Will the DFI RD600 be the Golden MB?

[dogsx2]

So far it been good to poor boards for Conroe. We are all hoping, wishing and thinking that the DFI RD600 will be the golden board that will take us higher then all the rest. Rumors are it will be the best bar none. Rumors have let us down many times.

What do you think?

[|SiLA|]

all we can do now is think/dreaming/hope

it's hard to say till noone tries it ;)

[coolaler]

Indeed lanparty xpress3200 CF
3 x16 pci-e slot
and CF will use bridge connect...

[gundersausage]

Hasn't got a lot to beat

[Frank M]

Only time will tell... so I didn't vote :p:

[burningrave101]

Hasn't got a lot to beat

Yeah no kidding. A shoe box with a few electrical traces could beat the Abit boards and the Asus and Gigabyte boards aren't that incredible.

[lawrywild]

Hasn't got a lot to beat

lol so true..

[Pandamonia]

will a 7900GTX work on the Ati board? does it have support with good performance?

[matt1]

I don't think the boards up to now have been amazing, but, I think people have been expecting too much from their retail chips. The ES ones are doing very well, think there will be an improvement (hopefully) but I'll stick with my Asus I reckon.

[zert]

i really hope it does cuz i'm waiting for this chip :wiggle:

[OBR]

Last DFI MoBo for Core2 is totally piece of ..., DFI is not good board maker for Intel ... so far.. I think first MoBo with RD600 will be Asus ...

[.sentinel]

Actually the DFI Infinity was one of the better boards.... Dumo used it and got upto 5ghz if I remember.

[i found nemo]

Actually the DFI Infinity was one of the better boards.... Dumo used it and got upto 5ghz if I remember.

qft dfi pwns! :fact:

[dogsx2]

Actually the DFI Infinity was one of the better boards....

:confused:


qft dfi pwns!:fact:

Your an old AMD guy, this is Intel. The board in your sig didn't own anything.:p:

[uOpt]

I loved the LanParty NF4 series but I am more sceptical here.

First of all I have a very strong desire to stay with Intel chipsets when I can have them, because the drivers and general reliability are so much better. I haven't got an ATI-based board yet but what I hear is not too good, about on par with NVidia where there's, quite frankly, so much trouble that it always made AMD64 sour for me.

I also think that the U.S. division of DFI is sincking deeper and deeper into lunatism and at some point a single board designer can't just hold up the flag alone.

[samualcc]

Well thanks too a new Bios update, the 975x Infinitity board is clocking over 400mhz. I think DFI just bought into the game early. First generation boards are always a bit of a let down.

I think the RD600 based DFI will be sweet. I don't have anything to really go on except that they wouldn't be putting all this time and effort into it unless the RD600 chipset was solid.

[mitftw]

Where's the "How would I know, why don't I just wait and see" option?

[SMa]

I'm expecting the most from Asus + RD600

[Ferry82]

At least DFI brings more bios updates for us tweakers.

[Vric]

5. How the hell we should know ? Wait and see..

[zoob]

I'm hoping this will not have quirks like the Ultra-D... I'm not too optimistic with the Asus board due to the issues the A8R series had =\

[fhpchris]

The WS Pro is up there, OPB Booted his x6800 @ over 5ghz on an unmodded board.

[[TAG]Imp]

it'll be one of the best... but more will come...

[gundersausage]

It will be the one to rule them all... it will be my precious... no Luke, I am your father!

[GOATSLAYER]

I wish i could just shove a conroe in my Ultra-d.

[Raja@ASUS]

I sure hope the board is great. But I don't see the point of the vote in this thread. Products get rushed to market, hung and quatered by consumers, then the hype starts again, the whole market is caught in a circle at the moment. The Foxconn and MSI threads were a classic example.

[GNU]

I think, this mobo http://us.dfi.com.tw/Press/press_header_content_us.jsp?PAGE_TYPE=US&TITLE_ID=7592&LINKED_URL=arch423.jsp&SITE=US
will defeat ASUS ;)

MFG

[DaWaN]

I'm expecting the most from Asus + RD600

That says everything :) Asus have the best Intel enigineers I think.

Still the i975 and i965 are VERY strong, don't underestimate them you AMD guys :D

Only time will tell, period.

I think moderators could better close this thread it leads to nothing except expectation en speculaton :)

[fhpchris]

I would say that the top 975 boards are:

P5WDH
P5W WS PRO
DFI Infinity w/ new bios

Once Fugger gets the AW9D-Max, we will know if we can add another to that list.

I dobut that the RD600 will be better than these 975 boards, but it might.

[CBONE]

I voted hype. DFI gets a pass on a lot of issues with their boards. When did instability become a desirable trait?

I'd go with ASUS or Gigabyte first.

[Revv23]

when dfi supports thier boards they usually end up pretty great.

but inbetween models like the infinity and the ati rd480 chipset (rdx200) were really hurt because the team is busy on other stuff.

[irev210]

I dont think there will ever be one board to rule all.


There are many things that are involved.

To rule 3D WORLD:

ATI VS NVIDIA... R600 VS G80

Better GPU = better solution to be 3D king

To rule FSB world:

Those that are running one card, and just want max FSB to take their E6600 to the limit. Right now the 90nm 965 is going to be tough to beat.

To rule the cost/benfit ratio world:

965. period. Nothing adds as much value as a 120-160 dollar 965 board.


The list goes on....

[Haltech]

The WS Pro is up there, OPB Booted his x6800 @ over 5ghz on an unmodded board.

When i see regualr users doing the same, than ill bow down to it.. however.. i fell victim to the Asus hype alrready on the intel side.. never again.

[Frank M]

To rule the cost/benfit ratio world:

965. period. Nothing adds as much value as a 120-160 dollar 965 board.

An article on Anandtech some time ago said the 3200 would retail around $150 - and for dual x16 pcie, that would be strong competition to 965-based boards.

[Dubz]

i dont see myself voting on this one. because time will only tell. and i can only remember one good dfi intgel board and that was the 925.

[fhpchris]

When i see regualr users doing the same, than ill bow down to it.. however.. i fell victim to the Asus hype alrready on the intel side.. never again.

Could you point out to me which "regular users" are unbiosed, get pre-released asus boards, and currently use LN2?

[Nasgul]

qft dfi pwns!
Your an old AMD guy, this is Intel. The board in your sig didn't own anything.:p:

And that is the reason why the poll is spoiled rotten. This is the Intel side, don't forget that fellas.

For Intel, ONLY ASUS are the best boards, MSI and DFI are crap, GIGABYTE 2nd now, it used to be ABIT, except as usual, ABIT is late in the game.

[G H Z]

DFI isn't crap, you'll be running one in no time trust me ;)

[Luck.exe]

The way I see it, it all depends on what you want out of your motherboard. If you want a little bit of everything with bells and whistles then the ASUS P5B deluxe and P5W DH boards are for you. They have just about everything you could imagine on a motherboard, but it isn't the best of everything. It isn't a very specialized board.

DFI, on the other hand, doesn't come with all kinds of bells and whistles. It's a more specialized board and when the time comes for the RD600 it may or may not show that. But from the past NForce dfi boards, they're all most made just for the overclocker or extreme gamer in mind, but because of that lack in other areas (like on board sound, etc).

[dogsx2]

And that is the reason why the poll is spoiled rotten. This is the Intel side, don't forget that fellas.

For Intel, ONLY ASUS are the best boards, MSI and DFI are crap, GIGABYTE 2nd now, it used to be ABIT, except as usual, ABIT is late in the game.

Would you have said Gigabyte before Conroe? Abit is out of the game right now.


Originally Posted by G H Z
DFI isn't crap, you'll be running one in no time trust me .

I don't know about that, they may be a $500 mb.

[Fixxxer]

Better wait and see, but I got a good feeling about this mobo.

Just expect DFI releases fast bios updates when needed.

[dinos22]

gee dogs didn't expect to see a thread like this from you

[Revv23]

DFI, on the other hand, doesn't come with all kinds of bells and whistles. It's a more specialized board and when the time comes for the RD600 it may or may not show that. But from the past NForce dfi boards, they're all most made just for the overclocker or extreme gamer in mind, but because of that lack in other areas (like on board sound, etc).

I disagree, DFI comes with lots of bells and whistles, the first lanparty nf4 was very quirky to say the least, and the sound sucked... but not all of thier solutions are like that, you cant get one board from a company and generalize thier entire product line from that.

FAct is, each board is different, maybe one picks up ground in one area, maybe it doesnt. Maybe one board is the only choice for enthusiasts. Who knows. I didnt vote in this poll, because i think it's a pretty dumb question to ask..

I have faith in DFI like i already said. But one thing i know is that they have alot more competition on the intel side then they do on the AMD side.

[Turtle 1]

I voted for ATI to be the best. But its just because I use to be an ATI fan-boy. I guess I am just hoping that the RD600 will be great . As it will be the last true ATI chipset for intel without AMD being involved. I also want the R600 to be a great gpu for the exact same reasons. After (If ) I purchase the RD600 and the R600 I will no longer support ATI products. But thats me .

On the Abit boards. I bought the IC7-Max 3 and it was Almost a perfect M/B
Had abit fixed the memory V problems this M/B could have been legendary for the 478 northies. I really don't understand why Abit didn't fix that problem . It was bad enough to were abit discontinued it. ( Chipset cost) Mine never gave me abit of trouble other than its memory V only worked to 3.0v and my corsair BH5 memory was begging for 3.4v . When the N/B fan went to hell . I decided to try the Asus board and it never came close to the IC7-Max3. But after installing Memory booster it was a pretty good M/B . I could have done the mod on the ic7-max . But at$200 I just couldn't. After a bought the asus I did mod the Abit memory V . I can tell you that it really does kick ass for its age my cousin is thrilled about its performance. I wonder how long the N/B fan will last this time.

[Revv23]

I voted for ATI to be the best. But its just because I use to be an ATI fan-boy. I guess I am just hoping that the RD600 will be great . As it will be the last true ATI chipset for intel without AMD being involved. I also want the R600 to be a great gpu for the exact same reasons. After (If ) I purchase the RD600 and the R600 I will no longer support ATI products. But thats me .

On the Abit boards. I bought the IC7-Max 3 and it was Almost a perfect M/B
Had abit fixed the memory V problems this M/B could have been legendary for the 478 northies. I really don't understand why Abit didn't fix that problem . It was bad enough to were abit discontinued it. ( Chipset cost) Mine never gave me abit of trouble other than its memory V only worked to 3.0v and my corsair BH5 memory was begging for 3.4v . When the N/B fan went to hell . I decided to try the Asus board and it never came close to the IC7-Max3. But after installing Memory booster it was a pretty good M/B . I could have done the mod on the ic7-max . But at$200 I just couldn't. After a bought the asus I did mod the Abit memory V . I can tell you that it really does kick ass for its age my cousin is thrilled about its performance. I wonder how long the N/B fan will last this time.

IIRC DFI's Oskar Wu designed the IC7-g... and the NF7-S for that matter. Then all those great amd boards for dfi, now the RD600, high hopes indeed.

[Sumanji]

A shoe box with a few electrical traces could beat the Abit boards...

:ROTF:

Thanks man, that's my hearty laugh for the day!




I loved the LanParty NF4 series but I am more sceptical here. First of all I have a very strong desire to stay with Intel chipsets when I can have them, because the drivers and general reliability are so much better.

Yeah, with you 100% on the Intel chipsets thing, they totally rock. In my (admittedly rather limited) experience of ATi chipset drivers, they have been totally horrible and it's really put me off using their chipsets in the future. Intel on the other hand are THE undisputed Gods of chipset design.




I wish i could just shove a conroe in my Ultra-d.

QFT

[kempez815]

If Oskar has anything to do with it - the R600 will be awesome. I simply love DFI's BIOS :)

[Tekdemon]

from what I can tell it's probably going to be a decent board but don't expect it to let you get higher FSBs than what you can already get on Intel based boards...found an article about how DFI's engineers are getting 430-450FSBs on the RD600, which doesn't exactly sound like it's going to blow the current boards away.

The other features might be pretty kickass, but I wouldn't get your hopes up too high.

[Frank M]

from what I can tell it's probably going to be a decent board but don't expect it to let you get higher FSBs than what you can already get on Intel based boards...found an article about how DFI's engineers are getting 430-450FSBs on the RD600, which doesn't exactly sound like it's going to blow the current boards away.
Yeah, but it's still in development phase ;)

But I agree, FSB is incredibly high with these 965 and 975 boards (that is, when they work like they should), and I don't think they will surpass them in this aspect.

[Direwolf]

What are the ETA on these boards? End of sept if what I've heard.

[Kin Hell]

Yeah, with you 100% on the Intel chipsets thing, they totally rock. In my (admittedly rather limited) experience of ATi chipset drivers, they have been totally horrible and it's really put me off using their chipsets in the future. Intel on the other hand are THE undisputed Gods of chipset design.

Exact-a-mundo!

I had my Canterwood 875 for 18 months. Best & most stable rig I have ever owned. :D
Abit IC7 series were damned hot boards. The Asus P4C800E Deluxe took virtually 10 Degrees off all system temps for me & added another 8mhz OC-ability!

This RD600 Chipset is suppose to blow everything away on mem-bandwidth.
Dont buy an nForce5 590 Chipset for Conroe. It uses the Memory Controller from the nForce4 Chipset, thereby reducing memory bandwidth. nVidia are not resolving this until Early 2007!?
Intel 975X appear to be suffering from lack of 400+ fsb's unless you make hardware mods.
With the likes of DFI nF4 SLI DR Expert for AMD, it's a shame they cant make a board of the same Calibre for Intel.
Then again, Hipro5's "Maximiser" might be the answer to it all. ;)

The Maximiser (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=42220) :clap:

*Warning*: It's a long thread.....

[PrometheusCon]

Just wondering, are you all basing a motherboard off its overclockablity? I am not really an enthusiast in the sense of getting everything out of a chip. I will overclock the e6600 when I get it, but I am looking forward more to the chip, motherboard, and video card features. I bought the P5w Dh Deluxe and I think the remote feature is awesome.

Then again I am upgrading from a 3 year old pc. I skipped the pentium 4 and AMD 64 bit era competely. I come from a Xp 2500+, fx5200, soltek mobo... you get the point.

Do you guys expect more out of board because you can afford to upgrade from your 7800gtx to the 7900gtx? or from a 4800 x2 to a Conroe? It seems like some of you really go through hardware! [...tell me.. is it bank robbing?]

Just wondering.

[i found nemo]

:confused:



Your an old AMD guy, this is Intel. The board in your sig didn't own anything.:p:


old? i'm only 21. the board in my sig has less quirks than any of these intel boards. i don't have to wire mod any crap, i don't have to boot at 201. i NEVER had to buy a cheaper chip cuz my bios would not recognize the new one, i don't have to plug in a million molex's to turn it on.. my dfi pwns you. :slapass:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=39636

[Revv23]

Just wondering, are you all basing a motherboard off its overclockablity? I am not really an enthusiast in the sense of getting everything out of a chip. I will overclock the e6600 when I get it, but I am looking forward more to the chip, motherboard, and video card features. I bought the P5w Dh Deluxe and I think the remote feature is awesome.

Then again I am upgrading from a 3 year old pc. I skipped the pentium 4 and AMD 64 bit era competely. I come from a Xp 2500+, fx5200, soltek mobo... you get the point.

Do you guys expect more out of board because you can afford to upgrade from your 7800gtx to the 7900gtx? or from a 4800 x2 to a Conroe? It seems like some of you really go through hardware! [...tell me.. is it bank robbing?]

Just wondering.

you got it.

PRetty much the oc and thats it.

[xlink]

Just wondering, are you all basing a motherboard off its overclockablity? I am not really an enthusiast in the sense of getting everything out of a chip. I will overclock the e6600 when I get it, but I am looking forward more to the chip, motherboard, and video card features. I bought the P5w Dh Deluxe and I think the remote feature is awesome.

Then again I am upgrading from a 3 year old pc. I skipped the pentium 4 and AMD 64 bit era competely. I come from a Xp 2500+, fx5200, soltek mobo... you get the point.

Do you guys expect more out of board because you can afford to upgrade from your 7800gtx to the 7900gtx? or from a 4800 x2 to a Conroe? It seems like some of you really go through hardware! [...tell me.. is it bank robbing?]

Just wondering.
finally, smoeone with some fraggfing logic... hardware sat on its dead asss for the last 3 years, there had been almost no real reason to justify an upgrade with the exception of intel's marketting... (we all know how those preshotts with 2mb cache beat the northwoods with 512kb... wait they don't)

[ugo1]

For me we will never see an Rd600 motherboard for Conroe

Ugo

[dogsx2]

old? i'm only 21. the board in my sig has less quirks than any of these intel boards. i don't have to wire mod any crap, i don't have to boot at 201. i NEVER had to buy a cheaper chip cuz my bios would not recognize the new one, i don't have to plug in a million molex's to turn it on.. my dfi pwns you. :slapass:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=39636

I had that board and MSI pwns nf3. For every guy who thought DFI nf3 was the best nf3 board there are at least 10 who think it was nothing but trouble.

[Spyvie]

It’s outdated now but the DFI nF3 is the original enthusiast’s board, they practically invented the category. Calling it “nothing but trouble” is just plain ignorant.

My next board prolly won’t be DFI.

[STickGuy]

Did DFI ever fix the RD600 ULI Sata Raid Issue on the Crossfire 3200 Lanparty board

[Kin Hell]

old? i'm only 21. the board in my sig has less quirks than any of these intel boards. i don't have to wire mod any crap, i don't have to boot at 201. i NEVER had to buy a cheaper chip cuz my bios would not recognize the new one, i don't have to plug in a million molex's to turn it on.. my dfi pwns you. :slapass:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=39636

Ner ner, ner-NER ner! :rolleyes:

Lets keep the topic on track fellas!

[DonS1mpson]

What's the ETA on this board?

I agree that there is no way to tell, but going my DFi's current track record of intel boards, I'm not expecting much... Hopefully they'll prove me wrong :P

[Kin Hell]

Did DFI ever fix the RD600 ULI Sata Raid Issue on the Crossfire 3200 Lanparty board

...Eeek....there's a "Quirk" already! You you dont get cr4p "quirks" like this on Intel rigs. :nono:
I have several concerns for buying any other board than an Intel Chipset for my 6600ES.
I can see me waiting till Sept/Oct for this board, only to go buy an Intel 975 Board. I suppose they will be somewhat cheaper by then. :D

Oh Yeah, the LP DFI 3200 uses the RD580 Chipset - The RD600 will be out Sept/Oct time & will prolly have resolved the issue.

[i found nemo]

For every guy who thought DFI nf3 was the best nf3 board there are at least 10 who think it was nothing but trouble.

tha's cuz the 1 out of 10 ppl aren't nubs

[JayG30]

Well at least this thread is interesting in the sense of seeing how varied the opinions will be on this board. This is a clear indication that it is far to early to make any judgement on this board. If it wasn't we would be seeing a far more one sided poll.

[Kin Hell]

Well at least this thread is interesting in the sense of seeing how varied the opinions will be on this board. This is a clear indication that it is far to early to make any judgement on this board. If it wasn't we would be seeing a far more one sided poll.

Now aint that a conversation killer............:D

[Super Nade]

I think it would be a good board, but certainly not a spectacular killer. Nobody knows their CPU's better than Intel :)

[Raja@ASUS]

It will have some unique features no doubt, so it will sell very well IMO.

If that's not enough the DFI 975XE Lanparty is also coming......


regards
Raja

[vapb400]

i havnt heard of this 975XE, is it actually coming?

[p0tter]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=115544&highlight=rd600+good


I haven't got a board so can't comment to much but i have seen the board has been doing 530fsb.

So much to those who thought the chipset could only do 420ish tops...;) LOL

bring it on...i know i can't wait now :)


LOL...fake, ohh man if I told you everything I would have to shoot you straight after I did ..LOL

Oskar has RD600@530 in his IM message, thats usually a good indictator things are going ok once he starts bragging about it ;)

It will ROCK!

[xlink]

Better wait and see, but I got a good feeling about this mobo.

Just expect DFI releases fast bios updates when needed.
apparently you have never heard of DFI INFINITY 975X/G...

1066 strap is killing me...

[mouawad]

Intel 975X appear to be suffering from lack of 400+ fsb's unless you make hardware mods.
With the likes of DFI nF4 SLI DR Expert for AMD, it's a shame they cant make a board of the same Calibre for Intel.


abit/asus have 4 975x boards between them can do 400+ out of the box

i think rd600 will be as good as the best 975x and maybe clock a little higher but as for being the wonder board??? i think there's more chance seeing paris hilton read a book.

[metro.cl]

not fair for me i got inside info :P

[erwinz]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=115544&highlight=rd600+good





It will ROCK!


I'm with you :)

:rocker:

[erwinz]

not fair for me i got inside info :P

is it still NDA? :hehe:

[camouflage]

:slobber: http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/931/first_looks_from_taiwan_rd600_crossfire_xpress_320 0_ie/index.html :toast:

[menlatin]

Just wondering, are you all basing a motherboard off its overclockablity? I am not really an enthusiast in the sense of getting everything out of a chip. I will overclock the e6600 when I get it, but I am looking forward more to the chip, motherboard, and video card features. I bought the P5w Dh Deluxe and I think the remote feature is awesome.

Then again I am upgrading from a 3 year old pc. I skipped the pentium 4 and AMD 64 bit era competely. I come from a Xp 2500+, fx5200, soltek mobo... you get the point.

Do you guys expect more out of board because you can afford to upgrade from your 7800gtx to the 7900gtx? or from a 4800 x2 to a Conroe? It seems like some of you really go through hardware! [...tell me.. is it bank robbing?]

Just wondering.




finally, smoeone with some fraggfing logic... hardware sat on its dead asss for the last 3 years, there had been almost no real reason to justify an upgrade with the exception of intel's marketting... (we all know how those preshotts with 2mb cache beat the northwoods with 512kb... wait they don't).

hardforum is the place for you.

[mr_mordred2095]

:slobber: http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/931/first_looks_from_taiwan_rd600_crossfire_xpress_320 0_ie/index.html :toast:

I'm disappointed. What's so great about is comapred to say a P5W64?

-P5W64 clocks well past 420/440fsb
-There's plenty of mem dividers to use, and if you can't find the right one on the 975, you can lower timings to comprimise.

I had high hopes, but it looks like I'll be going for the P5W64. I've got an ES E6300 that does 3.5 on stock volts, so I'll need all of the FSB and speed I can get.

[Dutch Schultz]

hope it will be.

[RichUK]

If the board can't do 450Mhz+ frequently, it'll be a waste of time.

[sephiroth8748]

I hope it's great. I got a X6800 ES and I'm going to wait and see how good it is.

[wwwww]

My last two DFI Intel boards were rubbish (975X/G, 855GME). I'm not expecting anything better here.

Not to mention that it's using a third-party chipset...

[qdemn7]

Is Asus going to make a '600 board??? :confused:

[Kin Hell]

Is Asus going to make a '600 board??? :confused:

Apparently, DFI are the only Mobo Manufacturers that are releasing an ATI RD600 Intel Board.

[Kin Hell]

My last two DFI Intel boards were rubbish (975X/G, 855GME). I'm not expecting anything better here.

Not to mention that it's using a third-party chipset...

You're not on your own! The third party chipset scares me as well, but the 855 board from DFI was a budget-pro board (is there really such a thing?) as is the entire Infinity Series which they applied to their 975X board. All DFI Infinity based boards are apparently classed as a budget board whereas the Lan Party Series are classed as Premium Boards with feature rich capabilities. The Lan Party Series of boards are quite stunning from my experience & rumour has it that DFI are to release a Lan Party version based on the 975XE chipset.

With regard to the DFI RD600 board, I reckon it's going to ROCK over anything currently available. I don't think Intel have been as up-front about the 975 Chipset as they should have been. It's a scary thing when a Chipset manufacturer releases the Best Over-Clocking board at the time the reference chipset was released. It's a first for Intel & as a sceptical old-er git than most on these forums, I feel Intel Fux0rd the whole industry some-what. It's almost as bad as nVidia using the nForce4 memory controller on the nForce5 Chipset, thereby retarding the Memory bandwidth by a huge margin. I suppose it's not right to blame nvidia for this as Intel may have only released what info they wanted to release to be on top with thier Bad Axe based 975 board. Apparently, Intel have also been chivvying motherboard manufacturers NOT to take up manufacture of the RD600 based boards for Conroe because of the Strap Copywrites. Intels next fsb on from 1066 wont be seen until Next Years release of new CPU & this is why you will see reports on these forums of users getting LESS bandwidth when using the 1333 Strap. It's about 1GB/Sec slower than a 1066 Strap based on the Abit AW9D board results here:

Abit AW9D 975 board (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=113633&page=15)

Summat got fudged/fux0rd/borked somewhere!! :slapass:

[exhausted mule]

so your saying these "copyrighted straps" shouldn't be an issue on a third party chipset?

if that's the case... than this opens up a whole can of worms with how intel is going about their current chipsets.

I'm thinking the mch can't handle such high bandwith so the strap is a way to slow down the latencies and that's why the boards are showing less bandwith after a clock past a new strap and only showing comparable performance after a good chunk past the new latencie change.

heh, will this is interesting, maybe the rumours of ati's seperate memory clock has something to do with this.

[ZeroCool1616]

Hi mates

Here (http://www.dfi.com.tr/lp_intel_cfx3200.html) are a DFI Site that shows the RD600 !

And the Specs can be downloaded here (http://www.pctuning.cz/ilustrace3/fiala/LP_UT_ICFX3200-T2RG.PDF) !

I hope thats nearly true ! But i thought the FSB will be at 1333 MHz ??!!

Thx

By Zero

[Poodle]

Intels next fsb on from 1066 wont be seen until Next Years release of new CPU & this is why you will see reports on these forums of users getting LESS bandwidth when using the 1333 Strap. It's about 1GB/Sec slower than a 1066 Strap based on the Abit AW9D board results here:

Abit AW9D 975 board (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=113633&page=15)

Summat got fudged/fux0rd/borked somewhere!! :slapass:


Amd surely went :ROTF: about this at their Moskow meeting showing of specs of the k8l. Something like: "Is this what you call progress Intel?

I don't like the Kenty anyway, too freaking hot on load. What Cooler you gonna stick on that M¤tha? My hr-01 just about handels my overclocked E6600. And it's a good cooler.

My E6600 gonna end up on a Dfi. Don't wanna support Intel more than needed.

[Poodle]

Intels next fsb on from 1066 wont be seen until Next Years release of new CPU & this is why you will see reports on these forums of users getting LESS bandwidth when using the 1333 Strap. It's about 1GB/Sec slower than a 1066 Strap based on the Abit AW9D board results here:

Abit AW9D 975 board (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=113633&page=15)

Summat got fudged/fux0rd/borked somewhere!! :slapass:


Amd surely went :ROTF: :rofl: about this at their Moskow meeting showing of specs of the k8l compared with the Kenty. Something like: "Is this what you call progress Intel?

I don't like the Kenty anyway, too freaking hot on load. What Cooler are you gonna stick on that little M¤th4? My hr-01 just about handles my overclocked E6600. And it's a good cooler. Kenty and 1333 is a no go. Quad just hasn't matured yet. Kenty is merely a ":stick: We got there first!!!!" kind of thing.

My E6600 gonna end up on a Dfi. Don't care if Intel never let it have fsb 1333 support. Don't need or want it. But hey Intel.. Thanks anyway! :clap: For beeing as sneaky as ever :worm: and getting Asus & Co. on their knees. :worship:

[Topheistos]

Hi mates

Here (http://www.dfi.com.tr/lp_intel_cfx3200.html) are a DFI Site that shows the RD600 !

And the Specs can be downloaded here (http://www.pctuning.cz/ilustrace3/fiala/LP_UT_ICFX3200-T2RG.PDF) !

I hope thats nearly true ! But i thought the FSB will be at 1333 MHz ??!!

Thx

By Zero
Sry. but nothing new (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=116504&highlight=DFI+RD600+Spec). Concerning the: 1333Mhz (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1735044&postcount=40). Also the DFI-Site was known before (http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=270769&highlight=RD600).


For beeing as sneaky as ever and getting Asus & Co. on their knees. :worship:
Lol!

[maxxxxel]

According to vr-zone

[ATi RD600 hits 520MHz FSB, NVIDIA C55 hits 510MHz]

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4096

We have received some hints from a motherboard engineer who has been testing out overclocking capabilities of the soon-to-be in market ATi RD600 chipset motherboard and NVIDIA C55 chipset motherboard for the Intel platform. RD600 seems capable of hitting 520MHz FSB with the right voltage adjustments, while the new generation NVIDIA MCP C55 lags slightly behind at 510MHz FSB. Both seem to be doing good, and I'm excited just waiting for these boards!

[Kin Hell]

What Cooler are you gonna stick on that little M¤th4? My hr-01 just about handles my overclocked E6600.

Swiftech Storm Water Cooler with 6600 ES

[Dax5]

infinity 975x's a total letdown, hope this one's a winner!

[fhpchris]

Just wondering, are you all basing a motherboard off its overclockablity? I am not really an enthusiast in the sense of getting everything out of a chip. I will overclock the e6600 when I get it, but I am looking forward more to the chip, motherboard, and video card features. I bought the P5w Dh Deluxe and I think the remote feature is awesome.

Then again I am upgrading from a 3 year old pc. I skipped the pentium 4 and AMD 64 bit era competely. I come from a Xp 2500+, fx5200, soltek mobo... you get the point.

Do you guys expect more out of board because you can afford to upgrade from your 7800gtx to the 7900gtx? or from a 4800 x2 to a Conroe? It seems like some of you really go through hardware! [...tell me.. is it bank robbing?]

Just wondering.


Actually, I upgraded my 4800+ to an Opteron 165 (which I owned for less than 12 hours!), and then upgraded to an FX60. After a few weeks, I upgraded to an E6600, then got bored with it, and got a second E6600. After a few more weeks I got bored with the second week 28 E6600, so I picked up a E6700 B2 ES.

Some of us here @ XS upgrade frequently :) That said, I am sure you will love your new hardware, as anything new will put a 2500+ to shame :)


DFI NF3

I thought the IC7 Max 3 and the Epox 4PCa3+ were the origional boards for us serious overclockers...

[Kin Hell]

Actually, I upgraded my 4800+ to an Opteron 165 (which I owned for less than 12 hours!), and then upgraded to an FX60. After a few weeks, I upgraded to an E6600, then got bored with it, and got a second E6600. After a few more weeks I got bored with the second week 28 E6600, so I picked up a E6700 B2 ES.

Some of us here @ XS upgrade frequently :) That said, I am sure you will love your new hardware, as anything new will put a 2500+ to shame :)



I thought the IC7 Max 3 and the Epox 4PCa3+ were the origional boards for us serious overclockers...

LOL.... 12 hours on an Opty 165...That has to be the FASTEST upgrade I'ver ever heard about, & the dear lady in my life moans at me doing it approx every 6 months! :rolleyes:

I picked up a 6600 ES about 2 months ago & still havn't used it yet! Most would consider that shamefull but I've never done this kind of thing before. Having siad that, I have pre-upgraded the whole rig with water cooling & am still waiting for the Pumps to arrive from the USA. Eventually, everything will be transplanted from a Lian Li PC75 to one of those MountainMods cases which will have Phase Change as well as Water. And after that...........

Upgrading is a perpetual thing for most OC'ers & PrometheusCon isn't far wrong asking if it is "Bank Robbing", but the real question is, "Who is robbing who?" I was always told to stay clear of car salesmen as a kid...Thesedays, it's stay clear of Computer Hardware! - Cars depreciate slower than PC's...that ladies & gentlemen, ....is a fact!

Will I be buying this board!? .....Hmm, from what I feel about Intel atm, I most certainly will & I might even sell the Danger Den Water cooled XFX XXX 7950 GX2. .......QUAD SLI my Fat Arse!! ......& that is Unadulterated Daylight Robbery of the worst kind! :clap:

The RD600 Board & 2GB OCZ VX is gunno blow another £500.00. Thank fcuk I have a Birthday in November & Xmas is soon after. I guess I'm lucky my Hobby doesn't force me to do crap aftershaves & socks over the festive season. :D

....12 hours on an Opty 165....I am so glad I got an Opty 175 & didn't do the FX60. Respect fhpchris!

Kin :)

[Blacklash]

My prediction is the DFI RD600 will be a finicky often unstable board riddled with odd annoying little bugs that will drive some to eventually take a claw hammer and pulverize it to dust.

[Kin Hell]

My prediction is the DFI RD600 will be a finicky often unstable board riddled with odd annoying little bugs that will drive some to eventually take a claw hammer and pulverize it to dust.

After the glitches with the RD580, I don't blame you for being Sceptical. I'm hoping to be as amazed as I was .....& still am, with my Opteron 175 & DFI LP nF4 SLi DR Expert. It's the most amazing AMD rig I've ever owned to date and Smoked an 18 Month constant, CPU upgraded Canterwood Spell.

Here's hoping to be amazed some more! :cool:

[Phosphate]

I'm disappointed. What's so great about is comapred to say a P5W64?



P5W64 is what I want if I ever have a 4MB L2 Cache CPU and get the urge to run dual video cards. To me this mobo seems like it might be worth the $50 over the P5W-deluxe.

Speaking of dual video cards when will intel release official SLI drivers for their chipsets? Yeah I know about the hacked drivers.

[gundersausage]

Just as long as I can stop frying an egg on my DS3 northbridge... I'll be happy

[charlie]

I don't think it'll cook eggs and pancakes and make your bed in the morning... but it'll be good.

[Kin Hell]

I don't think it'll cook eggs and pancakes and make your bed in the morning... but it'll be good.

I can think of other things in bed after eggs with pancakes & before she's made the bed .......that really is more than good.
I'm not so sure any board could win over that. :D

[Kin Hell]

P5W64 is what I want if I ever have a 4MB L2 Cache CPU and get the urge to run dual video cards. To me this mobo seems like it might be worth the $50 over the P5W-deluxe.

Speaking of dual video cards when will intel release official SLI drivers for their chipsets? Yeah I know about the hacked drivers.

Isn't it nice to see one of the FIRST decent PCI-e Slot layouts ever!

Check it out (http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=6635&page=3)

This has to be the way forward for all Chipset & Motherboard layouts. Eventually, PCI will just fade out like ISA did.

[Kin Hell]

Hoping I'm not barking up the wrong tree, DFI's RD600 Layout appears to have changed somewhat;
From this:

First Layout (http://www.elitebastards.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=215277)

To this:

New Layout (http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4513)

It sure would be nice to know why?
Maybe to terminate the PCI-e bus correctly or a chipset issue?
Shame about the split SATA headers for it. Top ones could have been made USB to put all 4 SATA on bottom edge.
Utopia...not a chance in this life........

*Edit - The KARAJAN Sound module was not inserted on First Layout Pics at time of photo. Header is present on mobo with AUX Phonos as well*

[Crankybugga]

Hoping I'm not barking up the wrong tree, DFI's RD600 Layout appears to have changed somewhat;
From this:

First Layout (http://www.elitebastards.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=215277)

To this:

New Layout (http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4513)

It sure would be nice to know why?
Maybe to terminate the PCI-e bus correctly or a chipset issue?
Shame about the split SATA headers for it. Top ones could have been made USB to put all 4 SATA on bottom edge.
Utopia...not a chance in this life........

*Edit - The KARAJAN Sound module was not inserted on First Layout Pics at time of photo. Header is present on mobo with AUX Phonos as well*
Certainly has changed, maybe adressing vga heat issues.

[sdumper]

Hoping I'm not barking up the wrong tree, DFI's RD600 Layout appears to have changed somewhat;
From this:

First Layout (http://www.elitebastards.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=215277)

To this:

New Layout (http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4513)

It sure would be nice to know why?
Maybe to terminate the PCI-e bus correctly or a chipset issue?
Shame about the split SATA headers for it. Top ones could have been made USB to put all 4 SATA on bottom edge.
Utopia...not a chance in this life........

*Edit - The KARAJAN Sound module was not inserted on First Layout Pics at time of photo. Header is present on mobo with AUX Phonos as well*

I much prefer the second layout over the first...In fact this is by far the best layout for double video cards that I have seen...

[Sumanji]

Yeah it's just to increase the slot spacing I imagine. Leaving only one slot between each PCI-E x16 connector was pretty silly; the new layout is much better.

[Kin Hell]

I much prefer the second layout over the first...In fact this is by far the best layout for double video cards that I have seen...

...Definately....just a shame about the SATA Split!

[zert]

agreed, you definately loose 2 SATA ports if you got a 2 slot cooler on the 3th vga

[revenant]

new slot layout WTF.. for sure done for better cooling.. me thinks. :)

[Vassili]

I wonder how the driver support wil be... since this is ATI's last chipset for intel and AMD-ATI.

[mykeos]

I'm really looking forward to this board.DFI is a real OC supporter, unlike ASUS.And for those of us with x68, OC options such as high vcore in bios are more important than FSB heights...

[Kin Hell]

I'm really looking forward to this board.DFI is a real OC supporter, unlike ASUS.And for those of us with x68, OC options such as high vcore in bios are more important than FSB heights...

Not quite m8....FSB = X Mb/sec Memory Bandwidth.
FASTER FSB's = Even more Mb/Sec Memory Bandwidth - on Intel based PC's.

Thats the thing with Intel Rigs...The faster the FSB, the Higher the Mem Bandwidth & the Faster your PC will perform. It'll be very very Interesting to see what happens to Mem bandwidths when Intel release their Next Gen of CPU's in 2007 with their OWN on-board Memory Controller. AMD Systems need HIGH multipliers for better Performance/More Mem Bandwidth. Fast FSB's on AMD systems make very little difference, but do enhance things slightly.
Playing with an Opteron 170 & 175 side by side showed this so blatently. The Opty 175 on a 10 Multiplier instead of 11, gave EXACTLY the same bandwith as the Opty 170 on a 10 multiplier, & the Opty 175 was on a Faster FSB @ 10 X multiplier. The difference was within 20Mb/Sec or so which you can right-off during bench to bench. You can drop the Multiplier on an ES Intel CPU & see the Memory Bandwidth STILL increase despite the lesser Multiplier:)

Just to add, the info above apertains to DDR Based systems. DDR2 is another equation all together & is something I will be experimenting with when I get this board. We shall see.

With DDR3 & Rambus2 round the corner, the cake you eat will be a different kind....thats for sure! DDR2 was a bit like AM2 socket AMD CPU's. It was a BIG party no one really went to, but everyone that went, emptied their wallet ;)

Incidently, ATI already have made their RD600 Chipset work with DDR3, but there is no version of this board untill 2007 & rumour on the Web has it this DFI RD600 Based Mobo will be the ONLY one ever using the RD600 chipset. It probably has someting to do with Copyrights on 1333 Strapping from Intel. These 1333 fsb based CPU's wont be available untill 2007 & bearing in mind Rambus2 (Intel Technology), the road map is already laid out for more wallet emptying. :eek:
It would be nice to see Rambus2 floor the rest, Rambus did on its second Gen modules & Rambus still floors DDR2 in certain areas of 3DMark 01, (check your FPS figures at certain points of Benchmark) which is just purely, a Memory Bandwith intensive application. 3Dmark 03/05/06 loved AMD CPU's with FAST Multipliers. I reckon there will be some hit for Intel using their own onboard Memory Controllers, or another version of CPU to overcome the slow-ness as we saw with Intel Socket 423 CPU's. Socket 478 technology was a breath of fresh air by comparison.
The money spent by companies like Intel, developing their technologies, .....has to be borne by punters like us!
I've been sat on an Intel CORE DUO 6600ES for about two & a half months now.....waiting for the right board. I've just got to the point where I'm fed up of taking it in the Ass. PC's depreciate MORE than friggin' cars!

*edit* -B!tch-moan over...........I'm getting too old for this crap............F'k it, I'm off to spin out! :dj:

[Poodle]

:confused: @ Kin.


What's the score about DDR2? Everyone's buying it now (eg: It's on all new boards) . :slap:

And why you are on about Rambus? Everyone hates those sneaky bastards.

And we all know that Ddr3 will never show on a RD600....

[775911]

FSB is always good especially with dual core and multitasking :)

On AMD, FSB made a pretty big difference with barton chips but that all changed after that, partly why I never bothered much with A64.

Ive used ATI chipsets before with an 805 and the async was usefull but dont expect gigantic increases from pushing the memory further unless the rig really needs it, ie. multitasking, etc

[JamesAvery22]

:confused: @ Kin.


What's the score about DDR2? Everyone's buying it now (eg: It's on all new boards) . :slap:

And why you are on about Rambus? Everyone hates those sneaky bastards.

And we all know that Ddr3 will never show on a RD600....

lol why do people hate Rambus?

[camouflage]

:D The grand slam will be the independent working RAM........., no multis and no dividers...........:banana:

:toast:

[Kin Hell]

:confused: @ Kin.


What's the score about DDR2? Everyone's buying it now (eg: It's on all new boards) . :slap:

And why you are on about Rambus? Everyone hates those sneaky bastards.

And we all know that Ddr3 will never show on a RD600....

I'm not so sure your comments are really worth replying to.....but you got another post racked up eh! ;)
Perhaps if you had experience with a Decent Rambus setup, you'd know what I was on about! DDR2 was released to topple Rambus in performance & Price. Rambus was & still is very expensive. So far as DDR3 goes, why have ATI bothered utilising DDR3 with the RD600 Chipset? So far, all we know from the Web is this RD600 chipset isn't going to be used by any other Mobo maker other than DFI & nor will RD600 ever support Intel again. DDR3 will be DDR's next hope at keeping Rambus2 at bay, so hold on to your hat. I'm sure the Intel Roadmap regarding supporting RAM technologies is already well laid out. Probably so much so, this is one of the reasons along with 1333 Strap being slower than 1066 Straps - again tied in with Intels Muscle on protecting their investment in their technological developments.



lol why do people hate Rambus?

Dunno m8y...it's a shame they know no better really!



:D The grand slam will be the independent working RAM........., no multis and no dividers...........:banana:

:toast:

Hopefully, this'll be the big one - nVidia didn't get it right, just like their cr4p SLI. It's never been right & thats why Quad SLI is as crap as it is. Unified drivers my Fat Arse! :rofl:

[Senater_Cache]

any news on the release date?

[camouflage]

any news on the release date?

;) Yes, chances are hi it's coming out even this year.............:ROTF: :up:

[Spacemaster]

Not so shore abaut that,2 or 3 week is max for review of this mb.;)

[Kin Hell]

Not so shore abaut that,2 or 3 week is max for review of this mb.;)

http://www.benchmark.co.yu/forum/sho...d.php?t=104009

Don't you just Love links like this crap..........
Yugoslavia aint ur day to day choice of language.......
Strange this is...I didn't see a sinlge pic of a DFI RD600 based MoBo anywhere......
Any chance you could be bit less, er........Cryptic!?

[Dax5]

Dfi + Conroe = Crap

[Kin Hell]

Dfi + Conroe = Crap

WOW.......Pick a fight why dont'chya! :shoot:

[Frank M]

Dfi + Conroe = Crap
Hmm... I though posting without facts was crap...
but with all the reasons you gave, you must be right :rolleyes:

[Haltech]

Dfi + Conroe = Crap


Back it up genius... :slap:

[gundersausage]

Hey you knobs, I'm getting email after email alerting me to this thread because you walking penis's with ears haven't left the school playground yet... gimmie a f#cking break

[775911]

The NDA isnt till the 8th I think, so unsub and come back in a week

[Senater_Cache]

is there by any chance a usual ballpark average-time between NDA lifts and actual availabilty in the PC-Hardware industry?

[Vapor]

Hey you knobs, I'm getting email after email alerting me to this thread because you walking penis's with ears haven't left the school playground yet... gimmie a f#cking breakPosts like this get threads locked and users warned/banned....don't post them.

[afireinside]

Posts like this get threads locked and users warned/banned....don't post them.

They're entertaining though :(

Anyway will the RD600 be the "one"? Who knows. I highly doubt it will give me a high enough fsb to bench a reasonably priced CPU (read: 6600) on DICE without terrible performance *965SUCK I'm looking at you*

[gundersausage]

..............

[Kin Hell]

Hey you knobs, I'm getting email after email alerting me to this thread because you walking penis's with ears haven't left the school playground yet... gimmie a f#cking break

Yeah...the quote above is to the point with a bit of an "acute" angle, but ffs, when you get muppets like:

Dax saying: "Dfi + Conroe = Crap"
And Spacemaster, (Obviously somewhere on another Planet) saying what he said; I kinda like Gundersausage's Remark!
Look back at the history of the Thread try to understand Gunders'sos's feelings! We have all been waiting patiently & I can sympathise. After all, a couple of "dicks" with ears just did post to equally ban-able sh1t - stirring posts. They are, way way off Topic. :slapass:

[Haltech]

Yeah I'm really the problem... pfft


and ps, if I wanted your advice I would beat it out of you with my ridiculously large penis and risk the charge of assault with a deadly weapon

something tells me, youre gone.. if not, what a shame.

[Kin Hell]

something tells me, youre gone.. if not, what a shame.

er....why?

You got a ramrod up ur pooper or summat?
Don't you have any sense of humour at all?
We are all different m8y now lets ALL cool down & get back to waiting eh!? :)

[Haltech]

er....why?

You got a ramrod up ur pooper or summat?
Don't you have any sense of humour at all?
We are all different m8y now lets ALL cool down & get back to waiting eh!? :)

i got a great sense a humor. However, talking to mods or admins like that isnt exactly the brightest thing to do around here.

[gundersausage]

something tells me, youre gone.. if not, what a shame.
Wow... how will I sleep tonight?

You do realise this is a site for enthusiasts who most likely know how to change their email, IP addy and waltz straight back in undetected :rolleyes:

[Kin Hell]

i got a great sense a humor. However, talking to mods or admins like that isnt exactly the brightest thing to do around here.

It aint the Best thing to do in ANY forum as most 14 year olds arn't old enough to have developed a sense of humor.
Thankfully, these forums are patrolled by more mature Admin compared to some!

[uclajd]

My money's on the admins like FUGGER being smarter than you.

:stick:


You do realise this is a site for enthusiasts who most likely know how to change their email, IP addy and waltz straight back in undetected :rolleyes:

[gundersausage]

My money's on the admins like FUGGER being smarter than you.

:stick:

The lips of wisdom are sealed except to the ears of understanding

[camouflage]

:D Is this new benching contest in abusing others...............:confused:

[775911]

is there by any chance a usual ballpark average-time between NDA lifts and actual availabilty in the PC-Hardware industry?

I dont know, the 8800 is out soon with a similar NDA and people speak as if the card will be available on the day of the NDA lifting but I find that hard to believe.

[Kin Hell]

I dont know, the 8800 is out soon with a similar NDA and people speak as if the card will be available on the day of the NDA lifting but I find that hard to believe.

The sod of all this is, if it is all down to the NDA & If the DFI board can offer full 1333 Strapings with the faster performance over a 1066 STRAP;

Then perhaps we wont see this board until the nest gen of 8*** 1333 STRAP CPU's hit the market & that isn't happening until end of first quarter 2007 according to Intels RoadMap. Another solution is of course, DFI release the board with 1066 STRAP Bois & then we can surf the Web for a Leaked Bios file, which could be made available anyhow when the 1333 CPU's are released! ;)

I guess DFI will have already considered this option because by end of first quarter 2007, other board manufacturers will have caught up!
Also, having said this, Web rumor & conjecture has it, RD600 won't support Intel again so maybe they will wait to show them what this chipset is all about.

C'mon DFI, make a decision. WE need this board now! :D

[uclajd]

Well, can't wait any longer, ordered my P5W64-WS today...

[Metroid]

680i will beat anyone until the bearlake comes in the end.

[-Sweeper_]

any info if it will be compatible with yorkfield/wolfdale? (ps: sorry 4 my bad english)

[Knight]

Not to be rude, but can we wait for facts. :fact:

[camouflage]

:D I don't want facts - I want the board !!!:p:

Need it badly, my expectations are hi to top my best result so far:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=121704

:woot:

[gundersnag]

My money's on the admins like FUGGER being smarter than you.

:stick:

Hope you didn't bet too much :)

[erwinz]

were getting close.. :D 5 days to go.. :woot:

[Kin Hell]

Hope you didn't bet too much :)

ROFL :slap:

[hoodlikegaza]

were getting close.. :D 5 days to go.. :woot:


5 days until what?

[Spacemaster]

What I say is onley sugestion,so if NDA of nv is 8.11,my thinking is that we can espest ATI 2-3 weeks after,that is my sugestion,not information that I have.Chears mates.

[zert]

What I say is onley sugestion,so if NDA of nv is 8.11,my thinking is that we can espest ATI 2-3 weeks after,that is my sugestion,not information that I have.Chears mates.
i THINK (and really HOPE) it wont even take that long. max 2 weeks after 680i.
DAAMIT knows how good 680i is and cant afford to lag behind.
+ DFI needs good boards after Infinity 975X beeing a real dissapointment

[screwtech02]

Have you guys noticed that over at DFI-Street, there are NO posts or questions being asked/answered about this board?? Kinda funny....:rolleyes:

[dab420]

at DFI-street they wait until after the board has been released to begin discussion.

[The Nemesis]

Have you guys noticed that over at DFI-Street, there are NO posts or questions being asked/answered about this board?? Kinda funny....:rolleyes:
Well I now know why, I started a thread complimenting DFI for the NF4 product and asked if & when there will be any info on the RD600 or 680i. The thread was deleted within 5 minutes. Now I remember why I stopped going over to dfi-streets.

[gelatinousfury]

Well I now know why, I started a thread complimenting DFI for the NF4 product and asked if & when there will be any info on the RD600 or 680i. The thread was deleted within 5 minutes. Now I remember why I stopped going over to dfi-streets.

I've noticed that too.

On another note, after 2 dead P5B's (possibly due to a bad PSU though) I'm ready to try a different board and I've had good luck with DFI in the past :)

[screwtech02]

Quote:

"Well I now know why, I started a thread complimenting DFI for the NF4 product and asked if & when there will be any info on the RD600 or 680i. The thread was deleted within 5 minutes. Now I remember why I stopped going over to dfi-streets."


I can also attest to that fact, my post didnt even have a chance, seems they are quite "anal" about requiring a "sig" over there.... It never made it to the boards....

I knida figured that "they" would have more info on the products, evidently i was SADLEY mistaken... So, from here on out i will rely on hear-say, vaporware-reports.....:rolleyes:

[zert]

So, from here on out i will rely on hear-say, vaporware-reports.....:rolleyes:
not quite, this is XtremeSystems. if something new comes along, big chance it shows up here first ;)

[Quentin]

not quite, this is XtremeSystems. if something new comes along, big chance it shows up here first ;)

But it's so long :(

[Kin Hell]

But it's so long :(

.....the Maiden cried......:banana:

[camouflage]

Have you guys noticed that over at DFI-Street, there are NO posts or questions being asked/answered about this board?? Kinda funny....:rolleyes:

:D Haha - forbidden to them by cuttinng one finger each question.......:slapass:

[dab420]

The reason is that DFI-Street is a support community, and Travis refuses to support a board that isn't released yet. He won't answer anything about it, and he won't allow discussion on the subject.

Once it's realeased, ask away. You shouldn't need much support from them on a board that pretty much no one but Victor has.. ;)

[Kin Hell]

The reason is that DFI-Street is a support community, and Travis refuses to support a board that isn't released yet. He won't answer anything about it, and he won't allow discussion on the subject.

Once it's realeased, ask away. You shouldn't need much support from them on a board that pretty much no one but Victor has.. ;)

Yeah, but most folk in here wanna know when the board is due to be released? They will HAVE to go to DFI Street for support AFTER it's release & it's well over-due now!
If DFI leave it any longer, the board is gunno be out of date before they ever release it. :D

[screwtech02]

Not to mention, if they "refuse" to talk about it now, just what kind of "support" can people expect out of em??? Obviously the "Stalinistic" approace is doing well over there......:rolleyes:

[camouflage]

:D Rename this thread into " Will the DFI RD600 be the ever released MB? " :stick:

[_Eduard_]

The board is probably not going to be released at all now that AMD and ATI have fused. Because if ATI releases this board, it will cause more people to step over from AMD to Intel, and eventually cause AMD/ATI money. At least that is my theory...

[dab420]

daamit!

[p0tter]

The board is probably not going to be released at all now that AMD and ATI have fused. Because if ATI releases this board, it will cause more people to step over from AMD to Intel, and eventually cause AMD/ATI money. At least that is my theory...


makes sense... :banana::banana::banana::banana:.

[Kin Hell]

:D Rename this thread into " Will the DFI RD600 be the ever released MB? " :stick:

LOL...yeah! :D

[Kin Hell]

The board is probably not going to be released at all now that AMD and ATI have fused. Because if ATI releases this board, it will cause more people to step over from AMD to Intel, and eventually cause AMD/ATI money. At least that is my theory...

You might be nearer the mark than you think.....
I expect someone, - somewhere is bending right over for it! :slap:

[Kanten]

The board is probably not going to be released at all now that AMD and ATI have fused. Because if ATI releases this board, it will cause more people to step over from AMD to Intel, and eventually cause AMD/ATI money. At least that is my theory...


Isn't that breach of contract?

[slykid]

i think they should at least send you an email or private message as to why the deleted your thread for asking about a board release.dfi streets is actually the streets..no respect!

[DarkSephiroth]

What about the price tag for this board?

[screwtech02]

Oh no, seems the trend over at DFI-Street is to just BAN anyone who posts, just because they have no system "sig".... Kinda like "Your papers appear out of order comrade, NO support fo you today!!"......:rolleyes:

[Trice]

I think they should release it, I mean they will still be making money off it.

[Tony]

For the record


The board is being released, i should have one this week as will DFI support staff for debugging. After that reviewers will follow.

DFI street has rules, how Angry enforces them is upto him but I will say you follow the rules you have no issues...simple fact...any more post bashing DFI street go straight to trash if I see them so be warned!!

I will try and get more info from LP USA to put your minds at rest.

Tony

[nealh]

For the record


The board is being released, i should have one this week as will DFI support staff for debugging. After that reviewers will follow.

DFI street has rules, how Angry enforces them is upto him but I will say you follow the rules you have no issues...simple fact...any more post bashing DFI street go straight to trash if I see them so be warned!!

I will try and get more info from LP USA to put your minds at rest.

Tony

how soon will it be in the retail channel...

thanks for the update Tony

Personally, I like DFI street but at times they are a bit strict

[zert]

For the record


The board is being released, i should have one this week as will DFI support staff for debugging. After that reviewers will follow.

DFI street has rules, how Angry enforces them is upto him but I will say you follow the rules you have no issues...simple fact...any more post bashing DFI street go straight to trash if I see them so be warned!!

I will try and get more info from LP USA to put your minds at rest.

Tony
thanks for the heads up Tony.

nice to hear the positive news. all these people here saying DFI wont release the board had almost gotten me.

[Tony]

how soon will it be in the retail channel...

thanks for the update Tony

Personally, I like DFI street but at times they are a bit strict \

You have to remember they get questions like...why won't this do that?... and they have no idea what board, cpu, psu etc you are running...that is why you have to have a sig.

You follow the rules and you will NOT have a hard time on there; trust me!

Retail i have no idea, final PCB was last week, boards should be in production now.

As I said I will try and get more soon.

T

[p0tter]

im excited!

[Raja@ASUS]

I'm with Tony, people forget is primarily a DFI tech support forum, letting people run loose without having rules causes a lot of needless posts while people help to try and solve the issue. They are not the marketing section of DFI, that's handled how DFI sees fit, working in tech is a seperate concern, the last thing you need is false hope being given to users before a board is released then have floods of emails requesting rma's due to some kind of miracle overclock not taking place. Further most people that are noobs to dfi boards, and overclocking with them can get great help at that site, at xs the majority are seasoned people who know their way around a bios or two. Testing done here by users on behalf of companies who supply them boards is different, as the needs of the users are not as typical as joe average, so simple screenshots of pi a few 3dmarks and a few bios voltage shots often suffice. The street is primarily for people who are stuck on hardware choices or can't get certain ram to work or need to check the database for overclock help. The more frequent users at the street have helped make it a lot more than just a database, follow the rules and you'll see. We need to realise that we can't treat every forum the same, each has it's use.

Back on topic, I'm hope we'll be seing this board retail by the end of the month, I think DFi has done it's work right and got the right people testing the board before release to help iron out any hard glitches.

regards
Raja

[dab420]

I have been excited for 9 months, now I'm just waiting, in a trance..

[WeaponX]

Thanks Tony, people are just curious and anxious, being left in the dark just plain stinks for some.

This month should be quite interesting with the release of Nvidia's 680i boards, 8800GTX's, DFI's RD600, Intel's Quad Extreme Chips and the finalization of Microsoft's Vista. Although, I still don't believe ATI's claim that the R600 is ready and just waiting for the release of Vista Retail. How can "DAAMIT" just stand there while Nvidia beats the bloody crap out of them for nearly 2 months? Funny, or just plain lies...

[screwtech02]

Thank's Tony, that was the "simple" answer i think everyone interseted in this board was looking for....:woot:

[JoeBar]

That's very good news. Thanks for the heads up Tony! :)

[uclajd]

They do seem to have no concept of PR. No wonder Asus is dominating.

Here's what I want to know: Since nobody has one of these boards even this late in the game, on what basis does everyone think that this is such a great mobo? :confused: Is there any way to know or is this just an article of faith? :confused:

I still have my LanParty 775/875 - not sure what the hell to do with it since my 560J fried.


Oh no, seems the trend over at DFI-Street is to just BAN anyone who posts, just because they have no system "sig".... Kinda like "Your papers appear out of order comrade, NO support fo you today!!"......:rolleyes:

[Raja@ASUS]

its an article of faith atm, great if it works out, and certainly some indicators are already in place.

but if people get false hopes that leads to dissapointment and unhappy customers..

regards
Raja

[Kin Hell]

Thanks Tony & show NO mercy to Flamers @ DFI Street. Alot of forums could do with looking at the way DFI Street manage their slot. I'd rate DFI as a forum for the more Mature & their LP Series of boards are Second to none. These two credentials say it all, ..."E'nuff said."
It's gotta be 3 months waiting for me now & i'm sure, as well as others, ...."We wont be dissapointed!" :D

[icon57]

i have been a dfi user for a few years, and i love all the tweaking options that the LP boards usually have. So, if this board is anything like what they have made in the past, i am sure it will be worth the wait. I will definately be buying one as soon as it hits retail.
....and the guys on dfi-street are my friends and give excellent support, whenever i have needed it....
...a shout out to Tony for setting the record straight!

[camouflage]

:D @Tony:

May the power be with You............:lsfight:

[nealh]

I am a member at DFI street and made as sig as per the rules...I never had any issues and in fact , I have been helped alot over there when I first got my DFI SLI-DR

I am looking forward to there new mobo..as I need something for this e6600 L628A266 sitting on my desk

[Kin Hell]

I am a member at DFI street and made as sig as per the rules...I never had any issues and in fact , I have been helped alot over there when I first got my DFI SLI-DR

I am looking forward to there new mobo..as I need something for this e6600 L628A266 sitting on my desk

Same for me, same board even & same sh1t with E6600 sitting on desk! ;)

[nealh]

Same for me, same board even & same sh1t with E6600 sitting on desk! ;)

LOL..what batch number...I am thinking hard about trying to get a L629B from

[Kin Hell]

LOL..what batch number...I am thinking hard about trying to get a L629B from newegg

SH*t..double post sorry..............

....ES 6600 Stepping 5

[Poodle]

Thanks for the info Tony! :party3:

[screwtech02]

Ok, NDA is up, whats the skinny???:D

[Trice]

yeah give it up!!

[mykeos]

NDA is up for n680i,not rd600...

[icon57]

could wait any more...got the evga 680i coming tomorrow...it looks to be promising.

[Trice]

NDA is up for n680i,not rd600...


Bleh, whens the RD600 coming out?

[mykeos]

i am sure rd600 will be better,but this waiting is killing me,I have a x6800 that will do almost 5ghz on a phase,but can't really use it since I'm waiting for a board that won't need vmods to run 1.8v vcore and will stretch my cellshocks 1000 legs...

[Trice]

I bought my RAM, and am waiting on the CPU and MB. I know Im getting a 6600, but I want to get them at once....

[Booj]

If the RD600 board is not released soon, I'm jumping ship to a 680i board. I would guess that a lot of others will too...

[Ibinco]

I really dont understand the DFI marketeers...680i popping out from all over the place and DFI decide to keep quiet. They are loosing out to other board makers with everyday that goes by. Come on DFI throw us a freaking bone here ;)

[Poodle]

The new Abit i690 has Digital VRM so I'm very tempted to jump ship.


I have two questions though:

1: Will RD600 be less power hungry?

2: Will the RD600 support Quad Core?

[Kin Hell]

The new Abit i690 has Digital VRM so I'm very tempted to jump ship.


I have two questions though:

1: Will RD600 be less power hungry?

2: Will the RD600 support Quad Core?

Boo! :D

[qdemn7]

The new Abit i690 has Digital VRM so I'm very tempted to jump ship. I'm with you. DFI seems to have a stick up it's A##.
Soon as that ABIT board hits the market, I'm buying it. DFI has lost a customer by their screwing around. :slapass:

[Ibinco]

Man i really cant stand all this c o c k teasing! :slapass:

[yaddam205]

The new Abit i690 has Digital VRM so I'm very tempted to jump ship.


As am I.

[bingo13]

Bleh, whens the RD600 coming out?

Shortly, the BIOS is going through final testing at this time and the board will not be released until everyone is satisfied with it.

[rick_fx]

Tony or anyone in the know, what will max vcore be on the dfi rd600 motherboard? :)

[Eldonko]

I'm tired of 20 bugs with every board, and I'm thinking this board will be worth the wait. Oskar Wu FTW. :woot:

[Poodle]

Just found out that the 680i is heavy on the juice... The power consumption in idle is almost as high as an 975x on load. And as the Rd600 is basically a refined 975X I will keep on waiting for the RD600. I also prefer the Lanparty. Always the best bios, period.

[Kin Hell]

Just found out that the 680i is heavy on the juice... The power consumption in idle is almost as high as an 975x on load. And as the Rd600 is basically a refined 975X I will keep on waiting for the RD600. I also prefer the Lanparty. Always the best bios, period.

So, ur Cheese has got grip of the cracker again! :D

[matinez]

It's excited to see all the new 680chipset boards coming up!
I can't even stop refreshing the "today's postings" to see the RD600 board perform or any pics of this beauty :toast:
Also a 680' DFI Lanparty will please me ..!

I hope the RD600 will be on retail within two week or so..
The missing part of my setup!

[JamesAvery22]

The new Abit i690 has Digital VRM so I'm very tempted to jump ship.
...

Is this something new or did you mean 680i? :D

http://www.pcstats.com/releaseview.cfm?ReleaseID=1535

Which does have Digital VRM :)

[Poodle]

Is this something new or did you mean 680i? :D

http://www.pcstats.com/releaseview.cfm?ReleaseID=1535

Which does have Digital VRM :)


LOL! Maybe I've been too heavy on the "juice". :toast:

[Raja@ASUS]

Shortly, the BIOS is going through final testing at this time and the board will not be released until everyone is satisfied with it.


hi-5!

yeah man, see, a company brings a motherboard to market too fast with a buggy bios, it gets nailed.

Then they decide to take their time and bring out a board with a little more testing and they still get nailed. what gives?

A consumer or company can never be kept happy in the motherboard game, it's chicken and egg all the way.

I don't feel I've been screwed by the wait at all..If it's not worth it, then the other motherboards will still be available...

Until I see some real results from trusted friends on these new motherboards, I'm sitting back and waiting for the charlie prices to drop..

regards
Raja

[p0tter]

Wonder what memory the board will favor.... !?

[Raja@ASUS]

i'd expect that micron d9 should work well based on it's popularity among overclockers..

[damnnit]

I jumped ship on the 860i but if this upcomming board is the :banana::banana::banana::banana:. I may just have to build another comp just to have it. P5b at the moment is not impressive.

[Vein]

I'm looking forward to picking up RD600 when it is released. I like the layout of the 680i board, and the performance seems to be pretty good based on the reviews, but I'm more likely to be using an AMD graphics card in crossfire mode than vis versa. I'm not sure if the "extras" on the 680i board are worth their weight in gold either.

[Vein]

P5b at the moment is not impressive.

Lol, I'm currently using the DP965LT Intel board, so don't talk to me about "not impressive." :p:

(As an aside, the board runs rock stable, but 10 bios revisions later it's still not running optimally)

[Praxis1452]

I think the 680i is nice but seriously nvidia needs to work out power consumption on their chipsets. I mean the NForce 4 Ultra's were always complained about being hot. The 975X seems to use about the same amount right? or the 965P even more. Then this chipset uses another 20W. I don't think the chipset should be putting out 40W heat? maybe 50 I guess...

[trans am]

Dudes be courteous to dfi. They want this board released as badly as we do. Dr. Wu is working around the clock to ensure we get a nice bios and everyones happy. He's been drinking gallons of Bawls for days and not sleeping properly. Be nice. THis board is going to kill all! :toast:

[Knight]

I hope! :woot:

[Teratism]

Everyone needs some patience. We have tons of new technology out and coming out so we need to first give it a little room and testing to find out what is king of the hill. I am sure that a lot of us are too broke to go around buying a bunch of boards to test them, so let us give the people who will review these boards some time also, they want the same thing as us in the end and that is the best board out there. Do you really want to jump into the unknown on a hope and a prayer?

[uclajd]

So can we at least know when the NDA will be lifted, or is that under NDA? :lol:

[pumbertot]

all the ship jumpers will be back when r600 crossfire kicks G80 up the ass.

[bingo13]

hi-5!

yeah man, see, a company brings a motherboard to market too fast with a buggy bios, it gets nailed.

Then they decide to take their time and bring out a board with a little more testing and they still get nailed. what gives?

A consumer or company can never be kept happy in the motherboard game, it's chicken and egg all the way.

I don't feel I've been screwed by the wait at all..If it's not worth it, then the other motherboards will still be available...

Until I see some real results from trusted friends on these new motherboards, I'm sitting back and waiting for the charlie prices to drop..

regards
Raja


Very well said. :toast:

There is a full NDA on the product also, would love to speak more about it but we cannot at this time. I am sure news will break here first before we have a chance to put our spin on it. ;)

[Knight]

^ great news, thanks. :toast:

[Trice]

I just got my L628B E6600 tonight, my RAM is comin next week, and I am fighting the 680i hype to see what the DFI RD600 looks like.

[Ibinco]

DFI....lost another long time customer! I went out and ordered the very promising asus striker. They just took 2 long leaking any kind of info on that board whatsoever.They seem to not know the importance of timing when releasing a product(specially in a very competetive niche market).While ASUS,EVGA,ABIT etc already have theirs shipping out, DFI is happy to sit back and not respond @ all.

[erwinz]

i just hope its not as hot as any other boards.. :d for me that is the ticket for this board to succeed.. :woot: i hope DFI is observing their competition.. If they slip a little bit.. they will loose there grounds..

waaaaa.. the waiting is killing me..

[argonmtt]

I'm not worry on whether this Mb will hit the store,, I'm more concern whether DFI will give full support (e. g., fine tune bios) after the released of this "Intel" MB .. :(

[erwinz]

I think they will have full support for this board.. :D i think it will be a LANParty.. :)

[dqniel]

The 680i has been impressive, ATI and DFI have their work cut out :0

[zemzelett]

Heres the latest rumor Linky (http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35657)

If thats true, its to bad they couldnt get it out a bit earlier, although if it does turn out to be the best chipset for the intel chips, it would be kinda funny having your competitor making a better chipset for your own chips.

[775911]

It wouldnt be that surprising if it were, considering how intel controls the market with a leash.

I predict it will be like some crazed freaky frankenstein of a board, one boot it'll do 600fsb x11 stable and the next it'll be sparking and making horrible high pitched whining noises from the capicitors, filling the air with the smell of burnt ozone :flame::wierd:

[erwinz]

I hope its not "Intel" pride..

really looking forward for this.. :)

[zert]

i really hope we will get full driver support from AMD/ATI on this board.
i would hate my pc being instable just because the drivers suck c:banana: :banana: :banana:

[argonmtt]

Do you think the DFI engineers facing too much pressures due to the "extremely" high expectation of the RD600?? that why they keep tuning the bios .. :D just my thought..

[hoodlikegaza]

who gives a :banana::banana::banana::banana: if it overclocks high if your only multiple gpu option is going to be dated crossfire. Who is going to buy a platform that is already eclipsed months before its even out. Good luck waiting another 3 or 4 months for those r600 video cards.

[775911]

Do you think the DFI engineers facing too much pressures due to the "extremely" high expectation of the RD600?? that why they keep tuning the bios .. :D just my thought..

I believe whoever said it was allready in production, they can release bios code later. Will they ever look to revise the board version though if needed..

[Gunder]

Nvidia has come out of nowhere and delivered the smackdown with G80 and 680i... I'm getting that very special upgrade itch in the groin... dont know how much longer I can last... anyone would think DFI and ATI were trying to release Duke Nukem Forever

[Gunder]

Ask and yea shall receive

AMD's first Intel mobo to arrive in December

DFI preps RD600 board


http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35657

[hoodlikegaza]

Yeah I seem to remember the same exact things being said since august. :banana::banana::banana::banana: the rumors, they haven't even had ES samples as of yet. Honestly I was waiting for this board, but now it can kiss my ass. IMHO, anyone still waiting for this board is about 2 months too late. There's much better options out NOW.

[Quentin]

I waiting since august too, and I'm very boring of my beta motherboard(oups... motherboard) asus p5wdh :mad:

[bingo13]

Yeah I seem to remember the same exact things being said since august. :banana::banana::banana::banana: the rumors, they haven't even had ES samples as of yet. Honestly I was waiting for this board, but now it can kiss my ass. IMHO, anyone still waiting for this board is about 2 months too late. There's much better options out NOW.

They have had ES samples out for several weeks. I can promise you this board has gone through extensive testing, several design improvement cylces, and a BIOS tuning exercise that has been incredible. It is later than originally planned but will probably hit the market before most of the "custom" 680i boards. Of course, none of this matters if it does not perform up to expectations. I think it will for the most part. ;)

[Knight]

Bingo13, are you allowed to tell when the NDA is up?