ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

[phile]

Hm, I seem to have the same thing. I'll be damned if I know what it means, though.

Oh, and as far as I can tell, I have no video issues.

-phil

[syne_24]

have you install the latest intel chipset driver?

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/scripts-df-external/Product_Filter.aspx?ProductID=2261&lang=eng

[phile]

I have the latest chipset drivers installed. So, syne_24, your SMBus controller has a driver installed? On my General tab it says there is no driver present. Presumably, the same situatiuon as Jungle+=.

-phil

[pentium777]

I have the same supposedly resource conflict, however I haven't noticed any issues with my video.. Sadly you had to show me this... Maybe I can just forget about it.. Lemme find some liquor... :)

[syne_24]

well i'll be damn i got it too..lol..lets see if anyone else has a fix..

[maarrk]

Mmm.. more A5wDH secrets uncovered :rolleyes: yes i have it there as well.

[phile]

I wonder if this SMBus controller is some legacy device, no longer being used.

-phil

[Jungle+=]

Yes...I have the latest 975X drivers installed directly from Intel's site (V.8.1.1.1001) . In the driver details button pop up for the SMBus , it says that I don't have a driver installed for it .... however the driver it shows above the button (V. 7.0.0.1020) is an Intel release from 23/05/2005 . The chipset INFINST.exe does not update it .

[Bloke]

I could also confirm Jungle+= 's issues on my system running 1503. What I'm curious about is if this is also manifested in the previous BIOS builds?

[Mr Footlong]

I have exactly the same I/O thingie on the SMBUS but I really, really wouldn't worry about it IMO.

[Mr Footlong]

Yeh, took the fan and fan casing off ofcourse :)

HR-05 is better but MUCH bigger and heavier..

Yeah, due to the height of it I am having second thoughts about sticking a fan on it as I think with the mobo standing upright, the leverage pressure on the chipset core will be more than the clamping bracket can keep directly in place. Vee shall see.....

[lopri]

I have the latest chipset drivers installed. So, syne_24, your SMBus controller has a driver installed? On my General tab it says there is no driver present. Presumably, the same situatiuon as Jungle+=.

-phil
SMBus Controller = Chipset

[lawrywild]

Intel Chipsets don't need drivers..

The only reason you install the Intel Chipset Installation thing is to "TELL" windows that certain things are there to be used. SMBus doesn't need a driver, just windows has to know it's there to be used.

[ROCKSOLID]

I could also confirm Jungle+= 's issues on my system running 1503. What I'm curious about is if this is also manifested in the previous BIOS builds?

I have the default 0701 Bios version (which came with the board that is rocksolid for me ) and have the same "issue" in device manager.

[kaiguy]

Wow. Funny thing is I thought I knew my system inside and out. I had no idea this was even there (or not there??)!

[catscit]

I have the default 0701 Bios version (which came with the board that is rocksolid for me ) and have the same "issue" in device manager.

i have 1402 and the same issue.
I'm planning on upgrading to 1503 today, 1407 gives mem timing problems on my rig, anything other then spd and i can't overclock (can't post, need cmos clear and the damn battery is under the 7950gx2!!!!!)

[lawrywild]

i have 1402 and the same issue.
I'm planning on upgrading to 1503 today, 1407 gives mem timing problems on my rig, anything other then spd and i can't overclock (can't post, need cmos clear and the damn battery is under the 7950gx2!!!!!)

Read the first page?

1503 won't fix it bro

[Clump]

I built the rig in the sig a few weeks ago. I'm very happy with the performance and the OC is Orthos stable at 22.5 hours, the longest that I've let it run.

I had a problem with S3 standby from the very beginning. Stock clocked or over clocked it would crash coming out of standby 100%. Hibernate would crash and restart sometimes going in and would crash and restart about 50% on resume. Very frustrating. I was blaming the video drivers since my previous build (AMD/nvidia) would sometimes not reinitialize the display coming out of standby and it definitely changed behavior with different video drivers.

Yesterday I found http://support.microsoft.com/kb/889673 and installed the hotfix. Standby works perfectly ever since!:clap: I have not tried hibernate again, since standby works so good now.

I hope this helps others who were frustrated by this issue.

[F!reStr!fe]

Is running 1.85 vMCH on air really bad. Because I dont know I tinker around with the ram volts and core volts but when i raise the vmch up to 1.85 i can stabilize at 400.

[mikepaul]

I have a feeling that this may be causing some of my video quality issues as well .The screenshot looks OK: what looks bad on your monitor?...

[hyperdoggy]

Anyone know what is aux temp in speedfan for this mobo? its giving me 75c and i have no clue what it is.

[coredump]

Anyone know what is aux temp in speedfan for this mobo? its giving me 75c and i have no clue what it is.

The third temperature input is not connected to a sensor and reports bogus data.

[my65bug]

Well I have been running my rig for about 5 days now. Everything seems to be ok with the exception of a low 3dmark06 score on the video side. Not really sure what is going on there.

http://www.differentracing.com/john/6194.jpg

[catscit]

Well I have been running my rig for about 5 days now. Everything seems to be ok with the exception of a low 3dmark06 score on the video side. Not really sure what is going on there.



what driver are you running?

my score increased by 50% after installing 91.47 (from 5500 to 8500)

[my65bug]

Ya know what... I dont know. There was no cd in the box I got so I had to download all of the software off asus's website. Where can I check the driver version?

[Strikez]

have you install the latest intel chipset driver?

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/scripts-df-external/Product_Filter.aspx?ProductID=2261&lang=eng


Does this mean you don't have this issue then? As I have done everything I can think of to try and get rid of this problem.

[lawrywild]

Does this mean you don't have this issue then? As I have done everything I can think of to try and get rid of this problem.

I already said, it's not a problem :rolleyes:

[Jungle+=]

Intel Chipsets don't need drivers..

The only reason you install the Intel Chipset Installation thing is to "TELL" windows that certain things are there to be used. SMBus doesn't need a driver, just windows has to know it's there to be used.

OK...but why is it conflicting with mothernaord resources ? :confused:

[Strikez]

I already said, it's not a problem :rolleyes:

Sorry for the newb question since it is showing a conflict just ignore it then?

[phile]

Regarding this SMBus issue, everyone that has checked has the exact same "conflict", myself included. It's a safe bet that we can all just ignore it.

-phil

[Sparx]

Yes I have it too.

[ThickFog]

Seams to be the biggest source on the internet for P5W DH Deluxe problems, so I will post mine here,

Specs:
P5W DH Dluxe Bios 1305
Intel 6600
Crosair XMS2 pc2-6400 5-5-5-12
ATi x1900xtx
Segate Baracuda 320gb
Enermax Libertity 520w
Antec P180

My huge problem varies. Somtimes my computer will just lock up on post, right after detecting my ram, other times I can enter, BIOS and it will lock up while going through BIOS menus. Other times it will just continue to boot as normal. When I try to boot from the windows disc, this usually leads to a restart.

This is my secound motherboard, I RMA'd the first one thinking the problem was faulty bios, but it seams i was wrong.

I am running memtest89 right now and so far no errors. (Side question, when do i know memtest has gone through a complete cycle?) The only problem i can see is on post, it usually detects my ram as pc-5300 or somthing, i have tried manualy changng it to ddr2-800, but then i get the occasional overvoltage, when i havent messed with the voltage.

This is my first ever computer build and im not enjoying the experence.... any help is appricated

[NghtShd]

My huge problem varies. Somtimes my computer will just lock up on post, right after detecting my ram, other times I can enter, BIOS and it will lock up while going through BIOS menus. Other times it will just continue to boot as normal. When I try to boot from the windows disc, this usually leads to a restart.


I don't see a liberty 520 listed at newegg, but whether it's the 500 or the 620 it should be fine, yet that behavior looks like a PSU problem to me.

I see those PSUs have modular cables. Is the extra 4 pin section on the ATX power connector detachable on the PSU end? If so, you might want to check that it is connected properly. My P5W DH will run without the extra 4 power pins connected, but it behaves in a similar way to what you are seeing. My PC2-6400 RAM would test good running at DDR2-667 without those pins connected, but wouldn't work at its rated speed.

You just need to change the divider for the DRAM speed when you get everything working. It's normal for it to be set at PC2-5300 until you do.

[davexl]

I built the rig in the sig a few weeks ago. I'm very happy with the performance and the OC is Orthos stable at 22.5 hours, the longest that I've let it run.

I had a problem with S3 standby from the very beginning. Stock clocked or over clocked it would crash coming out of standby 100%. Hibernate would crash and restart sometimes going in and would crash and restart about 50% on resume. Very frustrating. I was blaming the video drivers since my previous build (AMD/nvidia) would sometimes not reinitialize the display coming out of standby and it definitely changed behavior with different video drivers.

Yesterday I found http://support.microsoft.com/kb/889673 and installed the hotfix. Standby works perfectly ever since!:clap: I have not tried hibernate again, since standby works so good now.

I hope this helps others who were frustrated by this issue.

THANK you - fixed my standby issues on one machine. Much appreciated.

Now if only I could work out why my second P5w box won't even allow standby or hibernate...

[Jimbo]

Yep I have this SMBUS thing too. I dont think its anything though, although a few times I got blurry display from my X1900XT on dvi.

[TheMaster]

Well i can't update bios from AsusUpdate utility from windows because ive a creative X-fi soundcard, and is a known issue that asus update cannot work when you have a creative soundcard installed, but thx anyway...
Any help would be great...
Hmm, how i do my Update with Asus Update tool :am: :wierd: ^^
If it really wont work, just keep the Card off, update Bios and finally plug back your Soundblaster/xFi.

[Levesque]

Hello everyone. Just done a clean swap of my Asus P4C800E deluxe for a new system (I think I will miss that great MB...). I have the "POST lockup during detecting IDE devices bug" problem during reboot only. Here's my specs:

C2D E6600 (stock speed) + Asus P5W DH (bios 15.03)
-Corsair 2X1024 (5-5-5-15-2T) (SPD)
-Segate 7200.10 SATA2 320 GB on ICH7 red header, non-RAID (I have 2 other drives but to try to fix my reboot bug I just use one...)
-HP DVD writer 200j (ICH7), non SATA
-Lite-On DVD writer SHW-160P6S (ICH7) non SATA
-XFX Geforce 7950 GX2
-SoundBlaster X-Fi Fatal1ty (not installed, trying to fix the reboot bug before...)
-Antec Trio 650W
-PS2 keyboard
-USB mouse

When I reboot, I see 2048 meg of RAM, and then it freeze there. Nothing else, even after 1-2 minutes. If I power/off/on then everything goes smooth and the HD and DVD writers are all recognized and I get a regular and really fast boot.

Jmicron is disabled in bios. But I have the same problem if it's enabled...

I've tried all the settings in the bios for the drives: Compatible mode, enhanced mode, PATA+SATA, SATA, etc.

Impossible to reboot. The only thing working is power off/on. Everything is at stock speed, no overclocking, minimal install w/o any PCI cards to try to fix that "bug".

Everything is working perfectly and stable in Win XP Pro if I start with a power on. The only problem is the rebooting.

Thanks for your help.

[Liquid3D]

Stupid question but you have cleared CMOS? Try removing one stick of RAM and switching slots.

[Levesque]

Stupid question but you have cleared CMOS? Try removing one stick of RAM and switching slots.

I've cleared the CMOS with the jumper (1 minute), but I simply have no idea how to remove the gigantic GX2 card blocking the CMOS battery to remove it. Why did they put the battery there? Do you think that the jumper clearing was enough?

Can someone tell me how to remove the "safety" clip on the GX2 to pull the card out (I really feel like a newbie...)?

I have try all the SATA headers with the same result.

[TheMaster]

Press down the Clip from abouve with a pliers, but be really carefull!!!!!!!!!
For a Biosreset you just need to turn over the jumper the next pin at right side.
No need to take out the batt.

[Sparx]

You should be able to push the white clip/latch down toward the bottom of the case with a pencil or something non metallic to prevent damage if you slip.

I never remove my battery when I clear Cmos either.
sparx

[imperiallord]

P5W DH Deluxe Bios 1503
Intel 6600
Corsair XMS2 pc2-6400 5-5-5-12
ATi x1900xtx
Seagate Baracuda 320gb
Seasonic 600w

I have a question, I can't get my second Hard drive to detect in windows. My second hard drive is also a Seagate 320 gb hd. I am not doing a raid, I just want to use it for storage. It shows up in bios but it doesn't show up in windows. Although it does show up in windows installation, both drive that is. I have the main master hd connected to the red slot sata and the slave hd connected to the black slot sata.

When I go do "My computers" => "Manage" => "Storage" => "Disk Management" it doesn't show up at all, to let me assign a drive letter to it, so I can format it. I'm not exactly sure what to do.

Also another problem I have is hanging, the computer hangs when I work in programs such as Illustrator, Photoshop, After Effects, Maya, I can't open multiple programs and multitask, or else the program crashes. Sometimes I have to close a folder, or close my winamp or close firefox, to remove the hang. I'm not sure if I'm the only one encountering this weird hang problem.

Any help would be appreciated thanks.

[Levesque]

Thank you guys.

I was able to remove the video card, remove the battery and clear CMOS with the jumper. I disabled jmicron and all the Q-fan and fans settings.

So now I can reboot...

Those steps are pretty fast:

Primary Master.. Atapi CD-ROM
Primary Slave.. Atapi CD-ROM
3rd Master...
3rd slave...

Then it stays like that for around 30-45 seconds, and then I have a very loooooong boot in Windows... A big 2-3 minutes to reboot...

With my P4C800E deluxe I was good to go in 30-35 seconds max with a full reboot. Sigh... I really think I will miss that board...

Booting in windows is alot faster when doing a power off/on with my P5W DH. Around 50-60 seconds (still too long IMHO, but better then the reboot problem...).

Strange... What's happening when I reboot? What's different then when I do a power off/on?

Apart from that boot problem, my system is really stable.

[cadaveca]

Um, for battery removal press either the right or left side of the battery, and it will "tilt" so you can get a hold of it. the clip that is on this board cannot be depressed.

It's only is bad cases that you need to remove the battery...I have had to clear CMOS from overclocking(yes the asus crap didn't work) many many times, and only once had to remove the battery as well.

Levesque


Under the first page is drive options or something...change the HDD delay there to 0.

[Levesque]

Under the first page is drive options or something... change the HDD delay there to 0.

It's working! Why they put a default value of 35 is beyond me, but with "0", it's re-booting "normally". The 35 seconds delay to detect the drives is gone. Thank you! :toast:

But I still don't understand why it's taking so much time to start Win XP. With my old P4C800E Win XP was starting alot faster. A good 30 seconds faster then with the P5W DH.

[cadaveca]

Probably due to the drivers that must load...afer all, this is what happens when you start XP. A defrag can sometimes help too.

[Xtasy]

Hey,

does somebody has a bios which is able to deactivate one core on my p5wdh ? we need it very quickly

[JokerCPoC]

P5W DH Deluxe Bios 1503
Intel 6600
Corsair XMS2 pc2-6400 5-5-5-12
ATi x1900xtx
Seagate Baracuda 320gb
Seasonic 600w

I have a question, I can't get my second Hard drive to detect in windows. My second hard drive is also a Seagate 320 gb hd. I am not doing a raid, I just want to use it for storage. It shows up in bios but it doesn't show up in windows. Although it does show up in windows installation, both drive that is. I have the main master hd connected to the red slot sata and the slave hd connected to the black slot sata.

When I go do "My computers" => "Manage" => "Storage" => "Disk Management" it doesn't show up at all, to let me assign a drive letter to it, so I can format it. I'm not exactly sure what to do.

Also another problem I have is hanging, the computer hangs when I work in programs such as Illustrator, Photoshop, After Effects, Maya, I can't open multiple programs and multitask, or else the program crashes. Sometimes I have to close a folder, or close my winamp or close firefox, to remove the hang. I'm not sure if I'm the only one encountering this weird hang problem.

Any help would be appreciated thanks.

I don't know if You have this or not, But do You have the powertoys for windows xp?
If You don't It may help as Your drive may just be hidden or It's unformatted and needs to be formatted by the XP setup CD possibly. I hope one of these two ideas help.:D

[kaiguy]

P5W DH Deluxe Bios 1503
Intel 6600
Corsair XMS2 pc2-6400 5-5-5-12
ATi x1900xtx
Seagate Baracuda 320gb
Seasonic 600w

I have a question, I can't get my second Hard drive to detect in windows. My second hard drive is also a Seagate 320 gb hd. I am not doing a raid, I just want to use it for storage. It shows up in bios but it doesn't show up in windows. Although it does show up in windows installation, both drive that is. I have the main master hd connected to the red slot sata and the slave hd connected to the black slot sata.

When I go do "My computers" => "Manage" => "Storage" => "Disk Management" it doesn't show up at all, to let me assign a drive letter to it, so I can format it. I'm not exactly sure what to do.

That's strange that it doesn't show up under Disk Management. When I installed my 3rd SATA (first two were in RAID), that's how I had to format it/show it. But it does show up in the BIOS? How about under Disk Drives in the Device Manager?

[Jungle+=]

If I recall correctly...I had the same issue...
With my circumstance , I had to set the Jmicron raid to normal mode to get the ide drive recognized in windows despite being recognized in bios .Did ya remember to install the raid drvers for both controllers with F6 method a windows install ?

[dmilazzo78]

Need a 600watt plus psu with at least 38 amp or more on the 12v rail.
Top quality thats is known to work well with this mobo

Mine took a dump 120mm fan is stuck at full rpm second one with fan control issues

http://www.mgecompany.com/xg/products_powersupplies_vortec700.php got this from compusuck

So now I want a very good quality psu that has no known issue's with this psu

[monza1412]

Seams to be the biggest source on the internet for P5W DH Deluxe problems, so I will post mine here,

Specs:
P5W DH Dluxe Bios 1305
Intel 6600
Crosair XMS2 pc2-6400 5-5-5-12
ATi x1900xtx
Segate Baracuda 320gb
Enermax Libertity 520w
Antec P180

My huge problem varies. Somtimes my computer will just lock up on post, right after detecting my ram, other times I can enter, BIOS and it will lock up while going through BIOS menus. Other times it will just continue to boot as normal. When I try to boot from the windows disc, this usually leads to a restart.

This is my secound motherboard, I RMA'd the first one thinking the problem was faulty bios, but it seams i was wrong.

I am running memtest89 right now and so far no errors. (Side question, when do i know memtest has gone through a complete cycle?) The only problem i can see is on post, it usually detects my ram as pc-5300 or somthing, i have tried manualy changng it to ddr2-800, but then i get the occasional overvoltage, when i havent messed with the voltage.

This is my first ever computer build and im not enjoying the experence.... any help is appricated


I´ve the same problem, and I tried 2 different psu, one with 30a in the 12 line
and also happens with the minimum hardware installed, I mean, hdd, 1 cdrom, VGA (PCI 1MB), and also when the sistem is not oc at all

[Sparx]

Stay the hell away from Thermaltake 750 watt Toughpower. :nono: Mine after two weeks of ownership burned up, and to make things worse kept on running!

The PC was left on idle last evening and the 12 volt rail(s) cooked up and the monitor had the "insert boot disc" error message on it! I thought for sure my CD, floppy, and Sata HD were cooked but I pulled the PS out of my AMD Epox and the P5w seems OK. :clap:

I ordered a PC Power and Cooling 750 watt power supply to replace the burned out unit.

First time I had a PS go south, it's always something. :mad: The thing that concerns me the most is that it did not shut itself down.
sparx

[ThickFog]

I don't see a liberty 520 listed at newegg, but whether it's the 500 or the 620 it should be fine, yet that behavior looks like a PSU problem to me.

I see those PSUs have modular cables. Is the extra 4 pin section on the ATX power connector detachable on the PSU end? If so, you might want to check that it is connected properly. My P5W DH will run without the extra 4 power pins connected, but it behaves in a similar way to what you are seeing. My PC2-6400 RAM would test good running at DDR2-667 without those pins connected, but wouldn't work at its rated speed.

You just need to change the divider for the DRAM speed when you get everything working. It's normal for it to be set at PC2-5300 until you do.


Your right, its only a 500w, my bad

I really dont have another power supply to play around with, how can i truly limit the problem to this? monza1412 above said he was still getting the same problem with a new psu.

Memtest found no errors in the ram. A post HardForum is the only other place i can find someone else having the same problem (http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1114332)

Any help would be nice, I really want this computer to start working

[kaiguy]

I can't seem to figure out what's causing my HD activity light to consistently blink (almost exactly every second). I've disabled the CD/DVD autoplay to see if that would fix it, but it didn't. Not sure if this is a mobo issue or something else, so I am curious if other people are experiencing this. I guess its not a big deal, but I've never had this happen on any of my previous builds, so it's a curiosity.

[Sparx]

Your right, its only a 500w, my bad

I really dont have another power supply to play around with, how can i truly limit the problem to this? monza1412 above said he was still getting the same problem with a new psu.

Memtest found no errors in the ram. A post HardForum is the only other place i can find someone else having the same problem (http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1114332)

Any help would be nice, I really want this computer to start working
Can you list your voltage settings and the settings in Advanced> Jumperfree?
sparx

[dmilazzo78]

Hey sparx is this the one you ordered http://www.pcpower.com/products/viewproduct.php?show=S75EPS&view=about I was looking at the Thermaltake 750 watt I have a back up ocz 520 and when I run 3dmark06 it freezes never had that issue even with my 700w xg

I need a bad ass power supply that will take anything I hook to it keep the suggestions coming just please actually own it and assure it works with this mobo

[Liquid3D]

Check your Windows Task Manager for Running Processes and the CPU activity level, there may be something going on in the back-ground which for some unknown reason is consistanly accessing the HDD. Place your ear next to the drive, is it spinning up, accessing it's cache? how many MB cache does it have 8MB, 15MB? These may seem like silly suggestions but I'd think they would eliminate the obvious.

I'd enter the BIOS and switch it to Default settings, see if that disbales something that may be causing constant HDD activity...

I can't seem to figure out what's causing my HD activity light to consistently blink (almost exactly every second). I've disabled the CD/DVD autoplay to see if that would fix it, but it didn't. Not sure if this is a mobo issue or something else, so I am curious if other people are experiencing this. I guess its not a big deal, but I've never had this happen on any of my previous builds, so it's a curiosity.

[Sparx]

man I was looking at the Thermaltake 750 watt I have a back up ocz 520 and when I run 3dmark06 it freezes never had that issue even with my 700w xg

I need a bad ass power supply that will take anything I hook to it keep the suggestions coming just please actually own it and assure it works with this mobo
I ordered a PC Power & Cooling 750 watt from Newegg today. I am not taking any chances with Thermaltakes.

It does not have 4 separate 18 amp rails like many, nor the modular power cables. But, it is a quiet model and has 60 amps on the 12 rail. I read about 3-4 reviews and it holds voltage at heavy loads like a rock.

If I have issues I will report them here. I should have it Friday at the latest.
I just got my rig running and connected and did some great gaming online (COD2) yesterday before it burned up.

It doesn't matter though, since I am changing my HS to a thermalright 120 and the MCH heast sink to a Thermalright as well... forgot the model # sorry.

There sure is a lot of crap on the market these days. :moon:
sparx

[Pol1977]

man I was looking at the Thermaltake 750 watt I have a back up ocz 520 and when I run 3dmark06 it freezes never had that issue even with my 700w xg

I need a bad ass power supply that will take anything I hook to it keep the suggestions coming just please actually own it and assure it works with this mobo

I have the Thermaltake Toughpower 700w for more about two months now.

I am running stable with a P5W DH Deluxe (1.65v MHC), E6400 @ 3.2GHz (auto voltage). I have 3 hard drives, 2 DVD RWs an ATI X1950XTX (overclocked as far as it goes with CCC) and a TV tuner on it with absolutely no problems.

I can't get my 667MHz ram sticks to work at 800MHz but it's probably a ram issue so I just oredered me a pair of G-Skills...

But the PSU is working great for me.

[Pol1977]

It doesn't matter though, since I am changing my HS to a thermalright 120 and the MCH heast sink to a Thermalright as well... forgot the model # sorry.


Probably the thermalright HR-05 or HR-05 SLI

Let me know if it fits because I have the thermalright 120 ultra on my CPU as well (with a standard 120mm fan - best cooler I've owned) and am thinking about getting a thermalright northbridge heatsink but I'm not sure it will fit...

A piece of advice... leave the crappy metal clips in the box and secure the fan with some tie-wraps going through the top and bottom fins... It's much better and more secure.

[Sparx]

Yes POL
That is the one I ordered- HR-05. ( reads like a bill in Congress -no?) thanks for the tip on the fasteners.

I am concerned about the fit actually, but I ordered it anyway.

I put a temp probe in between the fins on the stock MCH HS with factory TiM still in place and I got 35C loaded. I have a little 40 mm ( I think it is 40) fan setting on top the HS with hot glue, ghetto install! :p:

Anyway I pushed the temp probe down against the base plate and that is temp reading I got.

sparx

[davexl]

I can't seem to figure out what's causing my HD activity light to consistently blink (almost exactly every second). I've disabled the CD/DVD autoplay to see if that would fix it, but it didn't. Not sure if this is a mobo issue or something else, so I am curious if other people are experiencing this. I guess its not a big deal, but I've never had this happen on any of my previous builds, so it's a curiosity.

Get Filemon from sysinternals.com - it shows you what process is causing it.

It helped me diagnose that a defrag tool had a service which keeps hard drives form spinning down.

[ThickFog]

Can you list your voltage settings and the settings in Advanced> Jumperfree?
sparx
All the voltage settings are on auto.

I was able to get the windows disc to boot an start reformatting my hd, i chose NTFS (slow, not the quick one) and i got this error
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/993/william072bn1.jpg
This CD has worked fine for me before

Arg.. this is really fustrating

[Sparx]

All the voltage settings are on auto.

I was able to get the windows disc to boot an start reformatting my hd, i chose NTFS (slow, not the quick one) and i got this error
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/993/william072bn1.jpg
This CD has worked fine for me before

Arg.. this is really fustrating
Ok why don't you try putting the RAM at 2.0 and the Vcore at 1.325 pci express on 101. You should have pci clock 33.3.
Also set PERFORMANCE Mode to> Standard
This is not excessive voltage see if it helps.
Your error code on the install could be related to instability.
Also you have the 4 pin power plug installed into the motherboard?
I don't know your video card but it has a port and that is connected for 12 volts too?

In addtion: Run the RAM at : SPD
In CPU Configuration:
Microcode Updation > Enabled
The Five (5) remaining items> Disabled



sparx

[ThickFog]

Ok why don't you try putting the RAM at 2.0 and the Vcore at 1.325 pci express on 101. You should have pci clock 33.3.
This is not excessive voltage see if it helps.
Your error code on the install could be related to instability.
Also you have the 4 pin power plug installed into the motherboard?
I don't know your video card but it has a port and that is connected for 12 volts too?


sparx
Ok I will try those voltage settings now.

I have the 4 pin power pluged into my motherboard, i also have a 4 pin one pluged next to the cpu, and one (on a pci-e cord) to my graphics card

Thanks for the help, hopefully it works

[imperiallord]

I don't know if You have this or not, But do You have the powertoys for windows xp?
If You don't It may help as Your drive may just be hidden or It's unformatted and needs to be formatted by the XP setup CD possibly. I hope one of these two ideas help.

I have windows xp professional, I don't know what powertoys is, although I look it up, and it seem like its just add-ons. I can format it in windows xp but that would install windows xp into my secondary drive which I don't want to do, which would make me have two dual boots operating systems.

That's strange that it doesn't show up under Disk Management. When I installed my 3rd SATA (first two were in RAID), that's how I had to format it/show it. But it does show up in the BIOS? How about under Disk Drives in the Device Manager?

It shows up in Bios and it also shows up when I do windows installation, when I pop in my windows xp cd. It doesn't show up in Disk Drives in Device Managers, it doesn't show up at all when I load up windows.

If I recall correctly...I had the same issue...
With my circumstance , I had to set the Jmicron raid to normal mode to get the ide drive recognized in windows despite being recognized in bios .Did ya remember to install the raid drvers for both controllers with F6 method a windows install ?

I install Jmicron but immediately disable it and didn't completely install it all the way. I didn't install the raid drivers for both controllers with the F6 method using windows install. Can you explain more? This might be my problem...

Also the hanging problem while multitasking with several programs open, until I close several programs will it go away, does anyone have this problem??

[Sparx]

Ok I will try those voltage settings now.

I have the 4 pin power pluged into my motherboard, i also have a 4 pin one pluged next to the cpu, and one (on a pci-e cord) to my graphics card

Thanks for the help, hopefully it works

ThickFog
I added some more settings to my post.
Sorry it is such a fragmented post, but my rig is dead right now and I cannot see the BIOS because of my power supply issue.
sparx

[Jungle+=]

I install Jmicron but immediately disable it and didn't completely install it all the way. I didn't install the raid drivers for both controllers with the F6 method using windows install. Can you explain more? This might be my problem...

In your case I don't beleive that you would need to install the raid drivers then .....since you are just using the Intel sata controllers with no raid for those drives. J micron raid drivers definately not needed in this case . I also noticed that in your original post mentioned that one drive is a master and the other a slave . I thought that both drives must be either master or cable select for use on sata since each drives uses it's own individual cable

What settings have you used for the IDE configuration in Bios ? ( ide config controls the Intel sata ports )

[kaiguy]

Check your Windows Task Manager for Running Processes and the CPU activity level, there may be something going on in the back-ground which for some unknown reason is consistanly accessing the HDD. Place your ear next to the drive, is it spinning up, accessing it's cache? how many MB cache does it have 8MB, 15MB? These may seem like silly suggestions but I'd think they would eliminate the obvious.

I'd enter the BIOS and switch it to Default settings, see if that disbales something that may be causing constant HDD activity...
I don't think the drive is actually being accessed. I experienced this problem with all BIOS settings at default before. It also occurred with a completely different P5W. Task manager shows no unusual CPU activity on any single process. The RAID drives are 8mb cache, my other drive is 16--all WDs. I wish there was something I could remove to try it, but I know its not the CD/DVD or the floppy. Everything else is required (video, ram, etc.).

Get Filemon from sysinternals.com - it shows you what process is causing it.

It helped me diagnose that a defrag tool had a service which keeps hard drives form spinning down.
I'll try to get that particular program. I know I tried one before (not sure which, but it was freeware) that shows every access on the harddrive. It wouldn't show anything unless I did something (like press the Start button, open a file, etc.), yet the activity light still blinks away. (ADDED: Actually, upon looking at that program, that was the one I tried.)

Thanks, both of you, for your suggestions.

[rivlez]

does anyone got this board and a e6300? if so what do u get overclocking? i've had this board for like 3 weeks or so, pretty dissatisfied with it. I got an e6300 that oc's on a P5B Deluxe WiFi/AP 3.6ghz@1.45v but when i put it in there i can't even get it stable at 3.2ghz at the same voltage! I've tried pretty much every bios out there for it and it really doesn't make too much a difference. if u have similar let me know what u get!

[infrared]

The P5W DH Deluxe can't reach fsb's much over 450mhz without modifications. That's why you can only reach 3.2ghz on this board.

[rivlez]

ya i realized that pretty quickly, pretty dissappointed in this board. Wish i would've just bought another P5B Deluxe. Maybe it'll be good when i get a e6600 or higher, give me a higher clock to start with.

[mikepaul]

I'll try to get that particular program. I know I tried one before (not sure which, but it was freeware) that shows every access on the harddrive. It wouldn't show anything unless I did something (like press the Start button, open a file, etc.), yet the activity light still blinks away. (ADDED: Actually, upon looking at that program, that was the one I tried.)
I installed CompUSA cold-boot-swappable hard disk cartridges in my machines a few years back when even my gigabit LAN took 20+ minutes to move 4GB files around, and I now use the constantly-blinking drive light to tell if the machine has crashed. I have never found a good reason for the light to do that, and I believe that the primary HD light is also blinking slighty but it isn't as obvious. The swappable drive is on the secondary IDE chain along with my DVD writer.

The blinking did move from a PIII ASUS board to a P5W DH so it's not a new thing, but again they were both ASUS boards...

[mikepaul]

does anyone got this board and a e6300? if so what do u get overclocking? i've had this board for like 3 weeks or so, pretty dissatisfied with it. I got an e6300 that oc's on a P5B Deluxe WiFi/AP 3.6ghz@1.45v but when i put it in there i can't even get it stable at 3.2ghz at the same voltage! I've tried pretty much every bios out there for it and it really doesn't make too much a difference. if u have similar let me know what u get!I'm annoyed that I didn't reach the 3Ghz I'd seen in the online reviews, but 2.87Ghz is now fairly stable.

You needed to manage to get a board that allows a vMCH of more than 1.65V, and memory that can overclock well past 800Mhz. Since my Corsair RAM refuses to reliably go faster than 820Mhz and still use the 1:1 ratio, I had to stop at a 410Mhz FSB setting. 420 would have worked if I lowered the ratio, but the benchmarks look better the way things sit now. Either way I was still under 3Ghz...

[mikepaul]

But I still don't understand why it's taking so much time to start Win XP. With my old P4C800E Win XP was starting alot faster. A good 30 seconds faster then with the P5W DH.I installed a USB TV tuner and the associated software seemed to bog my machine down a LOT while booting. After many reboots it must have finally completed whatever it had to do, and things went back to normal. There's an occasional lag after the swapfile defrag that happens at every boot, and I lose some USB devices somehow every few days and reinstalling the drivers isn't too quick.

If I had known every restart was going to be an adventure, I can't say I'd still have gotten this board...

[rivlez]

I'm annoyed that I didn't reach the 3Ghz I'd seen in the online reviews, but 2.87Ghz is now fairly stable.

You needed to manage to get a board that allows a vMCH of more than 1.65V, and memory that can overclock well past 800Mhz. Since my Corsair RAM refuses to reliably go faster than 820Mhz and still use the 1:1 ratio, I had to stop at a 410Mhz FSB setting. 420 would have worked if I lowered the ratio, but the benchmarks look better the way things sit now. Either way I was still under 3Ghz...

ya i know what u mean, i can do 3ghz easy with very little to get prime95 stable, when i get home i'm going to try and mess with it a little more. Just sucks that it is not a good ocing board for lower end c2d cpu's. Just wish I would've seen this forum and read some of the threads, definitely would've bought another P5B deluxe or even the an Abit board. What can you do though.

[cuke2u]

Hi all, this is my first post in this excellent and informative forum and I just want to share some things with you....

I've had this motherboard since tues last and since then I've managed to obtain a overclock of 2.4ghz with the standard HSF with FSB of 346.4 and my multiplier is 7.
Seems stable enough, although I've had a couple of lockups in 3dmark and Fear, but I'm not sure if it's the catsd 6.10 causing this or my memory modules.

I've got a couple of Geil DDR2 667MHz, PC5300 667MHz matched pairs in there and they are running at 692mhz, timings of 4 4 4 12 with voltage set to auto.

Question is, do I need to lower my timings, or/and increase my voltage or should I be ok? And... am I likely to be able to get anymore with the same HSF?
Answers on a postcard please :-)
ChrisC

[Pjoeloe]

new p5w-dh review here : http://www.hartware.de/review_627.html

[ThickFog]

Ok why don't you try putting the RAM at 2.0 and the Vcore at 1.325 pci express on 101. You should have pci clock 33.3.
Also set PERFORMANCE Mode to> Standard
This is not excessive voltage see if it helps.
Your error code on the install could be related to instability.
Also you have the 4 pin power plug installed into the motherboard?
I don't know your video card but it has a port and that is connected for 12 volts too?

In addtion: Run the RAM at : SPD
In CPU Configuration:
Microcode Updation > Enabled
The Five (5) remaining items> Disabled
Ok.. Your settings have greatly increased my stability but Im still having a few problems.
sparx

I was able to install windows xp home sucessfully, and install all the motherboard drivers (off the cd). When i installed my Ati catalyst, the bios again locked up on post, i turned it the pc off, and swiched the power supply on and off. Then I was then able to go in and find that your settings, that i had put in my bios were now all set to auto. Changing them back, the PC again ran perfectly and i was able to install mouse software etc

Then i go to begin the windows update process. The first step it informs me is I have to install a new windows update version, this requires a reboot. During the reboot, just as the windows screen loads it restarts by it'self, and the bios locks up. Using the power supply reboot method, it gave me a ovevoltage error and i was able to enter bios. All your settings were the same as before except Intel Temperature control was inabled (in cpu configuration) After turning this off and rebooting, windows asks me if i want to start windows normal, safe mode.. etc

I chose normal and now i get this error
System32/drivers/ntfs.sys is missing or corropted.

Im going to try and repair windows with my cd, but i dont want this error happening again

Help

Edit: i get those overvoltage errors when the post has read my ram as pc2-5300, with your settings in the bios

[Sparx]

Thickfog

Could you please give a sig of you rig, you know the parts? Maybe go to Usercp up top left on the page and enter in there then it will follow your posts and you won't have to re-enter it.

Do you by chance have a VOM meter?

I wonder if your power supply is providing strange voltages?
This is your second motherboard so we have to look elsewhere.

This PW5 is a good board and worth the effort, don't give up yet. ;)
Edit: Also is there a way for you to check the CMOS battery and see if it is NOT dead? (VOM again sorry)
sparx

[ThickFog]

Thickfog

Could you please give a sig of you rig, you know the parts? Maybe go to Usercp up top left on the page and enter in there then it will follow your posts and you won't have to re-enter it.

Do you by chance have a VOM meter?

I wonder if your power supply is providing strange voltages?
This is your second motherboard so we have to look elsewhere.

This PW5 is a good board and worth the effort, don't give up yet. ;)
Edit: Also is there a way for you to check the CMOS battery and see if it is NOT dead? (VOM again sorry)
sparx
Ya I think i got a VOM meter around here somewhere.. Ill go look for it.
So just unplug them all and test to see if the right voltages are right? which one do you expect is not working?

I also noticed the 2.00v for the ram is purple, and it wasnt purple before (to the best of my knowledge)

[Sparx]

I just want you to check the voltages coming out of the power supply when ALL cables are disconnnected from the mother board and drives etc.

What voltage is the RAM you have rated at, it has to take 2.0 volts?

Let me know when you find the meter.
Also you have the RAM in the orange slots correct? Also have you run with ONE stick of RAM?

Was it you that ran Memorytest 86 on the ram and got no errors?

Sorry for all the questions, this rig at default speed should be allowing you to install windows for criz sake.

sparx

[ThickFog]

I just want you to check the voltages coming out of the power supply when ALL cables are disconnnected from the mother board and drives etc.

What voltage is the RAM you have rated at, it has to take 2.0 volts?

Let me know when you find the meter.
Also you have the RAM in the orange slots correct? Also have you run with ONE stick of RAM?

Was it you that ran Memorytest 86 on the ram and got no errors?

Sorry for all the questions, this rig at default speed should be allowing you to install windows for criz sake.

sparx
Ya it wa me who ran memtest86 and found no errors, that is the only time I have booted with only one stick of ram

http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/products/specs/TWIN2X2048-6400.pdf
I found this on the corsair websight saying it is only tested at 1.9v I will change our ram voltges back to 1.9v

Yes they are both is the orange slots.

I will keep looking for a metter, and hopefully test it out.
The voltages in bios look ok though

[Sparx]

Ya it wa me who ran memtest86 and found no errors, that is the only time I have booted with only one stick of ram

http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/products/specs/TWIN2X2048-6400.pdf
I found this on the corsair websight saying it is only tested at 1.9v I will change our ram voltges back to 1.9v

Yes they are both is the orange slots.

I will keep looking for a metter, and hopefully test it out.
The voltages in bios look ok though
Well don't go by the BIOS voltages.
You will need to take a paper clip and find the green lead on the ATX connector and jumper it to any black wire on the same ATX connector. THEN turn on the power supply.

Read the 12 and 5 volts from any molex connector. (yellow blk 12 v Red blk 5v)
The 3.3 rail is read through the Orange and any black conductor or the ATX connector.

Also did you clear the CMOS after flashing to 1305?
Check to see the battery is good, when you remove it this will clear the CMOS BTW.

Just another thought, be sure the clear cmos jumper is not in the "clear" position, should be to the left side of the 3 pins.

[cmthomson]

I've been away for a while.

A couple of weeks ago someone asked if 2.3V was okay for G.Skill HZ memory running 24/7. Up until a couple of days ago I would have said yes. Now I know better: both my sticks died within a day of each other after 3 months of use.

[Sparx]

Sorry about the RAM. :(
sparx

[ThickFog]

Well don't go by the BIOS voltages.
You will need to take a paper clip and find the green lead on the ATX connector and jumper it to any black wire on the same ATX connector. THEN turn on the power supply.

Read the 12 and 5 volts from any molex connector. (yellow blk 12 v Red blk 5v)
The 3.3 rail is read through the Orange and any black conductor or the ATX connector.

Also did you clear the CMOS after flashing to 1305?
Check to see the battery is good, when you remove it this will clear the CMOS BTW.

Just another thought, be sure the clear cmos jumper is not in the "clear" position, should be to the left side of the 3 pins.
Surprisingly, I disabled fire wire, and the jimcon controller, and windows has loaded up fine, infarct i right this post from my computer.

I still think i will check out those voltages for, they still were the culprit for the bios lockups, that could return any time.

Thanks again :)

Edit: My mobo came with the 1305 bios, i never flashed them. is it worth updating to the 1503?

[cadaveca]

give it a whirl.

[pentium777]

Surprisingly, I disabled fire wire, and the jimcon controller, and windows has loaded up fine, infarct i right this post from my computer.

I still think i will check out those voltages for, they still were the culprit for the bios lockups, that could return any time.

Thanks again :)

Edit: My mobo came with the 1305 bios, i never flashed them. is it worth updating to the 1503?

Keep in mind it is still BETA, don't know how you feel with Beta bios. For me I'd rather just update my bios infrequently when I have no problems. The cold reboot is a pain however I don't have to reboot anymore except on rare occasion so I'm waiting on fully released 1503.

Oh and mine came with 1101 and has been fine with this bios.

[cuke2u]

Hi again, ok it's not the cat drivers as I'm stillgetting lockups in Fear. I've reset the memory to PC3200 but would really like to run it at PC6400. So anyone got an answer, is it timings or voltage of the modules?
ChrisC

[NghtShd]

Surprisingly, I disabled fire wire, and the jimcon controller, and windows has loaded up fine, infarct i right this post from my computer.

I still think i will check out those voltages for, they still were the culprit for the bios lockups, that could return any time.

When I ran my board with the 20-pin ATX connector I had problems with firewire and the jmicron controller. The jmicron seemed to work ok in certain configs, but if configed wrong the system wouldn't even post (even the video wouldn't init). In XP I would have 32 ieee1394 host controllers in device manager when using the 20-pin ATX.

I would check the voltage on the ATX connector pins 11, 12 and 23 (look here (http://pinouts.ru/Power/atx_v2_pinout.shtml)). If those are good then maybe the connector is bad.

[TWY]

I can't seem to find info on the following two settings: CPU Internal Thermal Control and DRAM Thermal Throttling.

Could anyone enlighten me? :)

[Sparx]

When I ran my board with the 20-pin ATX connector I had problems with firewire and the jmicron controller. The jmicron seemed to work ok in certain configs, but if configed wrong the system wouldn't even post (even the video wouldn't init). In XP I would have 32 ieee1394 host controllers in device manager when using the 20-pin ATX.

I would check the voltage on the ATX connector pins 11, 12 and 23 (look here (http://pinouts.ru/Power/atx_v2_pinout.shtml)). If those are good then maybe the connector is bad.

ThickFog
Glad you got it running. :D

Nghtshd, are you thinking the atx connector on the Power Supply is bad?
sparx

[DutchBBQ]

New: Intel Matrix Storage Manager 6.2.0.2002 WHQL BETA
Vista, XP compatible
Date: 29/09/2006

http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/Oth...002-WHQL.shtml

[SKiLL3D]

New: Intel Matrix Storage Manager 6.2.0.2002 WHQL BETA
Vista, XP compatible
Date: 29/09/2006

http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/Oth...002-WHQL.shtml
page not found

iLL

[cuke2u]

But no thanks really, so I'll cast the first stone....
Your post no 1 and its reference to Antec HE PSU's is out of date and should be removed.

Yes maybe early Antec's with certain Asus motherboards had issues, mainly the A8R-MVP, which didn't like modular PSU's. However Antec were humble enough and accepted replacing those that had problems.

Thing is you don't actually know who makes your PSU these days, it could be anybody, even Q-Tec, god forbid....

I know, for a fact, that the Neo HE 550 is actually made by Seasonic, mmmm, don't see many knocking them.

Evidence?

Here http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/370 if you care to read.

Now would somebody either help me or point me it right direction so my query is answered, please:slobber:
Chrisc

[lawrywild]

page not found

iLL

same here

[GLENBOY]

http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/Other-DRIVERS-TOOLS/Others/Intel-Matrix-Storage-Manager-6202002-WHQL.shtml

here you go Intel Matrix Storage Manager 6.2.0.2002 WHQL

[OldGuy]

But no thanks really, so I'll cast the first stone....
Your post no 1 and its reference to Antec HE PSU's is out of date and should be removed.

Yes maybe early Antec's with certain Asus motherboards had issues, mainly the A8R-MVP, which didn't like modular PSU's. However Antec were humble enough and accepted replacing those that had problems.

Thing is you don't actually know who makes your PSU these days, it could be anybody, even Q-Tec, god forbid....

I know, for a fact, that the Neo HE 550 is actually made by Seasonic, mmmm, don't see many knocking them.

Evidence?

Here http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/370 if you care to read.

Now would somebody either help me or point me it right direction so my query is answered, please:slobber:
Chrisc

Drop yer multi and start pushing and testing the ram...no way to know to tell you to give it more voltage if you haven't thoroughly tested it and found the sweet spot yourself...take it out of the equation then you can look elsewhere (like drivers).

[pentium777]

http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/Other-DRIVERS-TOOLS/Others/Intel-Matrix-Storage-Manager-6202002-WHQL.shtml

here you go Intel Matrix Storage Manager 6.2.0.2002 WHQL

BETA right?

[GLENBOY]

yes its beta working fine though just installed on mine no probs

[ThickFog]

When I ran my board with the 20-pin ATX connector I had problems with firewire and the jmicron controller. The jmicron seemed to work ok in certain configs, but if configed wrong the system wouldn't even post (even the video wouldn't init). In XP I would have 32 ieee1394 host controllers in device manager when using the 20-pin ATX.

I would check the voltage on the ATX connector pins 11, 12 and 23 (look here (http://pinouts.ru/Power/atx_v2_pinout.shtml)). If those are good then maybe the connector is bad.
I knew my luck had to end sometime.. so im getting the bios lockups again. windows restarted randomly, and now i get get past the hit tab or f8 screen.

On the 24 pin power supply cable, on the 20pin connector (not the extra 4 I have to plug in) i seam to be missing one of the pins entirely, the square is there but no cable or metal connector. Normal?

[NghtShd]

ThickFog
Glad you got it running. :D

Nghtshd, are you thinking the atx connector on the Power Supply is bad?
sparx

The board seems to be behaving similar to how mine did with the extra 12v, 5v and 3.3v connections missing. If it is a power issue then it could be the PSU or possibly the connection to the board or one of those wires.

[ThickFog]

The board seems to be behaving similar to how mine did with the extra 12v, 5v and 3.3v connections missing. If it is a power issue then it could be the PSU or possibly the connection to the board or one of those wires.
12v is the extra 4 pins in the atx connector, and the 3.3v is the one next to the cpu? were is the 5v?

Is that missing pin normal ? (post above)

[NghtShd]

12v is the extra 4 pins in the atx connector, and the 3.3v is the one next to the cpu? were is the 5v?

Is that missing pin normal ? (post above)

Yeah a missing pin 20 is normal on newer PSUs. Pin 23 is +5v, pin 11 is +12v and pin 12 is +3.3v. Of course, you shouldn't only check those, I just know my board runs without those connected at all, but is very unstable and weird acting, so I'd check them first.

[davexl]

I can't seem to find info on the following two settings: CPU Internal Thermal Control and DRAM Thermal Throttling.

Could anyone enlighten me? :)

DRAM Thermal Throttling - I think this hurts an overclock, I have always disabled it.

CPU Internal Thermal Control: does no harm to an overclock - I have 3.6GHz plus ocs that are 48hr+ Orthos stable that have this enabled. I can't see anything that it actually does, but as it might be responsible for throttling the CPU to prevent heat damage (speculation) I leave it on.

[JokerCPoC]

http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/Other-DRIVERS-TOOLS/Others/Intel-Matrix-Storage-Manager-6202002-WHQL.shtml

here you go Intel Matrix Storage Manager 6.2.0.2002 WHQL

Hey is there an XP x64 version of this driver?

[Sparx]

I was able to install the Thermalright 120 ultra as a replacement for the Big Typhoon but the Ortho Load temps dropped only a small amount from 68C to 64C which is only 7F, which is basically nothing.

The idle temps went from 42C to 36C. I have to say the mounting system of the 120 Ultra is better than the Typhoon, but this conversion was a waste in my situation, a waste of time and money.

I also received the HR-05 MCH (northbridge) thermalright heat sink but was unable to install because the hardware included does not mate up with the loops on the PW5 DH. In additon it would be a very tight fit with the big cpu heat sink so close.

I hope I can return the Hr-05 for a small restocking fee. Maybe after the AS5 burns in a little the temps will drop some, but I doubt they will. :rolleyes: If you have a BIG Typhoon with decent temps save your money and stay with it.

sparx

[TWY]

DRAM Thermal Throttling - I think this hurts an overclock, I have always disabled it.

CPU Internal Thermal Control: does no harm to an overclock - I have 3.6GHz plus ocs that are 48hr+ Orthos stable that have this enabled. I can't see anything that it actually does, but as it might be responsible for throttling the CPU to prevent heat damage (speculation) I leave it on.

Thanks.. :D

I'm quite puzzled on the DRAM throttling one though.. Wonder how this works, and I don't think there are any sensors on the RAMs to begin with.. :confused:

[triggerc]

the swiftech mcx159-cu definitely fits, and its only a little worse than the hr-05

[davexl]

I was able to install the Thermalright 120 ultra as a replacement for the Big Typhoon but the Ortho Load temps dropped only a small amount from 68C to 64C which is only 7F, which is basically nothing.

The idle temps went from 42C to 36C. I have to say the mounting system of the 120 Ultra is better than the Typhoon, but this conversion was a waste in my situation, a waste of time and money.

I also received the HR-05 MCH (northbridge) thermalright heat sink but was unable to install because the hardware included does not mate up with the loops on the PW5 DH. In additon it would be a very tight fit with the big cpu heat sink so close.

I hope I can return the Hr-05 for a small restocking fee. Maybe after the AS5 burns in a little the temps will drop some, but I doubt they will. :rolleyes: If you have a BIG Typhoon with decent temps save your money and stay with it.

sparx

I suppose it comes down to expectations - I got a 10C drop in Load temps by replacing my Typhoon with the Ultra-120. But it is replacing a great cooler with an awesome one. I don't think we will see much more dramatic gains in the future.

[ThickFog]

Well now my problem has progressed to one of three situations;

1)I get 100% stuck at the choose del or f8 screen

2)The mobo reads the ram as PC2-5200 and i get an overvoltage error forcing me into bios were all settings are fine (i use sparxs recommendations)

3) i get into windows were, i recive a random restart, with no set time variable

I also checked the voltages, everthing seams to check out. Most of the voltages are a tenth off, and about 0.11-0.3 of noise.

Arg...What can we do now...

[dmilazzo78]

Thickfog,

Reset your mobo to all stock settings and it should be fine then tweek each custom setting one by one that will lead you to your problem

Hope this helps

P.s.. your ram reads at 5200 becuase your probaly have it set to 667 set it to 800 and it will be 6400 then

[ThickFog]

Thickfog,

Reset your mobo to all stock settings and it should be fine then tweek each custom setting one by one that will lead you to your problem

Hope this helps

P.s.. your ram reads at 5200 becuase your probaly have it set to 667 set it to 800 and it will be 6400 then
Flash my bios, or just reset to defults?

Right noe my settings have my ram as ddr2-800, i still ocassionaly get the overvoltage error

[Pol1977]

I was able to install the Thermalright 120 ultra as a replacement for the Big Typhoon but the Ortho Load temps dropped only a small amount from 68C to 64C which is only 7F, which is basically nothing.

The idle temps went from 42C to 36C. I have to say the mounting system of the 120 Ultra is better than the Typhoon, but this conversion was a waste in my situation, a waste of time and money.

I also received the HR-05 MCH (northbridge) thermalright heat sink but was unable to install because the hardware included does not mate up with the loops on the PW5 DH. In additon it would be a very tight fit with the big cpu heat sink so close.

I hope I can return the Hr-05 for a small restocking fee. Maybe after the AS5 burns in a little the temps will drop some, but I doubt they will. :rolleyes: If you have a BIG Typhoon with decent temps save your money and stay with it.

sparx

I don't know what you expected, but 4 C under load is a decent difference, especially since you already had a good cooler... I wouldn't say you wasted anything.

Pity about the HR-05 though... I was thinking about getting one of those myself.

[catscit]

I don't know what you expected, but 4 C under load is a decent difference, especially since you already had a good cooler... I wouldn't say you wasted anything.

Pity about the HR-05 though... I was thinking about getting one of those myself.

use the steel bracket from the original cooler on the hr-05, works on my board.

[cuke2u]

Hi OldGuy and many thanks for your reply. I can test is with memtest right? Right now I've dropped the memory timings to 5 5 5 15. I didn't get any crashes with Fear but I will test further....
ChrisC

[Thickbrit]

cpu overvoltage error can usually be avoided by disabling vcore monitoring in the bios.

[ntvh]

thank you guys.
After twist and turn MY MB LAN1 not working any more. So I'm using LAN2. But after twist and turn again my MB sound plug not working at all. Called customer service they do some test on BIOS and they asked me to sent the MB back to them for repair it. What is the F with this MB. So many problems. Is there any better MB from ASUS that use for E6600? Thanks:confused: :mad: :nono:

[DutchBBQ]

http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/Other-DRIVERS-TOOLS/Others/Intel-Matrix-Storage-Manager-6202002-WHQL.shtml

here you go Intel Matrix Storage Manager 6.2.0.2002 WHQL

Or straight from ASUS FTP site:

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/misc/utils/IMSM_Vista_V6202002.zip

[rivlez]

this boards overclocking is very strange. i can get 3.1ghz(443x7) with my e6300 with all stock voltages but no matter what voltages I increase it will not be stable anything past that. hope they release a bios that fixes FSB wall problems, i'm sure this board can do 500+ with the right bios. anyone else run into something like this?

[Levesque]

I finally solved (a part of it...) my long boot problems. It was a faulty (or dying) hard drive.

My dealer exchange it for free for a new one, and i bought a second one to do a RAID 0 config (2X Seagate 7200.10 320Gb). When I power off/on, I'm in Windows XP in around 30 seconds!!!

But... If I reboot and don't power off/on, then it still takes around 2 minutes... or more... Sigh...

Can a "pro" explain to me what's the difference between the reboot and the power off/on cycle? What's happening in the reboot that is not happening (or is happening...) when I power the computer on?

What could explain those differences in boot time?

[Thickbrit]

this boards overclocking is very strange. i can get 3.1ghz(443x7) with my e6300 with all stock voltages but no matter what voltages I increase it will not be stable anything past that. hope they release a bios that fixes FSB wall problems, i'm sure this board can do 500+ with the right bios. anyone else run into something like this?
At 443 you have probably hit the chipsets limit,only increased cooling or voltage to the northbridge will get your fsb higher.Due to the extremely low multi/high fsb of the e6300,i'd say e6300 + p5wdh is a poor choice for overclocking.965 chipset would have been a better and cheaper option if you dont run crossfire.

[rivlez]

At 443 you have probably hit the chipsets limit,only increased cooling or voltage to the northbridge will get your fsb higher.Due to the extremely low multi/high fsb of the e6300,i'd say e6300 + p5wdh is a poor choice for overclocking.965 chipset would have been a better and cheaper option if you dont run crossfire.

i have water cooling on the northbridge and cpu and a nice cooler on the southbridge but still thats its limit. that cpu does 3.6ghz easy on my p5b deluxe.

[Thickbrit]

As you have water on the northy,you may want to try the chipset vmod and take it up to 1.9/1.95v,but if you already have 1.85v vmch in bios,it probably isn't worth it.You are pretty much near the limit anyway,mine on water with 1.95v cant 32m beyond 455.

[rivlez]

ya i'm not gonna mess with it, i think with an e6600 or higher it would be a nice board to OC with. 3.1ghz is dual prime 95 stable for 24 hours but anything higher does not pass prime 95. but anyway i'm gonna get an e6600 or a kentsfield soon.

[ThickFog]

Well now my problem has progressed to one of three situations;

1)I get 100% stuck at the choose del or f8 screen

2)The mobo reads the ram as PC2-5200 and i get an overvoltage error forcing me into bios were all settings are fine (i use sparxs recommendations)

3) i get into windows were, i recive a random restart, with no set time variable

I also checked the voltages, everthing seams to check out. Most of the voltages are a tenth off, and about 0.11-0.3 of noise.

Arg...What can we do now...
Anyone have any idea were i can proceed from here?

This is pretty depressing, bulding my first computer and nothing will work :(

Could the cpu be at fault?, Anyhelp would be greatly apprciated.

[phile]

I haven't followed your case, but it sounds like you may have a faulty power supply. I'm assuming that you have both the 20+4-pin ATX and 4-pin 12v connectors attached. Do you have the same results when running with default BIOS settings (i.e stock)?

-phil

[NghtShd]

Anyone have any idea were i can proceed from here?

This is pretty depressing, bulding my first computer and nothing will work :(

Could the cpu be at fault?, Anyhelp would be greatly apprciated.

I seriously doubt that it's the CPU.

Even though you bought a good PSU brand/model, I would swap out the PSU. If you can't borrow a good one you might consider buying one at a place with a liberal return policy. If a different PSU doesn't help or you can't aquire one for testing then RMA the board.

[Rattle]

Or straight from ASUS FTP site:

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/misc/utils/IMSM_Vista_V6202002.zip


these look like vista intel matrix drivers finally

[mikepaul]

Due to the extremely low multi/high fsb of the e6300,i'd say e6300 + p5wdh is a poor choice for overclocking.Well, not if the plan is to learn how things work then go with a Quad CPU next year. Although it may be late next year since only the Duo models will probably go down very fast...

[JokerCPoC]

I finally solved (a part of it...) my long boot problems. It was a faulty (or dying) hard drive.

My dealer exchange it for free for a new one, and i bought a second one to do a RAID 0 config (2X Seagate 7200.10 320Gb). When I power off/on, I'm in Windows XP in around 30 seconds!!!

But... If I reboot and don't power off/on, then it still takes around 2 minutes... or more... Sigh...

Can a "pro" explain to me what's the difference between the reboot and the power off/on cycle? What's happening in the reboot that is not happening (or is happening...) when I power the computer on?

What could explain those differences in boot time?

Ok a reboot is known as a warm start(hence being called a reboot) and the other is known as a cold boot where everything has to be loaded from being off. I think this describes It, Others may be able to say more as I've forgotten too much over the 26 years I've been using computers of various types to be totally sure.

[Levesque]

Thank you Joker.

I'm just trying to understand why a cold reboot is faster then a warm reboot in my case... 30 seconds for a cold reboot and more then 2 minutes for a warm reboot.

[Sparx]

I suppose it comes down to expectations - I got a 10C drop in Load temps by replacing my Typhoon with the Ultra-120. But it is replacing a great cooler with an awesome one. I don't think we will see much more dramatic gains in the future.

I gained about 6C's but I think my cooling with the Big Typhoon may have been above average.

I have a 1600 rpm 120 mm Scythe fan on it now, thought I had a 1200 on it :( so now I am even more dissatisfied than I was yesterday! :mad:

Dave, I think you have 2 fans on yours.

sparx

[Sparx]

I seriously doubt that it's the CPU.

Even though you bought a good PSU brand/model, I would swap out the PSU. If you can't borrow a good one you might consider buying one at a place with a liberal return policy. If a different PSU doesn't help or you can't aquire one for testing then RMA the board.

This is his 2nd board, I suggested he has a power supply issue some time back.
sparx

[Sparx]

I wanted to ask if anyone might have a link to a different temperature monitoring program other than "Core Temp 0.93"?

I would like to monitor from Windows with a different program and compare.

Core temp 93 provide a temp of 64C at idle today when I ran it after I got back from work! After rebooting the computer I got a temp read of 46C.

TIA
sparx

[NghtShd]

This is his 2nd board, I suggested he has a power supply issue some time back.
sparx

As did I (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1808282&postcount=1784), but I'd forgotten it was his second board. So, OK then, don't RMA the board, get another PSU. These boards seem to be particularly intolerant of power irregularities.

[Sparx]

As did I (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1808282&postcount=1784), but I'd forgotten it was his second board. So, OK then, don't RMA the board, get another PSU. These boards seem to be particularly intolerant of power irregularities.
Yes I cannot see what else it could be really. He tried one stick of RAM already. A 500 watt PS is marginal for overclocking but should work with default BIOS settings. He should be able to load Windows using Default BIOS settings. Of course I like to Disable lots of stuff in BIOS I need to be "off" after setting to Default or Optimized regardless.

I would go for a 600 watt power supply at the very minimum. Power consumpution is always increasing with these rigs. If you order from Newegg and the problem is not the PS they will at least give you a decent return option. Stay away from Directron. :nono: Or even better go to Best Buy and get a power supply they will accept without restock fees.

sparx

[lawrywild]

Updated thread.

[davexl]

I wanted to ask if anyone might have a link to a different temperature monitoring program other than "Core Temp 0.93"?

I would like to monitor from Windows with a different program and compare.

Core temp 93 provide a temp of 64C at idle today when I ran it after I got back from work! After rebooting the computer I got a temp read of 46C.

TIA
sparx

Sounds like something wasn't idling then. :)

I have never had a problem with it, but I use it very little - I use systool to read the same sensor (with a -15C offset it shows identical readings to Core Temp)

[Sparx]

I neglected to check the Processes section in Task Manager. :eek:

What do you mean by a "-15C" offset?

[davexl]

Dave, I think you have 2 fans on yours.

sparx

True - but the second really only knocks off 1.5C - barely worth it, but the reason I do it is so I can run them both at 800-1200 rpm silently, rather than one loudly.

Airflow in the case is very significant too - fixing my intake and allowing more air in the top-front of the case saves 5C. Not used to that, side intakes with a Typhoon is an easier airflow to get right. Front to back is hard.

[ThickFog]

Yes I cannot see what else it could be really. He tried one stick of RAM already. A 500 watt PS is marginal for overclocking but should work with default BIOS settings. He should be able to load Windows using Default BIOS settings. Of course I like to Disable lots of stuff in BIOS I need to be "off" after setting to Default or Optimized regardless.

I would go for a 600 watt power supply at the very minimum. Power consumpution is always increasing with these rigs. If you order from Newegg and the problem is not the PS they will at least give you a decent return option. Stay away from Directron. :nono: Or even better go to Best Buy and get a power supply they will accept without restock fees.

sparx
I think the problem is in my ram now though..

I test my psu voltages last night and everything checked out fine, most voltages were about a tenth off, and on DC current i got about 0.11-0.13.

Really bummed, The last thing I could test (should have tried before) i boot windows individually with each stick of ram. The first stick windows never fully booted would restart and get stuck on the post screen

The second stick though works fine and the computer has ran for over 4hrs without restarting.

So the first stick of ram must be the culprit

Now for another question. With my bios settings set at ddr2-800, cpu-z reads under the spd tab under 400mhz as 5.0, 5, 5, 18, 22

My ram is rated at 5,5,5,12 shoulnt it read that way

[Sparx]

I think the problem is in my ram now though..

I test my psu voltages last night and everything checked out fine, most voltages were about a tenth off, and on DC current i got about 0.11-0.13.

Really bummed, The last thing I could test (should have tried before) i boot windows individually with each stick of ram. The first stick windows never fully booted would restart and get stuck on the post screen

The second stick though works fine and the computer has ran for over 4hrs without restarting.

So the first stick of ram must be the culprit

Now for another question. With my bios settings set at ddr2-800, cpu-z reads under the spd tab under 400mhz as 5.0, 5, 5, 18, 22

My ram is rated at 5,5,5,12 shoulnt it read that way

I had asked you if you ran with one stick of RAM somewhere back in this thread - we got crossed up in our signals I guess. :confused:

Well anyway it sounds like you may have it this time. I don't want to bad mouth a particular brand of RAM but I choose OCZ or G.skill over Corsair.

Time for an RMA to Corsair.
Glad you have made progress. :D

BTW CPUZ reads my G.skill's last timing (Trc) as "1" and it should be "21". Anyway the SPD timing will not run as per specified timings - don't worry about that. After you get two new sticks of RAM you should set the timings in the BIOS and NOT use SPD.
Also I would recommend going to 1503 BIOS.

sparx

[tomx]

I just built a machine using the P5W DH Deluxe and the C2D E6700. (This is my third BYOPC... so I'm still learning quite a bit!) The machine has 2GB Corsair TWIN2X2048-8500C5 with 5-5-5-15 timings at 1066 w/ 2.2v. I have a RAID 0 cluster w/ 16K/16K stripes/clusters. I haven't really overclocked anything yet. The CPU Frequency is set at 266. The DRAM Frequency at DDR2-533. I manually set timings at the above settings. The machine runs Super-Pi in about 18 seconds currently.

I have a very capable AMD 4000+ box with a similar configuration that I use for benchmarking. I fully expected that the E6700 w/should be outperforming the older 4000+, all other things being held fairly equal. My expectation is shown accurate with Super-Pi, for example. The AMD box runs it (1M) in like 37 seconds. The E6700 comes in about 18 seconds. Just what I expected. Super-Pi is obviously a very CPU intensive task, I would assume.

Here's where the weirdness comes in. I have a program that I wrote that performs a task for me. It's both disk and processor intensive. The first time I ran it on the E6700 box, it completed in about 36 minutes. Compare this to the AMD box's best of 51 minutes. Nice. As expected. The second and most of the subsequent runs of this program on the E6700 box, however, yielded worse times, frequently around 1 hour and 6 minutes. That's worse than the AMD box. That is NOT expected. Why are my run times varying? I'd guess I've run this program about 10 times. 2 of the ten times it ran in about 36 minutes, the rest around an hour.

Any ideas what is going on here? I've tried to minimize the number of programs that are being loaded, but still have some work to do there. Also, the memory timings for the DDR-400 for the AMD box are lower (3-3-3-8) than the 5-5-5-15 of the E6700. Some sites say that I can get lower timings on my RAM, but I can't figure out how to get that to work. Learning certainly is fun.

[dmilazzo78]

thickfog,

glad to here you found the problem make sure you verify that the slot on the mobo is not the problem by putting the known good ram stick in that slot and running it that way.

The the reason you see 400mhz in that spd program is normal its dual channel each channel runs at 400mhz for a grand total of 800mhz per stick so that is fine Mine reads the same way stumped me for awhile

Good Luck

[Sparx]

thickfog,

glad to here you found the problem make sure you verify that the slot on the mobo is not the problem by putting the known good ram stick in that slot and running it that way.

The the reason you see 400mhz in that spd program is normal its dual channel each channel runs at 400mhz for a grand total of 800mhz per stick so that is fine Mine reads the same way stumped me for awhile

Good Luck
Didn't know he was questioning the 400 mhz reading thought it was the timings.

[dmilazzo78]

Try to reset your timing and make sure to f10 and save I know it sounds simple but its a good place to start

[Mxtra]

I had this wierd problem with my pc that apparently nobody else on earth has experienced: The second core would stop working after a few days of leaving my pc on. Sometimes even only a few hours after turning my pc on. I searched with google through many pc enthusiasts sites such as this one and couldn't find anything regarding this. I tried doing a fresh installation of windows and reinstalling the cpu into the mobo and it didn't help. I found a fix for it by perusing through this site. Someone wanted to benchmark how fast their cpu could do superpi or something like that with one core going 100% and the second core unused. someone told him to go to run and type msconfig, click on boot.ini and then advanced options. select numproc= and then type in 1. So I did that but typed in 2. It's been at least a week of running my pc 24/7 and the second core hasn't stopped working yet so I think this fixed my problem. Since I put my pc together it's never gone more than three days without the second core crapping out. Just wanted to mention it in case someone else had the same problem.

[dmilazzo78]

How could you tell 1 of your cores wasn't working ? did you get an error message or something ?

[Mxtra]

i'd do video encoding with multithreaded apps and the cpu usage in the task manager would show 50%. first core maxed out and second core nothing. i'd reboot and both cores would work like normal until it happened again several hours or days later. this happened half a dozen times before i decided something was wrong. i initially thought my overclock was unstable and was causing this but then it happened again three hours after a fresh install of windows with my pc at stock speed. i've stress tested my pc and it's rock solid. it's really a mystery, but i'm happy with it now.

[lawrywild]

Strange..

[tomx]

As I mentioned a few posts back, my E6700 behaves a strangely. Sometimes it runs my test program very fast, 80% of the rest of the time, it runs it more slowly. There's something weird here. It may come down to how the OS is deciding to use the dual processors, depending on other loads on the system. Regardless, it's not good.

[rpr]

I've been following this thread for a long time but it is getting difficult to keep up.

Is there a consensus on the best cooling solutions for an overclocked air cooled setup???

Ultra 120 for CPU? I'm clueless on NB and SB solutions. Any help?

[Sparx]

I've been following this thread for a long time but it is getting difficult to keep up.

Is there a consensus on the best cooling solutions for an overclocked air cooled setup???

Ultra 120 for CPU? I'm clueless on NB and SB solutions. Any help?
Right off if you get the Ultra 120 over the Thermaltake Big Typhoon it will be to your benefit. I think the costs are the same since the stock fan with the Big Typhoon is not good enough and needs a substitute. The mounting system to the motherboard of the Ultra 120 is superior by a long shot. But the Ultra 120 is larger and may require a push-pull fan arrangement to get the best results. I am going to reconfigure my Ultra 120 fan(s) today with a push - pull system using 2 Scythe 1200 rpm 49 cfm fans, instead of one 1600 rpm 60 cfm fans.

As far a the northbridge is concerned the HR-05 does not fit due to height and does not include the proper attachment hardware for the Pw5 DH anyway.

So on the NB cooler I have replaced the factory TIM with AS5 and placed a small fan on top of the HS attaching it with hot glue. When running with the fan the max temp I got with a probe laying inside the heat sink fins at the base was 35c-36c (loaded).

If someone has a better MCH (NB) cooling solution I would like to know about it myself.

sparx

[triggerc]

If someone has a better MCH (NB) cooling solution I would like to know about it myself.
I have the swiftech mcx159-cu on the NB with AS5, it hasn't completely cured yet, but I've already been able to gain 20 more mhz. It comes with clips for the board, but i took the clip off of the stock heatsink and used that instead.

[JokerCPoC]

Anyone here use the Thermalright HR-05-SLI nb hs and two 7800GTX cards(each card takes up two slots, Ones a DELL and the Other is Leadtek and except for the label they look a like) on the P5W DH Deluxe?

[DAK1640]

I couldn't allow the largest thread in the forum to go without one of my posts. Finally figured out most of this mobo...:toast: :toast:

[Pol1977]

As far a the northbridge is concerned the HR-05 does not fit due to height and does not include the proper attachment hardware for the Pw5 DH anyway.

How is height a problem?
Did you try using the attaching pin that is on the stock heatsink to attach the HR-05?

[GLENBOY]

Strange..
congrats lawry over 200,000 views of your asus thread :clap:

[Sparx]

How is height a problem?
Did you try using the attaching pin that is on the stock heatsink to attach the HR-05?
No I did not try the asus clip from the factory HS.
Height was an issue because it hits the 120 Ultra.
sparx

[msgclb]

The TankGuys have a combo bundle that includes an Asus P5W DH Deluxe and a Core 2 Duo E6400 with a revision verification that the motherboard serial #s will start with 68. Reviewing this thread the only change mentioned that I could find is a 1.85v mch. Does anybody know what changes were made to these motherboards with the 68 serial # that the TankGuys would give this revision verification? I only spotted one owner of a 69 serial # in this thread. Is this combo of an E6400 and P5WDH a good buy?

[Pjoeloe]

don`t know where to put his , ahh well

here is the world first performance test of a 8800gtx : : http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4812

[lawrywild]

congrats lawry over 200,000 views of your asus thread :clap:

Yeh man, stoked, cheers bro :toast:

[fornowagain]

congrats lawry over 200,000 views of your asus thread :clap:
Cool, nice one:toast:

[kevsta112003]

I have e6400 at 3Ghz.

About What should the FSB termination voltage, MCH voltage, ICH voltage, be when the FSB is 375 and Vcore is 1.375?

[Mykou]

:clap: :woot:

[Sparx]

congrats lawry over 200,000 views of your asus thread :clap:
:D
:toast:
sparx

[davexl]

I've been following this thread for a long time but it is getting difficult to keep up.

Is there a consensus on the best cooling solutions for an overclocked air cooled setup???

Ultra 120 for CPU? I'm clueless on NB and SB solutions. Any help?

As Sparx said, Ultra 120 is a very good choice. I would not bother with modding the NB and SB - stick a low RPM 120mm fan near them and make sure you have good airflow in your case and you don't need to modify anything if like me you are only using under 430FSB to do around 3600 - 3700 MHz with 6600s. If you were heading over 450 FSB with a 6400 I would start to think about special cooling mods for the NB/SB...

[rpr]

Sparx & davexl:

Thanks for the cooling info. Looks like I saw your posts a bit too late though.

I'm good on the CPU...I ordered the Ultra 120. However, I also ordered the HR-05. Sounds like they won't work together based on Sparx's comments. Not good.

[Sparx]

Sparx & davexl:

Thanks for the cooling info. Looks like I saw your posts a bit too late though.

I'm good on the CPU...I ordered the Ultra 120. However, I also ordered the HR-05. Sounds like they won't work together based on Sparx's comments. Not good.
Aside from the fact that the included brackets won't work, it is very tight because of the locale of the MCH or NB chip.

You can mod the hold down, that's no big deal but clearance is another issue.
Don't feel bad I got one I hope to return even if there is a restocking charge.

I am using the stock MCH HS with as5 applied and I hot glued a radio shack 40 mm fan to the top, which barely fits BtW. Right now I have about 82F ambient and am running Ortho and the temps from a temp probe are 38F at the base of the HS. The fan is a little loud so I am going to try the 7volt trick and see if this quiets down the fan but provides enough air flow to do a decent job. I feel the HS is decent, just needs a fan on it.

sparx

[phillai]

I'm a newbie-ish overclocker and I'm slowly learning about my Asus P5W DH mobo but can someone explain to me what the memory divider does?

I keep hearing people hear go on about it but I have no idea where it is in the bios or and how I can access it?

I currently have my Intel Core 2 DUO E6300 overclocked from 266 fsb to 400 but anything after that, the memory speeds are a little screwed?

My memory is GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC6400C4 800MHz Ultra Low Latency DDR2 Dual Channel Kit.
My current overclocked set up has my memory at 800Mhz at the moment but When I overclock my PC is it OK to go over 800Mhz a touch?
The next step down is something like 600Mhz...

I really do wanna go over the 3Ghz barrier on air... Currently stuck at 2.8Ghz!

Another thing I need to ask is this - Have you guys been experiencing a weird like raspberry (almost like light) speaker noise that goes off every now and then? Sometimes it's constant like every few seconds and sometimes it's every 30 seconds. It's really frustrating and I don't know what the hell it is or how to get rid of it! :(
Switching the PC off fully and back on again seems to cure it.

One final question... Vcore, what's max setting for this? I'm sure mine is set at 1.5125 or summat like that. Is that too much?

Thanks to all replies in advance!

[Fr3ak]

Memory dividers let the memory run at several ratios, so you are not stuck with running it sync with the Front Side Bus.

You can set memory dividers in the same menu you can change the FSB.
The speed displayed is the theoretical speed of the ram. For example if it says 800Mhz when you are running a 400Mhz FSB, the real speed of your ram is 400mhz, thus you are running the memory 1:1.
Now if you think your ram is limiting you to get higher, chose a smaller ram divider, for example 2:3, which would be displayed as 600mhz with a real speed of 300Mhz.

What vcore you can run, depends on your cooling and temps. I have high end watercooling, but I dont use more than 1.45V for long term usage anyway.

And the P5W wasnt maybe the best choice to oc a E6300. 400Mhz is already not bad for the P5W and I doubt you wont see much more than 450Mhz.
Have you raised the VMCH voltage? Let FSB termination voltage at auto and disable Hyperpath3 if you havent already.

[NghtShd]

I'm a newbie-ish overclocker and I'm slowly learning about my Asus P5W DH mobo but can someone explain to me what the memory divider does?

[snip]

My current overclocked set up has my memory at 800Mhz at the moment but When I overclock my PC is it OK to go over 800Mhz a touch?
The next step down is something like 600Mhz...
That's the memory divider you are stepping the memory up and down with.
Another I need to ask is have you guys been experiencing a weird like raspberry (almost like light) speaker noise that goes off every now and then? Sometimes it's constant like every few seconds and sometimes it's every 30 seconds. It's really frustrating and I don't know what the hell it is! :(
Sounds like it's picking up noise from something either inside or outside of the system. I've heard noise on mine when my daughter's cell phone was nearby.
One final question... Vcore, what's max setting for this? I'm sure mine is set at 1.5125 or summat like that. Is that too much?
It's a lot. Do you have a good cooler? Try to find the lowest Vcore you can use and still have a stable system @ a given speed.

[phillai]

Thanks for the prompt replies guys.

Seriously, where is this memory divider thing? I can't find it anywhere!
And do I benefit at all if I do change it?

And when people are saying stuff like 1:1 and 4:5 are they talking of fsb/memory first or over way around?

The vcore sounds really high from what I've set it as and what you guys are mentioning. I'll turn it right down but what is acceptable? I've only got system fan at the front, papst fan at the back and an artic freezer 7 pro for my cpu cooler.

Hyperpath3 is disabled along with everything else on that page in the bios except for microcode which is enabled but I'm not sure what that does

VMCH and FSB is set to max. Any reason why fsb should be auto?
Let me know!

[Pol1977]

No I did not try the asus clip from the factory HS.
Height was an issue because it hits the 120 Ultra.
sparx

Maybe the SLI version of the HR-05 would clear the 120?

[NghtShd]

phillai,

The memory divider is the DRAM frequency setting is where you said you had the memory on 800MHz and the next step down is "something like 600Mhz". The ratio is FSB:DRAM.

I currently have my FSB @ 333MHz and the DRAM frequncy @ 666MHz. Since this is DDR memory, you divide the memory freq. in half and get 333MHz or a 1:1 ratio. (Your FSB is 400MHz and the DRAM 800MHz so you are also using the 1:1 divider.) If I use the 4:5 divider I'd get: 5/4*333*2 = ~833MHz. It might be nice if the DRAM feq. setting would parenthetically show the divider next to the DDR freq.

As for what to set the Vcore to, just off the top of my head, try ~1.4v as a starting point. I like to find a setting I can boot to XP but error pretty quickly in Orthos or dual Prime95's and then work my way up from there. What works best for you will mostly depend on your particular chip and your cooler. You could start where you are and work your way down, but at ~1.5v you're going to want to check your temps when the CPU is loaded.

Disabling Hyperpath is advised. No idea about the FSB termination voltage. VMCH is at what? 1.85v? You may need to leave that there to maintain your current FSB speed. I believe I have both of these on auto, but my FSB isn't OCed that much.

[Pol1977]

How much voltage does the MCH need in order to be overclocked? Is auto 1.55V? I have to increase it to 1.65V in order to have a stable 400MHz bus. Is that normal? I have to increase it even more if I want to go above 400. Is that normal? How much voltage can it take and work 24/7? Does changing the stock cooling help?

So many questions ;)

But I thinks it is good to clear things up regarding the MCH...

[daos]

well my motherboard goes all the way up to 1.85vcmh. i think thats ok as long as you have adaquate cooling in your case which is pretty much any case nowadays.

[triggerc]

if you are pushing the MCH way up it is advisable for you to get better NB cooling. HR-05, extreme spirit II, and swiftech mcx159-cu are a couple of good ones to look into.

[phillai]

Thanks NghtShd for your explanation on memory. I think I've got it now, I think!
But my geil memory is rated PC6400 800Mhz memory.
Would I be knacking up my memory if I go overclock and go over 800Mhz?
And from what I said before, what performance decrease (or increase) if I drop to the divider to show that the memory is 600Mhz?

Oh to the other guy. My MCH will only go upto 1.65. I got an early revision serial number 66 (at the beginning) which was disappointing for me... :(

[JokerCPoC]

Anyone here use the Thermalright HR-05-SLI nb hs and two 7800GTX cards(each card takes up two slots, Ones a DELL and the Other is Leadtek and except for the label they look a like) on the P5W DH Deluxe?
Well I found out that My video cards and the HR-05-SLI nb hs aren't compatible on this motherboard. :(

[Sparx]

if you are pushing the MCH way up it is advisable for you to get better NB cooling. HR-05, extreme spirit II, and swiftech mcx159-cu are a couple of good ones to look into.
Be careful with the HR-05 it won't fit due to clearance issues with CPU coolers and video cards, as experienced by myself and others on this thread. ;)
sparx

[kevsta112003]

for an e6400 OC'd at 3Ghz, what do you guys recommend the MCH voltage be set at? I have it at 1.55, but sometimes I get these really odd restarts that occur when the CPU is under minimal load, and I was wondering if maybe not enough volts are being pumped to the MCH because I dont know much about it.

is 1.55V at 375x8 enough???

[Sparx]

for an e6400 OC'd at 3Ghz, what do you guys recommend the MCH voltage be set at? I have it at 1.55, but sometimes I get these really odd restarts that occur when the CPU is under minimal load, and I was wondering if maybe not enough volts are being pumped to the MCH because I dont know much about it.

is 1.55V at 375x8 enough???
Try it at 1.65.
Did you remove the tin covers from the two bridge heat sinks to allow more air circulation?
I did - you should. They are attached with sticky stuff applied to the foil.
sparx

[tjelaw]

Hi guys, i've already posted this in the "making ur p5w ready guide"-thread, but I'll just post it here again just to be sure.

***
I remounted my NB heatsink with AS5 and now my mobo doenst want to power on. The green LED is lit, but it doenst respond in any way to the power switch. No fans spinning, no beeps, literally nothing. Anyone got some suggestions?

I tried:
- The mobo with only the cpu, mem installed.
- Tried inside my casing and also outside my casing(on a cardboard, so the mobo isnt short-circuited by the case)
- Checked both ATX & 4pin power connector.
- Checked the power button of my case, tried with the reset button and also manually connecting the power on pins.

:( cud use some tips and help

[Sparx]

ATM the only thing I can think of is did you clear the CMOS?
Do you have a different power supply to use?
sparx

[kevsta112003]

Try it at 1.65.
Did you remove the tin covers from the two bridge heat sinks to allow more air circulation?
I did - you should. They are attached with sticky stuff applied to the foil.
sparx

I'll give that a shot and see if it fixes it. The restarts are so random though, its only happened 3 or 4 times in I think about a month. At what voltage does it req cooling?

And yeah I removed those caps on the SB and NB. My mobo temp is in mid 30's and barely breaks 40 when I load my video cards according to speedfan

[Haltech]

I'll give that a shot and see if it fixes it. The restarts are so random though, its only happened 3 or 4 times in I think about a month. At what voltage does it req cooling?

And yeah I removed those caps on the SB and NB. My mobo temp is in mid 30's and barely breaks 40 when I load my video cards according to speedfan

I had the same problem before i upgraded to 1503. I then kicked the voltage up one notch. Its been rock solid stable since.

[Sparx]

I'll give that a shot and see if it fixes it. The restarts are so random though, its only happened 3 or 4 times in I think about a month. At what voltage does it req cooling?

And yeah I removed those caps on the SB and NB. My mobo temp is in mid 30's and barely breaks 40 when I load my video cards according to speedfan
I have my MCH at 1.65v and it does require active cooling in my opinion, when I put a finger on it without the fan running it is hot, about 70c according to my temp probe. It stays around 37c with the 40mm fan running.

sparx

[BobyTT]

I there a new BIOS supporting Q6700 and his unlocked multi? From what i read from Shamino , when you play with multi upwards only one of the cores is responding...

[tjelaw]

ATM the only thing I can think of is did you clear the CMOS?
Do you have a different power supply to use?
sparx


WTF, I have a Antec Neopower480, never did anything strange to it.... Anyways, I just unpacked my sisters newly arrived Antec Sonata II casing with a Smartpower 2.0 450W PSU and my mobo powered up!!

what the hell

[msgclb]

I remounted my NB heatsink with AS5 and now my mobo doenst want to power on. ... Anyone got some suggestions?

You didn't use to much AS5 and short something out under the NB? Since this is the last thing you did before your mobo troubles I'd remove the NB heatsink and see what's under it.

[lawrywild]

WTF, I have a Antec Neopower480, never did anything strange to it.... Anyways, I just unpacked my sisters newly arrived Antec Sonata II casing with a Smartpower 2.0 450W PSU and my mobo powered up!!

what the hell

I guess you didn't read the front page :rolleyes:

[tjelaw]

I guess you didn't read the front page :rolleyes:

I did :D but that was about NeoHE's :P its a diffirent series + no real explanation is given why not to use them.

And everything worked fine for 2months with that neopower480 psu, anyways, shall get an OCZ now :)

[Khaotic]

Hit and miss with every component it seems.
I'm running a NEO 550-HE in my current box filled with--

P5W DH Deluxe w/ E6600 @ 3.3 (1.55vCore)
2GB of Corsair 6400
eVGA 7950GX2
Toshiba DVD-ROM
Samsun DVD-R/W
UltraDDC Waterpump
6x 120mm fans (3 on the HE120.3 RAD)

Nothing abnormal to report power wise.

[msgclb]

neopower480 psuDoesn't that video card hold the distinction of being an extremely high power user. I'd bet a 550 Watt PSU isn't enough.

[tjelaw]

Doesn't that video card hold the distinction of being an extremely high power user. I'd bet a 550 Watt PSU isn't enough.

Just checked, the box of the gfx card says 450Watt or higher recommended :D hehehe... cud have been the problem if I only have 480 and running 4HD's, 1.6vcore and 2.4 on RAM etc. + fans :) I didnt even have my 25W Delta-beast-fan connected hehe.

I see I still have warranty on my PSU btw, but the shop only has Tagan or Antec Truepower III, no OCZ :( (fanboy) whats the best of these 2 u reckon?

Yes I know theres a seperate PSU section hehe

[Sparx]

I would not get an Antec and I am not familiar with the other.

I had a power supply fiasco last week when a 12 or so day old Thermaltake 750 Toughpower blew out and remained on! My rig was running but the PS was not supplying power to any of the drives! 12 volt rails were dead. We were having dinner at the time, and smelled something burning, it was not our dinner.

So I purchased a PC power and Cooling 750 watt power supply from Newegg for $199.00 and now things are running fine. It would have been a disaster if my video card, and drives, and even the MB were cooked by a POS PS. :shock: :dammit:

And of course I lose return shipping costs and most likely 2.5% because I purchased with some cash I had in Pay Pal. :slapass: Oh well...

Buyer beware!
sparx

[Qba73]

anyone notice they tweaked the text on the bios page for the board.

original text: BootBug bei hohem FSB behoben -

Added text: am 3.11.06 noch Beta-Version. Lief bei mir nicht. Zurück nach 1407: OK

did they tweak 1503?

http://wiki.p5wdh.de/doku.php?id=downloads:bios

[brock01]

does anyone else have problems when playing games that it will just skip randomly

i have read others that have the same problem and it really sucks when gaming cause thats when its noticeable

happends like maybe once a min
using the latest update from asus
does with no oc, or with ocing

[TWY]

Is the SPD bug still there above 360/370-ish FSB with the latest BIOSes/boards? :confused:

[catscit]

anyone notice they tweaked the text on the bios page for the board.

original text: BootBug bei hohem FSB behoben -

Added text: am 3.11.06 noch Beta-Version. Lief bei mir nicht. Zurück nach 1407: OK

did they tweak 1503?

http://wiki.p5wdh.de/doku.php?id=downloads:bios

translation:

on 11-3-06 still beta version. Didn't run on mine. Back to 1407: OK

I have no problems playing games, but when i run vmware onboard sound start breaking up.
Also, when benching the raid 0 i sometimes get really low scores, like something is holding it back.

Sounds like a bandwitdh problem to me, now i know why i was running dual opterons before on a tyan k8we before...

SPD bug still in 1503 for me, also, couldn't ez-flash from 1407 to 1503, had to use the dos disk method.
Doesn't clock a mhz higher as well, i'm stuck with a slow cpu.

[cuke2u]

Hi, some of you need to read my post again about the Antec Neo 550 PSU. It is made by seasonic and is more than adequate even for a XT1900XT-X. I have had one running now for over six months, previously on a A8R32-MVP with a XT1900XT-X and four hard drives. Playing games fine with no issues whatsoever. What's on page one is a out and out lie and should be removed or updated so it reproduces the facts.
The PSU is one of the recommended 'crossfire' PSU's by ATI, all the tests conducted by independant hardware site, read here, says they are ok. http://www.antec.com/NeoHEawards.html
ChrisC

[Timmaah]

I would not get an Antec and I am not familiar with the other.

I had a power supply fiasco last week when a 12 or so day old Thermaltake 750 Toughpower blew out and remained on! My rig was running but the PS was not supplying power to any of the drives! 12 volt rails were dead. We were having dinner at the time, and smelled something burning, it was not our dinner.

So I purchased a PC power and Cooling 750 watt power supply from Newegg for $199.00 and now things are running fine. It would have been a disaster if my video card, and drives, and even the MB were cooked by a POS PS. :shock: :dammit:

And of course I lose return shipping costs and most likely 2.5% because I purchased with some cash I had in Pay Pal. :slapass: Oh well...

Buyer beware!
sparx

ive got the thermaltake 750w toughpower cable management since i i think little over a month, infact my pc has been on now for over two weeks straight and no problems whatsoever. Sounds like you just got unlucky.

[DutchBBQ]

New: BIOS 1601 BETA
Download from:
http://web54.nsi24.miniserver.de/wbb2/attachment.php?attachmentid=124

New feature under chipsets: Memory Remap Feature, for 64-bit OS

Or download from:
http://wiki.p5wdh.de/doku.php?id=downloads:bios

[Sparx]

ive got the thermaltake 750w toughpower cable management since i i think little over a month, infact my pc has been on now for over two weeks straight and no problems whatsoever. Sounds like you just got unlucky.
Yes I got a bad one. I did call Thermaltake direct and never heard back though. :(

sparx

[Timmaah]

thats a shame :( guess they got lousy customer support, this new bios.. anything else apart for this memory feature for 64-bit os's ?

[GLENBOY]

anybody on the 1601 bios yet

[Lambert]

Originally Posted by phillai
Another thing I need to ask is this - Have you guys been experiencing a weird like raspberry (almost like light) speaker noise that goes off every now and then? Sometimes it's constant like every few seconds and sometimes it's every 30 seconds. It's really frustrating and I don't know what the hell it is or how to get rid of it! :(

Are you using a ferrite core? Normally they are used on the front port wires. usb, firewire, headphone, and mic etc. because they are quite long, and there are a lot of them they can on some occasions, cause interference.

All a ferrite core does is to help reduce the occurrences of electro magnetic waves. When wires are bundled together, they will create electro magnetic fields. It's almost like making an antenna.

This is my first post. So Hello to you all :)

[SKiLL3D]

anybody on the 1601 bios yet
they added only a BIOS option for Memory Remapping on 64bit Systems - so i'll pass on this one.

Gimme C1E/EIST-independent VcoreSetting!!!!1 DAMN!

iLL

[The Nemesis]

does anyone else have problems when playing games that it will just skip randomly

i have read others that have the same problem and it really sucks when gaming cause thats when its noticeable

happends like maybe once a min
using the latest update from asus
does with no oc, or with ocing
Mine would randomly freeze while gaming. It got so irritating I moved my router to my game room and used the onboard nics.

[DutchBBQ]

these look like vista intel matrix drivers finally

As long as it's not available at Intel's download site, it should be considered as BETA.
However, I suppose that ASUS is providing this beta version because it solves not specified problems.
Please take into account that Asus's Intel Matrix Storage Manager 6.2.0.2002 WHQLis compatible with both Vista AND XP:
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/misc/utils/IMSM_Vista_V6202002.zip

It works fine on my P5W HD Deluxe XP SP2 system (SATA-2, ACHI)

[Psitech]

I've got a strange problem that started yesterday. Everything was working perfectly Sat night, but when I woke up Sunday morning I noticed that my machine had rebooted during the middle of the night and there was an error message with my spyware doctor. I clicked to close the error and my machine rebooted. After the reboot I got a general windows error message and the machine rebooted again. This happened 3 times.

I then went into the bios and loaded defaults and let the computer reboot again. This time the computer didn't want to restart. I had to completely power it down and let it come back up. When booting the time it didn't make it to the windows logo before rebooting again (this was at all stock settings). I then went back into the bios and set the voltage to my ram at 2.0 and for the cpu 1.3. It booted fine this time.

I was now back into windows and decided to run orthos. Orthos failed on core 1 after about 12 seconds. I then decided to reboot and set the bios back the way I had it previously overclocked. Voltages for the ram was 2.2 and 1.5375 for the cpu. Everything booted and seemed fine and even Orthos ran for about 10 minutes with no problem.

I stepped away to eat dinner thinking that all was good to go. I came back to play one of my games (trackmania nations) and the game would not load and gave an error. I uninstalled the game and reinstalled and it still gave the error. I then rebooted and backed off my overclock a good bit and still the game would not load. I then ran orthos and once again it failed after about 20 seconds or so.

This all happened overnight. I can't think of anything that would cause a problem (no storms or anything). I'm leaning toward my power supply as it's about the only thing that wasn't replaced in my new build. I'm also going to try the new beta bios when I get home from work to see if this helps anything.

You guys have any ideas?

[mikepaul]

You guys have any ideas?My Corsair RAM didn't want to be overclocked as high as I could take the CPU, which only showed up when I used Orthos, so maybe your RAM has developed a similar but not-just-overclocked problem...

[Sparx]

I've got a strange problem that started yesterday. Everything was working perfectly Sat night, but when I woke up Sunday morning I noticed that my machine had rebooted during the middle of the night and there was an error message with my spyware doctor. I clicked to close the error and my machine rebooted. After the reboot I got a general windows error message and the machine rebooted again. This happened 3 times.

I then went into the bios and loaded defaults and let the computer reboot again. This time the computer didn't want to restart. I had to completely power it down and let it come back up. When booting the time it didn't make it to the windows logo before rebooting again (this was at all stock settings). I then went back into the bios and set the voltage to my ram at 2.0 and for the cpu 1.3. It booted fine this time.

I was now back into windows and decided to run orthos. Orthos failed on core 1 after about 12 seconds. I then decided to reboot and set the bios back the way I had it previously overclocked. Voltages for the ram was 2.2 and 1.5375 for the cpu. Everything booted and seemed fine and even Orthos ran for about 10 minutes with no problem.

I stepped away to eat dinner thinking that all was good to go. I came back to play one of my games (trackmania nations) and the game would not load and gave an error. I uninstalled the game and reinstalled and it still gave the error. I then rebooted and backed off my overclock a good bit and still the game would not load. I then ran orthos and once again it failed after about 20 seconds or so.

This all happened overnight. I can't think of anything that would cause a problem (no storms or anything). I'm leaning toward my power supply as it's about the only thing that wasn't replaced in my new build. I'm also going to try the new beta bios when I get home from work to see if this helps anything.

You guys have any ideas?

I would set it up with one stick of RAM at at time and try each stick in each slot, see what happens with Orthos.
Another guy up the thread went back and forth with the PS as suspect and found his Corsair was the issue.

You can check back a few pages and read on it > thickfog is his handle.
jim

[Psitech]

I'll try using one stick at a time when I get home and check the results. I'm not sure why I didn't think of that. I'll post my results later this evening.

[Sparx]

I'll try using one stick at a time when I get home and check the results. I'm not sure why I didn't think of that. I'll post my results later this evening.
Well, we all forget something, when I have a problem I seem to lose the ability to go through all the simple steps myself and overlook the obvious. :rolleyes:

Let us know please.
sparx

[GLENBOY]

installed 1601 bios seems ok has the option for 64 bit operating system as already mentioned above, also bootup screen where it shows onboard devices is a bit different but seems ok

[cadaveca]

can ya post memset pic of new bios, pls?

[lawrywild]

can ya post memset pic of new bios, pls?

memset timings vary with which dividers/chipset strap your running so why do you want it. It won't be any different to any other bios i'd imagine..

[Sparx]

I am getting a high pitch ( I mean high) from my Aw5 when I am on the internet. At first I thought it was my WD hard drive, but mostly certain it is not. I do still have the side covers off the case right now still working on the overclock.

Anyone else have this, I have come across this before with others using other motherboards in the past, but not with the Asus Pw5 Dh.

sparx

[brock01]

i wish they would do something about the wireless randomly freezing problem
really sucks and i cant using the nic cause its to far away from router, so you have to play with it and i get killed (cod2) cause i cant see for that split second :(

[aquiel]

I´m receiving this parts in order to
assemble a litle system, but I have
a litle to no knowledge in this matter

C2D E6600 Conroe 2.4 Ghz / Zalman CNPS 9500 LED
Asus P5W DH Deluxe
1GB OCZ Platinum EL XTC PC2 6400
MSI X1900XT/Accelero X2 Cooler
Barracuda 320 GB Sata2

chasis fan Foxcon 120 mm
¿? 2X 100 mm

my question is if my PSU, (PR switching power supply, model LCK550W, dual fan)
(cheap, came with my case, a MPC, cheap too, but well ventilated)

will work fine under load. I´m planning to overclock a litle, let´s say a 25%,
to get the 3 Ghz , in order to do some gaming but renderizing and editing photos also
I live in Cuba, so the weather its hot and wet :) , big percent of humidity,
my room isn´t too hot , in the other hand

I have some Internet conection problems, so forgive me if you already answer this question, but I can´t
get , even I want and I need, the complete thread of the asus P5W DH.

sorry for the inconvenience, and thanks for your help, any advice will be highly appreciated in this or
other matter (temps, compatibility issues, etc)

ah and sorry for my bad english

[Psitech]

Well, we all forget something, when I have a problem I seem to lose the ability to go through all the simple steps myself and overlook the obvious. :rolleyes:

Let us know please.
sparx

I just wanted to give you guys an update on my situation. I haven't tested switching out the memory yet. I left the machine unplugged all day while I was at work. I powered it back up with everything at stock and so far Orthos has run 30mins on both cores (blend test) with no errors (it's still running).

I'm going to gradually raise back up to my overclocked levels and test as I go. If I run into any problems on the way, I'll pull a stick of ram out and test them one by one.

I'm thinking that I'll also give the new bios a shot and see if that helps.

[DigitalTrance]

Could this board be burning up my ati cards? Ive had a x1900xtx and x1950xtx both go out on me after a few weeks on this board with everything set to auto. Any ideas on this one? They still kinda work, just cant do 3d without a complete hardware lockup.

[Strikez]

anybody on the 1601 bios yet

I have tried 1601 and have nt noticed any difference from 1503. Mind you I am not overclocking very high.

[ntvh]

for 64 bits. No thanks

[Pol1977]

Could this board be burning up my ati cards? Ive had a x1900xtx and x1950xtx both go out on me after a few weeks on this board with everything set to auto. Any ideas on this one? They still kinda work, just cant do 3d without a complete hardware lockup.

I have just had the same problem! My ATI X1950XTX started showing artifacts while in 3D mode yesterday and then locking up. After some reboots and removals/reinstallations of the card and drivers the card started showing artifacts (extensive!!!) from the very beginning of booting my pc, even before windows loads.

I'm taking it back to the store today to be replaced. It is 1 1/2 months old and has only worked on my P5W DH Deluxe.

[cuke2u]

brock01, are you using the latest drivers from realtek. I have no such problems with my wireless whatsoever.....
ChrisC

[brock01]

yes im using the latest drivers

[Pluppo]

I have had some problems trying to run a X1950CF and a X1900XT in crossfire with this board. I was running the X1900XT by itself with no problems with E6600 @ 3200 (400FSB, 1:1 RAM). Orthos for 16 hours with no errors, and system stable for a couple of weeks running all sorts of applications.

I lapped my E6600 and used Artic Silver 5 on it, as well as on the chipset coolers. I used AS5's instructions for dual core CPU's and applied a thin line down the middle of the E6600. Unfortunately, there was no temperature drop after this.

When I put in the X1950CF, the pc started rebooting or locking up when running 3D apps, so I thought this was a power supply issue. I tried lots of different drivers, and tried each card individually. I also went back to stock speeds for the E6600, but could still not run crossfire without getting reboots. I also did a lot of research on my PSU, and I believe that it should be powerful enough.

After a couple of days, the board wouldn't even POST! No beep, no video, all fans speed up & and small noise from my HDD, then nothing. So I took everything apart and tried to boot with only the P5W, E6600 and PSU. Still nothing. So I took off my Big Typhoon and saw that the thermal paste didn't look very well applied. I removed it and applied it again using a clean razor blade, and got a smooth thin layer on it.

After doing this, the PC booted, coretemp was showing that the CPU was 10 degrees cooler, and crossfire worked!! No more reboots or lockups at stock speeds. Then I tried OC'ing back to 3.2GHz with 400FSB, and the reboots are back when 3D apps are running.

I've been meaning to try OC'ing again in small steps and see if I can find a stable clock, but I'm realling confused about what is causing these reboots.

Any advise would be much appreciated.

[cuke2u]

Hi again brock01, I guess you've made sure there's no hardware conflict such as a PCI card, do you run crossfire?
Have you made sure that all other devices not in use have been disabled in the bios?
ChrisC

[cadaveca]

I set the lane strength to "heavy" in bios, and have had no issue running dual cards, and since the FAH beta cme out, running 1 card 100% 24/7 and on saturday increased that to 2 cards running 100%. No change in my overclocks, and no artifacts or stability issues. Maybe those of you with the X19xx issues should set this setting manually, and see what happens.

I'd be checking to make sure that PCI-E is locked as well.

[Sparx]

I have had some problems trying to run a X1950CF and a X1900XT in crossfire with this board. I was running the X1900XT by itself with no problems with E6600 @ 3200 (400FSB, 1:1 RAM). Orthos for 16 hours with no errors, and system stable for a couple of weeks running all sorts of applications.

I lapped my E6600 and used Artic Silver 5 on it, as well as on the chipset coolers. I used AS5's instructions for dual core CPU's and applied a thin line down the middle of the E6600. Unfortunately, there was no temperature drop after this.

When I put in the X1950CF, the pc started rebooting or locking up when running 3D apps, so I thought this was a power supply issue. I tried lots of different drivers, and tried each card individually. I also went back to stock speeds for the E6600, but could still not run crossfire without getting reboots. I also did a lot of research on my PSU, and I believe that it should be powerful enough.

After a couple of days, the board wouldn't even POST! No beep, no video, all fans speed up & and small noise from my HDD, then nothing. So I took everything apart and tried to boot with only the P5W, E6600 and PSU. Still nothing. So I took off my Big Typhoon and saw that the thermal paste didn't look very well applied. I removed it and applied it again using a clean razor blade, and got a smooth thin layer on it.

After doing this, the PC booted, coretemp was showing that the CPU was 10 degrees cooler, and crossfire worked!! No more reboots or lockups at stock speeds. Then I tried OC'ing back to 3.2GHz with 400FSB, and the reboots are back when 3D apps are running.

I've been meaning to try OC'ing again in small steps and see if I can find a stable clock, but I'm realling confused about what is causing these reboots.

Any advise would be much appreciated.

Are you running stock cooling on the MCH (northbridge)?
That chip gets really hot.
sparx

[Timmaah]

the more i read this thread the more i regret shelling out 200 euros for this motherboard :(

[Sparx]

I am having good luck with mine.
Testing now 400 x 9 @ 1.41 volt vcore.
sparx

[pancito]

the more i read this thread the more i regret shelling out 200 euros for this motherboard :(

It's definately a work in progress, i managed to get 450Mhz FSB with it,

My Recommendations
-Fix the Vdroop or add more setting on Volt settings
-More Memory Timings or subtimings.
-NB Active Cooling.
-Change Temp Sensor from SB to NB
-Remove JMicron for something else, anything better
-Fix performance with EZ Backup ports.

[Timmaah]

On a side-note.. i see that on the asus site it says that the p5w dh deluxe is now quad-core ready.. perhaps this is another feature of bios 1601? Or maybe this was implemented before?

*shrugs*

[jimborae]

anybody on the 1601 bios yet

1601 is worse than useless for me, board will give cmos error on every boot and wont accept overclock settings. Only way I can get into windows is hit F2 & accept default settings. This is after clearing cmos via jumper.

1503 still the best so far for me.

[Pol1977]

OK guys... Got a replacement X1950XTX and everything is back to normal... I hope it will stay this way and this board won't turn out to be an ATI eater.

I just got my new GSkill 800MHz 4-4-4-12 ram sticks and something funny is happening...

The sticks say they have the above timings on the stickers on their light blue heatsinks but Everest reports 5-5-5-15... Now, due to the known SPD setting problem, I cannot set them manually.. CPUZ reports thet the board is setting them at 5-6-6-18. That's even worse than the SPD!!!
There is also a difference in the model number on the stickers and the one reported by Everest. The stickers say PHU2 and everest PHU1.

Is there anyone who has the same ram on this board?

[MacClipper]

This mobo is rather particular about RAM (at least till Asus fix the BIOS).

Here's 4GB worth of Crucial 10th Anniv. goodness manually set,
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/3246/cpuzram444812xy4.png

[SKiLL3D]

OK guys... Got a replacement X1950XTX and everything is back to normal... I hope it will stay this way and this board won't turn out to be an ATI eater.

I just got my new GSkill 800MHz 4-4-4-12 ram sticks and something funny is happening...

The sticks say they have the above timings on the stickers on their light blue heatsinks but Everest reports 5-5-5-15... Now, due to the known SPD setting problem, I cannot set them manually.. CPUZ reports thet the board is setting them at 5-6-6-18. That's even worse than the SPD!!!
There is also a difference in the model number on the stickers and the one reported by Everest. The stickers say PHU2 and everest PHU1.

Is there anyone who has the same ram on this board?
Everything is alright!

G.Skill set those SPDsettings for the N00bs that have bad Boards just to secure they work with 1,8V on EVERY ddr2capable Board on the Planet.

In fact u should know how to handle HighendRAM if u buy it :slap:

Go to the damn Chipset Settings and set them like u want them. Just keep in mind that u have to leave the Setting BY SPD if u want to go beyond 360-370FSB.

Another Possibility: go get THAIPHOON BURNER 3 (http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=258763) and reprogram your SPD to your needs, so that u can leave the timingSetting to BY SPD and have high FSB370+

PHU1 + PHU1 = PHU2 so thats alright too

Thats the Reason i keep waiting for another good BIOS to solve 2 Problems on this Board:
a) C1E/EIST-independent VcoreSetting(like Abit AW9D!)
b) HighFSB without having to set the timings BY SPD(more Subtimings would be nice, too)

I dont know how long i'll be waiting for this BIOS, but i will not wait until 2008. The AW9D-Max is a very competitive Board to this P5WDH and the most Feature(remote+wlan) are not really needed...

iLL

[MacClipper]

>The AW9D-Max is a very competitive Board to this P5WDH and the most Feature(remote+wlan) are not really needed...

that board is good only if you do not intend to use SLI and any other PCI add on cards... :)

[walste]

enyone get higher clock with 1601?
or some other good changes?

[tjelaw]

copied from the OC thread:

I'm testing an E6700 ES now on a P5W-DH, strange thing is:

When I put down multi to 9x, and set 400x9 in bios. All programs (coretemp, windows system properties, orthos etc.) show 444x9 = 4000mhz :S

CPU-Z is the only app that does show 400x9, is this a familiar problem for anyone?

[SKiLL3D]

copied from the OC thread:

I'm testing an E6700 ES now on a P5W-DH, strange thing is:

When I put down multi to 9x, and set 400x9 in bios. All programs (coretemp, windows system properties, orthos etc.) show 444x9 = 4000mhz :S

CPU-Z is the only app that does show 400x9, is this a familiar problem for anyone?
Yes - the other Programs just dont read the actual Multi. They identify the CPU and assume that the defaultMulti is runnin.

iLL

[The Mutt]

Anyone but me that is stuck with 380fsb with the 1503 bios but can go to 405 with 1305 bios?

Edit: Yay the 2000th post in this thread!

[dmilazzo78]

I have a ati x1950xtx never had any issues its only about 2 months old but I run 3dmark06 alot and play fear everyday almost max settings full res no problems at all getting huge fps with this board and gpu never locked up once.. all sotock setting not oc
I do know you are only suppose to use the drivers on the cd it came with and not to download the drivers on there website cause that can cause problems so be sure to use only the drivers on the actual cd the x1950 came with...