ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

[Ragdd]

Anyone who know if the new Intel E8600 works with this Asus P5W DH Deluxe board?
I have the latest bios installed with an Intel E8500 CPU.

[Tamerlane]

Anyone who know if the new Intel E8600 works with this Asus P5W DH Deluxe board?
I have the latest bios installed with an Intel E8500 CPU.

That's the million dollar question.

E8600 may be a decent upgrade for even owners of the older revisions of P5WDH (who may be forced to use auto Vcore), since I think there early reports of retail E8600 getting 4.0ghz on default Vcore, which even the FSB limited P5W might be able to eek out.

It's just too bad that the current BIOS makes it questionable for many of us (with boards before 1.03) to upgrade to the arguably better value overclockers like E8500. Speaking of which, Ragdd, do you know which board revision you have and do you get manual Vcore options below 1.45V?

[Ragdd]

I have the 1.03g revision of the board.
Will have a look at the BIOS of the vcore settings when I'm home.

[Tamerlane]

I have the 1.03g revision of the board.
Will have a look at the BIOS of the vcore settings when I'm home.

Thanks, this will be especially interesting then since you have 1.03. We know for sure that 1.04 boards can get the full range of manual Vcore settings for these CPUs, while 1.01 and 1.02 boards seem to get a min. of 1.40 or 1.45V.

In a recent thread at the ASUS forums someone said they talked to tech support about the problem, and that a techie sent them a photo of a BIOS screen proving that proper Vcores were possible on the P5WDH with the latest BIOS. But the techie admitted the board revision was 1.04 and that he 'couldn't find' an older revision to test.. :rolleyes:

[Ragdd]

Whats the latest revision of the Asus P5W DH Deluxe board?
1.04? I thought the 1.03g was.
Previous I had the 1.02 version.
I sold them and bought the 2x 1.03g version boards to be sure it was compatible with the Intel C2D 6850 processor which runs at 1333 FSB.
Now I have 2 x E8500 Wolfdale with this board.

Also is it true that the P5W DH Deluxe are end of life?
My supplier says that the P5W DH Deluxe board isn't been sold anymore.
There also the P5W board which is a P5W DH Deluxe without the wireless and remote controll addons.

Also whats are the requirements to run the E8600 CPU.
What vcore do they require and is a BIOS update requirered?
I run everything a stock speed, no overclocking.

Could you give me the thread url on the Asus website?

[Tamerlane]

http://vip.asus.com/forum/topic.aspx?board_id=1&model=P5W%20DH%20Deluxe&SLanguage=en-us

[Yolanda]

Why you so afraid to set minimal 1.45V on 45nm CPU, that can be set by old revision of P5W? With vdrop really it`s only about 1.41v. It`s not so high, due to Intel specs they say about 1.45V as maximal vcore on Wolfdale and Yorkfield (it`s real 1.45V, so it`s about 1.49V if you set on P5W). Many retail vendors sell factory overclocked systems even with 1.5-1.6V clocked QX9650. And also to overclock 45nm CPU just over 4GHz often needed about 1.5V. My E8500 works at 1.4V at 4GHz and at 1.5V at 4.2GHz on P5W. I think better to change to LGA1366 board this winter, then to change from old P5W revision to newer or to other X38 or similar board.

[Tamerlane]

Why you so afraid to set minimal 1.45V on 45nm CPU

Well, that depends. What temperatures do you (or would you) get under load with a E8400/E8500 at 4.0ghz and 1.45V if you are using a quiet CPU fan (1000-1500rpm)? I am guessing it gets pretty hot and might not be a workable configuration 24/7.

On the other hand, if people are getting 4.0ghz with default Vcore on the E8600, that might be feasible with a quiet air cooling solution.

[Yolanda]

I have Thermaltake BigTyphoon 120VX with fan at 1300rpm, which is rather quiet. All programs say wrong temperatures, some say about rather high about 70 *C, but ASUS Probe2 says about 30-40*C, I think it's true, copper tubes of cooler are not hot.

[Ragdd]

I have 2 x P5W DH Deluxe revision 1.04g.
My previous P5W DH Delxue were 1.03g revision.
I can set with the latest bios vcore manually between 1.7000V and 1.5250V.

So a E8600 will run on it?

[Tamerlane]

I have Thermaltake BigTyphoon 120VX with fan at 1300rpm, which is rather quiet. All programs say wrong temperatures, some say about rather high about 70 *C, but ASUS Probe2 says about 30-40*C, I think it's true, copper tubes of cooler are not hot.

Thanks for this info. Just to be sure I understand you: You have a CPU fan at 1300rpm air cooling your E8500 @ 4037GHz with 1.4V Vcore. And the higest temperatures you have seen, measured by the temp diode in the CPU core and under full Orthos load, are 70C? If so, do you remember which program (or could you try one of these): Real Temp, Core Temp?

[JimmyDDD]

For some reason whenever I have my usb cable plugged into my pc from my printer my pc takes an extra minute or two to boot, anyone know how to fix this thanks

[mikepaul]

Well, that depends. What temperatures do you (or would you) get under load with a E8400/E8500 at 4.0ghz and 1.45V if you are using a quiet CPU fan (1000-1500rpm)? I am guessing it gets pretty hot and might not be a workable configuration 24/7.

On the other hand, if people are getting 4.0ghz with default Vcore on the E8600, that might be feasible with a quiet air cooling solution.
I'm still wondering about the reliability of temperature sensing software on the 45nm CPUs. I have the Freezone Elite set to 24C yet my highest temp is 48C or so at idle. When I read reviews of the best air coolers, which normally aren't much better or worse than the Elite, they say 35C or so at idle.

I haven't had GREAT luck with any cooler, since during the summer the temps creep up. I don't want to run the A/C at 70F when 80F is just a touch more economical, but there are days I think about it.

I'm watching this discussion closely. I want to try getting at least stock speed out of the Q9450, but I'm not interested in destroying it in the process. The E6300 never needed more than AUTO vCore to get an extra 1Ghz, so I'd prefer that someone at ASUS fix the dang BIOS so it offers like 1.25V or 1.3V to EVERYBODY...

[markq4xprt]

guys up to how many sata port can you use in p5w dh?

it seems that i can only use
the 3 near the south bridge
and one ez raid on the right coz when i use both even i enable it on bios it doenst detect the one on the left
also i noticed the one near the processor is a little bit slow let say only 1-2mb/sec on the hdd tach but when i put the hdd on the other slot it goes upto 219+

[Ragdd]

I use 5 SATA harddisks in non raid (AHCI)
3 x Intel sata
1 x bottom right sata port
1 x Jmicron sata port

Intel E8600 support for P5W DH Deluxe BIOS support

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20080805003520750&board_id=1&model=P5W+DH+Deluxe&page=1&SLanguage=en-us

[mikepaul]

So has anyone tested the new BIOS for a 45nm vCore fix?...

[markq4xprt]

I use 5 SATA harddisks in non raid (AHCI)
3 x Intel sata
1 x bottom right sata port
1 x Jmicron sata port

Intel E8600 support for P5W DH Deluxe BIOS support

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20080805003520750&board_id=1&model=P5W+DH+Deluxe&page=1&SLanguage=en-us

i see you havent tried to test the one sata port near the processor?

also have anyone tried to use ez raid to run as raid 1 so i can add up my 2x320= 640g just to maxmize the sata port of the p5w dh, any suggestions?

[clavicle]

New bios-2801 has been released!
ftp://anonymous@ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/asus/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/P5W-DH-Deluxe-2801.zip

[h4nc0]

anyone tried 2801? any change?

[Yolanda]

I installed 2801, but can't see changes. Multiplier is steel not working on 45nm.

[Yolanda]

Thanks for this info. Just to be sure I understand you: You have a CPU fan at 1300rpm air cooling your E8500 @ 4037GHz with 1.4V Vcore. And the higest temperatures you have seen, measured by the temp diode in the CPU core and under full Orthos load, are 70C? If so, do you remember which program (or could you try one of these): Real Temp, Core Temp?

I test today at 4208MHz and 1.425V, Real Temp shows 65-70, CoreTemp always 10-15 above RealTemp. ASUS Probe2 maximum was about 40. Copper tubes and above CPU hot is something more than my hand. I think it's real 40 on CPU, core maybe only some degrees more.
My other system with A64 3400+, which shows same 60-70 temperatures, is very hot, than I touch Zalman copper tubes.

[Ragdd]

Jmicron port is the one next to processor.


i see you havent tried to test the one sata port near the processor?

also have anyone tried to use ez raid to run as raid 1 so i can add up my 2x320= 640g just to maxmize the sata port of the p5w dh, any suggestions?

[PaVi90]

Has anyone tried new BIOS 2801? XD :D

[Ragdd]

I installed the 2801 bios on both my Asus P5W DH Deluxe revision 1.04g.
Next week I have my E8600 CPU.
Nothing special with de 2801 bios, I don't overclock.

[PaVi90]

I installed the 2801 bios on both my Asus P5W DH Deluxe revision 1.04g.
Next week I have my E8600 CPU.
Nothing special with de 2801 bios, I don't overclock.
But are you able to set manual vcore (including low values)?

[Yolanda]

rev 1.04G able to set low Vcore in older BIOSes

[JimmyDDD]

Can anyone help me. For some reason whenever I have my usb cable plugged into my pc from my printer my pc takes an extra minute or two to boot or sometimes it does't boot it just keeps checking on the usb port, anyone know how to fix this thanks

[PaVi90]

Can anyone help me. For some reason whenever I have my usb cable plugged into my pc from my printer my pc takes an extra minute or two to boot or sometimes it does't boot it just keeps checking on the usb port, anyone know how to fix this thanks
Hi,
you should either turn off your printer (and turn it on after boot) or reduce "ide detect time" (or a setting like this...) from BIOS :)

[drillgr]

I was interested on buying the Q9450 but I saw here the vcore setting problem.

So I looked at my board revision which was 1.02g.

Then I went into the bios. Its version 2602. I entered the manual vcore settings and I discovered that I was able to select from 1.225v and above.

Look at the screenshot:

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/286/07082008gm7.jpg

So Im able to put a 45nm processor on?

[PaVi90]

I was interested on buying the Q9450 but I saw here the vcore setting problem.

So I looked at my board revision which was 1.02g.

Then I went into the bios. Its version 2602. I entered the manual vcore settings and I discovered that I was able to select from 1.225v and above.

Look at the screenshot:

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/286/07082008gm7.jpg

So Im able to put a 45nm processor on?

The vcore problem refers only to 45nm chips!

[drillgr]

Ah, so I m able to see voltages below 1.4 now with a 65nm prossecor but when I put a 45 the problem will appear?

[freeza]

I have an E8400 and am able to set voltages from 1.225 and above.

[Tamerlane]

I have an E8400 and am able to set voltages from 1.225 and above.

Then you are probably lucky enough to have one of the later revisions of the P5WDH. If you would like to confirm this, you could check your motherboard between the RAM slot and CPU. The revision number is usually printed below where it says ASUS P5W..

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Then you are probably lucky enough to have one of the later revisions of the P5WDH. If you would like to confirm this, you could check your motherboard between the RAM slot and CPU. The revision number is usually printed below where it says ASUS P5W..

Cpu-z reads it correctly to iirc :)

[Tamerlane]

Cpu-z reads it correctly to iirc :)

Hmm, I just tried Cpu-z 1.46 and for my 1.02g revision, it just shows 'revision 1.xx'. :(

[MacClipper]

Hmm, I just tried Cpu-z 1.46 and for my 1.02g revision, it just shows 'revision 1.xx'. :(
Turns out that mine is a 1.02G (but a later model with 1.85v vMCH) too, same report with CPU-Z ON BIOS 2801.

Don't have a 45nm to confirm if Vcore works properly with this 1.85v revision though. For now, 2801 seems working fine - S3 sleep/resume is OK too.

[PaVi90]

Ah, so I m able to see voltages below 1.4 now with a 65nm prossecor but when I put a 45 the problem will appear?
Probably yes

[mikepaul]

Ah, well, I guess since I have the 45nm problem I'll have to go ahead and flash to 2801 to see if it continues or not. I'll aim for Saturday.

The next motherboard will NOT make me pull the battery. Don't care what features I miss out on. Putting my foot down now...

[mikepaul]

I'm not getting anything but AUTO, no matter what I disable. I checked the manual but it's way out of date now: what's supposed to be disabled to get multiple vCore values to pick from?...

[Falkentyne]

Don't you have to set the cpu settings first, and then save and exit BIOS, before any manual settings become available? That's how I remember it always after every BIOS flash...

[mikepaul]

I thought I'd saved and exited several times, but now I go back and look and the manual range of vCore is available again but is still 1.45V through 1.7something.

Virtualization is also something you have to choose early after a flash: I can't touch it now.

So either the message about voltage problems isn't getting through, or they just think the early revisions have been replaced by now and refuse to support them properly. I'll have to call in to the folks who supplied BIOS chips before and see if they can transfer me to somebody who might help talk to the BIOS group...

[jdhaan]

I'm not getting anything but AUTO, no matter what I disable. I checked the manual but it's way out of date now: what's supposed to be disabled to get multiple vCore values to pick from?...

You sure you disabled the automatic fans? Forgot what its called, but there's an option to make the fan's rotate depending on the heat of the processor. It has to be off to change the cpu's voltage.

I always forget that one myself. ;)

[mikepaul]

Post above yours shows it finally did allow manual...

[Chrysalis]

guys I got a 8800gt a couple of weeks ago and noticed the slow bios problems others pointed out, I did some research over the last day or so and initially thought its because this board has pci-e 1.0a slots which apperently are not very compatible with the 8800gt pci-e 2.0 cards. My 3d performance is fine, 2d performance in windows seems slightly slower than my 7600gt was. But it seems there is some kind of generic problems with all the 8800s on this board in the bios? even the pci-e 1.0 versions. Its not a major problem just bit annoying browsing the bios feels like I am on a 386 but at least I can see the post now, before it was too fast as my tft doesnt adjust fast enough.

[jpmermoz]

hey guys, i have a 45nm processor (E7200) with a p5w dh deluxe rev 1.04g and i'm not able to modify the vcore, it just says AUTO, and nothing can be done :(
i've already tried all the posible solutions, i flashed the bios twice, from 2602 to 2704, and later 2801 :mad:
if someone find the solution please help!!
thanks!

[jpmermoz]

Ok, after a week talking with asus technical support, they answered me this:

The problem was notified to our engineers, please be patient until the fixed bios will be released, you'll be able to download it from the ASUS support website, thanks!

[mikepaul]

Ok, after a week talking with asus technical support, they answered me this:

The problem was notified to our engineers, please be patient until the fixed bios will be released, you'll be able to download it from the ASUS support website, thanks!
Yesterday's call to support was a waste, when they never called back. Hopefully this message really MEANS something. Thanks...

[mikepaul]

hey guys, i have a 45nm processor (E7200) with a p5w dh deluxe rev 1.04g and i'm not able to modify the vcore, it just says AUTO, and nothing can be done :(
i've already tried all the posible solutions, i flashed the bios twice, from 2602 to 2704, and later 2801 :mad:
if someone find the solution please help!!
thanks!
I ended up using the computer for most of the day before looking back at the BIOS showed manual voltages. Never did figure out if something I disabled did the trick...

[Falkentyne]

What shows manual voltages is making sure the speedstep stuff is disabled, and setting up the CPU configuration and saving/exiting BIOS at least once. You can never set manual voltages right after a BIOS flash, ever.

[jpmermoz]

What shows manual voltages is making sure the speedstep stuff is disabled, and setting up the CPU configuration and saving/exiting BIOS at least once. You can never set manual voltages right after a BIOS flash, ever.

Not all the processors have the speedstep option to disable or enable, for example, my e7200 doesn't..

[Yolanda]

45nm can't use speedstep technology on P5W. Maybe only in newer bioses.
To change CPU voltage try to clear CMOS by jumper, maybe after it, you will see Vcore options other then Auto.

[jpmermoz]

yolanda, could you be more specific? how do i clear CMOS by jumper??
everytime i flash the bios, there's an option to clear CMOS, but that didn't work :(
thanks!

[PaVi90]

yolanda, could you be more specific? how do i clear CMOS by jumper??
everytime i flash the bios, there's an option to clear CMOS, but that didn't work :(
thanks!
Hi,
you should try clearing CMOS moving the jumper on the motherboard. The P5W Manual will tell you how to do ;)

[teaday]

Hi!
You can try this tool RMClock utility here : http://cpu.rightmark.org/
My Q9450 under vista has a VCore V1.15 @ 2.66GHz with this tool. Speedstep works too.

[jpmermoz]

Hi,
you should try clearing CMOS moving the jumper on the motherboard. The P5W Manual will tell you how to do ;)

ok, i cleared the CMOS just as the p5w manual says, but i still can't change the vcore option :S

[jpmermoz]

Hi!
You can try this tool RMClock utility here : http://cpu.rightmark.org/
My Q9450 under vista has a VCore V1.15 @ 2.66GHz with this tool. Speedstep works too.

i downloaded the rm clock utility but i can't change vcore :S

[teaday]

Ok, that's too bad :-(
My P5W is a rev 1.03G

[Ragdd]

I have an Asus P5W Deluxe revision 1.4g with bios 2801.
CPU is an Intel E8600, running at stock speed with Zalman CNPS7700CU.
CPU fan at max speed.

My idle temps are 38° for both cores.
Messured with speedfan en Realtemp (latest versions)

Are these "normal" temps?

[jpmermoz]

I have an Asus P5W Deluxe revision 1.4g with bios 2801.
CPU is an Intel E8600, running at stock speed with Zalman CNPS7700CU.
CPU fan at max speed.

My idle temps are 38° for both cores.
Messured with speedfan en Realtemp (latest versions)

Are these "normal" temps?

I have those temps in my E7200 with stock cooler and stock speed.
I think it's normal

[Thewli]

Last day when I booted my computer, it didn't show any picture. Reset the BIOS helped, but now I can't change the vcore to get my old stable clock at 3.7GHz back. I tried, but whenever I change the vcore to anything else than auto there's no picture when I boot up. Any ideas or is something wrong with my mb? Is it possible the CPU have taken damage from long time with higher clock and vcore? The temps were alright, but maybe the vcore did some other damage?

[Phoenix_TT]

All, I now have a 8500 C0 stepping with 2801 BIOS. I'm experiencing the limited range of voltage options for the CPU (1.45 -1.70V). I have a 1.02G (1.65vmch version). I've also noticed that with 2801 in the section for selecting CPU options, multipliers etc, under 2801 it gets the multiplier info wrong, from memory displays a multiplier of 73 ?!? Anyone else notice this ?

Hopefully a later non-beta BIOS will fix these issues.

[mikepaul]

One thing's for sure: if more vCore isn't the resolution to the instability issue I have with the Q9450, I'll rethink my position on keeping this motherboard until I move on to a Nehalem CPU in a few years. It'll be hard to get a new MB with two IDE ports for my 4 devices, but maybe not impossible...

[radlord]

Does anybody use an aftermarket GPU cooler with this board? How have you plugged the cooler in?

I have an Akasa Vortexx Neo on my new 4850 which has a three-pin connector on it. Therefore I have to plug it in either into the PSU directly or to a P5W fan header.

I have it plugged into the 'CHA_1' connector at the moment, I've also tried PWR_2. Basically, 3d intensive stuff seems to crash after a few minutes when graphically intensive games are run. Speedfan doesn't seem to think the fan on the cooler is spinning up much, and judging by the sound this seems to be correct.

How can I get the cooler to spin up properly, as when I run GPU benchmarks, the temp just seems to go up and up :(

[anzial]

I'd say you got a faulty aftermarket cooler, I've had all fan connectors on the mobo populated (mostly by 120mm fans), and all fans worked properly.. It's possible you mobo is faulty but I'd try a different fan first ;)

[radlord]

Just tried it with another one of exactly the same kind (we bought two 4850s with these coolers attached off a guy who has upgraded to a 4870x2) and it's the same thing.

It just doesn't seem to have the grunt to spin the fans up to a decent enough speed to stop the cards getting hotter! This is plugged straight into the PSU - should this not mean the fans are on 100% all the time?

Apparently these are highly rated coolers for these cards as well :(

Why would they not seem to want to spin up when the card gets hotter? Is it because it's not plugged directly into the header on the GPU anymore or something? Or are these sorts of coolers just not supposed to work like that?

Man, I just upgraded to play Crysis better - and it runs beautifully until I get display corruption and everything crashes!

[radlord]

it just blue screened. Damn it.

[mikepaul]

Dumb question: are you using fan power ports that are controlled by the BIOS, where disabling the fan control would let them spin as fast as possible?...

[radlord]

cheers for the reply - at the moment the fan is plugged via the three pin to molex converter supplied with the fan into the PSU.

I did have it plugged into the P5W directly though, it seemed to have the same problem. I had the 'Q-Fan' controls for the fan header and 'AI Quiet' turned off in the BIOS :(

Graaah.

[anzial]

radlord, there are options for fan control in bios, don't remember what or where (don't have my p5w any more), but try turning them off and check in SpeedFan that they are at 100%. And of course, mobo wouldn't know that your videocard is overheating, it won't bump up the RPM on the coolers...

[PaVi90]

Hello,
has anyone a Q9450 on P5W? How does it work? :)

[mikepaul]

Hello,
has anyone a Q9450 on P5W? How does it work? :)
Underclocked, it works fine. Run it at normal 1333 speed and I believe you will have spontaneous reboots. Best guess: not enough voltage provided by Auto setting, and 1.45V which you could pick from manual settings is a touch too high.

At least, nobody seems to WANT to set it that high unless they have free replacement CPUs available...

[PaVi90]

Underclocked, it works fine. Run it at normal 1333 speed and I believe you will have spontaneous reboots. Best guess: not enough voltage provided by Auto setting, and 1.45V which you could pick from manual settings is a touch too high.

At least, nobody seems to WANT to set it that high unless they have free replacement CPUs available...

uhm... wich BIOS do you have currently? Is a C0 or C1 CPU?

[Yolanda]

You tried 1.45V, your quad stable or not? It's not so high, because real voltage will be about 1.41-1.42V.


About latest 2801 BIOS: my system becomes Unstable with it! It freezes about 2-3 times per night at FSB 425 and about 1-2 times in day at FSB 400, then I play 3D games. All tests (Prime, Linpack) are fine. But in game sometimes system crashes. I added voltage to CPU, loaded setup defaults, used more powerfull 600W power supply, but nothing helped. Then flash older 2704 bios and now everything is OK. Maybe it happens only with my config, I have Geforce 8800GTX, used 3 latest driver versions.

[mikepaul]

uhm... wich BIOS do you have currently? Is a C0 or C1 CPU?
Going on memory (will correct if needed): BIOS 2801. C1 stepping...

[mikepaul]

You tried 1.45V, your quad stable or not? It's not so high, because real voltage will be about 1.41-1.42V.
If I had another $300+ to throw at a replacement Q9450, I'd try 1.45V.

So far, I haven't had it...

[Yolanda]

Mm a lot of systems from brand manufactures uses QX9650 CPUs at 1.5-1.6V with factory overclock at ~4GHz.
So you only need normal cooling to cool additional heat power. However you have a warranty on CPU...

[mikepaul]

Mm a lot of systems from brand manufactures uses QX9650 CPUs at 1.5-1.6V with factory overclock at ~4GHz.
So you only need normal cooling to cool additional heat power. However you have a warranty on CPU...
I Googled and found some posts where 1.45V is the max for a Q9450, while others said 1.35V or so was as far as it should go.

I tend to run my PC maybe 14 hours a day on work days, so I'm not SURE that the Freezone Elite will compensate enough for the overvoltage to keep the CPU going for the next few years.

And I don't think the warranty covers setting the voltage too high...

[radlord]

can we expect a BIOS update to get Speedstep working on 45nm then, or is it technically not possible?

[tomcug]

I've just installed E7200 and so far it works great. I'd like to ask you what's the maximum safe voltage. About that Q9450 stability issues, you can try 1,45V just for a few minutes of testing. I'm sure that your CPU won't die. Intel doesn't make any troubles when it comes to RMA.

[maven]

There are two aspects of changing settings on any board; hardware and software. The hardware must first be capable of selecting a finite range of values and then the Bios must be written to allow each of those values to be chosen. I have a rev. 1.03g board, (and an e6700) have tried several bios(s) and have always had the minimum vcore range of 1.225 V. I think someone on this board reported Rev. 1.02g also allowed a < 1.45V selection. The question is - what do versions prior to 1.02g allow. If it's truly a hardware issue, then a new Bios is not the solution.

[Yolanda]

You have 1.225V with 65nm CPU, but with 45nm CPU only Auto (nominal) and 1.45 and higher can be selected.

[Yolanda]

I've just installed E7200 and so far it works great. I'd like to ask you what's the maximum safe voltage. About that Q9450 stability issues, you can try 1,45V just for a few minutes of testing. I'm sure that your CPU won't die. Intel doesn't make any troubles when it comes to RMA.

Always was a unwritten rule in overclocking, what voltage can be rised upto 10-15% above nominal without troubles :) So nominal is 1.225-1.25V and you can set to ~1.4V.

[tomcug]

Always was a unwritten rule in overclocking, what voltage can be rised upto 10-15% above nominal without troubles :) So nominal is 1.225-1.25V and you can set to ~1.4V.

Yolanda, thanks for your answer. At the moment I'm running my CPU at 3,8GHz and 1,36V. I'll try to reach 4GHz tomorrow. P5W DH Deluxe is really an awesome motherboard and I'll keep it until Nehalem :).

[Tamerlane]

Yolanda, thanks for your answer. At the moment I'm running my CPU at 3,8GHz and 1,36V. I'll try to reach 4GHz tomorrow. P5W DH Deluxe is really an awesome motherboard and I'll keep it until Nehalem :).

Nice. I take it you have a 1.04 revision of the P5WDH?

[tomcug]

Nice. I take it you have a 1.04 revision of the P5WDH?

That's right, my motherboard's revision is 1.04G.

[anzial]

Yolanda, thanks for your answer. At the moment I'm running my CPU at 3,8GHz and 1,36V. I'll try to reach 4GHz tomorrow. P5W DH Deluxe is really an awesome motherboard and I'll keep it until Nehalem :).

Did you get ur e7200 to run at 4ghz yet? What FSB is needed to get there?

[tomcug]

Did you get ur e7200 to run at 4ghz yet? What FSB is needed to get there?

Yes, I managed to overclock my E7200 to 4GHz. I had to increase FSB speed to 421MHz to reach that frequency. Right now I'm not sure if it's fully stable, but I'll check it soon.

[Yolanda]

421FSB required to get 4GHz on E7200 and E8500. But only from 423FSB BIOS will print at startup about your nice "4.01GHz" :)

[anzial]

Could never get much over 400mhz on my board... dunno why

[tomcug]

Could never get much over 400mhz on my board... dunno why

I had to increase FSB Termination Voltage to 1,3V and NB Voltage to 1,65V to reach frequencies over 400MHz.

[Yolanda]

However 45nms need large voltage boost to get to 4GHz and over.
My E8500 works at 4GHz at 1.4V, at 4.2GHz at 1.5V, but 3.85GHz requires only 1.32V.

Try to test by Linpack, Prime heat 4GHz CPU upto 70-75 by RealTemp, but Linpack get upto 85-88...And it's really hot, ASUS Pcprobe reports about 60 degrees at this state.

[tomcug]

However 45nms need large voltage boost to get to 4GHz and over.
My E8500 works at 4GHz at 1.4V, at 4.2GHz at 1.5V, but 3.85GHz requires only 1.32V.

That's right. That's why I'm usually running my CPU at 3,8GHz. I'm running it at 4GHz only for benching.

[anzial]

I'm have watercooling, so CPU temps were never my problem. Mobo just didn't like going over 400mhz

[tomcug]

I'm have watercooling, so CPU temps were never my problem. Mobo just didn't like going over 400mhz

You have to increase FSB Termination Voltage and NB Voltage. It helped in my case.

[anzial]

You have to increase FSB Termination Voltage and NB Voltage. It helped in my case.

I did that to get to 400mhz... anyways, I don't have that mobo any more, so it doesn't matter much now :)

[cherrypik]

I just picked up a Q6600. If my bios is already up-to-date what steps do I have to take to upgrade from a e6600 to a q6600 on Vista Home Premium? Do I have to reinstall or can I just replace the processor?

[anzial]

You might have to reactivate vista but that's about it. CPU will be automatically recognized by windows, there are no special drivers fo Q6600

[radlord]

does anyone with a 45nm proc have EIST still available in the BIOS?

[cherrypik]

Thanks guys. I have my new Q6600 OC'd at 3.10 with 1.325 volts I haven't done any stress testing yet but was wondering what kind of differences would I see between 800mhz memory at 5-5-5-15 ratio 5:4 and 667 mhz memory at 4-4-4-13 ratio 1:1?

Also, the temps look to be pretty good in the low 40s.

[tomcug]

Guys, I've got some troubles and I really need your help. Despite the fact that my CPU is rock stable at 3,8GHz, memory controller is unstable at that 400MHz. Maybe I should install 40mm fan at stock cooler. I don't think it's caused by too small MCH voltage, because raising it doesn't help. I'm pretty sure that my motherboard is simply overheating.

[Ragdd]

About 8X00 C2D CPU and P5W DH Deluxe motherboards with EIST issue:
Found on Asus Forum
http://support.asus.com:80/faq/faq.aspx?no=FC9BB15B-4026-8C38-E70B-5F8845FAF95D&SLanguage=en-us

Problem

I notice that this motherboard starts to support Intel E8000 series CPUs since BIOS version 2704, so I then upgraded BIOS to this version. My E8300 CPU runs well, however, neither EIST nor C1E function is shown in the BIOS, which according to Intel's website is supported by this CPU. How do I fix this problem?

Answer

P5W DH Deluxe is based on Intel X975 chipset, which limits FSB at 800MHz. With ASUS unique overclock technology, this motherboard is able to be running at FSB 1066MHz. When Intel launched FSB 1333MHz CPUs, we once again overclocked FSB to 1333MHz to support them. However, considering system stability, we do not support FSB and multiplier modification upon 1333MHz FSB platform. That's why EIST and C1E functions are disabled on your PC.

[MacClipper]

we do not support FSB and multiplier modification upon 1333MHz FSB platform. That's why EIST and C1E functions are disabled on your PC.
Tried out the E5200 on my 1.02G 1.85v MCH mobo and lowest manual Vcore is also 1.45v, looks like proper 45nm support badly needs a new improved BIOS from Asus. :(

[tomcug]

I've just fixed my issue with memory controller :). I've changed timings to 4-4-4-12-5 and I've raised MCH voltage to 1,65V and memory voltage to 2,2V. Now my system is rock stable :).

[freeza]

I've just fixed my issue with memory controller :). I've changed timings to 4-4-4-12-5 and I've raised MCH voltage to 1,65V and memory voltage to 2,2V. Now my system is rock stable :).

How much memory do you have, and what brand is it?

[tomcug]

I've done some more accurate testing and it seems that I only had to increase memory voltage to 2.05V. My memory is 2x1GB Team Group Xtreem Dark 800MHz CL4.

[mikepaul]

Tried out the E5200 on my 1.02G 1.85v MCH mobo and lowest manual Vcore is also 1.45v, looks like proper 45nm support badly needs a new improved BIOS from Asus. :(
Does anyone know how to get the attention of whoever writes the FAQ? If we all Asked the same Question Frequently enough, they might bother putting out an answer as to why they mistreat the owners of older versions of the DH Deluxe...

[anzial]

I seriously doubt you gonna get any decent support for P5W DH, it's too old from ASUS's point of view, too few users that try this 3-year old tech with the latest and the greatest CPUs.

[MacClipper]

The current state of E5200 support is most unfortunate cos the 12.5x multiplier equipped E5200 is a great cheap CPU to pair with the similarly FSB impaired P5W, lots of multipliers to play with.

[tktnuri]

Been a awhile but I have a new question. I searched but couldn't find an answer. I found a Q9550 for $328 and wanted to know if it'd be worth it to use with the p5 w dh or should I just build a new system. Is it a hassle to fine tune the quad cpus with this board?

The board is going strong but I have noticed a lot more slow downs when multitaksing with Office 07, Photoshop, Browser and a Music running at the same time. If I have a folder with my photos and it set to Thumbnails it really messes with video performane or audio sound. I figured a new processor and change the RAM timings may fix it.

[mikepaul]

Been a awhile but I have a new question. I searched but couldn't find an answer. I found a Q9550 for $328 and wanted to know if it'd be worth it to use with the p5 w dh or should I just build a new system. Is it a hassle to fine tune the quad cpus with this board?

The board is going strong but I have noticed a lot more slow downs when multitaksing with Office 07, Photoshop, Browser and a Music running at the same time. If I have a folder with my photos and it set to Thumbnails it really messes with video performane or audio sound. I figured a new processor and change the RAM timings may fix it.
I'd have to say you should expect hassles with the P5W and a 45nm CPU if your MB is older, but you should try it if you don't really want a new MB. If it fails to work right like my Q9450, you'll have had the time to scope out the new equipment...

[irfs]

Do you have any info precisely which is the earliest revision that allows proper low Vcore control for 45nm CPUs? Seen it mentioned a few times in passing but no one has come up with definite answers even in this most comprehensive thread.

Think mine is a 1.03G but still using 2406 BIOS, wondering if it is worth trying a 45nm (and flashing the lattest BIOS).

Same boat as you running Rev1.03g e6600@3.6ghz for over a year now. wouldnt mind a Q9550 i called Asus in UK and asked if Q9450 would work on rev 1.03g they called me back after a few hours and said YES.

Q9550 Latest bios 2801

[TrancëJay]

Any idea if I can use Q8200 in this mobo?

[anzial]

you can try, and it'll prolly work, just don't expect any overclocks with this setup. 975 is getting old...

[JimmyDDD]

I was wondering if anyone can assist me with my motherboard problem. I recently tried updating my bios with the asus update tool for windows to the latest build of the asus bios for my
P5w-DH Deluxe motherboard. But the problem is when my pc boots right now it says Block compatible version .035 searching for bios, I thought this has crashfree bios 3, so I inputted my
support cd b ut it tells me it can't find cdrom drive so i insert the latest build of the bios and put it in a usb flash drive then the computer reads the P5WDH.rom file but then
it says searching usb device again, it just keep searching and searching then it searches cdrom drive then floppy. anyone got any advice what to do or how to resolve this thanks

[Yolanda]

Write p5wdh.rom bios file on floppy and try.

[tomcug]

Yolanda, why are you running your memories at 5-6-6-18 timings? Did you have to enable SPD timings in BIOS for these clocks to be stable?

[Yolanda]

Yes, by SPD. If I set anything not by SPD, system can't even boot to BIOS :)

[firestarter.pt]

Yolanda, I have the same issue. I need SPD to boot @ 400 fsb.
I'm planning buying an E8600 and I would love to run it @ 4 ghz but right now I'm unable to achieve rock solid stability with my old E6600 @ 400 fsb (using a lower multiplier)...

Could you please share with us what settings and voltages do you use?
(FSB Termination, ICH, etc. ?)

Thanks!

[Marvin_The_Martian]

:poke: memset ;)

[tomcug]

Yolanda, I have the same issue. I need SPD to boot @ 400 fsb.
I'm planning buying an E8600 and I would love to run it @ 4 ghz but right now I'm unable to achieve rock solid stability with my old E6600 @ 400 fsb (using a lower multiplier)...

Could you please share with us what settings and voltages do you use?
(FSB Termination, ICH, etc. ?)

Thanks!

These are my voltages:

FSB Termination Voltage: 1.3V
MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.65V
ICH Chipset Voltage: 1.05V

I'm also using custom timings, but trying to boot at speeds over 400MHz is always a failure. In that case I have to use SPD timings.

[Yolanda]

At 400FSB I use all voltages at Auto except CPU, HyperPath3 Disabled, Timings by SPD, PCI to 33.33, PCI-EX to 100 (but they also can be set to Auto), Perfomance Mode to Turbo. CPU Thermal Option and Memory Throttling to Disabled (but they can be Enabled, can't see difference), PEG Link, Latency and Slot Power to Normal.
At 421-423FSB I set MCH to 1.65V and also increase CPU voltage from 1.33 to 1.425V.

[tomcug]

Yolanda, did you notice any performance improvements with Performance Mode set to Turbo?

[Yolanda]

No, I think it maybe now change some timings or other settings only in Auto Overlocking. However then I have 65 nm CPU and old 22XX-24XX Bios, it speeds up SuperPI result for severel percents, now I can't see any diiffrence, but what is way I use Turbo from that times, and without Turbo I can't also get higher overclocking.

[Falkentyne]

I'm almost SURE That Turbo changes some settings if everything is set to auto.

On the old BX chipset, Turbo and F1 and Speedracer, besides standard, were the settings available, and each one affected certain subtimings that you couldn't change manually. But those worked with manual cas latency settings; setting F1 stopped my board from booting at any higher FSB. Pretty sure Turbo does something similar here; maybe related to auto settings, probably unimportant. I never saw any difference with a 65nm cpu, at least with 1M spi....

[firestarter.pt]

Thank you all for your input. Now I can boot with no problems @ 400 fsb and it seems stable but it's still early to say if it's 101% or not :)

Do you think this MB can be rock stable @ 400 fsb with a E8600 for 24/7 usage? Or shall I wait a bit more and then upgrade both MB and CPU at the same time?

[tomcug]

Can't say why it wouldn't be stable with E8600. I'm running my board at 400MHz with E7200 and I've never experienced any problems. My board was stable even at 450MHz, but I can't say the same about CPU :) It's still fast and great board. I want to buy second HD 4850 and CrossFireX both cards. What do you think about it? I usually play at 1600x1200.

[MaximumPig]

Yolanda I have a question, I did the math on your FSB and CPU speeds and it sure looks like you are using a 9.5 multiplier on your e8500. I too have an E8500 in a P5W DH, and under CPU ratio I can't go above 9. I am using BIOS 2801 and thus far have only OCed to 367 FSB = 3.3 gHz CPU @ 9x. Did I miss something in the BIOS or do I need 2704 like you have?

PS: I have 1.04g and I can set vCore to < 1.45 (I think as low as 1.8v but not sure at the moment, low enough though)

[tomcug]

Just disable CPU ratio modification in BIOS and you'll get the 9.5 multiplier.

[Yolanda]

Sure, disable CPU ratio modification or simply load setup defaults, and E8500 will work on it's nominal 333FSB * 9.5 = 3.16GHz.

But how you can change CPU ratio on non-extreme 45nm CPU? P5W doesn't support EIST on them and so CPU ratio modification can't work. If I choose anything from 6 to 9, system even can't boot to BIOS, and I should reset board by CMOS clear jumper.

[MaximumPig]

hmmm i have ratio modification disabled and it still shows up as 9x. also, the POST message is misreporting my cpu freq as "432mHz" (but CPU-z reports it correctly, or at least what I was expecting) so I'm going to reset my CMOS and try again . . .


I thought you couldn't unlock the multis on non-X cpus and in any event Asus won't support different multis on this board at the FSB speeds needed to run the 45nm CPUs ??

[esuyengh]

I searched and could not find an answer to this (on other sites too), so I apologize in advance if someone has answered this.

I recently replaced an e6600 with a q6600. My old e6600 was able to do 400x8 with a little extra juice (1.4v). The q6600 shows potential, currently running rock solid at 333x9 at stock (1.28v) with my 4gb dual channel sticks at tight 4,4,4,12 timings at 1:1. Unfortunately, I cannot even get close to 400 fsb because I cannot get the multiplier to change, meaning my DDR2-800 RAM is running at DDR2-667 instead.

I can set it down to 8 and save the changes to the bios, but as soon as it reboots, it resets back to 9. I strongly suspect it as an issue with the bios because I AM able to drop the multiplier to 8 if I leave the fsb at 266 (i.e. I can boot at 266x8 and have it stick), proving my CPU can accept a lower multiplier. As soon as I raise the fsb past 266, I get the multiplier issue where it self-resets to 9.

After doing a lot of research for a week and seeing some sites where members claim that any bios versions past 1707 have issues with dropping the multiplier, I tried flashing to 1707. Unfortunately, since I have a more recent rev. g0 of the q6600, 1707 does not recognize the CPU and gives me a microcode violation. I can go past that, but that issue is annoying itself.

So I tried bios versions past that included 2206, 2704 and 2801, with no luck.

I have all the fix settings suggested throughout this thread otherwise (i.e. look on the very first post, and it is a mirror image of what my bios are set to). So I am not sure what else could be the issue other than bios itself.

Am I out of luck?

[tomcug]

I don't know why you want to go down with multiplier. If you don't want to overclock your CPU to higher frequencies, then simply leave it at 9x. You can set your memories to run at 834MHz.

[esuyengh]

I am trying to overclock to clarify.

If I go down to 8x, I might be able to run at 400x8 at a relative low vCore, at least that is the goal. Then I have greater fsb bandwidth, a higher overall clock of 3.2 GHz, and can run my memory at 1:1 at 800MHz. Right now I am stuck at 333x9 (3.0 GHz) with memory at 667MHz (I know my 9x multiplier wall is somewhere around 350 fsb as I could boot into windows at 360 but was not prime stable).

I highly doubt my memory can go too far past its 800MHz rating as it is a set of Corsair 2x2GB CL4 DHX, which are known to be a bit sensitive.

[lawrywild]

8x multi is likely to hit a worse fsb than default multi..

[Yolanda]

Our board overclocks with dual cores upto ~400+ and something more by FSB, but with quad cores overclock is much lower. So 333*9=3GHz is rather nice. Tried to set memory to 834MHz with your FSB333? Сan it work? Or can work with lower timings? because usually higher memory frequirency is better than timings.

After it, you can overclock from 333FSB to ~340-360, and get extra MHz, and also get extra MHz to your memory. If memory can run only at 667MHz with 333FSB higher overclocking will also overclock memory to 680-720MHz, not so bad.

[esuyengh]

Lawrywild, why do you say that? Just curious? I mean from what I have done with my old dual core e6600, 400x8 was way better than the 350(ish)x9 that I could get both in terms of final frequency and in terms of the few benchmarks I ran at that time. I know I am working with a quad now, but I just find my problem odd. My issue is not with the chip itself, but why on earth does the motherboard reset my multiplier. It gives me the option to lower it, but then it won't stick.

Yolanda, thanks for the suggestions. That is my plan if I cannot figure out what is with the multiplier. As just stated, I am confused why it allows me to lower the multiplier but won't stick unless the fsb stays at stock. To me that is a bios flaw, not a board or chip flaw, which is frustrating, since that means Asus dropped the ball somewhere and is probably not going to fix it.

Anyone here have experience with the p35 based Asus P5K-EPU (or alternatively the P5K-Deluxe)? Do those have the same multiplier issue? I might be able to get an EPU for cheap or even free, or a Deluxe for just a few bucks. But I am reluctant to replace an otherwise great board over a bios issue.

[mikepaul]

OK, I was reading about Real Temp 2.70 today and decided to try it. It reads 10C lower than Core Temp with no tweaks, and I never tweaked Core Temp either.

I like it saying 39C instead of 49C, but is that valid?...

[ntvh]

Please help, System won't post because turn the OC too high after upgrade BIOS (2801). Please help me to resolve this without to use CLRTC...because I don't want to remove my Video card GTX 8800. Is there any ontherway to bring back the system?

In the Menu book's ASUS, it said I can use C.P.R ( CPU Parameter Recall) But I don't know how to use that function. Please Please help me. Thanks very much. I'm killing myself.:shakes:

[tomcug]

Ntvh, load BIOS default setting by using CMOS jumper. You'll find instructions in your motherboard's manual.

[ntvh]

Thank, IS there otherway by not remove that jumper CMOS because to do that I have to remove the Graphic card on the its way. Is there easy way than to remove CMOS? Thank again. and this is for what I read from the user guide on page 2-26
" You do not need to clear the RTC when the system hangs due to OC. For system fail due to OC, use the C.P.R. (CPU Parameter Recall) feature. Shut down and reboot the system so the BIOS can AOtu reset parameter setting to default values "

How, where???

Thanks

[tomcug]

If you overclock too much and your system doesn't boot up, then you have to simply cut the power. After few minutes you turn on your computer and it'll run at stock settings.

[Yolanda]

If it can't help, you should reset BIOS by CMOS clear jumper. Why you can't do it? You don't need to remove your 8800GTX from the case to make it.

[ntvh]

i tried not to remove but it on the way. I could not touch it..so have to remove the card. Anyway, it is done, now it is running 3.5 @ 390 with the DDR at 983. Will try to push it to 400. Thank you for all of your help:D

BTW: never can set the Multi to 9.5. Any suggestion. THX

[MaximumPig]

yeah i cleared my CMOS and set CPU ratio modify to disabled and don't have the 9.5 multi
i am running at 367 FSB with 9x and 734mHz DDR and things seem to be running ok otherwise

my BIOS is 2801, i am wondering if I should try 2704 since I think that is what Yolanda is using to get 9.5x, unless there is some other trick I'm missing

[tomcug]

MaximumPig, I've got E7200 which has 9.5x multiplier too and I don't have any problems with it and BIOS 2801. Post a CPU-Z screenshot.

[ntvh]

here is my picture of CPU- Z. Thanks

[tomcug]

Ntvh, you won't set 9.5x multiplier with E8400. Your CPU has its multiplier locked at 9x.

[ntvh]

Thank you SIR.

[ntvh]

Yolanda, What can I do to OC the CPU to 4.GHZ? Please help.

Here is my set
Bios 2801 ( should I go back to 2701?
MAX CPU Freq: 378
DDram: 978
Perform Mode: Auto
PCI Express: Auto
PCI Clock Syn Auto
Mem Voltage: 2.00v
CPU Volt : AUto
FSB Term : Auto
MCH Chips Set: 1.64v
ICH : Auto
Digital...: Disable
C1E: Disable
EIST: Disable

If you need any info please ask. Thanks

[Yolanda]

You need FSB 445MHz to get 4GHz with E8400. Try to set MCH voltage first to 1.75V, then if it can't help, to 1.85V. CPU voltage to ~1.4-1.45V. Later add FSB voltage if nothing is help. RAM speed to lowest mode, because it can limit overclock at first tryes. However 1.85V on MCH is rather dangerous for 24/7 without extra cooling.

First, I advice you not to try such high overclocking, but to test only FSB 400MHz with memory at 800MHz (FSB:RAM = 1:1). Your CPU will work at 3.6GHz, it's rather fast. This frequirency needs only to add CPU voltage a bit.
After test something with FSB ~410-420. There setups are ready for 24/7.

[ntvh]

Thank you and Thank you very much. Will try right now.:clap::clap:

[mw818]

Greetings!
I am new to over clocking, and setting up manual values in motherboards, for years i've been a simple system builder with no reason to over clock. It's time for me to upgrade my rig but unfortunately it's not possible for me to upgrade everything at this time.

I have a P5W-DH rev 1.02g
Does this board support 45nm technology?
If so, both dual and quad cores?

I was looking at a E8500 but might make the jump to a Q9400 for a longer life.

Also, I am new to setting values to bios settings / overclocking, i've always just set everything to auto. Is there an informative post where i can learn what to set the values to?

Thank you!

-Mike

[tomcug]

Mw818, your board supports all 45nm CPUs. But you won't be able to set CPU voltage below 1,45V. Only Rev 1.04G supports voltages lower than 1,45V with 45nm CPUs. Ntvh, setting MCH voltage to 1,75V is more than enough to reach 445MHz. My board reached 450MHz with this voltage.

[mw818]

thanks for the reply tom, do you know how the lack of those voltages will affect me// what does that mean? sorry, very new here. Thanks, Mike

[MaximumPig]

first i would like to say that the ppl in this thread probably know more about this board than ppl at ASUS do.


with that out of the way, here is my CPU-z

http://www.angrypedestrian.com/Untitled-1.jpg

9.0 multi :down:

[tomcug]

Mike, if you set 1,45V in BIOS, you'll get 1,41V under load, which is quite safe for those 45nm CPUs. If you have good cooling, then you don't have to worry about this. I think you can reach 4GHz at this voltage using E8500. MaximumPig, it's quite strange. Try downgrading your BIOS to 2704 revision.

[jpmermoz]

Mike, if you set 1,45V in BIOS, you'll get 1,41V under load, which is quite safe for those 45nm CPUs. If you have good cooling, then you don't have to worry about this. I think you can reach 4GHz at this voltage using E8500. MaximumPig, it's quite strange. Try downgrading your BIOS to 2704 revision.

Hi tomcug, please could you tell me how did you change vcore?
I have a p5w dh deluxe 1.04g motherboard, bios 2801, and processor e7200 2.53ghz.
I've already tried clearing CMOS but nothing happend, and I tried with bios 2704 too :(
When I go to Jumper Settings, it says "VCORE: AUTO" and I can't change it!
Here's a photo:

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/9034/dsc03090ag5.th.jpg (http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03090ag5.jpg)

Thanks man :up:

[tomcug]

Jpmermoz, I simply entered BIOS after installing E7200 and saved settigns. After that I could change CPU voltage. You problem is somehow strange. Try downgrading BIOS to 2602 revision which doesn't officially support E7200 and removing CMOS battery for few minutes. I think that should help you. Could you also post a photo from CPU Settings section in your BIOS?

[Yolanda]

I had sometimes such strange thing, that BIOS allow to set CPU Vcore only to Auto, it happens only after CMOS clearing or flashing new BIOS. Simply save settings in BIOS helps, and after second BIOS load, I can set my Vcore.

[jpmermoz]

How can I downgrade BIOS to 2602?? Once I tried to do that but to version 2701, and I couldn't..
Should I use ASUS Flash Utility? Afudos?
And there won't be no problem after doing that right?
Here's the CPU Settings photo:

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/6169/dsc03334vb2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[MaximumPig]

my latest CPU-z:

http://angrypedestrian.com/Untitled-2.jpg

:up:

In order to get the 9.5 multi I switched to 2704 but that didn't do it. Then I cleared CMOS by not just using the jumper but also removing the battery, and then I had the 9.5 multi.

so I would recommend that anyone having problems --- remove the cmos battery and also use the jumper to be sure all the bios settings are cleared out. I suspect I could have gotten 9.5x with 2801 if I had cleared the CMOS and battery first before flashing back to 2704.

I can't seem to get stable above 367 fsb probably because I have 4 sticks of mediocre memory, 4x1GB of Corsair Twin2x2048-6400C4D

what type of CPU volts should I need to hit 400? 1.45 or so?

[markq4xprt]

have anyone encountered this problem?

in vista ultimate im transfering files from one hdd to another both are 1tb 32mbcache

it just takes long on the calculating time remaining when moving files from the 1tb to another hence it should not be like that since im only transfering 1g of file


things ive done

tested all drives in xp and all are ok
netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled - doesnt improve
Remote Differential Compression - doesnt improve

im using bios 2801
e6420 oc`ed to 3ghz
2x1g ddr2 800 team dark rams




seagate 320 16mb sata - vista os

seagate 750 32mb sata - files
seagate 1tb 32mb sata - files
seagate 1tb 32mb sata - files
seagate 320g 16mb ide - files
wd 320g ide 16mb- files
ibm 80g ide - xp back up os

[mw818]

Well I made a jump today and bought an E8500 with E0 stepping

here is an SS of my cpu-z

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc136/mw818/comp/ss.jpg

For the cooler i am using a ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED

I would like to overclock this PC, however i'm very new to overclocking. Anybody have some info i can read to educate myself? (basically what to tinker with, and how to test if its stable)

thanks!

[tomcug]

Mike, I see you bought a new CPU :). E8500 with E0 stepping is very good for overclocking so you should be able to overclock it to 3,9-4GHz at stock voltage. You should start with those settings:
CPU Frequency: 400MHz
DRAM Frequency: 800MHz
Performance Mode: Auto
PCI Express Frequency: 100MHz
PCI Clock Synchronization Mode: 33.33MHz
Memory Voltage: 2V
CPU VCore Voltage: Auto
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.3V
MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.65V
ICH Chipset Voltage: 1.05V
This will give you 3,8GHz and those settings should be stable with stock voltage. Don't forget to enable SPD Timings in BIOS, because your system won't be stable without that. You can use ORTHOS to test your system's stability. If those settigns will be stable, then you can try overclocking a bit more.

Jpmermoz, use ASUS Flash Utility in BIOS to downgrade to 2602 revision.

[jpmermoz]

Tom, I've downgraded to 2602, and cleared CMOS, but i'm still having the problem :(
Do you know any other possible solution?
Thanks

[MaximumPig]

did you remove your cmos battery and flip the jumper at the same time?

[tomcug]

You can also try this:

VCore only option Auto - EITHER Flash using AFUDOS and the tags "afudos /i****.rom /p /b /n /c" (without quotes) , then clear cmos as the manual describes [Credit - OPB] OR Disable Speedstep and Enhanced C1 Control in the Cpu Configuration section of the BIOS. [Credit - DjLeco]

[mw818]

Hey Tom,

Thank you!

I set those settings in the bios and now here is what my CPU-Z looks like

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc136/mw818/comp/9-28-08.jpg

Looking at my voltage is everything OK?

Also I did set SPD to ENABLED it looks like this:

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc136/mw818/comp/9-28-08-mem.jpg

I do have 4-4-4-12 ddr800 dual channel, why would SPD slow it down?
Sorry, i'm very new!

Also, What programs would you recommend to control my fans? I would like to have it software side and not bios side, i'm assuming its better because it's customizable

Thanks Tom! You're a HUGE HELP!

edit:
i forgot to mention i have a 450w power supply
and im running bios version 2801

[tomcug]

Mike, if you set SPD timings, then you always get 5-6-6-18 timings. But you have to do that, because our motherboards have some troubles with custom timings and FSB speeds exceeding 370MHz. For controlling fans speed I'm using Asus PC Probe II.

[jpmermoz]

did you remove your cmos battery and flip the jumper at the same time?

Yes I did..
and also i've tried with afudos just like tom says.
I miss my e4500 :(

[MaximumPig]

ack now i'm realizing that when my pc awakes from sleep the multiplier has dropped to 9
i don't suppose anyone knows a workaround or fix? This is with BIOS 2704 and E8500, Vista x64.

[tomcug]

I'm experiencing the same issue :). When my PC awakes from sleep mode, then multiplier drops to 9.0x. I don't think there is any fix available.

[mikepaul]

ack now i'm realizing that when my pc awakes from sleep the multiplier has dropped to 9
i don't suppose anyone knows a workaround or fix? This is with BIOS 2704 and E8500, Vista x64.
You could try not sleeping... :D

[ntvh]

Hi,

First of all, I would like to say Thanks you to all members who help / educate me about how to OC. You guys are the best.

Second, I 'm trying to make my CPU E6600 2.4GHz 1066mhz FSB to the max.

here is my data Welcome all suggestion
Bios ver = 2801
CPU Freq = 423
CPU Mhz = 3.80
Mem v = 1.80v
Dram freq = 635
MCI v = 1.85v
FSB term..= 1.30v

What can I do to make the temp from the" core temp " progarm goes low right now the temp are c0= 53 c, c1 = 52 c

With that temp if I load or use Nero to work on movie, the temp at core temp program show me like 67 c or 68 c. Then Shut down

Please help Thanks:up:

[armend]

Hey guy's, I don't know whether anybody has an similar problem, but..
I have an P5W DH Deluxe, E6600, 4 GB of Kingston 667, 2 WD 500 GB SATA2 disks in Raid 0, 1 DVD RW SATA drive, 550Wat PS unit, 5 more less regular coolers, now... whenever I'm trying to install the second DVD sata drive, in Bios this is recognized but when windows starts there is nothing, tried with updating bios, changing sata ports, install ide drive etc, nothing.
I tried the same thing in one of my friends PC, he has P5K Asus mobo, strange enough I had the same problem, when installing individually all the drives work fine, now I'm really confused, I suppose I'm missing something, don't know yet what.
So, if someone has encountered the same problem, could you please help, pleeeaaaseee, I'm really desperate to fix this issue.

Thanks in advance

[Yolanda]

Check, can be your DVD drive seen in Device Manager? Maybe it there, but haven't drive letter.
Also you can try to plug it to Jmicron SATA port.

[festipaul]

Hi
Have been reading with interest many of the posts whilst waiting to get my account validated, which has just been done, thanks!

So here's my problem (and lack of knowledge!) if anyone can help.

I an trying to upgrade from E6600 to E8500 CO on BIOS 2801.
BIOS recognises the new processor fine however on booting into Vista I get a BSOD. With these errors:
0X000000D, (0X00000000, X00000002,0X00000001, 0X8CE020c0)

What if any changes do I need to make from the default BIOS settings to avoid this, or do I need to reinstall Vista? Or should I be using another BIOS version like 2704?

thanks in advance

another noob :)

[G40RoCkEt]

Hi people!

I'm new here. My name is Miguel and i live in Portugal.

Well, i been reading lots of post to this interesting thread.

I have some problems to overclock my system. Here my system:

ASUS P5W DH DELUXE (bios 2801)
E8500
4 x 1GB OCZ DDR2 800 OPS EDITION
2 x WD320GB (AAKS) SINGLE PLATE IN RAID0
1 x WD 1TB GP
EVGA GTX280
PSU THERMALTAKE PURE POWER 680W

Well, i try some seetings (including Yolanda seetings) but no sucess to overclock my E8500.

To i can boot my pc, in the bios i defined:

FSB - 333
MEMORY - DDR834 (auto option)
MEM VOLTAGE - 2.00V (if i defined less, the windows was unstable)

Lnk to my memories:

http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr2_pc2_6400_special_ops_edition


I try all the seetings that i read in this thread and i cannot boot from the pc.

I change the bios and when i make SAVE BIOS AND EXIT, the pc don't start and no image to the screen. I have to do clear cmos.

I try with only 2 x ddr2 memory and not sucess to.

I try this too:

CPU Frequency: 400MHz
DRAM Frequency: 800MHz
Performance Mode: Auto
PCI Express Frequency: 100MHz
PCI Clock Synchronization Mode: 33.33MHz
Memory Voltage: 2V
CPU VCore Voltage: Auto
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.3V
MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.65V
ICH Chipset Voltage: 1.05V


NO SUCESS! PC DON'T BOOT AND NO IMAGE. Clear cmos is necessary. :down:


What a hell i have to do?

I only want to make this E8500 at 3.8ghz...

Sorry for my bad english and long text. I'm desesperated with this..

I hope that you people can help me there.

Thanks for everyone. :cool:

[graylinghunter]

i have a clock stable e6600@3.6mhz two years on good h20 system
looking to upgrade but retain this p5w dh board i have bios 2801 in situ

what quad cpu route is going to produce the best oc results mp4 rendering is part of the upgrade and some game play.
i want to retain the board as i often use hackintosh software on my spare drive and the p5wdh suits this mac software.
looking at a q9550 but cant find many posts on this set up
will the q9550 overclock with this mobo?
Most posts suggest this mobo has problems with any quad over 3.2mhz stable.
any advice welcome if my thoughts with current cpu are worth following.
thanks
graylinghunter

[anzial]

Forget about quads on this mobo

[graylinghunter]

What is its heal why are quad overclocks poor?

[anzial]

It's a great mobo but face it, it's long past its compatibility with the latest cpus. It was already old for overclocking conroes, not to mention wolfdales/yorkfields

[graylinghunter]

so if you were going to upgrade this cpu on this board what would be your choice?
I am not going for any records just treating myself to a new shiny cpu to get another couple of years from this rig

[armend]

Check, can be your DVD drive seen in Device Manager? Maybe it there, but haven't drive letter.
Also you can try to plug it to Jmicron SATA port.
I have checked, but it is not there, I have disabled jmicron controller
since I use Intel controller for raid 0, but nothing, strange can someone
at list confirm that they have more then 4 sata drives, be that HDD or
DVD installed on P5W DH mobo, or P5K.

thanks and cheers

[G40RoCkEt]

I have checked, but it is not there, I have disabled jmicron controller
since I use Intel controller for raid 0, but nothing, strange can someone
at list confirm that they have more then 4 sata drives, be that HDD or
DVD installed on P5W DH mobo, or P5K.

thanks and cheers

armend,

Use the DVD in the EZRAID SATA connectors (Orange).

I use my 3 HDD SATA drivers in the 3 avaliable sata ports (with RAID by intel chipset) + 1 dvd sata drive in the EZBACKUP Orange connector 1. Work perfectly. (you need remove the jumper too make the EZRAID BACKUP connector work like a sata connector normal.

[armend]

armend,

Use the DVD in the EZRAID SATA connectors (Orange).

I use my 3 HDD SATA drivers in the 3 avaliable sata ports (with RAID by intel chipset) + 1 dvd sata drive in the EZBACKUP Orange connector 1. Work perfectly. (you need remove the jumper too make the EZRAID BACKUP connector work like a sata connector normal.


Thanks a lot G40RoCkEt, will try when I go back at home, thanks
I don't know how did I miss that..

[bbbslayer]

hello everyone, p5w dh deluxe is a great mobo, and ai tech is amazing.

But i cannot use my ai suite now. When i open ai suite, there is a messagebox: you cannot get default frequency.The program seems to be dead, it eats up 50% cpu resource and does not work at all. what's wrong?

my system: vista32, bios 2801(newest), 2704, pcb version 1.02g, e2160 overclock 3g(333*9), but 200*9 also have the problem.

another problem: p5w autostarts when power is on, i cann't stop it, it is normal before, i just have a remote on usb 3, no one on usb 4.

sorry for my chinese english, thanks to everyone here ：）

[Korgan]

Forget about quads on this mobo

Unless you have a Xtreme with unlocked multi. I am using a QX6850@3,8Ghz stable.

[graylinghunter]

So what is the best oc i will get out of the p5wdh on current quads and duals
without any hardware mod to p5w board.
As i say I dont want to throw the board yet!
any help welcome the 4ghz e8500 clocks look great but what is the best quad result stable on the p5w thanks
GH

[G40RoCkEt]

Anyone to help me?

(please see my first post)

[anzial]

Anyone to help me?

(please see my first post)

You are for real? you expect someone to actually search for your first post that you are too lazy to repost or link? :rolleyes:

[G40RoCkEt]

You are for real? you expect someone to actually search for your first post that you are too lazy to repost or link? :rolleyes:

anzial,

My first post is in this thread page. ;)

[esuyengh]

Ok, I am resigned to my current OC with my q6600. But I seem to have a new problem.

I was testing NCQ with my 150GB Raptor, and now I seem to have occasional random system freezes. Like the hard disk light will go solid, and for one minute my computer will not respond. I am not sure of all the settings in the BIOS under AHCI, but I enabled all of the ones that seemed relevant based on definition. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Is one of those two settings that pop up once you enable AHCI problematic?

I searched and saw the closest similar symptom in this thread is that WIFI freeze, so I disabled the WIFI. I also read that it helps to enable "enable advanced performance" for the hard disk under the device manager properties. I have done both and have not had a freeze yet but am wondering if NCQ is flighty on this board.

Anyone else have any of these issues? Worst case I will turn off AHCI, but I have read of other P5WDH users enjoying their NCQ.

[ntvh]

Hi,

It kind of crazy when I turn my system on the screen only can allow me to move the mouse in 2 second then it freez. If I try to open any application it does the same thing. I have to wait for 4 hrs or may more than that to see my computer working nornal again. What is the cause of that Problem
All of this happen at Stock, My Bios 2601 after OC at 3.8

1- is iit my mem is gone or going to...

2- I c/o out two CPU- (A E8400, OC at 3.8 )and (E8500, run at stock) and start my Gig and it post the Blue screen come on and restart the whole thing again. What went wrong?

3- I go back to E8300, 2,4 GHz and run It is run seem OK , but have to wait for long time so my nouse can move.

4- OR OR My computer have virus or spyware?

What the cause of all these?

Please help. Thanks:confused::confused:

[ntvh]

Swap two new sticks Ram.....it still hunng for second the problem still there.

please help

[G40RoCkEt]

Hi again,

Here my screenshots of my bios:

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/8803/dsc01891jd9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/dsc01891jd9.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img387/dsc01891jd9.jpg/1/)
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/562/dsc01892hh4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/dsc01892hh4.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img80/dsc01892hh4.jpg/1/)

Well, i already try this:

CPU:400
DRAM: 800
CPU VOLTAGE: (i try AUTO and 1.45v **** THE BIOS DON'T LET ME DECIDED MORE LOWER THAN 1.45v... ONLY 1.45 UNTIL 7.00V)
PERFOR: AUTO
PCI FREQ.: 100
PCI CLOCK: 33.33
MEM VOLT.: (i try: AUTO, 1.8,1.9, 2.00, 2.1 and 2.2V)
FSB VOLT: 1.3V
MCH CHIPSET: (i try: 1.55V, 1.65v)
ICH CHIPSET: 1.05v

SPD ENABLED: 5-5-5-12 (default timmings)


After save in the bios, still no boot. Is necessary turn OFF the computer and turn ON again.

What a hell i have to do?

In my CPUZ my motherboard revision appears 1.xx

I downgrade to a 2704 bios.

Still no have boot.. I only want FSB400 and ddr 800 (1:1)

Someone with more help?

[ntvh]

Need help BADLY, After waiting for 6 HRs, My computer is seem run normal but when I turn on the Coretemp program...at the freq ..it show only 1.8Ghz? What is wrong? Is My MB is gone or the CPU is gone? Please help. Thanks

[Yolanda]

Run CPU-Z from www.cpuid.com to verify CPU freq. and all related settings.

[ntvh]

No Clue at all . I reload the whole system now is seem running fine, except when I turn on the emule program..my whole computer frooze. Don't know what is going on. Will report back for for info. Thanks

[G40RoCkEt]

Well, after many configuration, and a big thanks to my friend Tom, here my stable seetings :

With 4 x 1GB DDR2 800 the max that i can get is, 370FSB & DDR2 740Mhz:

CPU Frequency: 370MHz
DRAM Frequency: 740MHz
Performance Mode: Auto
PCI Express Frequency: 100MHz
PCI Clock Synchronization Mode: 33.33MHz
Memory Voltage: 1.8V
CPU VCore Voltage: Auto
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.3V
MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.65V
ICH Chipset Voltage: 1.05V
SPD - Enable (timmings - 5-6-6-18)



With 2 x 1GB DDR2 800 at least i can get , 380FSB & DDR2 760Mhz:

CPU Frequency: 370MHz
DRAM Frequency: 740MHz
Performance Mode: Auto
PCI Express Frequency: 100MHz
PCI Clock Synchronization Mode: 33.33MHz
Memory Voltage: 1.8V
CPU VCore Voltage: Auto
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.3V
MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.65V
ICH Chipset Voltage: 1.05V
SPD - Enable (timmings - 5-6-6-18)

Anyone with OCZ DDR2 800 OPS EDITION with manual timmings?


http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr2_pc2_6400_special_ops_edition


EDIT:

Anyone reach 380FSB with 4 stick memory? If yes, How?

[radlord]

Aye, I've got 4x1 gig sticks of GEiL DDR2-800 RAM, and it won't run at 800 mhz at all :( I've got a 400mhz FSB with my E8400 and I really want to run the RAM at its rated speed at 1:1 ratio :(

I was told earlier on in the thread that 975X has problems with 4 RAM slots being filled.

Using SPD timing doesn't help, nor does increasing the volts :(

[tomcug]

Yes, it's very difficult to run 4 sticks of memory at stock speeds. Not only 975X has such problems. Same problems happen with 650i or 680i with 4 memory slots filled.

[anzial]

Dunno. Mine ran fine with 4x1 sticks up to rated 1066 although it is possible that they prevented me from achieving FSB over 400

[uomenothing]

hi all

I have problems when trying to run 4 sticks of ram on the p5w. System is:

(p5w) - BIOS 2704
Intel e6600 stock with thermalright 120 ultra extreme
2x1G Corsair 6400C4
2x1G Crucial Balistix Tracer 6400
4x750 + 1x640 HDDs with various raid volumes
Digitalnow quattro s-t tv capture card
Creative Audigy 2 zs platinum
Coolermaster Real power 850W psu

Symptoms vary, but usually what happens is:
0. (computer is off - has been off for at least 15 minutes)
1. Turn on computer
2. Video card posts
3. You hear a single beep indicating normal post
3. Mobo hangs on post (you see the p5w splash graphic, but nothing happens - have waited for hours)

Other symptoms i have had include:
- no post at all - this only seems to happen when the crucial sticks are in the orange slots and the corsair sticks are in the black slots

Eventually i can make the mobo post and load the OS etc by LEAVING the computer frozen in post for at least 10 min (if I only leave it a short time, it doesn't tend to work) and then powering off and powering back on (reset doesn't seem to work at all). When the mobo does eventually post, it sometimes tells me that "overclocking has failed" and I have to go into the bios (changing nothing doesn't stop the OS loading next time), but at other times it just loads the operating system straight away. This procedure doesn't always work (ie. the computer won't always get to the OS on the second attempt), but eventually after enough powering off and powering on it will 'randomly' work.

The interesting thing is that once I have got into the OS, I can shut down the computer and it will always work first time if I try turning on the computer again after no more that 1 or 2 minutes. It is almost like the RAM needs to warm up!

How do I know this is caused by the RAM? I am not 100% certain, but here are a few points and questions:
1. If I use less than 4 sticks, the computer will always work first time.
2. I can get rid of the splash screen, and when I do this i see that the last thing shown in the printout is something about usb device detection. The next thing that should come up is the ram detection stage.
3. I usually run my ram at 2.2V 800mhz 4-4-4-12-4 - I am currently trying to run slower speeds and looser timings, but this doesn't seem to help. I haven't tried "default to spd".
4. I wonder whether the bios battery could be dying
5. I wonder whether this could be caused by a hardware incompatibility. I haven't actually gone to the length of pulling out all my expansion cards and trying to post with 1 hdd, vid card, and the 4 sticks of ram, but at various times I have had each of the cards out individually with no change.
6. PSU should be more than adequate - to ensure this i pulled out all power except mobo and still had issues.
7. bios memory setting?
8. could be a memory seating issue, except that i have had the sticks in and out often and whenever it is only 2 or 3 sticks it always works
9. dodgy memory stick - when the mobo gets through post I've been able to run memtest through and I get no errors at all.
10. the cpu and vid card are *NOT overclocked*

So in summary I'm looking for advice from people who might have come across similar issues to what i am encountering. I keep hearing of people who are able to run 4 sticks in this board without any issues so i wonder whether it is something that I'm doing wrong. Any advice or constructive comments would be appreciated.

uomenothing

[radlord]

Well first thing to do, I think, would be to put two sticks in, run memtest (built into Vista if you have it) and see if it reports any errors. Then put in the other two and run it.

[uomenothing]

Hi Radlord

Thanks for your comment. As I said in my first post, memtest runs and finds no errors with all four sticks in at 800MHz 4-4-4-12-4 - obviously I can only run memtest on four sticks after it has got through post though. I have also tested the sticks individually at this setting (and higher) and they check out fine.

Since I posted last I have tried setting bios to use spd, as well as trying manual settings at 533MHz 6-6-6-18-6 - neither of these settings worked...

[radlord]

hmmmm. How weird.

Maybe try bumping the volts up on the Northbridge a wee bit?

[Yolanda]

New Core2 E7400 is released with very high 10.5 ratio and on new R0 stepping, making it possible to get 4.2GHz at only 400FSB.

[tomcug]

I wonder how that R0 stepping overclocks :). I think it should be much better than M0, just it was in case of E0 compared to C0.

[G40RoCkEt]

Well people, after change my PSU to a new Corsair TX750W, i can reach the 380FSB easy, as you can see:

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3820/over380fsbredft7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/over380fsbredft7.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img510/over380fsbredft7.jpg/1/)

It's a weird, but with my old PSU (thermaltake pure power 680w) i not pass orthos for more than 1H.

Seems that the PSU is a very important thing to oc sucess.

So, for now, 3.6ghz in cpu with 2.1V in 4 x 1GB DDR2 is not so bad. :D

CPU Frequency: 380MHz
DRAM Frequency: 760MHz
Performance Mode: Auto
PCI Express Frequency: 100MHz
PCI Clock Synchronization Mode: 33.33MHz
Memory Voltage: 2.1V (if have 2x1GB, only 1.8V)
CPU VCore Voltage: Auto
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.3V
MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.65V
ICH Chipset Voltage: 1.05V
SPD - Enable (timmings - 5-6-6-18)

Good and old motherboard :clap::clap:

[clip]

this mobo served me well, glad to see it's still going strong : ) *salutes*

designed for 2 stick dual channel, 4 stick imagine is unstable? :/

[tranzy]

I'm still using Bios 2004.

Using it overclocked now for over a year. It is stable. Do you guys recommend upgrading or will there be no difference noticable. "If it ain't broken.... " ??

The reason i'm thinking about upgrading is that i'm seeing "only" 2gb in stead of 3.2gb in Vista 32bit. Do you think it is because i have a 640mb videocard ?

Using it with
E6600
4x1gb HyperX mem.
8800GTS 640MB

[festipaul]

Well people, after change my PSU to a new Corsair TX750W, i can reach the 380FSB easy, as you can see:

It's a weird, but with my old PSU (thermaltake pure power 680w) i not pass orthos for more than 1H.

Seems that the PSU is a very important thing to oc sucess.

So, for now, 3.6ghz in cpu with 2.1V in 4 x 1GB DDR2 is not so bad. :D

CPU Frequency: 380MHz
DRAM Frequency: 760MHz
Performance Mode: Auto
PCI Express Frequency: 100MHz
PCI Clock Synchronization Mode: 33.33MHz
Memory Voltage: 2.1V (if have 2x1GB, only 1.8V)
CPU VCore Voltage: Auto
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.3V
MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.65V
ICH Chipset Voltage: 1.05V
SPD - Enable (timmings - 5-6-6-18)

Good and old motherboard :clap::clap:

That's exactly what I am running but in vista 32, stable as well. However I am much hotter....idle 45 C, load 57 C what cooling are you using? Should I be worried at my temps?

[MustardTheoRy]

have anyone encountered this problem?

in vista ultimate im transfering files from one hdd to another both are 1tb 32mbcache

it just takes long on the calculating time remaining when moving files from the 1tb to another hence it should not be like that since im only transfering 1g of file


things ive done

tested all drives in xp and all are ok
netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled - doesnt improve
Remote Differential Compression - doesnt improve

im using bios 2801
e6420 oc`ed to 3ghz
2x1g ddr2 800 team dark rams




seagate 320 16mb sata - vista os

seagate 750 32mb sata - files
seagate 1tb 32mb sata - files
seagate 1tb 32mb sata - files
seagate 320g 16mb ide - files
wd 320g ide 16mb- files
ibm 80g ide - xp back up os

Install svc pack 1 and its a 1 tb file it will take time

[G40RoCkEt]

That's exactly what I am running but in vista 32, stable as well. However I am much hotter....idle 45 C, load 57 C what cooling are you using? Should I be worried at my temps?

Paul, i use a good Noctua cooler as you can see in the image of my computer:

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7595/th02vp6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/th02vp6.jpg/1/w1024.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img528/th02vp6.jpg/1/)

EDIT: Paul your temps i think is fine. I have the cpu in 26º at IDLE, and 38º-40º FULL

So, after 3:30H of orthos, i run one 3dmark06 test with my 380FSB and my new Corsair 750W.

Test are fine and after finish the test i played in GRID game.

Well, first racing, in the second lap , have a BSDO (machine_check_exception)....

Seems , that 380FSB with 4 x 1GB, is to forget with this board... Or should i put some vcore voltage in cpu?

I still have the problem in vcore cpu - bios allow me in 1.45v - 7V. Less than 1.45v i cannot define.

So, back another time to 370FSB with my 4 x 1GB. - STABLE LIKE A ROCK AGAIN.

In the future i will change my memories, and put some 2 x 2GB DDR2 800 KIT.

For now, i still have a little happy with this OC.

[firestarter.pt]

Finally got an E8600 to replace the E6600 but without changing the good old P5W DH, here is the result:

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/7447/e8600p5woh3.th.jpg (http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=e8600p5woh3.jpg)http://img511.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

My easiest overclock ever! Thanks to all that helped me before getting the 400 fsb bootable and stable :)

[G40RoCkEt]

Finally got an E8600 to replace the E6600 but without changing the good old P5W DH, here is the result:

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/7447/e8600p5woh3.th.jpg (http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=e8600p5woh3.jpg)http://img511.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

My easiest overclock ever! Thanks to all that helped me before getting the 400 fsb bootable and stable :)

Nice oc firestarter.pt,

Did you fix the core voltage in bios seetings? Or left in AUTO?

If you fix the core voltage, what P5W DH revision you have and bios version?

In mine revision (1.02g) the minimum that i can select is 1.45v

[firestarter.pt]

My board revision is the same as yours and I also can not set the voltage bellow 1.45v but it's no problem because it's a very good value for a moderate overclock.

Surprising with this CPU for the first time ever I'm able to boot this motherboard above 400 mhz fsb, I'm benchig at 10x 420 = 4.2 Ghz at the moment and it looks stable but I still have to test it with Orthos and after I'll try even more but I'm more than happy with 420 :D I never expect to go beyond 400...

[Daimao]

Hello i'm from Portugal and like u all a proud owner of an p5w. Although i think it's a good board i'm havin' problems with my OC. here is my rig:

Q9450
Corsair 2GbX2 (1066Mhz)
HD3870X2
P5W DH Deluxe (bios 2704)
Asus Silent Knight II cooler

I've tried to set FSB to 385Mhz and the mem to 976Mhz, everything ran smooth, crysis ran better than ever but it always kept crashin' (BSOD). I don't know a lot about voltages but everytime i changed them i had too clear cmos.

Can someone help me?

[tomcug]

Hello i'm from Portugal and like u all a proud owner of an p5w. Although i think it's a good board i'm havin' problems with my OC. here is my rig:

Q9450
Corsair 2GbX2 (1066Mhz)
HD3870X2
P5W DH Deluxe (bios 2704)
Asus Silent Knight II cooler

I've tried to set FSB to 385Mhz and the mem to 976Mhz, everything ran smooth, crysis ran better than ever but it always kept crashin' (BSOD). I don't know a lot about voltages but everytime i changed them i had too clear cmos.

Can someone help me?

Daimao, our board isn't the best overclocker with quad-core CPUs. However, you can try increasing FSB Termination Voltage, MCH Voltage, Memory Voltage and CPU Voltage. Post a shot from your current settings and it will be easier for us to help you.

[rvp]

Hi guys,

I have problems with A-data Vitesta Extreme Edition DDR2-800+ 2x2 GB . It's unstable at various settings. I'm using 1506 BIOS. Do you think that i should upgrade it ?



I'm still using Bios 2004.

The reason i'm thinking about upgrading is that i'm seeing "only" 2gb in stead of 3.2gb in Vista 32bit. Do you think it is because i have a 640mb videocard ?

Using it with
E6600
4x1gb HyperX mem.
8800GTS 640MB

Try turning on Memory remap feature in BIOS (or turn it off if it is on). The videocard does not have anything to do with this.

[thomas66]

i think that every ram selection above 2 x 1gb could cause problems (combined with overclock) with this board.

For example my cpu/system is stable at 420 FSB with 2 x 1gb
But with
2 x 2gb i can only run stable at 400 FSB
(no matter mch etc. voltage i use)

[Daimao]

I tried to change the mem voltage to 1.95. Its more stable but i still get the BSOD.

Originally Posted by tranzy
I'm still using Bios 2004.

The reason i'm thinking about upgrading is that i'm seeing "only" 2gb in stead of 3.2gb in Vista 32bit. Do you think it is because i have a 640mb videocard ?

Using it with
E6600
4x1gb HyperX mem.
8800GTS 640MB

I'm having with my memory too: it only recognizes 2.6Gb.

[firestarter.pt]

Update on my E8600 - Now 4100 Mhz rock solid!

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/10/4100qw7.th.jpg (http://img378.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4100qw7.jpg)http://img378.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

BTW, from what I read ppl use very low memory voltages, is there a reason for that? I use 2.25v since 2 and half years with no problems and good results (considering the 5-6-6 timmings limited by this board).

[G40RoCkEt]

Update on my E8600 - Now 4100 Mhz rock solid!

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/10/4100qw7.th.jpg (http://img378.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4100qw7.jpg)http://img378.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

BTW, from what I read ppl use very low memory voltages, is there a reason for that? I use 2.25v since 2 and half years with no problems and good results (considering the 5-6-6 timmings limited by this board).

Very good results.

What memorys do you have?

Go for 420FSB :up:

[mikepaul]

I've had a couple of follow-up calls this week from ASUS Tech Support about my August call. Problem is, the detail of 1.02G boards not getting as wide a range of vCore values as other board revisions is still not being accepted as a "Hey. lets fix that" issue. Or at least not by the techs manning the phones.

So I'm supposed to call in once I'm at my computer, and someone will talk me through trying to get stable operation at 1333Mhz FSB. That's ALL they'll guarantee, and only if that doesn't work would they MAYBE consider it a warranty issue. Maybe.

I'm aiming for tonight...

[mikepaul]

The guy I talked to didn't think the exercise of changing settings again would get me anywhere, so he talked to his supervisor. I was told that a form would be emailed to me to fill out, with my specs like MB revision and CPU, and they'd set up the same system there for testing. My comment that searching Google would reveal others with the same problem was accepted but not with any excitement. I did volunteer to work closely with a Taiwan BIOS engineer to get the settings fixed, which was also acknowledged as having been heard.

Always willing to believe the semi-believable, I'm now waiting for that form so things can continue moving forward...

[thehinge1]

FWIW: I kept my P5W-DH because it works well with my E6400 Allendale and makes a nice media box.. I couldn't OC 4x1GB sticks for crap and barely could run stock speeds, but I can run 392FSB 1:1 with 2x2GB OCZ Reaper DDR800CL4 sticks, I have it set at 4-4-4-15 and in Sandra it actually has better bandwidth than my previous 2x1GB kits (at least 8 different kits on this particular board).

[MacClipper]

Always willing to believe the semi-believable, I'm now waiting for that form so things can continue moving forward...
Kudos to you for pushing them cos this mobo can still work very nicely with a proper BIOS. I still have mine.

[pks1414]

I am hoping someone can finally put me out of my misery. I had a Q6600 G0 given to me and I thought its worth having because of what I have seen as its overclocking qualities. Well I have tried everything and the best I get is 3.0ghz or if I use the 30% clock profile in the BIOS I can get up to 3.11.

I would be really grateful if anyone could give me some settings to try as I have been up and down the various changes and everytime I run orime it falls over on thread 4 within seconds.

I have an arctic freezer pro 7 and at 3.00 idle CPU temps are around 35.

Running Vista 64-bit with 4gb of 6400C5DHX RAM (timings at 5-5-5-18)

BIOS version 27.04

Like I said, if I am told thats as good as it gets, so be it, wait for a new motherboard

Thanks

Paul

[secretworld]

I am hoping someone can finally put me out of my misery. I had a Q6600 G0 given to me and I thought its worth having because of what I have seen as its overclocking qualities. Well I have tried everything and the best I get is 3.0ghz or if I use the 30% clock profile in the BIOS I can get up to 3.11.

I would be really grateful if anyone could give me some settings to try as I have been up and down the various changes and everytime I run orime it falls over on thread 4 within seconds.

I have an arctic freezer pro 7 and at 3.00 idle CPU temps are around 35.

Running Vista 64-bit with 4gb of 6400C5DHX RAM (timings at 5-5-5-18)

BIOS version 27.04

Like I said, if I am told thats as good as it gets, so be it, wait for a new motherboard

Thanks

Paul
Yes this is about as good as it gets. I can run 3.0 fully stable and 3.15 prime stable but then my network is unreliable (strange but true).
I run 2gb corsair at ~830 at 4 4 4 12 2X 1gb. With 4 sticks results are even lower (~290FSB stable)

[pks1414]

Thats a blow :( I was hoping to hit the heady hights of at least 3.4 Presumably the only way is by investing in a new MOBO...what a bummer, just when you get something for nothing :)

[Tamerlane]

Always willing to believe the semi-believable, I'm now waiting for that form so things can continue moving forward...

Very nice work! This is exactly what needs to be done. It would probably help if 1 or 2 more people reported the manual voltage problem to ASUS with the same persistence. I haven't bought my new CPU yet but pretty soon I hope...

[mikepaul]

I was told that MAYBE I'd hear back by Wednesday, but I do have the extension for the first tech I talked to if things drag on without feedback.

The trick of still finding a 1.02G around their office is likely the big hurdle. I doubt anyone who is in charge of testing the BIOS has one...

[Tamerlane]

The trick of still finding a 1.02G around their office is likely the big hurdle. I doubt anyone who is in charge of testing the BIOS has one...

I agree that is the problem, but surely they can find a 1.02G (or original 1.01?) to reproduce the issue. I do remember reading about someone else being told by ASUS that they couldn't find an early revision board around the office at the moment but that the latest revision board changed vcore just fine!

Still, you have taken things further by escalating and formalizing issue so let's hope ASUS takes it more seriously this time.

[drillgr]

I am an owner of a 1.02g revision board. I hope that a new bios version will eventually come up so i can install a 45nm cpu.

I think asus has to focus more on the problem and not just telling that they don't have a similar board to test...

[MINIz guy]

Today, I finally got my desktop running again and am now having problems with my motherboard fan headers. About 4 months ago, I took apart my computer with my FAN1 and FAN2 headers working fine. Now, neither of them work while all the others work.

Is there a feature that disables headers or does it seem that my motherboard is crapping out on me? I bought this motherboard 1 and 1/2 years ago and expected longer life from this :(

[thms]

Hi, I'm new here

I'm currently running my E8400 at P5W DH (rev 1.02G + 1,85 vmch) board , because my P5K Deluxe has broken. :( Cpu worked stable @ 4,0Ghz, 1,34vcore at P5K deluxe board.

Before I installed E8400, I had updated BIOS to ver 2801. With E8400, the lowest voltage available to me is 1.3625. When vcore is set to AUTO, bios HW monitor show 1,19V, but when I set manually cpu voltage to 1.400, the bios hardware monitor show 0.968. I checked 1,500v - HW monitor show 1,08V.

I need 1,3V real for my cpu at P5W...

I checked 2602, 2704 bios ver too, but it is not working too... still have the same problem.

Yesterday I talked with one user of this forum and he said that 1.02g owners can only use AUTO voltage setting with 45nm cpus.

Is there another way to resolve this problem or should I wait for new bios from Asus?

[Tamerlane]

If you want a new BIOS, you should call or write ASUS just as mikepaul did above and report the problem. And no, there is no other solution for manual vcore settings for 45nm cpus on 1.02g revision boards.

[hkuve]

My p5w can do 8*400 but I can't get into windows when I'm on 400*9 with

1.5 Vcore?? my e6600 is l641f ..should I try 1.55?


My Settings:
Performance Mode: Auto
PCI Express Frequency: 100
PCI Clock Synchronization Mode: 33.33
Memory Voltage: 2.2
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.4V
MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.65V
ICH Chipset Voltage: 1.05V
Hyper Path 3: Disabled
Timings by SPD
C1E: Disable
EIST: Disable

rev 1.04G bios :2801

Thanks

[thms]

Hkuve, my old E6600 cpu can run stable @ 3,6ghz with 1,600 vcore in BIOS (~1,56v real). I think 400x9 setting needs higher voltage if 400fsb works properly with 8x multipler. Check 1,55v but don't forget to check cpu's temperature.

[mikepaul]

Still, you have taken things further by escalating and formalizing issue so let's hope ASUS takes it more seriously this time.
I email-nudged the guy to whom I sent my form, to see if anything is happening. If I don't hear back from him in a few days, I'll call the first guy who contacted me.

I hate thinking the support-rollercoaster is on a permanemt downhill plunge...

[MarcusTaz]

I am hoping someone can finally put me out of my misery. I had a Q6600 G0 given to me and I thought its worth having because of what I have seen as its overclocking qualities. Well I have tried everything and the best I get is 3.0ghz or if I use the 30% clock profile in the BIOS I can get up to 3.11.

I would be really grateful if anyone could give me some settings to try as I have been up and down the various changes and everytime I run orime it falls over on thread 4 within seconds.

I have an arctic freezer pro 7 and at 3.00 idle CPU temps are around 35.

Running Vista 64-bit with 4gb of 6400C5DHX RAM (timings at 5-5-5-18)

BIOS version 27.04

Like I said, if I am told thats as good as it gets, so be it, wait for a new motherboard

Thanks

Paul


Bios Settings are as follows:


ASUS P5WDH Dlx Overclock Settings

CPU : Q6600 Bx
DDR2 : Crucial Ballistic 4GB (4 x 1GB)
Bios : 2004
VGA : 1 ATI HD 2900XT 1GB DDR4
HDD : WD Raptor 150gb 16mb
PSU : Antec 650w Tri Rail
OS : Win Vista X64
Sound: Creative XFI Fatality Pro
OVERCLOCK (MHz) = 3406Mhz

BIOS SETTINGS

JumperFree Configuration

AI Overclocking set to: MANUAL

CPU Frequency : 378MhZ
DRAMM Frequency :758Mhz (1:1 according to CPUZ)

Performance Mode :Turbo
PCI Express Frequency : 100Mhz
PCI Clock Sync Mode : 33.33Mhz

Memory Voltage : 2.2v
CPU Vcore Voltage : 1.5
FSB Termination V : 1.4
MCH Chipset V : 1.65
ICH Chipset V : 1.2
--------------------------------------------------------

CPU Configuration

Microcode Update : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
Execute Disable Function : Disabled
CPU Internal Thermal Control : Disabled
Virtualization Technology : Disabled
Intel SpeedStep Technology : Disabled
--------------------------------------------------------

Advanced Chipset Settings (DDR2)

Configure DRAM Timing By SPD : MANUAL
DRAM CAS Latency : 4
DRAM RAS Precharge : 4
DRAM RAS To CAS Delay : 4
DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge Delay : 12
DRAM Write Recovery Time : 4

Hyper Path 3 : Disabled
DRAM Throttling : Disabled
Memory Remap: Enabled


Now your ram may not run a the same specs as mine so I would start with the timmings loose and conservative. Then once your CPU is stable @ 3.4ghz I would start to try and tighten them up.

[corex2]

Hi guys, i have this board at the moment with latest bios and im running a e8400 @ stock, i can also get it up to 3.8. But my problem is getting this board to boot with my gtx280 @ pciex16, anybody know how to do this ? if i try to boot up with the gtx280 in the orange pcie slot then it just doesnt turn on. if this is a bios setting then can somebody please tell me what i need to change in the bios, as i cant see anything relating to pcie speed. thanks in advance,
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/2672/desksu2.jpg

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Question, are people here running the 8gb black dragon kit on this board? I'm running 4x1gb regular ( red ihs ) geil sticks atm but I need more ram in both this system as my other one so I'm about to order the black dragon kit so I can move this 4x1 to the other system and put the black dragon here. The manual/page says 8gb is supported, but there is no qualified vendor list I can find so I'm aksing you all.

Already looked if I could afford a new mobo, the increase in possible fsb would make it worthwhile but I can't spend the money atm. This will be my christmas gift for myself if I hear it will do fine :yepp:

[cmthomson]

I recently replaced my 6600 with an 8500 CPU on my 1.02g P5WDH (summer 2006 vintage).

It went fairly smoothly. I had to run BIOS 1801 to get rid of a microcode update error, and it took a few installs and a CMOS clear to make that work, and also to get back the 9.5 multiplier.

The CPU voltage has to be left on auto (CPU-Z reads 1.18V) as the lowest manual voltage in the menu is above the rated 1.26V maximum for this CPU. I also left C1E enabled since the voltage is auto.

The limitation to overclocking with my board is the north bridge (MCH). First, HyperPath3 must be disabled. Second, it needs a good heat sink (I use a tower HR-05). Third, it maxes out at 375 with 4-4-4-12-4 timing and 385 with SPD timing (375 at 1.60V, 385 at 1.65V).

I settled on the 375 timing (CPU at 3.567 GHz), which runs the NB a bit cooler and gives slightly better system performance due to better memory timings.

I have an original Ninja on the CPU with a slow Nexus fan. At idle, the fan is set at 44% (630 RPM - silent) and the CPU is 48C. Under Orthos, the fan speeds up to 65% and the CPU is 63C (the SpeedFan set point). The room ambient was 25C when these temperatures were measured.

Although this wonderful motherboard is very near end of life, it ain't quite dead yet! :clap:

[corex2]

I recently replaced my 6600 with an 8500 CPU on my 1.02g P5WDH (summer 2006 vintage).

It went fairly smoothly. I had to run BIOS 1801 to get rid of a microcode update error, and it took a few installs and a CMOS clear to make that work, and also to get back the 9.5 multiplier.

The CPU voltage has to be left on auto (CPU-Z reads 1.18V) as the lowest manual voltage in the menu is above the rated 1.26V maximum for this CPU. I also left C1E enabled since the voltage is auto.

The limitation to overclocking with my board is the north bridge (MCH). First, HyperPath3 must be disabled. Second, it needs a good heat sink (I use a tower HR-05). Third, it maxes out at 375 with 4-4-4-12-4 timing and 385 with SPD timing (375 at 1.60V, 385 at 1.65V).

I settled on the 375 timing (CPU at 3.567 GHz), which runs the NB a bit cooler and gives slightly better system performance due to better memory timings.

I have an original Ninja on the CPU with a slow Nexus fan. At idle, the fan is set at 44% (630 RPM - silent) and the CPU is 48C. Under Orthos, the fan speeds up to 65% and the CPU is 63C (the SpeedFan set point). The room ambient was 25C when these temperatures were measured.

Although this wonderful motherboard is very near end of life, it ain't quite dead yet! :clap:

What vga do you have, i cant get the board to start with my gtx280 in the orange slot and it wont run above pciex x8 in the second slot!! I have a e8400.

[cmthomson]

What vga do you have, i cant get the board to start with my gtx280 in the orange slot and it wont run above pciex x8 in the second slot!! I have a e8400.

I have a single 9800GT video card. It works fine in the top PCI-e slot. To make it silent, I replaced its heat sink with an Accelero S1 rev 2, and strapped on a slow fan.

The second PCI-e slot can never run x16 on this board. The only way to get x16 is with a single card plugged into the top slot. If you populate the second slot (whether running one card or two), both slots drop to x8.

[corex2]

The system wont boot with my gtx280 in the first slot, fans start to blow then slow down then blow again then slow down, but no post to the bios ??? any ideas why

[cmthomson]

The system wont boot with my gtx280 in the first slot, fans start to blow then slow down then blow again then slow down, but no post to the bios ??? any ideas why

Just a guess: sounds to me like one of the 12V rails on your power supply is overloaded and shutting down. You may need a bigger/better supply for this graphics card.

Really wild guess: did you attach the auxiliary 6-pin power cable to the video card? This card draws more than 75W which is the maximum the PCI-e connector will supply.