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devilmc
08-10-2006, 04:39 PM
Hi there guys, not that you need to know more about the conroe since we all have been here for 3 long months reading here and there about all the possible infos and tests, but i was really curious to test a final release of the conroe E6600 since i heard in some threads that the final samples wouldn't have been as good as the ES ones given to the reviewers, but also i've read that the tray editions are not that good in overclock.

Someone, like me, was also a bit confused about a good cooling system, and most of the users have bought, for a standard air cooling solution, the zalman 9500, and in a first time i was a bit sad about my choice, made 2 months before, when i bought the Artic Freezer 7 Pro, i wasn't sure to get the max out of my conroe.

With all these said, having the freezer 7 pro, not an ES chip, and also a Tray one (couldn't find in the first shipping days a boxed one) i was a lot of scared of not getting any good results.

In the end i could get the conroe at 3,7 GHZ @ 1.5v bench stable at superpi with the freezer 7 pro, with Optimal fan settings not at maximum speed then. Only with the 3Dmark2006 and 2003 i had to pull down the clocks to 3650 mhz or it would freeze on the the CPU Tests, and i didn't really want to try again with more voltages.

On the other hand, sadly, i couldn't get much points from synthetic game benchmarks, cause i really think that my GeForce 7950 GX2 is bugged, i can clock it to 575/745 core/ram, but even if i try to raise the clocks up only by 1 MHZ i won't see anything displayed on the screen but mixed color lines..... so strange, couldn't solve the problem even flashing the card bios with an XFX XXX One.

Anyway, this is my system how it is running now:

-Asus P5W DH Deluxe, no mods, 0903 Bios
-Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Final Step 6 B2 2,4 GHZ Default, 4 MB L2 Shared Cache
-Crucial Ballistics 2x1gb pc6400 ddr2-800 tested @ 820 Mhz with timings cas3-3-3-4-2T @ 2.3v
-XFX GeForce 7950 GX2 XT @ 575/745
-Tagan 580W U22 2Force

I've got some problems with the DH Remote, can't get it to work. And also i couldn't let the two chips work in SLi with 3DMark2005, i dunno why but only one chip was working, i have the same score on the 3DMark2005 that i have in the 2006, so strange, so i didn't include any test on the 3DMark2005 now. I tried different drivers but i couldn't run a 3dmark2005 properly, if someone has some suggestions it would be nice.

So, these are the screens of the tests i've made during these 3 days.

SUPER PI 1M:

http://www.falco-web.it/devilmc/superpi.jpg

SUPER PI 8M:

http://www.falco-web.it/devilmc/superpi8m.jpg

SUPER PI 32M

http://www.falco-web.it/devilmc/superpi32m.jpg

3DMark2001:

http://www.falco-web.it/devilmc/3dmark2001.jpg

3DMark2003:

http://www.falco-web.it/devilmc/3dmark2003.jpg

3DMark2006:

http://www.falco-web.it/devilmc/3dmark2006.jpg

AquaMark 3:

http://www.falco-web.it/devilmc/aquamark3.jpg

I really didn't expect so good results with the final conroe release, and since i wasn't so sure about the freezer 7 pro, and i could only get a tray edition of the e6600, which isn't good for overclock in someone's opinion, i couldn't be more satisfied than this, and i wanted to add also my feedback on the conroe, since i'm sure there are a lot of guys that are not sure how a final conroe would properly work with so many only ES reviews out there.

Maybe i've been lucky, i don't really know, but this E6600 Rox, and strangely, the only think that really pissed me off was the 7950 GX2, i was looking forward to clock it at least @ 600/775 :(

EDIT: For those who wanted to know, this P5W DH Deluxe could run easily at 425 MHZ FSB with no mod, and it was just me that didn't want to try to raise it up more than that, so i'm also very satisfied of the P5W FSB Capacity, in a first time i wanted to buy a bad axe rev4 not trusting the p5w one, but in the end i made the right choice.
sixfootduo
08-10-2006, 04:44 PM
Guess, I got lucky on my 7950X2, two of them in fact, eVGA's do 600 / 1600 all day long

My 3dmark 06 score was 10,200 - 10,300
GoldenTiger
08-10-2006, 04:50 PM
Nice stuff with a standard practical cooler!
Silver Bullet
08-10-2006, 04:51 PM
What are your load temps like at 3.7Ghz? 'cause the freezer 7 pro is a pretty crappy hs.
devilmc
08-10-2006, 04:55 PM
Guess, I got lucky on my 7950X2, two of them in fact, eVGA's do 600 / 1600 all day long

My 3dmark 06 score was 10,200 - 10,300

god.... and i wasn't sure what card to get between evga's and xfx's one....... i should have bought the evga one then, and i even knew that it passed some good overclock tests in reviewers hands, but i dunno why i got hypnotized by the xfx xt one :(
devilmc
08-10-2006, 04:59 PM
What are your load temps like at 3.7Ghz? 'cause the freezer 7 pro is a pretty crappy hs.

That's the cool stuff, i'm running the freezer 7 pro fan @ Optimal settings, which is almost 1200 RPM when it should run at 3000 RPM at full speed, and the cpu in bios hardware monitor stays at 42° idle, not more than 47° in full load after a 3DMARK2006 run with each test in loop x 10 times.

I know i shouldn't care the bios temps, but i also touched the freezer 7 and it wasn't hot, not even much warmed, just normal, and the air coming out from it wasn't that hot too.

@ 3.7 Ghz, 1,5v ... that's why i wanted to give my feedback and my test results, because i'm really impressed about what this tray final step conroe can do on a freezer 7 pro not at maximum fan speed. I would say that it's almost unbeleavable
Durzel
08-10-2006, 05:06 PM
First off, idle in BIOS isn't really idle at all because there's no power-saving instructions being issued to the CPU.

Also, 47 degrees sounds pretty damn low for a load temp (though I haven't tried mine under 3DMark yet). Are you using the thermal material that came preattached to the Freezer 7?

My E6700ES is running at 3.6Ghz @ 1.4250v and dual Prime load temps are 55-57 degrees, with the same cooler and motherboard.......

Do you know whether that speed is actually Prime stable? SuperPI and even 3DMark aren't necessarily accurate indicators of stability.
eklipze
08-10-2006, 05:08 PM
nvm i saw the temps.
Ldawg
08-10-2006, 05:14 PM
use Core Temp for temperature reading, then tell us what it says
devilmc
08-10-2006, 05:17 PM
when i was choosing the cooling solution i opted for the freezer 7 exactly because i didn't have any more money for the cooler :D LOL! I've spent everything for all the other main hardware, and that's why i bought the freezer for only 15 eur. But i also heard it was fine with temps and overclock.

As i said before, i'm at only 1200 RPM (could run the fan @ 3000 rpm but i rather prefer having a so silent pc if it's not hot) and i have 42° idle 47° full cpu load.

To be sure i just touched the cooler and it was not even warmu, just normal.

I was about to buy a zalman or a ninja or a tower 120 (LOL) when i got more money later, when the conroe arrived at home, but i rather preferred to test the freezer 7 pro first, and i don't think i need to buy another cooler :)
devilmc
08-10-2006, 05:18 PM
First off, idle in BIOS isn't really idle at all because there's no power-saving instructions being issued to the CPU.

Also, 47 degrees sounds pretty damn low for a load temp (though I haven't tried mine under 3DMark yet). Are you using the thermal material that came preattached to the Freezer 7?

My E6700ES is running at 3.6Ghz @ 1.4250v and dual Prime load temps are 55-57 degrees, with the same cooler and motherboard.......

Do you know whether that speed is actually Prime stable? SuperPI and even 3DMark aren't necessarily accurate indicators of stability.

No, i used the freezer 7 pro in a first time with the Pentium D 805 that i could easily run at 4 ghz, just waiting for the conroe, in the second freezer 7 installation with the conroe i just used some artic silver 5. Hmm, and you are right about the prime, i didn't test it yet with prime cause i really don't want to leave my pc benching alone so long. That's why i benched it with 3dmark2006 with 10x loop for each test at low fan profile, and videocard at max detail with anisotropic and astuff, so i could test how the system could handle 1 hour full stress gaming bench, and it passed with no artifact and crashes or errors, that's just fine.
devilmc
08-10-2006, 05:34 PM
i'm @ 3500 Mhz for the daily use, using the same 1.5v setting.

In the bios it just said 39°C (rebooted just to see it), while Core Temp is giving me 50°C for the first core and 47°C for the second one.

Let's say that from now on i should consider the real temp as bios temp + 10 (if Core Temp is giving me the true temp :D).

http://www.falco-web.it/devilmc/coretemp.jpg
Ldawg
08-10-2006, 05:38 PM
and thats IDLE, now get some double sp2004 running and check the temp after an hour...if it makes it that long. i noticed the only stability test u show is pi32m...unless u just didnt show pics :)
devilmc
08-10-2006, 05:44 PM
and thats IDLE, now get some double sp2004 running and check the temp after an hour...if it makes it that long. i noticed the only stability test u show is pi32m...unless u just didnt show pics :)

Yep SPI32M and 3DMark2006 are the most stressing test i've just done so far at 3650/3700 Mhz.

I've just seen the temps in the Bios, 39/42 Idle, 47/50 Full load.

I didn't know that Core Temp show +10 average temps, but, what's the true temp? If it is like Core Temp says, i just stay at 70°C in the tests..... and so far i've touched the cooler and i could refresh my hands on it :D

Anyway i'll try the bench with stress prime 2004, which edition should i try? link please :)
eklipze
08-10-2006, 05:46 PM
sp2004= stability test its like same as prime95 but a easier to user version.. kinda..
devilmc
08-10-2006, 05:53 PM
i'll run it in few seconds, but at 3,5 ghz cause i don't want to reboot now, i'm still @ 1.5v anyway.

Can you tell me which test i have to run for you? small, large, blend, or custom (memory usage quantity?)
Durzel
08-10-2006, 06:02 PM
I've been running Small mainly because at my current FSB (360) I'm not even at the rated RAM speed anyway. I'm not an expert on SP2004 though so YMMV.

I downloaded the ORTHOS version which appears to be engineered for dual cores (runs two instances at once)
devilmc
08-10-2006, 06:28 PM
while i was waiting for the reply i rebooted and loaded default bios settings...

These are the cpu temp with Core Temp @ def frequency and vcore, with 2000 rpm fan

http://www.falco-web.it/devilmc/default_temp.jpg

and previously i was running the cpu at 3500 mhz 1,5v with only 1000 rpm fan (ultra silent for daily use) and it was only 50°........ so do you think +9°C @ +50% overclock and half the fan speed is a bad thing? i rather think it's a miracolous think :) (btw bios still says 37/39°C now).
xpsentity
08-10-2006, 06:46 PM
You never had a problem with needing to set SPD enabled for the board to post?

Past maybe.. 360 FSB.
Shrekogre
08-10-2006, 07:05 PM
whats the batch no for the 6600?
devilmc
08-10-2006, 07:11 PM
You never had a problem with needing to set SPD enabled for the board to post?

Past maybe.. 360 FSB.

nope, i'm at 390 fsb daily, and over 400 during tests, always using not spd settings and had no problems during startup posts.
devilmc
08-10-2006, 07:14 PM
whats the batch no for the 6600?

didn't get it before installing the cpu on the mobo, as soon as i'll have to take it off i'll take a pic.
Shrekogre
08-10-2006, 07:24 PM
didn't get it before installing the cpu on the mobo, as soon as i'll have to take it off i'll take a pic.

its also written on the box :)
eklipze
08-10-2006, 08:51 PM
What are your load temps like at 3.7Ghz? 'cause the freezer 7 pro is a pretty crappy hs.


the AC freezer isn't crappy lol i'm probably getting it cuz look at this review.

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article285-page1.html
Brahmzy
08-10-2006, 09:10 PM
Man that's a nice non ES E6600 ya got thar!

I think I made the right decidion giving up the DS3 for the P5W DH for my E6600.

We shall see Monday night.
Supremeboy
08-11-2006, 10:12 AM
DevilMC whats your other volts like vmem, vfsb, vich ect. I have problems getting oc over 340fsb. Hangs before getting into win.
xpsentity
08-11-2006, 10:34 AM
DevilMC whats your other volts like vmem, vfsb, vich ect. I have problems getting oc over 340fsb. Hangs before getting into win.

Disable Hyperpath.

Set SPD for ram.
devilmc
08-11-2006, 11:09 AM
its also written on the box :)

as i said, it's a tray :)
devilmc
08-11-2006, 11:13 AM
DevilMC whats your other volts like vmem, vfsb, vich ect. I have problems getting oc over 340fsb. Hangs before getting into win.

auto voltages for the three values under the vcore one, i have the ram's @ 2.2v for daily use and at 2.3v for testing when i set the fsb more than 400 Mhz, but everytime i'm using timings cas 3 - 3 - 3 - 4 - 2T which are actually the default timings i'm using on these ballistics for each test.

Sometimes, just because someone suggested me to do link this, i set the other three voltages under vcore @ 1,40v - 1,60v - 1,20v. But it's bench stable also on AUTO, i just need to set manually the cpu and ram voltages since it's a huge overclock for an air cooled system, and also because i'm using ultra low timings on the DDR2-800+ rams.