Fed up, starting over. Recommend mobo and ram. [Archive]

WesM63

08-20-2006, 07:34 PM

Ok, i'm done and fed up. I want a mobo and ram combo THAT WORKS! Not to mention something I can mount and Scythe Infinity on with NO issues and have it work correctly.

As long as its proven to work I don't care. Overclocking is a must, what else is a ES cpu good for?

So, recommend me a motherboard and 2x1gb of ram that'll work right. None of this dividers not working :banana::banana::banana::banana: with my OCZ ram. I just want to throw it together and have it work. I've messed around with this stuff long enough and i'm tired of it.

pcdoc1

08-20-2006, 07:36 PM

P5B Deluxe and G.Skill HZ's....

garnin

08-20-2006, 07:40 PM

I personally have a DS3 and it works great.

And for RAM, agree with pcdoc1, you can't go wrong with the G. Skill HZ's. They overclock great and every1 on this forum seems to be using either these or xtreems

Weedsqueezer

08-20-2006, 07:43 PM

dude, from our convo, try new ram. cheapest, quickest and easiest fix

[TAG]Imp

08-20-2006, 07:45 PM

P5B Deluxe and G.Skill HZ's....
QFT

mdzcpa

08-20-2006, 07:59 PM

Bad Axe and Patriot. Like ice cream and apple pie :)

aggybong

08-20-2006, 08:03 PM

Who has the G.Skill HZs for a reasonable price? I think it's the OCZ ram causing problems, not the motherboards.

shine121

08-20-2006, 08:11 PM

asus ws-pro and g.skill HZs

Haltech

08-20-2006, 08:17 PM

Team Xtreme 667 3,3,3, ram Wes.

aggybong

08-20-2006, 08:19 PM

Is there any ram in the $200~ range? And by $200 I mean $200 and below for 2GB :P I'm not looking for massive overclocks, but something that could hit 450mhz at decent timings would be nice.

pcdoc1

08-20-2006, 08:25 PM

Ot:

Haltech

08-20-2006, 08:30 PM

Is there any ram in the $200~ range? And by $200 I mean $200 and below for 2GB :P I'm not looking for massive overclocks, but something that could hit 450mhz at decent timings would be nice.

You should make a new post somewhere instead of hijacking someone else's thread.:slap:

aggybong

08-20-2006, 08:34 PM

Well hey, it could help him too :p I have the same ram as him and I also want to get rid of it :(

pcdoc1

08-20-2006, 08:43 PM

Well hey, it could help him too :p I have the same ram as him and I also want to get rid of it :(Maybe you could start with reading the forum rules... And then go shopping.

aggybong

08-20-2006, 08:49 PM

I did and I didn't really see anything regarding this, but ok.

Psitech

08-20-2006, 09:13 PM

The Scythe Infinity won't fit/work properly on the P5W DH? I just got my board and was thinking about getting that cooler.

WesM63

08-20-2006, 09:18 PM

no worries aggy. I rma'd my OCZ stuff and still having the same problem with the new sticks. Tony said I was supposed to get rev2 back? I looked and didn't see anything that said "rev2" on the ram.

I'm just tired of messing with this system.

Mike,
I for some reason have a hatred for Intel boards, i'll look into the ram. Thanks bud :)

Haltech,
I looked into it, price has went up quite a bit.

Ya know, when i first put this system together, my first instinct was the gskill HZ's.. I knew I shoulda went with it.

Psitech,
It does with some modifications. You have to grind about 3mm off the one side to clear the caps. I did that and I'm still running 70c dual prime with 1.5v.

Lestat

08-20-2006, 09:20 PM

those platinums and that P5W DH .... both worthy of the Hall of shame.

seriously though get rid of those platinums and the mobo. (which is what your doing lol)

P5B and some HZ's maybe ?
id be damned leary of the P5B there are far more people having issues then people getting very high FSB.

zoob

08-20-2006, 09:20 PM

It'll say something like OCZ2P800R22GK where your original kit doesn't have "R2". I am using Rev 1s until the store I bought them from gets Rev 2 in stock hehe.

AndrewZorn

08-20-2006, 09:46 PM

id just keep your mobo and try new ram first, if that doesnt work out THEN new mobo

gskill HZ or team group 3-3-3-8 667. same thing basically

WesM63

08-20-2006, 09:52 PM

I think i'll grab the Gskill HZ and give it a shot. Unless the Team stuff is better.. and worth the extra $30.

thunderstruck!

08-20-2006, 10:08 PM

Why is aggy being picked on? Another vote for Gskill HZ!

burningrave101

08-20-2006, 10:11 PM

I would try the new Rev 2 OCZ Platinum sticks before you buy anything else. The older Rev 1 sticks do not have have very good compatibility. I have the new Rev 2 sticks and they work much better with my AB9 Pro. It's a shame this board still has overclocking issues and can't even run dual channel for me or i could find out what the max these sticks will clock. I'll have an Asus P5WGS-WS Pro here later this week and i may be switching to that.

AndrewZorn

08-20-2006, 10:26 PM

if the HZ is cheaper then yeah
i mean theyre both high quality D9 right
youre looking at luck of the draw, not brand/model

WesM63

08-20-2006, 10:29 PM

burningrave101

08-21-2006, 06:32 AM

burninggrave,
As i said in a few posts in this thread. I'm tired of it not working and waiting. I waited almost a month to get the RMA back. Not really anything against OCZ, but if they new the Rev1 had issues why didn't they just send me Rev2 or take Rev1 off the market?

Contact Jimmy at OCZ and have him set you up with an advanced RMA for the Rev2 sticks. I got mine within like a week so it certainly shouldn't take a month.

jhoun@ocz.com

Shpoon

08-21-2006, 09:12 AM

How is this going to work then? So many people will just buy R1 sticks, then get them RMAd for R2 claiming problems...

gundersausage

08-21-2006, 09:30 AM

Ds3 & Hz

berk

08-21-2006, 09:52 AM

P5B and Corsair 6400C3.
It'll cost you a bomb and the Team Groups 667 8-3-3-3 is amazing RAM..but if you want that bit extra...;)

topboy

08-21-2006, 09:54 AM

I would stay well clear of OCZ, Asus, Gigabyte.

Gskill and the Bad Axe gets my vote

Lestat

08-21-2006, 09:59 AM

Ds3 & Hz

although i would agree with that combo under normal circumstances.
the HZ and the DS3 have issues, along with the TG ram and some other D9 stuff.

there is a growing number of people who cant get over 950mhz no matter what is done with this board and this ram.

Gunder are you able to actually achieve higher than 950mhz dram freq. with your board and the hz's ?
i cant think of anyone ATM that has.

so its pretty much a waste to go with such high overclocking ram.

the gskill 6400 ZX ram does the same thing except on top of not breaking 950mhz it wont even boot since it requires more voltage to boot.
funny the zx wont even boot and the hz's will and the hz's are the far superior ram.

RacerX

08-21-2006, 10:06 AM

I've been testing a DS3 with both GSkill HZ and TeamXtreem and the latter is much better stuff. That being said I think the DS3 is a slow board compared to my MSI 975X, tested both with a 6400 and the MSI 200mhz less OC. If I had a 6600 or higher Conroe I would opt for a 975 chipset.

aamsel

08-21-2006, 10:36 AM

Not a hijack attempt, but where is the HZ available instock right now. Reply or please PM me.

Thanks, and sorry to interrupt.

Andrew

Why is aggy being picked on? Another vote for Gskill HZ!

mackanz

08-21-2006, 10:54 AM

Contact Jimmy at OCZ and have him set you up with an advanced RMA for the Rev2 sticks. I got mine within like a week so it certainly shouldn't take a month.

Even if he changed your set doesn't mean all gets changed. We do test each kit that comes in just like everybody else do. I would suggest you edit your post and take the email adress away.

Lestat

08-21-2006, 10:56 AM

im not sure where your from but if you actually went to some online Etailers you would see..
took me less than 1min to find several who have it listed as instock

Lestat

08-21-2006, 11:00 AM

Even if he changed your set doesn't mean all gets changed. We do test each kit that comes in just like everybody else do. I would suggest you edit your post and take the email adress away.

i wouldnt.

even though he should follow the proper channel and call tech support
all of you guys clearly list your emails either openly in threads or in your signature.
so why dont you remove your email from your sig.???

what do you mean "all doesnt get fixed"

WesM63

08-21-2006, 11:45 AM

Lestat

08-21-2006, 11:53 AM

Lestat,
Take it easy on marcus. Jimmy is another guy at OCZ and If OCZ doesn't want his email floating around then I would also suggest removing it.

I think he means, due to the nature of the problem, they may or may not replace the modules with rev2.

I'll say thanks again publically to OCZ, my problem was just resolved quickly and promptly. Thanks guys.

i know exactly who the ocz guys are but him asking someone to remove that email is kinda silly when everyone of them list their work email in their sig and openly provide it for people.
it was a rather redundant statement he made thats all.

but thats why i also mentioned he should follow the proper channel and contact tech support.

(im on the business support end of "tech support" have been for years.(im actually a distributor and support my VARs and Resellers all day long) so sometimes i forget on the consumer end,. to EVER get the email, the direct email of a support tech is a blessing. and a curse to the support tech, so for them to openly have their work emails listed is shocking to say the least, so when one of those tech's tells someone to not show it,, i laugh cuz they themselves show it with every post they make here, see my point ?)

menlatin

08-21-2006, 11:55 AM

here are my patriot 667 llk results. $160 after rebate and does ddr 1000 4-5-4-10 @ 2.1v

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=112415

gundersausage

08-21-2006, 11:57 AM

although i would agree with that combo under normal circumstances.
the HZ and the DS3 have issues, along with the TG ram and some other D9 stuff.

there is a growing number of people who cant get over 950mhz no matter what is done with this board and this ram.

Gunder are you able to actually achieve higher than 950mhz dram freq. with your board and the hz's ?
i cant think of anyone ATM that has.

so its pretty much a waste to go with such high overclocking ram.

I got the ram for RD600 when it appears, DS3 is a good cheap stop gap board until then

RyderOCZ

08-21-2006, 12:04 PM

i know exactly who the ocz guys are but him asking someone to remove that email is kinda silly when everyone of them list their work email in their sig and openly provide it for people.
it was a rather redundant statement he made thats all.

but thats why i also mentioned he should follow the proper channel and contact tech support.

(im on the business support end of "tech support" have been for years.(im actually a distributor and support my VARs and Resellers all day long) so sometimes i forget on the consumer end,. to EVER get the email, the direct email of a support tech is a blessing. and a curse to the support tech, so for them to openly have their work emails listed is shocking to say the least, so when one of those tech's tells someone to not show it,, i laugh cuz they themselves show it with every post they make here, see my point ?)1 thing though Lestat....Jimmy isn't a forum support tech, he doesn't post on the forums, generally. He is in house support at the office and handle's the RMA's. Having end user's emailing him directly, only slows down the process, if you follow me.

Not to mention that posting an email address correctly (i.e. using the @ symbol, etc) can lead to much unwanted spam because of bots crawling the forums. The links in our Sigs, hopefully prevent some of that (ha ha who am I kidding....I get tons of the crap)

Shpoon

08-21-2006, 12:14 PM

1 thing though Lestat....Jimmy isn't a forum support tech, he doesn't post on the forums, generally. He is in house support at the office and handle's the RMA's. Having end user's emailing him directly, only slows down the process, if you follow me.

Not to mention that posting an email address correctly (i.e. using the @ symbol, etc) can lead to much unwanted spam because of bots crawling the forums. The links in our Sigs, hopefully prevent some of that (ha ha who am I kidding....I get tons of the crap)

Ryder, quick question then....if I buy the OCZ R1 6400 Plats....and I find that they start giving me problems (ie, refusing to go as per spec when using a divider), can I rma them for R2s?

Seems like that'd be taking advantage of you guys, even if there were no problems :/

mackanz

08-21-2006, 12:26 PM

i know exactly who the ocz guys are but him asking someone to remove that email is kinda silly when everyone of them list their work email in their sig and openly provide it for people.
it was a rather redundant statement he made thats all.

but thats why i also mentioned he should follow the proper channel and contact tech support.

(im on the business support end of "tech support" have been for years.(im actually a distributor and support my VARs and Resellers all day long) so sometimes i forget on the consumer end,. to EVER get the email, the direct email of a support tech is a blessing. and a curse to the support tech, so for them to openly have their work emails listed is shocking to say the least, so when one of those tech's tells someone to not show it,, i laugh cuz they themselves show it with every post they make here, see my point ?)

It's not that the actual email itself is here, but it's something called spam and especially people that wants me to buy viagra 96 times a day. Yes, we do have our email in the signature, but it's "hidden" from emailbots.

Edit: Ryder was first.

dissident

08-21-2006, 12:38 PM

P5B Deluxe and the G.Skill HZ

The built in wifi works nice but I found you need to download the unsigned drivers online and not use the ones on the CD (even though they appear to be the same version), at least with the 64 bit version of windows. The ones on the CD cause the connection to cut randomly forcing a "repair" of it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231065

The above G.SKILL ram works with just about every conroe board out there.

Celcius

08-21-2006, 12:44 PM

Here's another vote for that G.Skill.:toast:

Sanborn

08-21-2006, 12:49 PM

Btrice

08-21-2006, 12:53 PM

Call me old fashioned but I don't have the heart to order from a company called G.Skill regardless of how it performs.

imo it sounds like "G's not gonna be around to support your product in 2 years"

Call me fickle, but its the truth.

I feel the same way about some of these products and the companies. Like "Team" memory. What team are you on? The company softball team? The overclocking team? Do you have uniforms? Did you win the division championship last year? No? Well why would I drop $300 on your product?

I realize companies come and go, but one of the reasons I went with OCZ was because they have pretty damn good customer service, MULTIPLE reps just on this forum alone.

v0dka

08-21-2006, 12:58 PM

WesM63

08-21-2006, 01:03 PM

aggybong

08-21-2006, 01:21 PM

Hopefully I'm that lucky, but so far I just keep being asked the same questions :(

mackanz

08-21-2006, 01:23 PM

OCZ fixed my problem today. I'm not going to give details, but I have a new set of ram on the way. This is one reason why I love OCZ tech support. I think I might of been a bit harsh on them at first.

For now i'm going to work with what i have and see how things go. I'll keep you all updated.

You where not harsh at all Wes. I'm totally on your side on this. Crap does happen sometimes and nobody can explain why. Moon alignment etc..you know. Anyway, enjoy your new 2X256 PC4200 ram :P

WesM63

08-21-2006, 01:54 PM

haha lol.. you almost had me there for a second. I was like wha!?!

fhpchris

08-21-2006, 02:11 PM

OCZ fixed my problem today. I'm not going to give details, but I have a new set of ram on the way. This is one reason why I love OCZ tech support. I think I might of been a bit harsh on them at first.

For now i'm going to work with what i have and see how things go. I'll keep you all updated.

OCZ easily gets an A+ for Tech Support and the RMA procedure and restrictions...

Mushkin gets a D-.

WesM63

08-24-2006, 08:36 PM

Well got a nice package in the mail from OCZ today (well it was actually here on tuesday, but no one was home to sign for it).

Popped these bad boys in and no problems what so ever! Big thanks to OCZ, after the mix up on my first RMA they got me sorted out and then some!

Now.. only if I can get my cooling issue resolved. :grr:

Haltech

08-24-2006, 09:22 PM

I feel the same way about some of these products and the companies. Like "Team" memory. What team are you on? The company softball team? The overclocking team? Do you have uniforms? Did you win the division championship last year? No? Well why would I drop $300 on your product?

I realize companies come and go, but one of the reasons I went with OCZ was because they have pretty damn good customer service, MULTIPLE reps just on this forum alone.

Ive just nominated you for the Newb Idiot Award:slap:

pcdoc1

08-24-2006, 09:27 PM

Ive just nominated you for the Newb Idiot Award:slap::bounces: :bounces:

aggybong

08-24-2006, 11:20 PM

That's good to hear, WesM63. I'm going to be shipping off my sticks tomorrow and I hope I have similar results :)

Kobalt

08-24-2006, 11:26 PM

You should make a new post somewhere instead of hijacking someone else's thread.:slap:

You should stop picking on him :slap: :D

Anyways, I'm glad you got your problem solved...its nice to know OCZ has such good tech support. What problems were you having though? Just dividers?

linflas

08-25-2006, 01:44 AM

Well wes, seems you got the patinum EL versions, and that works fine, lucky you

I had the rev. 2's of your previous RAM, and it blows goats, did not clock at all, and dividers, no way no how.

As for OCZ support, can't say I was too impressed. Your same call at the beginning, I just gave up on them and bought the G. Skill from newegg, and will send them back my OCZ crap when I get the new stuff this afternoon.

My first OCZ ram, they will not be the first place I look, that is for sure.

All I wanted was 1:1 @ a 400mhz FSB, and somewhat decent timings, no chance, am currently running @pc5300 @ 5-6-6-15 :slap: CRAPTACULAR!

So look forward to giving the G. Skill a shot, can't be any worse than what I have.

WesM63

08-25-2006, 09:19 AM

Kobalt,
Yes the ram wouldn't run rated timings using 4:3 divider. RMA'd the first set (Tony at OCZ told me too), got another set back and still had the same issue. I spoke to marcus and Jimmy at OCZ next, there was a mix up, they where supposed to send me Rev2 and did not. OCZ then pulled one out for me, overnighted a new better set because of the previous mix up.

OCZ tech support is great, sometimes you have to jump through hoops with company's and I don't blame them.

vintage_guitar

08-25-2006, 09:27 AM

pentium777

08-25-2006, 09:34 AM

Just to confirm with everyone and do a checkin, been testing for 3 days straight with Infinity Scythe. Friend built similar setup he's using 6700 & P5N32-SLI I'm using 6600 with P5W DH

Last night we matched ambient temps in room and closed case, only difference was him having slightly different airflow although we both use 120mm intake and exhaust, he has a Vanessa L-type HSF and I have the Infinity

@ 3.31 1.45v I was running 36'C idle / 55-57'C Orthos DC load
He was running 42-44'C idle / 63-65'C DC Load

When I crank up to 3.5 / 1.525v I'm running 44'C idle ambient temp 76.5'F when I DC load 100% I run 65-67'C

I have panaflow 70-90CFM can't remember exactly 120mm fans 1 intake, 1 exhaust, 1 blowing on 7900 SLI cards

The purpose of all of this is to show everyone that these conroe chips are really getting HOT fast when vcore is ramped up, I am able to boot at 3.8 and enter windows but failures occur unless I do 1.6v which I'm not going to do. Tested 3.6 @ 1.525 and fails in a few mins but single core will be fine. If I go up to 1.55v @ 3.6 DC seems stable but temps edging on 70'C unless I get room down to 71'F then it's about 68'C

3.5 & 1.525 is probably what I'm going to stick with though, machine is dramatically faster than my X2 4400+ @ 2.7G/2.8G and I've verified that even with 7900 GTX SLI cards and low res of 1280x1024 that after 3-3.3Ghz I was no longer CPU limiting the video cards and obviously after 1600x1200 it is more video bottlenecks than CPU.

Since my days of overclocking 8086 Tandy 1000A PCs (1985?) I have not been impressed this much with a CPU, I recall OC'ing P60-75 P100-120, P200-250 etc etc etc then those special Celeron 300As to 450 some of you will remember and then most recently my X2 4400+ 2.2-2.8Ghz I was impressed with that.

I am BLOWN away at 3.5Ghz dual core, it will be several months probably Q1 2007 before they have a CPU to buy @ 3.5ghz so I'll be happy until then I think. What puzzles me is having Quad Core coming out? How much benefit will that really have with the speed of these dual cores that we have now?

Btrice

08-25-2006, 09:40 AM

Ive just nominated you for the Newb Idiot Award:slap:

Thats good, so I can share the stage with you when you receive the childish-ubergeek award. I have to warn you though I am quite long winded with my acceptance speeches.

Oh and by the way good reaction time on that one :rolleyes: Its called comedy dip***. Of course I wouldn't expect somebody who finds fecal matter to be funny to get it.

ON topic though, this just continues to prove the quality of the OCZ company and their support. Good stuff.

Haltech

08-25-2006, 07:38 PM

Thats good, so I can share the stage with you when you receive the childish-ubergeek award. I have to warn you though I am quite long winded with my acceptance speeches.

Oh and by the way good reaction time on that one :rolleyes: Its called comedy dip***. Of course I wouldn't expect somebody who finds fecal matter to be funny to get it.

ON topic though, this just continues to prove the quality of the OCZ company and their support. Good stuff.

Check it out youngster...

Your reply was completely lame and off topic... Not to mention, your lameness spews from your pours if you have no idea who Team Xtreme ram is and how fast the modules are, especially for the price. I mean, you reap l33tness, esp considering you came over here from AT... Keep in mind, this isnt AT, this is XS and your BS wont be tolerated here.

OCZ, Gskill, and Team all have great support on these forums.. No need to talk smack about something you have no idea about.

Wes, sorry to get your post off topic with this but i had to tell the youngster a bedtime story.

WesM63

08-25-2006, 07:47 PM

Wes, sorry to get your post off topic with this but i had to tell the youngster a bedtime story.

:rofl: No Problem haltech.

runmc

08-25-2006, 08:10 PM

Btrice

08-26-2006, 08:22 AM

Haltech and Btrice -

There is no reason to flame and carry on like this in these forums. It doesn't matter what the reason is. Send each other a PM and work it out. :)

thanks

I'm glad you got your ram problem worked out Wes :cool:

I'm sorry, but I didn't initiate this BS and I'm not going to sit by and get treated in a condescending manner by some jerk who assumes I'm some punk kid just because I have only 100 posts. I'm probably 10 years older than him at least. (I've never heard anyone over 27 use the term "lame" in that context) I've read the rules and I apologize to YOU (and Wes) for calling him a dip****, but not to him.

He could have sent me a PM in the first place, especially since my comedic overreaction to show my agreement with Sandborns GSkill post had NOTHING to do with him, instead he wanted to be a typical forum-geek and start stuff here.
I've read the rules, but if the double-standard is in full force here, feel free to ban me immediately. I could care less. Thanks.