Scythe Infinity arrived today

[WesM63]

This thing is the biggest dang cooler i've ever seen. It literally towers the BT i had! :eek:

Hopefully I can get this bad boy installed sometime today if not tomorrow, today is a busy day for me.

Now i'm just waiting on my RMA back from OCZ and 4ghz here I come :)


Anyone else own one? I'm not sure if i'm going to like the mounting on it thou.. I hate the stock intel push pin deals.

[clone38]

Get some piccy`s up when it`s fitted m8 please :)

[Vapor]

I got mine as well...LOTS smaller than I imagind, smaller than the TuniqT120, too. No good/easy way to mount 120x38 fans, and has to be mounted on the board before the fan is mounted.

I absolutely love the Intel mounting, so this mounting is pretty nice to me :)

Base is polished and flat, but kinda mosaic-y.....

[N H O]

yes pics plz, lots of em from various angles :p

[WesM63]

I'll see what I can do for pics, may have to wait till tomorrow. I lent my sister my camera.

[andyisc00l]

Hey mind posting the differences between the typhoon and the infinity?
You should lap the heatsink,too

[zakelwe]

Is this supposed to be better than the Ninja or not ? Less heatpipes but more fins and mass ..??

Regards

Andy

[davefr]

I have an Infinity. Early reviews show that it spanks everything else it's been tested with including Mine and Ninja. Based on the data it looks like it'll even beat the TT and win the crown!!

It also has a superior mounting system. (no backplates)

However if you mount it on a P5W DH you might need to make a small modification. The main extrusion might not clear those square black components above the CPU socket. It's easy to trim about 1 mm off that section with a Dremel. Just make sure you do a test fit.

The push pin mounting system is great but it's unforgiving. You must turn the pins to the remove position and pull the tabs all the way out. Then you rotate them to the install position and push them in until you hear a definate click. Once you seat the push pins turn the board over and make sure the black inner pins have gone all the way thru the outer part of the pin sockets.

Infinity keeps my E6600 at 26 degrees idle and 35 during a torture test @19 ambient. It's also very quiet.

[WesM63]

Well i just mounted it.. i hate the intel push pins. I can never get them right. I'm setting at 70c dual load at 1.5vcore. I think it needs re-mounted.

I didn't have any clearance issues, i checked it before i finished installing it.

[N H O]

someone post pics plz! :D

[SMa]

I've got a little question about this cooler.
How is it mounted on LGA775? (Gigabyte DS3)
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/4734/ds3mk6.jpg

[WesM63]

Dave,
After pulling it back off it was hitting them black things. I filed it down so it wouldn't hit and re-mounted it. Still same temps. The AS3 needs some time to cure.

NHO,
Chill out man, i'm working on getting pics.

SMa,
I would mount it the first way. The mounting brackets are on the long side so i think you could mount it either way if you wanted too.

[davefr]

I've got a little question about this cooler.
How is it mounted on LGA775? (Gigabyte DS3)
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/4734/ds3mk6.jpg


On my P5W it mounts like your second image. Long side is aligned with the top of the board. I'm pretty sure you can't even mount it like diagram #1. (at least on a P5W)

However the fan can go on any of the 4 sides. I put my fan above the DRAMs so it blows thru the Infinity and the exhaust fan sucks the heat out the back. There's also some fan overhang which helps with the NB an PWM .

I'm quite impressed with this HSF.

[WesM63]

On my P5W it mounts like your second image. Long side is aligned with the top of the board. I'm pretty sure you can't even mount it like diagram #1. (at least on a P5W)

However the fan can go on any of the 4 sides. I put my fan above the DRAMs so it blows thru the Infinity and the exhaust fan sucks the heat out the back. There's also some fan overhang which helps with the NB an PWM .

I'm quite impressed with this HSF.


Yep, I have mine mounted like the first picture.

[Ender17]

Yep, I have mine mounted like the first picture.
pics?

[SMa]

So basicly you can choose how you mount it?

Could this cooler be better then the Tuniq Tower?
3 heatpipes vs 5 and both carry a 120mm fan.

[WesM63]

I swear man, one more person ask me for pics. Can you not read, no camera at the moment but i'm working on it.

sma,
Looks that way.

[Dr.Frankenstein]

I swear man, one more person ask me for pics.

ROFL, after that last request I knew you were gonna flip soon.

[njkid32]

I swear man, one more person ask me for pics. Can you not read, no camera at the moment but i'm working on it.

sma,
Looks that way.

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/5974/lesstalkmorepics1akzy1.gif (http://imageshack.us)


























http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1183/picsstfu6vuqf4.gif (http://imageshack.us)














































J/K jeez guys give him a break! He will put pics up when he can!!!

[WesM63]

Eric,

:nono: :slap: :dammit:

:horse:


Yea.. i was a bit cranky this morning. I said i'll have pics when I get my camera back, and ppl keep asking. :fact:

[njkid32]

Hehe, no worries I think they can wait till you can put some pics up:) I am kinda curious myself though. All I have every used was a BT and have been thinking of switching to something else. So let me know how it goes...

[Zardokk]

Pics?







(Just kidding...)

[Shpoon]

Pics?







(Just kidding...)

Beating the dead horse, it's not even remotely funny now..

[exhausted mule]

man. this thing looks sweet.

can't wait to see real life pics of it.

i'm sure though.. that the pictures provided by scythe must be alltered somehow... in comparison to a picture done by a member.

since.... most likelly... the picture provided by scythe would most certainly be airbrush or PS in order to appeal to buyers.

just a thought though...

i'm sure that once we see the pictures provided by the thread starter we will be able to make a definate and concise decision as to whether or not they are genuine in nature.


amen.

[InSanCen]

i'm sure though.. that the pictures provided by scythe must be alltered somehow... in comparison to a picture done by a member.


How you take the picture has a big say in how it looks on advertising pics. Why do you think short-arse Tom cruise is usually shot from angles that won't emphasise his vertical shortcomings...

Never seen any promo for it, but I'd say it is shot from above, probably 3/4 on, with a full-ATX board below it. would reduce apparant size a lot.

[Cooper]

http://www.scythe-eu.com/events/cebit2006/Scythe-demo-system-4.jpg
http://www.theinquirer.net/images/articles/Scythe-Infinity-Computex.jpg

:D

[Shift]

How is this cooler compared to the Noctua (http://www.frozencpu.com/cpu-noc-01.html?id=yaQjsJs9)? Anyone know?

I can't seem to find any review on the Scythe...

[Timmay]

http://www.boomspeed.com/timmay556/worthless.jpg

[Vapor]

I have ~120 pics of mine in various setups, and no, you can't see them :exclaim:

(why does everyone want to see pics anyway?)

still haven't run it yet, no need with phase, just bought it as a backup cooler :)

[horrorwood]

Anyone know where i can get one in the UK?

[WesM63]

Since ya'll are so pushy i resorted to using my Camcorder. The pictures suck, so this is what you get for not waiting till i get my dRebel back.

http://www.needmoreboost.com/xs/scythe1.jpg

http://www.needmoreboost.com/xs/scythe2.jpg

http://www.needmoreboost.com/xs/scythe3.jpg

[N H O]

sexy!

[Timmay]

Upside down pics? :p

[firestarter71]

HUGE would be an understatement! What are the temps like under load?

[t1no]

Nice case Wes, it's a full tower right?

[WesM63]

Bah, usually PS fixes em. Oh well.. sideways lol.

Firestarter,
Well using asus pc probe it shows 70c full load at 1.5vcore. How accurate that is IDK. Room temp is around 25c. It might still be hitting on those black things but it didn't appear to be.

[exhausted mule]

is that a fan you have on the top or is that just through the window?


and oh yeah,

thanks for the pics :)

[zakelwe]

Bah, usually PS fixes em. Oh well.. sideways lol.

Firestarter,
Well using asus pc probe it shows 70c full load at 1.5vcore. How accurate that is IDK. Room temp is around 25c. It might still be hitting on those black things but it didn't appear to be.

If the heatsink was making good contacts then you would expect the heatsink to be warm if the cpu was really at 70C .., if you touch the bottom of the heatsink which surrounds the bottom of the heatpipes is it very warm ? If it is cool then I suspect your contact is not very good.

Regards

Andy

[norse]

That is giant, those temps don't look that great with it tho.

[GOATSLAYER]

Hmm, i think you should remount it.

[WesM63]

Yea, i'm going to have to get my dremel back and fix the HS so it doesn't hit. There is no way it should be 70c, like zakelwe said the HS should be warm..its cold to the touch.

[Cooper]

remount

[Rezag1000]

I am in the market for a new CPU cooler.

I am looking at the ninja+, Big Tyhoon, and the infinity....

My question for you is, is the infinity rediculosly heavy? Do you fear that it will fall or something? Also, how was installation.

Of the three I listed, which do you guys recomend...I am looking for silence, performace, and ease of installation....

and....please get some more performance numbers UP ASAP!!!1

also, how is the fan that comes with the infinity?

[WesM63]

Heavy, No. Fairly light.

Installation was easy however i have incountered some difficulties. (base of infinity hitting the mosfets?, the black thanks around the socket on a P5W DH)


The fan that it comes with is nice, silent also. Only spins at 1200rpm's.

[Rezag1000]

How about size? Do you think the size would prohibit installation in some instances? Or is is almost the same size as the ninja or big typhoon?

[drtitanium0]

How about size? Do you think the size would prohibit installation in some instances? Or is is almost the same size as the ninja or big typhoon?
Yes I have the same questions do you think it would fit in my case and fit on my motherboard?

[Rezag1000]

Yes I have the same questions do you think it would fit in my case and fit on my motherboard?

yeah, we both have similar setups. I have an antec SLK something something case.

Anyways, yeah, we want some performaance numbers!! lol
and what is you definition of light? According to the specs, it weighs in at 960grams!!

[davefr]

Yea, i'm going to have to get my dremel back and fix the HS so it doesn't hit. There is no way it should be 70c, like zakelwe said the HS should be warm..its cold to the touch.


If you're at 70 something is seriously wrong. Mine never exceeds 35-37 under a torture test. (E6600 OC to 366FSB, 1.475 Vcore, and 19 ambient, P5W DH). Idle averages 25-28 degrees.

Check the mount. All 4 push pins need to be seated and the tab has to be oriented in the right direction for the pins to lock. Turn the board over and make sure the black pins are flush with the retainers.

It's likely the extrusion bottomed out on the black components. I'd use a Dremel and give it more clearance.

P.S.
I've found that Infinity is heavy but it's all in the base. The mount should secure it just fine since it's not top heavy.

[Rezag1000]

So would you venture to say that the infinity would easily fit a DFI ultra-D? Also, should I bother replacing the fan that comes with it?

[drtitanium0]

So would you venture to say that the infinity would easily fit a DFI ultra-D? Also, should I bother replacing the fan that comes with it?
Once again i have the same questions. This guy is like my clone!

[WesM63]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say yes, it should fit the Ultra-D fine. The infinity uses the stock mounting bracket, so it shouldn't hit anything.

I suppose replacing the fan is up to you, I have plenty of airflow in my case so i'm not to worried about it. I have not replaced the fan, nor do i know anyone that has. The gain may be minimal at best, like replacing the fan on the TT BT.


I don't know how it will fit in your case, its hard to tell by the pictures i have atm but the HS comes close, i'd say within an inch or 1 1/2inch of hitting the side panel. Thats how massive this cooler is.

I'm busting out the dremel tonight and getting this sucker fixed.

[fhpchris]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say yes, it should fit the Ultra-D fine. The infinity uses the stock mounting bracket, so it shouldn't hit anything.

I suppose replacing the fan is up to you, I have plenty of airflow in my case so i'm not to worried about it. I have not replaced the fan, nor do i know anyone that has. The gain may be minimal at best, like replacing the fan on the TT BT.


I don't know how it will fit in your case, its hard to tell by the pictures i have atm but the HS comes close, i'd say within an inch or 1 1/2inch of hitting the side panel. Thats how massive this cooler is.

I'm busting out the dremel tonight and getting this sucker fixed.

Replacing the fan on the TT BT isnt minimal.

[Rezag1000]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say yes, it should fit the Ultra-D fine. The infinity uses the stock mounting bracket, so it shouldn't hit anything.

I suppose replacing the fan is up to you, I have plenty of airflow in my case so i'm not to worried about it. I have not replaced the fan, nor do i know anyone that has. The gain may be minimal at best, like replacing the fan on the TT BT.


I don't know how it will fit in your case, its hard to tell by the pictures i have atm but the HS comes close, i'd say within an inch or 1 1/2inch of hitting the side panel. Thats how massive this cooler is.

I'm busting out the dremel tonight and getting this sucker fixed.

exactly what part of it needs fixing? Is it an issue everyone will have? And does it come with its own backplate? thanks!!


EDIT: I just checked out the online manual and it looks like the infinity uses the stock clips for installing on socket 939. In theory, that means installing the infinity should be as easy as installing the AMD stock cooler for 939.....CRAZY!!! can anyone conforim this?

[rvd]

weaksaucce

[WesM63]

Replacing the fan on the TT BT isnt minimal.

Not sure what you mean by that, i only gained 1-2c when installing a 130cfm fan on the BT.

Rez,
I cannot say if the problem I am having is something everyone will experiance. I think on a s939 mobo you should be fine as like I said, it uses the stock mounting bracket. Therefor, where I am hitting should be inside of the stock mounting brackets area. (where there is nothing to hit).

RVD,
If your going to make a comment at least make it clearer.

[fhpchris]

Not sure what you mean by that, i only gained 1-2c when installing a 130cfm fan on the BT.

Rez,
I cannot say if the problem I am having is something everyone will experiance. I think on a s939 mobo you should be fine as like I said, it uses the stock mounting bracket. Therefor, where I am hitting should be inside of the stock mounting brackets area. (where there is nothing to hit).

RVD,
If your going to make a comment at least make it clearer.

I lost nearly 5+C idle alone, and gained 200+ mhz.

[Shift]

70C, that's bad right?

Did the remount fix the problem?

[Rezag1000]

70C, that's bad right?

Did the remount fix the problem?

70C is criminal and the engineers at scythe should be arrested :D :D

[WesM63]

70C, that's bad right?

Did the remount fix the problem?


I havn't gotten home yet to fix the problem.

I'm almost positive my temps will drop dramatically once the mounting issue is resolved.

[richnewman]

I swear man, one more person ask me for pics. Can you not read, no camera at the moment but i'm working on it.

sma,
Looks that way.

So where's the pics? :stick:

:banana: :banana: :banana:

Edit: When did everybody post the second and third page? Lol damn forums :slap:

:slapass:

[WesM63]

I'll have some new pics shortly, just got my cam back.

Also, ground more off the HS and its NOT hitting now, however I still am seeing the same temps. :confused: Also ordered some AS Creamiqe as i'm out of thermal paste.

[richnewman]

I'll have some new pics shortly, just got my cam back.

Also, ground more off the HS and its NOT hitting now, however I still am seeing the same temps. :confused: Also ordered some AS Creamiqe as i'm out of thermal paste.

I guess you probably don't need another person saying 70c is high but :wasntme: Damn 70c is way too high :wasntme:

[richnewman]

So basicly you can choose how you mount it?

Could this cooler be better then the Tuniq Tower?
3 heatpipes vs 5 and both carry a 120mm fan.

The Tuniq Tower has almost twice as many fins.. I guess you have to cool the 30 fins on the Infinity as fast as you cool 60 fins on the Tuniq and it should be better (more heatpipes).

Plus you can put 120x38mm fans! :D :D

[Jinobi]

The Infinity LGA775 push-pin system was a pain in the ass to use, IMHO. But, I suppose all other LGA775 push-pin heatsinks are the same too. Without further ado, here are some pics!

http://freehost10.websamba.com/jinobi/P1000806.jpg
http://freehost10.websamba.com/jinobi/P1000808.jpg
http://freehost10.websamba.com/jinobi/P1000811.jpg

[CPLB]

Thanks for the pics Jinobi!

What are your temps like with the settings you are running?

[Jinobi]

For more temps and pics, I shall humbly refer to this:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111897

At the moment, I'm running a E6600 @ 2.4Ghz stock. I get 31C idle. Still waiting for XP to install, so I'll keep ya posted.

[fyleow]

For more temps and pics, I shall humbly refer to this:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111897

At the moment, I'm running a E6600 @ 2.4Ghz stock. I get 31C idle. Still waiting for XP to install, so I'll keep ya posted.

Is it possible to mount the Infinity the other way? With the longer section going North-South instead of the East-West direction you have it with. I only use the rear exhaust and leave the top exhaust on my P180 empty, so that would make more sense for me.

[Jinobi]

Is it possible to mount the Infinity the other way? With the longer section going North-South instead of the East-West direction you have it with. I only use the rear exhaust and leave the top exhaust on my P180 empty, so that would make more sense for me.

You can, and the pic from DarkOneX confirms it:

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1090038

[fyleow]

You can, and the pic from DarkOneX confirms it:

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1090038

Thanks. One more question, do you know the clearance of the motherboard PCB to the first fin of the Infinity? The ninja is about 50mm or 2 inches. Is the Infinity the same?

[Larsson85]

Could anyone please explain exactly what needs to be done n the P5W DH delux to make it fit? I got scared when I heard dremel, but a little bit calmer when you said minimal mod. Pics on where we need to mod maby?

How does the temperature compares to Tuniq Tower, if you own both, lets compare :toast:

[xlink]

humm... will likely want to be mounting that thing as to align with with the exhause fan... PSU can also circulate air towards the general area...


now all i need to know is if it will work with the DFI's lanparty board based on RD600
http://images.tweaktown.com/imagebank/atird600tw06_01.jpg
http://images.tweaktown.com/imagebank/atird600tw06_02.jpg


looks as if it should be able to clear the ram, though I'm worried about the HSF over the chipset HS(if it clears the ram thoguh it shoudl be abel to clear that smll HS but...), it looks liek the cooler they use voerlaps it and clears but still...

[pentium777]

Could anyone please explain exactly what needs to be done n the P5W DH delux to make it fit? I got scared when I heard dremel, but a little bit calmer when you said minimal mod. Pics on where we need to mod maby?

How does the temperature compares to Tuniq Tower, if you own both, lets compare :toast:

Ditto, all parts arrived today, P5W DH, E6600, 2GB Corsair 8500C5, Scythe Infinity

Scared of the dremel seems the way I want to mount it (fan opposite rear exhaust of case) it is going to touch some capacitors :-/

That's just eye ball view until chip is installed later at home... whoops 5pm TIME TO GO build this bad boy. 2X7900 GTX cards going in and RAID 0 Raptors looking for some >11000 3dmarks06 and looking forward to NO MORE Affinity setting! Hello Intel Core 2 Duo welcome to my home.

[Yay for Cheese]

Since I plan on placing the fan so that it blows the air into the exhaust, which mounting way is better for me? The Jinobi way or the DarkOneX way?

[mdzcpa]

Hey Wes, I just noticed you are running the same case I have....the Ultra Aluminus. Do you like it? I really like mine alot.

Sorry for the OT. BTW, double prime at 1.5v air cooled on the Asus may not be all that far off. Conroes read high on all the current 975 boards.

[xlink]

here are some pictures...
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3936/s4010062bn0.th.jpg (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s4010062bn0.jpg)
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3719/s4010063mc9.th.jpg (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s4010063mc9.jpg)
sorry to those in Europe, American only measurements here...

hope this helps anyone trying to figure out if the cooler will fit

[WesM63]

Well i just played with it for about 2hrs trying to get my temps down. I have something wrong.. either its still hitting on something or the base on this thing blows bigtime. (You'll see here in a sec.)

I looked it over carefully and don't see it hitting anything.. but it might still be.
I mounted and re-mounted the dang thing 5-6times.. all resulting in the same temps.
Tried mounting it the other way (skinny side facing ram slots), and it will not go on this way. The HS hits capacitors on the top, no way to fix this.
I also put a 130cfm fan on it instead of the stock fan, temps dropped 1-2c.
Touched the heatpipes at 70c full load and nearly burnt my finger tip off.
Thinking maybe thats just how hot it runs, put the coolermaster crap i have back on. SAME EXACT TEMP UNDER LOAD AS INFINITY. Now, something has to be wrong here.

I don't know what else to try at this point. Once again i'm aggervated at this system. Half tempted to buy another cooler and try it.

Here are some pics, check out the bottom of the HS pic. Doesn't look right, what would cause that?

http://www.needmoreboost.com/xs/hs1.jpg

http://www.needmoreboost.com/xs/hs2.jpg

http://www.needmoreboost.com/xs/hs3.jpg

http://www.needmoreboost.com/xs/hs4.jpg

http://www.needmoreboost.com/xs/hs5.jpg

[Jinobi]

Since I plan on placing the fan so that it blows the air into the exhaust, which mounting way is better for me? The Jinobi way or the DarkOneX way?

Wow, I get my own method named after me. Cool. :p:

As far as heatsink orientation goes, it all depends on where your exhaust fan is. Just turn the Infinity so that its fan is facing the exhaust fan. On my P180, I have both options of using either the top or the rear exhaust fan; I used the top one, as my line of reasoning was that heat would be vented out more easily since heat rises.

[pentium777]

Well i just played with it for about 2hrs trying to get my temps down. I have something wrong.. either its still hitting on something or the base on this thing blows bigtime. (You'll see here in a sec.)

I looked it over carefully and don't see it hitting anything.. but it might still be.
I mounted and re-mounted the dang thing 5-6times.. all resulting in the same temps.
Tried mounting it the other way (skinny side facing ram slots), and it will not go on this way. The HS hits capacitors on the top, no way to fix this.
I also put a 130cfm fan on it instead of the stock fan, temps dropped 1-2c.
Touched the heatpipes at 70c full load and nearly burnt my finger tip off.
Thinking maybe thats just how hot it runs, put the coolermaster crap i have back on. SAME EXACT TEMP UNDER LOAD AS INFINITY. Now, something has to be wrong here.

I don't know what else to try at this point. Once again i'm aggervated at this system. Half tempted to buy another cooler and try it.

Here are some pics, check out the bottom of the HS pic. Doesn't look right, what would cause that?

http://www.needmoreboost.com/xs/hs1.jpg

http://www.needmoreboost.com/xs/hs2.jpg

http://www.needmoreboost.com/xs/hs3.jpg

http://www.needmoreboost.com/xs/hs4.jpg

http://www.needmoreboost.com/xs/hs5.jpg

I'd be aggrevated too, that's WAY too hot for some unknown reason? I just bought a B&D dremel with a tungsten carbide bit so here we go infinity grin time, will let you know what temp I get to when I boot up.

[Jinobi]

WesM63: It could be that the Conroe's IHS isn't flat. When I got my Infinity, I reflected a screen door off its surface, and there were no distortions, so the Infinity's base should be pretty flat already. Have you also tried using different temp monitoring programs like Core Temp to see if there's any difference from the ASUS PC Probe one?

[WesM63]

WesM63: It could be that the Conroe's IHS isn't flat. When I got my Infinity, I reflected a screen door off its surface, and there were no distortions, so the Infinity's base should be pretty flat already. Have you also tried using different temp monitoring programs like Core Temp to see if there's any difference from the ASUS PC Probe one?


I think something isn't right. It could be that the IHS isn't flat.

You guys think 70c load is bad at 1.5v check this out. Stock speeds, full load.

[mdzcpa]

If the heatpipes are getting hot, you're making at least some good contact.

That said, that paste pattern on your block is abysmal. Some lapping may be in order. Those temps at 1.2v are way over the top too.

Some lapping and a new HSF may be the ticket.

[WesM63]

If the heatpipes are getting hot, you're making at least some good contact.

That said, that paste pattern on your block is abysmal. Some lapping may be in order. Those temps at 1.2v are way over the top too.

Some lapping and a new HSF may be the ticket.


Mike,
I'm as confused as you are lol.

I suppose I can start lapping. I bought this cooler in order to fix my cooling problems, not have more lol.


BTW, to answer your other question. I love the case :)

[Praxis1452]

think that the conroe ihs may not be that flat...?

[GOATSLAYER]

You should try lapping the conroe IHS,

http://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?t=4735

Here you Go.

[zakelwe]

Wes,

If the heatpipes are too hot to touch then the heat transfer is occuring so I doubt lapping will make a massive difference. You're trying to lose 40C not 1-2C are you not ?

Assuming the temp monitoring software is right ( your fingertips confirming this ) then it seems that the heatsink is becoming saturated with heat. Now I would imagine you do have good airflow going through it so that will not be an issue.

Are the fins getting warm as well as the heatpipes ? Where are the heatpipes warmest ?..are they at least warm at the tops of the pipes ? If it is at the cpu end then I wonder if your heatsink has a structural problem and the heatpipes are not working ... RMA it and get a new one in that case ?

Regards

Andy

[Dubz]

some more pics of the scythe unit in action.

http://www.pro-clockers.com/FCKeditor/uploaded/Image/forum%20stuff/scythe/Picture%20050.jpg

http://www.pro-clockers.com/FCKeditor/uploaded/Image/forum%20stuff/scythe/Picture%20045.jpg

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[nooh]

Yea, i'm going to have to get my dremel back and fix the HS so it doesn't hit. There is no way it should be 70c, like zakelwe said the HS should be warm..its cold to the touch.You know the freezer pro for the abit aw8max i am using , its a PentiumD @4.2ghz and it runs idle at 28c. ALsoits still cold to touch.

The board you have I read a review on it and its the back plate that messes things up. I too have purchased the Infinty and I am a happy owner but now i have to find the right board. If anything more people will have learnt that the HSF may not be for everyone or its the dremel if people still buy it , i guess.

Also how you guys get banners strike board smileys?

@dubs , did you have any problems putting it up? and the temps all good on your end.

[Dubz]

guess i am lucky as i havent had to break out the dremel.

[pentium777]

Same direction setup of P5W DH as Dubz, dremel thing worked out, was quite worried when I was covered and the HSF as well in tiny metal shavings but managed to get them all off.

PC booted and Windows is installed, so far posted no problem 1.30 @ 3ghz and then changed to 1.35 and 1.4 and posted no problem @ 3.6ghz, I noticed though when going past 330FSB that the PC now does a power off and power on when restarting from bios or anywhere for that matter, very annoying. When set to stock speeds or lower FSB such as 325 it doesn't do it, acts like any other MB I've used.

Now that I have Windows installed going to run some Prime95, with Infinity cooler I am 31-32'C in bios at 1.3 or 1.35v when I cranked to 1.4v @ 3.6ghz it went to 36-37'C idle in bios.

Wanted to check my heatpipes on HSF and I was only barely able to detect warmth at all. Perhaps during my Prime95 they will heat up :-) Want to make sure I have really good AS5 contact with CPU before doing some extreme stuff.

Hoping SLI 7900 GTXs work with special 85.96 drivers tonight, would love to break 11000 3dm06 scores.

Does everyone else with OC'd P5W DH have this power off power on issue ?

[Larsson85]

So what you're saying is that both pentium777 and Dubz have a P5W DH Delux, and Dubz didnt have to dremel, but Pentium777 did. Why is that?

Dubz, can you please take one of Pentium777s excellent pictures (or take your own) and do some photoshopping to show where you had to dremel?

How is the temps now compared to the cooler you were using before?

[pentium777]

Ok so far in Windows 31-35'C (getting new Trane XL19i AC unit today so its a bit warm in house)

But last night with ambient temp of 79'F I was idle at approx 31-33'C that's at 1.35v @ 2.97ghz

Full load test dual core went up to 44-45'C w/same ambient then with ambient up to 82'F right now it went to 49'C

I tried to put one of my 120mm panaflow FBA12G12H fans that has great CFM but the fan clips only support a skinny 120mm fan type so I'm stuck with the fan that came with it which is 1200 rpm. Fortunately the HS is so big that it is only 1" away from my rear exhaust panaflow and I think it is helping to draw heat away.

Still not really happy with temps to be honest I'm concerned I might not have applied enough AS5, reason I think this is that the heatpipes are not hot enough when I touch them, possibly because of high efficiency? Don't know for sure.

Going to run some more tests today with closed case.

Sorry no pics was up till 5am and fell asleep in my chair, wife gets up and has a bewildered look on her face fortunately no work for me today or tomorrow, lots of time to play with new rig.

If my temp seems to react pretty quickly to ambient temp do you guys think that I have pretty good contact with CPU?

[pentium777]

So what you're saying is that both pentium777 and Dubz have a P5W DH Delux, and Dubz didnt have to dremel, but Pentium777 did. Why is that?

Dubz, can you please take one of Pentium777s excellent pictures (or take your own) and do some photoshopping to show where you had to dremel?

How is the temps now compared to the cooler you were using before?

All I can say is that maybe he mounted in other direction? Mine is mounted so that 5 heatpipes are toward top and bottom of case it is now taller than it is wider, actually had I mounted it wide it wouldn't have cleared my panaflow exhaust now that I look at it.

Definately though I could see it was going to touch mosfets and most likely 3 capacitors it was too close to want to take a chance.

Also forgot to mention got SLI working on 2x7900GTX cards with 85.96 3dm06 was 10,380 that's at 2.97ghz stock speeds for video cards

In comparison my best score was 9,199 with X2 4400 @ 2.7ghz not a perfect comparison because my system has nothing running in background now like antivirus so shave off 100-200 points and it is approx 1,000 increase

Going to push for 3.2Ghz now with 1.35v see if she can be stable an hour of prime.

[WesM63]

Yep, the HS will touch the mosfets. You cannot mount it any other way, so i'm not exactly sure how dubz managed to mount it without hitting any mosfets.

[davefr]

I think something isn't right. It could be that the IHS isn't flat.

You guys think 70c load is bad at 1.5v check this out. Stock speeds, full load.


All I can say is that my CPU temp has never exceeded 40 degrees during a torture test with an Infinity. (E6600 @1.475Vcore OC'd to 3.3ghz@19 ambient)

If the Infinity heat pipes are evenly hot, then the HSF is very likely doing it's job.

You could simply have a CPU that's at the extreme end of the process distribution curve such that small increases in Vcore cause it to consume much more power.

I would definately keep it well under 70c and try and get your best OC at stock Vcore.

It looks like the Infinity mounting shows clearance over the black IC's. I don't think lapping will help that much but go for it if you're willing to sacrifice the warranty. However I'd get an accurate straight edge and run it across the IHS and HSF while holding it to a light and see how flat the surfaces are.

[WesM63]

davefr,
I'll check it out when I have some more time. I just find it hard to beleive that both the infinity and my $10 coolermaster cooler cool the cpu the same.

[turkishgold11]

humm... will likely want to be mounting that thing as to align with with the exhause fan... PSU can also circulate air towards the general area...


now all i need to know is if it will work with the DFI's lanparty board based on RD600
http://images.tweaktown.com/imagebank/atird600tw06_01.jpg
http://images.tweaktown.com/imagebank/atird600tw06_02.jpg


looks as if it should be able to clear the ram, though I'm worried about the HSF over the chipset HS(if it clears the ram thoguh it shoudl be abel to clear that smll HS but...), it looks liek the cooler they use voerlaps it and clears but still...

yeah man that does help me out, now I just have to wait to see what it looks like in your new rig.

I am expecting big things from this HSF, and no that is not a pun....not to mention when I get it I can OC my proc finally.

[pentium777]

Ok, E6600 I noticed a HUGE difference in heat when I bumped from 1.4-1.5 actually 1.45 was fine but 1.5v @ 3.5Ghz is generating serious heat, room temp right now is 82.6'F and I am running large FFT prime95 dual core, 63-65'C are my temps, idle at this speed and and volt I'm getting 42-45'C

I'm beginning to wonder if I am going to need to remove my HSF and reapply some AS5 :-/ this push pin stuff is a major PITA

Now my prime95 isn't stable at 1.5v 3.5ghz probably due to the 65'C, does not look like 3.6ghz is in my future sadly enough...

Earlier my ambient room temp was 74'F so I think that might have been helping quite a bit, I think some of these conroe chips fluctuate with juicing volts to them and get dramatically hotter.... Only way I can explain my results and Wes' results.

[rob725]

Ok, E6600 I noticed a HUGE difference in heat when I bumped from 1.4-1.5 actually 1.45 was fine but 1.5v @ 3.5Ghz is generating serious heat, room temp right now is 82.6'F and I am running large FFT prime95 dual core, 63-65'C are my temps, idle at this speed and and volt I'm getting 42-45'C


Is that core temp? If it is, I've been prime stable above that (75C), but don't really like running there.

What's the difference between your core and mb temp?

[rob725]

If the heatpipes are getting hot, you're making at least some good contact.


I agree, the heatpipes are pulling heat, but you said you almost burnt your fingertips off. I can stablize core temp at very hot temps, say 60, during rosetta, but mobo is only 43 (this was after a reseating, initially the difference was typically about 13c under load), and heatpipes are no more than warm, which is good because the cooler the pipes, the more heat they can pull from the base (unless of course they're cool from lack of contact, but then it would be hard to stabilize temps). I wonder if somehow, the heat is not getting transfered from the pipes to the fins, which might explain why your base looks like it's been heat treated. Either that, or you just have one really hot cpu.

[STEvil]

Well i just played with it for about 2hrs trying to get my temps down. I have something wrong.. either its still hitting on something or the base on this thing blows bigtime. (You'll see here in a sec.)

I looked it over carefully and don't see it hitting anything.. but it might still be.
I mounted and re-mounted the dang thing 5-6times.. all resulting in the same temps.
Tried mounting it the other way (skinny side facing ram slots), and it will not go on this way. The HS hits capacitors on the top, no way to fix this.
I also put a 130cfm fan on it instead of the stock fan, temps dropped 1-2c.
Touched the heatpipes at 70c full load and nearly burnt my finger tip off.
Thinking maybe thats just how hot it runs, put the coolermaster crap i have back on. SAME EXACT TEMP UNDER LOAD AS INFINITY. Now, something has to be wrong here.

I don't know what else to try at this point. Once again i'm aggervated at this system. Half tempted to buy another cooler and try it.

Here are some pics, check out the bottom of the HS pic. Doesn't look right, what would cause that?



http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=113475

See post 4. This cooler has too low fin density.

[Richard Dower]

Does this cooler fit on a Gigabyte DQ6?

[Shift]

Were your temps good with the Big Typhoon?

Also I don't think he can RAM the Infinity b/c he did dremel some of it.

[WesM63]

Were your temps good with the Big Typhoon?

Also I don't think he can RAM the Infinity b/c he did dremel some of it.


I never had a BT on the e6600. I had a BT on my old opty146 rig.

I decided to go with water instead. Rest of the parts should be arriving here shortly.

[fhpchris]

Were your temps good with the Big Typhoon?

Also I don't think he can RAM the Infinity b/c he did dremel some of it.

His temps with coretemp @ full load @ 1.5v = 70c

With my Sanyo Denki + typhoon I can prime @ 69c or less @ 1.65v.

So, no. Typhoon > this.

Navig did alot of tests of coolers, the typhoon is still great :)

[WesM63]

Actually chris, 70c in Asus probe, core temp was 83-85c. Thus the reason i'm running at stock speeds (and water cooling is on the way). Something is terribly wrong with my cooler. Others don't seem to be getting quite as high of temps as me.

[fhpchris]

Actually chris, 70c in Asus probe, core temp was 83-85c. Thus the reason i'm running at stock speeds (and water cooling is on the way). Something is terribly wrong with my cooler. Others don't seem to be getting quite as high of temps as me.

WOW!

I was talking 68-69c in coretemp!

[xlink]

well mine fits almost flawlessly ona DFI Infinity 975x/g only had to adjust the fan up and that si pretty much something which is effortless

the scythe is infact huge... I'll be taking fishing line to create some sort of a hoiste for it to allow for better and easier moving


on another note, intel did a :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty job with their mounting design, it is seriosuly :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty. no i mean it is the crappiest :banana::banana::banana::banana: i have ever seen. slot A was better, socket A/754/939/940 was better. socket AM2 is better, I bet 478 is better too, heck probably even 423 is better...

[exhausted mule]

^^^ all it is is four holes in the motherboard...

what get's me is scythe bracket.

seems it was designed in a weightless venturi tunnel meant to be mounted with precision 300 pound gorilla fingers operated by a rocket scientist speciallising in physics and geometry.

i mean...

why?

[pentium777]

Is that core temp? If it is, I've been prime stable above that (75C), but don't really like running there.

What's the difference between your core and mb temp?

During Orthos it is running 68'C average with 75'F ambient, mainboard sticks to around 40'C, except when running games in 2560x1600 max AA/AF/super transparency on 2x7900 GTX then mainboard gets to 50'C

[t1no]

Is the Scythe Infinity compatible witb the DFI Ultra-D?

[drtitanium0]

Is the Scythe Infinity compatible witb the DFI Ultra-D?
Compatible, yes. The thing I don't know if is it will fit without hitting anything on the board. I can't find out because nobody on the forum that i know of has tried this combination yet. its really starting to piss me off.

[dinos22]

Not sure what you mean by that, i only gained 1-2c when installing a 130cfm fan on the BT.

it's not CFM but air pressure that's important

i think Kiwi tested this cooler and reckons it was better by 10C to TTBT which sounds a bit off if you ask me>>>just can't see it lol hehehe but these CPUs get really hot and 1.5V is nothing to sneeze at so the temps are probably right

[dinos22]

just saw a pic of another installation

can you check whether your heatsink is sitting on this cap and if MAYBE that's making the base not touch the IHS as well as it should

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/518/cimg0612ni5.jpg (http://img390.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cimg0612ni5.jpg)

[WesM63]

Dino's,
Well that cap is not there on my board. Not to mention the Infinity is setting on the floor beside me ;)


http://www.needmoreboost.com/xs/wcsys.jpg


EDIT: In case anyone is wondering. Setup is: Swiftech Storm, MCP655/D5 pump, BIX 120 with Sanyo Denki fan, 7/16" Master Kleer tubing and some cheap bay res i've had forever. Temps full load at 1.51Vcore 3.6ghz is 65c in Core temp :) (was 83c with infinity)

[Shift]

That's a pretty tight fit for a pump.

So did your temps get better?

[WesM63]

Temps full load at 1.51Vcore 3.6ghz is 65c in Core temp .(was 83c with infinity in core temp)

;) I'd say so.

[t1no]

;) I'd say so.
Did you compare the temps with other air coolers yet? not just the infinity.

[WesM63]

Did you compare the temps with other air coolers yet? not just the infinity.

Did i compare temps of what vs other air coolers? My watercooling vs other air coolers?

I dropped my temps 18c by going to water, that was what I was after. I could care less what other air coolers do now.

[dinos22]

18C drop is a hell of a lot man...............i reckon the infinity just wasn't mounted right but that's awesome mate :toast:

one other thing i would also mount a fan over the upper side of the storm blowing at all the phases/PMWs/caps and maybe another over the RAM if you are pushing it hard

[WesM63]

18C drop is a hell of a lot man...............i reckon the infinity just wasn't mounted right but that's awesome mate :toast:

one other thing i would also mount a fan over the upper side of the storm blowing at all the phases/PMWs/caps and maybe another over the RAM if you are pushing it hard


Funny you say that. I was having some issues.. until I put the other Sanyo Denki over the phases/pwms/caps and seems fine now :)

[xlink]

word to the wise, the infiity can obscure the view of things around the board. my motehrbaord had some semi=large capacitors near the socket which the infinity obscured from sight, I then proceded to route the main ATX power cable through the area f'ing over the capacitors. The results was a lot mroe juice delivered to the chip. The infinifty idled 50Cish and the stock cooler idled 75Cish. I'm sure it's the board because it was in the low 30s(with the infiity) prior to f'ing the capacitors.though i suspect it might just be an issue with a temp sensor... I don't know.

currently in the process of getting a replacement board...

my conclusion: The scythe infiity is an A + cooler. A cooler which is meant to be used by someone with an IQ higher than 50.

I do not have such a tremendously high Intelect such that I should not use the infinity... NEXT BOARD PLEASE...

[dinos22]

Funny you say that. I was having some issues.. until I put the other Sanyo Denki over the phases/pwms/caps and seems fine now :)
yeah those bloody thinks get really hot during prime >> it's good you got it sortout out :cool:

[Anavel0]

Is it just me or are they just making heatsinks larger with more heatpipes and fins?

[xlink]

Is it just me or are they just making heatsinks larger with more heatpipes and fins?
it's definately just you...

wait nvm

no shid they are...

it's just more effective.

they are also using stronger fans.

[Vapor]

Well, for the few hours I had my system up and running today (another dead board....that's 4 for me now :rolleyes: ), I got to test my Infinity for the first time. E6700 @ 3.66GHz 1.6V was ORTHOSing at 54/55C according to core temp, about 10C better than what my BT did (with the same 120x120x25mm 105CFM fan). Idle was low 30s.

At 4GHz 1.675V, 1M loaded the one core at 54C and the other sat at 44C....dual idle was 40/41C. Not sure how this did compared to my BT, as my old P5W DH couldn't get the CPU up to 4GHz air.

3.85GHz 1.65 dual 16M load was 62/63C...vs ~76C of the BT (and the BT could only do it at ~3.8GHz).

These were all done with the same med/high-pressure 105CFM fan.

[Tacops]

Dino's,
Well that cap is not there on my board. Not to mention the Infinity is setting on the floor beside me ;)


http://www.needmoreboost.com/xs/wcsys.jpg


EDIT: In case anyone is wondering. Setup is: Swiftech Storm, MCP655/D5 pump, BIX 120 with Sanyo Denki fan, 7/16" Master Kleer tubing and some cheap bay res i've had forever. Temps full load at 1.51Vcore 3.6ghz is 65c in Core temp :) (was 83c with infinity)


I do not usually post here since i am more of a reader than a poster....but 65c with a swiftech storm is way off you should be getting 44-48C under load at that vcore. I am not saying that its bad to have those temps but I would take out the waterblock check the imprint on the cpu and remount with as5 :) sometimes with watercooling it takes around 2-3 mounts to find the best fit on the cpu.

[WesM63]

I do not usually post here since i am more of a reader than a poster....but 65c with a swiftech storm is way off you should be getting 44-48C under load at that vcore. I am not saying that its bad to have those temps but I would take out the waterblock check the imprint on the cpu and remount with as5 :) sometimes with watercooling it takes around 2-3 mounts to find the best fit on the cpu.


Thanks for the info. I havn't seen 65c since i first installed it. It usually dual loads around 47-48c currently at least. Also dependant on room temp.

[t1no]

Compatible, yes. The thing I don't know if is it will fit without hitting anything on the board. I can't find out because nobody on the forum that i know of has tried this combination yet. its really starting to piss me off.
Do you have a link to show me the Inf is compatible to the DFI Ultra-D?

[NO1B4ME]

Well, for the few hours I had my system up and running today (another dead board....that's 4 for me now :rolleyes: ), I got to test my Infinity for the first time. E6700 @ 3.66GHz 1.6V was ORTHOSing at 54/55C according to core temp, about 10C better than what my BT did (with the same 120x120x25mm 105CFM fan). Idle was low 30s.

At 4GHz 1.675V, 1M loaded the one core at 54C and the other sat at 44C....dual idle was 40/41C. Not sure how this did compared to my BT, as my old P5W DH couldn't get the CPU up to 4GHz air.

3.85GHz 1.65 dual 16M load was 62/63C...vs ~76C of the BT (and the BT could only do it at ~3.8GHz).

These were all done with the same med/high-pressure 105CFM fan.


That is pretty goot temps their. I just ordered the Infinity as well to replace my typhoon.

[Glyphic]

I Just got my infinity the other day.

http://home.comcast.net/~jsthomas86/1.jpg

Does anyone know of a northbridge cooler that will fit under the infinity? I have a DS3 btw. I was looking at this one, but I'm not sure how the dimensions compare to stock. I know that one is short enough, just not if it is the right diameter. http://www.xoxide.com/iceberq.html