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Batman!
08-20-2006, 09:45 PM
Hi, little different kinda (nub) question.

Would you suggest this board to someone who has never owned a dfi board in his life? Ive mostly stuck in the intel&asus area and have heard about the vast amount of options in dfi boards, i.e ram timings, tweaks etc. Do you think this would be a "hard" board for a dfi newbie?

thanks

heydo6
08-20-2006, 09:52 PM
you would just learn no matter what.

momomo6789
08-20-2006, 09:55 PM
this is like the newbe dfi mobo its as weak as a asus mobo atm lol :) Till the new bios but you will learn quickly

Kunaak
08-20-2006, 09:56 PM
DFI boards are definatly not for beginners.
the first time you get into the ram timings area and see 20-30 options in there, it can be overwhelming to try and figure out where to start.... and how to start pinpointing what is the problem with various OC's.

however, if your determined to learn, DFI is the best.

Falkentyne
08-20-2006, 10:14 PM
Kunaak:

I don't know if you're still online, but I REALLY need a motherboard, and that sale at Newegg ends soon.

Be honest to me: should I just get that DFI board now, or should I wait until the new BIOS becomes official, and pay more ?

I know you like that board, but not everyone has been successful with that beta BIOS...and I'm very worried. You saw what happened when I ordered that Foxconn.... TWO people had the board catch fire.....TWO !! (if i hadn't canceled the order in time before it shipped....)

Batman!
08-20-2006, 10:18 PM
DFI boards are definatly not for beginners.
the first time you get into the ram timings area and see 20-30 options in there, it can be overwhelming to try and figure out where to start.... and how to start pinpointing what is the problem with various OC's.

however, if your determined to learn, DFI is the best.

Learning is how I got here :). Is there any kinda guide on what exactly each of those 30 timeing will do? Like a short explanation?

JayG30
08-20-2006, 10:26 PM
I feel the same way. I'm really not sure what to do and I also need a board. The only reason I'm still considering the DFI (and 975 chipsets in general) is the fact that they can run crossfire/sli which is a nice addition even if I will replace this board down the line with something better. I'm a believer in if I'm spending money for something I'd like to get the most for my money and whatever board I get will find it's way into another computer. I'm stuck between the DFI that hopefully will get me to at least 425-450Mhz FSB on an E6400 (which is enough for me) and have my multi-gpu. Or a Asus P5B deluxe which is considerable more and lacks the ability to run multi-gpu but seems to have more FSB potential. I had to rule out the DS3 simple because it adds the problems with RAM voltage and I just don't feel like dealing with that. For the money it would cost me to get some cheap RAM I'd just spend the money on the Asus board.

Sorry for the OT.

JayG30
08-20-2006, 10:29 PM
Learning is how I got here :). Is there any kinda guide on what exactly each of those 30 timeing will do? Like a short explanation?

I think that it should be REQUIRED to have an explaination for all BIOS options in the manual and any added features through BIOS updates must have a text document with explainations as well. Wouldn't that make things easier for everyone?

Kunaak
08-20-2006, 10:47 PM
Kunaak:

I don't know if you're still online, but I REALLY need a motherboard, and that sale at Newegg ends soon.

Be honest to me: should I just get that DFI board now, or should I wait until the new BIOS becomes official, and pay more ?

I know you like that board, but not everyone has been successful with that beta BIOS

I really dont know what to tell you about this board.
its far from perfect, and the VAST majority seem to top out around 380 FSB... but honestly, I dont think most people really gave this board a chance either. people like Dumo and Coolaler have shown that I was not the only one to be able to push this board well past what other people are getting...

but with a standard bios, theres only 1 way to pass 400 FSB, thats by setting your ram to 400 mhz, for the 4:3 ratio.

I also won't claim that 425-450 is easy.
I can do it about 90% of the time, but if the board fails to reboot/boot even once, you can almost without a doubt count on having to clear the CMOS to get it to boot up again, if your past about 400 FSB.

with the support of Oskar Wu, and his usual tinkering of bioses, these boards now have a great deal of potential, but I really dont know when, or even if the oskar bioses will become official from DFI, or even available publicly on the DFI Street forums...

Right now, this boards definatly a gamble.
I havent seen too many with the kinda luck I been having with this board... but then again, I also havent seen people pay too much attention to this board. it's all DS3 and P5WDH around here lately.

I do own a DS3, and I can say, that board is alot better at booting at ridiculously high FSB's, but the 965 chipset, is definatly slower, and by quite a margin in some cases.

my 3.6 ghz allendale, at 8x450 in that board was doing about 15:45 seconds on 32M, and I do little to no mods for that. I just run the benchmark...

same hardware, but in this 975 board, and it does 14:27.

most people have had similar observations, that the 975 boards are definatly faster... but at the same time, they also tend to get less FSB then 965 boards... so its a trade off.

I honestly dont know what to say.

if the Oskar Bios was public, I would definatly say go for it.
with the standard DFI bios... I say, its ok.

Falkentyne
08-20-2006, 10:53 PM
Well i'm not a gambler, so I guess I'll wait.
I can live with paying $20 more, anyway. Besides, I actually SAVED over $80 by buying a Lian Li PC-777 case from a different place (very close to Newegg, in Brea) for $266 shipped, than paying $349 from newegg (total with taxes and shipping); the case was $70 off.

Besides since I live about 10 miles from Newegg, I will probably get the board overnight if I order in a morning, anyhow if I choose rush processing.

And besides, that Corsair XMS2 6400 C3 is out of stock everywhere also....can't use a board without RAM :)

BTW thanks for replying so quickly. I can rest a bit easier now while I wait for the right time to buy my equipment :)

gundersausage
08-21-2006, 01:10 AM
It's not one of DFI's better boards

Batman!
08-21-2006, 02:13 PM
Alright..so back to the drawing board I suppose, might be able to safe the extra money for asus p5wdh, or just might as well wait for rd600 since I want dfi so bad..