ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

[w2richwood]

i think the rev 101g n 102g only go to 1.65
Rich

[Mr.X]

i think the rev 101g n 102g only go to 1.65
Rich

Indeed. I flashed to the latest bios and 1.65 is as far as it goes. Should I increase the mem voltage over the rated 2.1v?

[w2richwood]

i would put a fan on them if you do i have a fan on mine with only 2.1 being pump to them
Rich

[Falkentyne]

Has anyone tried a QX9650 with the new BIOS or Larywild's modded 2004?
Any results?

[Eastcoasthandle]

This thread is interesting read it here (http://www.asktheramguy.com/v3/showthread.php?p=317664&highlight=P5W#post317664).

This is regarding 4 sticks of ram and the P5W DH

[Mr.X]

This thread is interesting read it here (http://www.asktheramguy.com/v3/showthread.php?p=317664&highlight=P5W#post317664).

This is regarding 4 sticks of ram and the P5W DH

That thread has like 3 posts. Not much to read really...

[w2richwood]

Has anyone tried a QX9650 with the new BIOS or Larywild's modded 2004?
Any results? not that i know of we well just have to wait and see
Rich

[aeternum]

Hi people, first post here.

I've had this mobo for over a year now, no big problems until recently. First suspend to ram stopped working. The power led wouldn't blink as usually and it wouldn't turn on with the power button unless I cut the power from my PSU and turned it back on.

Now I'm having difficulties just booting up normally. I had accidentally left the system without power (as in, PSU switched off) for a night after fiddling with it. It wouldn't start, no beeps, nothing. I also tried clearing the CMOS. I already gave up and left the machine alone, a few minutes later the computer boots up by itself. :confused: I'm not using any timed wakeup settings or such.

Any idea what's going on, or is my mobo just busted? My bios is 1602.

[w2richwood]

you might try clearing cmos my pulling battery put cmos jumper to 2m3 and replace battery with new one hope this helps
Rich

[Grendel66]

PSU bad ?

[Zeus]

Might as well be (one of) your memorysticks gone bad.

Try booting with just one and raise Vdimm a notch.

[aeternum]

Thanks for the replies. I kept the system powered and it booted up without problems this morning. Everything else seems to work reliably. I played Quake Wars for a few hours last night. :) No crashes, so it seems it's just the mobo acting up. Changing the battery sounds like something to try, but should it matter if the board is getting power from the PSU?

By the way, I'm running stock at the moment. I might go OC again when I need the extra heat for winter :p:

[w2richwood]

yes unplug ps before changing the battery it will clear cmos again
Rich

[turbo]

Im interested to see how the QX9650 performs on this board with the 12 X multi. It could be a great upgrade in six months when the price comes down on these processors. Low power consumption. If someone can borrow one to plug into this board for a trial I'd love to see the overclock potential.

[mikepaul]

If you wait long enough, Nehalem (http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2007/03/29/intel_penryn_nehalem_and_the_future/2) will be there to buy instead...

[Anaya]

Hello, My Spanish is bad, and my English is worst.

I have 4x1 Mushking XP2 5300 (666 / 3-3-3-10 / 2,1-2,2V)

With 340FSB they run at 4-4-4-10, 1,95V with no other Overvoltages.
With 350FSB they run at 4-4-4-10, 2,05V with no other Overvoltages.
With 375FSB they run at 4-4-4-10, 2,20V with MCH at 1,65 (1.03g) and CPU at 1,32V.
I cant make more than 375 with any other configuration unless I put SPD in AUTO.

The MB can´t post with 380FSB with 6-6-6-18 2,2V and Overvoltage in FSB/CPU/MCH

But with SPD in AUTO (5-6-6-18) with MCH at 1,65 and CPU at 1,32V, at 380FSB its fully stable (+6 hours blend Orthos) with only a 1,8V in memory. And if I use memset I can make 5-4-4-10 (I cant change CAS in Memset) at 1,8V at 760 (380FSB) with any Orthos error.

But if i put in manual, I need 2,05V at 700 (350FSB) with the same timmings.

I reprogramed the SPD (4-4-4-12 at 400FSB) of two sticks (the other two are off the computer) and reset CMOS, but the motherboard detect the same timmings.

I need to know How I can correct this problem, to have a good FSB with good timings and a razonable voltage.

Thanks.

[gwolfman]

Hi, I'm in a dilemma. I currently have obtained the following:

SL9UL 2.66 GHz QX6700 B3

But can get one of the below in exchange for the above:

SLACR 2.40 GHz Q6600 G0

My motherboard is the Asus P5W DH Deluxe (obviously, since I'm here). Which one would you want? Keep the QX6700 or opt for the cooler G0. I plan on overclocking. Currently I have the QX6700 running @ 333.33 x 10 with the Corsair Nautilus 500. Runs quite warm when loaded. Would I be able to overclock just as much with the Q6600? What's the FSB wall for the quadcores? I had trouble getting over ~380FSB with my dual core E6600 when I had that.

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated!
-GWolfman

[John600rr]

Hello, My Spanish is bad, and my English is worst.

I have 4x1 Mushking XP2 5300 (666 / 3-3-3-10 / 2,1-2,2V)

With 340FSB they run at 4-4-4-10, 1,95V with no other Overvoltages.
With 350FSB they run at 4-4-4-10, 2,05V with no other Overvoltages.
With 375FSB they run at 4-4-4-10, 2,20V with MCH at 1,65 (1.03g) and CPU at 1,32V.
I cant make more than 375 with any other configuration unless I put SPD in AUTO.

The MB can´t post with 380FSB with 6-6-6-18 2,2V and Overvoltage in FSB/CPU/MCH

But with SPD in AUTO (5-6-6-18) with MCH at 1,65 and CPU at 1,32V, at 380FSB its fully stable (+6 hours blend Orthos) with only a 1,8V in memory. And if I use memset I can make 5-4-4-10 (I cant change CAS in Memset) at 1,8V at 760 (380FSB) with any Orthos error.

But if i put in manual, I need 2,05V at 700 (350FSB) with the same timmings.

I reprogramed the SPD (4-4-4-12 at 400FSB) of two sticks (the other two are off the computer) and reset CMOS, but the motherboard detect the same timmings.

I need to know How I can correct this problem, to have a good FSB with good timings and a razonable voltage.

Thanks.

Unfortunately, their is no remedy to your problem. What you describe is the nature of the P5W-DH. Only getting a different motherboard will help.

[Funky]

hey guys, has anyone plugged 8800GT in this board.
A friend of mine is having weird issue.
The board PCI express slot works in X1 mode instead of X16 with 8800GT.
And hence his card performance is pathetic with close to 3.6k 3dmark06 score and :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty FPS in games.
Fresh install, drivers, bios everything has been tried.
Backup X1300 works just fine in X16 mode ( checked with GPUZ)

[turbo]

Good Nehalem article Mikepaul. Sounds like a big step forward in boosting memory performance. If the on die memory controller is running, won't that make the northbridge on older chipsets like this one redundant? Hard to imagine a bios upgrade will sort out the double memory controller issue. There is a rumor that the nehalem may be made in two models ie. with and without the memory controller. http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/245707-28-nehalem-compatibility
If it is compatible with the 975 chipset would the Nehalem still use 1066 or 1333 FSB like on the p5wdh?

[Khalmyr]

Hi, I'm in a dilemma. I currently have obtained the following:

SL9UL 2.66 GHz QX6700 B3

But can get one of the below in exchange for the above:

SLACR 2.40 GHz Q6600 G0

My motherboard is the Asus P5W DH Deluxe (obviously, since I'm here). Which one would you want? Keep the QX6700 or opt for the cooler G0. I plan on overclocking. Currently I have the QX6700 running @ 333.33 x 10 with the Corsair Nautilus 500. Runs quite warm when loaded. Would I be able to overclock just as much with the Q6600? What's the FSB wall for the quadcores? I had trouble getting over ~380FSB with my dual core E6600 when I had that.

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated!
-GWolfman

I wouldn't count on getting high FSBs in this mobo with a Quad man.. I'd stick with the one you already have.

[MacClipper]

Seems to have fallen off Asus latest 45nm support list. :(

[MrMonstah]

Hey guys,
I recently Flashed my Bios to the latest 2304 version, and my CPU fan now only goes at 250rpm max. Where as before it use to go to 1500rpm.

I have the TT 120 Ultra eXtreme, with an Arctic 7 120mm fan attached to it.

Anyone know of a fix?

[tompl]

i cant downgrade form 2206 to 2004, it says that bios is too old. i tried from bios and dos but both didnt help. what can i do ?

[~aoe~]

Hey guys,
I recently Flashed my Bios to the latest 2304 version, and my CPU fan now only goes at 250rpm max. Where as before it use to go to 1500rpm.

I have the TT 120 Ultra eXtreme, with an Arctic 7 120mm fan attached to it.

Anyone know of a fix?
What a strange problem.

Well, one possibility is to connect the fan directly to the PSU rather than to one of the headers on the motherboard (or through a fan controller). Alternatively, you could try one of the other headers on the motherboard. You would need to disable the warnings for CPU fan in BIOS with either of these solutions.

[w2richwood]

i cant downgrade form 2206 to 2004, it says that bios is too old. i tried from bios and dos but both didnt help. what can i do ? you need to use afudos 2.11 or earlier google it i make a boot disk then afudos and bios on the other
Rich

[w2richwood]

Hey guys,
I recently Flashed my Bios to the latest 2304 version, and my CPU fan now only goes at 250rpm max. Where as before it use to go to 1500rpm.

I have the TT 120 Ultra eXtreme, with an Arctic 7 120mm fan attached to it.

Anyone know of a fix? disable all fan controls in bios monitor rich fan should run full speed
Rich

[Lurker246]

Hi, I'm in a dilemma. I currently have obtained the following:
What's the FSB wall for the quadcores? I had trouble getting over ~380FSB with my dual core E6600 when I had that.

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated!
-GWolfman

I've done much investigating with this board and Quads. As it's a 975x mobo the FSB wall is generally between 340 - 360 depending on luck.

I can run my Q6600 G0 at 355 X 9 max but it causes the onboard audio to freak out from time to time- causing a horrible high pitch whine.

It should definitely run 333 x 9 completely stable.

[MrMonstah]

Thanks for the replies, I figured it out. IT was the CPU Q fan option. I changed it to performance mode and it now is up to speed. Just a question though, if i were to disable it, what happens?

[Gig4moller]

Then your cpu fan will run at full speed all the time.

[MrMonstah]

Is that a bad thing?? Its not noisy at all, in fact i cant even hear it at 1500rpm....

[~aoe~]

It's not a bad thing. If you're happy with the noise levels, then it will keep the cpu a tad cooler and use a tad more power.

Good spot by w2richwood - I didn't think of the Q-fan function causing the problem.

[gwolfman]

I wouldn't count on getting high FSBs in this mobo with a Quad man.. I'd stick with the one you already have.

I was worried about that. I might have to look into another motherboard and keep this one for my HTPC.

[lawrywild]

2406 Bios released. Link in a second..

http://rapidshare.com/files/71733677/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2406.rar

[gwolfman]

2406 Bios released. Link in a second..

http://rapidshare.com/files/71733677/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2406.rar

What does the 2406 add/change/fix? Any idea? I wish they would release a changelog.

[DrSlump]

What does the 2406 add/change/fix? Any idea? I wish they would release a changelog.

I've just installed the 2403 version and it resolved all the 2302 issues.. what changes could the 2406 introduce??
Maybe the penryn support (in my hardest dreams)?

[gwolfman]

I've just installed the 2403 version and it resolved all the 2302 issues.. what changes could the 2406 introduce??
Maybe the penryn support (in my hardest dreams)?

Did they fix the problem where the on-board audio couldn't be disabled?

[Gig4moller]

I've just installed the 2403 version and it resolved all the 2302 issues.. what changes could the 2406 introduce??
Maybe the penryn support (in my hardest dreams)?

Penryn is supported since 2302.

[DrSlump]

Did they fix the problem where the on-board audio couldn't be disabled?

Well i didn't verify this issue because i effectively use the onboard audio, but it resolved al other issues as:

speedstep always turned off
serial port always turned on

[DrSlump]

Penryn is supported since 2302.

In the asus compatibility list, the p5w dh as been removed :shrug:

[Gig4moller]

In the asus compatibility list, the p5w dh as been removed :shrug:

Youre right - I swear it was on their list before.

Goddamn lame :/ Now I do have to buy a new mobo.... Hmm, Asus P5E or DFI LP X38..

[w2richwood]

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it may its not out yet

[Gig4moller]

it may its not out yet

We can always hope, but the fact that it WAS on there but now removed doesn't tell much good.

[w2richwood]

yeah i dont understand the p5b.s are on there but not the p5w dh

[MacClipper]

All the 975 mobos have been bumped off the list but they are not alone, go read about the recent hooha about the nVidia chipset mobos and Yorkfield support too.

Meanwhile, we can only hope P5W makes it back somehow.

[w2richwood]

i'm not gonna complain p5w dh has served use well it's lived a long live thru many upgrades so i'm happy with it
Rich

[MacClipper]

hey guys, has anyone plugged 8800GT in this board...
Just tried it out today, no problem at all.

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w78/MacClipper/8800GT/88GT_GPU.jpg

A touch over 14K on 3DMarks06,
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=3892816

[malik22]

Can this mobo handle 4gb of ram well and how far can it oce a Q6600?

[alexlyc]

I've done much investigating with this board and Quads. As it's a 975x mobo the FSB wall is generally between 340 - 360 depending on luck.

I can run my Q6600 G0 at 355 X 9 max but it causes the onboard audio to freak out from time to time- causing a horrible high pitch whine.

It should definitely run 333 x 9 completely stable.

Can this mobo handle 4gb of ram well and how far can it oce a Q6600?

I am currently running my Q6600 G0 with 4GB of G.Skill DDR2800 HZ ram @ 380FSB and x8 multiplier, it use to be @ 355 and x9, 1:1 on both configuration ... I am sure this is all becuz of the active cooling I had on the NB/SB ;)

[Phoenix_TT]

Tried 2406 BIOS. No new BIOS options, however this BIOS for me is really bad, as I couldn't overclock at all. Anything I tried for manual settings didn't work and machine wouldn't boot.

I'm now back on 2403 and running at 3.0Ghz on a E6600 with CPU Vcore = 1.325v, mem = 2.1v and memory running with 4-4-4-12 timings.

[Chrysalis]

Guys I am considering using the onboard sound I am currently using a xi-fi

my reasons are.

some sound quality issues I still get some minor crackles even tho using unshared pci port etc.
creative bloat installed.

Does the onboard sound have as good sound quality for things like movies and music as well as good support for surround sound also does it have eax support for concert hall affects on music etc.

[nessi]

Anyone have a picture of a Asus P5W Dh Deluxe with a 40mm fan cooling at NB or SB ????

[gwolfman]

Anyone have a picture of a Asus P5W Dh Deluxe with a 40mm fan cooling at NB or SB ????

Yeah, I'll try and post it tonight when I get home if no one beats me to it.

[scaramonga]

Anyone have a picture of a Asus P5W Dh Deluxe with a 40mm fan cooling at NB or SB ????

My old setup :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/scaramonga/th_Picture059.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/scaramonga/Picture059.jpg)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/scaramonga/th_Picture058.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/scaramonga/Picture058.jpg)

[nessi]

How does it work? my motherboard is about 40c now.

[Huigie]

Tried 2406 BIOS....Anything I tried for manual settings didn't work and machine wouldn't boot.

I'm now back on 2403...

Same here...

[scaramonga]

How does it work? my motherboard is about 40c now.

28-30c with the fans :)

[nicko]

Can someone upload 2403 bios please :)
Thx!

Edit:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=110193

I read thread, but I didn't see that :P

Thx once again...

[psy4fun]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=110193


Can someone upload 2403 bios please :)
Thx!

[Eastcoasthandle]

My old setup :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/scaramonga/th_Picture059.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/scaramonga/Picture059.jpg)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/scaramonga/th_Picture058.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/scaramonga/Picture058.jpg)

Quick question:
Did you notice any performance improvements going from 975 to P35? If so can you post them (3d06, game, etc, whatever you have)?

[mikepaul]

What's holding the 40MM fan to the NB heatsink?

I'm looking for extra air for when it gets warmer again...

[~aoe~]

I'm fairly sure you can just screw a fan directly onto the nb heatsink. The spacing of the fins is generally sufficient to hold the screws.

[oscar3d]

Guys I am considering using the onboard sound I am currently using a xi-fi

my reasons are.

some sound quality issues I still get some minor crackles even tho using unshared pci port etc.
creative bloat installed.

Does the onboard sound have as good sound quality for things like movies and music as well as good support for surround sound also does it have eax support for concert hall affects on music etc.

I will not get tired of saying that the latest from Creative is an overhyped an overprice bad quality product.

Dude, if you want quality without sacrificing CPU cycles, go with the REAL soundcards from Azuentech, Blugears, or anything that has a C-MEDIA chip 8788. I can assure you won't regret it, and you'll be free form BSODs.

Creative is going downhill, and the only thing saving it is the merkethyped EAX.

Even ASUS has gone a step forward and carry the first PCI-E soundcard on the market.

[Snake_Eyes]

I made a new record for myself with a Quadcore Q6600 and the Asus P5W DH Deluxe.

Its running @ 3,5Ghz 9x389 Multiplier Vcore 1,48 in bios, and 1,42 in windows
This is on air with a Arctic Freezer 7 Pro (not Lapped) Room temps around 22 a 24c
Have only test my memory to get it lower than 5.5.5.15
Becource it can be lower.

Here a screenshot of mine.

http://members.home.nl/knight-rider-1982/Programmas/Snake_Eyes's%203DMark05.JPG

[Lurker246]

[QUOTE=Snake_Eyes;2589189]I made a new record for myself with a Quadcore Q6600 and the Asus P5W DH Deluxe.

Its running @ 3,5Ghz 9x389 Multiplier Vcore 1,48 in bios, and 1,42 in windows
This is on air with a Arctic Freezer 7 Pro (not Lapped) Room temps around 22 a 24c
Have only test my memory to get it lower than 5.5.5.15
Becource it can be lower.

:eek: Good Stuff, what Bios are you running on? How much did you give the other voltages?

I've upgraded my Bios to 2403 but haven't had a chance to play with it yet, just to see if I can squeeze any more out of it.

[mikepaul]

I'm fairly sure you can just screw a fan directly onto the nb heatsink. The spacing of the fins is generally sufficient to hold the screws.
OK, I have a leftover 40MM from my last case and I'll give that a shot. Thanks...

[Snake_Eyes]

[QUOTE=Snake_Eyes;2589189]I made a new record for myself with a Quadcore Q6600 and the Asus P5W DH Deluxe.

Its running @ 3,5Ghz 9x389 Multiplier Vcore 1,48 in bios, and 1,42 in windows
This is on air with a Arctic Freezer 7 Pro (not Lapped) Room temps around 22 a 24c
Have only test my memory to get it lower than 5.5.5.15
Becource it can be lower.

:eek: Good Stuff, what Bios are you running on? How much did you give the other voltages?

I've upgraded my Bios to 2403 but haven't had a chance to play with it yet, just to see if I can squeeze any more out of it.Yeah thanks.
I have the Bios from Lawrywild 2004 G0 with 45 mn support.
It works great..
I have set the FSB Termination to 1,40 volts
Set the MCH chipset to 1,65
and let the ICH set to AUTO.
Memory are on 5.5.5.15 but i'm testing it on 4.5.5.15 and have more perfomerance with the memorytest in Everest ultimate Edition..

I gonna make screenshots stressed and iddle but i dont have time for it now..

Hope that the 8 Phase Design hold it, becource if i feel it with my hands, its verry verry verry hot. (feeling about 80c) Stressed only.
but the chipset and cooler are cold, only the 8 phase power around the CPU are verry hot.
Is that is not a problem ??

[tktnuri]

I wanted to know if this ram will work with this board?
Kingston
1 GB PC2-8000 SDRAM 240-pin DIMM DDR2 Memory Module - HyperX Series
or

OCZ Technology Group
2 GB ( 2 x 1 GB ) - PC2-8000 / 1000 MHz - DIMM 240-pin - 2 x 1 GB DDR2 Dual Channel Is it even worth it with a E6700,currently running @ 3.0ghz, with 2GB PC2-4200 533MHz 240-pin DDR2 SDRAM but I can't seem to raise my overclock past 3.02 ghz without the system giving me a ram timing issue and shutting itself down.

If these don't work, what would be the best in the 800 MHz range, that I wont need to upgrade later.

[Lurker246]

[QUOTE=Lurker246;2589656]Yeah thanks.
I have the Bios from Lawrywild 2004 G0 with 45 mn support.
It works great..
I have set the FSB Termination to 1,40 volts
Set the MCH chipset to 1,65
and let the ICH set to AUTO.
Memory are on 5.5.5.15 but i'm testing it on 4.5.5.15 and have more perfomerance with the memorytest in Everest ultimate Edition..

I gonna make screenshots stressed and iddle but i dont have time for it now..

Hope that the 8 Phase Design hold it, becource if i feel it with my hands, its verry verry verry hot. (feeling about 80c) Stressed only.
but the chipset and cooler are cold, only the 8 phase power around the CPU are verry hot.
Is that is not a problem ??

That's a great overclock you have with a Quad on the P5W, Congrats. Tried it myself last night on BIOS 2403 but failed miserably!

Not sure about the 8 phase power or even what the average recommended temp should be?

[Huigie]

System used to be stable @ 4x900 with 4x1GB@4.4.4.12. I upped voltages, provided more cooling, whatever bios I use, looser timings, it's only stable @ 4x389. Any idea why my board clocks worse all of a sudden?

[Snake_Eyes]

[QUOTE=Snake_Eyes;2590102]

That's a great overclock you have with a Quad on the P5W, Congrats. Tried it myself last night on BIOS 2403 but failed miserably!

Not sure about the 8 phase power or even what the average recommended temp should be?
Yeah it is.
My temps are with room temps 22 a 24c and the CPU are stressed around 66 70c
I dont have used the 2403 bios.
I'm still on the Lawrywild's 2004 bios G0 Edition with 45mn support.
It works great..

I'm now testing my memory to get it to it lowest..
If i done that i post some screenshots stressed @ 3,5ghz on air with a Arctic Freezer 7 Pro.. (not lapped)

[Snake_Eyes]

Okay here a stressed screenshot with Prime95 Small FFt's
This are a Q6600 @ 3,5 1,4875 in bios and 1,42 stressed.
This with the Asus P5W DH Deluxe..
You know a Quad doesnt clock so high on a P5W DH.
but i get it on AIR with Arctic Freezer 7 Pro (not lapped)

Room temp at stress are 20c and fans @ full speed..

Here the bios settings:
Bios 2004 by Lawrywild.
FSB: 389x9 1:1 @ memory DDR2 800 Kingston HyperX CL4
Vcore in bios: 1,4875
FSB Termination: 1,40
MCH Chipset: 1,65
ICH: set to AUTO.
Memory voltage are 2,10 volt.
No EIST or C1E enabled of cource :P

Are this a nice clock or not ?
I use this overclock not for 24/7 but for benchmark.
I think i set it to 3,3Ghz for 24/7 becource i think (feel) its better :up:

Greets Snake_Eyes

http://members.home.nl/knight-rider-1982/Programmas/Q6600%20@%203,5Ghz%201,4875Vcore%20Asus%20P5W%20DH .JPG

And here the idle screenshot 2 minutes after stress..

http://members.home.nl/knight-rider-1982/Programmas/Idle%20Q6600%20@%203,5Ghz%201,4875Vcore%20Asus%20P 5W%20DH%20Kingston%20HyperX%20DDR2%20800.JPG

[Break16]

hello

why my system crash after the bootlogo from xp?

i have 4GB of this rams

2x -> Corsair XMS2 DIMM Kit 2048MB PC2-6400U CL4-4-4-12 (DDR2-800) (TWIN2X2048-6400C4)

the voltage is on 2.1 and the timings 4-4-4-12. thats from corsair and i have this also in bios.

[Masterrer]

Been following this thread (bud didn't read it all) since I bought a P5W 1.5 years ago, and only recently had done all the cooling mods, and thought that I could hit 3.3GHz easy, but to my surprise I can't get to 370MHz fsb with any ammount of voltage. The system will post, but windows won't boot.

Also very interesting is that when I get close to 370fsb, bios and windows only detect 1 core (CPU-z and all other software report only 1 core)

My settings:

Ram divider is 1:2, voltage 2.0, timings set to: configure by SPD
Hyper Link Disabled as well as all other auto overclocking features
All CPU thermal features set to disabled

From here I just bump the fsb/vcore to get a stable system:
350Mhz @ 1.4vcore = OK
360Mhz @ 1.42vcore = OK
365Mhz @ 1.42vcore = windows booted OK, 1 core detected :eek: , stopped Orthos after 30min
370Mhz @ all the way up to 1.51Vcore, bumped MCH, ICH and FSB termination one step above default, also tried 2.1v memory = Post OK, BSOD on windows boot

I am very disappointed, I spent the last 3 days hacking and sawing custom heatsinks for all the MOSFETs around the cpu, also replaced the northbridge cooler with a Zalman one, and installed 3 12cm Nexus fans blowing quite a lot of air. Also replaced everything with AS5. All temps have dropped, and the heatsinks on the MOSFETs that are located under the heatpipe on a stock mobo, and above the cpu socket, get quite hot (~42C measured with a thermocouple), which indicates a good thermal conductivity, and these MOSFETs didn't have any cooling from the factory :shrug:
The only part I didn't give proper attention is the southbridge (I couldn't get the heatsink off to lap it, considering that I replaced the thermal paste to AS5 3 weeks ago :shrug: It somehow glued together... :shrug: )

Also before all of my mods I had a chance to switch to a brand new rev 1.04g board, so I did. The BIOS version is 2206

There are so many good people on this thread, so I hope you can give some hints on what is causing the problem, because I really wanted to get 3.33GHz stable after all the effort I put in...

More details on my rig are in my signature...
Any advice appreciated!

[yoggi]

Do you recommend the Memory Remap feature to be off or on (As stated in the bios) when running Vista 64 w 4Gb Memory.

does it even make any difference with that setup?

[Gig4moller]

If it is set to disabled, your mobo won't recognize more than 3072MB, and so won't Vista.

[Masterrer]

OMG, I tried reverting from bios v 2206 to an 1506 using 2 different afudos versions (the one posted by lwarywild, and the one from the asus website) and each one gives me an error: BIOS does not support AFU
WTF?!?

I'm beginning to get frustrated here :mad: , has anyone experienced something like this?

UPDATE: Tried downloading the AFUDOS v4.xx utility from ami.com same problem

[Gig4moller]

Try using ASUSUpdate and set the options to 'allow downgrading bios'.

I have not had problems flashing BIOS with this utility.

[Masterrer]

Try using ASUSUpdatpe and set the options to 'allow downgrading bios'.

I have not had problems flashing BIOS with this utility.

Thanks for the advice,

after some research I pinned down the problem:

My motherboard uses a WINBOND W39V080FA ROM chip, and it is somehow incompatible with AFUDOS.

The asus update gives me an error:
"BIOS image can't use in this motherboard. (The EEPROM Type incompatible)"

I aslo tried the awdflash utility which states to support the winbond chip used in my mobo, bud with no success, as it keeps telling me the: bios is not award bios, even when I use the "don't check for compatibility" flag :shrug:

[Mordor]

It seems the Hothardware got a Yorkfield running on a P5W64WS which is also a 975 board, so there might be hope for the p5w dh as well :-)

link - http://www.hothardware.com/News/Intel_45nm_Yorkfield_Runs_On_975X_Motherboard/

[Break16]

hello

why my system crash after the bootlogo from xp?

i have 4GB of this rams

2x -> Corsair XMS2 DIMM Kit 2048MB PC2-6400U CL4-4-4-12 (DDR2-800) (TWIN2X2048-6400C4)

the voltage is on 2.1 and the timings 4-4-4-12. thats from corsair and i have this also in bios.

i get always a bluescreen. the system is not stable

PLEASE HELP ME PLEASE HELP ME PLEASE HELP ME :shrug:

[diexmax]

My overclock in e6300

pictures in .zip

i am brazilian, my inglesh is bad

blue screen only vcore low...


http://www.filefactory.com/file/f7da27/

[diexmax]

look

http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=superpi3lu7.jpg

in configs post above

[chron]

Ok everyone, I've been getting lockups lately and so far my best guess is that it's because of my bios version. I'm using 2403.

I bought 2x2gb sticks of ddr2-1000 from g.skill and the system didnt read all of it. I was ignorant and thought it was a bios issue so I flashed from 1901 to 2403. I could never get the sticks stable to I put my old 2gb in and I'm sending the 4gb back.

Prior to flashing to 2403, my system would run orthos stable for over 12 hours and now, orthos shuts the computer down after about an hour. This morning I woke up, turned my monitors on, opened up team speak, connected, started to broadcast to my friends, and the system froze. It's frozen a few times now.

I also recently purchased an 8800GT, which might be a cause, but I dont see how since it passes visual stress tests for over 12 hours.


Is 2403 unstable at all? Is 2004 ok for EVERYONE? I just built a system for my little brother using the same motherboard, but his still has the 1901 bios chip in it. Would it be ok to put my 2403 into his system when his is not overclocked at all?

[w2richwood]

im running bios 2403 no problems make sure you have your ram timing right and the volts
Rich

[chron]

im running bios 2403 no problems make sure you have your ram timing right and the volts
Rich

Well if you're running ok, perhaps its an 8800gt issue. I bought a preoverclocked card (its all newegg had available at the time) and now I'm thinking its freezing the system. But again, the video card passes the video stress tests.

I have noticed some freezing in game which requires a restart though.

my pus is a 700w ocz gamerXStream

[BuBBle.D]

Does anyone have a JPG that shows where to measure the Vcore on this board?

[Troop]

Hi guys,

Does this board support four gig of RAM? I have four gigs installed but the bios only reports 3200 upon boot.

If I go into the bios, it lists this.

Total: 4096
Appropriated 896
Available: 3200

Am I pretty much hosed is there some way to unleash the rest of the RAM?

Thanks in advance.

[BuBBle.D]

If you have a 32-bit OS installed it will report only 3 gigs of ram. That doesnt mean you cant use all 4 gigs, it means you can only use 3 gigs per aplication.

To "unleash" the rest of the ram you need to install a 64-bit OS.


EDIT: If you are already using a 64-bit os, then enable the memory remap function in the bios.

[Unbornchild]

it means you can only use 3 gigs per aplication.

It doesn't. It means that Windows will allow 2 full GB to the application, which is impossible (of course) with only 2GB RAM installed. With 4 GB, XP 32-bit will see and use 3.2 GB, no more.

Source http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2007/03/VistaKernel/Default.aspx?loc=en

Windows and the applications that run on it have bumped their heads on the address space limits of 32-bit processors. The Windows kernel is constrained by default to 2GB, or half the total 32-bit virtual address space, with the other half reserved for use by the process whose thread is currently running on the CPU. Inside its half, the kernel has to map itself, device drivers, the file system cache, kernel stacks, per-session code data structures, and both non-paged (locked-in physical memory) and paged buffers allocated by device drivers.

EDIT: here's another link: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555223

[BuBBle.D]

Well thanks for clearifying. I was told its 3 gig per app but it seems i need to slap the one who told me that. :P

[w2richwood]

Well if you're running ok, perhaps its an 8800gt issue. I bought a preoverclocked card (its all newegg had available at the time) and now I'm thinking its freezing the system. But again, the video card passes the video stress tests.

I have noticed some freezing in game which requires a restart though.

my pus is a 700w ocz gamerXStream

did you clean the old video driver before you installed the new card?
Rich

[alexlyc]

Hi guys,

Does this board support four gig of RAM? I have four gigs installed but the bios only reports 3200 upon boot.

If I go into the bios, it lists this.

Total: 4096
Appropriated 896
Available: 3200

Am I pretty much hosed is there some way to unleash the rest of the RAM?

Thanks in advance.

In order to fully utilize 4GB ram, you MUST be using Windows XP 64bit/Vista 64bit. Next you need to enable "Manual" overclocking mode in the BIO then enable "Memory Remap Feature". Then you will see 4GB ram in boot screen and Windows.

Steps:
1) BIO > JumperFree Configuration > AI Overclocking > [Manual]
2) BIO > Advanced > Chipset > Memory Remap Feature > [Enabled]

[Sdude]

Has anyone used this board with E6750? This board won't overclock well past 3.2ghz with any voltage. In addition, to get it to 3.2ghz stable I needed 1.425vcore.

[lawrywild]

Well thanks for clearifying. I was told its 3 gig per app but it seems i need to slap the one who told me that. :P

It is technically.. but Windows is an app itself ;)

[t_ski]

hello

why my system crash after the bootlogo from xp?

i have 4GB of this rams

2x -> Corsair XMS2 DIMM Kit 2048MB PC2-6400U CL4-4-4-12 (DDR2-800) (TWIN2X2048-6400C4)

the voltage is on 2.1 and the timings 4-4-4-12. thats from corsair and i have this also in bios.

i get always a bluescreen. the system is not stable

PLEASE HELP ME PLEASE HELP ME PLEASE HELP ME :shrug:

Does it crash with only 2GB installed?

Has anyone used this board with E6750? This board won't overclock well past 3.2ghz with any voltage. In addition, to get it to 3.2ghz stable I needed 1.425vcore.

I have an E6850 in mine, and I can OC to 3.6 GHz (400 MHz FSB) easily, but TBH I never tries to go further.

[BulldogPO]

2406 bios clocks very badly at my old board.

[malik22]

Does this board oce well with 4gb of ram?

[BulldogPO]

Does this board oce well with 4gb of ram?

Not big difference wit 2 or 4 sticks.

BTW, has anyone tested P5W DH with Penryns, like QX9650?

[pleenmeel]

Hello fellowmodders.
Yesterday my voltmodded P5W died.
When I took a close look at the board I saw the volt. regulator at dimm 3 was burnt.
Also the Cap. near de vdroop mod did not seem well.
The red arrows in the pic point out the 2 components.
Can any of you guru's tell me what replacement components I can put there?

[w2richwood]

i would rma it to asus you have three years from the day you bought it
Rich

[Sdude]

I have an E6850 in mine, and I can OC to 3.6 GHz (400 MHz FSB) easily, but TBH I never tries to go further.


Can you post your bios settings?

[pleenmeel]

I bought the board as a package deal with a cpu and memory on ebay. I live in the netherlands and I bought it from an american seller. So I can;t send it back.

I Think i'm going to buy the maximus formula.
Anybody got suggestions for a good oc board.

Thanks

[tktnuri]

I wanted to know if this ram will work with this board?
Kingston
1 GB PC2-8000 SDRAM 240-pin DIMM DDR2 Memory Module - HyperX Series
or

OCZ Technology Group
2 GB ( 2 x 1 GB ) - PC2-8000 / 1000 MHz - DIMM 240-pin - 2 x 1 GB DDR2 Dual Channel Is it even worth it with a E6700,currently running @ 3.0ghz, with 2GB PC2-4200 533MHz 240-pin DDR2 SDRAM but I can't seem to raise my overclock past 3.02 ghz without the system giving me a ram timing issue and shutting itself down.

If these don't work, what would be the best in the 800 MHz range, that I wont need to upgrade later.

[Snake_Eyes]

I wanted to know if this ram will work with this board?
Kingston
1 GB PC2-8000 SDRAM 240-pin DIMM DDR2 Memory Module - HyperX Series
or

OCZ Technology Group
2 GB ( 2 x 1 GB ) - PC2-8000 / 1000 MHz - DIMM 240-pin - 2 x 1 GB DDR2 Dual Channel Is it even worth it with a E6700,currently running @ 3.0ghz, with 2GB PC2-4200 533MHz 240-pin DDR2 SDRAM but I can't seem to raise my overclock past 3.02 ghz without the system giving me a ram timing issue and shutting itself down.

If these don't work, what would be the best in the 800 MHz range, that I wont need to upgrade later.Yes the Kingston HyperX works good on the Asus P5W DH board.
See my sig, i'm use Kingston to..

[malik22]

Has anyone tried a Yorkfield with this bios P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2004-G0-45nm-Edition (Modified by lawrywild)

[s1nykuL]

Firstly let me say thank you to the contributors to this thread... Helped me a lot.

I thought I would offer my experience of installing HD3870 in this board after using a X1900XT Crossfire setup.

I removed all ATI drivers and software, shutdown and powered off the PSU. Then removed both my X1900 cards and installed the HD3870 in the master PCI-e graphics slot. After powering up I was locked out at the logon prompt(I connect to a home network and authenticate to a server) by the failure of both the keyboard and mouse. Windows appeared to have locked up.

Anyhow, I messed about for 4 - 5 hours with various boot CDs trying to make things work. Even after reinstall and trying the card in the other PCI-e slots There were lots of problems with undetected hardware and failures of other hardware on the PCI Bus.

I finally reset the mainboard BIOS. ....... And now everything is perfect.

Now the hopefully helpful part of this post is:

If you upgrade to 3870(possibly any PCI-e 2.0 card) from a 1900 Xfire setup, and you have problems, reset the P5W DH BIOS *BEFORE* spending 5 hours diagnosing and fault finding.

[w2richwood]

very good find thank you for posting this may save someone from pulling there hair out
Rich

[matomatala]

Would this motherboard support somehow intel core 2 extreme QX9770 processor?

would it even POST?

[R@ptor =]]]

Hey guys, can you help me???
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=168630
I need a help to do overclock too...can you help me?
I am from brazil, my english is very bad, sorry :down:
Thanks a lot!

[matomatala]

Would this motherboard support somehow intel core 2 extreme QX9770 processor?

would it even POST?

Anyone!?! :confused:

I Have a QX9770 in my desk and would like to test if works somehow with this board as well..

[Gig4moller]

Anyone!?! :confused:

I Have a QX9770 in my desk and would like to test if works somehow with this board as well..

I'm almost certain noone here has tried. Why don't you and let us know! I don't think anything can go wrong simply putting it in and trying to boot.. :)

[matomatala]

I'm almost certain noone here has tried. Why don't you and let us know! I don't think anything can go wrong simply putting it in and trying to boot.. :)

mmm.. that's the plan. Problem is this board does now support 1333 MHz FSB, but QX9770 uses 1600 MHz FSB.

Thing just is, can something go wrong and brake this mot*er*uck*ng board?? :D

[jimmsch]

I think the worst that will happen is it will refuse to POST. The risk of any permanent damage to your mobo is practically zero.

My question here is: This board was once displayed on Asus' 45nm compatible mobo list, but I do not see it there any more. Is it 45nm compatible? If so, what is the first BIOS to support 45nm?

[Gig4moller]

I think the worst that will happen is it will refuse to POST. The risk of any permanent damage to your mobo is practically zero.

My question here is: This board was once displayed on Asus' 45nm compatible mobo list, but I do not see it there any more. Is it 45nm compatible? If so, what is the first BIOS to support 45nm?

The first bios to officially support it (as was on the site) is 2302.

Also, some site managed to get a QX9650 working on the P5W64 WS Pro even though it wasn't "officially" supported, so normally this applies to the P5W DH as well.

To matomatala, I don't think anything can go wrong besides it not POSTing like mentioned above. It will probably boot with a lower FSB if at all.

[R@ptor =]]]

];2612090']Hey guys, can you help me???
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=168630
I need a help to do overclock too...can you help me?
I am from brazil, my english is very bad, sorry :down:
Thanks a lot!
Pleassee guys, i need helpppp :( :(

[matomatala]

My question here is: This board was once displayed on Asus' 45nm compatible mobo list, but I do not see it there any more. Is it 45nm compatible? If so, what is the first BIOS to support 45nm?

Exactly. I am wondering the same thing. But i think i'm gonna try it on this borad and post the results here.

Then well see...

[Gig4moller]

];2612656']Pleassee guys, i need helpppp :( :(

It is normal that the actual voltage (like you can read in CPU-Z) is lower than the one you set in the BIOS. Don't worry about it.

[R@ptor =]]]

So the actual voltage in the cpu-z is correct??
setting 1.3400v in the bios its ok for this overclock?

[Gig4moller]

];2612863']So the actual voltage in the cpu-z is correct??
setting 1.3400v in the bios its ok for this overclock?


We can't know if 1.34 is enough - it is different from CPU to CPU. You must stress-test it to know if it's stable, and if it is, your 1.34v is enough.

[gwolfman]

Are my temps too high?
68448

Screenshot taken after running prime95 25.5 for about 1 hour. It seems a bit high, especially since I'm running the Corsair Nautilus 500 for my CPU cooler. Do these temps sound about right for a QX6700 @ 3.33GHz? Anyone have the link to the vdroop pencil mod again? I know I can lower my vCore since I drop about 0.06V on vCore at 100% load after a while. And lowering my vCore should help my temps some.

[WeldZilla]

Those temps are too high! you should stay in the low 60's at full load over time to make me happy. Oh and less would be better. I would be working on the introduction of more air to that cooler. What do you idle at? perhaps your fit up is not perfect.


WZ

[t_ski]

Can you post your bios settings?

I would have to double check most of them, but I remember setting the CPU vcore to 1.45v, the mem to 2.15v, max the MCH and FSB term, the ram timings had to be set to SPD, and I disabled the Hyperpath 3. Now, TBH I don't know if all these settigns needed to be applied, but I as afetr a quick and dirty overclock just to get it running. I do know the CPU needed at least 1.45v, because 1.4v wasn't stable.

[Rippermac]

I used to read this post everyday and learned quite a bit in the setup and o/c my board and I thank every poster for it..now my new problem..yesterday my system started acting a little strange..followed by a bsod..rebooted and got past the bios but would bsod again going into windows..tried safe mode still no luck..removed 1 stick of RAM and system finally booted..so I thought..bad stick of RAM..shut down system later on and started again about an hour later..now bios doesn't see my RAID setup..I make sure all my settings are correct in bios and try again and again but still my RAID array is not seen..I don't even get the option to setup RAID..nothing!! So I reset the CMOS and the patient is even worse!! Machine turns on by itself as soon as I apply power!! I get no screens...nothing!! I remove everything connected to my m/b and try RAM, Vid and hdd..but the problem stays the same..I even disconnected all fan headers, case power but as soon as main power is applied m/b starts..removed vid, RAM, hdd from board but as soon as main power switch is turned on..same problem..I figure if I could get into the bios I would be able to do something but I have had no luck getting pass this issue..I think the board is shot and am ready to buy another..anybody agree with me? Thanks
Rip

[pee4]

I used to read this post everyday and learned quite a bit in the setup and o/c my board and I thank every poster for it..now my new problem..yesterday my system started acting a little strange..followed by a bsod..rebooted and got past the bios but would bsod again going into windows..tried safe mode still no luck..removed 1 stick of RAM and system finally booted..so I thought..bad stick of RAM..shut down system later on and started again about an hour later..now bios doesn't see my RAID setup..I make sure all my settings are correct in bios and try again and again but still my RAID array is not seen..I don't even get the option to setup RAID..nothing!! So I reset the CMOS and the patient is even worse!! Machine turns on by itself as soon as I apply power!! I get no screens...nothing!! I remove everything connected to my m/b and try RAM, Vid and hdd..but the problem stays the same..I even disconnected all fan headers, case power but as soon as main power is applied m/b starts..removed vid, RAM, hdd from board but as soon as main power switch is turned on..same problem..I figure if I could get into the bios I would be able to do something but I have had no luck getting pass this issue..I think the board is shot and am ready to buy another..anybody agree with me? Thanks
Rip

After I enabled "allow remote control to boot/shutdown PC" or something like that in the Remote Control software (inside windows), everytime I turned the PC's power on at the wall the PC would start booting. I disabled this again (inside windows) and everything returned to normal.

[Rippermac]

Thanks but I can't even get into XP or anything else right now

[crazeconnolly]

Hi all.

i have an Asus P5W DH Delux. with an E6600 Conroe.
I was thinkin of buying a quad core Cpu such as the Q6700.
Im running Bios 2302
Would my board be ok. Is anyone running a system with these 2 components.


c

[w2richwood]

there are people running q6600 not sure of the 6700 but should be about the same
Rich

[matomatala]

Hi all.

i have an Asus P5W DH Delux. with an E6600 Conroe.
I was thinkin of buying a quad core Cpu such as the Q6700.
Im running Bios 2302
Would my board be ok. Is anyone running a system with these 2 components.


c

Your board is ok. Q6700 is 65nm, 1066MHz, LGA775.

[crazeconnolly]

Thanks Rich (again lol) and mat.


sweet

[w2richwood]

np some have got 3.6 on there quads seems to help if you have the later rev 103g or 104g boards
Rich

[Terru]

I got 3.4ghz on my q6600 GO, but I cannot seem to get past 380FSB. With 1:1 ram ratio

[w2richwood]

thats a good clock for a quad i would be happy with it
Rich

[FritzGuy]

Hello to all

I seem to be having issues overclocking this Cpu Mobo combo... It is an E2180 along with the P5W-DH Deluxe, OCZ Reaper PC26400 at 800 MHz timed 4-4-4-15 stock along with an 8800 GT, I have the cpu cooled with a ZALMAN CNPS7700-Cu, so I'm not really wooried about heat yet, also have a fan on the NB, trying to keep that sucker down.

When I try to get the CPU to 3.0 Gigs at 1.25 v all the rest at auto except I have disabled hyperpath 3, windows Vista keeps blue screaning on me but I do pass 3Dmark..odd stuff I find, also when I try to get 3.4 Gig at 1.425v again the rest at default except again hyperpath3, the system wont even boot.

I would love to get it at 3.6Gig but I don't think this Mobo will let me do that.

Would love some help, I have read alot of these pages but it seems to just address the e6600 ( don't have one..tight budget )

Also I have failed to mention the 3.0 Gig setup was with default multiplier.

Many Thanks

[w2richwood]

under jumper free set your ram for 1 on 1 lower and pci-e 100 or 101 pci to 33 you manufacters ram volts nb 1.65 fs 1.2 bump up mch also
Rich

[crazeconnolly]

Does anyone know how to enable 4GB of memory on this board.

im running 32bit vista ultimate.

specs below


c.

[gwolfman]

Those temps are too high! you should stay in the low 60's at full load over time to make me happy. Oh and less would be better. I would be working on the introduction of more air to that cooler. What do you idle at? perhaps your fit up is not perfect.


WZ

I think I idle in the 40s, but I'll check again tonight and post a screenshot. Thanks.

[Gig4moller]

Does anyone know how to enable 4GB of memory on this board.

im running 32bit vista ultimate.

specs below


c.

In any way, you won't be able to see all your 4gb in vista 32. You will need to switch to 64 bit for that.

However, you can already try to enable Memory Remap in bios to see if that helps.

[FritzGuy]

Is this a pretty good setup ?

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2582/testcpuys4.th.png (http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testcpuys4.png)

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1707/testcpuzzy2.th.png (http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testcpuzzy2.png)

it seems fine...just not to sure about it.

[crazeconnolly]

does anyone here run Vista 64bit.. does it run just as good as 32bit?



c

[gwolfman]

Are my temps too high?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=68448

Screenshot taken after running prime95 25.5 for about 1 hour. It seems a bit high, especially since I'm running the Corsair Nautilus 500 for my CPU cooler. Do these temps sound about right for a QX6700 @ 3.33GHz? Anyone have the link to the vdroop pencil mod again? I know I can lower my vCore since I drop about 0.06V on vCore at 100% load after a while. And lowering my vCore should help my temps some.

Those temps are too high! you should stay in the low 60's at full load over time to make me happy. Oh and less would be better. I would be working on the introduction of more air to that cooler. What do you idle at? perhaps your fit up is not perfect.


WZ

Here are my idle temps:

68536

Any ideas?

Also, where is the link to pencil mod for vdroop?

[lawrywild]

does anyone here run Vista 64bit.. does it run just as good as 32bit?



c

Better..

[Falkentyne]

GOOD NEWS AND BAD NEWS

Good:
THE QX9650 WORKS WITH THE P5WDH. I'm using it right now at stock. I have no time to mess around with overclocking. Voltage control works (bumped it up to 1.4v, will lower it later). Using 2403 BIOS. Also there is FULL multiplier control apparently (not tested), so I suspect the MP issue is also fixed with the older chips, where it got broken with 1602+

Bad news:
ATTN: Larywild:
THIS CHIP DOES NOT WORK with your modified BIOS! And I suspect many other 45nm chips also will not work. With your BIOS, it detected a 600 mhz CPU, said ucode error, and any attempt to save any settings in the BIOS and exit, caused the computer to not POST ever again, until a CMOS reset.

I was able to download the 2403 BIOS and flash that (somehow the Ez flash utility still worked right after a CMOS reset) and it STILL didn't post, but after I cleared CMOS AFTER the flash: Presto=)

[w2richwood]

thanks Falkentyne thats good news for most of use nice to know
Rich

[MacClipper]

GOOD NEWS AND BAD NEWS
Thx for the info, it looks all good to me, awaiting your further updates. :)

[UZ7]

Is this a pretty good setup ?

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2582/testcpuys4.th.png (http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testcpuys4.png)

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1707/testcpuzzy2.th.png (http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=testcpuzzy2.png)

it seems fine...just not to sure about it.

seems okay... if you're gonna stay at those speeds then try tightening up your memory timings for improved performance

ie: currently im not gaming as much so im running at 333x9 (3.0GHz) and i have ram timings at 3-3-3-8 :P

[BulldogPO]

GOOD NEWS AND BAD NEWS

Good:
THE QX9650 WORKS WITH THE P5WDH. I'm using it right now at stock. I have no time to mess around with overclocking. Voltage control works (bumped it up to 1.4v, will lower it later). Using 2403 BIOS. Also there is FULL multiplier control apparently (not tested), so I suspect the MP issue is also fixed with the older chips, where it got broken with 1602+

Bad news:
ATTN: Larywild:
THIS CHIP DOES NOT WORK with your modified BIOS! And I suspect many other 45nm chips also will not work. With your BIOS, it detected a 600 mhz CPU, said ucode error, and any attempt to save any settings in the BIOS and exit, caused the computer to not POST ever again, until a CMOS reset.

I was able to download the 2403 BIOS and flash that (somehow the Ez flash utility still worked right after a CMOS reset) and it STILL didn't post, but after I cleared CMOS AFTER the flash: Presto=)

Have you tried any overclocking yet?
It propably wont overclock.

[Gig4moller]

This made my day :D

[Falkentyne]

Forget the overclocking. I'm having another problem, and it's serious.
Unfortunately, I don't think anyone is going to be able to help with this, and I could be just completely screwed, but here goes...

Basically, the system is **SLOW**.
It seems to be using something like 1% of the available processing power.
It's FINE in safe mode, but NOT in normal mode.

I'm currently not at that system, but I did a 1M SuperPi run and I think it completed in something like 3 minutes and 48 seconds. I checked Speedfan and Coretemp, and the temps were going up by a whopping TWO degrees at best. I think speedfan went from 34C idle to 35C with Superpi/4 prime threads.

I ran Prime with 4 threads, and the temps went up by again, like 1C or something. I think the cores read: 31C, 32C, 27C, 30C.

When I did the same thing in safe mode, Speedfan went up a LOT more, to 48C. Also, the 1M SuperPi score was around 15.8 seconds...a LOT better than 3 minutes.

Is this a BIOS bug or something? (CPU-Z identifies the CPU, cache and etc correctly). Is this a problem with windows, that can be fixed somehow?

Note: EVERYTHING runs at proper speed if I disable 2 cores in the boot.ini, where the NUMPROC switch is. The problem is when I remove that switch and boot with all 4 cores.

Any suggestions, people? I updated to 2406 with no change.
I need to know if this is a BIOS bug, or is my OS improperly configured somehow, after using a Core 2 X6800 for a year?

I'll buy a new board if I have to, but I want to make SURE it's the board or the BIOS first.

This may not be of help, but why does System Properties, in control panel, say this? (again sorry no screenshots):

Computer:
Intel Core 2(TM) Extreme
CPU X9650 @ 3.00 ghz
360 mhz, 2.00 GB of RAM <---------???
Physical Address Extension <---------??? wth....

360 mhz?
PAE? WHAT? T_T

I changed the multiplier from 9 to 10, and that "360 mhz" became 400 mhz. (core speed was reported at 3.33 ghz).

On my older single core system, that exact same location had the CPU string for 3.4 ghz (P4 extreme Northwood), and showing 3.61 ghz. (yes, overclocked a bit, forgot the exact settings, but 3.6 ghz in BIOS).

:shrug:

[MacClipper]

When I did the same thing in safe mode, Speedfan went up a LOT more, to 48C. Also, the 1M SuperPi score was around 15.8 seconds.

Looks more like a driver bug than a hardware problem if Safe Mode works well.

Tried a clean install or another OS... erm, Vista?

[crazeconnolly]

Better..


does it still run 32bit programs just as good also?
Will i have to re-activate windows when i install a new processor?


c

[Unbornchild]

Computer:
Intel Core 2(TM) Extreme
CPU X9650 @ 3.00 ghz
360 mhz, 2.00 GB of RAM <---------???
Physical Address Extension <---------??? wth....

You actually have 2 GB RAM installed? Or is it 4 GB. Then you'd see Physical Address Extension (PAE): http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/server/PAE/PAEdrv.mspx

http://home.planet.nl/~dekk0819/downloads/PAE.jpg


About your problem, Did you enable memory remapping in BIOS?

[Falkentyne]

I have 2 gigs of RAM installed. (2*1 GB of G.skill).
I've tried turning on and off remapping, doesn't do anything.

NOTE, in SAFE MODE, Windows not only does NOT show PAE, it also shows the real CPU speed. But in normal mode, it thinks it's 400-500 mhz.

I think I had that type of performance when I used Intel PAT on my X6800 and set the CPU duty cycle to 87.5%...well then again it was still a lot faster (UT2004 was perfectly playable at that speed).

FWIW, I'm running on 2 cores now and things are running fine so far. (for some reason I had to install new Catalyst drivers or I got blue screens in UT2004 with 2 cores disabled (huh?). I'm at 3.6 ghz and 1.3v (haven't tried lower or higher). If the 4 core thing is a bug, I want it fixed. If it's something with my windows installation, well, huh...... O_O

I tried a repair install, (not a clean install; I can't stand redownloading everything from scratch, HOWEVER I do have a clean empty E: drive...maybe if I'm bored I'll install windows on THAT from scratch later on) that took forever, and even the repair install didn't solve anything (except made my Windows updates uninstallable without that workaround from microsoft for update+repair installations).

It DOES sound like a sort of driver bug, but it doesn't make sense.... why would the OS think my CPU is 400 mhz, but CPUZ finds the real speed ? Not sure what Coretemp reports....My system is completely up to date with windows updates....

If the clean install tomorrow doesn't work, then its CLEARLY a BIOS bug...eitiher that or Yorkfields only work on Vista? (doesn't seem like thats the case...). My gut feeling says it's 70% a BIOS issue. Unless someone else has seen this and can replicate it somehow....

And, why does disabling 2 cores make everything work as it should? (EXCEPT even with 2 cores running, the identification in system properties still says 360-400+ mhz, AND PAE enabled O_O.....) If it says that with 2 cores, why can't the system run at full speed with 4? T_T

[Unbornchild]

If you must disable PAE but your system processor supports hardware-enforced DEP, add /NOPAE /NOEXECUTE=alwaysoff to your Boot.ini file. Note: This will disable the DEP feature on your computer.
People who also have 4 GB installed can also add /MAXMEM=2048 in the boot.ini



EDIT: sorry Falkentyne for i'm not posting anything usefull info for your problem, i'm only mumbling :D .... your question pointed me to the PAE i saw on my Maximus system...

Hey, Asus didn't take the P5WDH off the 45nm support page for nothing!

[mikepaul]

Hey, Asus didn't take the P5WDH off the 45nm support page for nothing!
Hey, what did I miss??? I want a new CPU next year, and I had my heart set on one of the NEW ones. Not a new motherboard too...

[Unbornchild]

Has been posted many times, mikepaul. See ---> http://event.asus.com/mb/45nm/

[DrSlump]

I have 2 gigs of RAM installed. (2*1 GB of G.skill).
I've tried turning on and off remapping, doesn't do anything.

NOTE, in SAFE MODE, Windows not only does NOT show PAE, it also shows the real CPU speed. But in normal mode, it thinks it's 400-500 mhz.

I think I had that type of performance when I used Intel PAT on my X6800 and set the CPU duty cycle to 87.5%...well then again it was still a lot faster (UT2004 was perfectly playable at that speed).

FWIW, I'm running on 2 cores now and things are running fine so far. (for some reason I had to install new Catalyst drivers or I got blue screens in UT2004 with 2 cores disabled (huh?). I'm at 3.6 ghz and 1.3v (haven't tried lower or higher). If the 4 core thing is a bug, I want it fixed. If it's something with my windows installation, well, huh...... O_O

I tried a repair install, (not a clean install; I can't stand redownloading everything from scratch, HOWEVER I do have a clean empty E: drive...maybe if I'm bored I'll install windows on THAT from scratch later on) that took forever, and even the repair install didn't solve anything (except made my Windows updates uninstallable without that workaround from microsoft for update+repair installations).

It DOES sound like a sort of driver bug, but it doesn't make sense.... why would the OS think my CPU is 400 mhz, but CPUZ finds the real speed ? Not sure what Coretemp reports....My system is completely up to date with windows updates....

If the clean install tomorrow doesn't work, then its CLEARLY a BIOS bug...eitiher that or Yorkfields only work on Vista? (doesn't seem like thats the case...). My gut feeling says it's 70% a BIOS issue. Unless someone else has seen this and can replicate it somehow....

And, why does disabling 2 cores make everything work as it should? (EXCEPT even with 2 cores running, the identification in system properties still says 360-400+ mhz, AND PAE enabled O_O.....) If it says that with 2 cores, why can't the system run at full speed with 4? T_T

Hi, it seems a driver related problem.
Two tries:
one, try a 64 bit live linux distro, it's simple and fast: download the live linux, put into your drive, reboot and start it :)

two, try a clean windows vista install, better if 64 bit.

Good luck :)

[lawrywild]

does it still run 32bit programs just as good also?
Will i have to re-activate windows when i install a new processor?


c

Yes.

Possibly.

[mikepaul]

Has been posted many times, mikepaul. See ---> http://event.asus.com/mb/45nm/
Like I say, I didn't notice any postings discussing the list being changed, and I see that the list doesn't include the DH Deluxe so I'm seriously annoyed that my good feelings towards this MB from back when it WAS listed were unfounded...

[Gig4moller]

Like I say, I didn't notice any postings discussing the list being changed, and I see that the list doesn't include the DH Deluxe so I'm seriously annoyed that my good feelings towards this MB from back when it WAS listed were unfounded...

Check the previous page :)

[whizmsm]

how good is the onboard audio that comes with the p5w dh? I was thinking of adding a AuzenTech Auzen X-Fi Prelude 7.1 sound card. Is that a worthwhile investment? (I would most likely be using the digital output). How much of an increase would i be looking at in terms of quality of sound?

[mikepaul]

Check the previous page :)
New rule: visit daily, read carefully.

Thanks...

[lawrywild]

how good is the onboard audio that comes with the p5w dh? I was thinking of adding a AuzenTech Auzen X-Fi Prelude 7.1 sound card. Is that a worthwhile investment? (I would most likely be using the digital output). How much of an increase would i be looking at in terms of quality of sound?

If you have speakers worth more than the Auzentech card costs then it's worth it but if you have cheap speakers then don't bother.

[Falkentyne]

Well I'm installing windows on a completely clean drive right now. But I completely expect this NOT to work. I'm convinced this is a BIOS problem.

Just to let you know, with 2 cores, (NUMPROC=2) when I was using Rybka (chess engine, multiprocessor), Core 0 showed 46 C while core 1 showed 31 C -.- Setting the affinity for both processrs of rybka to core 1 made its temp go to around 34C only -.- (core 0 dropped to 39C). Definitely something whacky here. And this is with me overclocked to 3.6 ghz and 1.3v.

I HOPE u guys are right and it's a driver problem.

The only real good news I have is that my windows installation is going FAST. Its gone from 39 minutes to 19 minutes, in 5 minutes.
When I did the repair install, I swear it took 20 minutes to go down 5 minutes...... >.>

*edit again*
more good news i guess, so far...39 minute installation completed in 8 minutes .....
I'll let you know after all the chipset drivers are installed and I have SuperPi running...

ok windows installation took 10 minutes. fastest install ever....
And it reports the CPU speed correctly and all 4 cores shown.
But now I have to install chipset drivers and other stuff...let's see how far i get before something explodes again.....

[crazeconnolly]

Yes.

Possibly.


Thanx Mate. Installed Home Premium 64bit and used my 32bit key.
everything seems to be running ok. All i gotta do is get proper cd/dvd burning software.


c.

[Falkentyne]

Ok well looks like you guys are right.
it DOES seem to be a driver problem. but WHAT ? T_T......

I still have catalyst drivers and x-fi drivers to install...

I really don't get it, though...what sort of driver problem could possibly cause a system to choke on 4 cores? It would be nice if any search anywhere found a problem like this and a solution~_~

I could just use this HD as the master and nuke windows on the IDE one connected to the jmicron port, but so many programs to reinstall -.-...at least nothing would have to be redownloaded, but still...I would rather find out what exactly caused this to happen in the first place.

You people have "switched" out a dual core for a Quad, with no problems whatsoever (in the same motherboard), right?

*EDIT*
Found out something else:

On the CLEAN windows install, there is NO "PAE" thing showing in system properties. It simply shows Core 2 extreme (TM) X9650 (no Q) @ 3.00 ghz, 3.6 ghz, 2.00 GB RAM.

in my boot.ini, there's only "noexecute=optin" and "/fastdetect". Yet PAE is NOT on. (and thats how it SHOULD be).

On my "usual" install, as I said above, PAE *IS* on, (unless i force it off by /NOPAE /noexecute=AlwaysOff), and CPU speed is wrong and system is a dog.

So its clearly the same "driver problem" affecting both. But what could it possibly be?

[MacClipper]

huh, PAT or PAE?

[Falkentyne]

Sorry PAE.
I've been up all night so I'm like very tired right now and can't think anymore....

The new install of windows works perfectly. No slowdowns and no PAE And CPU reported currently as 3.6 ghz (OC).

I'm back at the old install for the moment, trying to figure out WHAT exactly is broken. Needless to say, I wont be reinstalling windows again if I break the 'old' installation somehow; I'll just use the new one then copy the files over.

I STILL want to know exactly what is causing this though...but it seems no one here has ever encountered such a problem, on these forums or elsewhere....once again I'm on my own =(

I will ask again:
Has everyone else gone from dual core to Quad effortlessly on 32 bit XP, on the same motherboard?

[MacClipper]

Sorry PAE.
I've been up all night so I'm like very tired right now and can't think anymore....

The new install of windows works perfectly. No slowdowns and no PAE And CPU reported currently as 3.6 ghz (OC).
Great to see that.

So just to confirm that if you deactivate PAE on your old setup, everything works OK?

Has everyone else gone from dual core to Quad effortlessly on 32 bit XP, on the same motherboard?
No problem going from E6300 -> E6750 -> Q6600 on mine but it's most unlikely I am getting a retail QX9650 to try.

[Falkentyne]

The old setup is dead. Nothing works to fix it. My attempts last night were to try to uninstall everything in device manager, until I nuked the PCI bus, which gave me e a dead keyboard and mouse, even in safe mode. :rofl: Thus the repair install, which of course gave me full windows control back, but didn't fix anything cpu speed. I gave up trying to fix it. I'm just going to use the new windows install then copy files over and reinstall whatever games need to be reinstalled. Most of my save games should be fine, as most of the stuff I play doesn't copy anything to the windows folder anyway.

I still wish i knew what happened, though. I see posts ALL the time about people popping in a quad in place of their dual and they're off to the races. Yeah, I was off to the races too...riding on snails....

And no, forcibly disabling PAE did nothing to fix my problem. CPU still reported 432 mhz when set to 3.6 ghz in control panel >.>

For the good news, I'm at 3.7 ghz and 1.3v (1.27 reported) and 370 FSB (multi changed to 10). I tried 4 ghz (400 * 10) and 1.4v just to be safe, but the system (surprise, surprise) failed to even POST whatsoever. And I bet you my left and right foot that has NOTHING to do with the CPU. Running 4 thread prime with small fets, and no problem. CPU#0 reports 52C, CPU1 45C, CPU2 36C <--huh?_?, CPU3 50C.

Who knows how far this chip can go on a current board?
The P5W is famous for acting weird past 370 FSB especially when you start changing multipliers. I'll mess around with higher multis to see if I can run at 4 ghz or not. But at the moment, I'm happy. The fact that I was able to reach 3.7 ghz, and STILL *might* be able to lower the vcore, shows that the P5W *CAN* clock quads pretty well. (I don't think many people were able to get the qx6800 much higher than this). But the 975X's FSB quirks are really annoying. I'll reach 4 ghz (hopefully stable) obviously, but who knows what multiplier/FSB contortions it will take T_T. Clearly its the board's fault that won't make it POST at 400 * 10....

On my X6800, it needed OUTRAGEOUS amounts of voltage (like over 1.65v) to POST continuously at 370 * 10... (most of the time it didn't post at lower voltages), but if it DID POST, it ran fine.

I had absolutely NO problems posting 100% of the time at 337 * 11 (same speed), although it was not game stable at 1.575v ...

[MacClipper]

at 3.7 ghz and 1.3v (1.27 reported) and 370 FSB (multi changed to 10)

Nice, looking good for 24/7 duty but what are your other settings and what Vcore is reported if set to Auto? I am a EIST/C1E fanatic. :D

btw, so are you using 2403 or 2406 for the BIOS and have you tried SPD/401FSB (loosens the NB timings) instead of 400?

PS: some have reported load balancing quirkiness in quads on certain stress apps, do a forum search for the thread.

[Falkentyne]

I have no idea about Auto. I've never once touched that setting except after a BIOS flash.

I'm using 2406. Thank god they fixed that rediculous upward multiplier bug; who knows what speed i would be limited to if I had to do something like 420 FSB just for 3.7 ghz (9*400 would be 3.6g). The sad thing is it took Asus a YEAR to fix it. Sort of reminds people about Nexon and Maple story, in the level of support....

I don't feel like dealing with no POST issues right now so I'll try 3.8 ghz later...

[w2richwood]

thankz for sharing all your work and eford with use looking good
Rich

[MacClipper]

I don't feel like dealing with no POST issues right now so I'll try 3.8 ghz later...

Easily dealt with - just make use of the Save Profiles in the BIOS.

Save your present settings in any of the 2 available slots, change o'c settings all you want - just clear the CMOS and reload the profile to get back to your present settings any time you run into problems.

[yoggi]

Bios 2406 sets the multiplier on E6600 sometimes to 8 by default.

Guess Asus still can´t build a proper bios.

Sigh

[Gig4moller]

Thanks for all those efforts Falkentyne - So you think with a clean windows install 45nm CPU's will work like a charm (overclocking issues left aside) on this mobo?

[Falkentyne]

Gig4moller:

MY CHIP DOES 4 GHZ ON THE P5W !!

It's the absurd FSB limitations that are screwing up everything!
400 * 10 did NOT post. I don't even want to DREAM About how bad the chip would clock on its default 9 multiplier...probably no higher than 9*370 or something...

370 * 10 was perfectly stable at 1.3v.
380 * 10 was unstable even at 1.38v ! Kept getting either random errors in one of the prime threads or roundoff errors or something after awhile.
And 1.3v to 1.325v simply *locked up* the system hard after a few iterations.

Now I was sitting here thinking I may have a worse chip than evga2000 that won't do 4 ghz at ANY voltage...then I suddenly remembered why I paid $1300 for a chip...

I cranked up the multiplier to 12 and the FSB DOWN to 334.
Yielding 4.01 ghz.
System POSTED (!!), went into windows, ran Prime and laughed at my incompetence. It was the freaking FSB that was holding everything back -.- No idea if more VMCH on the northbridge would have helped but who cares...I have an XE chip....

The temps started getting too hot though, at 1.3875v on the Tuniq heatsink. One of the cores started pushing 72C, then I figured ok that's enough. I have a 4 ghz capable chip, that can probably do a helluva lot more on a board without stupid FSB problems. I'm currently attempting prime at 1.35v at the same speed (4013 mhz). I'm not after 24 hour prime stability anyway, just game stability. If one of the cores doesn't error out in 30 minutes with prime, then I'm good to go. (I will have to find 3dmark 2006 somewhere and run that just to be sure).

So, in summary, YES it works FINE on the P5W! Just be prepared to keep the FSB low and the MP high if you expect it to clock. Unlocked multipliers FTW.

I think it goes without saying that people with locked Multis will want to look at a P35 or X38/48 board, since you WILL be held back. Don't the non extreme quads allow limited multiplier adjustment, BTW?

[Gig4moller]

Only downwards multiplier adjustments I think. Thanks man, good to know ^^ I think I will be fine with 8x370 on a Q9450 :)

[MacClipper]

The P5W DH lives on!

Don't see 333FSB for a quad as much of a disadvantage for a 24/7 rig cos I am running my Q6600 on my main PC at 9 x 333FSB too.

1. it allows the use of Auto Vcore with EIST/C1E, 3GHz@1.25v down to 2GHz@1.125v 24/7
2. tight timings of 3-3-3-8@667 at low Vdimm
3. low mobo voltages all round needed even with 4 x 1GB of RAM
4. still kills my E6750@450FSB@3.6GHz@Commando at number crunching

So 333FSB isn't all that bad esp. now that cheap HD3870 can be crossfired at 8x8 on the P5W for a very viable gaming rig still.

Good job done, Falkentyne. :)

[Mordor]

Thanks for the testing Falkentyne - looks like my board can live a bit longer :-)

[DrSlump]

Gig4moller:

MY CHIP DOES 4 GHZ ON THE P5W !!

It's the absurd FSB limitations that are screwing up everything!
400 * 10 did NOT post. I don't even want to DREAM About how bad the chip would clock on its default 9 multiplier...probably no higher than 9*370 or something...

370 * 10 was perfectly stable at 1.3v.
380 * 10 was unstable even at 1.38v ! Kept getting either random errors in one of the prime threads or roundoff errors or something after awhile.
And 1.3v to 1.325v simply *locked up* the system hard after a few iterations.

Now I was sitting here thinking I may have a worse chip than evga2000 that won't do 4 ghz at ANY voltage...then I suddenly remembered why I paid $1300 for a chip...

I cranked up the multiplier to 12 and the FSB DOWN to 334.
Yielding 4.01 ghz.
System POSTED (!!), went into windows, ran Prime and laughed at my incompetence. It was the freaking FSB that was holding everything back -.- No idea if more VMCH on the northbridge would have helped but who cares...I have an XE chip....

The temps started getting too hot though, at 1.3875v on the Tuniq heatsink. One of the cores started pushing 72C, then I figured ok that's enough. I have a 4 ghz capable chip, that can probably do a helluva lot more on a board without stupid FSB problems. I'm currently attempting prime at 1.35v at the same speed (4013 mhz). I'm not after 24 hour prime stability anyway, just game stability. If one of the cores doesn't error out in 30 minutes with prime, then I'm good to go. (I will have to find 3dmark 2006 somewhere and run that just to be sure).

So, in summary, YES it works FINE on the P5W! Just be prepared to keep the FSB low and the MP high if you expect it to clock. Unlocked multipliers FTW.

I think it goes without saying that people with locked Multis will want to look at a P35 or X38/48 board, since you WILL be held back. Don't the non extreme quads allow limited multiplier adjustment, BTW?

Would you like to try these settings (assuming ddr2 800 ram):


JUMPERFREE CONF.

CPU FREQ. = 400
DRAM FREQ = DDR2 800 (1-1)
PERF. MODE = STAND.
PCI-EXP = 100
PCI CLOC = 33.33
MEMORI = 1,9 (depends on voltage indicated for you ram)
CPU CORE = 1,400 (try lower first)

FSB = AUTO
MCH = 1,55 (depending on stability you obtain)
ICH = AUTO

CPU CONFIG

CPU RATIO = 9
MICROCODE UPD. = ENABLED
MAX CPUID UPD. = DISABLE
EXECUTE DIS. FUNC. = DIS.
ENHANCED C1 CONT. =DIS.
CPU INTER. THER. CONTROL =AUTO
VIRTUAL. TECNO. = DIS.

RAM

Ras,Cas, ecc ,depending on your ram

DRAM ECC = DIS.
HIPER PATH = DIS.
DRAM THROTTLING = DIS.


PEG BUFFER = AUTO
LINCK LATENCI =AUTO
PEG ROOT CONTR. = AUTO
PEG LINK MODE = AUTO (slow is better)
SLOT POWER = AUTO


this settings should let you to post @ 3600Mhz. If your processor is stable, try to raise the moltiplier to 10.

[Falkentyne]

10*360 was already stable. There was never any problem with that. Even 10*370 was stable @ 1.3v. It was going HIGHER that started giving problems. 10*380 wasn't fully prime stable even at 1.3875v, and I didn't like the temps, and 10*400 didn't post. But at a 12 multiplier, I had the system actually post at 4.36 ghz (accident; didn't know the FSB was that high), didn't even bother to TRY going out of BIOS; no way I'm going to try to make that stable on a 975X...would be a big fight between trying to find out if the prime crashes were caused by the CPU or the FSB >.>
But it ran perfectly at 4 ghz and 1.3875v at a 12 multi. But the temps got too high so I'm lowering the voltage a tad. I reached my goal anyway--4 GHZ with a quad :)

I've settled on 12*333 (4 ghz) and 1.3625v for gaming and stock (9*333=3 ghz) for 24/7. When I upgrade the board to something that can clock quads on a HIGH FSB without puking, then I'll see how far the chip can truly go. I don't want to have to test a 15 or 16x multiplier to try go past 4 ghz, at a rediculously low FSB >.>

I don't expect I will be able to hit 4.5 ghz on air, even on a X48, without insane amounts of voltage (I'd have to toss the Tuniq and get an Ultra 120 Extreme or that other new HS people are using, for anything above 1.4v)

[MacClipper]

Previous discussions on FSB vs GHz on graysky's thread,
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=147433

imo, running 4GHz@333FSB is a great achievement already on this old mobo - Striker users woulld prob. be envious. :)

[phillydee]

Hey guys. I've been using the P5WDH for almost 6 months now, thanks to Lawry and this great thread.

A few days ago, my PC did not POST after shutting down from the night before. I managed to trace it to 1 of my RAM sticks (I have Crucial Ballistix PC-8500 tracers). I know it's the RAM because, 1) I pull out the offending stick and the PC boots. 2) I put the offending stick in, and it doesn't POST. Nada. Nothing. 3) I trade out the RAM sticks and nothing, again.

After putting all my settings back to default, I ran memtest85+ on the 'working' RAM. I am getting errors on 2 blocks. It seems those two blocks are faulty. I'm currently in the process of getting an RMA for the pair, but had the following question:

In all my months of tweaking, I never pumped up the mem voltage, or freaked out the timings. These chips are rated at 2.2v, at default CAS reads 5-5-5-15 according to memtest and CPU-Z. Could the motherboard have damaged the RAM? It's hard to believe that it's my 2nd pair of defective crucial sticks. Has anyone else had similar problems?

Thanks for any input.

BTW aside from memory problems, I'm pretty happy with the Ballistix PC8500.

[Unbornchild]

That is what recently happened to my 2GB Corsair kit. I'm afraid the P5WDH's volt-instability is the cause for it. I had 2.1v in BIOS, recently i noticed AIBooster was showing 2.2v ( a few days before the RAM died). RMA'd the kit, i now have the new ones at 1.95 in BIOS, AI booster shows 1.95 as well.
Btw, while waiting for the RMA-returning i temporary had 2GB Ballistix PC2-8500 in it, at 1.95. Ran like a charm.

This board officially supports 800Mhz RAM, 1066 'native' (= when you overclock). In the case of using PC2-8500 RAM on this board at 1:1 and timings 5-5-5-15 you're not overclocking at all, rather underclocking. Chips are rated 2.2v for a heavy workload. Give it less volts i'd say.

[Chrysalis]

Falkentyne PAE is enabled by windows if it uses DEP or needs to utilise 36 bit of ram this is documented on microsofts website. I have the PAE in my system control panel applet on my core 2 duo 6420 with 2 gig of ram.

The question is how are you utilising DEP with PAE off? or is DEP not actually on. (you may be running software DEP mode)

[experttech]

I am planning to buy this RAM (G.SKILL 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail ) - does anyone have any experience on how this performs on the P5W DH Deluxe mobo?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231122

Any better suggestion around the same price?

[Falkentyne]

I have absolutely no idea.
I reinstalled windows on a clean HDD And now everything works fine and PAE is off.

I did find out what was causing the super slow speed (and yes it was somehow throttling).

It was Intel TAT.
When I installed that on the new install, the system started doing it again. I didnt even have to run TAT for it to start doing it, but running TAT caused "Invalid CPU" error and an exit. Uninstalling TAT fixed it the first time but when I reinstalled it then uninstalled, I was still at "360 mhz" until I rebooted windows.

How could TAT cause THAT much of a slowdown, just by having the driver installed?

[MacClipper]

Most interesting, iirc TAT was not meant for desktop use in the 1st place. Wonder if it causes the same grief on other newer chipsets with QX9650.

[gwolfman]

Is this the correct link for the vDroop pencil mod?
http://www.benchzone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=36

I thought there was a different site as well...

[Unbornchild]

I am planning to buy this RAM (G.SKILL 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail ) - does anyone have any experience on how this performs on the P5W DH Deluxe mobo?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231122

Any better suggestion around the same price?I have no experience with them, but P5WDH manual mentions 256 ~ 1 GB modules support. It could be that the density of 2 GB sticks is too much for the board. If i were you i'd take 4 x 1GB.
In the manual of my Maximus specifically is mentioned 2 GB sticks are supported.

[rvp]

Unbornchild, are you sure ? My manual says:

2.4.2 Memory Configurations
You may install 256 Mb, 512 MB, 1 GB or 2 GB unbuffered ECC/non-ECC DDR2 DIMMs into the DIMM sockets.

[Unbornchild]

Jeezzz i picked the wrong manual dammit!, i was quoting from the P5AD2E-Premium manual Page 2-14, item 2.4.2. :p:
Of course you're right! :up:

Edit: and i couldn't find the right manual but just found out i hid it in the P5AD2E-P box! :D And yes of course i read it too, 2 GB sticks supported. :)

[megabit]

I have this MB in a dual boot computer (XP x86 / Vista x64). Under XP, when using Vegas rendering, I cannot get full utilization of the Quad I have... Or to be more precise: when I set Vegas video to 8bit, it renders at 100%, but in the 32bit video mode - only some 50-60% (still all 4 cores, though).

Under Vista x64, I'm always getting 100%.

This makes me think something is wrong with the 4GB of RAM management. Vista x64 can use it all, how much is XP supposed to use? In the system properties, it says 3.0 GB -- shouldn't it be some 3.2GB?

Whitch switches do you have in the boot.ini file? I only have "/noexecute" and "/fastdetect". What is PAE and how it should be used? Ach, anf of course I have RAM remappring feature enabled (so that Vista can see all 4 GB of it); tried to disable and see how it affects XP - no diffeence...

If it's not the memory management, than perhaps some BIOS prob? But is it possible the same BIOS settings are OK for one OS and bad for another?

Any help greatly appreciated - I have to work under XP for some time, as some other apps do not work under Vista x64, and hate to think I'm wasting a lot of time rendering HDV in a non-optimized fashion

[gwolfman]

Is this the correct link for the vDroop pencil mod?
http://www.benchzone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=36

I thought there was a different site as well...

Still waiting for an answer regarding the above...

Also, what type of pencil am I supposed to use? HB? or a softer one?

[Unbornchild]

Here's another one: http://sg.vr-zone.com/?i=3876

[holwill]

Still waiting for an answer regarding the above...

Also, what type of pencil am I supposed to use? HB? or a softer one?

If I remember correctly it is a 2B you need for the mod and it works nicely to.

[phillydee]

That is what recently happened to my 2GB Corsair kit. I'm afraid the P5WDH's volt-instability is the cause for it. I had 2.1v in BIOS, recently i noticed AIBooster was showing 2.2v ( a few days before the RAM died). RMA'd the kit, i now have the new ones at 1.95 in BIOS, AI booster shows 1.95 as well.
Btw, while waiting for the RMA-returning i temporary had 2GB Ballistix PC2-8500 in it, at 1.95. Ran like a charm.

This board officially supports 800Mhz RAM, 1066 'native' (= when you overclock). In the case of using PC2-8500 RAM on this board at 1:1 and timings 5-5-5-15 you're not overclocking at all, rather underclocking. Chips are rated 2.2v for a heavy workload. Give it less volts i'd say.

Hey thanks a lot a LOT for this, I couldn't return to the forums as quickly as I'd liked. I am thankful for the input and I will also be looking into getting a stable voltage regulator that actually WORKS.

I will definitely try 1.95v in the BIOS.

[BuBBle.D]

Still waiting for an answer regarding the above...

Also, what type of pencil am I supposed to use? HB? or a softer one?

Yes, it works. Ive done the mod a few weeks ago. Measuring vCore with miltimeter shows absolutely NO vdroop in idle or under load after the mod.
1,375 vcore in bios is 1,374 real for me. And i didnt have a 2B pencil at hand when doing the mod so you will be fine with any pencil.

[lawrywild]

Hey guys. I've been using the P5WDH for almost 6 months now, thanks to Lawry and this great thread.

A few days ago, my PC did not POST after shutting down from the night before. I managed to trace it to 1 of my RAM sticks (I have Crucial Ballistix PC-8500 tracers). I know it's the RAM because, 1) I pull out the offending stick and the PC boots. 2) I put the offending stick in, and it doesn't POST. Nada. Nothing. 3) I trade out the RAM sticks and nothing, again.

After putting all my settings back to default, I ran memtest85+ on the 'working' RAM. I am getting errors on 2 blocks. It seems those two blocks are faulty. I'm currently in the process of getting an RMA for the pair, but had the following question:

In all my months of tweaking, I never pumped up the mem voltage, or freaked out the timings. These chips are rated at 2.2v, at default CAS reads 5-5-5-15 according to memtest and CPU-Z. Could the motherboard have damaged the RAM? It's hard to believe that it's my 2nd pair of defective crucial sticks. Has anyone else had similar problems?

Thanks for any input.

BTW aside from memory problems, I'm pretty happy with the Ballistix PC8500.

lol, one set of my Ballistix died tonight. Been running at 2.1v.. Atleast they're still covered by warranty. Just more unwanted hassle I don't need... :(

[BuBBle.D]

Yeh this board also killed my 2 Cellshock stick a month ago. The PC just did not post after turning it on in the morning. Been running them at 2.2 volts. The strange thing was that both of the sticks were dead, which left me worried that it likes to kill ram at higher vdimm. Oh and also the board overvolts your ram so 2,2v in bios for example is 2,25v real.

Currently running 4 sticks at 758hz 3-3-3-6 at 2.15 (2.2) real for a few weeks and so far so good. Hope they dont die on me (again) soon.

[lawrywild]

Yeh this board also killed my 2 Cellshock stick a month ago. The PC just did not post after turning it on in the morning. Been running them at 2.2 volts. The strange thing was that both of the sticks were dead, which left me worried that it likes to kill ram at higher vdimm. Oh and also the board overvolts your ram so 2,2v in bios for example is 2,25v real.

Currently running 4 sticks at 758hz 3-3-3-6 at 2.15 (2.2) real for a few weeks and so far so good. Hope they dont die on me (again) soon.

Ya it was both sticks here too. Just got an RMA No from Crucial so hopefully get the new pair back before christmas.. My Vista x64 is causing hell for these 2GB..

[experttech]

No one using this RAM?

I am planning to buy this RAM (G.SKILL 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail ) - does anyone have any experience on how this performs on the P5W DH Deluxe mobo?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231122

Any better suggestion around the same price?

[Mr.X]

I decided to skip the new quadcores and just go ahead and buy a Q6600. I just couldn't resist anymore. What BIOS works best for OC'ing the Q6600?

[w2richwood]

im using 2403 seems to be stable but i dont have a quad but it will support quad cores. maybe someone with a quad will come a long
Rich

[bichi]

I decided to skip the new quadcores and just go ahead and buy a Q6600. I just couldn't resist anymore. What BIOS works best for OC'ing the Q6600?

- no radical OC
- 2406 is stable with Q6700, G0, at 3.0ghz for two months now
- temps nice and cool at extended full loads, unlike old QX6700 B3
- old P5WDH rev 1.02g/66M0AG
- FSB: 300; multi: x10
- OCZ OCZ2G11002GK 2x1gB or 4x1gB; PC2-8800; vDIMM = 2.15vdc; 500mhz; 3:5; 5-5-5-15/18; 6113/6093
- eyeballing QX9650 45nm, since reading successes with this old board....

[p5wdh]

Please send me the working settings for e6750 with 550watts hec powersupply and corsair 3gb ddr2 800 bios 2406...thanks

[crazeconnolly]

Hi all

I am upgrading my pc with the Q6700. I wanted to get a new air cooler. At the moment i have a Sythe Ninja. What would be the best Air Cooler to keep this cpu cool while overclocking a little. I had looked at the Tuniq Tower. Are there better Coolers than this? Help appreciated.


c.

[w2richwood]

from what i've heard thermal right ultra 120 extreme is the best that what im using but i dont have a quad but it works great with my e6700 at 3.4 34c idle 56 57 load
rich

[firsttimmer]

Hi Bichi,

Would you mind sharing your FSB/Multilpier settings for your 3.0 OC? I just got my q6700, and i am running 266x10, but when i first booted, it was running 266x8. With BIOS 2406, i am able to change the Q6700 multiplier between 6 to 10.

Am i doing this correctly?

Thanks


Tom



- no radical OC
- 2406 is stable with Q6700, G0, at 3.0ghz for two months now
- temps nice and cool at extended full loads, unlike old QX6700 B3
- old P5WDH rev 1.02g/66M0AG
- FSB: 300; multi: x10
- OCZ OCZ2G11002GK 2x1gB or 4x1gB; PC2-8800; vDIMM = 2.15vdc; 500mhz; 3:5; 5-5-5-15/18; 6113/6093
- eyeballing QX9650 45nm, since reading successes with this old board....

[crazeconnolly]

Hi all

Over the past few days i ahve been on various forums inquiring about the Q6700 and the Q6600 chips and their compatibility on the P5W DH Delux. A member of overclockers gave this opinion

" 975X can get up to 300 FSB + Quad without too much trouble, but higher than 350 is a challenge. Inbetween 300 - 350 usually doable. You shouldn't have a prob getting 3 Ghz out of a Q6600 but I wouldn't guarantee higher than that. The P5W DH has a lot of BIOS updates though so I'd check out Xtremesystems and other overclocker forums to see if there have been any advances in 975X + Quad overclocking "

Would i be able to get 3ghz or more from a Q6700 on my board seeing as it has a 10X multiplier. Help much appreciated as it will encourage my decision on purchase.

c.

[megabit]

Sorry guys for shameless bumping my post below, but would like to hear you opinions!

I have this MB in a dual boot computer (XP x86 / Vista x64). Under XP, when using Vegas rendering, I cannot get full utilization of the Quad I have... Or to be more precise: when I set Vegas video to 8bit, it renders at 100%, but in the 32bit video mode - only some 50-60% (still all 4 cores, though).

Under Vista x64, I'm always getting 100%.

This makes me think something is wrong with the 4GB of RAM management. Vista x64 can use it all, how much is XP supposed to use? In the system properties, it says 3.0 GB -- shouldn't it be some 3.2GB?

Whitch switches do you have in the boot.ini file? I only have "/noexecute" and "/fastdetect". What is PAE and how it should be used? Ach, anf of course I have RAM remappring feature enabled (so that Vista can see all 4 GB of it); tried to disable and see how it affects XP - no diffeence...

If it's not the memory management, than perhaps some BIOS prob? But is it possible the same BIOS settings are OK for one OS and bad for another?

Any help greatly appreciated - I have to work under XP for some time, as some other apps do not work under Vista x64, and hate to think I'm wasting a lot of time rendering HDV in a non-optimized fashion

[crazeconnolly]

XP can only see 3GB of ram. I had the same problem. I also have a dual boot xp x86 / vista x64.

[Gig4moller]

I have /3GB and /PAE switches added to my boot.ini line.

[Unbornchild]

XP can only see 3GB of ram. I had the same problem. I also have a dual boot xp x86 / vista x64.
No, 3.5 GB.
Dep enabled, memory remapping enabled.
PAE:

http://home.planet.nl/~dekk0819/downloads/PAE.jpg

[megabit]

How do you enable PAE and dep - sorry for such basic questionsm but what the do?

[megabit]

OK - I read about PAE and DEP. If I understood correctly, my boot.ini file should have these:

/noexecute=alwayson /pae

Now the System properties says 3,00 GB, Physical Addess Extension.

However, the system still only sees 3,00 GB of RAM. I tried to add the /3GB switch as well, but at the last stage of Windows XP booting, the ATI CCC crashes the system (BSOD). What's wrong?

I also tried to optimize my page file; first I wanted to check its I/O by adding a counter to the Performance-> Counter logs. However, when trying to choose "Page file" as the performance object, I'm faced with a very strange thing: instead of the many object names list, I have numbers only (interes, like 1150 etc). Something went wrong with my system, or is there a fix for it?

[Mr.X]

I just put in the Q6600 I had ordered but I the multi doesn't want to change for some reason. I set it to 8 in the BIOS but it's still 9. Why is this happening?

[jimmsch]

Would i be able to get 3ghz or more from a Q6700 on my board seeing as it has a 10X multiplier. Help much appreciated as it will encourage my decision on purchase.
c.

I see no reason why you wouldn't be able to do this. I would even bet that you could do a bit more with that 10X multi.

Having said that...nothing is guaranteed above stock. All the luck of the draw.

[Falkentyne]

My DH can do 370 FSB no problem with my QX9650. I think I did 370*10 and 1.3v. The voltage may be able to be lowered if I were at 3.7 ghz with a close to 333 FSB instead, since 333 * 12 is stable at 1.3625v for 4 ghz.

380 * 10 was VERY hard to do even at 1.3875v, and I refused to go higher. A core on prime95 quad would crap out within 5-10 minutes. I forgot if 1.3v froze the system hard or not but I think 1.3v and 1.325v both froze hard.
It goes without saying that 400 * 10 was a no post.

Nothing like this happens at 333 FSB at the same mhz.
I'm not sure why 370 *10 is doable with my Quad on the DH while others can't go above 350, though....but again notice the voltage bump required and that 380 * 10 did not get 100% stable, while 333 * 12 was MORE stable (fully) at less vcore.

[Sdude]

Anybody know what Dram Throttling Threshold does?

[lawrywild]

OK - I read about PAE and DEP. If I understood correctly, my boot.ini file should have these:

/noexecute=alwayson /pae

Now the System properties says 3,00 GB, Physical Addess Extension.

However, the system still only sees 3,00 GB of RAM. I tried to add the /3GB switch as well, but at the last stage of Windows XP booting, the ATI CCC crashes the system (BSOD). What's wrong?

I also tried to optimize my page file; first I wanted to check its I/O by adding a counter to the Performance-> Counter logs. However, when trying to choose "Page file" as the performance object, I'm faced with a very strange thing: instead of the many object names list, I have numbers only (interes, like 1150 etc). Something went wrong with my system, or is there a fix for it?

If you're trying to get 4GB to show in Win XP/Vista x86, it will NEVER happen.. don't bother trying, just switch to x64

[lawrywild]

Just updated to 2406 bios from 2004 and clocked my Q6600 back up to 3Ghz. Seems to work perfectly.. usually I'm one of the people who gets problems with the bioses but this time it's not me..yay :D

[atko]

Hello everybody

I found this amazing thread (and forum) :up: about p5w dh deluxe MB

My system configuration is listed below:
p5w dh deluxe (1602 bios version)
c2d E6300@1,86 Ghz
3 GB RAM
WD 320 GB SATA
ati radeon x1650 ...etc

I have some problems (like slow boot etc) and questions.
Of course, I'm going to read first post now, it contains most very important information :up:

I want to fix problems and improve performance of my computer.
That is why I need Information and I am sure this is the right place for getting them.

Regrads
atko

[romfi]

All, this might be an old news, just thought I'd share anyway
Just got reply from ASUS support on my question about QX9650 support:

----------- start quote ------------------
Dear Valued Customer,

Sorry, sir, currently this motherboard does not support this CPU, but we are working to upgrage a new BIOS which can support this CPU, please keep updated from us.


Sincerely and Merry Christmas,

Cooper
ASUS Customer Service Center (Shanghai , China)

-------------------- end quote -------------------------

Take it for what it is worth. These guys are pretty responsive and from my experience (may be I am just lucky) they eventually deliver what they promise. It might take time though :-). My take that it won't happen until Intel releases new 45nm CPUs early next year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_future_Intel_Core_2_microprocessors)

I did had a chance to play with 45nm CPU on this board using BIOS 2403. I managed to get it up and running and in general it works as advertised - ~20% or more performance gain vs my old QX6700 (B3), ~30W less power consumption, etc. BIOS is clearly not there though - it required CMOS reset each time it did not like the changes I made in the CPU configuration in the BIOS. In particular, it hated me fiddling with the ratio multiplier.

[Gig4moller]

But other than the ratio stuff it ran fine and you were able to overclock it?

Awesome news if they can make this true.

[Falkentyne]

All, this might be an old news, just thought I'd share anyway
Just got reply from ASUS support on my question about QX9650 support:

----------- start quote ------------------
-------------------- end quote -------------------------

Take it for what it is worth. These guys are pretty responsive and from my experience (may be I am just lucky) they eventually deliver what they promise. It might take time though :-). My take that it won't happen until Intel releases new 45nm CPUs early next year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_future_Intel_Core_2_microprocessors)

I did had a chance to play with 45nm CPU on this board using BIOS 2403. I managed to get it up and running and in general it works as advertised - ~20% or more performance gain vs my old QX6700 (B3), ~30W less power consumption, etc. BIOS is clearly not there though - it required CMOS reset each time it did not like the changes I made in the CPU configuration in the BIOS. In particular, it hated me fiddling with the ratio multiplier.

Eh? What CPU? O_o

I don't have that problem on my QX9650 and multipliers work fine. I've been up to 15x.

2406 (and 2403) both support the QX9650. However I don't know what Asus is talking about. They MIGHT be talking about the BIOS not identifying any of the cache in the cpu properties (it works, obviously), -or- they might be talking about the lack of a .5 multiplier, which the Penryns support.

But yes, you should have no problems getting a QX9650 running with 2406. How far you can push the FSB is another question, though. Highest I could hit stable was 370 FSB 370*10., and 400*10 was a NO POST, but 333 *12 worked fine @ 1.3625v O_O

[DarknessRevenge]

p5w dh deluxe (1602 bios version)
c2d E6300@1,86 Ghz
3 GB RAM
WD 320 GB SATA
ati radeon x1650 ...etc
I have some problems (like slow boot etc) and questions.

1) Update to a latest bios !
2) 3GB ? That means 3 modules ? Four ?? Try to use only 2 modules of the same brand and capacity (example: 2x1GB) in the dual channel slots (the orange ones are fine).

Slow boot can be related to these two things. Try to fix them. Bye

[atko]

@DarknessRevenge, thanx first ;)

I know, I have to update to the latest bios

3 GB - 2x1GB and 2x512MB kingston , I'm not sure about its ordering in slots, I can't remember. I'll check.

[Mr.X]

I just put in the Q6600 I had ordered but I the multi doesn't want to change for some reason. I set it to 8 in the BIOS but it's still 9. Why is this happening?

Any idea why it's displaying my clock speed incorrectly? I want to run at 400x8 but it it says 3.6Ghz (400x9) in the post screen. I've updated to the latest BIOS version but it's still the same.

[Unbornchild]

1) Update to a latest bios !
2) 3GB ? That means 3 modules ? Four ?? Try to use only 2 modules of the same brand and capacity (example: 2x1GB) in the dual channel slots (the orange ones are fine).

Slow boot can be related to these two things. Try to fix them. Bye

You do not HAVE to update to the latest bios.

Slow boot can be related to these things:
-not enabled quick boot.
-not set all fans to [ignored] in hardware monitor
-not disabled all unneeded devices (except hdd as the first, obviously) in boot order

try these first.

Oh, and if you put 3 modules in, you lose dual channel mode.

[Lee13168]

w t f
So my p5w was always unstable around 333 fsb even if i put the nbridge voltage at 1.85. I update my bios to 2406 and to my surprise its now stable around 350. However i need to disable hyper path. So i OC my cpu from 2.9 to 3.1 and my ram loses maybe 25mhz. I run 3dmark06 and to my surprise i lost 600points. Does hyperpath really make so much of a difference to overshadow .2ghz cpu gain? The ram shoulnd not have anything to do with this loss since i tested how ram effects 3dmark06 and 200mhz barely took 100 points off.

[atko]

You do not HAVE to update to the latest bios.

Slow boot can be related to these things:
-not enabled quick boot.
-not set all fans to [ignored] in hardware monitor
-not disabled all unneeded devices (except hdd as the first, obviously) in boot order

try these first.

Oh, and if you put 3 modules in, you lose dual channel mode.

Generaly, I wont newer bios than this one which I have currently.

I have 4 modules, 2x1GB and 2x512MB.

Of course I'll make changes which you have recommended.

[bichi]

Hi Bichi,
Would you mind sharing your FSB/Multilpier settings for your 3.0 OC? I just got my q6700, and i am running 266x10, but when i first booted, it was running 266x8. With BIOS 2406, i am able to change the Q6700 multiplier between 6 to 10. Am i doing this correctly?
Thanks
Tom

Here ya go
- BIOS 2406 setting screen shots
- 2.3mB in zipped format:
http://www.esnips.com/doc/548739a4-db48-486e-9d99-274fae86f559/72-P5WDH-2406-Screen-Shots

[romfi]

Eh? What CPU? O_o

Yep, you got me, it was an ES :-). The stepping was C0 though - just like the production QX9650.

2406 (and 2403) both support the QX9650. However I don't know what Asus is talking about. They MIGHT be talking about the BIOS not identifying any of the cache in the cpu properties (it works, obviously), -or- they might be talking about the lack of a .5 multiplier, which the Penryns support.


Right. On top of that I also noticed that SpeedStep option in BIOS was not functioning correctly. Have you noticed anything?

But yes, you should have no problems getting a QX9650 running with 2406. How far you can push the FSB is another question, though. Highest I could hit stable was 370 FSB 370*10., and 400*10 was a NO POST, but 333 *12 worked fine @ 1.3625v O_O

I personally decided to wait for the BIOS update before I throw $$$ to buy a Penryn based CPU. I need the system for 24x7 with power consumption optimization features working.

[Troop]

In order to fully utilize 4GB ram, you MUST be using Windows XP 64bit/Vista 64bit. Next you need to enable "Manual" overclocking mode in the BIO then enable "Memory Remap Feature". Then you will see 4GB ram in boot screen and Windows.

Steps:
1) BIO > JumperFree Configuration > AI Overclocking > [Manual]
2) BIO > Advanced > Chipset > Memory Remap Feature > [Enabled]

Thanks a lot for the information. I had thought I would need 64 bit as well, not sure what I was thinking when I posted my question. I am using Vista 32 bit Business edition at the moment. Next year (after SP1 is released) I plan to go with Vista Ultimate x64.

Another quick question. This is the RAM I have. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145034) I had to go into the BIOS (just as some reviewers stated on Newegg) to manually set the timing to DDR2/4-4-4-12. My question is, do you think it would be safe to bump up the voltage to 2.0 or 2.1 like some reviewers stated here?

If I do bump it to 2.1, it shows up in red in the BIOS which I assume cannot be good. I have never really overclocked before (and I just have stock cooling on my rig) so I just want to be sure that I am not going to fry my system by doing so.

If you need more information, please let me know.

Thanks guys and Happy Holidays.

P.S. Memory voltage as of right now is set to Auto.

[w2richwood]

the manufactors say 2.1 it wont hurt the ram to run it a that volt
Rich

[Falkentyne]

oh no I never have used power saving features. I always ninja shut them off immediately.

I do remember (on 1602 bios) that sometimes, speedstep (or maybe EIST? the voltage was EXTREMELY LOW) was occasionally on when it was supposed to be disabled; my C2D sometimes had a vcore of 1.2v or something while idle (when it was set to 1.35 in bios).

[lawrywild]

oh no I never have used power saving features. I always ninja shut them off immediately.

I do remember (on 1602 bios) that sometimes, speedstep (or maybe EIST? the voltage was EXTREMELY LOW) was occasionally on when it was supposed to be disabled; my C2D sometimes had a vcore of 1.2v or something while idle (when it was set to 1.35 in bios).

speedstep = EIST (Enhanced Intel Speedstepping Technology)

Eist rules... everyone should use EIST to save power and lower temps..

[firsttimmer]

Hi Bichim

Thanks alot for your help!

Tom


Here ya go
- BIOS 2406 setting screen shots
- 2.3mB in zipped format:
http://www.esnips.com/doc/548739a4-db48-486e-9d99-274fae86f559/72-P5WDH-2406-Screen-Shots

[Snake_Eyes]

speedstep = EIST (Enhanced Intel Speedstepping Technology)

Eist rules... everyone should use EIST to save power and lower temps..I have tested useing EIST and C1E and i see no difference between usage in watts..
Only 1 a 3 watts difference
So EIST are not that what you say about it..
C1E are better for me..
if i enable it and run 3ghz the temps are iddle better about 3-5c
the C1E set the vcore iddle to 1,14v and stressed it goes to 2,23v
But with EIST i see no difference in Watts usage or temps.

So C1E are the rules !!!
But with higer overclock over 3 Ghz than you cant use C1E becource you have more vcore needed..

[romfi]

Actually it is the EIST feature that allows processor to drop to a lower frequency (by changing the bus ratios) and voltage, conserving power while maintaining reasonable responsiveness. You can use CPU-Z to monitor this behavior.

C1E stands for Enhanced HALT state support in the CPU. When system is idle, OS will try to halt CPU cores in order to save power. If I am not mistaken, C1E means that while a core is halted it shuts down some of its functional units in order to further improve the power conservation.

[fordf250]

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So my p5w was always unstable around 333 fsb even if i put the nbridge voltage at 1.85. I update my bios to 2406 and to my surprise its now stable around 350. However i need to disable hyper path. So i OC my cpu from 2.9 to 3.1 and my ram loses maybe 25mhz. I run 3dmark06 and to my surprise i lost 600points. Does hyperpath really make so much of a difference to overshadow .2ghz cpu gain? The ram shoulnd not have anything to do with this loss since i tested how ram effects 3dmark06 and 200mhz barely took 100 points off.

Over 333 you need to disable hyperpath to oc,e6600@425fsb no prob I never noticed a difference in benchmark scores without, you might need to bump some voltage, your score should go up for 200mhz extra.

[Crow-]

Hi,

I have a little problem with my SATA DVDRW and P5W DH Deluxe.

On the 3 SATA ports I have 3 HDD's, so I've connected my DVDRW (SATA) to the JMicron port, but when it's reading a DVD the system becames to slow :confused:
If I change the DVDRW to another SATA port it's all ok, and if I connect a HDD to the JMicron port it's also slow when it's reading/writing :confused:

What can I do to fix this? Or, can I use the RAID SATA ports to connect one HDD or the DVDRW?

Thanks :up:

[genish]

:shrug: all asus systems bios can't come back between 2406 2004
afudos az bios and update with option "old enable" failed.
how can I change the bios date 2004.
i had test to change the date later then 2406 it' s ok to read .
but it is dedecting than too old .
the 2004 is genial to change timing @3.4 and memory timing speed.
i can do that with the new bios black screen when reboot.
excuse me for my translate.

[lawrywild]

:shrug: all asus systems bios can't come back between 2406 2004
afudos az bios and update with option "old enable" failed.
how can I change the bios date 2004.
i had test to change the date later then 2406 it' s ok to read .
but it is dedecting than too old .
the 2004 is genial to change timing @3.4 and memory timing speed.
i can do that with the new bios black screen when reboot.
excuse me for my translate.

Use an older version of afudos like 2.17

[MacClipper]

Hey guys. I've been using the P5WDH for almost 6 months now, thanks to Lawry and this great thread.

A few days ago, my PC did not POST after shutting down from the night before. I managed to trace it to 1 of my RAM sticks (I have Crucial Ballistix PC-8500 tracers). I know it's the RAM because, 1) I pull out the offending stick and the PC boots. 2) I put the offending stick in, and it doesn't POST. Nada. Nothing. 3) I trade out the RAM sticks and nothing, again.

After putting all my settings back to default, I ran memtest85+ on the 'working' RAM. I am getting errors on 2 blocks. It seems those two blocks are faulty. I'm currently in the process of getting an RMA for the pair, but had the following question:

In all my months of tweaking, I never pumped up the mem voltage, or freaked out the timings. These chips are rated at 2.2v, at default CAS reads 5-5-5-15 according to memtest and CPU-Z. Could the motherboard have damaged the RAM? It's hard to believe that it's my 2nd pair of defective crucial sticks. Has anyone else had similar problems?

Thanks for any input.

BTW aside from memory problems, I'm pretty happy with the Ballistix PC8500.
Just experienced the same problem today, PC running well a few minutes ago and I did a shutdown. It failed to POST when I tried powering it up a while later, a stick of Crucial 10th Anniv. in DIMM slot B2 had somehow died in that short downtime. All 4 sticks had been running well for the past year and at the moment of death, it was at stock FSB@DDR667@2.05v (with a 80mm fan cooling the 4 sticks) as it had been doing ever since I got the Q6600.

Put in my spare stick and rig's back up and running but an unwelcome hassle as lawrywild puts it. :(

[genish]

Use an older version of afudos like 2.17
I try 2.15 without underbios
but with 2.17 it's ok thanks......
but i try to overclock with my " older test" cpu 333 1.48v ram 834 with 2.1v .....overclocking wrong it's easy ok before
i test the mini overclocking:confused:
cpu+ram just 266 to 267 and spd to memory default ( manual)
i can't boot i shut my pc and when i reboot i must go to change bios with f1

but when I test automatique overclocking 10 20 30% it's ok
perhaps my old new bios have no change something in the bios .
I you a idea?:shrug:

[w2richwood]

did you clear the bios after bios flash pull cmos battery and clear with the jumper on 2/3 be sure to unplug power cable
Rich

[Chrysalis]

I am on 2406 now no problems, also I read what was said earlier about EIST (speedstep) and C1E and decided to disable speedstep in the bios, the result was my voltage still drops when idle alongside the temp but I dont lose cpu clock speed so now I am sitting here wondering if speedstep (and coolnquiet) is just an overhyped feature since its C1E doing the power/heat saving. The only conclusion I can come to is just that by lowering the clock when idle reduces the chance of there been a stability issue when undervolted as the cpu itself is throttled but as soon as the cpu comes under load the voltage is upped so I reckon its a very low risk.