Conroe FAQ'S!!! Read this before posting

[Charloz24]

As Conroe and Allendale starts to get retail, we see tons and tons of new posts always referring to the same questions and keep spamming the Intel forum. Well even if we all started as noob, is it some kind important to READ a little before posting. It's kinda really annoying to regular members here seeing good posts being pushed back too much fast. So this thread is just a little help to guide you to threads (or section) that will answer to 90% of questions of all new member here.

Q: OMG! My Conroe setup is complete and I want to share my xxxx mhz overclock!

A: Do not make a new post please, just post here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=106321

Q: Help! I have x problem with my Gigabyte DS3!!!

A: Go read this DS3 FAQ before posting:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=110460

Q: Help! I have x problem with my ASUS P5W DH Deluxe!!!!

A: Go read theses 2 sticky before posting:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=110193
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=106563

Q: Help! I have x problem with my BadAxe!

A: Go read this sicky first:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=99298

Q: Help me choose good memory for my Conroe!!!

A: Please have a read in general hardware section:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=66
(Thanks sierra_bound)

Q: WTF!!! My Conroe run @ 6*266 instead of X*266!!!

A: It's because of EIST (energy saving option, like Cool'N'Quiet in AMD) read this:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111229
(Thanks kenofstephen)

Q: Wich the best aircooling/watercooling setup for conroe? Will it fit on my X motherboard?

A: Please visit aircooling/liquidcooling question and post here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=69 (air cooling)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=70 (water cooling)
(Thanks sierra_bound)

Q: OMG my Conroe is burning up!

A: Most temp monitoring software is WAY off, especially Coretemp, and the Intel Badaxe is notorious for reporting ridiculously high temps. But you might want to check contact to be safe, because many Conroes have concave IHSs and need to be lapped.
(Thanks Absolute 0)

If your question is anything else, do not make new post yet, please try the SEARCH option before.

**Edit** Well rather or not this reference should be a sticky, as many new member didn't read sticky anyway, it should be very nice to link this thread to any "annoying thread" here. So in that way we don't totally ignore new members and MAYBE this will let them understand to do their homework before posting anything.

Well that's all for now. Feel free to enter other annoying questions with link to answer :p:

BTW sorry for my bad english! :)

[AndrewZorn]

i just bought the following:

- trash
- junk
- overpriced

is it any good?

[m0da]

i just bought the following:

- trash
- junk
- overpriced

is it any good?

where? everywhere says they're sold out.
dam my spam

anyway, very nice organizational thread. good idea!

[kenofstephen]

please also add this thread:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111229

"why my conroe runs @ x6 multi. sometimes?!" - it's about EIST, come on, no more noob question PLEASE.

[Charloz24]

where? everywhere says they're sold out.
dam my spam

anyway, very nice organizational thread. good idea!

Thanks! :toast:

I really wish this thread would help to reduce annoying post. It's kinda strange to have like 3-4 pages of new posts each days. We kinda have more chance to miss posts that give great and valuable info.

[rick_fx]

Maybe this thread should be a "sticky" ;)

[Charloz24]

please also add this thread:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111229

"why my conroe runs @ x6 multi. sometimes?!" - it's about EIST, come on, no more noob question PLEASE.

Done! Thanks! :toast:

[Cooper]

Maybe this thread should be a "sticky" ;)

Might be a good idea.
But it seems people doesn`t look there very often :rolleyes:

[BigRigDriver]

where? everywhere says they're sold out.
dam my spam

anyway, very nice organizational thread. good idea!

Funny, lets sticky this thread:clap:

[G H Z]

There was very good control over this sort of thing during the Opteron craze in the AMD section, it seems to be missing here ;)

[Haltech]

:clap: Most Excellent! :clap:


I hope this keeps the same posts from popping up constantly.

[sierra_bound]

Although I would agree that the number of worthless threads has reached epidemic proportions in the Intel section, I'm not sure making this thread a sticky would help a whole lot. Unfortunately there are people who simply want to draw attention to themselves. They will start threads even when they know their question has been asked and answered a million times already. The best thing you can do is ignore those people. That will send the strongest message.

I think tougher enforcement by the mods would also be good. I would like to see more merging of redundant threads, as well as moving threads about coolers and RAM to the appropriate sections. Personally I think general questions about RAM should not go in the Xtreme Bandwidth section. That is more of a General Hardware issue, IMO. I think "Xtreme Bandwidth" should just be about that.

[Charloz24]

I think tougher enforcement by the mods would also be good. I would like to see more merging of redundant threads, as well as moving threads about coolers and RAM to the appropriate sections. Personally I think general questions about RAM should not go in the Xtreme Bandwidth section. That is more of a General Hardware issue, IMO. I think "Xtreme Bandwidth" should just be about that.

Agree with you, I updated this. Thanks!

[lawrywild]

Good idea, will complement the ds3 and my p5w threads nicely

[Charloz24]

Added something (written in red). Please read and comment about this :)

[[XC]melymel]

The bit you just wrote in read was what i was about to post and what I will do :up: Great idea this thread and it should help the problem if iplemented by a large amount of members, as it will eventually get through to people. Good work Charloz24 :toast:

[Charloz24]

The bit you just wrote in read was what i was about to post and what I will do :up: Great idea this thread and it should help the problem if iplemented by a large amount of members, as it will eventually get through to people. Good work Charloz24 :toast:

Thanks! :toast:

[Donnie27]

Thanks! :toast:

Great job!

[Absolute_0]

Hey, looks good, add this one

Q: OMG my Conroe is burning up!

A: Most temp monitoring software is WAY off, especially Coretemp, and the Intel Badaxe is notorious for reporting ridiculously high temps. But you might want to check contact to be safe, because many Conroes have concave IHSs and need to be lapped.

[Charloz24]

Hey, looks good, add this one

Q: OMG my Conroe is burning up!

A: Most temp monitoring software is WAY off, especially Coretemp, and the Intel Badaxe is notorious for reporting ridiculously high temps. But you might want to check contact to be safe, because many Conroes have concave IHSs and need to be lapped.

Good one indeed! Updated! :toast:

[sierra_bound]

I'm bumping this thread up because I think it's important that members, especially newer ones, read it. Some of us are getting tired of people who are looking for any excuse to start a new thread, even when the subject has been discussed a million times. Some good information is getting buried by the avalanche of threads that are either posted in the wrong section, or which have little substance. If you have a question about RAM, post it in General Hardware. If it's a question about HSF's, post it in the Air Cooling section. Thanks in advance.

[Btrice]

I agree, I realize I am just a newbie around here and my opinion means only slightly more than horses*** LOL, but I am on here every single day and when I go away for only 5-7 hours to sleep and wake up and have to sort through 2+ pages of newly posted in threads, something is wrong.

[sierra_bound]

There is nothing wrong with being new or asking questions.:) What I don't understand is why there needs to be a dozen threads on the same motherboard. There are some well-established threads on particular Conroe/Allendale boards. People with questions about a particular board should post in those threads.

I understand the instinct to start a new thread. People want their thread to stand out from all the others. But when a hundred people are doing the same thing, then it becomes a mess. I have seen threads with very good information get buried in less than 24 hours.

[afireinside]

Thanks for taking the time to put this together Charloz24 :) Might not help since most people won't bother to read it and make more threads anyway but they could find their answers here easily.

[krille]

I've just pre-ordered an E6600, but since I haven't bought anything Intel since AMD Athlon 64 arrived (my last Intel CPU was a Northwood with an IC-7). I'm surprised there aren't more threads about what motherboard to get along with it. I understood from the Intel "What To Buy" Guide 2006 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=106479) that the ones to get are the 1) ASUS P5B Deluxe, 2) Gigabyte GA-8I945P-G, 3) Foxconn 945G7MA-8KS2 in that order (ie whichever first your budget allows), but I can't really say there was a detailed explanation of as to why one should pick these SKUs over the rest.

Nor did I see anything about what's coming up (in the near-future), but I noticed Fugger's thread on some new Abit board (new IC-7 mayhap?), supposedly taking up the competition with ASUS.

But dare anyone explain what makes the ASUS the best pick, currently? And is it the best pick under all ATX circumstances? High-end gamimg, HTPC, etc?

(Do note, I asked a very similar question in the "What To Buy" thread, however I'm not sure what thread is better suited for this conversation.)

Thanks!

~ Kris

[TL1000S]

@Charloz24:
Very nice initiative..:clap:

Even in this thread people asks questions about Conroe setup.. :slapass:

Why not try to *read* the forum?
Why not try the *search* function?
Why not try to find out things *yourself*?

Yes.. it may be difficult/confusing to find out which mb is best for whatever Conroe-model.
The answer is simple:
It is a matter of trial and error... a matter of *knowledge* on specific hardware/bios'es..
It is a matter of some luck with *your* specific hardware(CPU/Mb).
Also bear in mind that the mb's (and hence also bios'es) are fairly new to the market.. The same goes for CPU's.
Do *not* expect the same results as some extreme members are posting.. with mb's that are tweaked in every possible way..

@Intel/Conroe noobs:
*Pleeeze* try to follow the advice in this thread!
Many of us are very sick and tired of threads like:
"Help!! My board won't post!"
"Fu***ng gigabyte DS3 won't do FSB999 in first ever Intel OC-try!!"
..and such alike..

[[LCN]Knowledge]

Great Thread/sticky Charloz24, it helps a lot for new users to find what they are looking for. I dont know why some(should i say many?) ppl just dont like to read, i guess they just come and post their questions without seeing the answer one line above their own thread lol.

This is really annoying... i used to find the insteresting(WR etc.) topics/thread with ease... but now i scroll down and i only see the same questions. Sh*t lazzy ppl.

PS: i guess this wont help with users that dont read (Even stickies).. there should be some kind of restrictions or penalties.

Sorry for my english :D

[Counter CS]

How do i know what stepping is my conroe ?

[Larry]

Very good charloz24 :clap:

Hopefully people will read this before posting because there has been a stupid amount of new threads posted about the same dam stuff

[nikhsub1]

Q: OMG my Conroe is burning up!

A: Most temp monitoring software is WAY off, especially Coretemp, and the Intel Badaxe is notorious for reporting ridiculously high temps. But you might want to check contact to be safe, because many Conroes have concave IHSs and need to be lapped.
(Thanks Absolute 0)
I won't argue the merrits of coretemp, but who is to say that it is way off? Use Intels Thermal Analysis Tool (http://www.anonforums.com/builds/TAT.zip). It's there software they know how to take the temps of their chips.

[EneergE]

Good to know CoreTemp is inaccurate. I just downloaded it and it says 68C for both cores on my 2.8ghz E6700! Speedfan says Temp1: 47C Temp2: 51C Temp3: 52C.
Sisoft sandra says board temp: 47C, cpu temp: 48.5C, power/aux temp: 50C.
Everest says Motherboard: 47C, Cpu Temp: 51C, but CPU Core #1: 66C and Core #2 66C, wtf?
I'm dual priming right now and coretemp scared the hell out of me at first and now everest has me a little worried. Is there anything out there that can provide good accurate measurements of the temperature? I'll probably end up buying a hardware monitoring device if not.

I'm currently on stock heatsink/fan, but I have a extreme spirit northbridge cooler, a silverstone 110cfm exhaust, and a couple no name fans on the bottom of the case blowing around 40cfm. I should have a Thermalright SI-128 HS with a silverstone fan coming in wednesday. But can anyone here help me determine what the correct temperatures should be? Does the bios lie? The bios seems to agree with sandra.

EDIT:
Intel's Thermal Analysis tool says 66C for both cores. Wouldnt my computer be unstable or at least give me some prime errors? The exhaust from the back of the case doesn't even feel warm.

[aoch88]

I feel the same thing too. The temps are always different between applications even the BIOS.

I guess one of the easiest way is to get a thermal sensor and bump it in between the HSF and CPU?

[revogamer]

omg thread revival, aoch88, the last post here before yours was more than a year ago!

[aoch88]

LOL, I didn't notice that until now. Thanks for reminding revogamer.
Anyone knows what is a reliable temp reader software?