ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

[Yolanda]

No, you can use 3 SATA hard drives with ICH7R without any issues, also you can use SATA DVD on JMicron. Simply native channels from ICH7R better supported by different OSs such as Linux, MacOS X, old and beta Windows versions, different live bootup CD/DVDs, bootup floppy disks and any standalone backup, partitioning and other programs working without OS. In this cases you have more chanches to access your DVD and 2 SATA hard drives. However really it is not a big chache not to access your DVD from JMicron, this controller is also widelly supported.

The only suggestion to stay away from EZ-backup while you have free other SATAs on board, EZ-backup connected through Silicon Image SATA controller to SATA4 port of ICH7R, resulting some reduced performance (not recommended for a system drive) and some problems with software I wrote above, but specially with diagnostic software.

[tomcug]

Yolanda, looks like a real boost in noticeable with timings at 4-4-4-12 compared to 5-6-6-18, Everest memory benchmark score increases to 9700 MB/s compared to 9300 MB/s. Super PI also likes tight timings very much, score is much better, but I don't remember exact numbers now. However, overclocking memories to 1000MHz with 4-4-4-12 timings doesn't give much higher performance, difference is really small. With P5W DH we really need very good memories to be able to use manual timings with high FSB speeds. My memories managed to pass MemTest even at 425MHz and with manual timings (2,2V). I didn't try more because my E7200 held me back. However I'm pretty sure that with good amount of volts, maybe 2,4V, it would work at 450MHz too but I'm not sure at all. It's good to see that your GTX 295 works good, and with my HD 4770 CCC shows PCI-E 2.0 too :).

[marwin99]

No, you can use 3 SATA hard drives with ICH7R without any issues, also you can use SATA DVD on JMicron. Simply native channels from ICH7R better supported by different OSs such as Linux, MacOS X, old and beta Windows versions, different live bootup CD/DVDs, bootup floppy disks and any standalone backup, partitioning and other programs working without OS. In this cases you have more chanches to access your DVD and 2 SATA hard drives. However really it is not a big chache not to access your DVD from JMicron, this controller is also widelly supported.

The only suggestion to stay away from EZ-backup while you have free other SATAs on board, EZ-backup connected through Silicon Image SATA controller to SATA4 port of ICH7R, resulting some reduced performance (not recommended for a system drive) and some problems with software I wrote above, but specially with diagnostic software.

Thanks for the inputs! Will try the JMicron then and maybe check some preformance data compared to ICH7R.

[WeldZilla]

Hey tomcug, I found that the P5W DH likes to run mem at 1:1 and gets better performance doing so. At 425 fsb 1:1 with your mem you might be able to run at 3-3-3-5.
If you can you will get some nice results from your system. I have noticed on every other board that 1:1 is slower but not that board. Try it and see how it works for you.
Hey it don't count without proof..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/cpuzfun.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/pi32m.jpg

My Daily clock was 425 fsb @ 3825mhz and my mem was run 1:1 @ 425 timings 3-3-3-5.

So experiment even if you have to run @ say 3-4-3-5 or 3-3-4-4 or 3-4-4-4 or 5

WZ

[tomcug]

Looks like this is a good idea :D. I'll try this tomorrow and write what happens.

[micmachack]

Ok, I know this issue has been raised MANY many times but I'm still having an issue adjusting the vcore on my mobo. Its a revision 1.02G and my CPU is an E4500 (65nm). On the stock vcore and overclocked a little this baby is still running really cool, so I would like to pump some more vcore in, and even buy a better cooler if I can get this CPU any higher

So far I have tried:

- flashing the BIOS all the way back to the first one that supports my CPU: 2206

- flashing the BIOS from freeDOS using afudos and the /pbnc /n tags. Cleared CMOS as motherboard described then booted the computer. Disabled C1E, SpeedStep, Fan control crap then rebooted, again and again and again. Went into JumperFree and Vcore still says AUTO!!!! YARGH

- I was on BIOS 2801 but it had exact same issues as 2901

I have never been able to adjust vcore :(

[tomcug]

Looks like you're another user with this error :(. The bad news is that so far we haven't been able to find out how to fix it :(. Sorry, no good news for now, let's see what the other users will write :(.

[IvanAndreevich]

I am having a retarded issue with this mobo. Something that I've never seen before. I tried: a different PSU, a different graphics card, different RAM. I even RMA'd the mobo because I thought that must be it, and the one I got back is behaving EXACTLY the same.

I start Prime and it runs OK for a while. Then, at some point the system hard restarts (as if reset has been pressed) and freezes during post. The exact operation it freezes on is "Initializing USB controllers". It doesn't matter if there are no USB devices attached at all, it just freezes there during post. Even resetting CMOS doesn't help reliably.

Sometimes it will post again (not easy), and then repeat until next time. This is the most annoying problem I have ever encountered.

[tomcug]

I've just started experimenting with timings, so far I've managed to boot with 3-4-4-12 timings, will try more later. Good news is that with this settings I've got 10000 MB/s in Everest :D. So another huge boost over SPD timings.

EDIT

I've just tried 3-3-4-12 timings, seems to be stable and performance is much higher again :).

[WeldZilla]

Alright!! See there is hidden power in there for you all to find and dig out!! Nice job tomcug, you may yet finsd a little more and if not at least you passed the 10000 barrier in Everest.

WZ

[Chrysalis]

guys will 2004 bios with windows 7?

I am thinking of rolling back my bios since it seems every other bios version has some sort of bug like the current intel speedstep not working bug in latest bios.

I have to agree with other posters I have never had such a buggy board, one thing I dont understand is that with every other bios flasher I have used there is an option to clear the cmos when you flash so after flash it is all reset. With this board you flash and are expected to manually clear the cmos after, a very unusual flash procedure.

[Chrysalis]

No, you can use 3 SATA hard drives with ICH7R without any issues, also you can use SATA DVD on JMicron. Simply native channels from ICH7R better supported by different OSs such as Linux, MacOS X, old and beta Windows versions, different live bootup CD/DVDs, bootup floppy disks and any standalone backup, partitioning and other programs working without OS. In this cases you have more chanches to access your DVD and 2 SATA hard drives. However really it is not a big chache not to access your DVD from JMicron, this controller is also widelly supported.

The only suggestion to stay away from EZ-backup while you have free other SATAs on board, EZ-backup connected through Silicon Image SATA controller to SATA4 port of ICH7R, resulting some reduced performance (not recommended for a system drive) and some problems with software I wrote above, but specially with diagnostic software.

I did the trick (which I got earlier in this thread) which disabled the silicon image and makes the 4th port effectively act as a normal 4th port for ICH7, does this still suffer the performance hit?

to do this I removed a jumper on the board somewhere.

[Chrysalis]

I am 3-4 mobos past my P5W which was relegated as a standby mobo for over a year. But I got around to sending in my 1.02G board today to the local service centre cos it was getting errratic just trying to get it to POST. Hope Asus Taiwan gets their hands on it in the near future, somehow.

Got a brand new P5B Premium V.E set as replacement and I promptly installed Win 7RC for a spin, posting with it now. Guess it's game over for my P5W DH Dlx experience, wishing you guys still hanging on to their P5W all the best. :D

3-4 boards wow, how often do you buy new boards then?

I am still on mine (I brought when ich8 was already out tho I didnt buy it in in 2006) and using my 6420 dual core.

I am guessing since I have no real need to upgrade my cpu as it is rarely stressed and all games run fine on my pc that I play I cannot justify a new board, to me buying a new board for the sake of fixing annoyances and the work involved in moving the cpu, cleaning the old thermal, reapplying new thermal etc. is too much for my lazy self. I also have noticed barely any software takes advantage of dual core and I expect even less would take advantage of quad core, multi core seems most beneficial for server type usage. I am still using windows xp on this pc tho, and I do know vista (and I guess win7) is way snappier on a dual core system so the XP code base is probably not optimised with multi core in mind.

My friend got a smaller core 8400cpu chip which is rated very highly by people, I did consider it but the 45nm issues on this board and the fact I could barely justify it by the fact I am not even stressing out my current chip I didnt go ahead with it, I certianly couldnt justify spending on new board and cpu. These core2duos were so overpowered on launch they still do the job today.

[mikepaul]

With me, upgrading at the motherboard level takes time. The way things are going in The Economy, I'll have to skip getting a new i7 PC for a year or two, making the purchase of a new motherboard that can use a Q9450 my next 'big' upgrade.

Anyone know of a 775 MB that has like 9 non-RAID SATA ports and is ACTUALLY 45nm-compatible?...

[IvanAndreevich]

I am having a retarded issue with this mobo. Something that I've never seen before. I tried: a different PSU, a different graphics card, different RAM. I even RMA'd the mobo because I thought that must be it, and the one I got back is behaving EXACTLY the same.

I start Prime and it runs OK for a while. Then, at some point the system hard restarts (as if reset has been pressed) and freezes during post. The exact operation it freezes on is "Initializing USB controllers". It doesn't matter if there are no USB devices attached at all, it just freezes there during post. Even resetting CMOS doesn't help reliably.

Sometimes it will post again (not easy), and then repeat until next time. This is the most annoying problem I have ever encountered.

Oh well it turns out the techs at ASUS just reset the bios of my screwed up board and shipped it back to me when I RMA'd it after having the same damn problem. Talked to level 2 support today on the phone and the board is going back for a non-ignorant service. So the above is almost certainly a hardware fault of some sort.

[slaman]

I'm hoping the gurus on this forum will be able to help me:

I have two drives installed in a RAID1 array on the EZ-Backup ports...

- How do I find S.M.A.R.T. information for these drives? All utilities, including the Western Digital Diagnostic Tool, which is required for RMA, does not read this data.

- How do I determine which drive has failed in the RAID1 array?

Essentially, how will I know if one drive is on its last legs, how will I know when the RAID fails, and how will I know which of the two drives actually failed?

I posted my question a while back on the Asus website and didn't get any good responses:

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&id=20090122031054534&board_id=1&model=P5W%20DH%20Deluxe&page=1&count=17

[pc1x1]

Oh well it turns out the techs at ASUS just reset the bios of my screwed up board and shipped it back to me when I RMA'd it after having the same damn problem. Talked to level 2 support today on the phone and the board is going back for a non-ignorant service. So the above is almost certainly a hardware fault of some sort.

:eek: :mad: :shakes:

I haven't booted the board yet, mine is 1.02g, wish me luck :), going to boot it tomorrow or the day after. Have a 9550 45nm, so just waiting for the problems, if I hit 2.8 ghz and no problems, Ill be a happy camper, thats 350 fsb.

[slaman]

I'm hoping the gurus on this forum will be able to help me:

I have two drives installed in a RAID1 array on the EZ-Backup ports...

- How do I find S.M.A.R.T. information for these drives? All utilities, including the Western Digital Diagnostic Tool, which is required for RMA, does not read this data.

- How do I determine which drive has failed in the RAID1 array?

Essentially, how will I know if one drive is on its last legs, how will I know when the RAID fails, and how will I know which of the two drives actually failed?

I posted my question a while back on the Asus website and didn't get any good responses:

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&id=20090122031054534&board_id=1&model=P5W%20DH%20Deluxe&page=1&count=17

Found the response myself. Installed Silicon Image's SteelVine Manager application... nothing in any documentation that I've read indicates that this is an essential application to monitor the RAID array's status...

See the above thread for the response.

[dabl]

:eek: :mad: :shakes:

I haven't booted the board yet, mine is 1.02g, wish me luck :), going to boot it tomorrow or the day after. Have a 9550 45nm, so just waiting for the problems, if I hit 2.8 ghz and no problems, Ill be a happy camper, thats 350 fsb.

I'm very interested to hear how you do with this chip on the p5w dh and the 2901 bios, particularly with any 64 bit windows installs.

I have the same cpu related questions that you asked in this previous post

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3865789&postcount=8233

Thanks for the link in that post to the related thread at social.technet.microsoft.com, very interesting and eye opening. I had gotten the impression from the below Asus blurb that other than the limitations a
Q9550 would work fine. I sure haven't seen many success stories in these threads so far, but from what I can tell one guy with a Q9650 and one guy with a Q8600 report success with Win 7 RC 64 on a p5w dh.

Support information for 45nm CPU (from FAQ)
http://support.asus.com/faq/faq.aspx?SLanguage=en-us
...
I’ve recently bought a Intel 45nm Yorkfield CPU Q9650. When I put it onto my P5W DH deluxe, everything is perfect, but L2 cache size shows 0 KB in BIOS. When I check it in CPU-Z, the problem persists. How do I re-solve it?

Due to chipset limitation, i975X chipset is not able to support all the features of 45nm CPU. The following is a list of the limitations:
1. VT function does not work.
2. The maximum FSB is capped at 1066MHz.
3. 0.5 CPU multiplier is not supported.
4. L2 cache size is not recognized correctly. However L2 cache is still functioning.
...

I'm currently running an E6600 at stock speed with bios 2801, Win 7 RC 32 bit and Vista 32 bit.

I'm interested in a quad core chip like the Q9550 or Q8400 for eventual use with 64 bit Win 7 (will start with Win 7 32 bit) but it sounds like I might be better off buying a new motherboard?

[Yolanda]

At stock clock you willn't get any errors, flash latest bios 2901, board will be as the fastest boards with S775 socket, and even can overclock it by 5-10%.
However do you really need a quad core cpu? if you haven't such programs better to stay with your E6600 and overclock it to ~3.3GHz.

[Supa Chiney]

Hello, recently i've started having trouble with booting my mobo, the thing is when I first turn it on it doesn't POST what i've found out to work is turn it on and then on back again and usually it POST but sometimes it doesn't, when it doesn't I switch off the PSU and make it rest for like 10 mins or so and the turn it on again and it will boot.... :S any ideas??

My specs

CPU: Intel Core 2 QUAD Q6600 @ 3 GHz, 333x9, 1.25V
MOBO: Asus P5W DH Deluxe, BIOS 2801
RAM: 4x2GB DDR2 800MHz 5-5-5-18 @ 667 MHz, 1.8V
GPU: XFX Geforce 9800 GT
PSU: OCZ GameXStream OCZ600GXSSLI ATX12V 600W Power Supply 10

[Falkentyne]

L2 cache is detected on my QX9650 on bioses 2506 and newer (2406 and 2302, the earliest that supported QX, showed 0k, BUT Sandra, CPU-Z and Everest showed the proper cache (and the cache/memory speed test functioned as it should).

If you're getting 0k in 2801 with the Q9550, you should still at least get the proper size in CPU-Z. If you're getting 0k in cpu-z too, can you run an everest memory benchmark and look at the speeds of the L1 and L2 cache?

[Falkentyne]

Hello, recently i've started having trouble with booting my mobo, the thing is when I first turn it on it doesn't POST what i've found out to work is turn it on and then on back again and usually it POST but sometimes it doesn't, when it doesn't I switch off the PSU and make it rest for like 10 mins or so and the turn it on again and it will boot.... :S any ideas??

My specs

CPU: Intel Core 2 QUAD Q6600 @ 3 GHz, 333x9, 1.25V
MOBO: Asus P5W DH Deluxe, BIOS 2801
RAM: 4x2GB DDR2 800MHz 5-5-5-18 @ 667 MHz, 1.8V
GPU: XFX Geforce 9800 GT
PSU: OCZ GameXStream OCZ600GXSSLI ATX12V 600W Power Supply 10

Remove one stick of memory and see if the problem goes away. Or switch the remaining stick. Memory that is dying (like micron D9's) will cause this to happen.

Raise the memory voltage to 2.1v .....does the problem go away then?

[Supa Chiney]

Remove one stick of memory and see if the problem goes away. Or switch the remaining stick. Memory that is dying (like micron D9's) will cause this to happen.

Raise the memory voltage to 2.1v .....does the problem go away then?


this sticks are brand new, i did that when i first installed them, i forgot to mention that this problem started when i added a pair of the same type i had before (on my sig) but those were different version, so i though that was the problem, that's why i bought the new ram.

I cold booted twice this morning without issues will, report back in a couple days or later if problem stops/continues

is it safe to run them at 2.1v even if they are rated to run at 1.8v ?

[Yolanda]

2.1V is save even for 24/7, but you only want to test it.

[firestarter.pt]

I want to upgrade from 2 Gb to 4 Gb with this board.

What memory kit would you recommend me considering i'm using an E8600 @ 4.1 Ghz 24/7 (10x 410 fsb - DDR820)?

[Yolanda]

Any two PC2-6400 2GB cheap modules, there are a lot of from Samsung, Hynix, Patriot and others, you will get 5/6-6-6-18 timings by Auto setting.

[firestarter.pt]

I found a good deal for 2x 2048Mb DDR2 Corsair XMS2 Dominator PC2-8500 (1066) (40€), i'll post the results later when I have time to test them. I still have hope I will be able to beat 410 fsb and/or at least use 5-5-5-15 timings :P

[G40RoCkEt]

NEWS ABOUT WINDOWS 7 x64 Release!


Just to tell that with bios 2901 the BSDO bug at the begining of W7 X64 installation was solved!

So, finally can install with sucess my W7 X64 release.

About drivers all is avaliable to install via Windows Update and works very well!

People that want install W7 X64 , FIRST UPDATE BIOS TO 2901.

Seems that 2901 fix the w7 x64 bug too.

Good races!

[PaVi90]

The support by Asus to this motherboard is wonderful... after years still new BIOSes! Great!

[mikepaul]

Ummm, 1.02G users are probably not applauding BIOS support very loudly...

[pc1x1]

Hiya, I haven't booted yet, and thanks, it took alot of digging, hehe.

I will be booting my PC this weekend, sleeving took ages to do! And Ill flash to the latest bios and well figure out if I can run the Quad Core.

I am on a 1.02g, so this should be interesting :), also will try to Install Windows 7 RC1.


I'm very interested to hear how you do with this chip on the p5w dh and the 2901 bios, particularly with any 64 bit windows installs.

I have the same cpu related questions that you asked in this previous post

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3865789&postcount=8233

Thanks for the link in that post to the related thread at social.technet.microsoft.com, very interesting and eye opening. I had gotten the impression from the below Asus blurb that other than the limitations a
Q9550 would work fine. I sure haven't seen many success stories in these threads so far, but from what I can tell one guy with a Q9650 and one guy with a Q8600 report success with Win 7 RC 64 on a p5w dh.

Support information for 45nm CPU (from FAQ)
http://support.asus.com/faq/faq.aspx?SLanguage=en-us
...
I’ve recently bought a Intel 45nm Yorkfield CPU Q9650. When I put it onto my P5W DH deluxe, everything is perfect, but L2 cache size shows 0 KB in BIOS. When I check it in CPU-Z, the problem persists. How do I re-solve it?

Due to chipset limitation, i975X chipset is not able to support all the features of 45nm CPU. The following is a list of the limitations:
1. VT function does not work.
2. The maximum FSB is capped at 1066MHz.
3. 0.5 CPU multiplier is not supported.
4. L2 cache size is not recognized correctly. However L2 cache is still functioning.
...

I'm currently running an E6600 at stock speed with bios 2801, Win 7 RC 32 bit and Vista 32 bit.

I'm interested in a quad core chip like the Q9550 or Q8400 for eventual use with 64 bit Win 7 (will start with Win 7 32 bit) but it sounds like I might be better off buying a new motherboard?

[GAR]

wow people still use this board, i remember this was one of the best boards for its time!

[G40RoCkEt]

wow people still use this board, i remember this was one of the best boards for its time!

GAR,

I always update the hardware but the P5W DH always be in safe. :D

For me was the best 2006 motherboard and i still love it.

Great extra bundle and amazing support including 45nm processor!

Here in this P5W already pass E6600-E6850-E8500 and finally E8600 (with a little oc).

And i have to say that with Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bits this rock more!

Everyone should be try this SO in P5W.

:up:

[ntvh]

Yes this board is ROCK. will try for Win 7 after come back from camping.

[u-ultima]

Hello, recently i've started having trouble with booting my mobo, the thing is when I first turn it on it doesn't POST what i've found out to work is turn it on and then on back again and usually it POST but sometimes it doesn't, when it doesn't I switch off the PSU and make it rest for like 10 mins or so and the turn it on again and it will boot.... :S any ideas??

My specs

CPU: Intel Core 2 QUAD Q6600 @ 3 GHz, 333x9, 1.25V
MOBO: Asus P5W DH Deluxe, BIOS 2801
RAM: 4x2GB DDR2 800MHz 5-5-5-18 @ 667 MHz, 1.8V
GPU: XFX Geforce 9800 GT
PSU: OCZ GameXStream OCZ600GXSSLI ATX12V 600W Power Supply 10

the same thing started happening to me too..i get stuck too when i m in the bios setup,i m still looking for a solution.

[Aerics]

Good morning together.

I tryed so many times to overclock my cpu, but i can only reach 3,15GHz.

I tryed everything i know, but if i overclock over 3,2GHz i need much more vcore. I get it only on 1.55 vcore stable. Everything above nothing happens if i change the vcore or mchv, i get only errors.

I use water to cooling my computer and the normal ram frequenze is 800MHz.

Maybe i have some misstakes in my bios confige or my cpu really sucks.
I Hope someone can help me and find my misstake.
And sorry for my bad english :)

http://realityworld.de/overclocking/cpuz_cpu.jpghttp://realityworld.de/overclocking/cpuz_mainboard.jpghttp://realityworld.de/overclocking/cpuz_spd.jpg
http://realityworld.de/overclocking/bios_01.jpghttp://realityworld.de/overclocking/bios_02.jpg
http://realityworld.de/overclocking/bios_03.jpg

[dabl]

Are people using the current Vista versions of these 975X Express utilities with Win 7?

http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/sb/CS-021728.htm

Intel Chipset Software Installation Utility
Intel Matrix Storage Manager

Any idea if upcoming Win 7 versions can be expected?

[Yolanda]

These programs are for Windows XP and higher, so work fine in Vista and Windows 7 also.
Download latest versions from Intel site, you can choose newest Intel chipset, all versions are the same and for all chipsets.

However you can not to install Intel Chipset Software Installation Utility in Vista and Windows 7, because it's simply rename chipset devices in Device Manager to their real names, Windows 7 already know all i975 chipset component names.

[SS_The_Demon]

I have a small problem here with this board. Hope someone can help.
Getting 333FSB is no problem at all, but 350 and upwards is a major problem, but only during booting. I have on some occasions reached 400FSB, and as soon as I reach Windows, it's perfectly stable. But the problem is to get it to boot at any higher than 333:(
Too bad, cause I know the CPU will do 3.6GHz on 1.3V Vcore (1.3 selected in BIOS, not measured 1.3V, maybe even less than that. So, any suggestions on what to try?

[G40RoCkEt]

Are people using the current Vista versions of these 975X Express utilities with Win 7?

http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/sb/CS-021728.htm

Intel Chipset Software Installation Utility
Intel Matrix Storage Manager

Any idea if upcoming Win 7 versions can be expected?

Chipset 975x have w7 drivers avaliable yet.

Check here if someone look for them:

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Product_Filter.aspx?ProductID=2261&lang=eng

[dabl]

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Product_Filter.aspx?ProductID=2261&lang=eng

Thanks, that's helpful.

[Falkentyne]

Getting the board to successfully turn on (POST?) or getting it to load windows without locking up or blue screening?

[SS_The_Demon]

Getting the board to successfully turn on (POST?) or getting it to load windows without locking up or blue screening?

Are you asking me or? But yes, getting the board to POST @ 350FSB or higher is a big no-no, I just get a black screen. Have to turn the comupter off using the power button, then turn on and get the "overclocking or overvoltage failed" message, and enter BIOS. MCHV at 1.65V and FSBTV at auto and 333x9 is my current 24/7 setting. BTW, what does the FSB Termination Voltage do? I haven't found any use for it as of yet.

Tried booting at 360FSB with 1.65V MCHV, it did POST but failed to load Windows. Trying 360FSB with 1.75 MCHV it doesn't even POST. I'm thinking that it's some kind of overvoltage protection, cause I read back in 2006 when the computer was new that you should disable any such protection. But that setting doesn't exist in the BIOS does it?

Sigh...Really could use a little higher FSB, CPU is limiting my GTX260 like hell...maybe I just should get a new board...but I don't want too, love this one too much except for the low FSB wall...

[Yolanda]

You have 3.6GHz 65 nm CPU stable at 1.3V only? Are you sure?

[Falkentyne]

Set the vmch to 1.65v and the FSB termination voltage to 1.40v.
Then try your 360 fsb.

And I don't think you're going to get 3600 mhz stable on a B2 stepping E6600 stable at 1.3v I think that's part of the problem. Isn't the DEFAULT voltage for that chip 1.35v? You're overclocking the chip and running it at lower than default voltage....

Try 1.45vcore and then see if you can post at above 360 FSB and load windows.

How did you get it *stable* at 400 FSB before? You said that you made it boot at 400 fsb and it was stable, if it managed to boot. How'd you do this?

I'm 100% certain it wasn't stable unless you're watercooling or on subzero....

[Aerics]

Nobody have a tip for me?

[Yolanda]

Aerics Try to set memory timings to SPD, our board likes it more and overclocks then higher.

[SS_The_Demon]

Set the vmch to 1.65v and the FSB termination voltage to 1.40v.
Then try your 360 fsb.

And I don't think you're going to get 3600 mhz stable on a B2 stepping E6600 stable at 1.3v I think that's part of the problem. Isn't the DEFAULT voltage for that chip 1.35v? You're overclocking the chip and running it at lower than default voltage....

Try 1.45vcore and then see if you can post at above 360 FSB and load windows.



Thanks, will try. Doubt it will work though. But yes, first time I overclocked my rig (which was the first time i overclocked BTW) I used 1.45V vcore, 1.45V selected in BIOS that is. This was end of November, 2006. Since I didn't want break anything, and I didn't get any noteworthy performance boost either, I used stock settings instead. For some reason I can't remember, several months later I decided to see if I could use a lower vcore, and I ended up selecting 1.3V in BIOS. Unfortunately, I don't have a screenshot of 1.3V vcore, but if I ever get it too boot again at 3.6 I will DEFINATELY take a screenshot:)
Here's the screen showing 1.45V vcore, ignore CPU-Z as it shows the wrong value. But AiBooster should display the right value, considering vdroop or whatever it's called.

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/5386/fsb400cpu36ghz.jpg (http://img196.imageshack.us/i/fsb400cpu36ghz.jpg/)

And here's another screen showing 3GHz @ 1.184V full load according to CPU-Z, 1.225V selected in BIOS. No vmods have been done to the board, only changed the thermal paste under the NB, so I guess the lower voltage indicated by CPU-Z is because of vdroop? Also, notice in Core Temp that my VID is 1.2625V, not 1.35V as you suggested.

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9488/3ghz1184v.jpg (http://img229.imageshack.us/i/3ghz1184v.jpg/)

However, worth noticing is that when I ran 3.6GHz, I had the window open in my room (Finland is cold), so I guess my room temp were somewhere around 5 degrees Celsius.


How did you get it *stable* at 400 FSB before? You said that you made it boot at 400 fsb and it was stable, if it managed to boot. How'd you do this?

I'm 100% certain it wasn't stable unless you're watercooling or on subzero....

Max voltage on MCH, FSB Termination and ICH (you shouldn't overvolt the ICH should you?). I wrote the settings down so I wouldn't forget them. Stability was tested using Orthos for several hours, can't recall exactly how long I ran it though, probably around 8 hours or so (Yeah I know, TAT puts a heavier load on the CPU, but as long as I can play any game without crashing or passing 65 degrees on the CPU I'm happy:)). But what happens 99% of the time I try to use the same settings as before is that I apply every setting as they should be in BIOS eg C1E, EIST, Hyperpath 3, Virtualization etc gets turned off, voltages changed and so on. But once I hit F10 and press enter the screen goes black just as it should, the LED on my screen turns orange as it should, but it doesn't turn green again.

After that I turn the computer off using the power button, turn it on again (not resetting CMOS or anything BTW), and then I get the oh so annoying message:

"overclocking or overvoltage failed"
press F1 to enter BIOS
press F2 to load default values an continue

Thing is, I remember reading somewhere that you should turn off any overvoltage protection. Can you even do this?

BTW, sorry for the long post, just trying to give you as much info as I can because I want more FSB on this thing. And I know it shouldn't be impossible because I have seen several people run the board @ 400FSB 24/7, some 440FSB and over as max, someone even hitting 500FSB+:eek:

EDIT: Tried your settings, with various vcore frequencies as well. Was about to try higher vmch and/or fsb termination voltage, but a strange thing happened. After one of those failed overclocks, I was at the point where you choose either F1 to enter BIOS or F2 to load default and continue, naturally I chose F1. So the screen goes black, as it should do for about a tenth of a second before the BIOS screen pops up. But then it stays black, so I'm thinking "hmm that's strange, never seen that happen before", so I turn off the computer, turn it on and then the REALLY WEIRD STUFF begins. The screen is really weird, I should have taken a picture but I was too lazy and too shocked, thinking I just destroyed the board. Anyway, the screen looked something like:

-________________________E6600_____________________ _____
__________________________________________________ ______
__________2.40GHz_________________________________ ______
__________________________________________________ ______
___________________________________LKJASHD4346____ ______
____KLJF0987______________________________________ ______

and so on. At this point I didn't like it at all, and it only got worse. Turned the computer off again, turned it on and what do you know? Same thing, only this time the screen seemed to scroll down, and some of the letters and numbers on the screen (the few that appeared) seemed to match my harddrives. After hitting F1 the top bar turns blue, but the rest stays the same. So I'm thinking "so this is what Asus beta BIOS looked like :P ", and also I am noticing that the clock is visible as well, but seems to skip every other second or so. So I reset the damn computer yet again, and this time the screen looks normal, so I enter the BIOS, everything looks normal here as well, apply my settings for 333FSB, boot into windows and here I am, somewhat shaken still, cause I'd rather not spend any more money on a new or second hand 775 motherboard, considering it's getting obsolete.

Anyone else ever seen anything like this? Seems like I got a very good CPU, but probably the worst P5W ever made:(
How annoying is that?!?!

[Falkentyne]

Does the board still boot correctly if you clear the CMOS with the jumper (after unplugging or turning off the power supply switch?).

[SS_The_Demon]

Does the board still boot correctly if you clear the CMOS with the jumper (after unplugging or turning off the power supply switch?).

I don't know, why wouldn't it? Should I try this? If so, for what reason, since the board seem to be working fine now (@333FSB that is)

EDIT:update, I downloaded SetFSB, made 100% sure i chose the right clock generator, booted into BIOS and set FSB termination voltage to 1.5 and vmch to 1.85 but let the FSB stay at 333. Strangely enough, it didn't POST, WTH????

Rebooted, set FSB termination to 1.4 and vmch to 1.75, this time it booted, and I got it up to 360FSB using SetFSB. Choosing 370 didn't go too well, as soon as I hit "get FSB" it froze. Sitting @ 333FSB yet again, frustrated as hell. And to think that some guys have been able to get 380FSB at 1.65V vmch as their 24/7 setting, is even more frustrating. But what about flashing BIOS? Using 1602 currently btw.

And to think that it didn't even POST when the only thing I changed was the vmch and fsbtv. I'm thinking that the board has some kind of overvoltage protection as well. And when POSTing the computer seems to imply this as well with the already familiar "overclocking failed or overvoltage failed". Isn't there anyone here who can tell me what I'm doing wrong?

[Aerics]

Aerics Try to set memory timings to SPD, our board likes it more and overclocks then higher.

I trayed it an changed the FSB again to 360. My system crashed after 2 min. I change the voltage to 1,65V and 1,4V and the vcore to 1,5V, but the system crasehd again after 6min.

I don`t figure out what the problem is.

And is it normal that i can`t chose obove 1.65V for the northbridge? Is this a Bios problem?

[G40RoCkEt]

I trayed it an changed the FSB again to 360. My system crashed after 2 min. I change the voltage to 1,65V and 1,4V and the vcore to 1,5V, but the system crasehd again after 6min.

I don`t figure out what the problem is.

And is it normal that i can`t chose obove 1.65V for the northbridge? Is this a Bios problem?

If you have a P5W DH with Revision 1.02g is normal.

The maximum is 1.65v for this revision.

(you can see the revision number near to the first orange dimm socket)

Btw, anyone already try config wifi in w7?

I cannot share my internet to my laptop with WIFI. (In XP and Vista i have no problem).

Already disable windows firewall, antivirus, update the wifi driver to the last in Realtek website.. still no have internet in laptop..

[Falkentyne]

@SS_The_Demon:

I faintly recall something about 1.5 vFSB not working correctly on some board versions, like it setting too LOW of a FSB or something else. It was way back in the thread, though. If 1.4v fsb worked but 1.5vfsb didnt, at the same other settings, then that's why.

I also know that vFSB is somehow indirectly linked to vmch...like, setting 1.3 vfsb and 1.75 vmch actually gives 1.82 vmch (tested by someone else with a multimeter). 1.4 vfsb+1.85 vmch gave 1.96 vmch....(it was something like that....)...it takes ages to find the chart tho (only found it once).

It was like a .05 mch boost for every step in vfsb...

[SS_The_Demon]

@SS_The_Demon:

I also know that vFSB is somehow indirectly linked to vmch...like, setting 1.3 vfsb and 1.75 vmch actually gives 1.82 vmch (tested by someone else with a multimeter). 1.4 vfsb+1.85 vmch gave 1.96 vmch....(it was something like that....)...it takes ages to find the chart tho (only found it once).

It was like a .05 mch boost for every step in vfsb...

Now that you mention it, I faintly recall that I've read something like that myself a long time ago. But anyway, I tried several options to get it to boot at 360FSB, but no luck except I got that weird screen 2 or 3 times that I told you about earlier. A few times i got lucky and made it past POST and could even see the XP loading screen, but after that either it rebooted or just gave me a BSOD. BTW, got an interesting question here...

Why is it that sometimes when I try to boot at 360FSB or more, I get an "Intel CPU µCode error"? Tried using 1.35vcore and as low as 1.25vcore but it doesn't seem to matter.

Getting annoyed with this mobo, and I really could use some higher clocks on the CPU. @ 2.4GHz my 3dmark06 scores is as follows:

4933 Shader Model 2
6162 SM3/HDR
2113 CPU

11076 Total

And @ 2.4 stock my memory runs @ 800, which gives me higher scores than 1:1 (533MHz). Now, with the CPU @ 3GHz (25% OC) and the memory @ 667 I get the following:

6072 SM2 = 23% increase:eek:
6959 SM3/HDR = 13% increase
2624 CPU = 24% increase

13324 Total = 20% increase

Running the GPU benchmark in Crysis show the same trend, with the minimum fps being 19.62 and 23.27 for 2.4 and 3GHz respectively. That's an increase of 18.6% right there, proving that my CPU, which was the 3rd fastest desktop CPU in mid 2006 btw, is actually bottlenecking my GTX260:(

Gaming is the most demanding thing I do on the computer, and I play alot. So you can only imagine the frustration when you know you have a CPU which can do 3.6 on only 1.3vcore, but is being held back by the mobo. Does it help oc'ing if you remove the wlan card? Do you have to remove the mobo from the case in order to remove the card?

ANY AND ALL SUGGESTIONS are very welcome at this point, there must be something I've missed, seeing other pushing past 400FSB for 24/7 use as I already said. I'm gonna stop whining now btw...

[Supa Chiney]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne View Post
Remove one stick of memory and see if the problem goes away. Or switch the remaining stick. Memory that is dying (like micron D9's) will cause this to happen.

Raise the memory voltage to 2.1v .....does the problem go away then?


this sticks are brand new, i did that when i first installed them, i forgot to mention that this problem started when i added a pair of the same type i had before (on my sig) but those were different version, so i though that was the problem, that's why i bought the new ram.

I cold booted twice this morning without issues will, report back in a couple days or later if problem stops/continues

is it safe to run them at 2.1v even if they are rated to run at 1.8v ?

the only way around i found to "fix" the problem is to switch the PSU everytime i'm gonna shutdown and it boots everytime i turn it on

[Falkentyne]

People have hit over 400 FSB with E8x00 cpu's, but they were all using the 1.04g board. And only the 1.04g works correctly with proper vcore settings on e8x00 cpu's; I know 1.02 is limited to auto and 1.45+v, and 1.03 I'm not sure.

You do have to remember that the B2 stepping E6x00 and X6x00's were pretty much limited to between 3.4 to 3.8 ghz on air, and 3.8 ghz often took over 1.5v to get there. If you boot and suddenly get a CPU ucode error during an overclock, its always caused by (1) insufficient vcore, (2) unstable RAM (most likely), (3) unstable northbridge (almost as likely, and can cause very similar symptoms as 2).

I think most E6x00 cpu's could do 3.6 ghz at 1.5v or more.
The B2 steppings were a dog though. The G0 steppings could do 3.8 or even 4 ghz with enough voltage.

[marzliak]

People have hit over 400 FSB with E8x00 cpu's, but they were all using the 1.04g board. And only the 1.04g works correctly with proper vcore settings on e8x00 cpu's; I know 1.02 is limited to auto and 1.45+v, and 1.03 I'm not sure.
.
Confirmed, i´m using a 1.02 edition. Bios 2901.

Vcore auto only @ e7400 and normal for my old E6600.

Any ideas?

[DJBamby]

Clear CMOS.
Sett Vcore in BIOS - 1.700V - real 1.28V
My Е6600@3,6 (400х9)_1.500V in bios
My E7200@3,8Ghz (400x9.5)_1.700 in bios

[PaVi90]

Clear CMOS.
Sett Vcore in BIOS - 1.700V - real 1.28V
My Е6600@3,6 (400х9)_1.500V in bios
My E7200@3,8Ghz (400x9.5)_1.700 in bios

Uh? Are you saying that there is a Vdrop of more than 0,4V? :confused:

[DJBamby]

Bios-1,700V , Full load - 1,256V

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3639/e720038ghz.jpg

[roger_h99.nor]

This vdroop can't be right..
The P5W DH usually have a droop around 0.04V.

Maybe your board is faulty in some way?

[G40RoCkEt]

This vdroop can't be right..
The P5W DH usually have a droop around 0.04V.

Maybe your board is faulty in some way?

Thoose vdrops numbers was wrong..

Do a good clear cmos to check this out or try another CPU-Z version.

In my E8600 when i select 1.40v (minimal) in my bios, in CPU-z report's me between 1.37-1.39v..

So the difference isn't SO HIGHHHHH..

[SS_The_Demon]

People have hit over 400 FSB with E8x00 cpu's, but they were all using the 1.04g board. And only the 1.04g works correctly with proper vcore settings on e8x00 cpu's; I know 1.02 is limited to auto and 1.45+v, and 1.03 I'm not sure.

Well I can inform you that I can select a vcore as low as 1.225V in BIOS, the board is a 1.03G. So 1.03G revisions are good for 45nm CPUs right?


You do have to remember that the B2 stepping E6x00 and X6x00's were pretty much limited to between 3.4 to 3.8 ghz on air, and 3.8 ghz often took over 1.5v to get there. If you boot and suddenly get a CPU ucode error during an overclock, its always caused by (1) insufficient vcore, (2) unstable RAM (most likely), (3) unstable northbridge (almost as likely, and can cause very similar symptoms as 2).

I think most E6x00 cpu's could do 3.6 ghz at 1.5v or more.
The B2 steppings were a dog though. The G0 steppings could do 3.8 or even 4 ghz with enough voltage.

Well, like I said, when I ran 3.6GHz I only selected 1.3vcore in BIOS and it ran Orthos for several hours without problems. And I didn't get the µCode error then, plus when I got it now it didn't seem to make any difference no matter what the vcore, at least 1.35V didn't. However, last time I reached 3.6GHz I used 2 Corsair 1GB sticks rated 800MHz 4-4-4-12 @ 2.1V. But now I use 2x2GB Corsair 800MHz 5-5-5-18 @ 1.8V. But those are only a few months old, and I am running them below their max specified speed and timings, but still using 1.8V.

So I'm definately thinking it's the motherboard (northbridge). But I'm still gonna try and go higher whenever I feel like I'm in the mood. But it's so annoying. There are still some combinations of settings in BIOS that I haven't tried.

[SS_The_Demon]

Bios-1,700V , Full load - 1,256V

Whoa, whoa, WHOA! You might wanna lower the vcore on that thing before you fry it, 45nm CPUs are only rated at 1.3625V for safe 24/7 use, and 1.45V for benching:D Heck it's even beyond the benching voltage for their 65nm CPUs which is 1.6V so take it easy alright;)

Look at a post I made earlier, CPU-Z showed something like 1.2xxV, but I had 1.45 selected in BIOS. Like G40RoCkEt said, update CPU-Z to the newest and see if it still shows the same value. Better still, check in BIOS. Even better, check with a multimeter.

[DJBamby]

Rev. 1.02G

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6264/vcorex.jpg

Bug ???

Look my best FSB with this mainbord- 450Mhz http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5264/cpuvalidation4053mhzuc6.jpg

[G40RoCkEt]

I think that the people talk here is about this Vcore.. :

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2727/20081109098.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/20081109098.jpg/)

[DJBamby]

Sorry for my bad english.......

Auto = 1.040V
1.400V=0,0992V
1.700V=1.27V (for my best overclock)

Test all Bios, clear CMOS. Never readout Vcore more 1,27V with Е7200 and E7300. E6600 working good!
My be revision is old for this CPU :(

[u-ultima]

the only way around i found to "fix" the problem is to switch the PSU everytime i'm gonna shutdown and it boots everytime i turn it on

i got this problem after trying to update my asus p5w dh bios using asus update,and it some how failed after that i had to turn off and turn on a few times to get me through the windows boot screen.now i have left it on 24x7, i m afraid that my hard disks may get damaged due to the power off on thing all the time to see the post screen.

[SS_The_Demon]

Sorry for my bad english.......

Auto = 1.040V
1.400V=0,0992V
1.700V=1.27V (for my best overclock)

Test all Bios, clear CMOS. Never readout Vcore more 1,27V with Е7200 and E7300. E6600 working good!
My be revision is old for this CPU :(

But don't look at the voltage shown in BIOS! Look at the screenshot G40RoCkEt posted. That's the place where you adjust your vcore, and you shouldn't have to use 1.7V for that CPU, you will fry it. Ignore the 1.272V you see in the picture you posted, apperently your motherboard doesn't support that CPU, so it shows the wrong value. Try setting your vcore to 1.45V, if it works then try 1.3625V and if that works as well, try to go lower step by step, and after every decrease in vcore boot into Windows and stress the CPU to see if it's stable.

You cannot possibly need that much voltage, it will only DESTROY your CPU!!! For your information, 65nm CPUs like my E6600 need higher voltages than 45nm CPUs to run at the same speed, and I only needed 1.3V to reach 3600 MHz with my E6600.
Just trying to warn you:)

[Yolanda]

If it's a real 1.7V then CPU will be very hot under any work, it's easy to check.

[DJBamby]

Hey, I'm not a newbie, but because of my bad english I asked a friend of mine to translate everything about the problem with the E7000 CPU...
Need to clarify something... that major vdroop happens only when I put an E7000 CPU in the socket... with all other CPUs it's OK... the Vcore setting is correct and everybody are happy... only when I put E7200/E7300 CPU in the socket, that big vcore difference between real setting and the readout happens...

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/6709/biosauto.jpg

Bios 1.400V

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6012/bios1400v.jpg

can there be a problem with the readout - wrong readout, but the setting is OK... like i'm setting 1.7V Vcore, it reads 1.27V, but actually it's 1.7V?

something more... check out the picture:

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1889/bios1700v.jpg

With 1.7V setting, you can see the real readout on the voltmeter... any suggestions?
I have this board since 2006 and thus far i've installed more than 30 CPUs to test out... that very problem with the Vcore happens only with the E7000....

[BobyTT]

hey DJBamby , nice to see that you start to post at XS also.

[roger_h99.nor]

This is not droop at all - droop is the fall in vcore from idle to load.

Since I don't own a E7000 - is it possible to boot this cpu at 0.86?!

You may consider checking your reading with a second DMM - no offense, but it looks kinda cheap to me ;)

[SS_The_Demon]

This is not droop at all - droop is the fall in vcore from idle to load.

You may consider checking your reading with a second DMM - no offense, but it looks kinda cheap to me ;)

Are you sure about the vdroop thing? That vdroop is the difference in the voltage between idle and load?

Agreed on the second statement though, try changing voltmeter or at least, change the battery as it shows the low battery symbol. I have noticed that on at least some meters they can show some very obscure voltages when the battery is low.

DJBamby: - The last screen you posted, this one:

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1889/bios1700v.jpg

Did you remember to save and reboot here, so that 1.7V is actually applied? 0.58V difference between the setting and the multimeter sounds really odd. Have you tried lower the vcore as I suggested? If so, what happens, does it boot/POST?

EDIT: Have you tried more than one E7000 series CPUs? What BIOS are you using?

[Falkentyne]

Yeah vdroop is the voltage difference between idle and full load.
Vdrop is usually considered to be the difference between BIOS setting and BIOS readout, although this is not accurate because the BIOS actually puts a small load on the cpu. (you can tell by comparing BIOS temps to idle temps).
So Vdrop is the difference between BIOS voltage setting and idle voltage.

Whether the poster's chip can boot at 0.86v depends on its default vid, I think...it's possible a 1.15v vid chip can load windows at .86v, but I sure wouldn't think it would pass prime.

As Yolanda said, a VERY good test is to check load temps.

[marzliak]

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1889/bios1700v.jpg

With 1.7V setting, you can see the real readout on the voltmeter... any suggestions?
I have this board since 2006 and thus far i've installed more than 30 CPUs to test out... that very problem with the Vcore happens only with the E7000....

FU** I can´t even see the message "To adjust Vcore, please disable blablabla". :shrug:

Bios 2901 @ V1.02g board.

I used a trick to mantain vcore@1,4v even in "vcore auto only" option. If u guys want to know how, please tell me.

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8021/clipboard01bkl.jpg

[SOS_DK]

I have a P5W DH Deluxe (1.04G / 2901 BIOS) with Core 2 Duo (6400) CPU.
4x1Gb Kingston PC2-5300 RAM (CL5). BIOS default configuration.

I would like to upgrade to a Quad core because I need the extra cores, and preferably also higher frequency.

The compatibility matrix for the board clearly states that several 45nm Quad cores CPU's are supported, but we all know how much help I'm going to get from ASUS if something doesn't work :-)


So I'm looking for someone to confirm that some of the CPU's I'm looking to upgrade to are not only supported but also work! I don't Overclock so standard performance (with standard cooler) is fine by me.
Also since I don't understand much of FSB (board is 1066MHz max I think, anjd Quad cores CPU's are 1333MHz, does it just clock down or will BIOS now support ?)
(http://support.asus.com/faq/faq.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&model=P5W%20DH%20Deluxe&product=6)


Does anyone have any experience/problems/suggestions, perhaps these (which I can buy cheap)?
- Core 2 Quad Q9550 12 MB (Intel Boxed)
- Core 2 Quad Q6600/Q6700
- Something you had working ?

Both are on the ASUS compatibility list, and the Q9550 seems like the best choice (and cheaper than Q6600), but the Q6600 as I understand is 1066MHz/non-45nm and might be a better match?
(http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx?SLanguage=en-us)


I am looking for the most stable upgrade (that works with my RAM), speed is secondary :-)

PS, I have been looking through this thread, and there are a LOT of posts and all of you are OC'ing some of these CPU's, but its difficult for me to see if I can do this without a complex OC setup/cooling/BIOS config.

[MarcusTaz]

I will have to find what page I posted my bios settings I think on page 226, but I ran my Q6600 GO step @ 3.4 all day long with mem @ just about 800mhz. It is a good board but the vdrop and heat issues with the 975x will give you that FSB wall. I am not an expert as some are but I feel it is a great board, still run one with a a newer E5400 as a backup gaming rig for my nephew. I did test out a Q8200 (crap quad) for a short period before I sold it and it ran fine but I did not check frequencys in terms of FSB etc... Hope this helps.

[secretworld]

Yes Q6600 running 24/7 @ 3ghz with all volts stock. Only set fsb to333 and ram to corsair timings and volts.
Good luck
Vincent

[Falkentyne]

With a 1.04g, the only cpu's you will have problems with are possibly vcore settings on the E7x00 and Q8x00 chips; all others should work fine.
You're just not going to get much higher than 370-380 fsb with a quad, and that's with a lot of voltage going into the chipset; a dual should reach 400 fsb or a bit higher. Lack of PL (TRD) and TRFC settings and GTL Refs is what holds you back (plus the board seems to be missing GTL reference data paths (on the PCB itself) for cores 2 and 3, which causes it to fall back on the corresponding address values for cores 0 and 1, which obviously don't help matters).

[SOS_DK]

I will have to find what page I posted my bios settings I think on page 226, but I ran my Q6600 GO step @ 3.4 all day long with mem @ just about 800mhz. It is a good board but the vdrop and heat issues with the 975x will give you that FSB wall. I am not an expert as some are but I feel it is a great board, still run one with a a newer E5400 as a backup gaming rig for my nephew. I did test out a Q8200 (crap quad) for a short period before I sold it and it ran fine but I did not check frequencys in terms of FSB etc... Hope this helps.

But does that mean my 667MHz DDR2 is a problem or only if I OverClock it?


With a 1.04g, the only cpu's you will have problems with are possibly vcore settings on the E7x00 and Q8x00 chips; all others should work fine.
You're just not going to get much higher than 370-380 fsb with a quad, and that's with a lot of voltage going into the chipset; a dual should reach 400 fsb or a bit higher. Lack of PL (TRD) and TRFC settings and GTL Refs is what holds you back (plus the board seems to be missing GTL reference data paths (on the PCB itself) for cores 2 and 3, which causes it to fall back on the corresponding address values for cores 0 and 1, which obviously don't help matters).

:-) being ignorant as I am to OverClocking I dont understand half of what you just wrote, but I hear you and the others are saying, is that it will support almost all CPUs if I keep it at stock settings... which is what I intend to do.... :-)

[Yolanda]

I think Q6600 will be a good choice for you, because Q9550 costs more and overclocks at this board to 3.0-3.2GHz, with Q6600 you will get the same 3.2GHz without problems and even can reach 3.4-3.6GHz.

Or maybe just overclock your dual core to ~3.2GHz and see new performance.

Also new Core i5 570, starts shipping today, with new Socket 1156 board will be very nice for quad core computing.

[SOS_DK]

I think Q6600 will be a good choice for you, because Q9550 costs more and overclocks at this board to 3.0-3.2GHz, with Q6600 you will get the same 3.2GHz without problems and even can reach 3.4-3.6GHz.

Or maybe just overclock your dual core to ~3.2GHz and see new performance.

Also new Core i5 570, starts shipping today, with new Socket 1156 board will be very nice for quad core computing.

Actually the Q9550 is 40$ cheaper in Denmark than the Q6600 :-) which is why I asked about that one specifically. And I will not do any OverClocking, I dont have the time to play around with it so I will just plug'n'play the new CPU...

[Yolanda]

In this case Q9550 will be better, however overclocking both CPUs to 3GHz is very easy.

[G40RoCkEt]

Maybe someone says that the Q6600 perhaps is better because is 65nm and FSB1066 what match perfectly with P5W DH native supports. And that's right!

Otherwise, the Q9550 as Yolanda said maybe overclock at maximum at 3.2Ghz. But 3Ghz is beat for sure with Vcore CPU at AUTO. And is 1333FSB CPU with 12MB wich is good for large apps.

My guess is: your best choice now is Q9550.

Reasons:

- Lower temps
- Good overclocker
- Powerfull processor

So, tell news after.

:D

[Yolanda]

Read an article, how to make working SLI on all Intel chipsets, even without modified NVidia drivers (only one Windows DLL cracked and some data added to Windows registry). It was tested on X48 and i965P, so I think our board now is SLI capable also =) However my GTX 295 is a single slot card, so I can't test SLI on P5W myself.

[Falkentyne]

Can you PM me the link to that article?

[Supa Chiney]

Quote:
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Originally Posted by Falkentyne View Post
Remove one stick of memory and see if the problem goes away. Or switch the remaining stick. Memory that is dying (like micron D9's) will cause this to happen.

Raise the memory voltage to 2.1v .....does the problem go away then?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Supa Chiney View Post
this sticks are brand new, i did that when i first installed them, i forgot to mention that this problem started when i added a pair of the same type i had before (on my sig) but those were different version, so i though that was the problem, that's why i bought the new ram.

I cold booted twice this morning without issues will, report back in a couple days or later if problem stops/continues

is it safe to run them at 2.1v even if they are rated to run at 1.8v ?
the only way around i found to "fix" the problem is to switch the PSU everytime i'm gonna shutdown and it boots everytime i turn it on

Update.... i found out what the problem was.. it was my PSU that is faulty I tried my old ULTRA PSU that I had on my bro's PC and it instantly booted, i ordered a new PSU right away

[SOS_DK]

So I bought it, installed it, at first boot, the bios said 2,2xGHz....???... I was forced to CMOS, saved & rebooted and it went dead.

Reset the CMOS with jumper, got into bios, everything set at auto by default, and it set everything right, FSB to 1333MHz and CPU 2,83GHz, happy day. I saved, rebooted -> board went dead. Tried that several times....

Finally I set the BIOS JumperLess part to manual (changed nothing else), started with Bus Speed of 233MHz, worked fine, worked my way up to 266/300 and finally 333MHz, and still it works fine. Now everything is the way it should be, but still set to manual, changed nothing else. According to CPU-Z it multiplies with 8.5 (which someone said on a ASUS forum was only possible in auto).

I am unable to compare what other changes might be set when using "auto" since i cannot boot up to use CPU-Z or even go to CMOS for comparison.... but at least it works :-) Now comes a few days of stability testing...

[pc1x1]

What settings are you guys using for a Q9550 on a 1.02g board?
Bios: 2901

Also computer is a tad noisy, even with a fan controller, any ideas?

Ps. Also my Plexor DVD Burner, can't boot DVDs at all, but it can boot CD's? Think its a problem with the burner or mobo? Seems burner? Looking for different media to reburn DVD.

[pc1x1]

Update:

Yea it was the media, strange it wouldn't work with RiData DVD-RW, whereas all my other burners worked, did work on a spare DVD-RW I had though.

Anyhow off to install Windows 7. Will be here for some settings configs later :), would like to get the CPU to 2.8ghz, or 3.0 if possible.

[MikeR397]

Sorry for my bad english.......

Auto = 1.040V
1.400V=0,0992V
1.700V=1.27V (for my best overclock)

Test all Bios, clear CMOS. Never readout Vcore more 1,27V with Е7200 and E7300. E6600 working good!
My be revision is old for this CPU :(

I am having the exact same problem as DJBamby. Please see here for a starting reference: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3968270&postcount=8311. Then see the conversation after the post (#8307 by Falkentyne) on this page: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=110193&page=333

I have a Asus P5W DH Deluxe Rev 1.02g with latest Bios 2901 (I've tried 2801 with same problem). I just upgraded from a E6600 to a E8600 processor and now am having screwy Vcore issues (which I understand is standard for the 1.02g Rev of this board, but there has to be some fix). I am getting the exact same actual Vcore readouts as DjBamby....

1. Auto Vcore - 1.07v
2. Anything under 1.525v Bios vcore setting will not give enough juice to allow the system to post.
3. 1.55vcore is really about .9v and allows post and windows startup. I've verified the actual is .9v in both bios and multiple CPUZ versions. I do not have a voltmeter, but DjBamby did and confirmed the actual voltages this way too.
4. 1.70v is actually 1.26v. I KNOW THIS WOULD FRY THE 8600 (45n) at really 1.70v, but its not getting 1.70, it is getting 1.26v. I can confirm this with the temps also, which are about 50c at 420 FSB (4.2ghz is about my max stable overclock in Prime95 with this voltage, boots fine at 4.35ghz but not stable).

So, chosing 1.70v in Bios gives actual 1.26v to the E8600 and allows me to hit 4.2ghz (420FSB) prime stable. I WANT to take vcore up to 1.40v actually, and I'm sure I could hit 4.4-4.5ghz plus with that voltage (on air with well ventilated case, Zalman CNPS9500 heatsink). I just got this chip for only $187 (less $40 in various cashback) new on Ebay, and I don't care that I'm slightly risking its life with 1.40v. I usually upgrade processors every 2-3 years anyway and have never burned one out.

Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated. I saw someone say they found a way to run at 1.4v with this problem, and would like those details please (djbamby?)! I've tried calling Asus, but they don't help. I understand a Rev 1.04g of this board would solve this Vcore issue, but I really don't want to put in a new motherboard and go through that hassel, even if I could get them to exchange my board (3 year warranty).

Thanks so much!

[mikepaul]

I don't know what to say. My 1.02G board sucks, and despite calls to ASUS where they SAID they'd try to recreate my 40nm issues at their shop using a board they had, no such thing ever happened. You'd have to send the board back and if they prove that it isn't good, then MAYBE you'd get a working board, but they seem obstinate enough about 1.02G not being 'bad' that they might send you another of those.

I'm having a hard time implementing my boycott of ASUS boards for my i7 project. ASUS seems to make the best boards, but after they screwed with me for weeks promising stuff that ended up never happening, I want to live ASUS-free from now on. Good thing I have no immediate plans, so maybe next year I can get going on it...

[MikeR397]

Does it sound like this is a bios version issue? I'm pretty sure you need 2801 or 2901 in order to support the e8x00 series 45n chips, and I've tried both of those. Both have the same vcore problem, but actually the 2901 bios gives more voltage than the 2801. With 2801 bios 1.70vcore gives about 1.19v actual, while 2901 bios 1.70v gives 1.26v. Who knows when/if they will release a newer bios that might help a little more. All I want is to be able to get vcore up to 1.40 actual (and while setting it to 1.70v is unnerving on paper, I don't have a problem if it gets me 1.40v acutal).

I thought I read that the problem with 1.02g boards was that they could only set at 1.45v core or higher. I'd consider, hesitantly, setting 1.45v on the e8600 if that was an option. However, like DJBamby, my 1.02g board has a significant undervoltage problem.

I meant to call Asus today (before 5) for thier technical support, but didn't get a chance. Thier 24 hour customer service support is anything but support.

[mikepaul]

My Q9450 has never been stable unless I underclocked it. I even tried the lowest voltage 2801 allows as a manual setting (1.45V I guess) and that also rebooted on me. I guess it's not insufficient voltage like I thought. Since the latest BIOS hasn't been reported to make a difference I haven't bothered with it.

I still see ASUS pulling a too-many-defects-deny-everything on the 1.02G problem. To tell me that NOBODY ever sent back a 1.02G with the kinds of complaints we have is hard to believe. I just toughed it out rather than be without a PC for a month, but I can't see everybody being that willing to put up with junk. Must be they ran out of bad boards before the hard-to-please types got theirs, or another reason for the returns was going on...

[Falkentyne]

I am having the exact same problem as DJBamby. Please see here for a starting reference: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3968270&postcount=8311. Then see the conversation after the post (#8307 by Falkentyne) on this page: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=110193&page=333

I have a Asus P5W DH Deluxe Rev 1.02g with latest Bios 2901 (I've tried 2801 with same problem). I just upgraded from a E6600 to a E8600 processor and now am having screwy Vcore issues (which I understand is standard for the 1.02g Rev of this board, but there has to be some fix). I am getting the exact same actual Vcore readouts as DjBamby....

1. Auto Vcore - 1.07v
2. Anything under 1.525v Bios vcore setting will not give enough juice to allow the system to post.
3. 1.55vcore is really about .9v and allows post and windows startup. I've verified the actual is .9v in both bios and multiple CPUZ versions. I do not have a voltmeter, but DjBamby did and confirmed the actual voltages this way too.
4. 1.70v is actually 1.26v. I KNOW THIS WOULD FRY THE 8600 (45n) at really 1.70v, but its not getting 1.70, it is getting 1.26v. I can confirm this with the temps also, which are about 50c at 420 FSB (4.2ghz is about my max stable overclock in Prime95 with this voltage, boots fine at 4.35ghz but not stable).

So, chosing 1.70v in Bios gives actual 1.26v to the E8600 and allows me to hit 4.2ghz (420FSB) prime stable. I WANT to take vcore up to 1.40v actually, and I'm sure I could hit 4.4-4.5ghz plus with that voltage (on air with well ventilated case, Zalman CNPS9500 heatsink). I just got this chip for only $187 (less $40 in various cashback) new on Ebay, and I don't care that I'm slightly risking its life with 1.40v. I usually upgrade processors every 2-3 years anyway and have never burned one out.

Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated. I saw someone say they found a way to run at 1.4v with this problem, and would like those details please (djbamby?)! I've tried calling Asus, but they don't help. I understand a Rev 1.04g of this board would solve this Vcore issue, but I really don't want to put in a new motherboard and go through that hassel, even if I could get them to exchange my board (3 year warranty).

Thanks so much!

I can't help with this. I don't have a 1.02 motherboard. Mine is 1.04. Your only solution is to contact Asus and ask for a BIOS that can fix this; and it may be possible that that revision simply is unfixable. A more permanent fix is to spend the $100 and grab a gigabyte EP45-ud3p. Some things in life are simply not worth the stress in worrying about; and I don't know your money situation, but if you had enough money to get a Wolfdale, surely you can find a way to save up something for a UD3P motherboard, which will let you run your CPU at proper settings?

[MikeR397]

I can't help with this. I don't have a 1.02 motherboard. Mine is 1.04. Your only solution is to contact Asus and ask for a BIOS that can fix this; and it may be possible that that revision simply is unfixable. A more permanent fix is to spend the $100 and grab a gigabyte EP45-ud3p. Some things in life are simply not worth the stress in worrying about; and I don't know your money situation, but if you had enough money to get a Wolfdale, surely you can find a way to save up something for a UD3P motherboard, which will let you run your CPU at proper settings?

Thanks for the response, I'll keep the EP45-ud3p in mind. It's not really about the money, but the fact that I'm really not crazy about gutting my computer to install a new MB in conjunction with spending the money. Also, given I can already squeeze 4.2ghz with the crazy 1.70=1.26v configuration, there is not a lot of incentive for the money and time together just to try for the 4.4-4.45ghz I expect I could get on air with 1.40v actual. In all honesty, I'm not sure I notice too much a difference going from my OC'ed e6600 at 3.35ghz to the e8600 at 4.2ghz. I certainly doubt I'd notice a .2ghz gain. The only reason I upgraded is that my E6600 sold after 2 months on Amazon for $100 (crazy in my opinion), and it only cost me about $50 after the e660 sale and cashback to get the E8600 on ebay.

I'm going to keep tinkering with my existing setup and talk to Asus again on the phone. I'm certainly not letting it stress me out. My computer, and building/tweaking it, is just a hobby. I enjoy attempting to maximize the value out of my components, both new and old. I could afford to buy bleeding edge if I wanted, but I get more satisfaction when buying "at the sweet spot" and overclocking for maximum value. Not always the easiest, but its where I get the most satisfacation.

I'll let you know if I make and progress or find a solution. Please let me know if anyone else has any recommendations for the screwy 1.70v=1.26v issue.

[MikeR397]

Just to add a datapoint, I tested all compatable bios versions from 2901 backwards (to about 25xx I think) and all bios have the same vCore problem too.

For some reason, Asus update utility now fails the bios flash everytime, leaving the board without a bios. Fortuntely, they have a nifty feature that lets you add a bios file to a usb and when you restart (the second time, the first is a no post), Asus looks for a file called "P5WDH.ROM" to flash automatically (you do need to rename the bios to that). What a good feature (in addition to the bios default setup reversion when you overclock too fall).

Anyway, I'm done trying different bios, and am sticking with 2901 and 1.70v = 1.26v I guess.

[Pawelek]

Hello !

I'd like to buy Xeon 3220 - (i guess it is an equivalent of Q6600). Still I have some doubts whether it fits my motherboard. I'm going to update my BIOS to the latest version but I'm not quite convinced everything will be fine then. Can someone give me some support?

Thanks
Pawelek

[pc1x1]

Anyhow I got everything installed:

Asus P5WDH Deluxe
Quad 2 Core 9550
4 Gigs of Corsair XMS2 Ram
Radeon 3870x2
PC Power & Cooling CrossfireX 750W

Bios is 2901.

Here are the problems and my solutions:

Problem:
Computer automatically restarts when shut down.

Solution:
Found to be a USB port issue having to do with Suspend, Ports 3 and 4 are unusable in the motherboard.

Problem:
USB Ports always Powered, does not shut off hubs or external hardrives.

Solution: None, except shut off the power manually from power supply, (switch off)

Problem:
External Hardrives take a little while to be recognized in Windows, seems to be USB issue again?

Solution: None, just wait, afterwards works fine.

Problem:
Catalyst Control Center is Buggy, 9.9 design is horrible, 9.8 they were in the right direction, now its back to being buggy.

Solution: None, use UltraMon for multi monitor support, only use CCC to activate CrossfireX

Problem:
Fails Boot, even not overclocked this motherboard exhibits the same problems as my P5WD2-E, sometimes on restarts it freezes on Boot up, before windows.

Solution: None, hard restart


Anyhow guys, those are my problems, feel free to chime in, I really wish theres was something that could be done to those USB ports, uber annoyance.


Thanks!

[Yolanda]

I founded an issue with IDE hard drive on JMicron, then this controller is set to AHCI, so SATA disk can use AHCI (in Basic mode both SATA and IDE work on JMicron controller in Windows Device manager): then disk have NTFS/FAT32 partition for Windows and EXT partition for Linux, in Windows after 5-20 minutes disk works in PIO mode with performance degrades to 1-2mb/sec with 100% one of processor cores usage. If manually set "Use DMA mode" after the same time it will work in PIO again.

[SS_The_Demon]

A little update from me:

I flashed the board from 1601 to 2901 and it seemed to do something, previously I was running 333x9=3GHz and memory was @ 667MHz. MCHV was at 1.65V and speedstep was enabled.
Now I'm using 356x9=3.2GHz @ 1.325V selected in BIOS, so obviously when I awhile ago posted here that I could do 3.6 @ 1.3V I was wrong. Memory is running @ 712 MHz and 5-6-6-18 timings (using SPD timings in BIOS),
which is odd because the memory should be able to do 800 5-5-5-15, why is that :confused:

Could it be that this board doesn't like 2GB memory modules? Oh and btw MCHV is @ 1.65 and VFSB is @ 1.50V so I'm running on the edge here I think, but is 1.75V safe for the chipset? Speedstep is enabled also.
When loading Orthos + Furmark my CPU maxes out at 75 degrees Centigrade btw :(
However I tried disabling speedstep, increased FSB to 367 and lowering the multi to 7 so I could ignore the CPU and concentrate on finding max FSB,
but once I rebooted POST showed me 2.57GHz which is correct but in Windows CPU-Z was showing me 3.3GHz and a 9 multi :confused: so I couldn't find out if 367 was stable :(

And I didn't want to increase Vcore either as it's running hot enough as it is, but I was thinking that I could buy an extra fan to install in my 5.25" slots, and maybe even a Thermalright HR-05 IFX + an 80mm fan for that so I could get as much out of this thing as possible :D
But if I can't get the board to apply a lower multi then I won't waste my money, I'm low on cash as it is :(

Anyway I was very happy at first but since then I started fiddling with PCSX2, a PS2 emulator. My own PS2 got fried by lightning a few years back and I haven't replaced it since and I'm not intending to it at this time either.
I played through FFX with almost no problems, but FFX-2 is a whole lot more demanding on the CPU, and at this point 3.2GHz just isn't it enough, I need a 100 or so more MHz for smoothness.
It's even more annoying considering I never got the time to play through the game when first bought it, only managed a few hours before lightning struck :(

And I also wanted to try Gran Turismo 4 but that's a big no-no, tried it for 5 mins and I was only running at half FPS :( too bad since it was a big favorite of mine back in the days :rolleyes:
However that might change when I install Win7 so I can use DX10 since the emu supports it, but I wanted to check here first if this board runs fine in Win7 64-bit with a 65nm CPU before buying a new OS?

[kyton]

new bios availabile

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/P5W-DH-Deluxe-3001.zip

Description:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ 3001 ]
----------------------
Fix Cpu Vcore voltage may not be changed with Wolfdale CPU

-----------------------------------------------------------------------


The BIOS file will be available on the Download page October 31.

[kyton]

I have a revison 1.02g board, want to put a e8400 in if possible. i just replace my x1900xt with a hd4850.
runnning a e6600 with 2x 1gb ddr-2 800 kinngmax modules @ 5-5-5-15
will the new 3001 bios allow for the e8400 to run. what fsb will it get also or should i get a new board.

[MikeR397]

new bios availabile

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/P5W-DH-Deluxe-3001.zip

Description:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ 3001 ]
----------------------
Fix Cpu Vcore voltage may not be changed with Wolfdale CPU

-----------------------------------------------------------------------


The BIOS file will be available on the Download page October 31.
Awesome!!! Thanks for this heads up. Maybe it was my incessant complaining to them that made them do it! I'll post back when I get a chance to test it out.

[MikeR397]

I have a revison 1.02g board, want to put a e8400 in if possible. i just replace my x1900xt with a hd4850.
runnning a e6600 with 2x 1gb ddr-2 800 kinngmax modules @ 5-5-5-15
will the new 3001 bios allow for the e8400 to run. what fsb will it get also or should i get a new board.
I'll let you know about my progress with the 3001 revision and my e8600. See my prior few postings in the previous page for more details. The 2901 will work, but you'll need to fuss with a faulty Vcore, and not be able to reach OC max.

Do a google search for your E8400 FSB results. I am pretty sure you'll need to up the MCH and ICH and whatever the third one is in order to get above 415FSB, as leaving those setting on stock did not work for me with FSB speeds above that. I haven't been able to fine tune everything b/c my max Vcore was limited to 1.26v, limiting the max stable OC to 4.2ghz (420 FSB on the 10x multipler E8600).

[MikeR397]

new bios availabile

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/P5W-DH-Deluxe-3001.zip

Description:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ 3001 ]
----------------------
Fix Cpu Vcore voltage may not be changed with Wolfdale CPU

-----------------------------------------------------------------------


The BIOS file will be available on the Download page October 31.Crap, no change, the 3001 bios didn't fix the problem. 1.70v still = 1.26v actual; 1.40v setting will not post. I verified this voltage both in bios under power management and in CPUZ; CPUZ also reads the bios as 3001.

Any other suggestions?

[kyton]

I'll let you know about my progress with the 3001 revision and my e8600. See my prior few postings in the previous page for more details. The 2901 will work, but you'll need to fuss with a faulty Vcore, and not be able to reach OC max.

Do a google search for your E8400 FSB results. I am pretty sure you'll need to up the MCH and ICH and whatever the third one is in order to get above 415FSB, as leaving those setting on stock did not work for me with FSB speeds above that. I haven't been able to fine tune everything b/c my max Vcore was limited to 1.26v, limiting the max stable OC to 4.2ghz (420 FSB on the 10x multipler E8600).


I just want the e8400 to run at stock speeds. I am not concerned with o/c the components.

[Yolanda]

In this case you can not to buy E8400, your E6600 at 400FSB will be at 3.6GHz, E8400 overclocks also only to ~3.6GHz on our board.
If you don't like overclocking much, you can use your E6600 at 3-3.2GHz (FSB 400, with lower multiplier) and it will be a bit faster than E8400 at nominal.

[kyton]

Let me try and undertstand, i cannot run a E8400 at it's normal speed of 3ghz fsb 1333 ( 333.25 mhz) or can i. i don not want to overclock anything as i don't think my memory likes it.

[mikepaul]

Crap, no change, the 3001 bios didn't fix the problem. 1.70v still = 1.26v actual; 1.40v setting will not post. I verified this voltage both in bios under power management and in CPUZ; CPUZ also reads the bios as 3001.
So, just to clarify since I'm lazy, you set the vCore in the BIOS to 1.70V and you get an effective 1.26V while running? Does this manage to be stable?

I'd *still* like to try running my Q9450 at stock speed but every "legitimate" setting I've tried reboots after a few moments if the FSB isn't underclocked to 290...

[Yolanda]

Let me try and undertstand, i cannot run a E8400 at it's normal speed of 3ghz fsb 1333 ( 333.25 mhz) or can i. i don not want to overclock anything as i don't think my memory likes it.

You can use E8400 at 3GHz (9*333) without any issues.
(However: EIST willn't work on 45nm CPU, so processor will be every time at 3GHz, without energy savings,
and you can't choose 800MHz for memory, only 834 and 667MHz).

I wanted get an advice for you, that if you spend 2 minutes, enter BIOS, you can overclock your E6600 to the same 3GHz, because E6600 and E8400 have the same "9" multiplier. Set bus to 333MHz, as if you buy E8400, and all. It's not an extreme overclocking, it's very very safe.

And what you print about memory? At 333MHz FSB you have to choose your memory speed between two choises: 834 and 667MHz. So this small issue will be not only with E6600 at overclock, but and with E8400 at nominal.

However for performance it's nicer to set processor to 3.2GHz (400*8) (or 3.6GHz, but it can be done with huge voltage increase and you, I think, not wanted to do it), at 400(1600)FSB processor bus will be as fast as dual channel DDR2-800 memory. At 400FSB you can set memory to 800 or 600MHz.

[MikeR397]

So, just to clarify since I'm lazy, you set the vCore in the BIOS to 1.70V and you get an effective 1.26V while running? Does this manage to be stable?

I'd *still* like to try running my Q9450 at stock speed but every "legitimate" setting I've tried reboots after a few moments if the FSB isn't underclocked to 290...

Yes, I set to 1.7 and I get 1.26. Its stable at 4.15ghz (I did have 4.2ghz prime stable, but somehow system crashed twice so I bumped it down more). I want to get 1.40v actual.

[kyton]

You can use E8400 at 3GHz (9*333) without any issues.
(However: EIST willn't work on 45nm CPU, so processor will be every time at 3GHz, without energy savings,
and you can't choose 800MHz for memory, only 834 and 667MHz).

I wanted get an advice for you, that if you spend 2 minutes, enter BIOS, you can overclock your E6600 to the same 3GHz, because E6600 and E8400 have the same "9" multiplier. Set bus to 333MHz, as if you buy E8400, and all. It's not an extreme overclocking, it's very very safe.

And what you print about memory? At 333MHz FSB you have to choose your memory speed between two choises: 834 and 667MHz. So this small issue will be not only with E6600 at overclock, but and with E8400 at nominal.

However for performance it's nicer to set processor to 3.2GHz (400*8) (or 3.6GHz, but it can be done with huge voltage increase and you, I think, not wanted to do it), at 400(1600)FSB processor bus will be as fast as dual channel DDR2-800 memory. At 400FSB you can set memory to 800 or 600MHz.

Wha vcore voltage should i use to get 333 - 400fsb with e6600

[SS_The_Demon]

I'll just repeat my questions:

Why can't I use a lower multiplier? I increased FSB to 367 and lowered the multi to 7 so I could ignore the CPU and concentrate on finding max FSB,
but once I rebooted POST showed me 2.57GHz which is correct but in Windows CPU-Z was showing me 3.3GHz and a 9 multi.

Question 2:

My memory is rated as 800MHz, 5-5-5-18 at 1.8V and according to CPU-Z, when running at a lower frequency it should be 540MHz, 4-4-4-13 at 1.8V.
BUT, my memory is currently running at 712MHz, 5-6-6-18 at 1.8V:confused:

SPD timings is enabled in BIOS btw. But if I lower FSB to 266 and set the memory to 800MHz, it chooses 5-5-5-18 timings:confused:

[Yolanda]

Wha vcore voltage should i use to get 333 - 400fsb with e6600

With 333FSB (3GHz CPU clock) I think it will work with nominal voltage or add +0.25-0.5 for stability, at 400FSB with lowered ratio (3.2GHZ CPU clock) a lot of processors need 1.4-1.45V, but some steel work at ~1.35V. 400FSB with 3.6GHz CPU clock usually requires a lot of power, about ~1.5-1.55V or maybe 1.6V. So try 3-3.2GHz at first, if you not wanted maximum overclocking from all system parts.

[cmthomson]

Encouraged by the posts above, I installed BIOS 3001 on my ancient original 1.02 board, hoping to make my E8500 run faster.

I can confirm after lots of tests that the CPU voltage reported in the BIOS is off by 0.45V; when the BIOS says 1.60, CPU-Z says 1.152-1.176. BTW, this is exactly the same as the AUTO setting in BIOS.

My old board has always, and continues to be, limited by the MCH clock rate; it hits a wall just below 390 MHz FSB.

The sweet spot for my board is 375 MHz, with the MCH at 1.60V, the CPU at 1.15V actual, and the memory at 1.80V, 4-4-4-12-4.

Bottom line: after another year, my P5WDH is still an amazing workhorse, and newer BIOS versions have not made any improvements.

[pc1x1]

Requoting, because seems like I got lost in the shuffle :(


Anyhow I got everything installed:

Asus P5WDH Deluxe
Quad 2 Core 9550
4 Gigs of Corsair XMS2 Ram
Radeon 3870x2
PC Power & Cooling CrossfireX 750W

Bios is 2901.

Here are the problems and my solutions:

Problem:
Computer automatically restarts when shut down.

Solution:
Found to be a USB port issue having to do with Suspend, Ports 3 and 4 are unusable in the motherboard.

Problem:
USB Ports always Powered, does not shut off hubs or external hardrives.

Solution: None, except shut off the power manually from power supply, (switch off)

Problem:
External Hardrives take a little while to be recognized in Windows, seems to be USB issue again?

Solution: None, just wait, afterwards works fine.

Problem:
Catalyst Control Center is Buggy, 9.9 design is horrible, 9.8 they were in the right direction, now its back to being buggy.

Solution: None, use UltraMon for multi monitor support, only use CCC to activate CrossfireX

Problem:
Fails Boot, even not overclocked this motherboard exhibits the same problems as my P5WD2-E, sometimes on restarts it freezes on Boot up, before windows.

Solution: None, hard restart


Anyhow guys, those are my problems, feel free to chime in, I really wish theres was something that could be done to those USB ports, uber annoyance.


Thanks!

[Stealth187]

So the new bios allows 1.02g and 1.03g revisions to properly control vcore for 45nm cpus? ie they are the same as 1.04g now

[MikeR397]

So the new bios allows 1.02g and 1.03g revisions to properly control vcore for 45nm cpus? ie they are the same as 1.04g now
No, didn't fix it for me.

[Stealth187]

No, didn't fix it for me.

You seem to have a massive vdroop issue though, I don't have that on my 1.02g. I suggest you try the p5b pencil mod.

[Anaya]

Anyhow I got everything installed:

Asus P5WDH Deluxe
Quad 2 Core 9550
4 Gigs of Corsair XMS2 Ram
Radeon 3870x2
PC Power & Cooling CrossfireX 750W

Bios is 2901.

Here are the problems and my solutions:

Problem:
Computer automatically restarts when shut down.

Solution:
Found to be a USB port issue having to do with Suspend, Ports 3 and 4 are unusable in the motherboard.

Problem:
USB Ports always Powered, does not shut off hubs or external hardrives.

Solution: None, except shut off the power manually from power supply, (switch off)

Problem:
External Hardrives take a little while to be recognized in Windows, seems to be USB issue again?

Solution: None, just wait, afterwards works fine.

Problem:
Catalyst Control Center is Buggy, 9.9 design is horrible, 9.8 they were in the right direction, now its back to being buggy.

Solution: None, use UltraMon for multi monitor support, only use CCC to activate CrossfireX

Problem:
Fails Boot, even not overclocked this motherboard exhibits the same problems as my P5WD2-E, sometimes on restarts it freezes on Boot up, before windows.

Solution: None, hard restart


Anyhow guys, those are my problems, feel free to chime in, I really wish theres was something that could be done to those USB ports, uber annoyance.


Thanks!

My P5W-DH with Q9550 only run 100% stable (24h day) at 320 FSB, (2,72 Ghz)

At stock speed the motherboard has randoms resets. (only with this CPU, with my older 6600 I could get 375 FSB easy)

[kyton]

i am new to overclocking. i have the 1.02g revision. bios 3001. ran prime95 on default settings. system fine. changed fsb to 333, e6600 @3ghz vcore 1.325v and left mem volt on auto. get 1 erroe after 10 min on the 1024k test.

what must i do. core temps went upto 67 deg cel according to cputemp. are these temps fine.

[MikeR397]

You seem to have a massive vdroop issue though, I don't have that on my 1.02g. I suggest you try the p5b pencil mod.
It is not vdroop. Its a systemic problem with most 1.02g boards (there are at least 4 other posters in this thread with the same problem). The vcore is off (lower) by ~.45v in comparison to the actual setting in bios. That is a HUGE difference, and is not vdroop.

[MikeR397]

i am new to overclocking. i have the 1.02g revision. bios 3001. ran prime95 on default settings. system fine. changed fsb to 333, e6600 @3ghz vcore 1.325v and left mem volt on auto. get 1 erroe after 10 min on the 1024k test.

what must i do. core temps went upto 67 deg cel according to cputemp. are these temps fine.
You need to find a thread about overclocking your specific processor and post your questions there. You'll get better answers b/c people will be more familar with your processor and its specs/settings/oc potential. This thread isn't really a "help me overclock this model processor." I'm sure there are threads out there with details that will help you much better ;).

[Yolanda]

i am new to overclocking. i have the 1.02g revision. bios 3001. ran prime95 on default settings. system fine. changed fsb to 333, e6600 @3ghz vcore 1.325v and left mem volt on auto. get 1 erroe after 10 min on the 1024k test.

what must i do. core temps went upto 67 deg cel according to cputemp. are these temps fine.

And what memory frequirency you set (even if you didn't change it, it will be automatically changed when CPU FSB is changed)? Try lower, if it's higher now then memory specs. Also after, if steel fail, try to disable Hyper Path, then add some CPU vcore, to something ~1.37+V.

[nothingxd]

ASUS have good job. When I use Bios 2901, I only OC my E5200 @ 3.3 GHz with Vcore Auto.
So, I upgraded to 3001, I can change Vcore and OC E5200@3.75 with Vcore 1.32 ~1.33V (set Vcore 1.35V and Vdrop 0.02-0.03V). My board version is 1.04G. But "Intel speed stepping" isn't working :shrug: . CPU is always Full load. But i thing this is enough for me. Thanks ASUS support. :welcome:

[MikeR397]

I have had nothing but very bad experiences with Asus customer service reps. I just called today about why the 3001 bios which states the fix was "Fix Cpu Vcore voltage may not be changed with Wolfdale CPU" does not fix the fact that Vcore is off by .45 (ie 1.70v = 1.25v). The idiot was very rude and kept telling me I have a faulty processor. I kept telling him that I know of four other people with differring e8xxx model processors with the 1.02g version board and the fact that thier 3001 bios says it explicty fixes the vcore problem, but he still insisted that all of us have faulty processors and we should get a new processor. He really was an ignorant jerk about the whole thing, and I called him such and hung up.

[kyton]

I tried again last night. tried my e6600@ 3ghz again Set evering on auto . CPU FSB @ 333, ddr @834 and spd auto, vcore auto, memory voltage auto. Ran prime95 for 40 min, no errors. upped my win7 score on cpu from 5.5 to 6.3. 3d mark06 from 10250 to 11550. Cpu temp went up to 50 *c and core temps maxed out at 67*c system was 43*c. Trying to find if these temps are fine. this is all done with intel stock fan.

[Yolanda]

Don't worry temps are fine, also you didn't raised vcore, so your processor works much like as an original Core2 X6800, which is on the same Conroe B3 stepping core.
So you can go further to achive maybe 3.2GHz (400*8) or something like it.

[kyton]

I have 2x 1g kingmax ddr2-800 modules 5-5-5-18. I run with 5-4-4-15 normally. @ ddr2-834 when running the cpu @ 3ghz the memory is on auto spd. it is then at 5-6-6-18. Should i change the timings. they also have vantec cooper ram coolers on them. the board is rev 1.02g. i have had it for 3yrs now. love the board.

[Yolanda]

I think 5-6-6-18 at 834MHz is as fast as nominal 5-5-5-18@800MHz, but also difference from this timings can't be noticable, also i975X chipset have memory controller making nicer latency then other chipsets with lower timings.

[P5WDHdeluxe]

Hey fellas, s'up?
i have 2 problems with my mobo and i would like to hear some advices from you
My build is: Asups p5wdh deluxe (bios version 2504), E6600 @ 3Ghz, 2*800Mhz Kingstone HyperX, msi 8800 GTS 640mb, cpuz v 1.52

PROBLEM #1:
When i clock my cpu from 2.4ghZ to 3ghz (bus speed 334), and i have Vcore Auto :
@Full Load in Cpuz: Vcore displays ~1.28volt, multiplier *9, core speed 3ghz

@Idle station in CPuz: Vcore displays ~1.16volt, multiplier *6, core speed 2ghz

Now,
When i clock my cpu from 2.4ghZ to 3ghz (bus speed 334), and i set Vcore manually 1.28volt:
@Full Load in Cpuz: Vcore displays ~1.25volt, multiplier *9, core speed 3ghz

@Idle station in CPuz: Vcore displays ~1.25volt, multiplier *6, core speed 2ghz

So, why when i set manually the value of Vcore although the multiplier goes from 9 to 6, the vcore stays same? Shouldn't change also the vcore and go ~1.16volt? Just a buggy dispaly? Really problem to lower the vcore? Bios issue? When Vocre is in auto no problem.

PROBLEM #2:
I have cpu cooler Xigmatek s1283 (really rocky cooler), but when i press the Noise off button from DH Remote all the fans go silent mode, but the Xigmatek's fan stops totally!!! Why is this happening? I tried all the combos from Bios about the cpu fan but every time i press noise off it stops for good...
any clue?


Thank you in advance guys

[Yolanda]

Yes, if you set voltage not to Auto, it will be the same all time. I think set it to Auto, if everything works fine, also in Auto, mainboard sets voltage due processor specs, as I remember for your E6600 it will be 1.32V, but under load voltage always lowering a bit and also CPU-Z is a program and for a precision you must use multimeter device and measure it yourself. That is way, then you set 1.28V it shows lower: 1.25V. Also don't worry if you count energy: under load it will use less energy, your processor works on voltage lower then in it specs, but under idle, processor load is very small and it willn't consume a lot of energy, only a bit more, then at 1.16V.
It is not a bug, because only overclockers change voltage and developers make it so not to make the following: anyone overclocks processor a lot, at idle (multiplier 6) frequency also increased and 1.16V maybe not enough to operate.

I don't know how your cooler works and also I didn't use DH Remote, I can give you an advice to use your cooler through variable resistor to lower fan speed (you can buy this cheep device, really it's a controlled voltage source, I use something it from Zalman, which they include with a lot of their coolers or sell separately). Every nice cooler can cool any dual core CPU without very high voltage increase at low fan speed.

[mg Ice]

OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate
Version 6.1.7600 Build 7600
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name
System Manufacturer ASUSTEK COMPUTER INC
System Model P5W DH Deluxe
System Type x64-based PC
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz, 3603 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 2801, 7/10/2008
SMBIOS Version 2.4
Windows Directory C:\Windows
System Directory C:\Windows\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume3
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.1.7600.16385"
User Name Ice-PC\Ice
Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 4.00 GB
Total Physical Memory 4.00 GB
Available Physical Memory 2.79 GB
Total Virtual Memory 8.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 6.42 GB
Page File Space 4.00 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

E6600 (400*8)
CPU-Z version 1.52.2
Processor 1 ID = 0
Number of cores 2 (max 2)
Number of threads 2 (max 2)
Name Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
Codename Conroe
Specification Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
Package (platform ID) Socket 775 LGA (0x0)
CPUID 6.F.6
Extended CPUID 6.F
Core Stepping B2
Technology 65 nm
Core Speed 3203.3 MHz
Multiplier x FSB 8.0 x 400.4 MHz
Rated Bus speed 1601.6 MHz
Stock frequency 2400 MHz
Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, EM64T
L1 Data cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache 4096 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
FID/VID Control yes
FID range 6.0x - 9.0x
Max VID 1.325 V
Chipset
Northbridge Intel i975X rev. C0
Southbridge Intel 82801GB (ICH7/R) rev. A1
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x8
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 4096 MBytes
Channels Dual
Memory Frequency 400.4 MHz (1:1)
CAS# latency (CL) 4.0
RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD) 4
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 4
Cycle Time (tRAS) 15
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 19
MCHBAR I/O Base address 0x0FED14000
MCHBAR I/O Size 4096
MCHBAR registers

mem volt 2.10V
vcore 1.3625V
FSB 1.40V
MCH 1.65
ICH 1.05
Memory (800) 4-4-4-4-15
100% stable 24*7

[sombrio]

I need drivers for the chipset with windows seven 32. Anyone?

Thanks

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5315/62999812.th.png (http://img24.imageshack.us/i/62999812.png/)

[dabl]

OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate
Version 6.1.7600 Build 7600
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name
System Manufacturer ASUSTEK COMPUTER INC
System Model P5W DH Deluxe
System Type x64-based PC
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz, 3603 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 2801, 7/10/2008
SMBIOS Version 2.4
Windows Directory C:\Windows
System Directory C:\Windows\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume3
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.1.7600.16385"
User Name Ice-PC\Ice
Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 4.00 GB
Total Physical Memory 4.00 GB
Available Physical Memory 2.79 GB
Total Virtual Memory 8.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 6.42 GB
Page File Space 4.00 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

E6600 (400*8)
CPU-Z version 1.52.2
Processor 1 ID = 0
Number of cores 2 (max 2)
Number of threads 2 (max 2)
Name Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
Codename Conroe
Specification Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
Package (platform ID) Socket 775 LGA (0x0)
CPUID 6.F.6
Extended CPUID 6.F
Core Stepping B2
Technology 65 nm
Core Speed 3203.3 MHz
Multiplier x FSB 8.0 x 400.4 MHz
Rated Bus speed 1601.6 MHz
Stock frequency 2400 MHz
Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, EM64T
L1 Data cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache 4096 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
FID/VID Control yes
FID range 6.0x - 9.0x
Max VID 1.325 V
Chipset
Northbridge Intel i975X rev. C0
Southbridge Intel 82801GB (ICH7/R) rev. A1
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x8
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 4096 MBytes
Channels Dual
Memory Frequency 400.4 MHz (1:1)
CAS# latency (CL) 4.0
RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD) 4
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 4
Cycle Time (tRAS) 15
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 19
MCHBAR I/O Base address 0x0FED14000
MCHBAR I/O Size 4096
MCHBAR registers

mem volt 2.10V
vcore 1.3625V
FSB 1.40V
MCH 1.65
ICH 1.05
Memory (800) 4-4-4-4-15
100% stable 24*7

Can you post some temperature stats please?

[Falkentyne]

It's clear that whatever BIOS "Fixes" the asus engineers are :banana::banana::banana::banana:ting out, are only for the 1.04g board, as I bet that's the only board they even have there. I had no problem with vcore settings on my QX9650 even as far back as bios 2302, although on that and on 2406, the L2 and L1 caches are not identified properly (but work fine according to everest benchmarks and CPU-Z ID). As before, vcore ranges only appeared after initially saving settings after a fresh bios flash or cmos clear. 2504+ fixes the cache detection, but in bioses 2602 and newer, the CPU temp reported by BIOS is about 15C lower (Too low) than the previous bioses, which reported the temps correctly.

Oddly enough, I had to set performance mode to "Standard", and Peg Link to auto auto disabled auto auto, in order to not get "weird" random hard lockups in some 3D games (even very "weak" graphic games like Subagames' Crossfire), with a 1 GB HD4890, which I never had to do with a 4870. (this was in XP; didn't test in windows 7, which I do have as a dual boot). No idea what I did that fixed the lockups; I thought it may have been my X-fi, as I didn't see it happen when I ran Rthdribl overnight, but at least thats fixed.

Im currently running @ 364x11, 1.375v, with 2x2GB+2x1GB Ram for 6 gb, but I had to put the fsb term voltage at 1.30v (mch is 1.65v) because for some reason, I got an error in IntelBurnTest, at *stock* (just 333fsb x9) and 1.20 vfsb, with that Ram config. 1.30 vfsb let 364fsb pass. I have another 2x2GB so I could use 4x2gb, but I don't feel like testing stability with that.

I could probably get lower voltages and more mhz (and PCI 2.0=more bw) from a UD3P or asus P5Q deluxe, but I feel that $150 such a board will cost, is better spent by applying it to a SATA3/USB 3.0 core i7 board later on, unless the board dies (I was actually thinking it WAS dying, when I had those lockups...and was VERY close to buying a UD3P)

[Yolanda]

I need drivers for the chipset with windows seven 32. Anyone?

Thanks

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5315/62999812.th.png (http://img24.imageshack.us/i/62999812.png/)

You don't need any drivers for Vista, W7. For Win2000 and XP you only need Intel iastor.sys driver if you use your SATA drives in AHCI or RAID mode turned on from BIOS on ICH7R chipset.

However you can steel install this driver and in W7, it will replace default Microsoft AHCI driver, sure if you use AHCI or RAID. Intel inf will also rename all chipset devices for their true names, but it all, really it isn't required.

Intel AHCI and RAID: http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20raid.htm
Intel inf: http://www.station-drivers.com/page/intel%20chipset.htm

On your screen I see that you don't have drivers for your USB mouse or keyboard and for sound or multimedia device.
If it's a built-in sound in P5W, new drivers are here, download version 2.36: http://www.station-drivers.com/page/realtek.htm

[armend]

I'm planning to go from winXP 32 bit to Win7 Ultimate 64 bit, what I need to know is:
1. I have an adaptec 1420SA Sata Raid controller which I intend to use instead of integrated intel/jbod sata raid controller installed on mobo
but I don't know if it is worth performance wise to change it,
2. where do I find the latest drivers for win7 64 bit (or similar)
3. anything I should take care of before or during install ;)

thx to whomever responds

[cmthomson]

Just a note for those considering moving from 2GB to 4GB on a 1.02 board.

I had run 2x1G sticks of Patriot LLK at 4-4-4-12-4 375/750 MHz at 1.95V. Great memory, very good speed for this board. (Still have them.)

Then I upgraded to 2x2G of Crucial Ballistix and was able to run them at the same speed and 1.8V, but they ran hot because of the crappy heat spreaders. Well they recently died after about 4 months of 7/24 folding load.

So I got 2x2G Patriot ELK sticks, rated at 5-5-5-12 1.9V at 800 MHz.

Much to my surprise, the highest FSB that worked was 345. But I was able to switch from 1:1 to 4:5, so now I'm running at 345/863 5-5-5-12-4 1.9V (MCH 1.60V).

I took a small hit in CPU speed, but am getting very good memory speed out of my ancient (collector's item?) P5W DH.

[mg Ice]

Originally Posted by mg Ice
OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate
Version 6.1.7600 Build 7600
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name
System Manufacturer ASUSTEK COMPUTER INC
System Model P5W DH Deluxe
System Type x64-based PC
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz, 3603 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. 2801, 7/10/2008
SMBIOS Version 2.4
Windows Directory C:\Windows
System Directory C:\Windows\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume3
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.1.7600.16385"
User Name Ice-PC\Ice
Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 4.00 GB
Total Physical Memory 4.00 GB
Available Physical Memory 2.79 GB
Total Virtual Memory 8.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 6.42 GB
Page File Space 4.00 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

E6600 (400*8)
CPU-Z version 1.52.2
Processor 1 ID = 0
Number of cores 2 (max 2)
Number of threads 2 (max 2)
Name Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
Codename Conroe
Specification Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
Package (platform ID) Socket 775 LGA (0x0)
CPUID 6.F.6
Extended CPUID 6.F
Core Stepping B2
Technology 65 nm
Core Speed 3203.3 MHz
Multiplier x FSB 8.0 x 400.4 MHz
Rated Bus speed 1601.6 MHz
Stock frequency 2400 MHz
Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, EM64T
L1 Data cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache 2 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache 4096 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
FID/VID Control yes
FID range 6.0x - 9.0x
Max VID 1.325 V
Chipset
Northbridge Intel i975X rev. C0
Southbridge Intel 82801GB (ICH7/R) rev. A1
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x8
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 4096 MBytes
Channels Dual
Memory Frequency 400.4 MHz (1:1)
CAS# latency (CL) 4.0
RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD) 4
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 4
Cycle Time (tRAS) 15
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 19
MCHBAR I/O Base address 0x0FED14000
MCHBAR I/O Size 4096
MCHBAR registers

mem volt 2.10V
vcore 1.3625V
FSB 1.40V
MCH 1.65
ICH 1.05
Memory (800) 4-4-4-4-15
100% stable 24*7

temps are
Field Value
Sensor Properties
Sensor Type Winbond W83627DHG (ISA 290h)
GPU Sensor Type Diode (ATI-Diode)
Motherboard Name Asus P5W DH
Chassis Intrusion Detected No

Temperatures
Motherboard 30 °C (86 °F)
CPU 34 °C (93 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 34 °C (93 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 36 °C (97 °F)
GPU1: GPU Diode (DispIO) 43 °C (109 °F)
GPU1: GPU Diode (MemIO) 40 °C (104 °F)
GPU1: GPU Diode (Shader) 36 °C (97 °F)
GPU2: GPU Diode (DispIO) 32 °C (90 °F)
GPU2: GPU Diode (MemIO) 35 °C (95 °F)
GPU2: GPU Diode (Shader) 32 °C (90 °F)
Seagate ST3200822A 24 °C (75 °F)
WDC WD1600JB-00GVA0 25 °C (77 °F)

Cooling Fans
CPU 2722 RPM
Chassis #2 2192 RPM
Power Supply #1 2096 RPM
Power Supply #2 1875 RPM
GPU1 917 RPM (17%)
GPU2 803 RPM (1%)

Voltage Values
CPU Core 1.33 V
+3.3 V 3.23 V
+5 V 4.94 V
+12 V 12.14 V
+5 V Standby 4.90 V

Max temp ambient Temp 75 °F
CPU 42 °C
CPU #1 / Core #1 45 °C
CPU #1 / Core #2 47 °C

[mg Ice]

I need drivers for the chipset with windows seven 32. Anyone?

Thanks

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5315/62999812.th.png (http://img24.imageshack.us/i/62999812.png/)

put the ati video card cd in.
Open file all.
browse to update driver.

[micmachack]

Does the new 3001 BIOS fix Vcore issues on revision 1.02G? The information in this thread is a bit ambiguous (something about a .25V drop!?)

I have a Q8200 (which I know is crap for OC'ing) that I would like to squeeze a bit more juice out of. I have the Intel Stock Cooler but willing to buy a good cooler (one I could reuse on my next system anyway).

Sorry for making anyone repeat themselves, but a simple explanation would be great.

Thanks in advance, micmachack

[Yolanda]

Interesting, just plug in old Samsung IDE 160GB hard drive to ICH7R port and Windows shows it uses UDMA 6 mode, Everest also shows UDMA 6 / UltraATA-133 mode.
Is it possible ATA-133 on Intel chipset? I know that it only has support upto ATA-100.

However I think it's not an error, HDD Speed Win shows burst rate upto 106MB/sec which is just above ATA-100. So it's an unofficial future?

[MikeR397]

Does the new 3001 BIOS fix Vcore issues on revision 1.02G? The information in this thread is a bit ambiguous (something about a .25V drop!?)

I have a Q8200 (which I know is crap for OC'ing) that I would like to squeeze a bit more juice out of. I have the Intel Stock Cooler but willing to buy a good cooler (one I could reuse on my next system anyway).

Sorry for making anyone repeat themselves, but a simple explanation would be great.

Thanks in advance, micmachack
I did not have any luck with it. See my posts in the past 2-3 pages of this thread.

[markq4xprt]

so what are the changes made at the bios 3001?
im still using bios 2801 rev 1.04g also i experience the cold boot sometimes

[Yolanda]

2901 fixes bug with 45nm CPUs and 64bit editions of Windows 7, Vista SP2, 2008 SP2, 2008 R2.
3001 fixes 45nm CPUs sometimes have only Auto setting for CPU voltage, which very limits overclocking.

I think you willn't see changes from 2801, but you can steel install newest bios.

[TrancëJay]

Anyone having usb issues with this mobo?

For example, when I try to open the 'USB Game Controllers' the window appears with 'not responding' even if no device is plugged in. After 30 secs it stabilizes but right after 'not responding' again.

I can perfectly use any usb devices, but this problem is annoying me. For example, if I want to play a fighting game with my usb stick the game starts as not responding and just after sometime it starts.


I thought it was OS problem but I have installed Windows 7, Windows XP and even Debian. Same problem in all OSes, don't think it's a driver related issue.

I have just update bios to 3001, problem persists.

Any help would be appreciated.


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[dijef]

Hello.

Last week I started to have problems with graphics in games.
I started to see bugs on screen so I quit game.
I thought it could be high temperature so I clean my pc and tried again but problem still appeared.
Finally after two hours, I run game again, pc crashed and my graphics card not working anymore.

I had E6300 oc to 2.6
3g ddr2 @ 750mhz
gf 9800gtx+ oc by bfg

It was working fine for over year in that configuration.

I thought it was graphics card problem, but I put new one from friend and I had bugs on screen. I format hard drive and installed new system (vista)
but it didn't help. same n xp sp3

I tried components and I think it is motherboard issue, is it need to be replaced or anyone met with it so far?

I just add that I have newest drivers for chipser, graphics and bios.
Screen bugs a lot in wow, but not in counter-strike 1.6.

I put all details in drivers control panel to minimum, ram speed at 667, 1.8ghz c2d. Same in game, it helped a bit, but pc going to crash in the mid of game, even if no bugs or screen are shown.

Please help.

[Chrysalis]

Ok I can confirm bios 2004 is fine on my cpu in windows 7 x64, well fine in that I can cinstall it and run without that BSOD 2901 fixes.

However now I am running windows 7 my cpu feels like a 386, everything that uses cpu is significantly slower.

2d graphics - scrolling heavy webpages, mirc, html email in outlook all show jerkyness but did not in XP.
nod32 - files that took 2 or 3 secs to scan in XP now take over 30 seconds (10 times increase in process time) sometimes when I download files I get a connect reset error as nod32 is taking too long to scan.

also I have an issue with the intel ahci drivers.

I installed with ahci enabled and can confirm the microsoft ahci drivers are operational.
I then install the stable version of intels driver which is currently 8.9 and my pc takes 5 minutes to boot (just sits there on loading screen for 5 minutes then will come to life) and in device manager the boot drive is not properly detected as shows as 'disk drive'. The 8.7 version boots normally but still doesnt detect the drive properly. The beta 9.x versions have the slow boot and still dont detect the drive. Drive is a WD black cavalier 640gig WD6401AALS.

Is my bios 2004 possibly causing some issue with windows 7? the changelogs for the bios indicate no operating system related fixes other than the 45nm fix in 2901. All the newer bios stop EIST from working properly so I prefer to stick with 2004.

Also what are the stock chipset voltages? ICH MCH FSB etc. thanks

Finally still no one knows why my 8800gt gfx card is extremely slow bios/post display? 7600gt was fast as normal.

[Falkentyne]

Pretty sure stock is 1.05 ich, 1.55 chipset, 1.20 fsb...
What cpu is that anyway?

[Chrysalis]

my cpu is a core2duo 6420 and thanks.

[Yolanda]

Hmm Win7 slower than XP, specially on ~2GHz CPUs, but not so slower. Test your system by simple benchmarks like SuperPI and 3DMark2001 or others.

Offtop. Moved to Giga P55-UD3R, Core i5-750 3.9GHz, but P5W DH is great :) and works at my ded's internet PC.
It's interesting 3DMark 2001 performance is the same in comparison of Core i5 3.9GHz with DDR3-1560 8-8-8-21-1T and Core2 Duo E8500 3.8GHz DDR2-800 5-6-6-18, but I thinked performance must be a bit faster, like SuperPI 1M faster about 20%.

[jdhaan]

I have been using this motherbord for three years for my gaming rig. (Great motherbord :) )

Currently Im using an E6600 overclocked to 3.2Ghz stable, but I've been thinking of upgrading it. Because of monitairy issues, I'd like to spend less then 200$.

So I was wondering if someone knows a processor that can run on the P5WDH without issues, with a greater overclock potential then the E6600.

Thanks!

[mikepaul]

What revision of the MB do you have? 1.02G has limited use with 45nm CPUs...

[jdhaan]

Hmm, thanks for reminding me. I just checked and I got the 1.02G revision, so upgrading my cpu is pretty much out of the question.

Now I'll need to upgrade my CPU, motherboard AND ram. :/

[Chrysalis]

Yolanda I did some digging, slow deskop performance is explained by a statement passmark made. Obviously people have been asking them why 2D performance on their benchmark is less than half of XP. Their answer was that in windows 7 (and also vista but not so much) microsoft made internal changes to the gdi in that things were optimised for multi threading and other new stuff but at the same time older type gdi graphics are now slower, their benchmark mainly tests older type gdi functions hence the poor result. Unfortenatly it seems most windows apps use the older functions as in my case the desktop usage is noticeably slower, games themselves seem fine so no problem with 3D. They even said overall XP accelerates more 2D onboard the graphics card than Windows 7 does. Since using the desktop is pretty much all 2D then it would explain why the processor is generally working harder in 2D mode.

In regards to nod32, it seems that app has a specific windows 7 issue in its http scanning so the slow http scans I am disregarding now, which leaves behind slow downs in real time nod32 scanning as well as other apps such as my creative console launcher. I have simply concluded I probably need a hardware upgrade if I want a completely smooth windows 7 experience, sure its possible as time goes by drivers get optimised but I considered that this board is showing its age and the fact the ahci drivers wont even work properly, starting to wish I just went with raid mode as I expect that would have been less problematic and I would have still got NCQ but I wanted the power saving enhancements of ahci. If I upgrade it will be a ICH10 board and the cpu needs to have high clocks, I have learned that the multi core thing is ok but hardly anything uses multi threading, most apps I use when maxed out simply either put 50% on each core or 100% on one core, hardly ever see 100% on both cores utilised. So with a quad core it would just be 25% on each core or 100% on 1 core with 3 cores idle.

Ironically my spare test pc is noticebly faster than this pc in Windows 7, this pc gets higher benchmarks and is rated higher on review sites but the other pc has higher real world performance. So that can only be down to the chipset or the way the cpu integrates with memory. The other machine is a amd64 X2 5600+ on a fairly new board less than 6 months old.

[Chrysalis]

Ok I am considering a as a temporary help I can push the overclock but it seems what I want isnt even easy.

Currently I am on 333fsb 2.66ghz clock on the 6420. EIST off but use C1E. The ram is ddr2-800

So I was thinking of going to 400fsb which gives a 3.2ghz cpu speed, and at this point I now realise why the 6420 was way less popular then the 6600. Hyperpath 3 is already off, I would need to set ram to spd, am I likely to hit any problems if I just set those 2 things and go for 400fsb?

[Chrysalis]

I am also considering a E7400, my primary issue is I need more clock speed for single threaded apps (rarely run multi threaded apps) this 7400 seems like I could get a decent boost without upgrading the board and the ram. At the same fsb I run now the 7400 will give me 3.3ghz a decent 30% increase. But a smaller cache. Will check this thread to try and find info on how well the cpu works with the board but if anyone has the answer handy please reply as will save me some time.

[Yolanda]

I think simply overclock your 6420 to 3.2GHz, it will be as fast as E7400 at 3.3GHz. It's more nice to upgrade later to 32nm Core i3.

[cmthomson]

Hmm, thanks for reminding me. I just checked and I got the 1.02G revision, so upgrading my cpu is pretty much out of the question.

Now I'll need to upgrade my CPU, motherboard AND ram. :/

I have a 1.02 board and upgraded from 6600 to 8500 a while back. It runs much cooler and a bit faster (bigger caches) but doesn't really overclock any better. I run the CPU at auto voltage because the 1.02 apparently doesn't have credible CPU voltage adjustment (see earlier posts in this thread).

[Chrysalis]

I think simply overclock your 6420 to 3.2GHz, it will be as fast as E7400 at 3.3GHz. It's more nice to upgrade later to 32nm Core i3.

so I just set 400fsb and expect no problems with my current settings?

if the board does 400fsb then the 7400 would give me 4ghz :D

[Yolanda]

Sure try FSB400, I think 3.2GHz will be too enough.

My board works well about 1,5 years with 3.8GHz E8500, but it's 1.04G revision, so I able to change CPU voltage, but some owners of older 1.02G revision says it can't be done.
Also not all 45 nm crystalls able to work at 4 GHz, specially from cheeper Pentium Dual Core and E7XXX lines or requires very high voltage (1.475V+) which can be cooled only using "supercoolers". Be ready that new chip will work only at ~3.8GHz+.

So overclocked 45 nm chip will be only about 15-25% faster, than 3.2GHz 65 nm "classic" Core2 Duo. In this case after two years of 45nms, it's a time to wait for a something newer like 32 nm LGA1156 in 2010.

[Nicognito]

********EDIT - I had a look on the first page and will check the tips&tricks there to see if they solve my problems - sorry! ********
Hi - 337 pages is to much info to browse so I will post my question and hopefully someone who know their way around this thread can help me out....

So I have had this mobo since 2006 with XP and now with Win7, my problem began when I had XP installed and it is that boot time is very long:
In XP it took 60-120 s after bios was read and initiated until I got to the logon screen for XP - always waiting with a black screen.

In Win7 everything runs smothly until I get to the Windows is starting text and here I have a long waiting time until the Windows Logo swirls into view.

Any thoughts? UPNP OS is enabled, Disabled 3,5" unit - as far as I can tell anyway.

Regards,
N

[Falkentyne]

I've never had PNP OS enabled. What's the point of having that enabled?

[Troop]

Hi folks,

Long time no post. I've had this mobo for over three years now with no issues. I run Windows Vista Business Edition (32bit). However over the holidays I want to go to Windows 7 Ultimate x64 edition.

Have any of you had any issues with doing this? Should I use the latest bios version or is 2801 fine? Just wanted to check before I format and get a BSOD.

Thanks.

[cmthomson]

when I had XP installed and it is that boot time is very long:
In XP it took 60-120 s after bios was read and initiated until I got to the logon screen
This is probably IDE device detection. Go to the IDE configuration screen and set all your empty slots to Not Installed, then set the detect time to the lowest value you're sure will allow spin-up and head load (I use 5 seconds). This should dramatically reduce your boot time.

[Pawelek]

Hi !

Recently I've put a nwe X3220 into my old good P5W DH Deluxe 1.03g. The new CPU worked fine on AUTO Vcore but I decided to see how far I can go with lowering that parameter (since this is Xeon). The VID is I quess 1.3125 (form CoreTemp) and revisoin G0 so I thought I might lower Vcore a little bit. At first I set 1.25 and encountered crashes while watching videos on youtube, back to AUTO problem has gone. Than tried 1.2625 and once again crash. Finally I set 1.275 and I hope this is enough (no hard stressing with Linx, Orthos etc but YT ok) for now. But... My question sounds: is this CPU somehow crap and needs so much "juice" or I need to change other setting in BIOS to lower Vcore more.

At present I have:
2.1V for RAM - 4x1GB PDP Patriot
1.275 for CPU - EIST enabled but in Windows set to not to change the multiplier so 2.40Ghz fixed
1.55 for MCH
HyperPath disabled
Other thing set AUTO

PSU is Seasonic S12 600W from I guess 2006

Best regards
kudlatypawelek

[Falkentyne]

If that cpu is a G0, and still in the "Conroe", but not "Wolfdale" family, then you should know:
1) default vcore for those E6x00/X6x00/Q6x00 chips was 1.35v.
2) The board has vdroop at load, so 1.275v bios is going to be like 1.21v at full load.

If the Xeon G0 had a vcore default of 1.25v, then that's news to me :)

[Pawelek]

Ok I know that def values are higher and def value should be smthing around 1.3...but I was hoping that Xeon can work fine with lower voltage. On one board I saw man having Q6600 at 3.0Ghz with 1.25V. I quess my CPU is more power consuming one.

[dogbert_2001]

I'm using BIOS 2801. Have been for a while.

On reboots, sometimes a network adapter disappears in Windows. I'd have to restart or cold boot to try to get it to show up again.

I tried to RMA it but they didn't do anything with it.

Found this related
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20080119053018875&board_id=1&model=P5W+DH+Deluxe&page=1&SLanguage=en-us

Edit: I found my issue.

I disabled the quick boot and fullscreen logo so I could see what happens at boot. Doing this let me see all the PCI devices that it finds. I kept looking for PCI Bridge Ethernet and kept rebooting to see what affects it.

Then I started playing with my network switch connections. I've found that when they're plugged into my DGS-2208, on the next reboot, the Ethernet disappears. Plugging them into two other switches that were 10/100 brought the Ethernet back.

Still an annoying problem. My other gigabit ethernet computers don't have this problem. So my only choice right now is to keep the P5W DH on a 10/100 switch.

[clavicle]

Realtek has released new WiFi drivers for Win7 for 8187l adapter of this mobo. Has anyone managed to use this mobo as AP using these drivers on Win7 platform? This software has few more options which I really couldn't get to work for me.

[G40RoCkEt]

Realtek has released new WiFi drivers for Win7 for 8187l adapter of this mobo. Has anyone managed to use this mobo as AP using these drivers on Win7 platform? This software has few more options which I really couldn't get to work for me.

I will try that because i want work with wi-fi too.

Let's see if the new drivers can be useful for us.

By the way, i make another upgrade, this time SSD Intel X-25 80GB.

Goodbye RAID0, nice to meet you. :ROTF:

[donpipo]

Sorry to resurrect an old debate but I wanted to share some information with long-time users of the P5W DH, in this thread I've taken real good advices and info... :)
Last post about this is dated 2008, but this is still giving me headaches!

I've experimented using EZ_RAID1 port with RAID_SET jumpers taken apart (and EZ-Backup mode change enabled on next reboot). ICH7R is set to [Raid].

While the EZ_RAID1 port might be recognized as the missing ICH7R port, and the connected hard drive correctly identified and working, I came across an issue: reading and writing may take ages, as if the drive was not responding. A simple 10MB file copy may even take 5 minutes! :confused: Even Windows won't shut down.
I've used this "no jumper" setup before to temporarily attach a drive before and did not noticed the problem. I was running XPand maybe no RAID, can't remember.
Today, I'm running Windows 7 with latest Intel drivers, with a RAID1 on ICH7R SATA3 and SATA4 ports, a system drive on SATA1.

Edit: The culprit is JMicron driver! Thanks G40RoCkEt :clap: for having pointed this, I would not have even been thinking that the driver of a separate controller could cause problems with a specific port on another one! :down:

Removing the RAID_SET jumpers is a clear mistake, as the Sil4723 chip seems to keep interacting in a bad way on the connection, at least when ICH7R is configured as Raid.

Edit: Actually, this can be still true, but JMicron driver once uninstalled and back to Microsoft generic AHCI driver, the problem seems gone for good.

I've also taken a look at the manual: it says that you must put the jumpers in RAID1 configuration, plug the drive on EZ_RAID1 and leave the EZ_RAID2 free, in order to setup a RAID10 with 4 drives using ICH7R...
So this might not be an issue in others modes than [Raid].

Now that I have putted the jumpers back to RAID1 mode, the problem is gone. The drive attached alone to the EZ_RAID1 port is performing as expected, not as it would on a regular ICH7R port, but without issues. :shrug:

Edit: I've experienced some random freezes since with iaStor problems showing up in event manager. Reverted back to Matrix Storage driver 8.8.1009 as advised by Intel communities forums -> Problem still here (note better general responsiveness!). JMicron driver uninstalled, problems gone!

Voila, that's all for my report.

Edit, I'm investigating whereas it's a problem with the driver or a version of the driver or even a problem under Windows 7 with the driver. I'll post my results here :)
Hope this can still help, even it's a bit late!

Cheers!
Alex.

[G40RoCkEt]

donpipo,

Before i put my new ssd 80GB and change my configuration to ACHI, i have RAID0 with bios set at RAID and use the ezbackup port1 and the jmicron too with w7 x64.

RAID set Jumper removed too,

I never lost perfomance in my drivres except if i install the new jmicron drivers.. wich have some kind of problem.. my drives became very slowww.

So, now i have ACHI mode and use the same dvdrw in ezbackup port.. All fine and RAID set jumper removed too.

More recently i noticed if i install the new and recent intel chipset drivers i have problems with the ssd and hard disk, became slow, very very. So i uninstall matrix drivers and voilá.

All is perfect now. By the way, my W7 index pontuation in disk with the SSD now is 7.8

With my old RAID0 (2 x 320GB WD AAKS) was 5.9 :rofl:

[donpipo]

Well, I didn't expect the JMicron driver to interfere with EZ_RAID1 port, so I haven't even attempted to uninstall its driver...

I've thought that I need this driver installed for hotplugging and "removing safely" my eSATA drives (old XP time), until I've actually tried Microsoft generic AHCI driver shipped with Windows 7... Although not as responsive with hotplugged drives in recognition time, this driver does its job well! My problem is now fixed... I think.

So, yes, as checked by removing JMicron driver completely, it's a JMicron driver issue.
It causes severe problems when the jumpers are removed. Issues with the jumpers back to original RAID1 mode position aren't bad as they are with them removed. But they are :(

Do you remember which JMicron driver version was working OK with jumpers removed?

Message edited because of findings.

[G40RoCkEt]

donpipo, use the jmicron drivers from your P5W CD drivers.

I think that works very well.

[DeGier[nl]]

Oii finally my account got activated,been reading this thread on and on for a while to make my decision wether I would upgrade my p5w dh deluxe rev 1.02g from an e6600 to q9550 or not. I was able to buy a cheap q9550 and so I did. Let me show you the setup :

P5W DH Deluxe
Q9550 + artic freezer
ATI 5770
4x 1gb kingston pc6400 ecc
2hhd in raid 0
taga 480w psu


Cleared the cmos and start running...first boot I kept everything stock no problems. I read about the half Multiplier which the p5w dh not supported and the vcore (no less then 1.4) so it kinda downclocked itself to 8x354 something. Tried some games and no problems, perfect stable. But my old e6600 ran a good time for 8x400 quite stable (a crash once and a while) so I actually wanted/thought to try the q9550 to get around that speed also. After rasing the speeds (in steps) for 200mhz to approx 3000mhz modern warfare 2 start crashing, very weird though the benchmarks gave no problem. The moment I set back the speeds, modern warfare 2 kept crashing so what I did was cleared cmos and then i While rebooting got back in windows. Then I saw Cpu-Z and core Temp say 8.5 x 333 speeds? The mboard says mp of 8 ? Weird!?
Anyway i can't get a single mhz more out of this q9550 or modern warfare is unstable,which is kinda disapointing thought I had it also with the e6600. Tried all bios settings possible mentioned here,raised the vcore to 1.4 (lowest possible but nada), raised mch etc etc also bought some second hand 2 x 2gb memory to test if the mboard would accept a better fsb with 2 dimms but without result. It runs stable now but just to get a little bit more bang for the buck Any1 perhaps got some tips which I might have missed? Weird that all games I played before MW2 gave no problems for the e6600 at 3200mhz and now I can't OC a single mhz or the game starts lagging like hell :(

[ThorLite]

Change your PSU and get a cheap P45 board...

[secretworld]

Yes, was in same boat on a P5W. Now running P5Q (vanilla) Q9550 @3.62ghz 425FSB at really low volts. 100% stable.
My P5W runs a Q6600 at 3ghz, won't go higher....

[pc1x1]

I am having a weird issue guys,

every time It gets to boot on Win 7, the computer suddenly restarts, also sometimes the usb ports work and sometimes they don't. Think maybe my mobo is finally dying? I don't think its psu, because it starts, it just gets to Windows 7 screen, and restarts automatically. Alot of times, the keyboard (usb) won't be powered. Then it just hangs in the Windows Start up recovery screen, doesn't go further. Sometimes after hours of trying, I can boot into Windows, but this is completely unuseable. Data is backed up. I am not sure if its a hardware issue or software, but I suspect, hardware is starting to go, and thats corrupting the software.

I am close to getting a cheap P45 board, but cash is low, would prefer to keep this going a bit longer. Would like your opinions. I have a Q9550, thats been stock clocked at 2.66ghz.

Safe Mode does not work, computer shuts down, couple seconds after.
Repair does not work, just hangs.
Normal also does not work :(.

[secretworld]

Did you try memtest from floppy or cdrom? Sounds like a memory issue, but could be caused by a setting in bios too (or indeed a dying mobo)

[Mavke]

As I am a bit stuck, I am hoping someone can help. I just reinstalled Windows XP and also Windows 7 just to be sure, but now the two Marvell gigabit Ethernet connections no longer have a MAC address. Yes I have done already an enable/disable of the network adapters and re-installed drivers but still no MAC address. It is annyoing as I just cleaned up the PC and made it ready for a friend who needs a new machine. Is there some way to get to the MAC address by reading out something directly from the Marvell chips or whatever?

MAC address for both: 00-00-00-00-00-00
And every single way with "ipconfig" or registry which I found on the internet didn't resolve this, except spoofing the MAC but I don't want that as these should have a MAC and I want to somehow a tool that can read it directly from the hardware or another solution. Thanks.

[Yolanda]

It's soft bug with Windows, Mac is written in hardware and can't be erased. I advice you to install latest Marvell drivers and then, if MACs will be zeros, type any static MACs in drivers.

[pc1x1]

Did you try memtest from floppy or cdrom? Sounds like a memory issue, but could be caused by a setting in bios too (or indeed a dying mobo)

Yea I did the Windows Memory Diagnostics and it seemed to be fine.

Going to boot with two ram sticks now.

Took them out, and it booted, dunno if its coincidence or not, but at least its on, going to prepare a back up. just in case.

Not sure if its ram sticks or not yet, or just mobo, cause Ill put them back on again. When I did Memtest didnt see any errors, may have to run it again.

[pc1x1]

Update:

Ok it booted with two ram sticks, still not sure if its mobo or the ram. Guess got to play the swapping game I suppose.

[Mavke]

It's soft bug with Windows, Mac is written in hardware and can't be erased. I advice you to install latest Marvell drivers and then, if MACs will be zeros, type any static MACs in drivers.
Thanks but I have tried that installing new, old, beta drivers and nothing works. And it worked before just fine, so how can that be? Cause I re-install my PC every year at least once, and only this time I am having this issue...

[secretworld]

Update:

Ok it booted with two ram sticks, still not sure if its mobo or the ram. Guess got to play the swapping game I suppose.
What Volts are you running? Maybe upping the North bridge voltage a little would fix it. 4 sticks usually need this.

[sky]

oh man, i've been away from here for way too long - but it was a healthy experience for my wallet, so no complaints on that front :D

anyway. yesterday i got me a x9650, slapped it on the board, no go. i guess the old skills were gone, as i managed to screw up a few pins of the socket (genius, i know). once that was sorted i got it to booting, well sort of. the board had been on bios 1602 since forever it seems, and that wouldn't recognize the q9650 - no surprises there, really. so back in went the e6600es, cmos clear into windows. download and flash bios, rinse and repeat.

so yea i got the q9650 running. wanted to get it's clockspeeds to at least where the e66 had been. hopped into bios - w t f - minimum vcore 1.4v??? that is more than my e66 ever got. and that was 65nm, this is 45nm. so i stayed away from that, set everything to auto (mighty overclock, that, lol). and have been sitting at that. now i skipped over the thread and noticed that real vcore readings are way off compared to what is set in the bios. i think i saw some guy saying his vcore is set to 1.7v and he get's like 1.3ish for real.

so my quick question is, by how much is the selected voltage off compared to the real voltage? as of now i have no other means to measure vcore than usinc cpuz or some such tools. setting the vcore to auto (haven't done that in a decade) it sits at 1.216v for 3.150mhz. that e66 used to want 1.35v for 3.600 or 1.45v or so for 4.000. now this q9650 is said to have used 1.27 for roughly 4.000 so i'm kinda looking at 1.25v for 3600ish mhz - gotta keep an eye on temps though, as i couldn't be bothered to break out the wc or vpc cooling yet again.

any ideas - rough pointers will do. thanks guys

[Falkentyne]

Just set it at 1.4v in bios. Current steppings of Q9650 (is that a Q9650 or a QX9650, which won't go as high in mhz, but will do 4+ ghz with the unliked multi?) should have no trouble handling 1.4v if you keep the cooling down.

Your problem isnt the vcore, its the FSB with the quad on that board. Frankly, if you do a simple $100 switch with a UD3P, you may find yourself able to reach close to 4.4 ghz with that vcore, as long as it's the E0 stepping chip.

[mw818]

Greetings, i just had to replace my DVD drive, and picked up one that connected through SATA (my previous connected through IDE). My dilemma is that I currently have 4 SATA hard drives, with no raid setup; I would like to connect my DVD drive to the board somehow, I am currently using all 3 ICH7R sata connectors (at the bottom right of the board), and the JMICRON connector(above the PCI-E slot) .

My question is, is there a way to set up my system so i can plug my DVD drive into one of the EZ_BACKUP sata ports and have it run properly? Thank you for your time :)

-Mike

[Chrysalis]

there is way but I think will be easier using the jmicron sata port.

the ez-raid requires you to move/remove a jumper cant remember which.

[Chrysalis]

there is way but I think will be easier using the jmicron sata port.

the ez-raid requires you to move/remove a jumper cant remember which.

[donpipo]

EZ_RAID1 SATA port acts as the "missing" ICH7R port if you connect only one drive to it.
Beware, don't attach a hard drive on the EZ_RAID2 port with EZ_RAID1 empty, or all data on it will be erased.

If you don't use RAID, you may have to remove both the blue RAID_SET jumpers, then enable "EZ_RAID Mode Change" in BIOS.
That will disable the second EZ_RAID2 orange port, making you hard drive recognized as its former name rather than "External Disk".

The orange ports are designed to handle hard drives, so you should preferably move your hard disk from the JMicron port to the EZ_RAID1 port, and plug the DVD drive to the JMicron port.

Just my advice...

[kyton]

just upgrade my board with an extra ram 2x 1gb kingston ddr2-800. boot up half way in windows. Blue screen. put those dimms in another pc and they work fine. could it be that the board does not like them or do i need to adjust some voltages. had mem volt at 1.8 & 1.9v.

[Falkentyne]

1.8v is sort of low. Most 1 GB sticks work great at 2.0v. Some brands from back in the day won't boot at 1.8v but will POST at 1.8v to allow you to change the voltage. Try that. And try 4-4-4-12 timings. I've seen some that will accept 2.1v directly within the specs...

And to avoid OS corruption, you should DEFINITELY boot to a floppy/USB drive with memtest86+, just to make sure you can pass tests 1-5 cleanly. OS corruption (meaning safe mode won't even load anymore) is far more likely to occur from memory problems than from CPU problems.

[MINIz guy]

Hi all, long time no post. I've recently rebuilt my desktop and have bought Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit. Now before I install it, where and what drivers am I supposed to use? Asus Support shows no drivers specifically made for Windows 7.

Sorry for not searching if this is easy to find. Trying to search Windows 7 has the "7" not show up, bringing up all the OS posts. I just can't comb through them all!

[Mordor]

I installed win7 x64 on mine a few weeks back, and win7 had or found all the necessary drivers by itself. It is working nicely on mine sofar. I am not using the built in wifi nor any of the other special Asus features of the board, but otherwise you should probably be able to use the Vista drivers for those on win7.

[MINIz guy]

Great. Thank you! That makes life much simpler for me.

[Eovein]

New Bios released :up:

Version 3002, so now our best beloved motherboard has 2010 year in bios date, like modern 1156 models ;)

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/Socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-3002.zip

PS. Maybe for 1155 ASUS will make something P8W Deluxe :rolleyes:

[MarcusTaz]

New Bios released :up:

Version 3002, so now our best beloved motherboard has 2010 year in bios date, like modern 1156 models ;)

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/Socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-3002.zip

PS. Maybe for 1155 ASUS will make something P8W Deluxe :rolleyes:

Wow cannot beleive they would release a new bios for this old board.... I still have one too :clap:, Any word on what this bios is for? is it just CPU/mem support or does it include any fixes?

[MarcusTaz]

Wow cannot beleive they would release a new bios for this old board.... I still have one too :clap:, Any word on what this bios is for? is it just CPU/mem support or does it include any fixes?

Ah just looked it up myself;

P5W DH Deluxe 3002 BIOS
Fix VT does not work after resume from S3.



Thanks for heads up!

[mw818]

Greetings, this may be a long shot; but its worth a try. I've recently updated to windows 7 x64 and i'm noticing my usb transfer rates are disgustingly slow; could this possibly be caused by a mobo driver issue? Thank you in advance
-Mike

[MarcusTaz]

I would have to guess no. But I guess anything is possible. Did you make sure the jab settings in bios are set to high speed?

[MarcusTaz]

That would be "USB" thanks spell check..

[mw818]

Thanks for the reply, yes, they are set to hispeed. i've noticed on any port the fastest transfer rate i'll get is around 20megs per second -_-; any other ideas? thanks again

[MarcusTaz]

Other then that no... if you upgraded try doing a fresh install. 20 does not sound that bad especially if the external drive is getting full... hard to tell. Win 7 should install the latest drivers but you could always try intel direct for chipset drivers... doubt that will do anything.

[lawrywild]

New Bios released :up:

Version 3002, so now our best beloved motherboard has 2010 year in bios date, like modern 1156 models ;)

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/Socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-3002.zip

PS. Maybe for 1155 ASUS will make something P8W Deluxe :rolleyes:

lol pretty crazy I created this thread when I was 16 years old and there's still new BIOSes released. RIP my P5WDH..

[dabl]

Thanks, mine's still going strong! It was my home theatre pc, got moved to another case and is now my digital audio workstation.

[robercito]

:( Really need help on this:
I have 2 drives on the Asus EZBackup (SIL4723) in Raid0 configuration, and other 3 drives on Intel ICH7 configured as non-raid. Because I don't want to mess up with the Raid, I unplugged the 2 drives from EZBackup (SIL4723) ports and I was trying to install the OS on a SSD drive conected to first port of ICH7. I succeded only after I modified the ICH7 controller to AHCI mode. After that, I was reconnect the 2 drives of Raid0, and boooooooooooom....the raid was gone. I must mention that I did not touch the SIL4723 jumpers. The only thing with I mess up was the setting for ICH7 in bios. Could that blow away my Raid0?The real problem is that the RAID0 I have a lot of material that is critical to recover it somehow.

[Biker]

lol pretty crazy I created this thread when I was 16 years old and there's still new BIOSes released.

LOL :D

Just wanted to say that bios 3002 fixed my issue where switching on the kitchen light powered up the system in the next room :rofl:

[Yolanda]

lol pretty crazy I created this thread when I was 16 years old and there's still new BIOSes released. RIP my P5WDH..

Even now P5W is very strong setup, with dual core 45 nm, such as E8500 running at 3.8GHz, and NVIDIA Geforce GTX 570 or Radeon 6970. Keep in mind, then board was released, there was only Geforce 6800 Ultra and Radeon X850XT, new cards are 10 times faster and work fine with this board. :clap:

With Quad cores and next generation cards or upcoming dual GPU cards, board will work even faster :)

[Yolanda]

:( Really need help on this:
I have 2 drives on the Asus EZBackup (SIL4723) in Raid0 configuration, and other 3 drives on Intel ICH7 configured as non-raid. Because I don't want to mess up with the Raid, I unplugged the 2 drives from EZBackup (SIL4723) ports and I was trying to install the OS on a SSD drive conected to first port of ICH7. I succeded only after I modified the ICH7 controller to AHCI mode. After that, I was reconnect the 2 drives of Raid0, and boooooooooooom....the raid was gone. I must mention that I did not touch the SIL4723 jumpers. The only thing with I mess up was the setting for ICH7 in bios. Could that blow away my Raid0?The real problem is that the RAID0 I have a lot of material that is critical to recover it somehow.

I think it's very sad, try different BIOS settings, maybe RAID will work, but the chance is not big, also your setup is rare, so few or even nobody really know much aboit it. For the future: always, not, ALWAYS, backup critical data to other HDD, DVD, USB HDD and so on. Maybe you mistake and connected one HDD, priviosly connected to one port, to another, and RAID can be destroyed.

[Yolanda]

PS. Maybe for 1155 ASUS will make something P8W Deluxe :rolleyes:

W - workstation tag in ASUS board names, for future LGA 2011 socket such board will be released, so P9W Deluxe maybe real ;)

[nothingxd]

I have false when update new BIOS, it had error when "New BIOS is writing"
How can I save my Mobo ??? :(
Does Asus CrashFree BIOS 3 help me any thing ???

[Falkentyne]

Did you use a boot disk with afudos, or did you flash with the BIOS ezflash or in windows? I Forgot how crashfree 3 works...I think you need the original asus dvd inserted, and maybe a PCI video card?

I forgot, sorry.
If you can get the board to start, please flash with afudos and the bios BIN file, NOT in windows and not in ezflash!

[Yolanda]

Board can't start? You need a floppy disk with P5WDH.ROM file (rename your BIOS to it), then board, if it has working boot block, will flash this BIOS.
CD/DVD and FAT formatted USB drive (ASUS sad that 4-8GB or smaller drives only will work, but my 16GB drive works too) also can be used, but in some cases floppy is last chance.

Also you can try to press ALT+F2, it's a key to start flashing at boot up. If your board is working you also can use it to flash new BIOS.

[mikepaul]

Something bad happened to my DH Deluxe. BIOS errors like no fan detected, then several HIT F1 to Continue ones. Finally it refused to boot, and just turns back off after a few seconds with a loud relay click.

My options are few: I *need* to bring this machine back up even if I do get a i7 system going to eplace it. Has anyone got a DH Deluxe on a shelf they want to sell? OR, what else in a 775 board comes close to what it had, since PATA and a bunch of SATA ports are important...

[MarcusTaz]

Something bad happened to my DH Deluxe. BIOS errors like no fan detected, then several HIT F1 to Continue ones. Finally it refused to boot, and just turns back off after a few seconds with a loud relay click.

My options are few: I *need* to bring this machine back up even if I do get a i7 system going to eplace it. Has anyone got a DH Deluxe on a shelf they want to sell? OR, what else in a 775 board comes close to what it had, since PATA and a bunch of SATA ports are important...


Did you try to clear the cmos? I assume yes but have to ask the obvious... Are you sure your PSU is not on the blink, in other words have you ruled out all other possible hardware problems...

[mikepaul]

Did you try to clear the cmos? I assume yes but have to ask the obvious... Are you sure your PSU is not on the blink, in other words have you ruled out all other possible hardware problems...
No to both ideas. I haven't pulled it apart yet since the symptoms seemed far too serious. Having the main fan speed stop reporting in then having other bad Hit F1 to Continue errors and finally no boot at all made me think I was dead. I'll get more diagnostics soon but the offer to pick up a 1.04 board willstill apply since that'd be an upgrade anyway...

[775911]

asus p5ne has 2 ide sockets on it which makes it fairly unusual. Mine was clocked at 3.2ghz


I'd strip it down before declaring it dead including removing the battery for a day. I tried everything bar removing the drive cable once, turns out it was the simplest thing

Another machine we have freezes on boot if a certain usb port is used. Take it out and it carries on, use the port in windows and no problem

[JustusIV]

Just installed windows 7 on my old p5w.
Any drivers i need to install to get things working?

[Falkentyne]

W7 should have all necessary drivers already, as long as you aren't using the wireless or dh remote features. I never needed the CD in windows 7 at all. There are some Vista/W7 drivers on Asus page, though.

[d4d4cH]

hello
i got this board and i am trying to set it up
the rest of the hardware is 2x4770 ati for crossfire, E5800 dual core pentium, 2x2gb ddr2 800 ballistix, 2x1gb ddr2 800 gskill
so far the problems i ran in were. hanging in bios while entering ez flash or that overclocking program, i reflashed a couple of times 2901 bios and now had to go back to 3001 for vcore to be selectable for wolfdale
what kind of FSB speeds should i expect?
sometimes when i RESTART from windows, the board just shuts off after displaying processor speed, right before showing the available memory
is that normal, i.e. one of the bugs or?
i just know that there are some real experts on this :)

thanks for the help

PS does anyone have a backplate that he doesnt need anymore?