ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

[lawrywild]

No, I'm done with messing with this board

[The Nemesis]

I tried nothing spectacular, heck the 1407 doesn't do well for me either. I have to use the 1403 when I want to bench @450-455FSB. I use 1305 otherwise.

[Sparx]

Ok so it seems 1305 is still a better bios to use.

[Tallman]

Hey thanks again Tallman! What are your thoughts on the BIOS... why 1402? Just luck or some reasoning behind that choice? Also, what are your temps like running 1.55V at load? How much vdroop do you get with 1.55V?


I have not really had an issue with any bios since 801. After it, I used 1101, and now 1402. No speciffic reason, just to try them. I am not a good "reviewer" of these bios because I do not really dig into each to see what I can and cannot do. They all (that I have tried) have done what I wanted. Others may get into more detailed comparisons of each, not me. If I can boot, and make it run fast, and give no troubles, good enough for me.
I did have a prob for while getting memory errors with memtest and bios 1402, but it turned out it was my fault due to playing with settings :) ( big thanks go out to RyderOCZ from OCZ for setting me straight on that one ). I had put vmch back on auto (doh). vmch needs to be juiced up to be stable at high Mhz. I am using 1.65 vmch

I have a pic of 4 hours Orthos, vcore set at 1.575 in bios, and asus probe showing 1.52 at load. Yeah, vdroop sucks.
Core temp shows one core at 58c, other at 60c while asus probe says cpu is 46c and mobo 35c

[Tallman]

hmmm, maybe I should try 1305 for the heck of it.

[The Nemesis]

1101 & 1305 have been best for me on my 1.85v mch boards. No bios after 1403 will let me post above 440 X 9. I can't run memory @ 9 X 400 DDR2 1000 either but I bought some Crucial Ballistix's DDR2-800 to see if they will do it. My G. Skills do DDR2-1000 @ 2.3v 4-4-4-12 using the 2:3 divider but I have to set the FSB to 334 with is only 3 ghz. Max FSB 1mb Pi stable with no mods is 455 so far. Changing southbridge & northbridge chipsets tomorrow.

[syne_24]

1101 & 1305 have been best for me on my 1.85v mch boards. No bios after 1403 will let me post above 440 X 9. I can't run memory @ 9 X 400 DDR2 1000 either but I bought some Crucial Ballistix's DDR2-800 to see if they will do it. My G. Skills do DDR2-1000 @ 2.3v 4-4-4-12 using the 2:3 divider but I have to set the FSB to 334 with is only 3 ghz. Max FSB 1mb Pi stable with no mods is 455 so far. Changing southbridge & northbridge chipsets tomorrow.


lol you are still going hard at it eh :) Is this with the new 69MOAG and B series Conroe? I quit messing with mine like a couple weeks now. Just been enjoying it more hehe :D

[virtualrain]

hmmm, maybe I should try 1305 for the heck of it.

Please let me know if you find any improvements or issues! Thanks again Tallman!

[Leeghoofd]

Well I tried 1502 bios, just to see if the boot issue was gone, it isn't gone completely but the pc (at least mine does) seems to restart smoother, all fans and stuff spin up at a slower rpm to get at normal speed a few secs after. I think Asus is focusing on that. the E6400 with 400x 8 still runs happily on 1.4125 bios volt. Previously I could get it workingand bench it at 445 x 8 , will try that later today. Anyone else experiencing a different bootup then before. I also had with 1405 bios in case I used alower multiplier some weird readings with benchprogs. Eg Bios set to 7 x 400, CPU Z detects 2800mhz, Everest home 3456mhz, 3dmark 3456mhz,... will try that 2.

Keep it up Asus !!!

[Leeghoofd]

well did some testing, max benchable FSB is 438 Mhz :( (have max 1.65 MCH voltage) Also the multiplier software bug is still present with me ( not that it annoys me just seems weird ) Everest home and other seem to detect the fsb wrong 457Mhz all the time if set to 400mhz. Only CPU-Z seems to detect it correctly.

In Everest Read timing improved from 8351 to 8769
The Write timings dropped form 2642 to 2132
Latency dropped from 50.5 to 49.7

All by all this shaved 1 sec of from my SuperPI score 1Mb test now 17 secs flat. doing other SuperPi tests and they all seem to improve by a small margin ...

[lawrywild]

Just to clear up, there's no added memory timings?

[mikepaul]

I could use a little diagnosis here.

DH Deluxe (version capped @ 1.65V MCH), Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro, 2048MB Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4 RAM, CoolerMaster Real POwer 550W PSU, GeForce 7300 GS video.

SEEMED stable for a few days @ 410 FSB, RAM @ 4-4-4-12 1:1. 1.65V MCH, 2.10V Vmem, Vcore on AUTO was working fine, FSB 1.50V, ICH AUTO. HyperPath 3 disabled. CPU heat not excessive: as low as 43C at idle and 51C during Orthos stressing, and higher if I use a pre-selected Vcore instead of AUTO, but it was worse before I cut a hole in my case for a 120MM fan to blow on the MB.

Then I 'upset' it by testing why the 1407 BIOS locked up on me. Reverted to 1305, including CMOS reset just for luck (didn't NEED it). Now it runs for a while and locks up at random. An attempt to leave it on overnight yesterday doing nothing died at 1:32AM per the clock. Retart this morning was delayed when the hard drives went AWOL. Two power-offs still didn't bring them back, so I cracked the case and patted down the related wires, power and data. Nothing budged, but the drives came right back so maybe it NEEDED a timeout with no power. Only stayed running for maybe 35 minutes though, and then the mouse, keyboard, and clock all stopped.

Now, I've been hearing something just before the lockups when I'm there, like this time, and I've been calling it a kind of 'relay click'. Two quick clicks, followed eventually but not instantly by the whole system siezing up. It reminds me of what I hear when I'm shutting down, but slightly more subtle. No sign there was a full shutdown attempted, though.

I guess the PSU is causing the clicks (correct me if I'm wrong), but is that because the MB initiated a shutdown/cutback due to overheat of something? Is there some monitoring BIOS option I should turn off since I THINK things are OK? Some other heat-checking program (I use Core Temp for the CPU) to tell me what's going on that's not OK?

Thanks...

[topboy]

Does anyone have issues with this board on a reboot where it fails to initizalise the usb controller and hangs. I then press reset switch and it slow boots and throws a weird config disk entry in the raid list of disks on the ICH raid screen.

Config is 3 Raptors on raid 0

System not overclocked

Help appreciated

Topboy

[deadlock7]

Just to clear up, there's no added memory timings?

Nope..:)

[killerman]

got my e6400 @ 3.2ghz using 1.412 vcore and 1.65 vmch

can't even boot 410 fsb on this vcore thou, but it's rock stable at 400, ran orthos for 24 hours and other benchies fine, ran a few hours of fear and bf2 also and works fine

it's a week 28, do i have a dud? (I'm on a p5w, so i guess with vdroop it's actually lower than 1.412?)

it definitely needs that voltage, just think it's a bit too much for that clock. also temps are high... around 65 at max load ...and that's with a scythe infinity and some as5 (possibly bad contact?)

any suggestions/comments? full system specs below

thanks all ;)




600w GameXstream OCZ PSU
2GB DDR2 800 Crucial Ballistix @ 4-4-4-12
E6400 @ 3.2 ghz 1.412 vcore
Sapphire X1900XT 512MB
ASUS P5w DH
WD 250GB SATA II HDD
20" Widescreen Viewsonic Monitor

5413 3dmark06 at stock e6400 speeds
6098 3dmark06 e6400 @3.2ghz.

no OC on the video card yet (i dunno how to )

[nicepun]

First off I need to knock on wood, mainly because I guess I've been blessed because so far I haven't had any major issues with my settup. Maybe it's a combinatior or hardware or may it's just plain luck. I haven't tried BIOS 1502, mainly because I've been busy but I'll give it a go this weekend. My first mobo (1.65 vmch) was good to me it did 400x9 and better tried anything like my current setup because they hadn't released the unluck multi BIOS yet so I never got around to try 450x8, my current one (1.85vmch) is doing well as you can on my sig. I recently acquired a Rev 1.03G which I'll be testing this weekend to see if I get better OC. As far as added memory timing I kinda like not having to worry about more settings to mess around with, then again this is just me.

[Orbitech]

I have some issues with my PATA drives in this mobo..

I first tried to use the black jmircon IDE slot for the 2 PATA HDDs (and used a longer cable since the one from ASUS couldn't reach the distance from the HDDs to the black slot) and left the blue IDE slot for the optical drives. Drives worked fine both but both HDDs were impossible to be recognized from the black IDE.

Then I used black IDE slot for optical drives and used the blue one for HDDs. I managed to make the HDDs be recognized but the system becomes slow at loading and transfer (This is happening because of the one of the 2 PATA drives). If I remove the particular one the other PATA HDD works fine and my system works fine. The one drive that slows down the system works fine in another computer and I can't understand why it slows down things in this mobo..

What's happening here? Making my 2 PATA drives to work simulteanously has become a pain in the a$$ why is this happening can anyone help?

P.S : Now every time I start Windows I get a "Jmicron raid controller error" but I checked at the device manager and the device is working properly. I'm so confused..

[Falkentyne]

I could use a little diagnosis here.

DH Deluxe (version capped @ 1.65V MCH), Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro, 2048MB Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4 RAM, CoolerMaster Real POwer 550W PSU, GeForce 7300 GS video.

SEEMED stable for a few days @ 410 FSB, RAM @ 4-4-4-12 1:1. 1.65V MCH, 2.10V Vmem, Vcore on AUTO was working fine, FSB 1.50V, ICH AUTO. HyperPath 3 disabled. CPU heat not excessive: as low as 43C at idle and 51C during Orthos stressing, and higher if I use a pre-selected Vcore instead of AUTO, but it was worse before I cut a hole in my case for a 120MM fan to blow on the MB.

Then I 'upset' it by testing why the 1407 BIOS locked up on me. Reverted to 1305, including CMOS reset just for luck (didn't NEED it). Now it runs for a while and locks up at random. An attempt to leave it on overnight yesterday doing nothing died at 1:32AM per the clock. Retart this morning was delayed when the hard drives went AWOL. Two power-offs still didn't bring them back, so I cracked the case and patted down the related wires, power and data. Nothing budged, but the drives came right back so maybe it NEEDED a timeout with no power. Only stayed running for maybe 35 minutes though, and then the mouse, keyboard, and clock all stopped.

Now, I've been hearing something just before the lockups when I'm there, like this time, and I've been calling it a kind of 'relay click'. Two quick clicks, followed eventually but not instantly by the whole system siezing up. It reminds me of what I hear when I'm shutting down, but slightly more subtle. No sign there was a full shutdown attempted, though.

I guess the PSU is causing the clicks (correct me if I'm wrong), but is that because the MB initiated a shutdown/cutback due to overheat of something? Is there some monitoring BIOS option I should turn off since I THINK things are OK? Some other heat-checking program (I use Core Temp for the CPU) to tell me what's going on that's not OK?

Thanks...
Two quiet clicks....that sounds like a hard drive head dying...could be wrong, though....(a head dying and freezing can cause the entire system to freeze).

Is the HDD LED light on when this happens?

[cadaveca]

I have some issues with my PATA drives in this mobo..

I first tried to use the black jmircon IDE slot for the 2 PATA HDDs (and used a longer cable since the one from ASUS couldn't reach the distance from the HDDs to the black slot) and left the blue IDE slot for the optical drives. Drives worked fine both but both HDDs were impossible to be recognized from the black IDE.

Then I used black IDE slot for optical drives and used the blue one for HDDs. I managed to make the HDDs be recognized but the system becomes slow at loading and transfer (This is happening because of the one of the 2 PATA drives). If I remove the particular one the other PATA HDD works fine and my system works fine. The one drive that slows down the system works fine in another computer and I can't understand why it slows down things in this mobo..

What's happening here? Making my 2 PATA drives to work simulteanously has become a pain in the a$$ why is this happening can anyone help?

P.S : Now every time I start Windows I get a "Jmicron raid controller error" but I checked at the device manager and the device is working properly. I'm so confused..jumper the drives properly. Cable select ain't gonna cut it.

[Orbitech]

jumper the drives properly. Cable select ain't gonna cut it.

I am using jumpers properly.. :) Hell I used all teh possible combinations to make sure I was correct..
I mentioned that BOTH PATA HDDs ARE RECOGNIZED CORRECTLY. But I have slower transfer times and windows are taking forever to load.. If I remove one of the 2 PATA HDDs(the one that creates the problem for a strange reason since it works just fine on another pc) the other PATA will work fine and the system as well..
Anyone guys? Too fvckin weird :mad:

[cadaveca]

Seagate drives, by chance?

[Orbitech]

Seagate drives, by chance?

Nope.. 2 old WD 7200rpm one 80GB and one 40GB.

[lawrywild]

Does anyone have issues with this board on a reboot where it fails to initizalise the usb controller and hangs. I then press reset switch and it slow boots and throws a weird config disk entry in the raid list of disks on the ICH raid screen.

Config is 3 Raptors on raid 0

System not overclocked

Help appreciated

Topboy

Yeh I get that weird Config disk every now and again

So, it's not me with these weird stability problems...

[coredump]

Yeh I get that weird Config disk every now and again

So, it's not me with these weird stability problems...

FWIW, the "disk" resulting from a RAID0 or RAID1 on the EZ-BACKUP ports identifies itself as "Config" something.

[lawrywild]

umm, I don't use ezraid at all

[mikepaul]

Two quiet clicks....that sounds like a hard drive head dying...could be wrong, though....(a head dying and freezing can cause the entire system to freeze).

Is the HDD LED light on when this happens?Can't say if the HD light was on more than normal: the case is on its side with the access opening up, so the light faces away from me.

The boot drive is 'new', a RMA replacement WD 160GB that was fortunately around when I overheated and killed my old drive while defragmenting, and it hasn't had any problems that have been brought to my attention. It now lives in an Antec HD cooler at maybe 34C per the LED display. The WD 80GB data drive has seen better days, since I've had to reformat three partitions recently to get around Ghost 10 not being able to back them up. One of the partitions is where I keep the swapfile and it has needed a CHKDSK a few times due to these crashes and also what seemed like normal shutdowns. I guess the click sound could be coming from that general area, since it's almost the same level in the case as the PSU.

I can keep this idea in mind if having the non-boot (but swapfile) drive act funny can cause these kind of crashes, and put a new drive on the shopping list. Would moving the swapfile back to the C: drive for a while limit the impact crash-wise of any head issues on this secondary drive? One day, when I have 8GB of RAM and a version of Windows that can use it, I want to do away with the swapfile anyway...

[pee4]

Does anyone have issues with this board on a reboot where it fails to initizalise the usb controller and hangs. I then press reset switch and it slow boots and throws a weird config disk entry in the raid list of disks on the ICH raid screen.

Config is 3 Raptors on raid 0

System not overclocked

Help appreciated

Topboy


I get that rubbish too sometimes. It stalls for a moment when trying to find IDE4 then it displays that junk (--------------) in the Intel RAID section. I've got 2 Raptors in Raid 0. I don't know what happens if the PC actually boots, because when I see it I normally reset the PC because it worries me that it might corrupt the data on my hard drives if I let it boot.

[deadlock7]

I get that rubbish too sometimes. It stalls for a moment when trying to find IDE4 then it displays that junk (--------------) in the Intel RAID section. I've got 2 Raptors in Raid 0. I don't know what happens if the PC actually boots, because when I see it I normally reset the PC because it worries me that it might corrupt the data on my hard drives if I let it boot.

Same here..:(

[lawrywild]

I just let it boot when it happens, it does nothing, don't worry about it

[Leeghoofd]

can't even boot 410 fsb on this vcore thou, but it's rock stable at 400, ran orthos for 24 hours and other benchies fine, ran a few hours of fear and bf2 also and works fine

Max FSB I got with 1405 was 445 and with 1502 now it's less :( But the reboot seems different. Thoush stil noa added mem timings like with P5B Bios

it definitely needs that voltage, just think it's a bit too much for that clock. also temps are high... around 65 at max load ...and that's with a scythe infinity and some as5 (possibly bad contact?)

I need to put 1.4125 or 1.4250, the latter gives me less choppyness in games but the rig is rockstable on 1.4125 ( real just below 1.4 volts in bios) but he games tend to lag so I give the cpu some more voltage. I think you better reseat the cooler. In Orthos (so Dual prime) I get 52-50°c in Coretemp with my Ultra 120, The previous Zalman was 4-5 degrees hotter than the Thermalright. Everest Home gives for the CPU under load 44°C which is fine for me and the rig runs like this 24/7

These are my settings here in the link :

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/ALT.doc

Also here's a piccie of the cooling setup, I removed the covers of the bridges, a small old CPU fan on the northbridge and a beefy 120mm fan giving some cool air to my X2 card and the southbridge

http://users.pandora.be/OAP/Ultra120.jpg

[Richard Dower]

You Asus guys have too many hits!, 165,000...us Gigabyte folks are launching a campaign to beat y'all.

:-)

[v_parrello]

Hi guys!

Is in the new 1502 bios anything concerning memory subtimings (tRD, tRFC)configuration?

Somebody did try it? And what about memory divider? Are They working better with this new bios?

Thanks in advance

[lawrywild]

Hi guys!

Is in the new 1502 bios anything concerning memory subtimings (tRD, tRFC)configuration?

Somebody did try it? And what about memory divider? Are They working better with this new bios?

Thanks in advance

Apparently not :(

[lawrywild]

You Asus guys have too many hits!, 165,000...us Gigabyte folks are launching a campaign to beat y'all.

:-)

haha.. you can try :D

[Pjoeloe]

I thought it might come in handy to pass this url : it`s the newest version of the Asus update utilty v 7.07.06 to update the bios of all asus boards in windows xp without leaving windows xp :

http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/Other-DRIVERS-TOOLS/Others/Asus-Update-utility-70706.shtml

[Liquid3D]

I finally get around to testing my Conroe 6400 and P5W DH, I install the board and the stock cooler as usual to test temps on stock, and then go to power-up the system and nothing?

So I check all connections blah blah, and try the obvious removing the conroe and installing a Pentium 930, still the system won't power-up?

So I pull the board out of the case set it up on the box on Anti-static bag to elinimate Case grounding problems etc. as an option. I use a jumper to power up the board and it works! So I pop the front off the NZXT Zero case to see where the short might be in the wiring and it's fine? Then I realize I was freaking trying to power on the system using the DAM Reset button Doh!!!!

I've decided to remove the "savant" from my nickname Idiot-Savant. Anyway I rei-install Conroe she boots but it says 6300 running at 1.60GHz? So I raised the FSB to 333 as I thought this was supposed to be the Conroe's FSB speed anyway and this raise the memory to ddr2-1000 ehifch it is, and the chip to it's dfeault speed of 2.13GHz> Then the system won't boot? When the BIOS (0801) comes up again (at 1.60GHz) I notice the CPU temp is 65C? I try lowering the Vcore which was on Auto but I figure maybe there's something wrong, and this does nothing. Now I know with stock cooling 65C is insane since my room is at 18C and the case is open and near an open patio door letting cold air in. SO 65C is impossible. Well not with a Pentium 930 and a stock cooler overclocked but on a Conroe running under it's speed? PLAESE HELP

Does the bIOS 0801 report CPU temps wrong?

I'm sure I seated the cooler correctly although to be honest I hate these freaking new pop-pins they drive me nuts because they just don't work right half the time. You push two pin across from each other so one side doesn't seat unevenly and what happens only one goes in anyway. Anyway I need help or a handgun..... :(

[phile]

The BIOS will correctly report which CPU you have, regardless of the operating speed. So, if it's reporting that you have a E6300, that's exactly what you have. Stock FSB for conroe is 266. Your temps suggest that the cooler is NOT properly secured to the mobo. I would suggest removing and reseating the CPU (Take the opportunity to read the fine print on the heatspreader, which tells you the default operating frequency. This will help you determine what chip you have.) and reinstalling the HSF.

-phil

[irenic]

my new asus p5w dh deluxe straight out of the box manage to run my E6400 @ 3.2ghz with vcore @ default, vfsb up 1 notch, vmch @ 1.65, vdimm @ 1.9.

orthos stable @ 6hrs, but i'm using stock intel hsf. Coretemp reported core temp @ 80c .. :D

[Jimbo]

my new asus p5w dh deluxe straight out of the box manage to run my E6400 @ 3.2ghz with vcore @ default, vfsb up 1 notch, vmch @ 1.65, vdimm @ 1.9.

orthos stable @ 6hrs, but i'm using stock intel hsf. Coretemp reported core temp @ 80c .. :D

80c? :eek:

I thought mine was bad at 60c load, at 3ghz.

Well screw it then, Im going back to 3ghz. :D

[irenic]

i dunno how accurate it was.. my room temp was at 24c and my GTO also cooled down to 35c .. i touched intel hsf and i could feel the cold. but coretemp showed 80c.

my cpu is ok, not concave bcoz last time with big typhoon VX, even at 1.5vcore temp never goes above 65c.

[phile]

80c? :eek:

I thought mine was bad at 60c load, at 3ghz.

Well screw it then, Im going back to 3ghz. :D

Core temps of ~60C at load (TaT, Orthos Small FFTs) are well within the safe zone. I would certainly be very much uncomfortable with 80C, though.

-phil

[Nunyabiz]

I've decided to remove the "savant" from my nickname Idiot-Savant. Anyway I rei-install Conroe she boots but it says 6300 running at 1.60GHz? So I raised the FSB to 333 as I thought this was supposed to be the Conroe's FSB speed anyway and this raise the memory to ddr2-1000 ehifch it is, and the chip to it's dfeault speed of 2.13GHz> Then the system won't boot? When the BIOS (0801) comes up again (at 1.60GHz) I notice the CPU temp is 65C? I try lowering the Vcore which was on Auto but I figure maybe there's something wrong, and this does nothing. Now I know with stock cooling 65C is insane since my room is at 18C and the case is open and near an open patio door letting cold air in. SO 65C is impossible. Well not with a Pentium 930 and a stock cooler overclocked but on a Conroe running under it's speed? PLAESE HELP:(

Where did it say 1.6 GHZ? If in windows it could be the cpu throttling down to save power. If when you set the FSB to 333, you left vcore on auto, the board will possibly set the vcore very high, thusly given you high temps. And if you try and read the vcore with cpuid it will read low.....

Just a bunch of maybes.....

[mikepaul]

Two quiet clicks....that sounds like a hard drive head dying...could be wrong, though....(a head dying and freezing can cause the entire system to freeze).That sound could also be from a hard drive starved for power.

When I had another failure to boot due to no hard drives found, I checked and noticed the plug into the slave drive (the one with recent troubles) wasn't on solidly. Sure, I had shoved it on until it clicked, but it still rattled like the pins inside weren't attached solidly. Another plug had already proven to be unreliable so it's not like I wasn't warned.

So I demoted that plug to powering a fan and put another one on the HD, then still moved the swapfile to C:, and the machine ran all night. I may still splurge for another PSU with attachable cables so I can cut back on splitters. Meanwhile I may need to figure out if they sell kits to rebuild these plugs. This was the PSU I got via RMA when the first one seemed bad.

Thanks...

[pee4]

I just let it boot when it happens, it does nothing, don't worry about it

That's good to know. Thanks.

[lawrywild]

Np, afaik it's supposed to show up every once in a while.

[Mxtra]

I have a big problem. The second core on my 6600 stops working after I leave my pc on for a while. When I reboot, it goes back to normal. It'll then work fine for a few hours or maybe several days straight, but eventually it happens again. I'll run something multithreaded and the first core will be maxed out and the second core will be virtually unused. I tried a fresh install with xp pro and home and same problem with both. I ran Othos the last time it happened and got the following error message: Affinity Mask: Process: 0x1 Sys: 0x3. Anyone have any ideas on what's going on?

[Mxtra]

I just found a post about someone wanting to use just one core and doing this: run,msconfig,boot.ini tab,boot.ini advanced options, /numproc (set to number of cores to 1). So I did that but set it to 2 to see if it helps. It was blank by default. Hopefully, this'll do the trick. For some reason, I'm not that hopeful that it will.

[Tallman]

You Asus guys have too many hits!, 165,000...us Gigabyte folks are launching a campaign to beat y'all.

:-)

LOL, keep posting in this thread please and see if you beat this one.

[revenant]

MXtra - sounds like a bad cpu maybe?? you could try a full socket reseat.. blow the socket off when the cpu is out also.. good luck!

[Tallman]

Please let me know if you find any improvements or issues! Thanks again Tallman!

Well, I tried 1305, and for me at least, 1402 is better. More stable.
With 1305, when I boot at 390 fsb, I cannot bench and it shuts down after about 30 seconds with 1.7 vcore.

Same vcore and fsb of 390 with 1402 and I can bench and stays running.
So it is 1402 for me all the way.

[NghtShd]

I have a big problem. The second core on my 6600 stops working after I leave my pc on for a while. When I reboot, it goes back to normal. It'll then work fine for a few hours or maybe several days straight, but eventually it happens again. I'll run something multithreaded and the first core will be maxed out and the second core will be virtually unused. I tried a fresh install with xp pro and home and same problem with both. I ran Othos the last time it happened and got the following error message: Affinity Mask: Process: 0x1 Sys: 0x3. Anyone have any ideas on what's going on?

Sounds like a software problem to me. I'd think if one core really became dead/comatose it would cause nasty things to happen.

[Mxtra]

That's what I was thinking too, so I was suprised that a fresh install didn't change things. I use a program called svcd2dvd for encoding and it's multithreaded. The last time I found only one core was being used I closed it and ran Orthos. Same thing happened for Orthos, only one core got stressed. This sux cuz there's virtually no help online for such a problem. Not enough people have dual core pc's.

Sounds like a software problem to me. I'd think if one core really became dead/comatose it would cause nasty things to happen.

[virtualrain]

LOL, keep posting in this thread please and see if you beat this one.

:rofl:

[virtualrain]

Well, I tried 1305, and for me at least, 1402 is better. More stable.
With 1305, when I boot at 390 fsb, I cannot bench and it shuts down after about 30 seconds with 1.7 vcore.

Same vcore and fsb of 390 with 1402 and I can bench and stays running.
So it is 1402 for me all the way.

Ok... thanks again for your insights... you are going to save me a lot of time!

On the subject of BIOS... What's the verdict on the latest 1502 bios people?

[SpaceCadet0]

Or... POST stop after memory check.
For me, the problem I discovered was actually the PWR_FAN1, or the use of both PWR_FAN2 and PWR_FAN1 to power my case fan and the optional fan. So now I just plug the case fan into PWR_FAN2, forgo of the optional fan. ASUS manual should have highlighted "Installing the optional fan with an active CPU cooler ]<i.e. a fan> will interfere with the airflow and destabilize the system." THey're quite right, I only wish they made it be known better.

Other than that, my P5W DH runs like a dream.

[ccl2006]

In your experince is 1305 better than 1407?

[bichi]

No issues with 1502 (mild OC)
- P5WDH BIOS: 1502
- E6700 WK: 26
- FSB: 300; 3:4; PC-800
- OCZ OCZ2G8002GK; vDIMM=2.10vdc
- 5-6-6-18; BW: 6290/6279
- memtest86; 8 passes OK

DRIVES:
- 3 on ICH7 (AHCI mode)
- 2 on EzBackUp SI 4723 (RAID 0)
- 1 on JMicron [SATA RAID1]

IDLE: (SpeedStep and C1E enabled)
- CPU: 25c/77f
- MEM: 31c/87.8f
- AMB TEMP: 20.5c/69f

LOAD: (Orthos 4+ hrs)
- CPU: 48c/118.4f
- MEM: 39.5c/130.1f
- AMB TEMP: 22c/72f

LOAD: (SuperPI Single 32M)
- CPU: 40c/104f
- AMB TEMP: 22c/71.6f

LOAD: (SuperPrime 1E8)
- CPU: 45.5c/114f
- AMB TEMP: 23c/73.4f

LINK to build pix/mods/benches:
http://www.esnips.com/web/ConroeReady

[Tallman]

Or... POST stop after memory check.
For me, the problem I discovered was actually the PWR_FAN1, or the use of both PWR_FAN2 and PWR_FAN1 to power my case fan and the optional fan. So now I just plug the case fan into PWR_FAN2, forgo of the optional fan. ASUS manual should have highlighted "Installing the optional fan with an active CPU cooler ]<i.e. a fan> will interfere with the airflow and destabilize the system." THey're quite right, I only wish they made it be known better.

Other than that, my P5W DH runs like a dream.

The "optional fan" that they talk about here is the extra fan that came with the mobo and it mounts on top of the heatsink that is between the cpu cooler and the back of your case (covering mosfets).

I have a fan connected to both PWR_FAN1 and 2 with out any problems
infact, I have 4 fans connected to mobo besides the cpu fan(actually 5 if you count the one on the splitter)

[bichi]

Using PWR_FAN1, PWR_FAN2 and CHA_FAN1 with no boot/post delays or issues.
- (not using PWM aware HSF or ASUS MOSFET fan)
- BIOS fan controls all set to DISABLE (1502)
- Zalman CNPS-7000 AlCu with 478 to 775 bracket

[irenic]

i just installed my wc and my temp drop 40c during full load!

with same room temp (25c) and same oc setting (400x8) orthos showed intel stock fan full load @ 80c while my new wc setup only 41c! :D

i'm so happy..

i installed ASUS mosfet fan and connect it to pWR_fan2 without any problem..

[Pluppo]

Hello!

I would like to thank everyone who posted in this thread for providing great information. I've been reading this thread all week, and finally finished reading it all. I am new to overclocking, and have managed to get a nice and stable 3.2GHz on my E6600 with air cooling (400*8 - FSB:RAM = 1:1).

Here's a link to my Orthos test: http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/8396/cpustresstestit6.th.jpg (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cpustresstestit6.jpg)

My only consern now is my Geil ram. It is rated 4-4-4-12 @ 800MHz, but the board won't POST if I set the STD timings to manual :mad: . This means I'm stuck with 5-6-6-18 timings. From what I've read here, this is because the board is setting too low tRFC.

Is there nothing I can do to fix this besides waiting for a new bios? It seems like a lot of people are having the same problem...

[ROCKSOLID]

Hello!

I would like to thank everyone who posted in this thread for providing great information. I've been reading this thread all week, and finally finished reading it all. I am new to overclocking, and have managed to get a nice and stable 3.2GHz on my E6600 with air cooling (400*8 - FSB:RAM = 1:1).

Here's a link to my Orthos test: http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/8396/cpustresstestit6.th.jpg (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cpustresstestit6.jpg)

My only consern now is my Geil ram. It is rated 4-4-4-12 @ 800MHz, but the board won't POST if I set the STD timings to manual :mad: . This means I'm stuck with 5-6-6-18 timings. From what I've read here, this is because the board is setting too low tRFC.

Is there nothing I can do to fix this besides waiting for a new bios? It seems like a lot of people are having the same problem...

Have you disabled hyperpath in bios?

[virtualrain]

Hey guys, I'm going to be overclocking my buddy's rig tomorrow with this Mobo... We are replacing the stock HSF with a XP120 and Scythe S-FLEX fan. My question is, how do you connect a normal 3-pin fan to the CPU 4-pin Mobo PWM header correctly? Do you just connect the fan to the three left pins and leave the "CPU FAN PWM" pin unconnected?

Please reference the pins as mentioned in the manual (See attached pic).

Also do you recommend having the fan speed controlled via BIOS and if so, what settings? If not, we can use Speefan... is that recommended or not?

Thanks!

[bichi]

Assuming its a standard three-pin fan connector with tab relief....
- line-up tab dentent on fan 3-pin plug with tab on motherboard connector
- personal preference, I don't use BIOS fan controls, all disabled in BIOS
- old Zalman CNPS-7000 AlCu with 478 to 775 bracket is quiet at full volts/speed for me
- other fans are large, low-speed, low noise types, with ample CFM

[irenic]

now i am running orthos blend @ 4hrs+ with 413x8, vcore auto, vmch 1.65, vfsb up 1 notch, vdimm 1.9 @ 5-5-5-15.

:D

[Pluppo]

Have you disabled hyperpath in bios?

Yes it's disabled.

No matter what memory timings I try at 400MHz FSB, the board won't POST. I I managed to set the memory to 4-4-4-12 @ 800MHz when the FSB was 266, but what's the point of that? This is very annoying, because I could have bought a cheaper ram with high latency instead of this one.

Here are my settings using a template from an eariler post:

ASUS P5WDH Dlx Overclock Settings

CPU : E6600
DDR2 : Geil 2x1Gb PC2-6400 800MHz DDR2 CAS 4-4-4-12
Bios : 1407
VGA : Asus EAX1900XT
HDD : Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250GB 16MB Cache
PSU : Mist ATX.2.2 600W (same as Coolmax CU 600W)
OS : Windows XP Pro SP2
OVERCLOCK (MHz) = 3.2Ghz

BIOS SETTINGS

JumperFree Configuration

AI Overclocking set to MANUAL

CPU Frequency : 400
DRAMM Frequency : 800

Performance Mode : Turbo
PCI Express Frequency : 105
PCI Clock Sync Mode : 33.33

Memory Voltage : 2.1V
CPU Vcore Voltage : 1.375V
FSB Termination V : 1.3V
MCH Chipset V : 1.65V
ICH Chipset V : 1.2V
--------------------------------------------------------

CPU Configuration

Microcode Update : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
Execute Disable Function : Disabled
CPU Internal Thermal Control : Disabled
Virtualization Technology : Disabled
Intel SpeedStep Technology : Disabled
--------------------------------------------------------

Advanced Chipset Settings (DDR2)

Configure DRAM Timing By SPD : Enabled

Hyper Path 3 : Disabled
DRAM Throttling : Disabled

[Thickbrit]

@ Pluppo,you could try setting ICH V to auto,FSB V to auto,performance mode to auto and bump the memory voltage to 2.2/2.25v.Also,why not bump the vcore a little,run the 9 multi and go for some clockspeed ?

[Pluppo]

I tried setting ICH, FSB and perfomance mode to auto, 2,3v on the memory, and I still can't boot with manual SDP timings. As for the multi, I get too high temperatures in the cpu in full load when the vcore is higher, and I want to run this overclock 24/7.

Here is someone else having exactly the same problem as me:

My problem.

Bios doesnt recognize the timings of my RAM which are 4-4-4-12. It thinks it's 5-6-6-18, and I cant change them because it wont post when I set "Configure DRAM timings by speed" to Disabled.

And

I have the same problem with Corsair memory.

And here's what lawrywild says about the issue:

it's nothing to do with vdimm, it's the board setting too low tRFC

[Thickbrit]

i still think you'd be better off on the 9x,even if you dont increase vcore,but thats just me,and each to his own eh?.If it is the trfc,just for testing you can boot as high as you can with manual timings,then memset and clockgen your way higher in windows,just to prove the theory.Also if you cant run more than 3.2ghz or 1.375v without overheating,then something is wrong.

[ROCKSOLID]

I tried setting ICH, FSB and perfomance mode to auto, 2,3v on the memory, and I still can't boot with manual SDP timings. As for the multi, I get too high temperatures in the cpu in full load when the vcore is higher, and I want to run this overclock 24/7.


What happen when you set a lower FSB like 366 or 333Mhz? Can You set manual timings? You could determinate the manual/auto breakpoint FSB.

[phogger]

I have never been able to boot with the FSB > 400Mhz.

My best stable 24/7 OC follows Lawrywild's efforts, but I found that I had to increase vCore to 1.6125v:

-------------------------------------------------------
BIOS 1305
BIOS SETTINGS
JumperFree Configuration
AI Overclocking set to: MANUAL
CPU Frequency : 390MhZ
DRAMM Frequency :780Mhz
Performance Mode :Standard
PCI Express Frequency : 110Mhz
PCI Clock Sync Mode : 33.33Mhz
Memory Voltage : 2.20v
CPU Vcore Voltage : 1.6125v
FSB Termination V : 1.50v
MCH Chipset V : 1.65V
ICH Chipset V : 1.20v
--------------------------------------------------------
CPU Configuration
****Default CPU Ratio : Disabled
****Ratio CMOS Setting: [9]
Microcode Update : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
Execute Disable Function : Disabled
CPU Internal Thermal Control : Disabled
Virtualization Technology : Disabled
Intel SpeedStep Technology : Disabled
--------------------------------------------------------
*Advanced Chipset Settings
*Configure DRAM Timing By SPD : AUTO
*DRAM CAS Latency : 5
*DRAM RAS Precharge : 6
*DRAM RAS To CAS Delay : 6
*DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge Delay : 18
*DRAM Write Recovery Time :24
Hyper Path 3 : Disabled
DRAM Throttling : Disabled
--------------------------------------------------------
boot @3514/390
windows logon ok
TAT temps 54/52
ambient72F
-------------------------------------------------------

I have the E6600 and Corsair RAM PC8500.

My best manual memory timings 4-4-4-12 were achieved at 370 FSB (3333MHz)

Ambient temps in the acreage office have been cool, so the TAT and Coretemp beta processor temps have been acceptable, even though I run on air.

[nicepun]

I made a couple of changes to your settings, they are in BOLD. See if you can it now, also do you know what IC hips your memory has? One last thing, vcore might be too low but if you say it's stable for you then I guess it is what it is.


Yes it's disabled.

No matter what memory timings I try at 400MHz FSB, the board won't POST. I I managed to set the memory to 4-4-4-12 @ 800MHz when the FSB was 266, but what's the point of that? This is very annoying, because I could have bought a cheaper ram with high latency instead of this one.

Here are my settings using a template from an eariler post:

ASUS P5WDH Dlx Overclock Settings

CPU : E6600
DDR2 : Geil 2x1Gb PC2-6400 800MHz DDR2 CAS 4-4-4-12
Bios : 1407
VGA : Asus EAX1900XT
HDD : Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250GB 16MB Cache
PSU : Mist ATX.2.2 600W (same as Coolmax CU 600W)
OS : Windows XP Pro SP2
OVERCLOCK (MHz) = 3.2Ghz

BIOS SETTINGS

JumperFree Configuration

AI Overclocking set to MANUAL

CPU Frequency : 400
DRAMM Frequency : 800

Performance Mode : Standard
PCI Express Frequency : 105
PCI Clock Sync Mode : 33.33

Memory Voltage : 2.3V
CPU Vcore Voltage : 1.375V
FSB Termination V : 1.4V
MCH Chipset V : 1.65V
ICH Chipset V : 1.2V
--------------------------------------------------------

CPU Configuration

Microcode Update : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
Execute Disable Function : Disabled
CPU Internal Thermal Control : Disabled
Virtualization Technology : Disabled
Intel SpeedStep Technology : Disabled
--------------------------------------------------------

Advanced Chipset Settings (DDR2)

Configure DRAM Timing By SPD : Disabled

4-4-4-8

Hyper Path 3 : Disabled
DRAM Throttling : Disabled

Just to let you guys know that I've gotten another Week27 and it cannot do 450x8 @ 1.5125 like my other Week27, however it can do 400x9 @ 1.5125 no problem and it is able to do 450x8 but @ 1.600vcore. Which makes me think that each CPU has a FSB wall. I'm still testing away.


Here are my settings that might help some one. Below you'll see the 450x8 and 400x9 settings (The only diffirent value is the one in (), everything else remains the same). Rock Solid Stabled.

-------------------------------------------------------
BIOS 1407
BIOS SETTINGS
JumperFree Configuration
AI Overclocking set to: MANUAL
CPU Frequency : 450MhZ (400MhZ)
DRAMM Frequency :900Mhz (1000MhZ)
Performance Mode :Standard
PCI Express Frequency : 110Mhz
PCI Clock Sync Mode : 33.33Mhz
Memory Voltage : 2.40v
CPU Vcore Voltage : 1.5125v
FSB Termination V : 1.50v
MCH Chipset V : 1.75V (I have the 1.85vmch version)
ICH Chipset V : 1.20v
--------------------------------------------------------
CPU Configuration
****Default CPU Ratio : Disabled
****Ratio CMOS Setting: [8] ([9])
Microcode Update : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
Execute Disable Function : Disabled
CPU Internal Thermal Control : Disabled
Virtualization Technology : Enabled
Intel SpeedStep Technology : Disabled
--------------------------------------------------------
*Advanced Chipset Settings
*Configure DRAM Timing By SPD : Disabled
*DRAM CAS Latency : 4
*DRAM RAS Precharge : 4
*DRAM RAS To CAS Delay : 4
*DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge Delay : 4
*DRAM Write Recovery Time :4
Hyper Path 3 : Disabled
DRAM Throttling : Disabled

[Sparx]

CPUZ question>>

I am using 1.36 CPUZ and have ram at SPD for the moment.
Any idea as to why Trc is reported as "1" and then sometimes "24" which should be correct?
TIA
sparx

[BulldogPO]

Why you do´nt update CPU-Z to 1.37?

[liquoredonlife]

Does anyone know of any programs that can get SMART data off the Intel ICH7R RAID0? Normally I use SpeedFan but it comes up empty with my 2x320g 7200.10 RAID.

[Delta]

Hi all, im new and been reading here for a long time. I built my new system and everything seemed to work fine. Boots up and posts all information. My problem is getting my RAID 0 to work on the Intel matrix ich7r! Ive grabbed the RAID drivers off the Asus cd and put them on a floppy. Ive made the Matrix array and set up my Bios for it. Also disabled the 1394 firewire and jmicron in Bios. ive hooked my HD's to Sata1 (red) and Sata3 (black) connectors using the RED sata cables. When everything boots up , I hit F6, and install the RAID driver (intel 82801GR/GH SATA Raid Controller Desktop ICH7R/DH ). IT all loads up fine and then proceeds to start loading windows. Gets as far as saying "Starting Windows", hangs for 2 seconds and then gives me the BSOD !. Ive tried Moving the SATA connectors to Sata 4 and other configurations. Still BSOD everytime.

When i use the Orange sata cables onto the Ez-raid ports, Config the Bios for ez-raid 0 and the jumpers, it will load windows and all is good.

I want the better performance out of the Martix Raid 0 instead of the ez-raid0 .

My system specs are:
E6700 L629a434
P5W DH Deluxe Bios 1305
Gskill 6400 2GBHZ
7900 GTO
3 SeaGate 320gb 7200.10 - want raid 0 on 2 and 3rd for storage
Zippy GSM-6600p (G1)

Any help would be appreciated. Right now im going to Reinstall my OS (xp home sp2) on the ez-raid sata ports just to get this up and running for now untill i can figure this martix raid 0 stuff out.

Thanks!

[ArneJohansen]

I had a lot of problems with my ocz ddr 6400 xtc ram. My board does 400fsb easy so i wanted to run ram @1:1 since it speced for that. Using default volt was not good. Ruined my os install 2 times :(one i had for a year)

Then i uped volt to 2.05(giving 2.1) and running it@350 stable for memtest and prime. Tried with stock settings(4-5-4-15)if i remember right. Gave me errors after a while. Trired more volt and i reported errors faster, tried less and got lockups. Then i tried 2v and it was perfectly stable@4-4-4-10. Strange board ram combo. Was almost giving up running this ram at stock. Happy now :D

Will now try to max my cpu, using 400x6 now for stock speed when i am testing. Will try 8x400 to see if that is stable.

[Sparx]

Why you do´nt update CPU-Z to 1.37?
Thanks, didn't know about 1.37.
I will do that.
jim

[ccl2006]

I had a lot of problems with my ocz ddr 6400 xtc ram. My board does 400fsb easy so i wanted to run ram @1:1 since it speced for that. Using default volt was not good. Ruined my os install 2 times :(one i had for a year)

Then i uped volt to 2.05(giving 2.1) and running it@350 stable for memtest and prime. Tried with stock settings(4-5-4-15)if i remember right. Gave me errors after a while. Trired more volt and i reported errors faster, tried less and got lockups. Then i tried 2v and it was perfectly stable@4-4-4-10. Strange board ram combo. Was almost giving up running this ram at stock. Happy now :D

Will now try to max my cpu, using 400x6 now for stock speed when i am testing. Will try 8x400 to see if that is stable.


same here.

[Delta]

Hi all, im new and been reading here for a long time. I built my new system and everything seemed to work fine. Boots up and posts all information. My problem is getting my RAID 0 to work on the Intel matrix ich7r! Ive grabbed the RAID drivers off the Asus cd and put them on a floppy. Ive made the Matrix array and set up my Bios for it. Also disabled the 1394 firewire and jmicron in Bios. ive hooked my HD's to Sata1 (red) and Sata3 (black) connectors using the RED sata cables. When everything boots up , I hit F6, and install the RAID driver (intel 82801GR/GH SATA Raid Controller Desktop ICH7R/DH ). IT all loads up fine and then proceeds to start loading windows. Gets as far as saying "Starting Windows", hangs for 2 seconds and then gives me the BSOD !. Ive tried Moving the SATA connectors to Sata 4 and other configurations. Still BSOD everytime.

When i use the Orange sata cables onto the Ez-raid ports, Config the Bios for ez-raid 0 and the jumpers, it will load windows and all is good.

I want the better performance out of the Martix Raid 0 instead of the ez-raid0 .

My system specs are:
E6700 L629a434
P5W DH Deluxe Bios 1305
Gskill 6400 2GBHZ
7900 GTO
3 SeaGate 320gb 7200.10 - want raid 0 on 2 and 3rd for storage
Zippy GSM-6600p (G1)

Any help would be appreciated. Right now im going to Reinstall my OS (xp home sp2) on the ez-raid sata ports just to get this up and running for now untill i can figure this martix raid 0 stuff out.

Thanks!


*BUMP* sorry for this, just wondering if anyone has any ideas.... Is it possible for me to run the ich7r raid 0 with one drive on the RED boot sata connector and another one on one of the easy raid (orange) sata ports ??

Thanks!

[liquoredonlife]

Hi all, im new and been reading here for a long time. I built my new system and everything seemed to work fine. Boots up and posts all information. My problem is getting my RAID 0 to work on the Intel matrix ich7r! Ive grabbed the RAID drivers off the Asus cd and put them on a floppy. Ive made the Matrix array and set up my Bios for it. Also disabled the 1394 firewire and jmicron in Bios. ive hooked my HD's to Sata1 (red) and Sata3 (black) connectors using the RED sata cables. When everything boots up , I hit F6, and install the RAID driver (intel 82801GR/GH SATA Raid Controller Desktop ICH7R/DH ). IT all loads up fine and then proceeds to start loading windows. Gets as far as saying "Starting Windows", hangs for 2 seconds and then gives me the BSOD !. Ive tried Moving the SATA connectors to Sata 4 and other configurations. Still BSOD everytime.

When i use the Orange sata cables onto the Ez-raid ports, Config the Bios for ez-raid 0 and the jumpers, it will load windows and all is good.

I want the better performance out of the Martix Raid 0 instead of the ez-raid0 .

My system specs are:
E6700 L629a434
P5W DH Deluxe Bios 1305
Gskill 6400 2GBHZ
7900 GTO
3 SeaGate 320gb 7200.10 - want raid 0 on 2 and 3rd for storage
Zippy GSM-6600p (G1)

Any help would be appreciated. Right now im going to Reinstall my OS (xp home sp2) on the ez-raid sata ports just to get this up and running for now untill i can figure this martix raid 0 stuff out.

Thanks!

Your setup is almost identical to mine. E6600, 2x7200.10 on RAID 0 using the Intel ICH7R raid, 7900GTO. I used the ASUS CD to create the driver floppy disc, did F6 upon installing WinXP, and used it. Perhaps you should hold off installing the 3rd hard drive til your raid setup is going. Oh, and how did you setup your drives in the Intel Matrix Bios (Ctrl+I)?

Might be a bad WinXP CD. Can't think of much else that would cause that, despite running into that issue a few times. I did use N-Lite to create a slipstream install of WinXP w/ SP2 and a few other options but there's nothing specific about that, that would fix your problems.

[catscit]

*BUMP* sorry for this, just wondering if anyone has any ideas.... Is it possible for me to run the ich7r raid 0 with one drive on the RED boot sata connector and another one on one of the easy raid (orange) sata ports ??

Thanks!

with 2 drives you can use either the red and one black or the red and one orange port. Both should work.
No idea why you're having problems, should just work, however, get the latest floppy create program from the intel site instead of using the asus cd, the intel drivers are a lot newer and give higher performance.

[Ic3man]

*BUMP* sorry for this, just wondering if anyone has any ideas.... Is it possible for me to run the ich7r raid 0 with one drive on the RED boot sata connector and another one on one of the easy raid (orange) sata ports ??

Thanks!

Don't make the raid floppy in windows. Some of the drivers Asus CD's are actually ich8r when you need Ich7r. Either use the asus CD to boot and make a disc in dos or (better) download the correct ones from intel direct.

[Delta]

Hey, thanks for the infromation. I will get the drivers from Intel site and see what happens tomorrrow. I did hit (ctrl+i) and set it all up. Boot screen did show the 2 drives in Matrix Raid 0. I bet its my copy of XP ( dell reinstallation cd with cd key, xp home edition sp2). Its been great for the last 2 yrs. Ive been too lazy to get another operating system, since this one has worked. Maybe i should get a copy of XP pro sp2.

I'll update tomorrow!

Thanks!

[lawrywild]

Don't make the raid floppy in windows. Some of the drivers Asus CD's are actually ich8r when you need Ich7r. Either use the asus CD to boot and make a disc in dos or (better) download the correct ones from intel direct.

It's fine to do it in windows.

You just have to remember, that when you press F6, it only shows the first 4 but there are actually more that are not being shown below, you can use your arrow keys to scroll down and find ICH7R Desktop RAID :)

[Pluppo]

My only consern now is my Geil ram. It is rated 4-4-4-12 @ 800MHz, but the board won't POST if I set the STD timings to manual :mad: . This means I'm stuck with 5-6-6-18 timings. From what I've read here, this is because the board is setting too low tRFC.

Is there nothing I can do to fix this besides waiting for a new bios? It seems like a lot of people are having the same problem...

I sent a technical inquiry to Asus, and here is the reply I got:

Dear Valued Customer

We will probobly release new BIOS versions to this MB.

Best Regards
David Hammer
Asus Nordic TSD Support

I just hope "probobly" means "yeah we're working on it and it will be out soon" :D

[Brahmzy]

Any idea when / if they'll release a P5W DH BIOS that stops that horrible shutdown on reboot issue? They fixed it for the P5B D and many others, why not the P5W?

[maarrk]

And while their at it… they could fix the IDE detection time or what ever the stupid thing doing when computer boots up:mad: .

I’ve tried everything? And I’m all out of ideas.

[SKiLL3D]

Any idea when / if they'll release a P5W DH BIOS that stops that horrible shutdown on reboot issue? They fixed it for the P5B D and many others, why not the P5W?
Just now! http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1792623#post1792623 <- go get the Rebootbugfree BIOS 1503 there!

Now i need only 1 thing Asus to do:
enable VcoreConfiguration with C1E/EIST enabled! PLZ!

iLL

[TheMaster]

hi all, i hade a great news for you P5W-DH users.
There is a new bios out and it solfs really the rebootbug, it has the number 1503 (http://taskforce.no-ip.info/pics/ASUS_P5W-DH/P5W-DH1503.zip).
Please note, that this news will brought to you by the forumdeluxx.de (http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/index.php)

[maarrk]

Works well just installed it :) no more cold boots :toast:

[irenic]

owh got people tried already..anyway since i just bought this board and never flash bios yet, so i wonder whether flash bios from USB thumbdrive is safe or not?

thx!

[MacClipper]

I have been using thumbdrives for flashing without problems for the past few years, done a few times on the P5W too. Going to flash mine soon cos I can't stand the way reboot is power cycling the harddisks with the older BIOS.

[Leeghoofd]

and the OC still over 400mhz , my 1502 locked up at 430 about 15mhz less then before (1305 bios) ? glad they got something going now good job Asus engineers keep it up and bring us more speed !!!!

[MacClipper]

Flashed and yes, it fixed the power cycling for my 1.85v mobo too.

[TheMaster]

It's no Problem to use the Asus Update tool under running OS.
I did it many times now and have no problem with the usage.
You just update from a file ( one of the options ) and let the programm do the rest.

[bichi]

1503 BIOS Flashdrive Update Oddness

- flash via BIOS utility and thumbdrive failed
* normal process checking file, erasing, etc.
* begin writing to EEPROM, stopped at "2nd block"

- BIOS recovery normal with renamed 1502 to p5wdh.rom on flashdrive

- successfully installed 1503 via AFUDOS and floppy

This is an early board.
- EEPROM markings: WDH06-0401-7ED5-GS V06

Will have to investigate why later.....
- first time this has happened using ASUS flashdrive method

TIP: (for those with early boards, just in case BIOS recovery is needed)
- copy AFUDOS.exe and your last good BIOS, renamed to "P5WDH.ROM" to floppy

[phogger]

It's no Problem to use the Asus Update tool under running OS.
I did it many times now and have no problem with the usage.
You just update from a file ( one of the options ) and let the programm do the rest.

Used the update tool at lunch time. Very easy indeed.

Put in 1503 and confirmed it does eliminate the annoying cold reboot.

I missed a fan setting (passive cooling) so I had to press the F1 key when I booted the first time (and the second). Dang. :nono: I'd better document those BIOS settings better.

I'll run it a while before updating my sig. . .:)

[irenic]

flashed the bios and so far it is better than my board default bios (1407)!

with 1407, i cant boot my E6400 at 425x8 @ 1.35vcore, 1.3vfsb, 1.65vmch.. it just stucked before windows login.
I know it's not my processor max because i can did exactly the same setting with biostar 965p deluxe and gigabyte ds3 rev c2..
But now with this 1503 beta bios, it works with flying colors. Passed super PI 1m and right now i'm running orthos blend (by the time i write this orthos @ 7mins).
I know this is 975 board but i hope i can achieve orthos stable near what i got with 965 boards (430x8 @ 1.375vcore)

[lawrywild]

tRFC? tRFC? tRFC??? :rolleyes:

[killerman]

flashed the bios and so far it is better than my board default bios (1407)!

with 1407, i cant boot my E6400 at 425x8 @ 1.35vcore, 1.3vfsb, 1.65vmch.. it just stucked before windows login.
I know it's not my processor max because i can did exactly the same setting with biostar 965p deluxe and gigabyte ds3 rev c2..
But now with this 1503 beta bios, it works with flying colors. Passed super PI 1m and right now i'm running orthos blend (by the time i write this orthos @ 7mins).
I know this is 975 board but i hope i can achieve orthos stable near what i got with 965 boards (430x8 @ 1.375vcore)


interesting chip... i have a week28 e6400 also, need 1.412 vcore to be stable at 400fsb on my asus p5w :(

using bios 1305... i wonder if on another bios the vcore would be lower....
:(

[irenic]

orthos 1hrs 57mins still running but sadly i have to stop here. need to go outstation for 1 day...

[SKiLL3D]

since the Board is undervolting lil'bit it should be ok this way. My default Vcore is 1,325 but CPu-Z and Everest never showed me more than 1,31V. I only hope for VcoreChanging Option with activated C1E/EIST like the Abit AW9DMax

iLL

[Brahmzy]

WOOT! I can't believe they finally fixed the cold reboot issue on the "DH"!!!!!!

Gonna flash it tonight!!!!

[Timmaah]

well i flahsed the bios in windows for the -i dont remember how many time- and will check in the next coming days how the stability etc. is... i was experiencing random crashes with bios 1407 at stable settings when playing flight simulator 9 :/ was orthos stable and could handle hours of bf2 etc... so i went stock, i'm going to see if maybe with this bios i can go back to 3.0ghz on stock volts and 1ghz ddr

[Tallman]

1503 seems good to me so far. Just flashed in windows with their update utility.
I can get 400 fsb with my 6700 to boot with less effort than before though still not stable, but it IS better. Boots with 390 fsb for 3.9 Ghz no prob and can bench as did bios 1402

[Senater_Cache]

is it really fixed (the boot issue)
so does this make the P5W a contender again in the 975x market? as it wont die on you cause of cold boots?

[Betroz]

1503 BIOS fixed the cold boot problem yes.

[NO1B4ME]

interesting chip... i have a week28 e6400 also, need 1.412 vcore to be stable at 400fsb on my asus p5w :(

using bios 1305... i wonder if on another bios the vcore would be lower....
:(


It is not Bios, it is your chip. Some people get lucky with a good chip and others don't.

[Shaotai]

is it really fixed (the boot issue)
so does this make the P5W a contender again in the 975x market? as it wont die on you cause of cold boots?

and your hard drives and optical drives will thank you for it... :)

I'm really liking my mobo now...

[phile]

:woot:

-phil

[Pjoeloe]

Congrats Asus :D :toast:

[pentium777]

Is that 1503 bios official? Don't see it listed on their website...

Apparently from reading some posts it is a BETA. Since I rarely reboot anymore as I believe my max OC on this CPU is achieved for now I think I'm going to wait until it is a final official.

Question, for everyone that updated bios do you lose all your bios settings? Does that reload utility work and load back all the settings? Or should I take my digital camera and picture all my bios settings?

Thanks

[phile]

It's a beta bios, so you will not find it on their Web or FTP sites.

-phil

[pentium777]

It's a beta bios, so you will not find it on their Web or FTP sites.

-phil

If that is the case then how are people using the automatic windows update utility? Does that utility allow people to select the beta bios for windows install?

[lawrywild]

now, ASUS, put sub-timings into bios!!! :slapass:

[phile]

If that is the case then how are people using the automatic windows update utility? Does that utility allow people to select the beta bios for windows install?

You should NEVER update your BIOS over the internet. Download the BIOS file and update locally via file.

-phil

[syne_24]

tRFC? tRFC? tRFC??? :rolleyes:


i know lol..when will we ever see sub timing options for this board..need to bring some drama in the asus forums..;)

[mikepaul]

1503 didn't lock up, but it kept giving me a CMOS checksum error. After two tries to save my parameters, I hit F2 to use defaults. It kept my FSB and RAM settings, but I don't want to hit F2 every reboot so I'm back to 1305.

Didn't try SPD since 4-4-4-12 wasn't overridden, but they still might be encouraging SPD use...

[Brahmzy]

I got a checksum error, but the BIOS flashed to 1503 successfully.

THANK YOU ASUS!

I love this board again! No more dang cold reboots!

I can now quit wanting the P5B D!!

Today is a good day.

[Pjoeloe]

I can now quit wanting the P5B D!!

Why? Can the DH do 500 mhz fsb without mods :p:

[Strikez]

I got a checksum error, but the BIOS flashed to 1503 successfully.

THANK YOU ASUS!

I love this board again! No more dang cold reboots!

I can now quit wanting the P5B D!!

Today is a good day.

I flashed to 1503 and recieved the same error thought I messed up the bios. Powered off system set the jumper to clear cmos with power off; I use the logitech G15 keyboard its usb and had to get my old ps/2 keyboard to get into the bios. Once in the bios I set it up and saved and every thing seems to be working normally. Havent noticed any difference. But I had flashed in hopes I could set may crucial PC2- 8500 dominator ram to 1066mhz no such luck maxes out still at 1010 mhz.

[NO1B4ME]

Why? Can the DH do 500 mhz fsb without mods :p:


Only time will tell, but the bioses are getting better :) .

[Strikez]

1503 didn't lock up, but it kept giving me a CMOS checksum error. After two tries to save my parameters, I hit F2 to use defaults. It kept my FSB and RAM settings, but I don't want to hit F2 every reboot so I'm back to 1305.

Didn't try SPD since 4-4-4-12 wasn't overridden, but they still might be encouraging SPD use...


Dont forget to clear cmos with onboard jumper once this is done power up system go into Bios and fix your setting save and exit it should be fine after that. I dont know why the checksum error I never had that show up before.

[Strikez]

You should NEVER update your BIOS over the internet. Download the BIOS file and update locally via file.

-phil


I find it easier and safer to update bios using the ezbios in the bios itself. Just have to save the new one on a floppy and point it to the bios on the floppy.

[dmilazzo78]

Hi All,

This is my first post but I have been reading this forum for awhile. I have two memorex dvd-burners when I run them on the same ide cable I get problems regardless how jumpers are set. In bios there are seen properly as primary and slave but in windows one drive just freezes the computer and if I try to copy a disk from a to b I get error messages. Anyone out there that can help ? The only way to get both drives to work is to hook up one to the ide cable and the other to the eide on the bottom middle of the mobo which is a huge pain.

e6600
p5w dh mobo (1503 bios)
ati x1950xtx
pny verto 1 gb pc2-6400 800 mhz 44484 2.1 volts
2 memorex dvd-burners
lan-boy antec case
700w power supply
2 raptors 74gb running raid 0 config


Few pics of my rig below the last picture is the problem child drives

http://imageigloo.com/thumbs/7215DSC01256.JPG (http://imageigloo.com/viewer.php?id=7215DSC01256.JPG)http://imageigloo.com/thumbs/1665DSC01253.JPG (http://imageigloo.com/viewer.php?id=1665DSC01253.JPG)
http://imageigloo.com/thumbs/6392DSC01262.JPG (http://imageigloo.com/viewer.php?id=6392DSC01262.JPG)
http://imageigloo.com/thumbs/3309DSC01270.JPG (http://imageigloo.com/viewer.php?id=3309DSC01270.JPG)

[Stelios]

Why? Can the DH do 500 mhz fsb without mods :p:

Because P5B can't do 500 with 1066 strap .

[abaldo]

Hi all.
This is my first post, and first of all, I would like to thank everyone who has made contributions to this thread.
I am not a native english speaker, so I apologize in advance for my errors.
I´ve been reading a lot on this thread before this post.
I have one big issue with this mobo: sometimes after a reboot or shutdown, the screen simply does not get any signal from the video card, and doesn´t matter what I try (power-off - press shutdown button for more than 5 secs; turn-off the psu; soft reboot - ctrl+alt+del; ...) the mobo won´t post anymore.
The only way to boot or post again is taking the CMOS battery (and the Radeon, to get to the battery) off the mobo, and reset the CMOS (as described by the mobo manual).
This happens even in stock settings.
It has happened using BIOS releases 1101, 1305 (the most stable), 1401, 1402, 1407, 1501 and 1502.
I was wondering if this has not to do with a bug within energy saving BIOS features (that I just can´t disable anyhow)...
I just can´t stand anymore to reset the CMOS everytime I need to reboot...
That´s why I want do ask my question:
Do you think that the rebootbug (1503 fix) can fix this too?

[dmilazzo78]

check the timing on your ram or enable spd also does this problem happen when your mobo is not overclocked as well ?

[abaldo]

Yeap, running with SPD enabled or the correct timings (according to OCZ 5-6-6-15), I´ve set manually the vDimm at 2.10V (as recommended by OCZ).
Now I am running @ stock 2.4 (9x266) and ram at DDR2-800 :( to ensure stability.
And even @ stock, the problem happens...
Could be the psu (450W)?
I have to agree with you, the X1950XTX is AWSOME!

[Sparx]

Yeap, running with SPD enabled or the correct timings (according to OCZ 5-6-6-15), I´ve set manually the vDimm at 2.10V (as recommended by OCZ).
Now I am running @ stock 2.4 (9x266) and ram at DDR2-800 :( to ensure stability.
And even @ stock, the problem happens...
Could be the psu (450W)?
I have to agree with you, the X1950XTX is AWSOME!
Only a 450watt?
Might be a problem for sure.

[dmilazzo78]

I agree with sparx I would bet thats the problem get a 600 watt or more power supply with 38 amps running on the 12 volt rail for you gpu. 450 isn't enough for that gpu and cpu no way. Do you ever get blue screens or your computer just freezes or shuts off while say gaming ?

[NO1B4ME]

500 mhz on a i975x with air ? no way :(

HAHA, you spoke to soon. Victorwang is almost their on Air.http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=120436

[DarkSephiroth]

Hey, can you Raid0 4xRaptors 36GB on this board? The ICH7R only supports 3 SATA slots so i'm not too sure

[abaldo]

I agree with sparx I would bet thats the problem get a 600 watt or more power supply with 38 amps running on the 12 volt rail for you gpu. 450 isn't enough for that gpu and cpu no way. Do you ever get blue screens or your computer just freezes or shuts off while say gaming ?
Actually the only problem that I´ve been having is at reboot time... no blue screens, no freezing, no shutting off while gaming (DOOM 3 and AmericasArmy270 for testing)...
The system is running for 72 hours now, without any issues (while it´s on at least!).

[syne_24]

Hey, can you Raid0 4xRaptors 36GB on this board? The ICH7R only supports 3 SATA slots so i'm not too sure


nope only 3 ports for the ICH7..but i think you can do some kinda mega raid by combining the jmicron + ICH7 in like raid5 or something? I'm havent try this yet...

[dmilazzo78]

Well i would think you would have issue's while gaming kinda strange

I would buy I power supply from a store with a good return policy and try it to see if that corrects your issue

also try taking out one of your ram sticks and booting and then the other also while switching slots you might have a bad ram stick.

[abaldo]

Well i would think you would have issue's while gaming kinda strange

I would buy I power supply from a store with a good return policy and try it to see if that corrects your issue

also try taking out one of your ram sticks and booting and then the other also while switching slots you might have a bad ram stick.
I´ve run memtest86 without any errors... will try to change my psu at the store...

Could this be related to the rebootbug?

[dmilazzo78]

I would still try to pull your ram 1 at a time and change slots just to test it. Its really sounds like thats the issue but even if it is you still need a bigger power supply I dont think thats going to fix your boot up issue though.

[revenant]

Hey, can you Raid0 4xRaptors 36GB on this board? The ICH7R only supports 3 SATA slots so i'm not too sure

If you want to do that, and it would be FAST.. get yourself a cheap Promise SATA raid card with 4x SATA ports.. it will work sooooo much better and you won't have to :banana::banana::banana::banana: with all the mobo controllers + drivers etc to get it working.. all those on motherboard raid implementations are half-ass imo.. Anyways, I priced out a nice Promise controller like this for like $80 on newegg.. anyways.. good luck!

[taemun]

revenant: *cough* you call promise nice *cough*

t

[revenant]

For the price Promise controllers imo are nice.. I have owned many and they've all worked great for me.. RockRaid makes an ok $100 SATA controller also.. These are not even real hardware raid cards.. they make the cpu do raid computations (raid5 parity comps, etc..), but anyways.. /REAL/ hardware raid cards cost a LOT.. so for a sub $100 raid card Promise is pretty ok.

[Delta]

with 2 drives you can use either the red and one black or the red and one orange port. Both should work.
No idea why you're having problems, should just work, however, get the latest floppy create program from the intel site instead of using the asus cd, the intel drivers are a lot newer and give higher performance.

I grabbed a copy of XP Pro and i was able to install my Martix Raid 0 with no problems at all. Was a crappy copy of xp giving me all the grief!. Thanks for all the help. Working like a charm and FAST!

Thanks!

[abaldo]

I would still try to pull your ram 1 at a time and change slots just to test it. Its really sounds like thats the issue but even if it is you still need a bigger power supply I dont think thats going to fix your boot up issue though.
Ok, will try, thanks.

[Sparx]

Dont forget to clear cmos with onboard jumper once this is done power up system go into Bios and fix your setting save and exit it should be fine after that. I dont know why the checksum error I never had that show up before.
I have been working my OC with my PW5 DH now for about 4 days (as time permits) using the 1201 stock BIOS and want to eliminate the Shutdown Bug as much as the next guy but I don't want to funk up my rig doing so.

How much of an issue is this checksum errror some are getting when flashing 1503?

So far I have hit 375 x 9 12 hours stable testing with Orthos with no errors, should I wait a little longer for the next BIOS update?
sparx

[mikepaul]

Dont forget to clear cmos with onboard jumper once this is done power up system go into Bios and fix your setting save and exit it should be fine after that. I dont know why the checksum error I never had that show up before.What with the troubles 1407 gave me, despite numerous CMOS resets, I would prefer not to keep resetting just to find out it's still going to be an issue. Plenty of folks could boot 1407, even some with manual RAM settings but not Corsair brand RAM, so I'll wait a bit for a revised 1500 series...

[triggerc]

I have been working my OC with my PW5 DH now for about 4 days (as time permits) using the 1201 stock BIOS and want to eliminate the Shutdown Bug as much as the next guy but I don't want to funk up my rig doing so.

How much of an issue is this checksum errror some are getting when flashing 1503?

So far I have hit 375 x 9 12 hours stable testing with Orthos with no errors, should I wait a little longer for the next BIOS update?
sparx

Yeah that's about all i'm getting 12 hour stable with my cpu too, I also have a L628 fyi, but its A270. what volts are you running on? I have to use 1.41v to do 375mhz.

[pee4]

Ok, will try, thanks.

Please let us know how you get on with the bigger power supply. Mine does this too (the black screen on bootup) with an AcBel 550W power supply, but I never have to reset the CMOS. I just turn off the power supply and reboot the PC and it boots up fine. Incidently, I'm using Corsair XMS5400C4 with manual 5-5-5-15-5 timings in the bios at 800mhz (with 400 FSB).

[Sparx]

Yeah that's about all i'm getting 12 hour stable with my cpu too, I also have a L628 fyi, but its A270. what volts are you running on? I have to use 1.41v to do 375mhz.
I am using 1.4875vcore, but I think the board under volts. According to BIOS my idle temps are 32c, the HS does not even feel warm to the touch.

Ortho did not fail at 12 hrs I shut it off.
I have not tried for 380 as yet been at work. I need to copy down all my BIOS settings for the record before I flash, but not sure about the 1503 yet. :confused2
sparx

[Strikez]

I decided to play with my ram timing after flashing to bios 1503. I noticed that I can now lower my timing on my Corsair PC2 - 8500 ram to 4-3-4-4 2t @ 1010 mhz. Before flashing I couldnt get that low. Not sure if this will make a big difference to my computer application, but just letting others know thats one difference I noticed going to Bios 1503.

E6600 Fsb 303 @ 2.8 mhz
Corsair Ram 4-3-4-4 2t @ 1010 mhz
P5W DH Deluxe (1503)
Creative XFI fatality sound card
EVGA 7900 GTO
Power supply 700 watts OCZ

[Pjoeloe]

any of you guy`s know if the iP965 chipset is the same as the "C2" P965 ? I keep seeing those iP965 boards :)

[daos]

any of you guy`s know if the iP965 chipset is the same as the "C2" P965 ? I keep seeing those iP965 boards :)


Yes its the same just a new revision.

[Pjoeloe]

and how do you know that, do you`ve got an url with information that says what you say ?

[Falkentyne]

Um, no need to be rude, dude.
Use the search--this topic has been discussed already.

The new revision from Intel mostly just fixes some errata, but there was one good enhancement (don't remember). You may want to search the Asus thread as someone posted the spec sheets directly from Intel.

[kaiguy]

Hey all. What a great resource this thread/forum is!

Just got my P5W last week. RMA'd it because I felt the stock 51C idle mobo temp was a little high, even with AS5 on the NB and SB. My new board, stock thermal, has the same temps. Go figure. I guess I shouldn't worry about it if that's the case after 2 boards.

I've only been trying to overclock for a few hours, but I seem to be getting some pretty nice results. 3GHz at 1.275 vcore. I think I could even get the vcore lower as I have yet to have any boot issues/system instability.

The only thing I'm curious about are my temps. I'd like to run the OC 24/7, but I really don't know what's considered safe for regular use with the Core 2 Duo. With my Zalman 9500 at max I idle at about 48C core temp (36 speedfan) and load with Orthos at about 71C core temp (60 speedfan). Also, I'd like my system a bit more quiet, so I'd prefer to run the Zalman a little slower. Any suggestions on a good idle/load temp range for air?

Thanks!! Can't wait to keep on pushing this mobo!

[Mykou]

Hey all. What a great resource this thread/forum is!

Just got my P5W last week. RMA'd it because I felt the stock 51C idle mobo temp was a little high, even with AS5 on the NB and SB. My new board, stock thermal, has the same temps. Go figure. I guess I shouldn't worry about it if that's the case after 2 boards.

I've only been trying to overclock for a few hours, but I seem to be getting some pretty nice results. 3GHz at 1.275 vcore. I think I could even get the vcore lower as I have yet to have any boot issues/system instability.

The only thing I'm curious about are my temps. I'd like to run the OC 24/7, but I really don't know what's considered safe for regular use with the Core 2 Duo. With my Zalman 9500 at max I idle at about 48C core temp (36 speedfan) and load with Orthos at about 71C core temp (60 speedfan). Also, I'd like my system a bit more quiet, so I'd prefer to run the Zalman a little slower. Any suggestions on a good idle/load temp range for air?

Thanks!! Can't wait to keep on pushing this mobo!
here is what I got today ( running rig for 1h50 now) and 72h after remounting system ( chip lapped + better apply of thermal paste )
thermalright ultra 120 / 2 noiseblockers SX2@1700 RPM and 2 papst 120@1400 RPM for rear case gigabyte

1.47vcore

and less noiser than my girlfriend's P4 2ghz stock cooler in same room ..:p:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4528/idleashu1.jpg

before changes my chip idle at 46° under asus probe .....and TAT /core temp still good ^^

[kaiguy]

here is what I got today ( running rig for 1h50 now) and 72h after remounting system ( chip lapped + better apply of thermal paste )
thermalright ultra 120 / 2 noiseblockers SX2@1700 RPM and 2 papst 120@1400 RPM for rear case gigabyte

1.47vcore

and less noiser than my girlfriend's P4 2ghz stock cooler in same room ..

Those are the temps I would like to see. I'm stable (for at least 1.5 hours), but these idle/load temps just seem too high for my comfort.

I have the same case as yours. Would you suggest replacing the stock fans? I think I have to replace at least one because it's rattling my case.

Here's me...

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/866/newrt3.jpg

[roger_h99.nor]

I decided to play with my ram timing after flashing to bios 1503. I noticed that I can now lower my timing on my Corsair PC2 - 8500 ram to 4-3-4-4 2t @ 1010 mhz. Before flashing I couldnt get that low. Not sure if this will make a big difference to my computer application, but just letting others know thats one difference I noticed going to Bios 1503.

Good news - thanks for sharing. This issue has been bugging me for some
time now. Not been able to run CL4 no matter speed/voltage. Certanly gonna try this bios out.

[SKiLL3D]

BIOS1503 is now the official AsusFTP - not linked on the SupportSite yet

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/

iLL

[Mykou]

Those are the temps I would like to see. I'm stable (for at least 1.5 hours), but these idle/load temps just seem too high for my comfort.

I have the same case as yours. Would you suggest replacing the stock fans? I think I have to replace at least one because it's rattling my case.

Here's me...


I replace front fan and one rear fan stock with 2 papst more efficient IMO @1400 RPM 120 mm , still quiet , stock gigabyte are only 900rpm .

you should already see some difference

[SKiLL3D]

something weird just happened:
As i need only 3GHz on my E6600 i used FSB334(333 showes 2,99@bootscreen^^).
So i just flashed the BIOS from Asus' FTP. No Problems using AsusUpdate. So it restarts and i set all Settings like before. Only that this time is try FSB335 for fun.

Booting right away and i start SuperPi 1M to check if the 1MHz+@FSB(9MHz+@CPU) shows up in a Test. And than SuperPi shows me a great 16,812s with the first run! the weird Thing is, that with FSB334 my best run of many was 17,015s! Thats -0,2s faster.

I cant explain it, neither have i any theory. Is there any1 out there with the same weird Results? Maybe i was on the wrong/slow Strap before with FSB334? Anyone can do i fast 1M with the same FSB to check my Result?

iLL

[TWY]

Got a problem with Vcore settings.

When I set to Auto (which is default CPU Vcore), Asus Probe and the BIOS Hardware Monitor gives me 1.17V-1.18V.

But when I decided to o/c the chip, the lowest Vcore setting in the BIOS is 1.225V! :eek: Setting to 1.225V gives me the same reported 1.18V and 1.25V gives me reported 1.21V. So I'm wondering is the board pumping 1.25V, or it's only 1.21V as reported by software?

I'm on the 1305 BIOS that came with the board. :)

And I got another qn: The earlier chips had higher default Vcores of around 1.30V and the 'general guideline' is 1.50V on air-cooling. Now that we're seeing chips with 1.2V-thereabouts default Vcores, is the safe limit still 1.50V, or it should be dropped to 1.4V-ish (meaning we follow a +0.2V max. limit)?

[sombrio]

Hey all. What a great resource this thread/forum is!

Just got my P5W last week. RMA'd it because I felt the stock 51C idle mobo temp was a little high, even with AS5 on the NB and SB. My new board, stock thermal, has the same temps. Go figure. I guess I shouldn't worry about it if that's the case after 2 boards.

I've only been trying to overclock for a few hours, but I seem to be getting some pretty nice results. 3GHz at 1.275 vcore. I think I could even get the vcore lower as I have yet to have any boot issues/system instability.

The only thing I'm curious about are my temps. I'd like to run the OC 24/7, but I really don't know what's considered safe for regular use with the Core 2 Duo. With my Zalman 9500 at max I idle at about 48C core temp (36 speedfan) and load with Orthos at about 71C core temp (60 speedfan). Also, I'd like my system a bit more quiet, so I'd prefer to run the Zalman a little slower. Any suggestions on a good idle/load temp range for air?

Thanks!! Can't wait to keep on pushing this mobo!


That temperature is normal for that board. Look at here.

http://support.asus.com/faq/faq.aspx?no=D7F52826-545A-E665-58CE-CB2AC36794D9&SLanguage=en-us

[Sparx]

I got my rig up to 380 x 9 stable with Orthos running over 12 hours.
I am approaching my goal of 3.5.
However it requires 1.51 volts to be stable with Orthos. I can get into Windoze with 400 fsb, but stability is the #1priority.

I see some of you have temp monitoring programs through Windows, could someone provide a link for those? I would like to get a reading on CPU temps as I am running Orthos.

BIOS says my temps are 32-33C which is decent with 1.51 volts and air cooling.
I am still on the 1201 (shipping) BIOS and running SPD.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/sparx21/orthosintel380x9.jpg

Sparx

[davexl]

I see some of you have temp monitoring programs through Windows, could someone provide a link for those? I would like to get a reading on CPU temps as I am running Orthos.
Sparx

Systool is great, and it can be used to provide data for Samurize, so you can make your own displays..

[Mykou]

I got my rig up to 380 x 9 stable with Orthos running over 12 hours.
I am approaching my goal of 3.5.
However it requires 1.51 volts to be stable with Orthos. I can get into Windoze with 400 fsb, but stability is the #1priority.

I see some of you have temp monitoring programs through Windows, could someone provide a link for those? I would like to get a reading on CPU temps as I am running Orthos.

BIOS says my temps are 32-33C which is decent with 1.51 volts and air cooling.I am still on the 1201 (shipping) BIOS and running SPD.


Sparx

you call it decent with such temps ?:confused: what cooling do you have though ??

3.5ghz idle is awesome you mean for these temps and vcore +1.5!!

... :slapass:

:p:

[kristjan]

hi, i am looking for the best bios for P5W DH? what do you recommend for me?

[lawrywild]

1503

[Strikez]

hi, i am looking for the best bios for P5W DH? what do you recommend for me?

I tried several different bioses for this board but overall so far I would have to say 1503 also. Good luck

[lawrywild]

Updated the front page a little :)

[Plaicd]

Bios 1305 I could set manual mem timings to 4-4-9-4 in bios with bios 1503 I cant get the board to boot with any settings other than spd.

This is at 405fsb with same bios settings and corsair 8500c5.

I like that the board dosent cut off all the power with 1503 but the memory thing now sucks.

[roger_h99.nor]

The 1503 bios didn't resolve my CL4 issue with my 8500 C5.
Still not able to boot with cl set to 4 - gets a BSOD with a error on a 'USBxxx.sys file.. Any suggestions?

[Sparx]

What about the Checksum error (just after flashing) 1503 is that a none issue?
sparx

[phile]

It is perfectly normal to get a checksum error first boot after a BIOS flash. What would not be normal is if you had a checksum error on subsequent reboots.

-phil

[Sparx]

Ok
Thanks Phil

[Mykou]

1503 doesn't affect cas @411 fsb ( but stuck @451 mhz 4.05 ghz grrrrrrrrr )


my rig PC6400 cas 4 :

http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/3629/cachemem1ym4.png

my rig PC6400 cas 3:

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/9149/cachemem3cz6.png

[Pjoeloe]

Um, no need to be rude, dude.
Use the search--this topic has been discussed already.
The new revision from Intel mostly just fixes some errata, but there was one good enhancement (don't remember). You may want to search the Asus thread as someone posted the spec sheets directly from Intel.
I know what it fixes, I know how to use the search :rolleyes: , I just want to know if the C2 revision is named as ip965. :)

[Pol1977]

Hi everyone... I've been watching this thread for a few days and I decided to join... Thanks everyone for all the wonderful info...

I've been working on overclocking my rig...
This is what I've got so far

MB: Asus P5W DH Deluxe @ 400MHz FSB @1.65V MHC
CPU: Core 2 Duo E6400 @ 400x8=3200 @1.475V
2x1GB Transcend Jetram 667 @ 600MHz

The memory is not stable @ 800Mhz even if I increase the voltage for it. Suggestions appreciated. There is no other setting between 600 and 800 MHz for 400MHz motherboard clock.

My CPU load temp is 70 C according to ASUS PC Probe and 75 C according to Core Temp Beta 0.93, Cooled by a thermalright ultra 120 with an ultrasilent Enermax 12mm fan @ 950 rpm and 3 lian li 120mm fans on my lian li V2000 II case @ 1000 rpm. The whole system is whisper-quiet

I think this is it for me... Maybe if there are any suggestions memorywise, I'll try doing something with it...

BTW... People claiming they got 30something C load temps @ ~1.5 V with very quiet ~5000rpm !!!! fans are probably lying... There is no way this can happen.

Also, Orthos didn't work for me... It gave me stable results for hours @ 400 MHz motherboard clock, 3.2 CPU and 800MHz memory, all on stock (auto) voltage while two instances of prime would give me errors and my system wasn't stable while working... So, orthos users beware... Try using two primes ;)

[jimborae]

Hmm 1503 is an improvement in some respects for me & my Geil ram. I can now set timings manually up to around 375 fsb after that things go screwy. Can't overclock as high as I could with 1407 or 1102 though.

[z3r0_pt]

Hi all, im trying to update my BIOS to 1503, but unsuccesfull...
I've the 1305, i've already try during the POST by pressing Alt+F2 and by EZ Flash 2 in bios but always give me a error :(
When i try during the POST it gives me an error message that can't flash bios, and during the EZ Flash 2 in bios it gives me the message " No Boot Signature Found in File", as anyone know what this is about??? Im triyng to flash with a USB pen like i always did...
Sorry my bad english :slap:
Ty all!!!

[Pol1977]

I updated my 1407 BIOS to the 1503 today using the AsusUpdate utility from within windows. I rebooted, loaded setup defaults in the BIOS, rebooted again and then did my BIOS settings... No error messages whatsoever. Everything went like clockwork.

1503 is a much better BIOS than 1407 in all respects.

[z3r0_pt]

I updated my 1407 BIOS to the 1503 today using the AsusUpdate utility from within windows. I rebooted, loaded setup defaults in the BIOS, rebooted again and then did my BIOS settings... No error messages whatsoever. Everything went like clockwork.

1503 is a much better BIOS than 1407 in all respects.

Well i can't update bios from AsusUpdate utility from windows because ive a creative X-fi soundcard, and is a known issue that asus update cannot work when you have a creative soundcard installed, but thx anyway...
Any help would be great...

[Strikez]

The 1503 bios didn't resolve my CL4 issue with my 8500 C5.
Still not able to boot with cl set to 4 - gets a BSOD with a error on a 'USBxxx.sys file.. Any suggestions?

Did you clear cmos after flashing to 1503 and reset to default setting then reboot and go back into bios and play with your new setting this is what I did.

Also I have legacy usb off and my cpu x9 fsb 336 @1.28 v ( I know fsb is nt that high but all I want is 3 ghz out of this board). My corsair 8500 @ 1008 mhz 2.2 volts 4-3-4-4 2t. FSB volts at 1.3 and PCI E at 110 ( I prob can put it back to 100 will try it later).

Not sure if any of this helps you but good luck.

[Grendel66]

Well i can't update bios from AsusUpdate utility from windows because ive a creative X-fi soundcard, and is a known issue that asus update cannot work when you have a creative soundcard installed, but thx anyway...
Any help would be great...
Use autoruns from SysInternals to deactivate all Creative entries in the Logon tab. Reboot, install ASUS Update and flash the BIOS, don't immediately reboot. Reactivate the CL entries w/ Autoruns and reboot.

[abaldo]

Please let us know how you get on with the bigger power supply. Mine does this too (the black screen on bootup) with an AcBel 550W power supply, but I never have to reset the CMOS. I just turn off the power supply and reboot the PC and it boots up fine. Incidently, I'm using Corsair XMS5400C4 with manual 5-5-5-15-5 timings in the bios at 800mhz (with 400 FSB).
Hi all.
As I've suspected, my new 600W power supply unit didn't solved the boot issue :(
I've suspected, because a lack of power suply at boot time should definitely give me issues at load time, I keep thinking that this is related to energy saving or power control or whatever name I should call the mobo features that turns off the monitor after idle a while.
I think I will give a try for the 1503, because once booted, the system is really stable (I call 32 hours pretty stable, even for orthos):

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/7577/systemqr9.png

I am going to travel for a week, so I let you know about the 1503 when I'm back.

[Brahmzy]

I'm lovin' 1503.

[Plaicd]

I played around with 1503 and found that at 405fsb (I also tried 399) that if I set the memory speed setting to 810mhz then I cant set the memory timings to anything other than by spd or the board will not boot even if I set them to the same settings as by spd sets.

However if I set the memory speed to the one slower I think its 610mhz or the one higher something like 1050mhz the board boots fine with manual memory settings.

Strange.

[abaldo]

...I am going to travel for a week, so I let you know about the 1503 when I'm back.
I couldn't wait... so I´ve flashed 1503 and... it finally booted without the need to clear the CMOS
:banana: :toast: :banana:
I just need to make sure that the "mandatory CMOS clear to boot" issue has been solved completely, but this will take time...
I am running another orthos test, and here is the results:

IDLE
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4472/systemidletw0.png

LOAD for 5 minutes
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8905/systemload5minpe2.png

LOAD for 23 minutes
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6281/systemload23minah6.png

SuperPi 1M (<17 seconds):
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2154/superpiip6.png

Now running:
CPU @ 9x343 auto vcore (1.21V 56~58ºC CoreTemp; 1.29V 47~50ºC SpeedFan);
DDR2 @ 515 (still SPD - didn't tried manual yet) auto vdimm (don´t know how to measure yet)
:eek: PSU 450W!!!!!!! :eek:

After I get my required stability, I will start following the guides and do the mods and laps too see how far I can 7x24 OC.

I've just retested Doom3 with all settings on max and again, no problem at all

Now I am very happy again! :woot:

[sniggle]

For what it's worth, I flashed 1503 downloaded from ASUS' FTP using afudos and a bootable USB drive. Some of you reported issues with checksums but I had no problems here. Running at my usual overclock, no time to test anything differently at the moment.

[z3r0_pt]

Use autoruns from SysInternals to deactivate all Creative entries in the Logon tab. Reboot, install ASUS Update and flash the BIOS, don't immediately reboot. Reactivate the CL entries w/ Autoruns and reboot.

Ok, ill will try that, i let you know if went everything ok.
thx for helping :toast:

[z3r0_pt]

Ok, ill will try that, i let you know if went everything ok.
thx for helping :toast:

Didn't work either :( :confused:
Any help???

[Pol1977]

To all people using Orthos: Did you try using two instances of Prime?

There is a known issue and it has happened to me, that Orthos will show a stable configuration while prime will give errors/lockups.

Checking with conventional means (running games, rendering etc) showed me that Orthos-stable is not actually stable while two instances of prime stable IS stable.

All you have to do is have two folders with prime in them, run both primes, set them to use one cpu core each and do your tests.

It would be interesting to see how many of the so called stable overclocks described by people using orthos would survive.

Remember, it's not about showing off, it's about stability first, speed second ;)

[z3r0_pt]

Didn't work either :( :confused:
Any help???

Already Done!!!:banana: The problem was my flash drive :slap:
Sry for my questions kinda noobie :slapass:
Thx all for helping me :woot:

[Sparx]

To all people using Orthos: Did you try using two instances of Prime?

There is a known issue and it has happened to me, that Orthos will show a stable configuration while prime will give errors/lockups.

Checking with conventional means (running games, rendering etc) showed me that Orthos-stable is not actually stable while two instances of prime stable IS stable.

All you have to do is have two folders with prime in them, run both primes, set them to use one cpu core each and do your tests.

It would be interesting to see how many of the so called stable overclocks described by people using orthos would survive.

Remember, it's not about showing off, it's about stability first, speed second ;)

I run 3d03 then 3d05 back to back then I run ORthos to determine if stable.
sparx

[Pol1977]

I run 3d03 then 3d05 back to back then I run ORthos to determine if stable.
sparx

I'm not saying that your system is unstable... Just run the two primes to make sure ;)

[syne_24]

I'm lovin' 1503.


haha me too..no more sudden death reboot :D

although i still get post hang whenever I set divider too high..

[infrared]

I'm not saying that your system is unstable... Just run the two primes to make sure ;)

Orthos pretty much IS 2x prime95's. Prime95 is what it's based on

It's just a lot more convenient to use. ;)

[Sparx]

I'm not saying that your system is unstable... Just run the two primes to make sure ;)
No, I say it is unstable when it won't pass the three tests. ;)
sparx

[pee4]

Hi all.
As I've suspected, my new 600W power supply unit didn't solved the boot issue :(

Thanks for that

[Pol1977]

Orthos pretty much IS 2x prime95's. Prime95 is what it's based on

It's just a lot more convenient to use. ;)

I couldn't agree more... It is very convenient... Only it gave me no errors while my system was unstable and when running two primes gave me errors... I have Orthos Beta 0.93. Is there a newer, more reliable version? Why don't you try running two primes (although unconvenient) to validate your orthos results? Just once ;)

[Sparx]

Had a successful flash to 1503 thru EZ Flash in BIOS using a floppy.

No issues so far.:D

Testing @ 375 x 9 now for stability and hope to get to 3.5 or 3.6.

Cheers for the elimination of the Shutdown BUG! :toast:
If this CPU does not make 3.5 stable I will have to try the L630A768.

sparx

[Pjoeloe]

I think The DFI LANPARTY is back !! DFI LANParty UT ICFX3200 T2R/G (aka RD600) Rev 2

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=246517

looks great :) thanks EVILCOSMOS, RD600 here I come :p

full story see http://www.pcmoddingmy.com/news.php?extend.1904

http://www.nokytech.net/images/news/dfi/rd600-2.jpg

http://www.pcmoddingmy.com/e107_images/newspost_images/dfird6002.jpg

http://www.pcmoddingmy.com/e107_images/newspost_images/dfird6001.jpg

[triggerc]

No cooling on the NB? man that northbridge is gonna get toasty once overclocked.

[775911]

DFI also left one of the heatsinks exposed for the pictures but we expect DFI to have an active cooler for the chipset. The exposed NB chipset is actually the ATI RD600 chipset. We also noticed that NB chipset in the picture does not have mounting holes around it. Instead, DFI went with a clip-mounting with the board.

:cool:

[davexl]

I couldn't agree more... It is very convenient... Only it gave me no errors while my system was unstable and when running two primes gave me errors... I have Orthos Beta 0.93. Is there a newer, more reliable version? Why don't you try running two primes (although unconvenient) to validate your orthos results? Just once ;)

Done it many times, and had no difference. I suggest as you are the one trying to convince the world Orthos is useless, then perhaps you could show us screen grabs and settings of where and when this occurs, and if it is repeatable.

Just saying so isn't good enough :nono:

You sure it is not something like running different types of tests in Prime and not Orthos? You can have for example a OC/mem problem that passes small FFTs always, but fails on large, or vice versa...

[Sparx]

Davexl

On your 6600 overclock to 3.7 using about 1.56 vcore are you on air or water?

sparx

[davexl]

Davexl

On your 6600 overclock to 3.7 using about 1.56 vcore are you on air or water?

sparx

Air - Thermalright Ultra-120 with push pull Scythe fans - running nice and quiet. The hard drives are the noisest thing...

It is a bit borderline for temperatures coming into summer - I like my fans to be nearly silent, and I am still not comfortable running that much vcore on my main machine. Call me a girly-clocker :rolleyes:

My 24/7 overclock for summer is 3600Mhz at 1.525v - 48 hr Orhos stable - load temps 54C orthos, about 40-42C load temps with anything I actually run on it. So plenty cool.

[JokerCPoC]

Air - Thermalright Ultra-120 with push pull Scythe fans - running nice and quiet. The hard drives are the noisest thing...

It is a bit borderline for temperatures coming into summer - I like my fans to be nearly silent, and I am still not comfortable running that much vcore on my main machine. Call me a girly-clocker :rolleyes:

My 24/7 overclock for summer is 3600Mhz at 1.525v - 48 hr Orhos stable - load temps 54C orthos, about 40-42C load temps with anything I actually run on it. So plenty cool.

Ok, I like It being quiet too, But I'm a realist, My C2Q cpu(Yep I have 1, See the pic below) will be cooled by a Vigor Monsoon II hsf-tec and I might exchange the fan for a faster and yeah a louder one(46cfm vs 142cfm), But I'm also insulating the case to make It somewhat more quiet, It's a Thermaltake Mambo case with an air filter built in, The motherboard is a P5W DH with 2Gb OCZ PC2-8000 ram(Gold, 5-6-6-15).

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n107/JokerCPoC/P5W%20pics%20and%20C2Q%20plus%20Angel/IMG_0022.jpg

[triggerc]

hrm i don't know if you'd want to insulate that thing, i mean, doesn't that hsf-tec thing create a lot of hot air in the case? that might not be good if the hot air can't get out. but do keep us posted on how the cooler works, i might pick one up if it actually works better than decent water.

[Mykou]

is it worth replacing stock cooler on mofsets ?

[lawrywild]

is it worth replacing stock cooler on mofsets ?

I am, mosfets don't get hot anyway, no point changing stock or even having a cooler on there at all.. The stock one is more dissipation area for the northbridge and also so you can have the option of actively cooling the northbridge.


BTW- I see lots of people calling the stock coolers copper... they're not, it's just painted/annodized (whatever) aluminium. There IS a very thin layer of copper on the base of the northbridge cooler, but the rest is aluminium. Also the heatpipe is aluminium and it's very poorly soldered. I can actually twist the heatpipe :stick:

[NO1B4ME]

I think The DFI LANPARTY is back !! DFI LANParty UT ICFX3200 T2R/G (aka RD600) Rev 2


Why didn't you start a new thread on that board. This is a thread FOR ASUS P5W-DH not DFI :mad:

[Sparx]

Air - Thermalright Ultra-120 with push pull Scythe fans - running nice and quiet. The hard drives are the noisest thing...

It is a bit borderline for temperatures coming into summer - I like my fans to be nearly silent, and I am still not comfortable running that much vcore on my main machine. Call me a girly-clocker :rolleyes:

My 24/7 overclock for summer is 3600Mhz at 1.525v - 48 hr Orhos stable - load temps 54C orthos, about 40-42C load temps with anything I actually run on it. So plenty cool.
Do you like the 120 over the Big Typhoon?
sparx

[Sparx]

Why didn't you start a new thread on that board. This is a thread FOR ASUS P5W-DH not DFI :mad:
:up:
:yepp:

[davexl]

Do you like the 120 over the Big Typhoon?
sparx

yeah, both very good, but the Ultra 120 is clearly better with the same fan.

The typhoon does well with a ducted side intake, sealed, so that the rear exhaust fan also adds to the pressure sucking fresh air in.

But that was before the Ultra 120, which has the benefit of being able to use 2 quiet fans push/pull. Plus if you duct and seal the rear of these two fans to the rear exhaust, you get no less than a 3 fan sandwich - which gives very good cooling at near-silent speeds. (not to mention a system that can handle any 2 fan failures - lol)

Given that the Ultra 120 is being fed warmer case air rather than fresh air, the fact that it beats the Typhoon by about 4-5 degrees with less noise is great.

I think there are one or two coolers like the Noctua and Infinity that are very close to the 120 - I'm sure there will be many to argue the point too, I haven't tried them.

[JokerCPoC]

hrm i don't know if you'd want to insulate that thing, i mean, doesn't that hsf-tec thing create a lot of hot air in the case? that might not be good if the hot air can't get out. but do keep us posted on how the cooler works, i might pick one up if it actually works better than decent water.
The insulation is for noise reduction, Not to trap heat as air can enter and exit at will. But I'll keep making the pics.:D

[X7007]

Hi, I am having a conflict problem with the SMBus, i dunno what cause that, but i dont checked it before to see if something changed it.

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/2905/untitledha6.jpg

i am using AHCI with ALEP and ASP. all drivers are on, Nvidia Lastest Beta 92.91, Intel Chipset 8.1, Intel Matrix Storge Manager 6.1, logitech 3.10 driver, Zboard 4.6 driver, and XFI lastest creative site driver. i disabled all unecessary bios options , SoundCard, PCI LAN 2, all old PORTS and so on.

i have no idea what to do,

any help?

and everything works good, played 8-9 hr in SCARFACE with no error or anything else, and other games too.

**Guys please check if u have the same problem, i updated the bios using the EZ flash from the bios, from A: new Floppy Diskette.

the problem was on 1407 and its still on 1507, i dont know if it was before , with 1305

[Tutto]

I just flashed to 1503 without a hitch. I'm sure glad asus decided to be "vapochill friendly"

[deadlock7]

Actually i bought my 4th p5wdh and surely the last one.The first one(1.02,rev 1.65) clocked very well and liked vmch.Too bad it couldn't boot more than 414fsb from bios(only from win).
The second one (1.02,rev1.85) didn't like a lot vmch but i had problem identifying my ecc ram from bios.
The third one (1.03,rev1.85) didn't like vmch and had fsb wall around 435.
The last one (1.03,rev1.85) didn't like vmch also and had fsb wall at around 440.Moreover i have the same issue with my ecc rams problem.Surely this is the last one..good luck guys!

[Sparx]

Davexl-
Do you have any info on how the Ninja Plus compares to the 120? Also which model Scythe fan are use using, 1600 RPM?????
http://www.coolerguys.com/840556035572.html

I read good things about Ninja, but cannot recall which model. :slobber:

On another note, seems my overclock is going along better with the 1503 bios. :clap:

Hope I can nail 3.5 down by tomorrow.

What is the limit on voltage (vcore) to be safe- anyone?

thx up front
sparx

[Falkentyne]

Davexl-
Do you have any info on how the Ninja Plus compares to the 120? Also which model Scythe fan are use using, 1600 RPM?????
http://www.coolerguys.com/840556035572.html

I read good things about Ninja, but cannot recall which model. :slobber:

On another note, seems my overclock is going along better with the 1503 bios. :clap:

Hope I can nail 3.5 down by tomorrow.

What is the limit on voltage (vcore) to be safe- anyone?

thx up front
sparx

To be safe, keep vcore below 1.55v in BIOS and keep the coretemps below 65C. This should cause no problems.

[Sparx]

To be safe, keep vcore below 1.55v in BIOS and keep the coretemps below 65C. This should cause no problems.
Got ya, thanks.
Been looking at coolers, the Big Typhoon is OK but. Trying to determine if the Scythe Ninja Plus rev. b or the Thermalright Ultra 120 is best.

sparx

[TWY]

Got ya, thanks.
Been looking at coolers, the Big Typhoon is OK but. Trying to determine if the Scythe Ninja Plus rev. b or the Thermalright Ultra 120 is best.

sparx

I'll take the Ultra 120 over the Ninja. I used the Ninja before on a Pentium D rig clocked to 3.9GHz, and it was only 1 degree better than a Thermalright SI-120 on full load. So I promptly sold the Ninja the next day and used back the SI-120. :(

I'm thinking of upgrading from my SI-120 (which is now used on my C2D rig), to the U-120. However, I do note that the PWM and NB (especially) will get much reduced airflow comparatively. I'm running fanless atm for my NB because I'm using the SI-120, but I'm not sure if that's workable with the U-120? I won't be using a FFB fan and I noticed that the fan is slightly bigger than the U-120 size, so by right some air will 'radiate' outwards from the fan and still cool the surrounding? :confused:

[Pjoeloe]

Why didn't you start a new thread on that board. This is a thread FOR ASUS P5W-DH not DFI :mad:
because this pics are nice, and the info is too. Every upgrade is a good upgrade

[davexl]

I'll take the Ultra 120 over the Ninja. I used the Ninja before on a Pentium D rig clocked to 3.9GHz, and it was only 1 degree better than a Thermalright SI-120 on full load. So I promptly sold the Ninja the next day and used back the SI-120. :(

I'm thinking of upgrading from my SI-120 (which is now used on my C2D rig), to the U-120. However, I do note that the PWM and NB (especially) will get much reduced airflow comparatively. I'm running fanless atm for my NB because I'm using the SI-120, but I'm not sure if that's workable with the U-120? I won't be using a FFB fan and I noticed that the fan is slightly bigger than the U-120 size, so by right some air will 'radiate' outwards from the fan and still cool the surrounding? :confused:

You hear a lot about it, but the saying goes that if you are stable you do not have a heat problem.

I place a near silent 120mm fan underneath the Ultra-120 and have zero problems.

[Falkentyne]

because this pics are nice, and the info is too. Every upgrade is a good upgrade

Who cares?
Don't crap others' threads with off topic posts.
Please follow forum rules so this place keeps at least a semblance of order?

Or maybe I'll crap your thread about your computer question with how to win at UT2004 or something.....

[Mykou]

Got ya, thanks.
Been looking at coolers, the Big Typhoon is OK but. Trying to determine if the Scythe Ninja Plus rev. b or the Thermalright Ultra 120 is best.

sparx
TR ultra 120 works fine for me .Managed to put 2 noiseblockers SX2@1700 RPM push/pull

lawrywild ( thanks for your reply :) ) said we can keep stock cooler for mofsets ,but if I were you I 'd replace the NB's one .

cooler NB , higher fsb

temps TAT is 37° idle ( l decrease vcore to 1.43 bios and stable running games like gothic 3 , dark messiah ,titan quest ,fear or Flight sim X - orthos large fft needs 1.47 to be stable +3hours )

just make sure your IHS has good contact with your rad ( many people had to lap their chip cos concave )

[Sparx]

This might be OT but I want to test my RAM to see if it may be holding me back. The G.Skill 4600 is rated to hit 800, now my overclock seems to be stalled at 387 or so with 1.5375 vcore. I need to know if it is the CPU or the RAM.

To test the RAM is it best to drop the multiplier down to 7 and jack the FSB up past 400 and run Memorytest86 or Othos?

Appreciate your assistance on this one.
sparx

[Pol1977]

Done it many times, and had no difference. I suggest as you are the one trying to convince the world Orthos is useless, then perhaps you could show us screen grabs and settings of where and when this occurs, and if it is repeatable.

Just saying so isn't good enough :nono:

You sure it is not something like running different types of tests in Prime and not Orthos? You can have for example a OC/mem problem that passes small FFTs always, but fails on large, or vice versa...

I started some tests to take screenshots of what I was claiming... Turns out I had flashed to 1503 BIOS without clearing the CMOS afterwards... Now I'm runnig 400MHz FSB on my E6400 (400x8=3200) and 800Mhz on the RAM all on stock voltage except the MHC which I have to up to 1.65V or my system locks up from time to time.

So, because of the erratic behaviour my system showed due to not clearing the CMOS it is obvious that my observations were mistaken. I'll try Orthos again as it is a lot more convenient and see what I get now...

400MHz fsb on stock voltage... mmm, maybe I should try for more :P

Sorry if I inconvenienced any of you guys :)

[Pol1977]

As everyone must have noticed, the stock nothbridge cooler runs really hot... I stuck a thermometer between its fins and I got over 70C!!! Is there a better but still QUIET solution that someone has tried? Is it easy to remove the stock NB cooler with the heatpipe connenting it to the cooler on the mosfets? Is there any significant gain?

[Sparx]

As everyone must have noticed, the stock nothbridge cooler runs really hot... I stuck a thermometer between its fins and I got over 70C!!! Is there a better but still QUIET solution that someone has tried? Is it easy to remove the stock NB cooler with the heatpipe connenting it to the cooler on the mosfets? Is there any significant gain?
I put a small 40 mm (but somewhat noisy) Radio Shack fan on top of the HS after removing the tin foil ASUS cap. I stuck it on with hot glue applied to each corner of the fan, I have no concern about it falling off. I did not remove the factory TIM, since the HS got so warm I have to conclude that it is making good contact and drawing the heat off the chip. I do need to purchase a fan that produces less noise however.

I am using 1.65 MCH volts.

I have not taken a temp reading with a probe but I can later and post result here.

Yes that MCH does get mighty hot. :eek:
sparx

[cadaveca]

I had replaced the northbridge-mosfet cooler, and foudn I wasn't stable anymore. After inspecting the heatsinks, making sure they were hot, I tried again. No difference. Removed the cooler, only to find that it was NOT MAKING CONTACT AT ALL with the northbridge, but was still very hot to the touch. Something to keep in mind.

[Pol1977]

Is there anyone who replaced the stock northbridge heatsink with something quiet, preferably passive, and got better results? Or even replaced the stock thermal paste on it with something better like AS5?

[triggerc]

the first thing i did when i got the board was AS5 the NB and SB, but i just bought a swiftech mcx159-cu, and i'll see if this will get me past 380mzh.

[pee4]

I'm thinking of upgrading from my SI-120 (which is now used on my C2D rig), to the U-120. However, I do note that the PWM and NB (especially) will get much reduced airflow comparatively. I'm running fanless atm for my NB because I'm using the SI-120, but I'm not sure if that's workable with the U-120? I won't be using a FFB fan and I noticed that the fan is slightly bigger than the U-120 size, so by right some air will 'radiate' outwards from the fan and still cool the surrounding? :confused:

I'm using a SI-120. I reversed the fan and cut a hole in the side of my case (put a 120mm fan grill over the hole) and made up a small plastic duct to duct the hot air from the cpu straight outside of my case. I put a small fan on the northbridge.

[lawrywild]

Is there anyone who replaced the stock northbridge heatsink with something quiet, preferably passive, and got better results? Or even replaced the stock thermal paste on it with something better like AS5?

yeh fanless Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II Lapped. Gained about 20mhz max fsb :cool:

[Sparx]

I had replaced the northbridge-mosfet cooler, and foudn I wasn't stable anymore. After inspecting the heatsinks, making sure they were hot, I tried again. No difference. Removed the cooler, only to find that it was NOT MAKING CONTACT AT ALL with the northbridge, but was still very hot to the touch. Something to keep in mind.
Was it the factory installed cooler or your replacement that was not making contact?

sparx

[Sparx]

yeh fanless Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II Lapped. Gained about 20mhz max fsb :cool:
Is this a liquid cooler?

[lawrywild]

Is this a liquid cooler?

:stick: no..

[JoeBar]

:stick: no..
Thank God... :p:

[Sparx]

:stick: no..
Ok - I guess my Google gave me the wrong item.

[triggerc]

yeh fanless Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II Lapped. Gained about 20mhz max fsb :cool:

doesn't the extreme spirit II have a 40mm led fan on it? or did you take it off. I went with the mcx159-cu cus it has a slightly stronger fan, 18db, not bad for me considering both fans on my tower112 are 80mm 73cfm fans, which are really loud.

[cadaveca]

Was it the factory installed cooler or your replacement that was not making contact?

sparx
I was changing the paste onthe stock cooler when i did it. :slapass: NO CONTACT. thermalpaste didn't even touch the heatsink.:slap:

[Sparx]

I am running Core Temp 0.93 and while testing with Orthos my temps are 66C.
In Bios my temps after testing were 33c, but of course the test was stopped for some time. Is Core Temp know to be accurate. My ambient is 80F today.


What is the "T junction" temperation reporting on in Core Temp?

sparx

[JumpingJack]

I am running Core Temp 0.93 and while testing with Orthos my temps are 66C.
In Bios my temps after testing were 33c, but of course the test was stopped for some time. Is Core Temp know to be accurate. My ambient is 80F today.


What is the "T junction" temperation reporting on in Core Temp?

sparx

Overclockers.com posted a 2 page article by the Core Temp author,
http://www.overclockers.com/articles1378/

Informative.

jack

[bigtroutz]

"Tjunction (or TjunctionMax): This value stands for the maximum temperature at the junction between the processor die and the PCB it sits on, this is usually much higher than the TCaseMax value. "
ex http://www.overclockers.com/articles1378/index02.asp

"TCaseMax: This value stands for the maximum temperature at the dead-center at the top of the processor core or the IHS which will ensure 100% stability and safety."

The authors article states that coretemp is more accurate on intel which calibrates the measurements. Read the article tho.

3 minutes heh

[Mr Footlong]

yeh fanless Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II Lapped. Gained about 20mhz max fsb :cool:

I ordered a Thermalright HR-05 after my EK chipset waterblock decided to crack it's top and came within a few seconds of leaking big time and blowing my system to smithereens lol (Not a dodgy product, just me doing things up "Man Tight©". Luckily I heard the top crack and thought arse, just catching it in time and powering down.

That chipset cooler is a fair bit bigger than the Thermaltake one and I am curious as to which is better. Has anyone been using one of the HR05's on here for a while and how do you find it? It hasn't arrived yet so I haven't been able to play :(.

[Sparx]

"Tjunction (or TjunctionMax): This value stands for the maximum temperature at the junction between the processor die and the PCB it sits on, this is usually much higher than the TCaseMax value. "
ex http://www.overclockers.com/articles1378/index02.asp

"TCaseMax: This value stands for the maximum temperature at the dead-center at the top of the processor core or the IHS which will ensure 100% stability and safety."

The authors article states that coretemp is more accurate on intel which calibrates the measurements. Read the article tho.

3 minutes heh
Thanks, the Tjunction on mine is 85C.
i am just wondering if 66c is ok for core temps, this is my first Intel build ever so I am not up on everything yet.
sparx

[lawrywild]

doesn't the extreme spirit II have a 40mm led fan on it? or did you take it off. I went with the mcx159-cu cus it has a slightly stronger fan, 18db, not bad for me considering both fans on my tower112 are 80mm 73cfm fans, which are really loud.

Yeh, took the fan and fan casing off ofcourse :)

HR-05 is better but MUCH bigger and heavier..

[Jungle+=]

Here is one oddity that I haven't seen discussed in this thread....

I have been having issues getting a sharp image with my new video card and did some digging .I came across this error in system information for the 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller-27DA :
"Input/Output Range 0400 - 041F used by:Motherboard resources"
As seen in picture below ...
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/6084/smbusconflicthm6.jpg

I read in the ABXzone forums http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1196416that a SMBus 2,0 driver update would fix it however Intel has no such driver for download ..Any clues as to how to fix this ? I have a feeling that this may be causing some of my video quality issues as well .