ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

[Chrysalis]

Ok running orthos right now while typing this with C1E on and EIST off, cpuz is reporting the voltage staying at 1.15v under full 100% cpu load, cpu temp rose from 22C to 37C which indicates the cpu really is under load since my system is not crashing do I need to worry about the voltage not increasing under load?

[t_ski]

Hi,

I have a little problem with my SATA DVDRW and P5W DH Deluxe.

On the 3 SATA ports I have 3 HDD's, so I've connected my DVDRW (SATA) to the JMicron port, but when it's reading a DVD the system becames to slow :confused:
If I change the DVDRW to another SATA port it's all ok, and if I connect a HDD to the JMicron port it's also slow when it's reading/writing :confused:

What can I do to fix this? Or, can I use the RAID SATA ports to connect one HDD or the DVDRW?

Thanks :up:

I had a similar problem the first time I started using the JMicron controller, where I was getting transfers around 1 MB/s. :shocked: But it turns out I just needed to install the drivers for the controller. they weren't installed automatically with the rest of the drivers from the Asus CD like I thought they were.

[P5WDHdeluxe]

My pc has the following parts:
Asus P5W DH Deluxe
E6600
2 * 1GB Kingstone @ 800
MSI 8800GTS 640MB

With the latest bios every tme i had for my cpu temps around 28-35 c and for my mobo 40 - 45 c. Everything on stock cooling...
I mounted for fun a forgotten Zalman Fan ( http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/view.asp?idx=15&code=016 ) under my GTS... Suprised i saw on next boot my Mobo has temps lower than my Cpu! Around 26 - 28 !!!!
So cause the mounted fan is hitting the ICH7R Chip and cooling it i have so much lower temps? It is true that the warm heatsink of my GTS is almost totally covering the above chip i mentioned... So what happened? The mobo temps for the P5W DH Deluxe are measured by ICH7R?

ps: Just to mention that my pc case doesn't have any side fans... i mounted this fan in my case... so "no fresh" air is coming throught this fan...

[romfi]

I am on 2406 now no problems, also I read what was said earlier about EIST (speedstep) and C1E and decided to disable speedstep in the bios, the result was my voltage still drops when idle alongside the temp but I dont lose cpu clock speed so now I am sitting here wondering if speedstep (and coolnquiet) is just an overhyped feature since its C1E doing the power/heat saving. The only conclusion I can come to is just that by lowering the clock when idle reduces the chance of there been a stability issue when undervolted as the cpu itself is throttled but as soon as the cpu comes under load the voltage is upped so I reckon its a very low risk.

I am on 2403 and just discovered that disabling speedstep does not actually cancel clock speed changes on my system :shrug:. May be I need to move to 2406. Anyway, I think that when we talk about an idle system you are right - C1E is the feature that delivers most of the power savings. The speedstep comes into play on the system under a light load and is thus recommended for 24/7 setups.

[genish]

I try 2.15 without underbios
but with 2.17 it's ok thanks......
but i try to overclock with my " older test" cpu 333 1.48v ram 834 with 2.1v .....overclocking wrong it's easy ok before
i test the mini overclocking:confused:
cpu+ram just 266 to 267 and spd to memory default ( manual)
i can't boot i shut my pc and when i reboot i must go to change bios with f1

but when I test automatique overclocking 10 20 30% it's ok
perhaps my old new bios have no change something in the bios .
I you a idea?:shrug:

i have a little pb with the pionner 112 detection master and the dection of sata externe
but my pb is since the 2406 my ram is unstable. corsair 6400 c4 2*1go
is the bios 2406 how crash something on my motherboard ?
is the print of the 2406 on 2004?
is my motherboard naturally crash ?
or is my ram crash ?
i test that:confused:

[Falkentyne]

"pb?" What is "PB"?

Can you please at least TRY to write in standard written English, and not rediculous abbreviations?

This isn't an AOL chatroom or instant messenger...

[Gig4moller]

I would guess it means problem. :D

[tuffin]

Just went to turn my computer on and got stuck at the post screen so i restarted an now all i get is the fans spinning away nothing output to screen. Two green lights on mobo,
tried resetting them cmos no joy,
took the battery out and left it out for 20mins no change,
took 1 stick of ram out no change
swapped it with other stick of ram no change.
Tried unplugging all RAM so board would beep at me but no beeps
tried uplugging all hdd so it would beep once again no beeps what else can i do or is my board ready for the scrap heap in the sky?

[Eastcoasthandle]

w t f
So my p5w was always unstable around 333 fsb even if i put the nbridge voltage at 1.85. I update my bios to 2406 and to my surprise its now stable around 350. However i need to disable hyper path. So i OC my cpu from 2.9 to 3.1 and my ram loses maybe 25mhz. I run 3dmark06 and to my surprise i lost 600points. Does hyperpath really make so much of a difference to overshadow .2ghz cpu gain? The ram shoulnd not have anything to do with this loss since i tested how ram effects 3dmark06 and 200mhz barely took 100 points off.

You might want to put a 40mm fan (http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/50milfan.html) on the north bridge heat sink

[MacClipper]

Just upped to 2406 and the few sec. delay entering the HW Monitoring submenu in the BIOS is gone, it's now instantaneous. Nice! :)

[P5WDHdeluxe]

My pc has the following parts:
Asus P5W DH Deluxe
E6600
2 * 1GB Kingstone @ 800
MSI 8800GTS 640MB

With the latest bios every tme i had for my cpu temps around 28-35 c and for my mobo 40 - 45 c. Everything on stock cooling...
I mounted for fun a forgotten Zalman Fan ( http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/view.asp?idx=15&code=016 ) under my GTS... Suprised i saw on next boot my Mobo has temps lower than my Cpu! Around 26 - 28 !!!!
So cause the mounted fan is hitting the ICH7R Chip and cooling it i have so much lower temps? It is true that the warm heatsink of my GTS is almost totally covering the above chip i mentioned... So what happened? The mobo temps for the P5W DH Deluxe are measured by ICH7R?

ps: Just to mention that my pc case doesn't have any side fans... i mounted this fan in my case... so "no fresh" air is coming throught this fan...

anything on that...? :shrug:

[Hawk.1]

anything on that...? :shrug:

Yeah, the temp probe is close to the ICH7R chip, so any air blowing over that is going to lower the temps displayed by BIOS/software.

[lawrywild]

Hey guys, anyone got any ideas how I can fix my problem here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2665625#post2665625

Cheers :)

[kakarlsen]

Hi people!

So, I've had my P5W/C2D setup for about a year now.
Originally I had a E6600, wich ran nicely on 3,6GHz, (400x9, no idea on what BIOS I used) but unfortunately the E6600 died after a while :(
Later I got an E6850, but I didn't bother with any oc at first. Updated BIOS to the modded 2004 found here.

Anyways; about two weeks ago my system became unstable, and finally all I got was a black screen (no post). After a bit of trial and error, I discovered that by removing one of the RAM modules (Crucial Anniversary) everything seemed OK. (I tried switching back and forth between the modules, so it was pretty clear that one of them was dead)

Got my self a pair of Corsair dominator 8500 (2x1GB), but I was still experiencing some unstability. Updated BIOS to 2406 and got the latest chipset drivers, but it only made things worse. (screen freezes. Example; the intro video in H-L2 Episode Two freezes after a couple of seconds. The computer can also freeze by just using an internet browser)
(evrything running at stock settings)

Then again, I tried with only one RAM module, and everything works fine(works with both the Corsair modules one at the time, so they are both healthy). I i have tried both using the orange and the black slots, but no difference there.



Secondly; With the E6600 I had no problems running at 400 FSB, but now I can only get it to boot at about 360. Just the BIOS? (I've read most of this thread and tried all tips I could find)


Any clues? Faulty MB? Bad BIOS?

[Chrysalis]

I am on 2403 and just discovered that disabling speedstep does not actually cancel clock speed changes on my system :shrug:. May be I need to move to 2406. Anyway, I think that when we talk about an idle system you are right - C1E is the feature that delivers most of the power savings. The speedstep comes into play on the system under a light load and is thus recommended for 24/7 setups.

Seems I spoke too soon.

Further observations.

the low voltage is permenant not only when idle, if I stress the system it remains at 1.168volts however is stable, but if I disabled C1E the voltage is still 1.168 even under full load.

seems the only way to get what should be the normal voltage is to manually specify it in the bios or to enable speedstep, selecting auto voltage with speedstep disabled regardless of thermal/c1e settings the voltage is always in power saving mode.

Although it seems stable and can run orthos no problems I have notice occasional clock speed fluctuations in cpuz from 2667mhz to 2000mhz and I am curious if this is because of undervolting.

Last night I left my pc up for a couple of hours on the fixed 1.35v setting in bios and when I went back to it was frozen, did some googling and I may have accidently slightly over volted the cpu although as I understand many people here up their voltage this is the only time my pc has ever hung so I am putting the explanation down to me manually setting the voltage.

I dont know if this voltage behaviour is specific to 2406 and would happen on 2004 as on 2004 I always used speedstep apart from ages ago when I cannot remember the behaviour.

cpu is 6420 overclocked to 6600 speed 2.6ghz which has ran fine in this config for months and months and temps are very low mid 40s under load low 20s idle.

For now I have reenabled speedstep.

--edit--

just checked speedfan and its reporting both my fans at 0rpm clearly wrong, I am seeing some weird behaviours so I may roll back to 2004.

[romfi]

Hey guys, anyone got any ideas how I can fix my problem here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2665625#post2665625

Cheers :)

The link seems to be broken ... At least it doesn't work for me

[Chrysalis]

yeah link broken here also.

ok now I am back on 2004 bios however the afudos flags in post #1 do not work, latest afudos says bios incompatible so have to use older afudos which doesnt support wipe cmos.

2004 behaviour a bit different.

speedstep disabled, windows runs as if speedstep is enabled.

I then enabled lock cpu ratio to 8x so forcing it but windows ignores it and runs as if speedstep is on again.

I noticed now in bios the vcore is staying at 1.325v so I am thinking now the speedstep behaviour is driver/software related? been turned on by windows itself?

I got my fan readings back I power cycled the computer.

2046 and 2004 do behave differently however 2406 with speedstep disabled does appear to mainly lock the cpu speed at full speed but has small fluctuations down and cpu voltage is locked at low power mode, 2004 as said above acts just as if speedstep is on all the time.

further observation

rightmark cpu utility which shows both cores monitoring (unlike cpuz only first core) shows the 2nd core at full speed occasionally dropping down to speedstep speed but instantly going back up again also at full voltage but the first core is acting as if speedstep is on. Very strange.

Ok confusion ended.

C1E is only invoked if the CPU recieves the HLT signal. This is issued by the OS when there are no instructions to do (think of the idle process in the task manager issuing HLT). Once a Core 2 CPU recieves the HLT, it's clocking down multiplier 6x and a certain minimum VID (desktop 1.163 V, mobile 0.95 V). Once it recieves a non-HLT signal, multiplier and VID go up to standard levels.

EIST is controlled by a OS driver which instructs the CPU. The driver measures the CPU load, then it selects from several steps (up to 6 on my mobile cpu) which one to choose. The lowest EIST multiplier/VID matches exactly the ones of C1E. The other steps are choosen at medium load. EIST keeps the multiplier/VID as low as they are needed.

I disabled C1E on 2004 and is as it should be full voltage and normal clock speed so my conclusion is 2046 is buggy either due to the bios buggy or me not able to wipe cmos data on flash and 2004 is working as it should.

In addition if anyone is interested intel released 7.8 version of matrix drivers and finally fixed the long standing write cache bug, now on single drives write cache is enabled finally and it no longer forces disabled write cache on drives attached to the jmicron controller.

[t_ski]

The link seems to be broken ... At least it doesn't work for me

I checked it out, but he was able to resolve it.

[lawrywild]

Oh yeah, links broken because I deleted the thread. Managed to fix the problem. Cheers for making the effort to look though :)

[JimmyDDD]

hey lawrywild how did you configure your motherboard for your Q6600. I have the Q6600 and this motherboard too and i want to see how you overclock it thanks

[XSS]

Hi,
I come not over 440FSB by max Vcore , what is the max FSB with this board ?

[Gig4moller]

Hi,
I come not over 440FSB by max Vcore , what is the max FSB with this board ?

That is about as high as this board gets.

[lawrywild]

hey lawrywild how did you configure your motherboard for your Q6600. I have the Q6600 and this motherboard too and i want to see how you overclock it thanks

Bios 2406, Auto vcore, 333Fsb, Pci 33.3, Pci-e 100, EIST enabled, DDR2 833Mhz, Vdimm 2.1v, 4-4-4-4-4, auto vmch, auto vich, intel RAID 0,

That about covers the important bits..

[JimmyDDD]

since i have 400 MHZ ram, is it better if i went to higher fsb so it will take fuller advantage? I emulated your configuration since I have faster ram. I had the same thing with my E6600 before but before I got 5.9 on my Computer in Vista x64, but now even with the new CPU that is OC, i get the same 5.9. is that 5.9 wrong? or did i not oc mine enough?

[~aoe~]

You will most likely get better performance if you were to run your memory at 1:1, and a higher FSB will help you to achieve that. However, better performance is not guaranteed, and the only way to know is to try both configurations and benchmark them.

5.9 is the current maximum score in Vista.

[Ripper18]

I have a configuration problem on P5W DH.I have a raid 0 on ich7(2 sata seagate 7200.11 500Gb,1 sata seagate 7200.9 250Gb on Jmicron Sata,1 PATA 160 seagate 7200.7 on Jmicron Pata,1 Pata NEC DVDRW 3500 on Ich7 PATA.I buy a samsung DVDRW SATA 203b and when i connect it at EZBACKUP1(i have remove all the EZBACKUP Jumpers first)it stucks at the post screen.When i remove it,all works well.Any help?

[turtle05]

I am having problems properly connecting the following 5 sata drives to this motherboard...

(2) 75GB 8MB Cache WD Raptors [ RAID 0 Boot Drives ]
(1) 300GB WD 16MB Cach Hard drive [ data drive ]
(2) Optical drives [ one asus dvdrw drive and another sony oem dvd drive ]

System Specs:
q6600 Cpu / Asus P5W DH Deluxe
4GB DDR2 800 Crucial Ballistix Tracers
Evga 8800gt
Xifi Soundcard
Corsair 500W Power Supply
vista 64 bit

This is my first time trying to set up RAID drives and i'm totally lost. It was running ok when I was just using 1 raptor as a system boot drive but now i have another identital raptor and would like to set up raid 0.

Can someone please tell me the best way to connect these drives to the mobo. ( which sata port for each drive ) I see there's 6 sata connectors on the board.

I have tried hitting Cntrl I during bootup in which I configured the 2 raptors as raid but when i try to install vista....it does not see any hard drives. I have set the RAID Jumper to the Leftmost side for Raid 0 per the manual. I am not sure what the proper settings to change in the bios as well.
:(

I have read some older posts here...am I suppose to use the two orange EZ raid ports for raid and the others for my 3rd hard drive and optical drives after switching the jumper to "big"?

[Chrysalis]

as I understand it vista has its own ahci drivers but not raid so you may need to use a driver cd on vista install to make it see the raid.

[lawrywild]

as I understand it vista has its own ahci drivers but not raid so you may need to use a driver cd on vista install to make it see the raid.

Nah, it has all ich7r drivers including raid.

Assuming you are using the intel raid, then you don't want to move that jumper at all. That has nothing to do with what you're trying to do.

Maybe you are using an illegal version of vista.. probably vlited or something.. :rolleyes:

If that's the case then download the "f6 floppy configuration drivers" from intels website. Open the exe file with WinRAR. Extract the .img file to a directory and use the trial of poweriso to extract the .img to a usb flash drive. Then when vista asks, plug in the usb key and it'll automatically find the correct drivers.

If you are using a legal, untouched version of vista, I think you probably have just not bothered to read the manual well enough. It explains everything step-by-step pretty clearly..

[turtle05]

as I understand it vista has its own ahci drivers but not raid so you may need to use a driver cd on vista install to make it see the raid.

Thanks for the reply! I have managed to set up raid now by hitting control I during boot and installed vista 64bit. I have the two raided drives on the red sata port and the one next to it ( ports are labeled sata 1 and sata 3 ) I connected one of my optical drives to the sata 4 port and the other to one of the orange EZ sata ports...that one is not showing up in windows. I have also not connected my 3rd data drive. Can someone tell me where to connect my remaining 3 sata drives? Should i connect the 2 raided raptors to the orange ports instead? I apologize for all the questions and really apreciate the help!!!

[JimmyDDD]

Hey Larrywild, i noticed your VDIMM is 2.1, isn't it better to have 2.2? I also tried your exact configuration and sometimes I get "a clock interrupt was not received on secondary processor" . I wonder what that mean?
Also, aoe, when you say run memory at 1:1, y memory now is 833 MHZ, Bios 2406, Auto vcore, 333Fsb, Pci 33.3, Pci-e 100, EIST enabled, DDR2 833Mhz, Vdimm , is this configuration pretty conservative or aggressive you think?

[Ripper18]

I have a configuration problem on P5W DH.I have a raid 0 on ich7(2 sata seagate 7200.11 500Gb,1 sata seagate 7200.9 250Gb on Jmicron Sata,1 PATA 160 seagate 7200.7 on Jmicron Pata,1 Pata NEC DVDRW 3500 on Ich7 PATA.I buy a samsung DVDRW SATA 203b and when i connect it at EZBACKUP1(i have remove all the EZBACKUP Jumpers first)it stucks at the post screen.When i remove it,all works well.Any help?

Anyone?

[Donseba]

Does anybody upgrade to 2406? how it works ? what is the best bios for this board ? be cause i have a corsair 1066 mems and i can´t select 1066, but yes in 760mhz.. :(

thanks
Bye

[Lurker246]

Does anybody upgrade to 2406? how it works ? what is the best bios for this board ? be cause i have a corsair 1066 mems and i can´t select 1066, but yes in 760mhz.. :(

thanks
Bye

I'm not running the same memory as you but it might help..as I had some trouble getting my memory running at 1000Mhz

It could be your timings- set them as 5-5-5-15 and see if it will boot.

[Lurker246]

Anyone?

I've read all of this thread and can't remember anyone getting a DVD SATA drive to run on the orange raid ports.

As far as I can remember the only solution was to run a HDD from the orange ports and plug the DVD SATA into the ICH7R or the Jmicron.

The jmicron will only recognise an optical drive in later bios' 2004>

The above is from memory so forgive me if I'm not 100% on it

[Ripper18]

I've read all of this thread and can't remember anyone getting a DVD SATA drive to run on the orange raid ports.

As far as I can remember the only solution was to run a HDD from the orange ports and plug the DVD SATA into the ICH7R or the Jmicron.

The jmicron will only recognise an optical drive in later bios' 2004>

The above is from memory so forgive me if I'm not 100% on it

Proble solved.Works fine on Ich7 sata 4 connector:up: :up:

[Ripper18]

HD Tach with 2 Seagate 7200.11 32Mb 500gb RAID 0 on ICH7.It's good result?

[t_ski]

Pretty good. If you utilize the Matrix Raid for the ICH7R chipset, you can partition off the fastest part of each drive and make the array faster. With four 250 GB 7200.10's I can get 435 MB/s reads on the Raid 0 array.

[lawrywild]

Pretty good. If you utilize the Matrix Raid for the ICH7R chipset, you can partition off the fastest part of each drive and make the array faster. With four 250 GB 7200.10's I can get 435 MB/s reads on the Raid 0 array.

Well, it'll bench faster yes, but it won't make the array faster. Same speed as making a normal windows partition on the front of the array, but just that matrix fools windows into thinking they're seperate drives so the bench will only run on that first part of the drive, taking an average from there whereas windows partition bench the whole drive and take an average.

[bithkits]

Hi Lawrywild!

Thanks for maintaining this amazing thread!

I have the following problem, maybe someone can help me out!

Spec's are in sig(workstation).

I am running XP x64 and BIOS 2406

When I enable memory remap feature, in order to use 4GB's of RAM, windows crashes right after the loading screen - just goes to a black screen when the desktop should load. I can get into safe mode and memtest86+ and Prime95 report no errors at all after hours and hours.

If I disable the memory remap feature, everything works exactly right, except that the BIOS only reads 3072MB's of RAM. in the MAIN tab, under system information it says:

System memory -
Total - 4096
appropriated - 1024
available - 3072

How on earth do I fix this? I have been looking through the Asus forums but found nothing...

What does appropriated mean? the manual says nothing about it or the remap feature.

EDIT: I went to BIOS 2302 - no change in this problem.

I do not have service pack 2 installed, this is a complete clean reinstall as the previous install kicked the bucket. I am downloading it now - hopefully it might fix something.

[lawrywild]

Thank You. :)


Have you tried another bios? 2004 maybe? The manual doesn't say anything about the option because it was added later on in a bios update.

[bithkits]

Thank You. :)


Have you tried another bios? 2004 maybe? The manual doesn't say anything about the option because it was added later on in a bios update.

I am using a C2D E4600 which requires BIOS 2302 or later :(

Before this CPU I used 2004 without any problems at all:D

Maybe windows update will solve something. I will also update drivers.

It is definitely Windows that is full of it, because Ubuntu 7.10 gutsy instally perfectly with remap enabled... Stupid Windows...

Will let you know! :up:

[Donseba]

I'm not running the same memory as you but it might help..as I had some trouble getting my memory running at 1000Mhz

It could be your timings- set them as 5-5-5-15 and see if it will boot.

i have corsair xms2 2x1gb 1066, and a E6420 at 3.0, fsb 375, i cant use the ram more than 760mhz

[bithkits]

Windows update did something right - now it is working as it should with memory remap enabled...

I cannot install service pack 2 though, keep getting errors about the cryptographic services. I am getting sick of microsoft. Anyway, at least all 4 gig's works now :)

[lawrywild]

Why not slipstream SP2 into the disc?

[neilka]

I'm using a Q6600 G0 with my P5W and I don't seem to be able to change the vcore to anything but "auto". I've tried several different BIOS versions and even resetting the CMOS via the jumper but nothing seems to solve the problem.

I know the first post mentions this problem but I've tried both of the solutions and neither works - even if I disable EIST and C1E it still has the "disable EIST and C1E to change vcore" message under the vcore setting... Any ideas?

[bithkits]

Why not slipstream SP2 into the disc?

Good idea Lawrywild, I forgot you could do that!

Thanks:D

[911us]

How can I go back to 2004 ?..I 'm using 2406 right now.

[bichi]

P5WDH; Rev 1.02g; 66M0AG; (July 2006); Q6700 G0 @ 3.0G; BIOS: 2406
- switched from QX6700 B3 to Q6700 G0, Aug 23, 2007
- Q6700 Retail BX80562Q6700SLAQ - G0 - FPO/BATCH: L723A656 - Pack: 07/20/07
- stable @ 300FSB with either QX6700 B3 or Q6700 G0
- OCZ OCZ2G11002GK 2x1gB, PC2-8800; vDIMM = 2.15vdc; 500mhz; 3:5; 5-5-5-15
- Enhanced C1: AUTO - Internal Thermal Control: AUTO - Speedstep: ENABLED
- FSB, MCH, ICH volts set manually to lowest values
- no problems with "onboard audio" staying disabled (X-FI Elite installed)
- all QFan PWM settings disabled
- 36watts less AC power, same machine clock/specs/parts, than QX6700 B3 (WattsUpPro)
- OCCT v1.1.1-b5; screenshot taken right before 4min idle monitoring
- Idle temps: CORES: 36c/36c/33c/35c CPU: 78f/25c MB: 87f/30.5c
- AMB: 66f/18.8c; case closed
- (detailed specs in sig below)

GRAPHIC:
http://www.esnips.com/doc/7070459b-327a-4886-9c3f-31a3271bfdd5/73-P5WDH-2406-OCCT-15min

BIOS ScreenShots (2406) used in above test:
http://www.esnips.com/doc/548739a4-db48-486e-9d99-274fae86f559/72-P5WDH-2406-Screen-Shots

[mikepaul]

I was going to attach a 40MM fan to the NB heatsink but no screws I found would do the job.

I picked up an Antec Spot Cool fan (http://www.cluboverclocker.com/reviews/fans/antec/spot_cool/index.htm) at CompUSA for 20% off. It would hover over the heatsink so I guess it'll work, but now I'm wondering which one (NB or SB) it should be used on for the most benefit? I'm running out of room to put stuff so I'm not sure I'd go back for another one even if it does a great job...

[Lurker246]

I was going to attach a 40MM fan to the NB heatsink but no screws I found would do the job.

I picked up an Antec Spot Cool fan (http://www.cluboverclocker.com/reviews/fans/antec/spot_cool/index.htm) at CompUSA for 20% off. It would hover over the heatsink so I guess it'll work, but now I'm wondering which one (NB or SB) it should be used on for the most benefit? I'm running out of room to put stuff so I'm not sure I'd go back for another one even if it does a great job...

Stick it over the Northbridge, The south bridge barley gets warm on this mobo.

Tested on my own system, sticking a 40mm fan on the NB stopped my system from randomly rebooting every 7-8 hours:up: . Although that was with 1.85 volts, I've since put it back to Auto and it's running fine.

[Donseba]

question:

How can i change the FSB: DRAM in the bios ???

[firsttimmer]

Hi all,

Anyone here successfully overclocked a Q6700 on the P5W DH? I have been trying with all sorts of setting, with memtest pass, but Prime failed at test 4.

I have tried Bicih's settings, but he got DDR-8000

What is going on? Is the ram holding me back? or is my MB?

Here are my settings, suggestions are very welcome!

Q6700 @ 300x10, 1.25v
OCZ Plat Rev 2 2GB kit, 5-5-5-15, 2.1v, 450x2=900Mz
BIOS 2406

Thank you!

Tom

[P5WDHdeluxe]

[1] While doing an average o/c i.e E6600 from 2.4 to 3.0 GHZ with this board is a good idea to disable Hyperpath & Dram Throttle?
I don't get why we should disable these 2 options but in several forums it is written that they should be off? Being Enabled these 2, is there any chance of damaging smthg?

[2] I updated my Bios from 2206 to 2406... I am pretty sure that old days when my E6600 was at peak load the max Vcore i had noticed from Bios and SpeedFan was 1.280 BUT now, with the new bios update, it tis 1.288... Is there a problem with that or a known issue about this change?

Thanx alot guys! ~ :) ~

and a small update:

[3] When i updated my bios... i load the default values from the menu of Bios... When i restarted my pc on start up the value of my cpu was 2.13.... o.o
I have E6600 and in every past bios this value was 2.4...
It seems that from the defaults in this bios is 8*fsb... I had to go into bios again and change manually the multiplier (that it was with dark grey "9") to 9 so in the next startup the 2.4 would be shown... any on that?

[bithkits]

Hi Lawrywild!

Thanks for maintaining this amazing thread!

I have the following problem, maybe someone can help me out!

Spec's are in sig(workstation).

I am running XP x64 and BIOS 2406

When I enable memory remap feature, in order to use 4GB's of RAM, windows crashes right after the loading screen - just goes to a black screen when the desktop should load. I can get into safe mode and memtest86+ and Prime95 report no errors at all after hours and hours.

If I disable the memory remap feature, everything works exactly right, except that the BIOS only reads 3072MB's of RAM. in the MAIN tab, under system information it says:

System memory -
Total - 4096
appropriated - 1024
available - 3072

How on earth do I fix this? I have been looking through the Asus forums but found nothing...

What does appropriated mean? the manual says nothing about it or the remap feature.

EDIT: I went to BIOS 2302 - no change in this problem.

I do not have service pack 2 installed, this is a complete clean reinstall as the previous install kicked the bucket. I am downloading it now - hopefully it might fix something.

Problem - PC crashes and BSOD's and gives srange problems when memory remap is enabled when you have 4+gigs RAM


FIX: update X-Fi drivers. Turns out that they are the sole reason for this mess. Thank you Creative :down:

[Lurker246]

Hi all,

Anyone here successfully overclocked a Q6700 on the P5W DH? I have been trying with all sorts of setting, with memtest pass, but Prime failed at test 4.

I have tried Bicih's settings, but he got DDR-8000

What is going on? Is the ram holding me back? or is my MB?

Here are my settings, suggestions are very welcome!

Q6700 @ 300x10, 1.25v
OCZ Plat Rev 2 2GB kit, 5-5-5-15, 2.1v, 450x2=900Mz
BIOS 2406

Thank you!

Tom


What's your NB voltage? Also what's the highest prime stable clock you've got so far?

[lawrywild]

Bios 2503: http://rapidshare.com/files/82704550/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2503.rar

[DrSlump]

Hi guys, i've installed a q6600, and added two more memory stiks to obtain 4Gb ram.
I keep the system @333Mhz with 834Mhz for ram @2.05V voltage.
The rams are rated 4-4-4-12 @2.0-2.1V.

The systems seems stable. It passed two memtest cycles without any error and about 3.5 hours of prime65 torture blend test.

The problem is that i receive sometimes errors during file transfers :( . Now i updated the bios to the latest version posted by lawry, and now i will further test my system.

What do you think about the errors i mentioned? What can be the cause??

[Lurker246]

Hi guys, i've installed a q6600, and added two more memory stiks to obtain 4Gb ram.
I keep the system @333Mhz with 834Mhz for ram @2.05V voltage.
The rams are rated 4-4-4-12 @2.0-2.1V.

The systems seems stable. It passed two memtest cycles without any error and about 3.5 hours of prime65 torture blend test.

The problem is that i receive sometimes errors during file transfers :( . Now i updated the bios to the latest version posted by lawry, and now i will further test my system.

What do you think about the errors i mentioned? What can be the cause??

That sounds like it could be a bogey SATA cable. Where are you transferring files from: HDD to HDD, DVD to HDD, Net to HDD, ethernet or Wi-Fi?

Sorry for answering questions with questions it's just "file transfer error" is a little vague.

[mikepaul]

Is anyone going to get a Q9450 soon after it ships and install it in their DH Deluxe?

I know 45nm CPUs aren't on the ASUS compatibility list anymore, but now that a Nehalem looks out of reach without a new MB I've settled on the Q9450 to be my next big upgrade...

[bichi]

original 2503 post deleted (see post #6821)
- replaced with 2504

2504:
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/P5WDH2504.zip

Supported CPU:
http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&model=P5W%20DH%20DELUXE

[DrSlump]

That sounds like it could be a bogey SATA cable. Where are you transferring files from: HDD to HDD, DVD to HDD, Net to HDD, ethernet or Wi-Fi?

Sorry for answering questions with questions it's just "file transfer error" is a little vague.

Hi lurker, i isolated the problem: i mounted an iso image located on an external sata hard drive. When i install the software from the mounted image, i get an error about a corrupted cab file. It happens even if i put the image file on an external usb2 portable hd drive.

If i run the cpu @ default, the problem does not show it self. If i don't touch any voltage, the maximum fsb i can reach is 330, without this problem appears.
Strange, becouse it's the only instability issue i got, but it's quite a problem anyway :(

[Frodin]

Anyone seen a Wolfdale working in this motherboard?
With a 9,5 multi on the E8500, 3800mhz and even beyond should be doable with FSB 1600 speeds. I think i am going to get an E8500 or E8400 the minute they are available here and try it out, and in a worst case scenario I'd simply have to decomission this board.

[w2richwood]

yea those wolfdales look good to me to the 8400 looks good the 8500 is to much more for a .5 more on the mulitplyer

[Sejo5]

Hey guys, For some reason I put the NEw 2503 BIos and its just garbage now the worst thing it wont let me go back to any older version. Through the Asus Ez flash or AFUDOS. Im wondering what the Heck just happened. It would just pop saying that the Version im trying to flash too is 2 old. Please help.

[Grendel66]

BIOS 2504 (ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/P5WDH2504.zip), 2503 is gone.

[Sejo5]

Too bad, I believe it just got corrupted and now by system wont Post. And that system you put up is not on asus website neither is the one i got from larry. Grr this is frustrating. Is their a way to recover from a bad flash or i have to reprogram the Eprom with a programmer or purchase one with a bios already flashed with one and install it???

[w2richwood]

try clearing cmos by pulling the batttery and put jumper on 2/3 for a few min.s see if it will boot again
Rich

[romfi]

According to ASUS (http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&model=P5W%20DH%20DELUXE), the new 2504 BIOS supports Penryn 45 nm dual core CPUs



Core 2 Duo E8200 (2.66GHz,1333FSB,L2:6MB,65W,rev.C0) ALL 2504
Core 2 Duo E8400 (3.00GHz,1333FSB,L2:6MB,65W,rev.C0) ALL 2504
Core 2 Duo E8500 (3.16GHz,1333FSB,L2:6MB,65W,rev.C0) ALL 2504

:welcome:

No "official" support for Penryn-based quads though ... :shrug:

[konny_]

hi all this is my cfg

QX9650
P5WDH WiFi
Thermaltake Toughpower 750W
X1900 XT
2 GB CORSAIR XMS2 PC8500 CL5
OS VISTA 32bit

i'm using 2504 new bios if someone can tell me all the parameteres to select on BIOS because i'd like to have a stable system with 4.0 Ghz too like some other users here.
Thx a lot!

[bichi]

Ha! - Crazy ASUS fekkers...
- 2503 musta been the shortest lived BIOS, eh?
- thanks for 2504 tip, Grendel and Romfi...

2504:
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/P5WDH2504.zip

Supported CPU:
http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&model=P5W%20DH%20DELUXE

[Lurker246]

hi all this is my cfg

QX9650
P5WDH WiFi
Thermaltake Toughpower 750W
X1900 XT
2 GB CORSAIR XMS2 PC8500 CL5
OS VISTA 32bit

i'm using 2504 new bios if someone can tell me all the parameteres to select on BIOS because i'd like to have a stable system with 4.0 Ghz too like some other users here.
Thx a lot!

Have a look at Falkentyne's posts a couple of pages back as he has overclocked a QX9650 on this board.

[konny_]

someone can help me pls:shrug:

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/2899/88036634gy4.jpg

[bichi]

P5WDH - BIOS 2406 compared to new 2504 (Jan 11 2008)
- appears ASUS may have made slight change to voltage calculations.
- 2504 agrees with DVM readings and older BIOS 2302. (Aug 15 2007)

Otherwise, installed without issues
- used BIOS EzFlash/Thumbdrive method.
- quick 10min OCCT test successful.

BIOS Volts Compare PIC:
http://www.esnips.com/doc/8d0273fa-ff94-4548-9cb4-31c2a9b8c457/74-P5WDH-BIOS-2406-vs-2504-01

[konny_]

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9740/18790002sf3.th.jpg (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=18790002sf3.jpg)

[Falkentyne]

Um, nice SS but what vcore are you using for that 4.2 ghz QX9650 ? 1.425v just for 4.0 ghz seems a bit high unless you're compensating for vdroop without a pencil mod for it...(then who knows what it might be under load...)

And what do you mean, if "someone can help you please?" Is something wrong with your system right now? We can't just tell you what will be a 'stable' system with a screenshot of a successful superpi run...only you can test that (games, 3dmark, prime95, etc). Disable hyperpath3 and dram throttling threshold (whatever that is), and eist and speedstep...then test.

Is your 4 ghz one stable with any lower vcore than 1.424v? And once again, what vcore were you using for the superPI at 4.2 ghz? (i can't believe how many people forget the first question when there is one right under it).

[konny_]

Um, nice SS but what vcore are you using for that 4.2 ghz QX9650 ? 1.425v just for 4.0 ghz seems a bit high unless you're compensating for vdroop without a pencil mod for it...(then who knows what it might be under load...)

And what do you mean, if "someone can help you please?" Is something wrong with your system right now? We can't just tell you what will be a 'stable' system with a screenshot of a successful superpi run...only you can test that (games, 3dmark, prime95, etc). Disable hyperpath3 and dram throttling threshold (whatever that is), and eist and speedstep...then test.

Is your 4 ghz one stable with any lower vcore than 1.424v? And once again, what vcore were you using for the superPI at 4.2 ghz? (i can't believe how many people forget the first question when there is one right under it).

hi Falk i was just looking for you!
I repeat that i've problems to set vcore down to 1.45 in BIOS because i don't have the possibility to do this, the min setting of vcore is 1.45, the max 1.70:shakes:
i've seen you that u could put 1.31 on vcore but HOW???!!!!:shrug:
I'd like to know which setting are u using to have 4ghz stable

all the setting in BIOS (vcore, mem, etc etc) and what is your system
i'm here:)

[Falkentyne]

Did you clear cmos ?
P5w has either vcore 1.25v or 1.15v (I forgot which) as the lowest setting. What bios did you come from before you went to the newest one? After you flashed the BIOS, did you immediately power off the computer (after it went into bootup and said the normal "cmos checksum wrong", etc) and clear the CMOS with the jumper? Something is very wrong if your lowest vcore is 1.45....
and my 4 ghz setting is 1.375v set in BIOS (which gives 1.356v), although I could go slightly lower if I'm not trying to quad prime. This setting is perfectly stable with small fet prime unless it gets very warm in my room. Note that this is with the pencil vdroop mod, otherwise I would have to set something like 1.45v in BIOS, most likely :(
Mem isn't important; you know it varies depending on module brand, but its 2.1v, and that's only because I have it at cas 3...

[konny_]

Did you clear cmos ?
P5w has either vcore 1.25v or 1.15v (I forgot which) as the lowest setting. What bios did you come from before you went to the newest one? After you flashed the BIOS, did you immediately power off the computer (after it went into bootup and said the normal "cmos checksum wrong", etc) and clear the CMOS with the jumper? Something is very wrong if your lowest vcore is 1.45....
and my 4 ghz setting is 1.375v set in BIOS (which gives 1.356v), although I could go slightly lower if I'm not trying to quad prime. This setting is perfectly stable with small fet prime unless it gets very warm in my room. Note that this is with the pencil vdroop mod, otherwise I would have to set something like 1.45v in BIOS, most likely :(
Mem isn't important; you know it varies depending on module brand, but its 2.1v, and that's only because I have it at cas 3...

yes i've done clear CMOS because of instable of my mobo in some moments of OC..when i've flashed the bios to the last 2504 i haven't cleared CMOS and i forgot even to power off the computer!!!i have to try again? do u say?

[Falkentyne]

Yes, I would start there.
And please don't flash a BIOS while overclocked. That's asking for even more trouble. Set everything back to default speeds first.
And always clear cmos after a bios flash.

[konny_]

Yes, I would start there.
And please don't flash a BIOS while overclocked. That's asking for even more trouble. Set everything back to default speeds first.
And always clear cmos after a bios flash.

ok i will do it..than i will post new infos
thx:) :welcome:

edit:
nothing to do...same problem...:(

[markq4xprt]

guys possibly how many sata can p5w hold?


i can only see 3 available sockets and the 2 on the bottom for ez raid and one red on top near the processor

so basically i can connect only 3 sata ports

is there a way i can use the one on top or the ezraid in jbod? how? thanks

[w2richwood]

you can use one of the ezraid if you remove the jumper on the ezraid then go to bios and enable ezbios it will be a intel port the that make four intel ich ports i think its ezraid no. 2
Rich

[markq4xprt]

btw wich jumper big,raid 0 , raid 1, or ill remove all pins? so basically i can only use only one of those ez raid sata ports?


anyway ive managed to figure out how to use the one on the top near the wifi card, i just enabled the jmicron controller


anyway ill try your suggestion thanks

[t_ski]

Manual said to put two jumpers on, one on the left and one on the right.

[w2richwood]

take all jumper off gives you one more full speed ich intel port read better

[markq4xprt]

i see thanks w2richwood ill try that later

[Falkentyne]

ok i will do it..than i will post new infos
thx:) :welcome:

edit:
nothing to do...same problem...:(

When did you FIRST notice the problem with the lowest possible vcore being 1.45v ? When did this problem first happen?

What BIOS did you use BEFORE this new 25xx one?
What was the lowest possible vcore BEFORE this bios?

can you reflash 2406 and try again? Either with Ezflash or AFUDOS (older version?)

[crishan]

With 2504, in the BIOS' Hardware Monitor Section, an option for
AI Quiet was added.

[lawrywild]

With 2504, in the BIOS' Hardware Monitor Section, an option for
AI Quiet was added.

? That's been there for like 2 years lol :D

[neilka]

I'm using a Q6600 G0 with my P5W and I don't seem to be able to change the vcore to anything but "auto". I've tried several different BIOS versions and even resetting the CMOS via the jumper but nothing seems to solve the problem.

I know the first post mentions this problem but I've tried both of the solutions and neither works - even if I disable EIST and C1E it still has the "disable EIST and C1E to change vcore" message under the vcore setting... Any ideas?

This is still happening with 2504. Is there anyone running a Q6600 G0 who can change their vcore?

[icrunk]

This is still happening with 2504. Is there anyone running a Q6600 G0 who can change their vcore?

yes im running a q6600 g0 with bios 2406.. and i can change the vcore.. but atm im having a problem

[Ragdd]

Maybe stupid or noob question:

Whats the difference between AI-quit and Q-fan?

I know that both are used to quiet down fans.
But what is the difference between them?

[Chrysalis]

P5WDH - BIOS 2406 compared to new 2504 (Jan 11 2008)
- appears ASUS may have made slight change to voltage calculations.
- 2504 agrees with DVM readings and older BIOS 2302. (Aug 15 2007)

Otherwise, installed without issues
- used BIOS EzFlash/Thumbdrive method.
- quick 10min OCCT test successful.

BIOS Volts Compare PIC:
http://www.esnips.com/doc/8d0273fa-ff94-4548-9cb4-31c2a9b8c457/74-P5WDH-BIOS-2406-vs-2504-01

I hope those changes include fixing the voltage bugs I experienced, also maybe fixing C1E mode and full power mode. 2403 and 2406 were bad on my cpu. I decided tho I am staying with 2004 now unless I have a specific reason to ditch it. As well as noone responding to my concerns that there is no way to flash the bios and wipe the cmos checksum etc. at same time.

[JimmyDDD]

I notice my pc randomly reboots are random times and i checked the logs it says disruptive shutdown, but how else can i go into detail to see what is the cause of the shutdown?

[w2richwood]

try googling it
Rich

[Unbornchild]

I notice my pc randomly reboots are random times and i checked the logs it says disruptive shutdown, but how else can i go into detail to see what is the cause of the shutdown? If you overclock, a wrong attempt to overclock and/or underpowered system (too weak PSU?) might be the cause. You can 'go into detail to see what is the cause of the shutdown' by checking your settings in BIOS.

[bichi]

I hope those changes include fixing the voltage bugs I experienced, also maybe fixing C1E mode and full power mode. 2403 and 2406 were bad on my cpu. I decided tho I am staying with 2004 now unless I have a specific reason to ditch it. As well as noone responding to my concerns that there is no way to flash the bios and wipe the cmos checksum etc. at same time.

*******
Original P5WDH, 1.02g; Q6700 G0 @ 3.0g; FSB: 300

CPU VCore Voltage: [Auto]
Enhanced C1 Control: [Auto]
CPU Internal Thermal Control: [Auto]
Virtualization Technology: [Disabled]
Intel SpeedStep Tech: [Enabled]

Have never had problems with voltages with any BIOS'es...
- only a mild overclock with both QX6700 B3 and current Q6700 G0.
- have always used above BIOS settings.
- CPU idle volts to load volts ramp-up never an issue with stability or applications.
- might be because I'm only doing a "wimpy" 2.66g to 3.0g overclock and still using XP Pro 32b SP2 ?

What specific voltage errors are you getting?
- maybe someone with same errors might have a solution for you...

[Cordite!]

Yes, I would start there.
And please don't flash a BIOS while overclocked. That's asking for even more trouble. Set everything back to default speeds first.
And always clear cmos after a bios flash.

I guess it depends on the height of the O/C when flashing BIOS. I used to bring stuff back to stock, but quit doing that ages ago.

When BIOS flash goes wrong while system runs beyond it's spec it may not been stable to begin with.

But to rule out any problems I support your advice to the guy with the Vcore problem.

[qu3x^]

Hy there got a problem with my board.

1st of all i get starting with my actuall System http://www.sysprofile.de/id36037

2 days ago i wanted to switch to an higher BIOS than 1707 for some OC test, as i heard that 2406 has opend multi again. So i flashed with Alt+F2 default settings to 2406 set everything ready for testing. As my desktop popps up in a 640x480 like window with a scrollable width and high like 1600x1200 ... :shocked:

Whats wrong now? It seems that >2406 messed up my CF. Since now I am not able to switch resolutions above 1600x1200. I only get a small cut out of 1600x1200 with scrolling ability. As I manually disable CF in CCC everything is alright again. The Problem seems to be BIOS related. I already tried to reinstall drivers switched to actual Bios 2504 and it also affects Vista, with the same issue. Does somebody knows whats wrong? I also keppt PCI-E @ 100 PCI 33.3. Could it be that i missed a new Option in the Bios or anything else?

[t_ski]

I would just uninstall and reinstall your video drivers. Sounds like there may have been some changes in the PCIe settings in the BIOS which may have made the changes in the CF settigns.

[qu3x^]

I would just uninstall and reinstall your video drivers. Sounds like there may have been some changes in the PCIe settings in the BIOS which may have made the changes in the CF settigns.

I reinstalled the graphics driver twice. Didn't helped anyway :shrug:
After that i updated Chipset drivers from intel with no success.

[w2richwood]

try flashing back to bios 2004 with afudos 2.11 see if that helps it a good stable bios
Rich

[t_ski]

I reinstalled the graphics driver twice. Didn't helped anyway :shrug:
After that i updated Chipset drivers from intel with no success.

Did you try to uninstall the driver first? Perhaps try using one of the driver cleaner programs, too...

[qu3x^]

try flashing back to bios 2004 with afudos 2.11 see if that helps it a good stable bios
Rich

As far as i know since 2504 is flashed no go back with afudos or anything else is possible. Don't have a floppy to test that anyway

Did you try to uninstall the driver first? Perhaps try using one of the driver cleaner programs, too...

Every thing cleaned up. Reinstalled. Same issue here. Asus just stole my Crossfire ! ! ! It can't be Software related at all. My 2nd OS Vista U x64 has the same issue after all.

Seems to be that ASUS really messed up something with the 2nd PCIe. Both Cards are working fine as singles. Just connectet each of them in the orange (prime slot) to sort out; its the board...

Troubles since starting, more problems on upgrading i think that was my last ASUS Board. :shakes:

[Sejo5]

DOes anyone on the forum Sell Bios Chips pre-flashed. I currently dont have anyone right now with the same board. And my bios is corrupted. It wont post after removing chip or resetting cmos or battery. I would do the Hot swap and have a extra chip as backup just incase it happens again. and another ? why didnt it let me downgrade the bios to previous it would say that the bios is a older one then current? From 2503 to 2004. Wierd stuff. If anyone sells the chip pre flashed im more then glad to purchase one.

[w2richwood]

you can buy one from asus or google for bios man
Rich

[t_ski]

DOes anyone on the forum Sell Bios Chips pre-flashed. I currently dont have anyone right now with the same board. And my bios is corrupted. It wont post after removing chip or resetting cmos or battery. I would do the Hot swap and have a extra chip as backup just incase it happens again. and another ? why didnt it let me downgrade the bios to previous it would say that the bios is a older one then current? From 2503 to 2004. Wierd stuff. If anyone sells the chip pre flashed im more then glad to purchase one.

Try www.badflash.com

[w2richwood]

also here http://www.biosman.com/bios-flash.html
Rich

[mikepaul]

I bought two SATA trays (http://www.startech.com/Product/ItemDetail.aspx?productid=HSB100SATBK&c=US) so I could have removable drives for easy backup of 500GB drives mounted insode my case.

I attached one to a RAID card I got at Best Buy. I crossed my fingers that one drive would work when that card was set to BIG and it does: that single drive came up ready to format.

However, I connected the second bay to EZ_RAID1 and set the RAID jumper to BIG but I get no response from that drive. I see setup instructions in the manual but they make no mention of one drive attaching to EZ_RAID1.

I have ALL other DH Deluxe data-drive SATA connectors in use. The JMicron one is for a second external eSATA when I get my two eSATA boxes filled later. SATA3 and SATA4 are 500GB data drives.

So has anyone tried to make use of either EZ_RAID1 by itself or SATA1 as a single non-boot data drive and succeded? If I can just tell SATA1 it's not the boot drive I'd be OK, but the manual doesn't mention using SATA1 for a data drive even when you have a PATA boot drive like I do.

Thanks...

[Chrysalis]

*******
Original P5WDH, 1.02g; Q6700 G0 @ 3.0g; FSB: 300

CPU VCore Voltage: [Auto]
Enhanced C1 Control: [Auto]
CPU Internal Thermal Control: [Auto]
Virtualization Technology: [Disabled]
Intel SpeedStep Tech: [Enabled]

Have never had problems with voltages with any BIOS'es...
- only a mild overclock with both QX6700 B3 and current Q6700 G0.
- have always used above BIOS settings.
- CPU idle volts to load volts ramp-up never an issue with stability or applications.
- might be because I'm only doing a "wimpy" 2.66g to 3.0g overclock and still using XP Pro 32b SP2 ?

What specific voltage errors are you getting?
- maybe someone with same errors might have a solution for you...

voltage was correct when speedsteap was enabled (as yours is)

when I disabled speedstep the voltage problems arose, The problems I had if I remember them correctly (are earlier in this thread)

1 - Auto voltage set my voltage to 1.15v low power mode. It stayed at this voltage regardless of C1E been disabled/enabled and clock speed and cpu utilisation. So I would be at 100% cpu usage at full clock speed at 1.15v.
2 - C1E and speedstep only throttled 1 core properly the other one got stuck at full clock speed but occasionally went down to reduced speed.
3 - I had a system freeze during the 2 day period I was using 2046 whilst system idle at a few hours uptime, I have been using 2004 since last summer with no such problem and again no problem now I have reverted.

I expect the freeze was caused by the voltage been malfunctioned. Either 2046 is buggy on my cpu or the behaviour may have been caused by a bad upgrade, I consider proper bios flashing wiping the cmos data so a flashed bios is on defaults but this isnt possible on these bios's the flash command in post #1 doesnt work.

Easiest solution for me go back to 2004 which I have done.

Sorry in addition I am also doing a mild overlock.

I have a 6420 basically clocked as a 6600 running at 2.4ghz.

[Chrysalis]

I guess it depends on the height of the O/C when flashing BIOS. I used to bring stuff back to stock, but quit doing that ages ago.

When BIOS flash goes wrong while system runs beyond it's spec it may not been stable to begin with.

But to rule out any problems I support your advice to the guy with the Vcore problem.

Was at stock when flashing, and flashed in dos not windows.

[vetrelec]

Bad temperature readings on my P5W DH
Hi i update BIOS on my P5W DH to latest version 2504 and instal new E8400.Everithing seems good but i see some small glitches.In BIOS i can read on HW Monitor CPU temp 71 degrees!!But if i touch heatsink its slight arm mostly cold.If 71degrees is right ,heatsink must be very hot.This indicates me that temperature reading is wrong.I have Coolermaster Hyper TX2,my PC is not overclocked.Second glitch i under OS.CPU-Z still shows that i have fixed x9 ratio(in BIOS i have EIST enabled),but i can hear that CPU FAN running 1900RPM and after few secs CPU enable EIST and FAN slow down to 1000RPM.For me some minor bugs still persist on BIOS 2504.Am i right?Or doing something bad?For example Everest shows both cores 65degrees without load and 75degrees under Orthos load.I touch heatpipes and its not hot.For me badreadings from diode.

[P5WDHdeluxe]

When i am updating my BIOS either through Windows with Asus Update or with EZ Flash 2, on the next reboot i dont get any "cmos checksum wrong" but my pc continues with booting the Windows...
After that i don't have any problem with my pc, and the update is correctly done as i can see on the POST SCREEN, the new BIOS number each time... The only "problem" i have is that i don't see any "cmos checksum wrong". The new Bios each time boots with the default values....
Is this a problem or i don't have to worry about?

Currently i have 2504 Bios Version

[t_ski]

I bought two SATA trays (http://www.startech.com/Product/ItemDetail.aspx?productid=HSB100SATBK&c=US) so I could have removable drives for easy backup of 500GB drives mounted insode my case.

I attached one to a RAID card I got at Best Buy. I crossed my fingers that one drive would work when that card was set to BIG and it does: that single drive came up ready to format.

However, I connected the second bay to EZ_RAID1 and set the RAID jumper to BIG but I get no response from that drive. I see setup instructions in the manual but they make no mention of one drive attaching to EZ_RAID1.

I have ALL other DH Deluxe data-drive SATA connectors in use. The JMicron one is for a second external eSATA when I get my two eSATA boxes filled later. SATA3 and SATA4 are 500GB data drives.

So has anyone tried to make use of either EZ_RAID1 by itself or SATA1 as a single non-boot data drive and succeded? If I can just tell SATA1 it's not the boot drive I'd be OK, but the manual doesn't mention using SATA1 for a data drive even when you have a PATA boot drive like I do.

Thanks...

When I first got my seagate 250's I was testing them idividually before I built my array. The EZ-Raid_1 port would not work for me. As far as I understand it, the Silicon Image chipset takes the signal from port #2 of the ICH7R and splits it for use in Raid 0 (fast), Raid 1 (safe), or JBOD (big). I ended up having to test it on the JMicron controller. I did find out when testing a Tt Max4 external enclosure that the JMicron chipset does not support "hot swap" - only the Intel, Nvidia and a couple others do (Silicon Image IIRC).

Is the EZ-Raid_0 port in use? That one should work fine if it's not. Otherwise, I would suggest getting a new SATA controller card if you don't have enough ports on that Best Buy one you've got.

[Falkentyne]

Bad temperature readings on my P5W DH
Hi i update BIOS on my P5W DH to latest version 2504 and instal new E8400.Everithing seems good but i see some small glitches.In BIOS i can read on HW Monitor CPU temp 71 degrees!!But if i touch heatsink its slight arm mostly cold.If 71degrees is right ,heatsink must be very hot.This indicates me that temperature reading is wrong.I have Coolermaster Hyper TX2,my PC is not overclocked.Second glitch i under OS.CPU-Z still shows that i have fixed x9 ratio(in BIOS i have EIST enabled),but i can hear that CPU FAN running 1900RPM and after few secs CPU enable EIST and FAN slow down to 1000RPM.For me some minor bugs still persist on BIOS 2504.Am i right?Or doing something bad?For example Everest shows both cores 65degrees without load and 75degrees under Orthos load.I touch heatpipes and its not hot.For me badreadings from diode.

And the temps were reading correctly BEFORE you updated the BIOS? Which bios did you update FROM? No one else has seen this problem...

And note that a 'cold' heatsink does not necessarily mean the temperature calibration is wrong. It can easily mean a bad mount. Try the following on for size: run your prime95 for 15 minutes, then immediately power off and remove the heatsink as quickly as possible, then, after exercising proper ESD precautions, touch the CPU. I'm willing to bet that CPU will be extremely hot.

(you will need to remove the HS as fast as possible, though).

I'm not saying that you're wrong; but you never posted any "previous" info to support your claims.

[Falkentyne]

When i am updating my BIOS either through Windows with Asus Update or with EZ Flash 2, on the next reboot i dont get any "cmos checksum wrong" but my pc continues with booting the Windows...
After that i don't have any problem with my pc, and the update is correctly done as i can see on the POST SCREEN, the new BIOS number each time... The only "problem" i have is that i don't see any "cmos checksum wrong". The new Bios each time boots with the default values....
Is this a problem or i don't have to worry about?

Currently i have 2504 Bios Version

What bios did you update from? 2406?
I've seen this happen when you update from a very closely matching bios to another one. Besides that, you obviously did NOT clear cmos right after the bios update, which you should always do after any flash.

[mikepaul]

Is the EZ-Raid_0 port in use? That one should work fine if it's not. Otherwise, I would suggest getting a new SATA controller card if you don't have enough ports on that Best Buy one you've got.
Looking at the downloadable DH Deluxe manual (http://www.mslinn.com/sites/mike/bear/e2557_p5w_dh_dlx.pdf), I see EZ_RAID2 and EZ_RAID1 but no 0. SATA_RAID1, SATA3 and SATA4 are all in use.

The 2-internal or 2-external port card from Best Buy (can't recall brand) is pure RAID but BIG accepts one drive, so if I stick another drive on it they will be BIGged together and that's not what I'm looking for. It was only $50 for a SATA2 300Mbps card, since the cheaper cards were SATA1 150Mbps I don't want to have to use. Online availability of CHEAP non-RAID 2-port SATA2 controller cards was just not there.

The BB card does hot-swap, though. No drive detected when the raw drive was installed, but when I'd created the partition then swapped the drive between trays during testing, the good tray put it back in use just fine. Reminded me of holding a gyroscope when I pulled it out.

I'll see if I can use SATA1 as a data drive, then rethink the second tray if necessary...

[P5WDHdeluxe]

What bios did you update from? 2406?
I've seen this happen when you update from a very closely matching bios to another one. Besides that, you obviously did NOT clear cmos right after the bios update, which you should always do after any flash.
you are twice right, and for the bios version and for not doing cmos...... i'll do a clear cmos as soon as possible...

thanx alot

[ppcli]

1st time ive ever had a problem with this mobo since sept of 06.went from 2406 to 2503.bad move, lol nothing like spending 30. bucks to get a new bios chip from asus.from what i was told i think they sent out a few this last week.

[vetrelec]

And the temps were reading correctly BEFORE you updated the BIOS? Which bios did you update FROM? No one else has seen this problem...

And note that a 'cold' heatsink does not necessarily mean the temperature calibration is wrong. It can easily mean a bad mount. Try the following on for size: run your prime95 for 15 minutes, then immediately power off and remove the heatsink as quickly as possible, then, after exercising proper ESD precautions, touch the CPU. I'm willing to bet that CPU will be extremely hot.

(you will need to remove the HS as fast as possible, though).

I'm not saying that you're wrong; but you never posted any "previous" info to support your claims.

Hi i check everithing.I remove heatsink and test temps.It hot but not much.Finally i try another cooler,ArcitFreezer and temps goes down significantly.For me i expect problem inside heatpipe because i check contact with CPU and its right.Anyway temps problem solved but still not solved EIST.I have EIST enabled on bios but it not works.If i put back my previous E6850 EIST start working.with E8400 EIST not works and CPU running at 3GHZ instead slow down to 1,6HZ.,why?BIOS problem or something else.?

[Falkentyne]

EIST doesn't seem to work with the yorkfields. Bios support appears incomplete although the chips perform properly; does your BIOS say your L2 cache is 0k? Mine does on the QX9650, and it says that in 3dmark 2006 too, but Everest, CPUZ, etc, all show the cache (and everest even tests the L2).

[t_ski]

Looking at the downloadable DH Deluxe manual (http://www.mslinn.com/sites/mike/bear/e2557_p5w_dh_dlx.pdf), I see EZ_RAID2 and EZ_RAID1 but no 0. SATA_RAID1, SATA3 and SATA4 are all in use.

The 2-internal or 2-external port card from Best Buy (can't recall brand) is pure RAID but BIG accepts one drive, so if I stick another drive on it they will be BIGged together and that's not what I'm looking for. It was only $50 for a SATA2 300Mbps card, since the cheaper cards were SATA1 150Mbps I don't want to have to use. Online availability of CHEAP non-RAID 2-port SATA2 controller cards was just not there.

The BB card does hot-swap, though. No drive detected when the raw drive was installed, but when I'd created the partition then swapped the drive between trays during testing, the good tray put it back in use just fine. Reminded me of holding a gyroscope when I pulled it out.

I'll see if I can use SATA1 as a data drive, then rethink the second tray if necessary...

Sorry, I remembered wrong - I thought it was 0 & 1. I thought you had it hooked up to the second port, not the first. But anyway, I have mine set right now as Safe (Raid 1), even though it's running as raid 0 & 5 for the Matrix Raid. If nothing else is hooked up to the second port, try setting it to Safe, which should be the jumper on the left and the jumper on the right.

[vetrelec]

EIST doesn't seem to work with the yorkfields. Bios support appears incomplete although the chips perform properly; does your BIOS say your L2 cache is 0k? Mine does on the QX9650, and it says that in 3dmark 2006 too, but Everest, CPUZ, etc, all show the cache (and everest even tests the L2).

On BIOS not check L2 size but can.Depends temperatures which is on idle about 32degrees on heatsink an 41 degrees on cores i can tell that working on 3GHZ everytime an EIST not works.E6850 works well EIST is active and in idle is 2GHZ and temps is about 10degrees lower.Maybe its first BIOS which add suport for Wolfdales and next version start perform well and EIST start working i hope.As i see official support for Yorkfields still not.Maybe when Intel starts selling non extreme Yorkfields they add support officially and everything starts working.This is only thing which not works.CPU itself works perfect on P5W DH

[P5WDHdeluxe]

1st time ive ever had a problem with this mobo since sept of 06.went from 2406 to 2503.bad move, lol nothing like spending 30. bucks to get a new bios chip from asus.from what i was told i think they sent out a few this last week.
what happened? :eek: :eek: :eek: a problem with the new bios???
Our mobo is Crash Free Bios... You didn't use the Crash Free BIOS 3 utility to flash the previous bios which had the problem and update it with another one?


DOes anyone on the forum Sell Bios Chips pre-flashed. I currently dont have anyone right now with the same board. And my bios is corrupted. It wont post after removing chip or resetting cmos or battery. I would do the Hot swap and have a extra chip as backup just incase it happens again. and another ? why didnt it let me downgrade the bios to previous it would say that the bios is a older one then current? From 2503 to 2004. Wierd stuff. If anyone sells the chip pre flashed im more then glad to purchase one.
Why you don't use the Mobo's cd or a usb key and the Asus CrashFree Bios 3 utility to solve the problem with the corrupted bios? You will not have to buy a new one.... Using this utility (check manual 4-9 page)... is the reason you don't have to buy a new chip...

[gersson]

1st time ive ever had a problem with this mobo since sept of 06.went from 2406 to 2503.bad move, lol nothing like spending 30. bucks to get a new bios chip from asus.from what i was told i think they sent out a few this last week.

I'm in the same boat as you.:(
I used Asus Update. When I flashed, it said it could not verify the flash. I knew what was going to happen @ that point :shocked: but I figured it was inevitable so I rebooted. The results were a blank screen even when clearing bios and removing the battery for a 1/2 hour.

Think Asus bears any resposibility?

[Sejo5]

"Why you don't use the Mobo's cd or a usb key and the Asus CrashFree Bios 3 utility to solve the problem with the corrupted bios? You will not have to buy a new one.... Using this utility (check manual 4-9 page)... is the reason you don't have to buy a new chip...[/QUOTE]

LoL, I think thats funny cause i read up on that and it says turn off System, put flash drive in with proper bios and turn on system and it should auto turn on. System cant read anything without any code directing to do so. Bad Bios Flash = Usually No code on chip = Means no turn on system or read anything. So reading from CD, FLoppy or Flash Drive wont do anything. Only Few ways to fix. Hot Swap. New Chip.

[Sejo5]

Ok Guys, Bios 2504-2503 is garbage.
Yesterday I have received my new BIOS Chip from BIOS Depot pre-flashed with BIOS 2504. So I pop it in the machine and it turns on. No surprise. So before I do anything I make sure I cleared the CMOS, and then went ahead and did the Hot-Swap procedure. Done it before on older systems so I was no stranger, flashed it with also BIOS 2504.
Now I have 2 BIOS chips making sure I have a backup just incase this happens again, so after testing the machine for 10 minutes, it was running fine. Then all of a sudden it restarts the system. So I am thinking to myself what is going on now? I turned the system back on and go to bios making sure everything is at default which it is… then again it locks up, forcing me to shut it off hard.
Then it just refuses to turn on, tried the other BIOS chip thinking maybe the Chip was funky. Nope same exact thing, turns on and locks up in BIOS sometimes it take a few seconds or right away, or sometimes it wont boot unless you leave it alone awhile.

Before I start being too over-sure of myself, I might throw this in just to see what you guys think. As well yesterday I receive bunch of cooling goodies for my motherboard. TT N/B Cooler, Corsair Memory Cooler, Artic Silver Ceramique (Non-Conductive), Zalman Cooler for my ATI X1800XT, Case fans. My existing CPU cooling is a TT typhoon, which does the job excellent. The Existing North Bridge H/S was removed by cutting the copper heat pipe from the other side H/S (Everyone should know what I am talking about) applied some A/S and installed the TT N/B cooler, installed a fan on the S/B before I did that I applied some paste there as well, Installed the Zalman on Video Card.
Made sure everything was wiped clean from old paste with rubbing alcohol and lots of napkins, used this technique for years. I doubt any of this is causing an issue. Since the A/S is non conductive it shouldn’t matter if I did lets say get any of it anywhere. I was also thinking its grounding somewhere, usually grounding issues are easy to pick out since they usually have the same out come. Won’t turn system on, or turns on for sec then shuts off but it’s repetitive.

So ok guys, I will be removing the system of the case later today making sure it’s not a grounding issue. Is there a way to flash to older more reliable BIOS? And any tips or suggestions on what could be the issue?

System Specs:
Asus P5W DH – Deluxe
Intel C2D E6750
2GB PC1066 Crucial Ballistix – New Set (2weeks old)
2x Hard Drives.
1 DVD RW
3x 80mm Case Fans ||1x Big Typhoon ||1x Corsair Cooler||1x TT NB cooler ||1x SB Fan
Ati Radeon X1800XT / Zalman Cooler.
Mad Dog 550w PSU <~ Solid PSU works as good as my Corsair and Antec PSU’s

[w2richwood]

use afudos 2.11 it lets you flash back your bios two floppy or flash drive
Rich

[Falkentyne]

On BIOS not check L2 size but can.Depends temperatures which is on idle about 32degrees on heatsink an 41 degrees on cores i can tell that working on 3GHZ everytime an EIST not works.E6850 works well EIST is active and in idle is 2GHZ and temps is about 10degrees lower.Maybe its first BIOS which add suport for Wolfdales and next version start perform well and EIST start working i hope.As i see official support for Yorkfields still not.Maybe when Intel starts selling non extreme Yorkfields they add support officially and everything starts working.This is only thing which not works.CPU itself works perfect on P5W DH

I'm having trouble understanding you, no offense.
Your BIOS detects the L2 at 0 KB? Yes or No ?

[P5WDHdeluxe]

I'm in the same boat as you.:(
I used Asus Update. When I flashed, it said it could not verify the flash. I knew what was going to happen @ that point :shocked: but I figured it was inevitable so I rebooted. The results were a blank screen even when clearing bios and removing the battery for a 1/2 hour.

Think Asus bears any resposibility?
Check for the Asus Crash Free Bios 3... Manual Page. 4-9
It is a process to be followed after a failed updating process...

[Sejo5]

P5WDH Look up a few posts just explained why that crashfree Bios is BS.

[P5WDHdeluxe]

P5WDH Look up a few posts just explained why that crashfree Bios is BS.
In some cases... corrupted Bios means that i can at least power on...

[Sejo5]

Ehh if only most of us were that lucky.

[qu3x^]

New Catalyst Software is out too. But that didn#t helped so far

use afudos 2.11 it lets you flash back your bios two floppy or flash drive
Rich

Is there a correct procedure how to flash back correctly with afudos.
Witch parms schould be used? And schould i reformat my flashdrive to a other FS than FAT? pls help me out with this one.

[w2richwood]

fat 32 load you flash with dos boot afudos 2.11 and bios named p5wdh.rom
Rich

[mikepaul]

Sorry, I remembered wrong - I thought it was 0 & 1. I thought you had it hooked up to the second port, not the first. But anyway, I have mine set right now as Safe (Raid 1), even though it's running as raid 0 & 5 for the Matrix Raid. If nothing else is hooked up to the second port, try setting it to Safe, which should be the jumper on the left and the jumper on the right.
I went with SATA1 and it worked acceptably as a data drive. I guess that when you have no PATA drives then the drive on SATA1 is the boot drive, but nothing in the BIOS forced it in front of my existing boot drive.

Except that as you said it's not hot-swappable. I pulled the drive out and put it in the other tray and the drive was still seen, but the original connector must have been polling for a drive every few moments because everything including the mouse would stop moving then start going again. I rebooted and everything went back to normal.

So I'm going to try using the SATA_RAID1 port for that tray job as long as THAT one hot-swaps, and abandon the idea of two eSATA ports for now. While it's on OK deal to have two eSATA cases handy, the change from one drive to another inside those cases isn't as nice as the bare drives in trays. If I develop hard disk issues by handling bare drives all the time I'll regret this plan, but for now it seems like the way to go. I sure hope two drives active at the same time on the JMicron connectors remember I told them NOT to do any RAID stuff.

If I decide on one more internal drive, SATA1 will be for that...

[DrSlump]

HELP!
I got a Q6600 and 4Gb G.Skill PHU6400 2gbhz in four banks.
All memory settings to their defaults (V=2.05V, 4-4-4-12 timings).
Even @330Mhz, i get super pi errors, while @333Mhz i get errors in I/O transfers too.
Please some one may help me to make my sistem stable?

[Falkentyne]

You're using 4 gigs of RAM in 1 gig dimms. There's your problem right there.
Increase the vmem to 2.2v. And increase the vMCH to 1.65v.
That should get you stable at 330 FSB. Then slowly work down the voltage from there until you determine what you need. And what is the vcore for the CPU? Try 1.45v for that then work your way down. A combination of those should get you stable for the moment.

[lawrywild]

P5WDH Look up a few posts just explained why that crashfree Bios is BS.

Actually, it's not. I used it once and it helped me greatly. Provided that the bootblock sector of the bios is still intact after a corrupt flash, crashfree bios will work..

[whoodiestyle]

HELP!
I got a Q6600 and 4Gb G.Skill PHU6400 2gbhz in four banks.
All memory settings to their defaults (V=2.05V, 4-4-4-12 timings).
Even @330Mhz, i get super pi errors, while @333Mhz i get errors in I/O transfers too.
Please some one may help me to make my sistem stable?

default voltage for those is 2.0-2.1v got them sitting on my desk next to me

[DrSlump]

Falkentyne:
I've tested your settings and they does not produce good results to me.
My memory modules are designed to work@2.0-2.1V, and even @2.15V, they becomes really hot.
Seems like there is a phisical limitation of my mainboard that prevent to use all four slots without problems. In the other hand i see that most people uses 4 bank config without any problem, even with their quad g0 overclocked @3Ghz and more, with no voltage triks.
So i got two questions:
1) Is there a bios version that works better with 4 banks?
2) Is there a tecnical explanation of the 4 banks problem?

(P.s. I removed two stiks from the black slots and now i'm going @3Ghz. I've launched 4 sessions of super 32M pi: two of terminated with not exact in round result so, maybe, maybe the problem is not only the four banks but olso a bit unluky cpu..??)

[HitMaker]

You don´t need 2.2v for vdimm.... i'd running a E6400@3200Mhz (400 fsb) with the ram at 800Mhz CL4-4-4-10 withou ANY problem with 2v and vMCH 1.65v when i had the P5W DH Deluxe....

[DrSlump]

You don´t need 2.2v for vdimm.... i'd running a E6400@3200Mhz (400 fsb) with the ram at 800Mhz CL4-4-4-10 withou ANY problem with 2v and vMCH 1.65v when i had the P5W DH Deluxe....

Interesting. So the component liable to the system instability should be my cpu, isn't it?

[vetrelec]

I'm having trouble understanding you, no offense.
Your BIOS detects the L2 at 0 KB? Yes or No ?

Hi
BIOS detect L2 cache 6144KB,right.My problem is that EIST not work.I enable it on BIOS but after restart not works and when i restart again and check BIOS its disabled again.This make CPU running all time full speed 3GHZ and not slow it under WIN enviroment.CPU ratio modify is disabled.This is my problem,hope uderstand

[w2richwood]

Interesting. So the component liable to the system instability should be my cpu, isn't it?

could be the rev of your board rev. 1-2s arent as good as 3-4
Rich

[DrSlump]

could be the rev of your board rev. 1-2s arent as good as 3-4
Rich

My board revision is 1.03

[w2richwood]

thats good then
Rich

[Falkentyne]

Falkentyne:
I've tested your settings and they does not produce good results to me.
My memory modules are designed to work@2.0-2.1V, and even @2.15V, they becomes really hot.
Seems like there is a phisical limitation of my mainboard that prevent to use all four slots without problems. In the other hand i see that most people uses 4 bank config without any problem, even with their quad g0 overclocked @3Ghz and more, with no voltage triks.
So i got two questions:
1) Is there a bios version that works better with 4 banks?
2) Is there a tecnical explanation of the 4 banks problem?

(P.s. I removed two stiks from the black slots and now i'm going @3Ghz. I've launched 4 sessions of super 32M pi: two of terminated with not exact in round result so, maybe, maybe the problem is not only the four banks but olso a bit unluky cpu..??)

DrSlump:
I only suggested my settings to determine if it was the RAM/stress on the MCH that might be causing the issue. I should have suggested removing 2 sticks as well, but you already got to that ;) So indeed it's something else holding you back.

In my experience, using 4 sticks of memory ALWAYS limits your FSB considerably (even more so on the FSB limited 975x), but you seem to have a different issue. I hope you can get it solved.

[whoodiestyle]

Can anyone help me and tell me how I set up raid0 on this? I just bought another 150gb raptor and want to install vista but I cant even get the board to detect the drives. Got them plugged in the ez_raid1 and ez_raid2??




hmm never mind I think I got it working now was looking at the wrong things in the manual

[ppcli]

lol i wish the crash free bios worked.i went threw the floppy then usb, before i made the call to asus.had a new bios chip in 20 hours.now i want to see if evga gets the new 780i back from rma as fast.that was just throwing 300. out the window.

[w2richwood]

Can anyone help me and tell me how I set up raid0 on this? I just bought another 150gb raptor and want to install vista but I cant even get the board to detect the drives. Got them plugged in the ez_raid1 and ez_raid2??




hmm never mind I think I got it working now was looking at the wrong things in the manual

the intel raido works much better ports 1 n 3

[MacClipper]

This sounds to me like the nasty PEG LINK mode option in the BIOS is affecting these cards even before any serious 3D Function calls are being made.
If you don't already know - PEG LINK is feature on nearly all boards, just called different things by different vendors, but it overclocks the card at boot-up and its handled by the motherboard. It handles nVidia and ATI cards differently. In my experience, it's never been a good thing. If you're running the "entire" system at stock/default levels - sure it can help. But, who the heck does that? Go into the BIOS and turn that nasty PEG LINK mode to NORMAL and see how things go then.

Some contrary findings today.

I had been setting the Link Mode to Normal for the past 1.5 years following the advice of many on the www till I ran into obvious hardware (?timing) issues with a Powercolor PCS 512MB HD3870 card today. The PC freezes even in Safe Mode and until the Link Mode was set back at Auto, I could not install the card at all.

Just in case someone stumbles over this one.

[Troop]

Hi guys,

I just noticed a few days ago that my PC will boot by simply moving the mouse when the PC is fully shut down. I did not change anything in the BIOS, I have run virus and spyware scans etc.

I checked the BIOS for WAKE on LAN type settings and unless I missed something, everything seems to be disabled. What am I missing here or does anyone have any ideas?

I am running Windows Vista Business edition, 32bit, and using BIOS version 2302. Should I upgrade? Also, what is the best way to upgrade the BIOS? I was using the software that came with the mobo, but I have read here that some folks have had problems using it.

Any help/ideas on this strange problem would be appreciated. Thanks, and let me know if you need more information.

[~aoe~]

I know this may be a stupid question, but are you actually using the 'Shut Down' option in Vista or the button that looks like a broken circle with the vertical line at the top (same icon as the WinXP shut down icon)?

I ask because the first few times I used vista, I thought this icon was the shut down (the WinXP shut down icon is the same), but it's actually a hibernate function that saves your session and puts the PC into a low power state.

If you're hibernating, then mouse movement will reactivate the PC. I've started using this option as startup is much quicker, and I will now only 'Shut Down' around once a week.

[whoodiestyle]

I know this may be a stupid question, but are you actually using the 'Shut Down' option in Vista or the button that looks like a broken circle with the vertical line at the top (same icon as the WinXP shut down icon)?

I ask because the first few times I used vista, I thought this icon was the shut down (the WinXP shut down icon is the same), but it's actually a hibernate function that saves your session and puts the PC into a low power state.

If you're hibernating, then mouse movement will reactivate the PC. I've started using this option as startup is much quicker, and I will now only 'Shut Down' around once a week.

haha same here i thought that was the power off button in vista. but i never shut my pc off anyways unless im installing new hardware, power failure or restarts for updates.

[~aoe~]

Just thought of another possibility. If it's a USB mouse plugged into either of the 2 lower USB ports (the ones for use with the remote), then mouse movement could create a signal sufficient to trigger a system power up. I noticed when I removed a mouse attached to one of these USB ports that my system powers up. Obvious solution to this problem is to use one of the 2 top USB ports.

[Lurker246]

Obvious solution to this problem is to use one of the 2 top USB ports.

That's the only solution, as far as I'm aware.

There's also an option to disable Digital Home mode in the Bios, but it worked on some BIOS' and not on others.... can't remember which ones though sorry.

[Troop]

Just thought of another possibility. If it's a USB mouse plugged into either of the 2 lower USB ports (the ones for use with the remote), then mouse movement could create a signal sufficient to trigger a system power up. I noticed when I removed a mouse attached to one of these USB ports that my system powers up. Obvious solution to this problem is to use one of the 2 top USB ports.

Just wanted to say thanks so much. That was exactly it! Moved the mouse to the top USB port and voila, no mysterious start up upon moving the mouse.

Cheers man.

So what BIOS are you guys running these days for stability purposes? The latest and greatest or no?

[rvltion909]

:brick:

So my box was built for strictly DAW purposes. I run some pretty CPU heavy audio plug-ins (VST) and recently picked up a Q6600 to help take some of the load off. I planned to overclock it to 3.0G and although I've been able to do so...sort of... my temps seem VERY high (as in dead CPU high)!

I set the CPU to run @ 333 MHz and the lowest VCORE option (around 1.2)

My RAM says its designed to run at 1.9V 5-5-5-12 ...so I set it at that with a corresponding 667 MHz.

It posted fine and CoreTemp showed idle temps at 48-50 degrees

Next, I ran the latest version of Prime 95. Then saw the cores shoot up to 60,70 then 80....I stopped it when it hit 82 (it had run under 1 min)

The "small fft" test shot all cores up to 82 within about 6 seconds and caused a reboot.

I see posts here for load temps at around high 60's-low 70's and idle temps in the 30's. I hear people running Prime 95 for about 30min-an hour. I wouldn’t dare running it for more than a couple mins at this point.

I must be doing something wrong. I've got six friggn fans running on this thing not including the cpu fan.

Im considering "lapping" the CPU but Im not sure I want to take a risk like that yet. My temps seem to be so extreme from most of the specs I see here that I must be missing something. I might go out and get some Artic Silver (Im using some random Radio Shack knock off ATM) but I dont think that will make a 10+ degree difference.

Im actually pretty disappointed with the board (for OC purposes). Looking at Tomshardware.com I could have spent half the price and gotten MUCH better OC specs (according to their Q6600 testing) if I would have gone with an MSI.

Any ideas guys?

[t_ski]

I think part of the problem may be the Freezer Pro heatsink. Are you sure that's enough for a Quad? I'd think you'd need something bigger than that if you want to OC.

Have you checked CPU temps in the BIOS? Is that a B3 or G0 quad core CPU? Are you sure the heatsink mount is secure?

[secretworld]

:brick:

So my box was built for strictly DAW purposes. I run some pretty CPU heavy audio plug-ins (VST) and recently picked up a Q6600 to help take some of the load off. I planned to overclock it to 3.0G and although I've been able to do so...sort of... my temps seem VERY high (as in dead CPU high)!

I set the CPU to run @ 333 MHz and the lowest VCORE option (around 1.2)

My RAM says its designed to run at 1.9V 5-5-5-12 ...so I set it at that with a corresponding 667 MHz.

It posted fine and CoreTemp showed idle temps at 48-50 degrees

Next, I ran the latest version of Prime 95. Then saw the cores shoot up to 60,70 then 80....I stopped it when it hit 82 (it had run under 1 min)

The "small fft" test shot all cores up to 82 within about 6 seconds and caused a reboot.

I see posts here for load temps at around high 60's-low 70's and idle temps in the 30's. I hear people running Prime 95 for about 30min-an hour. I wouldn’t dare running it for more than a couple mins at this point.

I must be doing something wrong. I've got six friggn fans running on this thing not including the cpu fan.

Im considering "lapping" the CPU but Im not sure I want to take a risk like that yet. My temps seem to be so extreme from most of the specs I see here that I must be missing something. I might go out and get some Artic Silver (Im using some random Radio Shack knock off ATM) but I dont think that will make a 10+ degree difference.

Im actually pretty disappointed with the board (for OC purposes). Looking at Tomshardware.com I could have spent half the price and gotten MUCH better OC specs (according to their Q6600 testing) if I would have gone with an MSI.

Any ideas guys?
I´m running mine as a DAW too, with a zalmann 9500 cooler and artic silver5. Under full load I get low 60´s core temperature, at the moment @340 fsb, 350 is stable too, only the onboard network starts generating errors (any ideas anybody? I run @ stock voltages)
If you havn´t upped the voltage, I guess the high temps mean the heatsink is either to small or isn´t seated properly.
Good luck!

winxp pro sp2
P5W DH deluxe FSB340 All V auto
Conroe Q6600 G0 @3.06
"gb corsair XMS2C4 @4-4-4-12-5 2.1v 4:5 850mhz
Ati 2400pro + 2X17"

[xMrBunglex]

i ordered a Wolfdale E8400 today and wanted to know if i have to update my BIOS to run it. i currently have ver. 2205 now and see no need to flash if i don't have to. anybody know?

[P5WDHdeluxe]

@xMrBunglex: You must have the latest Bios to support Penryn with this mobo.. check bios menu on Asus Homepage under our Mobo's download link

@secretworld: what do you mean "Network card generating problems"?

[secretworld]

Thanks for asking P5WDHdeluxe!
If I open or copy a large winrar (*.rar) file over my home gigabit network I get CRC errors. Roughly 3 per gigabyte (ok not many but it just doesn´t work like that).
Things I have tried without success;
Switched from lan 1 to lan 2 port
Changed cable
loosened memory timings,
raised ram voltage
raised cpu voltage
Switched back to 100mbit
pcie fixed @100 and auto
(pci is fixed @33)

What did help is lowering the FSB from 350 to 340.
@350 the pc is 4X prime (all cores ~60°c) stable and memtest (on floppy) stable.
Vincent

[Falkentyne]

Those high temps show that you have a bad mount. Reseat the heatsink immediately. You should not have 80C temps within 6 seconds, even with an abysmal heatsink.

[DrSlump]

Thanks for asking P5WDHdeluxe!
If I open or copy a large winrar (*.rar) file over my home gigabit network I get CRC errors. Roughly 3 per gigabyte (ok not many but it just doesn´t work like that).
Things I have tried without success;
Switched from lan 1 to lan 2 port
Changed cable
loosened memory timings,
raised ram voltage
raised cpu voltage
Switched back to 100mbit
pcie fixed @100 and auto
(pci is fixed @33)

What did help is lowering the FSB from 350 to 340.
@350 the pc is 4X prime (all cores ~60°c) stable and memtest (on floppy) stable.
Vincent

What kind of cable are tou using?
Keep in mind that for 1000Mbit you should use:
Cat5/e or Cat6, generally a screened cable.
It's olso good to keep away the cable from powerline.

[secretworld]

Sure, as I said Lowering the FSB to 340 cures it so it seems that altough the network adapters are on the pcie bus, they are not influenced by the fixed pcie ratio, or the receiving chip is crapping out.

[rvltion909]

I´m running mine as a DAW too, with a zalmann 9500 cooler and artic silver5. Under full load I get low 60´s core temperature, at the moment @340 fsb, 350 is stable too, only the onboard network starts generating errors (any ideas anybody? I run @ stock voltages)
If you havn´t upped the voltage, I guess the high temps mean the heatsink is either to small or isn´t seated properly.
Good luck!



I think I will pick up some Artic Silver, and actually try popping the board out of the case and make sure its seated properly since I cant see a whole hell of allot besides the top of it (anybody else have as much trouble as I did trying to get that damn heat sink on there…that twist/turn clip technology is simply genius…..)

T Ski it’s a G0. Sorry, I should have mentioned that.

[xMrBunglex]

just installed BIOS 2504 and put in my new Wolfdale E8400 and i can't say i'm very happy right now. vCore options are either Auto or 1.45-1.70. wtfrig were they thinking?

Auto has it running at 1.225, which is really too low to overclock with. 1.45 scares me with a brand new 45nm CPU. i just wanted to put this up here to see if anyone knows something i don't.

[S1mon-]

Bunglex, with 1,225V, you should get something between 3,6-4GHz :cool:

[xMrBunglex]

Bunglex, with 1,225V, you should get something between 3,6-4GHz :cool:

you're right. i did a CMOS reset with the new CPU and didn't have my north bridge volts set right. while i would like the next BIOS to fix this awful situation, i'm now running stable at 3.6 with Vcore on auto (1.225 V). i don't think my motherboard wants to go beyond 415 FSB, but i'd like to try with this new CPU and see what i can do.

for now, i score 16,786 on 3DMark06:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4845175

[S1mon-]

you're right. i did a CMOS reset with the new CPU and didn't have my north bridge volts set right. while i would like the next BIOS to fix this awful situation, i'm now running stable at 3.6 with Vcore on auto (1.225 V). i don't think my motherboard wants to go beyond 415 FSB, but i'd like to try with this new CPU and see what i can do.

for now, i score 16,786 on 3DMark06:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4845175

Yup, I used to have a P5W DH Deluxe and it wouldn't be stable at all above 410 FSB with 1,65 vMCH... I had the first revision of the board so there's was nothing I could do except modding it...

[xMrBunglex]

i did some tweaking and got it up to 3.825 GHz (425*9). the motherboard definitely is the weak link. Vcore was only 1.225 so i know the CPU has tons of headroom.

i had to crank all my chipset volts all the way up to hit 425 FSB. i did a 3DMark06 run of 17,606 then put it back. i can't afford to fry this mobo right now. so i'm doing 400*9 stable with lower chipset volts. this will have to be my speed until i can afford an X38.

thanks for all the help, S1mon and P5W. i appreciate it.

[whoodiestyle]

i did some tweaking and got it up to 3.825 GHz (425*9). the motherboard definitely is the weak link. Vcore was only 1.225 so i know the CPU has tons of headroom.

i had to crank all my chipset volts all the way up to hit 425 FSB. i did a 3DMark06 run of 17,606 then put it back. i can't afford to fry this mobo right now. so i'm doing 400*9 stable with lower chipset volts. this will have to be my speed until i can afford an X38.

thanks for all the help, S1mon and P5W. i appreciate it.

lucky you my board cant even pass 380 fsb maxxed out chipset volts :( early adopter got me good and hit my wallet quite hard for a crappy board

[t_ski]

I think I will pick up some Artic Silver, and actually try popping the board out of the case and make sure its seated properly since I cant see a whole hell of allot besides the top of it (anybody else have as much trouble as I did trying to get that damn heat sink on there…that twist/turn clip technology is simply genius…..)

T Ski it’s a G0. Sorry, I should have mentioned that.

Yeah, if it's a G0 temps should be real low. I'd have to agree that it's probably the mount then.

[JustusIV]

Sorry if this is a bit off topic but, i am buying the E8400 from new egg as we speak for my Asus P5W DH Deluxe, but i am wondering what ram i should buy with this? i plan to over clock a bit but not to the extreme.

[P5WDHdeluxe]

Ballistic Crucial is my opinion...

[xMrBunglex]

Sorry if this is a bit off topic but, i am buying the E8400 from new egg as we speak for my Asus P5W DH Deluxe, but i am wondering what ram i should buy with this? i plan to over clock a bit but not to the extreme.

you shouldn't need more than DDR2 800 with this motherboard. the P5W just can't hit really high FSB. my motherboard is the weak link in my system for overclocking. my G.Skill DDR2 800 HK's can run faster than my mobo.

[JustusIV]

bought "G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ" I will post results

[JimmyDDD]

hey lawrywild, I used the same configuration as yours, but I am having problems. My temperature of my cpu and motherboard is at most 81 F. But for some reason it randomly reboots my pc and when i go to vista x64 to see what is going on, it never even lists a reason for the cause of the random reboot. any advice on what is going on and what I can do to fix this? Thanks

[Random Murderer]

Jimmy, what BIOS are you using? there was a somewhat recent BIOS that addressed some Vista related issues.

[JimmyDDD]

2504, i looked at bios updates but did not see any mention of that

[Random Murderer]

2504, i looked at bios updates but did not see any mention of that

the BIOS that had the fix was 1707, so you have the fix.
It's probably BSOD'ing, if you don't have it set up correctly the BSOD won't even show, your PC will just reboot. I forgot how to set it so it doesn't reboot, but a quick google search should remedy that.

[~aoe~]

In System Properties, Advanced tab, Startup and Recovery settings, uncheck 'Automatically restart' in the System failure section.

[Lurker246]

Sorry if this is a bit off topic but, i am buying the E8400 from new egg as we speak for my Asus P5W DH Deluxe, but i am wondering what ram i should buy with this? i plan to over clock a bit but not to the extreme.

Many people have used G-skill on this thread (Me included). I'm using the 6400 HZ and can definitely recommend them. They give you lots of headroom, mine go as far as 1000 Mhz 5-5-5-15, I generally keep them around 834Mhz @ 4-4-4-4 though.

[P5WDHdeluxe]

[1] While doing an average o/c i.e E6600 from 2.4 to 3.0 GHZ with this board is a good idea to disable Hyperpath & Dram Throttle?
I don't get why we should disable these 2 options but in several forums it is written that they should be off? Being Enabled these 2, is there any chance of damaging smthg?
This is an old question of mine still without answer..
anythin' on that?

[MacClipper]

This is an old question of mine still without answer..
anythin' on that?
You can try leaving them enabled but do test for rig stability cos they are probably intended to make the system faster (iirc Hyperpath tightens timings) if your components are up to scratch.

HTH.

[Random Murderer]

This is an old question of mine still without answer..
anythin' on that?

not a chance on damaging something, but throttling should be disabled for performance's sake.
Hyperpath doesn't really matter unless you hit an fsb wall.
:up:

(iirc Hyperpath tightens timings)
sort of... it changes the boot strap of the north bridge and limits the fsb by doing so.

[mister_no]

Here an new bios with Yorkfield-Support; made by me!

http://rapidshare.com/files/86220167/p5wdh2504_Yorkfield.rom.html

[Lurker246]

This is an old question of mine still without answer..
anythin' on that?


Alot of the hints & tips for overclocking this board date back to when it was released when there were alot of problems o/c'ing the board due to bad bios'.

I've played around with both settings from BIOS 2004+ as I've only been using this board since September 07 and they never effected my performance.

[P5WDHdeluxe]

thanks alot guys for your answers!
i would also to ask if there are some "Must Do" settings for every o/cing situtation for our board.

i.e "Must Do":
Pci-E: 100
Pci clock synch: 33.33

Are there any others for a safe and harmless o/c?

[secretworld]

thanks alot guys for your answers!
i would also to ask if there are some "Must Do" settings for every o/cing situtation for our board.

i.e "Must Do":
Pci-E: 100
Pci clock synch: 33.33

Are there any others for a safe and harmless o/c?
Beyond fsb290: Hyperpath3 disabled

[Random Murderer]

thanks alot guys for your answers!
i would also to ask if there are some "Must Do" settings for every o/cing situtation for our board.

i.e "Must Do":
Pci-E: 100
Pci clock synch: 33.33

Are there any others for a safe and harmless o/c?

eh, i keep my pci-e bus between 110 and 115...

[Lurker246]

eh, i keep my pci-e bus between 110 and 115...

I second that, but only if I overclock my gfx card. It's more stable running at 110 compared to 100. But if your GFX card is stock I'd use 100.

[P5WDHdeluxe]

i thought... for pci-e, everything above 100 is possible to harm (burn) your pci-e slot in a 24/7 oc/ed system because of the overvoltage on this slot....

[Random Murderer]

i thought... for pci-e, everything above 100 is possible to harm (burn) your pci-e slot in a 24/7 oc/ed system....

?
never heard that. what i do know is that sometimes it adds stability to an overclock, so i do it whether the system needs it or not...

[t_ski]

The only thing I have heard, is that if you set the PCI-e bus too high, it can mess with your SATA controller(s) and corrupt data.

[lawrywild]

The only thing I have heard, is that if you set the PCI-e bus too high, it can mess with your SATA controller(s) and corrupt data.

Which is 100% true. Even worse if you're running RAID. I leave my pci-e at 100. Over 110 and you're taking a big risk.

[xMrBunglex]

i tried 115 MHz on my P5W once and Windows wouldn't load. i have SATA RAID-0, so i put it right back to 100 MHz. i think only people with newer chipsets can overclock their PCI-E successfully anyway. 975X doesn't seem to like it.

[JimmyDDD]

if you oc do you still set it to turbo or auto

[w2richwood]

i sit mine to standard
Rich

[Cordite!]

if you oc do you still set it to turbo or auto

Trial and Error applies here mate.

Depends on system, CPU and RAM being used plus the height of the O/C.

[Cordite!]

i thought... for pci-e, everything above 100 is possible to harm (burn) your pci-e slot in a 24/7 oc/ed system because of the overvoltage on this slot....

It's stressing it more, not overvolting it !

My pardon for not using multi-qote.. [blush]

[Lurker246]

if you oc do you still set it to turbo or auto

Another one of those "strange" Asus options. I haven't noticed any difference between standard or turbo (although I only tested this in 3dmark06). I think it only has an effect if you use the Asus A.I. Overclocking.

Can anyone alse confirm this?

For the record... I leave mine set on turbo.

[ASTROBOT]

I'm just wondering if the P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2004-G0-45nm-Edition (Modified by lawrywild) support the new chip E8400 or E8500? If it does is it better than the 2504 bios? Thanks.

[JustusIV]

I just got my e8400 in, is there any way to upgrade the bios without a floppy drive?

[P5WDHdeluxe]

I just got my e8400 in, is there any way to upgrade the bios without a floppy drive?
Yes, through EZ Flash 2 with a usb key...
Check your manual for further details...

[speedyaxon]

Hey guys, weird problem I'd appreciate any help on. Just flashed my Rev. 1.02g P5W to Bios 2406. Popped in a Q6700 and got into Windows. 4 cores show in the device manager. However, only 2 cores show up in the task manager. Also, in the advanced options in the boot.ini tab in WinXP Home, I only have a maximum of 2 processors.

CPU-Z recognizes as quad, so does device manager, but it seems like everything else is seeing it still as a dual-core. (I upgraded from an E6600). I'm set as a ACPI Multiprocessor in the device manager under computer, so that's not the problem.

Any ideas on what's going on? Thanks a ton!

edit: Got it solved. I was using a modified boot.ini that was somehow preventing Windows from using the other 2 cores. I selected originial boot.ini in msconfig, rebooted, and now I have all 4.

[xMrBunglex]

I just got my e8400 in, is there any way to upgrade the bios without a floppy drive?

just extract the BIOS and save it at the root directory of your C: drive. then you can enter the BIOS and flash it from there. it's the safest way to flash imo.

Speedy, i know a guy that upgraded from a dual core to a quad and he had to reinstall Windows to make all four cores run.

[Random Murderer]

I just got my e8400 in, is there any way to upgrade the bios without a floppy drive?
yes, EZFlash is on your driver cd, it flashes from windows.
Hey guys, weird problem I'd appreciate any help on. Just flashed my Rev. 1.02g P5W to Bios 2406. Popped in a Q6700 and got into Windows. 4 cores show in the device manager. However, only 2 cores show up in the task manager. Also, in the advanced options in the boot.ini tab in WinXP Home, I only have a maximum of 2 processors.

CPU-Z recognizes as quad, so does device manager, but it seems like everything else is seeing it still as a dual-core. (I upgraded from an E6600). I'm set as a ACPI Multiprocessor in the device manager under computer, so that's not the problem.

Any ideas on what's going on? Thanks a ton!
check bios and see if there's hyperthreading and toggle it.

Speedy, i know a guy that upgraded from a dual core to a quad and he had to reinstall Windows to make all four cores run.

well, you can do that, too.
when i upgraded from my dual to a quad it was picked up right away, but i have hyperhreading disabled in bios.

[Lurker246]

just extract the BIOS and save it at the root directory of your C: drive. then you can enter the BIOS and flash it from there. it's the safest way to flash imo.

Speedy, i know a guy that upgraded from a dual core to a quad and he had to reinstall Windows to make all four cores run.

Does that work? I was under the impression EZ Flash 2 can only read from FAT drives?

[Falkentyne]

Ok guys, since no one has posted anything substantial about the LAST bios release, is BIOS 2504 worth using, or is it buggy and broken? The few posts I actually saw about this BIOS did not seem favorable at all.

And does 2504 actually detect the L2 cache on QX9650 correctly? (applications do and use it correctly (Tested in everest benchmarker, Sandra memory test, etc), but 2406 (and the one before 2406) show 0 KB, which seems to cause 3dmark to also show 0 KB :rofl:

And to the person talking about Larywild's bios,
I don't know if it works. It detected 400 something mhz for my QX9650 and completely failed to boot the system past BIOS (lockup on NVRAM if attempting to use default settings, or NO POST after trying to save and exit settings). I was able to flash to 2302 within the BIOS, though. 2004 is stable *if* it works, but i would rather use at LEAST 2302, if not 2406.

[freeza]

Question.

I just picked up an E8400 the other day, oc'd to 3.6 ghz right off the bat with 400*9, okay here's the deal.

I have g.skill pc2-6400 ram 4x2GB (8GB) and i can't seem to make the board run stable @ its rated speed (800 mhz), i have to underclock it to 600 mhz to get it working fine. i even upped ram voltages to 2.05 and still not very stable. Is this a known issue when filling all the ram slots up and/or maxing out the ram capabilities of this motherboard? Should dram thermal throttling be disabled? because it is set at auto and hyperpath 3 is set to disable, and SPD timings are set to auto because nothing else would work.

[Lurker246]

Ok guys, since no one has posted anything substantial about the LAST bios release, is BIOS 2504 worth using, or is it buggy and broken? The few posts I actually saw about this BIOS did not seem favorable at all.

And does 2504 actually detect the L2 cache on QX9650 correctly? (applications do and use it correctly (Tested in everest benchmarker, Sandra memory test, etc), but 2406 (and the one before 2406) show 0 KB, which seems to cause 3dmark to also show 0 KB :rofl:

And to the person talking about Larywild's bios,
I don't know if it works. It detected 400 something mhz for my QX9650 and completely failed to boot the system past BIOS (lockup on NVRAM if attempting to use default settings, or NO POST after trying to save and exit settings). I was able to flash to 2302 within the BIOS, though. 2004 is stable *if* it works, but i would rather use at LEAST 2302, if not 2406.

I've been running 2504 for about a week. Folding 24/7 on 3 different OS' on various different days. It's been stable as a rock and folding is flying on gutsy 64bit.

I've only had a chance to play COD 4 on XP for a couple of hours, it's been fine when playing that as well.

[Random Murderer]

Ok guys, since no one has posted anything substantial about the LAST bios release, is BIOS 2504 worth using, or is it buggy and broken? The few posts I actually saw about this BIOS did not seem favorable at all.

And does 2504 actually detect the L2 cache on QX9650 correctly? (applications do and use it correctly (Tested in everest benchmarker, Sandra memory test, etc), but 2406 (and the one before 2406) show 0 KB, which seems to cause 3dmark to also show 0 KB :rofl:

And to the person talking about Larywild's bios,
I don't know if it works. It detected 400 something mhz for my QX9650 and completely failed to boot the system past BIOS (lockup on NVRAM if attempting to use default settings, or NO POST after trying to save and exit settings). I was able to flash to 2302 within the BIOS, though. 2004 is stable *if* it works, but i would rather use at LEAST 2302, if not 2406.

I'm using 2504, no problems here. it seems stable and way better than the previous bios i was on, 1707.

[rvltion909]

:brick:

So my box was built for strictly DAW purposes. I run some pretty CPU heavy audio plug-ins (VST) and recently picked up a Q6600 to help take some of the load off. I planned to overclock it to 3.0G and although I've been able to do so...sort of... my temps seem VERY high (as in dead CPU high)!

I set the CPU to run @ 333 MHz and the lowest VCORE option (around 1.2)

My RAM says its designed to run at 1.9V 5-5-5-12 ...so I set it at that with a corresponding 667 MHz.

It posted fine and CoreTemp showed idle temps at 48-50 degrees

Next, I ran the latest version of Prime 95. Then saw the cores shoot up to 60,70 then 80....I stopped it when it hit 82 (it had run under 1 min)

The "small fft" test shot all cores up to 82 within about 6 seconds and caused a reboot.

I see posts here for load temps at around high 60's-low 70's and idle temps in the 30's. I hear people running Prime 95 for about 30min-an hour. I wouldn’t dare running it for more than a couple mins at this point.

I must be doing something wrong. I've got six friggn fans running on this thing not including the cpu fan.

Im considering "lapping" the CPU but Im not sure I want to take a risk like that yet. My temps seem to be so extreme from most of the specs I see here that I must be missing something. I might go out and get some Artic Silver (Im using some random Radio Shack knock off ATM) but I dont think that will make a 10+ degree difference.

Im actually pretty disappointed with the board (for OC purposes). Looking at Tomshardware.com I could have spent half the price and gotten MUCH better OC specs (according to their Q6600 testing) if I would have gone with an MSI.

Any ideas guys?


Got it! :yepp:

Yea...it was the heatsink setting. Im relatively new to this so...the way I set the thing was wrong (it wasnt even touching the CPU). The clips had not been locked in place. I still cant see the sense in this ancient technology sitting on a motherboard with a quadcore micro processor. :ROTF: Am I alone here? I actually wasnt able to lock one of them correctly. The amount of pressure I had to apply was ridiculous and I didnt want to chance breaking the damn board or CPU ( I saw the board begin to bend and collapse).

I literally spent about 5 hours disconnecting all the wires, removing all the screws, removing the old thermal compound, reapplying some new Artic Silver 5, placing the heatsink back in, putting the board back in the box, reconnecting all the wires, making a few more OC settings and stress testing for a bit.

My idle temp is now around 28-29. The Prime 95 stress testing reached about 50-51. I did a half ass "lapping" job on the heatsink (ran some sand paper in one direction for about 10min...the copper layer is still there but its very smooth...?)

I do have a couple questions though:

-I applied the Artic Silver 5 to the CPU and heatsink...is that ok/necessary?

-Is there any advantage or disadvantage to having the box laying on its side rather than right side up?

-After 3 minutes of Prime95 testing I received 1 error. After about 15min I moved the mouse around and got myself a reboot (any way to tell if this is due to a certain RAM setting or CPU specific?)

-I know LarryWild created the 2004 BIOS edit but I see he was not using is...? Was there any specific reason for that? Im running the most recent version on the ASUS site.

(My RAM is running at 1.9V The CPU is set to 333. VCore is set to the lowest option available)

[w2richwood]

Question.

I just picked up an E8400 the other day, oc'd to 3.6 ghz right off the bat with 400*9, okay here's the deal.

I have g.skill pc2-6400 ram 4x2GB (8GB) and i can't seem to make the board run stable @ its rated speed (800 mhz), i have to underclock it to 600 mhz to get it working fine. i even upped ram voltages to 2.05 and still not very stable. Is this a known issue when filling all the ram slots up and/or maxing out the ram capabilities of this motherboard? Should dram thermal throttling be disabled? because it is set at auto and hyperpath 3 is set to disable, and SPD timings are set to auto because nothing else would work.


try uping your nb volts one bump
Rich

[alexlyc]

Question.

I just picked up an E8400 the other day, oc'd to 3.6 ghz right off the bat with 400*9, okay here's the deal.

I have g.skill pc2-6400 ram 4x2GB (8GB) and i can't seem to make the board run stable @ its rated speed (800 mhz), i have to underclock it to 600 mhz to get it working fine. i even upped ram voltages to 2.05 and still not very stable. Is this a known issue when filling all the ram slots up and/or maxing out the ram capabilities of this motherboard? Should dram thermal throttling be disabled? because it is set at auto and hyperpath 3 is set to disable, and SPD timings are set to auto because nothing else would work.

try uping your nb volts one bump
Rich

Dont forget to cool down the nb, it will get hotter as you bump up the voltage. In my experience, the stock nb heatsink even with the included cooler isnt sufficient at stock voltage at all...
I tried 388 fsb with my Q6600 @ 1.35v, NB @ 1.65v, x9 multi, but I still haven't fully stabalize my system.

[JustusIV]

I just wanted to say thanks for helping me get my bios updated to my 2504, i ended up just putting it on a flash key and booted into bios. My bios say the key as drive c and say the new bios on there and bam installed like butta. Anways i have my new e8400 installed and my new ram and heatsink and things are looking good the one concern i have right now is that my temps seem a bit funny. I am using speedfan 4.33 and these are my readings. Cpu 13c and AUX 122c and those never change during idle or load. I am assuming the AUX reading is just a fake reading that doesn't even really exist but why is my cpu always at 13c?
Anywho, you guys have been a big help in this adventure.
thank you.

[Random Murderer]

I just wanted to say thanks for helping me get my bios updated to my 2504, i ended up just putting it on a flash key and booted into bios. My bios say the key as drive c and say the new bios on there and bam installed like butta. Anways i have my new e8400 installed and my new ram and heatsink and things are looking good the one concern i have right now is that my temps seem a bit funny. I am using speedfan 4.33 and these are my readings. Cpu 13c and AUX 122c and those never change during idle or load. I am assuming the AUX reading is just a fake reading that doesn't even really exist but why is my cpu always at 13c?
Anywho, you guys have been a big help in this adventure.
thank you.

eww, speedfan. try coretemp.

[JustusIV]

eww, speedfan. try coretemp.

Thx for the tip. I installed coretemp with slightly different results my my temps are reading 46C for one core and 40-42c on second core under load or idle. Is this strange behavior or is a good heat sink really able to keep my temp that stable? its the ZALMAN CNPS9500

22:05:01 01/26/08 3001.21 46 41
22:05:02 01/26/08 3001.21 46 41
22:05:03 01/26/08 3001.21 46 42
22:05:04 01/26/08 3001.21 46 40
22:05:05 01/26/08 3001.21 46 40
22:05:06 01/26/08 3001.21 46 42
22:05:07 01/26/08 3001.21 46 41
22:05:08 01/26/08 3001.21 46 42
22:05:09 01/26/08 3001.21 46 41
22:05:10 01/26/08 3001.21 46 41
22:05:11 01/26/08 3001.21 46 41
22:05:12 01/26/08 3001.21 46 42

Here is a quick showing of coretemp log under orthos

[Random Murderer]

that seems a bit high to me, especially for 45nm...
how much thermal paste did you use, and what kind?

[JustusIV]

that seems a bit high to me, especially for 45nm...
how much thermal paste did you use, and what kind?

Artic silver
I think i put a bit much on but the odd part to me is the temp not moving between idle and full load.

[freeza]

I upped the NB to 1.65 like yours, alexlyc. Should i up any of the other voltages too? such as ram, ICH, cpu or any others or leave it as is?

[MacClipper]

Finally made use of the 2nd PCI-E slot again, HD3870 Crossfire done successfully.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4918330

[xMrBunglex]

good stuff. now clock the hell out of them :D

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4845817

[lawrywild]

-I know LarryWild created the 2004 BIOS edit but I see he was not using is...? Was there any specific reason for that? Im running the most recent version on the ASUS site.

I was using it with my Q6600 G0 for about 3 months but then upgraded to 2406 because it runs fine for me. 2205/2206 etc didn't which is why I made that bios.

[MacClipper]

good stuff. now clock the hell out of them :D

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4845817
I would but one of the cards seem to be giving me some trouble, would you kindly share your detailed PCI-E settings? I had to revert the PEG Link Mode to Auto else Windows would hang.

[JustusIV]

Am i blind, i read the system memory and the bios section of the manual but havent seen it anywhere. I dont know how to set the speed of my memory i just installed two sticks of gskill 6400 but it detected it as 5300 or something. Can someone point me in the right direction?
Thanks for all your help guys
JustusIV

[~aoe~]

The reason POST reports PC2-5300 is because the stock FSB for your processor is 333MHz and this is what the FSB it's currently running at. It's just the way the memory is reported.

This is nothing to worry about. The memory is still rated for 400FSB.

To set the memory frequency, go to JumperFree configuration in the Advanced menu, then set AI Overclocking to Manual. You will then see the option DRAM Frequency. Here you can then set the required value.

[w2richwood]

Am i blind, i read the system memory and the bios section of the manual but havent seen it anywhere. I dont know how to set the speed of my memory i just installed two sticks of gskill 6400 but it detected it as 5300 or something. Can someone point me in the right direction?
Thanks for all your help guys
JustusIV

1:1 is still best run your ram with fsb if your gonna oc
Rich

[xMrBunglex]

to adjust your memory timings, go to Advanced / Chipset. disable Memory Timings by SPD and you'll be able to manually set your latencies if you want. this motherboard doesn't list the timings in order though. if CPU-Z shows timings as 1-2-3-4, you'll have to set them as 1-3-2-4 in this motherboard's BIOS.

[t_ski]

I actually wasnt able to lock one of them correctly. The amount of pressure I had to apply was ridiculous and I didnt want to chance breaking the damn board or CPU ( I saw the board begin to bend and collapse).

That's very normal for the board to bend and bow. If it worries you, try mounting the heatsink with the board outside the case, where you can provide some extra support for the motherboard.

I applied the Artic Silver 5 to the CPU and heatsink...is that ok/necessary?

No, it is not necessary. It is best to apply the compound directly as shown by Arctic Silver, which is a line across the cores.

Is there any advantage or disadvantage to having the box laying on its side rather than right side up?

Are you talking about the computer case? No, there's no advantage. Most heatsinks today are designed to work either horizontally or vertically.

After 3 minutes of Prime95 testing I received 1 error. After about 15min I moved the mouse around and got myself a reboot (any way to tell if this is due to a certain RAM setting or CPU specific?)

No, only by trial and error. Make one adjustment and test. If that doesn't work, change it back and try another. Don't change too much or you won't know what's messing things up.

I know LarryWild created the 2004 BIOS edit but I see he was not using is...? Was there any specific reason for that? Im running the most recent version on the ASUS site.

I believe he just moved on to one of the later BIOS files, simply because it's working well for him, perhaps better than the 2004 in his case. Sometimes, same setups may like different BIOS files. I know this was the case back in several past motherboards...

[P5WDHdeluxe]

i can't see in bios any option, if our cpu reach a specific temp.(i.e over 70c) our system to be shut down... how can i configure this one?

[mister_no]

New Bios:

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/P5WDH2602.zip

[PrinceFi]

Hi,
I don't know what I'm doing wrong but something.

I'm always having this AUTO only in CPU Vcore in bios. I've now tried several times with different bios, always cleared CMOS (with AFUDOS and with EZFlash) and after flashing bios cleared CMOS.
But I'm stuck with this AUTO option only.

Maybe somebody have an idea what is wrong with my bios settings :
http://prince.1g.fi/kuvat/bios/

[P5WDHdeluxe]

Hi,
I don't know what I'm doing wrong but something.

I'm always having this AUTO only in CPU Vcore in bios. I've now tried several times with different bios, always cleared CMOS (with AFUDOS and with EZFlash) and after flashing bios cleared CMOS.
But I'm stuck with this AUTO option only.

Maybe somebody have an idea what is wrong with my bios settings :
http://prince.1g.fi/kuvat/bios/
have you disable the EIST and C1E options under the "Cpu Configuration" Menu?

[PrinceFi]

have you disable the EIST and C1E options under the "Cpu Configuration" Menu?

Yea I have. I know that should do it, but no :(

[w2richwood]

i know you said you cleard cmos but try again by pulling power plug battery and set jumper on 2-3 for at lest ten min.s and try again
Rich

[eXcelon]

Well, I have finally got my E8400 stable at 3.6GHz. The memory listed in my sig won't boot at manual timings and with SPD enabled it fails memtest. I notice a change in stability with my MCH at 1.65, but it's still inhibiting me from overclocking any higher. I think it's time to get a new board.

IDLE Temps: 38C
LOAD Temps: 56C

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9946/92693133yh9.jpg

[Random Murderer]

if your mch is only at 1.65, you may want to up it to 1.75 and push the fsb a bit further.

[nicko]

New Bios:

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/P5WDH2602.zip

Thx for the info.

Did someone try it?

[JustusIV]

arg, is there any way to get this thing to run a raid 0 for an os without a floppy drive? i have the raid consctructed but windows needs the drivers to see it. Can i use a usb key? i have the cd but it wont extract the intel ich7r 32/64 bit raid driver drivers onto a usbkey. anyhelp is greatful
Thanks
JustusIV

*edit*
Also should i use the Intel or the Jmicron for my raid?

*edit*
Someone please stop me before it is to late if this is a bad idea.
Since i dont have a floppy drive i got a copy of the drivers i need for the raid. In there raw form not the make a floppy exe that you get from asus. Then using nlite i am going to preload the drivers for the raid. so in thoery i can boot from the cd and it should pickup my raid. any last words for me?

*edit*
Just letting everyone know worked like a charm, no floppy needed.

[eXcelon]

if your mch is only at 1.65, you may want to up it to 1.75 and push the fsb a bit further.

I forgot to mention my board is the 1st revision so I can only go up to 1.65. Also for anyone who is wondering, I am running the newest bios and haven't noticed any difference. Vcore minimum is still to high for 45nm and needs to be set to auto with bios 2602.

[evident]

hi, long time lurker of the thread, first post here

with the 2504 bios and the e8400 CPU, EIST function no longer works ,even if i enable it. So CPUZ reports me at 3.0 ghz at all times. 2602 bios completely removes that option.... so this means i can't reduce my power consumption, which is the reason why i bought this cpu? :( is anyone else having this problem?

[xMrBunglex]

*edit*
Also should i use the Intel or the Jmicron for my raid?


EZ RAID is obviously the easiest to set up and doesn't require any floppy disks or special drivers. the Intel Matrix controller is faster though. i've run both and can confirm that the Intel RAID is a little faster than the JMicron

[freeza]

i have this issue too, evident.

I wish they'd put EIST back in. I liked having it on.

[PrinceFi]

i know you said you cleard cmos but try again by pulling power plug battery and set jumper on 2-3 for at lest ten min.s and try again
Rich

I have done that also few times already :(
Btw, battery is located in wrong place, I had to take my Geforce GTX away also ;)

[JustusIV]

So i might have went a little fast in my over clocking. Turns out i am not 100% stable at 3.6ghz, the odd thing is i felt like i was stable at that speed before i oc'ed my video card, but my crashes can happen during orthos testing, but it could be it started happening when i added my hd's. a total of five in the system 3 sata, 2 in a raid0 and 1 all alone, and 2 ide on a ide controller card that was also added. Any tips for what to do for a newbie overclocker?