ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

[DrSlump]

Sorry I don't know about any other bios settings. I'm using 2406 and afraid to go newer because of stories of people unable to set voltages lower than 1.45v. And I still don't know if 2704 is an improvement; I saw *ONE*....count em...ONE post supporting 2704, and several bashing it as badly as 2602....

I also asked a question several pages ago which was totally ignored:

Is ANYONE using 2704 with a 45nm CPU having the FULL voltage range available (1.225v-1.7) and NOT just 1.45 and up?

Is ANYONE using 2704 and HAPPY with it, similar to the last version which seemed to work correctly, 2406?

Is ANYONE using 2704 and have SPEEDSTEP/EIST/C1E working, WITHOUT needing to enable the CPU multiplier feature?

I have the 2704, as i explained before i have a really low fsb wall for my Q6600, but i'm unable to confirm if it's a cpu problem or a mainboard problem.
The 2704 seems to be stable. I have the eist working properly and the c1e is enable in the bios, but i don't know to verify if it's effectively working.
The main defect i have is that i cannot change the cpu multiplier. Even changing it, it remains fixed @9x.

[ntvh]

Bingo, I told you..Falkentyne.:D

This website and the people in here they are very good.

[mikepaul]

Is ANYONE using 2704 with a 45nm CPU having the FULL voltage range available (1.225v-1.7) and NOT just 1.45 and up?
Is 1.225 as low as it's supposed to go? Is the reason for the instability that I've seen it bounce as low as 1.07V?...

[Falkentyne]

Those voltages ranges are for manual setting. I would assume that auto and using a speedstep setting could go down to 1.05v. I've never seen a P5W allow manual voltages down to 1.05v.

I Just need to know if people using a 45nm CPU do have the 1.225-1.7v full range selection.

The above poster has a Q6600 though, that's 65nm....

[mikepaul]

Those voltages ranges are for manual setting. I would assume that auto and using a speedstep setting could go down to 1.05v. I've never seen a P5W allow manual voltages down to 1.05v.

I Just need to know if people using a 45nm CPU do have the 1.225-1.7v full range selection.

Not here. That's why I still use Auto. I swear I didn't reactivate SpeedStep or anything, so perhaps ASUS is detecting the power requirements just as well as Core Temp detects the right temperatures. So far, no place I looked said 55C was a good idle temp...

[clip]

I guess I could replace my DH Deluxe if there was still a board that had two IDE ports that handled a Q9450 well. It's just that I expected to be able to use this one until I bailed for a Nehalem setup in a couple of years.

I have a PCI IDE card lying around somewhere but that isn't my idea of the way to use a slot in a NEW motherboard...

do it, get a few sata drives while your there, the DHD will be hating your quad like it hated my duo :yepp:

[h4nc0]

I have the same problem. I have 2 drives in RAID0 on the SATA 1 & 3 connectors, a burner on the Intel IDE port, and added 2 IDE drives on the JMicron IDE ports.
Everything works fine until the system goes into 'Standby' (sleep) mode. When it resumes, the drives on the JMicron IDE port have disappeared! The only way I can get them back is to reboot.
I had the 1305 BIOS, switched to the 1503 BIOS and same issue.
I did the Microsoft 'hotfix' and it did nothing.
Any suggestions?

Did you ever solve this problem? I am experiencing the exact same thing.

[clip]

the trick is don't use the JMicron, use the Intel Raid, the two middle right

[h4nc0]

the trick is don't use the JMicron, use the Intel Raid, the two middle right

Have 4 SATA drives. BTW, the issue is fixed by installing JMicron SCSI driver instead of the standard MS IDE driver.

[djstudio]

STORAGE SYSTEM ASUS P5W DH Deluxe v1.02G Bios 2704:

Western Digital RAPTOR 74GB 10000rpm. 16MB NCQ SATA Master
MAXTOR DiamondMax 10 160GB 7200rpm. 8MB Ultra ATA 133 - IDE
SAMSUNG SpinPoint F1 HD322HJ - 320GB 16MB SATA II
SAMSUNG HD403LJ 400GB 7200rpm. 16MB SATA II - connecting eSATA
SAMSUNG HD753LJ F1 750GB 7200rpm. 32MB SATA II
DVD RW LG GSA-H30N SATA

http://www.czechcomputer.cz/uploadimg/USR.123990/K0804200016434153462124698723702/K0804201152292565209633372757228.jpg

http://www.czechcomputer.cz/uploadimg/USR.123990/B2663361DCF1334CC125741A005CC9F2/K0804191735303622093863792125132.jpg

http://www.czechcomputer.cz/uploadimg/USR.123990/B2663361DCF1334CC125741A005CC9F2/K0804191734089752089768363863944.jpg

http://members.chello.cz/dj_studio/pictures/screeny/new/P1010365s.jpg

[Falkentyne]

djstudio:

What was the point of your post? How did it contribute ANYTHING to this thread, or even to what I asked about the 2704 bios? All you did was post some pictures....and the wording isn't even in English! So we have no idea what you're talking about O_O.....hard drive benchmarks?

[Ra7or]

Hi guiys,

Sometimes my mobo, under overclock, when I reset the PC it clears the BIOS, just like a free clear cmos, it did never happen to you??

I am running a E6400, 400FSB, full stable, but this problem persists even with this latest BIOS, 2704.
Thanks in advance.
Regards

[DrSlump]

Hi guiys,

Sometimes my mobo, under overclock, when I reset the PC it clears the BIOS, just like a free clear cmos, it did never happen to you??

I am running a E6400, 400FSB, full stable, but this problem persists even with this latest BIOS, 2704.
Thanks in advance.
Regards

Strange. Check the gnd connections and the battery.

[Ra7or]

Strange. Check the gnd connections and the battery.

Yes, very strange:(

The ground connections are alright and the battery too. I don't know why this happens.

This happens with OC, when in default its very, very rare, maybe will be very difficult to send it to RMA...:(
Regards

EDIT:

I forgot to say, when I was testing the BIOS battery the multimeter show me 3.20V, it wasn't supposed to be 3V or less?? Or this mobo use different battery?
Regards

[t_ski]

Battery should be slightly over voltage if it's good. Going below rated voltage means that the battery is wearing out.

[Xeon Zombie]

Ok... BIOS 2704... I had some issues with it at first, but am now actually quite happy with it.

- Here's why:

@ first, BIOSS was strangely sluggish, and I could not seem to change my multi downward (I could but it wouldn't "stick" on reboot).

Per previous suggestion, I cleared CMOS, and still had same issues.

- However - During this time, I also managed my highest stable OC to date, so sluggishness aside, I left as-is.

Now for the weird part - I moved into a new apartment two days ago, and upon setting up my rig, I noticed the P5W DH splash scrren come up (I always shut this off). I went into the BIOS to disable, and found all settings had been reset, sluggishness was gone, and I can change my multi again! - My Dad packed up my rig, so I am suspicious that something occurred that reset the CMOS, which doesn't thrill me, but everything's working now, so no worries...

I am running a 65nm X3220 Quad @ 3.4GHz, 2GB Corsair @ 954MHz w/ decent timings... not experiencing any voltage issues (aside from a slight vdroop that I always have to take into account w/this board, no weird issues with the nic or onboard sound either (which I experienced during high fsb overclocking with an E6400). I am running Mac Leopard 10.5.2 w/all updates, and even need to have a couple of odd things set up in the BIOS to get Leopard running.

So long story short: I cannot speak to the performance w/ 45nm on this board, however I have been using the DH for a good long while, and it is performing better these days than I have ever seen it (w/ my current setup).

- In all fairness, I should also note that this is my second DH. I purchased my first in Mar. of '06. It died exactly one year later, and I RMA'd for a new one. The new DH is rev. 1.040, if that makes a diff.

Best,

Xeon Zombie

[R@ptor =]]]

What's up guys...
i'm trying to do a overclock here...but i'm having a problems...
what is the best bios to do a overclock in this motherboard??
i'm usgin a 65nm processor...a E6750...i'm trying to put 400fsb, but the stability don't come...
when i put the divisor on 1:1 (fsb/ram), the windows started, but when i tested the the over in the orthos, and 2 second later, the machine simply stopped, and i need to restart the pc...
my config: E6750, crucial ballisitx tracer 800mhz (the best batch)
i don't remember what bios i'm using now...i'm going to see now, later i edit the post...
sorry guys...my english is veryyyy bad, but I think you can understand
thankssss :D
edit: the bios is 2206

[Chrysalis]

an update I am still on 2704 and its still stable no crashes etc.

Regarding voltages both C1E and speedstep will reduce the voltage on idle the difference is how they increase the clock speed on activity.

C1E - I believe raises clock speed/voltage whenever the processor is taken out of HLT.
speedstep - requires cpu utilisation to be above a certian % before it adds juice.

so C1E is less impact on performance but in turn saves less power and heat.

If you enable speedstep and C1E is disabled I dont know if it still reduces voltage alongside the clockspeed I cannot remember :)

[mikepaul]

I may be blind, but I no longer see an EIST setting to enable or disable under 2704. Virtualization is stuck enabled since I'm not allowed to touch it. Where was EIST set, and is it available to any 45nm CPU?...

[Yolanda]

];2964918']What's up guys...
i'm trying to do a overclock here...but i'm having a problems...
what is the best bios to do a overclock in this motherboard??
i'm usgin a 65nm processor...a E6750...i'm trying to put 400fsb, but the stability don't come...
when i put the divisor on 1:1 (fsb/ram), the windows started, but when i tested the the over in the orthos, and 2 second later, the machine simply stopped, and i need to restart the pc...
my config: E6750, crucial ballisitx tracer 800mhz (the best batch)
i don't remember what bios i'm using now...i'm going to see now, later i edit the post...
sorry guys...my english is veryyyy bad, but I think you can understand
thankssss :D
edit: the bios is 2206

I have the same E6750, first try to set memory to lower mode 600MHz, and then test only CPU. Disable all power saving features such as C1E mode, ESST. If it can't work add CPU voltage, my CPU can work at nominal 1,35V only for a while and fails in most tests, fully stable at 1,425V. If nothing helps try to add voltage on MCH to 1,65V. When you get normal work at 3.2GHz you can set memory speed back and power saving features if want.

[R@ptor =]]]

I have the same E6750, first try to set memory to lower mode 600MHz, and then test only CPU. Disable all power saving features such as C1E mode, ESST. If it can't work add CPU voltage, my CPU can work at nominal 1,35V only for a while and fails in most tests, fully stable at 1,425V. If nothing helps try to add voltage on MCH to 1,65V. When you get normal work at 3.2GHz you can set memory speed back and power saving features if want.
what's up!! thanks for the help!
what is the votage stock of MCH ?? 1.55?? i'm going to do a new tests today, but i have more one problem here..
i'm using a cooler box :down: ... How i put the cooler to max rpm?? i put the conector of cooler in the 3 pin of mobo..and i disabled everthinng about q-fan in the bios...But nothing makes this crap to work in the max rpm!! :shrug:
thankss

[ntvh]

I want to jump the boat. Does it worth it??? Planning to c/o the MB P5w DH to Gigabyte GA-X48-DQ6 :confused: Please break me if you have to. Thanks:D

[Leeghoofd]

Plz guys don't push ya beloved P5W's... Do not go over 1.6MCH voltage and 400 FSB with Conroes... on the stock NB... Things will go downhill from there : resulting in erratic behaviour and NB degradation, resulting in a lesser FSB to become stable again... if you feel the need to push 400FSB and above go P35 for a cheap solution...

@NTVH : no need to go X48 mate, any P35 will handle any current CPU nicely...(unless you want to go flatout on Crossfire) since you got all those NB/SB stuff pick ya mobo wisely...

[Khalmyr]

I ran my E6420 @ 3.44Ghz (430 x 8) for a year and a half at max vMch (1.85v?) and nothing happened.

I only put some AS5 and took off the metal caps from the nb and sb.

[Leeghoofd]

I ran my E6420 @ 3.44Ghz (430 x 8) for a year and a half at max vMch (1.85v?) and nothing happened.

I only put some AS5 and took off the metal caps from the nb and sb.

Count yourself very lucky then, I fried 2 of them in just over half a year... not everyone here replaces the TIM or upgrade it's cooling,... some boards sustain the abuse, some just give in... I just share my experience with the board and I loved it for each minute it ran...
I still feel Max MCH will get some into trouble... and not everyone here has got the budget to swap out boards when one gives in... don't say I didn't warn ya...

[ntvh]

@NTVH : no need to go X48 mate, any P35 will handle any current CPU nicely...(unless you want to go flatout on Crossfire) since you got all those NB/SB stuff pick ya mobo wisely...


Thanks for your advise.

The problem is just got the E8400 3.o G and want to see 4.gh but it's so rough. P5W DH give me too much ban to my head. Please advise.:clap:

[mikepaul]

I may be blind, but I no longer see an EIST setting to enable or disable under 2704. Virtualization is stuck enabled since I'm not allowed to touch it. Where was EIST set, and is it available to any 45nm CPU?...
Doing my own legwork, I found this illustration:
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/9449/pict0003ir4.jpg
Shouldn't the EIST setting still be there? If I posted a crappy cameraphone picture of my 2704 BIOS settings screen there would be a untouchable Virtualization setting and nothing below it...

[R@ptor =]]]

So, if i need to put more voltage in mch, I can lose the mobo?? i can't belive..
i want no put 400fsb, but the stability don't come, Even if I put A high-voltage in the cpu...I don't now what I do to make stable over :(

[Leeghoofd]

Thanks for your advise.

The problem is just got the E8400 3.o G and want to see 4.gh but it's so rough. P5W DH give me too much ban to my head. Please advise.:clap:

In my days, there were few P5W's that did 440-450FSB stable, combine that with the extra strain on the memory controller due to the E8400... I'm pretty sure that you will have a very very hard time to get there... let alone be stable... Just for a quick comparison... on my P35 I'm currently burning in an E8400 at 3.6ghz at 1.1Vcore and 1.4Nb voltage, setup done in 15 secs... 3 hour stable till now... overclocking on the P35 is a breeze... Sorry to say but it's time to upgrade unless you settle for 400-425 FSB or such...

];2969217']So, if i need to put more voltage in mch, I can lose the mobo?? i can't belive..
i want no put 400fsb, but the stability don't come, Even if I put A high-voltage in the cpu...I don't now what I do to make stable over :(

Try a higher MCH voltage but I wouldn't recommend to go over 1.65 (but that's up to you ofcourse)... keep ya ram in sync plz...

[lawrywild]

Anyone able to get into asus ftp's anymore? Directory listings are denied for me now :(

[ntvh]

In my days, there were few P5W's that did 440-450FSB stable, combine that with the extra strain on the memory controller due to the E8400... I'm pretty sure that you will have a very very hard time to get there... let alone be stable... Just for a quick comparison... on my P35 I'm currently burning in an E8400 at 3.6ghz at 1.1Vcore and 1.4Nb voltage, setup done in 15 secs... 3 hour stable till now... overclocking on the P35 is a breeze... Sorry to say but it's time to upgrade unless you settle for 400-425 FSB or such...



what Would you upgrade to what rid? Please advise Thanks

unless you want to go flatout on Crossfire

i don't get it

[t_ski]

Doing my own legwork, I found this illustration:
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/9449/pict0003ir4.jpg
Shouldn't the EIST setting still be there? If I posted a crappy cameraphone picture of my 2704 BIOS settings screen there would be a untouchable Virtualization setting and nothing below it...

I beieve the last line (in white) is EIST. Doesn't EIST mean something like "Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology?"

[Leeghoofd]

Would you upgrade to what rid? Please advise Thanks

Most decent P35 based mobo's do 450FSB mate out of the box... I own the P5K Dlx (dunno if they still sell it) works like a charm with 0812 bios with 45nm CPU's, DFI also has some very strong models of the P35... and all in the 100-150 dollar price range...

Boards that are famous here :

DFI LANPARTY DK P35-T2RS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813136043

New Asus G35 mobo also works fab , though needs one of ya waterblocks :

ASUS P5E-VM HDMI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131237

Gigabyte P35DS3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128083

I beieve the last line (in white) is EIST. Doesn't EIST mean something like "Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology?"

Well it's not his Bios screenshot though an older bios version, on his new bios the virtualization is locked and no more EIST there on his rig...

[R@ptor =]]]

I'm thinking of giving up the attempt over...i'm afraid to put more voltage in mch now...degradation it's very bad...
i dont know...
hey, can anyone help me to put the cooler box to max rpm??
i'm trying to put here, but i can't find a solution!!

[rvp]

Hi guys, has anybody tried XIGMATEK HDT - S1283 cooler on this board ?

lawrywild, i'm prompted for username and pass. Looks like anonymous users are no longer allowed.

[lawrywild]

Hi guys, has anybody tried XIGMATEK HDT - S1283 cooler on this board ?

lawrywild, i'm prompted for username and pass. Looks like anonymous users are no longer allowed.

I'm prompted for user on the global ftp but not on dlsvr's. They just say directory listing not allowed :mad:

[ntvh]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131182

is this the one??? Thank

[lawrywild]

I beieve the last line (in white) is EIST. Doesn't EIST mean something like "Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology?"

Yes, it does but you misunderstood his post. He was showing a pic of the EIST setting and then said that he does not have the setting available.

[R@ptor =]]]

];2969486']I'm thinking of giving up the attempt over...i'm afraid to put more voltage in mch now...degradation it's very bad...
i dont know...
hey, can anyone help me to put the cooler box to max rpm??
i'm trying to put here, but i can't find a solution!!
Nobody can help?? please :p:

[t_ski]

Hi guys, has anybody tried XIGMATEK HDT - S1283 cooler on this board ?
I tested it on my board for my review at TechPowerUp. The cooler worked fine, but I had less than ideal contact with mine due to their base being uneven. Unfortunately, that's a problem with many exposed heatpipe coolers.

Yes, it does but you misunderstood his post. He was showing a pic of the EIST setting and then said that he does not have the setting available.

You're right. I thought he was showing us a picture of his own BIOS screen. That just made more sense to me that way.

[Random Murderer]

Hi guys, has anybody tried XIGMATEK HDT - S1283 cooler on this board ?

lawrywild, i'm prompted for username and pass. Looks like anonymous users are no longer allowed.

that's what i use, and i couldn't be happier.

[mikepaul]

Yes, it does but you misunderstood his post. He was showing a pic of the EIST setting and then said that he does not have the setting available.
Thanks. I'm hoping somebody else with a 45nm will check and see if we're all in the same boat. I'd certainly turn it off if it'd keep 2.66Ghz stable...

[Leeghoofd]

];2970403']Nobody can help?? please :p:

Isn't there an option for Qfan or such ,disable it and let her run fullspeed... prolly in hardware monitor tab

[R@ptor =]]]

Isn't there an option for Qfan or such ,disable it and let her run fullspeed... prolly in hardware monitor tab
But i do that...and the cooler don't go to your max rpm!! i tried to put the conector of cooler box in the 3pin of the mobo too, but don't work..
:down:

[Leeghoofd]

It's prolly a PWM controlled cooler so it only spins up at a certain temp level... Time to buy a decent one...

[t_ski]

R@ptor =]], go to the Hardware Monitor Page and set AI Quiet to Disable.

[R@ptor =]]]

@ Leeghoofd
yeah...i'm thinking to buy other..evercool buffalo it's a great choice..here in brazil, this cooler is the most cxb...i'm testing my cpu now..i put 395 fsb and memory 1:1...1 hour e 30 minutes stress on orthos , and it's stable...when the test reach 2 hours, i wanna stop...if i put the memos, a diferent fsb/ram 1:1, the pc don't boot..later i gonna post somes screens :)

@ t_ski
I do that, but don't work :(


that's it!
i don't need to add more voltagem in mch....voltage stock, 1.55v

[t_ski]

];2972045']@ t_ski
I do that, but don't work :(

Sorry (I'm going off memory) - are there other options for AI Quiet? I know I had mine set to run at full speed all the time, but perhaps it may have been the BIOS version (mine was 2301).

[R@ptor =]]]

Sorry (I'm going off memory) - are there other options for AI Quiet? I know I had mine set to run at full speed all the time, but perhaps it may have been the BIOS version (mine was 2301).
Relax man =]
i looked here, and don't have other options for AI quiet or something...
:(

[Chrysalis]

the trick is don't use the JMicron, use the Intel Raid, the two middle right

I rate the jmicron higher.

It seems when installing the jmicron driver it allows NCQ even when basic is set in the bios. Here is my problem below.

The intel controller can use either ide, ahci or raid mode. The latter 2 only allow write caching on raid configs. The ide mode doesnt support NCQ slowing down my raptor os drive. But raid/ahci slows down the other drives on the controller making things like gaming and multimedia worse.

The solution for me is to put the raptor on the jmicron sata port install the drivers and I get ncq + write caching best of both worlds. Run the intel controller in ide mode which works best for the other drives. The jmicron is in basic mode allowing the pata drives to run off it also. Some of the jmicron drivers are buggy with delayed write failures but that issue seems to be fixed on the last 3 driver versions now.

[Yolanda]

Added support for the latest Core2 Duo E7200, E8300 :) And for even unknown E7300

E7300, if it will be released, will be best CPU, 10x multiplier and 1066FSB, which give 4GHz simply at 1600FSB, so everybody can overclock it on our P5W :)

[Leeghoofd]

Added support for the latest Core2 Duo E7200, E8300 :) And for even unknown E7300

E7300, if it will be released, will be best CPU, 10x multiplier and 1066FSB, which give 4GHz simply at 1600FSB, so everybody can overclock it on our P5W :)

If it were just that simple... prolly tops out at 3.8-4.0ghz too due to chip design... but can the board handle it at 400FSB...

[R@ptor =]]]

Guys...what is your opinion?
i'm thinking in buying a p5k premium, but i also want to buy a 9600gt or 8800gt too...but i just can pay for one of these things...
what i buy first, the p5k premium/dlx, or the vga??
thanks
if is possible, help me here :D
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=187245

[Leeghoofd]

Looking at what lies ahead regarding Gfx cards and mobo's I would hold off that buy till mid summer... and rethink ya buys again...

[MacClipper]

So I've just re-installed my Vista x64, thought it would be a good time seeing as SP1 is out. I've had an annoying problem ever since I installed Vista in that the computer crashes when waking up from Hibernate and Sleep. It's done this on all the BIOS versions I've tried, I'm on 2602 now. All the fans come on full blast and it just sits there, roaring at me. Not ideal.

This is a completely fresh install, all drivers including my Radeon drivers are the most up-to-date ones.

Any ideas what might be casusing this? My BIOS settings have all the ACPI stuff turned to 'on'.
Just installed a E2160@2.88 (Vcore Auto with EIST/C1E) on my now spare P5W (BIOS 2406) with a self done vLite slipstream Vista x64/SP1 - works really great with no problems doing S3 sleep/resume. Got to install the latest Intel chipset (got mine off MSI) as well as the Asus ATK0110/Realtek Wireless (available on Win updates) drivers to remove all traces of unknown devices in the Device Manager.

Haven't seen any aberrant "config disk" popping up yet too. :)

Update
Tried a new install today on a PATA harddisk on ICH7 with the same self done vLite slipstream Vista x64/SP1 source DVD on JMicron PATA and that irritating "config disk" has appeared once so far. Had to install the JMicron RAID drivers later to get S3 to work right too else the PATA ODD disappears on resume. Managed to edge the E2160@2.92GHz Auto Vcore.

[Leeghoofd]

Added support for the latest Core2 Duo E7200, E8300 :) And for even unknown E7300

E7300, if it will be released, will be best CPU, 10x multiplier and 1066FSB, which give 4GHz simply at 1600FSB, so everybody can overclock it on our P5W :)

Update : on other boards E7200 does 4ghz around 1.35Vcore level... hope it works out for ya P5W guys too...

[Ragdd]

I have a Asus P5W (almost same like the P5W DH Deluxe).

I connected my WDC 500 GB SATA HDD on SATA Port 1 (RED)
Now I want to connect a SATA Optiarc DVDRW, I tried every SATA port.
The bios detect the SATA DVDRW drive, but I can't boot up from CD in this drive.

What port should I use and what setting in the BIOS.
I would like to use AHCI for the WDC harddrive.

[BulldogPO]

I migt try Q9300, E8400 and E7300 on P5W DH.
What is latest "good" bios?

[Yolanda]

Hmm try latest 2704, in which they officially support E7300, Q9300 C1. I haven't see any changes in overclocking with all last versions, because all power saving features always off.

[mikepaul]

Hmm try latest 2704, in which they officially support E7300, Q9300 C1. I haven't see any changes in overclocking with all last versions, because all power saving features always off.
So, I'm to assume that EIST is off now using 2704?

My Q9450 seems unstable due to low vCore, but I thought that was due to EIST not working correctly. If it's off, then I guess it's just some bug in how they decide what voltage Auto uses...

[Yolanda]

No, I meant that I disable all these functions then I buy board and didn't test them at all after, bacause don't require them

[mikepaul]

No, I meant that I disable all these functions then I buy board and didn't test them at all after, bacause don't require them
Well, when you do get a 45nm CPU, let me know if you can turn them off, or even see them, using 2704...

[BulldogPO]

I just tried E8400 on P5WDH Deluxe with bios 2704, works fine but max FSB seems to be 372MHz, not very good.

Edit:
Now I tested Q9300 and its max stable FSB was 388MHz, weird that quadcore works better than dualcore.

[Yolanda]

Sound very bad such low FSB with dualcore, is it bad mb or which FSB it can handle with 65nm dualcore?

[Leeghoofd]

It's time to upgrade lads to get some decent FSB out of a newer CPU... latencies on the NB are way too tight to handle these new CPU's at 400 plus FSB...

[BulldogPO]

Sound very bad such low FSB with dualcore, is it bad mb or which FSB it can handle with 65nm dualcore?

I have runned E6600 with same board long time ago 420x9 24/7, so it´s not very bad board.

[mikepaul]

It's time to upgrade lads to get some decent FSB out of a newer CPU... latencies on the NB are way too tight to handle these new CPU's at 400 plus FSB...
If ASUS doesn't come out with a better BIOS than 2704 for 45nm, then maybe I'll get a new MB, but it won't be from ASUS...

[Eastcoasthandle]

IMO, we need to be mindful that the P5W DH Deluxe was more geared for P4 and E6000 series CPUs (better OC'ing the dual core then quad) using PC6400 ram. After going from that to a X38 using a E8400 a performance increase at the same OC was found. I don't think I have the pics any more it's been a while.

[Korgan]

If ASUS doesn't come out with a better BIOS than 2704 for 45nm, then maybe I'll get a new MB, but it won't be from ASUS...

My board did 455Mhz FSB with 1.65v on the north bridge with an E8400. Thats with 4-4-4-12 timings and 2704 beta bios.

See pic => http://lordm.net/files/korgan-ownage/410.JPG

I think you have to check your settings i BIOS one more time.

[Leeghoofd]

Korgan not all P5W boards went as good, not even guruanteed on the newer MCH improved versions, I had the luck to be owner of one with 440FSB out of the bios, but sadly it died due to some electrical powercuts at my place, the RMA board was a newer rev but didn't clock as good... went to the Striker then (worst decision ever lol)
Peeps that have this board for a long time must be happy it still supports the newer rev CPU's... OC'ing is never certified and varies from board to board, user to user,... and if ya want to push these CPU's hard more bios options are required which the P5W really lacks (but all boards of it's age do)

[Xeon Zombie]

Hi All,

I am currently running the P5W w/ 2GB or RAM. I have run it with as much as 4GB in the past. I have recently been working with multiple VM's under Vista x64 (Disregard my sig, no longer running OSX), and MAN does it get bogged down easily. I am looking to upgrade to an 8GB kit, as it's so darn cheap, but wondering if anyone has had issues w/ 4x2GB kits on this board?

Here are the modules I am looking at, as I have had very good luck with G.Skill in the past, and right now I am looking at value over decadence. :)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231145

I welcome any thoughts, suggestions, opinions, etc.

THANKS!

[Leeghoofd]

:up:Hi All,

Here are the modules I am looking at, as I have had very good luck with G.Skill in the past, and right now I am looking at value over decadence. :)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231145

I welcome any thoughts, suggestions, opinions, etc.

THANKS!

In any case these are great Dimms at a very fair price... and they will give ya some headroom in case you ever tend to replace ya P5W with another 775 DDR2 mobo... I would try one kit first and see how they run...

I love these dimms top notch hardware :up:

[mikepaul]

I think you have to check your settings i BIOS one more time.
I reset the CMOS after flasing 2704 and had everything at Auto. After various mysterious crashes I noticed that the vCore was reported as low as 1.07V by CPU-Z. Other people on the Web posted that underclocking helped, and so that's what now workes for me. I am not thrilled with 2704 not offering around 1.3V as an option...

[MINIz guy]

Hi All,

I am currently running the P5W w/ 2GB or RAM. I have run it with as much as 4GB in the past. I have recently been working with multiple VM's under Vista x64 (Disregard my sig, no longer running OSX), and MAN does it get bogged down easily. I am looking to upgrade to an 8GB kit, as it's so darn cheap, but wondering if anyone has had issues w/ 4x2GB kits on this board?

Here are the modules I am looking at, as I have had very good luck with G.Skill in the past, and right now I am looking at value over decadence. :)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231145

I welcome any thoughts, suggestions, opinions, etc.

THANKS!
Check the G.Skill section of this forum in the compatibility section. There has been a user there saying that the kit you're looking at won't work.

[MacClipper]

I reset the CMOS after flasing 2704 and had everything at Auto. After various mysterious crashes I noticed that the vCore was reported as low as 1.07V by CPU-Z. Other people on the Web posted that underclocking helped, and so that's what now workes for me. I am not thrilled with 2704 not offering around 1.3V as an option...
From the reading of several posts, the Vcore issues with 2704 may be related to the revision of the mobo, older revisions appear to have more problems with 45nm cores - which rev. is your mobo?

[Falkentyne]

2704 gave me 1.225v as the lowest setting for my QX9650, the same as anything from 2302 (the first that worked) and newer. Is it only E8400s that won't go lower than 1.4v? I thought I saw someone say that 2406 gave the normal 1.225+v range, but when they went to 2602+, the lowest vcore was 1.4v, but i don't remember if that's true or not....

[mikepaul]

2704 gave me 1.225v as the lowest setting for my QX9650, the same as anything from 2302 (the first that worked) and newer. Is it only E8400s that won't go lower than 1.4v? I thought I saw someone say that 2406 gave the normal 1.225+v range, but when they went to 2602+, the lowest vcore was 1.4v, but i don't remember if that's true or not....
Maybe they have a table of values for each supported CPU, and the current table isn't good enough for a Q9450. Maybe it's time to get a hex editor and look around.

Thanks...

[Yolanda]

My board can set all voltage from 1.225 to 1.7v on E8500 dualcore, board revision 1.04G

[riiaku]

I dont remember who it was, but I'm too lazy to find out, about who recommended me the corsair 4gigs 4-4-4-12 ram, wow it fuggin screams. I couldnt run 3.2 gigaherts at 4-4-4-12, but i am able to run 3.0 gigahertz, at 4-4-4-12, at a 1:1 ratio which id DDR7XX, dont remember. But I also wanted to know if increasing the ddr memory speed to the 9XX speeds would impede my OC? Would that work or no?

[Yolanda]

Mm get 4,18GHz fully stable at FSB 440 with my new E8500: 1.425V at CPU, 1.75V at MCH. Only set these voltages, test several hours, later I try to test at lower voltage.

11.145sec Super PI 1M, 73k in 3DMark 2001, seems to be nice for old 975 board?

PS. My old E6750 can't work at FSB 440 at nominal or even at lowerst 6x multiplier, so it wasn't limitation from mb, that I think, it was limitation from CPU wall.

[Popopinsel]

Hi All,

I am currently running the P5W w/ 2GB or RAM. I have run it with as much as 4GB in the past. I have recently been working with multiple VM's under Vista x64 (Disregard my sig, no longer running OSX), and MAN does it get bogged down easily. I am looking to upgrade to an 8GB kit, as it's so darn cheap, but wondering if anyone has had issues w/ 4x2GB kits on this board?

Here are the modules I am looking at, as I have had very good luck with G.Skill in the past, and right now I am looking at value over decadence. :)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231145

I welcome any thoughts, suggestions, opinions, etc.

THANKS!

Check the G.Skill section of this forum in the compatibility section. There has been a user there saying that the kit you're looking at won't work.

They are working like a charm here on P5W DH and E6600 (BIOS 2504)!

[Xeon Zombie]

Check the G.Skill section of this forum in the compatibility section. There has been a user there saying that the kit you're looking at won't work.

Well, I pulled the trigger on the 4x2GB Gskill modules...

I installed them last night. Had to clear the CMOS to get it to boot, and them enable the remap feature, but after that it was smooth sailing! I have the system at stock speeds at present, as I haven't had the time to "re-overclock" it, but it'll give me something to do tonight.

I'll tell you, say what you will about Vista, but wih a "mere" 8GB of RAM, it FLIES!!! Way faster than XP!

Thanks!

[MINIz guy]

Nice :)

I just recently ordered a 4GB kit of Corsair XMS2 DHX. I had trouble turning it on the first time, but I did get it to work without resetting the CMOS.

Now, at proper voltages and timings, I'm having trouble with my overclock (Code 1 in OCCT). I was able to get 413FSB @ 1.3375v in BIOS and have my Hynix FP-C4 RAM boot at 310MHz. Now, I can't get 410 FSB at 1.35v with 410MHz on the Corsair (still Code 1 in OCCT). I tried to up the MCH voltage (from 1.55v to 1.65v) , but that was a no go.

Any ideas out there?

Edit: Runing an E6300 and BIOS 2004. Would an updated BIOS be helpful, and if so, which one?

[kernelOfTruth]

hi to all the other p5w dh owners :)

They are working like a charm here on P5W DH and E6600 (BIOS 2504)!

ah - nice, thanks :up:

I just got 2 pairs of them on the way to my rig :rocker:

I'm learning more and more to cherish this board :bows:

@lawrywild, guys:

any news on a newer bios version or is the 2504 / 2004 the last nicely working one ?

thanks in advance

[Xeon Zombie]

I dont remember who it was, but I'm too lazy to find out, about who recommended me the corsair 4gigs 4-4-4-12 ram, wow it fuggin screams. I couldnt run 3.2 gigaherts at 4-4-4-12, but i am able to run 3.0 gigahertz, at 4-4-4-12, at a 1:1 ratio which id DDR7XX, dont remember. But I also wanted to know if increasing the ddr memory speed to the 9XX speeds would impede my OC? Would that work or no?

I believe it may have been me who recommended them, as I was using thos in my system up until two days ago... fast huh? :)

To add some insight to your question - higher frequency does not always mean higher performance with DDR2. For instance DDR2 800 w/ tight timings will almost always beat DDR2 1000 with looser timings. Even DDR2 667 with tight timings can beat out much "faster" memory.

As for your OC, I ran these modules at 945MHz to bring my OC to 3.4GHz (9x378) timings were still good enough to be worth it at this speed. I'd have kept these modules if I didn't need so much RAM for the work I am doing these days. Ended up upgrading to 8GB G.Skill.

P.S. Vista LOVES 8GB RAM!! It is sooo much faster than XP now for a lot of things. Superfetch is awesome if you have enough memeory for it to not bog down your system.

[Xeon Zombie]

hi to all the other p5w dh owners :)



ah - nice, thanks :up:

I just got 2 pairs of them on the way to my rig :rocker:

I'm learning more and more to cherish this board :bows:

@lawrywild, guys:

any news on a newer bios version or is the 2504 / 2004 the last nicely working one ?

thanks in advance

You're going to love them. I am running them now and WOW what a difference. Check out Tom's Hardware, they ran some tests w/ vista and 8GB of RAM that are pretty interesting.

[MINIz guy]

:mad: I didn't buy those just because of one user report...now I'm starting to regret my Corsair purchase. Those clock much higher than my new Corsairs, at the same price!

[riiaku]

I believe it may have been me who recommended them, as I was using thos in my system up until two days ago... fast huh? :)

To add some insight to your question - higher frequency does not always mean higher performance with DDR2. For instance DDR2 800 w/ tight timings will almost always beat DDR2 1000 with looser timings. Even DDR2 667 with tight timings can beat out much "faster" memory.

As for your OC, I ran these modules at 945MHz to bring my OC to 3.4GHz (9x378) timings were still good enough to be worth it at this speed. I'd have kept these modules if I didn't need so much RAM for the work I am doing these days. Ended up upgrading to 8GB G.Skill.

P.S. Vista LOVES 8GB RAM!! It is sooo much faster than XP now for a lot of things. Superfetch is awesome if you have enough memeory for it to not bog down your system.
Why didnt you just buy another 4gig pack from Corsair? and double it up?

[Ambress]

Hello all,

For anyone having trouble disabling EIST with the 2704 BIOS, I too had that issue after deciding somewhat unnecessarily to upgrade. My system hung on a reboot for uncertain reasons but what I think may have had to do with a powered USB hub (I'm learning USB isn't as foolproof as it so often seems), and in trying to pin the problem down I also updated the BIOS. But, then things got worse when I found I couldn't restore the settings I usually overclock my system at, because I could never change Vcore due to EIST not being disabled. When I looked for it and couldn't find it, I was very puzzled and was about to go back to 2602 when I stumbled across the solution.

Apparently, the 2704 BIOS has been changed such that if you first enable Ratio Support, EIST is automatically disabled. While you would thus expect having EIST auto-disabled and manually disabling C1 control SHOULD allow manual Vcore control, that does not appear to be true. I would consider this a minor bug in the BIOS. However, by leaving the Ratio Support disabled so that EIST remained an available option in the BIOS, disabling it, then enabling Ratio Support (EIST becomes hidden as the result), and finally disabling C1 control, full control over Vcore is available.

Hope that's of help to someone.

Daryl

[Yolanda]

At last test E8500 on P5W DH Deluxe and get 2 stable modes with lowest voltages tested for many hours:

4.04GHz: FSB425 MCH 1.65V CPU 1.37V
4.20GHz: FSB443 MCH 1.75V CPU 1.5V

(Edited CPU voltages, now after 24hour Prime95 test)

Also start at FSB460 with MCH 1.85V, count 1M SuperPI (10.6sec), play several games for while, but don't want to take for a long test with such high voltage

[freeza]

Damn, you're lucky.

I can only get up to FSB400 with the e8400 bringing it up to 3.6 ghz.

And i had to underclock my G.Skill to 600 mhz....

EDIT: I re-read an earlier post of yours, reverted all of my settings back to auto except for the two you said to change and am up to 3825 mhz with the e8400 at 425 mhz FSB :)

awesome. RAM is still clocked in the 600 mhz range. i forgot what exactly.

But if this remains stable then I would like to thank you, Yolanda!

[Leeghoofd]

Damn, you're lucky.

And i had to underclock my G.Skill to 600 mhz....

EDIT: I re-read an earlier post of yours, reverted all of my settings back to auto except for the two you said to change and am up to 3825 mhz with the e8400 at 425 mhz FSB :)

awesome. RAM is still clocked in the 600 mhz range.

Ya ram will be at 850mhz then at least... you reading out the 600mhz where ? Glad the board is still performing quite strong, but plz be carefull with the MCH voltage...

[freeza]

You wouldn't recommend running @ 1.75 for MCH?

What're the risks?

And I had to underclock the ram for all 8gb of it to work. It simply wasn't stable @ 800 mhz with all 4 slots filled up.

[Yolanda]

The same with RAM, mb have serious problems with memory at FSB400 and 4 RAM modules. My 2*1GB Hynix'05 work best with frequirences upto 900MHz, I buy another 2*1GB labeled Hynix'07 , they can reach even 1GHz, but all 4 modules can't work at even nominal 800MHz, then FSB is 400(1600), only at lower 600MHz multiplier they all can work, so I returned new modules back.

[kernelOfTruth]

You're going to love them. I am running them now and WOW what a difference. Check out Tom's Hardware, they ran some tests w/ vista and 8GB of RAM that are pretty interesting.

yeah, they're pretty fast & stable :clap:

before I switch to any x64 windows flavor (currently xp home) I need to check for driver support, ...

You wouldn't recommend running @ 1.75 for MCH?

What're the risks?

And I had to underclock the ram for all 8gb of it to work. It simply wasn't stable @ 800 mhz with all 4 slots filled up.

perhaps switching back to 2504 bios helps ?

it's running fine here with 889 MHz: stable & no errors in memtest86+ :up:

I've disabled speedstep & some other un-needed stuff, disabling hyperpath also might help

currently the FSB is set to 266 (instead of 300) so this also might be an instability factor ...

good luck :YIPPIE:

[nicko]

The same with RAM, mb have serious problems with memory at FSB400 and 4 RAM modules. My 2*1GB Hynix'05 work best with frequirences upto 900MHz, I buy another 2*1GB labeled Hynix'07 , they can reach even 1GHz, but all 4 modules can't work at even nominal 800MHz, then FSB is 400(1600), only at lower 600MHz multiplier they all can work, so I returned new modules back.

That's quite normal. Chipset is struggling with 4 modules cause density of modules. Actually, it's excellent they're working at all at 400mhz fsb. Try to raise MCH voltage a little bit and see would that help ;)

[freeza]

My MCH is set to 1.65 volts. But, Leeghoofd said to be careful with a 1.75 MCH so i brought it back to 1.65

[Yolanda]

That's quite normal. Chipset is struggling with 4 modules cause density of modules. Actually, it's excellent they're working at all at 400mhz fsb. Try to raise MCH voltage a little bit and see would that help ;)

Nothing can help to work 4 modules at FSB 400 at full 800MHz speed. Even rising memory voltage or MCH voltage. At FSB 333 or lower they all can work and can be overclocked. Maybe only some exteme latency modules can work at 400FSB, but I haven't them. But it's easier to use very cheep 2*2GB if needed 4GB of RAM, WinXP users can be happy steel with 2*1GB. 8GB (4*2) it's for some special programs, not much need it, or can lower memory frequirency.

[nicko]

Nothing can help to work 4 modules at FSB 400 at full 800MHz speed. Even rising memory voltage or MCH voltage. At FSB 333 or lower they all can work and can be overclocked. Maybe only some exteme latency modules can work at 400FSB, but I haven't them. But it's easier to use very cheep 2*2GB if needed 4GB of RAM, WinXP users can be happy steel with 2*1GB. 8GB (4*2) it's for some special programs, not much need it, or can lower memory frequirency.

It's all about chipset and high density memory modules. Memory itself it's not a problem (if it's compatible). You may also try loosen your latency (i.e. CL5 or CL6) and try again. Err..actually, you must Enable timings by SPD cause of mobo restrictions. If you have some other modules with SPD @ CL5, you may try that if it helps.

But as you said, programs which use 8gb ram, IMHO it's not that big difference in ~200mhz...

[cherrypik]

Will I notice a difference if I add a second 3870 to this MB? I mainly play COD4, BF2 and Cyris? Also, I have a Corsair 520 psu, will I need to upgrade if I CF 3870's?

[Yolanda]

Read more reviews about Crossfire on ATI 3850-3870 or about ATI 3870X2, perfomance will be the same as you can reach on P5W. 520W is quite normal for the such system. Also you can wait for next generation ATI 4850-4870, which will be released this summer.

[R@ptor =]]]

Yolanda, how much voltage you are using on northbridge to reach this fsb in your signature??
you change fsb termination voltage?
thanks

[Yolanda]

Raptor, 1,75V. Haven't ever change FSB termination, always set it to Auto.

But I have some problems with Prime95, then begin 24hour tests, I notice that after several hours it fails with error, but always on thread 2. So I have to increase CPU Vcore and get strange results, as I post 4209MHz can run without erros in all other programs and tests, running many hours of 3DMark, gaming or in Prime tests for 1-2 hours with only 1.4V, but 24hour test can be done only with 1,5V Vcore. Maybe some problems with second CPU core, as only it fails and it wants more voltage?) I edited my last post on last page, it's now with 100% working parameters.

So I decided that 1,5V Vcore too high for 24/7 (My E8500 nominal is 1,225V, 1.5V it's nominal of my old Athlon64 3400+ builded on very old 130nm process, but 1,75V on MCH also not so nice as many say, however there is no much statictics of mb fails at such voltage) and now use 4037MHz with FSB 425, MCH voltage 1,65V, CPU voltage 1,37V. Yesterday and this night test it and now think this is the end of my investigations on this platform.

I have 40mm 5000rpm fan, after applaying it, MCH hot is lower than on default FSB 333 and voltage set to Auto (1,5 or 1,55V).
After working FSB 442-443: FSB 444 and FSB 445 can't work, CPU starts at unnormal frequirences such as 500-800MHz. Later try FSB 460, it starts only with MCH voltage 1.85V, only run several tests for several minutes, always was OK, but don't want to test Prime 95 for hours on such voltage, and I think it will be unstable. At FSB 463 can only take screenshot :) But as you ask, I haven't ever change FSB termination voltage, so there is a possibility of getting something higher, however as CPU needs 1.5V at 4200MHz it will want something about 1.6V at higher clock, so it's for benching only.

[R@ptor =]]]

guys, I was trying to improve the overclock in my memories. I was testing some frequencies, voltages. After set a high frequency, 1200mhz, boot the machine has everything normal, but when they would start to load the windows, appeared a black screen, saying that a file of the windows had been broken, and the message asked to insert the disk windows to correct the problem. I restarted the machine, and I returned to the stock settings in bios, and windows loaded everything normal. It may have been some corruption?

[Yolanda]

Don't worry, if everything later is fine, it's only unstable operation under unstable frequncies.

[mikepaul]

Is there a history of SATA ports on a DH Deluxe going bad, or are SATA drives disappearing from Windows a sign the end is near for the disk itself?

I have changed SATA cables, and swapped power leads, but two 500GB SATAdrives continue to appear and disappear whenever they want. The last cable swap kept my M: drive quiet for a few weeks, but now that I haven't gone back in to change something, it reappears when I reboot but I get a delayed write error if I use it then it's gone again.

I'd blame 2704 but I haven't broken down and connected one of the drives to the RAID card I use for swappable HDs just to see if it is my MB going bad. I figure if every connector exhibits the problem then it's really the drive(s), but they aen't that old and I have a 120MM fan in the front of the case blowing over them all the time...

[Yolanda]

I haven't such problems, but didn't ever use RAID on P5W. Have four different SATA HDDs, everything is OK. Maybe try to change SATA mode from IDE to AHCI or back? Or update AHCI/RAID Intel driver? Latest version was released a few days ago.

[mikepaul]

I'm not using the RAID-specific ports, but I would if they can support individual drives. I never noticed a way to tell them they aren't some sort of RAID. The cheap RAID card I got at Best Buy so I could hot-swap drives in one of my SATA trays is happy set to BIG with only one drive attached, but I'm not sure that's completely kosher.

I moved the M: drive from one MB connector to another again last night, so I'll see how long that lets me write to the drive without issues. That SATA Blu-Ray burner that arrives today may not be happy with its new home...

The LG GGW-H20L is OK, although I now need a video card upgrade to play HDDVDs smoothly. Whatever my SATA issue is, it goes away when I move the connectors to new locations then, so far, comes back later as missing drives. All fixed again until next time...

[Pawelek]

Hello everyone !

Recently I've observed some weird issue about my BIOS. After I disconnect my psu from the electrical network (simply by switching the button off) for night time BIOS loses datetime data. I have to press f1 and set new values. After that the computer starts to work properly and everything is fine till I switch it off for next night. Moreover I have to admit that all the rest BIOS datas keep their proper values (timings, DRAM volatges, raid settings and so on). During my investigation I have already exchanged the battery cell without any result. Could you can help me please?

Regards Pawelek

P.S.
I've created the same thread on the official asus forum, but still without any reasonable solution :(

[vMax1965]

Hi everyone,

Some help required. I have the following setup: Asus P5W DH motherboard bios 2504, Q6600 not G0, OCZ Reaper 4x2 8gb (did I really need that much memory? my excuse is it was cheap) memory running on Vista 64. I have succesfully overclocked to 3GHz but cannot go any further. I would like to get to 3.2 GHz but all my attempts have failed. System becomes unstable at anything over 3GHz, tried increasing voltages but not sure hi high I can go or would want to go. Can someone help me out?

Current Bios info

CPU frequency [333], Dram [DDR2 - 1000MHz], Performance = Auto, PCI Express = Auto, PCI Clock = Auto, Memory Voltage = 2.10V, CPU Core = Auto, FSB Termination = Auto, MCH = Auto, ICH = Auto, Modify ratio = Disabled, Microcode = Enabled, Max CPU Disabled, Enhanced C1 = Disabled, Virtulisation = Disabled, Speedstep = Disabled.

[Lurker246]

Hi everyone,

Some help required. I have the following setup: Asus P5W DH motherboard bios 2504, Q6600 not G0, OCZ Reaper 4x2 8gb (did I really need that much memory? my excuse is it was cheap) memory running on Vista 64. I have succesfully overclocked to 3GHz but cannot go any further. I would like to get to 3.2 GHz but all my attempts have failed. System becomes unstable at anything over 3GHz, tried increasing voltages but not sure hi high I can go or would want to go. Can someone help me out?

Current Bios info

CPU frequency [333], Dram [DDR2 - 1000MHz], Performance = Auto, PCI Express = Auto, PCI Clock = Auto, Memory Voltage = 2.10V, CPU Core = Auto, FSB Termination = Auto, MCH = Auto, ICH = Auto, Modify ratio = Disabled, Microcode = Enabled, Max CPU Disabled, Enhanced C1 = Disabled, Virtulisation = Disabled, Speedstep = Disabled.

I'm sure Vista will make the most of 8GB of memory :D I turned my pagefile off with 4GB and it started complaining about running low on memory when playing some games....8GB here I come.

Unfortunately 333 X 9 seems to be the limit for most Quads. I've seen a couple of people reach 3.2Ghz on the P5W but there just the lucky ones :p:

I can hit 3.2 Ghz 356 X 9 @ 1.4V but it's nowhere near stable.

[vMax1965]

Thanks Lurker, i'm sure your right, it's been a good stable Mobo, but I think it's time to get a P35 mobo I think.

I'm sure Vista will make the most of 8GB of memory :D I turned my pagefile off with 4GB and it started complaining about running low on memory when playing some games....8GB here I come.

Unfortunately 333 X 9 seems to be the limit for most Quads. I've seen a couple of people reach 3.2Ghz on the P5W but there just the lucky ones :p:

I can hit 3.2 Ghz 356 X 9 @ 1.4V but it's nowhere near stable.

[DBest1]

is there a good guide that anyone can recomend that will help me with overclocking memory and the Q6600 on this mobo? i have done the Q6600 to 3Ghz so far by setting the FSB and it seems stable,,but im not too sure with the memory and knowing what the best settings are, im not too sure what the memory is, is there any way that i can see what is available for the memory to be overclocked too?

thanks!

[Chocolate Pi]

Hey guys, typically a lurker, popped in to about my latest OC attempts on this board... I mean, they seem terrible.

I currently have a Q9450 @ 375x8 (3.00) with 2 way underclocked GSkill DIMMS. I am currently at 1.5 Vcore, 1.60 MCH... and I'm barely boot stable. Core temp is reporting ~58 C Idle to boot.

Unless I have bizarre expectations, this seems obviously horrible. Any idea? Do I just have the world's lamest Q9450?

UPDATE: So, 3.00 crashed, and I'm back to all stock. My cores are 45-52 C idle, and I am NOT Prime stable... Something is amiss.

[mikepaul]

I'm running my Q9450 at 2.32Ghz (290 FSB) to maintian some sort of stability, and even then it crashed tonight on some Flash website. AUTO settings, but RAM at 4-4-4-12 @ PC-4300.

If a new BIOS comes along, I hope to get more stability, since a new MB is planned only for the next generation of CPU, not this one...

[Leeghoofd]

For all the guys running quads , just buy a different mobo lads if you want to OC, max FSB I got running my Q6600 was 333FSB stable with ram at 800mhz...without pushing chipset votages too much... On a seond note the P5W was at start barely core2 duo ready... seems to me already nice this old mobo runs these new CPU's at stock... for the 9450 users a new bios might be able to run them stock soon...

[radlord]

Oh. Does that only apply to the quads, or the newer Duo's as well?

I currently run an E6600 at 3ghz at stock voltage, but am thinking about getting an E8400. It wouldn't be worth getting it if I can't overclock it as easily. Could I just bump up the FSB a bit like I did with the 6600 or would it be unlikely to work?

[Yolanda]

My E8500 works at 4.04GHz 24/7 CPU 1,37V MCH 1,6V
4,2GHz also possible with higher voltage, 1,5V CPU, MCH 1,7V
I write about it several posts above on this page

[Leeghoofd]

Is that booted from Bios Yolanda or SetFSB ? as 445FSB is pretty rare out of the box with the P5W... most users will top around 400-425 here with ram at tight timings

[Yolanda]

From BIOS, I can't change timings, only by SPD possible with 5-6-6-18 mode. However ~420 was the limit with old 65nm E6750 CPU, but with this new 45nm board can work at higher FSB.

[bugmenot_user]

does i have to worry about the 65 celcius temp on my 6600 clocked @ 3GHZ (9x333)

[lawrywild]

Nope, 65 is fine, as long as you meant under load and not idle.

[bugmenot_user]

yeah, its arround 57-69. But i cant get how some ppl have 30-35c

[SpRoX]

I can't get my P5W DH to boot! There is no postscr or anything. I have had that problem a few times before. But if I clear bios and move the gfx (an old pci card) around a bit, it usually starts again...

Yesterday after I changed cpu, from an E6300 -> Celeron 347, I couldn't get it to boot. So I changed back to the E6300, but still no boot. I tried a couple of times and suddenly I got the "Boot Block Compatible Version Ver.021..." msg. I didn't have a cd og usb stick with the bios on, so I turned off the system and haven't been able to boot since! :(

Any suggestions, plz?

[Yolanda]

Get board from the case and setup it on the table with minimum peripherals, maybe it helps as you say you have problems with PCI card in slot

[radlord]

Guys, could you please help me with this if you can.

Vista won't go to sleep or hibernate properly.

For sleep it just turns the monitor off and that's it. For hibernate it will pretty much look like it's working then freak out when it's restarting, black screen and all the fans roaring at me.

All BIOS stuff turned on, all drivers up-to-date.

For some reason I think it might be to do with the awful ASUS software I had installed briefly. Specifically this 'ATK ACPI 0110K Utility' device in the device manager that won't go away, but I've no idea really.

Does anyone else have problems with sleep etc in Vista with this board? It's Vista x64 SP1.

[radlord]

Oh, and it worked perfectly under XP :(

[Random Murderer]

Guys, could you please help me with this if you can.

Vista won't go to sleep or hibernate properly.

For sleep it just turns the monitor off and that's it. For hibernate it will pretty much look like it's working then freak out when it's restarting, black screen and all the fans roaring at me.

All BIOS stuff turned on, all drivers up-to-date.

For some reason I think it might be to do with the awful ASUS software I had installed briefly. Specifically this 'ATK ACPI 0110K Utility' device in the device manager that won't go away, but I've no idea really.

Does anyone else have problems with sleep etc in Vista with this board? It's Vista x64 SP1.

this was fixed in one of the latest bios updates, i believe it was 21xx or something...

[radlord]

damn. Well it's not fixed for me, and I'm on the 2704 one or whatever it is :(

Do you think it could be anything to do with that AHCP driver thing? I saw on the set-up guide on the official forums that they tell you not to install anything like that (it appears in windows update) unless you're using the AiBooster program. If I uninstall it, the device is still there in device manager and bugs me to install a driver for it every time I start up!

Anyone had problems with this or am i barking up the wrong tree? It's just I defiantly have the latest BIOS. It's happened all the way through all the BIOSs I've had since I 'upgraded' to Vista.

[DBest1]

does any one know if this board will take the GTX280??

[JustusIV]

Its possible to run a raid 0 as an os drive, then a raid 5 for storage right on the mobos raid controllers correct?

[nicko]

does any one know if this board will take the GTX280??

Why wouldn't it?!


Its possible to run a raid 0 as an os drive, then a raid 5 for storage right on the mobos raid controllers correct?

IMHO no.

Can you run E8400 at stock voltage? Does mobo allow you that?

[Yolanda]

Found that board can't change multiplier on 45nm CPU. It gives me options: 6, 7, 8 and 9 for my E8500, without any X.5 options, but then I restart with any multiplier, board can't start. It even can't restarts automatically with fail save settings as it always starts after failed oveclocking, so I have to open the case and use Clear CMOS jumper. After that board starts and offers any multiplier from 6 to 20, also non of then can be used, after restart this wide range closes to 6 to 9.

Not to affraid somebody wanted to buy 45nm CPU, it works perfectly with native multiplier even if it is X.5, as my 9.5. Simply don't change any options with multiplier. It works only on 65nm CPUs.

[DBest1]

Why wouldn't it?!

Thought that it might have some issues, has any1 bought it yet? what memory would you recomend? i have a Q6600 runin at 3.1 Stable , im lookin at G.skill...maybe 8MB as im runin Vista 64 but also dual boot to XP 32, so games will be in vista as XP is my 3D / web system..

ne susgestions?!

[Random Murderer]

Thought that it might have some issues, has any1 bought it yet? what memory would you recomend? i have a Q6600 runin at 3.1 Stable , im lookin at G.skill...maybe 8MB as im runin Vista 64 but also dual boot to XP 32, so games will be in vista as XP is my 3D / web system..

ne susgestions?!

i'm on gskill and would recommend it to anyone.

[Chrysalis]

well now its summer my cpu is at 35 idle (was 25 in winter) and about 45 under load.

[DBest1]

i'm on gskill and would recommend it to anyone.

Where and how much and what amount you have :P? also, do you think it will make much of a diff to my current system? my current ram is crappy PC WORLD stuff at the mo, not very good at OC'ing

[Random Murderer]

Where and how much and what amount you have :P? also, do you think it will make much of a diff to my current system? my current ram is crappy PC WORLD stuff at the mo, not very good at OC'ing

i'm on 4x 1G sitcks of the nq. i recommend getting the hz's(black heatspreaders) since you're inexperienced with overclocking. the hz's have micron d9 chips and are a breeze to oc.

[DBest1]

i'm on 4x 1G sitcks of the nq. i recommend getting the hz's(black heatspreaders) since you're inexperienced with overclocking. the hz's have micron d9 chips and are a breeze to oc.

hmm,, im lookin to smak in 8GB alltogether, so maybe 4GB at a time, will these really give me the best performance if i decide to get the GTX280 to?

[radlord]

does nobody have any ideas about my Sleep problems? It's incredibly annoying. It happens on a fresh install of Vista too.

Ive tinkered around with it, and I now have it so that when 'allow hybrid sleep' is not checked, the Hibernate option seems to work fine. I don't really want to go through the hassle of starting up the computer every time though. When it IS checked the Hibernate option isn't there, but now the Sleep option seems to work for a second, then the computer just powers up again with the fans roaring, and needs to be reset.

I've gone through all the WakeArmed stuff in the command prompt, nothing is set to wake the PC apart from my PS2 keyboard :(

[DBest1]

I was looking to get a pair of these,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231145

any one know what these are like, im pretty sure some one said that these are good?

[Falkentyne]

Multiplier adjustments work fine on an extreme edition 45nm chip (QX9650) although no .5 multipliers, but I guess the non XE chips handle multipliers differently, thus the problem? I never used a 65nm non XE chip, so I don't know how it functioned on those....

I thought you couldn't change multipliers on non XE's? Or did non XE's always have a limited adjustment?

[Leeghoofd]

Multiplier adjustments work fine on an extreme edition 45nm chip (QX9650) although no .5 multipliers, but I guess the non XE chips handle multipliers differently, thus the problem? I never used a 65nm non XE chip, so I don't know how it functioned on those....

I thought you couldn't change multipliers on non XE's? Or did non XE's always have a limited adjustment?

You can always go lower on any Intel CPU till the lowest multi 6X, but with the Extreme CPU's you have the possibility to go higher than the stock multi...

Eg Q6700 : multis from 6-10
Qx6700 : multis from 6- eg 20

[JimmyDDD]

I have a problem with using the P5W DH Deluxe with the Q9300. I recently was using the Q6600 with X64 windows vista. I replaced the cpu, whenever i replace the cpu, the bios say no cpu detected and I click load default system settings and I get into windows fine. But that is only the first time. Afterwards, whenever I go to windows x64 i would get stop errors, even when I try to setup vista I would get stop errors. I do not know why this happens. Everything is tight. So the only way for me to use my pc is to plug my old q6600 in then take it back out then put my q9300 back in until it says new cpu detected then I use my computer. As soon as I shut it off and/or restart my pc, the computer it would not work and I would get all types of stop errors like driver_irq_not_less_or equal or page fault in non paged area. I don't know why Iget this errors. I apprecaite any help you can provide. I already updated to the latest version of the bios for the P5W DH Deluxe MB .thanks

[Yolanda]

Multiplier adjustments work fine on an extreme edition 45nm chip (QX9650) although no .5 multipliers, but I guess the non XE chips handle multipliers differently, thus the problem? I never used a 65nm non XE chip, so I don't know how it functioned on those....

I thought you couldn't change multipliers on non XE's? Or did non XE's always have a limited adjustment?

65nm E6750 lowers multiplier to 7 or 6 without errors, but 45nm E8500 can't change them. I think it's because non-XE chips have locked multiplier, but ability to lower it leads not from an open multilplier to lower numbers, but from using Intel power saving features on such chips in this unnormal way. On 45nm CPU board haven't any such features in BIOS, so they don't work if wanted to change multiplier.

[Yolanda]

I have a problem with using the P5W DH Deluxe with the Q9300. I recently was using the Q6600 with X64 windows vista. I replaced the cpu, whenever i replace the cpu, the bios say no cpu detected and I click load default system settings and I get into windows fine. But that is only the first time. Afterwards, whenever I go to windows x64 i would get stop errors, even when I try to setup vista I would get stop errors. I do not know why this happens. Everything is tight. So the only way for me to use my pc is to plug my old q6600 in then take it back out then put my q9300 back in until it says new cpu detected then I use my computer. As soon as I shut it off and/or restart my pc, the computer it would not work and I would get all types of stop errors like driver_irq_not_less_or equal or page fault in non paged area. I don't know why Iget this errors. I apprecaite any help you can provide. I already updated to the latest version of the bios for the P5W DH Deluxe MB .thanks

Then I change my E6750 to E8500, board loads with No CPU detected message and frequirency about ~500MHz. So I load setup defaults and everything is ok. Try maybe to clear CMOS by jumper. See also voltages, maybe add some. Simply don't know how to help, try this standart steps first.

[JimmyDDD]

I found something interesting, when I installed 1 stick of 1 GB ram, my system boots flawlessly. But as soon as I installed more than 1 GB ram it doesn't work. Same thing I tried buying new ram from the store and same result. Any solutions anyone

[Lurker246]

does nobody have any ideas about my Sleep problems? It's incredibly annoying. It happens on a fresh install of Vista too.

Ive tinkered around with it, and I now have it so that when 'allow hybrid sleep' is not checked, the Hibernate option seems to work fine. I don't really want to go through the hassle of starting up the computer every time though. When it IS checked the Hibernate option isn't there, but now the Sleep option seems to work for a second, then the computer just powers up again with the fans roaring, and needs to be reset.

I've gone through all the WakeArmed stuff in the command prompt, nothing is set to wake the PC apart from my PS2 keyboard :(


What USB devices are plugged into the board on the back panel?

Test it with a PS2 mouse & keyboard plugged in and no usb devices attached.

[radlord]

Still happens man :(

Everything is unplugged at the back except the PS2 mouse and keyboard. powercfg -lastwake doesn't appear to be registering it as a wake, but weirdly when I reset the computer when all the fans are roaring etc it starts up and all my windows etc are open as they should be as if it's returned from sleep with no problems :(

So was this a known problem that was supposed to have been fixed by ASUS? Do you think it might be a Vista thing rather than a BIOS thing then?

Also, can someone point me at the relevant sections in Eventviewer that might pount to what is causing this? It's rather labyrinthine and I'm not sure I'm looking in the right place in there!

Cheers :)

[Lurker246]

Still happens man :(

Everything is unplugged at the back except the PS2 mouse and keyboard. powercfg -lastwake doesn't appear to be registering it as a wake, but weirdly when I reset the computer when all the fans are roaring etc it starts up and all my windows etc are open as they should be as if it's returned from sleep with no problems :(

So was this a known problem that was supposed to have been fixed by ASUS? Do you think it might be a Vista thing rather than a BIOS thing then?

Also, can someone point me at the relevant sections in Eventviewer that might pount to what is causing this? It's rather labyrinthine and I'm not sure I'm looking in the right place in there!

Cheers :)

That is a real strange one :confused: Sorry I can't help. I had similar issues with hibernation in XP 32-bit a few months back, but it's worked fine for me since I went to Vista 64-bit.

[radlord]

hmmm. Annoying.

thanks for your help anyway!

There seems to be a couple of threads on the offical ASUS forum for the P5W about this, and those have gone unanswered too.

[JimmyDDD]

What is the proper configuration for configuring a Q9300 with P5W DH Deluxe? There is no multiplier for 7.5 but just 7 and 8. and for the fsb is it 333?

[Yolanda]

7.5 will be automatically set by CPU, fsb 333

[Yolanda]

I found something interesting, when I installed 1 stick of 1 GB ram, my system boots flawlessly. But as soon as I installed more than 1 GB ram it doesn't work. Same thing I tried buying new ram from the store and same result. Any solutions anyone

So I think you have problems with memory, not with CPU. How many modules do you have and what their timings and frequirency?

If you have mostly useable pair of 2*1GB PC2-6400 or other 800MHz DDR2, then, if you use your old Q6600 (FSB266), they will work at nominal 800MHz, but then you install new Q9300, which use FSB333, you should choose new memory clock, however i975X chipset haven't an option to work together with FSB333 CPU and 800MHz memory, you can choose only 667MHz memory on overclock it to 834MHz.

Try first 667MHz, if it works then try 834MHz, it's a very small overclocking, but maybe your modules can't handle it and require setting less agressive timings (expesially if your modules are on agressive CAS CL4 mode or something that) or higher voltage.

[DBest1]

Whats the highest that any one has got this cpu to? (Q6600) , , Also , has any one got the GTX 280 yet? im still in 2minds about getting this card,,i have a 22" monitor, will it be worth it?

[Yolanda]

Quad cores overclockes not so nice as dual cores, you can get something in range of 3-3,4GHz. Test in Prime95 10 hours or more to get fully stable mode.

I have 20" monitor with 8800GTX factory overclocked and perfomance not so nice, so GTX280 will be better, new games wanted even more powerfull cards :)
After upgrade from 7950 to GTX280 you will get very nice perfomance improvement, about 3-4 times faster.

[DBest1]

Quad cores overclockes not so nice as dual cores, you can get something in range of 3-3,4GHz. Test in Prime95 10 hours or more to get fully stable mode.

I have 20" monitor with 8800GTX factory overclocked and perfomance not so nice, so GTX280 will be better, new games wanted even more powerfull cards :)
After upgrade from 7950 to GTX280 you will get very nice perfomance improvement, about 3-4 times faster.

Cheers , il be purchasing one after pay day :D . . what memory would u recomend? im looking at G.skill 8GB , im going to be running Vista 64 so want the most amount of memory, itl mainly be a gaming rig obv but also doing some 3D rendering and alota photoshop..

[Yolanda]

Do you really need 8GB? I have 2GB, page file is off, but Windows XP, all games and my programs fit in 2GB.
I think try first with your 2GB, if you have swapping, add more 2GB or buy new 4GB.
You can buy cheap modules from Samsing or Hynix (about 20$ per 1GB), i975X is the most fastest chipset and perfomance will be nice.

[DBest1]

Do you really need 8GB? I have 2GB, page file is off, but Windows XP, all games and my programs fit in 2GB.
I think try first with your 2GB, if you have swapping, add more 2GB or buy new 4GB.
You can buy cheap modules from Samsing or Hynix (about 20$ per 1GB), i975X is the most fastest chipset and perfomance will be nice.

hmm,,il more than likely get 4GB coz i can get it in a pair, im lookin at these at the mo -

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231145

[JustusIV]

I just tried hooking up another hard drive today, and it appears that my EZ_RAID2 sata port is not working. i tried hooking up different drives to it and couldnt get any to work, i have never used it before. Any ideas? am i doing something stupid?

[DBest1]

hmm,,i had the same issue, not 100% what i did, jst played around with the ports,,aparently u need to install raid drivers if u want to set up all sata drives for HDDS , i got all 3 being used and used the 4th Sata next to the rear of the board under the CPU to control my DVD drive..all works well now...

[w2richwood]

I just tried hooking up another hard drive today, and it appears that my EZ_RAID2 sata port is not working. i tried hooking up different drives to it and couldnt get any to work, i have never used it before. Any ideas? am i doing something stupid?

you need to remove the jumpers on the board and you get one sata port off the ezraid check your manual
Rich

[DBest1]

will that let you have all 4 sata ports as single hard drives and not in RAID?

[JustusIV]

you need to remove the jumpers on the board and you get one sata port off the ezraid check your manual
Rich

I have been trying to download the manual from asus all morning :(

[JustusIV]

So i am more confused now then when i first set this machine up LOL.
I am running a raid 0 in my SATA1 and SATA3 slots using the intel chip, If i was going to run a raid 0 and raid 5 on this board i would need to run the raid 0 through the Jmicron in slots EZ_RAID2 and EZ_RAID1 and the raid 5 through the intel slots SATA1 SATA3 and SATA4 correct?

[shinnoobi]

Hi i have a P5W-DH and im trying to run my e8400 on it.. the bios is 2704 and i had an e6600 in it and it worked fine.

Now when i put in the e8400 it just gets to the loading xp screen.. then it restarts. =[ Anyone have any ideas?

[Leeghoofd]

Hi i have a P5W-DH and im trying to run my e8400 on it.. the bios is 2704 and i had an e6600 in it and it worked fine.

Now when i put in the e8400 it just gets to the loading xp screen.. then it restarts. =[ Anyone have any ideas?

More Vcore ? MCH voltage ? did you verify all bios settings ? all ram timings , voltage okay ?

[lawrywild]

will that let you have all 4 sata ports as single hard drives and not in RAID?

Yep

[Yolanda]

Hi i have a P5W-DH and im trying to run my e8400 on it.. the bios is 2704 and i had an e6600 in it and it worked fine.

Now when i put in the e8400 it just gets to the loading xp screen.. then it restarts. =[ Anyone have any ideas?

Try to reset BIOS by jumper

[kirknickols]

Hello ~

Speedfan is reporting 73C idle on one of the sensors. Could this possibly be accurate, and if so should I be concerned?

Thanks

P5W DH Deluxe MB
Q6600 @3.33

[lawrywild]

Can you find out which sensor it is? Everest Ultimate Edition will be able to tell you.

[shinnoobi]

More Vcore ? MCH voltage ? did you verify all bios settings ? all ram timings , voltage okay ?


everything in bios was set to default. It would not allow me to adjust the vcore. Only the 'auto' option was avail:(

[Yolanda]

You tried reset by jumper "RTS(CMOS) Reset"? Board have strange work after CPU change.

[shinnoobi]

ok so i finally got it to boot the e8400.. oc'd it.. wont budge past 380. =[

Q810

[kirknickols]

lawrywild Thanks for the tip on Everest ultimate

Although the trial version doesn't give you all the necessary readings,
I was able to figure out that the GPU was the one hitting the high 70's and thankfully not the motherboard!

Speedfan shows all the readings but doesn't associate them with the proper sensors.

Finally I can relax with accurate idea of what is really going on.

MB 43C
CPU 28C
cores 1-4 42C-47C
GPU 78C (passive cooling)

That's with the case open, now to test with fans low and under working conditions.

much appreciated

[Yolanda]

ok so i finally got it to boot the e8400.. oc'd it.. wont budge past 380. =[

Q810

Try to lower memory speed, set it to SPD, disable HyperPath, disable all thermal saving functions, 400FSB or something more you should get. To make it stable add some voltage on CPU, after, if needed, MCH may be working at nominal voltage or 1.65V.

[shinnoobi]

Try to lower memory speed, set it to SPD, disable HyperPath, disable all thermal saving functions, 400FSB or something more you should get. To make it stable add some voltage on CPU, after, if needed, MCH may be working at nominal voltage or 1.65V.

Just tried.. still doesnt work =[

Maybe my ram is holding me down? its set at 5-4-4-12 right now.. G.Skill something dont remember exactly..


385 is the point where it breaks.. im currently sitting at 385x9 4.45ghz 22c idle

[Vellpike]

I recently updated my bios (2704) and was excited to see support for the Q9450. My excitment turned to disappointment when I purchased the chip and put it in the computer. It was horribly unstable and would under clock the CPU on some bootups. RMA'ed the Q9450. Has anyone had success with the P5W DH Deluxe and Q9450?

[Vellpike]

Hey guys, typically a lurker, popped in to about my latest OC attempts on this board... I mean, they seem terrible.

I currently have a Q9450 @ 375x8 (3.00) with 2 way underclocked GSkill DIMMS. I am currently at 1.5 Vcore, 1.60 MCH... and I'm barely boot stable. Core temp is reporting ~58 C Idle to boot.

Unless I have bizarre expectations, this seems obviously horrible. Any idea? Do I just have the world's lamest Q9450?

UPDATE: So, 3.00 crashed, and I'm back to all stock. My cores are 45-52 C idle, and I am NOT Prime stable... Something is amiss.

No, I had the same problems. I was getting the same Core TEmp readings too. At stock setting, the Chips was unstable. I was able to boot up into windows, but it was crashing whenever i opened anything. I am not sure why ASUS would put out a bios claiming the revision can handle this chip when it can not. I am going to have to RMA my Q9450 or get a new board. Might be time.

[genish]

i had a little problème with the first boot ( trying three times) and now is ok
but which step have you bios 2704 is just for step c1 , p5wdh is no good for step c0
i have put for trying my ram corsair c4 800 5 5 5 18 & 667mhz and now is 4 4 4 12 837 mhz 2.2v

[lawrywild]

1,000,000 Views :)

[Vellpike]

i had a little problème with the first boot ( trying three times) and now is ok
but which step have you bios 2704 is just for step c1 , p5wdh is no good for step c0
i have put for trying my ram corsair c4 800 5 5 5 18 & 667mhz and now is 4 4 4 12 837 mhz 2.2v
I had the c1 stepping. I just dont think Asus can push anymore advances on this board. I had my memory at 5-5-5-18 too.

[anzial]

1,000,000 Views :)

That's a testament to the quality and popularity of this motherboard, what, like 3 years after it hit the market? :up:

Velpike, 975 chipset doesn't play nice with any quadcores, it's time to get a new mobo, buddy ;)

[DBest1]

Im getting these this week,,can some one please tell me the best settings these will run as im new to overclocking (kinda - never done memory OC before) -

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-022-GS&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=&name=G.Skill%204GB%20DDR2%20PQ%20PC2-8000C5%20(2x2GB)%20CAS5%20Dual%20Channel%20Kit%20( F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ)

And can i push this CPU any higher?!? =)

[XiphoidProcess]

Sorry if this has already been answered in an earlier post, but I couldn't find it.

I had a Q9300 in my first gen P5W DH deluxe and it occasionally doesn't show any video on bootup and doesn't get fixed until I put in my old Prescott chip (which boots fine) and re-install, or update, the bios.

I am currently using either rev 2004 or 2704 (I forget) and the computer had been working fine the last few weeks. Well... it was fine until I tried to change the FSB from 360? to 400. Now I can't get either my Q9300 or my X6800 to show any video. :(

The biggest issue I have right now is... I just installed 64bit Vista, so I can no longer use the Prescott unless I reinstall a 32bit OS.

While I own a floppy drive, it isn't connected and my only other system I have access to is a laptop without a floppy. Does anyone have any ideas for reinstalling the bios without switching back to a 32bit OS?


Edit: FIXED! Just took out the battery and switched the jumper to reset the CMOS settings. woot

[Yolanda]

You can update BIOS from floppy, USB flash disk (by manual not more then 8GB capacity and formatted to FAT) or from CD/DVD disk. To do it rename BIOS file to P5WDH.ROM and write on disk. Then start board and press Alf+F2 and system will check all medias for Bios file.

Another way is to make bootable CD/DVD with DOS, BIOS file and ASUS Flash writer.

[Lurker246]

1,000,000 Views :)

:up::up::up: Congrats Lawry :up::up::up:

[JustusIV]

So do most people run there raid 0 setup through the intel chip or the jmicron chip? Someone had told me the intel is a little faster, also the jmicron would only support two drives.

[DBest1]

Hi people. can some one help me with setting up this ram please -

http://www.memoryc.com/computermemory/ddr2ram/4gbgskill1000pc28000pq.html

thanks

[radlord]

I have the same problem as shinnoobi trying to OC my 8400 on this board, it won't go near 400 FSB :(

I've bumped the volts and stuff up, but it's still not booting Windows. I really don't have much clue what I'm doing though - I have 4x1gb of
GEiL 6400 RAM which is apparently rated at 4-4-4-12 at 2.1v. Only when I try to use these settings it doesn't make any difference. I understand these timings might be a little 'tight' or whatever though. Can anyone tell me what settings I should be using to OC to 3.6ghz?

[Yolanda]

4 memory modules in most cases can't work at 800MHz with FSB 400 in this board, try to set memory speed to lower mode and then try higher overclocking

[radlord]

still crashes even if I choose the slower memory speeds :(

I'm not sure how the memory timings relate to this thoguh - should I be using them or the SPD option?

I'm not that up for increasing voltages etc but would I basically have to if I wanted to go to a FSB of 400? I've tried upping some voltages on the board (I have version 1.02g) for the CPU, FSB and MCH (I just used the lowest manually selectable voltage I could) but it still crashes either on boot or just after logging into Windows.

Can anyone with an FSB of 400 please post their BIOS settings, and receive my eternal thanks, echoing throughout the ages?

[Chris-red]

I too am looking for advice on this motherboard, I have a q6600 currently running @3.4 378/9/1.5v But I can't sort my memory out I have 4x1gb Geil RAM It wont run properly at 756mhz only at 567mhz this ramm is rated for 800 I can't see why it wont run a it. I have tried voltages between 1.8 and 2.2 and at some it bsod's before windows others it boots fine but errors in prime 95 after a few minutes.

[lawrywild]

still crashes even if I choose the slower memory speeds :(

I'm not sure how the memory timings relate to this thoguh - should I be using them or the SPD option?

I'm not that up for increasing voltages etc but would I basically have to if I wanted to go to a FSB of 400? I've tried upping some voltages on the board (I have version 1.02g) for the CPU, FSB and MCH (I just used the lowest manually selectable voltage I could) but it still crashes either on boot or just after logging into Windows.

Can anyone with an FSB of 400 please post their BIOS settings, and receive my eternal thanks, echoing throughout the ages?

What vdimm and fsb term are you using?

[lawrywild]

I too am looking for advice on this motherboard, I have a q6600 currently running @3.4 378/9/1.5v But I can't sort my memory out I have 4x1gb Geil RAM It wont run properly at 756mhz only at 567mhz this ramm is rated for 800 I can't see why it wont run a it. I have tried voltages between 1.8 and 2.2 and at some it bsod's before windows others it boots fine but errors in prime 95 after a few minutes.

Nothing to do with what the ram is rated to run at, the northbridge controls the memory and it can't handle the speeds you're trying to run with a quad and 4x1 GiB. You need a make a decision between faster cpu or higher clocked memory, or find some middle ground in between and settle for that.

[radlord]

you think I should up the voltages for the FSB then?

I was running my RAM at 2.1v (the rated voltage) but pushed it up to 2.2v to try to get it stable.

I put my FSB to the lowest non-auto setting, which I think was 1.2v

Not enough then? Getting a 400mhz FSB using an E8400 definitely needs more power then?

I can't shake the feeling I'm doing something ridiculously stupid with the settings somewhere. Should I be using SPD for my RAM or inputting my own timings? Do you think that could be what it is? Everything runs great at 333mhz FSB :(

[shinnoobi]

you think I should up the voltages for the FSB then?

I was running my RAM at 2.1v (the rated voltage) but pushed it up to 2.2v to try to get it stable.

I put my FSB to the lowest non-auto setting, which I think was 1.2v

Not enough then? Getting a 400mhz FSB using an E8400 definitely needs more power then?

I can't shake the feeling I'm doing something ridiculously stupid with the settings somewhere. Should I be using SPD for my RAM or inputting my own timings? Do you think that could be what it is? Everything runs great at 333mhz FSB :(

set ur MCH voltage to 1.65.. =]

[lawrywild]

I put my FSB to the lowest non-auto setting, which I think was 1.2v

Try 1.4v and if that isn't good try 1.3v.

[Yolanda]

you think I should up the voltages for the FSB then?

I was running my RAM at 2.1v (the rated voltage) but pushed it up to 2.2v to try to get it stable.

I put my FSB to the lowest non-auto setting, which I think was 1.2v

Not enough then? Getting a 400mhz FSB using an E8400 definitely needs more power then?

I can't shake the feeling I'm doing something ridiculously stupid with the settings somewhere. Should I be using SPD for my RAM or inputting my own timings? Do you think that could be what it is? Everything runs great at 333mhz FSB :(

Also try timings by SPD. And then try to work with only 2*1GB modules.

[Dabrin]

wauw...... 300 pages of P5W owners..... i feel like i have gone to heaven.

I have DESPERATELY been trying to find a solution for a USB problem i have had for...... the last two years (yes, yes - long time, and yes, i am a bit embarrassed that i still did not solve it).

I am running the 2004 BIOS (did not really have a reason to upgrade, and to be honest, i am a bit of a noob, and unlucky on top of that, so i always tend to mess up things when i try to "improve" them).

I originally thought my trouble had to do with unstable power supply, but i recently upgraded my old 350watt to a 650wat corsair, and yet the problem keeps on haunting me.

I got a e6400 running at stock speed, and i got 4x512 kingstons.

And something is really, really weird with my USB ports.

Sometimes they work, and then they suddenly stops working. And it does not matter if i use the ports on the board, or the ones on the front of my case.

Keyboard and mouse works fine. no trouble at all. webcam works perfect, never a glitch.

But external harddisks (with own power supply), will suddenly disappear in the middle of reading/Writing.

USB memory sticks will sometimes work, and other times i will be told i have to format, or the media is corrupt. If i then switch the stick to another computer, it will work right away - without any trouble.

My Ipod is only very, very rarely able to update more than a few songs, before i am told it is corrupt, and i need to re-install the software on it (and when i try doing this - it fails, and i have to re-format on another computer). However, if i just disconnect the ipod, without trying to re-install the software, it will work fine, and even play the songs that managed to get transfered before my ports goes wonky.

Finally i noticed that the onboard wifi is also acting the same way. And i actually noticed that the wifi ALWAYS works when i switch on my computer. And as long as i can see the wifi is working..... all the other stuff i mentioned will work fine too.

Now - i think i have found out the wifi is actually working on the USB ports, so i guess it is not the WIFI to blame for all my trouble, but more the wifi that suffers under the same illness. So i normally end up using the wifi as an indicator to see if it pays off trying to upload some songs on my ipod or not.

I even tried using an external USB hub that was running with its own power supply (because i thought the connection broke down, because the ports were not able to pull enough juice) - but alas, my computer did not even recognize the hub, and i just ended up getting the "one of your USB devices have malfunctioned"/unkown USB device error.

So........ what the heck can make the USB ports work just fine the first 10 minutes i switch my computer on? and then stop working when it gets hot?

(sorry for the long explanation - but it is a rather strange problem, and a bit difficult to explain or troubleshoot, since it seems like it's coming and going.....)

________
forgot to add - i am running XP 32bit (not Vista).
And the USB ports seems to always work within the first 5 minutes when i switch my computer on. But if they stop working, and i do a restart, they do NOT start working again. Unless i let the computer power totally down, and stand for a few minutes, before i switch it back on.

[radlord]

haha. I know what you mean about the embarrassing thing. Mine won't sleep or hibernate properly without rending the world in twain, and nobody has a clue what's wrong with it. I've decided to just live with it.

Anyway this USB thing - is there enough power? Also have you updated the chipset drivers?

[radlord]

oh I see you've said it's not the power supply.

Sounds like maybe your southbridge needs updated drivers. The newest intel release for the chipset the P5W uses was a couple of weeks ago I think.

ALSO thanks guys about the E8400 overclocking thing - 1.65v on the northbridge did it! Cheers :)

[NghtShd]

@Dabrin

You are right about the WiFi running off a USB port. It sounds like a +5v power problem. Maybe it's not the fault of the PSU but something on the board.

[sonicwind]

Hi can someone please help me with two problems with this motherboard? thanks in advance

(1) Crucial Ballistix 2GB 8500 would run fine at the stock speed if the cpu (E6400) is run at stock speed, however when I push the cpu to 3.2Gb, I would get all sorts of problems in WINXP even at 8500 5-5-5-15 @ 2.2v, doesn't help if the voltage is increased to 2.3v, very strange! Corsair Dominator 2GB 8500 ver 4.1 wouldn't even post!! is this motherboard plagued with memory incompatibility problems?

(2) this is a more recent problem, my pc would freeze at WINXP (SP2) boot screen, I figured out that if I turned off Jmicron in BIOS things would return to normal, is this a software conflict or hardware issue?

I am using BIOS ver 2602. thanks again

[Marvin_The_Martian]

I posted in the thread before and now it hit a million I thought I'd try again. FCG was bussy with a Vgtl+ mod for this board to help the quad cores clock higher, but he never finished his article about it.. I know p35 boards are cheap but I want to keep this one and be able to get some more fsb.

So, anyone heard about a vgtl mod? Anyone at all? Please?

:up:

[Dabrin]

(2) this is a more recent problem, my pc would freeze at WINXP (SP2) boot screen, I figured out that if I turned off Jmicron in BIOS things would return to normal, is this a software conflict or hardware issue?

I am using BIOS ver 2602. thanks again

I actually bumped into the same problem. Sometimes it would help if i would disconnect my external harddisk (which is running over the firewireport). And sometimes it would just get stuck, no matter how many times i tried restarting.

I tried starting the computer in safemode, and it still got stuck at the "jgogo.sys" file.

Personally things got fixed when i reinstalled Jmicro, and i heard others got the computer to start better, when they just deleted said file. So my guess is it is software issue.

[DBest1]

has anyone managed to get the Q6600 any higher than 3.2ghz on this board?!

[sonicwind]

I actually bumped into the same problem. Sometimes it would help if i would disconnect my external harddisk (which is running over the firewireport). And sometimes it would just get stuck, no matter how many times i tried restarting.

I tried starting the computer in safemode, and it still got stuck at the "jgogo.sys" file.

Personally things got fixed when i reinstalled Jmicro, and i heard others got the computer to start better, when they just deleted said file. So my guess is it is software issue.

Actually this won't work. The Jmicron needs to be disabled in order to get into windows, but then because the driver can't detect the hardware it won't start the installation. Any other ideas?

[updawg]

Help! I just purchased a e8200 over at ocforums and in the bios if I try to manually set the voltage the lowest setting is 1.45 volts, also If I do a bad overclock I have to reset the cmos and pull the battery to reenter the bios screen. I never used to have to do this. I'm running 2704 bios.

Thanks,
Mike

[radlord]

anyone else had the dreaded atimkdag driver resetting error on here? It does this as soon as I load up any 3d app at all (including stuff like Google Earth). So it makes playing games impossible. I've tried cleaning the drivers then reinstalling etc, still the same.

Some people are saying it's because the Northbridge on intel boards can't cope with an overclocked cpu and the gfx card. Is this right do you think?

this is sooo annoying :(

[mikepaul]

I caught some sort of malware thing causing popups and a crashed Desktop, so I did a complete reinstall of XP.

Now that instability I'd seen a few times before has come down to Flash 9 not just crashing IE7 or Firefox 3, but rebooting the PC.

Problem is, Flash 8 refuses to install when the OCX refuses to register. Has anyone else had problems with Flash 8/9 and care to share how they got them resolved? I do need some sort of Flash support for various websites that are otherwise blank pages.

Thanks...

Oh, important point after some reading: I installed SP3, which is blamed for IE7 and Firefox 3 crashing while viewing Flash pages, but I don't read about any rebooting like I'm getting...

[Zray]

I've just installed window vista64bit, but now I lost "ASUS WiFi-AP Solo Wizard" app :(, could anybody upload this one for me, I cannot find it. thx

[bin20]

Hello guys , I just wanted some help , I have P5W DH and I'm using long time , just like 3 years without no problem , but now i see some strange problem , when i need turn on the pc i hear the vga fan without screen responce , so i must restart the pc , and i see signal , after that it says overlocker failed , choose f1 or f2 , i must choose f1 , than it works without any problem , so i dont know where is the problem , could u plz guys give me some advice.
I forgot somethink else about a week ago i cleaned the tonic tower and reapplied the artic silver 5 , so mayby the headsing is not good or dont know .


thanks

[mikepaul]

Change the battery, use a can of air to blow everything off, and hope for the best...

[bin20]

u mean the cmos battery ? i cleaned all the dust , and i still get that problem evry ather day . i mean , when i turn on in the morning i see the problem ,

[Falkentyne]

Help! I just purchased a e8200 over at ocforums and in the bios if I try to manually set the voltage the lowest setting is 1.45 volts, also If I do a bad overclock I have to reset the cmos and pull the battery to reenter the bios screen. I never used to have to do this. I'm running 2704 bios.

Thanks,
Mike

You should never have to pull the battery after a failed overclock, even if except under absolute worst conditions, except to replace it. The thing many people seem to not do is to UNPLUG the mains before clearing cmos. Turn off the PSU, if you have a rocker switch (only old or crappy psu's don't have one), then unplug its cord, then hit the power button to try to power the computer on (this can release extra stored current; you do NOT have to do this though), and then clear the cmos. This should get you back up and running.

[jdhaan]

Hmm, when I use my reset button from my pc, it will freeze with a black screen while starting up again.

I got bios 2103. Anyone know if thats a common problem with that bios?

Else I'll go back to a different bios version? Which one would be better, 2004 or 2704?

Also, I presume it is, but never hurts to check.. Downgrading the bios works exactly the same as upgrading, correct?

Thanks,
Jeroen

[lawrywild]

2504 works fine for me.

[JimmyDDD]

I have the Q9300, I was only able to get 2.62 GHZ per core. What is the maximum you guys were able to get and what configuration did you use? Thanks

[mikepaul]

u mean the cmos battery ? i cleaned all the dust , and i still get that problem evry ather day . i mean , when i turn on in the morning i see the problem ,
Yes, the CMOS battery.

I installed the spare one last year just to be sure I had no issues, and beyond cleaning it's all I can think of for maintenance. If it doesn't help, it also shouldn't hurt...

[jdhaan]

2504 works fine for me.

Is there something like a change file for Bios files? Or is it always a try-and-error kind of way, to see which bios suits you best?

[mikepaul]

I caught some sort of malware thing causing popups and a crashed Desktop, so I did a complete reinstall of XP.

Now that instability I'd seen a few times before has come down to Flash 9 not just crashing IE7 or Firefox 3, but rebooting the PC.

Problem is, Flash 8 refuses to install when the OCX refuses to register. Has anyone else had problems with Flash 8/9 and care to share how they got them resolved? I do need some sort of Flash support for various websites that are otherwise blank pages.

Thanks...

Oh, important point after some reading: I installed SP3, which is blamed for IE7 and Firefox 3 crashing while viewing Flash pages, but I don't read about any rebooting like I'm getting...
So it turns out that SP3 is VERY unstable combined with my 7300 GS video card. I uninstalled that video driver and tried to carry on but the lame default VGA driver plus other crash-like issues forced me to restore an old SP2 backup I had and I'm rebuilding from that instead.

Has anyone else found SP3 to be an issue? If it's just because of the Q9450 I'll be VERY annoyed...

[aelo]

Hi,

I've no problemes with the new service pack 3.
My System runs great, I've never had any real problems with the Board (Revision 1.02G, Bios 2704).
The other parts of my system are Core 2 Duo E6600, GeForce 7900Gt (before: 7600GT), 4Gb Ram, 4x 1GB DDR2-800 Corsair TwinX XMS CL5.

regards
aelo

[phillai]

I got a problem encoding - After a while it will just switch off.
Sometimes straight away sometimes after about 60%...

But it always switches off when I'm encoding!!!

Everything else works for me so I'm quote puzzled why my PC switches off when I'm trying to encode.

Can anyone help me out?

Is there a program to 'stress test' my setup so I can possibly see what is wrong?

[radlord]

try Prime95.

Sounds like you're overheating, check your temps.

Also, can I just ask if anyone has any experience of installing Leopard with the P5W? I know it's supposed to be one of the best boards to do it on.

Which is the better 'distro', Kalway or iAtkos, for this board? Any major things I should be aware of? i know i should disable the JMicron controller and that's not a problem. Is it OK with SATA? What about overclocking, is it OK to do that?

[phillai]

try Prime95.

Sounds like you're overheating, check your temps.

Also, can I just ask if anyone has any experience of installing Leopard with the P5W? I know it's supposed to be one of the best boards to do it on.

Which is the better 'distro', Kalway or iAtkos, for this board? Any major things I should be aware of? i know i should disable the JMicron controller and that's not a problem. Is it OK with SATA? What about overclocking, is it OK to do that?

Thanks for the quick reply!

Will the Prime95 software support my Q6600 CPU?

I suspect it's overheating as well...

But it does this from a cold boot as well after my PC's been switched off for 8 hours.

[mikepaul]

I've no problemes with the new service pack 3.
My System runs great, I've never had any real problems with the Board (Revision 1.02G, Bios 2704).
The other parts of my system are Core 2 Duo E6600, GeForce 7900Gt (before: 7600GT), 4Gb Ram, 4x 1GB DDR2-800 Corsair TwinX XMS CL5.
Well, I never ran SP3 with my E6300 so maybe it's some new instruction on the Q9450 that isn't executing properly. Whatever it is, the July 2008 Nvidia drivers didn't work any better: play some Flash animation on a website and watch it reboot.

I did find out the cause of my 'virus/malware' problem: the controller software for the Freezone Elite I installed IS the reason the desktop crashes after 6 hours. The popup windows that may all say they are trying to launch restart.exe must be due to the fact that the software screws up the ability to read the temperatures (Core Temp returns 105C when run at the same time, normal temps when run alone) and eventually tries to shut the machine down. It chugs along OK without the controller software so I uninstalled it. The refrigerator-like noise is comforting rather than annoying.

On the bright side, when I set the Elite to 24C, the Q9450 running at 2.32Ghz (underclocked because 2704 sucks) is about 48C on the hottest core at idle. That's nearly 10C cooler than air had me. If/when I get to overclock, it should be just fine...

[NghtShd]

try Prime95.
Also, can I just ask if anyone has any experience of installing Leopard with the P5W? I know it's supposed to be one of the best boards to do it on.

Which is the better 'distro', Kalway or iAtkos, for this board? Any major things I should be aware of? i know i should disable the JMicron controller and that's not a problem. Is it OK with SATA? What about overclocking, is it OK to do that?

I installed kalyway_leo_10.5.1 on mine a few months ago. I can't give you much advice, however, since I never used it much and really don't recall the specifics. I do know SATA worked and it was relatively trouble free.

[radlord]

cool thanks. My P5W is my first non-mac computer and I miss my old iMac. Seems like I (accidentally) picked a good board to put OSX on to.

I'm sure I'll be on again later wanting help though, obviously.

[Chrysalis]

Well guys after a year or two of using this board and also considering the ICH7 is not new anymore I am very dissapointed with how buggy the matrix storage drivers are. Over the course of time me using the board the ICH7 ACHI/RAID drivers have caused me some problems.

It seems I either have to have slow drive performance on the ICH7 or instability if I want full sata features.

I have now decided to move my OS drive to the jmicron sata port and will run that in ACHI mode. So the raptor has command queueing.

All other drives on the intel controller in ide mode, which is at least stable with full write caching features.

I have concluded the intel controller is ok for raid (on xp, vista has a lot of problems according to google) but for non raid the driver development has failed and the hardware review sites made the mistake of only testing raid configuration on the controller.

Summary of problems I have had.

Initial driver version in AHCI mode I think 6.x version, very slow drive performance, write caching completly disabled on both intel and jmicron controllers, the intel driver overules the jmicron driver.
7.8 version RAID driver, the driver stopped overuling jmicron and now the jmicron drives have write caching and perform excellent, the intel drives appear to have limited write caching or at least write faster than the older driver version however can still not toggle write cache in device manager.
8.0 version, I think these are beta drivers as not available on intels website, these drivers at first seemed to be great they allow full write caching and can toggle in device manager, but I keep getting weird issues like pauses and iastor timeouts. The same iastor timeouts vista users get but I run XP. This is the only version of intel matrix drivers that actually run my drives at full speed, no stuttering in video clips etc. and fast writing due to cache. These drivers are beta to be fair tho so hopefully the release versions will keep the write caching and be stable, but until then I be changing my drive configuration.

Some of you if you say well you should be using ide for single drives please bear in mind I want command queueing for my OS drive and that sata supposedbly utilises better power saving.

[JimmyDDD]

How did you guys configure the board for the Q9450. I am trying to configure the bus for this processor but don't know how to over clock it for this processor. Would appreciate any help you can provide. Thanks

[JimmyDDD]

I also get about 119 F when running my cpu and board is that temp. ok or too hot?

[mikepaul]

How did you guys configure the board for the Q9450. I am trying to configure the bus for this processor but don't know how to over clock it for this processor. Would appreciate any help you can provide. Thanks
I can't overclock it. I can't even leave it at 2.66Ghz. It crashes at random when I do.

If they EVER release a newer BIOS than 2704, I sure hope it allows like 1.3V since I'm told that the current lowest manual setting is too high and AUTO apparently isn't high enough...

Oh, and 48C is nice. Most folks stick to Celcius around here...

[JimmyDDD]

Thanks, did they ever mention of offering an update to the bios?

[Yolanda]

I can't overclock it. I can't even leave it at 2.66Ghz. It crashes at random when I do.

If they EVER release a newer BIOS than 2704, I sure hope it allows like 1.3V since I'm told that the current lowest manual setting is too high and AUTO apparently isn't high enough...

Oh, and 48C is nice. Most folks stick to Celcius around here...

It's because you have an old revision of our board, my rev. 1.04G can set any voltage from 1.25V on 45 nm CPU. However your lowers setting 1.45V not so high, really it's about ~1.41 via Vdrop.

[Yolanda]

Thanks, did they ever mention of offering an update to the bios?

A lot of new CPUs upcoming, so I think they make new Bios

[Chrysalis]

ok did some more research on the problems I posted with the intel iastor driver, I think its actually my new samsung F1 drive, it seems they dont go well with NCQ mode. Since NCQ only really benefits the OS drive and I run in single drive configs, I am still going ahead with my plan on putting the raptor on the jmicron in ahci mode and the rest of the drives on the ich7r in ide mode.

[mikepaul]

It's because you have an old revision of our board, my rev. 1.04G can set any voltage from 1.25V on 45 nm CPU. However your lowers setting 1.45V not so high, really it's about ~1.41 via Vdrop.
That's SO nice to hear: limit the old board to HIGHER vCore rather than lower. That's the reverse of how stuff like vMCH works out...

[MacClipper]

It's because you have an old revision of our board, my rev. 1.04G can set any voltage from 1.25V on 45 nm CPU. However your lowers setting 1.45V not so high, really it's about ~1.41 via Vdrop.
Do you have any info precisely which is the earliest revision that allows proper low Vcore control for 45nm CPUs? Seen it mentioned a few times in passing but no one has come up with definite answers even in this most comprehensive thread.

Think mine is a 1.03G but still using 2406 BIOS, wondering if it is worth trying a 45nm (and flashing the lattest BIOS).

[thehinge1]

I guess I got lucky - no issues with my 750GB F1 Samsung, this thing is wicked fast (and runs quite cool) compared to the old Maxline III's I originally set the board up with.

Weirdness: my E6400 runs all day long at 3.25GHz@1.3375 in Bios on a 1.325VID chip... but I can crank the memory at higher speeds (DDR1000+) when I was testing an E2180 at/near/over 3.0GHz.

ok did some more research on the problems I posted with the intel iastor driver, I think its actually my new samsung F1 drive, it seems they dont go well with NCQ mode. Since NCQ only really benefits the OS drive and I run in single drive configs, I am still going ahead with my plan on putting the raptor on the jmicron in ahci mode and the rest of the drives on the ich7r in ide mode.

[Tamerlane]

Think mine is a 1.03G but still using 2406 BIOS, wondering if it is worth trying a 45nm (and flashing the lattest BIOS).

I think I've seen reports of 1.03G with proper voltages, not sure on which BIOS (pretty sure 2704). But never with 1.02G or lower, I don't believe.

I hope it's true about a new BIOS. If you want to increase the chances, I strongly encourage everyone to report the minimum manual Vcore setting problem to ASUS tech support, otherwise we might get more 'support' for new CPUs but not a fix for the Vcore problem. :dammit:

Yolanda and others: is it pretty much confirmed that motherboard revision is the only/best explanation for why some don't get below 1.45V manual Vcore, while others do? Is it also confirmed that those with 1.02G boards and earlier cannot get below 1.45V even with BIOSes earlier than 2704?

[Falkentyne]

Good point above.

I think I should also add by asking the question:
Can anyone with a 1.02 board and a QX9650 set voltages below 1.45v also? (important to ask this!!!!)

And IN ADDITON
Does ANYONE with a 1.04 board and any 45nm chip ALSO have the 1.45 min vcore problem? (to further iron out the issue).

[mikepaul]

I hope it's true about a new BIOS. If you want to increase the chances, I strongly encourage everyone to report the minimum manual Vcore setting problem to ASUS tech support, otherwise we might get more 'support' for new CPUs but not a fix for the Vcore problem. :dammit
One thing coming from this is, from now on if I get a new motherboard with some later minor revision that doesn't seem too important at the time, I *WILL* RMA it immediately for the newer version. At no point did it seem like I was losing out on functionality, only overclocking my E6300 by just 1Ghz. Now that I can't even keep my Q9450 going at stock without crashes, which is rumored (for now) to come back to this revision stuff, I am just totally annoyed at ASUS and myself for short-sightedness...

Oh, BTW, my phone call to ASUS Support a while back gave me no hope for a new BIOS. That guy had no clue if/when another was coming...

[h4nc0]

I am running 2704 and cannot seem to change multipler to anything other than 9. (running Q6600) Is this a known issue?

thx

[radlord]

does anyone running OSX on the board know how to make it work with AHCI?

Whenever I switch from Vista to OSX without changing the IDE mode back to 'compatible' it doesn't start up :(

[JustusIV]

Hello, I am going to install vista here shortly. I use a raid 0 onboard setup and for windows XP i just preload the drivers on the cd so i dont have to have a floppy drive hooked up to my computer. I here vista doesnt need a floppy to load the raid drivers. Also on the asus site there is no intel raid drivers for vista. Are they already loaded into vista?

[Yolanda]

does anyone running OSX on the board know how to make it work with AHCI?

Whenever I switch from Vista to OSX without changing the IDE mode back to 'compatible' it doesn't start up :(

I try several versions, most can't work in AHCI mode, but Leo4Allv2-Universal (OSX 10.5.2) works normally with AHCI :)

However in this build: Yukon built-in network cards can't work on our P5W board, drivers load and report about errors, but our built-in WiFi Realtek works fine, I use it through WiFi router. If choose Vanilla Kernel 9.2.0 or 9.2.2 PS/2 keyboard can't work on P5W, if use PS/2 select other mode (I don't remember the name of it, but there is 3 options and both Vanilla are not your). Can't work with monitors connected via standard VGA cable without ESDI or with disabled ESDI from monitor menu, can work with them with BNC cable.

[radlord]

am i right in thinking that these different versions just install different patches on to the OS while installing? I used iAtkos v4i.

So could I not download the AHCI patch form somewhere? It works great apart from that, apart from the sleep mode is completely broken. Shuts down fine though, which is something my genuine iMac doesn't do!

[Yolanda]

I don't know, but if any such patch exist, it will be rather difficult to install it, because it requires some skill in deep OSX maintance via console commands. You can ask on special OSX forums.

[radlord]

thanks.