Video of my new 1100cfm case fan

[zakelwe]

As a pure air cooling guy who owns his own shed I have playing around with fans for a long time now as sound level is not an issue. I started off with 80mm Delta fans and although they did a good cfm of 80mm they only ever cooled the cpu and the area around the cpu.

I then went to a Papst 6212nm fan which is a 170mm fan with 200+ cfm off 12v dc. This is a fantastic fan, loud but not high pitched so more acceptable. It has served me well but the one problem was that although it could cool the cpu and motherboard and RAM it could not give good flow to two SLi video cards as well due to the size and large diameter of motor in the middle causing an area of low pressure. I could never angle it well enough for everything.

However I have now found a Papst fan that solves this problem completely ..the W2E250 280mm 1100cfm 230v fan. With it's larger diameter you do not have any problem cooling the whole of the motherboard and ancillaries. In fact it also cools down next doors tv as well.:rofl:

I'll be using it with a new Conroe rig and a tuniq tower this winter. As ambient gets down to -5C on average in the UK it should put up the best performance for air cooling for Conroe in the world ... er, probably ..

Here's the video. 80mm delta to the left, 170mm Papst 6212nm in the middle and the new Papst to the right. Sorry for the size, could not be bothered compressing it.

www.aocb77.dsl.pipex.com/fanny.wmv

Regards

Andy

PS Papst make the best PC fans in the world, could you have guessed ? :D

[J-Mag]

How loud is that beast? I can't hear it since I am at work (if the video had audio)...

[Magnj]

Wow, Next step...Jet Turbine

[syne_24]

jesus that thing is a beast! It'll probably cut your finger right off at that rpm. With all that pressure why dont you make a duct out of it? It would make a great cold air intake.



Edit: When's the last time you had a hearing test? :p:

[zakelwe]

jesus that thing is a beast! It'll probably cut your finger right off at that rpm. With all that turbulance why dont you make a duct out of it? It would make a great cold air intake.

On the blow side the blades are angled so that you do not get an edge and instead your digit will bounce off the face of the blade as it turns, so the result is a bad bruise rather than an amputation. I just tested it with my wifes finger and it was ok. Ok, I own up I actually used a carrot, my wife was busy on the phone ( again ! )

I will not think about the other side apart from it will probably dice and slice better than those items on the shopping channel that can make a rosette out of a boiled egg.

Regards

Andy

[Nullvoid]

Make sure and keep your case bolted to the floor or you'll have neighbours talking about a UFO they think they saw.

[OCFX]

Hahahaha very nice!

[[TAG]Imp]

holy crap!

[Cooper]

I guess it has metal body - it didn`t took off :D

[Larry]

What a beast sounds like a fog horn when it starts up and watch your fingers with that thing

[[XC] leviathan18]

OMFG that thing is funny you my friend are in the top of the list..... i want to see that beast working lol

[Silver Bullet]

wow thats some monster of a fan!!

[Nullvoid]

http://www.xclio.com/A380-spec.htm

That case seems like it was made with you in mind!

[Garrett]

The sound would drive me crazy lol... can you put a potentiometer on it so it runs at half speed? :D

[TyroPyro]

Oh man that pinwheel made me laugh. Awesome. Xtreme

[eXa]

holy fu***** christ!:eek: *turns down the volume*

[andyisc00l]

thats genious way to go

had to turn down my speakers too loud

how much did it cost?

[Shpoon]

Wow....that is WWWAAAAAAYYYY TOOO LOUD for me...can't belive you can live with that thing :p

[KingThot]

What a monster

[SturmoV]

Holy sh*t! That thing took 50 seconds just to reach a complete stop! I don't know if that should be attributed to its really good bearings or an insane RPM or both! :eek:

[M.Beier]

Hmm, I bet that thing is good at mixing food :P

[Malk4vi4n]

This is the kind of thing that makes you remember:
This is not "Super Silent" systems or "Price / performance systems"..this is Xtreme Systems! ! !

..and 1.100Cfm?! That's a lot of air!! Think twice before getting it close to your rig or else you can do some damage. Ah, by the way...if you do it PLEASE SHOW US!

*second thoughts* - you can also build come kind of hovercraft out of it!

Break a leg!

[GOATSLAYER]

Imagine if you can mount that on a heatsink.

[NickS]

Mount it on a PA160 :p:

[STEvil]

feed it a carrot from the front :D

[Frisch]

Couldn't live with that thing 2 seconds, thanks for the video, entertaining stuff.
I was fumbling to reach my soundcontrol, i had it on high. :D

[Direwolf]

Damn!!! Kinda scary at first when I saw that metal monster. I was like Owe noes my fingers!!

I can just imagine it hehe, its wicked man! BTW Dont need to worry about dust with that thing LOL

[Thrilla]

It made my 120mm 38mm delta look like a plastic toy....
Imagine if you were to play with one of those in your hands to feel the pressure, then suddenly drop it on your wiwi...

[eva2000]

dam that's crazy.. next we're going to hear my fan ate my video card LOL

[smith_6079]

Whenever you mount it, would you kindly show us some pics? I myself am interested in how exactly you're going to mount it. Also, if you got a dust shield for it you wouldn't have to worry about fingers and with that kind of CFM you won't have to worry about the filter restricting it's air.

[xlink]

how much did it cost and where from?

hah might get one.. would just need a voltage regulator, set it to around 150V for a bit of silence

[alpha0ne]

I soooooooo want one of those :fact: :banana:

I have two 120mm Papst fans in an aluminium housing that are similar, the are soooo quiet, nearly totally silent at 12V, the blade is also the same so you cant chop your fingers off :D

[dqniel]

It got down to around -20c here last year a few nights out of the winter. Now all I need is one of those fans.... ;)

Wow! These things are like $180 a piece?

[M.Beier]

feed it a carrot from the front :D

Like I said, perfect for food :p:

[Gautam]

Brings a whole new meaning to Xtreme. Looked up some further specs (http://www.alliedelec.com/Images/Products/Datasheets/BM/EBM_PAPST_INC/Ebm-Papst-Inc_Enclosure-and-Cooling_6000122.pdf) on this to satisfy my curiosity, and they are shocking! :eek:

280 x 280 mm; 80 mm; 115 V; 1100 CFM; 60 Hz; 200 W; Tubeaxial; 73 dBA; Pin

It easily draws as much as an overclocked Pentium D. :eek: Thank goodness its 230V AC...it'd take quite the power plant to run it otherwise. 73 dBA, yikes, better bring out the earmuffs. :p:

How are you planning on mounting this monster to a Tuniq Tower? I'll be looking forward to this, I don't think anyone has taken air to these extremes yet.

[Zardokk]

Yeah, as far as I know, the most "extreme" thing you could do with air was take a box fan and blow it into your case or get a 220CFM Delta, but wow...1100CFM...that's just nuts. Let us know what kind of temps that yields (and whether or not it blows your case apart XD).

[phelan1777]

with some ducting work you could cook a CPU/GPU, MOSFET, and RAM and have a low case temp :-P


Or mount it on the rear of a case and have some serious negative case pressure, literally suck the heat out of a case, okay well maybe I exaggerate a little.


Sick fan man, sick fan.


<<<< takes ear plugs out of his ears.

[eXa]

yeah, and suck all the hardware out at the same time or make the case implode!

seriously, what rpm is that fan?

[Zardokk]

A billion. Aproximately.

[dinos22]

On the blow side the blades are angled so that you do not get an edge and instead your digit will bounce off the face of the blade as it turns, so the result is a bad bruise rather than an amputation. I just tested it with my wifes finger and it was ok. Ok, I own up I actually used a carrot, my wife was busy on the phone ( again ! )

I will not think about the other side apart from it will probably dice and slice better than those items on the shopping channel that can make a rosette out of a boiled egg.

Regards

Andy
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[SlicerSV]

that thing is totally insane... you need to get something to decrease it's performance a little... wow...

[Pete]

OMG good dude that thing is mental!!! Can ya Pm me where you got it and what she cost?

Extream air cooling!!!

I'm thinking 3 of them maybe with modded shroud to cool my PA120.3, might have to build some silly hot CPU, over clock it and water cool it via that just to see how cold it'd go!

This winter is siad to be uber cold dude, late night in the garden/garge bench sesions i think!

[dqniel]

They are about $180 each from what I saw Pete.

[m0da]

umm... i suggest you use the strongest case available on the market. that thing will easily kill case windows/other stuff. BE CAREFUL DAMN!!!

[Pete]

$180 umm not bad! Didn;t look that big i though!

I wana see a vid of it cutting up your veg for dinener!!! A vid of how louad and mean it is with the wife being droned out by it is coo lbut it eating big long orange things is gonna be more fun!

[OV3RCLOCK3R]

Holy ****:slobber:

Man that fan is awesome :banana:

[vaio]

http://rswww.com/cgi-bin/bv/rswww/home.do?returningUser=N&cacheID=uknetscape

Loads to select from here.

[Zardokk]

At that point, the fan doesn't really serve a purpose. 1100CFM is rediculous and unneccesary as a means of cooling. For the money, you should just go for watercooling. I really do like this thread, though, and if you want to do something like this with a big ass fan like that, I suggest it, but a fan like that would make maybe a 7-8C difference in temps at most, assuming that it didn't blow your whole rig away. Anything beyound ~120CFM of so is really unneccessary and you're just gaining noise, not much cooling power. And when you get to the point where you're spending $180 for a fan, it might be time to invest in water cooling. :)

[Owen1978]

Now if you can get two of those into your case i.e. intake and outake then they would be impressive!

[[XC]melymel]

At that point, the fan doesn't really serve a purpose. 1100CFM is rediculous and unneccesary as a means of cooling. For the money, you should just go for watercooling. I really do like this thread, though, and if you want to do something like this with a big ass fan like that, I suggest it, but a fan like that would make maybe a 7-8C difference in temps at most, assuming that it didn't blow your whole rig away. Anything beyound ~120CFM of so is really unneccessary and you're just gaining noise, not much cooling power. And when you get to the point where you're spending $180 for a fan, it might be time to invest in water cooling. :)

Well why have standard water if you can have xtreme air :) . That fan is nice have you thought about mounting it to the side panel of a stacker it would fit by simply removing the 300mm grill in the side, well if you haven't thought about it I certainly have and the noise certainly can't be much worse than the whine of a Vantec tornado :p:.

[Celeron Gamer]

Make a video where you stick a carrot in it!

[ripken204]

Make a video where you stick a carrot in it!
haha! we should play a game where we see what chops up and what bouncing 500ft away :)

[ReD.SkY]

screw the case, go caseless and use an intake and exhaust in you whole room....


side effects may include, but are not limited to: Destruction of house and hurricane force winds

[BlaqMale]

got a a joke for you, i watched the video yesterday and was so amazed by the cfm and the noise that i still can't delete the video (lol @ good bearings). later in the night my brother walks in with a couple sunun 120x38 90cfm fans trying to show off at the he got about 16 of them free, not one to put up with he boasting i quickly scrabbled for the video to show him. the smile on his face slowly going away is something i'll remember for ever. lol :) i got me some sunons free :D

[Zardokk]

Hehe...good one, Blaq. :D

[richnewman]

XD! Lol, I love the the little wind toy thing to demonstrate the power :P

Where do you get those anyway?

[NickS]

XD! Lol, I love the the little wind toy thing to demonstrate the power :P

Where do you get those anyway?

Dollar store, lmao. :woot:

[[TAG]Imp]

Dollar store, lmao. :woot:
XTREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEME wind toys. XD

[richnewman]

Imp']XTREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEME wind toys. XD

XD

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET

Gimme one :P

[[TAG]Imp]

XD

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET

Gimme one :P
MAN! I GOT MY WIND TOY ON SINGLE STAGE MAN! 100% OVERCLOCK!!! ZOMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[zakelwe]

I think some people have got the wrong end of the stick here, I'm not attaching it to a Tuniq tower I am using it in a shed with a motherboard that is not cased with the fan about 1 foot away from the motherboard blowing air over the entire rig and NO fans on the Tuniq or chipset or even gpu cards. Those little fans just suck power away from where it should be going, ie the cpu and the gpu and the chipset.

Somebody mentioned water cooling .. I did that and got down to -33C from a modified Proline freezer with 8 pints of meths and 3 gallons of glycol mixture and a Hydor L45 pump but that is not the point, the point is I love standing out in my shed over winter from 9pm till 3am seeing how low things can go au natural air cooled :)

This is XS after all !

Somebody wanted a video of a carrot stuck in it to see what happens so here you are.

www.aocb77.dsl.pipex.com/fanny3.wmv

You have to know what you are doing with fans so don't try that at home by the way ;) it was just to show a point ..always best to let them spin down naturally.

Regards

Andy

[Timmay]

LooooL I thought you where nuts putting your finger in there... Hmmm Time to attach razor blades to the edges!!!!

[phelan1777]

I know I mgiht get something thrown at me for this, but that DOES NOT look like a carrot in the video:rofl:

[Death^Dread]

get one of those huge fans that are several feet in diameter (think: letterman blowing ping pong balls at crowd) and mount your case to that.

lol, mount your case to the fan, not mount the can to your case.


how did that thing NOT blow itself off the table/counter?
i started laughing after the 6th time the fan's spinning looked to change direction (fps vs. RPM values)
what is the RPM on that anyway?



next stop: C130 turboprop engine.


1100cfm... make sure you don't suck air out of your case too fast or blow air into your case too fast, it might implode/explode (depending which)

actually, don't use a case. put it on a board, and place the fan 15cm away to just blow on the entire motherboard. you're set.


you should put the edge of a playing card or business card or something similar to the fan and show us what happens

[Direwolf]

Pretty awesome and safe! :D

[Judaeus Apella]

feed it a carrot from the front :D

ROFL!!!! No! Try some Salami, then some cheese! And put a plate of crackers behind it!

All I want to know is, WHERE the hell did you get it?

[Sneaky]

i think it may be wired backwards, as axial fans always blow towards the motor supports, and spin the way the blades are designed to go


any info on this? IDK why it would ever spin like it did in the video, with the blades turing the opposite way from the norm (should always turn counter-clockwise from the suction/non-motor side)

[NickS]

So I can make my case fans go in reverse if I switch teh ground and 12v? SWEET!

[Death^Dread]

i have fans that rotate different directions but blow the same direction...

however, i don't have any fans that blow away from the motor supports.

[biohead]

hahahahahahahah

i want!!

I WANT!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:




no seriously i might get one :x

[roadie]

Wow, that fan definitely qualifies as Xtreme. I guess with that amount of airflow you would be stuck at ambient temps permanently.

[Sneaky]

i have fans that rotate different directions but blow the same direction...

however, i don't have any fans that blow away from the motor supports.



yea, you can have a counter-rotating fan, but no matter what, a axial fan like that will always blow towards the motor supports



and no nicks, you can't do that with any fan - some AC fans will do that though, as they lack the reverse current protection that most small electronic motors have (eg: 12v fan motors)

[XenatR]

i thought this thread was a miss-typed 110cfm ._.

[FLMJIGGY]

If you place the carrot on the other end...

U r extreme!

[zakelwe]

i think it may be wired backwards, as axial fans always blow towards the motor supports, and spin the way the blades are designed to go


any info on this? IDK why it would ever spin like it did in the video, with the blades turing the opposite way from the norm (should always turn counter-clockwise from the suction/non-motor side)

You're correct, with this fan you can make it rotate both ways as you have two connections for live. Putting it the normal way round was so powerful that the fan started moving backwards along the table whilst I took the video, so I just swapped it over thinking nobody would notice :p:

In reverse you get 60% of the air flow and about 60% of the noise but I am not sure whether in the long run this would cause it problems. 600-700cfm is still pretty good after all.

Regards

Andy

[Sneaky]

You're correct, with this fan you can make it rotate both ways as you have two connections for live. Putting it the normal way round was so powerful that the fan started moving backwards along the table whilst I took the video, so I just swapped it over thinking nobody would notice :p:

In reverse you get 60% of the air flow and about 60% of the noise but I am not sure whether in the long run this would cause it problems. 600-700cfm is still pretty good after all.

Regards

Andy


get a vid of the fan going the right direction... duct tape it to the table, and then show us how fast the pinwheel REALLY spins!!

[Death^Dread]

we want a video of it flying backwards!!!!!

yes, give us 1100 CFM not 700!

[MustardTheoRy]

That is an awesome fan. Better get rpm control before the wife leaves with the kids.

[phelan1777]

we want a video of it flying backwards!!!!!

yes, give us 1100 CFM not 700!


better yet of it hovering!

[zakelwe]

I'll do one tonight in my shed .. my 4 year old daughter is back now and I don't like it being used with her anywhere near for obvious reasons.

Regards

Andy

[Death^Dread]

ahh, i understand.

cool.

[zakelwe]

ahh, i understand.

cool.

yeah, she keeps stealing it to blow up her bouncy castle ....

:D

Regards

Andy

[zakelwe]

Here's the video ..it is in two parts, the first show the fan "walking" backwards across the table due to the force generated. It's a bit short as I had to grab the power lead to stop it hitting my lcd at the last moment.

The second part shows it being the shed doorman.


www.aocb77.dsl.pipex.com/fan3.wmv

I shall be putting it back to reverse operation ASAP .. it will be excellent come winter with ambient at 0C and a tuniq tower ..I'm hoping for 4Ghz off a Conroe, but that depends on the conroe of course.

Regards

Andy

[found404]

The acceleration on the fan is quite incredible. Doesn't make a bad doorman either.

[XenatR]

your name's not down, you're not comming in

[charlie]

wow...

that couldn't be MORE ridiculous...

in a good way of course ;)

[InSanCen]

Damn, my intended 500CFM Comair Rotron is looking weak by comparison...
http://www.comairrotron.com/dc_family.asp?FamilyID=54

I guess I'll have to think about this...
http://www.comairrotron.com/images/drawings/newpdf/DD1149.pdf

1000CFM, 68.6dBa, 24VDC, 115W, 4.8A

just attach some thick steel, and hey Presto! A new side intake!:D :p:

[selectodude]

You have a nice house, zak.

[Death^Dread]

insancen, i would not take that near your case. let alone mount it to the case. if you're using it for a case, stick with the 500CFM and drop the voltage to where it runs around 300 CFM

//edit: holy crap, zak. that thing is powerful. and it looks bigger with your hand for reference

BTW, nice deck

[ge|atinousfury]

The pinwheel idea was awesome, soon as I saw that I couldn't stop laughing lol

That fan is crazy!!!