ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

[Random Murderer]

what power supply are you using? you may be right in thinking you were stable before you overclocked your video card.

[romfi]

i have this issue too, evident.

I wish they'd put EIST back in. I liked having it on.

The funny part is that EIST is there, it disappears only if you use 45 nm CPU. I put my old QX6700 back and EIST works as usual.

[JustusIV]

what power supply are you using? you may be right in thinking you were stable before you overclocked your video card.

I am using Antec Truepower trio 650w. I would really like it stable at 3.6, i think i have more testing to do :(
*edit*
But since i got some crashing in orthos doesnt that mean its not the video card?
It was fine in orthos before added the pci card 2ide hd's and 1 sata hd

[P5WDHdeluxe]

On our board... in order to increase the Mhz of the memory Ram... the only factor is the Vdimm?
Of course i am not talking about a tight FSB:RAM ratio...
I have the following ram:
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/configurator_new/partsinfo.asp?ktcpartno=KHX6400D2/1G&promo=hx2shp
Even with a 2.25 volt on them and 3:4 ratio, i can't get them over 870 MHz...
:(
Any suggestions? (or my dimm sucks?)

[t_ski]

I am using Antec Truepower trio 650w. I would really like it stable at 3.6, i think i have more testing to do :(
*edit*
But since i got some crashing in orthos doesnt that mean its not the video card?
It was fine in orthos before added the pci card 2ide hd's and 1 sata hd

I believe what he's saying is that you may not have enough power. I know in the past I had an Opteron 148 that could do 3.1GHz+, but after a while of video card upgrades I found the CPU would barely do 2.9GHz. Turns out I was over-loading the PSU, and in turn starving the CPU.

An easy way to check would be to put a basic video card in and try to OC it. If the basic vid card (which draws less power) allows your OC to be more stable, then your PSU may need to be upgraded.

[P5WDHdeluxe]

I am using Antec Truepower trio 650w. I would really like it stable at 3.6, i think i have more testing to do :(
*edit*
But since i got some crashing in orthos doesnt that mean its not the video card?
It was fine in orthos before added the pci card 2ide hd's and 1 sata hd
http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp
check this one

[Donseba]

hello, what is the function of "dram write recovery time" in the bios ?

[bichi]

New Bios:
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/P5WDH2602.zip

Thanks for the tip!

BIOS 2602 installed
- P5WDH, 1.02g; Q6700 G0 @ 3.0g; FSB: 300
- running normally for past 48 hours
- BIOS EzFlash/Thumbdrive method.
- quick 15min OCCT test successful.

Testing Corsair TWIN2X4096-6400C5G (2gB x 2 for 4gB)
- 5-5-5-18 @ PC-7100 (450mhz; 2:3); 2.05vdc
- cheap, $74.00 USD after $40.00 Mail-In Rebate, NewEgg

[AliZel]

I Have a big problem. I've received today the E8400,. After installing the computer is not booting up, there is also no sound of error from the bios. I've tried to put back the old cpu, but the same problem...Did i do something wrong? I did not broke anithing on the mobo, aparently. The bios is 2602 version.

[Random Murderer]

I Have a big problem. I've received today the E8400,. After installing the computer is not booting up, there is also no sound of error from the bios. I've tried to put back the old cpu, but the same problem...Did i do something wrong? I did not broke anithing on the mobo, aparently. The bios is 2602 version.

did you make sure to clear cmos after installing the new cpu?

[AliZel]

From the bios? Or from the jumper?

[Random Murderer]

From the bios? Or from the jumper?

jumper.

[w2richwood]

yes and make sure its unpluged from the wall and remove the battery for ten min..s or so and good luck
Rich

[riiaku]

I have my Q6400 OCed to 3.2 ghrtz, at a 1:1 ratio using OCZ DDR2800 2 gigs platinum revision 2 RAM. I want to throw in another 2 gigs of the same ram, would that impede my OC or affect it in any way? would i have to reduce my overclock?

[nessi]

Anyone tried some clocking E8400\8500 with this mobo yet? Speculating about buying one E8400, and i am waiting for x48 asus mobos.

[Korgan]

Anyone tried some clocking E8400\8500 with this mobo yet? Speculating about buying one E8400, and i am waiting for x48 asus mobos.


I have tried a E8400. Works fine with latest beta bios. With 1,65v to Northbridge it is stable in 400x9=3,6GHz. E8400 on standard voltage 1,2v. When going higher the board gets unstable. I cannot boot above 409Mhz FSB. Over that the FSB sets to 69MHz :confused:

Sometimes it stops at bios for about 30sec before booting OS. Did not have that problem with E6600. Hopefully ASUS releases non beta BIOS with support for Wolfdale.

[scorpion73]

Do you know which are the CPUs supported by the new BIOS?
On Asus website, CPU support page, nothing can be found as for the new bios 2602.

My principal interest is to see if finally QX9650 is officially supported by this main :D :D

[Eastcoasthandle]

Can someone with a E8400 at 3.6GHz post your 1meg SuperPI score?

[Korgan]

Can someone with a E8400 at 3.6GHz post your 1meg SuperPI score?

13.016sec. I can post a screenshot later. This is with 1:1 divider @ 5-6-6-18 timings.

[Eastcoasthandle]

13.016sec. I can post a screenshot later. This is with 1:1 divider @ 5-6-6-18 timings.

Thanks

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/E8400/E8400_3600_MaxFormula_SuperPI1.jpg
Looks like the Maximus Formula offers a little bit of performance at 5-5-5-15 (3:4).

[freeza]

I have tried a E8400. Works fine with latest beta bios. With 1,65v to Northbridge it is stable in 400x9=3,6GHz. E8400 on standard voltage 1,2v. When going higher the board gets unstable. I cannot boot above 409Mhz FSB. Over that the FSB sets to 69MHz :confused:

Sometimes it stops at bios for about 30sec before booting OS. Did not have that problem with E6600. Hopefully ASUS releases non beta BIOS with support for Wolfdale.



I have the same CPUwith teh same problems, i tried ocing to 415 mhz and the fsb went all the way down and cpu was running at like 650 mhz and i had to reset the cmos lol.

So you say you use 1.65v? i just switched mine to that last night. mind posting your other voltages? I'm trying to stabilize mine too and would love to know your voltages. thanks!

[P5WDHdeluxe]

when i turn off the switch of the psu and then turn it on, the pc boots up!
why does this happen? How can i prevent this "auto-boot"?

[Eastcoasthandle]

when i turn off the switch of the psu and then turn it on, the pc boots up!
why does this happen? How can i prevent this "auto-boot"?

What's usb devices are connected to the 2 lower usb ports?

[xMrBunglex]

you can disable it in the BIOS to. it's called Power On After Failure or something like that.

[BuBBle.D]

What bios is currently most stable/adviseable? Im using a G0 e6850 with 4 sticks of ram.

[freeza]

you can disable it in the BIOS to. it's called Power On After Failure or something like that.


What bios version are you using to get that overclock?

[xMrBunglex]

What bios version are you using to get that overclock?

the latest one, whatever that is. my daily driver speed on this mobo is 400 FSB. i can do that with all the chipset volts in the pink. i had to max my chipset volts to get it to run 425 FSB, so i figured the few extra MHz weren't worth all the extra voltage. i just set it to 425 for some bench runs and put it back to 400 when i was done.

[freeza]

the latest one, whatever that is. my daily driver speed on this mobo is 400 FSB. i can do that with all the chipset volts in the pink. i had to max my chipset volts to get it to run 425 FSB, so i figured the few extra MHz weren't worth all the extra voltage. i just set it to 425 for some bench runs and put it back to 400 when i was done.


Perfect, thanks man. I just put all my chipset volts into pink last night because i couldn't run it stabilized for more than a few hours with them set to "auto"

What's your cpu voltage set at with the 400 fsb?

[Random Murderer]

What bios is currently most stable/adviseable? Im using a G0 e6850 with 4 sticks of ram.

2504 or 2602. i used 1707 for a long time, but recently starting using 2504 and i'm really happy with it.

[MacClipper]

4x2GB
try the max. vMCH you have for starters then lower from there if possible.

[freeza]

try the max. vMCH you have for starters then lower from there if possible.


vMCH to the max? you're talking about to stabilize the ram right? That won't mess anything up

i guess worst case scenario it won't boot.

[xMrBunglex]

What's your cpu voltage set at with the 400 fsb?

this BIOS has crap options for the E8400. i have to set my Vcore to Auto because the lowest manual setting is 1.45, which is a bit extreme for these new 45nm processors. running it on Auto sets it at 1.225. stable as can be.

[MacClipper]

Yes, max it but actively cool the NB and then boot into DOS to test with a few rounds of memtest86 (I use test no. 5 and then 8), don't try booting into Windows till memtest86 clears. Next reduce vMCH and retest till you get the minimum to be stable.

[freeza]

this BIOS has crap options for the E8400. i have to set my Vcore to Auto because the lowest manual setting is 1.45, which is a bit extreme for these new 45nm processors. running it on Auto sets it at 1.225. stable as can be.


that's odd lol my lowest manual is 1.225....right now i have it set to 1.250

[xMrBunglex]

that's odd lol my lowest manual is 1.225....right now i have it set to 1.250

weird. i have a brand new Bone Trail sitting right next to me, so i'm about to do some major surgery on my rig ;). no need for me to investigate why i can't manually set 1.225 on mine. i bid you all farewell. my P5W will be missed. maybe i'll build an HTPC out of it instead of selling it. it's been a really great motherboard.

[P5WDHdeluxe]

What's usb devices are connected to the 2 lower usb ports?
Remote Control...
I want to have the feature to "power on" with the remote

you can disable it in the BIOS to. it's called Power On After Failure or something like that.
i have already set it to "off" but still power on...


my pc used after a power loss... to boot up for a few secs in order to enable power on option for the remote (as the manual of the remote says)...
But now it completly starts up... and if i unplug the psu cord... the power on button from the remote doesn't work until i get into windows and shut down the pc again... any ideas?

[BuBBle.D]

2504 or 2602. i used 1707 for a long time, but recently starting using 2504 and i'm really happy with it.

Thanks! Will give 2602 a shot.

[vetrelec]

i have this issue too, evident.

I wish they'd put EIST back in. I liked having it on.

Previous time i report same problem.EIST doesnt work with E8xx CPU´s:-( wanna it too but not have any idea why disabling each time.I try send request to ASUS support but without any reaction:-(:mad:

[MacClipper]

Turns out I do have a faulty HD3870 card, waiting for a replacement so got a HD3870x2 loaner which runs OK on the P5W DH Dlx, seems to lose out very very slightly to 2 x HD3870 though.

HD3870x2 Score: 16089
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4919830

2 x HD3870 Score: 16142
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4918330

:)

[Lurker246]

Turns out I do have a faulty HD3870 card, waiting for a replacement so got a HD3870x2 loaner which runs OK on the P5W DH Dlx, seems to lose out very very slightly to 2 x HD3870 though.

HD3870x2 Score: 16089
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4919830

2 x HD3870 Score: 16142
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4918330

:)

Thanks for the info:up: - I've been wondering what the performance was like between the two.

Don't suppose anyone out there knows how crossfired 2900xt's stack up against the above?

[Eastcoasthandle]

Thanks for the info:up: - I've been wondering what the performance was like between the two.

Don't suppose anyone out there knows how crossfired 2900xt's stack up against the above?

Anyone with a E8400? If so, could you report your idle and load temps?

[Eastcoasthandle]

Turns out I do have a faulty HD3870 card, waiting for a replacement so got a HD3870x2 loaner which runs OK on the P5W DH Dlx, seems to lose out very very slightly to 2 x HD3870 though.

HD3870x2 Score: 16089
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4919830

2 x HD3870 Score: 16142
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4918330

:)

Looks like GDDR4 at work here.
X2 uses 1.0ns GDDR3 memory and clocked and usually clocked at 825MHz
3870 uses .08ns GDDR4 memory and clocked at 777MHz
See the difference now?

[xMrBunglex]

Anyone with a E8400? If so, could you report your idle and load temps?

E8400 @ 4.05 (450*9)
VCore 1.3125 in BIOS (1.27 actual according to Everest)
temp ~29° idle / 45° load

Asus Silent Square heatsink in an Antec 900 case. i use the CPU temp as my reading - i heard the Core 1 and Core 2 measurements aren't accurate.

[freeza]

damn i wish i could get the p5wdh to do 450*9

[Eastcoasthandle]

E8400 @ 4.05 (450*9)
VCore 1.3125 in BIOS (1.27 actual according to Everest)
temp ~29° idle / 45° load

Asus Silent Square heatsink in an Antec 900 case. i use the CPU temp as my reading - i heard the Core 1 and Core 2 measurements aren't accurate.

could you post a pic of your idle/load temps?
thanks

[rvltion909]

Is there any location to get ALL the BIOS revisions in one download? This would be very beneficial to basically flash through the various revisions and see which ones work the best for me.

Im about to install the latest 2602 (2nd release within a month?! :mad: )

Last week after not being able to run a stable 3G overclock (around 5.5 hrs is when I got the 1stg error in Prime 95). I then loaded defaults and ran memtest for about 30min the next day thinking it might be the memory. After coming back up to my room to check the status...the PC had shut off...not reboot...shut off.

I then tried to boot up again and it would not post at all. It would simply shut off after about 30sec. I initially though it was because I was bumping up the mem voltage from 1.9 to 1.95 so I tried to restore defaults but it would still not post.

The next day I opened the box up and tried testing the RAM. I took both sticks out. I then put one back into one of the orange slots I've always used and it booted right up. I then tried the other orange slot with the same stick (same story). I took that stick out and did the same with the next stick (same results).

Next I stuck both of them (dual channel config. like I initially had). I booted up...the post took VERY long...after almost a min on the initial splash screen...I considered it a bad post and restarted. I tried again and it posted...very slowly (not sure if this is dual channel related-it seems to be).

So anyway I set the RAM to run 800mhz @ 5-5-5-15 with 1.9V (factory "overclock" settings) ran the latest memtest version for about 3 hours and it seemed fine...about 6 tests and no errors.

I booted up this morning and got the BIOS message the "overclock failed" :confused:


This board is beginning to be a real pain in the ass. I could have got an MSI Neo series for half the price and from Im hearing nowhere NEAR the amount of trouble that this board is providing.

T_Ski: thanks for the in-depth response to my posts, man ( appreciate that )



....off to try an other BIOS

[xMrBunglex]

could you post a pic of your idle/load temps?
thanks

yeah, i put it in the 8400 thread. it's kind of off topic in this one, seeing as how i'm not using my P5W anymore.

here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2744653&postcount=853)

[P5WDHdeluxe]

Last week after not being able to run a stable 3G overclock (around 5.5 hrs is when I got the 1stg error in Prime 95). I then loaded defaults and ran memtest for about 30min the next day thinking it might be the memory. After coming back up to my room to check the status...the PC had shut off...not reboot...shut off


....off to try an other BIOS
Are you sure that is all about Bios versions?
I mean, have your ever before had a successful overclock @ 3 GHz?
Now with 2504 Bios and same settings appeared that problem?

[X7007]

Please help me over here,

yesterday i tried to flash from 2504 to 2602 just because i love always to have the newest bios ver.

so from a weird way ASus EZ doesnt want to let me get the update running, it just freezed when i tried to enter it showing me the files from the USB Flash A:\ and C:\(was the usb) i tried without the usb flash and it was still freeze, freeze means i couldnt move between the files i had in the usb files i had like 3 ROMS, and without it i couldnt do CTRL + ALT + DEL thats how it freezed.

So i said i will update from Winxp using Asus Windows Flash , turned off all Overclocking ofc and before in Asus EZ. and everything was smooth, reset and to configurate to LOAD DEFAULTS, reset, booted, so it look liked it was freezed, so i reset again and it freezed again, ( i think it wasnt freeze because as you know when you do the Defaults it activates the slow FAN Controls so it gives it more 7 sec or something, and i forgot it at the time) so i turned the computer off, and when i turn it on it didnt boot. I Was IN SHOCKED*, tried everything, pulling memory sticks i have 4x, pulling the power cable, reset CMOS, everything i could think off. so i was at thinking i leave the computer for the day , thinking about RMA and such.

*I KNEW the motherboard is not dead because everything was smooth, no error and i did everything like i always did. but i just thought about moving foward.

So after the day i thought what the hell before i am going to store i will try to turn it on, and POOF magic, it booted and works. but i saw i cant change the CPU VOLTAGE and i dont have EIST anymore, where did they go ?

please help me restore them and if someone could explain the weird syptom.

***FOUND THE FIX FOR EIST. DISABLING THE CPU RATIO MAKE EIST TO APPEAR

[rvltion909]

Are you sure that is all about Bios versions?
I mean, have your ever before had a successful overclock @ 3 GHz?
Now with 2504 Bios and same settings appeared that problem?


No, Im not sure its all BIOS related. That's just the thing...

The longest I've run Prime95 is about 5.5 hours with 1 error. That was @ 9x333 using the Vcore setting one below 1.2625 (not sure the exact number as Im not looking at the BIOS right now).

I just tried this again with RAM at 667Mhz 5-5-5-15 with 2.0V. I got an error in Prime95 about an hour into testing so I bumped up Vcore to 1.2625. Im about an hour into it with now errors yet.

My plan is to run the Prime95 for about 8-9 hrs. If the results are good, I'll then run memtest for the same amount of time.

Again, Im not sure what is giving me the inconsistent and odd results (Im fairly new to this). Is it the BIOS, the RAM, RAM settings, CPU, CPU settings or MOBO-I dont know?

Im using an OC guide from Toms forums and have all of the basic settings:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/240001-29-howto-overclock-quads-duals-guide

[X7007]

Do you guys have CPU VOLTAGE and EIST using 2604 Bios ?

because EIST is gone and it says to disable it for changing voltage, well of course but its not there and its Enabled. What's wrong with it grr, i cant do any overclock without changing the cpu voltage.

***** NEVER MIND : i found the fix, Disabling the CPU RATIO makes it EIST to appear and then i can change the CPU VOLTAGE.

[MacClipper]

Looks like GDDR4 at work here.
X2 uses 1.0ns GDDR3 memory and clocked and usually clocked at 825MHz
3870 uses .08ns GDDR4 memory and clocked at 777MHz
See the difference now?
The 2 HD3870 cards I used are both factory overclocked versions - Gecube Turbo III (810/1125) and Powercolor PCS (800/1200) so that might account a bit for the score too.

[AHolland]

Just to add a couple of bits of confusion.

A lot of members have said they have a motherboard version 1.02 and cannot set the MCH higher than 1.65. I have that same board version and can set mine as high as 1.85, although I find it the most stable at 1.75. I don't know what the changes were between 1.02 and 1.03.

Crap. Forgot the other two points I was going to put in.

I am probably going to try to put an E8400 into this machine because this e6600 overclocks so poorly. I can do 333 for months, but will die at 334 in 5 minutes. Something weird happening there. If the e8400 runs in the new machine, I will be a happy camper. If not, I'm onto a new board. Personally I am happy if it works because it has been a good board until this morning when it died...happily it was memory related. Strange in that I am use to hearing motherboard beeps with memory issues.

Getting late. Time to go....

[Falkentyne]

Do you guys have CPU VOLTAGE and EIST using 2604 Bios ?

because EIST is gone and it says to disable it for changing voltage, well of course but its not there and its Enabled. What's wrong with it grr, i cant do any overclock without changing the cpu voltage.

***** NEVER MIND : i found the fix, Disabling the CPU RATIO makes it EIST to appear and then i can change the CPU VOLTAGE.

Um.......what?
That's going to do a hell of a lot of good if you have an unlocked multiplier CPU, right?

Disabling the CPU ratio and then you cant change the multiplier, but you can change the vcore by disabling EIST?
But ENABLE CPU Ratio, and the Voltage is STUCK at auto, because EIST is not available to be changed??......

That means this BIOS is worthless with an Extreme edition.

This sounds like a complete fatal bug, don't you think?

[Eastcoasthandle]

The 2 HD3870 cards I used are both factory overclocked versions - Gecube Turbo III (810/1125) and Powercolor PCS (800/1200) so that might account a bit for the score too.

Not really...the reference design of the 3870 has a lower 3d clock vs the 3870 X2 but has better memory. When you have a 3870 in CF it at times performs better then the 3870X2. The major difference is the GDDR4 vs GDDR3. That's why IMO it's better the GDDR4 X2's (when they start to surface).

[romfi]

Um.......what?
That's going to do a hell of a lot of good if you have an unlocked multiplier CPU, right?

Disabling the CPU ratio and then you cant change the multiplier, but you can change the vcore by disabling EIST?
But ENABLE CPU Ratio, and the Voltage is STUCK at auto, because EIST is not available to be changed??......

That means this BIOS is worthless with an Extreme edition.

This sounds like a complete fatal bug, don't you think?

I am running QX6700 (extreme) with 2602 BIOS, and I do not see this problem - I can change both CPU ratio and Voltage. EIST option in BIOS is indeed gone but it actually appears to work. Looks like this BIOS issue exists only with 45 nm CPUs.

[Grendel66]

so from a weird way ASus EZ doesnt want to let me get the update running, it just freezed when i tried to enter it showing me the files from the USB Flash A:\ and C:\(was the usb) i tried without the usb flash and it was still freeze, freeze means i couldnt move between the files i had in the usb files i had like 3 ROMS, and without it i couldnt do CTRL + ALT + DEL thats how it freezed.
Had the same experience. It's not really frozen tho, somehow the keyboard events got "stuck". I finally managed to get to the file and program it by hitting a key (arrow, enter) and then hitting shift until the previous key registered.

reset and to configurate to LOAD DEFAULTS, reset, booted, so it look liked it was freezed, so i reset again and it freezed again, ( i think it wasnt freeze because as you know when you do the Defaults it activates the slow FAN Controls so it gives it more 7 sec or something, and i forgot it at the time) so i turned the computer off, and when i turn it on it didnt boot. I Was IN SHOCKED*, tried everything, pulling memory sticks i have 4x, pulling the power cable, reset CMOS, everything i could think off. so i was at thinking i leave the computer for the day , thinking about RMA and such.
Same thing. Board got stuck after the USB init message on screen, but would eventually continue to boot after pulling USB devices..

So after the day i thought what the hell before i am going to store i will try to turn it on, and POOF magic, it booted and works.
Well, havn't powered it up ever since, will try that..

[DrSlump]

I am probably going to try to put an E8400 into this machine because this e6600 overclocks so poorly. I can do 333 for months, but will die at 334 in 5 minutes. Something weird happening there. If the e8400 runs in the new machine, I will be a happy camper. If not, I'm onto a new board. Personally I am happy if it works because it has been a good board until this morning when it died...happily it was memory related. Strange in that I am use to hearing motherboard beeps with memory issues.

Getting late. Time to go....

I'm having similar problems with a Q6600: it's stable until 328Mhz bus speed. Even @330 i start to get some stability issues (I/O errors), while @333Mhz the board becomes unstable: it works under winxp64 but there are random errors or lockups, no matter the voltage or settings i use: i can make a crazy overvolt on ram, cpu, nb etc etc, no way to gain stability, even using ultra relaxed memory timings etc etc... very strange. I really would like to know the origin of this problems.

[vetrelec]

Do you guys have CPU VOLTAGE and EIST using 2604 Bios ?

because EIST is gone and it says to disable it for changing voltage, well of course but its not there and its Enabled. What's wrong with it grr, i cant do any overclock without changing the cpu voltage.

***** NEVER MIND : i found the fix, Disabling the CPU RATIO makes it EIST to appear and then i can change the CPU VOLTAGE.

Where you download 2604 BIOS?On ASUS ftp latest is 2602.

[X7007]

Where you download 2604 BIOS?On ASUS ftp latest is 2602.

LOL i always confused with those bioses, damn asus always makes jumps between 504 to 506 and than 602, so its confusing and i forgot .

:ROTF: :rofl:
r
and asus when the fix something they ruin something else, when the CPU Ratio was on default x8 when it should be on x9 for Q6600 you needed to Enable the it so you can change it to x9, well after this bios update 2602 you need to disable it to see EIST LOL again. what is wrong with them, and lets not talk about the permantly unboot that could happend before, i thought the motherboard was toast with some weird things in it.

[MacClipper]

For me, my main peeve with the Asus BIOS is that pesky "Config Disk" which appears now and then as a new Hardware Detected by Win XP... such a PITA. Do you guys get this too?

I have already removed both jumpers and disabled it in the BIOS and yet it happens once in a while.

:)

[lawrywild]

I used to get that but not for like a year. Don't know how I stopped it..

[cherrypik]

Lately my computer takes forever to shutdown and restart. I'm talking like 15-20 minutes. Has anyone ever run into this problem?

[lawrywild]

Be more specific? Sounds more like a Windows issue if you're talking about shutting down times..

[cherrypik]

Be more specific? Sounds more like a Windows issue if you're talking about shutting down times..

Yes it is shutdown times. I'm using Vista 32bit Home Premium. It just started in the last week or so. I thought that maybe I might be losing my oc or PSU is going.

[Cordite!]

Clean up your HDD, www.ccleaner.com is a good help.. defrag HDD.. etc//

Lower your o/c a bit as well to see if it goes better.

[lawrywild]

Did you modify anything in the registry? Like "clear page file on shutdown" etc?

[cherrypik]

Did you modify anything in the registry? Like "clear page file on shutdown" etc?

I did not touch my registry but I did go from a 7800gt to ATI 3870. I also cleaned the Nvidia drivers at least 2x.

[Hicksetto]

Hi,

I'm using G0 Q6600@3.150Mhz. (350x9) default voltage with SpeedStep enabled. It looks stable, but over 350MHz. FSB I cannot make my PC stable. Is there any way to use Q6600 about around 3.6 Ghz.? BIOS ver: 2602

Thanks,

Hicksetto

[xMrBunglex]

a P5W can easily do 350 FSB. just put your north bridge volts in the pink. i think 3.6 is probably right around the limits on a G0 Q6600 on air though. go through your overclock one piece at a time, use the process of elimination, and find out which component is holding you back from going further. the motherboard is likely not what's holding you back here.

[clee]

Hi,

I'm using G0 Q6600@3.150Mhz. (350x9) default voltage with SpeedStep enabled. It looks stable, but over 350MHz. FSB I cannot make my PC stable. Is there any way to use Q6600 about around 3.6 Ghz.? BIOS ver: 2602

Thanks,

Hicksetto

My G0 chip barely reached a stable ( 18 hrs+ Prime95 ) clock of 3Ghz ( 335 * 9 ) on the P5W DH yet it can do 3.8 Ghz on the DFI X38 board with less vcore.
P5W DH is a very fine board for dual-core chips, but you'll need motherboards with P35 or X38 chipset to really make your quad-core shines.

[Random Murderer]

My G0 chip barely reached a stable ( 18 hrs+ Prime95 ) clock of 3Ghz ( 335 * 9 ) on the P5W DH yet it can do 3.8 Ghz on the DFI X38 board with less vcore.
P5W DH is a very fine board for dual-core chips, but you'll need motherboards with P35 or X38 chipset to really make your quad-core shines.

methinks you may need to learn more about this board.
i've got my b3 at 3.11 now, but had it stable at 3.6. i backed it down due to heat.

[t_ski]

I did not touch my registry but I did go from a 7800gt to ATI 3870. I also cleaned the Nvidia drivers at least 2x.

Usually shutdown issues seem to be driver related. Unfortunately, it's usually a PITA to diagnose and nail down.

T_Ski: thanks for the in-depth response to my posts, man ( appreciate that )

You're welcome :D

Thanks for the info:up: - I've been wondering what the performance was like between the two.

Don't suppose anyone out there knows how crossfired 2900xt's stack up against the above?

I got a 3870x2 in last week, but I haven't had a chance to bench mine yet. If I can remember, I'll bench it and post the numbers for you.

[clee]

..... but had it stable at 3.6. i backed it down due to heat.

Cheers, did you test it with "at least" 12 hrs of Prime95 ( 4 instances ).
I have the rev. 1.02 board for well over a year now and it has no problem running well over 400 fsb on an e6400 and e6600. My B0 Q6600 reached a max of 390-ish but 335 is the best I could do to make it Prime95 stable.
I'm sure make users here will agree with me that i975 isn't particularly friendly with quad-core CPUs.

But if yours is indeed stable @ 3.6, then congradulation !!!

[Random Murderer]

Cheers, did you test it with "at least" 12 hrs of Prime95 ( 4 instances ).
I have the rev. 1.02 board for well over a year now and it has no problem running well over 400 fsb on an e6400 and e6600. My B0 Q6600 reached a max of 390-ish but 335 is the best I could do to make it Prime95 stable.
I'm sure make users here will agree with me that i975 isn't particularly friendly with quad-core CPUs.

But if yours is indeed stable @ 3.6, then congradulation !!!

it was stable at 3.6, but like i said, backed it down due to heat. never broke 100°, but got damn close while priming it. and no, i only prime for one full pass, i don't go by the "prime it for so long" methodology...

[Random Murderer]

hey, what exactly does the 2602 bios have/do that 2504 doesn't? asus says it adds support for new cpu's, but they don't show any new cpu's in the support list...

[firsttimmer]

quick question, has anyone here tried to use both PCI-E video slot without using the crossfire function? Meaning using 2 video cards at the same time under Vista, so i can have 3 monitors hook up for games? Any performace impacts?

Thanks

[alexlyc]

My G0 chip barely reached a stable ( 18 hrs+ Prime95 ) clock of 3Ghz ( 335 * 9 ) on the P5W DH yet it can do 3.8 Ghz on the DFI X38 board with less vcore.
P5W DH is a very fine board for dual-core chips, but you'll need motherboards with P35 or X38 chipset to really make your quad-core shines.

methinks you may need to learn more about this board.
i've got my b3 at 3.11 now, but had it stable at 3.6. i backed it down due to heat.

Cheers, did you test it with "at least" 12 hrs of Prime95 ( 4 instances ).
I have the rev. 1.02 board for well over a year now and it has no problem running well over 400 fsb on an e6400 and e6600. My B0 Q6600 reached a max of 390-ish but 335 is the best I could do to make it Prime95 stable.
I'm sure make users here will agree with me that i975 isn't particularly friendly with quad-core CPUs.

But if yours is indeed stable @ 3.6, then congradulation !!!

Agree, 975x generate more heat than P35 when oc'ing a quad, but I am sure everyone will agree this is a great board nonetheless.

[Random Murderer]

quick question, has anyone here tried to use both PCI-E video slot without using the crossfire function? Meaning using 2 video cards at the same time under Vista, so i can have 3 monitors hook up for games? Any performace impacts?

Thanks

i've had a 3870 and a 1950 pro running at the same time to use three monitors. it works on xp, not sure about vista.

[t_ski]

Don't suppose anyone out there knows how crossfired 2900xt's stack up against the above?

Well, I forgot I don't have a bench done with the E6850 @3.6GHz and CrossFire 2900XT's. Right now my OC is @ 3.6GHz and I don't feel like going back to stock speeds ATM for you (no offense ;) )...

E6850 @ 3.0GHz w/CrossFire 2900 XT's - 14283

E6850 @ 3.6GHz w/3970X2 - 16103

Next time I back to stock I'll bench the 3870X2 for ya ;)

[Lurker246]

Well, I forgot I don't have a bench done with the E6850 @3.6GHz and CrossFire 2900XT's. Right now my OC is @ 3.6GHz and I don't feel like going back to stock speeds ATM for you (no offense ;) )...

E6850 @ 3.0GHz w/CrossFire 2900 XT's - 14283

E6850 @ 3.6GHz w/3970X2 - 16103

Next time I back to stock I'll bench the 3870X2 for ya ;)


No worries, those numbers are more than enough for me :p: - If you take the CPU overclock out of the equation they look pretty even. Which makes it even harder to make a decision :shrug: .

The choice is:

1. Another 2900xt for crossfire.

2. 2 x 3870's

or

3. 3870x2

I hope to keep this mobo until at least September so 2 X 3870's seems the best choice.

I'd really really really....like to get 2 x 3870x2 but as the P5W is lacking PCIE 2.0 I don't think CrossfireX would run on it as the cards would be running 8x / 8x - Each GPU would run at 4x That just screams bottleneck at me but I had a Google around and there's been no mention of CrossfireX on 975x/P965.

[cherrypik]

Usually shutdown issues seem to be driver related. Unfortunately, it's usually a PITA to diagnose and nail down.


FYI- I guess my harddisk is dirty according to Vista performance. So I ran a lengthly chkdsk and it work fine the first time. I think I going to uninstall all my video and sound drivers and start troubleshooting.

[bigretard21]

Hi. I've searched and read for tips over the months on oc'ing my E6400 with DDR2 800 patriot ram (4-4-4-12 2.2v) and have had limited success trying to get the ram to run 1:1 at it's 400 mhz (ddr2800). So I recently loaded up bios 2504 and decided to make one last effort to reach that goal.

First, is it uncommon to set the DRAM Freq to 400 so that the ram will 1:1 with the E6400? I've tried various bios setups. The highest overclock I could get was with the CPU frequency set to about 360. SO I read about enabling SPD to overcome that 360 barrier, which I did, even got the machine to post, but couldn't get it to load windows. Could that be an overheating issue?

Right now, i'm booted up at a CPU freq of 375, giving me a clock of 3ghz (375x8), but with SPD still enabled, CPUZ is saying the memory timings are at 5-6-6-18! So I dunno, it's time to seek experienced help I guess. I was expecting SPD to set the timings as low as possible for any FSB under 400mhz. So the CPU clock is great, but i'm not where i want to be in terms of the memory, but if i take it off SPD, i can't post.

Temps seem ok- CoreTemp says cpu is 38-40 degrees, TJunction is 85 degrees. Or is that high...hm.

Other voltage settings: mCH-1.55, FSB-1.4, ICH-1.05, Memory 2.2v, CPU 1.375v

Thanks for any suggestions.

[Snatch]

POST lock up during Detecting IDE Devices - Restart and plug in some USB storage OR change SATA harddrive to other header. [Credit - OPB]

..


IS this the only fix for this? Changing the SATA HDD to other header doesn't work for me. I have an external HDD and if I turned that on everything works, but I think I paid to much for this mobo to have to do this crap just to work properly.
Specs:nothing OCed

P5W DH (just flashed to 2602 ,but it was doing the same thing with 1305)
E6600 with Tuniq
2GB Corsair XMS
7900GT KO with Zalman
X-Fi Gamer
Seagate SATA
OCZ 700W PSu

Should I RMA the mobo?

Thanks

[Donseba]

i have the sam problem of "POST lock up during Detecting IDE Devices" it´s common in the p5w dh or it´s a motherboard error???

[Random Murderer]

i have the sam problem of "POST lock up during Detecting IDE Devices" it´s common in the p5w dh or it´s a motherboard error???

go into bios, go to "ide configuration" on the first screen, and set "IDE detection timeout" to 0 or 5.

[Donseba]

thanks!, but that´s not the problem, the problem is that the detection of usb devices is too much, it´s normal ?

[Psitech]

Has anyone gotten an E8400 to work with a P5W? I got my E8400 in today and decided I'd try it in my p5w since I'm not getting my new dfi dk p35 for a couple weeks. The bios I was using was 2504 and I just couldn't get things going with the E8400. It would post fine and I could work in the bios with no problem at all, but booting into windows was a different story. Windows would load but before my startups were finish loading the computer would reboot. In the bios it showed the default cpu voltage of 1.17 and I'm pretty sure that's pretty low.

I decided to up the voltage a bit and found that the lowest voltage I could set was 1.375 so I decided to give that a try. Again, it booted into windows and then rebooted. I go back into the bios to find the cpu voltage showing 0.98.

I went to the asus site and they show that the E8400 should work with 2504. Do you guys think I should wait for my dfi board to get here or should I give it another try using bios 2602?

[w2richwood]

give the 2602 a try and let us know how it works
Rich

[Lurker246]

i have the sam problem of "POST lock up during Detecting IDE Devices" it´s common in the p5w dh or it´s a motherboard error???

Is there a card reader on your usb printer maybe? This happened to me when I had a USB HP printer/scanner if I left an SD card in the slot at boot up. Can't check it though as the printer now resides in a landfill somewhere!

[Psitech]

Is there a card reader on your usb printer maybe? This happened to me when I had a USB HP printer/scanner if I left an SD card in the slot at boot up. Can't check it though as the printer now resides in a landfill somewhere!

I get the same problem when my printer is turned on because it has a card reader built into it. If the printer is turned on, the computer will hang at the same point . It will continue to boot when I turn the printer off. It's crazy, but it's the truth.


For those of you wanting to know about the E8400 and bios 2602 - I'm going to try it when I get home after work. I didn't feel like messing with it any longer last night after I had put my e6600 back in. I'll update you all later today and let ya know the results with 2602.

[Khalmyr]

Ah I'm getting really pissed off

I have a P5W DH 1.04G and an E6420, and before, because of heat issues i wouldn't go over 3.4Ghz with it (425 * 8). I had an old Zalman 7000B CU.

I just recently bought a Thermalright 120 Ultra Extreme, and obviously all my heat problems are over.

But that also showed me that my board won't go over 428 FSB no matter what I do! Vmch is already at max (1.8v) and it's cooled properly.

What else could I do to try and take it higher? Do any of the other voltage options matter?

My mem sticks can go up to around 1000 easily.

It's also not a processor issue. This very same processor used to run at 3.8Ghz (475 * 8) at a P5B Deluxe before I put it in my mobo.

Could anyone help?
Thanks in advance

[Sejo5]

Hey, Khalmyr

Alot of mobos are diff i found that i cant bring my 6750 past 3.6Ghz without crashing and thats with the 450FSB wall. And my voltage is upthere but i got proper cooling which makes me sleep better.

Im running 3.6 stable... But if i go 1FSB higher i go BSOD. And thats with my voltages up there and tried every setting possible.

And this CPU i had it past 4Ghz on a Maximus Formula SE. Friend let me play with his mobo while he was waiting for his wolfdale. :)

[Khalmyr]

well, 450FSB is already better than 428.

I'm very frustrated that even though I bought a new cooler i can't overclock any further than what i already did.

any special adjustments to be able to use 450FSB 24/7?

[Donseba]

when i start the pc the detection of usb devices is too much, it´s normal ?

[brq]

I've P5W DH Deluxe and an E6600 running at 340x9= 3060MHz with stock volt, Orthos stable... and I want to go higher but, if i go any higher it results in BSoD :/ I've read the thread and I wonder if you guys have any tips for me?

The cooling isn't a problem, I've a Scythe Ninja which's cooling my E6600 and the temps is like, 25/40 which isn't bad? And yes, I'm running latest BIOS...

So, any tips?

[secretworld]

I've P5W DH Deluxe and an E6600 running at 340x9= 3060MHz with stock volt, Orthos stable... and I want to go higher but, if i go any higher it results in BSoD :/ I've read the thread and I wonder if you guys have any tips for me?

The cooling isn't a problem, I've a Scythe Ninja which's cooling my E6600 and the temps is like, 25/40 which isn't bad? And yes, I'm running latest BIOS...

So, any tips?
Sorry no tips but,
Same here with a Q6600, I can run at 350 and 4X prime stable but using winrar over the network produces CRC errors with large files. Beyond 350 is problems all over. 340 is the highest that I can run flawless.

[Psitech]

I tried my E8400 again last night with bios 2602 and got the exact same results as I did with 2504. It would boot with no problem at all but reboot just after loading windows. I put my e6600 back in and all is well.

Do you guys think it has anything to do with the revision of the board? I don't remember the exact revision of mine but it only goes to 1.65 for the NB. The chip information reported is accurate, but when loading all bios defaults and then looking at the reported cpu voltage in the bios it reads at 1.75. The lowest voltage available for me to choose is 1.375 and I know that this is WAY off.

Any ideas?

[deddaz]

Anyone else having temperature reading issues with latest bios (2602)?
Last weekend I upgraded to 2504(?), and after doing so my CPU case temp went up from 36 to 42 C (C2D E6600). I thought I had high temperature before, considering I'm still at stock clock but now it's ridiculous. The core temp hasn't changed though, it's still 50-52C (which is pretty high too isn't it?). So I thought this was something that came with 2504, but after flashing to 2602 the issue is still there..... anyone else seen this?

Btw, what's the highest clock anyone reached on stock voltage for my kind of cpu (E6600 C6 stepping B2)???

[Random Murderer]

Sorry no tips but,
Same here with a Q6600, I can run at 350 and 4X prime stable but using winrar over the network produces CRC errors with large files. Beyond 350 is problems all over. 340 is the highest that I can run flawless.

i run 355 24/7 and i'm going higher when i get better cooling...
what i don't understand is how all you guys are having problems above a certain point... do you have the pci-e locked?

[secretworld]

i run 355 24/7 and i'm going higher when i get better cooling...
what i don't understand is how all you guys are having problems above a certain point... do you have the pci-e locked?
Yes PCIe fixed @100 (and PCI @ 33) and nothing helps. No voltages, no relaxing ram timings. Seems like like one part is overheating and producing errors but all temps are really low.

[Random Murderer]

Yes PCIe fixed @100 (and PCI @ 33) and nothing helps. No voltages, no relaxing ram timings. Seems like like one part is overheating and producing errors but all temps are really low.

do you have hyperpath 3 disabled?

[SkyYYZ]

Hey Psitech,

Try setting the voltage to auto... my E8400 is running smooth. And make sure your RAM voltage is set correctly and to Auto timings (by SPD I think is what I selected.) Computer uses stock speeds and RAM is 1:1 using different timings than factory. If you get Windows to boot then you can try different OC settings if you want.

My 8800GT was running at half clock until I finally reinstalled Windows as a last resort. All was fine after that... machine is running sweet. Going to attempt overclock to 3.6GHz soon using stock cooling, which apparently E8400 does without effort or extra voltage.

Keep us updated. BTW I'm using Bios 2602.

Jay

I tried my E8400 again last night with bios 2602 and got the exact same results as I did with 2504. It would boot with no problem at all but reboot just after loading windows. I put my e6600 back in and all is well.

Do you guys think it has anything to do with the revision of the board? I don't remember the exact revision of mine but it only goes to 1.65 for the NB. The chip information reported is accurate, but when loading all bios defaults and then looking at the reported cpu voltage in the bios it reads at 1.75. The lowest voltage available for me to choose is 1.375 and I know that this is WAY off.

Any ideas?

[Psitech]

Hey Psitech,

Try setting the voltage to auto... my E8400 is running smooth. And make sure your RAM voltage is set correctly and to Auto timings (by SPD I think is what I selected.) Computer uses stock speeds and RAM is 1:1 using different timings than factory. If you get Windows to boot then you can try different OC settings if you want.

My 8800GT was running at half clock until I finally reinstalled Windows as a last resort. All was fine after that... machine is running sweet. Going to attempt overclock to 3.6GHz soon using stock cooling, which apparently E8400 does without effort or extra voltage.

Keep us updated. BTW I'm using Bios 2602.

Jay

It looks as if the E8400 isn't going to work with my P5W. I've literally tried everything at this point. I've tried different voltages for mem, cpu, mch, it didn't matter. I've tried every possible thing I can think of. I did a full cmos reset and even did a long cmos reset and that didn't even help.

The thing that still bothers me is that it seemed to be defaulting to the correct default voltage (1.18) after I did the cmos reset, but the lowest voltage available to me was still 1.375. What made it more weird is when I set the cpu volts to 1.375, the bios hardware monitor showed 0.98. I could crank the voltage and it would barely move in the hardware monitor status. As a last result I set the cpu voltage to 1.65 just to see what it would read as the actual voltage and it was just 1.23v in the bios monitor section. Something is majorly screwed. I don't know if it's my board or the processor.

No matter what I tried in the bios, it would either reboot before loading into windows or reboot seconds after loading windows. I even tried taking 2 sticks of ram out and that didn't help either.

The thing that REALLY sux now is I have my E6600 back in and I can't change the cpu voltage from "auto". I've even got speedstep and c1e turned off. This board is really pissing me off now. Sux that I've got to wait a couple of weeks till I can get a P35 board. :mad:

Update: I figured out the cpu voltage problem with my E6600. I had to do another full cmos reset to get any voltage other than "auto" after putting the e6600 back in. This makes me feel a bit better. I may give it this board one last shot tomorrow with the e8400. If it doesn't work after that I'll give up and wait for my P35.

[rvltion909]

:shakes:

Im just about done here. I've tried configuring all the settings and performing all the tests I've read about and my results have been the same...

ERROR/CRASH

My most recent configuration was:

FSB 333
Vcore 2.2625
RAM: DDR2 667 1:1 5-5-5-15 2.0V
Hyperpath 3 disabled
PCI-e set to 100
PCI Clock Synchronization 33:33


I initially thought my problems might have been stemming from my RAM so I ran memtest for 12hrs with no errors.

I then began running the Prime 95 tests. I first ran the combination tests which had temps around the high 50's. It ran for about 8hrs then produced an error report.

I bumped up Vcore and ran again...an error after a couple hours.

I changed vcore to auto and ran the small fft test. The temps were hung at about high 50's/low 60's. It shut down at around the 1hr mark.

My most recent was running small fft test in Prime95 with 2.2625 Vcore, Hyper 3 disabled and all the same settings mentioned above.

I got a shutdown in a little over an hour. The temps were around mid-high 60's


Im grasping at straws here guys. Does an end-all solution exist for my set up? Im just about ready to give up on over clocking here. Its a brand new q6600. I see posts from people who are running stable at well above 333 here and Im wondering what the hell Im doing wrong and if the 25% increase is even worth it at this point.

Like I said before, I run this PC for strictly DAW purposes and this has been the most unproductive, creativity-killing waste of time.

t_ski, Larry-is it worth trying for 333 or higher anymore or has this board been a waste of $ in re: to over clocking?

[Random Murderer]

:shakes:

Im just about done here. I've tried configuring all the settings and performing all the tests I've read about and my results have been the same...

ERROR/CRASH

My most recent configuration was:

FSB 333
Vcore 2.2625
RAM: DDR2 667 1:1 5-5-5-15 2.0V
Hyperpath 3 disabled
PCI-e set to 100
PCI Clock Synchronization 33:33


I initially thought my problems might have been stemming from my RAM so I ran memtest for 12hrs with no errors.

I then began running the Prime 95 tests. I first ran the combination tests which had temps around the high 50's. It ran for about 8hrs then produced an error report.

I bumped up Vcore and ran again...an error after a couple hours.

I changed vcore to auto and ran the small fft test. The temps were hung at about high 50's/low 60's. It shut down at around the 1hr mark.

My most recent was running small fft test in Prime95 with 2.2625 Vcore, Hyper 3 disabled and all the same settings mentioned above.

I got a shutdown in a little over an hour. The temps were around mid-high 60's


Im grasping at straws here guys. Does an end-all solution exist for my set up? Im just about ready to give up on over clocking here. Its a brand new q6600. I see posts from people who are running stable at well above 333 here and Im wondering what the hell Im doing wrong and if the 25% increase is even worth it at this point.

Like I said before, I run this PC for strictly DAW purposes and this has been the most unproductive, creativity-killing waste of time.

t_ski, Larry-is it worth trying for 333 or higher anymore or has this board been a waste of $ in re: to over clocking?

what are your fsb termination voltages and mch voltage? set your mch voltage to 1.65. fsb just ratchet up in single notches until it's stable.:up:

[secretworld]

do you have hyperpath 3 disabled?

yes disabled, with hyperpath 290 is the highest FSB I can get.

[Lurker246]

i run 355 24/7 and i'm going higher when i get better cooling...
what i don't understand is how all you guys are having problems above a certain point... do you have the pci-e locked?

Isn't it a limitation with the 975x chipset and Quads? For the most part anywhere between 333 - 360 could be stable, it seems to be a lottery what you'll be able to reach and keep stable with a quad.

I've only seen I think 1 guy that has managed to get it above 360 stable and that was with a completely watercooled mobo- NB,CPU,mosfets...etc.

The highest I was able to reach was 360 X 9 3.2Ghz (I've got 6 x 120mm fans on it) but the onboard audio would completely freak out and almost pop your ear drums with a high pitched whine before it died.

[Donseba]

when i start the pc the detection of usb devices is too much, it´s normal ?

[Random Murderer]

Isn't it a limitation with the 975x chipset and Quads? For the most part anywhere between 333 - 360 could be stable, it seems to be a lottery what you'll be able to reach and keep stable with a quad.

I've only seen I think 1 guy that has managed to get it above 360 stable and that was with a completely watercooled mobo- NB,CPU,mosfets...etc.

The highest I was able to reach was 360 X 9 3.2Ghz (I've got 6 x 120mm fans on it) but the onboard audio would completely freak out and almost pop your ear drums with a high pitched whine before it died.

i don't know, the only problems i've experienced have been heat, and only pertaining to the cpu itself. maybe because i'm on a b3 i'm not experiencing what you guys are?

[rvltion909]

what are your fsb termination voltages and mch voltage? set your mch voltage to 1.65. fsb just ratchet up in single notches until it's stable.:up:

FSB term is set to auto. Just set the mch to 1.65 and have been stressing with Prime 95 (small fft) for almost 3hrs. No errors yet. Temps are at about 58-60.

What's the difference between FSB term. and Vcore voltage?

BTW during these failed stress tests...the next time I try to boot up it plays dead. I'll have to switch the PSU off and when I boot up again it posts the "failed" overclock msg in the BIOS (anyone else get this? is it normal?)

[Random Murderer]

FSB term is set to auto. Just set the mch to 1.65 and have been stressing with Prime 95 (small fft) for almost 3hrs. No errors yet. Temps are at about 58-60.

What's the difference between FSB term. and Vcore voltage?

VCore is the voltage being supplied to the processor itself.
FSB Termination:
source -> line -> component -> short line -> termination

the "lines" in this case are signal traces. works a lot like a SCSI bus. high speed switching operations can cause reflections on the line (in essence, this is resonant noise caused from high-speed switching on the lines as the memory controller gates on and off to place data on the bus, nothing more than rising and falling voltages). clearly enough, the faster the signal switches (higher frequency memory) the more noise.

termination resistors, used in passive termination environments, are exactly matched to the target frequency for operation based largely on trace length, ESR (equivalent series resistance) and the over capactive/inductive nature of the circuit, as well as some other things well out of the scope of this post. problem is that this is often matched for a specific frequency...which as we know is not so cool for overclockers. enter the active termination system. this actually uses a voltage bias to set final line resistance value so that the user can tune for better operation when overclocking.

this method of tuning is largely trial and error as you have no way of know the specification of the circuit or have any idea of the calculations need to find the "perfect" value. so anway, the answer is, strangely enough, whatever works best. :)

hope this helps. :toast:

FCG

[Nu-B]

Hey, sorry to just jump in with my P5w issue, but I thought you guys would
have some ideas or pointers.
Hopefully my system specs will show up below.....

I've just put together my system, I have never OC'ed before, hence my handle
of "Nu-B". The computer runs fine, steady as a rock. Using Intel TAT, it appears my E6600 cores are running at 57/55 at idle, and 65/59 at 5 minutes
of 100% cpu activity. Which is WAY too hot for my tastes. I've tried Speedfan
to increase the stock CPU cooler fan (pwm) from its slow 1600 rpm, but no-go.
I've enabled/disabled the AIQuiet(?) in the BIOS, and done the same with the
Q-fan control. Changed the specs all around in Speedfan, to no avail.
CPU fan just rotates at 1600, no changes. Any ideas?

If I have to, I'd drive the CPU fan off the PSU with a potentiometer, but I'd
prefer not to.

[rvltion909]

I had a similar problem. What is your OC config?

I've never used the stock cooler but the problem I had with my Freezer Pro with similar temps was due to an improper mount.

Those bastards are a "bich" to get in there just right. I had to take the board out to actually see that is wasnt mounted right...at all. You might not have to and if anybody has any tips on mounting them correctly the first time... without taking the board out or breakin the flippn CPU Im all ears :up:

Im always scared Im going to put too much pressure on it, slip and knock off one of the batteries or something. I got some good advice from somebody here who spotted the sign right away. Check you mount.

BTW guys, Im at 12+hrs stress testing with Prime95 with no errors (longest its ever gone!) Im going to try to run the full 24hrs. Looks like the MCH voltage may have been the culprit.

The advice of a Random Murderer has never been so useful. :hehe:

[JacKz5o]

The FSB won't go too high

[next-jin]

Hey guys I'm having a hell of a time getting anything meaningful out of my board. Here is my setup.

e6750 w/Zalman 9700
P5W DH Deluxe
2 Gb PC 1066
8800GTX
2x Raptors in Raid 0

for some reason I cannot get this thing to post over any adjustments what so ever,

What is the basic settings config for a solid overclock I could expect with this setup?

Hyperpath 3 Disabled
MCH voltages etc?

[w2richwood]

do some reading from first page on lots of good infor.
Rich

[rvltion909]

yup, Im done-spoke to soon :down:

after the 14+hr run I got a reboot. Bumped it down to 2.8 Mhz and it posted fine. I threw my DAW test at it (8-audio tracks, 8 cpu intensive vst/midi tracks and loads of effects). It got pushed to about 55% CPU use and high 50's in temps.

Shut it down, moved it back to my room and tried to boot back up 3 hrs later. Nope, wont post. I cant even load defaults to boot. If Im able to boot up and load defaults anytime in the near future...thats where I'll stay.


Im setting a $100 limit on my next board and it wont be ASUS. Im pretty sure I've covered all the bases and addressed all the variables here and its not happening.

[Random Murderer]

yup, Im done-spoke to soon :down:

after the 14+hr run I got a reboot. Bumped it down to 2.8 Mhz and it posted fine. I threw my DAW test at it (8-audio tracks, 8 cpu intensive vst/midi tracks and loads of effects). It got pushed to about 55% CPU use and high 50's in temps.

Shut it down, moved it back to my room and tried to boot back up 3 hrs later. Nope, wont post. I cant even load defaults to boot. If Im able to boot up and load defaults anytime in the near future...thats where I'll stay.


Im setting a $100 limit on my next board and it wont be ASUS. Im pretty sure I've covered all the bases and addressed all the variables here and its not happening.

you think maybe it has something to do with your room?

[w2richwood]

well asus boards are stable as a rock i have a hard time buying anything else its that board needs rma or one of your other parts are bad. or something your doing or not doing so what ever makes you happy go for it but ive had many asus for years a happy as can be and will stay with them tell something proofs better
Rich

[MacClipper]

Seems no one has posted a E2160 in this thread so far so here goes. Finally demoted the P5W from main rig so bought a cheap cpu for it and running at Auto Vcore - one of my main dislikes about this mobo's BIOS since I prefer to have EIST/C1E active. Using XP90c, AC Ryan 120mm fan and Kingston VR D9DCL sticks (2.0V), Prime95 stable >2hrs. Couldn't even reach 9 x 333FSB with OCCT stability at Auto Vcore, pity!

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w78/MacClipper/P5W_Q6600/E2160312FSBAutoVcore_Prime95_OK.png

[P5WDHdeluxe]

i can't see in bios any option, if our cpu reach a specific temp.(i.e over 70c) our system to be shut down... how can i configure this one?
anything on that?

[Falkentyne]

Isn't it a limitation with the 975x chipset and Quads? For the most part anywhere between 333 - 360 could be stable, it seems to be a lottery what you'll be able to reach and keep stable with a quad.

I've only seen I think 1 guy that has managed to get it above 360 stable and that was with a completely watercooled mobo- NB,CPU,mosfets...etc.

The highest I was able to reach was 360 X 9 3.2Ghz (I've got 6 x 120mm fans on it) but the onboard audio would completely freak out and almost pop your ear drums with a high pitched whine before it died.

I got 370 stable on my Qx9650. Using x-fi though. 380 fsb wasn't prime stable at 1.3875v and I didn't try to go any higher on the vcore. 400 fsb didn't post. The same frequency was stable at much lower vcore at 333 fsb/higher multi. This was at 4-4-4-12 timings and 1.65 mch.

[next-jin]

Ok I cannot get this thing to boot into windows with the following settings. It will POST but will not get to the windows logon, it'll just remain black.

CPU Freq: 400
DRAM Freq: 800
Performance Mode: Auto
PCI-E Freq: 100
PCI Clock Sync: 33.33
Memory Volt: 2.2 (as per rating @ 1066)
Vcore: 1.4
FSB Volt: 1.3
MCH: 1.65
ICH: Auto
Memory Timings: 5-5-5-15-5
Hyperpath 3: Disabled
DRAM Throttiling: Auto

I am using Raid from the chipset and not the JMicron controller
I am using the onboard soundcard
BIOS: 2301

System:

e6750 w/9700 AS5
P5W DH Dlx
8800GTX
2x Raptors Raid 0
1 IDE 500Gb
PC Power and Cooling 750w Silencer

With everything at stock (I cannot overclock) my temps are:

Idle -
CPU 95f
NB 110f

Full load -
CPU 51c
NB ?

I shouldnt be hitting a FSB wall because I am not using the SPD settings and disabled Hyperpath 3.

Any suggestions?

[Lurker246]

I got 370 stable on my Qx9650. Using x-fi though. 380 fsb wasn't prime stable at 1.3875v and I didn't try to go any higher on the vcore. 400 fsb didn't post. The same frequency was stable at much lower vcore at 333 fsb/higher multi. This was at 4-4-4-12 timings and 1.65 mch.

370 on a Quad is excellent:up: well done

I've got an old Audigy lying about but it sounds like crap in vista so I've left it residing in my old rig. If you've ever heard the high pitch whine from the on board you just know it's not healthy and the first time I heard it I thought it was an air raid siren, then realised it was the pc audio and promptly ripped the plug out of the wall socket in a panic!

My system did boot at 400 fsb on Lawry's G0 BIOS, 400 X 8 (1.85 mch, Auto SPD, 1:1)- even made it as far as windows but crapped out after login.

333 X 9 is steady as a rock for me though and I'm more than happy with it.

[Korgan]

Mine boots up Windows at 409Mhz FSB @ 1,65v mch. Thats with an E8400. I have removed the metal plate on the north bridge cooler and put a fan on it. Lowers the temp aprox. 10c.

I can run 3DMark05/06 stable up to 450Mhz FSB but I have to use clockgen to reach higher than 409Mhz.

[tktnuri]

Just purchased new RAM pc8500 corsair for E6700 set up. Will this work ad what are safe FSB and RAM settings for Air cooled system?

I have the 130*? Bios do I need to update that first if so which one works best for getting the most out of my 1066mhz PC8500 ram w/ E6700?

[Random Murderer]

Just purchased new RAM pc8500 corsair for E6700 set up. Will this work ad what are safe FSB and RAM settings for Air cooled system?

I have the 130*? Bios do I need to update that first if so which one works best for getting the most out of my 1066mhz PC8500 ram w/ E6700?

you don't need to update, but should anyway. the newer bios'es have more overclocking features, fixes, and i have found it to actually be more stable than 1707, the bios i was previously on.:up:

[tktnuri]

you don't need to update, but should anyway. the newer bios' have more over clocking features, fixes, and i have found it to actually be more stable than 1707, the bios i was previously on.:up:

Thanks for the reply, through Asus Update Im getting the option for 2406, 2302, and 1407 bios versions. SHould I just manually download one. I think I tried 2302 when I first got it and had to go back to the first version 1100 something.

[Random Murderer]

Thanks for the reply, through Asus Update Im getting the option for 2406, 2302, and 1407 bios versions. SHould I just manually download one. I think I tried 2302 when I first got it and had to go back to the first version 1100 something.

2504 is nice, and i've heard 2602 is even nicer.

[rvltion909]

OK

So apparently I screwed myself pretty bad. The thing wont boot nor will it flash. Here's what I've tried:

-restoring defaults

-flashing with original board CD BIOS [alt-F2]

-flashing with USB thumb drive [alt-F2]

-clearing CMOS (taking the battery out for 30sec)

-switching the RAM sticks DIMM slots


The longest it will go is about 30sec then it shuts down. It will start to load Windows and has actually got to the desktop once and shutdown almost immediately at that point.

In the flash process for the USB, it finds the .rom file and beeps 2x indicating that it found it...but then proceeds to move past and search the CD ROM location, floppy, etc again then shuts down (BIOS 2602)

So since Im pretty much fukt at this point, my question is if anybody has a simple resolution (preferably from experience).

Im in the States and purchased the board from Newegg.com in 9/06 so the 1year warranty is up on their part. I scanned the ASUS website and see that the motherboards have a 3 year warranty. I live in California and the US location I see for "repair" with ASUS is in California.

I want this resolved with the least amount of down time as possible. I bought the board for $270. Does anybody have any experience going through a warranty repair process with ASUS? Does anybody have any experience with Newegg (would they go for a replacement or store credit? from their site...it does not look like it but...?)

Thanks

[mikepaul]

So since Im pretty much fukt at this point, my question is if anybody has a simple resolution (preferably from experience).

You don't mention using the reset jumper in conjunction with the battery pull. I don't think battery alone resets the CMOS...

[t_ski]

I want this resolved with the least amount of down time as possible. I bought the board for $270. Does anybody have any experience going through a warranty repair process with ASUS? Does anybody have any experience with Newegg (would they go for a replacement or store credit? from their site...it does not look like it but...?)

Thanks

Here's an easy one: if the problem is OC related, take out the CPU. I did this once before to clean of some thermal compound and when I had everything assembled again, the BIOS was reset to stcok settings for the "new" CPU (lol, even though it was the same one). The BIOS screen said something about a "new CPU installed..."

[rvltion909]

You don't mention using the reset jumper in conjunction with the battery pull. I don't think battery alone resets the CMOS...


You know...newbie stupid mistake, no. I actually did NOT reset the jumper. Thanks.

However, I just did that now with the battery pull. Powered it back on and it gave the typical "overclock failed" message so I hit F2 to restore defaults. It then booted into Windows and sat on desktop for 30 sec. then....same ol' crap...power down.


I'll try taking the CPU out next (grudgingly) to see if T Ski's suggestion helps and repost my plea to anybody who has had experience with ASUS warranty returns or newegg.com

[mikepaul]

I have to say, getting as far as Windows loading sounds like some mis-set option doesn't reset, and you should carefully look through everything to see if it's on Auto again instead of some higher setting...

[secretworld]

Things to try;
Memtest from floppy
Booting in safemode
If both are OK, then it´s a driver/XP issue.

[t_ski]

Booting in safemode

I was just going to suggest that. Also, in case this might be a power related issue, do you have another PSU you might be able to try?

[rvltion909]

I have to say, getting as far as Windows loading sounds like some mis-set option doesn't reset, and you should carefully look through everything to see if it's on Auto again instead of some higher setting...

Im definitely thinking its a mis-set option too. Problem is... Im usually not able to get into BIOS settings to verify and if I do, it shuts down shortly after. Is it possible to "corrupt" a BIOS (apart from bribery of course... :p: )?

I'll try safe mode as well. In re: to the PSU: this is basically a brand new PC (as of 10/06). Everything was purchased new during that time frame besides the video card which was bought on ebay used. This thing has rarely been used since its been built.

[w2richwood]

could be getting hot also it will shut it down
Rich

[mikepaul]

Im definitely thinking its a mis-set option too. Problem is... Im usually not able to get into BIOS settings to verify and if I do, it shuts down shortly after. Is it possible to "corrupt" a BIOS (apart from bribery of course... :p: )?
I've screwed up my CMOS settings before so that changes were ignored, but the reset cleared that up. I'm surprised that you can boot to Windows at all but can't hit Delete and visit the BIOS settings long enough to save, unless all failures are based on time since starting the PC and not the thing it's doing at that moment. That leads back to heat like w2richwood says.

Do everything with the case wide open and a fan blowing on the CPU, then RUSH through the BIOS settings to be sure they are at stock...

[~aoe~]

I've recently flashed to 2602 since adding water cooling to my system, and noticed some strange behaviour whilst overclocking the system.

As we all know, when trying to find a good stable overclock, we invariably push our systems a bit too much and need to clear CMOS occasionally, especially with these Asus motherboards that often refuse to provide a video output :p:.

Anyhow, during a couple of these attempts to clear CMOS and load defaults, I noticed some strange options appearing in my BIOS. Firstly, my E6600 appeared to have an unlocked multiplier (max allowed 20x). Whilst I could set the multi at 10x, this could not be saved (after saving, POST reported the default 9x).

Also, in one of the voltage options (I think it was vCore), I had some strange options at the bottom of the list that were not voltages but texts. Unfortunately, I didn't make a note of these options.

After a couple of reboots, this strange behaviour seems to disappear, and the system currently seems to be stable @ 9x400. I was just wondering whether the BIOS was 'slightly' corrupt (if there is such a thing).

Has anyone else noticed anything strange like this with 2602?

[rvltion909]

I've screwed up my CMOS settings before so that changes were ignored, but the reset cleared that up. I'm surprised that you can boot to Windows at all but can't hit Delete and visit the BIOS settings long enough to save, unless all failures are based on time since starting the PC and not the thing it's doing at that moment. That leads back to heat like w2richwood says.

Do everything with the case wide open and a fan blowing on the CPU, then RUSH through the BIOS settings to be sure they are at stock...

I've been able to boot to Windows on a RARE occasion (i.e. once or twice since this problem began) but it shuts down almost immediately after.

I started to think maybe it was the PSU or hard drive too since it seems to have the longest life on the 1st boot, then shorter with each boot after. It doesn’t make sense though since all the pieces are brand new like I said and I had no problems before.

In regards to the heat: the temps. were pretty normal when stress testing (around 68). The heat sink/fan is now properly mounted. I've got 7 fans in the box including the CPU fan so Im pretty sure its not a heat factor.

What's mentioned above though kinda scares me (unlocked multiplier) although that seems to be a product of a messed up BIOS since my understanding is that the locked multiplier is a "hard coded" feature of the Q6600 CPU and not determined by the BIOS.

Not sure...Im going to try taking the CPU out for a couple min. like what T_Ski mentioned. If this does not work is there any harm in trying my Conroe (i.e. would anybody recommend NOT putting it in to prevent any possible damage if the board itself has done something to fry the Q6600)?

[rvltion909]

:shrug:

Success for now...


T_Ski's suggestion worked. I took the CPU out for a couple sec and put back in. I tried to use "EZ Flash" to flash back to Larry's 2004 and it wont let you because "version is older than current board" WTF?!

Whatever, I got to Windows and it seems fine. I'll do my research the next time I buy a board (and it wont be ASUS).

Thanks for all the help guys!!

[t_ski]

Glad it worked for you. IIRC, you should be able to use the award flasher and some switches to go to an earlier BIOS file.

[w2richwood]

you can use afudos 2.11 to back flash to oder bios
Rich

[JEIROQ]

Hey guys, I just want to thank all of you for having this thread going.. good work guys! I think I've read 200+ pages and it was all very informing. I've been leeching here for the past month or so, and now I'm making my first post haha.

Anyways, I would like to ask you guys what settings you think I would need to bump my E6750 up to 3.4 or 3.6GHz?

I currently have it rock solid stable at 3.2 (it's a 2.66 chip) with a 400 MHz Bus (8x multi) and 1:1 with DDR2-6400 (Corsair CM2X-6400). My Vcore is set to 1.36 V, and right now I don't remember what RAM is set to (other than 5-5-5-15 timings). And I can run Prime95 for 24+ hours with a max load temp of ~42C. I run idle at ~22C and sometimes dips down to 19-20C with a Zalman CMPS9700 that I paid around $30 for at a CompUSA store closing.. one of the best deals I've got from there (except the two 20' THX Monster cables for $10 each, haha).

Anywho.. what do you guys think is possible with this board and processor?

Edit: Forgot to mention, I'm also running BIOS 2504.

[Random Murderer]

Hey guys, I just want to thank all of you for having this thread going.. good work guys! I think I've read 200+ pages and it was all very informing. I've been leeching here for the past month or so, and now I'm making my first post haha.

Anyways, I would like to ask you guys what settings you think I would need to bump my E6750 up to 3.4 or 3.6GHz?

I currently have it rock solid stable at 3.2 (it's a 2.66 chip) with a 400 MHz Bus (8x multi) and 1:1 with DDR2-6400 (Corsair CM2X-6400). My Vcore is set to 1.36 V, and right now I don't remember what RAM is set to (other than 5-5-5-15 timings). And I can run Prime95 for 24+ hours with a max load temp of ~42C. I run idle at ~22C and sometimes dips down to 19-20C with a Zalman CMPS9700 that I paid around $30 for at a CompUSA store closing.. one of the best deals I've got from there (except the two 20' THX Monster cables for $10 each, haha).

Anywho.. what do you guys think is possible with this board and processor?

Edit: Forgot to mention, I'm also running BIOS 2504.

it's hard to say really, but you could start by raising the multi and dropping the fsb and then working back up to 400.

[P5WDHdeluxe]

i have an E6600 and bios 2504... everything default... nothing o/ced...
i have noticed in CpuZ, on idle situation, multi *6, the core voltage is changing from second to second...
on full load reaches 1.288 and changes less often... but on idle is always changing... is smthg that i must worry about?

psu: Enermax Liberty 620 watt

[Lee13168]

I am completely screwed thanks to the 2602 bios. I reset my bios to default and updated the bios with the tool in the bios. Everything was fine till the xp loading screen. I got a blue screen 5 seconds into it. This keeps on happening each time i try to start the computer. So then i try to go back to 2406 which had my e6600 rock stable at 3.4. Having no floppy drive it took me quite some time to get dos on a flash drive and go back to 2406. To my surprise i still had the same problem. I then tried to take out the cpu, different ram slots, reseting cmos by using the jumper by the sbridge and nothing seems to work. I am completely lost and any help would be great.

[Falkentyne]

I am completely screwed thanks to the 2602 bios. I reset my bios to default and updated the bios with the tool in the bios. Everything was fine till the xp loading screen. I got a blue screen 5 seconds into it. This keeps on happening each time i try to start the computer. So then i try to go back to 2406 which had my e6600 rock stable at 3.4. Having no floppy drive it took me quite some time to get dos on a flash drive and go back to 2406. To my surprise i still had the same problem. I then tried to take out the cpu, different ram slots, reseting cmos by using the jumper by the sbridge and nothing seems to work. I am completely lost and any help would be great.

Your OS is corrupted. You need to do a repair install. I doubt this was caused *by* the 2602 bios directly; you may have had one of the memory timings set incorrectly (bad RAM settings is the fastest way to completely screw over the windows registry; even more so than a CPU, which has to be MADLY unstable to do the same thing--a cpu that may fail prime within 5 seconds may load the OS just fine). Search google for windows xp repair installation, and there should be a link that tells you how to repair install **WITHOUT** really repair installing. (a repair install would cause your windows updates to refuse to download "new" updates because it "thinks" they've already been downloaded; there's a command you can run to fix that though). Search google for "XP crashed? here's help" or something...
nvm here found it.

http://webcast.broadcastnewsroom.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=8658

[Lee13168]

I managed to fix the issue however i must say this was the most insanely retarded bios issue that has ever happen to me. I tried to reinstall xp which resulted in a blue screen upon booting from the cd. Which should not happen if was a windows issue. So then i thought i would try one last thing and flash to 2004. To my amazement it worked and the system booted up all fine. This issue has to be directly related to 2602 and i recommend everyone to stay away from it because i flashed using a safe way and it caused me a whole day of headaches. Downgrading bios several times did not fix the issue so i dont even know why the last try with 2004 worked but I'm just going to stay with 2004 unless some mind blowing bios comes out that can give me 380fsb with less than 1.75nbridge. I actually had to use 1.85 in order to break that wall with earlier bios versions.

[markq4xprt]

is it possible to xfire a 3870 on our p5wdh?
will it be both running 16x/16x or 16x/8x

[JEIROQ]

it's hard to say really, but you could start by raising the multi and dropping the fsb and then working back up to 400.

Well the multi is locked at 8 for the E6750 (from what I've read), how high can I raise the FSB?

[markq4xprt]

is it possible to xfire a 3870 on our p5wdh?
will it be both running 16x/16x or 16x/8x / 4x

also if i buy a 3870x2 how well will it perform?

[P5WDHdeluxe]

I managed to fix the issue however i must say this was the most insanely retarded bios issue that has ever happen to me. I tried to reinstall xp which resulted in a blue screen upon booting from the cd. Which should not happen if was a windows issue. So then i thought i would try one last thing and flash to 2004. To my amazement it worked and the system booted up all fine. This issue has to be directly related to 2602 and i recommend everyone to stay away from it because i flashed using a safe way and it caused me a whole day of headaches. Downgrading bios several times did not fix the issue so i dont even know why the last try with 2004 worked but I'm just going to stay with 2004 unless some mind blowing bios comes out that can give me 380fsb with less than 1.75nbridge. I actually had to use 1.85 in order to break that wall with earlier bios versions.
how did you manage to downgrade ?

[Random Murderer]

is it possible to xfire a 3870 on our p5wdh?
will it be both running 16x/16x or 16x/8x / 4x

also if i buy a 3870x2 how well will it perform?

please don't post the same thing multiple times.

yes, it is possible to crossfire 3870's on this board, they will run at 8x/8x.
it's hard to say how an x2 will perform without knowing what the other parts in the system are, but i'd be willing to bet the performance would be comparable to crossfired 3870's.

[markq4xprt]

please don't post the same thing multiple times.

yes, it is possible to crossfire 3870's on this board, they will run at 8x/8x.
it's hard to say how an x2 will perform without knowing what the other parts in the system are, but i'd be willing to bet the performance would be comparable to crossfired 3870's.

i see i forgot to use the edit


anyway

the other parts are
fsp 700 watts
asus p5w dh bios 2403
intel e6420 @ 3.2ghz oc`ed
tuniq tower with delta triblade high cfm
team xtreem dark 2x1g ddr II 800
1xseagate 750g 32mb
2xseagate 320g 16mb
3xwestern 320g 16mb

currently im using radeon x1600 pro golden
im wondering which is better since p5w-dh is pcie 1.0

2x 3870 xfire but as you stated it will run @ 8x only

or

1x 3870x2 but i havent found any p5w dh using this set up if they didnt have any problem on both cores

[Lurker246]

please don't post the same thing multiple times.

yes, it is possible to crossfire 3870's on this board, they will run at 8x/8x.
it's hard to say how an x2 will perform without knowing what the other parts in the system are, but i'd be willing to bet the performance would be comparable to crossfired 3870's.

On a similar note, I moved my 2900xt into the bottom PCI slot yesterday in preparation for Crossfire. Even though there's only one card in my system at the mo' it runs at 8x speed in the bottom slot.

I had to reset my HR-03 in order for the Crossfire bridge to work. The good news, previously I could run it at 870/1200 for benching. Now it's running at 901/1200 (1.3v PCIe 115mhz idle 50c load 65c). Whether it's improved airflow/reseating I'm not sure. What I can tell you is PCIe running at x8 didn't bottleneck the r600 at all.

Here's hoping Crossfire X runs on this board :D

[t_ski]

i see i forgot to use the edit


anyway

the other parts are
fsp 700 watts
asus p5w dh bios 2403
intel e6420 @ 3.2ghz oc`ed
tuniq tower with delta triblade high cfm
team xtreem dark 2x1g ddr II 800
1xseagate 750g 32mb
2xseagate 320g 16mb
3xwestern 320g 16mb

currently im using radeon x1600 pro golden
im wondering which is better since p5w-dh is pcie 1.0

2x 3870 xfire but as you stated it will run @ 8x only

or

1x 3870x2 but i havent found any p5w dh using this set up if they didnt have any problem on both cores

I have a P5W DH, an E6850 OCed to 3.6GHz, 2x1GB G.Skill HZ PC2-6400, and an HIS 3870X2. Performance is great for me. In 3DM06 I get 16103. With my old CrossFire set-up (E6850 @ stock, Dual HD2900XT) I got 14283. The 3870X2 is far more quiet with the stock cooler than the 2900's, and the idle power draw is way less, too.

[markq4xprt]

On a similar note, I moved my 2900xt into the bottom PCI slot yesterday in preparation for Crossfire. Even though there's only one card in my system at the mo' it runs at 8x speed in the bottom slot.

I had to reset my HR-03 in order for the Crossfire bridge to work. The good news, previously I could run it at 870/1200 for benching. Now it's running at 901/1200 (1.3v PCIe 115mhz idle 50c load 65c). Whether it's improved airflow/reseating I'm not sure. What I can tell you is PCIe running at x8 didn't bottleneck the r600 at all.

Here's hoping Crossfire X runs on this board :D


thanks for the reply

i guess if it didnt bottlececk your r600 well it might mean its ok to use 2 x 3870 :) also i have another problem after that is the hr-05sli will be touching the pcb board of the videocard

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/2275/img0446hz9.jpg

[markq4xprt]

I have a P5W DH, an E6850 OCed to 3.6GHz, 2x1GB G.Skill HZ PC2-6400, and an HIS 3870X2. Performance is great for me. In 3DM06 I get 16103. With my old CrossFire set-up (E6850 @ stock, Dual HD2900XT) I got 14283. The 3870X2 is far more quiet with the stock cooler than the 2900's, and the idle power draw is way less, too.

i see, is your 3870x2 oc`ed? can i see the gpu-z if you dont mind?

ive seen other scores hitting mid 17k-18k on 3d06 or maybe its just they are using penryn @ 4ghz oc`ed


by the way is gecube 3870x2 a decent card, because as of now its the only 3870x2 affordable here in my place

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/920/gec3870x204siy3.jpg

[Lurker246]

thanks for the reply

i guess if it didnt bottlececk your r600 well it might mean its ok to use 2 x 3870 :) also i have another problem after that is the hr-05sli will be touching the pcb board of the videocard



Nice lookin rig you got there....

That Thermalright stuff sure takes up a lot of motherboard space. The HR-05 may be overkill depending on the speed/stability of your FSB. The stock NB cooler + fan may be the best option if you can't manouver the HR-05 away from the PCB or CPU cooler.

[Lee13168]

how did you manage to downgrade ?

To downgrade i installed dos on my usb drive and flashed using a 2.27 version of fudos. 2.11 for me did not work however most people say thats the only one that can downgrade. If you want i can send you the files to make a dos flash drive and fudos.

[X7007]

As my last message goes about updating 2602, my computer didnt want to turn on again. it just didnt want to get video signal. i tried put everthing off, memory , video card, sound card (xfi) and it didnt even beep, so it means the motherboard has something wrong. it all started after flashing to 2602.

but as my old story goes i didnt touch my puter for 18hr offline with out connection from wall electricy. and i tried to turn it and it went on.

but now it happend again, is there anyway i could revert to old bios ?

becuase i have no idea what to do. this bios didnt something wrong or it's wrong from the first place.

Please S.O.S, need help.

Thanx :confused:

[Lee13168]

As my last message goes about updating 2602, my computer didnt want to turn on again. it just didnt want to get video signal. i tried put everthing off, memory , video card, sound card (xfi) and it didnt even beep, so it means the motherboard has something wrong. it all started after flashing to 2602.

but as my old story goes i didnt touch my puter for 18hr offline with out connection from wall electricy. and i tried to turn it and it went on.

but now it happend again, is there anyway i could revert to old bios ?

becuase i have no idea what to do. this bios didnt something wrong or it's wrong from the first place.

Please S.O.S, need help.

Thanx :confused:

Lol i warned everyone about this son of a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: bios. Anyways simply boot into dos and flash to an earlier version using afudos. Fixed it for me after about 50 flashes.

[X7007]

Lol i warned everyone about this son of a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: bios. Anyways simply boot into dos and flash to an earlier version using afudos. Fixed it for me after about 50 flashes.

W8 m8, but my mb doesnt show video signal, how can i boot to older using the CrashFree bios 3 from within the mb ?

just to burn it on cd or to usb ? to put the name of the bios to P5DH.rom ?

so it means the mobo is not dead at least, just help me to flash it again. please.

**I dont have a floppy connected. What are the ways to update, i just can rma or do anything, i will have to buy new mobo if nothing works, and i will be left with a lost of more than 279$ non work hardware and will need to install and do everything all over, it just unreasoble because of a little bios. Please i need help.

[Lee13168]

My issue was different from yours however bios flashing managed to solve it. I really cant help you with the no video signal but if you do manage to get it to work again i can show you how to get dos on a usb. Also try taking out your cpu that solved the problem for someone before.

[markq4xprt]

Nice lookin rig you got there....

That Thermalright stuff sure takes up a lot of motherboard space. The HR-05 may be overkill depending on the speed/stability of your FSB. The stock NB cooler + fan may be the best option if you can't manouver the HR-05 away from the PCB or CPU cooler.

thanks


i guess so because im not running it for 400+ fsb, theres no way to manouver it coz in any angle it will touch the board of the video card


btw how can i enable 4g on this board?

it only recognize 3.5g of ram all mems are identical, even when im on windows xp nor vista or i need to update my bios and change 64 bit os?

[t_ski]

i see, is your 3870x2 oc`ed? can i see the gpu-z if you dont mind?

ive seen other scores hitting mid 17k-18k on 3d06 or maybe its just they are using penryn @ 4ghz oc`ed


by the way is gecube 3870x2 a decent card, because as of now its the only 3870x2 affordable here in my place

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/920/gec3870x204siy3.jpg

No, my 3870X2 is running at stock speed. I haven't been able to OC it yet due to lack of time and the CCC Auto-tune locks up after a while (I suspect my system more than the card because it did that with the 2900's also).

I don't have a GPU-z shot as of right now - I'll see if I can get you one if you still need it.

As far as the GeCube goes, if the numbers look the same as other 3870X2's then go for it. I know some manufacturer's have lower clocks, which is why I went with the HIS.

[markq4xprt]

No, my 3870X2 is running at stock speed. I haven't been able to OC it yet due to lack of time and the CCC Auto-tune locks up after a while (I suspect my system more than the card because it did that with the 2900's also).

I don't have a GPU-z shot as of right now - I'll see if I can get you one if you still need it.

As far as the GeCube goes, if the numbers look the same as other 3870X2's then go for it. I know some manufacturer's have lower clocks, which is why I went with the HIS.

i see, ill just ask other owners of the gecube if hows they`re gpu/mem temperatures

[t_ski]

Here's the GPU-z

[markq4xprt]

thanks for the screen shot

im quite confused why does it only shows 28.8gb/s bandwidth and gpu 411/450mhz

on the other hand

a friend of mine xfired a 3870

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i55/cris_wh/tipidpc/175113DMark06.jpg

[Lurker246]

thanks


i guess so because im not running it for 400+ fsb, theres no way to manouver it coz in any angle it will touch the board of the video card


btw how can i enable 4g on this board?

it only recognize 3.5g of ram all mems are identical, even when im on windows xp nor vista or i need to update my bios and change 64 bit os?

In the bios there's an option to "enable memory remap" I think it's in chipset configuration. Only a 64-bit OS will see the full 4GB.

[Reefa_Madness]

W8 m8, but my mb doesnt show video signal, how can i boot to older using the CrashFree bios 3 from within the mb ?

just to burn it on cd or to usb ? to put the name of the bios to P5DH.rom ?

so it means the mobo is not dead at least, just help me to flash it again. please.

**I dont have a floppy connected. What are the ways to update, i just can rma or do anything, i will have to buy new mobo if nothing works, and i will be left with a lost of more than 279$ non work hardware and will need to install and do everything all over, it just unreasoble because of a little bios. Please i need help.

Have you given consideration to trying to buy a new BIOS chip directly from Asus with the BIOS that you want pre-loaded? Most major brands will sell BIOS chips for $10-$15.

Cheaper alternative than buying a new motherboard. :)

[Reefa_Madness]

In the bios there's an option to "enable memory remap" I think it's in chipset configuration. Only a 64-bit OS will see the full 4GB.

To add to your post...this is the screen where it is located. It is disabled by default.

I have a friend using this motherboard, along with 4 gigs of Ballistix, and even with this enabled, he still only sees 2GB of ram.

What else might he look at in order to get his 32-bit XP OS to see the rest of the ram?

[markq4xprt]

In the bios there's an option to "enable memory remap" I think it's in chipset configuration. Only a 64-bit OS will see the full 4GB.

i see so it isnt fixed in vista sp1


thanks

[aNDY^aND]

What else might he look at in order to get his 32-bit XP OS to see the rest of the ram?
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/server/PAE/PAEmem.mspx

[Random Murderer]

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/server/PAE/PAEmem.mspx

that's a nice concept, however microsoft removed the usefulness of pae in xp after xp sp1. for some reason it caused instability, so rather than fixing it they disabled it. not sure if it works under vista though.

[shaithis]

I have a friend using this motherboard, along with 4 gigs of Ballistix, and even with this enabled, he still only sees 2GB of ram.

What else might he look at in order to get his 32-bit XP OS to see the rest of the ram?

If he has a lot of other hardware in the PC, that might be his limit....

Every piece of memory in the PC has to sit in the range that the PC can address, for 32bit OSes, that is 4GB. If you have 2 x 8800GTX (for example) you will be down to 2.5GB available before you take any other hardware into account.....

[t_ski]

thanks for the screen shot

im quite confused why does it only shows 28.8gb/s bandwidth and gpu 411/450mhz

It appears the default GPU selected was the secondary. If I changed the GPU (bottom left of first tab), the core speeds go up. IDK about the bandwidth. My guess is either an error by W1zzard in the GPU-z program, or add the two GPU's together for the full speed (28.8gb/s x 2).

[Lurker246]

It appears the default GPU selected was the secondary. If I changed the GPU (bottom left of first tab), the core speeds go up. IDK about the bandwidth. My guess is either an error by W1zzard in the GPU-z program, or add the two GPU's together for the full speed (28.8gb/s x 2).

Just got my second 2900xt today. GPU-Z won't read the overclock at all on either card. I'm running the HR-03 at 858/1153 and the other 803/1140 (stock cooler). GPU-Z reports both as stock even though I know there overclocked.

I've had some time to play with the latest BIOS and it's let me run at 3.2 Ghz 356 X 9. Only 3dmark tested so far although xp has been running without problems for the last couple of hours but I'm going to leave it fold overnight to test for stability.

Managed to hit 17181 in 3dMark with 2 x 2900xt 1gb with the overclock above:D :

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5330595

[markq4xprt]

It appears the default GPU selected was the secondary. If I changed the GPU (bottom left of first tab), the core speeds go up. IDK about the bandwidth. My guess is either an error by W1zzard in the GPU-z program, or add the two GPU's together for the full speed (28.8gb/s x 2).

i see im quite relieved by that :D i thought it was a bottle neck

[markq4xprt]

Just got my second 2900xt today. GPU-Z won't read the overclock at all on either card. I'm running the HR-03 at 858/1153 and the other 803/1140 (stock cooler). GPU-Z reports both as stock even though I know there overclocked.

I've had some time to play with the latest BIOS and it's let me run at 3.2 Ghz 356 X 9. Only 3dmark tested so far although xp has been running without problems for the last couple of hours but I'm going to leave it fold overnight to test for stability.

Managed to hit 17181 in 3dMark with 2 x 2900xt 1gb with the overclock above:D :

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5330595

wow nice, it seems that gpu-z is really a bit buggy, btw hd 4xxx might come in june omg cant decide what to buy :confused:

[X7007]

PLEASE HELP

i succed to run the mobo, i updated the same bios asus EZ-update 2602. now i am AFRAID to turn it OFF. i connected almost everything but i didnt connected the DvD-RW and now i cant run from DOS to Reflash older version 2504. Can i connect the DVDRW to pc when its on ? its SAMSUNG DVD SATA 203B. Its my only chance or to get USB DVDRW.

i need it to get to DOS and reflash.

Will it ruin anything ?? I REPEAT, I CANNOT TURN THE PC OFF, it might not turn on !.

S.O.S please Urgent help.

I CANNOT BELIEVE ASUS WILL RELEASE SUCH BIOS !! IT JUST UNBELIEVBLE, WHAT WILL HAPPEN THE NEXT BIOS ?? i dont know if it could be the PSU or the MOBO itself nor the BIOS VER.


**** FIXED*** I connected the DVD+RW and it worked , i flashed using the USB FLASH and finally got 2504.

now everything runs Perfect.

Now for the problem, could it be because i used from Vista to Update ? or the bios is total :banana::banana::banana::banana: ?

[Reefa_Madness]

If he has a lot of other hardware in the PC, that might be his limit....

Every piece of memory in the PC has to sit in the range that the PC can address, for 32bit OSes, that is 4GB. If you have 2 x 8800GTX (for example) you will be down to 2.5GB available before you take any other hardware into account.....

He has a single 8800 GTS card with 640MB of memory, if I recall correctly. Seems like he should be showing at least 2.5GB available, but only shows 2 GB.

that's a nice concept, however microsoft removed the usefulness of pae in xp after xp sp1. for some reason it caused instability, so rather than fixing it they disabled it

That was my understanding, as well. Beginning with SP2 the feature was disabled. He has SP2 on his system.

It doesn't make sense, so it must just be something simple that is being overlooked.

[TuTu]

I have a problem. My dvd drive's have low burst rates and when I burn dvd's they sometimes have pauses in them now. this is something that just somehow happened in the past couple weeks. i put my pc together a year ago and haven't had any such problems before. i suck at troubleshooting. any ideas on what I should do? i've backed up all my important stuff onto an external so i'm ready to do a fresh install of windows. i just really don't want to do it unless i have to.

[lawrywild]

I have a problem. My dvd drive's have low burst rates and when I burn dvd's they sometimes have pauses in them now. this is something that just somehow happened in the past couple weeks. i put my pc together a year ago and haven't had any such problems before. i suck at troubleshooting. any ideas on what I should do? i've backed up all my important stuff onto an external so i'm ready to do a fresh install of windows. i just really don't want to do it unless i have to.

What are your burst rates according to Nero CD/DVD/Disc Speed? (In the Benchmark (Transfer Rate Test) tab)

Mine are about 29 MB/s through IDE on this board (UDMA 4).

[TuTu]

My liteon is udma 4 and it's burst rate is only 23 mb. They all seem about 5-6mb lower than they should be. My Benq is udma 2 and is only 17mb burst when it should be 23mb. i was looking into updating or reinstalling ide drivers but i don't even know how or if that will help. My samsung sata burner is in the low 30's when it should be in the upper 30's burst rate.

[TuTu]

i googled and found out how to install microsoft drivers for the ide instead of the intel ones. it made no difference. still same low burst rate. i'll try changing the ide cable later tonight. besides that, is there anything else I can try before the final resort of reinstalling windows? i'm starting to think that reinstalling windows won't help and it's a mobo problem.

[secretworld]

AFAIK, speed should be between 16-33mb, it´s never the top possible speed, but somewhere between one step lower and indicated.
23 burst is fine and plenty for a removable optical disc.
Mine here are 24mb/s for a dvd rom drive and 18mb/s for a CDR/RW (both P5W).
Really, don´t worry about it, it´s a waste of time. (or money if your gonna invest in new mobo´s and drives for just, if your lucky, a few mb/s more).
Vincent

I tried on my other computer, DVDrw, and got 23mb/s (asus K8V-X)

[nicko]

Did you try change a cable?

[X7007]

Does someone have a Segate 500GB 32MB Cache drive using P5WDH Deluxe with 2504 bios ? the hardisk has S015 Firmware, so it does not have the Cache problem.

because when using AHCI and with Intel Matrox manager driver the Hardisk freezes when trying to copying to or copying from this hardisk, in XP it works without a problem. and all other hardisk does not have problems, and my friend bought the same hardisk with me in the same time, i dont think it a hardisk fault because it works nore to do with AHCI. but he has Gigabyte DQ3 P35 chip and he uses AHCI without a problem. What could be the mainfest here? he uses Vista 64bit too.

only in Vista 64bit it freezes and i need to restart using the reset, the hardisk shows Steady L-e-d without flashing it just glow without doing nothing. but i cannot close the copying windows or extracting windows from winrar or whatsoever.

[phoeniXfury]

Does anyone have a Q6600 G0 on the P5W DH board? I've heard that voltage management on the 975X is giving problems on quads.

I've had my E6600 at 9x400 or 3.6Ghz 24/7 at 55-58C load temps. So the board can do the FSB and I know it has more cus I ran that chip at 3.87 for Pi 1M before my cooling gave up on me cus of the voltage.

The Q6600 I have will not go over 3.06Ghz! at which I have idle temp 29C. At that speed I can't even complete 3DMark 06. 3.15Ghz will not boot to windows no matter what voltage.:confused:

I'm seriously considering the DFI X38 or ASUS Maximus.

[renozi]

I have a Q6600 G0 with this board and I can't seem to change the vcore! This is so frustrating! I've read through the last 5-6 pages of this tread but every time someone who has this exact same problem brings it up, no one here can seem to help. :(

Another thing is I can't downgrade my bios through EZ flash anymore because it doesn't work. It just sits there and none of the usual A:\ or C:\ would show up, in fact only the box that shows what bios i have shows up. The two big boxes in the middle are blank.

My E6700 that this new Q6600 replace was able to change the vcore in bios, but the EZ flash problem was still there. This sucks. :(

[phoeniXfury]

It's really odd with this board...I flashed with the new 2602 BIOS from my old 1503...

Vcore adjustment on this board requires that you turn off EIST and C1E....it's odd that intel speed step option does not always appear under the CPU page...but play around with the settings and reboot a few times if u don't see that option...once it appears...disable it. You'll have access to Vcore then.

Let me know how it goes cus if I can get this Q6600 to work at close to 4Ghz on this board...I'd be a happy camper. Otherwise I gotta shell out over 200 for a new board.

[renozi]

It's really odd with this board...I flashed with the new 2602 BIOS from my old 1503...

Vcore adjustment on this board requires that you turn off EIST and C1E....it's odd that intel speed step option does not always appear under the CPU page...but play around with the settings and reboot a few times if u don't see that option...once it appears...disable it. You'll have access to Vcore then.

Let me know how it goes cus if I can get this Q6600 to work at close to 4Ghz on this board...I'd be a happy camper. Otherwise I gotta shell out over 200 for a new board.

for bios 2602 i think you have to disable the multiplier change thingy to see intel speed step. I did this several times and speed step would show up and i would disable it along with C1E but still can't change vcore. It still says "auto" as the only option. I just want to get to 3.6GHz! :(

[lawrywild]

for bios 2602 i think you have to disable the multiplier change thingy to see intel speed step. I did this several times and speed step would show up and i would disable it along with C1E but still can't change vcore. It still says "auto" as the only option. I just want to get to 3.6GHz! :(

Use afudos 2.17 in DOS to flash to 2403.

afudos /i2403.ROM /pbnc

Use a floppy drive or a usb stick with a boot sector on it. (google)

[bichi]

LiteOn Burst Speed and P5WDH, 1.02g; BIOS 2602
- have never seen burst deviations with last 5 BIOS'es and older LiteOn drives, back to 165H6S series
- both drives connected to INTEL Primary IDE, UDMA Mode 4, master: 20A4P; slave: 20A1H
- 80-wire
- CDSpeed v4.7.7.5 (as well as older versions)

DH-20A4P-08C - Retail - Sept 07 - China - MOD CAP
9P57: 37~39mbits/sec (RW media: 25~28mbits/sec)
9P59: 39~42mbits/sec

LH-20A1H-186C - Retail - Dec 06 - MOD 3
LL0A to LL06: 39~42mbits/sec (RW media: 25~28mbits/sec)

Posted tests with burst speed results, seen at:

Lite-On DH-20A4P - Post your scans here
- one of many of my posts:
http://club.cdfreaks.com/f44/lite-dh-20a4p-post-your-scans-here-231051/index21.html#post2002563

thread:
http://club.cdfreaks.com/f44/lite-dh-20a4p-post-your-scans-here-231051/


LiteOn DH20A4P/H Fast Burn, Enhanced OverSpeed & Enhanced OHT Patched Firmware
- one of many of my posts:
http://club.cdfreaks.com/1996533-post288.html

thread:
http://club.cdfreaks.com/f44/liteon-dh20a4p-h-fast-burn-enhanced-overspeed-enhanced-oht-firmware-new-231875/

[bichi]

FYI:
- noticed a small noise floor increase during X-FI Elite (SB0550) testing/mods and P5WDH BIOS 2602. (system specs in sig below)
- see across RMAA v6.0.6 tests, THD, THD+Noise, etc.
- installing older BIOS, 2406 fixed issue.
- theory might be processor PWM control code for newer processor support might be cause.

More of a "curiosity" than an operational problem.

RMAA Test Result:
http://www.esnips.com/doc/ff7268ae-8cfd-4855-afff-d224dd1c8f27/X-FI-MOD-104

[P5WDHdeluxe]

Anyone knows if Xigmatek S1283 fits, with no problems on our board?

[renozi]

Use afudos 2.17 in DOS to flash to 2403.

afudos /i2403.ROM /pbnc

Use a floppy drive or a usb stick with a boot sector on it. (google)

Thanks lawrywild, but it didn't work with bios 2403 or your custom 2004. This sucks. I don't know why i can't change the vcore.

[AeroSquid]

I've been running BIOS 1503 for more than a year with an E6300@2.8-3.0 on air. It is stable and has been great. I snapped up a Q6600 for $199 at microcenter tonight on a whim. I would like a BIOS recommendation... which one should I use? Looking for a good mix of overclockability and stability. Thanks :)

[t_ski]

Anyone knows if Xigmatek S1283 fits, with no problems on our board?

I tested one on there and it was OK. As long as you dont have a PSU or anything right up against the top of the mobo you should be fine having it blow towards the rear. If not, there's always having it blow upward.

[Random Murderer]

i run one on mine, no problems.

[P5WDHdeluxe]

I tested one on there and it was OK. As long as you dont have a PSU or anything right up against the top of the mobo you should be fine having it blow towards the rear. If not, there's always having it blow upward.
my psu (enermax liberty) is excactly where you say... right up against the top of the mobo... will i have problems with this heatsink?
i would like to mount it in order to blow towards the rear... so my mosfets will get an amount of blowing air...

[Random Murderer]

my psu (enermax liberty) is excactly where you say... right up against the top of the mobo... will i have problems with this heatsink?
i would like to mount it in order to blow towards the rear... so my mosfets will get an amount of blowing air...

lol, i have an enermax liberty 620. no problems. the top of the heatsink doesn't even reach past the top of the motherboard.

[P5WDHdeluxe]

lol, i have an enermax liberty 620. no problems. the top of the heatsink doesn't even reach past the top of the motherboard.
one last info...
will i be able to mount this heatsink without removing my mobo from the case?
is there smthg that you would like to advice me, during the installation of this heatsink?

[Random Murderer]

one last info...
will i be able to mount this heatsink without removing my mobo from the case?
is there smthg that you would like to advice me, during the installation of this heatsink?

unless there's some sort of backplate beneath the mobo right now(for example, if you're using a zalman), there's no need to remove the board, just push the pins in.
as far as advice goes, yea, i got a bit. mount the cooler without the fan attached. to make attaching the fan easier, have a pair of needlenose pliers handy. line up the little nubs in their respective holes on the fan and pull on the nubs with the pliers while pushing the fan towards the heatsink. took me all of 15 minutes to pull out my old cooler, clean the chip, apply TIM, put the xigmatek in, and put the fan on.

[phoeniXfury]

i run one on mine, no problems.

Hey Random Murderer...question for you. Your CPU is validated for over 3Ghz? How did you manage that? What BIOS version and what's your CPU voltage?

I get stuck at 3Ghz unstable on the Q6600 G0 in windows with an idle temperature of 25C...more voltage doesn't help at all. My E6600 ran at 3.6Ghz with old BIOS version of 1503...which I think was a little unstable with 2602.

[Random Murderer]

Hey Random Murderer...question for you. Your CPU is validated for over 3Ghz? How did you manage that? What BIOS version and what's your CPU voltage?

I get stuck at 3Ghz unstable on the Q6600 G0 in windows with an idle temperature of 25C...more voltage doesn't help at all. My E6600 ran at 3.6Ghz with old BIOS version of 1503...which I think was a little unstable with 2602.

do you have some sort of instant messaging program? pm me.:up:

[TuTu]

I changed the cable and no difference. ok, i did a fresh install and it was a big waste of time. i found that the burst rates are inconsistent. sometimes my drives get the normal burst rate and other times it's too low. what doest this mean? bad mobo or power supply? it's not drivers or software related i think. MY liteon 20a4p gets either 43 or 23 mb. I'll do a burst rate test several times in a row and get inconsistent results. How would it change from 23 to 43 and then back to 23 in consecutive tests?

AFAIK, speed should be between 16-33mb, it´s never the top possible speed, but somewhere between one step lower and indicated.
23 burst is fine and plenty for a removable optical disc.
Mine here are 24mb/s for a dvd rom drive and 18mb/s for a CDR/RW (both P5W).
Really, don´t worry about it, it´s a waste of time. (or money if your gonna invest in new mobo´s and drives for just, if your lucky, a few mb/s more).
Vincent

I tried on my other computer, DVDrw, and got 23mb/s (asus K8V-X)

[secretworld]

Could also be a fault of the testing application! It uses a relative short testing period, so small variations, can have large impact on the result.
Still I think burst rate for optical drives is overrated.
Do you have any real world problems with the drive(s)?

[travisc]

I'm running a B3 Q6600 on my P5W with bios 2602.... running 356x9 = 3.2ghz @ 1.35v... 4x1gb DDR2-800 GSkill 5-4-3-4 @ 2.1v (spec)

I've tried going 400x8, 400x7, 400x6... and it fails to boot at all... I've got Hyperpath3 disabled, i've tried enabling SPD... i've tried raising mch voltage to 1.65, still not booting... Any advice?

[Random Murderer]

I'm running a B3 Q6600 on my P5W with bios 2602.... running 356x9 = 3.2ghz @ 1.35v... 4x1gb DDR2-800 GSkill 5-4-3-4 @ 2.1v (spec)

I've tried going 400x8, 400x7, 400x6... and it fails to boot at all... I've got Hyperpath3 disabled, i've tried enabling SPD... i've tried raising mch voltage to 1.65, still not booting... Any advice?

It's a b3. don't expect 400 FSB out of it.

[travisc]

You running an older Bx also? what voltages are you running? just to give me some ideas to try.

[Random Murderer]

You running an older Bx also? what voltages are you running? just to give me some ideas to try.

yea, i'm on a b3. i had to set it to 1.4275 vcore in the bios to get 3.3.

[JEIROQ]

I don't know if my last post got overlooked or what..

I have an E6750 oc'ed to 3.2GHz right now on air, with really good temps, I'd like to go up to 3.4 then maybe to 3.6 and see how well it takes it.

The E6750 has a locked multi at 8x, I know to get to 3.4 I need a FSB of 425, right? And for 3.6 I'd need 450. What voltages should I start at for these?

[Random Murderer]

I don't know if my last post got overlooked or what..

I have an E6750 oc'ed to 3.2GHz right now on air, with really good temps, I'd like to go up to 3.4 then maybe to 3.6 and see how well it takes it.

The E6750 has a locked multi at 8x, I know to get to 3.4 I need a FSB of 425, right? And for 3.6 I'd need 450. What voltages should I start at for these?

it didn't get overlooked. that's just a tough question. different chips use different silicon. you and i could(hypothetically) have two consecutively manufactured chips, and while you're sitting at 4 GHz, mine might not reach 3.5. No two chips are the same.

[JEIROQ]

Thanks for the answer. So should I just start for 3.4, and see if I can get it to work? If not, I can always go back down to previous stable settings. I'll post after a while and let you guys know.

[Lurker246]

Q6600 G0, 2602 bios was not stable for me at 356 X 9 1.35v. It's game stable (will last a couple of hours but guaranteed a random reboot which is annoying in the middle of a TF2 match :mad: ).

Tried everything to get it stable, spd, vmch, etc.. no joy- so I'm back on 333 X 9 24 hour stable auto volts.

[markq4xprt]

what could be the problem on my p5w dh

whenever i shutdown it always restart

things ive tried
* bios upgrade
* bios downgrade
* cmos reset
* disable power on by keyboard,mouse, lan etc

ive remove any usb device on the usb 3&4 "the one for the usb remote" and now it doesnt restart after shutdown

its just happen just now but my setup is working fine before for almost 1yr

+ used multitester on the usb port and ive found out when its on standby mode it only emits 2-3v and when i turn it on it goes to 4.5-5v which is normaly before even on standby it should give me a 5v

so does my usb port is busted?

[secretworld]

what could be the problem on my p5w dh

whenever i shutdown it always restart

things ive tried
* bios upgrade
* bios downgrade
* cmos reset
* disable power on by keyboard,mouse, lan etc

ive remove any usb device on the usb 3&4 "the one for the usb remote" and now it doesnt restart after shutdown

its just happen just now but my setup is working fine before for almost 1yr

+ used multitester on the usb port and ive found out when its on standby mode it only emits 2-3v and when i turn it on it goes to 4.5-5v which is normaly before even on standby it should give me a 5v

so does my usb port is busted?

Same here, only not always. I havn´t found a solution nor a 100% way to always cause it. Sorry that I´m of no help, but you're not alone!

[markq4xprt]

Same here, only not always. I havn´t found a solution nor a 100% way to always cause it. Sorry that I´m of no help, but you're not alone!

i see , so i have no choice but to have mine for rma, but before i have it rma`ed ill try to trace what is the problem


thanks anyway

[t_ski]

Shutdown issues are usually related to Windows and drivers. Try searching the Microsoft Knowledge Base for more information.

[markq4xprt]

Shutdown issues are usually related to Windows and drivers. Try searching the Microsoft Knowledge Base for more information.

i think mine is not a windows driver issue, becaues although its on standby the usb ports are only 2-3v and which is unusual from before and also tried my friends p5w dh but his usb port even on standby is maintained to 4.80-5.09v


and also ive tried xp sp2, vista ulti 32 w/c is my default setup way way back before but it doesnt give me this problems

[MacClipper]

tried another power supply yet?

[markq4xprt]

yep i tried it on other p5w as well, vice versa psu and motherboard still it occurs only to my board

[DrSlump]

Hey Random Murderer...question for you. Your CPU is validated for over 3Ghz? How did you manage that? What BIOS version and what's your CPU voltage?

I get stuck at 3Ghz unstable on the Q6600 G0 in windows with an idle temperature of 25C...more voltage doesn't help at all. My E6600 ran at 3.6Ghz with old BIOS version of 1503...which I think was a little unstable with 2602.

Welcome to the club: over 328Mhz fsb, i get an unstable system. No matter the voltage used.

[gritty]

Question please.

In the standard motherboard setup (no ahci), is the rear panel e-sata really an e-sata port or just a standard port? If I plug a e-sata drive into this port when the computer is on, am I taking a chance of corrupting the e-sata drive or risking damaging the MB?

Not really clear about how the e-sata works in the standard setup. :shrug:

Thank you

[Donseba]

Does this mother have 1t/2t option to change in bios ? i have a problem, i have a supertalent blue 2x1gb at 5-5-5-15 2.0v 800mhz and the memtest 3.6 of windows show two errors at 8 hours approximately, but if i change de timings at 4-4-3-8 the errors are show in lower time, i think that the problem is a configuration of the bios, the timings, fsb of this motherboard maybe? (now i have setted in 400 but the processor is stable) or the ram are broken, i don´t know, help please

and what do the option "write recovery time"? how can i know what is the best clock for my RAM

thanks.

[Chrysalis]

I managed to fix the issue however i must say this was the most insanely retarded bios issue that has ever happen to me. I tried to reinstall xp which resulted in a blue screen upon booting from the cd. Which should not happen if was a windows issue. So then i thought i would try one last thing and flash to 2004. To my amazement it worked and the system booted up all fine. This issue has to be directly related to 2602 and i recommend everyone to stay away from it because i flashed using a safe way and it caused me a whole day of headaches. Downgrading bios several times did not fix the issue so i dont even know why the last try with 2004 worked but I'm just going to stay with 2004 unless some mind blowing bios comes out that can give me 380fsb with less than 1.75nbridge. I actually had to use 1.85 in order to break that wall with earlier bios versions.

I also had problems with the newer bios's including a hard freeze but I think not many people took notice :( 2004 rock solid.

[imgeorgelin]

Hi All,

I'm having a major problem with my rig: Every time I try to reboot after shutting down, I cannot past the post screen by being stuck at the Welcome screen. The only way that I can boot up again is to reset the bios.

It all started about a couple of months back with frequent "Checking NVRAM" deaths and I had to do the same thing. Then I figured it might be the BIOS and I updated to 2504, no help; then I figured it might be the power supply, changed it, no help. Finally, I found that one of the ram seems to have a problem, I took that away, it worked! But not for long. Now I'm out of luck.... Is it because my overclocking?

Configuration: P5W DH Deluxe BIOS 2504
CPU: Intel C2D E4400 Overclocked to 3GHz
Memory: Buffalo Firestix 3GB DDR2-600 4-4-4-11 2.1v
Power Supply: Corsair 750W-TX

Help please!!!! Thanks!

George

[mikepaul]

In the standard motherboard setup (no ahci), is the rear panel e-sata really an e-sata port or just a standard port? If I plug a e-sata drive into this port when the computer is on, am I taking a chance of corrupting the e-sata drive or risking damaging the MB?
I only used my eSATA box for a while, then moved the drive inside my PC when I found myself leaving the enclosure on all day when the PC was off.

It worked fine when I plugged it in hot. The other JMicron SATA connector near there is the only other one I found that worked hot. If you attach an eSATA adapter like the one that came with my enclosure to the other SATA ports, you will have to reboot to have the drive recognized. It also gets lonely if you disconnect the drive: the PC seizes up every once in a while looking for the drive to respond.

I now use SATA trays (http://www.startech.com/Product/ItemDetail.aspx?c=US&productid=HSB100SATBK) instead, one is for backing up the PC with a pile of 500GB drives I've collected, and another is there for when I decide to fill it permanently. There's no fan on that though, so I'm going to work on that before I use it all the time. Lucky for me the SATA RAID adapter I bought at Best Buy also hot-swaps, so with it set to Big and only one drive on it, I can hot-swap either tray...

[Snatch]

Hi everyone,

I'm trying to set up RAID on this board......what a PITA....

I tried it like this
Don't make setting up a raid on the ICH7 harder than it is. It is absolutely easy to do this. For those about to try this there is nothing to it!!!
First if you have no other computer around to put the driver onto a floppy it's ok.
just put in your CD that came with your board and it will give you the option to use "Make disc" This will load the raid drivers onto the floppy

Now enter bios. On the "Main" page scroll down to "IDE Configuration"
High light it and hit enter. This will open up a sub box. You are only concerned
about the first item click on it and switch from IDE to RAID. Your done
Hit F10 and enter. As your sytem starts to boot get ready and when prompted hit CTRL + I both together. This will open up your raid builder
First name your raid setup. Mine is "Welder" then decide on the block size and so on. When finished hit the Y and enter. When it restarts this time have your windows disc in and your floppy at the ready.
Windows will look over your configuration then you will be prompted to hit F-6
if you have any 3rd party devices . you now hit F6 i always give it a few taps.
Probably not necessary but I do. Soon you will be prompted to decide whether you want to install any 3rd party devices. YOU DO!, so hit "S" the insert your floppy disc and hit enter. A list will come up for you to go through. you want the ICH7 but there are 3 to choose from!!
The first is ICH7 for Notebooks
The Second is ICH7 (RAID) for Desktops
The Third will say ICH7 AHCI for Desktops..
MAKE SURE you Choose "ICH7 RAID for Desktops" and hit enter As the windows loading process continues I do the slow format. You can do the quick.

you will while installing windows get a couple alerts that your software does not meet Microsoft's BS just hit ignore and keep installing. Then another will come up saying that your raid drivers has not passed window's BS just ignore and keep loading Windows and soon you wioll be validating and putting on over 100 updates including SP2 and IE7 and WMP11 and you will need WME to run PCmarks and don't forget your Virus scanner. And it will all be good.
I have this fresh in my mind cuz i just set up a raid and finished the last update about 30minutes ago.
Remember, Don't over think this stuff. It is all very easy. I have installed all the necessities off the P5W DH disc now I need to put on some utilities and do a little straigfhtening of this little baby's files

Good luck to you and Remember to chose correctly between 32bit and 64bit drivers

Keep it Simple!!

WZ

but when I start installing windows and prompts me to press F6 I have no power in the keyboard....it powers on when windows starts installing(when it asks if you want to install XP, repair or quit).
I just can't figure out how to load the RAID drivers.
I have 2 500 GB 7200.11s in the 2 black SATA connectors(SATA 3 and 4). I tried to leave the jumper on or taking it off...same :banana::banana::banana::banana:.

Any ideas before I torch this mother:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::ban ana:??

Thanks fellas.

[~aoe~]

Hi everyone,

I'm trying to set up RAID on this board......what a PITA....

I tried it like this


but when I start installing windows and prompts me to press F6 I have no power in the keyboard....it powers on when windows starts installing(when it asks if you want to install XP, repair or quit).
I just can't figure out how to load the RAID drivers.
I have 2 500 GB 7200.11s in the 2 black SATA connectors(SATA 3 and 4). I tried to leave the jumper on or taking it off...same :banana::banana::banana::banana:.

Any ideas before I torch this mother:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::ban ana:??

Thanks fellas.

I'm guessing you have a USB keyboard. If you have a PS2 keyboard, use that for the install. If not, then check you have 'Legacy USB' enabled - this 'should' allow the USB keyboard to be recognised during the install.

Alternatively, you could slipstream the RAID drivers onto the WinXP installation CD with nLite (http://www.nliteos.com/).

[Snatch]

I just bought a PS2 keyboard from the thrift store....wasted 3 dollars.

Now the kb has power during the install(num luck light is on all the time) but still teh system doesn't respond when I hit F6.
After that it prompts you to press F2 if you want to start automatic system recovery...when I press F2 it works....un:banana::banana::banana::banana:ingbeli avable

any other ideas?

thanks

[Godsmack]

hello everybody,

i got my E8500 and change to bios 2602...my board revision is 1.02 (the old one)
i´m not able to fix the multi manually at 9,5...i can´t select the half mutli...
also the vcore only works at AUTO...manually i can select 1,45 to 1,7...but it doesn´t work, if i select 1,45V...

does anybody know the problems?

thanks godsmack

[lawrywild]

Half multi's don't exist on Intel.. only AMD

Don't know about your vcore problem.

I updated to 2602 yesterday, works OK except that EIST doesn't seem to work on it's own anymore. I needed to enable C1E too. 2406 worked fine with just EIST enabled..

[~aoe~]

That's no longer true. The new E8x00 processors from Intel now use half multis.

Eg. E8500 runs on 9.5 multi @ 333Mhz = 3.16GHz.

I think the board will require a new BIOS to handle this. Whether Asus will provide one or not is another question.

[lawrywild]

Oh ok, haven't been paying much attention recently :P

EDIT: But surely this will be a chipset issue. I'm pretty certain 975x can't run half multis..

[~aoe~]

I think you're right.

Just checked compatibility on Intel's website and their 975 chipset is not compatible with the E8500 processor.

[~aoe~]

I just bought a PS2 keyboard from the thrift store....wasted 3 dollars.

Now the kb has power during the install(num luck light is on all the time) but still teh system doesn't respond when I hit F6.
After that it prompts you to press F2 if you want to start automatic system recovery...when I press F2 it works....un:banana::banana::banana::banana:ingbeli avable

any other ideas?

thanks

Very strange :confused:.

Did you try to add the drivers onto the WinXP installation CD?

[Godsmack]

the bios recognize the E8500 and it´s using the 9,5 multi...but in the bios i onley can switch between 6-9 multi...9,5 doesn´t available...
actualley my system runs with 9,5*380...

i hope asus will published an new bios wich give better support to EIST, C1E, manually vcore settibgs and 9,5 mutli ;)

[Donseba]

Does this mother have 1t/2t option to change in bios ? i have a problem, i have a supertalent blue 2x1gb at 5-5-5-15 2.0v 800mhz and the memtest 3.6 of windows show two errors at 8 hours approximately, but if i change de timings at 4-4-3-8 the errors are show in lower time, i think that the problem is a configuration of the bios, the timings, fsb of this motherboard maybe? (now i have setted in 400 but the processor is stable) or the ram are broken, i don´t know, help please

and what do the option "write recovery time"? how can i know what is the best clock for my RAM

thanks.

[Ashikaa]

I have problem with my computer after half year. When I turn it on, from outlook everything work well like fans, light.... But mostly it does not post anything on the monitor. It always says "No signal".

However sometimes (rarely) when I turn on it works normally. I notice it only works when the light on the case blinks during booting process.

I tried to test PSU. Chipset, VGA Card, HDD in anther computer and they are working fine. The only thing left is mobo.

What's wrong with my mobo? Is there anyway to fix it?

Thanks!

[Snatch]

Very strange :confused:.

Did you try to add the drivers onto the WinXP installation CD?

I got it installed but then I killed one hdd and fried the mobo....
looking for another mobo now

thanks anyway

[Falkentyne]

Ash:
90% chance it's the memory.
Try a different set of RAM in that computer and I bet it will work every time.
Alternatively, try your existing Ram in another PC....

[alexlyc]

I got it installed but then I killed one hdd and fried the mobo....
looking for another mobo now

thanks anyway

Did you rma your board? I will buy your rma'ed board if you do...

[t_ski]

I'm probably going to be selling mine in the next couple weeks if you're interested...

[Ashikaa]

I have problem with my computer after half year. When I turn it on, from outlook everything work well like fans, light.... But mostly it does not post anything on the monitor. It always says "No signal".

However sometimes (rarely) when I turn on it works normally. I notice it only works when the light on the case blinks during booting process.

I tried to test PSU. Chipset, VGA Card, HDD in anther computer and they are working fine. The only thing left is mobo.

What's wrong with my mobo? Is there anyway to fix it?

Thanks!

Ash:
90% chance it's the memory.
Try a different set of RAM in that computer and I bet it will work every time.
Alternatively, try your existing Ram in another PC....

I tried but :( Any possible solution? I really dont want to buy a new one.