ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

[lawrywild]

Well, considering lots of people are having quite a few problems overclocking on this board recently, I thought it'd be a good idea to start this thread. I'll update this post with the problems and fixes if people post them here and in other threads. Here's things I've found with my E6600 so far..

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http://www.asus.com.tw/999/images/products/1198/1198_l.jpg

lawrywild's current recommended BIOS version: 2801 (http://rapidshare.com/files/147087399/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2801.rar) Note: EIST setting doesn't work, use C1E instead.
Problem - Fix.


BIOS Archive


P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-0065 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48610117/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-0065.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-0078 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48610259/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-0078.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-0088 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48610386/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-0088.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-0301 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48610530/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-0301.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-0401 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48610654/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-0401.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-0502 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48610794/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-0502.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-0504 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48610954/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-0504.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-0602 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48611087/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-0602.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-0604 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48611240/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-0604.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-0701 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48611393/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-0701.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-0801 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48611559/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-0801.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-0901 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48611684/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-0901.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-0903 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48611832/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-0903.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1001 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48611990/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1001.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1101 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48612147/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1101.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1201 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48612306/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1201.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1301 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48612442/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1301.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1305 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48612621/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1305.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1401 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48612752/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1401.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1402 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48612903/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1402.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1403 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48613041/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1403.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1404 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48613175/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1404.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1405 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48613322/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1405.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1407 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48613456/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1407.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1501 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48613603/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1501.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1502 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48613751/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1502.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1503 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48613873/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1503.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1506 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48607923/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1506.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1601 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48608097/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1601.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1602 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48608272/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1602.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1703 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48608428/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1703.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1705 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48608554/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1705.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1707 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48608700/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1707.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1801 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48608853/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1801.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1803 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48609001/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1803.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1804 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48609162/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1804.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1901 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48609329/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1901.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2001 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48609475/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2001.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2004 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48609629/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2004.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2103 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48620278/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2103.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2205 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48609782/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2205.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2206 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48609961/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2206.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2004-G0-45nm-Edition (http://rapidshare.com/files/48571746/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2004-G0-45nm-Edition.rar) (Modified by lawrywild)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2301 (http://rapidshare.com/files/52620290/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2301.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2302 (http://rapidshare.com/files/54972558/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2302.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2403 (http://rapidshare.com/files/71734780/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2403.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2406 (http://rapidshare.com/files/71733677/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2406.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2503 (http://rapidshare.com/files/82704550/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2503.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2504 (http://rapidshare.com/files/82903541/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2504.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2602 (http://rapidshare.com/files/87310347/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2602.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2704 (http://rapidshare.com/files/101952461/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2704.rar)
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2801 (http://rapidshare.com/files/147087399/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2801.rar)


ASUS FTP (ftp://anonymous:*****@ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/asus/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/)

AMI Bios Tools (http://rapidshare.com/files/48614268/AMI_tool_8_RC1.rar)

Latest Drivers HERE (http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20061112200624969&board_id=1&model=P5W+DH+Deluxe&page=1&SLanguage=en-us) [DutchBBQ what happened to this?]

FSB Wall at low fsb around 300 - Disable Hyperpath 3 in the Chipset section of the bios. [Credit - lawrywild]

The issue is that the P5W DH normally overclocks the 975X NB by changing its strapping from 1066 to 800. This gives better benchmarks at stock speeds, but limits the FSB speed. This feature is controlled by the "Hyper Path 3" BIOS switch; disabling this forces the 1066 strap and allows much higher FSB speeds without overvolting the NB.

FSB Wall at around 360-370 fsb - Enable SPD timings option in Chipset section of bios.

Extremely slow POST - Disable everything to do with fans in "Hardware Monitor". [Credit - OBR]

POST lock up during Detecting IDE Devices - Restart and plug in some USB storage OR change SATA harddrive to other header. [Credit - OPB]

VCore only option Auto - EITHER Flash using AFUDOS and the tags "afudos /i****.rom /p /b /n /c" (without quotes) , then clear cmos as the manual describes [Credit - OPB] OR Disable Speedstep and Enhanced C1 Control in the Cpu Configuration section of the BIOS. [Credit - DjLeco]

Slow POST (SATA Only Users) - If you're running all SATA drives (Optical and HDD) .. and are getting slow boot times mark the IDE ports and "not installed" in the bios .. saves you the 30sec detection time for each drive. [Credit - Silver Bullet]

Random 256C cpu temperature bug - Not really a fix but usuallyonly happens when running CPU-Z.

USB devices don't power off after shutdown - A standard feature of ASUS motherboards.

Motherboard cold boots when you restart - Seems to be a standard feature in the motherboard although it doesn't seem to do it at stock.

NOW FIXED IN BIOS 1503

BIOS seems to hang when entering Monitoring section - No fix.

Keyboard connected via a USB Hub. When system is shut down pressing the keyboard starts the PC. - No fix as of yet, Disabled PS2 Keyboard Startup does nothing to stop this.

Network Disconnecting - Upgrade Marvell Yukon NIC to latest driver; http://www.marvell.com/drivers/driverDisplay.do?dId=116&pId=3 [Credit - BulldogPO]

CPU Fan Error upon POST when cpu fan is not connected to onboard header - Set cpu fan to Ignore in Hardware Monitoring section of BIOS.

Remote Control will only shutdown board and does not power it up - Enable "Power on after Power loss" option in the ASUS DH Remote control panel in windows. Also make sure the USB receiver is connected to USB Ports 3 or 4.

Blue Screen Of Death when installing Win XP SP2 - Disable 1394 (Firewire) and Jmicron controller from within BIOS.

Antec NeoHE Power Supply Units - Buy something decent. :p:

Probe 2 and SpeedFan start reporting the CPU temperature as 128C. This goes away after a while. In this state, Probe alternates between 128 and 256, and Speedfan stays at 128. - Try Everest Ultimate Edition or use Core Temp (see notes below).

Silent CPU Fan Profile won't work in BIOS when Vcore is above Auto - Try setting to Optimal Fan Profile, worked for me..


Notes:

-- Cpu temperature reported by PC Probe or Speedfan etc is from a sensor integrated into the motherboard itself. To get temperature readings from the on-die sensor, use "Core Temp (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=103638)" (freeware) or Everest Ultimate Edition.

-- The motherboard temperature reported in any motherboard monitoring application is the reading from a thermistor placed on the pcb, not the 975x Northbridge.

-- VMODS can be found here:

- http://sg.vr-zone.com/?i=3876
or
- http://www.benchzone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=36

Recommended Aircoolers: (in no order)
Thermalright Ultra-120
Tuniq/Sunbeam Tower 120
Noctua NH-U12
Noctua NH-U9
Thermaltake Big Typhoon (/VX)
Zalman CNPS9700LED
Scythe Ninja (/rev.B)
Scythe Infinity
Thermalright XP-90/C
Thermalright SI-120
Thermalright XP-120
ASUS Silent Square
Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme
Thermalright IFX-14

Recommended silent fan:
Nexus Real Silent 120mm (Handpicked Yate Loon) 1000rpm

Recommended Chipset Heatsinks:
Thermalright HR-05 (use asus clip)
Thermalright HR-05 SLI (use asus clip)
Thermalright NB-1/C
Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II
Swiftech whatever they're called
ASUS stock cooler + 40mm fan

More added later..

[OBR]

Slow posting - Disable every fan Q-Controls in "Hardware Monitor", it is working for me, after disabing of it i have speed boot up.

[Fr3ak]

"BIOS seems to hang when entering Monitoring section"
Thats no bug, it takes some time no matter what bios version

"Motherboard cold boots when you restart"
Thats some kind of OC protection. Annoying, but no bug.


Furthermore I cant boot with manually set ram timings above 400FSB. Works fine for 400FSB and below.
There are some more things that seem to act up when running above 400Mhz FSB (random reboots).
Disabling Hyperpath, EIST, Speedstep, C1 helped some guys getting higher OCs.
"Random 256C cpu temperature bug"
Happens to me only when I open CPU-Z.

[lawrywild]

"BIOS seems to hang when entering Monitoring section"
Thats no bug, it takes some time no matter what bios version

"Motherboard cold boots when you restart"
Thats some kind of OC protection. Annoying, but no bug.


Furthermore I cant boot with manually set ram timings above 400FSB. Works fine for 400FSB and below.
There are some more things that seem to act up when running above 400Mhz FSB (random reboots).
Disabling Hyperpath, EIST, Speedstep, C1 helped some guys getting higher OCs.
"Random 256C cpu temperature bug"
Happens to me only when I open CPU-Z.

It is a bug, you'll find that sometimes with bios's before 0801 it'll take about 4 mins but with 0801 and above it takes no more than 10 seconds.

Never said the cold boots were a bug...

That's what this "FSB Wall at around 360-370 fsb - Enable SPD timings option in Chipset section of bios." one is for.

I'll look into the cpu-z thing..

[inzane.oc]

will a 7950GTX work on the mb?

[DEVIL_DK]

FSB Wall at around 360-370 fsb - Enable SPD timings option in Chipset section of bios.


help me right now i run 380 fsb the higest i have ben able to boot up at.
before max where 360

[Pandamonia]

the mem dividers just dont work properly at all.

this mobo is rubbish, im waiting for OCZ tony to test it next week maybe he will figure it out

[Haltech]

Larry, the BIOS doesnt seem to hang for me prior to 903... however, its about an 8-10 second delay before it pops up.

The memory dividers and no manual control over memory timings is what is making me upset.

[OBR]

the mem dividers just dont work properly at all.

this mobo is rubbish, im waiting for OCZ tony to test it next week maybe he will figure it out

Yes, mem divider is biggest problem of this MoBo, i have good CPU OC, but i need more frequency to memory ... i will buy another board ...

[MacClipper]

>FSB Wall at around 360-370 fsb - Enable SPD timings option in Chipset section of bios.

Now at E6300@400FSB, noted

Have to enable SPD else the PC can't POST
Set on AUTO - Hyperpath, DRAM Thottling, all voltage settings except vMCH at 1.55V
Had to use 4:3 ratio to get stability with my 2 x 1 GB Patriot DDR667 sticks which kind of sucks since I can't even tighten the timings with SPD mandatory for POSTing.

Disabling Hyperpath3 did not help o'cing higher on my set.

[Silver Bullet]

SLOW BOOT (SATA ONLY) - If you're running all SATA drives (Opt and SATA) .. and are getting slow boot times mark the IDE ports and "not installed" in the bios .. saves you the 30sec detection time for each drive.

[Jimbo]

So would this motherboard not be reccomended then?

I have one on order to go alongside my E6600 and Gskill 2gig NR.

[Silver Bullet]

So would this motherboard not be reccomended then?

I have one on order to go alongside my E6600 and Gskill 2gig NR.

The motherboard is fine .. this is just a place to get around the common problems that people have been having.

[lawrywild]

SLOW BOOT (SATA ONLY) - If you're running all SATA drives (Opt and SATA) .. and are getting slow boot times mark the IDE ports and "not installed" in the bios .. saves you the 30sec detection time for each drive.

added

[Delly]

will a 7950GTX work on the mb?

yes... :)

[Mr.X]

Nice thread, it will be useful when I get my E6600 for sure.

[k0nsl]

Hmm. I never experianced this with any bios. 4-5 seconds is the absolute max I have seen with any bios.

0801 gets there instantly (for me).

-k0nsl

It is a bug, you'll find that sometimes with bios's before 0801 it'll take about 4 mins but with 0801 and above it takes no more than 10 seconds.

[MacClipper]

>Random 256C cpu temperature bug - No fix as of yet.

btw, this seems only to happen with Asus Probe, Speedfan CPU temp monitoring does not report any swings.

[AndrewZorn]

i still get hangs on 903 when going into hardware monitor...
and my usb devices dont stay on

[$oul]

Can all these problems be solved by new bios? like the mem divider etc
there isn't any hardware problem with the board i mean ?

[John600rr]

i still get hangs on 903 when going into hardware monitor...

Same with me on on 903.

[AndrewZorn]

not always though. not sure what causes it.

i DO know that back when my CPU was running hot... maybe 50*C+ idle/bios... it took FOREVER. for some reason better cooling speeds it up. also waiting before going in there helps too. like, if its the first thing you do superspeedyfast then youll have to wait, but not if you do other stuff in the meantime

considering these two things it is probably just verifying temps and whatnot, which is why higher temperatures may take it longer?

[arrakys]

prob using a noiseblocker SX2 fan plugged on the motherboard.. bios reporting stupid speeds (12000 rpm oO) and making hangs all the time in monitoring section or when using pc probe 2.

no fix yet.

[xgman]

AI Booster shows wrong fsb with bios 901 & 903.

[DEVIL_DK]

what is the best and most stable bios for this board.

[lawrywild]

I think 903 is best atm

[Haltech]

Ive gotten further with my Celly D with 903 than any other BIOS so far. My conroe should be here sometime mid week, its a 6600 Retail, so we will see where it goes.

[ruler22]

People who have this board, do you like this board? Would you recommend it to someone why is trying to get an OC of only like 3GHz or so?

[xgman]

People who have this board, do you like this board? Would you recommend it to someone why is trying to get an OC of only like 3GHz or so?


easily.

[lawrywild]

People who have this board, do you like this board? Would you recommend it to someone why is trying to get an OC of only like 3GHz or so?

Definately a fine board if you only want 3ghz ;)

[dante_de]

Definately a fine board if you only want 3ghz ;)

Hopefully this will get better with newer BIOS-versions...

[vmsein]

Does anyone else have the problem where cpu-z reports the wrong cpu voltage once you go over 1.425-1.450 in the bios? Not sure if this is a bios issue or a cpu-z bug.

[xgman]

Does anyone else have the problem where cpu-z reports the wrong cpu voltage once you go over 1.425-1.450 in the bios? Not sure if this is a bios issue or a cpu-z bug.


yes. ignore it.

[Tallman]

P5WDH ; retail box E67600 ; ddr 1000 4 5 4 15 ; bios 0903

If I select anything over ddr 900 in bios I get no post at all

Hyperpath 3 disabled
vdimm 2.2
vcore 1.4265
pcie 105
pci 33
vmch 1.55

I can now enable mem timings as before it would not boot if I did that.


EDIT: It seems that the limitation of posting with more than ddr 900 selected in bios has something tied to what fsb you are running. I lowered my fsb to 270 at the suggestion of another member and now I can select ddr 1080 and am in windows. So my ram is @ 540Mhz 4 5 4 15 1:2 so far. But I am not liking the low fsb. Super Pi is slower

[[G.N.U.]Fragman]

tallman why 105 for pci-e ?

having problems with mine ..running FSB 370 atm at 1,425v ...45-47c under occt torture...pretty nice...but i want more :D ...thx devil will try SPD for RAM...hope it helps...but it seems voltage doesnt help much when making it stable......

[Tallman]

Fragman']tallman why 105 for pci-e ?

having problems with mine ..running FSB 370 atm at 1,425v ...45-47c under occt torture...pretty nice...but i want more :D ...thx devil will try SPD for RAM...hope it helps...but it seems voltage doesnt help much when making it stable......

That was a through-back from when I was pushing my 805D. It worked there so I tried it here. Now I am back to auto volts for everything except vcore and vdimm and I am at 366 fsb, 1.5 vcore 2m prime stable

49923

cpu-z shows wrong volts and AiBooster shows wrong fsb,,,,,,AiBooster also shows the randon 255-256c core temp

[[G.N.U.]Fragman]

all the asus software is so slow..like it was coded in java....uses everest to tell me most of it....

how about that FSB thingy down at vdimm (below vcore) ???
and the last ihc i think the name is...something to change ?

[Tallman]

Yeah, I have Everest now too. It sure puts a lot in sys tray though


fsb termination----I tried changing it and am back at "auto" with it

ICH voltage---I played with it also----again, I am back to "auto" there as well

[Tallman]

>Random 256C cpu temperature bug - No fix as of yet.

btw, this seems only to happen with Asus Probe, Speedfan CPU temp monitoring does not report any swings.


Happens in AiBooster also

[csidden]

I know this is not exactly what you are looking for in this thread, but my biggest problem with the Asus P5 DH is simply finding one. They seem to be out of stock EVERYWHERE except EBAY where sellers are nearing $300 counting shipping...

[AndrewZorn]

wow now i feel good about paying under $250 shipped for mine a while ago

[Tallman]

Some of you may be interested in this that I found in another thread


Credit for the post below goes to lopri:





" People who can't go past 360~370FSB, it's not because your board is crappy. It's by design. ASUS is forcing tight chipset timings at 1066 strap, which will set the FSB wall at base 266FSB +100FSB. (It's too long to explain and I just learned about it myself). If you want to go past that wall, you HAVE TO give up 4:5, 3:5, etc. 1:1 will take you up around 430 (333 base FSB + 100). After that you have to give up 1:1 to go up higher, but at that point the chipset will physically give up at 1.65V max. Again, it's by design. Asus went on the route to tighten the chipset timings that's why we see the fastest PI scores on this board. On the contrast, Gigabyte went on the opposite way (w/ DS3, I don't know about other models) and that's why we see such sky high FSB but their memory dividers/timings are all messed up.

If your memory is good up to 1066MHz, try running 1:2 @266FSB. It'll run like a charm. "

[ruler22]

I have one of these mobo's pre-ordered at acortech.com (they told me they had 2 in stock when i ordered, but they lied and they were pre-ordered) but im going to see if I can get one off newegg when they get them in stock again, which should be tomorrow or tuesday

[dad11345]

I know this is not exactly what you are looking for in this thread, but my biggest problem with the Asus P5 DH is simply finding one. They seem to be out of stock EVERYWHERE except EBAY where sellers are nearing $300 counting shipping...

Try here:http://www.antaresdigital.com/

[AndrewZorn]

Try here:http://www.antaresdigital.com/
looks good too
http://www.resellerratings.com/seller11455.html
even mentions someone getting a conroe from them, WAY early...
EDIT unless they were talking about yonah or something, WAY late...

[OBR]

EDIT: It seems that the limitation of posting with more than ddr 900 selected in bios has something tied to what fsb you are running. I lowered my fsb to 270 at the suggestion of another member and now I can select ddr 1080 and am in windows. So my ram is @ 540Mhz 4 5 4 15 1:2 so far. But I am not liking the low fsb. Super Pi is slower

Interesting, BUT i cant to run my RAM on 1066 @everything defaults = FSB 266, if i will set at default 1066 mem divider my system is posting but with loading of windows i have this message : File : C>//////win/...config is broken, repair it with CD and push R key ... and reboot ...

[nguyenquochuy]

can you guy tell me max FSB of E6300 on this board ?

[Blacklash]

There are benches with mine and a 7950 GX2 here:

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=74516

About the 8th post.

[csidden]

Try here:http://www.antaresdigital.com/

Purchased (I got the last one!) - Thank you! :toast:

:toast:

[GrossmeisterB]

My P5WDH shipped today, my retail E 6400 is at home allready!!

:banana: :banana: :banana:

So, you'll see some benchies tomorrow maybe...^^

[egandt]

bsicly with my new x6800 I can boot at 333x10 3337MHZ without issue memory 999MHZ 5,5,5,15 2.15V, but when I set it to 352x10 3520MHZ memory 9xxMHZ 5,5,5,15 2.15V and core at 1.475 whenever I reboot (not cold boot) I get a warning saying that it could not load the CPU or Memory voltage overclocks, but if I enter bios (F1 as its an error) save and let it restart everything is fine. I'm on the version 901 bios any ideas?

ERIC

[mion]

any mods for that board

[Zulusman]

Sure
They are in making thred - sticky one.
The images are done.
Many thanks to kyosen and FCG.

Vdimm
http://bird.zero.ad.jp/~zan89925/p5wdh_Vdimm.jpg

Vmch
http://bird.zero.ad.jp/~zan89925/p5wdh_Vmch.jpg

Just added vr-zone pencil mods :)
http://vr-zone.com/?i=3876&s=1

[antoine76]

Random 256C cpu temperature bug : I have this bug when CPU-Z runs.

[OBR]

About pencil mods ... whats more voltage i will get on NB after this mod? Anyone tried it?

[[G.N.U.]Fragman]

well just a little ..not tested stable result: vcore 1,55 vmch 1,65 hyperpath3 disabled, SPD timings and 2,2 volts on ocz pc6400 XTC ....made my goal 400FSB/3,6Ghz.....MB 34 and CPU 44 idle with air (xp120)

[leejsmith]

does anyone else have an external usb drive connected to there p5w-dh ?
with my maxtor drive connected my system was taking 5 mins + to boot into windows and i tested the drive with hdtach and found it running at 23mb/s
after i switched the drive off it booted as normal.
the p5w-dh has bios 0901

[lawrywild]

does anyone else have an external usb drive connected to there p5w-dh ?
with my maxtor drive connected my system was taking 5 mins + to boot into windows and i tested the drive with hdtach and found it running at 23mb/s
after i switched the drive off it booted as normal.
the p5w-dh has bios 0901

I do have one connected aswell.

Go to Hardware Monitor in BIOS and disable Q-Fan on cpu, pwn and chassis (all of them basically)

[theoryzero]

Can you disable the Wi-fi in the BIOS or do I need to remove the card? Can't find a BIOS setting to enable/disable.

[fornowagain]

Not in the bios, you can disable the driver in device manager. Or just unplug it.

[leejsmith]

I do have one connected aswell.

Go to Hardware Monitor in BIOS and disable Q-Fan on cpu, pwn and chassis (all of them basically)

I did that already and remove the wireless ,apply new as5 to the chipset coolers, make sure ram settings are set to spd.

going to stick at 333fsb for 3ghz @ stock voltage until i get the drives working.

i did have it running at 377fsb for 3.4ghz 1.4v and it ran dual prime for 10 mins but after a reboot it reset in 1m pi.

[alpha0ne]

does anyone else have an external usb drive connected to there p5w-dh ?
with my maxtor drive connected my system was taking 5 mins + to boot into windows and i tested the drive with hdtach and found it running at 23mb/s
after i switched the drive off it booted as normal.
the p5w-dh has bios 0901

You can have similar problems when using a keyboard that has a few USB hubs

The best way to fix it is to set the ICH chipset V to 1.2V :) and setting legasy USB to AUTO

[M.Beier]

Some more issues:
No boot with more than 2.05 vmch :|
No 1:1 with 430+ FSB - 4:5's good though (but how many mem hits 540-600mhz?)

- FSB Wall around: 520-530FSB

4:5 seems unstable as well btw.. - But great for benchies when 1:1 aint availible..

With low temps:
CPU temp read in windows: 128 degC

...

And now, I dont know if this is a mobo issue, CPU gets unstable at 1.675v+ - its a E6600, but a fellow mate of mine said his X6800 has sweetspot around 1.9v, a very reliable source a XS mod btw..

[rick_fx]

Just added vr-zone pencil mods :)
http://vr-zone.com/?i=3876&s=1

Thanks for the link. Gonna mod my board tomorrow :)

[Vapor]

Some more issues:
No boot with more than 2.05 vmch :|
No 1:1 with 430+ FSB - 4:5's good though (but how many mem hits 540-600mhz?)

- FSB Wall around: 520-530FSB

4:5 seems unstable as well btw.. - But great for benchies when 1:1 aint availible..

With low temps:
CPU temp read in windows: 128 degC

...

And now, I dont know if this is a mobo issue, CPU gets unstable at 1.675v+ - its a E6600, but a fellow mate of mine said his X6800 has sweetspot around 1.9v, a very reliable source a XS mod btw..
I can address/backup a few of those I think....

>2.05 problems, someone else mentioned this, no work around it seems....pretty much, if your NB/memcontroller can't do what you need it to do with proper cooling and 2V, try a new board or upgrade to an X6800 :shrug:

No 1:1 >430, never heard this one....but definitely intriguing, is this bootspeed or clockgen speed? I'm very interested in this one as I'll be needing 435+ 1:1 for my E6700, and my memcontroller can't do 540 (but it loves 430 3-3-3, :shrug: ) :eek:

Agreed on the 4:5 being fairly unstable....definitely something not right with it at least.

128C is when CPUz opens/is open, right? ;) (or just when too low?....if so, both are known bugs that we just have to live with :-/)

Is the 1.6875/1.7 you're trying to set in BIOS or with a vmod? The last two values have known bugs :(

[M.Beier]

I can address/backup a few of those I think....

>2.05 problems, someone else mentioned this, no work around it seems....pretty much, if your NB/memcontroller can't do what you need it to do with proper cooling and 2V, try a new board or upgrade to an X6800 :shrug:

No 1:1 >430, never heard this one....but definitely intriguing, is this bootspeed or clockgen speed? I'm very interested in this one as I'll be needing 435+ 1:1 for my E6700, and my memcontroller can't do 540 (but it loves 430 3-3-3, :shrug: ) :eek:

Agreed on the 4:5 being fairly unstable....definitely something not right with it at least.

128C is when CPUz opens/is open, right? ;) (or just when too low?....if so, both are known bugs that we just have to live with :-/)

Is the 1.6875/1.7 you're trying to set in BIOS or with a vmod? The last two values have known bugs :(

I dont wanna purchase X6800, to expensive IMO, might get one sooner or later though..

Well, the 1:1 is quite well known, I thought it was my mem, but google'd it, it seems I werent only one with that issue, Rol-co changed to 4:5 as well...
- But for some boards it all the way up to 445-455 FSB for 1:1 is good... - Only after..

:banana::banana::banana::banana:, seriously, is the two last settings bugged? - Explains quite alot, no I didnt get it vcore modded nor Tcore/vdroop, only vmch & vdimm..

The 128degC readin' was with DIIIICE :)

- But I'll def try vcore moddin' this sucker if I put DICE or LN2 on it again, or even my mach II...

Thanx alot for the advise mate :)

[Pedro Rocha]

Some more issues:
No boot with more than 2.05 vmch :|
No 1:1 with 430+ FSB - 4:5's good though (but how many mem hits 540-600mhz?)

- FSB Wall around: 520-530FSB

4:5 seems unstable as well btw.. - But great for benchies when 1:1 aint availible..

With low temps:
CPU temp read in windows: 128 degC

...

And now, I dont know if this is a mobo issue, CPU gets unstable at 1.675v+ - its a E6600, but a fellow mate of mine said his X6800 has sweetspot around 1.9v, a very reliable source a XS mod btw..


No problem at all here at 450FSB 1:1 with the X6800 cooled by the VapoLS as you can see :

http://pedrorocha.planetaclix.pt/X6800_4500_DDR900_333.jpg

vMCH at around 1.75 with the mod

For serious benching 1:1 always better than 4:5

Wih the VCore you can go up to 1.9v or more IF, and only if, you can use proper cooling.. in my case the sweet spot for the X6800 in the cascade (-92 load) was aroun 1.85v .. for single phase do not recomend more than 1.70 load (around 1.75v in bios with mod) and for air much less of course ..

[M.Beier]

Well, I stop when CPU aint benefittin' from more :)

But odd, what bios do you guys use? And what date did you purchase mobo?
I still use 0701 - my mobo came with that one...

Pedro, I plan runnin' LN2 for next bench session, but -25 cold liquid for 24/7 :)

[simonmaltby]

Odd issue to report, with no solution.

Keyboard connected via a USB Hub. When system is shut down pressing the keyboard starts the PC. PS2 Keyboard startup is disabled in bios. This is very anoying.

Bios 903

[MacClipper]

Has anyone tried hooking a 16x DVD burner successfully to the onboard JMicron PATA port? The Asus manual says it does not support ATAPI but the JMicron site says it does,

http://www.jmicron.com/JMB363.html

I was about to spring for a ITE 8212 PCI IDE card (also touchy for proper 16x DVD burner support) for my other DVD burners when I decided to pop by JMicron webbie for a doublecheck on ATAPI support.

The JMB363 supports both AHCI and Legacy IDE controller to increase system feasibility, including Native Command Queuing (NCQ), Hot Plugging, ATAPI Device Supporting, Port Multiplier with Command-based Switching Supporting, Programmable Output Swing Control to fit SATA II Gen1m and Gen2m (External SATA Connection, eSATA).

[Kantana]

Has anyone tried hooking a 16x DVD burner successfully to the onboard JMicron PATA port? The Asus manual says it does not support ATAPI but the JMicron site says it does,

http://www.jmicron.com/JMB363.html

I was about to spring for a ITE 8212 PCI IDE card (also touchy for proper 16x DVD burner support) for my other DVD burners when I decided to pop by JMicron webbie for a doublecheck on ATAPI support.

I'm running a LG DVD burner from there and a Plextor from the intel one. Make sure the JMicron is set to defaults in bios.

[MacClipper]

I'm running a LG DVD burner from there and a Plextor from the intel one. Make sure the JMicron is set to defaults in bios.

hey thanks, just found that the Asus manual is wrong and it does support ATAPI quite well actually even at 18x,

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=1495824&postcount=1

Yoohoo, saved meself some money and some effort getting the card... :D

[Khaotic]

Question for owners. Is the IDE port on this board a native port to the Intel chipset or an Asus glue-on? I don't have SATA opticals and i'm not having luck with my Adapters on a Gigabyte S3.

[MacClipper]

The mobo has a native ICH7R PATA port and this add-on JMicron PATA port so that makes it possible to add 4 PATA ATAPI devices altogether. I had feared that switching to this mobo from my P4C800-E Dlx would force me to get a PCI IDE card to support my burners.

[lawrywild]

The mobo has a native ICH7R PATA port and this add-on JMicron PATA port so that makes it possible to add 4 PATA ATAPI devices altogether. I had feared that switching to this mobo from my P4C800-E Dlx would force me to get a PCI IDE card to support my burners.

You have 4 optical drives? :eek:

[MacClipper]

erm, most ODD fanatics, like CDFreaks guys, have more than that. 4 is the number I install at one time on my main PC cos that's all most mobos can take with their onboard channels.

Yes, I have way more than just 4 burners in my drive collection but exactly 0 SATA models at the present moment. Thanks for asking.

hee hee.

[[G.N.U.]Fragman]

hitting a wall of instability....weird.

up to FSB 370 ....no issues at all everything behaves as i thought it would...cpu is able to run stable at 1,45..perhaps even less..

over 370...impossible to get stable for bf2...prime and folding stable at ekstreme settings actually...but not battlefield 2..strange.

i have tried up to 1,575vcore at 400FSb...1:1 and 4:5 doesnt make much difference, and that vcore is just too much i think..but temps are not bad...below 65c with prime and folding running...

vmch at 1,65 vdimm at 2,2v hyperpath3 disabled and spd timings..but nothing helps :( ..370 and below...everything top notch...above that there is a chinese wall of instability..lots of voltage helps but not enough...and that much voltage on air doesnt seem safe 24/7...i think it is a problem with chipset or something... bios 903 btw.

[hot_fifty]

maybe try pencil mod your chipset... maybe to 1,75 and see if it performs better... just keep a lownoise 120mm overit, which I think you already have

[Plaicd]

Why do you need to raise the mch voltage on this board to hit 400fsb?

Intel badaxe can run 400fsb on default mch voltage so can the new i975board asus is coming out with p5wdg2-ws Pro or something.

Is it because of poor design or something else?

[BulldogPO]

Fix to network disconnects is new driver for Marvel Yukon NIC:
http://www.marvell.com/drivers/driverDisplay.do?dId=116&pId=3

[[G.N.U.]Fragman]

thx bulldogpo...that helped a lot...

will make a new pic on how my airflow actually is tomorrow...uses that little asus cooler from board to cool SB directly...and the air from my xp120 cools heatpipe cooler and NB block ...and 2*80mm blows air inside the case upon the cpu cooler and from the hdd a 120mm is ducted to blow at ram and cpu cooler too.

[DEVIL_DK]

i think its sad that all boards fore this conroe cpu have big problems.

i normaly say its impossibel to fuc.... up an intel board whit intel chipset.
this time i think maby the new nforce 590 intel version cant even be this bad.

can only hope asus make a mirackel bios that fix all problems.

sorry for my bad english :)

[[XC] hipno650]

bsicly with my new x6800 I can boot at 333x10 3337MHZ without issue memory 999MHZ 5,5,5,15 2.15V, but when I set it to 352x10 3520MHZ memory 9xxMHZ 5,5,5,15 2.15V and core at 1.475 whenever I reboot (not cold boot) I get a warning saying that it could not load the CPU or Memory voltage overclocks, but if I enter bios (F1 as its an error) save and let it restart everything is fine. I'm on the version 901 bios any ideas?

ERIC


not sure if this was said but that happens on my p5n32 sli deluxe when the power is turned of or unpluged with my old psu and i just reboted and it booted up just fine try rebooting at that screen.

[lawrywild]

i think its sad that all boards fore this conroe cpu have big problems.

i normaly say its impossibel to fuc.... up an intel board whit intel chipset.
this time i think maby the new nforce 590 intel version cant even be this bad.

can only hope asus make a mirackel bios that fix all problems.

sorry for my bad english :)

It wouldn't be a miracle, they'd just be doing their job :rolleyes:

[GoldenTiger]

About pencil mods ... whats more voltage i will get on NB after this mod? Anyone tried it?


Question... the VR-Zone link says to go down about 20ohms at a time, but if you're just making a line as shown in the red, how would you only do a certain amount of resistance with the exact same line?

P.S. Great compilation thread :D!

[Rol-Co]

issue here:
no boot/screen above 1,9v vmch with pci-e installed, pc boot up in the background, but no screen
remmedy:
boot @1.86v and raise the voltage when at windows.

with pci card boot up til 2.2v :D


1:1 maximum is 480-485 depent's on the memory-memory voltage

most of the corsair memory 8000ul /6400 c5 (fatty) can't reach the fabr spec on the asus @ 2.4v
g.skill got no probs to reach 534 @ 1:2 divider

[Shrekogre]

My problems with this board

420 fsb max i could go
i tried pencil and increase vmch about 0.2 i coud prime at 450.
clockgen up to 470 not stable

Rams stuck at 920 or so cl4 and cl5 is the same.
I'm using kingston valuerams with micron d9gct.

anyone can help?

[MacClipper]

Found a new bug in 0801 (and 0701 too), it keeps the drives hooked to the JMicron port in PIO mode (at least, it does for my PATA DVD burners), UDMA is enabled with 0903 .

Any wanna confirm this?

[goatboy]

I'm having a problem with high system temps. I replaced the factory paste, am using the ASUS supplied fan for the South, and it's still gets up to the high 40's. This MB temp reading is freaking me out. Just ordered a Swiftech heatsink and fan for the North.

I do know that the head for the Prommy gets very warm(on the case window side, which is normal. CPU temp is -45 C.). I've read in another forum that they think the system temp gets read from somewhere around the Southbridge. Could the Prommy head be giving me false MB reads? Or does this board run hot for everyone?

[rick_fx]

Fragman']hitting a wall of instability....weird.

up to FSB 370 ....no issues at all everything behaves as i thought it would...cpu is able to run stable at 1,45..perhaps even less..

vmch at 1,65 vdimm at 2,2v hyperpath3 disabled and spd timings..but nothing helps :( ..370 and below...everything top notch...above that there is a chinese wall of instability..lots of voltage helps but not enough...and that much voltage on air doesnt seem safe 24/7...i think it is a problem with chipset or something... bios 903 btw.

I have the same problem as you (although bios 701) . I cant boot into Windows with anything higher than 370 fsb :confused:

Let me know if you find a solution to this problem :)

[xpsentity]

I'm having a problem with high system temps. I replaced the factory paste, am using the ASUS supplied fan for the South, and it's still gets up to the high 40's. This MB temp reading is freaking me out. Just ordered a Swiftech heatsink and fan for the North.

I do know that the head for the Prommy gets very warm(on the case window side, which is normal. CPU temp is -45 C.). I've read in another forum that they think the system temp gets read from somewhere around the Southbridge. Could the Prommy head be giving me false MB reads? Or does this board run hot for everyone?

Mine sat at 52-53 (Ambient is 80F) all the time, I redid my airflow, pulled the covers off the sinks, it idles/loads at 46-49 dependent only on ambient. CPU sits at 30 idle, 45~ load, so.. yeah.

It's not a NB measurement, I've got a fan on it and it's cool to the touch. Or it's a totally f'ed up NB read.

I don't worry about it anymore, I've tried and tried to find the "omg it burns" spot, no luck :D

[alpha0ne]

To makes things a little simpler I have drawn up this form for users to list their settings for troubleshooting purposes, use it if you want :)

ASUS P5WDH Dlx Overclock Settings

CPU :
DDR2 :
Bios :
VGA :
HDD :
PSU :
OS :
OVERCLOCK (MHz) =

BIOS SETTINGS

JumperFree Configuration

AI Overclocking set to MANUAL

CPU Frequency :
DRAMM Frequency :

Performance Mode :
PCI Express Frequency :
PCI Clock Sync Mode :

Memory Voltage :
CPU Vcore Voltage :
FSB Termination V :
MCH Chipset V :
ICH Chipset V :
--------------------------------------------------------

CPU Configuration

Microcode Update :
Max CPUID Value Limit :
Execute Disable Function :
CPU Internal Thermal Control :
Virtualization Technology :
Intel SpeedStep Technology :
--------------------------------------------------------

Advanced Chipset Settings (DDR2)

Configure DRAM Timing By SPD : Set to MANUAL
DRAM CAS Latency :
DRAM RAS Precharge :
DRAM RAS To CAS Delay :
DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge Delay :
DRAM Write Recovery Time :

Hyper Path 3 :
DRAM Throttling :

[RangerXLT8]

E6400 @ 3.2ghz
P5W DH 400FSB
Mushkin xP 6400 DDR2-800 1:1

CPU Vcore Voltage : 1.375
Memory Voltage : 2.1
FSB Termination V : Auto
MCH Chipset V : 1.65
ICH Chipset V : 1.05

My board will not run 417MHz stable. And it's not the CPU holding back, it's the MB!

[Mr.X]

Mine sat at 52-53 (Ambient is 80F) all the time, I redid my airflow, pulled the covers off the sinks, it idles/loads at 46-49 dependent only on ambient. CPU sits at 30 idle, 45~ load, so.. yeah.

It's not a NB measurement, I've got a fan on it and it's cool to the touch. Or it's a totally f'ed up NB read.

I don't worry about it anymore, I've tried and tried to find the "omg it burns" spot, no luck :D

MB temp= SB temp. I'm going to place two 40mm fans on both the NB and the SB to reduce the heat.

[OBR]

ASUS P5WDH Dlx Overclock Settings

CPU : E6600 retail B2
DDR2 : Corsair 2x1Gb 8500C5
Bios : 903
VGA : X1900 Crossfire
HDD : 2x Raptors
PSU : Enermax 620W
OS : WinXp pro sp2
OVERCLOCK (MHz) = 3.6Ghz

BIOS SETTINGS

JumperFree Configuration

AI Overclocking set to MANUAL

CPU Frequency : 400
DRAMM Frequency : 800

Performance Mode : Turbo
PCI Express Frequency : 101
PCI Clock Sync Mode :33.33

Memory Voltage :2.3V
CPU Vcore Voltage :1.575V
FSB Termination V :1.3V
MCH Chipset V :1.6V
ICH Chipset V : Auto
--------------------------------------------------------

CPU Configuration

Microcode Update : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Dis
Execute Disable Function : Dis
CPU Internal Thermal Control : Dis
Virtualization Technology : Dis
Intel SpeedStep Technology : Dis
--------------------------------------------------------

Advanced Chipset Settings (DDR2)

Configure DRAM Timing By SPD : Set to MANUAL
DRAM CAS Latency :3
DRAM RAS Precharge :3
DRAM RAS To CAS Delay :3
DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge Delay :8
DRAM Write Recovery Time :3

Hyper Path 3 : Dis
DRAM Throttling : Dis

This setting is super prime stable ..., i can run system at 420MHz FSB but Prime fail after 2 hours but in games and in all benchmarks is this frequency (3.8Ghz) stable.

[BulldogPO]

I have Antec Super Lanboy an I need to figure out best way to make tohse case fans to blow.
First I inverted back fan to blow into case and that cooled NB a little, then I added 40mm fan to top of NB, this did help also.
I´m using Scythe Ninja+ with 120mm fan and I´ll think that I have to turn this fan also cos lastnight I did turn frontfan of Lanboy to blow out of the case.
CPU is still too hot.

[Rol-Co]

ASUS P5WDH Dlx Overclock Settings

This setting is super prime stable ..., i can run system at 420MHz FSB but Prime fail after 2 hours but in games and in all benchmarks is this frequency (3.8Ghz) stable.

try this@default highest divider
ASUS P5WDH Dlx Overclock Settings

CPU : E6600 retail B2
DDR2 : Corsair 2x1Gb 8500C5
Bios : 903
VGA : X1900 Crossfire
HDD : 2x Raptors
PSU : Enermax 620W
OS : WinXp pro sp2
OVERCLOCK (MHz) = 3.6Ghz

BIOS SETTINGS

JumperFree Configuration

AI Overclocking set to MANUAL

CPU Frequency : 267
DRAMM Frequency : 1034

Performance Mode : Turbo
PCI Express Frequency : 101
PCI Clock Sync Mode :33.33

Memory Voltage :2.4V
CPU Vcore Voltage :1.575V
FSB Termination V :auto
MCH Chipset V :1.65V
ICH Chipset V : Auto

Configure DRAM Timing By SPD : Set to MANUAL
DRAM CAS Latency :4
DRAM RAS Precharge :4
DRAM RAS To CAS Delay :4
DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge Delay :8
DRAM Write Recovery Time :4 or 5

Hyper Path 3 : Dis
DRAM Throttling : enable

maybe it work for you, but think you need more vdimm

[lkraven]

Odd issue to report, with no solution.

Keyboard connected via a USB Hub. When system is shut down pressing the keyboard starts the PC. PS2 Keyboard startup is disabled in bios. This is very anoying.

Bios 903

On the back panel of the MB, two of the USB ports will wake up the machine. These are the ports that the remote control sensor is supposed to go into.

If you have your USB hub plugged into one of those two ports, anything attached could wake the machine or prevent it from going into standby.

Try moving the USB hub to the other two ports in the back, or use the USB ports provided from the headers on the MB.

[barrymaldon]

I'm thinking of getting this board for my E6600 conroe as the MSI does not look as good as i had hoped. My question is will my OCZ 6400 4-5-4-4-15 plat ram boot from stock with this board or will i need to spend more money and get another stick of cheap ddr2?

[GoldenTiger]

Found a new bug in 0801 (and 0701 too), it keeps the drives hooked to the JMicron port in PIO mode (at least, it does for my PATA DVD burners), UDMA is enabled with 0903 .

Any wanna confirm this?


Which port is the Jmicron one (black beneath the bottom PCI slot, or blue near the RAM)?

[DEVIL_DK]

my idle temp are odd too

my cpu is 24º
mb is 44º
cpu has h2o cooling
i use the asus fan for mosfeds

[MacClipper]

Which port is the Jmicron one (black beneath the bottom PCI slot, or blue near the RAM)?
the one below the PCI slot, with 0903 it works quite well, was able to flash new burner firmware and do successful 18x burns,
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=189057

[Pedro Rocha]

Sticky - very helpfull and organized Problems & Fixes Thread

Please keep 1st post updated lawrywild :)

[LUCI5R]

I've been experiencing low internet speeds. I have a second computer connected to the same modem. Download speeds on that second computer, which is really, really old, have been awesome and much, much higher then my new system.

Out of the two Ethernet ports available, I need to use only one to connect to my cable modem.... does it make any difference which one i should use? Is there anything that could be affecting my Internet Speeds?

Thanks.

[Mykou]

My internet connection runs flawless with the ethernet port below

[LUCI5R]

My internet connection runs flawless with the ethernet port below

You mean the colored one? The one which is with the USB port that you have to connect the remote to? I have my ethernet cable connected to the port on top... the one closer to Audio Ports, not the one below... maybe i should switch.

Also... i'm using the drivers that came on the CD for the Ethernet Ports... are there any newer drivers i should be installing?

[Mykou]

yes this one near the usb where asus say to plug the remote receiver

I used Cd drivers , haven't check if new ones released

[LUCI5R]

the one below the PCI slot, with 0903 it works quite well, was able to flash new burner firmware and do successful 18x burns,
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=189057

I have an old Maxtor 41GB IDE, and 2 DVD Burners (Pioneer DVR-111D & Optorite). Should i connect the two DVD Burners to the JMicron Port and the Maxtor IDE to the Intel IDE Controller? My Pioneer DVR-111D is capable of burning 16X DVDs... will i be able to do that connected to the JMicron Controller? I know the Manual is wrong where it said that JMicron Controller doesn't support ATAPI... still i connected my IDE To JMicron and DVD Burners to Intel Controller for the fear that JMicron may not work properly with Burners.

[LUCI5R]

Thanks! I'll switch today and see if that makes a difference.

yes this one near the usb where asus say to plug the remote receiver

I used Cd drivers , haven't check if new ones released

[maukka]

Found a new bug in 0801 (and 0701 too), it keeps the drives hooked to the JMicron port in PIO mode (at least, it does for my PATA DVD burners), UDMA is enabled with 0903.

Enabling the SATA/RAID bootrom for the JMicron controller from BIOS (801 & 901) fixed this for me. Just like your dvd drive my Hitachi PATA hd showed up in PIO mode under device manager.

For me, AIBooster doesn't make any changes on the fly with either of the 90x bioses. 801 works fine though.

[chefnr1]

wich bios is recomended to my rig??
x6800
P5WDH DL
EXTREEM PC2-6400
X1900XTX soon to be CF
Silverstone Zeus 850W

[lawrywild]

Sticky - very helpfull and organized Problems & Fixes Thread

Please keep 1st post updated lawrywild :)

TYVM Pedro, will do :)

[RickCain]

Anyone sucessfully running crossfire with this board? I might pull the trigger this weekend but have not seen anyone saying they run crossfire.

[Tallman]

If anyone is interested, there is a link to a modded bios for P5W DH in http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=106563


AFAIK, it increases vmch selections

Use at your own risk!

[MacClipper]

Enabling the SATA/RAID bootrom for the JMicron controller from BIOS (801 & 901) fixed this for me. Just like your dvd drive my Hitachi PATA hd showed up in PIO mode under device manager.

For me, AIBooster doesn't make any changes on the fly with either of the 90x bioses. 801 works fine though.
Boot ROM was always left enabled but no go for UDMA on PATA ATAPI devices. zevia of CDFreaks also reported he did not have any UDMA trouble with his SATA Plextor DVD burner (ie. a SATA ATAPI device) with earlier BIOS like 0701. Unlike harddisks as in your IBM IDE, ATAPI support seems a afterthought to many manufacturers of drive controllers eg. Promise.

@mickey - leave your burners at the Intel controllers for best compatibility, I'm still testing how good the JMIcron is for ATAPI stuff since it is so new esp. to me. btw, if you are adventurous, go crossflash the 111D to 111L for a much better feature set, see CDFreaks for more info.

[xpsentity]

Any ideas on why SPD needs to be enabled over 360~ or so?

I had (2) problems:

1) Was not getting a restart after changing bios settings around 350~ FSB. It would sit at a black screen powered on. I still get this sometimes, but SPD seems to have "fixed" it so it actually reposts, just doesn't restart. But sometimes it does.

Even if I just change FSB, it sometimes does, sometimes not.

2) With manual timings at 1:1 354, 355, 356 (Wouldn't post past 356), Orthos/Sp/Prime would just freeze my pc. The strangest part is, no sounds, fans, or lights would change, but my mouse would turn off.

I tried using an old mouse and disabling USB legacy, etc, no change.

_______________________

All that said, I'm at 3.33, 1:1, (Stable), 1.4V Bios, Auto on all other voltages. Idle at 28-30, load at 44.

^^Not bad.

[kidstechno]

I really hope they can fix AIBooster, it's always showing as 163fsb (at 175 w/ PD805) and sometimes does the 255c temperature, as well as Asus Probe :( And I have to reset the computer if I wanna do on the fly voltage/fsb changes.

[goatboy]

Anyone sucessfully running crossfire with this board? I might pull the trigger this weekend but have not seen anyone saying they run crossfire.

I'm running it with no problems. Even after the two cards are installed, I still have room for my sound card and there is still one PCI Express slot available.

[Primoz78]

The AI booster think is really annoying...anyone with Gskill PC6400 HZ D9 chips can run them any other divider than 1:1?...Cause mine is working only 1:1 any other dividier reboot or not even boot into bios...

Regards,
Primoz

[Plaicd]

I really hope they can fix AIBooster, it's always showing as 163fsb (at 175 w/ PD805) and sometimes does the 255c temperature, as well as Asus Probe :( And I have to reset the computer if I wanna do on the fly voltage/fsb changes.

Did you try the newest version of the AIBooster posted about half way down on this page?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=106563&page=9

[OBR]

Did you anyone tried MODDED BIOS? With 1.85V NB option? Is it working?

[Mykou]

The AI booster think is really annoying...anyone with Gskill PC6400 HZ D9 chips can run them any other divider than 1:1?...Cause mine is working only 1:1 any other dividier reboot or not even boot into bios...

Regards,
Primoz

Mine actually run at 4:5 and rig stable at 3.43 ghz

Now testing 3.6 ghz Superpi 32 stable , have to run prime

[Primoz78]

Mine actually run at 4:5 and rig stable at 3.43 ghz

Now testing 3.6 ghz Superpi 32 stable , have to run prime

Can you give me the exact BIOS settings you are using?...you have an E6400 as I can see..? I will try to rise the VCORE today to get it stable at 400FSB so I can hold them on 800mhz....:cool:

Regards,
Primoz

[zerocode]

Mine actually run at 4:5 and rig stable at 3.43 ghz

Now testing 3.6 ghz Superpi 32 stable , have to run prime


Dude can you post you bios settings? My gear is arriving tomorrow, same stuff only corsair mem instead of G.Skill :)

I would really appriciate it! Thanx

[Mykou]

Yep I have E6400 and E6700 ( actually running it )

My bios settings if could help you E6700@3.43 ghz

-FSb 343 mhz
-Vcore 1.4375 ( in bios 701 )
-Vdimm 2.2v
-Vfsb, Vich and Vmch auto
-PCI-e 105 mhz
-Path 3 disabled
-Ram throttle auto
-only microcode enabled ( C2T,EIST,Virtualisation all OFF )
-PEg heavier
-Ram settings manual at 858 mhz ( so 4:5 ) if I well remember ( cas 4 /4/3/12

I can now boot at 3.6 ghz ( 360 x 10 )under xp but not prime stable just superpi 32 and good score under aquamark 03 ( 20272 cpu score , I did compare to PcCI2iminal when he benched @3.6 ghz but 1:1 ratio and score about 19000 so I may think that running 4:5 is sweet too :D , P5W is very mem divider sensitive IMO though I met issues at 1:1 lol and others can't run it at 4:5 :confused: )

Could run E6400 at 3.1 ghz ( 375 x 8 ) stable

Think I have to go for WC if I want more and stable :)

But 3.43 ghz is a good deal IMO since I 'm still with air cooling

Hope it helps you :)


Edit: have to update my sig ;)

[M.Beier]

One question from meeee :)

Am I the only one that cant get the board booted by pressing "power-on" on the remote??
Thing is.... I run the gear openair untill Im over with testing it - and thereby has no power-on button, but use a shrewdriver to boot..

[Onepagebook]

if you experience post lock up during detecting IDE devices, reset and put some USB storage OR change SATA HD to other socket

[lawrywild]

One question from meeee :)

Am I the only one that cant get the board booted by pressing "power-on" on the remote??
Thing is.... I run the gear openair untill Im over with testing it - and thereby has no power-on button, but use a shrewdriver to boot..

You must enable "Power on after Power off" option in the dh remote control panel in windows ;)

also the receiver must be in ports 3 or 4, the ones that came with a sticker over them.

[M.Beier]

You must enable "Power on after Power off" option in the dh remote control panel in windows ;)

also the receiver must be in ports 3 or 4, the ones that came with a sticker over them.

"Power on after power loss" ?

Oh another bad bad issue... - WHen not using CPU fan... That noisebutton, it'll cause system freeze.. :|

[MacClipper]

New 0903 'S3 resume' bug?

The BIOS fails to re-initialise the JMicron controller properly upon resume from S3 sleep causing the system to freeze periodically as it tries to reload the controller/devices attached to the JMicron.

Event viewer reports controller error or controller not ready error and "devices disappeared from the system without first being prepared for removal" error from Plug and Play Manager.

[lawrywild]

"Power on after power loss" ?

Oh another bad bad issue... - WHen not using CPU fan... That noisebutton, it'll cause system freeze.. :|

Yeh, that's the one..

Hmm i don't use a cpu fan connected to the motherboard and the button doesnt freeze anything, it just doesn't do anything..

[M.Beier]

Yeh, that's the one..

Hmm i don't use a cpu fan connected to the motherboard and the button doesnt freeze anything, it just doesn't do anything..

Hmm, might be due some disabled functions in bios then :) - Pretty much disabled most of HW-monitor section..

But thx =)
I just have to try that power-up stuff :D

[Primoz78]

Also when not using CPU fan it always giving you a "CPU fan error" before booting...BIOS 1011

Regards,
Primoz

[Shrekogre]

Also when not using CPU fan it always giving you a "CPU fan error" before booting...BIOS 1011

Regards,
Primoz

put cpu fan to ignore on hardware monitor in bios

[lawrywild]

put cpu fan to ignore on hardware monitor in bios

took the words straight out of my mouth

[Mykou]

@primoz78 and zerocode

update with 375 fsb 1.56 vcore in bios and Vmch 1.65 v unmodded and still air cooling ( others settings the same I gave you ) but still 4:5 ;)


http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/1381/good2qr9.jpg

I 've not test prime but I guess I have errors

[Primoz78]

put cpu fan to ignore on hardware monitor in bios

Already done it...still the same problem :cool:

Regards,
Primoz

[M.Beier]

took the words straight out of my mouth

I've just chosen "ignore" in bios, that killed the warning :)

[M.Beier]

Already done it...still the same problem :cool:

Regards,
Primoz

THen you must have one of the other fan-control functions enabled..

[maukka]

Boot ROM was always left enabled but no go for UDMA on PATA ATAPI devices.

Well, after all, it does state in the manual (page 2-31) that the JMicron IDE connector does not support ATAPI devices at all :)

[M3kk]

Did you anyone tried MODDED BIOS? With 1.85V NB option? Is it working?

Just flashed now, but... The 1.65 is the max selectable v in bios for NB .. :/

[lawrywild]

Just flashed now, but... The 1.65 is the max selectable v in bios for NB .. :/

Did you..

Flash with afudos- afudos /i***.rom /pbnc /n

then clear cmos properly, i.e. take out battery, change jumper for 1 min, replace battery and power on?

[Primoz78]

THen you must have one of the other fan-control functions enabled..

Have checked it twice...:confused: Will check it again and hope it help cause is annoying...every boot up have to push F1 to go into windows...

Regards,
Primoz

[M3kk]

Did you..

Flash with afudos- afudos /i***.rom /pbnc /n

then clear cmos properly, i.e. take out battery, change jumper for 1 min, replace battery and power on?

Tried, but nothing :) The max is 1.65v :P

[LUCI5R]

@mickey - leave your burners at the Intel controllers for best compatibility, I'm still testing how good the JMIcron is for ATAPI stuff since it is so new esp. to me. btw, if you are adventurous, go crossflash the 111D to 111L for a much better feature set, see CDFreaks for more info.

Thanks! Yeah, i was thinking about leaving the IDE at JMicron and my Burners with Intel Controller for now, untill things are more prominently stable and proven.

I'm gonna look into the crossflash of 111D - 111L at CDFreaks. Adventurous, I Am. ;) :)

:toast:
Mickey

[DEVIL_DK]

another problem if i oc then reboot alle is ok.
if i from windows power down or reboot it
restore to normal sppe and say oc fail LOL
nice i hope nvidia nforce 590 intel ver comes soon.

[catscit]

this problem:

Keyboard connected via a USB Hub. When system is shut down pressing the keyboard starts the PC. - No fix as of yet, Disabled PS2 Keyboard Startup does nothing to stop this.

i had something alike with my razor copperhead.
unplugging or striking a mousbutton started the pc.
Solved it by flashing from 0701 to 0903 bios.

[MacClipper]

Well, after all, it does state in the manual (page 2-31) that the JMicron IDE connector does not support ATAPI devices at all :)
Well, it would be nice (& polite) to read this whole thread regarding this issue. Pls read from post at no. 70 onwards before commenting more.

Cheers.

[DjLeco]

ASUS will be realise sometimes a BUG FREE BIOS for this MB or I will F*** their ingineers...:slapass:
Is the 7-th bios in an month and STILL a lot of troubles.
I'm thinking to sell that jerk of MB and buy Biostar TForce 965P:woot:

[alpha0ne]

wich bios is recomended to my rig??
x6800
P5WDH DL
EXTREEM PC2-6400
X1900XTX soon to be CF
Silverstone Zeus 850W

I think 801 is still the best ATM, the others have too many bugs, GL :)

[alpha0ne]

ASUS will be realise sometimes a BUG FREE BIOS for this MB or I will F*** their ingineers...:slapass:
Is the 7-th bios in an month and STILL a lot of troubles.
I'm thinking to sell that jerk of MB and buy Biostar TForce 965P:woot:

Same here if I could even buy one in AU

Look at my sig, why do you think I have an Anus board :eek: :rolleyes:

[[G.N.U.]Fragman]

MB temp= SB temp. I'm going to place two 40mm fans on both the NB and the SB to reduce the heat.


i took the small fan that went with the mobo and put it onto the SB...after taking that sticker off....it fits right in top of it...on 5v i cant hear it either...perhaps there is not rrom for it in cf/sli...

[Eastcoasthandle]

interesting

[Shpoon]

Hey, quick question; is there anyway to get a bios chip before I buy the board? The email contact us thing doesn't work because it requires S/N, etc. and I sure as hell arn't calling long distance from Toronto :/

[mion]

Is there vdroop for that board?

[xpsentity]

Hey, quick question; is there anyway to get a bios chip before I buy the board? The email contact us thing doesn't work because it requires S/N, etc. and I sure as hell arn't calling long distance from Toronto :/

Maybe easier to buy the cheapest, crappiest 775 Celeron there is then, for flashing.

[ruler22]

i called them up, and got a BIOS chip sent out to me and I dont have the mobo, I called the mobo department, asked for the BIOS division. told her that I bought the board recently, and heard i needed an updated bios revision for it to work for core 2 duo. Gave her my info and then that was all.

But a guy told me yesterday the dept is only open from like 8am-5pm EST.

[Shpoon]

i called them up, and got a BIOS chip sent out to me and I dont have the mobo, I called the mobo department, asked for the BIOS division. told her that I bought the board recently, and heard i needed an updated bios revision for it to work for core 2 duo. Gave her my info and then that was all.

But a guy told me yesterday the dept is only open from like 8am-5pm EST.

Want to call for me and get them to ship to my address? :p

[theoryzero]

Can you disable the Wi-fi in the BIOS or do I need to remove the card? Can't find a BIOS setting to enable/disable.

Hmm, at least for me if I set the USB Function field from 8 ports to 6 ports I stopped getting bugged to install the Wi-fi drivers when I get in to Windows. Can anyone else confirm?

[Grendel66]

Hmm, at least for me if I set the USB Function field from 8 ports to 6 ports I stopped getting bugged to install the Wi-fi drivers when I get in to Windows. Can anyone else confirm?
Just pull the card. Or, if you don't want to, disable it in the Device Manager. That way you retain 8 USB ports.. :para:

[Phatriff]

Got my board today. Just 2 problems. Obviously slow POST but also the Intel PATA controller is behaving strangely.

I can't get the BIOS to recognise my harddisk and my optical drive at the same time.

So far i have tried all combinations of master, slave, cable select, one drive, both drives etc no luck. I have also started to look at the bios trying out the Enhanced PATA+SATA IDE mode. no luck

Things i still havn't tried are removing my other 2 sata drives. enabling ACHI mode and IDE combined mode. Will try these soon.

Any other ideas?

Edit: have now tried ACHI, and ide combined modes. Still no joy

[xpsentity]

Has anyone come up with anything regarding the SPD @ 360~+ FSB?

I worked this thing for HOURS trying to get manual timings @ 380, no luck whatsoever. Just blackscreen, no restart. :mad:

[Omarko]

can someone help me with this board and my problem ? see pic:


http://imagestore.ugbox.net/thumb/error_462c0c3921606d92e779fa2564.jpg (http://imagestore.ugbox.net/aview/error_462c0c3921606d92e779fa2564)
Click to view full-sized image! (http://imagestore.ugbox.net/aview/error_462c0c3921606d92e779fa2564)

whenever I try to remove and of the conflicting items, the PC freezes, this same thing comes up even when I disable it in BIOS.

[xpsentity]

Maybe you have a usb hub connected to the Firewire on the mobo by accident.

[Plaicd]

Has anyone come up with anything regarding the SPD @ 360~+ FSB?

I worked this thing for HOURS trying to get manual timings @ 380, no luck whatsoever. Just blackscreen, no restart. :mad:

At 375fsb I can run manual ok except when I set memory to 1000 in bios.
935 works fine and so does 1125 but 1000 causes no boot.

Might be related.

[Captainmilo]

Obviously slow POST

Have you updated to bios version 903 or 1101?
POST is a lot faster on those two than on previous versions

I also found out that depending on the SATA sockets you connect your hard drives , you get different POST times . The problem got worse when i manually configured one of my drives to be for example Disk 1 , so i could boot into my windows , while bios had it configured as Disk 3

Swapping / changing the SATA connectors of my HDs solved the problem

[chefnr1]

I think 801 is still the best ATM, the others have too many bugs, GL :)
ok thanks will try that bios :stick:

[Mykou]

bios 1101 seems ok for me

Actually testing E6700@3.5 ghz

[hot_fifty]

please be back and tell if it is more stable and if you can oc more, my cpu E6600 tray, wont do dual SP2004 Small FFT´s stable at 370FSB, but 370FSB is benchmark stable, all 3dmarks superpi32m and so on...

[Shrekogre]

please be back and tell if it is more stable and if you can oc more, my cpu E6600 tray, wont do dual SP2004 Small FFT´s stable at 370FSB, but 370FSB is benchmark stable, all 3dmarks superpi32m and so on...


could be cpu. my 6600 can do 389x9 benchable but when i put a 6300 in, i could do 420x7 and 460x7 with pencil mod on vmch

[selder]

When I shut down my XP, it restarts my computer, is this that "coldbug" i'm reading about? How can this be by design?!

[Phatriff]

Have you updated to bios version 903 or 1101?
POST is a lot faster on those two than on previous versions

I also found out that depending on the SATA sockets you connect your hard drives , you get different POST times . The problem got worse when i manually configured one of my drives to be for example Disk 1 , so i could boot into my windows , while bios had it configured as Disk 3

Swapping / changing the SATA connectors of my HDs solved the problem
I tried various combinations of sata drives plugged in now and no difference. Tested with 0801 0901 0903. not tried 1101 yet.

Maybe i will have to fire up the jmicron :/

The slow boot doesn't bother me too much since i rarely turn my pc off or restart it. I have noticed the blue line on the windows startup screen cycles a dozen times before lauching tho

[selder]

Intel Core 2 chips don't have a cold bug. That is a motherboard or windows problem.

EDIT - Plus your system has to be EXTREMELY cold (like -50C or less) to even qualify for a cold bug. According to your sig specs you have no extreme cooling, just a HSF.

Ah, the problem I'm havind isn't called a "coldbug" ?

Strange. I'm going to reinstall XP (because it's rather old .. it's the same install since my P5WD2, P5WD2-E and now P5W DH :p )

[Durzel]

I'm currently dual Prime stable at 3.6Ghz (360x10) at 1.4250v (probably 1.38v actual according to PC Probe), specs in sig and stablity pic here (http://www.superficial.net/miscstuff/conroe3.jpg)

The only thing I've changed is disabling HyperPath 3, RAM throttling and EIST. All other frequencies or voltages besides the vCore. RAM timings are set as 4-4-4-12 which are the rated specs, the timings are NOT currently on SPD.

I tried moving up to 3.8Ghz by increasing the FSB to 380 and raising vCore, but even cranking it up to 1.520v ORTHOS crashes out after a few seconds.

Changing the RAM to SPD, vMCH to 1.6v, vDimm to 2.1v (max RAM is rated for I think) and vFSB to 1.4v made no difference at all. I haven't noticed any increase or decrease in stability from changing ANY other settings other than vCore. Memory is rated for at least 400 FSB so I don't think it's that which is causing the problem.

How can I know when I've hit an FSB wall on the motherboard, if none of the other settings (vMCH, vFSB, etc) seem to make any difference? Am I gonna have to stick this under my Vapo to know how much further it will go?

PC Probe warned me about the load temp when I started ORTHOS - which touched 62 degrees, so I'm reluctant to push the vCore much further on air cooling (Arctic Freezer 7 Pro, with the standard thermal pad attached).

Would appreciate any help anyone could give me....

[lawrywild]

I'm currently dual Prime stable at 3.6Ghz (360x10) at 1.4250v (probably 1.38v actual according to PC Probe), specs in sig and stablity pic here (http://www.superficial.net/miscstuff/conroe3.jpg)

The only thing I've changed is disabling HyperPath 3, RAM throttling and EIST. All other frequencies or voltages besides the vCore. RAM timings are set as 4-4-4-12 which are the rated specs, the timings are NOT currently on SPD.

I tried moving up to 3.8Ghz by increasing the FSB to 380 and raising vCore, but even cranking it up to 1.520v ORTHOS crashes out after a few seconds.

Changing the RAM to SPD, vMCH to 1.6v, vDimm to 2.1v (max RAM is rated for I think) and vFSB to 1.4v made no difference at all. I haven't noticed any increase or decrease in stability from changing ANY other settings other than vCore.

How can I know when I've hit an FSB wall on the motherboard, if none of the other settings (vMCH, vFSB, etc) seem to make any difference?

PC Probe warned me about the load temp when I started ORTHOS - which touched 62 degrees, so I'm reluctant to push the vCore much further on air cooling (Arctic Freezer 7 Pro, with the standard thermal pad attached).

Would appreciate any help anyone could give me....

run coretemp not asus probe, that'll scare you even more by showing you the REAL temperature

[Durzel]

run coretemp not asus probe, that'll scare you even more by showing you the REAL temperatureOh dear. :(

[davefr]

ASUS P5WDH Dlx Overclock Settings

CPU : E6600 B-2 (OEM Wk 24)
DDR2 : 2G OCZ DDR2 800 Platinum
Bios : 903
OVERCLOCK (MHz) = 3.41 (prime stable)

BIOS SETTINGS

JumperFree Configuration

AI Overclocking set to MANUAL

CPU Frequency : 378
DRAMM Frequency : 756

PCI Express Frequency : 101
PCI Clock Sync Mode : 33

Memory Voltage : Auto
CPU Vcore Voltage : 1.5
FSB Termination V : Auto
MCH Chipset V : Auto
ICH Chipset V : Auto

All other BIOS setting are set to the common recommendations. (ie Hyperpath 3 disable, etc, etc)

I'm prime stable at these setting. However at 380 and 1.475 Vcore XP crashes. None of the other voltage settings seem to matter including MCH.

Even though I'm prime stable I think I'm pretty close to the upper limit and want a little more guardband. I'll probably back FSB down to 375.

Whats a good safe Vcore limit for everyday use? (aircooling w/Scythe Infinity). Do I have any room above 1.5 V as long as CPU temp remains <40?

[sparkie34]

Alright guys. I got a new problem here.

P5W with a E6600

Doesn't matter what the cpu is clocked at. Stock or overclocked, cpu usage on one of the cores is always 6-8%. Always. This is on a fresh windows install with no programs running at all.

In windows task manager under Processes it shows Idle process 99%

But cpu usage on the one core is 6-8%

Any cures for this or has anyone else noticed this.

[Fenixviper]

Alright guys. I got a new problem here.

P5W with a E6600

Doesn't matter what the cpu is clocked at. Stock or overclocked, cpu usage on one of the cores is always 6-8%. Always. This is on a fresh windows install with no programs running at all.

In windows task manager under Processes it shows Idle process 99%

But cpu usage on the one core is 6-8%

Any cures for this or has anyone else noticed this.

Click on the orange speaker beside the clock and disable dobly digital live. I had the same problem and its back to zero. Now I only turn it on when needed.

[kempez815]

Anyone trying to use a SATA drive to boot and having a RAID 0 array for gaming?

I have a single 160gb plugged into the Intel (red) SATA port. I then use the Asus SATA ports and follow instructions to set this to RAID 0 (set jumper, enable DH features)

I can get the drive to work and show fine as 76gb, but when I run a HD tach this is showing as 80mbps - VERY slow. I also tried using the Intel RAID controller but couldn't for the life of me figure out how to have a single SATA for boot and a RAID drive as a gaming drive only.

Any advice would be appreciated :)

EDIT: BIOS 1101

[Jimbo]

For some reason the Asus P5W DH decides to turn itself on now without me touching the power on button. It spins all fans up to top speed then turns itself off!

After that I can hit the power button and it will come on as normal. Is this a bug or is my board going mental?

Im not happy at all about the motherboard temps (54c), and when I touch the NB/SB they are hot to touch. I havent even overclocked or gamed yet.

[sparkie34]

Click on the orange speaker beside the clock and disable dobly digital live. I had the same problem and its back to zero. Now I only turn it on when needed.


You the man! Thanks a bunch. That was driving me insane.:toast:

[Jimbo]

run coretemp not asus probe, that'll scare you even more by showing you the REAL temperature

WTF I just ran core temp and it says core 1 - 51c and core 2 - 50 c. This cant be right surely?

[lawrywild]

WTF I just ran core temp and it says core 1 - 51c and core 2 - 50 c. This cant be right surely?

It is, they are temps taken from within the die itself

[Jimbo]

So is it normal to be so high? why is it so mental? I cant belive the temps on this board and cpu.

[Metroid]

So is it normal to be so high? why is it so mental? I cant belive the temps on this board and cpu.


I have seen in many threads stating that the P5W DH in comparison with the P5B Deluxe in heat, it won by a great advantage. P5B runs cooler for the other side P5W DH much hotter.

[BigDisk]

I have a problem with my brand new P5W-DH driving me crazy.


Seems like there is no way I can install the Firewire pilots correctly.
Have a look at my device manager it speaks for itself.

I tried with Firewire ENABLED and DISABLED in BIOS.
I tried uninstalling all of the devices in Device Manager and rebooting.. it just re-sets itself like that.

What can I do?

[Brahmzy]

Holy crap. I just read through this whole thread. There are a LOT of friggin' unfixed, open issues with this board. Mine gets here Monday. I'm gonna be friggin' pissed if I made a mistake. I shoulda just kept the DS3 I think.

I'm VERY worried. Ugh. I cannot return this board either - NewEgg says exchange for replacement only.

[xpsentity]

Holy crap. I just read through this whole thread. There are a LOT of friggin' unfixed, open issues with this board. Mine gets here Monday. I'm gonna be friggin' pissed if I made a mistake. I shoulda just kept the DS3 I think.

I'm VERY worried. Ugh. I cannot return this board either - NewEgg says exchange for replacement only.

Can always sell it, lots of people looking for them usually.

[mion]

Holy crap. I just read through this whole thread. There are a LOT of friggin' unfixed, open issues with this board. Mine gets here Monday. I'm gonna be friggin' pissed if I made a mistake. I shoulda just kept the DS3 I think.

I'm VERY worried. Ugh. I cannot return this board either - NewEgg says exchange for replacement only.
I ditched ds3 for asus p5w dh, gigabyte board seemed far worse than asus board. Though I am only running 805 while waiting for conroe.

[d.chatten]

When i go in to the bios and go to, Tools > Asus O.C. Profile > Start O.C. Profile, all i get is a blue screen if i have the JMicron boot rom is disabled, the only way to escape from this blue screen is to hit the reset button on the front of the tower, when the JMicron boot rom is enabled it all works as it should, this issue accurs with bios 0901, 0903 & 1101 and probably anything in between, has anyone else had this issue? if not could someone please test this to clarify.

Thanks!

[Plaicd]

Yes its a known issue and its because the profile is stored in part of the jmicron's rom.

[OBR]

99% of "Problems" posted here are not really bugs or somethings, BUT only total amateurism of users ... This thred is only chaotic bunch of stupidity ...not serious "Fixes thred"
I have no serious problem with this MoBo, my E6600 runs @430FSB, and i have RAID0, Firewire ... everything OK, only ONE problem i have - crappy memory dividers ...so far ...

[qujck]

for it is the same as for OBR.
I've bought a 6400 Step6 Rev. B2, now running @ 3000 MHz with 1,36 VCore, MDT 2GB kit PC6400, and everything seems good.
And i'm using the so called buggy BIOS version 0701 ( the board comes with it ).

[Mykou]

99% of "Problems" posted here are not really bugs or somethings, BUT only total amateurism of users ... This thred is only chaotic bunch of stupidity ...not serious "Fixes thred"
I have no serious problem with this MoBo, my E6600 runs @430FSB, and i have RAID0, Firewire ... everything OK, only ONE problem i have - crappy memory dividers ...so far ...

Did you try last bios 1101 ?

I can boot at 4:5 (4/4/3/12) ,1:1 and tested last night 2:3 ( DDR 800@1050 with 4-4-3-15 ) see

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1646158&postcount=60

and was very surprised as I couldn't do this last one before

4 boots w/o any pbs at the desktop

[Jimbo]

Guys i just took off the southbridge heatsink and it appears to not be making very good contact at ll with the chip. should i apply thicker amount of as5?

[simonmaltby]

Keyboard connected via a USB Hub. When system is shut down pressing the keyboard starts the PC. - No fix as of yet, Disabled PS2 Keyboard Startup does nothing to stop this.

Upadate
Bios 1101 does not cure
Any USB device on the far right USB slots (looking at the back of the mobo components upwards) will start the computer if activated. I even tried my printer and turning that off started the PC.

Temporary Fix (thanks to lkraven for the idea)
Move all USB devices to the other pair of USB slots or use the motherboard headers. This has been tested and works.

Real pain due to the number of devices i have, but at least it is a fix.

[Brahmzy]

Guys i just took off the southbridge heatsink and it appears to not be making very good contact at ll with the chip. should i apply thicker amount of as5?

The problem is the SB is concave. Only the tips of the corners will make contact with the HS. I ALWAYS lap my SB chips and will be doing it on my P5W DH Monday as soon as I get it. My DS3 SB kept very cool because of this.

LAP IT!

[fornowagain]

The problem is the SB is concave. Only the tips of the corners will make contact with the HS. I ALWAYS lap my SB chips and will be doing it on my P5W DH Monday as soon as I get it. My DS3 SB kept very cool because of this.

LAP IT!
The SB ICH is plastic encapsulated and not so flat. Also its not involved in the overclock so don't worry to much. The northbridge has foam padding to keep it square to the core, so that'll have to come off if you want to lap it.

[zbogorgon]

can anybody help me with vdroop ?
what resistence of 50k VR is best?

[matt1]

Sorted now :D

[Counter CS]

can anybody help me with vdroop ?
what resistence of 50k VR is best?
Where is the place to do it ?

[mion]

can anybody help me with vdroop ?
what resistence of 50k VR is best?
I don't know what I am doing right now anyways. I used intel 805 and played with resistance and didn't have much effect. Finally I decided to go with zero to see what happens. Zero gets vcore as close as possible to the one set in bios but that's for 805

[[G.N.U.]Fragman]

i dont understand why coretemp should be the right temp and not asus probe...it is the same probe they are measuring....just getting different results..and coretemp always insanely hihg....

[lawrywild]

Fragman']i dont understand why coretemp should be the right temp and not asus probe...it is the same probe they are measuring....just getting different results..and coretemp always insanely hihg....

No p5wdh is reading a thermal probe under the cpu itself, on the motherboard

[yike99]

System has been running fine at 3.3ghz but now when i am playing a game the usb keyboard disconnects and reconnects and it takes like 30sec to reinitialize. any ideas?

[Falkentyne]

99% of "Problems" posted here are not really bugs or somethings, BUT only total amateurism of users ... This thred is only chaotic bunch of stupidity ...not serious "Fixes thred"
I have no serious problem with this MoBo, my E6600 runs @430FSB, and i have RAID0, Firewire ... everything OK, only ONE problem i have - crappy memory dividers ...so far ...

Prove it, please.

Thank you. You couldn't.

Please don't crap this thread k thx.

[hot_fifty]

my E6600 will not be stable over 376-380FSB... but I have SPI 1m at 402FSB... What can I do to improve... Enabled SPD timings doesnt help and 1,6vmch does not... Maybe better cooling on NB? I have a 120mm 1200RPM on it

[alpha0ne]

System has been running fine at 3.3ghz but now when i am playing a game the usb keyboard disconnects and reconnects and it takes like 30sec to reinitialize. any ideas?

Set ICH chipset to 1.20V :)

[hot_fifty]

I want to be stable on 400FSB.. please help:_D

[Jimbo]

I have just upgraded my bios from 701 to 1101 and now PC probe talks even more rubbish. It says my cpu is at somthing like 256c then goes back down to 30c. It says my cpu rpm is dodgy and my case temp is high.

I say this program is not very good at monitoring the P5W DH.

Interestingly I had no problems with it apart from system temp on bios version 701.

[hot_fifty]

hmm that 256 is not bios related i think... But is there any improvment.. stability or overclock on 1101.. try everest ultimate edition and core temp to see temps

[Mykou]

hmm that 256 is not bios related i think... But is there any improvment.. stability or overclock on 1101.. try everest ultimate edition and core temp to see temps

with 1101 I can now boot with DDR 6400@1050 mhz 4-4-3-12 for benches

I'm still stable under prime with less Vcore 1.51 v@3.5 ghz ( 1.47v with pc probe 2 ( 3 hours blend test now and temp cpu is 56° :D ) but I replace NB heatsink yesterday maybe this could explain it too

I got 256° temps spikes too , but I noticed it comes when I run Cpu-z , strange but I don't mind really :)

Finally fine with this 1101 , and it works with ES...:toast:

[davefr]

I did some characterization of FSB vs Vcore with all other factors being equal.

I started with FSB = 330 and went to 380 and gradually brought up Vcore until the point that my system went from unstable to stable. I plotted this and determined the slope of the curve.

I found that for every 4 mV Vcore increase you could get about 1 Mhz increase in stable FSB speed. In other words 330 FSB was the best I could do at 1.3 Vcore. However at 1.5 Vcore I could get to 380 FSB and remain stable. The Vcore vs FSB curve was almost a straight line. Although I didn't try it, it looks like approx. 1.6 Vcore would be required to get to 400 FSB.

I suspect that the slope is the same for most E6600's but obviously the starting points could be shifted depending on the specific device.

For my system I settled on a conservative 366 FSB = 3.3 Ghz at 1.475. I'm affraid to go >1.5 Vcore.

E6600
P5W DH
PCI=33
PCIE = 101
MCH, ICH, Mem = Auto
HP3 disabled

[mion]

I did some characterization of FSB vs Vcore with all other factors being equal.

I started with FSB = 330 and went to 380 and gradually brought up Vcore until the point that my system went from unstable to stable. I plotted this and determined the slope of the curve.

I found that for every 4 mV Vcore increase you could get about 1 Mhz increase in stable FSB speed. In other words 330 FSB was the best I could do at 1.3 Vcore. However at 1.5 Vcore I could get to 380 FSB and remain stable. The Vcore vs FSB curve was almost a straight line. Although I didn't try it, it looks like approx. 1.6 Vcore would be required to get to 400 FSB.

I suspect that the slope is the same for most E6600's but obviously the starting points could be shifted depending on the specific device.

For my system I settled on a conservative 366 FSB = 3.3 Ghz at 1.475. I'm affraid to go >1.5 Vcore.

E6600
P5W DH
PCI=33
PCIE = 101
MCH, ICH, Mem = Auto
HP3 disabled

Did you try uping mch?

[unclean]

Prove it, please.

Thank you. You couldn't.

Please don't crap this thread k thx.

Reading through the thread is evidence enough, most of these are just silly non-MB related issues to do with user inexperience/ineptitude, and most of those that aren't have been answered multiple times.

If anything, this thread shows that there are only a couple of _real_ issues with the board and has made me more confident to get one :)

[Brahmzy]

This was pretty much my experience with my retail E6600 on the DS3 as well. Unfortunately, it looks like when I get my P5W DH Monday, I will be no better off with it than I was the DS3. :( So much for 975X being better for the 9x+ chips.

I did some characterization of FSB vs Vcore with all other factors being equal.

I started with FSB = 330 and went to 380 and gradually brought up Vcore until the point that my system went from unstable to stable. I plotted this and determined the slope of the curve.

I found that for every 4 mV Vcore increase you could get about 1 Mhz increase in stable FSB speed. In other words 330 FSB was the best I could do at 1.3 Vcore. However at 1.5 Vcore I could get to 380 FSB and remain stable. The Vcore vs FSB curve was almost a straight line. Although I didn't try it, it looks like approx. 1.6 Vcore would be required to get to 400 FSB.

I suspect that the slope is the same for most E6600's but obviously the starting points could be shifted depending on the specific device.

For my system I settled on a conservative 366 FSB = 3.3 Ghz at 1.475. I'm affraid to go >1.5 Vcore.

E6600
P5W DH
PCI=33
PCIE = 101
MCH, ICH, Mem = Auto
HP3 disabled

[lawrywild]

btw for me, my asus p5w undervolts by .05v so I'm fine running 1.55v in the bios for around 3.35 or something..

if you don't have a dmm then buy one..

[John600rr]

I found that I needed the following voltages to get the following clocks:

1.40 = 333FSB Stable = 3000mhz
1.50 = 350FSB Stable = 3150mhz
1.55 =370FSB Stable = 3333mhz
1.65 = 400FSB stable for dual prime 32m, but crashes dual SP2004 and BF2

This is with everything else on Auto (Vmch, Vich, Vfsb, RAM, etc). Hyperpath disabled, etc.

Even trying to run 375fsb with 1.6Vcore and MAX MCH, ICH, FSB, makes to different at all. The only setting that helps my OC stabalize is Cvore.

Maybe my CPU has reached its limit. It runs about 30c idle/42c load even at 1.55vcore though. But I think it's the board.

I would recommend no one else buys this board until Asus releases a proper BIOS (or maybe another revision). You can find higher OCs and more stability with other boards for much less.

This will also put pressure on ASUS to release a better BIOS and help the rest of us out.

[lawrywild]

1.50 = 350FSB Stable = 3150mhz
1.55 =370FSB Stable = 3333mhz

wtf, no way lol :stick:

[fornowagain]

I would recommend no one else buys this board until Asus releases a proper BIOS (or maybe another revision). You can find higher OCs and more stability with other boards for much less.

This will also put pressure on ASUS to release a better BIOS and help the rest of us out.
Yeah that's going to happen:poke:

I don't need anything like those voltages and I'm quite happy with mine thanks.

[davefr]

Did you try uping mch?


Yes, I chose a point where I was on the threshold of unstable to stable and played around with mch. It didn't make any meaningful difference.

[noobzed]

mine is fully stable at 400 x 9, 6600ES Step5

vcore in bios 1,55
vfsb 1,5
vmch 1,5

bios 801

2xsp2004
2xtoast
1xsuperpi 32m
1xprime95
1x3dmark2001 loop

during 1 night ( 8h ), no crash, temp is 51 for cpu, 60°c chipset in full

[hot_fifty]

mine is fully stable at 400 x 9, 6600ES Step5

vcore in bios 1,55
vfsb 1,5
vmch 1,5

bios 801

2xsp2004
2xtoast
1xsuperpi 32m
1xprime95
1x3dmark2001 loop

during 1 night ( 8h ), no crash, temp is 51 for cpu, 60°c chipset in full

On air, water or SS

[simonmaltby]

FSB WALL TESTING RESULTS AND A CONCLUSION

I did some work last night regarding FSB wall on this board....

P5W DH deluxe with Bios 1101
E6700 OEM Step 6 B2
2GB OCZ 6400 Plat 4,5,4,15

Results:
I have been having real issues at 380FSB and Above. I tried out an E6600 and that worked up to 400FSB, but no higher.

Another post of the foum put me onto crystal http://crystalmark.info/download/index-e.html which lets you change the multi in windows on this board.

So I tried the E6700 at 9x and 8x to see what happened.
The only Bios setting that helped at all was to set the ram to SPD - no voltage changes let me go higher than 379FSB. With SPD on i could do 410FSB before it would go no further. I should point out that SPD sets my ram at 5,6,6,20 - miles out from what it should be.... this got me thinking...

Next I booted with SPD settings and used memset http://rv.page.cegetel.net.perso.cegetel.net/MemSet.zip to see all the ram settings. I took a screen shot and saved the memset settings.

Then I rebooted changing back to manual RAM settings in the bios 4,4,5,15

When in windows I opened memset and changed all the settings apart from 4,4,5,15 to be the same as the screen shot at SPD.

I was then able to go right up to 440FSB before i suffered any issues.

Summary:
1. FSB Wall at 380FSB with manual Ram settings in Bios
2. FSB Wall at 400FSB with SPD ram settings in Bios
3. FSB Wall at 440FSB with manual Ram settings in Bios but changed to match SPD in windows with memset.

Conclusion:
Asus need to provide access to far more RAM settings in the Bios. This might well be the cause of the FSB wall and would explain why different people get the wall at different points... down to when the RAM fails due to its settings.

[Mykou]

Nice summary Simon :)

Might be helpful

[lawrywild]

Nice findings.. I'll look into that when I get some time..

[matt1]

Interesting, something else to try :)

[GrossmeisterB]

What BIOS is the best overclocking one so far?!?! I'm on 0701, as it came with my board, I'm using an E6400 with 2x1GB Mushkin EM6400 on it!!
I'm at 8x438 right now, vMCH at 1,65 Volts, I think I've hit a wall on the board, so I'm thinking of modding it, but I want to test some other BIOSes first... :)

[fornowagain]

snip
I haven't seen any wall as such, it goes as high as 420x9 and the chip craps out. And all with manual memory settings from the get go. So maybe different memory handles the standard settings better than others. If you were to try your experiment again you may even be able to narrow it down to a couple of timings.

[simonmaltby]

I haven't seen any wall as such, it goes as high as 420x9 and the chip craps out. And all with manual memory settings from the get go. So maybe different memory handles the standard settings better than others. If you were to try your experiment again you may even be able to narrow it down to a couple of timings.

I've ordered some of the Geil Ultra 4,4,4,12 that is reported to do well... I will see if the settings the bios picks up change with these when they arrive tomorrow.

I agree, it could well be the RAM that makes the difference.

[eva2000]

FSB WALL TESTING RESULTS AND A CONCLUSION

I did some work last night regarding FSB wall on this board....

P5W DH deluxe with Bios 1101
E6700 OEM Step 6 B2
2GB OCZ 6400 Plat 4,5,4,15

Results:
I have been having real issues at 380FSB and Above. I tried out an E6600 and that worked up to 400FSB, but no higher.

Another post of the foum put me onto crystal http://crystalmark.info/download/index-e.html which lets you change the multi in windows on this board.

So I tried the E6700 at 9x and 8x to see what happened.
The only Bios setting that helped at all was to set the ram to SPD - no voltage changes let me go higher than 379FSB. With SPD on i could do 410FSB before it would go no further. I should point out that SPD sets my ram at 5,6,6,20 - miles out from what it should be.... this got me thinking...

Next I booted with SPD settings and used memset http://rv.page.cegetel.net.perso.cegetel.net/MemSet.zip to see all the ram settings. I took a screen shot and saved the memset settings.

Then I rebooted changing back to manual RAM settings in the bios 4,4,5,15

When in windows I opened memset and changed all the settings apart from 4,4,5,15 to be the same as the screen shot at SPD.

I was then able to go right up to 440FSB before i suffered any issues.

Summary:
1. FSB Wall at 380FSB with manual Ram settings in Bios
2. FSB Wall at 400FSB with SPD ram settings in Bios
3. FSB Wall at 440FSB with manual Ram settings in Bios but changed to match SPD in windows with memset.

Conclusion:
Asus need to provide access to far more RAM settings in the Bios. This might well be the cause of the FSB wall and would explain why different people get the wall at different points... down to when the RAM fails due to its settings.
thank you so much seems your findings seem to apply to my Intel D975XBX Badaxe too! i loosened tRFC and tRD from 35/6 to 40/7 and went from 433fsb max fsb to now benching at 440fsb on 1067fsb strap (will try higher later )

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975x/975xbx_results/E66001_typhoon/81cfm/Gskill/PC6400PHU2HZ/17_18/1334/8x/533/440-440-4438_1.44-max-2.2/superpi-32m_single_14min22s547ms_tn.png (http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975x/975xbx_results/E66001_typhoon/81cfm/Gskill/PC6400PHU2HZ/17_18/1334/8x/533/440-440-4438_1.44-max-2.2/superpi-32m_single_14min22s547ms.png)

Maybe all motherboard manufacturers need to do is open their bioses to the other memory timing options that memset has available so we can further fine tune how high the fsb can go ? :)

[lawrywild]

:) interesting...

A shame however that my cpu craps out before I hit over 400fsb :(

[xgman]

FSB WALL TESTING RESULTS AND A CONCLUSION

I did some work last night regarding FSB wall on this board....

P5W DH deluxe with Bios 1101
E6700 OEM Step 6 B2
2GB OCZ 6400 Plat 4,5,4,15

Results:
I have been having real issues at 380FSB and Above. I tried out an E6600 and that worked up to 400FSB, but no higher.

Another post of the foum put me onto crystal http://crystalmark.info/download/index-e.html which lets you change the multi in windows on this board.

So I tried the E6700 at 9x and 8x to see what happened.
The only Bios setting that helped at all was to set the ram to SPD - no voltage changes let me go higher than 379FSB. With SPD on i could do 410FSB before it would go no further. I should point out that SPD sets my ram at 5,6,6,20 - miles out from what it should be.... this got me thinking...

Next I booted with SPD settings and used memset http://rv.page.cegetel.net.perso.cegetel.net/MemSet.zip to see all the ram settings. I took a screen shot and saved the memset settings.

Then I rebooted changing back to manual RAM settings in the bios 4,4,5,15

When in windows I opened memset and changed all the settings apart from 4,4,5,15 to be the same as the screen shot at SPD.

I was then able to go right up to 440FSB before i suffered any issues.

Summary:
1. FSB Wall at 380FSB with manual Ram settings in Bios
2. FSB Wall at 400FSB with SPD ram settings in Bios
3. FSB Wall at 440FSB with manual Ram settings in Bios but changed to match SPD in windows with memset.

Conclusion:
Asus need to provide access to far more RAM settings in the Bios. This might well be the cause of the FSB wall and would explain why different people get the wall at different points... down to when the RAM fails due to its settings.

Good summary. i would be very interested to know if the couple of asus "Engineering Sample" boards that are floating around that allow higher Vmch up to 1.85v would exhibit this same pattern or would the vigher chipset voltage counteract this? Maybe someone who has don a hardwrae vMCH pencil mod could repeat this test.

[xgman]

I did some characterization of FSB vs Vcore with all other factors being equal.

I started with FSB = 330 and went to 380 and gradually brought up Vcore until the point that my system went from unstable to stable. I plotted this and determined the slope of the curve.

I found that for every 4 mV Vcore increase you could get about 1 Mhz increase in stable FSB speed. In other words 330 FSB was the best I could do at 1.3 Vcore. However at 1.5 Vcore I could get to 380 FSB and remain stable. The Vcore vs FSB curve was almost a straight line. Although I didn't try it, it looks like approx. 1.6 Vcore would be required to get to 400 FSB.

I suspect that the slope is the same for most E6600's but obviously the starting points could be shifted depending on the specific device.



For my system I settled on a conservative 366 FSB = 3.3 Ghz at 1.475. I'm affraid to go >1.5 Vcore.

E6600
P5W DH
PCI=33
PCIE = 101
MCH, ICH, Mem = Auto
HP3 disabled


the problem with vcore increases is that temps scale considerably higher as well with even slight vcore increase steps.

[xgman]

Reading through the thread is evidence enough, most of these are just silly non-MB related issues to do with user inexperience/ineptitude, and most of those that aren't have been answered multiple times.

If anything, this thread shows that there are only a couple of _real_ issues with the board and has made me more confident to get one :)

Yes, I think most of this is "platform" related limitations and not bugs at all.

[lawrywild]

so far so good

1.5v real

[Durzel]

:woot: Nice one :)

I'm SP2004'ing at 3.7Ghz (370x10) at 1.4750v at the moment. Previously done an 18 hour run at 3.6Ghz (360x10) at 1.4250v, and a 3.4Ghz run at 1.3250v before that...

Getting a bit worried now because it looks like I'm gonna run out of sensible 24/7 voltage before I get to 4Ghz. Anyone know if sticking it under a single stage modded Vapo LS give me more stability at the same volts? I haven't changed any of the other settings yet, only vCore (and the obvious stuff like disabling Hyperpath 3, etc). At what point will I need to change vMCH, vFSB, ICH etc voltages from "Auto" ?

CPU showing ~60 degrees C loaded at the moment in PC Probe, I daren't look to see what it's showing in Coretemp.

[lawrywild]

:woot: Nice one :)

I'm SP2004'ing at 3.7Ghz (370x10) at 1.4750v at the moment. Previously done an 18 hour run at 3.6Ghz (360x10) at 1.4250v, and a 3.4Ghz run at 1.3250v before that...

Getting a bit worried now because it looks like I'm gonna run out of sensible 24/7 voltage before I get to 4Ghz. Anyone know if sticking it under a single stage modded Vapo LS give me more stability at the same volts? I haven't changed any of the other settings yet, only vCore (and the obvious stuff like disabling Hyperpath 3, etc). At what point will I need to change vMCH, vFSB, ICH etc voltages from "Auto" ?

CPU showing ~60 degrees C loaded at the moment in PC Probe, I daren't look to see what it's showing in Coretemp.

ofcourse it will, lower temps are (almost) always better :)

nice clocks.. wish mine did 3.6+

[famich]

BINGO, Simon !

I had the same problem with G SKILL HZ DDR 2G for my 939 setup-
I ve printed some of the settings from other ppl, wham ! :eek: , no boot , so I
did basically the same -SPD settings and A64tweaker in the XP .

It s the proof that DFI MB do not have all those mem settings in BIOS in vain
:D

[Durzel]

ofcourse it will, lower temps are (almost) always better :)

nice clocks.. wish mine did 3.6+Well, it crapped out a few moments ago in SP2004 - only did 30 mins so I guess 3.7Ghz/1.4750v isn't stable. Hopefully 1.4875v or whatever the next highest one up will do the job.

I'm sure you'll get further with your chip lawry, fingers crossed for you :)

Mines an ES so I'd be disappointed if I didn't get 3.6Ghz to be honest!

[Durzel]

FSB WALL TESTING RESULTS AND A CONCLUSION

I did some work last night regarding FSB wall on this board....

P5W DH deluxe with Bios 1101
E6700 OEM Step 6 B2
2GB OCZ 6400 Plat 4,5,4,15

Results:
I have been having real issues at 380FSB and Above. I tried out an E6600 and that worked up to 400FSB, but no higher.

Another post of the foum put me onto crystal http://crystalmark.info/download/index-e.html which lets you change the multi in windows on this board.

So I tried the E6700 at 9x and 8x to see what happened.
The only Bios setting that helped at all was to set the ram to SPD - no voltage changes let me go higher than 379FSB. With SPD on i could do 410FSB before it would go no further. I should point out that SPD sets my ram at 5,6,6,20 - miles out from what it should be.... this got me thinking...

Next I booted with SPD settings and used memset http://rv.page.cegetel.net.perso.cegetel.net/MemSet.zip to see all the ram settings. I took a screen shot and saved the memset settings.

Then I rebooted changing back to manual RAM settings in the bios 4,4,5,15

When in windows I opened memset and changed all the settings apart from 4,4,5,15 to be the same as the screen shot at SPD.

I was then able to go right up to 440FSB before i suffered any issues.

Summary:
1. FSB Wall at 380FSB with manual Ram settings in Bios
2. FSB Wall at 400FSB with SPD ram settings in Bios
3. FSB Wall at 440FSB with manual Ram settings in Bios but changed to match SPD in windows with memset.

Conclusion:
Asus need to provide access to far more RAM settings in the Bios. This might well be the cause of the FSB wall and would explain why different people get the wall at different points... down to when the RAM fails due to its settings.Great post Simon :)

The question is now I guess - will Asus (or someone who is able to mod it) provide a BIOS with these memory options available, or is there some way to set them automatically when Windows boots? (I've never used memset before so there might even be a way to do that now)

[lawrywild]

dam..

I just passed 2 hours.. didn't get any errors but evrything just shutdown :(

[simonmaltby]

Great post Simon :)

The question is now I guess - will Asus (or someone who is able to mod it) provide a BIOS with these memory options available, or is there some way to set them automatically when Windows boots? (I've never used memset before so there might even be a way to do that now)

They have to be in the Bios otherwise if you suffer you cant even get the board to post. memset can be set to make the changes at logon... but will not change the CAS from 5 to 4 without crashing first.

Also my method of changing the settings in windows proves that the SPD settings are all over the place and therefore its hit and miss if you get a clean post at all.

[hot_fifty]

dam..

I just passed 2 hours.. didn't get any errors but evrything just shutdown :(

maybe a bad PSU

[lawrywild]

maybe a bad PSU

psu is fine, it's not new, it's been running my x2 rig which drew more power than this

[MrJamela]

FSB WALL TESTING RESULTS AND A CONCLUSION

I did some work last night regarding FSB wall on this board....



Nicely done.

[fornowagain]

It s the proof that DFI MB do not have all those mem settings in BIOS in vain
:D
Yeah I had the Ultra-D, it really can be one settings that makes all the difference. Anyone got the DFI Infinity 975X? What that got for mem settings?

Anyway, here's my sub timings untouched on the HZ, these go well over 400 without SPD. Any major difference?

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/5651/timequ3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Plaicd]

Yeah I had the Ultra-D, it really can be one settings that makes all the difference. Anyone got the DFI Infinity 975X? What that got for mem settings?

Anyway, here's my sub timings untouched on the HZ, these go well over 400 without SPD. Any major difference?

Does changing the normal-turbo bios setting change any of those mem timings?

[fornowagain]

Does changing the normal-turbo bios setting change any of those mem timings?
Last time I'd tried turbo it locked out my vcore to auto. The only way I could get it off once on, was to load defaults, 903 bios btw. 1101 crashes on mine.