View Full Version : ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread
Prelim
10-05-2006, 01:22 PM
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Awesome , asus keep going on !:clap:
seems P5W doesn't have so many issues for you .. :slapass: :slapass: ...
asus support really sucks...seems P5WDH is dead already, im still waiting for the resolution of SPD bug at +370fsb (tRFC related)
mikepaul
10-05-2006, 01:46 PM
P5W DH >the only and same description line " support new cpu"
P5B >14 lines ...
Awesome , asus keep going on !:clap:
The 1407 BIOS locks up my machine, and while I was asking ASUS support if they'd look into the problem (I'm back to 1305) I mentioned the changelog issue. I was told that it was "probably proprietary information" about the changes, and my suggestion for details was likely to be ignored.
Clap indeed...
JoeBar
10-05-2006, 01:48 PM
I assume you meant 1.85vmch? All of the older boards should have 1.65vmch but only those with serial 68MOAG will be 1.85vmch. Also below the ram slot it should be atleast 0628
Thnx for clearing this out for me. :)
phogger
10-05-2006, 01:54 PM
hi guys,
well, i have like cpu with bad mojo or i'm just doing something terribly wrong. i got e6300 on p5b dlx with 2x1gb of goodram, 7600gt and a wireless card. the thing is i just can't get any serrious speed out of this thing now that i got oc. the last stable speed is at 330fsb, i tried like everything. got the bios stuff like in that thread, i'm runing 1:1 with ram which i think is not the problem since i had them runing stable at 500ddr, put the vcore to 1.4, cpuz reads like 1.352, bumped up the other voltages too, temperatures are nice since i got big typhoon cooling the thing, disconected everything i don't need in bios which is 0507, i could upgrade it but thisone should do it too. i can't get even 1m of pi at >335 fsb, the last idea i had was just to give it more juice but then that is quite high so i first decided to ask here what to do if anyone can do magic or i'll just have to settle for puny 2310mhz. thanks for all the help.
This is the "P5W DH" problem and fixes thread. There is a similar thread for your "p5b dlx". Perhaps the monitor will move this.
hadron
10-05-2006, 02:09 PM
yeah, that was my mistake, sorry about that, anyway i fixed the problem, it apperars it was the bios that was causing problem, so for now i'm runing 370x7 with 0711 bios and have no problems. gonna continue with oc tommrow. thanks anyway.
For those using the 1.85 Mch boards, particularly those that have tries 1.65 Mch in comparison to 1.85 Mch boards.
You all keep saying that you have better OC results with the 1.85 Mch boards. Are you getting better OC at the same Mch settings (implying the 1.85 Mch boards are actually more stable) or are you only getting a better OC as a result of using the settings above 1.65 Mch???
davexl
10-05-2006, 07:26 PM
For those using the 1.85 Mch boards, particularly those that have tries 1.65 Mch in comparison to 1.85 Mch boards.
You all keep saying that you have better OC results with the 1.85 Mch boards. Are you getting better OC at the same Mch settings (implying the 1.85 Mch boards are actually more stable) or are you only getting a better OC as a result of using the settings above 1.65 Mch???
In my experience the boards overclock exactly the same - the higher than 1.65v only helps if you are pushing the FSB above 430 FSB or so.
Given that my 6400 and 6600 are limited by the CPU - (heat and vcore walls) I can't tell you - they are running at 389 and 420 FSB.
The Nemesis
10-05-2006, 07:35 PM
For those using the 1.85 Mch boards, particularly those that have tries 1.65 Mch in comparison to 1.85 Mch boards.
You all keep saying that you have better OC results with the 1.85 Mch boards. Are you getting better OC at the same Mch settings (implying the 1.85 Mch boards are actually more stable) or are you only getting a better OC as a result of using the settings above 1.65 Mch???
Guess I'll repeat my previous post:
my 1.85v mch board ran no hotter than my 1.65v mch board even when overclocking. My 1.65v version could pi @ 420-422 FSB and 3DMark up to 412FSB. My 1.85v could pi up to 440 FSB with stock "9" multiplier & 450 FSB with "8" multiplier & 3DMark06 up to 423 FSB.
I gained 10mhz for gaming & over 20mhz for benching. The 1.85v mch board is worth the investment in my opinion if your going for max benchable overclocks. But most of us with 6600's are cpu limited not FSB limited. Until those E6600 B's hit the states there's really no need for 450 FSB because no may cpu's run over 4ghz without phase, which this board suxs for.
d4rkkn16ht
10-05-2006, 11:26 PM
Hi all,I'm new in this community and in overclocking area :)
My name is Richard and
I have P5W DH Deluxe (Bios 1305),
Core 2 Duo E6300,
2x256 DDR2 Ram,
ATI X700 256Mb
I have some problem though with my older USB devices...:(
After installing Windows XP SP2 and all the drivers I shutdown the computer and turn the power off.
When I turned it on again it stop responding...
After the windows logo was gone it just stay blank...
after I tried to unplugged all the USB Devices and restart,
everything just fine,the windows start normally...
All the driver is already updated (or some of them is just windows driver)
here are my USB devices list:
Canon D660 USB Scanner
BAFO B120 Infra Red Dongle
HP 3900 Series USB Printer
US Robotic 56k Fax Modem USB
Logitech USB Mouse
USB Hub
Gravis Gamepad Pro USB
Intel PC Camera (WebCam)
And of course the USB Device that came with the Motherboard,The InfraRed Dongle for the Remote, which is i think is useless :p:
What do you think is wrong ?
Thank you to let me join this forum
[..]
after I tried to unplugged all the USB Devices and restart,
everything just fine,the windows start normally...
Why don't you try to disconnect the USB devices one by one to find out which one is causing the problem?
d4rkkn16ht
10-06-2006, 02:34 AM
Why don't you try to disconnect the USB devices one by one to find out which one is causing the problem?
I've tried that but I found no device causing any problems.
Whenever I successfully enter Windows and try to plug some or all the USB devices and then restart the computer,everything is fine.
When I power off for a few seconds and on again (with some or all of the devices connected),i still get the same problem,blank screen after Windows logo disapear...no error msg...:confused:
Seigal12
10-06-2006, 04:57 AM
Hi guys,
I have had this problem for awhile and I cannot seem to figure out what it is, hopefully you can help me!
Obviously I am using the P5W DH mobo currently on BIOS version 1305 (whatever) with a Core 2 Duo E6600, GeForce 7950GX2, 2GB GeiL 6400 RAM, Seasonic S12 600W PSU, Seagate Barracuda 300GB HDD. I have cleared the CMOS, already.
Now the problem happens randomly, sometimes it happens less to not at all but also more often then not (like recently). What happens is, when I boot the system after leaving it off for sometime (like overnight) it will sometimes startup, get all the fans running, HDD spinning etc.. but no signal will go to the monitor, there is no boot as the internal speaker stays silent and it'll sit there spinning away without booting until I unplug it from the mains power supply for a few seconds and then plug it back it and try again. Once I do this everything works.
As you can imagine this is quite annoying after awhile, can anyone think of what it might be?
Any help would be great, thanks.
Yanomami
10-06-2006, 05:15 AM
Hey Seigal12, i had the same problem, no idea why, i was even thinking of RMA my ATI x1900xt but then i found it wasnt my gpu, i get annoyed also when this happens, thats the reason i never try to turn off my computer lol...
My question here, and hello im a newbie over here :) is that i cant move the FSB over 350, i can OC with the Asus autooverclokc feature and i reached a nice 3000 mhz, though i want more from my E6600, just to make some benchies and stuff.
My rig is: P5w Deluxe, 2x1 GB OCZ gold (4-5-4-12), 2x80 gb sata, ati x1900xt and Intel core duo e6600.
I did move the voltage, t he mem volt also, i have readt a lot and seen pictures of similar computers with a higher OC (3.2, 3.4, 3,6 etc) and i do copy/paste to their settings and cannot seems to make it, i have readt that to move the FSB past 360 or so in these boards is a bit problematic, but i cannot find a way to do it, i had 1201 bios or something like that, though i flashed yesterday to the newone that Asus just released to see if something changed, but nothing happened..
Any help would be apreactiated, i tried to read all of this post but 50 pages is way a lot, i did read like 15 pages and found nothing to help my problem. Thanks in advance!
mikepaul
10-06-2006, 09:55 AM
here are my USB devices list:
Canon D660 USB Scanner
BAFO B120 Infra Red Dongle
HP 3900 Series USB Printer
US Robotic 56k Fax Modem USB
Logitech USB Mouse
USB Hub
Gravis Gamepad Pro USB
Intel PC Camera (WebCam)
Are all of these chained off one or two USB ports?
There are 4 ports on the back: the right two have some sort of 'restart the computer' logic attached to them, so if you plug into them the computer may act funny.
I used the two-plug USB connector (that goes in a card slot opening) they supplied, attached to a USB connector next to the PCI slots, as an internal 'hub' to feed a real USB hub in a 5-1/4 opening and a USB card reader in a 3-1/2 slot. You might want to use it in an open slot to get yourself another couple of no-strings-attached ports in the back.
If you already did that, maybe it's time to get another one since there are at least two internal USB connectors...
infrared
10-06-2006, 11:08 AM
The board comes with it's own proprietry Infrared dongle, which has control to the power on/off function even without drivers installed. If you have your infrared dongle plugged into one of these usb ports that will be what's causing your problems. Try moving the IrDA dongle to one of the top usb ports ;)
Nunyabiz
10-06-2006, 11:35 AM
The board comes with it's own proprietry Infrared dongle, which has control to the power on/off function even without drivers installed. If you have your infrared dongle plugged into one of these usb ports that will be what's causing your problems. Try moving the IrDA dongle to one of the top usb ports ;)
I thought it was in the port nearest the sound connectors.( bottom) Or do you have your board inverted?
kayomani
10-06-2006, 12:42 PM
Hey Seigal12, i had the same problem, no idea why, i was even thinking of RMA my ATI x1900xt but then i found it wasnt my gpu, i get annoyed also when this happens, thats the reason i never try to turn off my computer lol...
My question here, and hello im a newbie over here :) is that i cant move the FSB over 350, i can OC with the Asus autooverclokc feature and i reached a nice 3000 mhz, though i want more from my E6600, just to make some benchies and stuff.
My rig is: P5w Deluxe, 2x1 GB OCZ gold (4-5-4-12), 2x80 gb sata, ati x1900xt and Intel core duo e6600.
I did move the voltage, t he mem volt also, i have readt a lot and seen pictures of similar computers with a higher OC (3.2, 3.4, 3,6 etc) and i do copy/paste to their settings and cannot seems to make it, i have readt that to move the FSB past 360 or so in these boards is a bit problematic, but i cannot find a way to do it, i had 1201 bios or something like that, though i flashed yesterday to the newone that Asus just released to see if something changed, but nothing happened..
Any help would be apreactiated, i tried to read all of this post but 50 pages is way a lot, i did read like 15 pages and found nothing to help my problem. Thanks in advance!
This was fixed for me in 1407, make sure load defaults after flashing.
Mykou
10-06-2006, 01:09 PM
You're using 0507 ?? Does that even -support- C2d ? I thought you had to have 701 -minimum-.
Flash it to 1305. That version is trouble free for everyone, just use the ezflash in the bios.
And the only reason you're limited to 333 fsb is because I bet you didn't disable hyperpath 3. Disable that.
that didn't stop me for reaching 4.00ghz... auto setting hyperpath 3
Guess why :confused:
caater
10-06-2006, 01:25 PM
if hp3 is auto, then, at some point, p5w will disable it.. mostly :)
btw, did some testing with hyperpath3, compared mch configuration registers, both hp3 on and off.
the only thing i noticed different - was that when hp3 was on - tRD was set to 5. Normally p5w sets it at 6. and that was pretty much it.
maybe there's some additional hidden settings also which i believe/hope to be the case.
infrared
10-06-2006, 01:40 PM
I thought it was in the port nearest the sound connectors.( bottom) Or do you have your board inverted?
Yes, your right, they're the ones designed for the Asus proprietry IrDA dongle. I was saying not to use them if he's using a dongle other than the Asus one, and if it's not being used for the remote, because this might cause problems with the remote on/off feature of the board that's hard-wired to those usb ports.
Sorry, didn't explain it very well the first time :p:
Yanomami
10-06-2006, 03:59 PM
This was fixed for me in 1407, make sure load defaults after flashing.
Hey thanks for answering about my problem. I did try 1407 (wich is the latest bios right?) but still couldnt hit over 333 FSB if i move to 334 FSB the comp wont boot, and i did try a lot of options, hyperpath3 disable, cpu and mem volt bump, mch volt also, pci-e 100 or 101, etc, but i just cant make it over it :( right now i moved to another bios wich was supossed to be the best (1305) and still the same problem.... :(
OneyedK
10-07-2006, 05:01 AM
What kind of memory are you using? 333MHz seems awful low...
Stick to 4-4-4-12-4 or 5-5-5-15-5 timings with sufficiënt voltage to your ram.
And try to run it at 1:1
Up to 435MHz I don 't need more than 1.55V vmch...
HP3 disabled, fancy PCI-e-:banana::banana::banana::banana: to disabled or "normal"...
Maybe post an everest-sensor-screen to see if all the temps are ok.
I got this board today, and quite honestly the SATA setup on this board is a bit confusing. I have 2x 200GB SATA WD's that I want to set up in RAID 0. I figure I should run them on the Intel controller for best performance, but which SATA connectors should I use? 1+3?
Then I have 2x 320GB SATA WD's that I want to use for storage, ie, no RAID. Which ports should I use for these? The EZ ports?
Mr Footlong
10-07-2006, 05:21 AM
I am interested in the EZ-RAID ports too, but for another reason. I am running 3 WD2500KS drives striped together on ports 1,3 and 4. Port 2 is split between the 2 Sil EZ RAID ports. Now I have a SATA DVD Writer and wanted to use one of the EZ RAID ports, but it apears that you cannot run them in normal SATA mode. I Haven't had much time to play with the RAID1, RAID0, BIG jumper block, but I have a nasty feeling that they will make no difference, the SATA Writer pretty well gets picked up as an unknown device, so I have it running off the Jmicron controller. This works just fine but it slows bootup somewhat and Ideally I would like it on the SIL controller. Anyone else had this or got it working in the way I would prefer?
Cheers,
Nick :).
Ic3man
10-07-2006, 05:26 AM
If you put the jumper to 'BIG' then you can use the EZ raid ports as single sata drives, I have - works fine.
Mr Footlong
10-07-2006, 05:40 AM
Cheers for that. Due to a complete lack of time on my part I hadn't got around to trying it. Also the new build is pretty 'compact' to put it mildly and involves major surgery to get to the jumpers lol. I simply assumed that JBOD mode would give much the same results as RAID1 and 0 mode. Was that test with a hard drive or a DVD writer though? Hopefully it will make no difference and I will try it when I return from home.
Cheers,
Nick.
Edit/ Ah, not sure who you are answering but it could well apply to both.
mefromfl
10-07-2006, 06:04 AM
Hi,
I'm new to building system, and I'm having the long boot time. It seems to take it's time at the looking for USB mass storage device part. I have updated to the lastest bios. Can someone just put it amature writing on how i should setup my bios so that it will boot up faster? I saw that someone says to changer sata header, what does that mean? Is this a hardware issue or just a bios setting?
Super Nade
10-07-2006, 07:34 AM
Try disabling all the fan control options in the BIOS. You should find it under the Power menu. :)
Super Nade
10-07-2006, 07:37 AM
Another minor issue:
"Overclocking failed" message appears intermittantly-No need to change anything, hit F1 save and exit CMOS. :)
lawrywild
10-07-2006, 07:47 AM
Another minor issue:
"Overclocking failed" message appears intermittantly-No need to change anything, hit F1 save and exit CMOS. :)
I don't get that message on stable settings...
catscit
10-07-2006, 08:30 AM
no matter waht setting of the ezraid you use, 1 port is always fully functional and can be found in the ich7r bios screen if you want to add it to a raid set.
The second ezraid port can only be used for ezraid, no matter waht you do.
I have 4 sata drives in raid 0, using 1 red, 2 black and 1 orange ezraid port.
The 5th drive is on the jmicron port near the backplane. the jmicron stuff is SLOW
rob725
10-07-2006, 09:46 AM
I configured single sata to run on jmicron. To make it run at the correct speed, I had to configure as ahci and install jmicron raid driver.
syne_24
10-07-2006, 10:51 AM
no matter waht setting of the ezraid you use, 1 port is always fully functional and can be found in the ich7r bios screen if you want to add it to a raid set.
The second ezraid port can only be used for ezraid, no matter waht you do.
I have 4 sata drives in raid 0, using 1 red, 2 black and 1 orange ezraid port.
The 5th drive is on the jmicron port near the backplane. the jmicron stuff is SLOW
interesting..so that's what you have to do if you want 4x drives on one array. Any bad performance from using split ports for one array like that?
mefromfl
10-07-2006, 11:02 AM
Try disabling all the fan control options in the BIOS. You should find it under the Power menu. :)
I have disabled all fan control settings, i getting long posting at the detection for USB mass storage device durning post. Can someone please help me? It hangs for about 5 mins then loads.
Yanomami
10-07-2006, 02:23 PM
What kind of memory are you using? 333MHz seems awful low...
Stick to 4-4-4-12-4 or 5-5-5-15-5 timings with sufficiënt voltage to your ram.
And try to run it at 1:1
Up to 435MHz I don 't need more than 1.55V vmch...
HP3 disabled, fancy PCI-e-:banana::banana::banana::banana: to disabled or "normal"...
Maybe post an everest-sensor-screen to see if all the temps are ok.
I have 800 mhz OCZ memory, i did try volt bumping up to 2.2v and still cant reach over 3000 mhz (333 fsb x 9) not even on 1:1, 4:5 or 3:5 with autotimmings or 5-5-5-15 and 4-5-4-12 and nothing happens... i also moved the cpu volt 1.5 even 1.6 and still wont boot and give me the bios error after 2 resets...
mefromfl
10-07-2006, 02:30 PM
Ok, I have unplugged one of my usb for the printer, and the booting is faster now. What do i need to do so that i can plug int he printer and let it boot up fast at the same time.
Timmaah
10-07-2006, 04:07 PM
Well with bios 1305 and 1403 etc. wasnt able to get such good overclocks:
CPU Vcore @ 1.475
Mem@2.05
FSB @ 1.2
MCH @ 1.65
ICH @ 1.2
Fsb is 388x9, and running on air.
I can't by the love of God get the damn Jmicron controller to recognize my last 320GB drive. As of now I use port 1+3 for RAID 0 on two 200GB drives. Port 4 for one 320GB drive, and port 1 jmicron for the last 320GB drive. Any suggestions?
rob725
10-07-2006, 05:07 PM
I can't by the love of God get the damn Jmicron controller to recognize my last 320GB drive. As of now I use port 1+3 for RAID 0 on two 200GB drives. Port 4 for one 320GB drive, and port 1 jmicron for the last 320GB drive. Any suggestions?
Not sure if this will help and its been a little while, but if memory serves me correctly...
When I first plugged into jmicron sata, I saw nothing in bios, but it showed up in windows like an external/removable drive and ran dreadfully slow. As stated a few posts ago, to make it work right I set jmicron to operate in ahci mode and installed jmicron raid driver. The drive still does not show in regular bios, but only in the jmicron post screen.
Not sure if this will help and its been a little while, but if memory serves me correctly...
When I first plugged into jmicron sata, I saw nothing in bios, but it showed up in windows like an external/removable drive and ran dreadfully slow. As stated a few posts ago, to make it work right I set jmicron to operate in ahci mode and installed jmicron raid driver. The drive still does not show in regular bios, but only in the jmicron post screen.
Nothing shows up in windows. And it doesn't show up in that jmicron boot screen either. If I set it to "AHCI", my PATA drive, which also runs of the jmicron controller disappears. Thanks for the suggestions though.
What are you running that jmicron jumper on?
This board truly has the most cluttered SATA arrangement I've ever seen. My previous DFI Ultra-D was pretty much plug & play.
Well, I got it working. The only way I can make it recognize the last 320GB drive is to connect it to the SATA port under the CPU. That's a pretty stupid place to place a SATA connector, no?
So, in effect, this motherboard can only run 4x SATA drives unless you want to run EZ raid? That's sort of weak.
I've had this board for a couple months now. My e6600 can do 3.24 Ghz (360 x 9) with all stock voltages (just disabled HP3) on air and stay quite cool (maxes out around 56C).
However, with any voltages increases, my CPU temps get too high too quick to justify the minimal performance gains. Setting CPU voltage to 1.4625 for example will increase my load CPU temps from 56C to 66C.
Does this type of temp increase sound normal?
Had a look at a new P5W DH at my local store yesterday, and it seems that there is no year/week code printed anywhere on the board. The label on the box cover is 69MOAG.
I used to have a 1.65V VMCH board and that board had the printing. The new one I saw yesterday had PCB MADE IN CHINA, couldn't remember what my board was though.
cmthomson
10-07-2006, 08:39 PM
I've had this board for a couple months now. My e6600 can do 3.24 Ghz (360 x 9) with all stock voltages (just disabled HP3) on air and stay quite cool (maxes out around 56C).
However, with any voltages increases, my CPU temps get too high too quick to justify the minimal performance gains. Setting CPU voltage to 1.4625 for example will increase my load CPU temps from 56C to 66C.
Does this type of temp increase sound normal?
CPU power consumption increases as the square of the voltage times the frequency (V*V*F), so yes, this is to be expected.
rob725
10-07-2006, 08:40 PM
Yes, the one under the cpu is the jmicron sata. I think you can also use one of the orange without using ezraid.
rob725
10-07-2006, 08:42 PM
I've had this board for a couple months now. My e6600 can do 3.24 Ghz (360 x 9) with all stock voltages (just disabled HP3) on air and stay quite cool (maxes out around 56C).
However, with any voltages increases, my CPU temps get too high too quick to justify the minimal performance gains. Setting CPU voltage to 1.4625 for example will increase my load CPU temps from 56C to 66C.
Does this type of temp increase sound normal?
Yes, that's normal. what kind of cooler do you have?
catscit
10-08-2006, 02:20 AM
wow people are not paying attention here.
The jmicron ports are the one behind the cpu near the back plane and on the BACK PLANE!
The EZraid ports are orange and near the top/bottom of the board, controlled by a SIL controller.
The orange ports (well one of them) can be used together woth the 3 ich7r ports for raid.
The jmicron ports can have by themselves but NOT with the other ports on the board!
I did some testing with 2 drives and got better raid 0 scores when useing 1 orange port together with the red boot port then with the red and a black.
So i don't think i have reduced performance by using f of the orange ports in my raid 0 setup of 4 drives.
With 4 drives in raid 0 i do not get twice the 2 drive score, quite a bit less. Which means there is a bottleneck somewhere which doesn't give me the full performance. But i get better scores then 4x 10k scsi disks on a lsi megaraid pci-x controller with 512mb cache on my previous tyan board.
So the ich7r is pretty good and worth the board's money in itself! (the lsi card costs 600 euro/dollar with bbu and mem!).
Problem is the jmicorn port near the cpu, you DO NOT want to use that one.
It's slow, needs special drivers which are hard to find and even then when under high load, the whole system get unresponsive.
To make thing clear:
for the ich7r you have a maximum of 4 ports available, these can be used in a raid (or several raids)
in total 6 ports are independantly available, but then 1 port is connected through the backplane!
the 7th port is ONLY available through ezraid, but when using this, only 3 ports are left available for the ich7r
d4rkkn16ht
10-08-2006, 03:06 AM
I have some problem though with my older USB devices...:(
After installing Windows XP SP2 and all the drivers I shutdown the computer and turn the power off.
When I turned it on again it stop responding...
After the windows logo was gone it just stay blank...
after I tried to unplugged all the USB Devices and restart,
everything just fine,the windows start normally...
All the driver is already updated (or some of them is just windows driver)
here are my USB devices list:
Canon D660 USB Scanner
BAFO B120 Infra Red Dongle
HP 3900 Series USB Printer
US Robotic 56k Fax Modem USB
Logitech USB Mouse
USB Hub
Gravis Gamepad Pro USB
Intel PC Camera (WebCam)
And of course the USB Device that came with the Motherboard,The InfraRed Dongle for the Remote, which is i think is useless :p:
What do you think is wrong ?
I still have the problem :(
I don't use the InfraRed Dongle for the remote anymore
After some time I found out that the modem is the cause, but only if I turn off the power (after I successfully enter window)
If I just shut down and the UPS is still on, it just fine...
I think it may be a power issue with my modem or windows or may be the motherboard (I hope not the motherboard)
Can anyone help me with this?
*sip*
So, you're saying I can use one of the EZ ports for storage? I've tried that but it doesn't want to find my drive. I've tried both port1 and port2 on the EZ controller. Any suggestions?
catscit
10-08-2006, 05:21 AM
So, you're saying I can use one of the EZ ports for storage? I've tried that but it doesn't want to find my drive. I've tried both port1 and port2 on the EZ controller. Any suggestions?
yes you can.
I use one of the orange ports for my 4 drive raid 0
attach a drive to one of the orange ports.
Go into the ich7r raid setup during post
create a raid set (jbod?) with the 1 drive attached to the orange port
it should now show up in windows disk management
create a partition and format and you can use it.
I think you MUST create a 1 drive array to be able to use the single drive under windows but i'm not 100% sure.
At least you should see the drive under the ich7r post tool.
As soon as you use one of the orange ports through the ich7r, you can no longer use ez raid and the second orange port must remain empty.
i'm using the orange port closest to the edge of the board, but i think either will work
mefromfl
10-08-2006, 05:27 AM
Can someone please help as to why it takes 5 mins to boot when i plug in my printer usb? It takes about 5 mins at post when it says it's detecting USB mass storage device.
Thank in advance,
yes you can.
I use one of the orange ports for my 4 drive raid 0
attach a drive to one of the orange ports.
Go into the ich7r raid setup during post
create a raid set (jbod?) with the 1 drive attached to the orange port
it should now show up in windows disk management
create a partition and format and you can use it.
I think you MUST create a 1 drive array to be able to use the single drive under windows but i'm not 100% sure.
At least you should see the drive under the ich7r post tool.
As soon as you use one of the orange ports through the ich7r, you can no longer use ez raid and the second orange port must remain empty.
i'm using the orange port closest to the edge of the board, but i think either will work
Thanks alot, much appreciated. I'll try this in a minute and report back.
Super Nade
10-08-2006, 06:37 AM
I don't get that message on stable settings...
My settings are stable (a modest 401 x 8 MHz). This happens once a week or so.
Thanks alot, much appreciated. I'll try this in a minute and report back.
Nah, no go. The ICH7R RAID doesn't find the drive. It just finds the other 320GB drive I have connected to the third ICH7 slot, and it says I can't create a RAID with just one drive. I'm majorly confused by this :slapass:
Is there any BIOS settings I need to adjust? Any jumpers?
revenant
10-08-2006, 06:56 AM
all these integrated to the mobo raid implementations are NOT true hardware raid... they all pretty much suck imo. if you want to use raid, go out and get a raid card, like a decent Promise or RocketRaid SATA raid card.. even those rely on the cpu (to do most of the raid parity and interleaving calculations) but they're a HELL of a lot better than these onboard raid solutions.. anyways, my $0.02
coredump
10-08-2006, 07:03 AM
Nah, no go. The ICH7R RAID doesn't find the drive. It just finds the other 320GB drive I have connected to the third ICH7 slot, and it says I can't create a RAID with just one drive. I'm majorly confused by this :slapass:
Is there any BIOS settings I need to adjust? Any jumpers?
Only the EZ port on the right can be used as ICH7 port4. To enable this function, simply remove both EZ Backup jumpers. The drive should be picked up like any other ICH7 connected drive.
coredump
10-08-2006, 07:06 AM
all these integrated to the mobo raid implementations are NOT true hardware raid...
The "EZ BACKUP" Raid is true hardware RAID. But it doesn't come with cache and is too slow to be of any use.
they all pretty much suck imo. if you want to use raid, go out and get a raid card, like a decent Promise or RocketRaid SATA raid card.. even those rely on the cpu (to do most of the raid parity and interleaving calculations) but they're a HELL of a lot better than these onboard raid solutions.. anyways, my $0.02
That may be true for Windows, but is not for Linux. Linux users should use Linux Software Raid which is usually faster than any affordable hardware RAID solution (and can be moved across controllers).
Yes, that's normal. what kind of cooler do you have?
Zalman CNPS7000. It's quite, but I'm definitely not too happy with it.
With my E6600 being able to do 3.24Ghz stable at default voltages, I know it has much more in it, but I can't go there with the temp increases I see with any increase in voltage.
Only the EZ port on the right can be used as ICH7 port4. To enable this function, simply remove both EZ Backup jumpers. The drive should be picked up like any other ICH7 connected drive.
Yay! I got it working. One of the SATA cables that followed the mobo is not working right. I swapped it out, and ICH7 found the drive no problem. :woot:
Now I need to figure out how to short down post times (Qfan is already disabled) and how to get the mobo to read SPD correctly. Somehow it sets the timings to 5-5-5, while they should be 4-4-4. Any ideas?
Thanks a bunch!
Pjoeloe
10-08-2006, 08:38 AM
I presume that the real cold boots are still there on the P5W-DH ? ( the shutdowns on starting ( and restarting ) and the fan and HDD power downs with the scary clicking when overclocking between 375 and 475 mhz fsb ) ,
damz Asus, FIX THIS chipset strapping trfc / Trc bla thing since this is supposedly your high entry freaking level board ..... !!
AndreYang just told me that cold booting on P5W64 and WS pro is only on re-start ( if you rest the system 1 ~ 5 min the problem is gone ) and that it`s cold booting just fine with OC settings so it can be done.
very unprofessional
catscit
10-08-2006, 08:58 AM
Yay! I got it working. One of the SATA cables that followed the mobo is not working right. I swapped it out, and ICH7 found the drive no problem. :woot:
Now I need to figure out how to short down post times (Qfan is already disabled) and how to get the mobo to read SPD correctly. Somehow it sets the timings to 5-5-5, while they should be 4-4-4. Any ideas?
Thanks a bunch!
good that it's working now, i've tried and both orange ports can be used.
To slow down boot times:
- disable each ide port not used in the bios (not installed setting)
- disable each qfan, and set each rpm to ignore.
works for me, boot times are really fast, only 3-5 seconds from post beep to windows splash screen, with 5 sata drives and plenty usb devices attached!
Okay, I got my boot times down to an acceptable speed. Now I need to figure out why the mobo is reading the SPD timings wrong. CPU-Z clearly reads 4-4-4-12, but the mobo sets them at 5-5-5-12. Any ideas? I'm using bios 1407.
The transformation from AMD to Intel has'nt been an easy one so far :P
Oh, and where can I check memory voltages? Doesn't say anywhere!
People who have this board, do you like this board? Would you recommend it to someone why is trying to get an OC of only like 3GHz or so?
Im still playin with my retail e6600. So far ive managed 3.6Ghz with my corsair XMS2 6400 Cas4... 400X9 1:1 Ratio..it would be nice if we could have some pics of bios settings also who is using the latest bios 1407?? any good?? i know it allows lower multipliers..
I suppose the main thing i wanna know is how good is my RAM. It supports EPP and is SLi ready apparently. I found some info on Corsairs site it refers to intels Nforce5 590 chipset. Any way of disabling EPP?? Does it affect RAM overclocking?? Any1 have the same memory?
Thanx in advance
Irfy
Im still playin with my retail e6600. So far ive managed 3.6Ghz with my corsair XMS2 6400 Cas4... 400X9 1:1 Ratio..it would be nice if we could have some pics of bios settings also who is using the latest bios 1407?? any good?? i know it allows lower multipliers..
I suppose the main thing i wanna know is how good is my RAM. It supports EPP and is SLi ready apparently. I found some info on Corsairs site it refers to intels Nforce5 590 chipset. Any way of disabling EPP?? Does it affect RAM overclocking?? Any1 have the same memory?
Thanx in advance
Irfy
Are you running your ram with SPD timings? If not, could you try setting it to SPD and see what timings the motherboard chooses? I have the same sticks.
Ic3man
10-08-2006, 11:22 AM
I have the same memory. Mine tops out @ 450(900)mhz @4-4-4-12 with 2.1v. Will go past 1000mhz with 2.35vdimm. Happy with them tbh.
Capo Crimini
10-08-2006, 12:12 PM
irfs: EPP is just additional timings stored in spare space on the memory modules. I believe the chips are originally specified at 5-5-5-15, but if you have a 590 board and you enable EPP in bios, it'll change timings to 4-4-4-12 on its own. My modules are able to do 4-4-3-10 @ 903MHz orthos stable (large ffts), but not gaming stable. Currently running them at 903MHz @ 4-4-4-12. Haven't really tried finding best possible timings yet as I'm still playing with my 6600.
I have the same memory. Mine tops out @ 450(900)mhz @4-4-4-12 with 2.1v. Will go past 1000mhz with 2.35vdimm. Happy with them tbh.
Thanx for the replies guys!! Do you think having 4gb is limiting the overclock?
Im gettin rid of 2GB tommorow so i may aswell test'em now while i got the chance. Also is anyone runnin 1T or is this simply impossible?
PCie frequency ? 100 or more?
ICH voltage ?
Hyper 3 enable or disable
which is best bios? ive tried 1305 (works well) trying 1407 now
any input would be greatly appreciated...thanx
Capo Crimini
10-08-2006, 01:34 PM
With 4GB it's supposedly recommended with x64 OS...
With 4GB it's supposedly recommended with x64 OS...
This is what im running.
Timmaah
10-08-2006, 02:16 PM
i got a better oc with 1407 than with 1305, i didnt have to use as much voltage to achieve teh clock, before i couldnt reach 3.3ghz without reaching 1.46, i reached 3.5 with 1.475v
Stiffler
10-08-2006, 02:30 PM
i got a better oc with 1407 than with 1305, i didnt have to use as much voltage to achieve teh clock, before i couldnt reach 3.3ghz without reaching 1.46, i reached 3.5 with 1.475v
I get crap OCs with this BIOS. I was able to take my 6400 to 3.6GHz with 450MHz FSB on the 1403, but with this one I can't break 333MHz FSB. I don't understand how Asus could have broken the BIOS so bad...
Ic3man
10-08-2006, 02:57 PM
Thanx for the replies guys!! Do you think having 4gb is limiting the overclock?
Im gettin rid of 2GB tommorow so i may aswell test'em now while i got the chance. Also is anyone runnin 1T or is this simply impossible?
PCie frequency ? 100 or more?
ICH voltage ?
Hyper 3 enable or disable
which is best bios? ive tried 1305 (works well) trying 1407 now
any input would be greatly appreciated...thanx
I have:
PCie frequency 110
ICH voltage Auto
mIch 1.65
Hyper 3 disable
Bios 1407
Timmaah
10-08-2006, 03:01 PM
I get crap OCs with this BIOS. I was able to take my 6400 to 3.6GHz with 450MHz FSB on the 1403, but with this one I can't break 333MHz FSB. I don't understand how Asus could have broken the BIOS so bad...
sounds unlucky, i got the e6600 and all seemed to work better this time round, i posted 3.6 in bios with 1.5vcore but it wasnt at all stable, wouldnt go into windows and i dont want to be putting more vcore through my new setup so i just let it be.
Stiffler
10-08-2006, 03:10 PM
sounds unlucky, i got the e6600 and all seemed to work better this time round, i posted 3.6 in bios with 1.5vcore but it wasnt at all stable, wouldnt go into windows and i dont want to be putting more vcore through my new setup so i just let it be.
Have you tried the 1403 BIOS?
If I have my external WD drive powered on before I boot, my system will not boot and I get an error message that I need to boot off a valid drive. My BIOS settings do not point to this external USB hard drive, but if it is powered on, it prevents my system from booting off of my C drive.
The WD external drive has Dantz Retrospect backups on it (if that matters). Is my master boot record screwed up? I did recently install Acronis True Image Home, which could have changed my master boot record. I don't even know the file name or location for the master boot record (Win XP Pro).
System boots fine when the external WD drive is powered off (I do not even need to go into BIOS to change anything). No BIOS settings seem to point to external USB drives for booting. Very strange. Any help???
Stiffler
10-08-2006, 04:02 PM
Try using the BBS F8 option to select the hard drive you want to boot from...
Timmaah
10-08-2006, 04:43 PM
yep, tried with 1305 and 1403.. mightve been 1402 but pretty sure it was 1403.
I have:
PCie frequency 110
ICH voltage Auto
mIch 1.65
Hyper 3 disable
Bios 1407
i will give it a whirl!
note i tried 1.20v for ICH voltage i think it made a bit of difference.
Sparx
10-08-2006, 07:15 PM
Has Asus fixed the shutdown bug for the p5w dh dx yet? You know when you save the bios and it shuts the power down for a moment before it begins to boot.
I read the P5b and the Pro version of the P5W has this issue corrected.
TIA
sparx
kaisersose
10-08-2006, 07:17 PM
Hey everyone,
Have been learning a lot about how I should and should not overclock my mother board with my system from this thread. I have an e6600 conroe, an eVGA nvidia 7950 GX2, Corsair XMS2 2G (1G x 2) DDR2, of course the Asus Motherboard running with 1407 bios version, and a BFG 650W Power Supply. Using AiBooster and using the Overclocking Profile I can get the machine up to 3.1MHz, but it seems like that doing that doesn't optmize the memory. I went in and have adjusted the memory to be 4-4-4-12-4, but that didn't seem like it helped very much (my main test I did was 3dMark06 which I got an awful score with the CPU testing; only 1 fps). I was wondering if there is something else that I can use to test the speed of the processer and actually notice a difference other than looking at numbers on these different software apps that monitor your box stats. Also, will changing these voltages affect the performance of my graphics card, or does that pretty much run as is?
The Overclocking Profile thing seems to make everything run smoothly with low temps and all, but when I load up the post messages it says my memory is at PC2-3200. With the Corsair memory that I have, is this a standard level or is it possible to raise it up higher without crashing the system? These are just a few started questions as I'm sure I'll be trying to get this to overclock with the correct settings for a while unless someone else out there as the same setup or similar and can give some hints to try. Sorry for the long message and thanks for taking the time to read.
Peace,
Dave
I've just experienced another quirk with this board. If I keep my mouse receiver (Logitech wireless) connected to the standard 6-pin mouse (PS2?) port, it becomes unusable when the system is reading off my internal CD/DVD drive. The mouse cursor will respond, but in extremely slow mo & stuttered fashion.
If I connect the mouse via USB, problem disappears. WTF?
Pjoeloe
10-08-2006, 08:51 PM
Has Asus fixed the shutdown bug for the p5w dh dx yet? You know when you save the bios and it shuts the power down for a moment before it begins to boot.
I read the P5b and the Pro version of the P5W has this issue corrected.
TIA
sparx
nope :)
I think I`m gonna try a vanilla p5b first since the problems are solved when cold booting with this board ( need 2 pci`s ), only I am wondering If I need to install windows again. I went from nforce 4 to p965 without installing windows again, to i975x, ( installed windows again first, don`t know why I did that :p: , Anybody know`s if windows works from a windows p965 pc to i975x ?)
and I`m going from i975x to p965 again, < hopefully > without the need to install windows again :rolleyes: .
Sparx
10-08-2006, 09:18 PM
nope :)
I think I`m gonna try a vanilla p5b first since the problems are solved when cold booting with this board ( need 2 pci`s ), only I am wondering If I need to install windows again. I went from nforce 4 to p965 without installing windows again, to i975x, ( installed windows again first, don`t know why I did that :p: , Anybody know`s if windows works from a windows p965 pc to i975x ?)
and I`m going from i975x to p965 again, < hopefully > without the need to install windows again :rolleyes: .
I don't have a 965 board, but I am thinking like you of getting one-P5B DX But I doubt the chipset drivers are the same. So a Windows reinstall would be needed for both of us since I have an Abit Aw9D max a 975 chipset board.
What the hell is ASUS doing not fixing that bug on the Pw5 Dh?
sparx
sarachem
10-09-2006, 12:34 AM
What the hell is ASUS doing not fixing that bug on the Pw5 Dh?
sparx
I think this motherboard is just a compilation of bugs
If computer is connected to the 220V, and maybe can goes on unexpectedly (after "power loss" for example =)), but waterpump of course not... This is "pierce of sheet" but not motherboard...
http://images.people.overclockers.ru/92140.jpg
http://images.people.overclockers.ru/92139.jpg
I"m was dissapointed in asus this time...
syne_24
10-09-2006, 12:41 AM
Has Asus fixed the shutdown bug for the p5w dh dx yet? You know when you save the bios and it shuts the power down for a moment before it begins to boot.
I read the P5b and the Pro version of the P5W has this issue corrected.
TIA
sparx
I coulda sworn it didnt do that sometime. I cant remember on which bios or what since I flashed about 40 times, but I know there were some occasion it didnt shut off the power completely; it just rebooted.
On another note, has anyone got the first ethernet port to work with just LAN to a dsl modem? For some reason it never work for me and I have seen the same results on two different boards. Only the 2nd ethernet will recognize my dsl and successfully get an ip. I'm a bit curious and thought maybe it is just me..
OneyedK
10-09-2006, 01:37 AM
What the hell is ASUS doing not fixing that bug on the Pw5 Dh?
The shutdown is needed to be able to set the NB-strap correctly before bootiing again. So it's not a bug.
Strikez
10-09-2006, 02:26 AM
Hey everyone,
Have been learning a lot about how I should and should not overclock my mother board with my system from this thread. I have an e6600 conroe, an eVGA nvidia 7950 GX2, Corsair XMS2 2G (1G x 2) DDR2, of course the Asus Motherboard running with 1407 bios version, and a BFG 650W Power Supply. Using AiBooster and using the Overclocking Profile I can get the machine up to 3.1MHz, but it seems like that doing that doesn't optmize the memory. I went in and have adjusted the memory to be 4-4-4-12-4, but that didn't seem like it helped very much (my main test I did was 3dMark06 which I got an awful score with the CPU testing; only 1 fps). I was wondering if there is something else that I can use to test the speed of the processer and actually notice a difference other than looking at numbers on these different software apps that monitor your box stats. Also, will changing these voltages affect the performance of my graphics card, or does that pretty much run as is?
The Overclocking Profile thing seems to make everything run smoothly with low temps and all, but when I load up the post messages it says my memory is at PC2-3200. With the Corsair memory that I have, is this a standard level or is it possible to raise it up higher without crashing the system? These are just a few started questions as I'm sure I'll be trying to get this to overclock with the correct settings for a while unless someone else out there as the same setup or similar and can give some hints to try. Sorry for the long message and thanks for taking the time to read.
Peace,
Dave
hope this saves some one some time it sure Pi$$@# me off trying to figure this out. What I figured out finally and maybe its just me but my 550 dollar corsair PC-2 8500 ram will not run using (manual) setup with a speed set at 1066 mhz in the bios. Note if I choose any other ram setting within the 900-1000 mhz setting the bios will post it properly as 8500. Anyother setting it will post anywhere between a pc- 5400 to pc- 7100 ram <--- what the hell is that 7100? FSB does not seem to be the issue to over clock the processor. The strange thing is when the ram is set within the 900-1000 mhz range the CPU-Z program will show the ram running at 533 mhz and as pc 8500 module and the bios will show in the post as 8500. Therefore I think this may be a bios issue. Same problem with the 1305 bios and the bios this board shipped with.
Bottom line if you are having problems Overclocking Check that your Corsair ram is set to manual within the above noted range and check with CPU-Z to see what it is really running at.
Also take it off the SPD settings and put in the proper timings as mine was defaulting to 5-4-4-12. Proper setting for this ram should be 5-5-5-15 runinng at 1066mhz.
and dont forget to disable the hyper 3 thing in the bios
Good luck.
At least now I can overclock this sucker
__________________________________________________ ______________
Xgamer 700w PSU
Intel E6400 OC to 2.66GHz (O/C 2.9 mhz 1.23 vlts @ 31 celcius, Corsair PC-2 8500 2.2vlts running at 553 mhz CPU-Z reading)
Stock Cooling (waiting for my Thermalright ULTRA-120 Heatpipe Cooler to arrive)
P5WDH Deluxe 1407 BIOS
2Gb Cosair XMS2 8500C4
Seagate 7200.10 250GB HD
Standard 1.44 Floppy drive
(1) LG DVD Burner
6800 nvidia Video Card (waiting for release of new 88XX series next month)
On board sound
Pjoeloe
10-09-2006, 07:29 AM
I don't have a 965 board, but I am thinking like you of getting one-P5B DX But I doubt the chipset drivers are the same. So a Windows reinstall would be needed for both of us since I have an Abit Aw9D max a 975 chipset board.
What the hell is ASUS doing not fixing that bug on the Pw5 Dh?
sparx
well, I don`t understand why it wouldn`t work. Windows booted flawless when I uninstalled the nforce 4 drivers and installed the bastard without reinstalling windows xp prof sp2. I think if you uninstall the drivers of the p965 chipset you installed and install a i975x motherboard, windows will boot and work :)
The shutdown is needed to be able to set the NB-strap correctly before bootiing again. So it's not a bug.
yes we know, but how would you call it then since it can be fixed :p:
breitan
10-09-2006, 08:16 AM
hope this saves some one some time it sure Pi$$@# me off trying to figure this out. What I figured out finally and maybe its just me but my 550 dollar corsair PC-2 8500 ram will not run using (manual) setup with a speed set at 1066 mhz in the bios. Note if I choose any other ram setting within the 900-1000 mhz setting the bios will post it properly as 8500. Anyother setting it will post anywhere between a pc- 5400 to pc- 7100 ram <--- what the hell is that 7100? FSB does not seem to be the issue to over clock the processor. The strange thing is when the ram is set within the 900-1000 mhz range the CPU-Z program will show the ram running at 533 mhz and as pc 8500 module and the bios will show in the post as 8500. Therefore I think this may be a bios issue. Same problem with the 1305 bios and the bios this board shipped with.
Bottom line if you are having problems Overclocking Check that your Corsair ram is set to manual within the above noted range and check with CPU-Z to see what it is really running at.
Also take it off the SPD settings and put in the proper timings as mine was defaulting to 5-4-4-12. Proper setting for this ram should be 5-5-5-15 runinng at 1066mhz.
and dont forget to disable the hyper 3 thing in the bios
Good luck.
At least now I can overclock this sucker
__________________________________________________ ______________
Xgamer 700w PSU
Intel E6400 OC to 2.66GHz (O/C 2.9 mhz 1.23 vlts @ 31 celcius, Corsair PC-2 8500 2.2vlts running at 553 mhz CPU-Z reading)
Stock Cooling (waiting for my Thermalright ULTRA-120 Heatpipe Cooler to arrive)
P5WDH Deluxe 1407 BIOS
2Gb Cosair XMS2 8500C4
Seagate 7200.10 250GB HD
Standard 1.44 Floppy drive
(1) LG DVD Burner
6800 nvidia Video Card (waiting for release of new 88XX series next month)
On board sound
Thanks for the info man.
I am with Bios 1407 having a lot more problems using the manual timings and am getting totally sick of this board. Anandtechs review on the board gave it a way better review then it deserved, then Corsair robbs me as i buy their friggin expensive memory(Corsair TWIN2X2048-8500C5) that actually cant be used to its fullest. Then finally, the kiss of death is given to me after buying the P5W DH board and finding out that it sucks even though its their hardcore overclocker motherboard. I could have saved many dollars by waiting but who the hell has the patience?
Enough of the bitterness, I know that I will find a good board in the near future and that my memory still is a good investment for the future.
Anyone got any other recommendations on similar setups. I sure would be interested in some bios-setting-specifications for my exact setup, such as the one Strikez posted.
syne_24
10-09-2006, 08:24 AM
@ Strikez and breitan
The reason CPUZ shows your ram running at 533mhz is because it is DDR-2 533 x 2 = 1066
Now if you're having problem getting stable with 1000+ then you might need to increase your vmch to 1.65v or more if you have the newer board and vdimm somewhere 2.3-2.4v
lawrywild
10-09-2006, 02:12 PM
@ Strikez and breitan
The reason CPUZ shows your ram running at 533mhz is because it is DDR-2 533 x 2 = 1066
Now if you're having problem getting stable with 1000+ then you might need to increase your vmch to 1.65v or more if you have the newer board and vdimm somewhere 2.3-2.4v
Well.. not really.. it's not the ddr- TWO which is important
It's the DUAL Data Rate bit
mikepaul
10-09-2006, 05:11 PM
System boots fine when the external WD drive is powered off (I do not even need to go into BIOS to change anything). No BIOS settings seem to point to external USB drives for booting. Very strange. Any help???If you go into BIOS Setup with the external drive powered on, is it actually in the list of bootable devices in the Boot section? If so, can you push it to the bottom of the list and have it stay there through several reboots?
(There are two lists: one for floppy/IDE/HD and one for drives. I guess you should check both.)
I'm kinda annoyed that my 'first' drive is attached to the secondary IDE port, but it does no harm so I don't screw with it...
The Nemesis
10-09-2006, 05:49 PM
Has anyone purchased this board recently? I just bought one for $228.99 the info on it is:
Serial #: 69MOAG13XXXX
Part #: 90-MBB2X1-GOAAY
Just wondering if anyone has any clocking results with september boards.
I have no complaint about the P5W DH board. It is the best motherboard (most stable) I have ever had. I built my first computer using an Asus motherboard in 1990. I later switched to MSI boards. The previous system I built was a DFI LP Ultra-D. It is a POS. I will never buy a DFI board.
Strikez
10-09-2006, 08:11 PM
Thanks for the info man.
I am with Bios 1407 having a lot more problems using the manual timings and am getting totally sick of this board. Anandtechs review on the board gave it a way better review then it deserved, then Corsair robbs me as i buy their friggin expensive memory(Corsair TWIN2X2048-8500C5) that actually cant be used to its fullest. Then finally, the kiss of death is given to me after buying the P5W DH board and finding out that it sucks even though its their hardcore overclocker motherboard. I could have saved many dollars by waiting but who the hell has the patience?
Enough of the bitterness, I know that I will find a good board in the near future and that my memory still is a good investment for the future.
Anyone got any other recommendations on similar setups. I sure would be interested in some bios-setting-specifications for my exact setup, such as the one Strikez posted.
I have to agree with you but I read in another post this board doesnt officially support pc8500 corsair so I have to take my lumps as I had over looked this. I still am hoping ASUS can fix this problem with a BIos fix.
I gave up playing with this ram and have it clocked at pc2 6400 board still can O/C to 3 ghz easy enough but wanted 1066mhz ram speed to. Going sell this board anyway when the new nvidia chipset is out and I hope it supports this ram or just like you stated I could have bought the cheaper ram but spent the extra cash to get the max performance out of boards but I am finding it has been a waste.:confused:
would post CPU-Z pics but dont know how.
__________________________________________________ ____________
OCZ X gamer 700w PSU
Intel E6400 (O/C at 2.9 mhz 1.23 vlts @ 31 celcius, Corsair PC-2 8500 2.2vlts (running as pc2 6400)
Stock Cooling (waiting for my Thermalright ULTRA-120 Heatpipe Cooler to arrive)
P5WDH Deluxe 1407 BIOS
2Gb Cosair XMS2 8500C4
Seagate 7200.10 250GB HD
Standard 1.44 Floppy drive
(1) LG DVD Burner
6800 nvidia Video Card (waiting for release of new 88XX series next month)
On board sound ( Seems better then my old audigy).
Strikez
10-09-2006, 08:17 PM
@ Strikez and breitan
The reason CPUZ shows your ram running at 533mhz is because it is DDR-2 533 x 2 = 1066
Now if you're having problem getting stable with 1000+ then you might need to increase your vmch to 1.65v or more if you have the newer board and vdimm somewhere 2.3-2.4v
I ll give that a shot but cranking up the volts on my ram to 2.4 volts ok? Thats one setting I been shying away from but I m game. Thanks for the response. If this works Ill report back in a few days. Had time to do this now.
vmch 1.65. Ram 2.3 volts at 1067 mhz manual setting 5-5-5-15. CPU volts at 1.25 system reboots after the windows screen with bar moving is finished.
vmch 1.65. Ram 2.4 volts at 1067 mhz manual setting 5-5-5-15. CPU volts at 1.26 system reboots wont boot or post.
Back to FSB 320. Ram 2.2 volts at 800 mhz manual setting 5-5-5-15 vmch auto. I can move the FSB higer but choose not to in order to keep temps as low as possible. Thanks for the feed back. I like the board but just not good for overclocking with my hardware.
DarkG
10-09-2006, 08:53 PM
Hi guys.
I have this motherboad, 6600 dual 2 core, 7900gt and this power supply, OCZ X gamer 700w PSU.
The first time when I was building my computer it didn't boot and was crazy find what the hell was wrong. One friend has a Enermax 535W power supply and I tried with it......... my computer booted. Ok, I thought my OCZ is not working, I will return it to NewEgg for a new one.
Today I have it with me and nothing, is not working :(
Any idea before send it back again ???
thanks in advanced.
Sparx
10-09-2006, 08:57 PM
So the board is not working with a new OCZ or not working with the Enermax, that it did boot with?
I am a little unsure.
And you did remember to plug in the 4 pin power connector?
sparx
911us
10-09-2006, 09:11 PM
Hi guys.
I have this motherboad, 6600 dual 2 core, 7900gt and this power supply, OCZ X gamer 700w PSU.
The first time when I was building my computer it didn't boot and was crazy find what the hell was wrong. One friend has a Enermax 535W power supply and I tried with it......... my computer booted. Ok, I thought my OCZ is not working, I will return it to NewEgg for a new one.
Today I have it with me and nothing, is not working :(
Any idea before send it back again ???
thanks in advanced.
I have an OCZ 700 and P5W DH just like you and everything works fine.Did you install it correctly ?.
DarkG
10-09-2006, 09:16 PM
sorry. I will explain again
With a Enermax it works, not problems. But now with my new OCZ it doesn't boot, or any fan moving, nothing. Yes, everything is connected, 24V, 12V, the connector for my graphics card, etc.
I have a tester for power supplies and I did a bridge betweend green color and black color and the power supply is working.
I don't understand why is not working.
Is any difference between the connectors CPU1 and CPU2 I mean, different voltage ???
The Nemesis
10-09-2006, 09:19 PM
I have the OCZ GameXtreme 700w working with the P5W as well. Now the board only requires the 4 pin CPU connector, & it should not be possible to plug the wrong one(requires cpu 1). My guess is on the 24 pin ATX power connector, the extra 4 pins on the far left that can detach are not secured properly. Give it a try.:)
DarkG
10-09-2006, 09:29 PM
I have the OCZ GameXtreme 700w working with the P5W as well. Now the board only requires the 4 pin CPU connector, & it should not be possible to plug the wrong one(requires cpu 1). My guess is on the 24 pin ATX power connector, the extra 4 pins on the far left that can detach are not secured properly. Give it a try.:)
nothing..... I checked everything now again and nothing. I think I will need buy a different PSU.
any advice for request a different PSU in Newegg ?? CoolMax, Seasonic, etc ?
roger_h99.nor
10-10-2006, 01:15 AM
I have to agree with you but I read in another post this board doesnt officially support pc8500 corsair so I have to take my lumps as I had over looked this. I still am hoping ASUS can fix this problem with a BIos fix.
I gave up playing with this ram and have it clocked at pc2 6400 board still can O/C to 3 ghz easy enough but wanted 1066mhz ram speed to. Going sell this board anyway when the new nvidia chipset is out and I hope it supports this ram or just like you stated I could have bought the cheaper ram but spent the extra cash to get the max performance out of boards but I am finding it has been a waste.:confused:
would post CPU-Z pics but dont know how.
__________________________________________________ ____________
OCZ X gamer 700w PSU
Intel E6400 (O/C at 2.9 mhz 1.23 vlts @ 31 celcius, Corsair PC-2 8500 2.2vlts (running as pc2 6400)
Stock Cooling (waiting for my Thermalright ULTRA-120 Heatpipe Cooler to arrive)
P5WDH Deluxe 1407 BIOS
2Gb Cosair XMS2 8500C4
Seagate 7200.10 250GB HD
Standard 1.44 Floppy drive
(1) LG DVD Burner
6800 nvidia Video Card (waiting for release of new 88XX series next month)
On board sound ( Seems better then my old audigy).
Same type of RAM (8500C5) No problem running it at 1:2.
Using bios 1305.
Seigal12
10-10-2006, 07:06 AM
Hi guys,
I have had this problem for awhile and I cannot seem to figure out what it is, hopefully you can help me!
Obviously I am using the P5W DH mobo currently on BIOS version 1305 (whatever) with a Core 2 Duo E6600, GeForce 7950GX2, 2GB GeiL 6400 RAM, Seasonic S12 600W PSU, Seagate Barracuda 300GB HDD. I have cleared the CMOS, already.
Now the problem happens randomly, sometimes it happens less to not at all but also more often then not (like recently). What happens is, when I boot the system after leaving it off for sometime (like overnight) it will sometimes startup, get all the fans running, HDD spinning etc.. but no signal will go to the monitor, there is no boot as the internal speaker stays silent and it'll sit there spinning away without booting until I unplug it from the mains power supply for a few seconds and then plug it back it and try again. Once I do this everything works.
As you can imagine this is quite annoying after awhile, can anyone think of what it might be?
Any help would be great, thanks.
Well, I flashed my Bios to 1407 and still I have this problem.
Does anyone know what this is because of? and most importantly how I can fix it?
Thanks.
IcemaN22
10-10-2006, 08:27 AM
Hi.
The Windows xp loading time took before about 4 seconds and now it takes around 20 seconds, this started after i changed my LG DVD-rom IDE to Samsung DVD burner SATA.
So where the problem is we know.
I tried to format but that didnt help.
On bios it is like this:
Primary IDE Master: [Not Detected] And "Not innstaled"
Primary Ide Slave: [Not Detected] And "Not innstaled"
Third IDE Master : [WDC WD740GD-00FLA1]
Third IDE Slave: [WDC .....]
Fourth IDE MAster: [Not detected] Auto and none, dont help.
Fourth Ide Slave : [TSSTcorpCD/DVDW SH]
What can be the problem?
I have tried to disable qfan but that didnt heelp either. :(
syne_24
10-10-2006, 08:50 AM
Has anyone purchased this board recently? I just bought one for $228.99 the info on it is:
Serial #: 69MOAG13XXXX
Part #: 90-MBB2X1-GOAAY
Just wondering if anyone has any clocking results with september boards.
anything different from 68?
NghtShd
10-10-2006, 09:03 AM
nothing..... I checked everything now again and nothing. I think I will need buy a different PSU.
any advice for request a different PSU in Newegg ?? CoolMax, Seasonic, etc ?
A good dual 12v rail or better. Buy a good brand and don't just go by total wattage. Particularly look at the total wattage available on the 12v rails.
When I first put my board together my PC2-6400 RAM would only run at DDR2-800. I changed the PSU and it works fine now.
The Nemesis
10-10-2006, 09:32 AM
anything different from 68?
I won't know till I get it Thursday. 69 means it was made/processed in September, so it should be a newer board than the others we've seen. I have my fingers crossed that maybe they will clock better as they get newer like the E6600 conroes appear to be doing.:)
eva2000
10-10-2006, 09:52 AM
Hi guys.
I have this motherboad, 6600 dual 2 core, 7900gt and this power supply, OCZ X gamer 700w PSU.
The first time when I was building my computer it didn't boot and was crazy find what the hell was wrong. One friend has a Enermax 535W power supply and I tried with it......... my computer booted. Ok, I thought my OCZ is not working, I will return it to NewEgg for a new one.
Today I have it with me and nothing, is not working :(
Any idea before send it back again ???
thanks in advanced.
if you have 1x PCI-E video card, remember to use PCI-E #1 power connector on 700W OCZ GX psu
Khaotic
10-10-2006, 10:27 AM
sorry. I will explain again
With a Enermax it works, not problems. But now with my new OCZ it doesn't boot, or any fan moving, nothing. Yes, everything is connected, 24V, 12V, the connector for my graphics card, etc.
I have a tester for power supplies and I did a bridge betweend green color and black color and the power supply is working.
I don't understand why is not working.
Is any difference between the connectors CPU1 and CPU2 I mean, different voltage ???
The best power supply tester I've used is the one made by Antec. It's grey and has connectors for all the power supply leads. SATA/ATX/4-pin 12v/PCI-E
It was able to spot/show a 5VSB power rail failure when 2 other testers showed the power supply as GOOD. Some folks may not like Antec products, but I've only had one of their PSU units fail. My count with Enermax is now 6, 3 of which DOA.
The Nemesis
10-10-2006, 10:41 AM
The best power supply tester I've used is the one made by Antec. It's grey and has connectors for all the power supply leads. SATA/ATX/4-pin 12v/PCI-E
It was able to spot/show a 5VSB power rail failure when 2 other testers showed the power supply as GOOD. Some folks may not like Antec products, but I've only had one of their PSU units fail. My count with Enermax is now 6, 3 of which DOA.
Their 550HE model is nice, but antec doesn't make a psu sufficient enough for a conroe dual graphics build. I've not seen a psu over 550w continuous.:stick:
****Edit ****
Oops found one (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817371001)
Yanomami
10-10-2006, 11:02 AM
change the Volt to 2.0 or 2.1 to ur OCZ memory
Timmaah
10-10-2006, 11:08 AM
i know its not asus p5w related but seeing as most of you have this type of ram; what is a safe voltage for the g-skill "hz" ram? At the moment ive got it at 2.05v, the board defaulted it to 1.8v at the beginning.. its got a 100mhz overclock and was wondering how high it could actually go... (it booted at ddr1ghz with 1.8v but was unstable when playing ram-intensive games like bf2)
kaisersose
10-10-2006, 11:16 AM
Not sure if it's just me, but my Corsair DDR2-800 PC2-6400C4 memory is only running at PC2-4800 right now. Is that because the voltage needs to be higher for the memory (even if the next memory voltage setting higher shows up as red in the bios?) or is there something else I can do to get my memory up to PC2-6400. Right now I'm running my e6600 Conroe processor at 2.88GHz w/ 7950 GX2. Any suggestions on optimizing my system beyond this would be wonderful as well. Thanks a bunch.
P.S. - my psu is a BFG 650W.
The Nemesis
10-10-2006, 11:21 AM
i know its not asus p5w related but seeing as most of you have this type of ram; what is a safe voltage for the g-skill "hz" ram? At the moment ive got it at 2.05v, the board defaulted it to 1.8v at the beginning.. its got a 100mhz overclock and was wondering how high it could actually go... (it booted at ddr1ghz with 1.8v but was unstable when playing ram-intensive games like bf2)
2.4v max with good airflow in your case(they will get pretty warm). 2.5-2.6v for max clocking & benching with active airflow over your ram. I would not run over 2.5v for sustained periods of time, its been known to kill some memory(crucial).
mikepaul
10-10-2006, 11:37 AM
Anybody know`s if windows sp2 prof works from a windows p965 installation pc to a i975x based board without re-installing windows xp ? and vice versa ?Until my boot drive died, I was semi-successful in reinstalling XP Home by attaching the drive from my PIII machine to a P5W and doing a 'refresh' reinstall from the CD. All my old problems like no 24/7 active bluetooth connection to make the network happy came along just fine, once all the new motherboard drivers and such were installed. Performance was weak, though, but everything seemed to be where it needed to be to work.
The drive died from defragmenting overheat, and restarting from scratch just means reinstalling things every day for months. If you do try it, back up the boot drive every time it looks like it's working...
mikepaul
10-10-2006, 11:50 AM
any advice for request a different PSU in Newegg ?? CoolMax, Seasonic, etc ?If anything, get one that uses individual cables that you can attach at will.
I have no use for SATA power plugs, and plenty of use for more of the standard LP4 ones. Since nobody makes an adapter to use the SATA ones for LP4 jobs (just the other way), I have wires just sitting there doing nothing next to a jungle of LP4 splitters...
NghtShd
10-10-2006, 01:21 PM
Some folks may not like Antec products, but I've only had one of their PSU units fail. My count with Enermax is now 6, 3 of which DOA.
I've had bad luck with Enermax PSUs failing. They worked great while they were working, but they died early deaths. 2 died after some pulled the power plug out of the wall (separate occasions) and one died when the AC power at my house failed. At least they failed in a nice way, though. No smoke, fire or murdered PC components.
Timmaah
10-10-2006, 01:36 PM
2.4v max with good airflow in your case(they will get pretty warm). 2.5-2.6v for max clocking & benching with active airflow over your ram. I would not run over 2.5v for sustained periods of time, its been known to kill some memory(crucial).
so would it be safe to say 2.3v for 24/7 ? And does anyone reckon i can push this to 1.1ghz if its at 2.3-2.4v?
LordofDoom
10-10-2006, 02:08 PM
Hi.
The Windows xp loading time took before about 4 seconds and now it takes around 20 seconds, this started after i changed my LG DVD-rom IDE to Samsung DVD burner SATA.
So where the problem is we know.
I tried to format but that didnt help.
On bios it is like this:
Primary IDE Master: [Not Detected] And "Not innstaled"
Primary Ide Slave: [Not Detected] And "Not innstaled"
Third IDE Master : [WDC WD740GD-00FLA1]
Third IDE Slave: [WDC .....]
Fourth IDE MAster: [Not detected] Auto and none, dont help.
Fourth Ide Slave : [TSSTcorpCD/DVDW SH]
What can be the problem?
I have tried to disable qfan but that didnt heelp either. :(
I just had this same problem except my 3rd IDE Master says Lite-On SATA... etc, and my 3rd IDE Slave says WDR WD1500... etc.
Any Fixes?
-Satan
Adapa
10-10-2006, 02:30 PM
you should have no problem. Simpy uninstall chipset drivers before you change the HD, and then plug and play. :)
The Nemesis
10-10-2006, 02:39 PM
so would it be safe to say 2.3v for 24/7 ? And does anyone reckon i can push this to 1.1ghz if its at 2.3-2.4v?
Hard to say, not all sticks overclock like mad @ any voltage. I've not gotten mine to break 1 ghz yet even @ 5-5-5-15. I mostly stay between 880-900 Mhz 1:1. I prefer to run 1:1 and since I won't buy anything other than a E6600 with X975 chipset, there's no need for above 1 ghz sticks for me. Pending the 600 board that could change though. Anything above 2.2v I recommend either good airflow in you case or something active over the ram. I use the evercool crab (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835119011) myself.
syne_24
10-10-2006, 02:47 PM
Yea the HZ's will do 1000 but since the P5W has some stability problem on certain memory divider, you are limited to only some. Like 1:1 for instance you can only do about 430-450 if you're lucky. That's one of the thing I was hoping they will fix with newer revision.
Pjoeloe
10-10-2006, 02:49 PM
I have no complaint about the P5W DH board. It is the best motherboard (most stable) I have ever had. I built my first computer using an Asus motherboard in 1990. I later switched to MSI boards. The previous system I built was a DFI LP Ultra-D. It is a POS. I will never buy a DFI board.
well, don`t you just hate the cold boots? ( the fan`s going on and off while cold booting with the freaky clicking / spinning of your hd`s :( ) . If asus solves the boot strap problem just like they did with the p5bs with oc`d settings, this board rock.
I can't get the built-in wifi to work. Windows doesn't seem to find it at all, and installing the newest drivers off asus.com does nothing. Any ideas? Do I have to enable something in the bios?
NghtShd
10-10-2006, 05:14 PM
I can't get the built-in wifi to work. Windows doesn't seem to find it at all, and installing the newest drivers off asus.com does nothing. Any ideas? Do I have to enable something in the bios?
All 8 USB ports should be enabled. That's the default. Did you disabled some or all USB for some reason?
mefromfl
10-10-2006, 07:36 PM
Does anyone know how i can get dvd movies audio or music to go through the coax digital output for the sound card to my Harmon Kardon reciever for my system?
sdumper
10-10-2006, 07:56 PM
Does anyone know how i can get dvd movies audio or music to go through the coax digital output for the sound card to my Harmon Kardon reciever for my system?
are you using onboard audi or a sound card... need more info ;):stick:
Hicksetto
10-11-2006, 12:00 AM
Hi,
I tried to clean install Build 5744 – RC2 but failed with the following error:
"CD/DVD drive device driver not found. Please insert CD, DVD, USB drive, etc that contains the driver files. It is safe to take the Vista DVD out of the drive for this step."
It’s pretty strange to have this as my DVD-RW is not one of the latest models and should be included via cdrom.inf. Although I tried to manually locate the inf file, it failed yet again. I could not have a chance to test this with a DVD-Rom.
I’ve just wanted to see whether anyone had similar issues with LG DVD RW or P5W DH Deluxe or even with any other brand.
My configuration is:
Asus P5W DH Deluxe Mobo (BIOS : 1407)
DVD RW - LG GSA-4160B
Intel Core2 Duo E6600 CPU
G.Skill 2x1GB. DDR2 800MHz.
Samsung 160 GB SATA2 NCQ 160JJ
Asus EAX1900XTX
Thanks in advance!
Hicks
Strikez
10-11-2006, 01:28 AM
sorry. I will explain again
With a Enermax it works, not problems. But now with my new OCZ it doesn't boot, or any fan moving, nothing. Yes, everything is connected, 24V, 12V, the connector for my graphics card, etc.
I have a tester for power supplies and I did a bridge betweend green color and black color and the power supply is working.
I don't understand why is not working.
Is any difference between the connectors CPU1 and CPU2 I mean, different voltage ???
Sounds like your board may be shorted some where remove the mounting screws and re seat your board make sure you dont leave any extra mounting screws in and every thing lines up properly. I had this problem with my older board when I first set it up. Good luck.
mefromfl
10-11-2006, 09:56 AM
are you using onboard audi or a sound card... need more info ;):stick:
I'm using the onboard sorry,
Strikez
10-11-2006, 11:33 AM
Same type of RAM (8500C5) No problem running it at 1:2.
Using bios 1305.
Dang you r lucky cant get mine to do that even with 1305. Crucial says The Corsair 8500 is not supported with this board and has difficulty running with a 975x chipset@ 1066 fsb. Wont hurt to try. But in the mean time if your having problems run the ram at less then 1000 mhz and it should work and you can tighten up the timing and should run fine until asus can fix bios to support this ram to its fullest extent.
kevsta112003
10-11-2006, 12:49 PM
Weird experience:
I was working on a word document and my computer rebooted. It was at 3.0Ghz with 1.32Vcore. It had been stable (not prime 95 6 hour tested) but stable in that it survived probably 45 minutes of prime 95 the day I got the OC, and it had not restarted randomly for a whole month. Out of nowhere it restarts. I lower the OC in bios to 2.4GHz while maintaing the 1.32vcore just so I could get my word document done and then deal with the OC later. However I open up word, and after 15 minutes it crashes again. So ok, its clearly not the OC, because it should be totally stable at 2.4Ghz with 1.32vcore. I put it stock and it hasnt done a random restart since.
Another quirk I have with this board:
I recently install the remote, and ever since then when I turn on my powersuppy (WITHOUT pushing the on button on my cas), after about 3 seconds the computer starts up. The fans spin, hard drive spins, internal speaker beeps as it normally would at bios, but no signal goes to the monitor. I then just hold the power button to get it off, and then push it again and it will all boot up fine with no errors. This is happening ever since I install the remote.
Very odd.
And a question. What vcore roughly should a 3GHz 6400 OC be set at. I found that 1.32Vcore (1.375 in bios) to be stable until this experience (although I doubt the CPU's voltage had anything to do with the random restart)
DarkG
10-11-2006, 01:10 PM
Sounds like your board may be shorted some where remove the mounting screws and re seat your board make sure you dont leave any extra mounting screws in and every thing lines up properly. I had this problem with my older board when I first set it up. Good luck.
Thanks for your answer. I am using a new power supply Enermax 620W and it is working perfectly. I don't understand why my OCZ doesn't work :( I did the same thing with my new Enermax. Anyway, the point is now everything is working and this motherboard is great.
Dummit the 6600 is soooooooooooo fast :)
thanks guys for your comments.
note: at work, we are using Enermax with a UPS 24/7 andd we never have problems. Maybe is just luck, I don't know. I tried all my best with OCZ power supply. My another idea was Corsair but anyway, I have a Enermax and it works...........at the moment with my UPS at home.......... fingers crossed :)
All 8 USB ports should be enabled. That's the default. Did you disabled some or all USB for some reason?
I had 2 disabled, not sure why. I enabled all 8 now, but nothing happened. Windows still can't find the WIFI card. :confused:
NghtShd
10-11-2006, 06:08 PM
I had 2 disabled, not sure why. I enabled all 8 now, but nothing happened. Windows still can't find the WIFI card. :confused:
That's odd. It's my understanding that the WiFi adapter is just an internal USB dongle (on a nonstandard plug). That would also explain why it can't be directly disabled in the BIOS.
MacClipper
10-11-2006, 07:19 PM
Swapped my 1.65v for a 1.85v revision in an attempt to solve my missing RAM problems - sadly, no go.
Strangely, there seems more subtle hardware differences between the older 1.65v and the newer 1.85 boards besides their vMCH, especially with S3 support.
The S3 resume behaviour is different when it comes to the JMicron ATAPI support (1.85v is much better supported by Aug 06 drivers else I get missing ATAPI device issue while 1.65 boards are already OK with Jul 06 versions) and the onboard generic USB hub (1.65v tends to S3 resume at USB1 speeds, 1.85v no problems - yippee!). The differences were noted on both the original 1001 BIOS which the 1.85v revision came with and the 1407 BIOS that I am using now ie. seems BIOS independent. Edit - went to 1305, missing ATAPI device issue solved.
chefnr1
10-11-2006, 09:16 PM
now i've read almost every page in this thread, and what are you suppose to be the best bios for overclocking i have 1101 in fo now but it's not satisfie me that much, so you who have a great overklocking tell me wich one that is the best, i have the rig in sign and MB is that version that have 1.65v to chipset in bios...
Mykou
10-12-2006, 01:40 AM
now i've read almost every page in this thread, and what are you suppose to be the best bios for overclocking i have 1101 in fo now but it's not satisfie me that much, so you who have a great overklocking tell me wich one that is the best, i have the rig in sign and MB is that version that have 1.65v to chipset in bios...
I'm pretty satisfied with 1101 , maybe have a look on 1403 and try some lower multi
chefnr1
10-12-2006, 01:57 AM
ok have to try out som different bios and se wich is the best...
I had 2 disabled, not sure why. I enabled all 8 now, but nothing happened. Windows still can't find the WIFI card. :confused:
I can confirm this is TRUE i spent hours figuring it out then i realised. You can also try re-installing Wifi drivers. Also if you still see unknown item in device manager then you need to install pc probeII.
I can confirm this is TRUE i spent hours figuring it out then i realised. You can also try re-installing Wifi drivers. Also if you still see unknown item in device manager then you need to install pc probeII.
See, the problem is that windows doesn't seem to find the damn thing at all. There is no such thing as a wifi adapter in the device manager! Very weird. I don't understand how it can be so complicated to use a wireless network card :nono:
Uhh... I went into the bios, set the all USB ports enabled again and saved. Now windows all of a sudden found the wifi. Weirdness!
Thickbrit
10-12-2006, 07:15 AM
Here's a few things i have found with my early dh.Bios 1403 has been the best overclocker for me,seems fairly stable apart from occasional loss of video signal at boot/post.
My board will not boot with memory frequency > 499mhz,or fsb much above 400,so i boot with < 399fsb and < 500mhz memory frequency and then memset trd to 7 and my memory will go to 547mhz 4-4-4-4,but not 1mhz more at any volts/timings/devider.Memory stops dead at 547mhz.This board does not seem to like cas 5 at all,with either of the rams in my sig.
My northbridge (fsb limit) goes to 463 fsb (1m) @ 1.9v on normal water,more volts don't help,did about 414 on stock cooler 1.65v,and about 435 on water and 1.65v.
All deviders seem to work fairly well,except the 3/5 (cpu/ram),which seems unreliable,although i haven't looked too hard for the reason yet.
Lower cpu multi's seem to stress the cpu more,at least on the x6800.
Thats about all i've learnt for now,except for 1 last thing,the fact that asus has the 2nd and 3rd primary ram timings totally reversed to all ram software,is totally confusing,annoying,and unnecessary.
Falkentyne
10-12-2006, 08:27 AM
Here's a few things i have found with my early dh.Bios 1403 has been the best overclocker for me,seems fairly stable apart from occasional loss of video signal at boot/post.
My board will not boot with memory frequency > 499mhz,or fsb much above 400,so i boot with < 399fsb and < 500mhz memory frequency and then memset trd to 7 and my memory will go to 547mhz 4-4-4-4,but not 1mhz more at any volts/timings/devider.Memory stops dead at 547mhz.This board does not seem to like cas 5 at all,with either of the rams in my sig.
My northbridge (fsb limit) goes to 463 fsb (1m) @ 1.9v on normal water,more volts don't help,did about 414 on stock cooler 1.65v,and about 435 on water and 1.65v.
All deviders seem to work fairly well,except the 3/5 (cpu/ram),which seems unreliable,although i haven't looked too hard for the reason yet.
Lower cpu multi's seem to stress the cpu more,at least on the x6800.
Thats about all i've learnt for now,except for 1 last thing,the fact that asus has the 2nd and 3rd primary ram timings totally reversed to all ram software,is totally confusing,annoying,and unnecessary.
I'm not sure that lower CPU multipliers really stress the 6800 more.
I think what happens is the CPU tries to complete its "power up" routines at the default multiplier (11), before the BIOS even initializes. That's why the X6800 won't post at lower multipliers and very high FSB unless you increase the vcore. The Nemesis already found this out. The vcore increase you need is equal to the vcore needed for posting at the exact same speed you would have if you were using an 11x multi (example: 400 FSBx9=3600 mhz, but would require the CPU to be able to low level POST at 400x11).
That's what I've found out; maybe I'm wrong.
You should be able to test this by using CrystalCPUID to change the multiplier in windows, from your normal stable overclock (let's say you are using 360x10=3600 or 328x11, and then a clockgen or setfsb or whatever to increase the FSB. (goal=400x9?) CPU should still work at the exact same voltage if the mhz remains the same. But it simply won't POST at 400x9 as it tries to post at 400x11.
Multiplier unlocking is done by the BIOS giving a command to the CPU to lower the multiplier, if I recall correctly, not by "writing" a new multiplier into the CPU flash memory or something like that. Otherwise the CPU would keep the lower multplier as default if you switched motherboards, which it does not. (correct me if I'm wrong).
How did I come to this conclusion?
Rather simple, actually.
my X6800 cpu posts and runs fine (dual prime stable) at 360x10=3600, 1.5125v. But put CPU at 370x10=3700, and the CPU won't even POST (which is unheard of for anyone doing a 100 mhz clock higher). If I increase vcore to 1.55v, it posts all the time. 1.575v for stability in windows/games.
That only makes sense if the CPU were actually trying to POST at 4070 mhz (370x11) at 1.5125v, before BIOS takes over and lowers the multiplier.
Thickbrit
10-12-2006, 08:55 AM
I'm not sure that lower CPU multipliers really stress the 6800 more.
I think what happens is the CPU tries to complete its "power up" routines at the default multiplier (11), before the BIOS even initializes. That's why the X6800 won't post at lower multipliers and very high FSB unless you increase the vcore. The Nemesis already found this out. The vcore increase you need is equal to the vcore needed for posting at the exact same speed you would have if you were using an 11x multi (example: 400 FSBx9=3600 mhz, but would require the CPU to be able to low level POST at 400x11).
That's what I've found out; maybe I'm wrong.
You should be able to test this by using CrystalCPUID to change the multiplier in windows, from your normal stable overclock (let's say you are using 360x10=3600 or 328x11, and then a clockgen or setfsb or whatever to increase the FSB. (goal=400x9?) CPU should still work at the exact same voltage if the mhz remains the same. But it simply won't POST at 400x9 as it tries to post at 400x11.
Multiplier unlocking is done by the BIOS giving a command to the CPU to lower the multiplier, if I recall correctly, not by "writing" a new multiplier into the CPU flash memory or something like that. Otherwise the CPU would keep the lower multplier as default if you switched motherboards, which it does not. (correct me if I'm wrong).
How did I come to this conclusion?
Rather simple, actually.
my X6800 cpu posts and runs fine (dual prime stable) at 360x10=3600, 1.5125v. But put CPU at 370x10=3700, and the CPU won't even POST (which is unheard of for anyone doing a 100 mhz clock higher). If I increase vcore to 1.55v, it posts all the time. 1.575v for stability in windows/games.
That only makes sense if the CPU were actually trying to POST at 4070 mhz (370x11) at 1.5125v, before BIOS takes over and lowers the multiplier.
Yep,that all seems to make perfect sense to me,but i was saying that i think i noticed higher cpu temps (more stress) running on the lower multi's,than on the higher ones,at the same voltage,probably due to increased fsb,although i thought greater fsb would heat the northy and not the cpu.Nice tip about the pre post multi/vcore thing though,cheers.
Mykou
10-12-2006, 09:04 AM
Yep,that all seems to make perfect sense to me,but i was saying that i think i noticed higher cpu temps (more stress) running on the lower multi's,than on the higher ones,at the same voltage,probably due to increased fsb,although i thought greater fsb would heat the northy and not the cpu.Nice tip about the pre post multi/vcore thing though,cheers.
very interrresting !
have to try bios with unlocked multi to compare .
kevsta112003
10-12-2006, 12:18 PM
Does anyone know if their is a way to make it so it doesnt say "Intel CPU uCode error" everytime I boot when the CPU is oc'd?
Mykou
10-12-2006, 12:20 PM
Does anyone know if their is a way to make it so it doesnt say "Intel CPU uCode error" everytime I boot when the CPU is oc'd?
maybe try another bios
kevsta112003
10-12-2006, 01:09 PM
It's happened on everyone I've had. And ive been updating since 0701 I think it was.
iamjcl
10-12-2006, 01:30 PM
Does anyone know if their is a way to make it so it doesnt say "Intel CPU uCode error" everytime I boot when the CPU is oc'd?
It may be you have "microcode updation" disabled in BIOS. Try enabling it and see what you get.
GLENBOY
10-12-2006, 03:01 PM
iamjcl is right you have microcode update under cpu configuration in bios disabled deffo it needs to be enabled
kevsta112003
10-12-2006, 03:40 PM
K I will enable it. Thanks.
Does it do anything timportant other than prevent that error anyway?
GLENBOY
10-12-2006, 03:58 PM
not really mate it just updates the cpu info
Falkentyne
10-12-2006, 04:05 PM
Yep,that all seems to make perfect sense to me,but i was saying that i think i noticed higher cpu temps (more stress) running on the lower multi's,than on the higher ones,at the same voltage,probably due to increased fsb,although i thought greater fsb would heat the northy and not the cpu.Nice tip about the pre post multi/vcore thing though,cheers.
Remember, what I said is just a theory.
I don't know what's really going on. But why would my computer not post at 400x9 @ 1.51v, but posts (and runs 100% stable) at 1.55v?
(BTW 3.6 ghz is dual prime stable at 1.5125v).
graham_h
10-13-2006, 06:11 AM
anyone have a 1305 bios link ?
simonmaltby
10-13-2006, 06:14 AM
anyone have a 1305 bios link ?
All of them are here
http://wiki.p5wdh.de/doku.php?id=downloads:bios
Super Nade
10-13-2006, 06:19 AM
Guys, with the 1407 BIOS, my USB devices have just gone to hell. Mouse lags terribly in FPS games and wireless performance is terrible (in games). Has anybody else experienced this?
graham_h
10-13-2006, 07:06 AM
thanks Simon
Is 1305 still the best in most peoples opinion ?
simonmaltby
10-13-2006, 07:11 AM
thanks Simon
Is 1305 still the best in most peoples opinion ?
I have tried most and am at 1405 atm - i have not seen much difference except the ability to change the CPU multi
Mykou
10-13-2006, 07:54 AM
I have tried most and am at 1405 atm - i have not seen much difference except the ability to change the CPU multi
I couldn't even boot with lower multi ! tried 1402/1403
lol
bazaarboy
10-13-2006, 09:50 AM
Hi I'm having an annoying problem with my setup - would appreciate any ideas..
I have the following spec:
E6600, Hiper Modular Type-R 580W PSU, 2x1GB XMS PC-8500 Ram, 2X 74GB Raptors, Gigabyte 6800 ultra, inside a watercooled Coolermaster Stacker Case - running on an ASUS P5W of course!
The problem I have is this: if I try to turn on the PC it stalls. There's a very short flash of the neon light and fans start to spin but then they stop. If I hold the On button for 5 seconds, then depress, then press again the system comes to life. Boots up normally, fully stable at FSB 360 (no other overclock).
It stalls on startup every time, and I have to go thru the same routine.... arghhh!! very annoying. I tried replugging everything - no difference. Tried several bios versions, currently 1405. I suspect its a PSU issue - but have no proof (only have one PSU) - - Any ideas??
lockeh
10-13-2006, 11:18 AM
i have a problem with memory timmings,
my e6600 is running at 3.3ghz [1.4v] 9x366
but i cant set the timmings my self, i have to use SPD for the board to boot
any way i can fix this cus the SPD timmings suck @ 18 6 6 5
when it should be 12 4 4 4
F!reStr!fe
10-13-2006, 01:23 PM
Hi I just built a system using the E6600 and i have it currently at 9x400 or 3.6 ghz on a Thermaltake Ultra-120. The problem im inquiring about is that I have to hit my MCH volts to 1.75 to get it stable at 3.6 ghz.
The ram im using is the 2GB corsair XMS2 PC2-6400C4.
I really cant figure out why i have to volt the MCH so high.
deadlock7
10-13-2006, 02:59 PM
Guys does anyone know what's the differences for rev1.03 boards?
Super Nade
10-13-2006, 04:36 PM
My USB issues have been solved. I reverted back to BIOS 1305.
kevsta112003
10-13-2006, 06:58 PM
Hi I'm having an annoying problem with my setup - would appreciate any ideas..
I have the following spec:
E6600, Hiper Modular Type-R 580W PSU, 2x1GB XMS PC-8500 Ram, 2X 74GB Raptors, Gigabyte 6800 ultra, inside a watercooled Coolermaster Stacker Case - running on an ASUS P5W of course!
The problem I have is this: if I try to turn on the PC it stalls. There's a very short flash of the neon light and fans start to spin but then they stop. If I hold the On button for 5 seconds, then depress, then press again the system comes to life. Boots up normally, fully stable at FSB 360 (no other overclock).
It stalls on startup every time, and I have to go thru the same routine.... arghhh!! very annoying. I tried replugging everything - no difference. Tried several bios versions, currently 1405. I suspect its a PSU issue - but have no proof (only have one PSU) - - Any ideas??
Same prob right here. It's happening ever since I installed the wireless remote. Do you have the wireless remote installed? I dont think its it, but it could be somehow maybe.
Mine however, Starts up whenever the PSU switch is turned from off to on. Then it stalls (yet still beeps) and I am required to hold button for 5 secs, and then turn it back on a bam its fine. Sometimes it gives me the "overclock failed" when this happens too. Even though im perfectly stable.
bazaarboy
10-14-2006, 01:57 AM
Same prob right here. It's happening ever since I installed the wireless remote. Do you have the wireless remote installed? I dont think its it, but it could be somehow maybe.
Mine however, Starts up whenever the PSU switch is turned from off to on. Then it stalls (yet still beeps) and I am required to hold button for 5 secs, and then turn it back on a bam its fine. Sometimes it gives me the "overclock failed" when this happens too. Even though im perfectly stable.
Very similar: after stalling I can fix it in three ways, hold on button for 5 sec then press again, switch PSU on/off, or reset bios. For convenience I just do the first. I also get the "overclock failed" screen (once every ~20 bootups). I noticed that you have a different PSU... I know that if the load is too small for a PSU (eg <15% of its rated output) it can behave like this - - but my hardware exceeds that threshold significantly. btw I havent used the wireless remote.
kevsta112003
10-14-2006, 08:00 AM
Its really strange. It has never happened to me in the 2 months I've owned the motherboard, only started a week and a half ago, so I'm not 100% sure it's the PSU. I'm going to update bios and see if that helps. Currently I've been using 1305.
fibre
10-14-2006, 10:24 AM
Other than temps seen differently by different progs, what am I looking at here? It's up and running and default and Auto settings, but where do I start to get the system running at spec ?
http://mysite.verizon.net/fibre/PC/screen1.JPG
Any input/help wanted, just prefer cpu and ram at least spec.
Athkatla
10-14-2006, 11:32 AM
P5WDH deluxe (1305)
Cpu E6400 at 2.13Ghz (No Overclocking)
Bios Vcore: Auto (1.35v max written on box)
2 x 1Gb DDR2 at 800 OCZ Platinum 4-5-4-15 (OCZ2P8002GK)
Bios Vdimm: 2.1v (spec voltage)
Timings in bios are 4-4-5-15 (as it should be cause of reversed order of TRCD-TRP)
Hyper Path 3 is Disabled
Throttling is Auto
Everything else on BIOS on Auto
Sapphire 1950xtx
WD Raptor 150gb
SB X-Fi Extreme Music
600w Tagan Easycon XL
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Stable on Memtest v1.65 for 19 hours (37 passes)
Stable on 2 threads of Super Pi mod1.5 XS
Stable on OCCT v1.0 for about an hour
Stable on Everest stress test for about 2 hours
Unstable after 1-2 hours (50 mins last try) on ORTHOS blend test.
"FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4
Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file."
The CPU temperature after the test failed was at 37 C with PC Probe and at 51C - 47C with CoreTemp.
Im using stock CPU fun, 1x12 front and 1x12 rear case funs
Assuming those Temperatures are normal, whats the next step in improving the stability of my system?
thanks in advance
PS. Im not intended to Overclock my system for the time being.
v0dka
10-14-2006, 11:50 AM
I have a few question about this board with an E6600 and some GeIl pc6400 CAS 4. BIOS 1401.
Got it running at 350*9 memory 1:1 all stock voltages, right out of the box. This is 1,5 hours prime stable. 370fsb wouldt boot, what would be the right order in raising voltage for stability? One of the three motherboard voltages or Vcore?
Also, Hyperpath3 is disabled, so is the Thermal stuff. Didnt set timings for the memory yet, so it was set by SPD. Is there anything of this that I should change or other general BIOS settings?
Thanks in advance, Im really new to this platform. :)
lockeh
10-14-2006, 12:04 PM
i have a problem with memory timmings,
my e6600 is running at 3.3ghz [1.4v] 9x366
but i cant set the timmings my self, i have to use SPD for the board to boot
any way i can fix this cus the SPD timmings suck @ 18 6 6 5
when it should be 12 4 4 4
anyone?
Trey Mik III
10-14-2006, 12:17 PM
To some one with some technical expertise.
I have a P5WDH Deluxe with a smith field chip my Ram is 1 stick 1 Gig OCZ DDR 2 800 Gold 5+5+5+12. I can give more specs on my perifs ect. if needed looking for a guide to setting up the bios for all possibilities of over clocking. I can over clock right know 30% however I’m looking for more. I’ll Give my specs in another thred or email them to someone who can help.
My problem is Boot up time is slower than my 2002 Asus P4-TE Rambus board with 768mg of ram and a 1.8 G P4 Processor North wood.
Trey Mik III
10-14-2006, 12:19 PM
Joey’s System Semi Budget Build:
Mother board:
Model Brand ASUS Model P5W DH DELUXE/WIFI-AP <GREEN> Supported CPU CPU Socket Type Socket T (LGA 775) CPU Type Intel Core 2 Extreme/Core 2 Duo/Pentium EE/Pentium FSB 1066/800MHz Supported CPU Technologies Hyper-Threading Technology Chipsets North Bridge Intel 975X South Bridge Intel ICH7R Memory Number of DDR2 Slots 4x 240pin DDR2 DDR2 Standard DDR2 800 Maximum Memory Supported 8GB Dual Channel Supported Yes Expansion Slots AGP Slots None PCI Express x16 2 PCI Express x1 2 PCI Slots 3 Storage Devices PATA 2 x ATA100 up to 4 Devices SATA 3Gb/s 6 x Internal Serial ATA 3.0Gb/s ports
1 x External Serial ATA 3.0Gb/s port SATA RAID RAID 0/1/5/10 Matrix RAID Additional RAID Controller Jmicron JMB363
Silicon Image 4723 Onboard Video Onboard Video No Onboard Audio Audio Chipset Realtek ALC882M Audio Channels 8 Channels Onboard LAN LAN Chipset Marvell 88E8053 Second LAN Chipset Marvell 88E8053 Max LAN Speed Dual 10/100/1000Mbps Rear Panel Ports PS/2 2 COM 1 USB 4x USB 2.0 IEEE 1394 1x 1394a S/PDIF Out 1x Optical and 1x Coaxial Audio Ports 6 Ports Onboard USB Onboard USB 4x USB 2.0 Onboard 1394 Onboard 1394 1x 1394a Physical Spec Form Factor ATX Dimensions 12.0" x 9.6" Features Power Pin 24 Pin Features ASUS Digital Home Features:
ASUS EZ-Backup:
2 x Serial ATA 3.0Gb/s support hardware RAID 0 or RAID 1 mode
Plug and play: Default setting in RAID 1 mode, no driver, no BIOS configuration required
ASUS WiFi-AP Solo :
54 Mbps IEEE 802.11g and backwards compatible with 11 Mbps IEEE 802.11b
Software Access point mode
Station mode : Infrastruceure mode and Ad-Hoc mode
1 x WiFi-AP Solo antenna jack
Digital Home Accessories:
1 x Asus DH Remote
1 x ASUS DH Remote Receiver
1 x ASUS MP3-In module
1 x ASUS WiFi-AP Solo Antenna
2 x ASUS EZ-Backup SATA cables
Asus DH Remote:
Power, Quick Power, Noise Off, EZ WiFi, Full Screen, AP Launch, Media Control Zone
ASUS MP3-In
Processor:
Model Brand Intel Series Pentium D Model BX80551PE2666FN CPU Socket Type CPU Socket Type LGA 775 Tech Spec Core Smithfield Multi-Core Dual-Core Name Pentium D 805 Operating Frequency 2.66GHz FSB 533MHz L1 Cache 24KB+32KB L2 Cache 2 x 1MB Process Type 90 nm Vista Ready Yes 64 bit Support Yes Hyper-Threading Support No Virtualization Technology Support No Multimedia Instruction MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3 Voltage 1.25-1.4V Cooling Device Heatsink and Fan included
Memory:
Model Brand OCZ Series Gold Model OCZ2G8001G Type 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Tech Spec Capacity 1GB Speed DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Cas Latency 5 Timing 5-5-5-12 Voltage 2.0V ECC No Buffered/Registered Unbuffered Heat Spreader Yes Features Gold Layered XTC Heatspreader
Video Card:
Model Brand GECUBE Model GC-HM1600PG2-D3 (RoHS) Interface Interface PCI Express x16 Chipset Chipset Manufacturer ATI GPU Radeon X1600PRO Core clock 500MHz PixelPipelines 12 Memory Memory Size 256MB HyperMemory to 512MB Memory Interface 128-bit Memory Type GDDR2 3D API DirectX DirectX 9 OpenGL OpenGL 2.0 Ports DVI 2 TV-Out HDTV/S-Video Out VIVO No General Vista Ready Yes Tuner None RAMDAC 400 MHz Cooler With Fan System Requirements Intel Pentium 4 or AMD Athlon CPU
1GB or more for best performance when HyperMemory to 512MB
A motherboard with one PCI Express x16 slot
Specialized PCI Express 500 watt or greater power supply recommended.
Windows XP with Service Pack 2 (SP2)
High-resolution MultiSync or multi-frequency monitors or any other type or VGA monitor.
Digital flat-panel (DFP) displays or digital CRT display.
Connecting Device for CrossFire--Only one display while enable Cross-Fire capability. Features Features Dual DVI (double Dual-link) + HDTV + D-sub support
ATI’s Avivo? technology connects to home entertainment devices and creates true-to-life image reproduction, and the smoothest video playback ever offered by ATI. Get high image fidelity with CRT and LCD displays, TVs, rear projection and plasma TVs, and projectors.
New ultra-threaded core 3D architecture with ATI’s revolutionary Avivo video and display technology to drive performance to new heights with incredible speed and intense 3D graphics.
The Radeon X1600 is CrossFire Ready to deliver multi-GPU gaming performance.
Shader Model 3.0
New High Dynamic Range features visual effects, and enhances realism with adaptive anti-aliasing and lightening fast performance.
Accelerated MPEG-2, MPEG-4, DivX,WMV9, VC-1, and H.264 decoding (including DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-ray playback), encoding & transcoding.
CATALYST: Full Windows Vista LDDM support including Aero Glass visuals Packaging Package Contents HDTV Cable
1-2 S-Video Cable
ATI Driver
DVI to VGA Dongle
Manual
Power Supply:
Model Brand OCZ Model OCZ600GXSSLI Series GameXStream SPEC Type ATX12V Maximum Power 600W Fans 120mm fan x 1 PFC Active Main Connector 20+4-Pin Dual +12V Yes SLI Support Yes Modular Cabling Support No Efficiency 80% @ 115V (Typical load)
83% @ 230V (Typical load) Over Voltage Protection YES Input Voltage 100 - 240 V Input Frequency Range 50/60 Hz Input Current 10A @ 115V, 5A @ 230V Output +3.3@36A,+5V@30A,+12V1@18A,+12V2@18A,+12V3@18A,+12 V4@18A,-12V@0.5A,+5VSB@3.0A MTBF >100,000 Hours Approvals CB/CE/CSA/UL/FCC Features Connectors 1 x 20+4-pin ATX
1 x 4-pin/8-pin CPU
2 x PCI-Express
6 x 4-pin peripheral
2 x 4-pin floppy
6 x SATA Features Designed specifically for the demanding computing environments of PC Enthusiasts, Power Users, and Gamers.
The GameXStream features high-quality components to ensure your PC’s vital hardware is supplied with clean, stable and reliable power without compromising effectiveness.
Remains virtually silent and supremely cool even at peak loads.
Drives:
Sony DVD-RAM Burner:
Model Brand SONY Type DVD Burner Model DRU820A Performance DVD-ROM Access Time 130ms CD-ROM Access Time 135ms Cache 2M WRITE Speed DVD+R 16X DVD+RW 8X DVD-R 16X DVD-RW 6X CD-R 48X CD-RW 32X DVD+R DL 8X DVD-R DL 4X DVD-RAM 5X READ Speed DVD-ROM 16X CD-ROM 48X Physical Spec Form Factor 5" Panel Color Beige Configuration Load Type Tray Interface E-IDE/ATAPI Software Operating Systems Supported Windows 2000 or Windows XP Home or Professional Operating Systems Software Contents SONY Software Disc Features System Requirements Pentium III 800 MHz or faster (or equivalent) CPU minimum. Pentium IV 1.6GHz or faster (or equivalent) CPU is recommended for real time video authoring/editing
128 MB of RAM (256 MB or more for Windows XP Systems)
10GB of hard disk space Features Works With 4.7GB DVD+R/+RW and 8.5GB Double/Dual Layer Discs
Record Up To 4 Hours Of Video on Double/Dual Layer Discs
Easy To Install EIDE/ATAPI Interface Drive For Windows 2000/XP
Preserve Home Movies On DVD
Back Up Your Computer, Make Music Discs, and More
Ultra Fast CD Burning Too Packaging Package Contents Internal DRU-820A Double/Dual Layer DVD drive
Black front panel replacement kit
ATAPI cable and mounting hardware
User’s Manual
Software CD-ROM
Sony DVD Drive:
Model Brand SONY Type DVD-ROM Drive Model DDU1615 Performance DVD-ROM Access Time 80-220ms CD-ROM Access Time 165ms Cache 512K READ Speed DVD-ROM 16X CD-ROM 48X Physical Spec Form Factor 5" Panel Color Beige Configuration Load Type Tray Interface IDE Features Features Internal Half Heigh Drive, Short Form Factor
Hard Drive:
Model Brand Western Digital Series Caviar SE Model WD1600JB Performance Interface IDE Ultra ATA100 Capacity 160GB RPM 7200 RPM Cache 8MB Average Seek Time 8.9ms Average Write Time 10.9ms Average Latency 4.2ms Physical Spec Form Factor 3.5" Features Features FAST
COOL
Cool operation results in the highest reliability, even in intensely hot environments such as digital video recorders. That's why these, the coolest on the market, are the drives of choice for the world's leading consumer electronics and PC manufacturers.
QUIET
The technology that Tom's Hardware Guide called "very fast and nearly silent" is used throughout this family of drives. Our WhisperDrive technology minimizes noise to levels near the threshold of human hearing.
To cut seek noise, SoftSeek technology streamlines read/write seeking algorithms, resulting in more efficient operation.
Floppy:
Model Brand SONY Model MPF920 Beige Spec Panel Color Beige Capacity 1.44MB Average Access Time 94ms Track to Track Access Time 3ms Rotational Speed 300 rpm Interface Internal Media Type 3.5" Micro Floppy Disks Operating Systems Supported Windows 98SE/ ME/ 2000/ XP Features High Quality and Reliability Physical Spec Form Factor 3.5"
USB Devices:
Printer:
Model Brand Brother Model MFC-7420 Recommended Use Personal Printer SPEC Print Technology Laser Output Type Monochrome Printer Black Print Speed 20ppm Max. Print Speed 11~20ppm Black Print Quality HQ1200 (Up to 2400 x 600) Max. Duty Cycle 10,000 printed pages Fax SPEC Color Fax No Fax Transmission Speed (seconds per page) Approx. 6 seconds per page Fax Memory Up to 500 page fax memory Copier SPEC Copy speed, Black 20cpm Black Max. Copy Speed 11~20cpm Copy Quality, Black 600 dpi Class Scanner SPEC Scan Resolution, Enhanced Up to 9600 dpi Scan Resolution, Optical 600x2400 dpi Scan Technology 24-bit Paper Handling / Media Input Capacity, std. 250-Sheet Input Capacity Output Capacity, std. 100 sheets Media sizes supported Minimum Input for ADF (Width/Height):5.8"/5.8"
Maximum Paper Width/Length (Paper Tray):8.5"/14.0" Hardware SPEC Noise Level (Approx.) Machine Noise (Standby/Operating): 30 dBA / 53 dBA Memory, std. 16MB Modem Speed 14.4K bps Fax Modem Cartridges Compatible DR350/ TN350 Power Requirements AC 120V 50/60Hz Power Consumption Power Consumption - Sleep/Standby/Peak: 10W/75W/1032W Ports USB Ports Yes LPT Ports Yes Compatibility Emulations GDI Windows Compatible 98/98SE, Me, NT® 4.0, 2000, XP Macintosh Compatible OS 9.1-9.2, OS X 10.2.4
or greater Physical SPEC Dimensions 17.0" x 15.6" x 11.6" Weight 20.8 lbs. Warranty Manufacturer Warranty 1 Year Limited
Voice Recorder:
Olympus VN-960 Digital Voice Recorder
• Built-in microphone and earphone jack
• 128MB flash memory
• Up to 16 hours recording time in LP mode; up to 5 hours in higher quality settings
• Large, backlit LCD screen
• Files are saved in ADPCM (WAV) file format
• 3 quality modes
• Program the VN-960PC to begin and end recording audio at specific times
• Timer recording lets you set the start and end times for a recording
• Listen to audio at speeds 20% slower or 30% faster than real time with Slow and Fast Playback functions
• Variable Control Voice Actuator (VVCA) setting saves time and battery life by recording only when sound is sensed
• 4 folders are capable of storing up to 100 files each
• Alarm playback can be set to notify you of important meetings, dates, times, and more
• LCD display shows date, time, battery life and more
• Includes Creative Labs Sound Blaster 16 or 100% compatible card
• Metal clip for hands-free recording
• Two AAA batteries provide up to 25 hours of continuous operation
Hubs:
Cyber Power USB 2.0 Hub:
The latest product innovation from CyberPower Systems provides you with the ability to easily connect and operate up to four USB devices simultaneously. The new USB 2.0 4-port powered Hub features a compact space saving design freeing up valuable space on your desktop; plus, you will have quick access to your USB devices. Monitoring your device activity has never been easier with LEDs that indicate power status as well as which ports are active. Dual speed compatibility means this Hub works seamlessly with all your USB 1.1 and USB 2.0 devices.
Features
• USB 2.0 data transfer up to 480 Mbps
• Easy Plug and Play installation
• Works with all USB 2.0 and USB 1.1 Devices
• Ultra compact space saving design
Requirements
• Windows 98SE, ME, 2000 or XP
• Mac OS 8.6 and above
Contents
• USB 2.0 4 port hub
• AC power adapter
• 18" USB 2.0 cable
• User manual
Connectivity
Form Factor Hub/Switch
Additional Information
Self Powered ? No
Manufacturer Information
Parts Warranty Lifetime
Labor Warranty Lifetime
Creative Labs Muvo:
Model Brand Creative Model 73PD051100006 Features Features Built-in FM radio and recorder
Integrated voice recorder with built-in microphone
Skip free audio, perfect for the active lifestyle
Drag and drop for songs and data files between your computer and the player
5-band custom equalizer and 4 presets (Jazz, Rock, Pop and Classical)
Stores data files such as photos and presentations Video Spec Display Displays ID3 tags for song title
Reversible LCD for left or right handed operation Audio Spec SNR >90dB Frequency Range 20Hz to 20kHz File Format MP3/WMA Audio Recording Format IMA ADPCM, Mono General Spec Color Silver Capacity 128MB Interface USB 2.0 Ports 3.5mm stereo mini jack Battery 1 x AAA Alkaline battery Playing Time Up to 15 hours of MP3 Dimensions 1.4" x 2.9" x 0.6" Weight 1.1 oz (without battery)
TI-83 Calculator Graph Link Cable:
Texas Instruments Graphing Calculator Connectivity Kit
The TI Connectivity Kit includes a TI-GRAPH LINK USB cable for Windows/Mac and TI Connect software. Use this powerful combination to add really cool Apps to your TI graphing handheld, such as Organizer, StudyCards, Periodic Table, Puzzle Pack, GeoMaster, and more.
"What else can you do with a TI Connectivity Kit", you ask? Why, you can use it to create captivating lab reports and homework assignments, capture screen shots from your TI handheld, create and transfer StudyCards stacks, or download data from the internet to your TI graphing handheld. Even transferring data between Microsoft Excel and your TI-83 plus, is a snap when you use the CellSheet App. And it's easy to download software updates and the latest Apps from education.ti.com with your TI Connectivity Kit.
UPS Battery Back Up:
Model Brand APC Model BE350R Iuput Input Voltage Range 88 - 139 V Input Frequency 50/60 Hz Output VA Rating 350 VA Watts 200 W Output Voltage 120V Outlets 8 Battery Battery Run Time 9.7 minutes (100 Watts) Battery Recharge Time 16 hour(s) Spec Interface Port USB Management Software YES Approvals cUL, FCC, NOM, UL Surge Protection Data Line Protection RJ-11 Modem/Fax/DSL protection Surge Energy Rating 365 joules Physical Spec Weight 22.05 lbs. Dimensions 15.8 x 10.2 x 9.5 inches Features Features Battery replacement without tools
Disconnected battery notification
Intelligent battery management
LED status indicators
USB connectivity
Key Board & Mouse:
Model Brand Logitech Name Cordless Internet Pro Desktop Model 967461-0403 Keyboard Connection Type Keyboard Interface USB Keyboard SPEC Design Style Slim Palm Rest Detachable Normal Keys 104 Function Keys 8 Keyboard Color Black Wireless Type RF Wireless Power Supply 2x AA Batteries Mouse Included Mouse Included Yes Mouse Connection Type Mouse Interface USB Mouse SPEC Hand Orientation Both Hands Tracking Method Optical Buttons 3 Scrolling Capability 1x Wheel Mouse Color Black Features Features The slim Internet Pro Keyboard provides media and Internet control with
Must be purchased with Hardware
one-touch access to frequent tasks such as email, visiting home pages, and
music.
Monitors:
Samsung Sync master:
Model 955DF-T/T (Two-Tone)
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CRT Size 19" Viewable 18" Type DynaFlatTM Dot Pitch (mm) 0.20 (H) Surface Treatment Smart IIITM Deflection 90 degrees
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FREQUENCY Horizontal (kHz) 30-85 Vertical (Hz) 50-160
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BANDWIDTH Maximum (MHz) 185
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RESOLUTION Maximum 1600x1200 / 68 Hz Recommended 1280x1024 / 75 Hz
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SIGNAL INPUT Connector 15-pin d-Sub Sync Signal Separate H/V
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PLUG AND PLAY DDC DDC 2B/2Bi
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POWER Consumption 100 Watts Voltage AC90~264VAC, 50/60Hz Universal Power
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MICRO-
PROCESSOR Factory Saving 8 modes User Saving 8 modes
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CONTROLS Brightness, Contrast, Position, Size, Zoom, Parallelogram, Rotation, Pincushion, Trapezoid, Pinbalance, Linearity, Moire, Color Temperature, Degauss, Recall, Video Input level, Display Timing, Menu Color, Menu Duration, Halftone, Languages, OSD Lock/Unlock, Highlight Zone
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POWER
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CABINET COLOR Front/Back Silver/Black
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DIMENSIONS Physical (WxHxD) 17.3x18.1x18.1 (inches) Packaging (WxHxD) 24.6x21.3x22.0 (inches)
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WEIGHT Net(Physical) 46.2lbs Gross (packaging) 51.7lbs
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FEATURES Highlight ZoneTM, Natural ColorTM Software
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INCLUDED 15-pin d-Sub
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OPTIONAL USB Hub
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WARRANTY Parts/Labor/CRT 3/3/3
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COMPATIBILITY Operating Systems Windows
Macintosh
Sun Microsystems
UNIX
Gateway Flat Panel with DVI & AVI:
Specifications
Agency
CertificationsEnergy Star�, UL, cUL, FCC Class B,
NOM, CE, TUV/GS, VCCIBrightness250 cd/m2Colors16.2 millionContrast Ratio450:1Dimensions
(W x H x D)13.71" x 13.60" x 5.67" with stand
13.71" x 11.32" x 1.97" without standDisplay StandIncluded (Tilt backward/forward adjustments)Electrical
RequirementsNormal operation: 40 Watts
Off (power-save): 2 Watts
100-240 VAC, 50/60 HzLimited
Warranty1 year parts and laborMountCompatible with VESA (4x100mm) compliant mounting solutionsPanel TypeLCD Active Matrix TFTPixel Pitch0.297mmPortsAC Power Input, Kensington Security Lock SlotResolution1024 x 768 (native and maximum)Response Time16msScreen TreatmentAntiglareSignal InputsAnalog (VGA) � 15-pin mini d-sub VGA
Digital (DVI-D) 24-pin DVD-DTiltYesUser ControlsPower On/Off Button, On Screen Display Menu Control ButtonsViewable Area15 inches (diagonal)Viewing Angles130� Left/Right; 100� Up/DownWeight5.74 lbs. with stand
7.94 lbs. packaged
Speakers:
Description & Specifications
The subwoofer is not the same one as in the 221's. Upgraded not only to five satellites from two, this system has a resemblance to the 221 model in style. The boom box gets more power and a 5.25 inch driver, up from 4 inches.
As these satellites are in sealed boxes, I was unable to verify that the 3 inch mid/high driver in the very same one from the ACS-48 and 621/641 models; however, after listening to the 251's for over 40 hours, I can conclude that they do have many of the same characteristics.
• Power Output: 45 Watts RMS @ 1% THD, 60 Watts RMS @ 10% THD, 90 Watts Total Peak Power
• Frequency Response: 35Hz-18KHz
• Drivers: 5.25" Woofer, 3" Satellites
• Shielded Satellites
• Input Impedance: 10Kohm
• S/N : >70dB
phile
10-14-2006, 12:27 PM
anyone?
You didn't read the first post in this thread. :slapass:
-phil
Trey Mik III
10-14-2006, 12:29 PM
i HAVE A DIFFERENT MEMORY AND PROCESSOR
ALONG WITH A LOT OF OTHER usb DEVICES
Trey Mik III
10-14-2006, 12:34 PM
Also i understand that a ATA device is slower than sata however it should not be slower than a P4 1.8 i would think
P.S. i'll post my software specs later for know i'm running win xp64 pro
775911
10-14-2006, 12:45 PM
Can anyone tell me all the ratios available with this board?
phile
10-14-2006, 12:46 PM
i HAVE A DIFFERENT MEMORY AND PROCESSOR
ALONG WITH A LOT OF OTHER usb DEVICES
You are running a P5WDH and encountering an FSB wall at or around 360 with manual timings? I don't see what the confusion is. The front-page clearly states this known issue.
-phil
v0dka
10-14-2006, 01:53 PM
I cant get my microphone to work, connected it to the pink connector and audio out works fine...
Tried all kinds of settings and raised the right windows volumes.
jimborae
10-14-2006, 03:32 PM
i have a problem with memory timmings,
my e6600 is running at 3.3ghz [1.4v] 9x366
but i cant set the timmings my self, i have to use SPD for the board to boot
any way i can fix this cus the SPD timmings suck @ 18 6 6 5
when it should be 12 4 4 4
If you'd read the start of this thread you'd see this is a known problem. Either get some Corsair ram or get a different different board or hope that Asus fix it with a new bios.
jimborae
10-14-2006, 03:34 PM
Joey’s System Semi Budget Build:
Mother board:
............................................
WTF :slapass:
NO1B4ME
10-14-2006, 03:42 PM
WTF :slapass:
HAHAHA :slapass:
Is there any way of getting the board to read the SPD timings correctly? Mine reads my Corsair 4-4-4 ram as 5-5-5. As I need to use SPD to get over 360, it's *slightly* annoying having to run the ram at higher timings than necessary.
xpsentity
10-14-2006, 05:08 PM
Is there any way of getting the board to read the SPD timings correctly? Mine reads my Corsair 4-4-4 ram as 5-5-5. As I need to use SPD to get over 360, it's *slightly* annoying having to run the ram at higher timings than necessary.
Not as far as I've heard..
phile
10-14-2006, 05:18 PM
Is there any way of getting the board to read the SPD timings correctly? Mine reads my Corsair 4-4-4 ram as 5-5-5. As I need to use SPD to get over 360, it's *slightly* annoying having to run the ram at higher timings than necessary.
In all likelyhood, there is nothing wrong with this board's ability to read the memory's SPD. It's fairly standard for the SPD to be programmed with looser than spec timings.
Have a look at the specs for what I believe is your memory
http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/products/specs/TWIN2X1024-6400C4.pdf
-phil
lockeh
10-15-2006, 01:10 AM
hmmm i might have to concider a new board then
thinking of the intel bad axe
In all likelyhood, there is nothing wrong with this board's ability to read the memory's SPD. It's fairly standard for the SPD to be programmed with looser than spec timings.
Have a look at the specs for what I believe is your memory
http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/products/specs/TWIN2X1024-6400C4.pdf
-phil
Ah right, that sort of sucks. I forked out the extra cash for C4 modules, and I can't even use the timings they're made for? Blah. Let's HOPE Asus figures out the "no boot above 360 with manually set timings" problem sometime soon :slapass:
Khaotic
10-15-2006, 04:31 AM
Ok, i had to edit this post. It was to much of a rant. :(
But i will say that the SPD issue has really got me BURNED. I have some SWEET ram that I would love to try, but oh yeagh - its enhance latency is CRAP becuase you can't set them when you hit a fSB above 360. Isn't that why I bought it to begin with- so i could TRY and get to 400 with nice timings?
Heck, if 366 is going to be my max FSB overclock, then some sweet DDR2-5400 is all i need to get. As long as its timings are SPD default and not "enhanced" by manual settings and more voltage.
With the new BIOS there is the chance to change multi's. Which, should let me get to a higher FSB to REACH 400 while keeping the CPU clock low. However, its not working. 3300Mhz is my 100% stable speed now. When I try and get to that with a higher FSB than 366, it's a dead right after POST.
So, has this ability to lower the multiplier HELPED anybody? Anyone acutally gotten their FSB to increase with it?
I'm guessing its my CPU. It's a "weak" 24 (L624A819) -- haha. play on words. GET IT :stick:
Yes, I've lost my mind. I have another setup - a P5B Deluxe WiFi with a week 26 (L626A301) Allendale (E6400) that is acting pretty good. ON air cooling, with the motherboard voltage set to AUTO (it's hitting the socket with 1.51 per the AI Suite) I have reached 425FSB for 3400Mhz. I only stopped there becuase i'm on AIR cooling and my temps are a little high. (Using SCYTHE INFINITY with Evercool fans)
Scratch that: Make that a 450FSB for 3.6Ghz - now running ORTHOS
I need to go to the YOU KNOW YOU OVERCLOCK TO MUCH WHEN....... thread and seek therapy.
deadlock7
10-15-2006, 05:32 AM
Actually i had 3 mobos.The first one (rev1.65) oced at 470(modded 1.85vmch),the second one(rev1.85) at 455 and the last one(rev1.85 1.03G) at 430!!!!What a disappointment..
sdumper
10-15-2006, 05:35 AM
Can anyone tell me all the ratios available with this board?
Man you avatar is so distracting that I forgot what I was going to post ;)
Thickbrit
10-15-2006, 08:43 AM
Can anyone tell me all the ratios available with this board?
3/4 = fsb x 0.75
1/1 = fsb x 1.00
4/5 = fsb x 1.25
3/4 = fsb x 1.33
2/3 = fsb x 1.50
3/5 = fsb x 1.66
1/2 = fsb x 2.00
jozzy
10-15-2006, 08:50 AM
anyone here can boot with E6600 3,6Ghz (fsb 400, 2:3) @ 600mhz 5-5-5-15 from bios??
Thickbrit
10-15-2006, 08:56 AM
anyone here can boot with E6600 3,6Ghz (fsb 400, 2:3) @ 600mhz 5-5-5-15 from bios??
I doubt you'd be able to do that,because the board will try to post with trd 6 and will fail,i have to boot with memory at less than 500,set trd 7 in memset,then clockgen it up.Either that or it don't seem to like cas 5,just like mine.
Mykou
10-15-2006, 09:32 AM
Actually i had 3 mobos.The first one (rev1.65) oced at 470(modded 1.85vmch),the second one(rev1.85) at 455 and the last one(rev1.85 1.03G) at 430!!!!What a disappointment..
I still own the same P5W DH but I didn't think it was worth buying new rev ..
Waiting for future mobos to test and perhaps switch
The Nemesis
10-15-2006, 09:58 AM
I'm on my 3rd P5W DH. My first board(1.65vmch) wouldn't do over 430FSB, my second & third both would do 450FSB, but I just realized the 1407 bios was stopping my third board from matching my seconds performance. I've now flashed back to 1403 & am currently testing.
Fr3ak
10-15-2006, 02:17 PM
Is there any way of getting the board to read the SPD timings correctly? Mine reads my Corsair 4-4-4 ram as 5-5-5. As I need to use SPD to get over 360, it's *slightly* annoying having to run the ram at higher timings than necessary.
SPD timings are always lower than the ram's rated timings.
The reason why thats the case is simple. Most overclocking memory needs >2V. JEDEC norm is 1.8V, so you would not even be able to boot into the bios with cl4 and 1.8V. You have to overvolt the Ram manually and set the timings manually to get rated speed.
With my MDT ram, I had a black screen when setting ram timings manually above 400MHZ FSB. Even when I set the same settings than auto. I had to run SPD to boot above 400MHz. With the G.Skill ram I dont have that issue, so its Ram delated.
The max ramspeed I can run is 540mhz with 2.2V. Makes no difference if I use more vdimm, so I suppse its the board limiting me. But thats not that bad, as 1:1 seems to be the fastest setting for me.
Falkentyne
10-15-2006, 02:24 PM
I'm on my 3rd P5W DH. My first board(1.65vmch) wouldn't do over 430FSB, my second & third both would do 450FSB, but I just realized the 1407 bios was stopping my third board from matching my seconds performance. I've now flashed back to 1403 & am currently testing.
Hmm odd,
I never saw any difference in performance between 1407 and 1305...
Tested in superpi 32m, 3dmark 2005, Vietcong (beginning level with pretty low fps even on latest hardware, but good on c2d....)
Tallman
10-15-2006, 03:04 PM
I have the P5W-DH and can boot with manual ram timings up to 390 fsb
(high as my proc will boot) @ stock timings of 4-5-4-15
Ram in sig
The Nemesis
10-15-2006, 04:55 PM
Hmm odd,
I never saw any difference in performance between 1407 and 1305...
Tested in superpi 32m, 3dmark 2005, Vietcong (beginning level with pretty low fps even on latest hardware, but good on c2d....)
For some reason when running with 8 multiplier on the 1407 bios 445-450 would random restart and only do 1mb Pi. Flashing back to 1403 the restarts went away & @ 8 X 450 can do 1mb pi, 8 X 445 can do 8 mb pi repeatedly but 32mb pi is hit & miss(my previous board wouldn't do 32mb pi @445FSB at all), & 440FSB is stable for everything.
the.edge
10-15-2006, 05:14 PM
weither i run an overclock or not, windows wont boot all the way ( freezes during loading) if i disable the built in audio drivers.
im tryign to disable it so that i can gain the full use of my XFI
The Nemesis
10-15-2006, 05:22 PM
nevermind
the.edge
10-15-2006, 05:24 PM
its hung a few times, but when i recently tried to disable that, it would hang no matter what...i re-enabled it, it worked.
this is not a fresh install of windows
one thing i might suspect is my PSU, its 430w, but with the conroe's low power consumption, i've been assuming its enough
specs. are now in sig
graham_h
10-15-2006, 05:42 PM
775911
damn that avatar is very distracting :eek: :clap:
the.edge
10-15-2006, 09:37 PM
anyone? i would really like the sound quality back, and the use of media source
jkresh
10-15-2006, 10:05 PM
the.edge even if you boot with it enabled you can just disable the onboard sound in windows and use the xfi, or leave it enabled and just set the xfi as your primary output
v0dka
10-16-2006, 01:54 AM
I cant disable C1E for some reason, only option showing in BIOS is auto. EIST is disabled.
BIOS 1401, any ideas?
Another question, should I give the 1403 a go?
mikepaul
10-16-2006, 06:34 AM
Disabling EHCI as a pre-emptive strike last night didn't work, after reading it had cleared up the USB initialization failure for some. Today I couldn't get the the computer to start after a problem that seemed to need a restart to clear up. Eventually I got the 2048MB message indicating the USB initialization had finished, but then the HD search took too long and I gave up.
I'm putting EHCI back to Enabled and I'll hope for a cure to be discovered someday...
ewitte
10-16-2006, 08:09 AM
I cant disable C1E for some reason, only option showing in BIOS is auto. EIST is disabled.
BIOS 1401, any ideas?
Another question, should I give the 1403 a go?
It did it for me. I had to go in and load setup defaults. After that all the options came up again.
roope
10-16-2006, 01:36 PM
With 1407 BIOS I couldn't use manual timings to RAM. System booted up normaly if I had SPD enabled but with manual timings it didn't even POST and I had to clear CMOS everytime just to get back to BIOS!? And this was with stock 266 FSB.
Now I'm back using good ol' 1305 and everything works like charm. No problems setting manually spec'd 5-5-5-12 for my Corsair XMS2's. Anyone else got the same problem with new BIOS?
Sparx
10-16-2006, 01:41 PM
What is the latest about Asus correcting the reset power shutting down bug?
You know when all power shuts off for a moment and scares the crap out of us, especially after a BIOS change. :cool:
sparx
Ic3man
10-16-2006, 01:51 PM
With 1407 BIOS I couldn't use manual timings to RAM. System booted up normaly if I had SPD enabled but with manual timings it didn't even POST and I had to clear CMOS everytime just to get back to BIOS!? And this was with stock 266 FSB.
Now I'm back using good ol' 1305 and everything works like charm. No problems setting manually spec'd 5-5-5-12 for my Corsair XMS2's. Anyone else got the same problem with new BIOS?
I can set manual timings regardless of FSB - same ram, latest bios(1407) Currently at 417x9 4-4-4-12 1:1.
jimborae
10-16-2006, 02:36 PM
I can set manual timings regardless of FSB - same ram, latest bios(1407) Currently at 417x9 4-4-4-12 1:1.
When oh when are we going to get a bios that will allow you to do that with Geil ram. :(
ppcli
10-16-2006, 03:34 PM
is this mobo picky with dvdr burners, tryed 3 differnet ones .i put in a blank dvdr and it just locks the system.at stock speeds or over clocked.tryed the 1305s and the 1407 same thing.new cable ,new burner. is there a fix?
cheers
virtualrain
10-16-2006, 03:46 PM
I have the P5W-DH and can boot with manual ram timings up to 390 fsb
(high as my proc will boot) @ stock timings of 4-5-4-15
Ram in sig
Tallman, I'm overclocking a friends rig this weekend... he has exactly the same setup MB/RAM (OCZ EL 2X1 gig PC2 8000 Platinum XTC Extreme Edition 4-5-4-15 ) except with an E6600.
What Bios are you using? can you please provide your full RAM Bios settings? At 390 FSB are you running 1:1 (DDR 780) or are you able to run at 4:5 divider (DDR 975)?
Anything else you learned RE: the BIOS that I might need to know?
Thanks!
roope
10-16-2006, 10:56 PM
I can set manual timings regardless of FSB - same ram, latest bios(1407) Currently at 417x9 4-4-4-12 1:1.
That's weird. I don't really understand why it doesn't work with my Corsairs. Maybe there is some differences between CL5 and CL4 sticks, but why can I go manual with older BIOS then? It's bit odd that board doesn't even boot back to BIOS without clearing CMOS.
liquoredonlife
10-17-2006, 03:18 AM
P5W-DH: Bios 1301 (1.02g)
E6600 @ stock (was fine at 3ghz)
Ram: 2x1gb Super Talent 4-4-3-8 ddr2-800
dvd: nec 4570A
ps: ocz gamestream 700w
hsf: tt big typhoon
nb/sb: put AS5 prior to first post
My two sata seagate 320gig 7200.10's don't come til tomorrow, so I tried booting the system with an old IDE IBM 10 gig drive. Set the IBM as primary (master) and NEC as primary (slave) on the blue IDE connector to the side. When I boot up with a WinXP CD to install, the drive spins up, it shows "setup is inspecting your hardware configuration", then it disappears, and it's a black screen for the next 5 minutes.
Then, without warning it seems to come back alive and resume what it's doing- the blue DOS screen where it's searching for components and asks you to set partitions and copy files over.
I'm really hoping this all just works with the sata seagates tomorrow but for some reason I'm just not feeling very confident in it. I'm not very familiar with the AMI bios, and can't even find where to tweak memory timings. It says "C1E" is required to do certain things but I can't find out how to enable C1E or whatever.:confused:
mikepaul
10-17-2006, 09:48 AM
With 1407 BIOS I couldn't use manual timings to RAM. System booted up normaly if I had SPD enabled but with manual timings it didn't even POST and I had to clear CMOS everytime just to get back to BIOS!? And this was with stock 266 FSB.
Now I'm back using good ol' 1305 and everything works like charm. No problems setting manually spec'd 5-5-5-12 for my Corsair XMS2's. Anyone else got the same problem with new BIOS?Well, I never figured out WHY my machine didn't POST at all with 1407. I have lots of practice now at resetting the CMOS. One ASUS phone-support tech told me that since 1407 didn't fix any specific problem I actually had, I should just flash back to 1305 which worked and be happy and never flash again until I have a need that they've fixed.
I do run my Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4 manually at 4-4-4-12, but never got around to resetting everying to stock just to convince 1407 to boot.
I guess I'll tell ASUS that maybe that's the problem, if they ever respond to my email asking for more than a brush-off when their latest BIOS doesn't work...
dolane
10-17-2006, 11:03 AM
is someone using 1501 bios ???
is it giving better performance or higher fsb ???
Cornel
10-17-2006, 12:21 PM
How do i flash with an older bios?
I've bootet up my usb pen drive, and are ready to flash, but no go!
it says:
The bios is too old. I'm trying the 701 bios.
Edit:
Okey, worked with 1305 bios, maybe it was to old?
lawrywild
10-17-2006, 12:25 PM
is someone using 1501 bios ???
is it giving better performance or higher fsb ???
yes,no
iamjcl
10-17-2006, 01:18 PM
is someone using 1501 bios ???
is it giving better performance or higher fsb ???
What got changed, and do you have a link ?
Thanks
dolane
10-17-2006, 01:45 PM
What got changed, and do you have a link ?
Thanks
a link ??? :slapass:
what are you asking to me man ??????
here it is :p:
http://www.membres.lycos.fr/boblemagnifique36/P5W-DH-1501.rar
thank to french guy ... boble you're great
xpsentity
10-17-2006, 01:52 PM
is this mobo picky with dvdr burners, tryed 3 differnet ones .i put in a blank dvdr and it just locks the system.at stock speeds or over clocked.tryed the 1305s and the 1407 same thing.new cable ,new burner. is there a fix?
cheers
Set the drives to [CDROM] in Bios instead of [AUTO] or whatever it's default at.
coredump
10-17-2006, 02:02 PM
a link ??? :slapass:
what are you asking to me man ??????
here it is :p:
http://www.membres.lycos.fr/boblemagnifique36/P5W-DH-1501.rar
thank to french guy ... boble you're great
404 :(
Plaicd
10-17-2006, 03:10 PM
404 :(
Works for me by just right clicking on the link and choosing save target as.
coredump
10-17-2006, 03:15 PM
Works for me by just right clicking on the link and choosing save target as.
That did the trick, thanks!
coredump
10-17-2006, 03:29 PM
That did the trick, thanks!
Well actually, it didn't.
+mhentges@mhcln03:~/download >file P5W-DH-1501.rar
P5W-DH-1501.rar: HTML document text
Could you upload your copy somewhere?
EDIT: Never mind, got it at last. This is one annoying host :\
lawrywild
10-17-2006, 04:05 PM
I hope boble gave you permission to post it here..
lawrywild
10-17-2006, 04:07 PM
oh yeh.. it's a crap bios anyway btw
Tallman
10-17-2006, 04:15 PM
Tallman, I'm overclocking a friends rig this weekend... he has exactly the same setup MB/RAM (OCZ EL 2X1 gig PC2 8000 Platinum XTC Extreme Edition 4-5-4-15 ) except with an E6600.
What Bios are you using? can you please provide your full RAM Bios settings? At 390 FSB are you running 1:1 (DDR 780) or are you able to run at 4:5 divider (DDR 975)?
Anything else you learned RE: the BIOS that I might need to know?
Thanks!
I am using bios 1402
On P5W-DH Dlx you must remember that the order of ram timings in bios is not the norm from what I've seen. bios order should be 4-4-5-15, this gives an order of 4-5-4-15 in cpu-z
I play with the settings all the time trying different things. Currently:
CPU : E6700 Retail box week 23
DDR2 : OCZ2P10002GEEK EL Platinum (DDR2 1000)
Bios : 1402
VGA : BFG 7600GT OC
HDD : 2*WD2500KS RAID o
PSU : OCZ600GXSSLI 600W
OS : XP Pro SP2
OVERCLOCK (MHz) = 3.75 Ghz
BIOS SETTINGS
JumperFree Configuration
AI Overclocking set to MANUAL
CPU Frequency : 375
DRAMM Frequency : 940@ 4-4-4-12 (4:5 divider)
Performance Mode : Turbo
PCI Express Frequency : 105
PCI Clock Sync Mode :
Memory Voltage : 2.2v (default)
CPU Vcore Voltage : 1.55v
FSB Termination V : Auto
MCH Chipset V : 1.65v
ICH Chipset V : Auto
--------------------------------------------------------
CPU Configuration
Microcode Update : enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : enable
Execute Disable Function : disable
CPU Internal Thermal Control : enable
Virtualization Technology : disable
Intel SpeedStep Technology : disable
--------------------------------------------------------
Advanced Chipset Settings (DDR2)
Configure DRAM Timing : Set to MANUAL
DRAM CAS Latency : 4
DRAM RAS Precharge : 4
DRAM RAS To CAS Delay : 4
DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge Delay : 12
DRAM Write Recovery Time : 20
DRAM ECC MODE: disable
Hyper Path 3 : disable
DRAM Throttling : disable
I can boot at 390 fsb with 4:5 divider ram at 976 see here
(http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=130842)
I have had ram up to 1101 Mhz see here
(http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=130084)
Sweet spot seems to be around 1030 to 1050 for being stable in SuperPi 32M
http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/9421/bandwidth1036nf4.jpg
revenant
10-17-2006, 04:17 PM
LOL - I'm scared to jump from 1305 to any of these other bioses.. my machine is just running so nice now.. I guess there's no real need to then... until one comes out which everyone says is magic, works wonders, doesn't kill USB ports, adds 100mhz to your max OC, etc.. etc.. ;)
syne_24
10-17-2006, 04:21 PM
bah i'm back to 1305. I quit trying to mess with it and just enjoy it now. Besides conroes are getting boring for me, bring on Kentsfield or Wolfdale..
virtualrain
10-17-2006, 04:32 PM
I am using bios 1402
On P5W-DH Dlx you must remember that the order of ram timings in bios is not the norm from what I've seen. bios order should be 4-4-5-15, this gives an order of 4-5-4-15 in cpu-z
I play with the settings all the time trying different things. Currently:
Snip...
I can boot at 390 fsb with 4:5 divider ram at 976 see here
Thanks Tallman. This should be very helpful. Why do you not run at 390 FSB 24/7... not stable?
To any and all... What is "Turbo" mode?
lawrywild
10-17-2006, 04:56 PM
bah i'm back to 1305. I quit trying to mess with it and just enjoy it now. Besides conroes are getting boring for me, bring on Kentsfield or Wolfdale..
LOL, sounds just like my thoughts too
this asus seems to just get more and more unstable, 3.2ghz was fine a few weeks ago, now 356fsb freezes like it used to at over 360 a few weeks back (manual timings).
Tallman
10-17-2006, 05:15 PM
Thanks Tallman. This should be very helpful. Why do you not run at 390 FSB 24/7... not stable?
Heh, 390 fsb requires too much vcore. I idle at 53 c with 1.65v.
I am not sure it requires ALL that vcore but that is what I tried it at for booting to 4 Gig which was a nogo, (4 Gig required 1.7), so I booted at 390 and clockgened up to 4 gig for my cpu-z shot
X6800GX2
10-17-2006, 09:01 PM
anyone here can explain to me actually how to install vista on my computer? here is my pc spec
Intel Core 2 extreme x6800
Motherboard Asus P5W DH
GC Xfx geforce 7950 gx2
pioneer a11XB
ram mushkin ddr2 800 1024mb
thanx ;)
mikepaul
10-18-2006, 06:31 AM
this asus seems to just get more and more unstable, 3.2ghz was fine a few weeks ago, now 356fsb freezes like it used to at over 360 a few weeks back (manual timings).I was doing OK until last night. I'd found decent setting to get my E6300 to 2.87Ghz with fast RAM. Even had Vcore at AUTO with no issues.
Then after proving that the 1407 BIOS was failing due to manual RAM settings on my Corsair 6400C4 by booting 1407 successfully with SPD back on, I had flashed back to 1305, reset the options as I wanted, and began having lockups. Darn machine wouldn't even just SIT there running all night, let alone the stress it had gotten for 11 hours a few days ago.
So I'll go through the settings again, but maybe just once and for all...
davexl
10-18-2006, 06:57 AM
I was doing OK until last night. I'd found decent setting to get my E6300 to 2.87Ghz with fast RAM. Even had Vcore at AUTO with no issues.
Then after proving that the 1407 BIOS was failing due to manual RAM settings on my Corsair 6400C4 by booting 1407 successfully with SPD back on, I had flashed back to 1305, reset the options as I wanted, and began having lockups. Darn machine wouldn't even just SIT there running all night, let alone the stress it had gotten for 11 hours a few days ago.
So I'll go through the settings again, but maybe just once and for all...
Funny you should say that - after getting 8hrs Orthos stable at 3700 in 1407 I tried one notch less vcore and bang - everything would freeze, even the settings that passed overnight would suddenly not post. I reverted to 1305 and did a CMOS jumper reset, but still can't post at 3700. However I can go back to 3600 and set FSB up to 3700 in systool (clockgen freezes for some reason) and have been priming at 2700 for an hour...
wtf?
BulldogPO
10-18-2006, 07:35 AM
When Asus is going to release new bios? 1305 was stablest of all, at least for me.
Sparx
10-18-2006, 07:43 AM
Funny you should say that - after getting 8hrs Orthos stable at 3700 in 1407 I tried one notch less vcore and bang - everything would freeze, even the settings that passed overnight would suddenly not post. I reverted to 1305 and did a CMOS jumper reset, but still can't post at 3700. However I can go back to 3600 and set FSB up to 3700 in systool (clockgen freezes for some reason) and have been priming at 2700 for an hour...
wtf?
I have had overclocks do this back in the NF7-s days. It just happens. Did you work back up slowly to 3700?
sparx
davexl
10-18-2006, 08:15 AM
I have had overclocks do this back in the NF7-s days. It just happens. Did you work back up slowly to 3700?
sparx
No, if I boot at 3600 can set FSB in systool in one jump, if that is what you mean. (still doing an orthos run now)
I tried several options and 3640, 3666 and 3700 all failed to post - and the recovery takes a few reboots to clear its head - nasty behavior I havent seen before. Usually you can reset fine and the P5W will post safely.
What was bugging me was posting at 3600, setting bios to the higher figures mentioned above, but the reboot after saving the new settings would not fully shut the board down - disks still spooled up - and then of course hang at post.
lawrywild
10-18-2006, 09:30 AM
I'm running stock lol
If performance in CS is satisfactory at stock, then I'm just gonna stay here and be happy lol..
coredump
10-18-2006, 10:18 AM
Thanks to Kgb (http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=256507&page=340), BIOS 1502 is available (http://hentges.net/tmp/BIOS/asus-p5w-dh-deluxe/)
Hitting the wall at 360 her.More voltage doesn`t help.Setting spd or 5.5.5.15 doesn`t help.I am using 1407 bios it sucks big time.1305 is better?
virtualrain
10-18-2006, 03:37 PM
Heh, 390 fsb requires too much vcore. I idle at 53 c with 1.65v.
I am not sure it requires ALL that vcore but that is what I tried it at for booting to 4 Gig which was a nogo, (4 Gig required 1.7), so I booted at 390 and clockgened up to 4 gig for my cpu-z shot
Hey thanks again Tallman! What are your thoughts on the BIOS... why 1402? Just luck or some reasoning behind that choice? Also, what are your temps like running 1.55V at load? How much vdroop do you get with 1.55V?
lawrywild
10-18-2006, 04:18 PM
anyone tried 1502?
GLENBOY
10-18-2006, 04:45 PM
yes no real difference to 1403 upwards , only main difference for me if you go into hardware monitor it does not just sit there for ages till anything happens , not any better or worse than any previous ones, but seems stable enough
NO1B4ME
10-18-2006, 04:47 PM
anyone tried 1502?
Try it and let us know :) .
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