bad connections. So all I had was the SATA drive connected to the SATA 1 connection on the Mobo. I checked the GPU and the RAM and both are seated exactly as they should be. Still not POSTing.

I don't know if anyone has had this problem on this board and has any insight. My first guess right now is the board is DOA. What do you think? Mobo problem for sure? Time to send it back?


UPDATE: After reading a newegg review on my RAM (except 2x512MB instead of 1GB stick) I see someone else could not get there's to work in the P5B deluxe. Sounds like he used a spare set of RAM to boot and then flash BIOS so it would support his RAM. Maybe this is due to the high Voltage of the RAM (2.0V stock). Here is the link to where you can see the review...http://www.newegg.com/Product/CustratingReview.asp?item=N82E16820141064. Does this seem like a feasable reason why I would be getting NOTHING...not even a POST?

[aggybong]

Sounds about right. Have you tried with one stick in? Mine wouldn't boot with two, but one of them would let me get into the bios to change the vdimm.

Edit: you only have 1x1gb? You might be hosed :(

[JayG30]

Sounds about right. Have you tried with one stick in? Mine wouldn't boot with two, but one of them would let me get into the bios to change the vdimm.

Edit: you only have 1x1gb? You might be hosed :(


LOL yep. What kind of RAM do you have and what is it's voltage. I might get up tomorrow and see if I can track some cheap DDR2 with correct voltage to see if that works. If not then the board goes back. I really hope it is just the ram. Hopefully also this place my family goes locally to get stuff will let me borrow a stick to see if ti works so I don't have to buy it. :p:

Alternatively do you think that askng for a new updated BIOS chip would fix the problem? That would probably be my last alternative but would be nice to know.

[aggybong]

The P5B-Deluxe doesn't have a BIOS chip :( You can't replace it like you can with the P5W-DH.

I have OCZ 6400 Platinum ram which 'requires' 2.1v.

[Nasgul]

I used my Corsair XMS2's which are rated at 2.1v and it booted fine, sure I got an CPU error but that's becaues of the 0204 BIOS and use my 256MB flash drive to update the BIOS and everything worked.

Do you see the blue ASUS logo light up inside? If so, try checking the power switch plug, the one connected at the bottom right hand side. The Reset and Power pins are so close to each other that I didn't plug the Power correctly which caused my system not to boot but the LED light was on.......so check that up. should be: .._.. / Space in between the Reset and Power pins.

[JayG30]

The P5B-Deluxe doesn't have a BIOS chip :( You can't replace it like you can with the P5W-DH.

I have OCZ 6400 Platinum ram which 'requires' 2.1v.


LOL you know as I submitted that I realized it didn't have a BIOS chip. It's been one long night. :) That sucks though...I like that feature.

Hum ok I'm thinking more and more that it's the RAM. Does anyone know more about this? Like was it changed in a newer BIOS and that my "no POST" is a symptom of this? Looking for as much feedback as possible so I can troubleshoot this as fast as possible.

Thanks aggybong! :toast:

[JayG30]

I used my Corsair XMS2's which are rated at 2.1v and it booted fine, sure I got an CPU error but that's becaues of the 0204 BIOS and use my 256MB flash drive to update the BIOS and everything worked.

Do you see the blue ASUS logo light up inside? If so, try checking the power switch plug, the one connected at the bottom right hand side. The Reset and Power pins are so close to each other that I didn't plug the Power correctly which caused my system not to boot but the LED light was on.......so check that up. should be: .._.. / Space in between the Reset and Power pins.


Will go check that now. I took my time on that and even used that little removable piece they give you. Yes the Asus logo lights up blue and then red when turned on. Once turned on I can hear the harddrive is on, the fans kick in, power is getting to everything...just no POST and no screen of any kind.


EDIT: Checked and everything is fine with that. The connections are where they should be. I even took them off that white removable piece and connected them straight to the motherboard and still made no difference.

My biggest wonder right now is why wouldn't I be getting beeps if it was a RAM issue? Does it not beep when the RAM is there but not compadible? I took the RAM out and booted and immediately got beeps to signify a RAM issue. I would have expected it to do the same if the RAM was to high of a voltage but maybe not. If all it is doing is sensing it the RAM is there and inserted properly then it makes sense, but I'm not sure.

[aggybong]

Yea, I'm 99% sure it's the memory that's causing that. I *think* the new BIOS (0507) fixes it. It's been a problem on the Gigabyte boards as well.

[JayG30]

Yea, I'm 99% sure it's the memory that's causing that. I *think* the new BIOS (0507) fixes it. It's been a problem on the Gigabyte boards as well.

Yea I knew about the Gigabyte boards...that was one of the reasons I went with this one! :rolleyes:

I just can't seem to win.

[tuoho]

Anyone have got blue screen of death when installing 32-bit windows? What says that unable to install windows because it would harm computer. Micron Controller has set to IDE ofc. So this is settled with bios update? I have bios version 0302.

[Andypro1]

Just put your stick in the freezer for a few minutes. Then pop it in and boot. Change vdimm in the bios and you're off.

[Levish]

Processor: E6400
Bios Revision: 0507
Memory: Corsair XMS PC8500
Configured Voltages: 1.35v vCore, Auto vFSB, Auto vNB, Auto vSB
Configured FSB:365x8
Configured Ratio: 2:3
Configured Memory Timings: auto

When I get my wcing setup i'll push further =P

At the moment the processor is quite toasty idling around 50c

just a little update I switched back to 0507 bios and changed memory to 1:1 as was suggested and happily clocked up to 400fsb (and in all likelyhood beyond) where 370+ I had problems before.

right around 400fsb my x1900xt is not happy but I can clearly see the system booting due to my peripherals (my programmable keyboard for one thing).

I unplugged the psu and let the power drain then plugged it back in and hit the powre and managed to get the x1900xt working. On reboot it didn't work again.

PCI-e was set to 100

[-n7-]

Just put your stick in the freezer for a few minutes. Then pop it in and boot. Change vdimm in the bios and you're off.

No wai...

You are serious?

[JayG30]

Just put your stick in the freezer for a few minutes. Then pop it in and boot. Change vdimm in the bios and you're off.

I've heard this before but it doesn't always work from what I hear. Plus I think you got to be careful how long you leave it in there. When you take it out you can feel the condensation on the RAM...I'm sure my motherboard (if not already dead) will love that.

[sparks]

couple of questions if I may.

Just got a retail E6600 and running 502 bios. At all stock settings with fsb
running 1:1 i can get to 350fsb run 2 prime loops for an hr and all seems fine.
After that not even 351 will get into windows and reboot as soon as I see the windows splash screen.
So I think maybe just a little more vcore...1.35 no, 1.375 no, 1.4 no
ok that is not it, memory 1.9, 2.0, 2.1 nope

what is now holding me back from getting any more out of this thing. since it will do 350fsb stable is 351 toooo much to ask LOL

I have read on here about vdroop...how accurate is the asus probe in windows on voltage? stock I see 1.28...1.4 I see 1.3 is it really that bad?

thanks for any help and or ideas I just ain't smart enough to make any since of this.

sparks

[sluzbenik]

Lots of people report problems at 350-399. Try going straight to 400 if you dare.

I have been able to get into Windows at 350 on the 507 bios without a problem myself. However stability is another matter...

[herderien]

i could do 400 just by raising NB and end fsb into "purple" (1 step) and get to windows... but large FFT were not stable, so i'm waiting for a bios that is doing ok with both ram and max multi choosing ^^


ps : dunno why but i think weird fsb, not multiple of 16,33 seems to be bad for well dunno why ^^

[anarinsk]

Warning on CMOS clear.

My first P5BD was totally out of order. It said, "Chassis intruded!" Actually, Chassis detection jumper was in right position. With this message, you cannot enter BIOS screen, and have nothing to do. I could not but change my MB.

Today, I saw this message again on the newly arrived MB in testing my rig. But, after CMOS clear, fortunately, it returned the normal state.

1. Do not mistake two jumpers.(they are really close)
2. Do CMOS clearing when power is totally out.

CMOS clear and Chassis open detection jumper are really near. I think some one would experience the same problem as mine.

[tuoho]

Just put your stick in the freezer for a few minutes. Then pop it in and boot. Change vdimm in the bios and you're off.

So there isnt any other solution? When i sent email to Asus they said, that
2GNR would work with Asus P5b Deluxe good.

[tuoho]

So there's any other way to fix issue with black screen of death?

[m0nikr]

I added a few new entries. Keep them coming.

As well, I have an update on my system:

Processor: e6400, Allendale
Bios Revision: 0507
Memory: Patriot 2x1GB, 4-4-4-12 rated; PDC22G6400LLK
vCore: 1.385
vFSB: 1.300
vNB: 1.250
vMem: 2.100
Configured FSB: 400
Configured Ratio: 8
Configured Memory Timings: 4-4-4-12
C1E and SpeedStep off, Locked PCI Express Frequency locked at 101, PCI Sync Mode at 33.33.


I swapped memory to a pair of Patriot sticks I was able to grab and had some better results with them. As well, I was able to get fully prime stable (12hr blend and 10hr small ffts) at 1.385v. Using CoreTemp, idle temperatures are around 43C and under load around 53-56C.

I might try and go higher, or lower the multiplier and up the FSB, but that is the absolute minimum vCore for me to get stable at 8x400, and I feel apprehensive about upping my vCore above 1.400v.

[Ace-a-Rue]

hi all..i am the one with the "Fireconn" incident.:)

moved on to the P5B Deluxe (also the P5WDG2 WS Pro)

my specs:
E6400 (week 25)
Thermalright Ultra 120 heat sink w/120x38mm fan
Corsair 2X512Mb of 6400C4 (rated for 2.1v)
Gigabyte 7600GT
Areca 1210 8X PCIe Raid card
Two Seagate 7200.10 drives (320G per)...hooked to the Areca card.
Standard DVD writer (NEC)

Highest attainable FSB: 460, multi: 7 (6 hours of prime)
Vcore: 1.485v
Vdimm: 2.3v
MCH: 1.5v
Memory divider: 1:1
Chipset memory in: SPD

temps are a little high for my liking...i think asus software is interpolating the diode incorrectly...during prime it slowly flutuates between 63-67C

STILL, an excellent board...i am liking the Pro...just in the initial stages of seeing what i can get out of it with an E6700

[JayG30]

I just want to update everyone. If your having the issues I listed earlier it is safe to say it is the RAM. I am extremely happy and thanks for everyone's help.

I went to best buy tonight and grabbed a 1GB stick of generic kingston DDR2 4200 RAM and put it in to see if it worked and it did! :woot:

The RAM is rated at 1.8V so thats the main reason I bought it because I figured that would be the most safe proof RAM to boot on the board. I'm still not conviniced that it's JUST a voltage thing as others with 2.0V RAM can get there system to boot. Either some people are lucky or it is something more then that.

Anyway I'm going to flash the BIOS and see if that solves the problem. If it does not I'll raise the volts after flashing and see if that works. If it still doesn't work then I guess I got a bad stick of RAM. As of right now though I would have to say that the PQI Turbo DDR2 6400 RAM does not work out of the box on this board with the current BIOS being shipped.

Thats not to say the RAM is bad as it seems to have good performance numbers and (at least when I bought it) an unbeatable price.

Best thing about this all is I will be bringing the RAM back to Best Buiy even if it does work as they told me it is returnable with a reciept either way. Awesome! :toast:


Edit: I'd also like to add to this support thread for the P5B deluxe that the cold booting issue or whatever you want to refer to it as is something I am experiencing. The board is COMPLETELY stock. No hard mods or overclocking. It does it almost every time. If anyone is not having this issue I'd love to find a fix for it.

[Theonek]

Hello,
I just wanted to say that the P5B is a very difficult board to play with, but I think it is possible to get 450+ FSB for everyone. I managed it with everything default, memory 1:1 (2.1V) and 507 bios (6400 retail, multiplier 7x). I also had no problems to run at FSB 475 (12 hours dual prime stable)

BUT!! this is a single exact configuration that works after maybe 100 failed attempts and bios flashess - changing memory timings and no post, changing fsb under 410 and no post, also after bios reset I can´t reply this settings all at once, I have to adjust bios several times

My point is this should be possible for everyone, you just have to find the right combination and don´t give up. Sometimes it is a crazy setting, that works.

[sparks]

several people have reported setting Configured Ratio to either 7 or 8.
this is the core speed is it not...so that might be a good test but one of
the things I noticed was someone last week or 2 was setting his down and
sure he hit like 550 fsb and screenies and all that and people were saying
wow.. his pimes and things were slower than a std chip running at 390-400.
So is this just a test of system stability and the wow on fsb and times was
that he could run that fast and NOT that it was something you would want to
do all the time.


PCI Express Frequency some are locked at 101 and others are locking at
100.. I thought 100 was the correct setting.....any comments


sparks

[Ace-a-Rue]

i've run the PCIe all the way up to 120 MHz with a 7600GT and 8X Areca Raid card...worked fine while running 450 FSB

[Supertim0r]

* Processor: E6600 ES
* Bios Revision: 0507
* Memory: Team 2x1GB 667 3-4-4-8
* vCore: 1.5
* vFSB: auto
* vNB: auto
* vMem: 2.1
* Configured FSB: 494
* Configured Ratio: 8
* Configured Memory Timings: 4-4-3-4

http://simon.webideal.ca/Bench/12.87%203.95.JPG

[ScottFern]

I have heard several people reporting that the 0507 bios provides a huge jump in FSB overclocking? Anandtech got up to 512FSB or something?

Hmm, if MSI doesn't get a new bios soon I am jumping ship!

[bing]

I have heard several people reporting that the 0507 bios provides a huge jump in FSB overclocking? Anandtech got up to 512FSB or something?

Hmm, if MSI doesn't get a new bios soon I am jumping ship!

Check this out -> OCForum : P5B Deluxe: 550FSB no mods (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=474392) .. oh yeah, thats on air too.

Edit : He made up to 570 fsb !

[herderien]

0507 allows fsb to go very high because you can set your cpu to lower multi with this one ^^

[Rattle]

nice thread thanks to OP

[JayG30]

Last update on my PQI RAM issue. I updated to BIOS 0507 and slapped in my RAM and it booted without any BIOS modifications. So to anyone wondering the RAM issue was addressed in new BIOS. :toast:


This really needs a sticky. I'm tired of going back 3 pages to find it.

[|SiLA|]

guys what are all the max voltages?
vcore
vdimm
vfsb
vmch

and how much vdroop in idle and full

tia

[andL64]

vcore 1,7V (1,625V real)
vdimm 2,45V
vfsb 1,45V
vmch 1,2V

[|SiLA|]

vcore 1,7V (1,625V real)
vdimm 2,45V
vfsb 1,45V
vmch 1,2V


should be fine with me then

prolly pencil mod it a bit

tnx :)

i hope i can also reach with the deluxe version 500 fsb like what i've done with the vanilla one :D

[andL64]

hope so :D

heres the link to the mods, by hicookie, works great!

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111156&highlight=P5B+deluxe+mods

the vr-mods are the only i ve seen but they are hard in some case, if you dont have pratice.

[dr_sharp]

Why isn't this a sticky yet???

[JoeBar]

That's a good question. ;)

Just got my P5B-Deluxe (in replacement of a P5WDH) and test it with a 6400. Will post tomorrow my results. Only good things to say about this board so far though... :)

[Blacklash]

That's a good question. ;)

Just got my P5B-Deluxe (in replacement of a P5WDH) and test it with a 6400. Will post tomorrow my results. Only good things to say about this board so far though... :)

Odds are high you will be able to do 3.2 GHz on stock volts. With a small bump in vcore you should be able to do 500 x 7 for 3.5 GHz with zero issues. 3.6 GHz and up may require additional volts on the vcore and NB. My mobo will do 500 FSB with default voltage on the NB. With no mods and my ram @ 4-4-4-10 I have a max FSB of 520 on this board.

Enjoy!

[dinos22]

got a RAID problem

i have 5xHDDs intalled

80GB Seagate SATA for OS (two partitions)
>>>> 2x80GB Maxtor SATA (INTENDED for RAID1) <<<<
2x250GB SATA2 for general :banana::banana::banana::banana:


ok so i enabled intel raid and set up the RAID1 mirror went back to bios to make sure it boots from my single drive where the OS is (Not on Raid) DONE >> Restart >> Crashes on that Windows startup with the bars :confused: :confused:

any ideas

[Ace-a-Rue]

set it back to default speed if you haven't done it already and the try it again...if still a problem, switch drives.

did you install the Raid driver in the single drive OS before loading it with an actual raid array?

[dinos22]

i haven't gone to stock speed and i haven't got the Intel Raid driver only the JMicro one

i cannot install intel raid driver in windows........:(

you really think going back to stock or swapping the drives will help.......i'm willing to give it a shot heh :)

[JayG30]

Not trying to talk down or anything (just in an attempt to help) but in all honesty, did you read through the manual? I was skimmiing over it when I first got my board and there is a pretty long and extensive section on setting up your RAID. You might find some answers there. I don't know as I didn't have to set one up but I know most people don't bother to read there manual. Best of luck though.

[dinos22]

Not trying to talk down or anything (just in an attempt to help) but in all honesty, did you read through the manual? I was skimmiing over it when I first got my board and there is a pretty long and extensive section on setting up your RAID. You might find some answers there. I don't know as I didn't have to set one up. Best of luck though.
Yes of course I did

but i didn't think it was necessary to install raid drivers at the beginning.........

[Ace-a-Rue]

i haven't gone to stock speed and i haven't got the Intel Raid driver only the JMicro one

i cannot install intel raid driver in windows........:(

you really think going back to stock or swapping the drives will help.......i'm willing to give it a shot heh :)

i was thinking of eliminating areas that could interfere with a normal install..sometimes overclocking with a raid array can stop you in your tracks...i found out on my P5WDG2 WS pro board that the intel raid controller craps out at anything above 120 MHz in PCIe bus speed.

[JayG30]

but i didn't think it was necessary to install raid drivers at the beginning.........

I think it is necessary and that might be the problem. If I was home I'd give it a shot.

[dinos22]

yeah i know about drivers now lol but would be nice to get it going without needing to reload the who OS

i'll try ace's suggestions

[Brahmzy]

If at all possible, use the Intel Matrix RAID, NOT the JMicron. It is far superior in speed and ease of setup.

[dinos22]

Ace none of your suggestions worked

i also unplugged all drive except that OS drive = NO GO

Brahmzy >> I am using Intel Matrix one as you can only use the other for external drives

[Rattle]

Do you guys think having raid 0 off the intel matrix hinders FSB ?

I noticed yesterday after I flashed 0605 bios I has strange happenings, no matter what FSB it seemed to want to stay at 321, and also multiplier would not change from 9 no matter what I was stuck at 9x321. I flashed back to 0507 and same thing. I cleared cmos flashed 0507 again and cleared cmos and now I can switch multis just fine, and running 428 fsb and priming... wierdness

[JoeBar]

Haven't yet fully finished my oc'ing tests due to hard work. :(
However till now my stable 6400's oc is 3.45ghz (430x8). Will due further testing and post a thread. Really love this board. This is a worthy Asus board. :up:
One question. Are your boards rev 1.03g also?

[dinos22]

Are your boards rev 1.03g also?yeap mine is :fact:

[Ace-a-Rue]

Ace none of your suggestions worked

i also unplugged all drive except that OS drive = NO GO

Brahmzy >> I am using Intel Matrix one as you can only use the other for external drives

are you using the red Intel SATA connectors and do you have the drives set to master if the drive has jumper and pins for that selection?

if you are already doing the above then my suggestion is try different drives to see if you get the same results.

[Supertim0r]

most of the time, when i start/reboot, no keyboard is detected (since i installed the 7950GX2) :(

[Ace-a-Rue]

most of the time, when i start/reboot, no keyboard is detected (since i installed the 7950GX2) :(can you try a different keyboard?

EDIT:...is this a PS2 or USB keyboard?

[sluzbenik]

Hey guys...can you help a n00b with his overclock?

From everything I see I should be able to get my e6400 to 2800 without a problem. But it seems like it's my ram. Orthos can run Small FFTs but crashes on large or blend.

I have Corsair 6400, timings are advertised to be 5-5-5-15 but SPD says 5-6-6-18. So I put them in manually, not 18 as I have seen some using though. Vcore is at 1.375 but I don't think I even need that boost. I just now tried with 400x7 to avoid the problematic 350-400 range. No joy! WTF is stock vcore supposed to be anyway?

With my new Arctic 7 I stay a nice cool 55 at load with this clock...

[Ace-a-Rue]

don't go on what others say works for them..every cpu, mobo and memory are different in performance...if you need juice, let it have it....don't be afraid to increase voltage....very short term is not going to hurt you!

[Supertim0r]

can you try a different keyboard?

EDIT:...is this a PS2 or USB keyboard?

trusty old IBM ps2 keyboard

[day187]

got a RAID problem

i have 5xHDDs intalled

80GB Seagate SATA for OS (two partitions)
>>>> 2x80GB Maxtor SATA (INTENDED for RAID1) <<<<
2x250GB SATA2 for general :banana::banana::banana::banana:


ok so i enabled intel raid and set up the RAID1 mirror went back to bios to make sure it boots from my single drive where the OS is (Not on Raid) DONE >> Restart >> Crashes on that Windows startup with the bars :confused: :confused:

any ideas

Hi dinos22
I have the exact same problem, I have 1x raptor with my OS and 2x250Gb RAID1 Hitachi Deskstar set up raid1 and restart to boot into windows and crashes on the window scroll bar screen :rolleyes:
Like yourself disabling raid boot into window try to install the Intel driver and it want let me either,

Did you get it sorted or did you reinstall the OS?

Thanaks
Day187
H[/I]

[dinos22]

Hi dinos22
I have the exact same problem, I have 1x raptor with my OS and 2x250Gb RAID1 Hitachi Deskstar set up raid1 and restart to boot into windows and crashes on the window scroll bar screen :rolleyes:
Like yourself disabling raid boot into window try to install the Intel driver and it want let me either,

Did you get it sorted or did you reinstall the OS?

Thanaks
Day187
H[/I]damn man

so did you install those raid drivers in the initial F6 install? >>>> cause i didn't

i've tried absolutely every suggestion and nothing helped :( i guess i'll reinstall but would be good if you can answer my question

[dr_sharp]

This is an issue not really related to overclocking but I used my WD 74GB Raptor as my boot drive. When I put the windows install disk in, i began a full format. At the end of the format it gave an error somewhere along the lines of: "Format failed, SCSI drive not properly terminated." There were no termination jumpers on the board nor hdd so I swapped sata cables and tried again and all is well now. I had an old sata cable that worked fine with my old AXP system but form some reason i had to use the asus sata cables for the drive to be recognized.

[sluzbenik]

Well, mark me up as another one who can't run stable at 320-400.

I tried 400, it failed, but I said, well, let's just try something > 400.

So I booted to 405 on auto settings and just finished 32m Super Pi. the mobo set itself to 1.55v, ouch!

Unfortunately temps are too hot for this overclock. All I want is a working 2700-2800mhz for daily use. Is that too much to ask Asus?

What's really ironic is this is faster than my PIV 2.4c, which I could never get over 3100 successfully.

[dr_sharp]

Well, mark me up as another one who can't run stable at 320-400.

I tried 400, it failed, but I said, well, let's just try something > 400.

So I booted to 405 on auto settings and just finished 32m Super Pi. the mobo set itself to 1.55v, ouch!

Unfortunately temps are too hot for this overclock. All I want is a working 2700-2800mhz for daily use. Is that too much to ask Asus?

What's really ironic is this is faster than my PIV 2.4c, which I could never get over 3100 successfully.

405 x 7 ftw ;)

[Brahmzy]

Well, mark me up as another one who can't run stable at 320-400.

I tried 400, it failed, but I said, well, let's just try something > 400.

So I booted to 405 on auto settings and just finished 32m Super Pi. the mobo set itself to 1.55v, ouch!

Unfortunately temps are too hot for this overclock. All I want is a working 2700-2800mhz for daily use. Is that too much to ask Asus?

What's really ironic is this is faster than my PIV 2.4c, which I could never get over 3100 successfully.

Do you have an E6300/E6400? All of these type of stories I've read have been with the 2mb chips, NOT the 4mb ones.

[Ace-a-Rue]

This is an issue not really related to overclocking but I used my WD 74GB Raptor as my boot drive. When I put the windows install disk in, i began a full format. At the end of the format it gave an error somewhere along the lines of: "Format failed, SCSI drive not properly terminated." There were no termination jumpers on the board nor hdd so I swapped sata cables and tried again and all is well now. I had an old sata cable that worked fine with my old AXP system but form some reason i had to use the asus sata cables for the drive to be recognized.

the cable could have a cracked head and therefore making poor contact with the pins on either end...or...the cable is just breaking down.

[sluzbenik]

Yup, I have an e6400. I'm pretty sure Asus still hasn't fixed the memory issues, as everyone knows anything but 1:1 ratio doesn't work over 300FSB either. Small FFT test with Orthos is fine at FSBs of 320-400. Memtest also ran fine at those speeds.

[Kashath]

The 0609 beta BIOS fix the 4/5 divider issue but once you get over 400 fsb the memory timings change and it ends up limiting memory bandwidth.

edit: I meant 4/5 divider...

[day187]

damn man

so did you install those raid drivers in the initial F6 install? >>>> cause i didn't

i've tried absolutely every suggestion and nothing helped :( i guess i'll reinstall but would be good if you can answer my question


NO mate i'm in the same boat looks like installing windows again and install the driver the F6 way, i thought i could install the driver in windows and add raid1 after but no luck!!!!!!

:rolleyes:

[dr_sharp]

Fellas (and ladies?)

Using the 2:3 divider with fsb in the mid to high 300s ( =DDR1000+) I no longer get the strange "reboot twice" issue. When i restart, it is a "normal" restart.

I think the weird restarts are caused by the 1:1

[edit] and as soon as I posted this, it did the weird restarts again... this happened at 2:3 fsb = 385, ddr1155

[ninjagordy]

lads, i need urgent help.

i sold my badaxe and bought this...now....on the bad axe my e6400 es (step 4 rev b0) biffed out at 3.26 ghz but i cant get it to overclock at all on this board...its got the 0607 bios and will run fine at stock but as soon as i play it goes berserk...wont boot and wont go to bios, there must be something im missing. my ram is generic 1gb x 2 ddr 667 that was running at 1067mhz fsb on the bad axe at 2.2v no problem so im sure its not a speed related issue on the ram.....

can someone point me to a thread with all the settings or give me there settings and i can check them against mines.....

need help urgently..... power supply etc is not an issue and im on water....

cheers

Gordy!:(

[dr_sharp]

anyone else getting bios locks when trying to save vcore voltage changes? I'm having this on 0507.

After hitting F10 and then enter, the bios just freezes. Sometime I can cut the power and boot and everything will be fine (and settings changed) and other times i have to reset cmos.

[Rattle]

my bios locks when I try to do 500fsb although I only tried it 1:1 I know my ram is good for 522 at least.

0609 has given me best results so far I have gotten 3.2 prime stable at 400x8 with 4:5's and 356x9 with 4:5's ram at 445 with 4-4-4-12 timings is faster than 400x8 with 500 ram and 5-4-4-12 timings in 1m at least

[ninjagordy]

i will try 0609 and see what happens...


gordy!

[adamant415]

anyone else getting bios locks when trying to save vcore voltage changes? I'm having this on 0507.

After hitting F10 and then enter, the bios just freezes. Sometime I can cut the power and boot and everything will be fine (and settings changed) and other times i have to reset cmos.

The only time I get a bios freeze while trying to save settings is when I try to save and exit while in the hardware monitor sub menu. It'll make the changes but won't ever reboot so i'll manually have to turn off the computer and turn it back on.

On a side note why isn't this thread a sticky yet. We need some P5B loving.

[ninjagordy]

link for 0609 bios anyone plz?

[Kashath]

0609 BIOS Here : http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/P5B-ASUS-Deluxe-0609.rar

There's a thread discussing them here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=113866

[ninjagordy]

thanks...not happening with that either...im going to fire my e6600 in and see what happens...

will update you in a short while....

:mad:

[ninjagordy]

well.....my setp 6 rev b2 retail e6600 is no different....scraching my head now...need definative settings from someone please....(pics would benice)

help me please...

Gordy!:confused:

[day187]

yes i get the bios locks 7/10 when going over 500fsb :(

[ninjagordy]

AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHH!:mad:

[dinos22]

i reinstalled the OS and now the system boots in raid........it was just driver related


but for some reason the other windows i was going to convert into a benching OS was completely wiped from boot.ini file >>> looks like it doesn't like dual XP boot or something donno :confused:

[sparks]

ninjagordy I feel your pain.
My 6400 went 420fsb 1:1 but high temps.
I lapped the heatsink....it was terrible. Now its 3C cooler
but I can't get anywhere... with it or a 6600

Its like I hit some magic settings and all was perfect.
NOW I can't get anything to work correctly. The 6400 won't go
over 350 and the 6600 runs all stock settings at 333 but won't do
anything over that...not even 334 with any setting.
Just my personal opinion but I think that asus choice of bios sucks
BIG TIME

sparks

[ninjagordy]

hey lads, im going to get some G.Skill HZ today and see if that helps, i will flash it back to 0507 and try that also........ if that doesnt work the boards getting rma'd and i will swap it for another one......

cheers lads.

a very sad Gordy! :(

[ArcTan]

ninjagordy I feel your pain.
My 6400 went 420fsb 1:1 but high temps.
I lapped the heatsink....it was terrible. Now its 3C cooler
but I can't get anywhere... with it or a 6600

Its like I hit some magic settings and all was perfect.
NOW I can't get anything to work correctly. The 6400 won't go
over 350 and the 6600 runs all stock settings at 333 but won't do
anything over that...not even 334 with any setting.
Just my personal opinion but I think that asus choice of bios sucks
BIG TIME

sparksI've got a similar problem and I think it's the memory.
running ocz 4200eb rev2's and I can't get anywhere past 240 large fft's in orthos even though it'll run for hours with small fft's

[sluzbenik]

Are you sure you're at 1:1 RAM ratio?

Just forget about overclocking at all with another divider. It doesn't work at any speed except maybe 10mhz over stock.

[ArcTan]

Are you sure you're at 1:1 RAM ratio?

Just forget about overclocking at all with another divider. It doesn't work at any speed except maybe 10mhz over stock.seems like it's the ram not liking the board. dinos22 had the same problem with board and ram.
Just ordered some G.Skill 6400 HZ's which should hopefully fix it

[ninjagordy]

lads, just home from work...oh ..whats this in my hand....its 2gb G.Skill hz ddr 800.....let the fun commence..(fingers crossed!):p:

[sluzbenik]

I thought the consensus was NO module works with dividers yet. Has anyone gotten 4/5 to work at anything other than stock?

No go with Corsair TwinX 6400 (5-5-5-15).

[dinos22]

0609 bios will work with 4/5 divider

[pcdoc1]

I thought the consensus was NO module works with dividers yet. Has anyone gotten 4/5 to work at anything other than stock?

No go with Corsair TwinX 6400 (5-5-5-15).4:5 works fine....

[dr_sharp]

4:5 works fine....
4:5 does not work with 0507.

2:3 works fine with 0507.

[Brahmzy]

I'm on 0507 and CPU-Z shows 4:5.

[pcdoc1]

4:5 does not work with 0507.

2:3 works fine with 0507.Is there a point to this... ?

[yury2808]

got the subj, burned laetst bios (from 30/08/2006) - everything seem to be just fine.

the question is: I have Conroe ES (6600, 2.4Ghz, 4MB cache) + Zalman 9500 LED (2500 rpm all the time) and while trying to make ram:fsb ratio 1:1, I've set the ram frequency to 400 (800 effective) and cpu multplier to 8. (3.2Ghz)

cpu started up just fine - nothing was changed by me in voltage department - windows xp runned fine, but when checking CPU temperature I found it to be ... 85C ! incredible.. how the hell it was started at all ? why motherboard did not prevent it.

moreover, I've set multipler to be 6 - 2.4Ghz, same as default clock rate for that cpu. temperature dropped, but it still was 75C.

and think about it - I'm talking about cpu temperature under idle, no serious load applied...

ofc, I did reinstalled cooler to make sure its OK, no help.

default settings (266 -> 533, 2:3 ratio, 1066 to CPU, 800 to ram, 2.4Ghz) made CPU to be 40C all the time in idle.

I know ES are hotter since double cache and ... es :) but ... not THAT much ?!

[ninjagordy]

well lads......all is now good......


thank heavens for G.Skill HZ all my issues are well well gone
:woot:

[aggybong]

New ram fixed me right up :) The OCZ guys have great support.

http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/9655/untitledes3.th.png (http://img60.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledes3.png)
(Yea, it's not much, but before I couldn't go over 375. I can probably push it higher!)

[Smartguy]

I have a problem :(

day before my new PC come I installed windows XP SP2 on this configuration:

E6300
P5B Dlx wifi
2x512 533mhz kingmax
7600gt

and everything went perfectly but day later my problems started :(

I got this PC from sig and installed windows without any problems.I installed a few programs and it started to restart after 5-100 minutes after I boot windows. Sometimes he restarts when I'm not doing anything.:mad:

Everything is default and a littlebit later I flashed bios 0405.
I tried prime and when I start torture test after some time it shows: rounding was 0.5 expected less than 0.4


Please help :(

[aggybong]

Do any of you know where to manually read the actual Ram\CPU voltage on this motherboard? I have a DMM, I just don't know which points to use.

[flopper]

I have a problem :(

day before my new PC come I installed windows XP SP2 on this configuration:

E6300
P5B Dlx wifi
2x512 533mhz kingmax
7600gt

and everything went perfectly but day later my problems started :(

I got this PC from sig and installed windows without any problems.I installed a few programs and it started to restart after 5-100 minutes after I boot windows. Sometimes he restarts when I'm not doing anything.:mad:

Everything is default and a littlebit later I flashed bios 0405.
I tried prime and when I start torture test after some time it shows: rounding was 0.5 expected less than 0.4


Please help :(

your cpu seems to be flawed.
Overclocked?

Try rise vcore one notch if that is the case.

[flopper]

I have a problem :(

day before my new PC come I installed windows XP SP2 on this configuration:

E6300
P5B Dlx wifi
2x512 533mhz kingmax
7600gt

and everything went perfectly but day later my problems started :(

I got this PC from sig and installed windows without any problems.I installed a few programs and it started to restart after 5-100 minutes after I boot windows. Sometimes he restarts when I'm not doing anything.:mad:

Everything is default and a littlebit later I flashed bios 0405.
I tried prime and when I start torture test after some time it shows: rounding was 0.5 expected less than 0.4


Please help :(

your cpu seems to be flawed.
Try rise vcore one notch if that is the case.

or try another bios maybe 0507 should work for you.

[Smartguy]

I run memtest86 for 4 hours and no errors. But so far it is stabile. I flashed new 0609. Can somebody tell me where do I change multiplier? I used to have abit boards and their bios.

[Smartguy]

I smell stability :banana:

after I flashed with 0609 BIOS, prime is runing for an hour now. :toast:

before 10 minutes was limit.

EDIT: I think it is stabile now. ;)

this is what I achive in last five minutes:

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/9793/3240he5.jpg

[Wizzo]

Smartguy,

What settings are you using? Would you mind sharing as I have the same set-up as you.
Thanks

[mkorpal333]

Hay guys, where are all the memory timing options in the bios? Oh, and I love this board so far. Everything is up and running and the hardest part was finding the disk with the drivers on it.

[Andypro1]

Hay guys, where are all the memory timing options in the bios? Oh, and I love this board so far. Everything is up and running and the hardest part was finding the disk with the drivers on it.
North Bridge configuration.

[Smartguy]

@Wizzo

Vmem= 1.385V
Vdimm= 2.1V
everything else= auto
speed spectrum= distabled
speed step= distabled

@mkorpal333
advanced>northbridge>and distable or enable something "SPD"

I'm so happy that everything is workin fine now. I will post results when I set up watercooling ;)

[mkorpal333]

Thanks guys. I'm running at 333 fsb right now. Everything seems to be good so far.

[ScottFern]

I have my new P5B Deluxe all setup and running great, but I have one last issue. I cannot figure out a way to boot to a DOS prompt and flash to the new bios.

1) My suspicion is that my floppy drive won't read ANY floppy. (broken floppy?)
2) I do not have a USB thumb drive.

Now what? I tried my CD bootdisk but when I get to the dos prompt it won't recognize ANY of my hard drives?

[bito]

I've just setup my Allendale E6400 in my new P5B Dlx.....running at 3.4ghz/1.376v :)
I used the AsusUpdate utility from within winXP to update the bios on my board.

[Smartguy]

I used the AsusUpdate utility from within winXP to update the bios on my board.

me to :)

[deathman20]

Well I'll be getting mine system soon as well.

Asus P5B Deluxe WiFi-AP with E6600 and 4x 1Gig sticks of G.Skill PC6400 :)

[Harshal]

I got NO BOOT with 0507 + GSKILL PC6400HZ. 0609 Fixed it tho.
Got this right after updating BIOS to 0609.
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/7596/401x9piln5.th.jpg (http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?image=401x9piln5.jpg)
Will tune it later on...

[Kashath]

I have a quick question for anyone running a GX2 on the P5B-D. Is it showing up as running at 8x in the 16x PCI-E slot? I'm guessing it's giving 8x to each card so that's why mine is showing up as only being at 8x but I can't confirm it. Does anyone know for sure?

I've looked around and have never been able to get a definite answer.

[Brahmzy]

Um...just a small question...









































































WHY ISN'T THIS THREAD A STICKY YET?

:)

This board is one of the most capable C2D boards out there. It deserves to be on top.

[dr_sharp]

WHY ISN'T THIS THREAD A STICKY YET?

:)

This board is one of the most capable C2D boards out there. It deserves to be on top.
:toast: :banana: :banana: :banana: :toast:

:with: :with: :with: :with: :with:

[Avman]

4.0 Ghz:toast:
Processor: e6400, Allendale
Bios Revision: 0507
Memory: Team Xtreem 2x1GB, 667 3-3-3-8
vCore: 1.475
vFSB: Auto
vNB: Auto
vMem: 2.250
Configured FSB: 500
Configured Ratio: 8
Configured Memory Timings: 4-4-4-11
C1E and SpeedStep off, Locked PCI Express Frequency locked at 101, PCI Sync Mode at 33.33

[Smartguy]

BIOS version?? :)

[Avman]

0507 - came that way.

[dr_sharp]

0507 - came that way.
Incredible clocks... you have a stellar chip, 4GHz at less than 1.5 vcore!!!

:toast: :banana: :toast:

[Brahmzy]

Killer OC man!

[Smartguy]

update:

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/39/3420fp7.jpg

under 15sek :p

[Avman]

Yep - That extra 2MB cache really helps with Spi - I debated with myself about whether to get a 6400 or a 6600 but after seeing more than a few posts about lower clocking 6600's I figured I might be better off doing my 'Intel Learning' on a more forgiving chip. Seems like I got lucky.

[situman]

Yep - That extra 2MB cache really helps with Spi - I debated with myself about whether to get a 6400 or a 6600 but after seeing more than a few posts about lower clocking 6600's I figured I might be better off doing my 'Intel Learning' on a more forgiving chip. Seems like I got lucky.

vapo cooling? is it stable? no way to get all the way up there with normal cooling since the NB will overheat.

[Smartguy]

with 0609 I can't boot 400FSB. It frezes in bios when i press enter on save and exit.

anybody know what to do??

[yury2808]

Smartguy - have you cpecified voltages for ram/cpu manually ? and timers for ram ? mine have 5-5-5-18 in SPD, but when I set it to use SPD in BIOS, it will boot with 4-4-4-12, as it was for 266Mhz...

and you know that P5B-D BIOS will pump up CPU voltage sky-high if you dont set it manually when go for 400 ? ;) I found C2D 6300 will get around 1.56v in auto mode for 400...

[Smartguy]

i put:
vcore 1.45v
vmem 2.3v
Other voltages I raised just a litle bit.
Memory hasn't reach 800mhz so it is not her. timings are 5-6-6-18

[yury2808]

q: is there any tool to change fan speeds on P5B-D ? even Q-Fan thingy in BIOS does not work for me (Zalman 9500 always stays on max, both case fans too). tried speedfan 4.29, it seems does not support this MB yet.

any solution ?

[bing]

q: is there any tool to change fan speeds on P5B-D ? even Q-Fan thingy in BIOS does not work for me (Zalman 9500 always stays on max, both case fans too). tried speedfan 4.29, it seems does not support this MB yet.

any solution ?

Nope, waiting for it too since starting on P5B Deluxe, Asus has been using the latest Winbond W83627DHG chip for multi I/O and Sensor/Fan management on their latest mid to high end mobo fleet, and it seems like none of the software out there now support it.

SpeedFan author already acknowledged this limitation and probably working toward to support it in next release.

What strange is Winbond still doesn't want to release the detail spec sheet for this particular chip.

Never use Zalman though, I guess it is using 3 wires fan instead of standard 4 wires like the one came with stock intel cooler.

This mobo has 5 fan connectors and only 2 have Q-Fan enabled, try plug the Zalman fan cables at the one labeled Power (3 pins) instead of the standard one for CPU which required 4 pins fan to work properly.

Through BIOS this Power fan pins can be properly controlled by Qfan such as Optimal, Silent or Performance.

[Harshal]

i put:
vcore 1.45v
vmem 2.3v
Other voltages I raised just a litle bit.
Memory hasn't reach 800mhz so it is not her. timings are 5-6-6-18

As far as I see, Bumping VCORE a bit more should do the trick! 1.5V will be a good start. E6600 needs a lil bit more sometimes!

[ScottFern]

I have achieved 500X7 = 3.5Ghz on my E6400 and I am VERY pleased with this.

However, I have noticed 2 bugs. The double restart with this motherboard. It takes 2 tries to boot up after cold boot/restart.
Second, System Properties under the General Tab as well as Core Temp Beta both report clock speed using the default multiplier although I am using 7x.

These 2 issues are very minor considering the speeds I have been able to achieve, but fixing these issues in a future bios would make this mobo just about perfect.

[Haltech]

This should be a sticky considering this seems to be a better board than the 975x brothern... Im going to order one. Looks like it may be the board i need.

[Smartguy]

As far as I see, Bumping VCORE a bit more should do the trick! 1.5V will be a good start. E6600 needs a lil bit more sometimes!


problem is that i lover the multiplier to 8x and put 400FSB and he frezes again :stick:

[OnDborder]

Yes this should be a "sticky"..

Hey I joined in the p5b-deluxe club.. I got a question.
Why in the boot up screen does my 6400 plat. rev.1 read "pc2-4300" on my p5b-deluxe, running bios 609?
Is there something I missed in the bios?
Dram freq. was set at "266" when I first started out.
I'm currently at 8x300, 44415.

[aggybong]

Probably boots at PC2-4300 for compatibility reasons.

[OnDborder]

It reads pc2-6400 in cpu-z.. Wierd.
So I guess I have the right selection in the dram freq.? What if I were running 266 and selected "800" in the dram freq.? What does that do?

[Brahmzy]

Only when you're running 400FSB or higher, 1:1, will it read 6400.

[dr_sharp]

Distortion in audio playback.

Bios: 0609
Initially @ 450x8 but i figured i had fsb that was too high so i clocked down to stock and still got the distortion. i also plugged in my headphones to make sure my speakers weren't crapping out... same result.

Best way to describe it is crackling of higher frequencies. it only becomes noticable when at full volume in windows (not full volume on speakers though).

[dr_sharp]

ALSO,

a warning to anyone using AsusUpdate tool to flash bios in windows... you cannot flash to an older bios. I flashed to 0609 (08/30/06) yesterday and was going back to 0507 (08/10/06) today but the tool will not allow it. Now I have to find a floppy :(

[zizo]

ALSO,

a warning to anyone using AsusUpdate tool to flash bios in windows... you cannot flash to an older bios. I flashed to 0609 (08/30/06) yesterday and was going back to 0507 (08/10/06) today but the tool will not allow it. Now I have to find a floppy :(

Yes you can. Just check the bios downgradable box in options.

[OnDborder]

Only when you're running 400FSB or higher, 1:1, will it read 6400.
Thanks.
So what should the dram freq be set at?

[sluzbenik]

For overclocking, just do 1:1 - the first option. At stock speeds that will be 533

If you set it to auto, the bios will read the SPD but only 607 seems to handle dividers well. So it might not even boot and but has nothing to do with your overclock.

I haven't tried it yet, I only have one computer, can't afford to let it run a leaker beta bios.

[OnDborder]

Thank you.
BTW, I'm running the 609's atm and so far at 8x400 with 4,4,4,15 with my 6400platz. rev.1 Ocz'z.

[ScottFern]

Has anyone come up with an explanation for the double boot? Double restart? If you don't know what I am talking about when I do a cold boot or restart, the computer boots up for 1 second turns off, and then turns on a second time and boots up fine.

[-n7-]

Has anyone come up with an explanation for the double boot? Double restart? If you don't know what I am talking about when I do a cold boot or restart, the computer boots up for 1 second turns off, and then turns on a second time and boots up fine.

I think it's applying the bios settings personally, but yeah, it's annoying & disturbing.

[RDTS]

My setup for the last year has been a AMD 64x2 4400+ which at the time smoked the Intel chips. But I have to say after seting up my new system I'm impressed! I tried to upgrade to a AMD 64x2 4600+ with 2 different boards but didn't see any real improvement since they decided to pretty much kill the 2x1G Cache. So I did a little research and ended up with the Intel E6400/P5B Deluxe Board package from Fry's. I also picked up 2 sticks of 1G OCZ PC2 6400 (800Mhz) Gold Memory.I had a Gforce PCI-E 7600GS video card laying around along with a few Maxtor 300G SATA Drives. First off I could tell it was faster than the 4400+ and even the 4600+! I even did some quick overclocking with ASUS's Ai booster App. 8 x 300 got me to 2.4Mhz with no problems, but any higher with their App won't fly. A question I had is this, the OCZ mem has a latency of 5-5-5-12 is that any good? I've understood 3 is best but 4 will do when cash is a problem, is 5 do-able? Also can raid 0+1 be set up without creaming my existing 300G drive? I have 3 more to add for the setup.
Thanks for the help

[Smartguy]

does anyone know when will bios be relesed??

or at least 0609 but not beta version

[Brave]

Hello,

i have bought the Asus P5B Deluxe, 2gb Teamgroup PC2 6400, Conroe E6600 and a Sapphire X1900XT. I flashed with bios 507, but im getting lots of problems doing overclock with this rig above 300fsb

I have tried this:

CPU Multi 6x
FSB 350 (1:1 mems at 700mhz) <- Underclock
CPU Mhz = 2100mhz <- Underclock
Vmem = Auto, 2.15, 2.25, 2.30
Configs of Mem = BySpd, Manual (4-4-4-12)

With this setting, and all the options in vmem and mem settings, i get lots of errors in Memtest86+

Then..i tried this:

CPU Multi 9x
FSB 300 (2:3 mems at 900mhz)
CPU Mhz = 2700mhz
Vmem = 2.15
Configs da Mem = Manual (4-4-4-12)

Memtest86+ gives no errors, Orthos in memory stress and cpu stress runs everthing fine.

Above 300/310 fsb is starts to give me erros in Orthos memory stress.

3Dmarks crashes, games crashes, so..its not stable at all above +/- 310fsb

I have tryed vmem to 2.3 and vcore to 1.45 and every single setting in bios (enabling and disabling)....and no go.

I have tryed only with 1 Dimm, at 334fsb (3000mhz) it looks like Memtest+ until 4 test, gives no errors, but at windows in Orthos still give erros in memory stress. At 320fsb Orthos runs fine.

I have tried the 1:1 divisor, at fsb at 400 x 6 = 2400mhz but Orthos keeps doing errors and the system its not stable at all.

Memory ? Should i change the memory for a GSKILL HZ 6400 ?

I already lost 3 days because of this damn thing. I cant lose more. I have many work to do :)

Can anyone help me ?

[Raz2133]

Distortion in audio playback.

I've noticed the same thing with both 0609 and 0607. At first I though my MX5021 speakers were dying, but lowering the Windows volume fixes things.

[dinos22]

Distortion in audio playback.

Bios: 0609
Initially @ 450x8 but i figured i had fsb that was too high so i clocked down to stock and still got the distortion. i also plugged in my headphones to make sure my speakers weren't crapping out... same result.

Best way to describe it is crackling of higher frequencies. it only becomes noticable when at full volume in windows (not full volume on speakers though).
i noticed that as well 0607 bios occasionally on internet radio it would crackle....not all the time

but if i put a movie on off the HDD and crank it nothing happens

[OnDborder]

I'm not using onboard sound and no distortion.
Can't complain about this 609, it's got me to 420x8 atm.

About the OCZ gold 6400, from what I've read, it's not the greatest on this p5b.. It seems I've gotten lucky with the set I have, the platz that is.

[RDTS]

Since I updated to 0507 bios I can't even get the ASUS App to get me to 8x300! Before I updated it would work with both Mem's, the Corsair 4-4-4-12 5300 and the OCZ Gold 6400 5-5-5-12. The OCZ is what I have left as I returned the Corsair ($220 apposed to $150). Anybody have a quick way to turn an existing 300G SATA (my boot drive) into a Raid 0+1 set? I have 3 more 300G SATA drives.

[RDTS]

The Asus Ai booster seems kind of lacking. Any othe programs for overclocking this board/chip?

[bing]

Uninstalled those sissee Ai booter, its a crap !

Key for success regarding sofware part of an OC, millilons of restarts, patience and focus on the BIOS ONLY ! Nothing else.

[RDTS]

Thanks Bing! Went into bios and disabled C1E and Speedstepping then set 8x300. Now I'm at 2400 Mhz, 1:1 FSB:Dram,Mem at 300hz 5-6-6-18. Temps are 55c/38c. What test can I do to make sure this is stable? I have 2 days on this system.

[flopper]

Got the board, works without itches.
tried different things and still works well.
currently just doing 8x405 waiting for my waterblock to get it down to business.

tested it up to 8x450 without problems.
using xfi soundcard without any issues.

all and all its a good board.

rig
6600
corsair 2x1gb 5 5 5 5 15 xms2
asus p5b deluxe.
scythe ninja.

[OnDborder]

Personally, I run a quick Super PI, then 3dmard2k1(games only), and then 3dmark2k5(games/cpu tests).. Then do some gaming, CS, FEAR,etc. on each new settings. Some like to do Prime, some like Ortho. Another one is "stresscpu". I used it on my AMD opty rig.

[JoeBar]

Everyday that passes with this board makes me happier i joint the club. Very nice board so far with great stability and oc'ing abilities.
My 6400 seems to top @ 3.45ghz (8x430) no matter what volts i give it. No complaints though it's a really nice oc! :)
My only complaints are the double restart prob (come on asus this isn't a feature :mad: ) and the limited support of temp monitoring tools.
This board deserves to carry the asus brand name, is a definite enthusiast board plus it deserves little more respect in the oc'ing community... ;)
Way better than my previous P5W-DH.

[Smartguy]

Got the board, works without itches.
tried different things and still works well.
currently just doing 8x405 waiting for my waterblock to get it down to business.

tested it up to 8x450 without problems.
using xfi soundcard without any issues.

all and all its a good board.

rig
6600
corsair 2x1gb 5 5 5 5 15 xms2
asus p5b deluxe.
scythe ninja.


what bios are you using and which voltages(give me alot of details),did you distabled something like speedstep, speed spectrum and C1E?
I can't get 400fsb.

[pcdoc1]

"the double restart prob": I didn't think this was an Asus/Bios issue, I thought it was a function of the 965 chipset... I had the thing with that POS DS3...

[dr_sharp]

I've noticed the same thing with both 0609 and 0607. At first I though my MX5021 speakers were dying, but lowering the Windows volume fixes things.
Yea I that's what I ended up doing but you shouldn't have to do that. I backed down to 0507 and got the same thing. I remember I had this with my AXP system and I adjusted the pci latency (or something of the sort) to fix it :confused:

Anybody? anything?

[JoeBar]

"the double restart prob": I didn't think this was an Asus/Bios issue, I thought it was a function of the 965 chipset... I had the thing with that POS DS3...

It is feature of the latest asus board. Both 975 and 965.

[dr_sharp]

It is feature of the latest asus board. Both 975 and 965.
haha, I'm not sure if "feature" is the right word for it. I read somewhere that newer bios' will fix it. :toast:

[pcdoc1]

My point was that if that's the case, it must also be a feature of the Gig. DS3. It does exactly the same thing... :)

[Smartguy]

hope so :)

[JoeBar]

This isn't a feature. It's a hw killer after excessive periods of time (start/stop cycles). :mad:
The only reason i (and most of the ppl here) don't bother is that we're hw enthusiasts and we change them regularly.. ;)
It doensn't happen up untill 375+mhz in my board. When u hit 400mhz it starts.

[sluzbenik]

At stock speed I don't get the restarts. Any overclock triggers it on mine. I figured it was the Asus bios protection.

[mkorpal333]

A couple of things....
first, what is spread spectrum and should it be disabled.
second, on the 507 bios, is anyone missing 2.2 v for the memory. it goes from 2.15 to 2.25 on mine.
third, I was able to oc to 333fsb with it being rock solid (dual folding for 24 hours) I than tried to oc to 400fsb and it wont boot. here are my stats
fourth, what is vanderpool technology and should it be disabled.

6400
p5b deluxe, 507 bios
thermalright ultra 120
Teamgroup xtreem 667 3-3-3-8
mem ratio 1:1
evga 7900 GT ko
vcore 1.4V
Vmem 2.1V
rest auto.
most other things disabled.

thanks for you help

[mkorpal333]

Anyone willing to help me?

[dr_sharp]

with most past systems, spread spectrum has been disabled but i've read a few cases in which spread spectrum actually helped people out... it hasn't hindered my overclock at all... what it actualy does, i do not know (sorry)

Yes, 2.2V is missing... dunno why.

Personally, I disable every feature in the menu with "vanderpool" in it... then again, i've only gotten to 480fsb so maybe thats my problem.

Raise vcore... 1.45 or 1.5 bios should do.

[ScottFern]

I have a question for you guys......I have been debating trying 515X7 for 3.6Ghz at 5-5-5-12 or should I stay content at 500X7 for 3.5Ghz at 4-4-4-10??

At what point does the overclocking not really help? I have noticed that 475FSB may have better SuperPi times than 500FSB and I am trying to figure out why?

[Avman]

A couple of things....
first, what is spread spectrum and should it be disabled.
second, on the 507 bios, is anyone missing 2.2 v for the memory. it goes from 2.15 to 2.25 on mine.
third, I was able to oc to 333fsb with it being rock solid (dual folding for 24 hours) I than tried to oc to 400fsb and it wont boot. here are my stats
fourth, what is vanderpool technology and should it be disabled.

6400
p5b deluxe, 507 bios
thermalright ultra 120
Teamgroup xtreem 667 3-3-3-8
mem ratio 1:1
evga 7900 GT ko
vcore 1.4V
Vmem 2.1V
rest auto.
most other things disabled.

thanks for you help

I have pretty much the same set up - (see sig.) I'm at 1.475v vcore and 2.25v vdimm (I don't know what sort of cooling you've got though.)

I had no problems going straight to 405 fsb and then higher.:woot:

[mkorpal333]

with most past systems, spread spectrum has been disabled but i've read a few cases in which spread spectrum actually helped people out... it hasn't hindered my overclock at all... what it actualy does, i do not know (sorry)

Yes, 2.2V is missing... dunno why.

Personally, I disable every feature in the menu with "vanderpool" in it... then again, i've only gotten to 480fsb so maybe thats my problem.

Raise vcore... 1.45 or 1.5 bios should do.


Well, I bumped my vcore up to 1.45 and the fsb to 400 and got it to boot, but it only lasted about 5 seconds in dual prime 95, so it is no where near stable. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Temps don't look too bad, so I don't think it's a heatsink problem. Maybe I just got a dud or something. Anyway, I set it to my last known stable settings for now.

[dr_sharp]

Well, I bumped my vcore up to 1.45 and the fsb to 400 and got it to boot, but it only lasted about 5 seconds in dual prime 95, so it is no where near stable. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Temps don't look too bad, so I don't think it's a heatsink problem. Maybe I just got a dud or something. Anyway, I set it to my last known stable settings for now.
FYI: few people have gotten 3.6GHz stable w/ less than 1.5vcore (Aveman you are NOT helping my arguement :P nice chip ;) ). Try 1.5Vcore and you should be good for at least a pi benchmark... probably not 24/7 stable but at least you'll get to have some fun. Be brave ;)

[RDTS]

To much trouble! Running at a crummy 2.4 with 8x300. The instant off then back on again on restatrts then nothing, then restart again to get fired up is a real hassle. You guys are going to hate this but I think I'll just pick up the Fry's deal of a E6600 with a ECS P965t-a board. The chip is sold as a tray meaning no fan. But the Intel fan for me runs at 55c when at 2.4mhz so I'll pick up a ASETEK Vapo Chill Micro instead. The ECS board can only go to 333 FSB but that gets you a rock solid 3GHZ. I don't have the time to screw with the ASUS board and the E6400 chip. Besides the ECS P965t-a/E6600 Combo was $379 plus the fan is $50. Any thoughts on this? Am I screwing up my setup? Oh yeah! I'm hoping my OCZ Gold 800mhz works on the ECS.

[ScottFern]

I am currently benchmarking 500X7 on my E6400 at 1.512v because I woke up this morning after priming all night for 8 hours on 1.425v on hour 9 it failed Orthos!

I am not even sure how long it needs to run to be considered stable, but I guess I am doing a good burn-in with my AS5 right now anyway!

EDIT: I just failed after 3 hours with more vcore, and less vcore last night lasted 8 hours? Could it be my ram timings are too tight?

[Blue078]

"the double restart prob": I didn't think this was an Asus/Bios issue, I thought it was a function of the 965 chipset... I had the thing with that POS DS3...

If it's a feature I hate it :) But it's not limited to the i965 chipset. I have a P5LD2 i945 board that does the same thing, starting around 275FSB with a D920
My BadAxe does it too :(

[aggybong]

I am currently benchmarking 500X7 on my E6400 at 1.512v because I woke up this morning after priming all night for 8 hours on 1.425v on hour 9 it failed Orthos!

I am not even sure how long it needs to run to be considered stable, but I guess I am doing a good burn-in with my AS5 right now anyway!


Failing at all is a sign of instability, though it could be something you never run in to in the 'real world'. I consider 24 hours without failing (manually stopping it yourself) 24\7 stable.

[yury2808]

Hey guys, I've got a prob with P5B-Deluxe WiFi/AP: can't even _save_ BIOS when going 1 Mhz over the 430 FSB. When I press "Save-and-exit" - I'm being left in same screen, computer hangs and no reboot helps - have to cleanup CMOS...

System is completely stable @ 430 - 12h dual prime etc.

Memory proved to be completely stable @ 1200Mhz (5-5-5-15, 2.2v)

tried CPU voltage up to 1.4 - no luck. maxed vMCH and other voltages as well - no changes. tried 6x multiplier for cpu - nothing new... played with RAM timings - set them to max, everyone of them - nothing.

What could it be ? what this 430Mhz "edge" is all about ? should go way higher..

ps. cooling is good (Zalman 9500), CPU contacted to cooler well etc.

Any ideas ?

[mcbarnet007]

Hey guys, I've got a prob with P5B-Deluxe WiFi/AP: can't even _save_ BIOS when going 1 Mhz over the 430 FSB. When I press "Save-and-exit" - I'm being left in same screen, computer hangs and no reboot helps - have to cleanup CMOS...

System is completely stable @ 430 - 12h dual prime etc.

Memory proved to be completely stable @ 1200Mhz (5-5-5-15, 2.2v)

tried CPU voltage up to 1.4 - no luck. maxed vMCH and other voltages as well - no changes. tried 6x multiplier for cpu - nothing new... played with RAM timings - set them to max, everyone of them - nothing.

What could it be ? what this 430Mhz "edge" is all about ? should go way higher..

ps. cooling is good (Zalman 9500), CPU contacted to cooler well etc.

Any ideas ?

Try jump to a higher mhz such as 440 and 450 directly. Make sure you have the 0507 bios.

[yury2808]

Try jump to a higher mhz such as 440 and 450 directly. Make sure you have the 0507 bios.
are you sure about BIOS version ? 'cause I have the latest one 0609 (or was it 0607?). jumping to 450 does not help on it, thought - same effect...

ps. btw, with this BIOS I dont have problems within 300-400, as some reporting, thought the problems like this was gone in this version...

[KiD0M4N]

hey guys,

i will be able TO finally fire up my rig.

config: E6400
ram: 2gbhz
mobo: obv P5B Delux
cooling: soon TT120 :P

what worries me is that the 2gbhz (DDR2-800) requires 2.1V to boot at rated speeds. and the bios initially supplies only 1.8V

Will I be able to boot the PC enough to be able to go to bios and set 2.1V? Will I be able to POST? Please advice.

I really dont wanna run around looking for cheap DDR2 just to boot the PC.

Also, is the same thing gonna happen everytime i clear CMOS? (since that would reset the Vdimm to 1.8V)

My mobo is rev 1.03G and shipped with 0507 bios.

Regards,

Karan

[Viss]

Hard to say just give it a try and see what happens. Use only 1 dimm, that might help. And yes after cmos clear vdimm wil be back to default. I use XMS2 rated 2.1v and had trouble getting it up and running but not sure if it was the ram itself or the fact me board wil not run at anything under 401 FSB. I ended up using a no name dimm to set vdimm though.

[mine]

some first impressions :

without any problems 3,8@air (E6600-zalman 9500AT -2x512MB corsair 5400-UL -3-4-4-8 - 7600GT HD)
24/7 @3,0@1,24V

nice made board but with serious onboardsound flaws .

onboardsound "soundmaxhd " drivers are crap in every incarnation (4570 included)
I reinstalled them 3 times .

I use a skystar dvbs/ pci card . Changing channels I get a cpu load of 22% , changing to another channel cpu load is 2 % and so on.
using "sysinternals", a very good and free (!) processexplorer shows :
everytime when the cpu load hits these high numbers its a microsofts kernel driver "kmixer.sys " (microsoftmixer) that kicks in .
a microsoft hotfix changed nothing.

disabling onboardhdsound and everything gets normal .
there are a lot of posts in asus boards as well where people got strange behaviour and bsods related to the soundmaxhddrivers in games , audioapps and using WMC .

the dvb/s card has the same IRQ as the onboard sound
changing the slot to no avail

getting support from asus ...

are you serious ? :lol:

not existing in Germany


support in asus ` very own asus forum ? :lol:

come on..you are joking ...in the ongoeing effort of the "Heart of Technology Company " to maximize profits and lowering quality
ASUS now has heartbreaking site- downloadspeeds and trafficspeeds lower than a Sudan elementary school-blog @ 3-5 Kb/sec.

best
s

[dr_sharp]

come on..you are joking ...in an ongoeing effort of profit maximizaton
ASUS now has site downloadspeeds and trafficspeeds of a Sudan elementary school -blog @ 3-5 Kb/sec.

best
s
lol, I agree... but I was getting 8-9 kb/s :eek: :mad:

[KiD0M4N]

hey guys,

i will be able TO finally fire up my rig.

config: E6400
ram: 2gbhz
mobo: obv P5B Delux
cooling: soon TT120 :P

what worries me is that the 2gbhz (DDR2-800) requires 2.1V to boot at rated speeds. and the bios initially supplies only 1.8V

Will I be able to boot the PC enough to be able to go to bios and set 2.1V? Will I be able to POST? Please advice.

I really dont wanna run around looking for cheap DDR2 just to boot the PC.

Also, is the same thing gonna happen everytime i clear CMOS? (since that would reset the Vdimm to 1.8V)

My mobo is rev 1.03G and shipped with 0507 bios.

Regards,

Karan

any information regarding that? i would really like to NOT have to arrange ddr2. if i could boot once even then i would immd flash to 0609 which supposedly fixes this problem.

[dr_sharp]

any information regarding that? i would really like to NOT have to arrange ddr2. if i could boot once even then i would immd flash to 0609 which supposedly fixes this problem.
I haven't seen anyone having issues with the GBHZ and the p5b Deluxe. Mine came with 0507 and booted fine @ 1.8vdimm.

[JayG30]

The RAM issue is going to depend on the brand and such. It seems it is not JUST a voltage thing. My RAm required 2.1V and did not boot on the P5B. Other brands of ram with same voltage do boot. This si an issue with the old shipping BIOS and is fixed in the newer BIOS releases.

If you have problems getting your board to boot do waht I did and just go to best buy and buy some generic 1.8V kingston RAM. It's expensive for what it is BUT you can take it back after booting and updating BIOS. I got all my money back and got my board to boot up. :)

[yury2808]

one fast and easy chipset cooling solution: two-sided tape and Celeron'466 fan sit to MB right side off the NB.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k153/yuryz_2006/nb-cooler-s.jpg

next step would be making the paper air-tube to make full wind go through the fins of the NB's cooling.

might not be THAT effective as bying the special NB cooling, but quick and fast. and no need to remove default one from board :)

[yury2808]

Still fighting to run board over 430 FSB.. it just don't want to.. no matter what I try :( Voltages, timings.. nothing helps... nothing... ;(

Board revision: 1.03g, Micron RAM working fine @ 1200 Mhz (5-5-5-18, 2.1v) etc.

BIOS: 0609

"Jumping" over to 450+ does not help - tried from 450 to 550 in 10 Mhz step :)

Any ideas ?

[Raz2133]

can't even _save_ BIOS when going 1 Mhz over the 430 FSB. When I press "Save-and-exit" - I'm being left in same screen, computer hangs and no reboot helps - have to cleanup CMOS...

I get the same thing with my E6400 / P5B Deluxe system, only my problem occurs at exactly 435Mhz FSB. :(

I've tried raising voltages, but nothing seems to help. I had assumed it was my cheap Samsung RAM hitting a wall, but with you experiencing an almost identical problem, now I am not so sure.

[JayG30]

one fast and easy chipset cooling solution: two-sided tape and Celeron'466 fan sit to MB right side off the NB.

next step would be making the paper air-tube to make full wind go through the fins of the NB's cooling.

might not be THAT effective as bying the special NB cooling, but quick and fast. and no need to remove default one from board :)

You know this raises a question I have about some DIY cooling. I have this NB cooler...it's rather small and I wouldn't use it on one of these boards alone. But it is just sitting there unused. It's already got a stick backing to it.

I'm wondering if there is any advantage or disadvantage to slapping it on top of the stock NB heatsink...maybe even possibly slap it onto the side of it since it has a fan and could push the heat towards the back of the case. I test fitted and the bottom is the exact same size as the stock NB heatsink...it almost makes it look like one very large one.

I'm interested in anyones thoughts on this and if it would actually do anything. Because I personally have no clue.

[yury2808]

I get the same thing with my E6400 / P5B Deluxe system, only my problem occurs at exactly 435Mhz FSB. :(

whoa. using ClockGen I've stopped exactly there - 435Mhz... I smell something mystic here. 436 makes windows booom :)

btw, whats the CPU do you have ?

[day187]

I get the same thing with my E6400 / P5B Deluxe system, only my problem occurs at exactly 435Mhz FSB. :(

I've tried raising voltages, but nothing seems to help. I had assumed it was my cheap Samsung RAM hitting a wall, but with you experiencing an almost identical problem, now I am not so sure.

Me to when trying to get over 510fsb just locks up on the screen I'm on in the bios. but all i do is unplug the power leave it for 3 mins and boots straight back up no problems.

[yury2808]

Me to when trying to get over 510fsb just locks up on the screen I'm on in the bios. but all i do is unplug the power leave it for 3 mins and boots straight back up no problems.

yeah, same effect.. the thing is - you can start way higher, we stuck at around 430, while yours is 500+ ;(

btw, do you mean that after you boot back (with unplugging for 3 min) - the settings you defined will be there ? 511 ? or the old ones ?

[Raz2133]

btw, whats the CPU do you have ?

E6400 and my motherboard revision is the same as yours 1.03g

[Raz2133]

btw, do you mean that after you boot back (with unplugging for 3 min) - the settings you defined will be there ? 511 ? or the old ones ?
In my case, when I get the BIOS lockup, I have to follow this procedure.

Flick switch on PS to off (and wait for caps etc. to drain).
Flick switch on PS to on.
Attempt to boot (always fails).
Flick switch on PS to off (and wait yet again).
Flick switch on PS to on.
Boot will succeed.
BIOS settings will revert to last known good set.

Yes, its an involved procedure, but it does save having to find the reset CMOS jumper :)

[JoeBar]

In my case, when I get the BIOS lockup, I have to follow this procedure.

Flick switch on PS to off (and wait for caps etc. to drain).
Flick switch on PS to on.
Attempt to boot (always fails).
Flick switch on PS to off (and wait yet again).
Flick switch on PS to on.
Boot will succeed.
BIOS settings will revert to last known good set.

Yes, its an involved procedure, but it does save having to find the reset CMOS jumper :)
I haven't used the clear cmos jumper in an asus mb and when i did it was the last thing to do before deciding than something else is fault or it needs rma... ;)
Your method (more or less) is what i also do when it won't boot.

[TypeVR6]

any information regarding that? i would really like to NOT have to arrange ddr2. if i could boot once even then i would immd flash to 0609 which supposedly fixes this problem.

My P5B deluxe came preloaded with the 0405 bios and I was able to boot my OCZ Plat XTC DDR2 rev2 without any issues.

[Harshal]

Kiddo, as you know I have had issue with that RAM and so did Goldie when he got da sample over a month ago. Hope you get lucky like some of the guyz here.

[yury2808]

I haven't used the clear cmos jumper ...

I have my system nearby open while setting up best o/c config, so I prefer to fast-reset CMOS rather than waiting for multiple reboots and 3min delay :)

anyways, who also have ~430Mhz "wall" on this board ? I'm thinking to rma it and go for DS4/DQ6... :mad:

[JayG30]

Whenever my boot fails or I get a lock up I need only power off, flick PSU switch and wait for the asus light to go off (basically means power has officially been cut), reboot. It will tell me that I have inserted a new CPU most times and to press F1 to enter BIOS or F2 to set BIOS to default values. If you press F1 and go into BIOS all your settings are still there and you can change them back to whatever from there. Saves a lot of time. I've never had to multiply reboot or keep flipping the PSU switch.

[yury2808]

hell with the methods to clear o/c settnings - I dont really care :) I want my mobo to o/c for some over 435. nothing else. I would've been agreed to wait one hour to system startup, if it would be at @ 436 stable...

[gundamit]

I set my DFI 975 mobo aside for awhile until they get the bios sorted out. I picked up the P5B to make sure the Gskill and the Team Group 2gig sets I picked up would live up to the hype. Because of fsb limitiations on every divider on the DFI I had a feeking I hadn't seen their potential.

So after a couple of days with the P5B I finally got around to pushing it and its been a lot of fun, but there's been some head scratching as well. First the good news: With the 2:3 (800) divider it can really make my sticks fly, with the Team Groups edging out the Gskill:

http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/3134/368x9800div4438yn7.png

The 4:5 divider on the 507 bios is just a mess though. I can't get it to work much beyond <300 fsb. I believe its suppose to be fixed on the beta bios, and I'll try it soon.

1:1 works great and I can run it up until temp and voltage become worrysome. I have a water loop I'm prepping right now. I plan to pop the northbridge and mosfet cooler off, then bend the NB cooler up so its out of the way of the NB water block, then pop it back on. As long as I don't pinch the tube I think it'll work fine.

Performance on 32m at 1:1 with another 300mhz for the CPU, (but with a lot less memory speed) doesn't net me a better score, just more volts and heat. :(

http://img323.imageshack.us/img323/7489/402x9533div3338tm3.png

Maybe once I get my water cooling on, I can push the 1:1 fsb up and start tappping into the memory performance again.

[ScottFern]

gundamnit, what is that program you are using for the temps and voltages called?

[gundamit]

gundamnit, what is that program you are using for the temps and voltages called? I can't recall ... but its on the mobo's driver CD under the Utilities tab.

[Kashath]

That's ASUS probe from the CD that comes with the board.