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Khaotic
08-23-2006, 03:07 AM
Interesting.. we need more ram timings in bios :slapass: yes my SB gets very hot too after lots of full load.
Btw it's vICH (I/o Controller Hub)
So what does MCH stand for?
I'll take a wild stab at Memory Controller - Hock-a-loogie-on-it-to-coolit
lawrywild
08-23-2006, 03:55 AM
So what does MCH stand for?
I'll take a wild stab at Memory Controller - Hock-a-loogie-on-it-to-coolit
Yes, Memory Controller Hub
Durzel
08-23-2006, 04:04 AM
Can anyone tell me what sort of MB temps they're getting?
I'm seeing 46-47°C recorded at full load at 4.1Ghz (1.5v BIOS, 1.46v actual under load) - that seems very high and PC Probe is warning about it. The southbridge heatsink is very hot to the touch, whereas the NB heatsink is pretty much cold... not sure whether I've just got a bad contact on the NB or not.
I've taken the cover off the southbridge but haven't yet mounted a fan to it. Can I get a 10mm fan on and still be able to use Crossfire? Will a 10mm fan even make much difference?
Primoz78
08-23-2006, 04:08 AM
Can anyone tell me what sort of MB temps they're getting?
I'm seeing 46-47°C recorded at full load at 4.1Ghz (1.5v BIOS, 1.46v actual under load) - that seems very high and PC Probe is warning about it. The southbridge heatsink is very hot to the touch, whereas the NB heatsink is pretty much cold... not sure whether I've just got a bad contact on the NB or not.
I've taken the cover off the southbridge but haven't yet mounted a fan to it. Can I get a 10mm fan on and still be able to use Crossfire? Will a 10mm fan even make much difference?
It is getting the SB temperatures...
What about speedfan?...could the Remote temp or local temp be the NB temp or there are no sensor at all on the NB?
Regards,
Primoz
lawrywild
08-23-2006, 04:08 AM
Anybody heard about it ?
I saw posts from people with their new board and having this one
:confused:
If so thanks to give a link
err.. umm I don't quite get how you managed to find out about it...
But it's no better than 1101, trust me.
ChkDsk
08-23-2006, 04:12 AM
Did not had any issues hitting 400FSB...
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6672/primegot4lz3.th.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=primegot4lz3.jpg)
lawrywild
08-23-2006, 04:21 AM
Did not had any issues hitting 400FSB...
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6672/primegot4lz3.th.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=primegot4lz3.jpg)
please post your bios settings in detail :)
ChkDsk
08-23-2006, 04:30 AM
please post your bios settings in detail :)
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4441/advcpuxr7.th.jpg (http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=advcpuxr7.jpg)
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/4835/advchszs9.th.jpg (http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=advchszs9.jpg)
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/518/cpufreqvcu4.th.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cpufreqvcu4.jpg)
:toast:
topboy
08-23-2006, 04:36 AM
Why oh Why are people Enabling Virtualization Technology When it only gives gains if you are running VM sessions, Like running a VMWARE server or Micorosoft Virtual Machine software. I dont get it. I see so many people on here with it enabled, but it doesnt help anyone.
ChkDsk
08-23-2006, 04:38 AM
Why oh Why are people Enabling Virtualization Technology When it only gives gains if you are running VM sessions, Like running a VMWARE server or Micorosoft Virtual Machine software. I dont get it. I see so many people on here with it enabled, but it doesnt help anyone.
Default is ENABLED... So why disable? :p:
topboy
08-23-2006, 04:45 AM
General rule when Overclocking is if it isnt needed dont enable it.
Then again if it aint broken dont touch it.....lol
lawrywild
08-23-2006, 04:52 AM
It didn't make any difference to my ocs so I leave VT enabled
GLENBOY
08-23-2006, 04:53 AM
why is th 1101 bios not on asus website anymore have they pulled it for some reason
lawrywild
08-23-2006, 05:10 AM
why is th 1101 bios not on asus website anymore have they pulled it for some reason
welcome to last week.
Use the search :slap:
ChkDsk
08-23-2006, 05:15 AM
why is th 1101 bios not on asus website anymore have they pulled it for some reason
ftp://dlsvr02.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/P5WDH1101.zip
Ibinco
08-23-2006, 07:39 AM
Guys, Im wondering if the mobo temp is not the limiting factor for me. Could you guys post ur temps in idle and load? Mine are 38C idle 46-49 load.
Brahmzy
08-23-2006, 07:40 AM
Using this P5W DH, I seem to be in the same boat as Lawrywild. 356 being the tops that I can hit. A friend of mine has hers wound out the same way. 356 <> anything after that is crash-crash-crash.
http://www.cluboc.net/images/khaotic/cpuz.jpg
http://www.cluboverclocker.com/images/khaotic/SP2004@9hrs.jpg
Of course CPUZ has the voltage all wrong. To hold that steady I have to use 1.485 or I won't be able to get Prime to hold. Other than that - she's good to go.
This is my EXACT experience as well. Week 23 on air. 24/7 Orthos stable @ 1.45V, anything over that requires WAY too much voltage and produces WAY too much heat.
I think ChkDsk is using water, so that may be helping him as well as probably a better chip.
ChkDsk
08-23-2006, 08:19 AM
This is my EXACT experience as well. Week 23 on air. 24/7 Orthos stable @ 1.45V, anything over that requires WAY too much voltage and produces WAY too much heat.
I think ChkDsk is using water, so that may be helping him as well as probably a better chip.
Picture from case case + radiator:
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8891/pcrechtsopenne7.th.jpg (http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pcrechtsopenne7.jpg)
Picture from the inside:
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/1725/pcbinnenkantdj6.th.jpg (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pcbinnenkantdj6.jpg)
http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/7940/pcuu5.th.jpg (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pcuu5.jpg)
:D
Then again, on AIR (Zalman CNPS7000Cu if I'm correct) I could run 378*9 without much problems... Hyperpath 3 disabled?
Well 2.4ghz to 3.2ghz on AIR isn't THAT bad for an OC :p
ofcourse ES samples got us to much hyped :(
Brahmzy
08-23-2006, 09:55 AM
Yeah, I just need to be happy with an 800MHz OC.
This thing is so much faster than my A64 box was in every way...so...
Somethin' about seeing 3.6GHz on the BIOS screen though just sparks up an inner greed in me like nothin' else, hehe. :)
Almost greedy enough to go get an E6700...and that's just silly. How much would I notice 400MHz in what I do? I probably wouldn't.
Although I defintely do notice when I go back to 2.4GHz from 3.2GHz.
Brahmzy
08-23-2006, 09:57 AM
Hyperpath 3 disabled?
Yup...tried everything. I do think my RAM sucks though. That's what I get for cheapin' out for $149 shipped - still haven't seen my OCZ $50 rebate. Prolly won't ever see it.
famich
08-23-2006, 10:09 AM
Yeah, I just need to be happy with an 800MHz OC.
This thing is so much faster than my A64 box was in every way...so...
Somethin' about seeing 3.6GHz on the BIOS screen though just sparks up an inner greed in me like nothin' else, hehe. :)
Almost greedy enough to go get an E6700...and that's just silly. How much would I notice 400MHz in what I do? I probably wouldn't.
Although I defintely do notice when I go back to 2.4GHz from 3.2GHz.
Yesterday I did some benching :3DM01/ old but much more CPU dependend than the newer ones e.g. 05 , 06/ the diff was : 3424 -50200 points
3600-52000 points - go figure :p:
In a real life not that much :D
lawrywild
08-23-2006, 02:16 PM
Weird.. I just came home from dinner. Pc wouldnt turn on. Took out power supply cable, plugged it back in. Pc booted fine. All bios settings back to stock. Set 3.2 overclock and noticed that the DRAM ECC mode option has completely disappeared from the bios.. :eek:
JollyTime
08-23-2006, 02:27 PM
I'm beginning to suspect that my RAM is bad. I bought the Corsair CM2X1024-6400C3 RAM, which is more than twice the price of the C5.
The thing is that I can't get it above 899MHz no matter how high I set the Memory Voltage. I've tried just about everything, but the bastard won't run the #5 Test on Memtest, it freezes directly.
Am I overlooking something major? I tried running it with my E6600 OC'd to 3,2 GHz and also with the default settings at 2,4 GHz (but with the voltage turned up on the RAM).
Anyone got a clue as to what in the world is going on?
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/memory/ddr2/2006/oczcorsair/corsairperformance.html
EDIT: added the link to Anandtech's test of the RAM, where they got it to 1067 with good timings.
Mykou
08-23-2006, 03:19 PM
err.. umm I don't quite get how you managed to find out about it...
But it's no better than 1101, trust me.
I'd like too :)
Heard some people from overclocking masters had less Vdroop with it ( 0.02 )
no links there
Gotta try 1301 maybe and see
Actually Vdroop is 0.05 ( bios 1101 )
masni
08-23-2006, 04:19 PM
here is mine...
p5w dh
e6300
crucial balistix ddr800 1:1
freezer 7 pro
bios 1011
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6248/430fsb145vsp8mbzp0.th.gif (http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=430fsb145vsp8mbzp0.gif)
400 fsb was easy, no need to increase any voltage...
430 fsb was a little harder, all voltages full...
vdimm 2.4
vcore 1.45
vmch 1.65
fsb temr voltage 1.3
i can boot @440 fsb, but far from stabile...
i'll try vmch pencil mod and go for 500 fsb +...
ChaosAngel
08-24-2006, 12:41 AM
Hi all,
Was hoping someone could let me know what the highest safe voltages for 24x7 use are for a system running on Air with default chipset Heat Sinks: -
Is it ok to set the vMCH to 1.65v for 24x7 use or is this overkill as with my E6700ES I cant seem to get above 300FSB without issues.
vCore = ?
fsb = ?
vdimm = ?
vMCH = ?
ICH = ?
Cheers.
i||uSi0n^
08-24-2006, 01:51 AM
hi,
i wanted to ask that if others here with this board get some random lockups ? since yesterday i got them twice...but on the last one but pc didnt wanted to boot...no display only fans turned on...i took out the powercable and let it sit for 5 mins,once i put back the powercable the board turn on itself for 3secs...then went off, but it booted fine when i pushed the power button in front of casing...anyhow idea what causes that ?
i||uSi0n^
EDIT: im using bios 1101, board came with 0701...and all settings are on auto/stock.
Mykou
08-24-2006, 02:07 AM
Any ES owner tried bios 1001 ? wondering if multi unlocked with it
Ibinco
08-24-2006, 02:45 AM
Well well.....I took apart the NB/SB heatsinks applied AS5 and my mobo temperature has dropped a staggering 5C under load and 3C @ idle.I never go above 40C under load now :) I reccommend it!
zaabird
08-24-2006, 10:28 AM
Poblems with E6600 + P5W DH + 2G OCZ 6400 + 2 Optical Drives + SATA 320G + ATI X600
1, One of my DVD drive (Pioneer 106) is connected to the Jmicron PATA. It cannot be detected in BIOS, but shows up in the Boot device order list. Every time I turned on my marchine, there was a message about the DVD drive showing something about Jmicron.com and in winxp, it works just fine. What should I do to let the BIOS see the drive and get rid of the message?
2, My CPU idle temp is 43~45, MB idle temp is 44~45. Are these temps too high? Currently, I 'm running everything at the stock speed and using the stock HSF. What should I do to lower the temps? My computer case is TT's armor VA8000BNS.
3, The OCZ 6400 firstly detected as 5300 and I have to manually set it as 6400 in the BIOS. Is it normal?
Thank you for your help!
SteveS
08-24-2006, 11:44 AM
I have a real problem and I am at a loss to work out what I can do.
I currently have 4 x 512Mb Corsair XMS2 cas5 RAM but there seems to be a problem when using all four. If I have all four sims in the computer wont post. nothing at all, just sits there. If I take out the Dimms from slots 1 and 2the computer boots fine.
I then shut down the PC, take out the 2 "Working" sticks of RAM and put in the other 2 and the computer boots fine. If I put one of the 512's in to either slot 1 or 2 the computer wont boot.
I initially thought it was a motherboard problem so I contacted ASUS and they suggested I return the motherboard which I did. Now I have just rebuilt my computer after I got a replacement today and the problem is still as I have described above so obviously the Mboard was not faulty.
Has anyone else had the same or similar problems? I really have no idea now what to do. All 4 sticks of ram came out of my old Motherboard and they worked fine.
syne_24
08-24-2006, 12:25 PM
Okay not really a problem but a bit curious. Has anyone try ripping a movie off dvdshrink? Okay well I did and here's the weird part. I tried it at stock speed 2.4 and it came out like 15 min 15sec. Then I overclock it to 3.6 and it came out 15min 12sec. I thought dvdshrink is dependent on cpu, so shouldnt it make a difference?
Can someone else confirm this, it's kinda bugging me. I'm not sure if there is some kind of IDE limit on this board. Thanks
Ibinco
08-24-2006, 12:38 PM
To answer your question 2 read my post above.
Poblems with E6600 + P5W DH + 2G OCZ 6400 + 2 Optical Drives + SATA 320G + ATI X600
1, One of my DVD drive (Pioneer 106) is connected to the Jmicron PATA. It cannot be detected in BIOS, but shows up in the Boot device order list. Every time I turned on my marchine, there was a message about the DVD drive showing something about Jmicron.com and in winxp, it works just fine. What should I do to let the BIOS see the drive and get rid of the message?
2, My CPU idle temp is 43~45, MB idle temp is 44~45. Are these temps too high? Currently, I 'm running everything at the stock speed and using the stock HSF. What should I do to lower the temps? My computer case is TT's armor VA8000BNS.
3, The OCZ 6400 firstly detected as 5300 and I have to manually set it as 6400 in the BIOS. Is it normal?
Thank you for your help!
leejsmith
08-24-2006, 12:55 PM
Okay not really a problem but a bit curious. Has anyone try ripping a movie off dvdshrink? Okay well I did and here's the weird part. I tried it at stock speed 2.4 and it came out like 15 min 15sec. Then I overclock it to 3.6 and it came out 15min 12sec. I thought dvdshrink is dependent on cpu, so shouldnt it make a difference?
Can someone else confirm this, it's kinda bugging me. I'm not sure if there is some kind of IDE limit on this board. Thanks
are you using any of the high quality options if you reduce the size of the dvd ?
if not it is only as fast as the dvd drive can read the disk
check the cpu activity while ripping.
Artmic
08-24-2006, 03:24 PM
Does anyone elses DVD rom drive take a long time to displays files on the cd through Windows Explorer on this P5W board?
Mine takes like a minute almost, that is so anyoing, anyone know what the problem might be?
I tried a different cd-rom drive same thing,
i repalced IDE cables, same thing,
i installed all drivers found on the asus cd. still the same thing, weird.
fornowagain
08-24-2006, 03:35 PM
Does anyone elses DVD rom drive take a long time to displays files on the cd through Windows Explorer on this P5W board?
Mine takes like a minute almost, that is so anyoing, anyone know what the problem might be?
I tried a different cd-rom drive same thing,
i repalced IDE cables, same thing,
i installed all drivers found on the asus cd. still the same thing, weird.
Sounds like its running in PIO mode when it should be in DMA?
Artmic
08-24-2006, 04:05 PM
Sounds like its running in PIO mode when it should be in DMA?
You think? i installed the updated drivers, and it does install things alright so far, except in explorer when you first click the damn cd-rom drive it takes a long time to list the damn files.
I will see what it is set to, maybe it is PIO
Wow this is so lame. I put on a waterblock instead of my Zalman 9500 and now my motherboard is crying:
Floppy Controller Failure
No keyboard detected
CMOS Checksum bad (happened after I took the battery out and turned off the PSU)
If I plug in a USB keyboard, it'll detect but not function properly. If I plug in a PS/2 keyboard it says not detected. If I plug in both, it'll detect the USB and still not function properly.
The floppy is unplugged right now. If I plug it in, it'll sit trying to detect storage devices... it'll finish the SATA, IDE and USB, but then just sit there trying to (I assume) talk to the floppy drive.
Does Asus consider pull off that "Digital Home" and "Asus" heatsink heat-trap pieces of junk grounds for voiding warranty? What a crappy problem since I just finished a quick leaktest on my water loop and wanted to see if this would make my rig any more stable... maybe the particular board I have was just doomed to fail since it was manufactured. Thanks Asus! </sarcasm>
syne_24
08-24-2006, 04:39 PM
Wow this is so lame. I put on a waterblock instead of my Zalman 9500 and now my motherboard is crying:
Floppy Controller Failure
No keyboard detected
CMOS Checksum bad (happened after I took the battery out and turned off the PSU)
If I plug in a USB keyboard, it'll detect but not function properly. If I plug in a PS/2 keyboard it says not detected. If I plug in both, it'll detect the USB and still not function properly.
The floppy is unplugged right now. If I plug it in, it'll sit trying to detect storage devices... it'll finish the SATA, IDE and USB, but then just sit there trying to (I assume) talk to the floppy drive.
Does Asus consider pull off that "Digital Home" and "Asus" heatsink heat-trap pieces of junk grounds for voiding warranty? What a crappy problem since I just finished a quick leaktest on my water loop and wanted to see if this would make my rig any more stable... maybe the particular board I have was just doomed to fail since it was manufactured. Thanks Asus! </sarcasm>
Passive cooling FTL with this board! But if you must I suggest redoing everything with AS5. Otherwise, yea remove that cover and slap a fan on there.
lawrywild
08-24-2006, 04:50 PM
Wow this is so lame. I put on a waterblock instead of my Zalman 9500 and now my motherboard is crying:
Floppy Controller Failure
No keyboard detected
CMOS Checksum bad (happened after I took the battery out and turned off the PSU)
If I plug in a USB keyboard, it'll detect but not function properly. If I plug in a PS/2 keyboard it says not detected. If I plug in both, it'll detect the USB and still not function properly.
The floppy is unplugged right now. If I plug it in, it'll sit trying to detect storage devices... it'll finish the SATA, IDE and USB, but then just sit there trying to (I assume) talk to the floppy drive.
Does Asus consider pull off that "Digital Home" and "Asus" heatsink heat-trap pieces of junk grounds for voiding warranty? What a crappy problem since I just finished a quick leaktest on my water loop and wanted to see if this would make my rig any more stable... maybe the particular board I have was just doomed to fail since it was manufactured. Thanks Asus! </sarcasm>
sounds like you havnt tried anything to fix it tbh.
did you re-flash the bios then clear cmos?
I did not flash any BIOS. I only removed every source of power (PSU and Battery).
I removed the mobo from the case, blew it with air and wiped around stuff with some cotton pads to pick up bits of junk (dust and plastic and whatever else is there).. it looks like it's detecting my keyboard, USB or PS/2, and letting me do keypresses. Not sure if the extended power out, or the cleaning was the fix... but at least I can interact again :)
BTW I've already reseated all the sinks with AS5. Doesn't help much though :)
I was pretty worried because at one point, unplugging or plugging in the USB keyboard would make the computer turn on... very very strange. My heart is still kind of beating strangely after the near-death experience of this motherboard. Gaggghghh!!!!
lawrywild
08-24-2006, 05:40 PM
I did not flash any BIOS. I only removed every source of power (PSU and Battery).
I removed the mobo from the case, blew it with air and wiped around stuff with some cotton pads to pick up bits of junk (dust and plastic and whatever else is there).. it looks like it's detecting my keyboard, USB or PS/2, and letting me do keypresses. Not sure if the extended power out, or the cleaning was the fix... but at least I can interact again :)
BTW I've already reseated all the sinks with AS5. Doesn't help much though :)
I was pretty worried because at one point, unplugging or plugging in the USB keyboard would make the computer turn on... very very strange. My heart is still kind of beating strangely after the near-death experience of this motherboard. Gaggghghh!!!!
Normal behaviour because you're plugging the keyboard into ports 3 and 4. Use 1 and 2.
kidstechno
08-24-2006, 05:57 PM
Does anyone know why it won't boot past a certain FSB without enabling RAM timings by SPD? Is it because the RAM sucks? I changed it to manual timings (it should be 4-4-4-12 @ 800mhz) changed vMCH, vDIMM, and it still wouldn't boot, even at loosened timings of 5-5-5-15, and it set it to 5-6-6-18 :(
Suppose its best to leave the SPD Auto, while you clock the rest, less to think about ;)
You can always tighten the timings after, not that benching shows much change in the bandwidth department.
i||uSi0n^ - sounds like a PS issue maybe
Mr.Kakarot
08-24-2006, 06:37 PM
Hi, I am only running a sata hard drive.... my roms are IDE.
But at boot up, or reboot... it stays at the first screen forever, before booting
(just shows the proc and what speed it is running at)?
thx
davexl
08-24-2006, 07:09 PM
I have a real problem and I am at a loss to work out what I can do.
I currently have 4 x 512Mb Corsair XMS2 cas5 RAM but there seems to be a problem when using all four. If I have all four sims in the computer wont post. nothing at all, just sits there. If I take out the Dimms from slots 1 and 2the computer boots fine. snip.
I have 4 x 1G sticks, and had to run slower 2T timings with my AMD X2, and I think Intel have the same limitations.
I am running 4 x 1G on my 6400 fine - althought this GSKILL did need 2.0V without giving errors.
Are you running SPD timings or manually setting them? Try SPD...
Ibinco
08-24-2006, 10:58 PM
:woot: I'd like too :)
Heard some people from overclocking masters had less Vdroop with it ( 0.02 )
no links there
Gotta try 1301 maybe and see
Actually Vdroop is 0.05 ( bios 1101 )
BIOS 1301??? Where how when? I looked on asus yet no luck!
Mykou
08-25-2006, 12:51 AM
:woot:
BIOS 1301??? Where how when? I looked on asus yet no luck!
look there:
http://wiki.p5wdh.de/doku.php?id=downloads:bios
;)
SteveS
08-25-2006, 02:22 AM
I have 4 x 1G sticks, and had to run slower 2T timings with my AMD X2, and I think Intel have the same limitations.
I am running 4 x 1G on my 6400 fine - althought this GSKILL did need 2.0V without giving errors.
Are you running SPD timings or manually setting them? Try SPD...
To be honest I havent touched them, threw everything together and expected it to at least post. But I dont even get that with all 4 Dimms in. The fans spin etc but there is not even a beep after I puch the power button.
I took the Dimms out of Slots 1 and 2 and it posts. I can get to the Bios and I have upped the voltage to 2.1v put the dims back in and still nothing.
It cant be a faulty mboard, what are the odds of 2 motherboards having exactly the same problem. and Corsair are saying that this RAM is compatible with this Mboard.
i||uSi0n^
08-25-2006, 03:23 AM
hi,
i wanted to ask that if others here with this board get some random lockups ? since yesterday i got them twice...but on the last one but pc didnt wanted to boot...no display only fans turned on...i took out the powercable and let it sit for 5 mins,once i put back the powercable the board turn on itself for 3secs...then went off, but it booted fine when i pushed the power button in front of casing...anyhow idea what causes that ?
i||uSi0n^
EDIT: im using bios 1101, board came with 0701...and all settings are on auto/stock.
hi again,
im still having the same problem...but now its even more often...its just a random lockup...i have removed dh remote, disable wlan, turn off firewire port, still get that problem...can it be motherboard related ? i have tried other pair of ram, the psu is brandnew and all volts are looking good according to everest...has any'1 else here get same prob? each time after the lock up i must leave the pc for 5 mins to get it to boot again else it doesnt...
thanks,
i||uSi0n^
Mykou
08-25-2006, 04:00 AM
hi again,
im still having the same problem...but now its even more often...its just a random lockup...i have removed dh remote, disable wlan, turn off firewire port, still get that problem...can it be motherboard related ? i have tried other pair of ram, the psu is brandnew and all volts are looking good according to everest...has any'1 else here get same prob? each time after the lock up i must leave the pc for 5 mins to get it to boot again else it doesnt...
thanks,
i||uSi0n^
When I talked about ramdom boot with that mobo happening sometimes next morning , nobody was interrested to answer ....
here it is
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1661153&postcount=324
:fact: :fact:
:D:D
i||uSi0n^
08-25-2006, 04:08 AM
When I talked about ramdom boot with that mobo happening sometimes next morning , nobody was interrested to answer ....
:D
yeah i get the same feeling :)
anyhow did u resolve the prob?
i||uSi0n^
Mykou
08-25-2006, 04:12 AM
yeah i get the same feeling :)
anyhow did u resolve the prob?
i||uSi0n^
I load defauts setup bios and then use my o/c settings then next morning could boot without pb .
But did that once and this morning stopped while posting .:p:
I wonder if this issue is not related to usb ports ( have to try unplug all my external usb devices )
i||uSi0n^ we have mobo and ram in common though...
I didn't noticed that before I flashed to bios 1101 .. hmmm ( but I'm quite happy with it so )
Just annoying
i||uSi0n^
08-25-2006, 04:36 AM
well im using all stock settings and no o/c, i have tried putting stress load on motherboard etc to see if it will lockup but it doesnt, like i said its really random...i tried to look logs in windows but nothing there either...
i||uSi0n^
fornowagain
08-25-2006, 05:26 AM
1101 made mine freeze solid every now and then, 903 is fine.
i||uSi0n^
08-25-2006, 05:30 AM
hum its true that i never tried 0701 bios that came with board, flashed it directly to 1101...which is the best bios version till now for this board ?
i||uSi0n^
Cornel
08-25-2006, 06:53 AM
Hi guys.
I've have ha problem.
I connected a P-ATA harddrive on my P5W DH.
Worked nice a few days, but now i cant find it. Not in the bios not in windows.
It's no big deal, planning to move the disk to an another computer anyway.
The P-ata controller is enabled, i see the message "no disk attaced" or somthing like that. My P-ata dvd rom works fine. (another controller)
I got an E6600 2.4@3.6 ghz, 400 fsb.
hot_fifty
08-25-2006, 08:25 AM
try another bios - or try to clock down and see - or get another cable
JoeBar
08-25-2006, 08:56 AM
I updated to a P5WDH along with a Conroe 6400 and i'm having lots of issues with it.
First it a year to read from the dvd drive (propably PIO mode), second i believe that my raptor also is quite slow too and lastly i have numerous usb issues (with my bluetooth usb keyboard set, external hd not recognised plus others). I thought that it would be a very good companion from my 6400 but instead of oc'ing the hell out of it now, i'm dealing with usb issues... :mad:
I'm returning it on Monday for a P5B Deluxe.
Durzel
08-25-2006, 09:03 AM
lawrywild:
Can you add the "Board does not read negative CPU temperatures below -27.5°C" issue please? :) There is no resolution, it's just how the board behaves. In fact it reports a massive overheat (127.5+) in the BIOS at anything below this. I'm sure a lot of people running phase, like myself, are going to end up unduely worried until they are made aware of this fact.
lawrywild
08-25-2006, 09:14 AM
lawrywild:
Can you add the "Board does not read negative CPU temperatures below -27.5°C" issue please? :) There is no resolution, it's just how the board behaves. In fact it reports a massive overheat (127.5+) in the BIOS at anything below this. I'm sure a lot of people running phase, like myself, are going to end up unduely worried until they are made aware of this fact.
Pretty much every board does that. The DFI Nf4's did that, it's nothing new...
I updated to a P5WDH along with a Conroe 6400 and i'm having lots of issues with it.
First it a year to read from the dvd drive (propably PIO mode), second i believe that my raptor also is quite slow too and lastly i have numerous usb issues (with my bluetooth usb keyboard set, external hd not recognised plus others). I thought that it would be a very good companion from my 6400 but instead of oc'ing the hell out of it now, i'm dealing with usb issues... :mad:
I'm returning it on Monday for a P5B Deluxe.
Which IDE and SATA ports are you using? Also try plugging in a PS2 keyboard.
Durzel
08-25-2006, 09:29 AM
Pretty much every board does that. The DFI Nf4's did that, it's nothing new...Ok, but for someone coming from an Abit IC7-MAX3 it's new :) At least one other person has already posted another thread (in addition to the one I did) asking about it. Not all of us graduated from AMDs.
The Nemesis
08-25-2006, 12:38 PM
I'd like to thank everyone for a good read. This thread has been very helpful in setting up my current build. After reading this for a few days and going through two bios shipments from asus I've determined my cpu either suxs or this board is holding it back. To get 3.4ghz to pass 30 mins of orthos takes 1.65 to be set in bios. I can complete 3DMark06 @ 3.6ghz but orthos fails in two min. Using the 1101 bios, I'm currently priming @ 3.2ghz with 1.5vcore set in bios which drops as low as 1.464v under load. I'm gonna try the cpu on the MSI board tonight after I pass 12 hours dual prime @ this setting.:stick: O and the ASUS Panel really suxs!!! It reads everything wrong.
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/1969/32ghz15vcore1stscreeniecy6.jpg
Mykou
08-25-2006, 01:25 PM
I'd like to thank everyone for a good read. This thread has been very helpful in setting up my current build. After reading this for a few days and going through two bios shipments from asus I've determined my cpu either suxs or this board is holding it back. To get 3.4ghz to pass 30 mins of orthos takes 1.65 to be set in bios. I can complete 3DMark06 @ 3.6ghz but orthos fails in two min. I'm currently priming @ 3.2ghz with 1.5vcore set in bios which drops as low as 1.464v under load. I'm gonna try the cpu on the MSI board tonight after I pass 12 hours dual prime @ this setting.:stick: O and the ASUS Panel really suxs!!! It reads everything wrong.
Did you try bios 1101 ?
I use less vcore with it :)
syne_24
08-25-2006, 02:04 PM
@Mykou
So you're running 1.48 vcore with 3.5 prime stable? Thats pretty good. I'm try to see how low I can go once I finish Orthos. I think you're x10 multiply might have to something to do with it since you dont need a higher fsb as I do. I'm at 1.53 right now, its not too bad for daily with water cooling, but I'd like to see maybe even under 1.5v too :)
Mykou
08-25-2006, 02:09 PM
@Mykou
So you're running 1.48 vcore with 3.5 prime stable? Thats pretty good. I'm try to see how low I can go once I finish Orthos. I think you're x10 multiply might have to something to do with it since you dont need a higher fsb as I do. I'm at 1.53 right now, its not too bad for daily with water cooling, but I'd like to see maybe even under 1.5v too :)
Yes could be , E6700 was my choice after E6400 I tried and effectively needed more vcore even to get 3.2 ghz
yes 3.5 ghz @1.48 bios since I have bios 1101 ! :banana:
I'm very pleased with the thermalright ultra 120 + gigabyte 3D aurora
I only miss changing multi ;) maybe I 'll take a look on the 1201
The Nemesis
08-25-2006, 02:34 PM
Did you try bios 1101 ?
I use less vcore with it :)
sorry I'll edit my post, 1101 shipped with the bios's asus sent me. I tried 1.45vcore up to the 1.5vcore I'm currently at. 3.2GHz is not bad, but I wanted 3.4ghz without extreme volts as a minimum. Gonna go for another cpu and sell this on if it doesn't do better on the MSI.
Mykou
08-25-2006, 02:54 PM
sorry I'll edit my post, 1101 shipped with the bios's asus sent me. I tried 1.45vcore up to the 1.5vcore I'm currently at. 3.2GHz is not bad, but I wanted 3.4ghz without extreme volts as a minimum. Gonna go for another cpu and sell this on if it doesn't do better on the MSI.
I wonder whether it is not mobo related
Some gigabyte owners seem to use less core at same frequencies
However , what I noticed is my mobo doesn't like high vcore - One day I could'nt even post at 3.93 Ghz with 1.7V bios ( crazy I'm ....:p: ) and next day I posted successfully with "only" 1.62V and with synchronous ram which was impossible few days before without spd ..
:confused:
very curious :D
syne_24
08-25-2006, 03:11 PM
yes this board is very moody sometimes..
Brahmzy
08-25-2006, 04:34 PM
I wonder whether it is not mobo related
Some gigabyte owners seem to use less core at same frequencies
However , what I noticed is my mobo doesn't like high vcore - One day I could'nt even post at 3.93 Ghz with 1.7V bios ( crazy I'm ....:p: ) and next day I posted successfully with "only" 1.62V and with synchronous ram which was impossible few days before without spd ..
:confused:
very curious :D
I had to use less VCore on my DS3 than on this P5W for the same stable 356x9 OC. Kinda sucks.
The Nemesis
08-25-2006, 05:54 PM
I read somewhere in this thread that this board uses tight timings in the bootstrap which makes this board benchmark higher than others but tougher to set up and overclock. Wish someone could explain all that more clearly so perhaps we could figure out how to get more out of our cpus without requiring the added volts. It would also do well to have more memory options in the bios anyway for us tweakers. But maybe I've been using AMD & DFI for so long I've raised my expectations of an enthusiast board beyond that which is currently availabe for the conroe platform.
miochza
08-25-2006, 05:59 PM
You and me both buddy. The only thing that has helped me get a stable overclock is more Vcore.
vallik
08-25-2006, 11:32 PM
ive got my CPU stable @ 3060 1.3625 Vcore and can boot @ 3244 @ 1.3775 Vcore
but anything above that wont load windows i tried 1.4 Vcore @ 3.3 and it didnt like it am i trying with to low Vcore or did i just get a dud chip?
cooler is a scythe Ninja and im getting alot of diff temp readings
speedfan tells me 19C all coretemp reads 37-38 and ASUS probe reads 21-23
what temp is likely to be correct whats safe?
what vcore is safe for my cooler?
Brahmzy
08-25-2006, 11:43 PM
More VCore. Try 1.45V to start. That's very safe with decent air.
Your chip already OC's better than mine. That is, of course if it's Orthos stable at those settings.
vallik
08-25-2006, 11:50 PM
More VCore. Try 1.45V to start. That's very safe with decent air.
Your chip already OC's better than mine. That is, of course if it's Orthos stable at those settings.
dual prime for 4 hours
i know thats not considered "stable by most" but i havnt had it crash doing anything so its good enough for me for the time being once i get to 3.2-3.4 ill run an 8-12 hour prime
whats temps should i be looking @ staying under?
which of my temp reading seems valid?
so vcore wise there the same as the AMD x2's they can take 1.5+ and still be somewhat safe? (my X2 4400 nedded to have 1.55 Vcore to run 3D mark @ 2.6)
The Nemesis
08-26-2006, 12:18 AM
Well I'm at the same stupid 3.2ghz dual prime stable limit as just about everyone else. I'm about to remove board & cpu now and give the msi a go.
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6217/32ghz15vcore12hoursprimestablenh6.jpg
famich
08-26-2006, 01:18 AM
NO probs here so far , I got one of the early series though, came with the 0401 BIOS-but after flashing to 0903 it s OK :D
Mykou
08-26-2006, 01:26 AM
I had to use less VCore on my DS3 than on this P5W for the same stable 356x9 OC. Kinda sucks.
IT would be interresting to have compared orthos stability at the same vcore /frequency ( Vdroop surely not the same )
famich
08-26-2006, 01:41 AM
Mykou, that s probably right :)
BIOS 1201 just posted on Asus' web site! Anybody try it???
P.S. How are you guys "Dual Priming"? I can only get one window to run.
Cornel
08-26-2006, 06:44 AM
for dual super pi
Copy the .exe into two executables and open both
Go to task manager and set the affinities so that one instance pertains to Core0 and the other to Core1
Run them simultaneously.
(copied txt from another post)
Thanks.
Now Asus' web site only lists 0801 as the most recent BIOS update. WTF?
miochza
08-26-2006, 08:01 AM
Famich, that is a nasty OC. Your vcore for 3.6 is what my vcore is for 3.2 :(
Mr.Kakarot
08-26-2006, 08:07 AM
Hi, I am only running a sata hard drive.... my roms are IDE.
But at boot up, or reboot... it stays at the first screen forever, before booting
(just shows the proc and what speed it is running at)?
thx
Still no answer, I did all of the things in this thread...
On another note, do you run 2 instances of orthos... or just one? If you run 2, is there a way to set them to each cpu (like in prime). Or do you just run the 2 instances... thx
FlimFlam00
08-26-2006, 08:49 AM
OK check this out.
My specs:
c2d e6600
p5w dh
x1900 xt
So I have serious video problems. BIOS splash, POST info, Windows Logon screen, etc are all artifacted, skewed, etc. It is barely readable. I have 3 x1900 cards, and none have worked.
Now ocassionally, I get a normal screen. The last time I did, I loaded the Catalyst drivers, and now during Win logon, the video signal just dies. Any ideas?
I think that I have ruled out it being the gpus. Right now, I am stumped.
Thanks.
Helidoc
08-26-2006, 09:26 AM
The new bios can be found here for those that are daring.....
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/:banana:
Brahmzy
08-26-2006, 09:26 AM
Famich, that is a nasty OC. Your vcore for 3.6 is what my vcore is for 3.2 :(
No kidding...I wish I had his Proc. :( 400MHz better!
Ibinco
08-26-2006, 10:02 AM
Just installed it bios 1201.. still cant boot @ 370FSB+ without having to enable SPD settings {auto} No mem timings options added. Conclusion...eh..it still sucks
dragonhunter
08-26-2006, 10:02 AM
This cold boot thing is killing my Vapo. When the p5w cold boot, it also turned off the Vapo. Is there a way to get around this?
thanks guys
eva2000
08-26-2006, 10:18 AM
Is what i'm experiencing below the so called 360-370fsb limit on async dividers only but not sync 1:1?
my P5W DH with 0801 bios with 2x1GB Gskill PC6400PHU2 HZ Micron D9GMH (0629) doesn't seem to like 4:5 upclock divider past 378fsb (gives 472mhz mem) for now :( Nor does it like 2:3 beyond 360fsb (gives 541mhz mem). This is with manually set timings of 4-4-4-12 regardless of vdimm used. Haven't tried setting SPD for memory to boot yet.
P5W DH i have doesn't seem to like 4-4-3 timings where tRP = 3 either, can't pass memtest86+ v1.65 higher than 460-472mhz 4-4-3 (manually set in bios) regardless of vdimm used or divider used. Same memory on Badaxe board did 488mhz 4-4-3-5 at 2.2v!
But 1:1 seems best for E6600 due to max fsb limitations I wonder how far i can go just for testing single Super Pi v1.50 32M :)
Testing max single Super Pi v1.50 32M:
vdimm = 2.3v (seems to help stable things due to tighter timings at 1:1 clocks especially when you get closer to P5W DH's max FSB wall)
Bios Settings:
vFSB = 1.3v
vMCH = 1.65v
vICH = AUTO
Performance mode = Standard
Hyperpath3 = Disabled
DDRAM Throttling = Disabled
* All tests are straight boot from bios with manual timings set at 4-4-4-8 4 at 2.3v
* All tests are untweaked with default P5W DH set timings. Have yet to even tweak with memset or drop tRP to 3 yet.
@3807Mhz - 9x423fsb at 1.55v bios vcore = 1.508 bios
32M = 13min 41.797s (http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5WDH/results/E6600_1/swiftechg4storm/Gskill/PC6400PHU2/19_20/0801/9x/533/423-423-4448-4_1.55-1.3-1.65-2.25_std/superpi-32m_single_13min41s797ms.png)
@3897Mhz - 9x433fsb at 1.6v bios vcore
32M = 13min 16.672s (http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5WDH/results/E6600_1/swiftechg4storm/Gskill/PC6400PHU2/19_20/0801/9x/533/433-433-4448-4_1.6-1.3-1.65-2.3_std/superpi-32m_single_13min16s672ms.png)
@3924Mhz - 9x436fsb at 1.625v bios vcore
32M = 13min 09.953s (http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5WDH/results/E6600_1/swiftechg4storm/Gskill/PC6400PHU2/19_20/0801/9x/533/436-436-4448-4_1.625-1.3-1.65-2.3_std/superpi-32m_single_13min09s953ms.png)
@3942Mhz - 9x438fsb at 1.6375v bios vcore
32M = 13min 09.578s (http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5WDH/results/E6600_1/swiftechg4storm/Gskill/PC6400PHU2/19_20/0801/9x/533/438-438-4448-4_1.6375-1.3-1.65-2.3_std/superpi-32m_single_13min09s578ms.png)
Hit max FSB limit of vMCH 1.65v, raised vMCH to 1.75v
@3960Mhz - 9x440fsb at 1.65v bios vcore
32M = 13min 04.969s (http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5WDH/results/E6600_1/swiftechg4storm/Gskill/PC6400PHU2/19_20/0801/9x/533/440-440-4448-4_1.65-1.3-1.75-2.3_std/superpi-32m_single_13min04s969ms.png)
@3987Mhz - 9x443fsb at 1.6625v bios vcore = 1.64v windows idle and 1.61-1.63v load
32M = 13min 00.750s (http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5WDH/results/E6600_1/swiftechg4storm/Gskill/PC6400PHU2/19_20/0801/9x/533/443-443-4448-4_1.6625-1.3-1.75-2.3_std/superpi-32m_single_13min00s750ms.png)
JoeBar
08-26-2006, 10:46 AM
Which IDE and SATA ports are you using? Also try plugging in a PS2 keyboard.
I'm using sata port 1 for my os hd and i've tried sata ports 3/4 for my backup hd. Intel ide connector for my dvd.
I've tried a ps2 keyboard but my mb still has usb issues. It refuses to recognise my external usb hd.
OK check this out.
My specs:
c2d e6600
p5w dh
x1900 xt
So I have serious video problems. BIOS splash, POST info, Windows Logon screen, etc are all artifacted, skewed, etc. It is barely readable. I have 3 x1900 cards, and none have worked.
Now ocassionally, I get a normal screen. The last time I did, I loaded the Catalyst drivers, and now during Win logon, the video signal just dies. Any ideas?
I think that I have ruled out it being the gpus. Right now, I am stumped.
Thanks.
I have this same problem, i rma'ed my 3d card still waiting for new one.
But you now say it couldn't be the card, i hope it isn't the board :mad:
What bios are you using ? Do you have artifacts in windows safe mode ?
I only had artifacts in POST and in windows nothing but once i installed drivers i got black screen.
I have a 7950GX2.
Mine also booted while there was no plug from the psu connected to the 3d card, didn't even gave a warning about that.
I have seen other people with this problem and say its because memory of the 3d card is broken?
Khaotic
08-26-2006, 11:43 AM
I have this same problem, i rma'ed my 3d card still waiting for new one.
But you now say it couldn't be the card, i hope it isn't the board :mad:
What bios are you using ? Do you have artifacts in windows safe mode ?
I only had artifacts in POST and in windows nothing but once i installed drivers i got black screen.
I have a 7950GX2.
Mine also booted while there was no plug from the psu connected to the 3d card, didn't even gave a warning about that.
I have seen other people with this problem and say its because memory of the 3d card is broken?
This sounds to me like the nasty PEG LINK mode option in the BIOS is affecting these cards even before any serious 3D Function calls are being made.
If you don't already know - PEG LINK is feature on nearly all boards, just called different things by different vendors, but it overclocks the card at boot-up and its handled by the motherboard. It handles nVidia and ATI cards differently. In my experience, it's never been a good thing. If you're running the "entire" system at stock/default levels - sure it can help. But, who the heck does that? Go into the BIOS and turn that nasty PEG LINK mode to NORMAL and see how things go then.
Durzel
08-26-2006, 11:47 AM
This cold boot thing is killing my Vapo. When the p5w cold boot, it also turned off the Vapo. Is there a way to get around this?
thanks guysI'd like to know the answer to this too. I guess the easiest way would be to wire up the ChillControl board so that the power switch on your case switches the Vapo on, and the reset button switches your PC on (reset cable plugged into PWR-SW on motherboard). This would mean of course you wouldn't have a reset button, and you'd have to power off the Vapo manually after the PC has been switched off (using the power button).
That's the only way I can think of fixing it, unless there is some way of configuring the Vapo to wait at least 5-10 seconds before shutting itself down.
This sounds to me like the nasty PEG LINK mode option in the BIOS is affecting these cards even before any serious 3D Function calls are being made.
If you don't already know - PEG LINK is feature on nearly all boards, just called different things by different vendors, but it overclocks the card at boot-up and its handled by the motherboard. It handles nVidia and ATI cards differently. In my experience, it's never been a good thing. If you're running the "entire" system at stock/default levels - sure it can help. But, who the heck does that? Go into the BIOS and turn that nasty PEG LINK mode to NORMAL and see how things go then.
i see, I come from a AGP board i didn't know this.
But i have to say i booted a few times fine and could install drivers, but running 3dmark gave heavy artifacts and all of a sudden i got those artis in post and black screen when in windows.
Could it be that the motherboard screwed the video card because of the oc?
famich
08-26-2006, 01:29 PM
No kidding...I wish I had his Proc. :( 400MHz better!
Just a luck of the draw... bought in Germany :p:
That s why I don t believe in this crap about tray CPUS being worse than the retail ones
FlimFlam00
08-27-2006, 12:00 AM
I have this same problem, i rma'ed my 3d card still waiting for new one.
But you now say it couldn't be the card, i hope it isn't the board :mad:
What bios are you using ? Do you have artifacts in windows safe mode ?
I only had artifacts in POST and in windows nothing but once i installed drivers i got black screen.
I have a 7950GX2.
Mine also booted while there was no plug from the psu connected to the 3d card, didn't even gave a warning about that.
I have seen other people with this problem and say its because memory of the 3d card is broken?
Sorry I did not reply. Here is the deal.
I installed my OS, and then ran into the video problem. I tried everything I knew. The splash screen would be OK, then I would get severe flashing and skewed views of the screen. The aspect rato would be like 400 x 200.
I had two x1900s since I ran xfire but since Irun dual monitors and have sli on my other rig, running both was a moot point. So I sitched out cards in a single config. Then i RMA'd both. Anyway, I got a brand new card back, and still, same problems. Doh! I thought with my luck that i actually may have had two funky x1900s.
Anyway, I reinstalled the OS, and then I basically was able to get the CS drievrs in and the video drivers. Then the Windows splash would die. So I made ever basic fix noted in this thread in the BIOS.
I flashed to 1201. Also, I just reseated everything. I thought my dvi kvm may have been a problem. It is a Blekin that is temperamental and I don't know if it is the actual kvm hub or one of the cables.
Anway, it seems to be resolved. I don't know what fix did it. It got annoying, so I did not do a methodical pin point of the problem but doing individual changes.
it was exponentially annoying since I modded a Lian Li pc201, and spent a lot of time prepping the unit and waiting for parts etc. i spent a week building around work, school, modding, and parts coming in. so when i encountered problem after problem, it just got more irksome as things went along.
It always seems like with each new build i get a whole slew of new problems.
Nonetheless, it was worth it, because my mosheen is coming together. I'll post some pics again. I wish that i could provide some definitve answers right now, but it seems the 1201 bios is stable for me, and that about 90% of the BIOS settings recommended in this thread are relevant and vital.
i||uSi0n^
08-27-2006, 04:07 PM
hi,
i wanted to know that the temps for motherboard under "pc probe" or "everest" is for northbridge or the southbridge ? mine is alwayz @ 46~49C which i find pretty high....what temps do you guys get ?
i||uSi0n^
fornowagain
08-27-2006, 04:23 PM
Second power source for the chillblast?
dragonhunter
08-27-2006, 04:39 PM
The problem is when the P5W cold boot, it's also power down the PSU which feeding the ChillControl. What I did is I hooked up the ChillControl to a different PSU and power them up separately while O/Cing from Bios.
-Asus should have given the endusers the option to disable the cold boot in the Bios if we don't want that option.
If I know this cold boot effect my Vapo, I would NOT buy this board.
[G.N.U.]Fragman
08-27-2006, 05:13 PM
Yup. My experience EXACTLY. Sure you'll have the few folks that got a really good chip that can hit 3.6GHz on air without killing their CPU - but they're a VERY small percentage.
me 3 ;) ...350FSB no problem 365 a little problem, stuck at 375....dont want to fry it.
2 quickies...
1. What is FSB termination voltage..and what to choose ?
2. vmch 1,65v safe ...changed paste and have a little 50mm fan above NB....
M.Beier
08-27-2006, 05:20 PM
Some new "errors"
1.
Asus has quite ALOT of vdroop on vcore
2.
Asus has HUGH, vdroop on vdimm - its more than 0,3v :shocked:
3.
Error with Sis Sandra scores when hitting above 8GB/s, it will just stock, but everything else will still increase (SPI etc.)
rogue_elefant
08-27-2006, 06:22 PM
WD150 Raptor Drives not working properly!!!
These drives worked 100% fine on DFI Expert in raid0.
I initially had the same issues with running these drives on this mobo, but somehow, not sure what changed, they worked. The were running really well for the last week, no problems at all.
Earlier I had tried both the intel and silicon image controller, both with varied results. But now as I have had the system up and running on the intel controller, I dont wont to change it. I dont wont to re-install, or loose my data if possible.
Anyone got any ideas? I have logged a call with ASUS, maybe they can recommend something or a bios fix could fix it?
It's wierd that I did have it working. Anyone recommend a bios setting or something that I may have missed?
My issues with the bios not picking up my 2 WD 150 Raptors is back! I was running bios v801, all was working fine, then I upgraded to 1201, and got my disk problem again, so I rolled back to 801, and I still have the disk problem!
It is driving me insane!!!
The bios does not detect the hard drives properly. I have 2 WD 150 Raptor drives, 1 plugged into Sata1 and the other plugged into Sata2. I have configured the Intel controller to be in RAID mode, and plan on running the drives in a RAID0 array No other drives are connected to the system. I have tried multiple bios versions.
The system at one stage was working fine and detecting the drives properly, I was able to create a raid array, and install XP etc. But it stopped working after a bios upgrade. I have also tried to reset the cmos to factory defaults - removed power, removed batter, and changed cmos clear jumper, but that did not help.
The WD 150 Drives work 100% in an AMD NF4 based system. I can use 2 WD 500GB SataII 16mb cache drives and create a raid array etc with no problems. The only problem is with the Raptor high speed drives.
I have tried multiple power supplies with the same results. I have 2 power supplies:-
Antec NeoHE 550W
Silverstone ST60F 600w
I get varied results, with the bios detecting the drives.
Sometimes it comes up with the following:-
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Auto-Detecting 3rd Master..IDE Hard disk
Auto-Detecting 3rd Slave...Not detected
Auto-Detecting 4th Master..Not detected
Auto-Detecting 4th Master..Not detected
3rd Master .0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0 19.06P.0
Auto-detecting USB Mass Storage Devices ..
00 USB mass storage devices found and configured
3rd Master Hard Disk Error
Press F1 to Resume
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
sometime I get this:-
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Auto-Detecting 3rd Master..IDE Hard disk
Auto-Detecting 3rd Slave...IDE Hard disk
Auto-Detecting 4th Master..Not detected
Auto-Detecting 4th Master..Not detected
3rd Slave: WDC WD1500ADFD-00NLR0 19.06P19
3rd Slave Hard DiskError
Press F1 to Resume
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Other times it goes past the initial bios screen and shows the "Intel Matrix Storage Manager" RAID Bios. This is still with only the 2 WD 150GB Raptor drives.
and shows that the raid0 status has failed, and the physical disks are as follows:-
Port Drive Model Serial# Size Type/Status
0 ? Bz? Bz? Bz? Bz Bz?Bz?Bz?Bz?Bz? 511.0GB Non-raid disk
2 WDC WD1500ADFD-0 WD-WMAP41062308 139.7GB Member Disk(0)
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What is going on?
Anyone have any ideas?
Cheers
eva2000
08-27-2006, 06:28 PM
I got a reply from an Asus contact about the auto power down:
This behaviour is caused by system's limitation. For over-clocking, the
internal PLL of NB would not lock on the high clock right away, so that means
system could not hold on the clock frequency immediately after reset. That's
why we add a auto-power down scheme to fix this issue. Of course, this
behaviour only occurs at over-clocking scenario.
2.
Asus has HUGH, vdroop on vdimm - its more than 0,3v :shocked:
0.3v? Are you sure you're measuring the right spot?
I doubt it. The vmodders surely would have said something about this!!!
Nathanael
08-27-2006, 06:48 PM
Found another thing:
If I enable auto on after power loss the board won't initialize the video card for me.
BIOS - 1101
MSI 7900GT
jkresh
08-27-2006, 09:08 PM
Hi, I am having some very strange problems.
Water-cooling my p5wdh (just processor for now, chipset has a zalman passive sink on it and is running at 35C, processor doesnt go above 25c at full dual prime load).
I haven’t started over clocking but I am having random crashes. I can run dual prime95 for hours on end (without an error), run 3dmark fine, run burin tests on every part fine. But if I try to just do regular computing it locks up (I.e. I could after 8 hours of no errors in prime click on the start menu and it would completely lock). I tried booting a ubuntu disk but it wont load (not sure if it relates to the fact that I am using a sata DVD drive), I havent reinstalled windows yet but I am running out of ideas on what else to try. Any suggestions would be appreciated (running bios 1101, thinking of going back). I have tried clearing the cmos and even left the battery out for hours (after putting it back I haven’t been able to get it to remember settings as every time I unplug it looses everything).
heikis
08-27-2006, 10:11 PM
ive got a problem with the P5W DH DELUXE when using a PCI-E videocard.
when i use an old PCI videocard (ATI rage pro 8mb) then i have no problems overclocking my motherboard with 450FSB and 1.65vMCH. then it boots fine (cold boot ocourse) and no problems when restarting it.
BUT when i use x1900xt or x800GT with 1,5V MCH and 400FSB then after the restart it does the cold boot, but after the cold boot it powers on for like 2 seconds and then it shuts down. and if i power on the PC then it boots at default clocks and with an error message "overclocking or overvoltage failed".
im using fortron bluestorm 500W and tried the chieftec 400W (with chieftec the problem seemed to have gone away for sometime, but reappeared again). my friend who used almost the same setup as i did (same mem, same motherboard, conroe not allendale, seasonic 430W) has no problems. could it really be my PSU, should i buy the seasonic?
OneyedK
08-27-2006, 10:51 PM
i wanted to know that the temps for motherboard under "pc probe" or "everest" is for northbridge or the southbridge ? mine is alwayz @ 46~49C which i find pretty high....what temps do you guys get ?
Is the southbridge temp...
At first I had the 48°C you mentioned.
So I lapped the stupid ASUS-sink and applied AS5...
This gave me a 43°C reading.
I glued a 50mm-fan on top of it.
This keeps the temp around 32°C...
catscit
08-28-2006, 01:59 AM
Hi, I am having some very strange problems.
Water-cooling my p5wdh (just processor for now, chipset has a zalman passive sink on it and is running at 35C, processor doesnt go above 25c at full dual prime load).
I haven’t started over clocking but I am having random crashes. I can run dual prime95 for hours on end (without an error), run 3dmark fine, run burin tests on every part fine. But if I try to just do regular computing it locks up (I.e. I could after 8 hours of no errors in prime click on the start menu and it would completely lock). I tried booting a ubuntu disk but it wont load (not sure if it relates to the fact that I am using a sata DVD drive), I havent reinstalled windows yet but I am running out of ideas on what else to try. Any suggestions would be appreciated (running bios 1101, thinking of going back). I have tried clearing the cmos and even left the battery out for hours (after putting it back I haven’t been able to get it to remember settings as every time I unplug it looses everything).
put a fan on the NB!
The temp you see is SB, the northbridge gets quite hot and gives the locking problem you describe!
I have a fan over the original NB heatsink, running D820 at 4GHz the northbridge will get to 65-70degC during load still! Vcore is 1.6, vdim is 2.2.
Works nearly 24/7 stable, but without the fan i get locks like you describe.
i||uSi0n^
08-28-2006, 02:03 AM
Is the southbridge temp...
At first I had the 48°C you mentioned.
So I lapped the stupid ASUS-sink and applied AS5...
This gave me a 43°C reading.
I glued a 50mm-fan on top of it.
This keeps the temp around 32°C...
OneyedK: ok thnx i will try to place fan on it and see if it helps...
jkresh: its 1101 bios that is causing random crash,i had get same problem...went back to 0901 and no more crash...
i||uSi0n^
I am running bios 1301. Seems to bring a bit more stability for me X6800. Went from 336 to 340 and dropped voltage .01
eva2000
08-28-2006, 02:41 AM
I am running bios 1301. Seems to bring a bit more stability for me X6800. Went from 336 to 340 and dropped voltage .01
interesting :D
MacClipper
08-28-2006, 02:51 AM
>jkresh: its 1101 bios that is causing random crash,i had get same problem...went back to 0901 and no more crash...
running almost 24/7 and no stability problem on 1101 but S3 resumes tend to occasionally lose USB2 speeds on the onboard USB hub, didn't notice this on earlier BIOS versions.
rogue_elefant
08-28-2006, 04:45 AM
FOUND A SOLUTION TO WD 150 RAPTOR ISSUES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was playing around in the bios, and if you set the "PCI Express Frequency" to anything but "AUTO" ie 100 or 101 then the bios picks up the drives perfectly 100% of the time.
I am so relieved! :banana: :toast: :woot:
fornowagain
08-28-2006, 05:11 AM
never mind.
Some new "errors"
1.
Asus has quite ALOT of vdroop on vcore
2.
Asus has HUGH, vdroop on vdimm - its more than 0,3v :shocked:
1.
My board had about 0.03V
2.
0.3V:p: (2.3V to 2.0V) :rolleyes:
My board have 0.00V without any mods
Brahmzy
08-28-2006, 07:40 AM
I got a reply from an Asus contact about the auto power down:
Thanks for this POST. Now I know, still don't like it, but now I know. :)
Brahmzy
08-28-2006, 07:42 AM
Fragman']me 3 ;) ...350FSB no problem 365 a little problem, stuck at 375....dont want to fry it.
2 quickies...
1. What is FSB termination voltage..and what to choose ?
2. vmch 1,65v safe ...changed paste and have a little 50mm fan above NB....
1. AUTO
2. 1.50 - you shouldn't need any VMCH increase at the low FSB speeds. VMCH only comes into play @ 400FSB+ or higher.
Playing with VMCH has made no difference whatsoever on my 3.2GHz/3.4GHz OC's. Don't run it hot if you have to.
Cornel
08-28-2006, 07:43 AM
What are your temprature on the chipset on Asus p5w dh?
Mine is 56c now...
Case is closed, cpu is water cooled.
M.Beier
08-28-2006, 07:52 AM
Yes Im 100% positive, I got vdimm and vmch mod on my board, none pencil style, but wires.. :)
They're made from pictures from Kyosen, so I have no doubt its 100% correct..
The sad thing is... Its not just 2.3->2.0v, would be to deal with..
But when using 2.85v, it can JUMP up to 3.1v during boot and during load in dualprime or dual 32M, go all the way down to 2.75v - and its not just with high voltage, have same issue at 2.3v
The 3.1v causes instant computer reboot... - I have to wait 2 get into windows and then turn up vdimm for benching.
dragonhunter
08-28-2006, 08:01 AM
Someone who is using Bios 1201, pls confirm that the Bios fix the cold boot on this board? thanks.
Somebody on another forum said so,
I am using the Vapo, this is very important to me
miochza
08-28-2006, 08:31 AM
I'm using 1201. There's no visible difference as far as I can see.
Cornel
08-28-2006, 10:03 AM
What do you guys have on:
Memory Voltage:
CPU Core Voltage:
FSB Termination Voltage:
MCH Chipset Voltage:
ICH Chipset Voltage:
copy'n paste!
i got:
Memory Voltage: 2.30
CPU Core Voltage: 1.550
FSB Termination Voltage: Auto
MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.65
ICH Chipset Voltage: Auto
Can changing the ICH and the FSB termination voltage help go overclock more?
M.Beier
08-28-2006, 10:17 AM
What do you guys have on:
Memory Voltage:
CPU Core Voltage:
FSB Termination Voltage:
MCH Chipset Voltage:
ICH Chipset Voltage:
copy'n paste!
i got:
Memory Voltage: 2.30
CPU Core Voltage: 1.550
FSB Termination Voltage: Auto
MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.65
ICH Chipset Voltage: Auto
Can changing the ICH and the FSB termination voltage help go overclock more?
Memory Voltage: 2.3
CPU Core Voltage: 1.575
FSB Termination Voltage: auto
MCH Chipset Voltage: auto (but manually set to 1.65v - modded board, allows HIGH volt for 1.65v in bios :fact: )
ICH Chipset Voltage: auto
The Nemesis
08-28-2006, 10:28 AM
Those of you hitting 3.6ghz or 400 FSB on this board, do you have the onboard wireless removed? I don't see a way to disable it other than within windows. Just wondering if this would help my OC.
famich
08-28-2006, 10:31 AM
Those of you hitting 3.6ghz or 400 FSB on this board, do you have the onboard wireless removed? I don't see a way to disable it other than within windows. Just wondering if this would help my OC.
Nope, I got it attached and running, yesterday I started a wifi network at home. I am using even the IR remote as well.:)
Trellame
08-28-2006, 10:34 AM
Hi, I'm not sure if this is a common problem or not, but frequently when trying to overclock, once I get above about 385 FSB I can post fine, but WinXP x64 often reports NTLDR missing, or occasionally starts up but blue screens after the login. Is there any simple solution for this, or am I just hitting the limit on something in my hardware setup? Thanks for any advice.
moonSymph
08-28-2006, 10:37 AM
hi guys.. i just bought this mobo.. its the new rev flashes with 1101 from factory(with the yellow sticker bios 1101) and my mch can reach as high as 1.85..(no i didnt do any mod) think it because of the new rev(hardware changes) as my fren tried to flash his mobo to 1101 and cant set to 1.85(no option).. hmm i was wondering wats the safest volt for mch and cpu if i am using the default heatpipe and gigabyte lcs for my cpu??
jkresh
08-28-2006, 10:43 AM
I switched back to 801 and am having the same issues so it doenst appear that its the bios and my northbridge heatsink is cool to the touch (also I have 7 fans each outputting 100+cfm in the case I doubt an extra fan on the north or south bridge could possibly be necessary). Have been running memtest for the last 11 hours without an error and I am stumped.
famich
08-28-2006, 10:58 AM
hi guys.. i just bought this mobo.. its the new rev flashes with 1101 from factory(with the yellow sticker bios 1101) and my mch can reach as high as 1.85..(no i didnt do any mod) think it because of the new rev(hardware changes) as my fren tried to flash his mobo to 1101 and cant set to 1.85(no option).. hmm i was wondering wats the safest volt for mch and cpu if i am using the default heatpipe and gigabyte lcs for my cpu??
There s a thread somewhere about this - most probably a new revision :p:
of the MB .
1,6 to 1,65 maximum on air
M.Beier
08-28-2006, 11:00 AM
Those of you hitting 3.6ghz or 400 FSB on this board, do you have the onboard wireless removed? I don't see a way to disable it other than within windows. Just wondering if this would help my OC.
I have, but makes no diff.. Only reason I have is that I use 100mbit LAN for all my computers except the laptops & mac - which suits me well :)
dragonhunter
08-28-2006, 11:08 AM
I'm using 1201. There's no visible difference as far as I can see.
So the Cold Boot still there with Bios 1201? thanks
The Nemesis
08-28-2006, 11:25 AM
1,6 to 1,65 maximum on air
So does anyone else feel that 1.6vcore is safe? I have entry level water and can get 3.2ghz with 1.5vcore set in bios for a 1.46-1.48vcore during orthos. I think I can ge more out of my cpu as I've completed 3DMark06 @ 3.6ghz but I had to have 1.65 set in bios. I thought the whole point of the 65nm process was to require less voltage to acheive same high clocks as previous generation thus running cooler etc. Most of us stopped around 1.55-1.6vcore for our opterons so maybe thats why I'm a bit hesitant.
Famich, I noticed you only require 1.48vcore for your 3.6ghz to be orthos stable. Thats awesome!
famich
08-28-2006, 12:58 PM
THX , Nemesis , I think this chip is good -and it s OEM :) week 24:)
-some people here stated that OEMs and week 24 particularly are not good chips. I dont know, but if it IS some kind of rule, sure s got its exeptions :)
I do not know anything about your WC setup, but 1.6 V Core should be no problem for you then . If you were able to complete 3DM06-you re on your way:D
Have you tried the 3DM06 loop ? If you d be able to run that loop / without a sound / for 2-3 hours, you can play games and you re good to go.
Me and my friends use this loop as additional means of testing stability.
PS As I m writing this , Orthos large FFTs runs in the background
for 3H -and the temps of CPU are 46.47C MB 47 C / Everest reading /
:clap:
lawrywild
08-28-2006, 03:28 PM
So the Cold Boot still there with Bios 1201? thanks
Yes, it's unlikely it'll ever be fixed by a bios update..
eva2000
08-28-2006, 04:03 PM
What are your temprature on the chipset on Asus p5w dh?
Mine is 56c now...
Case is closed, cpu is water cooled.
i just changed to radiical chipset water block on my P5W DH and put a thermal probe on top of my chipset waterblock too.. at 1.85v mch even the top of chipset block gets hot ~40.3C under load hehe
[G.N.U.]Fragman
08-28-2006, 04:08 PM
Crap....tried different things today, has serious issues with it..hyperpath 3 is no-go here at 375FSB....will try turning down the volt for NB if it wont do anything less stable
kpamir
08-28-2006, 04:18 PM
Hello,
I bought this motherboard for my E6600 set up and i have been having major problems with my DVD rom and DVDRW drives being forced into PIO mode regardless of what i set it to in the bios or device manager.
This causes MAJOR slowdown whenever my disk drives are in use. For example, it took me 10 minutes to burn a CDR, it takes my old sempron 2-4 mins to do the same job, and my mouse is jittering all over the place. 1 of my cores will be @ 100% load while the other fluctuates ...... this is unbearable.
My system specs are as follows
E6600
P5W DH
2gigs OCZ GOLD XTC ddr2 800mhz ram
320gb SATA Seagate 7200.10 hdd
Lite on DVDRW
LG DVDROM
BFG 7600GT
OCZ Modstream 450w
I have used the main IDE port (blue one) and the one that is controlled by the Jmicron chip. The Jmicron only picks up my drives as SCSI and i cant seem to get anything installed when using that. And the intel controller continuously switches my 2 dvd drives into PIO mode regardless of what i try.
I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling my IDE channels and disk drives through device manager, and that switches the drives to DMA mode but its pointless because as soon as i pu a disk into either drive, that drive will revert to PIO mode.
I have both drives set to DMA if available, i have them set to DMA mode in bios. Basically i have tried everything i could think of aswell as what i have been told by people over @ anandtech, but regardless of what i try nothing works.
I have also tried using different ide cables, my older disk drives etc etc.
My disk drives arent bad because i have hooked them up to my older computer and they are recognized properly and put into DMA mode, they are both brand new drives aswell.
I have also used my older drives in the new Core2 system and same thing happens.
This is my last attempt at solving this problem before i return this board.
Thanks.
Artmic
08-28-2006, 09:55 PM
where are you guys getting your P5W bios updates? the one on the Asus site has the 801 there, and that is all.
http://wiki.p5wdh.de/doku.php?id=downloads:bios
MacClipper
08-28-2006, 10:39 PM
kpamir, your problems do sound unusual since you say the burners cannot be set to UDMA. Maybe go thru' this checklist and see if it helps,
1. Intel chipset drivers installed?
2. JMicron drivers installed? Needed for proper UDMA & S3 support.
3. deselect ALPE/ASP in BIOS?
heikis
08-28-2006, 11:57 PM
ive got a problem with the P5W DH DELUXE when using a PCI-E videocard.
when i use an old PCI videocard (ATI rage pro 8mb) then i have no problems overclocking my motherboard with 450FSB and 1.65vMCH. then it boots fine (cold boot ocourse) and no problems when restarting it.
BUT when i use x1900xt or x800GT with 1,5V MCH and 400FSB then after the restart it does the cold boot, but after the cold boot it powers on for like 2 seconds and then it shuts down. and if i power on the PC then it boots at default clocks and with an error message "overclocking or overvoltage failed".
im using fortron bluestorm 500W and tried the chieftec 400W (with chieftec the problem seemed to have gone away for sometime, but reappeared again). my friend who used almost the same setup as i did (same mem, same motherboard, conroe not allendale, seasonic 430W) has no problems. could it really be my PSU, should i buy the seasonic?
anybody has had this problem?
AnjinSan1966
08-29-2006, 01:31 AM
anybody has had this problem?
I have had it happen a few times with sys in sign.
jkresh
08-29-2006, 03:21 AM
turned out my problems related to a couple of bad sata cables. Now running dual prime at 3.4 (1.5v actual) with maximum load temp at 37C (full load with folding at home is under 30). I wonder how high I will be able to go at 1.5 and if 1.6 or a little higher will be safe (stability is realy important, but temps should be fine!)
Catalyst2211
08-29-2006, 04:22 AM
Is there any difference between the DH version and the non-DH version overclocking-wise? I only need 1 PCI-E 16x slot
imperiallord
08-29-2006, 07:44 AM
I'm not sure if I should push my cpu volt higher, currently its set at 1.45v but it shows only 1.4v in these progs. Aibooster is giving me irregular readings, it shows my cpu underclock, even though I disable a majority of features in bios. I follow the guide that was posted. My cpu at stock speed has a core temp of 29/24 C, I am using Thermaright SI-128 but I have my case flat on the ground sideways with the motherboard facing down. I want to push it farther but I'm not sure what celisus temp is safe with just aircooling??
Memory Voltage: 2.1
CPU Core Voltage: 1.45
FSB Termination Voltage: auto
MCH Chipset Voltage: auto
ICH Chipset Voltage: auto
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/515/e6600ri1.png (http://imageshack.us)
Artmic
08-29-2006, 07:55 AM
http://wiki.p5wdh.de/doku.php?id=downloads:bios
Thanks for the link, but are you sure those bios updates are stable? Is that site even remotely connected with ASUS? Why do they have all those Bios versions and the official Asus site has almost nothing there.
New Bios .. 1305 http://p5wdh.de/downloads/asus/bios/p5wdh1305.zip
AnjinSan1966
08-29-2006, 08:24 AM
New Bios .. 1305 http://p5wdh.de/downloads/asus/bios/p5wdh1305.zip
Any changelog or? So what Bios versions are you people running most?
Quick question: how do I change my FBS in the BIOS? I can't seem to be able to change it in jumper free settings.
Ibinco
08-29-2006, 08:48 AM
Runnin 1305 as we speak...still no booting past 370FSB without SPD timings on auto. Furthermore noticed some cosmetic changes...thats all.
phile
08-29-2006, 09:28 AM
Quick question: how do I change my FBS in the BIOS? I can't seem to be able to change it in jumper free settings.
Set Jumperfree to manual then use the + - keys on your keypad to increase or decrease the FSB. You can also type the desired value using the number keys. Keep an eye on the memory speed, as it will be automatically adjusted along wih the FSB. However, you adjust the mem speed without it affecting the FSB setting.
-phil
phile
08-29-2006, 09:30 AM
Any changelog or? So what Bios versions are you people running most?
Been using 1301 since the day it was released. Have had no issues. I did try 1201 :nono: , which surfaced after 1301, only to have get a blue screen the second I tried monitoring core temps. Odd. Went back to 1301 and have not had that BSoD again. Anomaly? Perhaps.
Will flash to 1305 tonght. I'm a hopeless early-adopter. :slapass:
-phil
famich
08-29-2006, 10:41 AM
Runnin 1305 as we speak...still no booting past 370FSB without SPD timings on auto. Furthermore noticed some cosmetic changes...thats all.
It strange , I was able to boot 410*9 using manual mem timings
5.5.5.15 but changed teh perform. mode from TURBO to STANDARD.
V Core 1.525V Anyone ?;)
The Nemesis
08-29-2006, 11:17 AM
Just ordered another 6600 from the egg. Gotta love their free ground that gets to me in two days. Hoping to get a better batch# because mine requires 1.5vcore set in bios to do a measely 3.2ghz 12hours orthos stable. I want 3.6ghz I'd settle for 3.4ghz, but I don't want to have to put 1.5vcore on the cpu for either. I determined that the cpu was holding me back because the MSI board faired no better. It did however have less vdroop. Gonna give it a couple of more weeks and order another p5w dh too. Unless someone can point me to someplace thats selling the board with the new 1.85v chipset available. I think asus will make a bios for this board that's as good as the p5 model. Sli is a must for me & I don't think the P5 model can do sli witht he modified drivers. Come on ASUS get that stable overclocking bios out!:D
phile
08-29-2006, 11:43 AM
Someone has money to burn. :clap:
-phil
Set Jumperfree to manual then use the + - keys on your keypad to increase or decrease the FSB. You can also type the desired value using the number keys. Keep an eye on the memory speed, as it will be automatically adjusted along wih the FSB. However, you adjust the mem speed without it affecting the FSB setting.
-phil
Thanks.
Brahmzy
08-29-2006, 01:27 PM
Just ordered another 6600 from the egg. Gotta love their free ground that gets to me in two days. Hoping to get a better batch# because mine requires 1.5vcore set in bios to do a measely 3.2ghz 12hours orthos stable. I want 3.6ghz I'd settle for 3.4ghz, but I don't want to have to put 1.5vcore on the cpu for either. I determined that the cpu was holding me back because the MSI board faired no better. It did however have less vdroop. Gonna give it a couple of more weeks and order another p5w dh too. Unless someone can point me to someplace thats selling the board with the new 1.85v chipset available. I think asus will make a bios for this board that's as good as the p5 model. Sli is a must for me & I don't think the P5 model can do sli witht he modified drivers. Come on ASUS get that stable overclocking bios out!:D
I am so tempted to do the same. I ordered up a P5B Deluxe...shoulda just grabbed another E6600. You can always feeBay them if they suck arse.
Brahmzy
08-29-2006, 01:28 PM
Anybody else try 1305?
lawrywild
08-29-2006, 02:02 PM
Ya, no better for me..
DarthVader
08-29-2006, 04:30 PM
Being a cautious n00b to the world of overclocking I have a quesition. In my system I have the following components (that are relevant to this matter):
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 (currently with the FSB set to 333mhz to get a 3ghz stable speed)
Asus P5W DH Deluxe (with the BIOS at 1305)
2GB (2x1GB) PC6400 (DDR2-800) 4-4-4-12 Corsair XMS2 C4 memory (currently running at DDR2-833 speeds with timings at 5-5-5-12)
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro CPU Cooler
Tagan TG480-U01 PSU
I also have a couple of akasa 80mm fans directly behind the CPU cooler running at 1800ish rpm sucking air out of the case and one on the side window of the case above the graphics card area. I would say the internals are kept reasonable cool at the moment (the cpu is currently 28c at 3ghz idle).
Given this sort of setup how high can I realistically go without shortening the product life of the components (if possible)? Ideally I would like to set my memory to 4-4-4-12 but I have not yet been able to do so without the power cutting out.
Again I realise I am a total n00b here but I have to ask this - can the product lives of products like the CPU be shortened quite drastically by this sort of overclocking? I tend to keep my components for between two and three years at a time so I'd like them to last that long at least (and much longer ideally).
[G.N.U.]Fragman
08-29-2006, 04:35 PM
it can, if you are going too far....too much voltace e.g.
DarthVader
08-29-2006, 04:38 PM
Fragman']it can, if you are going too far....too much voltace e.g.
If it was left as it is just now (i.e. 3ghz and 5-5-5-12) then may it be reasonably inferred that it should in theory last three years min without any problems?
vallik
08-29-2006, 05:59 PM
If it was left as it is just now (i.e. 3ghz and 5-5-5-12) then may it be reasonably inferred that it should in theory last three years min without any problems?
no guarantee but if your volts arnt to high then it should be fine
The Nemesis
08-29-2006, 06:03 PM
What volts are you puting on your cpu core, chipsets & ram?
DarthVader
08-29-2006, 06:13 PM
After doing some more meddling I have reduced the memory timings to 4-4-4-12 by increasing the memory voltage to 2.00V (I believe my modules can take up to 2.10V fine) and as of yet the PC has not shut down on me. As for the other voltages they have been left on auto (even though the FSB is currently at 333mhz and consequently the ddr is apparently at "DDR2-833").
The Nemesis
08-29-2006, 06:21 PM
After doing some more meddling I have reduced the memory timings to 4-4-4-12 by increasing the memory voltage to 2.00V (I believe my modules can take up to 2.10V fine) and as of yet the PC has not shut down on me. As for the other voltages they have been left on auto (even though the FSB is currently at 333mhz and consequently the ddr is apparently at "DDR2-833").
If your volts for everything except ram are on auto chances are your not overvolting or even slighty pushing the envelope. You should loop a few instances of 3DMark or run some prime benchmarks to see if you're stable @ those settings. Not many of us are getting 3ghz out of our 6600's @ stock volts. If you are then you have nothing to worry about. As for you ram, since you went with corsair you have nothing to be concerned with. They have the absolute best warranty replacement policy in the business. I've used it three times myself and have always received new sticks within a week:D
DarthVader
08-29-2006, 06:37 PM
If your volts for everything except ram are on auto chances are your not overvolting or even slighty pushing the envelope. You should loop a few instances of 3DMark or run some prime benchmarks to see if you're stable @ those settings. Not many of us are getting 3ghz out of our 6600's @ stock volts. If you are then you have nothing to worry about. As for you ram, since you went with corsair you have nothing to be concerned with. They have the absolute best warranty replacement policy in the business. I've used it three times myself and have always received new sticks within a week:D
That's very reassuring to know. :toast:
DarthVader
08-29-2006, 07:52 PM
On an entirely different matter (although concerning the Asus P5W DH Deluxe post v1301 BIOS) I have noticed something odd about the motherboard. I should point out this was happening before I even started my overclocking attempts. It was happening with v1301 and continues with v1305. If one saves changes in the BIOS and exits then the computer powers off for a moment but then restarts itself as normal. Secondly the same thing happens if I restart (obviously using the restart button) in Windows XP Pro x64. Is this normal?
I am currently using v1305 of the BIOS.
The Nemesis
08-29-2006, 07:55 PM
On an entirely different matter (although concerning the Asus P5W DH Deluxe post v1301 BIOS) I have noticed something odd about the motherboard. I should point out this was happening before I even started my overclocking attempts. It was happening with v1301 and continues with v1305. If one saves changes in the BIOS and exits then the computer powers off for a moment but then restarts itself as normal. Secondly the same thing happens if I restart (obviously using the restart button) in Windows XP Pro x64. Is this normal?
I am currently using v1305 of the BIOS.
For this board yes.
phile
08-29-2006, 08:03 PM
My E6600/P5W DH will not run stable at 333 FSB (3GHz) with anything less than 1.35 vcore. I can go as high as 320 FSB with vcore on auto. I'm not going to bother pushing any further. There isn't a justifiable return in performane for the hot temps I would get, on air. Hey, it's like I have a X6800 running at stock, for 1/3 the price! :woot:
-phil
phile
08-29-2006, 08:06 PM
On an entirely different matter (although concerning the Asus P5W DH Deluxe post v1301 BIOS) I have noticed something odd about the motherboard. I should point out this was happening before I even started my overclocking attempts. It was happening with v1301 and continues with v1305. If one saves changes in the BIOS and exits then the computer powers off for a moment but then restarts itself as normal. Secondly the same thing happens if I restart (obviously using the restart button) in Windows XP Pro x64. Is this normal?
I am currently using v1305 of the BIOS.
That's normal behavior when the systen is overclocked, but you're the first person I have seen experiencing that at stock. Maybe, it's something to do with XP64. Have you tried resetting BIOS to default setting and rebooting?
-phil
Brahmzy
08-29-2006, 08:07 PM
I'd go for 3.2GHz @ 1.45. I consider 200Mhz to be a worthy gain.
phile
08-29-2006, 08:13 PM
I'd go for 3.2GHz @ 1.45. I consider 200Mhz to be a worthy gain.
My full-load core temps already peak in the 70s at 1.35v. I don't even want to try 1.45v. :nono:
-phil
Artmic
08-29-2006, 10:33 PM
Guys, what are all these weird settings in the bios for the memory?
i have 2 Corsair CM2X1024-6400C3 sticks, and the timings for them are:
3-4-3-9 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) tRC 22T CR 2T and Write Recovery Time(tWR) 6T
when i go into the Asus p5w bios, and i try to match these values i get a damn listing of the following, (I have no clue where each value should go, you'd think they would keep the words consistant so that someone like me could just match the words and numbers together:
Cas latency ? 3
Ras precharge? 3
Ras to Cas Delay? 4
Ras Active to Precharge? 9
Write Recovery? 6
The above is what imy guess should read in my bios, but could someone confirm if the values above match the memory stick timings i have listed at the top of this post? God how things have changed, i guess i should upgrade my computer more often, used to be sooooooo damn easy. lol
MEMORY divider problem FIXED!, after flashing 1305 BIOS i can finally set up my memory in others dividers than 1:1! Before 1305 was my best setting 400FSB, CPU 3.6GHz, mem 800@8-3-3-3, NOW - 400FSB, CPU 3.6GHz, mem 1000@14-4-4-4 ! WOW the best BIOS for this MoBo i here...
vetrelec
08-29-2006, 11:41 PM
Hi guys
i have for a 14days my new ASUS P5W DH.And cannot solve problem with slow POST.I have tried all available BIOSes and without succes.Now i running on 1301.If i not overclock anything MoBo bootup quick and POST is about 3sec max.When i overclock then POST is about 30sec up to 5minutes!I tried disable Quick FAn but still same, only FANs start running on max speed.I have OC E6600 to 3,14GHZ,Core V 1,4125 rest is auto.If i change anything this not affect speed os POST.Sometimes MB says FAN CPU error press F1 to resume(ArcticFreezer).I tried everithing what is here posted but my problem is still same.On stock speeds POST is fast as hell,when i OC even to one MHZ then POST is 30sec up to 5minutes:-(Can someone help?
jkresh
08-30-2006, 12:24 AM
currently have my e6600 at 3.45 with 1.55 volts (1.52 actual), acording to asus my prime95 load is 38c, thinking of upping the voltage a little. (801 bios)
lawrywild
08-30-2006, 01:17 AM
MEMORY divider problem FIXED!, after flashing 1305 BIOS i can finally set up my memory in others dividers than 1:1! Before 1305 was my best setting 400FSB, CPU 3.6GHz, mem 800@8-3-3-3, NOW - 400FSB, CPU 3.6GHz, mem 1000@14-4-4-4 ! WOW the best BIOS for this MoBo i here...
edit: Oops dividers not spd.. :slap:
phile
08-30-2006, 03:46 AM
Guys, what are all these weird settings in the bios for the memory?
i have 2 Corsair CM2X1024-6400C3 sticks, and the timings for them are:
3-4-3-9 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) tRC 22T CR 2T and Write Recovery Time(tWR) 6T
when i go into the Asus p5w bios, and i try to match these values i get a damn listing of the following, (I have no clue where each value should go, you'd think they would keep the words consistant so that someone like me could just match the words and numbers together:
Cas latency ? 3
Ras precharge? 3
Ras to Cas Delay? 4
Ras Active to Precharge? 9
Write Recovery? 6
The above is what imy guess should read in my bios, but could someone confirm if the values above match the memory stick timings i have listed at the top of this post? God how things have changed, i guess i should upgrade my computer more often, used to be sooooooo damn easy. lol
Looks to me like you have correctly configured your mem timings in the BIOS. A pox on the house of ASUS for not listing the individual timings in the standard order. :slapass:
-phil
edit: Oops dividers not spd.. :slap:
I am not talking about SPD or timings man. Read carefully, with old BIOS i can not to reach anything above 950MHz at any voltages and timing. With FSB 400 i had only one option MEM:FSB - 1:1, other dividers -freeze. NOW i can set anzthing and it is working ..., for me is the biggest problem of this MoBo solved ...
Ibinco
08-30-2006, 05:11 AM
I am not talking about SPD or timings man. Read carefully, with old BIOS i can not to reach anything above 950MHz at any voltages and timing. With FSB 400 i had only one option MEM:FSB - 1:1, other dividers -freeze. NOW i can set anzthing and it is working ..., for me is the biggest problem of this MoBo solved ...
Strange...this bios dindnt solve those issues for me. Can u post your full specs on how u achieved this?
DarthVader
08-30-2006, 05:53 AM
That's normal behavior when the systen is overclocked, but you're the first person I have seen experiencing that at stock. Maybe, it's something to do with XP64. Have you tried resetting BIOS to default setting and rebooting?
-phil
Na I doubt it is x64 that is causing it because it does it when leaving the BIOS too. However, it did start doing this before I began overclocking when I flashed it to 1301. Although in saying that I obviously had the memory set to DDR2-800 and 4-4-4-12 at that point anyway.
I presume this switching off won't cause any damage?
EDIT - I did get this response in another forum though (apparently from the Asus techies):
This behaviour is caused by system's limitation. For over-clocking, the
internal PLL of NB would not lock on the high clock right away, so that means
system could not hold on the clock frequency immediately after reset. That's
why we add a auto-power down scheme to fix this issue. Of course, this
behaviour only occurs at over-clocking scenario.
Artmic
08-30-2006, 06:09 AM
Looks to me like you have correctly configured your mem timings in the BIOS. A pox on the house of ASUS for not listing the individual timings in the standard order. :slapass:
-phil
Actually i think i did this:
Cas latency 3
Ras precharge 9
Ras to Cas Delay 4
Ras Active to Precharge 3
Write Recovery 6
The asus bios is not in the 3-4-3-9 format i think. i don't think the Ras Active to Precharge should be set to 9 that is too much, so the only option was that i had to switch the two precharge values.
heikis
08-30-2006, 06:13 AM
I dont understand why my system is acting so weird. (p5w-dh-del, e6400)
when using PCI videocard + 400FSB + 1,65V MCH then everything is ok.
when using PCI-E videocard + 400FSB + 1,5V MCH then randomly after the
restart it powers off, then powers on for 2 seconds and powers off again. then by powering it on manually it boots with stock settings loaded and reports "overclocking or overvoltage failed". the problem occurs only when using a PCI-E videocard. ive tried different memories, different PSU-s, different videocards, different BIOS setting, different BIOS-s. im 100% sure these are fine. that leaves me motherboard or CPU. as everything is ok with a PCI videocard then i suggest its the fault of the motherboard. anybody has a solution or advice`?
Hyperformance
08-30-2006, 06:18 AM
I dont understand why my system is acting so weird. (p5w-dh-del, e6400)
when using PCI videocard + 400FSB + 1,65V MCH then everything is ok.
when using PCI-E videocard + 400FSB + 1,5V MCH then randomly after the
restart it powers off, then powers on for 2 seconds and powers off again. then by powering it on manually it boots with stock settings loaded and reports "overclocking or overvoltage failed". the problem occurs only when using a PCI-E videocard. ive tried different memories, different PSU-s, different videocards, different BIOS setting, different BIOS-s. im 100% sure these are fine. that leaves me motherboard or CPU. as everything is ok with a PCI videocard then i suggest its the fault of the motherboard. anybody has a solution or advice`?
have you tried booting in with 1.65 mch with the pci-e card in? maybe im reading your post wrong but id think thats where Id start. @ 400fsb your probably going to need more than 1.5
DarthVader
08-30-2006, 06:34 AM
Well it definitely is not doing the power down thing at stock settings - this could become a nuisance.
Incidentally I found that the motherboard temp appeared to go up when I reverted back to stock, which is slightly odd. Maybe it is just the progression of the day that has caused the temp to go up slightly instead.
DltdApS
08-30-2006, 07:09 AM
it's possible the p5wdh is really better with an E6600 than the p5bdeluxe ?
Mavke
08-30-2006, 07:36 AM
- Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 @ 3.1GHz on Big Typhoon
- Asus P5W-DH DeLuxe - BIOS 1101
- 2GB Corsair 6400C3 + 2GB 8500C5
Just wondering as I have a quite similar setup how you gotten 3.1GHz out of the E6300. I have the following stuff:
- Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 @ 2.8GHz
- Asus P5W-DH DeLuxe - BIOS 1101 / 1201
- 2GB Crucial PC2-8000
Could you details me which settings you used to get to 3.1GHz? As I can even get to 2.9GHz. Thanks... ;)
BulldogPO
08-30-2006, 08:32 AM
Well, my P5W DH´s LAN keeps disconnectin with those new drivers also but not as badly than with original drivers from mobos CD.
when uTorrent DL´s over 250kB/s network just freezes.
I have tried both ports, same thing.
Now everything works well cos I disabled Marvel Yukon and installed really old 3Com 10/100 Fast Etherlin XL PCI card.
Should I try some really old drivers for Yukon?
Anyone else having those LAN problems?
DarthVader
08-30-2006, 09:35 AM
Anyone else having those LAN problems?
Can't say that I am.
walste
08-30-2006, 10:11 AM
MEMORY divider problem FIXED!, after flashing 1305 BIOS i can finally set up my memory in others dividers than 1:1! Before 1305 was my best setting 400FSB, CPU 3.6GHz, mem 800@8-3-3-3, NOW - 400FSB, CPU 3.6GHz, mem 1000@14-4-4-4 ! WOW the best BIOS for this MoBo i here...
Where do u find all this bios???
when i search asus homepage i only find one bios
The Nemesis
08-30-2006, 10:42 AM
Where do u find all this bios???
when i search asus homepage i only find one bios
Uh try post #652 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=110193&page=27)of this thread:fact: or direct link (http://p5wdh.de/downloads/asus/bios/p5wdh1305.zip)from that thread:D
cmthomson
08-30-2006, 12:32 PM
MEMORY divider problem FIXED!, after flashing 1305 BIOS i can finally set up my memory in others dividers than 1:1! Before 1305 was my best setting 400FSB, CPU 3.6GHz, mem 800@8-3-3-3, NOW - 400FSB, CPU 3.6GHz, mem 1000@14-4-4-4 ! WOW the best BIOS for this MoBo i here...
Hey it's good to know that this BIOS provides more FSB/DRAM ratios.
But, isn't 3-3-3-8 @ 800 actually faster than 4-4-4-14 @ 1000?
3 cycles at 800 MT (400 MHz) is 7.5 ns, but 4 cycles at 1000 MT is 8 ns. :confused:
cmthomson
08-30-2006, 12:59 PM
Thanks lawrywild for putting together this list. I've been lurking for a while now, finally read to post.
First, a new problem: after the system has been up for a couple of days, Probe 2 and SpeedFan start reporting the CPU temperature as 128C. This goes away after a while. In this state, Probe alternates between 128 and 256, and Speedfan stays at 128. Everest reports the temperature correctly (~40).
Second, in your initial summary, the Probe 256 problem is blamed on CPU-Z. That is not my experience: it happens anytime Probe is running regardless of what else is running. Neither SpeedFan nor Everest report 256 ever.
Third, the "FSB wall" issue could use a clearer explanation. The issue is that the P5W DH normally overclocks the 975X NB by changing its strapping from 1066 to 800. This gives better benchmarks at stock speeds, but limits the FSB speed. This feature is controlled by the "Hyper Path 3" BIOS switch; disabling this forces the 1066 strap and allows much higher FSB speeds without overvolting the NB.
Fourth, people continue to be confused about the CPU and MB temperatures. Perhaps you could edit the summary to state that the CPU temperature reported by Probe 2 and SpeedFan is a thermistor on the board near the CPU, and that to see the actual (core) CPU temperature you need to run Everest or Core Temp. Also, it might help to clarify that the MB temperature is the ICH7 SB, not the 975X NB.
Nosfer@tu
08-30-2006, 01:22 PM
Thanks lawrywild for putting together this list. I've been lurking for a while now, finally read to post.
First, a new problem: after the system has been up for a couple of days, Probe 2 and SpeedFan start reporting the CPU temperature as 128C. This goes away after a while. In this state, Probe alternates between 128 and 256, and Speedfan stays at 128. Everest reports the temperature correctly (~40).
Second, in your initial summary, the Probe 256 problem is blamed on CPU-Z. That is not my experience: it happens anytime Probe is running regardless of what else is running. Neither SpeedFan nor Everest report 256 ever.
Third, the "FSB wall" issue could use a clearer explanation. The issue is that the P5W DH normally overclocks the 975X NB by changing its strapping from 1066 to 800. This gives better benchmarks at stock speeds, but limits the FSB speed. This feature is controlled by the "Hyper Path 3" BIOS switch; disabling this forces the 1066 strap and allows much higher FSB speeds without overvolting the NB.
Fourth, people continue to be confused about the CPU and MB temperatures. Perhaps you could edit the summary to state that the CPU temperature reported by Probe 2 and SpeedFan is a thermistor on the board near the CPU, and that to see the actual (core) CPU temperature you need to run Everest or Core Temp. Also, it might help to clarify that the MB temperature is the ICH7 SB, not the 975X NB.
Couldent agree with you more :)
lawrywild
08-30-2006, 01:30 PM
Thanks lawrywild for putting together this list. I've been lurking for a while now, finally read to post.
First, a new problem: after the system has been up for a couple of days, Probe 2 and SpeedFan start reporting the CPU temperature as 128C. This goes away after a while. In this state, Probe alternates between 128 and 256, and Speedfan stays at 128. Everest reports the temperature correctly (~40).
Second, in your initial summary, the Probe 256 problem is blamed on CPU-Z. That is not my experience: it happens anytime Probe is running regardless of what else is running. Neither SpeedFan nor Everest report 256 ever.
Third, the "FSB wall" issue could use a clearer explanation. The issue is that the P5W DH normally overclocks the 975X NB by changing its strapping from 1066 to 800. This gives better benchmarks at stock speeds, but limits the FSB speed. This feature is controlled by the "Hyper Path 3" BIOS switch; disabling this forces the 1066 strap and allows much higher FSB speeds without overvolting the NB.
Fourth, people continue to be confused about the CPU and MB temperatures. Perhaps you could edit the summary to state that the CPU temperature reported by Probe 2 and SpeedFan is a thermistor on the board near the CPU, and that to see the actual (core) CPU temperature you need to run Everest or Core Temp. Also, it might help to clarify that the MB temperature is the ICH7 SB, not the 975X NB.
No problem, refresh my first post in about 10 minutes.
Plaicd
08-30-2006, 08:35 PM
I am not talking about SPD or timings man. Read carefully, with old BIOS i can not to reach anything above 950MHz at any voltages and timing. With FSB 400 i had only one option MEM:FSB - 1:1, other dividers -freeze. NOW i can set anzthing and it is working ..., for me is the biggest problem of this MoBo solved ...
What voltage are you using on the memory and mch?
elmadre
08-31-2006, 06:11 AM
i'm suffering an issue, where after it posts the asus bios. it freezes and wont load windows xp.
- i just had updated bios to 1301 and oc to 400mhz and 1.45vcore then it crashed and on reboot it just would freeze upon the load of windows....is this the problem of which changing the ide header or placing the usb mem stick will fix it?
madre'
lawrywild
08-31-2006, 06:34 AM
i'm suffering an issue, where after it posts the asus bios. it freezes and wont load windows xp.
- i just had updated bios to 1301 and oc to 400mhz and 1.45vcore then it crashed and on reboot it just would freeze upon the load of windows....is this the problem of which changing the ide header or placing the usb mem stick will fix it?
madre'
lol I think that's called an unstable cpu
Ati007
08-31-2006, 09:31 AM
Hy Guys
I'm newbe here and this is my first post. I'm not so happy , I bought A-data vitesta PC6400 CL4 ram (2*1gig) wich supose to go on 800mhz with 4-4-4-12 but in this mobo can't run only 5-5-5-15.
The sticker says on the memo 800mhz 4-4-4-12 timings.
I refreshd the bios to 1305 and if I go into the bios and try to set the timings manually it unable to boot.
So help me what can be the problem?
Hy Guys
I'm newbe here and this is my first post. I'm not so happy , I bought A-data vitesta PC6400 CL4 ram (2*1gig) wich supose to go on 800mhz with 4-4-4-12 but in this mobo can't run only 5-5-5-15.
The sticker says on the memo 800mhz 4-4-4-12 timings.
I refreshd the bios to 1305 and if I go into the bios and try to set the timings manually it unable to boot.
So help me what can be the problem?
Do yours say Extreme Edition on them?
http://www.hpm-computer.de/images/ard08gr.jpg
If not, I think they will be CL5
http://www.adata.com.tw/adata_en/product_detail.php?ProductNo=69
Ati007
08-31-2006, 10:07 AM
yes
Are you OC'ing? Whats your FSB set at? What speed/divider are you trying to run them at?
Ati007
08-31-2006, 10:18 AM
I tried al the ways, with OC my cpu to 400fsb if I set the memo to 4-4-4-12 unable to boot but if I set 5-5-5-12 can boot and run OK.(divider 1:1)
I tried without OC so the fsb 266 4:5 div. and I got the same.
http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu/060831/adata1_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg
What does it say the max volts shoud be, 2.2V? Did you try that? Otherwise, I don't know.
Ati007
08-31-2006, 10:30 AM
yes I tried that also.
lawrywild
08-31-2006, 10:47 AM
try 4-4-4-12-2
heikis
08-31-2006, 10:48 AM
yes I tried that also.
have you tried setting the timings in windows by memset? could help
Ati007
08-31-2006, 10:50 AM
yes I tried but when I set 4 than windows crash
lawrywild
08-31-2006, 10:54 AM
You can't change CAS latency on the fly.
heikis
08-31-2006, 10:54 AM
must be the incompatibility with the memory and the motherboard
elmadre
08-31-2006, 03:27 PM
lawry, it still does it once i reset the bios to default setting-266/2.4ghz
i am gettting very nervous ! have i fried my $500au chip?
madre
lawrywild
08-31-2006, 03:29 PM
try setting spd timings, disabling hyperpath 3 and flashing to 1305 bios.
Also clear cmos.
elmadre
08-31-2006, 04:49 PM
all done sucessfully expect for flashing the bios- i'm getting an error loading the 1305 bios (in ezy flash ), so i will try downloading the bios 1305 with all my security setting turned off.
doing these bios downloads on my good old amd3200+754sock' damn i need another monitor
see how we go this time!
madre
Plaicd
08-31-2006, 05:43 PM
all done sucessfully expect for flashing the bios- i'm getting an error loading the 1305 bios (in ezy flash ), so i will try downloading the bios 1305 with all my security setting turned off.
doing these bios downloads on my good old amd3200+754sock' damn i need another monitor
see how we go this time!
madre
Never tried easy flash so no idea how it works. I do know you need to to rename the bios to something shorter than the default name to flash with a dos disk.
Khaotic
08-31-2006, 07:23 PM
I just ran into this with my Asus P5W DH Deluxe --
If I try and reboot with my cellular phone plugged into the USB plug, the system will HANG at the BIOS Logo/Image and not go any further. of particular note: My phone is a Cingular 8125 (HTC Wizard) but before i can use my phone's features on the PC, i have to be connected to active sync. So, technially, the PC should/not does consider my phone a storage device. Even on other PC's without active sync installed. The closest thing it will come to is a USB MODEM before installing any drivers.........
all done sucessfully expect for flashing the bios- i'm getting an error loading the 1305 bios (in ezy flash ), so i will try downloading the bios 1305 with all my security setting turned off.
doing these bios downloads on my good old amd3200+754sock' damn i need another monitor
see how we go this time!
madre
***NOT A THREADJACK*** But, I have monitors I will sell you!!!!!!!!!!!! I have two CRT's (Viewsonic: P95f+b 19" and Samsung 1100df 20") and want to get rid of them BOTH to get one 24" LCD.
jkresh
08-31-2006, 11:17 PM
I am getting something strange when overclocking, I can run dual prime at 3.5 at current voltage (1.58 for processor everything else at stock, temps stay at 40 under dual prime load), but if I go much past 3530 or so I dont get an error with prime the system just reboots, is it a processor thing or do I need more fsb/mch voltage...?
Ati007
09-01-2006, 02:54 AM
So I decided to sell A-data ram and I gonna buy something else.
Guys which 2*1 gig dual channel kit is the best for this mobo?
lawrywild
09-01-2006, 05:35 AM
I am getting something strange when overclocking, I can run dual prime at 3.5 at current voltage (1.58 for processor everything else at stock, temps stay at 40 under dual prime load), but if I go much past 3530 or so I dont get an error with prime the system just reboots, is it a processor thing or do I need more fsb/mch voltage...?
ya sounds like mine..
eva2000
09-01-2006, 05:48 AM
I am getting something strange when overclocking, I can run dual prime at 3.5 at current voltage (1.58 for processor everything else at stock, temps stay at 40 under dual prime load), but if I go much past 3530 or so I dont get an error with prime the system just reboots, is it a processor thing or do I need more fsb/mch voltage...?
had that happen with my E6700 B1 on P5W DH .. i was at 3850mhz at 1.475v dual stresspriming for around 30 mins then it rebooted itself, then i tried 1.500v in bios, went for 47mins and rebooted itself, tried 1.525v and when for a bit longer....
higher mch volts does allow more stability in stressprime though so could be lack of mch volts and or vcore and temps ?
3800mhz at 1.44v under load was fine though... it could be temp related as my E6700 does get 6-8C hotter than my E6600s and my E6600 B1s never had a reboot in stressprime only failure or pass.
elmadre
09-01-2006, 06:05 AM
the problem i had with the bios was the anti-virus and firewall, i downloaded the 1305 with them turned off then copied them to floppy and had no drama that time flashing it with the ezy flash in the bios menu setup.
then i had still had the issue- so i tried reloading windows and repaired the os file, it had all my files still in there. next time i oc' i will go easy and not try to get 3.6ghz on the thing straight up, i think it was my mother board temp or the ram which caused the crash, because my cpu temps where good at around 23*c at idle- i'm using the sonic tower with the stock hs fan cut up and jammed inbetween the two banks of heat pipes(i've done a cute job of this i pared the plastic with side cutters and a razor blade left 3 appendidges that two slot into the fins and one stops it from sliding thru and it is pretty firm to locate it-awesome like it was meant to be!).
i did this because the 120mm fan that it's meant to use roars harder then a mig 29 engine over u.s airspace(trying to beat that 'cold as a witches tit' cliche' lol).
so these things arent as simple as a amd gigabyte overclock set up with the auto-restore, but they dam over clock alot more i now will leave it a 3.2gig for awhile).
thanks lawry for your advise as it was getting me depressed! your quick responses activated me into a resolve.
madre'
cmthomson
09-01-2006, 06:54 AM
had that happen with my E6700 B1 on P5W DH .. i was at 3850mhz at 1.475v dual stresspriming for around 30 mins then it rebooted itself, then i tried 1.500v in bios, went for 47mins and rebooted itself, tried 1.525v and when for a bit longer....
higher mch volts does allow more stability in stressprime though so could be lack of mch volts and or vcore and temps ?
3800mhz at 1.44v under load was fine though... it could be temp related as my E6700 does get 6-8C hotter than my E6600s and my E6600 B1s never had a reboot in stressprime only failure or pass.
These sudden reboots during Prime or CPUBurn load are classic vCore droop symptoms. Even though the P5W DH has a very good VRM, the vCore still bounces around as the CPU suddenly changes its current draw when programs enter/exit various loops. Usually higher vCore makes this go away, but there is a limit for each chip, and it sounds to me like you've found yours...
Temperature isn't really a factor until the core temperature gets up into the 70s. But as you increase vCore, you're increasing power consumption as the square of the voltage, so it goes up pretty fast.
The Nemesis
09-01-2006, 07:31 AM
Is asus pc probe still spiking temps up to 256'c setting off the alarm in the new 1305 bios?
ante_ante
09-01-2006, 07:35 AM
Is asus pc probe still spiking temps up to 256'c setting off the alarm in the new 1305 bios?
Yes for me it does :(
Leeee
09-01-2006, 07:42 AM
what are people getting with the b2's?
Ati007
09-01-2006, 10:04 AM
I got only 3.6 1.55v
cmthomson
09-01-2006, 10:05 AM
what are people getting with the b2's?
Look here: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1075792&page=1&pp=20
I just got an E6600 and a P5W DH Deluxe. Using a 2gig OCZ PC6400 kit.
Xfi, the basic edition and an X1900XT.
My settings are stock, but I am getting random reboots. Windows installed and updated fine but about every 30 mins or so my comp will just reboot, as if I hit the reset switch. Its, obviously, driving me bat :banana::banana::banana::banana: crazy. Temps seem fine, the power supply is a brand new PC Power and Cooling Silent 750.
Any ideas?
TIA
olaf
jkresh
09-01-2006, 06:38 PM
Olaf, try checking the front panel connectors (specifically power and reset) as you might have a bad button, also try changing the ram settings (set it at 1:1 and see how that runs for a while) some people have been having issues with OCZ's pc6400.
dragonhunter
09-01-2006, 07:25 PM
Do you guys have USB devices connected to this board disappear?
phile
09-01-2006, 07:41 PM
Do you guys have USB devices connected to this board disappear?
If my usb devices were disappearing, this is not the forum I'd be posting to. :ROTF:
-phil
Seriously, are you referring to usb storage devices, or human interface devices like a mouse or keyboard?
dragonhunter
09-01-2006, 08:09 PM
My wireless network using USB interface. I have use 2 different ones
chron
09-01-2006, 11:27 PM
P5w DH Deluxe and e6400 @ 3.2GHz (400x8) 1.4V
I'm wondering a few things... First: I can't seem to OC past 3.25, could this be a cheap memory thing?
And, What on EARTH is Hyper Path 3 and does it make any difference AND is there a way to leave it on when you push FSB past 300?
syne_24
09-01-2006, 11:52 PM
Wow interesting testing today. I decided to raise the vcore to 1.625 and it actually ran SP 1M @ 424 x 9! It seems that all it needed was more power. Although this is not for 24/7 use but I was happy to break that 420 wall.
KaXXeN
09-02-2006, 01:02 AM
i was wondering how do you lower your multiplier on the p5w-dh-d? or can i only use the 9x multiplier?
sorry for the noob question. tried searching but i couldnt find a good answer help pls
wampir
09-02-2006, 01:16 AM
Does any1 could show me a screen of right settings of pll setup window in clockgen ??
davexl
09-02-2006, 01:58 AM
P5w DH Deluxe and e6400 @ 3.2GHz (400x8) 1.4V
I'm wondering a few things... First: I can't seem to OC past 3.25, could this be a cheap memory thing?
And, What on EARTH is Hyper Path 3 and does it make any difference AND is there a way to leave it on when you push FSB past 300?
Set vmch to 1.65v, and drop your memory to lowest speed divider, and if 3.25 is still your limit then it is likely the limit of the motherboard - I have a wall of FSB around 425.
Forget Hyperpath 3 - too tired to regurgitate what I heard in detail, but it is a overclock for use at stock speeds, but will hold you back if you do OC.
technut36
09-02-2006, 02:20 AM
I am about to purchase this motherboard, and I would greatly appreciate if I can get some advice on what problems to expect with this board. Following is a list of my parts I will be using. The only thing which I already bought is the Video Card, besides that if you think of better parts then what I chose please let me know.
E6600
CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820145038
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820145034
Scythe Ninja Plus
http://www.newegg.com/Product/CustRatingReview.asp?Item=N82E16835185001
eVGA 7950GX2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130023
Thanx in advance
Mykou
09-02-2006, 02:53 AM
I am about to purchase this motherboard, and I would greatly appreciate if I can get some advice on what problems to expect with this board. Following is a list of my parts I will be using. The only thing which I already bought is the Video Card, besides that if you think of better parts then what I chose please let me know.
Thanx in advance
Is this thread not enough to guide you ...:confused: :confused:
lawrywild
09-02-2006, 03:26 AM
I am about to purchase this motherboard, and I would greatly appreciate if I can get some advice on what problems to expect with this board. Following is a list of my parts I will be using. The only thing which I already bought is the Video Card, besides that if you think of better parts then what I chose please let me know.
loooooooooooooooooooooool :slap:
alpha0ne
09-02-2006, 07:02 AM
My wireless network using USB interface. I have use 2 different ones
My USB k/board disapears sometimes at very high OC's, try raising Vich (SB) to 1.20v, it helps me :)
PsyBorg
09-02-2006, 10:30 AM
Just a quick q....I find that my C1E is locked to Auto, and Virtualization Tech is completely disabled?? [1101] I'm just flashing my BIOS to 1305 now, so jw.
famich
09-02-2006, 10:48 AM
what are people getting with the b2's?
3.6@1,48V Core 3.7@5.25VCore so far ..:)
technut36
09-02-2006, 07:15 PM
Is this thread not enough to guide you ...:confused: :confused:
haah, its more then enough man, i have lurked around for a long time already but i am just being really paranoid and wanted one of you experts to look at my list and tell me if its ok.
I absolutely did not mean to be offensive, I know that some of you guys know a lot more then me and have more experience with this board thus if a part in my list is incompatibale i could recieve a suggestion for a better part.
topboy
09-03-2006, 01:52 AM
haah, its more then enough man, i have lurked around for a long time already but i am just being really paranoid and wanted one of you experts to look at my list and tell me if its ok.
I absolutely did not mean to be offensive, I know that some of you guys know a lot more then me and have more experience with this board thus if a part in my list is incompatibale i could recieve a suggestion for a better part.
Stay clear of this board and wait for a good Nvidia 590 SLI board.
I would go the DFI route or ABIT if i were you.
Asus seem to be lacking on with thier boards lately. I think its because they are more concerned about getting products out fast than getting good products out.
shogo_ca
09-03-2006, 02:52 AM
got the same problem as you with same board and same cpu, cannot go over 400fsb stable with 1.4vcore
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