Gigabyte GA-965P-DQ6 FAQ [Archive] - XtremeSystems Forums

BigSteve

08-14-2006, 07:07 AM

There are these other useful threads, but no DQ6 specific thread.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=110460
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=106685
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=109719

As Lestat noted "the DQ6 still hasn't matured as far as the DS3 has, and only Gigabyte knows why. Personally with your current line-up it was a waste to go with the DQ6 but thats just my thoughts."

I sure hope Gigabyte fixes up their flagship board. The supposed advantage the DQ6 is the 12 phase power (and the northbridge heat pipe), but what is the point, if people are getting better OC with Gigabyte's very own cheaper boards. One reason to get a DS3 instead of an S3 is the Dxx boards have solid capacitors. Not sure what the DS4 brings to the table; its not sold everywhere yet, maybe just in the UK.

DQ6 owners, please post your results and associated BIOS changes.

Here are some other observations that may apply to the all the new Gigabyte boards.

1. To add access to the advanced features of your gigabyte BIOS, you have to hit ctl-F1. If you use a USB KVM switch, it may screw up some keyboard keys so you'll just have to plug an old non-USB keyboard into the back.

2. If you want a multiplier of 1:1, of course, you set the system memory multiplier to 2. Probably because its DDR2 memory. I guess with DDR3 we'll be setting it to 3. In any event, this will help you OC because for some reason on my board it ended up (not by me) at 2:3 (not 3:2) which will limit your OC.

3. You'll need to download the excellent CPU-Z tool from cpuid.org. If you want memory timings of 5-5-5-15 set the first 4 guys in the MIT section of the BIOS (you hit ctl-f1 first right?) to those numbers. cpu-z will now report 3-5-5-15 with some brands of memory, but it means 5, not 3 honest. Also, for some new CPUs e.g. the e6600 it will report a multiplier of 6.0. But if you run some software it will jump up to 9.0. There is a forum at cpuid.org. You may need to read through the forums for this and other tools. There's a tool that lets you change memory timings on the fly too, I forget the name. Also you should get Easy-Tune from Gigabyte and at least monitor temperatures with that or something better.

4. On the non-OC level, there are 2 issues. Get the Realtek Azalia audio drivers straight from Realtek website, Gigabyte has some old ones up that didn't work for me. The larger issue is to get real clear on if you want your hard drives in 1. IDE emulation 2. AHCI SATA (no raid) or 3. RAID. Either way, you'll need to put the drivers on a floppy and hit F6 during the XP install. (Or roll a slipstream install). I hear its possible to switch after the fact without re-installing XP but I haven't succeeded; the intel driver installer won't unpack the drivers since I'm set up for ATA, a chicken-and-egg problem. I think (1.) may not let you take advantage of SATA-II burst speeds.

For all of that, I'm still stuck at 340 (3.08Ghz), it may post at 360 but XP is unhappy. This is with 5-5-5-15 timings (3-5-5-15 according to cpu-z 1.35) and 1:1 memory ratio. I wonder if its worth relaxing the memory timings but keeping the ratio, to try to get more FSB?

Hope this helps any novices that wander in here; good luck and happy OC'ing!

PS More DQ6 links...

http://www1.oc.com.tw/forums/msgexce...217193&itype=1 400FSB max

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=49453&d=1153361722

I am hopeful that a BIOS will improve my situation (340 FSB) but at the moment it appears that the DQ6 is the runt of the Gigabyte boards for OC, and the E6600 (unless you have an Engineering Sample) retail stepping 6 is the runt of the Allendale/Conroe CPUs. Right now the bang for the buck seems to be the DS3 motherboard and an Allendale (E6300 or 6400) CPU - save $100 on each and get higher GHz to boot. However, any DQ6 owners, stay tuned for a new BIOS (there are E3 betas out now) and please post your results, questions, and answers in this thread!

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=110532

mele

08-14-2006, 08:57 AM

OEM 6600 with OCZ PC2-5400.
Watercooled.

I'm stuck at 340 also.

I cannot go over +.325v without a "DDR18V Failed" message.

I'm going to try some PC6400 and see if I can get to 400.

I could live with that.

BigSteve

08-14-2006, 10:25 AM

It looks like you have the F3g BIOS and it didn't help. I have PC-6400 and it didn't help. What stepping is your CPU (cpu-z should say)?

I don't want to be negative, but we may be snakebit twice. E6600 stepping 6, and DQ6 motherboard. I fear that you may upgrade your memory, then upgrade your board (down to a DS3) and still be S.O.L. I haven't seen results of the E6600 stepping 6 on the DS3 or DS4 (mostly Allendales, with strong results) or on ASUS or Intel boards. I do wonder if this stepping 6 CPU is the weak link.

On a positive note, Anandtech reported "...we were able to clock this board to an impressive 376FSB. Gigabyte has sent us test results with a new B2 stepping 6 X6800 showing a fully stable system running at 6X498 with the current D27 BIOS. The board ran extremely cool during our overclocking tests indicating a well engineered heat pipe system, although the area around the CPU would need to be actively cooled if a liquid cooling system is utilized. During testing for the maximum FSB clock we ran into the BIOS issues and were not able to extend past the reported 376FSB due to our inability to set the MCH and FSB termination voltages. The only other noticeable drawback in overclocking this board is the lock on increasing the CPU multiplier when utilizing the X6800. We look forward to providing a full review of this board in the near future." http://anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2797&p=8

BigSteve

08-15-2006, 06:04 AM

I'm running the board (see my config below) at 333 FSB = 3 Ghz. Memory ratio is 1:1 (set it to 2 to get this) and timings are 5-5-5-15 (XP disliked 4-4-4-12) on the g.skill HZ. The fans all spin at 1000RPM and the CPU and mobo are 44 Celsius. You'd sure think it could go faster. But hey, its faster than the socket A computer it replaced...

If you have a DQ6, please share what chip you have and what speeds you get. If you have an E6600 stepping 6 on another board (bad-axe, DS3...) would also like to hear your results. Trying to decide if the stepping, the DQ6, or the BIOS is to blame.

I guess we may not get much traffic in this thread, as they say here in Taiwan, "birds don't sh*t or die there", since most people were smart enough to wait for early results and learn to avoid this combination. I should probably look at that cpu-z database to see if anyone is getting any mileage out of the CPU stepping. http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php#validation Hmmm... it doesn't tell us what steppings are getting what OC...

BigSteve

08-15-2006, 07:15 AM

Hellooooooo... anybody out there... hellooooooo... F3 BIOS is out for the DQ6:

http://tw.giga-byte.com/Support/Motherboard/BIOS_Model.aspx?ProductID=2295

*Please remember to "Load Optimize Defaults" (in the BIOS Setup) after updating new BIOS.

There are lots of ways to install that BIOS. Don't do it live while OC'ed. Maybe its time to figure out how this dual-BIOS works, one of the few advantages afforded DQ6 owners.

ElBobbo

08-15-2006, 05:58 PM

I recently got a DQ6 with an E6300, and I was stuck at the 350MHz FSB limit too, with a pair of DDR2-533 1GB sticks from Crucial. However, flashing to the F3G bios (and it took a great deal of effort, for some reason, to get anything to flash at all, had to resort to buying a floppy drive) has completely changed the situation:

I'm now running at 3.5GHz with the memory at 1GHz and the FSB at 500MHz; absolutely fantastic, considering the memory's only rated at 600MHz. Anyway, the vcore is 1.55V and vdimm is 0.325V (anything higher rates a 'fail' in the PC health section*) with the MCH and FSB at 0.2V up.

Now I'm just looking forward to getting a lower memory divider so I can really see the limit. It seems, in my opinion, very nearsighted to only provide a 1:1 divider.

So grateful for the F3G bios!

*What's up with the PC health section? Would it be so hard to provide the figures? What does 'OK' mean? :(

BigSteve

08-16-2006, 08:13 AM

I'm a gonna try the F3 bios. Its on the gigabyte site, some say its basically F3G beta. I hit the del-key, hit the F8-key, backed up the F2 bios, installed F3 as backup bios*, booted into it, and immediately hit del-key so I could load optimized defaults. Well, it seems to work. Will report OC results soon.

*Says the checksum is 3469, which is great, but there's nothing on the gigabyte website to confirm this against. You guys getting 3469 checksum?

Dystopian God

08-16-2006, 06:38 PM

any updates on OCing with F3 bios?

mele

08-16-2006, 06:41 PM

D@mn Gigabyte S$IT!!!

Can no longer disable EIST in F3 release!!!!

mele

08-16-2006, 07:07 PM

Upon further investigation it seems that if VCore is set to 1.45 or higher EIST cannot be disabled now.

GAM

08-16-2006, 08:26 PM

DQ6 (F3), E6400 (retail) B2, G.Skill 2GB PC6400 HZ, Big Typhoon

Stats from Everest.

E6400 @ 3280MHz (dual prime tested 2hrs only(not failed), 3200 tested 8hrs+)

FSB: 410MHz (1:1 - 5 5 5 15)

VCore (BIOS): 1.28-1.31 (1.35)
VDimm (BIOS): 1.92 (+.1)

Temps (18-22c ambient)
MB: 18-45c
CPU Core(1/2): 37-55c

Note, temps fluctuate a lot as much as 10c. BIOS often often reports CPU up to 3c < MB. Something not right there.

Flashed from F3e to F3 via @BIOS, not probs. Didn't 'restore defaults' or change oc settings. (FSB 400 at that time with stock voltage, 1:1 4 4 4 12)

Tried with F3:
FSB 425 stock voltage. Boots, fails Prime <5mins
FSB 425 VCore 1.375, VDimm +0.1. Boots, fails Prime <5mins
FSB 420 VCore 1.375, VDimm +0.1. Boots, fails Prime <5mins

Wasn't in the mood so jumped right back to 410. Haven't tried again.

Hope this info helps.

BTW, very happy with this board, cpu, ram combo.

Note, originally started with A-Data Vitesta 533 and stock HSF. Was able to go to 2.8GHz (not trying too hard due to temps, core hitting 60c). Couldn't do that with D805 and GA-i945Pro.

Sensors are a bit of an issue with this board/chipset/cpu (either or all). Everest seems good-majority of sensor readings seem accurate. Tried Speedfan (next best), MBM, CPU-Z, PC Wizard all which exhibited pecularities.

Cheers

GAM

08-16-2006, 09:30 PM

...
4. On the non-OC level, there are 2 issues. Get the Realtek Azalia audio drivers straight from Realtek website, Gigabyte has some old ones up that didn't work for me. The larger issue is to get real clear on if you want your hard drives in 1. IDE emulation 2. AHCI SATA (no raid) or 3. RAID. Either way, you'll need to put the drivers on a floppy and hit F6 during the XP install. (Or roll a slipstream install). I hear its possible to switch after the fact without re-installing XP but I haven't succeeded; the intel driver installer won't unpack the drivers since I'm set up for ATA, a chicken-and-egg problem. I think (1.) may not let you take advantage of SATA-II burst speeds.
...

Just wanted to relay my successful experience on this:

I migrated my existing OS drive ex GA-8i945Pro, D805, SATA2 running in IDE mode to the new MB/CPU combo with BIOS set to IDE. Booted up no problem, ignored 'found new hardware' messages, installed drivers from GB CD, rebooted no problem.

[EDIT]Originally, on GA-8i945Pro, F6 was not required during OS install with storage controller in 'IDE' mode, despite SATA drives. Supplying additional drivers should only be required if installing OS to 'RAID' or 'AHCI' mode enabled controller.

As pointed out, you can't install Intel Matrix Storage Drivers (Intel drivers for AHCI) unless you have AHCI enabled. Well, to resolve the 'chicken before the egg' problem, I did the following:

-Switched the OS Drive/SATA connector to the Gigabyte SATA/IDE controller (Purple headers)

In BIOS
-Set 'On-board SATA/IDE Device' to 'Enabled'
-Set 'On-board SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode' to 'IDE'
-Changed 'SATA RAID/AHCI Mode' to 'AHCI'
-Changed 'SATA Port 0-3 Native Mode' to 'Native'
(not sure about the difference/effects between 'native' and 'legacy'. Nothing immediately noticeable in Windows)
-Changed boot order in BIOS, accordingly
(Can't remember whether I needed to reboot first and go back into BIOS to set this correctly.)
-Booted to Windows

Now you should be running from your OS drive in 'IDE' mode but you have AHCI enabled storage controllers (nothing attached)

In Windows
-Installed Intel Matrix Storage drivers from GB CD or Intel site download.
-Rebooted for good measure.
-Shutdown/Power off.

-Switched the OS Drive/SATA connector BACK to the Intel/ICH8 SATA controller (Yellow headers)
-Boot into BIOS

In BIOS
-Changed boot order in BIOS back to SATA/SCSI port where your OS drive is now connected (one of the yellow ones I hope)
-Reboot to Windows

All good, hot swap, native command queing enabled and working.

I hope this helps.

Cheers

BigSteve

08-17-2006, 01:46 AM

GAM that rocks, what a great idea, use the extra controller, I will try that.

Bottom line is I am back at 333 with the F3 bios, but lamely enough I have yet to try to push it further. Interestingly, the memory timings now show correctly in cpuz. [edit] F3 has busted me through to 350 FSB!

I went to http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php and downloaded cpu-z, then also got a copy of super-pi and ran that to make the CPU run at non-idle speed, then back in cpu-z I went through all 5 screen and hit the F5-key, which creates .bmp screen shots in the cpu-z directory. To shrink these to the 200KB required by xtremesystems, I installed http://www.cygwin.com/ including imagemagick, so I could use the mogrify command to shrink them. But then I realized it would be easier to just change the display to 8-bit resolution and re-do the cpuz screen shots, so here they are. When you use the advanced reply you can add attachments. People, put up some screen shots! Helps us understand all the details of your config.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=50262http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=50263http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=50264http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=50265http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=50266

BigSteve

08-17-2006, 08:33 AM

With the F3 BIOS, I've been booting XP at 350. I pushed to 380 with EasyTune, 390 crashed the computer (at 1:1 and 5-5-5-15 and stock voltages). Will see if XP can be happy at 380.

mele

08-17-2006, 01:26 PM

Upon further investigation it seems that if VCore is set to 1.45 or higher EIST cannot be disabled now.

OK I found the cuplrit!

CrystalCPUID50Beta

Ran this today after a complete reinstall and ESIT is enabled even though it's
disables in BIOS.

Mel

Richard Dower

08-17-2006, 01:37 PM

BigSteve, i need more info on your bios settings for you to get 333FSB, i haven't been able to get this. What bios settings do you have?, voltages?, VCore etc?

Richard Dower

08-17-2006, 01:38 PM

Your HZ memory is rated to run 4-4-4-12 at 800MHz, so why do you have it at 5-5-5-15?

BigSteve

08-17-2006, 07:34 PM

BigSteve, i need more info on your bios settings for you to get 333FSB, i haven't been able to get this. What bios settings do you have?, voltages?, VCore etc?
I haven't played with the voltages at all. Only BIOS settings were to Apply Optimized Defaults as a baseline, then I merely changed the 4 memory timings, changed the multiplier to 2 (= 1:1), and changed the FSB to 333. It might help if I fool with the voltages, but I've not found many e6600 (non-ES, i.e. stepping 6 and up) users with better results on any motherboard, but I'd love to find that, and see what motherboard they're using and what speeds they're getting.

I couldn't get over 340, until I put in the F3 BIOS. Now I can boot Windows at at least 350, will try for more. I realize these numbers are all small potatoes to Allendale (6300 and 6400) wimpy-cache owners, but every MHz counts!

I put up all those screens in case someone would see something. Looking at it, I thought the SPD screen was telling me that at 400Mhz the g.skill wants 5-5-5-15. In any event, when I try for 4-4-4-12 (all of this at 1:1 ratio) it won't POST.

I wonder, should I go like 6-6-6-18, or for a worse ratio, to try to get higher FSB, assuming that my goal is simply to have a powerful daily use system rather than to set any drag-strip funny-car nitro-fueled dry-ice records. And what benchmark I should be using for that, and also to have a fair bottom line comparison between Conroes with 2MB vs 4MB cache.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=50266

Richard, can you edit your signature on this board to include your system details, it will help everyone to help you.

N15M0

08-17-2006, 07:57 PM

Just wanted to relay my successful experience on this:

I migrated my existing OS drive ex GA-8i945Pro, D805, SATA2 running in IDE mode to the new MB/CPU combo with BIOS set to IDE. Booted up no problem, ignored 'found new hardware' messages, installed drivers from GB CD, rebooted no problem.

[EDIT]Originally, on GA-8i945Pro, F6 was not required during OS install with storage controller in 'IDE' mode, despite SATA drives. Supplying additional drivers should only be required if installing OS to 'RAID' or 'AHCI' mode enabled controller.

As pointed out, you can't install Intel Matrix Storage Drivers (Intel drivers for AHCI) unless you have AHCI enabled. Well, to resolve the 'chicken before the egg' problem, I did the following:

-Switched the OS Drive/SATA connector to the Gigabyte SATA/IDE controller (Purple headers)

In BIOS
-Set 'On-board SATA/IDE Device' to 'Enabled'
-Set 'On-board SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode' to 'IDE'
-Changed 'SATA RAID/AHCI Mode' to 'AHCI'
-Changed 'SATA Port 0-3 Native Mode' to 'Native'
(not sure about the difference/effects between 'native' and 'legacy'. Nothing immediately noticeable in Windows)
-Changed boot order in BIOS, accordingly
(Can't remember whether I needed to reboot first and go back into BIOS to set this correctly.)
-Booted to Windows

Now you should be running from your OS drive in 'IDE' mode but you have AHCI enabled storage controllers (nothing attached)

In Windows
-Installed Intel Matrix Storage drivers from GB CD or Intel site download.
-Rebooted for good measure.
-Shutdown/Power off.

-Switched the OS Drive/SATA connector BACK to the Intel/ICH8 SATA controller (Yellow headers)
-Boot into BIOS

In BIOS
-Changed boot order in BIOS back to SATA/SCSI port where your OS drive is now connected (one of the yellow ones I hope)
-Reboot to Windows

All good, hot swap, native command queing enabled and working.

I hope this helps.

Cheers

I only have to do this step if I want to use AHCI? Do I have to do this if I use the hdd without AHCI and raid?

GAM

08-17-2006, 08:06 PM

I only have to do this step if I want to use AHCI? Do I have to do this if I use the hdd without AHCI and raid?
Nope.

orion23

08-17-2006, 08:25 PM

Why is it that this GSKill ram, the PC2 6400 2GBHZ or 1GBHZ with 4-4-4-12 SPD shows up as 5-5-5-15 under CPU-Z for so many of us?

It did for me with the DQ6 and with a Badaxe.

And I've seen many others using the same ram and their SPDs read the correct 4-4-4-12.

Did we get a bad batch? Is this normal? WTF?

N15M0

08-17-2006, 08:28 PM

Ok thanks cos I just install window without pressing the F6. BTW what do they mean by IDE emulation? Also do I need to install any driver to let the hdd to run in sata II?

GAM

08-17-2006, 08:40 PM

Orion 23, I set safe timings to 5 5 5 15 during initial testing. Currenty dual-prime testing E6400@425 1.4v - 4 4 4 12.

N15MO, couldn't give you definitive explanations other than 'emulates IDE standards', however, I had SATA2 drives connected using IDE and then subsequently using AHCI (supporting new SATA2 features) and difference in bench speeds was not significant. So I don't believe SATA2 drives are limited in raw speed due to IDE emulation. If you want to enable AHCI later (not having loaded the drivers during install via F6) you will need to do something like I suggested in my post on enabling AHCI.

BTW, if you didn't hit F6 and the Windows installer couldn't see any hard drives, then you would need to start again and load the additional drivers during install using F6, floppies, etc.

BigSteve

08-17-2006, 11:47 PM

Orion 23, I set safe timings to 5 5 5 15 during initial testing. Currenty dual-prime testing E6400@425 1.4v - 4 4 4 12.

...I had SATA2 drives connected using IDE and then subsequently using AHCI (supporting new SATA2 features) and difference in bench speeds was not significant.
IMHO GAM is right, though I stil believe IDE emulation mode limits the disks to 150... but that most SATA II drives only exceed this while in "burst mode". The other advantage of AHCI is you can use NCQ if your SATA II drive supports NCQ, though some argue that NCQ is only useful for server workloads and that for desktop workloads it can actually slow you down.

The reason I believe I can't use have to use 5-5-5-15 is due to the SPD numbers here. Though cpu-z and the BIOS have disagreed before and shown odd numbers, in fact the 4-4-4-10 is a bit odd too.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=50266
GAM, are you using some program (which?) to change the memory timings AFTER XP comes up?

GAM

08-18-2006, 12:02 AM

Nope, all in BIOS. ET5 is not functioning. I read somewhere to reset all bios settings to default, boot up, install ET5, reboot and should work. Well, it didn't.

On another note, having trouble pushing over 425fsb. 435-438 boots, dual-primes for 5-30mins, then blue screen. Last attempt was 435, with 1.45v Vcore and +0.1 for all except Vdimm +0.3v

fenomenhaa

08-18-2006, 03:37 AM

Dq6 f3 final bios.
E6300 step6 r2>485fsb all stock easily
e6600 step6 r2 only 360fsb??:slapass:
Dq6 very bad mobo for 6600.Anyone pushes over 360+fsb with e6600 on DQ6??

BigSteve

08-18-2006, 04:17 AM

I guess right now, mostly step6 chips for sale. (how can you tell from the box before you buy it?)

So what is the best solution for daily bang-for-the buck, with step6? 6300, 6400, 6600, 6700, 6800? And would you put it on a DQ6, DS3 or a bad-axe or ASUS?

And... is there a different motherboard that could redeem my e6600 step6? Are there people with e6600 stepping 6 CPU's that are getting better OC's. If the stepping is the problem, more motherboards won't help. But I'd love to be proved wrong. TProblem is most people are running 6300's or 6400's, or ES (stepping 5 or less Engineering Sample) 6600's.

If anyone is getting any juice out of the e6600 step6, I could move my e6600 to that board, and drop a cheap e6300 into the DQ6, people are clearly getting some nice results.

xmsmmgr

08-18-2006, 04:17 AM

Air Cooling (AC freezer 7)
Dq6 (biosf3)
e6300 (s6-r2)
Corsair 6400cl4 (micron d9)
mchv +300
505 fsb 1m
http://resim.donanimhaber.com/upfiles/12789/4F9D709C78B546EB96889045008577D6.jpg

Daily 486fsb, 3.4ghz prime95, superpi32m full stable.

BigSteve

08-18-2006, 04:21 AM

Nice work xmsmmgr!

2 questions: what does the CPU tab on cpu-z say is your CPU stepping?
And at what speed can you boot Windows (before EasyTune)? 486fsb?

xmsmmgr

08-18-2006, 04:27 AM

http://resim.donanimhaber.com/upfiles/12789/822D26D3831443D9AE753DB20DDBDADE.jpg
stebbing 6, revision b2
500-501fsb bootable:D

mikeguava

08-18-2006, 11:10 PM

Dq6 f3 final bios.
E6300 step6 r2>485fsb all stock easily
e6600 step6 r2 only 360fsb??:slapass:
Dq6 very bad mobo for 6600.Anyone pushes over 360+fsb with e6600 on DQ6??

if you drop the multi higher FSB should be attainable ( BUT WITH CLOCKGEN ONLY ) Biggest handicap is your memory - it HAS to be able to do 1000mhz+ in order to keep up with FSB

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/8282/fsbyd1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

If your CPU+Cooling is good you can also use the stock multi:

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6876/cpu4508te8.png (http://imageshack.us)

This was an ES - but a good retail can do just as well....

fenomenhaa

08-19-2006, 02:05 AM

if you drop the multi higher FSB should be attainable ( BUT WITH CLOCKGEN ONLY ) Biggest handicap is your memory - it HAS to be able to do 1000mhz+ in order to keep up with FSB

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/8282/fsbyd1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

If your CPU+Cooling is good you can also use the stock multi:

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6876/cpu4508te8.png (http://imageshack.us)

This was an ES - but a good retail can do just as well....

My 6400Hz easily goes to 1050 4-4-3-x @just only 2.2v..I think it's not ram issue..your cpu is step 5 b1 and this is the key issue..I see a lot of retail 6600[step6 b2) all of them as same es with dq6-ds4:slapass: cpu+cooling is custom waterchiller and water temp is 22-27 daily..Cpu+NB+VGa cooled by waterchiller...

mikeguava

08-19-2006, 02:14 AM

My 6400Hz easily goes to 1050 4-4-3-x @just only 2.2v..I think it's not ram issue..your cpu is step 5 b1 and this is the key issue..I see a lot of retail 6600[step6 b2) all of them as same es with dq6-ds4:slapass: cpu+cooling is custom waterchiller and water temp is 22-27 daily..Cpu+NB+VGa cooled by waterchiller...

sorry - didn't mean to refer to " your " memory - but memory in general. Obviously you mem is good enough if you can take it up there with a E6400.

As you can see the above CPUZ is with a retail E6600 on air - I am very certain that this retail will also reach around 4.5GHZ under phasechange cooling - here a quick air shot - only for clock check- not a fast PI time....

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/3247/6600gz1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Try to start off booting with a LOW FSB ( eg 300 ) and use clockgen. With early E6700 retails I have seen some weird stuff on this board- but with the latest Conroe even on an E 6700 500FSB is attainable on the DQ6.

BigSteve

08-19-2006, 02:43 AM

Just wanted to relay my successful experience on this:

As pointed out, you can't install Intel Matrix Storage Drivers (Intel drivers for AHCI) unless you have AHCI enabled. Well, to resolve the 'chicken before the egg' problem, I did the following:

-Switched the OS Drive/SATA connector to the Gigabyte SATA/IDE controller (Purple headers)

In BIOS
-Set 'On-board SATA/IDE Device' to 'Enabled'
-Set 'On-board SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode' to 'IDE'
-Changed 'SATA RAID/AHCI Mode' to 'AHCI'
-Changed 'SATA Port 0-3 Native Mode' to 'Native'
(not sure about the difference/effects between 'native' and 'legacy'. Nothing immediately noticeable in Windows)
-Changed boot order in BIOS, accordingly
(Can't remember whether I needed to reboot first and go back into BIOS to set this correctly.)
-Booted to Windows

Now you should be running from your OS drive in 'IDE' mode but you have AHCI enabled storage controllers (nothing attached)

In Windows
-Installed Intel Matrix Storage drivers from GB CD or Intel site download.
-Rebooted for good measure.
-Shutdown/Power off.

-Switched the OS Drive/SATA connector BACK to the Intel/ICH8 SATA controller (Yellow headers)
-Boot into BIOS

In BIOS
-Changed boot order in BIOS back to SATA/SCSI port where your OS drive is now connected (one of the yellow ones I hope)
-Reboot to Windows

All good, hot swap, native command queing enabled and working.

GAM you rock, this worked like a charm. Just a few notes: most of the BIOS changes are in the Integrated Peripherals section. I'm not sure the 'SATA Port 0-3 Native Mode' matters for us since it changes this between 'Native IDE Mode' or 'Legacy IDE Mode' and we are out of the IDE business at that point. I didn't even mess with the boot order since there was only one drive plugged in on the system and it seemed to find it wherever I plugged in. The file I downloaded and installed from Gigabyte was called motherboard_driver_raid_intel_ICH8r.exe

BigSteve

08-19-2006, 02:57 AM

sorry - didn't mean to refer to " your " memory - but memory in general. Obviously you mem is good enough if you can take it up there with a E6400.

As you can see the above CPUZ is with a retail E6600 on air...

Try to start off booting with a LOW FSB ( eg 300 ) and use clockgen. With early E6700 retails I have seen some weird stuff on this board- but with the latest Conroe even on an E 6700 500FSB is attainable on the DQ6.
Do you think g.skill HZ will cut the mustard?
You say boot at 300, then you crank it to 430.
What other BIOS changes first? Voltages? Memory ratio and timings?

Right now I am booting XP at 360 FSB, but EasyTune won't go above 380.
We have same CPU and motherboard. How do you do it?

I saw a Kentfield at a gaming competition today.
Also saw an E6600 step 6 ES for sale, but they only showed 50% OC.

unit365

08-19-2006, 04:03 AM

Hello all

i use a DQ6 with a X6800 an a water symphony with a volcano 4005

1 - Bios F3, unlock multiplier to 16, before locked to 11
2 - This mobo is a big :banana::banana::banana::banana: when rebooting. All component takes shoots. Hard disk don't like how this mobo reboot and more when an overclock fail. i will change it when i will found one so good. (tested P5B dlx and P5WDH)
3 - My X6800 run at 445*8 ram is set to 1113 in the bios. Good perf but pushning the 6800 at 3.7 or 3.8 is impossible in the bios. the DQ6 won't boot. But in XP, with tune prog, it run at 3.7 perfectly ans stable !! What's on ??? Hey i stop my machine sometimes....
4 - Set you ram by SPD you will win stability with F3 bios

by the way many problems, maybe solved by new bioses, but i won't keep it and will try AW9D MAX.

i think there is many problems with retail conroes and bioses. too much test we have seen with ES, now it's time with retail.

mele

08-19-2006, 11:42 AM

mele

08-19-2006, 12:37 PM

Well...I have the F4a for my DQ6.

Booted into 400FSB one time and cannot not do it again.

I still think there are some problems with the DQ6 and the Nvidia 7900 series cards.

That or all of the damn rebooting the damn bios has been doing has screwed up my XFX 7900 GTX!!

I can't play any damn games with out it artifacting or just plain locking up!!! When I try to exit a game the card will not change back to my desktop settings.....it just keeps flashing all kinds of crap on the screen.

I'm about to tell Gigabyte to go and :banana::banana::banana::banana: themselves and get me a ASUS P5B.

Mel

Well....I'll be damned...

My video card problems seemed to be power related. Even though my PSU is 700W and quad SLI rated with seperate PCI connectors it must have not been getting enough power.

I used a PCI-e adapter cable that came with another card I have and used it to supply power from two different rails.

Seems to be working fine now.

Not to try overclocking again.

Mel

fenomenhaa

08-19-2006, 03:21 PM

s
Try to start off booting with a LOW FSB ( eg 300 ) and use clockgen. With early E6700 retails I have seen some weird stuff on this board- but with the latest Conroe even on an E 6700 500FSB is attainable on the DQ6.
Already try all of them but haven't got any improvement.sorry for fisrt ss I didnt see it:eek:
Another issue I didn^t give 1.6vcore in bios via easytune.f3 final f3g f4A same..

DeToNaToR.cl

08-19-2006, 07:08 PM

I discovered (well not really me a friend with my board) that if you are using memory with Certain IC's DQ6 will be stuck at 320-340 FSB...

Then if you change mem and use F3A Bios, FSB Will raise..

Corsair Crappy RAM (5400LED I think) = 320FSB tried up to mch +0.7v and It wont get a single mhz

Geil DDR800 = 475FSB Bios Boot About vmch 0.3v+

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8775/475x72mme5.th.png (http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=475x72mme5.png)

:D SBI

BigSteve

08-20-2006, 01:08 AM

I was running at 3.24Ghz on e6600 step6... XP booted fine... but I discovered I'm not dual-prime stable. Backed off and will report stable results when I get them.

The DS4 was only sold in Europe, looks like its coming to Asia in a week, not sure about America. This board is in between the DS3 and the DQ6 in price and features. Has DS3 audio. Does not have 12 phase power of DQ6 so may not run Kentsfield (though, they said the 12 phase made for better OC and that has not been our experience overall). Has fancy heat-pipe of DQ6.

mikeguava

08-20-2006, 02:21 AM

Already try all of them but haven't got any improvement.sorry for fisrt ss I didnt see it:eek:
Another issue I didn^t give 1.6vcore in bios via easytune.f3 final f3g f4A same..

I am not using easytune - but clockgen ( www.cupid.com ) AFAIK easytune doesn't allow more than 1.6V vcore set in BIOS

One thing to be carful with is using too high FSB voltages - can get your bios stuck quickly ( and/or harm you max FSB on this board )

I use about +0.65V MCH and +0.15V FSB

Booting low FSB for me only to avoid having the BIOS get stuck in the endless reboot circle. I can boot 470 into Windows from BIOS - but only once - next restart will require clear CMOS - and I am sick of it....dunno how many times I have reset this BIOS...

mele

08-20-2006, 10:53 AM

I am not using easytune - but clockgen ( www.cupid.com ) AFAIK easytune doesn't allow more than 1.6V vcore set in BIOS

One thing to be carful with is using too high FSB voltages - can get your bios stuck quickly ( and/or harm you max FSB on this board )

I use about +0.65V MCH and +0.15V FSB

Booting low FSB for me only to avoid having the BIOS get stuck in the endless reboot circle. I can boot 470 into Windows from BIOS - but only once - next restart will require clear CMOS - and I am sick of it....dunno how many times I have reset this BIOS...

So how do you do this?

Do you set your voltages in bios and after bootup use Clockgen to up the FSB?

Also, which version of Clockgen do you use? I can't seem to change any setting more than once.

Thanks,

Mel

mikeguava

08-21-2006, 01:25 AM

So how do you do this?

Do you set your voltages in bios and after bootup use Clockgen to up the FSB?

Also, which version of Clockgen do you use? I can't seem to change any setting more than once.

Thanks,

Mel

I set all my voltages in BIOS

For example for FSB 490 3Dmarking I have these general settings:

Vcore 1.58
FSB:300
Mem: 2.0 ( 1:1)
Vdimm +0.5 ( do not exeed 0.55V - can cause hangup - if trying to raise above +0.55 only raise the Vdmm individually without touching any other settings)
Vmch: +0.65 ( first I set it to +0.40 - next boot I raise it higher )
vPCI-E: +0.20V
Vfsb: +0.15 ( do not exeed 0.15V - can cause hangup - if trying to raise above +0.15 only raise the Vfsb individually - without touching any other settings)

I actually don't touch VFSB + VPCI-E until I have most other settings set and rebooted at least once

In Windows I use clockgen to raise to the desired FSB. Forgot the name of the PLL - you have to select the correct PLL first before you can use clockgen. I think it ends with 509...sorry already broke down the rig getting it ready to sell...

BigSteve

08-21-2006, 04:27 AM

mele: I have same g.skill. Maybe try 5-5-5-15 in BIOS (hit ctl-F1 first as you probably know). Also be sure to go for dual-prime test. I had to back off a bit when I realized I wasn't stable.

mikeguava: hey where are you selling it... do you have specs like mele and I do in our signatures... you're dual-prime stable?

BigSteve

08-28-2006, 10:08 PM

You know, you can adjust the multiplier DOWN with many boards, including the DQ6. I can set my e6600 to 6, 7, 8, or 9 and so can you. cpu-z reports my setting of 8 correctly, but EasyTune incorrectly uses 9 and reports my CPU speed as 333Mhz high. Still, I'm having trouble passing dual-prime at 333 FSB, and I suspect the memory, so I'd actually rather adjust my multiplier UP.

N15M0

08-29-2006, 01:57 AM

Can I know what is the max fsb you guys can set in the bios that is bootable? Thanks. :confused:

Richard Dower

08-29-2006, 10:19 AM

Here is an answer we all wanted to know:

How to set BIOS option "SATA Port 0-3 Native Mode" under "Integration Peripherals" item ?

If operating system does not support native mode, such as Windows ME/9X, please disable this option. IF you use Windows XP or 2000, you can disable or enable this option.

http://www.giga-byte.com.tw/Support/Motherboard/FAQ_Model.aspx?ClassValue=Motherboard&ProductID=2295&ProductName=GA-965P-DQ6

Warpcore

08-29-2006, 10:27 AM

N15M0 I can get mine to 490fsb so far bootable.I haven't used any software overclocking yet.I didn't test it either to see how stable it was.But you did ask for the highest fsb bootable.This is with most of the voltages set to normal.The Vcore is set to 1.34v.If I play around with it some more and up the voltages a little.Then I (might) get over 500 fsb.
:sonic:

Richard Dower

08-29-2006, 10:36 AM

490 huh...you must call over to my place to see what the hell i'm doing wrong.

Warpcore

08-29-2006, 10:51 AM

490 huh...you must call over to my place to see what the hell i'm doing wrong.
:lol:
Ok well let me read up on some of your threads here and I'll (pm) you later.I have to get ready for work right now.
:toast:

BigSteve

08-30-2006, 03:27 AM

I believe the second orange PCIe slot will hold an x16 board but only run it at x4. Do you think I could jack in a XFX GeForce 7300GT PCI Express x16 card and then run 2 extra monitors off the 2 DVI plugs. I mean while physically pluggable, would the second graphics card work when only getting x4. My main graphics card is already in the x16 slot and its also nVidia based. Ideally I could have a big-ass 2D desktop? (I've relegated all my gaming to my xbox). Whaddaya think?

GAM

08-30-2006, 02:04 PM

Given that you would install two identical cards in an SLI arrangement (so I believe) I don't it matters that your second card is 16x.

I have no idea whether the OS/hardware would recognise this card though if it is not SLI.

Give it a go Steve and let us all know ;)

BigSteve

08-30-2006, 11:15 PM

I put in a question to XFX.

Incidentally, here is a review of the DQ6.
Its a lame review, but its got comprehensive photos of the board and the BIOS.

http://www.ocworkbench.com/2006/gigabyte/GA-965P-DQ6/g1.htm

Richard Dower

08-31-2006, 01:28 AM

Does anyone have a PCB revision 1.01?, or an ITE chip more recent then 0622, or a JMicron chip more recent then 0617?

happyhero

08-31-2006, 05:00 AM

IluvIntel

08-31-2006, 05:50 AM

Has anyone tried this board with DDR2 capable of 3-1-1-1-1 @ 400mhz ?
I did, with Corsair 8000UL's and experimented with also 3-2-2-2-2 in dual SuperPi 32Mb runs.
I did notice some difference in the final scores.

Just wondering if anybody noticed this option in bios for these DDR2 timings. :)

GAM

09-02-2006, 06:45 PM

Hadn't noticed and probably wouldn't have tried it. If/when I get my board back, I can give it a go.

GAM

09-02-2006, 06:54 PM

DQ6 owners, note:

DQ6 (with Crazy Cool) and Big Typhoon mounting guide -
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=114193

Includes links offsite to my guides for DQ6/TTBT mounting with Crazy Cool in-place and my prototype Fan Duct Mod for directing external ambient air to HSF and exhaust through DQ6 radiator fins and northbridge heatsink.

(if you people have been seeing my posts and links to this everywhere, I apologise but I wanted to ensure those might be interested are aware of its existence. In this case, this thread was started as a DQ6 FAQ, so it makes sense to have a link here.)

GAM.

Eldonko

09-05-2006, 11:08 PM

Hey guys, I just started playing w/ a DQ6 today and have question. Is there a way to force 1333 strap somehow to gain a little fsb?

BrownGhost

09-09-2006, 06:32 AM

I simply cant get past thise settings :(
My water cooled system running at 2.988 Mhz only :(

I think my RAM is no good.
I cant get better cpu mhz as then the ram cant follow... :(

Take a look.

My Setting Bios
CPU Rate 9x
CPU Host ENABLED
CPU HOST FREQ 333
PCI-E 100
CIA2 DISABLED
DRAM TIMING Manuel
CAS 5
RAS TO CAS 5
RAS PRE 5
TRAS 15
ACT ACT DEL Auto
RANK WRITE 10
WRITE TO PREC 10
REFRESH TO ACT 0
READ to PRE 10
MEMORY PERF Normal
DIMM OVERV Normal
PCI-E OVERV Normal
GMCh OVERV Normal
FSB OVERV Normal
CPU OVERV 1,40000

Super PI: 17,531 V 1.4
17,609 V 1.5
MHZ CPU 2,988
MHZ RAM 667

Do some of you have a better setup for my hardwear config?
And what RAM should i Buy, as the ram i have is just not letting me OC the system any more then this...

On a final note, i cant find the Ram Divider in the bios.
dont DQ6 have this option at all?

GAM

09-09-2006, 09:36 AM

Try increasing your vDimm voltage +0.1v (maybe +0.2v) as your ram is rated for 1.9v.

Not sure about these:
RAS TO CAS 5
RAS PRE 5
TRAS 15
ACT ACT DEL Auto
RANK WRITE 10
WRITE TO PREC 10
REFRESH TO ACT 0
READ to PRE 10

I didn't change these from Auto.

Not sure about the divider. I recall there wasn't any in BIOS up to F3 but I have seen people post dividers since. Not sure whether they included DQ6's. May have been only DS3 etc.

bsodmike

09-09-2006, 09:46 AM

Hiya,

I'm on the F4 BIOS atm, 9*390 = 3.510MHz. My RAM is rated 667MHz but is doing 780MHz

http://www.bsodmike.com/gallery2/d/2300-2/Core2Duo_super_pi_mod-dual_3510MHz.jpg

http://www.bsodmike.com/gallery2/d/2308-2/Core2Duo_super_pi_mod-single_3510MHz.jpg

If I can figure out how to get the fsb/mem divider working, I'm going to try for 400MHz...

Vcore: 1.425
VDimm: 2.20v (+0.30v)
(g)MCH: +0.2v
FSB: +0.2v

soulrider4ever

09-11-2006, 09:59 AM

On the f4 bios, I was holding a max of 9x392. If I tried 393, it booted, but showed as 392.

The new f5d bios came out, and I was running at 9x400 mhz for a few hours..I tried to tweak some more out of it, and got 405, went a little further to 410, wouldn't boot, so I cleared the CMOS, and now with everything exactly the same, I can't get 400 any more :( I'm stuck back to 392... Any ideas of what's going on?

Edit: Well I reflashed to F4, then back to F5d and that seemed to do the trick :)

GAM

09-11-2006, 01:08 PM

Hiya,
...
If I can figure out how to get the fsb/mem divider working, I'm going to try for 400MHz...
...
Here you go

2.0 = 1:1
2.5 = 4:5
2.66 = 3:4
3.0 = 2:3
3.3 = 3:5
4.0 = 1:2

N15M0

09-13-2006, 02:41 AM

Hi can anyone help me? I have a week 24 6600 paired with a DQ6 with vcore on 1.38 in bios, I cm running at 310 x 9 stable for 1+ hours then priming will give errors. vmch is at +0.1 vfsb also +0.1. Anyone.

diablos

09-13-2006, 02:46 AM

hi guys,
I have a problem, the system is stable with ortos at 440*8 but if shut down it at the next boot doesn't work and i must do a clear cmos, what can i do?
thanks
PS: sorry for my bad english

jugeen

09-13-2006, 04:15 AM

hi guys,
I have a problem, the system is stable with ortos at 440*8 but if shut down it at the next boot doesn't work and i must do a clear cmos, what can i do?
thanks
PS: sorry for my bad english

give it more vMCH and vFSB. +0,3V

my english is bad too :D

N15M0

09-13-2006, 06:42 AM

GAM

09-13-2006, 01:38 PM

Anyone? Help me please.
More details. RAM?

Try increasing your vCore.

Also, search for 'DQ6 6600' or similar and see what other people with the same setup are doing.

N15M0

09-14-2006, 12:59 AM

More details. RAM?

Try increasing your vCore.

Also, search for 'DQ6 6600' or similar and see what other people with the same setup are doing.

Ram are Team Xtreme DDR 1000 OPB edition. I don't want my vcore so high so other then vcore are there any other ways? Thanks.

GAM

09-14-2006, 06:28 AM

Ram are Team Xtreme DDR 1000 OPB edition. I don't want my vcore so high so other then vcore are there any other ways? Thanks.
Please provide details of your settings, hardware etc. I may not be the one to help you, but without details of your setup and config. it is hard to know what to suggest.

N15M0

09-15-2006, 10:14 PM

Can anyone help me? I am desprate now I cannot seem to get my setup (week 24 6600 with DQ6) to reach 3gig. Even with 1.43 vcore in bios, I cannot seem to be prime stable. It will give errors within seconds. Is it the chip at fault or the mobo? Any helps? Thanks. :(

N15M0

09-15-2006, 10:21 PM

Please provide details of your settings, hardware etc. I may not be the one to help you, but without details of your setup and config. it is hard to know what to suggest.

My hardware are 6600 (week 24), Gigabyte DQ 6, Powercolor x1900xt, Creative x-fi xtreme music, team xtreme opb edition ram.

Ram are running at 5, 5, 5, 15 at 2.4 at 1:1 ratio.

GAM

09-15-2006, 11:52 PM

My hardware are 6600 (week 24), Gigabyte DQ 6, Powercolor x1900xt, Creative x-fi xtreme music, team xtreme opb edition ram.

Ram are running at 5, 5, 5, 15 at 2.4 at 1:1 ratio.

Not sure about the spec for your ram, but you could try vDimm: +0.2 (2.0v)
PCI Freq: 100 (or try increments to 103)
Timing: leave 55515 or raise for testing
vCore: as you have or even try 'Normal' to see if the board can resolve it. As a test, your could also try up to 1.45v, but watch your temps
vMCH should be okay at that speed, otherwise try +0.1v - +0.2v

Also, you might try lowering your CPU Multiplier to make sure you it is not your ram that is the problem.

Last I saw f4d was a good bios for the DQ6, but not sure if best for top overclock though (You didn't specify what BIOS you're running).

I don't have an e6600 nor for the moment a DQ6. Don't know details of the ram either, so I have no first hand experience with your setup other than the DQ6.

Read/search through this thread too: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=109719&highlight=dq6+6600 (amongst others) - good info on DQ6, DS3, etc and 6600:

** 6600 owners, please help this guy out **

Good luck.

N15M0

09-16-2006, 08:50 AM

Thanks pal. I am running F5D bios.

GAM

09-16-2006, 02:08 PM

Thanks pal. I am running F5D bios.
Have you had any luck/improvements?

eXceededgoku

09-16-2006, 03:17 PM

F5D is definitely the best bios out atm (for the DQ6) but it is still in need of improvement...

Richard Dower

09-16-2006, 04:16 PM

I agree with last poster, the X-Fi issue persists...Windows keeps "losing" the card, a yellow exclamation mark in device manager. If i shut down power and start back it finds it again....the PCI bus or frequency must be out of spec.

Rectal Prolapse

09-17-2006, 08:56 PM

Richard, I wonder if the X-Fi issue has anything to do with Microsoft's HD UUA audio driver?

Remember my issues with the onboard Realtek ALC888DD audio on the DQ6? Every 5 or so reboots I don't get DTS or DDLive audio out - the signal doesn't get passed to my receiver. If I disabled DTS/DDLive, I get 2 channel audio, but it gets all crackly and sounds awful.

My solution was to download the microsoft devcon.exe utility and run this batch file:

c:\devcon disable hd*
c:\devcon disable *dev_284b*
c:\devcon enable *dev_284b*
c:\devcon enable hd*

I placed devcon.exe into my C:\ directory.

The first line disables and enables the Microsoft hd audio driver, respectively. I used the "*" wildcard because the driver name begins with the letter 'h' and 'd', and I don't have any other drivers that start with that name.

The 2nd and 3rd lines disable and enable the Realtek audio drivers. This will need to be tailored to what Creative uses as the ID for their cards.

This fixes the issue for me - it forces a reinitialization of the drivers.

RDTS

09-18-2006, 09:24 AM

F5D is definitely the best bios out atm (for the DQ6) but it is still in need of improvement...

Where did you find the bios? A link would be helpful to all here.
I was running a DS3 board with a E6400 at 3400 with no hassles at all. I went and picked up the DQ6 Board and a E6600 chip. Then I found out that combo is like a red headed step child. So far 3060Mhz 9x340 is all that will handle orthos. With Corsair Water my temps are 58cpu/51 sys with a fan on the NB (I pulled the NB cover off and epoxied a 50mm fan on it). Have 2 120mm fans front and back. Same sys as my sig except for board/cpu change. Should I keep my DS3/E6400 rig and use he extra cash towards a better video card? Any help is appreciated!

Whats the Clock Gen PLL model for the DQ6?

eXceededgoku

09-18-2006, 09:41 AM

sorry completely forgot!
http://www.jzelectronic.de/jz2/index.php
(labelled "Neue BIOSe von Gigabyte")

Richard Dower

09-18-2006, 10:35 AM

The UAA driver is only for HD audio and the Realtek codec, you don't load UAA with the Creative driver.

Rectal Prolapse

09-18-2006, 12:08 PM

That's too bad -I guess I should have known that Creative doesn't adhere to the new HD audio standards! :)

RDTS

09-18-2006, 01:41 PM

sorry completely forgot!
http://www.jzelectronic.de/jz2/index.php
(labelled "Neue BIOSe von Gigabyte")

Thanks for the link to the F5b Bios!!!! I couldn't find it anywhere and I don't know German. I used your spec for 3420 Mhz with the Vcore setting and Presto I'm doing Ortho with no immediate errors. My mem is at 380Mhz 1:1 5-5-5-15 in Speed Fan. My temps are kinda high on load its 70 cpu/48 Sys with the set up I mentioned in the post previous. Water cooling isn't as spectacular as its cracked up to be I think. Again thanks!!!! I may just keep this DQ6/E6600 Combo.

GAM

09-18-2006, 01:46 PM

Thanks for the link to the F5b Bios!!!! I couldn't find it anywhere and I don't know German...
Click on the 'Neue BIOSe von Gigabyte' news item link and then go to the bottom of the page. Click on the combo box and select the BIOS you want.

GAM

09-18-2006, 01:50 PM

...My temps are kinda high on load its 70 cpu/48 Sys with the set up I mentioned in the post previous. Water cooling isn't as spectacular as its cracked up to be I think...
I'd try reseating your block if I were you. Temp does seem too high for water.

RDTS

09-18-2006, 01:52 PM

Click on the 'Neue BIOSe von Gigabyte' news item link and then go to the bottom of the page. Click on the combo box and select the BIOS you want.

I figured it out but your info will speed up the process for others.
Thanks

RDTS

09-18-2006, 04:33 PM

Exeededgoku: My updated system!
Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 3.42Ghz (380Mhzx9) 1.57V (set in bios, 1.51v real) | 2GB GeIL PC6400 4-4-4-12 @ 950Mhz 5-5-5-15 | Gigabyte DQ6 | Sapphire 512MB X1900XTX @ 689/774 | Enermax Liberty 620W | Antec P180 SPCR edition | Dell 2005FPW
3dmark05 - 13140 | 3dmark06 - 6698 | SuperPi 1M - 15s

I duplicated your setting and its running great! My temps are pretty high (70c) what are your teps cpu/sys and what are you using to cool? Didn't see it on your sig.

BigSteve

09-18-2006, 08:23 PM

Are you dual-prime stable?

RDTS

09-18-2006, 08:40 PM

Are you dual-prime stable?

Orthos is fine and I use Prime95? I just downloaded Ortos2004 and running it now. Looks just like the other one?

eXceededgoku

09-19-2006, 07:24 AM

RDTS

09-19-2006, 08:47 AM

That is quite high :S, I have an Arctic cooling freezer 7 pro and my max temp is just below 60c (on core temp)/about 50c (on speedfan) and system temp is roughly 40c.

Redid Artic Siver and temps we're still in the 74cpu/51sys range!

I'm in Arizona and the ambient in the office is 79F. I've never been able to get temps down in either board or chip. I tried the TT Big Water SE (junk) and the Corsair Nautilus 500. Corsair claims the Nautilus will handle up to 500 watts of heat, does't seem to be happening here. I even tried the better TT BW cpu block on the nautilus which helped a little. The Corsair is nice because its external so all you have to leak in the case is the fittings on the CPU. Plus I extended the hoses and sat the unit on the top of the hutch on the desk, that way the heat isnt all coming up from under the desk. I also tried the TT big typhon, it was almost as effective as the water but threw ALL the heat under the desk. I have looked at better systems but if your going into the $300+ water I feel its more economicall to put it to a faster chip. Do you think lapping the cpu will drop enough degrees to help?

eXceededgoku

09-19-2006, 09:30 AM

Hmm, what temperature monitoring tool are you using? And is your temperature F or oC?

RDTS

09-19-2006, 11:10 AM

Hmm, what temperature monitoring tool are you using? And is your temperature F or oC?

Im using Speed Fan and Intel Thermal Analysis Tool, I also have Core Temp. Speed Fan reads the same as Gygabites Hardware monitor.Running Orthos single or dual gets me 70c-75c on CPU and 51c-57c on Sys using Speed Fan. Intels TAT is usually a couple degrees cooler. Core temp is scary as its usually 10c higher (80c's) but today its about the same as the other readings? . Everything is measured in celsius other than my perception of room temp which is usually 79F whatever that is in Celsius.
Damn!! Its a little warmer in the office, maybe 80F. Now running Orthos I'm hitting 78c-80c!! This is after re-Artic Sivering the water block.

Update:
My Nautilus 500 WC had been up 51" from the cpu water block to the bottom of the unit. I know from working with pumps and wells that pumps usually decrease flow as head increases. The Nautilus has a excelent pump but maybe the 51" height decreased flow enough to affect cooling. I lowered it to the same level as the cpu water block but to the side of the desk 36" from the computer to keep the heat out from under the desk. Now in Speed Fan I'm 67c cpu and 48c system.TAT is reading 65c/63c for both cpu's and Core Temp is 67c/68c. Not that great but better than the 74c I was seeing. Don't know why Core Temp is reading close to Speed Fan and Gygabites hardware monitor but its nice to see everything reading about the same. I wonder if where or what sensors these programs are getting their data from and does it change as Core Temp is typically 8-10 higher.

eXceededgoku

09-20-2006, 12:43 AM

below 70oC is good :)

soulrider4ever

09-20-2006, 10:47 AM

What's the recommended setting regarding enabling/disabling

Eist
cpu halt
thermal monitor
memory error thing in bios?

Right now, I just have eist disabled.

RDTS

09-20-2006, 11:41 AM

What's the recommended setting regarding enabling/disabling

Eist
cpu halt
thermal monitor
memory error thing in bios?

Right now, I just have eist disabled.

Did that plus changed Vcore and did what Exceededgoku had on his sig after updating to F5d bios, no glitches and passes whatever you throw at it. Just runs kind a warm.

Caderom

09-20-2006, 12:11 PM

GAM

09-22-2006, 02:37 AM

I want to create RAID5 and RAID0, both from 3 HDDs on ICH8R and optical drive put in Gigabyte SATAII controller. Could be there any problem with creating RAID or using optical drive on Gigabyte controller?
Don't know about RAID, not using it, but optical drives on GB SATA2 controller is fine, in fact, necessary for IDE devices.

Rectal Prolapse

09-23-2006, 11:34 PM

Has anyone figured out how to read the chipset temperature?

When I use Speedfan to read the Temp3 sensor, it reports -2C. When I set it to read from the diode instead of as a thermistor, it gives me a reading at around 100C! It fluctuates between 98-100C. I hope this isn't a real reading! That is freaking hot!

I'm also having trouble getting Speedfan to report fan RPMs - they are way off. Easytunes and the BIOS seem to report accurate speeds, but I haven't figured out the proper fan multipliers and dividers - I find a set that seems to work, but when the fan speeds up or slows down, it goes way out again.

BTW, if you're having trouble with the system fan always at 100% with the official F5 BIOS, try installing Speedfan and changing the PWM2 fan mode (Go into the Advanced tab and select the IT8712F chip) from ON/OFF to SmartGuardian and see if that fixes it. Normally PWM2 is in SmartGuardian mode by default, but I'm guessing that the official F5 BIOS mistakenly changes it to ON/OFF.

BigSteve

09-26-2006, 08:00 PM

I can't get S.M.A.R.T. to work, even with the F5 BIOS.

Anyone got S.M.A.R.T. working? It works on my DS3 server, but not my DQ6 workstation.

http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ with cygwin install, smartctl is under util. Then just turn on SMART in your BIOS and then use smartctl from within cygwin. Claim is that 70% of hard disk failures give some early symptoms, which S.M.A.R.T. detects.

Can also use http://www.rsdsoft.com/hdd-thermometer/ for just hard disk temperatures.

man smartd.conf
man smartctl
man smartd
/usr/sbin/smartctl -s on -o on -S on /dev/hda /usr/sbin/smartctl -a /dev/hda
/usr/sbin/smartctl -a /dev/hda

GAM

09-27-2006, 04:38 AM

Has anyone figured out how to read the chipset temperature?

When I use Speedfan to read the Temp3 sensor, it reports -2C. When I set it to read from the diode instead of as a thermistor, it gives me a reading at around 100C! It fluctuates between 98-100C. I hope this isn't a real reading! That is freaking hot!

I'm also having trouble getting Speedfan to report fan RPMs - they are way off. Easytunes and the BIOS seem to report accurate speeds, but I haven't figured out the proper fan multipliers and dividers - I find a set that seems to work, but when the fan speeds up or slows down, it goes way out again.
...
I gave up on SpeedFan a while ago as it was totally inaccurate bar a temp or two.

My suggestion, get Everest. Ever since MBM seemed to stop development I switched as this program is regularly updated and shows heaps of details. OSD and tray icons 'to boot'. Excellent program. Try their trial out before you have to buy. Check out their beta version here: http://www.lavalys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1778

GAM

09-27-2006, 04:40 AM

BigSteve

09-28-2006, 08:04 AM

mach82

09-30-2006, 12:19 PM

Anyone with a DQ6 - can you check vcore and vdimm with a DMM? What's real vcore idle/load when you set it in BIOS as 1.5V (or alike)? What's vdimm idle/load when you set +0.5V in bios? Please use the latest bios F5. TIA.

GAM

09-30-2006, 01:18 PM

What version of Everest are you running? Mine (Ultimate Edition 2006 3.00.626) said "you've got a Broadwater chipset and we don't fully support that yet."

Also, it said something about GPU Diode temperature 71 degrees CELSIUS. Is that cool?
Currently running build 3.01.715 Beta. Board/CPU fully supported (build 652 and up, I think).

GPU temps are typically much higher and meant to be able to run hotter too-not sure what their max. is though. This sensor is also a diode like the CPU predessessors to the Core 2 Duo and is therefore cooler than the digital thermal sensor that we see on C2D 'cores'.

BigSteve

10-02-2006, 02:26 AM

OK Everest is great, and Everest seems to be able to use SMART to detect my drive temperature, so cygwin's smartctl must be to blame. Just wanted to note that these many nVidia graphics cards seem to differ a lot in their heat sinks. I suspect the ASUS EN7300GT runs a bit hotter than most. This becomes an issue since many of these cards are very OC-able. Anyone got a GPU cooler they like?

soulrider4ever

10-02-2006, 06:46 AM

anyone notice if the graphics and memory settings set to "Turbo" makes any actual difference in performance?

billy-boy

01-11-2007, 05:59 AM

Gigabyte GA 965P-DQ6 hangs trying to load Windows if SATA drives plugged into either yellow or purple inputs.

I have Windows XP Pro installed on a Seagate 300 GB IDE drive. This is my root (C) drive plugged into the Primary IDE channel with my DVD drive as a slave. I have two additional Seagate SATA drives, a 300 and 750 GB. I have successfully installed the Intel Matrix drivers and Device Manager reports no problems with them or anything else.

If I connect nothing to either the yellow or purple SATA inputs the system will boot Windows and run normally. If I connect either the 300 or 750 SATA driver regardless to the yellow or purple input, things are still OK. However once I plug both the 300 and 750 in, again regardless which ports... the system goes through nornal boot until just before it should enter Windows then it stops and reports it can't load OS.

If I plug in yet another SATA drive in a external case this works correctly alone. It seems no matter what I do I can't get more than one SATA drive to run in AHCI mode.

Since I want to keep my boot IDE drive (C) and NOT tranfer Windows to either of the SATA drivers how should BIOS be set?

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

billy-boy

01-11-2007, 12:52 PM

UPDATE

I found a way that seems to work but it doesn't make much sense. For some odd reason I wish somebody could explain if I start over, take off all SATA drives,then reboot I can get back into Windows. Next I shut-down add one drive to any of the yellow SATA ports, again boot, ok, this point I got one SATA drive working. I need to shut down again, then add the second drive to either of the PURPLE ports, reboot and Success.

If I try to add both at once, same stupid hang and can't load OS message.

Talk about silly or am I missing something? Now I'm afraid to try adding a third drive in an external case out of fear the system will lock up again. I know I'm working in ACHI mode becasue at boot the BIOS says so and I can see a huge increase in both the drives performance.

GAM

01-12-2007, 12:28 PM

I am guessing that each time you connect a SATA drive to the purple (Gigabyte/JMicron) controller, the BIOS is setting this device as the first bootup drive.

Personally I run 4 SATA drives, in AHCI mode, all off the yellow Intel Matrix controller (better than the JMicron).

Plug all your drives in any way you want, but upon first boot after connecting the drives go into your BIOS and review the settings, particularly the boot order. I'll bet that it has reset itself to one of your SATA drives.

billy-boy

02-15-2007, 12:11 PM

Well, I updated to Microsoft's Vista business version a few days ago and all kinds of problems with my SATA drives on my GA-965P-DQ6.

1. has anybody had any better luck? My configuration is a 250 GB Seagate on the IDE channel with a DVD burner as slave, 2 SATA drives on the SATA
controllers, one a 300 GB, the other a 750 GB.

I get the usual no OS found error unless I shift back to IDE mode. The SATA drives work this way, now all attempts to try the suggestons posted here that worked in XP fail in Vista. I did just install the latest Intel controller drivers from the Gigabyte site.

2. Even worse, another SATA in a external encloser than worked fine as a SATA drive under XP can't even be seen by Vista unless I switch it to USB 2.0 mode as the interface.
mode.

3. For anybody that has this board and Vista can you check how Device Manager shows the IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers... Mine now shows 3 channel 0 lines
and another 3 channel 1 lines plus lines for the ICH8 and ICH4 2 port serial controllers.

It won't let me disable any of those lines. What a mess! I have a revision 1.0 board, lucky me.