OCZ Platinum sticks - Has ANYBODY been successful with them?

[aggybong]

Update: It seems this may be an issue only with Asus P965 boards and this particular ram. Everyone with reported success are using Gigabyte boards or 975x boards (minus one guy who had issues with his P5WDH). This may be a BIOS issue, and the OCZ guys might be able to clear this up now that they have a P5B (Deluxe?) for testing.

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I'm talking about "OCZ2P8001G" or "OCZ2P8002GK" if you bought them in a dual channel kit, but it probably applies to the Gold sets as well. They supposedly run 4-5-4-15 @ 400mhz with 2.1v. The reason I ask is because I haven't seen very many overclock successes with these sticks, and if it's a widespread problem, it should be known.

Please list your motherboard, settings tried, BIOS versions used, and what you were able to attain at STABLE settings.

For me:
Motherboard: Asus P5B Deluxe
BIOS: 0405, 0502, 0507
Settings tried: EVERYTHING! Maxed out the voltage, disabled everything, enabled everything, everything set to auto, dropped the CPU multiplier just to test FSB\Ram...

The result? The only BIOS that works is the one with broken timings (Can't change them from x-7-7-23) and only at 3Ghz (8x375). With those settings I'm stable for 19 hours in 2xPrime95. If I try to drop the CPU multiplier to 6, I'm still limited by the 375mhz FSB.

The results with the 405 and 507 BIOS are identical. The ram timings are fixed, but since they don't allow 6-7-7-23 settings in the BIOS (max is 6-6-6-18), I can't set up the same exact scenario as with the 502 BIOS. I cannot overclock at all, and even at stock settings my system is flaky. Some reboots will result in errors in Memtest after seconds, other reboots will let me run multiple passes without issue.

I have no idea if it's the RAM itself or if it's just incompatible with the P5B-D. The OCZ guys were nice enough to send me an updated SPD file to flash my ram with, but all that solved was fixing cold boot problems.

[APcivic01]

i have the OCZ2P8002GK and the same mobo and i cant get my fsb higher the 323 on them. i actually just started a thread about it.

[Brahmzy]

Mine work great. It's my proc I can't get to high FSB. I've ran memtests @ 378FSB and they passed fine.

[aggybong]

It might be related to P965 motherboards. I think all of the success stories I've heard so far are from 975x users :(

[heydo6]

alot of people been talking about ocz not working well . don't they have lifetime guarantee return them .

[aggybong]

Yea but if you RMA them you just get the same model back. I don't think it would solve anything :( (Unless they are giving out Rev2s?)

[WesM63]

Well i've had nothing but problems with the 2 sets i've had. No one at OCZ informed me that i needed the rev2's to work how i want.

They do fine running 5-6-5-16 but will not run 4:3 divider 4-5-4-15.

I've given up, don't have the patience anymore.

[aggybong]

I don't know if the Rev2s solve anything, but at least they are different sticks than the Rev1s.

[Brahmzy]

Ya get what you pay for I guess. I know I got mine CHEAP.

[ZX7891]

for me gigabyte ds3 2.21vdimm 510mhz 5-5-5-15

ocz gold pc2 6400 5-5-5-15 2.0v

[Shpoon]

I'm undecided now....need more info on this...was about to pull the trigger on the 6400 XTC Plat R1s....maybe I should spring for the EPP (7200 4-4-3-15) models instead ($100 more, but still cheaper than the R2s)....

Or...suggestions?

(R1 = $249 after rebate, R2 = $329, EPP (7200) = $314)

[Brahmzy]

Good grief - I got my R1's for $149 shipped. (2x1GB) from Fry's (Outpost).

[Yourself]

Rev 2's in a DS3 with ~2.1 v at 840(5:4) 4-4-4-15 no issues...so far...

Self

[idiotec]

Running mine at DDR2-800 4-4-4-12 at 2.0 vdimm 24/7. They ran fine at DDR2-926 4-5-4-15 with 2.1 vdimm.

I could not get them to run DDR2-1000 at 5-5-5-15.

I would say they are good sticks for the money since they can be had for about $150 after rebate. But they do not match up against the HZ's.

[aggybong]

So far everyone with success stories are on the DS3.

[WesM63]

I think the real question is, what divider is everyone using. Yea mine works fine 1:1 or anything above that at rated timings. However, using 4:3 divider and the rated timings, the system refuses to boot.

[zoob]

Cool, I just pushed my Rev 1's to DDR2-800 @ 4-4-4-12 2.10 V 1:1 divider

[Fred_Pohl]

I'm pretty sure that OCZ gets the same Elpida chips from Samsung that other DIMM makers get. The only things specific to OCZ would be the PCB, SPD programming and speed binning.

I bought a 2x1GB kit of OCZ EL Platinum XTC from Frys for $130AR and they booted up on my DS3 at DDR2-800 (5-5-5-15) @1.8V and I'm now running them at 1:1 DDR2-800 (4-4-4-12) @2.1V. They also work fine at DDR2-830 (4-4-4-12) @2.1V using 333FSB and 5:4.

Maybe you have a bad stick?

[aggybong]

No, read the thread. There are people with problems, and it's not due to bad sticks.

[Daave]

No, read the thread. There are people with problems, and it's not due to bad sticks.

I bought the P800R22GK dual channel kit (2GB Platinum XTC rev2) and I will soon be putting them into my P5W DH. Ive got a question -- the motherboard has a disclaimer when I open the box that says OCZ memory needs the voltage to be set manually by putting in 1 stick in the furthest slot from the CPU and booting in the BIOS. What voltage should I be setting it to.. (for stock operation)

[aggybong]

It's 2.1v

With the Rev2s you shouldn't have any of the problems some of us are experiencing :(

[barrymaldon]

i've got 2 gig plat 4-5-4-15, mine must be revision 2 as i'm running them at 850 4-4-4-15 with 2.1v and a p5w-dh, don't think they've got much more in them but they were really cheap and they are working fine so i'm happy

[aggybong]

Rev2 sticks are officially rated 4-4-4-15 instead of 4-5-4-4-15, so you might have Rev1

[DaWaN]

I'm undecided now....need more info on this...was about to pull the trigger on the 6400 XTC Plat R1s....maybe I should spring for the EPP (7200 4-4-3-15) models instead ($100 more, but still cheaper than the R2s)....

Or...suggestions?

(R1 = $249 after rebate, R2 = $329, EPP (7200) = $314)

Get the 7200 EPP, they rock, they have D9GKX :toast:

[mackanz]

I think the real question is, what divider is everyone using. Yea mine works fine 1:1 or anything above that at rated timings. However, using 4:3 divider and the rated timings, the system refuses to boot.

At what fsb does the board boot with that divider?

[Sumanji]

Eeeek, bought a 2GB kit of this a few months back as they were uber cheap, but they've just been sitting in my wardrobe :( hope I don't run in to any issues on the MSI 975X PPUE I'm planning to get...

Here are the chips it uses:

Elpida 667MHz UTT memory chip

Chip Capacity • 512 Mbits

Chip Configuration • NA

Chip Speed Grade
• DDR2-667 (5-5-5)
• DDR2-533 (4-4-4)
• DDR2-400 (3-3-3)

Chip Rated Timings
• 5-5-5 @ 667MHz DDR
• 4-4-4 @ 533MHz DDR
• 3-3-3 @ 400MHz DDR

Chip Rated Voltage • 1.7 - 1.9 V

Chip Power Dissipation • 1 Watt

Chip Refresh Rate • 7.8 µs

Chip Package • 60-ball FBGA

Operating Temperature • 0 °C to +95 °C


Mine work great. It's my proc I can't get to high FSB. I've ran memtests @ 378FSB and they passed fine.

What about Prime95 dude? Afaik, Memtest isn't too good at picking out subtle memory problems. And did you try running on something like a 3:4 divider to see if they are ok running at the full 400MHz?

Thanks,

Suman

[WesM63]

At what fsb does the board boot with that divider?

Not sure what your asking here, but i've spoken with 2 OCZ reps already (Ryder and Tony). Both came to the conclusion of RMAing my sticks. I did and the new sticks do the same thing. I'm tired of messing with it.

I'm want to know if its an isolated issue or if everyone with Rev1 sticks and a P5W DH is having the same issue. Try running the sticks with 4:3 divider and rated timings (4-5-4-15).

[ownage]

I bought the 2GB Platinum XTC rev2 kit, and i have some problems.
I'm using the Asrock 775dual-VSTA, so i can use my 6800U AGP with my Conroe.
My system isn't running that well, i have lags all the time, and is sertainly not 3d-stable.
I have my sticks running on 533mhz -4-4-4-10, and still it isn't stable(to be sure mem isnt to high for max voltage). I'm not sure if it are my OCZ sticks, or the mobo. I will order an p5b deluxe, and hope that will give me a stable system.

The a$rock uses the VIA P880 chipset :slapass:

[Vric]

Mine are OCZ2P8002GK rev1, tested at 940Mhz 5-5-5-15 on a P5WD2. Can't run them as high with my celeron right now, but at least I know they work fine.

Will see on my P5B once I will get my Conroe.

[mackanz]

Not sure what your asking here, but i've spoken with 2 OCZ reps already (Ryder and Tony). Both came to the conclusion of RMAing my sticks. I did and the new sticks do the same thing. I'm tired of messing with it.

I'm want to know if its an isolated issue or if everyone with Rev1 sticks and a P5W DH is having the same issue. Try running the sticks with 4:3 divider and rated timings (4-5-4-15).

That's ok. How many can boot and use that divider on this board, no matter what ram they use?

[Rare1]

DS3 w/ Platinum EL XTC (2x1gb)

No problems running 425fsb 1:1 4-5-4-15

[WesM63]

That's ok. How many can boot and use that divider on this board, no matter what ram they use?

I know personally a few people that don't have issues with other ram and P5W DH and 4:3 divider. I myself have tried 4x512 of generic corsair stuff and can run 4:3 4-5-4-15 with it.

[RyderOCZ]

I know personally a few people that don't have issues with other ram and P5W DH and 4:3 divider. I myself have tried 4x512 of generic corsair stuff and can run 4:3 4-5-4-15 with it.You can run 4-5-4-15 with the 4:3 divider at 400+ FSB with those 4 sticks?

Can you run 266 FSB (stock) at 4:3 with the OCZ Ram Wes?

[WesM63]

You can run 4-5-4-15 with the 4:3 divider at 400+ FSB with those 4 sticks?

Can you run 266 FSB (stock) at 4:3 with the OCZ Ram Wes?

Ryder,
Yes. That is what prompted Tony to suggest an RMA. That is how I know it is the ram having problems not the board. With the OCZ Ram the system refuses to boot at 4-5-4-15 4:3 at 400*9 (which is 300mhz mem speed). I have not tried running 4:3 at 266FSB with 4-5-4-15 timings.

[RyderOCZ]

Ok, next question, why do you need the 4:3 divider?

4 GHz would be 444 FSB, if you run 1:1 that is only DDR888 which the ram should do with a little looser timings maybe.

[WesM63]

I don't *need* it, but the fact of the matter is, the ram should be able to run 4-5-4-15 at 300mhz no problem. That is where my problem lies. (Now, i know the cpu will go faster, tested to 412*9 4:3 5-6-5-x. So i've pretty much eliminated everything here except the ram.)

The board doesn't like 1:1 and i've learned to live with that, 390FSB is the max i've tested with the OCZ ram at 1:1 4-5-4-15. (which is still below the rams rated speed)

[sn_85]

I've got the 2gig plat kit rev1's but after hearing all the problems its had with several boards i tried to buy my way out of it by getting the bad axe (on its way). it was $100 more for a motherboard i didnt want to spend but this system was for a friend and i wanted stability out of the box. didnt want to hassle with an rma. hopefully i can still get 2.4ghz out of an E6300, gonna be more of a challenge though.

[Sumanji]

The board doesn't like 1:1 and i've learned to live with that, 390FSB is the max i've tested with the OCZ ram at 1:1 4-5-4-15.

Is this stable though?

[Shpoon]

Good grief - I got my R1's for $149 shipped. (2x1GB) from Fry's (Outpost).

(I live in Canada).

Btw, R1s.R2s.or 7200's? :p:

[mackanz]

I don't *need* it, but the fact of the matter is, the ram should be able to run 4-5-4-15 at 300mhz no problem. That is where my problem lies. (Now, i know the cpu will go faster, tested to 412*9 4:3 5-6-5-x. So i've pretty much eliminated everything here except the ram.)

The board doesn't like 1:1 and i've learned to live with that, 390FSB is the max i've tested with the OCZ ram at 1:1 4-5-4-15. (which is still below the rams rated speed)

If the ram won't do specified speeds, no matter what divider used, then off course something is wrong, but getting 4 sticks that stops at the exact same speeds is close to impossible. Send either myself or Ryder an email and we will sort you out. I will make sure you get an advanced shipment sent out today if you want.

[Shpoon]

If the ram won't do specified speeds, no matter what divider used, then off course something is wrong, but getting 4 sticks that stops at the exact same speeds is close to impossible. Send either myself or Ryder an email and we will sort you out. I will make sure you get an advanced shipment sent out today if you want.

Let me ask you a question then....is it confirmed that R1s are giving problems with the boards?I can't really afford to buy them, then have all these issues....

And seeing as R2s cost almost $100 more....seems like a bad situation....

Are you guys really RMAing R1s that don't work with the boards for R2s?

[WesM63]

If the ram won't do specified speeds, no matter what divider used, then off course something is wrong, but getting 4 sticks that stops at the exact same speeds is close to impossible. Send either myself or Ryder an email and we will sort you out. I will make sure you get an advanced shipment sent out today if you want.


I'm not sure where the new set stops at. The only thing I tested was 400*9 4:3 4-5-4-15 (would be 300mhz on the mem) and the system refused to boot. Exact same problem as the first set i had.

[Fred_Pohl]

FYI, Elpida and Samsung are BOTH OEM memory chip manufacturers (Japanese and Korean, respectively), so I doubt that Samsung is buying Elpida chips to put on their PCBs when they make their own in-house.

My bad. I read some bad info somewhere and didn't check it out. All I really know about Rev. 1 ELP is that an OCZ rep told me it used the same Elpida chips as Gold but was higher binned. Rev. 2 uses different chips.

[aggybong]

Which chips do the Rev2 use?

[updawg]

I use GK's and if I overclock at all I can't manually set the timings, no bios post ever. However if I run stock at 266 on my p5w dh I can run stock timings grouped with my e6600. Right now i'm running at 370x9 and the timings are set to auto because once again if I were to touch them I would get a no boot. They are at a disgusting 5-6-6-18 according to cpu-z. I'm running at 740 mhz, and I error everytime on memtest, the only time I don't is if I leave it completely stock. However it is orthos dual prime stable.

[Tony]

Guys

you may not have ram issues here, you may have strap issues that are causing the none boot etc. I know I keep harping on about this but untill we know what strap these boards are setting we have to be sure we have tested everything.

4:3 may be off the 800 strap, so with the fsb on the CPU at 400 you have a massive overclock on the NB which is causing you issues.

Wes, I need you to just load setup defaults, make sure the ram is on 800 mode if thats what its rated for and see if it runs ok...if it does, overclock the ram till you hit its max and let me know.

Then drop the ram back to 667 mode and do the same, in theory if the CPU is good the ram should hit the same speed.

Now if you then drop to 533 or 400 mode and the CPU now clcoks like a dog the board has changed strap and this is the cause of the issues.

I know its a lot to do but this may prove the ram is just fine and you have in reality just a board overclocking issue.

[aggybong]

I know you guys are trying to help, but I've tried everything humanly possible.

With the 502 BIOS, the ram timings are extremely high (again, x-7-7-23 and LOCKED at that timing) but I can overclock some. Mainly, I can get to 8x375FSB (1:1) and be Prime95 stable for 19 hours. That seems to be the limit, though.

When I switch to a BIOS WITHOUT broken timings, I can't do 375, let alone 350, 320, 300...etc. I don't know if the ram is bad, but I do think there is a huge incompatibility with the OCZ sticks and this Asus board.

[WesM63]

Guys

you may not have ram issues here, you may have strap issues that are causing the none boot etc. I know I keep harping on about this but untill we know what strap these boards are setting we have to be sure we have tested everything.

4:3 may be off the 800 strap, so with the fsb on the CPU at 400 you have a massive overclock on the NB which is causing you issues.

Wes, I need you to just load setup defaults, make sure the ram is on 800 mode if thats what its rated for and see if it runs ok...if it does, overclock the ram till you hit its max and let me know.

Then drop the ram back to 667 mode and do the same, in theory if the CPU is good the ram should hit the same speed.

Now if you then drop to 533 or 400 mode and the CPU now clcoks like a dog the board has changed strap and this is the cause of the issues.

I know its a lot to do but this may prove the ram is just fine and you have in reality just a board overclocking issue.

Tony,
I have done all this over and over again. If I could remember all the stuff off the top of my head i'd tell you right now.

However, unless someone can explain to me how I am able to run 4x512mb sticks at 400*9 4-5-4-15 4:3 and not the OCZ sticks, I'm 99% positive it is the ram. In theory, the only thing that changes is the amount of sticks and chips in the sticks. Everything else stays the same.

I understand what you are saying about putting the stress on the chipset, but wouldn't 4x512mb put MORE stress on the chipset than 2x1gb? I'm no expert, but in the 5+ years i've been doing this, thats always the way its worked.

[Fred_Pohl]

Which chips do the Rev2 use?

I don't know but IIRC, I read someone here post that they are using Micron D9xxx. Given the higher cost of rev. 2, that seems plausible enough.

[Tony]

Wes

4x512 is less load as they will be single sided...if you had 4x512 that were all double sided then the load would be higher.

I really do need you to test how i pointed out here, I just need to know how your ram does in 667 and 800 mode. If you hit DDR1000 like I am on the DS3 you will start to think like I am ;)

I also see reading various posts some users are hitting very high FSB's in 533 mode and similar users are having real issues with similar ram...you have to admit these new boards are plagued with issues.

Please test again if you can and let me know how your ram does.

T

[Tony]

I don't know but IIRC, I read someone here post that they are using Micron D9xxx. Given the higher cost of rev. 2, that seems plausible enough. it is not micron

[WesM63]

Wes

4x512 is less load as they will be single sided...if you had 4x512 that were all double sided then the load would be higher.

I really do need you to test how i pointed out here, I just need to know how your ram does in 667 and 800 mode. If you hit DDR1000 like I am on the DS3 you will start to think like I am ;)

I also see reading various posts some users are hitting very high FSB's in 533 mode and similar users are having real issues with similar ram...you have to admit these new boards are plagued with issues.

Please test again if you can and let me know how your ram does.

T

Tony,
Thanks for the info. I'll give it a shot tonight if I can. Markus and Jimmy have already issued me another RMA (see my PM) so do you really want me to do this lol.

[Tony]

Yes I do....im working thru boards right now and seeing the same 5h1t as you are, I swap the board and the ram works and I swap it back and it does not.

I know you are getting an RMA, the issue may be the board though. Also remember these are mainly overclocking issues, if you booted with the CPU at stock speed and just set 800 mode i bet it would prime all day every day.

[WesM63]

Yes I do....im working thru boards right now and seeing the same 5h1t as you are, I swap the board and the ram works and I swap it back and it does not.

I know you are getting an RMA, the issue may be the board though. Also remember these are mainly overclocking issues, if you booted with the CPU at stock speed and just set 800 mode i bet it would prime all day every day.


No problem bud. If it helps you i'll take a stab at it.

[Tallman]

Not a 3:4 but fine at 2:3 with OCZ DDR2 1000's (#OCZ2P10002GEEK)

at rated specs of 4-5-4-15 and running and booting at 540 Mhz for effective DDR2 1080.,,,,,,,, 2.2v,,,,,,,,,360 fsb,,,,,,,,e6700,,,,,P5WDH Dlx

[amx]

So I am guessing its a bad Idea to buy the OCZ plat 6400 mem.
Outpost has a swt deal for 2gb kit. $140 After Rebate.
http://shop1.outpost.com/product/4815800

Cheapest 2gb kit Ive found.

[aggybong]

Considering all the problems, no, I don't think it's a good idea. Cheapest obviously doesn't mean the best :(

[updawg]

"I know you are getting an RMA, the issue may be the board though. Also remember these are mainly overclocking issues, if you booted with the CPU at stock speed and just set 800 mode i bet it would prime all day every day."

Tony I can affirm you with my platinum xtcs that they do work fine at stock speeds but any overclocked attempt whatsoever results in a non boot. I was abloe to boot up at 4-5-4-15 800mhz @ 266 fsb no problem and run memtest free of errors, but now I'm overclocked at 370x9 I can not chane the times from auto.

[Brahmzy]

Me 2.

[fyleow]

I'm running these sticks stable on an Asus P5B Deluxe (0507 bios) at 450 FSB.

DDR900 5-5-5-15 timings. 2.05 Dimm voltage.

On my Gigabyte DS3 (F4 bios) I can get a maximum of 430 FSB.

DDR860 5-5-5-15 timings. 2.00 Dimm voltage.

I had lots of stability issues running over 2.00v using the Gigabyte motherboard. I couldn't get any speeds other than stock to run stable until I lowered the voltage. It wasn't a PSU issue. I use an Antec Trio 650 watt PSU. It has three 12V rails rated at 19A each, and I'm not running SLI.

[aggybong]

Rev2 or Rev1?

If you are using Rev1, you are the first I've heard without problems. Do you mind listing the settings you've used?

[fyleow]

Rev2 or Rev1?

If you are using Rev1, you are the first I've heard without problems. Do you mind listing the settings you've used?

I am using Rev 1.

The setting I used are posted in another thread that had pictures of the bios. Basically I disable everything that is not needed: every function of the CPU with the exception of Virtualization, parellel ports, legacy usb, audio codec. All my voltages are set to stock, except CPU is set to 1.325v and +0.2 Vdimm. Memory timings are set to manual, 5-5-5-15.

I had the exact same problems as many people described. Dual prime was not stable for me even at stock FSB and the divider set to run at DDR 667. I tried everything and got frustrated until I saw someone on Anandtech saying he fixed the stability problem by lowering DDR voltages. I lowered my dimm voltage and I could suddenly push my FSB to 430.

I have tested my system to be dual prime stable for a full 24 hours using the blend test.

I have tried some Corsair sticks as well and they were not stable, so this might not be an issue affecting OCZ memory only. I really doubt RMAing your sticks will help either, because I have tried out another pair of the same Rev 1 Platinum 6400 DDR2 2 gb kits and they had the same issues. I also notice this behavior on multiple DS3 boards, and the same 430 FSB wall on 2 DS3s I tried. With the P5B Deluxe I can get 480 FSB stable using the same hardware.

[ProfessorFate]

DFI 975X 7/31 bios
E6600
OCZ2P8002GK (R1s)

[Batman!]

Yey i have hope!

[OnDborder]

I'm running these sticks stable on an Asus P5B Deluxe (0507 bios) at 450 FSB.

DDR900 5-5-5-15 timings. 2.05 Dimm voltage.

On my Gigabyte DS3 (F4 bios) I can get a maximum of 430 FSB.

DDR860 5-5-5-15 timings. 2.00 Dimm voltage.

I had lots of stability issues running over 2.00v using the Gigabyte motherboard. I couldn't get any speeds other than stock to run stable until I lowered the voltage. It wasn't a PSU issue. I use an Antec Trio 650 watt PSU. It has three 12V rails rated at 19A each, and I'm not running SLI.
Perhaps you can give those settings to Tony or one of the other OCZ's reps to assist them in assisting all of us.
I haven't got an Conroe rig yet, but I did buy rev.1 plats from Outpost. So any knowledge they gain would be appreciated.

[amx]

I jumped the gun last night. Even with so many people having issues with them. I think the problem is rather isolated to only a group of people with bad sticks. Well i'll keep my fingers crossed and see what group I fall into.

[Rare1]

I jumped the gun last night. Even with so many people having issues with them. I think the problem is rather isolated to only a group of people with bad sticks. Well i'll keep my fingers crossed and see what group I fall into.

I can tell you I had zero issues with mine.

[aggybong]

Seems like this might just be related to the Asus P965 boards. Everyone with success stories are on 975x motherboards (save for one) and other P965 boards. Interesting.

[Sumanji]

Well I'm pretty much set on ordering an MSI 975X PPUE and E6400 tomorrow... will report back here with my findings with the RAM!

[fyleow]

Seems like this might just be related to the Asus P965 boards. Everyone with success stories are on 975x motherboards (save for one) and other P965 boards. Interesting.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2421/asusiy5.jpg

Asus P5B Deluxe 0507 Bios. 2.05v Dimm.

Perhaps you can give those settings to Tony or one of the other OCZ's reps to assist them in assisting all of us.
I haven't got an Conroe rig yet, but I did buy rev.1 plats from Outpost. So any knowledge they gain would be appreciated.

I used the settings posted in this thread. There are already screen shots of the bios here so I won't repost them. However, I don't overvolt FSB, MCH or PCI Express voltages. They are set at auto. CPU is manually set at 1.325v because with the F4 bios it will overvolt automatically for you if you set it to Normal. I also changed my memory timings to 5-5-5-15.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=110004&highlight=DS3+bios

[aggybong]

For most of the memory settings all I see are AUTO :( The screenshots in that thread show 4-4-4-12, but your CPU-Z shows 5-5-5-15? What exactly did you use? What would be *REALLY* helpful is if you ran Memset and posted a screenshot of the values listed. You can get it here: http://rv.page.cegetel.net.perso.cegetel.net/MemSet22beta.zip

[fyleow]

For most of the memory settings all I see are AUTO :( The screenshots in that thread show 4-4-4-12, but your CPU-Z shows 5-5-5-15? What exactly did you use? What would be *REALLY* helpful is if you ran Memset and posted a screenshot of the values listed. You can get it here: http://rv.page.cegetel.net.perso.cegetel.net/MemSet22beta.zip

Sorry, you're right. I changed the memory timings to 5-5-5-15 as well. I'll update the other post. This is the memset using the Asus board.
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7452/memsetsr3.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=memsetsr3.jpg)

[aggybong]

Hmm, those blank fields are weird. Could you possibly reboot and run Memtest right away to see if they are filled in?

[fyleow]

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9800/fixeddd6.jpg

DS3 + OCZ 2gb Platinum 6400 XTC Kit from Outpost/Fry's.

Make sure "Memory Performance Enhance" is set to Fast and NOT Normal or Turbo.

Make sure DIMM OverVoltage Control is not more than +0.2V

[Brahmzy]

^^ I did notice that if I go over 2.1V, memtest and Orthos BOMB immediately. I tried all different voltages (low and high) and 2.1VDIMM was the most stable by far.

OCZ said my new RAM should ship tomorrow FedEx, so I'll post results ASAP. I still don't know what they're sending me, although they said "upgrade." It'd be nice if they sent me the Rev. 2 stuff. :)

[amx]

^^ I did notice that if I go over 2.1V, memtest and Orthos BOMB immediately. I tried all different voltages (low and high) and 2.1VDIMM was the most stable by far.

OCZ said my new RAM should ship tomorrow FedEx, so I'll post results ASAP. I still don't know what they're sending me, although they said "upgrade." It'd be nice if they sent me the Rev. 2 stuff. :)
Sweet. Update us when you get it.

[idiotec]

I played around with these things a bit, and got them to play a little. I didn't have time to fully test stability, I will try that soon.

vdimm - 2.2v
Memory Performance Enhance - Fast (Based on suggestion from fyleow)

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9630/ddr21000fq7.jpg

[zoob]

Anyone running these sticks without a fan blowing over them? My set get errors without active cooling. =\

[idiotec]

Anyone running these sticks without a fan blowing over them? My set get errors without active cooling. =\
No fan on mine. I run them at stock speeds with 2.0vdimm.

[WesM63]

Well i'll update my status here as well. From my other thread:

Well got a nice package in the mail from OCZ today (well it was actually here on tuesday, but no one was home to sign for it).

Popped these bad boys in and no problems what so ever! Big thanks to OCZ, after the mix up on my first RMA they got me sorted out and then some!

Yes the ram wouldn't run rated timings using 4:3 divider. RMA'd the first set (Tony at OCZ told me too), got another set back and still had the same issue. I spoke to marcus and Jimmy at OCZ next, there was a mix up, they where supposed to send me Rev2 and did not. OCZ then pulled one out for me, overnighted a new better set because of the previous mix up.

OCZ tech support is great, sometimes you have to jump through hoops with company's and I don't blame them.

[Vric]

Anyone running these sticks without a fan blowing over them? My set get errors without active cooling. =\

No fan either, but have good case airflow.
Memory run perfectly fine.

[Brahmzy]

Well i'll update my status here as well. From my other thread:
That's good news - I hope next week I'll be happy with my RMA too. Did they send the same stuff or the rev. 2 stuff?

[Ruhnie]

I am using Rev 1.

The setting I used are posted in another thread that had pictures of the bios. Basically I disable everything that is not needed: every function of the CPU with the exception of Virtualization, parellel ports, legacy usb, audio codec. All my voltages are set to stock, except CPU is set to 1.325v and +0.2 Vdimm. Memory timings are set to manual, 5-5-5-15.

I had the exact same problems as many people described. Dual prime was not stable for me even at stock FSB and the divider set to run at DDR 667. I tried everything and got frustrated until I saw someone on Anandtech saying he fixed the stability problem by lowering DDR voltages. I lowered my dimm voltage and I could suddenly push my FSB to 430.

I have tested my system to be dual prime stable for a full 24 hours using the blend test.

I have tried some Corsair sticks as well and they were not stable, so this might not be an issue affecting OCZ memory only. I really doubt RMAing your sticks will help either, because I have tried out another pair of the same Rev 1 Platinum 6400 DDR2 2 gb kits and they had the same issues. I also notice this behavior on multiple DS3 boards, and the same 430 FSB wall on 2 DS3s I tried. With the P5B Deluxe I can get 480 FSB stable using the same hardware.


That might have been me, good to hear you are able to OC stable on the DS3. I haven't had a chance to OC yet, but I'll be keeping my vdimm on 2.0v for now.

[Lizardus]

newest beta BIOS for Asus P5B deluxe : 0605
1. Fix Kentsfield CPU incorrect issue
2. Add patch for OCZ2G8002GK-6400
3. Add patch S3 suspend function not stable when CPU FSB over 300MHz

Somebody w/p5b dlx tell me if this bios help something.....

LINK: http://www.computerbase.de/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=53343&d=1156408024

[aggybong]

I would definitely not try that BIOS until it's on Asus' ftp. One XS member said it hosed TWO of his Windows installs.

[Vric]

Finally had some time to play a bit with my E6600 and this memory.

With 2:3 divider, I can run them at 850Mhz. After that, it fail with memtest.

But my problem is all divider give me problem.

1:1 with 300Mhz FSB (600Mhz memory) = error in memtest
1:1 with 400Mhz FSB (800Mhz memory) = error again
3:4 with 300Mhz FSB (800Mhz memory) = same errors
4:5 with 300Mhz FSB (750Mhz memory) = once again errors

I tried CL 4-5-4-15 and 5-6-6-15. Most of the time, memory won't boot when set by SPD and need a cmos clearing. Voltage is set to 2.1V.

So basicly, I can't overclock with this memory. (unless you call a 180Mhz an overclock...)

Will see if it's the memory or the Bios, but I'm disappointed so far.

[Tony]

ok guys im going to help you along as you are all trying to get clocks out of some of your dimms they just will not do.

First off the old 800 gold and the old 800 plat rev1 are Elpida based, they clock well async but not so good sync....so what does this mean.

1:1 you will see 350ish maybe 370, async on a good pair 500+

The plat rev2's are not Elpida based, being honest i have been told not to say what they are but I will say they are not micron either...please don't speculate as I ain't going to tell and they are all OCZ branded.
The plat rev2's will do 1:1 better than the older rev1's, some are doing 430 to 450...many do 400+ with ease.

Now, im seeing peeps buying rev1's and RMAing for rev2's...please buy what you want in the first instance, knowingly buying a product for an upgrade from us will only have us cutting support back. We have supported many users who were having serious issues as many of the boards had very immature bios files, these files are now getting better and 1:1 is improving a little...this means you may RMA 800golds and get the same ram back...

So if you want to buy OCZ and you want 1:1 of 400fsb+ then the plat rev2's are what you want...OR look at the other modules in the plat range that are Micron based. If you are happy with the upclock ratio's the the golds will do you just fine ;)

Also we found why 4x512 will work better than 2x1024...chip selsect....some boards are not doing it so well ;)

Finally if you want monster 1:1, VX2, the new 8500 or the 8000GEEK, 7200EPP...all high yield micron...

[linflas]

So if you want to buy OCZ and you want 1:1 of 400fsb+ then the plat rev2's are what you want...OR look at the other modules in the plat range that are Micron based.

The rev 2 would not go anywhere near 1:1 on a FSB of 400 for me, well it would boot to windows, but completely unstable.

I had to return your RAM and get the G-Skill HZ to acheive this stabaly, so my experience with the revision 2, stay the hell away from it also, go with the good micron based stuff, and you will be hassle free.

[Tony]

The rev 2 would not go anywhere near 1:1 on a FSB of 400 for me, well it would boot to windows, but completely unstable.

I had to return your RAM and get the G-Skill HZ to acheive this stabaly, so my experience with the revision 2, stay the hell away from it also, go with the good micron based stuff, and you will be hassle free. I just told you what dimms are mircon based...and you choose to run Gskill???

I have tested the plat rev2's to well over 450, most of the issues are still bios related as to why users are not seeing high clocks with them.

Micron is super tollerant to tight timings the board covertly set...I suggest all users should set timings in windows and clock up in windows also to see if the bios is the limitation.

[WesM63]

Tony,
I agree 100% on this statement. I will say I didn't know this was the case with mine until you and other OCZ employees told me so.


Now, im seeing peeps buying rev1's and RMAing for rev2's...please buy what you want in the first instance, knowingly buying a product for an upgrade from us will only have us cutting support back. We have supported many users who were having serious issues as many of the boards had very immature bios files, these files are now getting better and 1:1 is improving a little...this means you may RMA 800golds and get the same ram back...

Don't screw up OCZ great support by doing this guys.

[idiotec]

Well I guess I am lucky, my rev1's will do 400FSB+ 1:1 without problems. But I have to say, if they didn't, I would be RMA'ing as well. I do not see why PC6400 RAM not being able to run 400FSB 1:1 should be acceptable?

Not trying to flame, and I really appreciate the fact that an OCZ rep participates in this forum to help out their customers.

Just my $0.02 ;)

[Fred_Pohl]

Well I guess I am lucky, my rev1's will do 400FSB+ 1:1 without problems. But I have to say, if they didn't, I would be RMA'ing as well. I do not see why PC6400 RAM not being able to run 400FSB 1:1 should be acceptable?

Not trying to flame, and I really appreciate the fact that an OCZ rep participates in this forum to help out their customers.

Just my $0.02 ;)

I agree on both counts. I bought PC6400 rated to run 4-5-4-15 @2.1V and no where was it mentioned that it only works in async mode. If it had been, I would have bought different ram. Now I have to wonder whether my borderline stability with Orthos large FFTs is being caused by this Rev. 1. Time for more testing. :(

Edit: Testing completed. My OCZ ram is fine. It's my E6400 that doesn't want to do 3.2GHz without a big Vcore boost. The ram is rated 4-5-4-15 @2.1V but does 4-4-4-12 @2.0V. I can't complain for the price.

[linflas]

I just told you what dimms are mircon based...and you choose to run Gskill???


Yes I did, as I did not find your support too helpful in my case.

I am speaking of my experience, I know from reading your post's on these forums, that you are nothing but helpful, and I wish the OCZ I bought had been out of the box stable at the FSB I wanted to run. Unfortunately it was not.

I went with the G.Skill because many people in this forum had had great luck with it, and I was able to acheive the speeds I wanted out of the box without adjustment.

I come to these forums to learn, so I do not have to tinker with my system for days and weeks on end to gain stability. I like getting a little more out of my system then what I paid for, but I do not like spending all my time tinkering to acheive stability.

I want to use my computer for what I bought it for, encoding, gaming, and general use, not spend all my time trying to tweak it, I have little enough free time to do what I like to do, I do not want it occupied with the hassle of stabalizing something.

This is just my opinion on the subject.

[badboy]

Mine runs perfectly at 412mhz fsb at 4,5,4,15 at 2.1v and passes all ortho tests with flying colors. After I managed to figure out what I needed to do on my own to get it to work in this motherboard. This is the Rev.1 memory. Well I got the go to bed now. Later.
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=114749

[Alex08]

ok so I read this whole thread twice(actually skimmed I guess). Can someone specify the difference AGAIN between the rev. 1 and rev 2 platinum xtc 6400 EL's?

Do I have to pop open cpu-z and look at the spd timings, or can I tell by physically looking at the heatspreaders.

The SPD timings on the sticker of the heatspreader says: 4-5-4-15.

i've had pretty good luck so far i believe compared some users.

using a DS3 and e6300. i was able to achieve 450 or ddr900 1:1 using 2.3v. But my timings were 5-5-5, i did not try 4-4-4. I haven't tried using a lower voltage or higher fsb. I just wanted to pop the memory in, while I had a chance to use the board and chip. But I was able to sp2004 large ftt's for 6hrs before I had to give it back.

Anyways, are these rev 1 or 2?

[wwwww]

My 4200's can get up to around 400MHz benchable (not fully stable though) with two sticks. With 4 sticks I can't get it stable at default speeds.

[Fred_Pohl]

Rev. 1 is rated 4-5-4-15 and Rev. 2 is 4-4-4-12. Rev. 1 uses Elpida chips and OCZ isn't saying what chips are on Rev. 2.

[Alex08]

Rev. 1 is rated 4-5-4-15 and Rev. 2 is 4-4-4-12. Rev. 1 uses Elpida chips and OCZ isn't saying what chips are on Rev. 2.

this is written on the sticker on the heatspreader? correct?

[Sumanji]

I do not see why PC6400 RAM not being able to run 400FSB 1:1 should be acceptable?

Too right... running the RAM async puts less stress on it right? So how can you rate RAM for 400MHz, if it can't actually cope with a 400MHz FSB?!

If they can only do 350MHz ish, maybe they should be rebranded as DDR2-700 :stick:

[mackanz]

Too right... running the RAM async puts less stress on it right? So how can you rate RAM for 400MHz, if it can't actually cope with a 400MHz FSB?!

If they can only do 350MHz ish, maybe they should be rebranded as DDR2-700 :stick:

You know, there are more dividers than that. Some boards only have upclocking dividers.

[Brahmzy]

Too right... running the RAM async puts less stress on it right? So how can you rate RAM for 400MHz, if it can't actually cope with a 400MHz FSB?!

If they can only do 350MHz ish, maybe they should be rebranded as DDR2-700 :stick:

Good question! Somebody in a previous thread said to buy the rev. 2 stuff if you plan on running it at 1:1 400FSB. Huh?!?!?

If the rev. 1 stuff can't do that, that's false advertising! They should have said "* only runs 400FSB at lower dividers." And on that note, why does OCZ advertise this "EL" stuff at 4-5-4-15 when ALL SPD ratings for it are 5-5-5-15 ?? I have NEVER been able to POST running it at 4-5-4-15 even at low FSB. I can't POST @ 5-5-5-15. I can only POST @ "SPD AUTO" or 5-6-6-18. This is on 2 different mobos.

I am in no way trying to abuse OCZ's RMA, I'm just trying to get RAM results as advertised. I honestly think I got some bad sticks. Again, these things fail Orthos Large FFT's and memtest at any speed, any voltage. I even removed one DIMM, swapped 'em etc. No help.

Corsair XMS2 5-5-5-15? No problem. Works great.

[linflas]

brahmzy, not just you, I had the same problem, I could get it to prime at the crap timings though

[Tony]

1:1 seems to be more board and chipset specific than ram specific...the issue seems to lie in the bios files are covertly setting timings tighter as you clcok the fsb higher. Micron dimms tollerate this quite well and allow for high fsb's...other IC's respond differently and as such clock differently.

A huge chunk of your issues are you are all expecting 500fsb from boards with ram at ubber tight timings 1:1 and the truth is most boards will not do it, they have not been designed to do it!!!

2/3rds of the boards I have here are mediocre overclockers, bios files are being tweaked to get them working 70% or so, but what we need is a board purely designed to clock the dimms well and then we will all get the performance we want from our ram.Until then we need to apreciate 400fsb 1:1 in not the normal way of running a conroe...its the way we all want to do it but it is straining the boards and it will cause issues.

Think back to pre DFI Ultra D...300+ 1:1 was a real rare, soon as the board was lanched 80% of people who tried for 300 were hitting it, even with ram that did 280 on other boards ;) so you see as soon as the real cloking boards come out we will see much more complaint performance from our dimms.

[linflas]

@Tony, damn, and I just spent $300 on a motherboard

LOL, seriously though, I am happy with the 400 @ 1:1 I have now with the G-Skill, who can complain about a 50% overclock, I certainly cannot.

[Sumanji]

1:1 seems to be more board and chipset specific than ram specific...the issue seems to lie in the bios files are covertly setting timings tighter as you clcok the fsb higher.

That sucks :( why would they do that?! Surely they want to loosen the timings to let us hit higher clocks! Or at least keep them the same.

Silly mobo makers :stick:

[Ruhnie]

Well I think I've just about had it with this memory. It took me a week just to be able to find stable settings with it to run STOCK. I was allowing the BIOS to set it by SPD @ 5-5-5-15, and I set the vdimm to 2.0v. With that setting, Orthos would crash in under 5 minutes. I manually set the timings to 4-5-4-15 and left the vdimm at 2.0v, and Orthos and Memtest both ran fine for half an hour.

So then I decide to try a mild overclock. I pushed my fsb to 300, and the mem multiplier to 2.5, so my ram would run at 750MHz. I manually set the vcore to remain at 1.325v. Orthos crashed after 5 seconds, and the computer rebooted and reset some BIOS stuff to default settings. Wtf?! Is it going to be worth the headache to make this work, or should I just RMA and eat the 15% restocking fee? Aaarrrghh...

[badboy]

I must be one of the lucky one who has the Rev.1 OCZ memory and can do 412mhz fsb easily on my DS3 with memory at 4,5,4,15 at 2.1v. It even did a cold boot after 2 days of not running because I was testing testing another motherboard. It booted right up after I high then power button. Do I need to show my CPU-Z validation again. I run this 24/7 without any problems at all. It passes all ortho tests and I been folding with it since I put back together last night.
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=116674

[badboy]

Good question! Somebody in a previous thread said to buy the rev. 2 stuff if you plan on running it at 1:1 400FSB. Huh?!?!?

If the rev. 1 stuff can't do that, that's false advertising! They should have said "* only runs 400FSB at lower dividers." And on that note, why does OCZ advertise this "EL" stuff at 4-5-4-15 when ALL SPD ratings for it are 5-5-5-15 ?? I have NEVER been able to POST running it at 4-5-4-15 even at low FSB. I can't POST @ 5-5-5-15. I can only POST @ "SPD AUTO" or 5-6-6-18. This is on 2 different mobos.

I am in no way trying to abuse OCZ's RMA, I'm just trying to get RAM results as advertised. I honestly think I got some bad sticks. Again, these things fail Orthos Large FFT's and memtest at any speed, any voltage. I even removed one DIMM, swapped 'em etc. No help.

Corsair XMS2 5-5-5-15? No problem. Works great.
412mhz 1:1 here. Check my post above this for CPU-Z validation.

[Brahmzy]

Well my rev. 2 sticks will be here tomorrow. :)

OCZ definitely hooked me up on the RMA, I just hope these work better, and I hope I get my $50 rebate.

[Brahmzy]

412mhz 1:1 here. Check my post above this for CPU-Z validation.

Can you pass both memtest86+ and Orthos Large FFT's at the speed?

[badboy]

Can you pass both memtest86+ and Orthos Large FFT's at the speed?
Yes I can. Plus all games, benchmarks all day long. 3DMark scores posted below.

[Brahmzy]

Yes I can. Plus all games, benchmarks all day long.
Nice, sounds like you got a good set. :)

[Ruhnie]

I must be one of the lucky one who has the Rev.1 OCZ memory and can do 412mhz fsb easily on my DS3 with memory at 4,5,4,15 at 2.1v. It even did a cold boot after 2 days of not running because I was testing testing another motherboard. It booted right up after I high then power button. Do I need to show my CPU-Z validation again. I run this 24/7 without any problems at all. It passes all ortho tests and I been folding with it since I put back together last night.
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=116674

Just curious about a few of your BIOS settings. What do you have your PCI frequency set to? Did you set the vcore manually or leave it on normal? What do you have the memory enhancement on, normal or fast? Thanks for any help you can give me there :)

[norse]

How often do they update the RMA on their website? They have not acknowledged my package yet on their site, they should have gotten it a couple of days ago.... Just wondering how it worked for those of you that did have to go their RMA route. I sent back OCZ2G8002GK because they wouldn't boot with ANY settings on my ds3. This corsair 667 is running @ 474 completely stable, so those sticks of mine were either bad, or the new revision (which I'm sure I won't get back) is what I needed :\.

[Fred_Pohl]

Can you pass both memtest86+ and Orthos Large FFT's at the speed?

I also have the same 2x1GB OCZ ELP-XTC kit as Badboy and my pair does DDR800 @4-4-4-12 with 2.0V and post in dual-channel everytime on the DS3 at 1.8V (spd). The problems I had with Orthos large FFTs turned out to be a matter of Vcore, not ram. My OCZ ram can do 400fsb at 1:1 without issue but my E6400 needs 1.475Vcore to do it compared to 1.35V at 3GHz.

[badboy]

Just curious about a few of your BIOS settings. What do you have your PCI frequency set to? Did you set the vcore manually or leave it on normal? What do you have the memory enhancement on, normal or fast? Thanks for any help you can give me there :)
PCI fregquency is at 105, v-core is at 1.475 and memory is at normal.

[Vric]

I will wait for bios update. This OCZ memory is life time warranted anyway. If I find out the problem isn't solved with future bios update, I might consider RMA. For now it work with 2:3 ratio and is "barely stable" with 4:5 (completely unstable at 1:1)... Will wait and see.

[Ruhnie]

PCI fregquency is at 105, v-core is at 1.475 and memory is at normal.

Cool, thanks.

I will wait for bios update. This OCZ memory is life time warranted anyway. If I find out the problem isn't solved with future bios update, I might consider RMA. For now it work with 2:3 ratio and is "barely stable" with 4:5 (completely unstable at 1:1)... Will wait and see.

You know, I hadn't thought of that, but it's a good idea. Instead of eating the 15% restocking fee with Newegg, we can just RMA with OCZ later if need be, huh?

[Vric]

I used RMA with OCZ only once (and I'm using OCZ for the last 6 years or so)

It was some DDR PC3700 Rev 1 that I had for about 2 years and that wouldn't work on a newly P5LD1. They exchanged them for Rev3. Witting 3 days I had new working memory.

That was the only time I had problem with OCZ memory. So yes, if the memory can run, it's better to wait and see. If in few month I still can't use 1:1, then I will RMA.

[RyderOCZ]

We need someone with an Oscilliscope to test the 1:1 divider on a board....I have a suspicion that on some of these boards... 1:1 is closer to 1:1.2.

Hopefully testing this afternoon, but no scope :(

[Vric]

We need someone with an Oscilliscope to test the 1:1 divider on a board....I have a suspicion that on some of these boards... 1:1 is closer to 1:1.2.


Even if it's true, that wouldn't explain why I can't run them at 300 FSB 1:1. But 320 FSB 4:5 is fine. (300 FSB 4:5 fail)

I love strange problems :p:

[Yourself]

Even if it's true, that wouldn't explain why I can't run them at 300 FSB 1:1. But 320 FSB 4:5 is fine. (300 FSB 4:5 fail)

I love strange problems :p:


It would explain a lot on my DS3 board as I can't run 400 FSB(1:1) at anything lower than 5-5-5 without Prime and Memtest errors. 400 at 1:1.2 would be 960...lol

I look forward to an update Ryder....

[Brahmzy]

!WOOT!
I got my OCZ Platinum EL XTC Rev. 2 6400 sticks this morning (RMA for my Rev. 1 sticks)
WOW is all I can say. They are SO much better than the rev. 1 stuff.
For the first time on the P5W DH I was able to set manual timings! I couldn't even POST with my Rev. 1 stuff if it wasn't set to SPD in the BIOS-which came out to 5-6-6-18.

I set 4-4-4-10 @ 378x9 @ 2.1VDIMM @ 1:1 and have been Large FFT Orthos stable all friggin' day! I haven't tried any lower timings than those, BTW.

This RAM rocks and OCZ really took care of me. They FedEx overnighted this stuff out to me.

They have won back a customer. Thanks OCZ!
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/9056/ocz2sig5.jpg

[rafaeldb]

!WOOT!
I got my OCZ Platinum EL XTC Rev. 2 6400 sticks this morning (RMA for my Rev. 1 sticks)
WOW is all I can say. They are SO much better than the rev. 1 stuff.
For the first time on the P5W DH I was able to set manual timings! I couldn't even POST with my Rev. 1 stuff if it wasn't set to SPD in the BIOS-which came out to 5-6-6-18.

I set 4-4-4-10 @ 378x9 @ 2.1VDIMM @ 1:1 and have been Large FFT Orthos stable all friggin' day! I haven't tried any lower timings than those, BTW.

This RAM rocks and OCZ really took care of me. They FedEx overnighted this stuff out to me.

They have won back a customer. Thanks OCZ!
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/9056/ocz2sig5.jpg

you had to send the old one back to then first? Or they sent your the rev2 with a box ready for you to ship back the rev1?

I have the Rev1 but when i set the timing manualy my windows doent work or works way slower, 3dmark06 goes from 6225 to 5200.

One question how you guys change the divider? Just changing the mem to 667 or 553 or theres another trick?

Rafael

[norse]

!WOOT!
I got my OCZ Platinum EL XTC Rev. 2 6400 sticks this morning (RMA for my Rev. 1 sticks)
WOW is all I can say. They are SO much better than the rev. 1 stuff.
For the first time on the P5W DH I was able to set manual timings! I couldn't even POST with my Rev. 1 stuff if it wasn't set to SPD in the BIOS-which came out to 5-6-6-18.

I set 4-4-4-10 @ 378x9 @ 2.1VDIMM @ 1:1 and have been Large FFT Orthos stable all friggin' day! I haven't tried any lower timings than those, BTW.

This RAM rocks and OCZ really took care of me. They FedEx overnighted this stuff out to me.

They have won back a customer. Thanks OCZ!


Lucky :\ I know I'll just get the same unworking model back :(

[crspyjohn]

My Rev. 1 running at 4-4-4-12 2vc - 3 hour stable orthos (anytest)

e6300 2.8ghz, 400x7. All i can say is keep trying to overclock even if it fails the first time. I spent all day today and it wouldn't break the 350 but after 50 tries it did and ran stable.

[ncage1974]

Well i have rev 1 Platinum XTC right now (1gb x 2) that are still in the package and after reading all the post on this board about people having trouble i decided i wasn't going to take a chance and they are on ebay. I decided to get a pair of g.skill hz stuff. It was quite a bit more but with all the luck people are having with these sticks i think its worth it. Im supposed to get everything tomorrow :D

[crspyjohn]

Has anyone been able to run with this ram over 400? My ram gets errors and my cpu freezes. I know i need to increase more voltage. Any advice on the memory?

running at 4-4-4-12 - 2v

Could i go to 2.1v with this timings?

[badboy]

Has anyone been able to run with this ram over 400? My ram gets errors and my cpu freezes. I know i need to increase more voltage. Any advice on the memory?

running at 4-4-4-12 - 2v

Could i go to 2.1v with this timings?
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=117073
Passes all Ortho tests. Setup below. Yes try 2.1v.

[Fred_Pohl]

I'm really baffled by all the troubles a few people are having with this OCZ Platinum Rev.1 and the resulting FUD going around. Mine boots right up in dual channel at 1.8V and is Prime, Orthos and Memtest stable at 1:1/400/4-4-4-12 with 2.0V, 1:1/425/4-5-4-15 with 2.1V and 4:5/470/5-5-5-15 with 2.1V. I wish I had a better cpu to see what this $130 ram can really do. It's not Micron, but at half the cost, I can live with it. :)

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/8053/cpuzddr940mr6.jpg

[aggybong]

It's mostly on P5B-Deluxe boards, not DS3s.

[Brahmzy]

you had to send the old one back to then first? Or they sent your the rev2 with a box ready for you to ship back the rev1?

I have the Rev1 but when i set the timing manualy my windows doent work or works way slower, 3dmark06 goes from 6225 to 5200.

One question how you guys change the divider? Just changing the mem to 667 or 553 or theres another trick?

Rafael
Funny, I just tried this out--

In 3DMark05:
10853 4-4-4-12 (manually set)

11158 5-6-6-18 (SPD)

Weird...yet my Super Pi times are higher with tighter timings. Wonder why the 3DMark tests suffer from tighter timings?

[Ruhnie]

I'm really baffled by all the troubles a few people are having with this OCZ Platinum Rev.1 and the resulting FUD going around. Mine boots right up in dual channel at 1.8V and is Prime, Orthos and Memtest stable at 1:1/400/4-4-4-12 with 2.0V, 1:1/425/4-5-4-15 with 2.1V and 4:5/470/5-5-5-15 with 2.1V. I wish I had a better cpu to see what this $130 ram can really do. It's not Micron, but at half the cost, I can live with it. :)

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/8053/cpuzddr940mr6.jpg

Well I finally gave up and bought some Corsair from Fry's yesterday. I can't OC much because I'm using the stock HSF, but I have yet to get a memtest or Orthos error. I wish I had never bought the OCZ, now I have to eat 15% to RMA it. Grr.

[ownage]

Ok, so wich board is the best to choose if u have the OCZ2P800R22GK rev2 2gb kit?
I RMA'd my board and have to choose a compatible board.
I like the P5B-deluxe, but thats not a good choice for this ram, isnt it?

[aggybong]

Rev2 is supposed to work much better than Rev1s on the P5B-Deluxe.

[Brahmzy]

Rev 2's the bomb. I'd still think about some Corsair too though.

[KJatl]

My first set of Rev 1's (2x1gb) were bad, RMA'd and got Rev 1 again but now I'm running 24/7 at 430fsb 1:1 and at rated 4-5-4-15 speeds. I haven't even pushed it to find my max stable FSB. I might try to hit 450 today...

[badboy]

I got mine running at 412mhz from 426mhz now with 2x1gb Patriot pc6400 also. Timings stayed the as before. 4,5,4,15 2.2v.
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=119660

[ROcHE]

Can I expect at least 450 from PC6400 gold (OCZ2G8002GK) ?

[The_Hardstylez]

Can I expect at least 450 from PC6400 gold (OCZ2G8002GK) ?

The only thing what you can expect is 400Mhz.. :p: Every stick is different and it is hard to say you get up to 450mhz.

[colfin22]

I've mine runnin 4:5 445mhz @ 5-5-5-15 2.05V
Cant tighten timings at all tho
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/3853/ramrx4.th.jpg (http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ramrx4.jpg)

[Tony]

Funny, I just tried this out--

In 3DMark05:
10853 4-4-4-12 (manually set)

11158 5-6-6-18 (SPD)

Weird...yet my Super Pi times are higher with tighter timings. Wonder why the 3DMark tests suffer from tighter timings?

SPD is 5-5-5-15 mate....leaving auto is setting those timings manually in bios without you knowing, they look to be setting a bunch of other timings also that boost the performance even with the slacker main latencies.

[Dave338]

Hi all, a bit late but I'll comment my results, hehe XDDDD

I purchased a kit of platXTC rev1 that came with a bad module (the other worked well at is rated specs). This week I have received a new RMA pair, and yesterday I tested quickly.

The modules booted ok at 1,9v ddr533 4-5-4 with ram multiplier=2 in my DS3 (F7 BIOS). I pushed the vram to 2.0v and multiplier to 2,5 (DDR667) and no boot. Upped vram to 2,2v and no go.... :( Then I raised multiplier to 3 and... VOILA!!!! Boot and enter windows correctly, so is a divider issue, probably in the chipset not in the ram so the ram works correctly at 667 but with 2 multiplier at FSB333.

When I was at ddr800 i lowered vdimm to 2,0v and tested a bit of overclock at stock timings.

Finally at ddr860 orthos crashed after 1h 8m at 2,0v so I think is stable up to 850 with these settings, so well for me. I'll test with 2,1v at 4-5-4 and 4-4-4 to see what's the better config. I "only" want 400x8 so I'm happy with this memory running OK at stocks :):)

salu2.

[Lizardus]

this ocz memory is crap IMO

I have this 2x1gb kit 6400 ocz platinum xtc rev.1, 4-5-4-15 2.1V and....n/c:
not stable in memtest windows version (4 noobs version, i don't have any floppy disk at the moment) and I only allocated 800MB per kit, set 4-5-4-15 manual timings and 2.1V and it's unstable (1-2 errors per 1 stick for 15mins testing)
higher voltage for memory (2.15-2.3V) is even worse (1 error for about 2mins), I tried 2.0V and this value is I think the best value, I have only 1 error per 1 stick for about 20mins testing)
I tried 5-5-5-15, 5-6-6-18 : any difference....

Only one positive is that I don't have any problem to post system,lol. (mobo 975x - asus p5w64)

PS. Sorry for my english
PS2. I bought this 2gb's kit from zipzoomfly.com in early August '06...now this memory is In Poland and RMA to USA is not good idea I think....
PS3. tested with 1:1 divider
PS4. system in sig
PS5. I tried in second channel (black slots), any difference...

[Dave338]

I havetested better my pair.

At 2,1v I have tested 2 hours of Orthos (with 1,6gb allocated) at DDR2-890.

At DDR900 crashed after an hour, so 890 is maximum for 4-5-4-15 at 2,1v

Finally yesterday tested at 4-4-4-15 at ddr2-820 and they are stable, so i'm using the 400x8 config at 4-4-4-15. It seems the best for my rig ;)

salu2.

[BigDisk]

Just a little notice if some people run into problems with those sticks...


Mine are stable at 1.9v on my P5W DH. 8x400 will error out at 2.2v, 2.1v, 2.05v, but it's totally stable at 1.9v.

Set everything to auto, fsb 266, ddr 800, spd, 1.9 volts and see how far it goes. Then push the voltage up one notch see if it helps... Works in my case.

Working in synch with FSB after that is a piece of case, the chipset doesn't have any problem (in my case). BIOS 1602 p5wdh, dram throttle off, hyperpath off

sometimes more voltage isn't better...

[andyOCZ]

BigDisk, as you say more voltage is not always bettere. I believe we had some memory ICs that were working better at lower voltages. They tested fine after assembly at the higher test voltage, but when overclocking they worked better at 1.9v. You may have one of those kits.

It's a good thing to remember to try low and high volts. You never know what might work for your specific kit.

[BigDisk]

BigDisk, as you say more voltage is not always bettere. I believe we had some memory ICs that were working better at lower voltages. They tested fine after assembly at the higher test voltage, but when overclocking they worked better at 1.9v. You may have one of those kits.

It's a good thing to remember to try low and high volts. You never know what might work for your specific kit.


Yup the sweet spot for mine is 1.95v it seems. I've got it to 430 MHz 2:3, my board will only handle 420 MHz fsb 1:1. I'm pretty sure the ram has even more in it !

[ingenue007]

i can hit 484 on my rev 2 ddr2 800 with 2.35 voltage.

[andyOCZ]

There you go, some like volts and some don't! :)

[Sumanji]

Anyone tried this RAM in an nF680i board yet?

Cheers,

Suman

[jeffyjaixx]

anyone get over 450 mhz FSB with the PLAT rev. 2 2x1GB modules 1:1 ratio?

Mine can boot at 474 1:1 but is not stable with orthos. I can't even boot at 500 mhz fsb 1:1

I have a gigabyte s3 965.

[Reinvented]

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1844652&postcount=13

That's 4GB's right there. 2.2v. Orthos stable for 14 hrs.

[Sumanji]

Sorry to resurrect this thread again, but has anybody tried Rev1 sticks on an nF680i board?

Thanks,

Suman

[mystupidmouth]

hmm my Tforce 965PT with OCZ2P8002GK wont run at 4-5-4-15 at 2:3 for some reason but it will run at 4-5-4-15 at 1:1 what gives? i might have to RMA these sticks

[andyOCZ]

hmm my Tforce 965PT with OCZ2P8002GK wont run at 4-5-4-15 at 2:3 for some reason but it will run at 4-5-4-15 at 1:1 what gives? i might have to RMA these sticks

Your memory doesn't control dividers, so your sticks are not bad. Do you have the latest BIOS for your board?

[mystupidmouth]

Yes im using the latest bios. It seems to only happen when my computer is at stock. If i overclock it and leave the memory at 800mhz it does the 4-5-4-15. At stock it does 3-5-4-15 what gives?

[andyOCZ]

Here are the specs for your memory:

800MHz DDR2
CL 4-5-4-15
(CAS-TRCD-TRP-TRAS)
Available in 512MB modules and 1GB (2x512MB) Dual Channel Optimized Kits
Unbuffered
Platinum Mirrored XTC Heatspreader*
Lifetime Warranty
2.1 Volts
240 Pin DIMM

Maybe I'm missing what the problem is? You say that they will run at 667mhz with 3-5-4-15 ?

[mystupidmouth]

Here are the specs for your memory:

800MHz DDR2
CL 4-5-4-15
(CAS-TRCD-TRP-TRAS)
Available in 512MB modules and 1GB (2x512MB) Dual Channel Optimized Kits
Unbuffered
Platinum Mirrored XTC Heatspreader*
Lifetime Warranty
2.1 Volts
240 Pin DIMM

Maybe I'm missing what the problem is? You say that they will run at 667mhz with 3-5-4-15 ?
Im running it at 800mhz but it wont run at 4-5-4-15. It shows as 3-5-4-15

[mystupidmouth]

Im running it at 800mhz but it wont run at 4-5-4-15. It shows as 3-5-4-15

any idea?

[VietOZ]

the rev 1 seems to like 2.2v and cas 4. I couldn't get it stable at 475 with anything more/less then 2.2v. But now I'm stable at 475 with 2.2v and 4-5-5-15(manual) or 4-5-5-19(SPD). Once I change anything different than that then my system would fail Orthos in ~10 minutes. I own 2 different sets (1 bought at Fry's and the other bought at newegg) and they both acted the same.I can hit 500 on both of them, actually one set can hit 505 .. but they are not stable at those speed. By stable I mean Orthos stable, I still can boot into windows.

[andyOCZ]

Im running it at 800mhz but it wont run at 4-5-4-15. It shows as 3-5-4-15


So you are setting CAS 4 in BIOS and in the OS it shows as CAS 3? What program are you using to check this? The memory would have no effect on that. Your BIOS would control setting changes, but for it to set CAS 3 would be extremely odd!

I would do a full reset of your BIOS and use CPU-z to check memory timings. Let me know what you find. I'll check back.

[z3r0_pt]

Hi, i have OCZ PC2-6400 PLATINUM EL XTC DC REV1 (2 x 1024) and ive already try it at 2 boards, p5wdh and ga-ds4, on my p5w i can only run at 400fsb, i cant do more but i think its board problem issue because i can run at 438fsb 1:1 with ds4 at 2.1v 4-4-4-12 orthos stable...

[RyderOCZ]

Hi, i have OCZ PC2-6400 PLATINUM EL XTC DC REV1 (2 x 1024) and ive already try it at 2 boards, p5wdh and ga-ds4, on my p5w i can only run at 400fsb, i cant do more but i think its board problem issue because i can run at 438fsb 1:1 with ds4 at 2.1v 4-4-4-12 orthos stable...Did you raise the MCH voltage on the P5W-DH?

[mystupidmouth]

So you are setting CAS 4 in BIOS and in the OS it shows as CAS 3? What program are you using to check this? The memory would have no effect on that. Your BIOS would control setting changes, but for it to set CAS 3 would be extremely odd!

I would do a full reset of your BIOS and use CPU-z to check memory timings. Let me know what you find. I'll check back.
I was using CPUZ and its still doing the same thing. Whats going on?

[RyderOCZ]

I was using CPUZ and its still doing the same thing. Whats going on?The bios is doing this, not the ram. If you set CAS 4 in the bios, but CAS 3 is coming out, something is wrong in the bios, not the ram resetting what you set.

Also, maybe the bios is reporting to CPU-z the wrong number. Are you using the latest CPU-z?

[mystupidmouth]

The bios is doing this, not the ram. If you set CAS 4 in the bios, but CAS 3 is coming out, something is wrong in the bios, not the ram resetting what you set.

Also, maybe the bios is reporting to CPU-z the wrong number. Are you using the latest CPU-z?
yes im using the latest.

[mystupidmouth]

ok now im having another problem. my OCZ2P8002GK isnt stable at 4-5-4-15 Testing it for some reason but 5-5-5-15 works fine. is there any way to get it RMA'd so i can run it at 4-5-4-15?

[andyOCZ]

We could give you an RMA, but I have a funny feeling it would be a waste of time and shipping expense for you.

I was trying to read up on your board and I noticed some overclocking problems. What voltage are you running your memory at? What is the max voltage in your BIOS? This sounds like it might be a voltage issue at this point. You may need 2.2v as I read that board measures low on the memory voltage off the memory sockets.
Let me know.

I was reading here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=110106&page=2

[mystupidmouth]

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[mystupidmouth]

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[RyderOCZ]

Mystupidmouth,

Are you the same guy as here?: http://www.bleedinedgesupport.com/ocz/forum/showthread.php?t=27422

Please, lets not have troubleshooting all over the internet.

You posted at the OCZ forum, lets get this handled over there.

Thanks

[pigDESTROY]

http://72.29.71.247/~turnjet/testbed.gif

What i've been getting with a E4300, P5N-E, OCZ XTC rev2 2GB PC6400.

All have been tested with Orthos Blend for 12hrs each.

I can hit 10,000 Mem Read too...

http://72.29.71.247/~turnjet/10,000read_S.gif (http://72.29.71.247/~turnjet/10,000read.gif)

[Tony]

gmcg


Your thread will not be removed from OCZ support, we don't do that unless we see it as a non post or spam.

Second, we use Micron DDR3 for our 1600 part, pretty much the same as everyone else. I know Corsair and Gskill use the same IC's.

Now DDR3 1600 does have a jedec spec yes, Micron don't make an official DDR3 1600 part but we can speed bin 1600mhz from lower speed parts, just like Corsair, Gskill, Mushkin, and everyone else does.

I know DDr3 1600 parts are now being released, we have them in our labs for test, we will release product based around it.

Regarding boards, manufacturers have to tune the board with what they have at the time of release, with regard to DDR1600+ this will have been done with re speed binned parts from Corsair, OCZ etc, this is why you have voltage adjustment in bios ;)

Also to hit 1600+ on the 790i you have to boot the board at 1600fsb, so Ryder was correct in what he was saying, you just took it that there was no option where we both know there is...BUT you have to work to see it.

Now as the dedicated 1600 parts become available we will move to them, boards will got thru bios updates to support them and we will all clock them to 2000+ MHZ

There is no scandal to be had here, if you want to talk techy talk to me and me only.

[gmcg]

Tony, I also don't want any scandals and therefore deleted my post.
Thanks.

[Tony]

gmcg

why did you delete your post and then repost it, my post now looks totally out of place and I will be forced to repost my post again here?

I do feel you have a good enough answer now and we are doing nothing different then any other ram manufacturer.

My response to you which now i have to repost here

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2906367&postcount=174

[gmcg]

gmcg

why did you delete your post and then repost it, my post now looks totally out of place and I will be forced to repost my post again here?

I do feel you have a good enough answer now and we are doing nothing different then any other ram manufacturer.

My response to you which now i have to repost here

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2906367&postcount=174

I didn't repost it, probably the moderator did - your erased post appeared somehow as well ... deleted mine again.
I completely disagree with you regarding other manufacturers though, just look at those results, for example:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=329903
I was not expecting to have such results from the OCZ DDR3-1600 memory, of course, but at least it had to work at the standard advertised settings.

I will post my Ballistix DDR3-2000 results a bit later, as soon as I will receive the memory. Want me to post here the Lavalys Everest read-write-copy results for DDR3 OCZ DDR3-1600 comparing to Balistix DDR2 PC 6400 as well?

[Tony]

I didn't repost it, probably the moderator did - your erased post appeared somehow as well ... deleted mine again.
I completely disagree with you regarding other manufacturers though, just look at those results, for example:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=329903
I was not expecting to have such results from the OCZ DDR3-1600 memory, of course, but at least it had to work at the standard advertised settings.

I will post my Ballistix DDR3-2000 results a bit later, as soon as I will receive the memory. Want me to post here the Lavalys Everest read-write-copy results for DDR3 OCZ DDR3-1600 comparing to Balistix DDR2 PC 6400 as well?

Let me show you what Crucial use for their DDR3 2000 modules, these are the same IC's we use and Corsair use and Cellshock use.

http://www.micron.com/products/partdetail.aspx?part=MT41J128M8HX-187E

you will note this is 1333 spec 128x8IC,s that are re speed binned for 1600 or 1800 or 2000 MHZ use.

Also here is the current shipping list for all micron ddr3...i don't see a 1600mhz part there

http://www.micron.com/products/dram/ddr3/partlist.aspx

[gmcg]

Let me show you what Crucial use for their DDR3 2000 modules, these are the same IC's we use and Corsair use and Cellshock use.
http://www.micron.com/products/partdetail.aspx?part=MT41J128M8HX-187E

you will note this is 1333 spec 128x8IC,s that are re speed binned for 1600 or 1800 or 2000 MHZ use.

Also here is the current shipping list for all micron ddr3...i don't see a 1600mhz part there
http://www.micron.com/products/dram/ddr3/partlist.aspx
http://techreport.com/r.x/nvidia-nforce-790i/overclock-fsb.jpg

I don't care if it is speed binned or which chips it uses if it will work stable at the advertised settings and give me better read-write-copy results with comparable latency to my old "updated" PC-6400 ... that's it. Ahh, yes - I want it in a linked sync mode, please.
Does it make sense?

[gmcg]

Let me show you what Crucial use for their DDR3 2000 modules, these are the same IC's we use and Corsair use and Cellshock use.

http://www.micron.com/products/partdetail.aspx?part=MT41J128M8HX-187E

Tony, and you tell me they use the same modules as you do for their memory? Just look at this picture - I haven't seriously over-clocked the CPU, it runs on AC instead of WC yet, while I am waiting for a new WC case. This is a memory, which runs absolutely stable at 8-8-8-24-1T@2000Mhz, still in the safe voltage limit at 2.0V being cold enough. :)
I couldn't run OCZ modules (DDR3-1600 ones) stable at 1600MHz even at 8-8-8-24-2T@1.95V :( ... how can the same chips perform SO DIFFERENTLY, what does Crucial use in it's memory modules, a magic dust or shaman's dances?

[gmcg]

Played with DDR3-2000 it just a little bit and I am impressed - still the same 2.0V and rock stable 8-7-6-20-1T@2000MHz ...

[RyderOCZ]

Gmcg....you needed to have an RMA...that is all. I have the same memory here and yes, I can run it near DDR3-2000.

The kit you received was substandard...do not judge that every kit of the memory you had will not reach the rated timings. It is that simple. OCZ has a lifetime warranty, all you had to do was give us the information and we would have replaced the kit.

Based on what you have posted, you are stating that there is no way the OCZ would perform to rated speeds. We guarantee them too, which is why you should have let us know and we would have made it right. Saying that no OCZ 1600 kit will run its rated timings is just not true, but that is what you seem to be stating simply because some other kit you bought clocks where it should.

[loonym]

OCZ support :up:

[gmcg]

Gmcg....you needed to have an RMA...that is all. I have the same memory here and yes, I can run it near DDR3-2000.

The kit you received was substandard...do not judge that every kit of the memory you had will not reach the rated timings. It is that simple. OCZ has a lifetime warranty, all you had to do was give us the information and we would have replaced the kit.

Based on what you have posted, you are stating that there is no way the OCZ would perform to rated speeds. We guarantee them too, which is why you should have let us know and we would have made it right. Saying that no OCZ 1600 kit will run its rated timings is just not true, but that is what you seem to be stating simply because some other kit you bought clocks where it should.

Makes sense. I was disappointed because of the response on newegg website, which is deleted there anyway.

I should definitely be talking about my particular kit, and I didn't mean all OCZ modules, some of them are awesome and the one I tried was just a basic inexpensive one.

Also now I understand that it might be not your module's problem, but 790i Ultra SLI's problem, because plenty of people report similar issues with Corsair memory, Patriot memory, etc.

[RyderOCZ]

Makes sense. I was disappointed because of the response on newegg website, which is deleted there anyway.http://www.newegg.com/product/ProductReview.aspx?item=N82E16820227256
Second review down seems to be yours...not sure what you mean by deleted :shrug:

[gmcg]

http://www.newegg.com/product/ProductReview.aspx?item=N82E16820227256
Second review down seems to be yours...not sure what you mean by deleted :shrug:

OK, the link was off while I checked last time, so it is not deleted :clap: