View Full Version : Tforce6100 AM2 Unlimited HTL, 3200MT/s god who need HT 3.0? I'm just getting started.
Serge84
08-21-2006, 12:00 AM
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=113788
This is with the link on stock volts. I... had no idea I could even reach HTL or HTT speeds like this. This was all cus of one memory setting. O_o If I can get the HTT out of this board, I'll raise the HTL much higher. How far do you think I can reach? :cool: I really don't think this board will have a prob running close to HT 3.0 when K8L comes out. All I need to do is get more HTT out of this baby.
Looks like no more 280HTT wall issue. Wonder how that happened. Atleast before I changed the memory settings it couldn't do this. Maybe like somebody else said was the memory controler.
The only perpous of this test was to see how high the HTL could go on stock, I wasn't trying for anything else. I'll put more HTL volts in later and see if I can turn it up a notch.
Serge84
08-21-2006, 12:25 AM
Totally unexpected. http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=113798
3456Mhz hyper transport on 345HTT. Still stock volts in everything. Still think it can go higher? O_o Later I'll see if the HTT can stand upto higher cpu speeds. Right now again I'm just seeing what the HTT and HTL can really do.
[ZIZI]
08-21-2006, 04:52 AM
I say this with all respect man...
But increasing the the ht too such hich bandwith potentials, is like buying yourself a box of 50 cm long condoms, sure its nice but it doesnt do you any good....
arisythila
08-21-2006, 04:59 AM
lol... GREAT anology. It may help out in some programs. But I think in others it wont matter as much.
~Mike
Serge84
08-21-2006, 06:56 AM
Ha ha! Its also just to show off big numbers anyways. XD
Yeah tho HTL speed doesn't matter. It doesn't hurt eather to have the extra bandwidth opened. Tho it will most likly will never use it. lol Well until quad core. HTT of 345 does unlock much of the data rate we want. We all want to get past 300HTT. It wasn't possible until now for me anyways.
Well your not going to need to worry about bottle necks thats for sure like ever. =P
ncc-1709
08-21-2006, 07:06 AM
doesnt look that impresive to me. i havent seen anyone else get 400htt out of an sli-d yet, it seems like im the only person that has done it.
ozzimark
08-21-2006, 07:10 AM
doesnt look that impresive to me. i havent seen anyone else get 400htt out of an sli-d yet, it seems like im the only person that has done it.
yeah, htt != ht link ;)
are you 100% that the board isn't misreporting the multiplier
arisythila
08-21-2006, 08:28 AM
I was able to run a 400 x 5 ht link. with AM2 its not hard.
~Mike
Serge84
08-21-2006, 08:39 AM
http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e113/Serge84/?action=view¤t=X8.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch1
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=113918
Remember I could not get past the 280 CPU FSB wall whatever you want to call it. Now I hit 330FSB on normal speeds. Oh just look at that 1100+ DDR2 OC I never could do before. Wow something just gave and now this Tforce is rocking away. I tryed 4x HTT again now it does these speeds just fine without it.
I can't explain it, beats me. The more I tweek it the more I'll get out of it. I'd bet I could reach 400FSB on the cpu not too long from now. Before I was stuck at 280FSB. Well now it just won't stop. That time that was the CPU voltage craping out at 2.8ghz on 1.375v is the only reason why it didn't go higher. I'll try something else later.
Show me 4ghz Hyper transport? Yeah its not that hard, I'm sure mine can with chipset and HT link voltage at max. Going to put some heatsinks on them before I run volts like that into the chipset and HT link regulators.
Serge: Does the nV chips get very hot?
Serge84
08-21-2006, 09:07 AM
Serge: Does the nV chips get very hot?
Nope, besides I got active cooling and a nice block of copper on them. "the chipset" For the voltage regulators I'd put heatsinks on them when doing voltage to max tho I haven't need to yet. Stock heatsink would be a different story. Never use stock when doing this. The heatsinks can't take volts or speeds that high unless cooled the right way.
Lestat
08-21-2006, 09:09 AM
This was all cus of one memory setting
so instead of claiming you changed 1 mystery ram timing how about showing or telling us what you changed.
showing off isnt much if you dont explain what you did.
i for one was interested in this board until i heard everyone was blocked at 280mhz HTT.
so care to share your secret ?
Serge84
08-21-2006, 09:30 AM
so instead of claiming you changed 1 mystery ram timing how about showing or telling us what you changed.
showing off isnt much if you dont explain what you did.
i for one was interested in this board until i heard everyone was blocked at 280mhz HTT.
so care to share your secret ?
1st of all you need the RH505 Custom bios.
Memory is set to 667mhz in the OC. Multipliers on hypertransport link speed are set to 1x for north and south bridge by width. Hyper transport multiplier is set to 4x and 5x when I did this. All memory timmings as loose as possible besides the one I set to TRC 13. Chipset voltage and HT link voltage are set to 1.25v. Memory set to 2.2v. CPU set to 1.375v to 1.4v when I did this. I have also been doing burnins that run the cpu at stock speed with volts only as high as 1.1v or 1.0v. Something is slowly giving. Somehow, whatever I did overtime I'm getting better speeds and no longer get the 280FSB wall.
I could not post at 280FSB now it does at way over 330. Higher chipset voltage and HT link voltage will help. All I know is a week ago this mobo could not go over 280FSB. Now these combinations of settings have given it just about no limit. I have still yet to see its limit. I'll try more setting changes later. But thats about it. Seems to love high hyper transport speed too.
Cooper
08-21-2006, 10:21 AM
That high HT on 6100 chipset is terrific.
Serge84 can you host that BIOS ?
If not I can help you with that :)
Serge84
08-21-2006, 11:50 AM
http://www.lejabeach.com/Biostar/6100-AM2/CR51A505RH.zip
Theres the Bios. I'm very doutful that was the hyper transport max or the cpu FSB max. None of the volts are even maxed out yet. With a K8L it would prob max out the bios and clockgen. I'll try some more soon.
Cool cat sig btw. Makes me want to show my cats mug off.
Lestat
08-21-2006, 01:16 PM
you screen shots show the lowest multi available
you need to show the same or similar results on a much higher multi or all that this proves is that you have a vERY weak memcontroller on that cpu.
show us some higher cpu-multi screens.
not trying to prove or disprove anything but anyone whos done any a64 clocking knows that a low multi on the cpu usually will wield high HTT unless the board is totally botched or some other setting is way off.
kick that multi up Serge see what she can really do.
Serge84
08-21-2006, 04:25 PM
you screen shots show the lowest multi available
you need to show the same or similar results on a much higher multi or all that this proves is that you have a vERY weak memcontroller on that cpu.
show us some higher cpu-multi screens.
not trying to prove or disprove anything but anyone whos done any a64 clocking knows that a low multi on the cpu usually will wield high HTT unless the board is totally botched or some other setting is way off.
kick that multi up Serge see what she can really do.
Isn't that what I just showed here? http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=113918
No weak memory controller here. But I still don't know what its limit is. I have get to use max volts on everything. That was at stock volts.
Or do you mean hypertransport? Most Tforces arn't even able to go over 280FSB on the board for the cpu. I lowered the multiplier, got 330 and 2.8ghz on it with a high hypertransport.
Didn't I show this off in another place.
http://s38.photobucket.com/albums/e113/Serge84/?action=view¤t=X7.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch1
Well maybe I can hit 3ghz now. The fastest X2 3800+ did 3200mhz I think on AM2 here but was limited by the mobo because the cpu was still at low volts and it hit some fsb wall. Doesn't take much, but if I reach the same fsb as I can with a 8.5 multiplier then a 10x multiplier... Well then I'll start breaking world records.
The only problem is the volts on the board don't work right above 1.55v for the vcore. A new bios would fix that. Still again the bios maybe its limit. But then again thats what I said at 280fsb :cool:
I will not use the 1.95vcore setting. >_>;;; If i wanted 4ghz I could prob get it 3.5ghz maybe more realistic, but prob in the process, tost my cpu. Not going to happen with this cooling. I'd gladly do it when I go 65nm tho cus then I'd never need this cpu again. >D Seriously pumping that much vcore into something will most of the time do it... with its consiquences.
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