ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

[michaellundmark]

When will P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2004-G0-45nm-Edition (Modified by lawrywild) Bios work to download? I have tryed many days now with no progress.

How come Asus says that the bios must be 2205 or newer for Q6600 G0?
Is that the Modification with 2004 larwrywild?

[lawrywild]

On Asus homepage it´s written that Bios from 2205 and up supports Q6600

That's because they aren't hosting 2103...

[michaellundmark]

I have searched the net and found the P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2004-G0-45nm-Edition (Modified by lawrywild) Bios elsewhere, but i´m having problem to flash it.
Asus Flash says: Warning! The BIOS image can´t use in this motherboard. (The EEPROM Type incompatible)

Why?

[IcemaN22]

Hi. When SPD is on (CL 5-6-6-18) everything works fine, but when I turn spd off and use for example Cl 6-6-6-20 the pc wont start :mad:
Some ideas how I fix this? I want to try CL4 or very low CL5.
Here is how cpu-z looks like:

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/2443/cctz1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Nobody know what can be the problem? :(

[WeldZilla]

Hey snakeeyes you are damn close to 5000 on the cpu score. Keep tweeking and you should find it.

I am running my 6600 GO with the 2301 bios along with 4 sticks of G.Skill 6400HZ daily at 400fsb with my memory running at 3-3-3-5. I will change my sig to reflect What I got running here. My liquid cooling system is just top notch and I see temps really matter with this processor I have. I just ordered some Patriot 6400 as the price with rebate was just too Xtreme to ignore I will let you know what I think of it also.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/speedy06.jpg
I am getting along just fine with this new processor

WeldZilla

[w2richwood]

one nice clock you have going there WeldZilla you have the rev104g dont you
Rich

[Snake_Eyes]

Hey snakeeyes you are damn close to 5000 on the cpu score. Keep tweeking and you should find it.
Aha okay thanks..
This my first time i run this clock :P
I have it clocked now to 3,2 but i needed a little vcore more.
Running now on 1,30Vcore @ 3,2Ghz

Gonna test this soon and than i go higher to 3,6 and higher.
But the score that i now have, are that a special one, or get most people a cpu score around 5000 in 3dmark06 ?

[WeldZilla]

Actually clock for clock you are ahead of most systems Snake eyes.

Yes w2richwood this is a rev 104g board.

WZ

[IcemaN22]

FSB Wall at around 360-370 fsb - Enable SPD timings option in Chipset section of bios.


That is what my problem is, everything over 376fsb then the pc don't start, but it will if the spd timing is on.
Is it a solution on it? I wonder to flash the SPD timings on my RAM... :confused:

[Snake_Eyes]

Actually clock for clock you are ahead of most systems Snake eyes.

Yes w2richwood this is a rev 104g board.

WZ
Ah okay..
Than i go farther to clock it to 3,6 and maybe more.
Thanks for the comment.

[Falkentyne]

Before my question gets buried in the annuls of time,
Can anyone besided Weldzilla confirm that ALL 1.04g versions overclock the Quad cores farther than the previous versions? Has anyone actually put this to a scientific test? Are the 1.04g versions designed differently? (with regards to that AGL+ whatever it was link that someone posted awhile back?).

[Phoenix_TT]

Iceman, do you have Digital Home enabled or disabled ?

That is what my problem is, everything over 376fsb then the pc don't start, but it will if the spd timing is on.
Is it a solution on it? I wonder to flash the SPD timings on my RAM... :confused:

[IcemaN22]

Iceman, do you have Digital Home enabled or disabled ?

I have tried to disable it, and its the same problem :down:
Maybe a older bios doesn't have this bug? Im using 2301 beta now. :idea:

[freddeman]

Hi.

I have the 1.02G version of this board and i can't get my system stable when running 4x1Gb Crucial Ballistix modules at 800MHz at 2.1v.

I have tried 2.0, 2.1, 2.2 and 2.25v and max 1.65 Mch voltage with no luck.

If i run with 2x1Gb everything is fine.

I had to reduce memory speed to 640Mhz to get the system stable.

Is it possible that 975X chipset can't handle 4 modules at 800Mhz and higher?

I use bios 2004.

My rigg:

E6700@3.2ghz
4Gb 4x1Gb Crucial DDR2 800Mhz
ASUS P5W DH
ATI X1900XT Crossfire
Silverstone 750w
Windows Vista x64
2x Raptor 80Gb
1x Samsung 400Gb
Creative XF-i Fatalty

[MacClipper]

max 1.65 Mch voltage

My mobo (1.85v revision) needed 1.75v vMCH for 4GB DDR800 operation but only 2v Vdimm at 4-4-4-8 Crucials.

Pencil shading time?

[lawrywild]

I'm using stock vmch on Rev. 1.02G for DDR2-834 4-4-4-12. 2.1vdimm.

[Snake_Eyes]

Hi all
I have now tested my Q6600 G0 but i cant go higher than 3,4Ghz
If i set it to 3,50Ghz windows doesnt boot
If i set the vcore higher, than it doesnt boot again.
I got the Q6600 G0 L728A826 1,2875 Vid
If i set the Vcore in the Bios on 1,5volt it doesnt help i cant boot with that vcore to.

Does it help if i set the fsb termination or the mch chipset voltage or the ich chipset voltage higher to get higher clock ?
I hear that many Q6600's can run 3,6Ghz with no problem.
Why i cant get over 3,5Ghz ?
I run it with a Asus P5W DH Deluxe, and Kingston HyperX DDR2 800mhz
The voltage of the mem is set to auto at this moment.

Can some help me with some settings.
Thanks..

[michaellundmark]

I´m having problem to flash P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2004-G0-45nm-Edition (Modified by lawrywild) .
Asus Flash says: Warning! The BIOS image can´t use in this motherboard. (The EEPROM Type incompatible)

Why?

[lawrywild]

I´m having problem to flash P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2004-G0-45nm-Edition (Modified by lawrywild) .
Asus Flash says: Warning! The BIOS image can´t use in this motherboard. (The EEPROM Type incompatible)

Why?

You already asked this and no one knows. You did extract the rar right? Just stick the rom on a usb flash and use ez-flash.

[Snake_Eyes]

Lawrywild would you read my thread.
Hope you can help me with it.

[holwill]

Hi all
I have now tested my Q6600 G0 but i cant go higher than 3,4Ghz
If i set it to 3,50Ghz windows doesnt boot
If i set the vcore higher, than it doesnt boot again.
I got the Q6600 G0 L728A826 1,2875 Vid
If i set the Vcore in the Bios on 1,5volt it doesnt help i cant boot with that vcore to.

Does it help if i set the fsb termination or the mch chipset voltage or the ich chipset voltage higher to get higher clock ?
I hear that many Q6600's can run 3,6Ghz with no problem.
Why i cant get over 3,5Ghz ?
I run it with a Asus P5W DH Deluxe, and Kingston HyperX DDR2 800mhz
The voltage of the mem is set to auto at this moment.

Can some help me with some settings.
Thanks..

I had this board up until 2 weeks ago, mine was the early revision and I could not get my Q6600 GO stable at anything over 3.2, so I think you are doing well with what you have achieved. I thought at first it was my chip, but it now runs 3.6@1.425v 24/7 and will prime @3.75 small fft's 8hrs plus and there is probs more to go! So maybe, you just may be in the same situation as I was!

[Snake_Eyes]

okay, but maybe can i set the fsb termination or the mch chipset voltage or the ich chipset voltage higher, dont know if thats helps..

A another problem
I got Kingston HyperX DDR2 800
What timings can i use on stock 2,4ghz ?
I running now 3,1 Ghz and the timings works now on 4.4.4.11
But if i clock to 3,2ghz than it boot not i dont see the bios to
it boot only if i set the timings to By SPD (automatic)
So what timing do i need to boot on 3,4 ghz or more ?
I got this memory:
2 GB DDR2-800 Kit
Retail, SLI-Ready, KHX6400D2LLK2/2GN
Timings in Everest says:
@ 400: 5.5.5.16
@ 266: 4.4.4.11
@ 200: 3.3.3.8

Can some help me with that.
I want to run at lowest timings of cource.

[Creek Tha Gray]

well my new asus maximus formula is in and will be up soon

i have rev 1.02 of the p5w dh and could not get to boot at 3.2 and stay in os 3.1 was stable but no higher.

[Snake_Eyes]

I got this working now @ the moment:

http://members.home.nl/knight-rider-1982/Programmas/Q6600%20G0%20Clocked.JPG

Got a 3Dmark05 score of 19274 with 8800GTS 320 @ 685/1005mhz
Got a 3Dmark06 score of 13265 with 8800GTD 320 @ 685/1005mhz

This is with the memory timings on 4.4.4.11
If i got a timing of 5.5.6.2 i got a lower score.
So are this good ?

P.s would someone look to my thread i asked there how i get the timings on another timings.
Its 2 reply's back..

[REwell]

Hi!!

I currently have Windows XP Professional running on my ASUS P5W DH board with a RAID 0 for added speed. When I installed the OS, I had to make a floppy disk for the RAID driver to be installed. If I am PLANNING to upgrade to Vista 32bit, do I need to make another floppy disk with RAID Drivers?

I have done a "dry run" of the Vista install and the install seems to recognize my RAID array that I is created in my RAID BIOS ( it shows up as a ~76 GB partition instead of 2 separate 36GB Drives. THE WEIRD thing is that it also shows a 12MB partition on that drive!?!?!?

Should I download and make a RAID Driver disk or does VISTA recognize the INTEL RAID well enough to use it???

[lawrywild]

In my opinion, it's better to install using the latest drivers rather than these older ones anyway.

You don't need a floppy, you can put the drivers onto a usb flash and use that.

[mikepaul]

I just tried another set of CM2X1024-6400C4 ($60 after rebate) to get as much extra memory as I can get, and the PC locks up when even one stick of it is in. Don't even get to adjust any BIOS settings. This is with OC to 2.87Ghz/PC-6400 Dual Channel. BIOS 2302 (BAD for 4GB?).

I tried the new stuff alone in the original orange slots, and the new stuff alone in the unused-until-now black slots, and it works fine.

I see the reports of higher vMCH required by some, and not required by others, so I'm wondering where to go next. This P5W only goes to 1.65V and that's where I had it.

Can hardware revisions in the RAM itself make for incompatibility? I got some DDR for my Compaq that wouldn't work so I swapped it out for similar-to-what-I-had-looking chips from another manufacturer. The parts numbers on these CM2X1024-6400C4 are different from the first set, but the heat spreaders make it hard to see anything.

Would more RAM voltage be required, or just be dangerous?

While I wait for advice, I've gone back to stock BIOS so I can see what happens with 4GB. Unless a miracle happens, I'll have to pop 2 sticks just to change the BIOS again.

Really annoying when just plugging something in doesn't work...

[WeldZilla]

you know Iceman and Snake eyes and a few others. I just bought and tried some patriot 4-4-4-12 memory it is their 6400 extreme xblk stuff. I pulled out 2 sticks of my G.Skill 6400 and put in their me right beside my 2 remaining sticks of G.Skill. the timings were set where they always are. 3-3-3-5 and I hit the start button and it was a no go! I thought maybe the mem sticks just did not like each other so I pulled my 2 remaning sticks of G.Skill still a no go.
Turned the fsb down to 390, still a no go the same at 380 so I backed it down to 370 and set the timings at 4-4-4-12 and it booted but it was not stable til i backed it down to 358fsb. This is supposed to great memory as is so many other sticks. I am telling you guys that I have a room full of G.Skill here and any combination of 2 or 4 sticks will run right up to and 400 fsb 1:1 with a quad core at 3-3-3-5 and up to 435 fsb with a duo core at 3-3-3-5!!
It's the G.Skill 6400 HZ it comes with the black heat spreaders... Get some!!
oh and Snake eyes as long as you have a fan on your memory I would say to go ahead and turn it up to 2.3V. anyway. Should be fine. Remember
Memory Matters..................
I will tell you all this also. Of the 13 P5W DH deluxe boards I have built on. This is the weakest of them all. I don't know why it is but, it really is. The 2 best boards were my very first bought in June of 2006 it was a rev 1.02 and the one just before this one it was a rev 104g. All the rest were excellent but those 2 were the real deal. I sold them both in systems. What you gonna do... This board just don't have that punch the others did but, it is a damn fine board.
I believe many of you need a change of memory more than a bios update.
2301 is turning out to be a nice bios.
WZ

[Snake_Eyes]

Okay thanks.
So i go to set my memory to 2,1v
Than what for timings can i use i running now on 4.4.4.11
But if i set the FSB to 400 it want not start anymore (most turn off pc)
I would to get a best timings for 400FSB but cant find it.
And i would to find a best timings on stock speed 2,4 ghz (Q6600)
As i said my memory are Kingston HyperX DDR2-800 PC6400
The timings says in Everest Ultimate, 5.5.5.16 @ 400, 4.4.4.11 @ 266
and 3.3.3.8 @ 200.

[mikepaul]

I got the PC to boot at stock with 4GB, then I got it to boot using the 30% OC profile, then I got it to boot with 410FSB but using the first memory divider for PC-4800 (I did read the other posts before asking and saw this might work, but I didn't know if I'd get anywhere on my own.)

So I've stopped screwing around since if I make the BIOS change back to 1:1 again and it fails to boot, I'll have to pull 2 sticks out just to reconfigure the BIOS then shove them back in again and go back to 3.12GB as reported by Windows. I'll see how it goes for now with 'slower' memory...

[lawrywild]

I just tried another set of CM2X1024-6400C4 ($60 after rebate) to get as much extra memory as I can get, and the PC locks up when even one stick of it is in. Don't even get to adjust any BIOS settings. This is with OC to 2.87Ghz/PC-6400 Dual Channel. BIOS 2302 (BAD for 4GB?).

I tried the new stuff alone in the original orange slots, and the new stuff alone in the unused-until-now black slots, and it works fine.

I see the reports of higher vMCH required by some, and not required by others, so I'm wondering where to go next. This P5W only goes to 1.65V and that's where I had it.

Can hardware revisions in the RAM itself make for incompatibility? I got some DDR for my Compaq that wouldn't work so I swapped it out for similar-to-what-I-had-looking chips from another manufacturer. The parts numbers on these CM2X1024-6400C4 are different from the first set, but the heat spreaders make it hard to see anything.

Would more RAM voltage be required, or just be dangerous?

While I wait for advice, I've gone back to stock BIOS so I can see what happens with 4GB. Unless a miracle happens, I'll have to pop 2 sticks just to change the BIOS again.

Really annoying when just plugging something in doesn't work...

Your problem is the 6300's low multiplier. 410fsb is just never going to happen with 4x1GB... :(

[mikepaul]

Your problem is the 6300's low multiplier. 410fsb is just never going to happen with 4x1GB... :(
Just not at 1:1...

http://www.mikepaul.com/CPUZ.jpg

http://www.mikepaul.com/CPUZ2.jpg

[lawrywild]

Stable?

[mikepaul]

Stable?
Only ran Orthos 57 minutes last night. Had other stuff to do. Will get more time in ASAP...

[ajm786]

Just not at 1:1...

http://www.mikepaul.com/CPUZ.jpg

http://www.mikepaul.com/CPUZ2.jpg


Precise problem I ran into earlier on in this thread. Now I have to get another motherboard, because I need the 4GB, but at the same time, I refuse to give up my 410FSB OC!!! I refuse to run the memory at 300 or 310MHz because it's now a bottleneck for the processor. :( I'm thinking about getting the P5K Deluxe.

[roger_h99.nor]

...I refuse to run the memory at 300 or 310MHz because it's now a bottleneck for the processor...
Have you actually tested this? I have done some testing (gametesting and 3Dmark) that clearly suggest that the opposite it's the case; FSB is not the bottleneck.

regards,
r.-

[ajm786]

Have you actually tested this? I have done some testing (gametesting and 3Dmark) that clearly suggest that the opposite it's the case; FSB is not the bottleneck.

regards,
r.-

No, what I meant is that if you run the memory at 300MHz with the FSB of the CPU being 400MHz, you are clearly running it out of 1:1 ratio. Granted, there are plenty of times people buy memory that is too fast for the FSB of their processor to make any difference. For instance:

266MHz = use DDR 2 533
333MHz = use DDR 2 667

In this instance, I am actually using a 400, actually 410FSB. So the memory has to be at least PC6400, which is DDR 2 800. If I don't use memory that fast, the memory FSB is going to end up being a bottleneck for the CPU FSB. It's sorta undermines the entire point of my OC if I am going to bottleneck the CPU FSB by lowering the memory multiplier; doesn't make any sense for the CPU FSB to be outrageously fast if it's going to be sitting around waiting for the memory to feed it.

If it can be proven that DDR 2 300 (DDR 600) will NOT bottleneck a CPU running at 400+FSB, then I'll be all for it. I clearly and logically don't think that's the case.

[mikepaul]

Precise problem I ran into earlier on in this thread. Now I have to get another motherboard, because I need the 4GB, but at the same time, I refuse to give up my 410FSB OC!!! I refuse to run the memory at 300 or 310MHz because it's now a bottleneck for the processor. :( I'm thinking about getting the P5K Deluxe.
My plan is to get an 8-core 3Ghz model when I can afford it, and just run stock. I'm willing to keep this motherboard as long as that plan works out. I might never notice the 4:3 divider holding me back, but my next MB will have to be out longer so I'm not stuck with the first-and-buggy revision again.

Although, has anyone determined what the FSB drop would have to be to get 4GB to go back to 1:1 on this revision, just in case it looks necessary?...

[ajm786]

My plan is to get an 8-core 3Ghz model when I can afford it, and just run stock. I'm willing to keep this motherboard as long as that plan works out. I might never notice the 4:3 divider holding me back, but my next MB will have to be out longer so I'm not stuck with the first-and-buggy revision again...

I hear you. One of the primary reasons for me choosing the P5W-DH was so that I could upgrade to a quad core or higher in the future, as well as from 2GB to 4GB of RAM. The stability is definitely there, but this problem with the memory is a dealbreaker. I need to have motherboard that can do it all.

[Snake_Eyes]

Can some tell me why i cant run 4.4.4.11 on 3.3Ghz Q6600 G0 ?
if i set it to 4.4.4.11 it dont boot anymore (no bios)
The timings thats works well are 5.6.6.18
I dont understand why it does not run on 4.4.4.11 on 3.3Ghz.

Can some explane me why this not work and what timing i can best use for 3.3 Ghz ?

EDIT: i have already found it was the volt of the memory
But to high can i set the memory volt ?
I got Kingston HyperX DDR2-800 2 Gig 2x1Gig 2048mb CL4.

[Zeus]

Your timings are not directly related to your CPU end speed.
Running 1:1 mode howerever forces the memory to run higher as soon as you raise FSB frequency.

Your mem will require more voltage the higher you raise their speed or you need to give them some breath by loosen up the timings like you suggested yourself.

Running a FSB/memory divider can help you increase or decrease your memspeed, thing is, these divider don't work well on this board.

At least not on mine, that's why i got me a P5K-E now.

[Putyah]

Currently my rig is running 3.4 ghz @ 1.42v. I have tested it with orthos blend test for 21 hour. No errors founds.

Recently my computer just shuts down. The harddisk, fans start spinning but there is no screen. After a few of and on turning my pc boots up again. When my pc doesn't start up correctly is get one long beep en 2 short beeps. I've tried to find it in the manual what this means, but couldn't find it.

Here are my settings and specs:

e6600@ 3.4 ghz @ 1.42
2 gb G-Skill @ 734 @ 2.05 4-4-4-12
Antec Neo HE 550 Watt

I have set the FSB voltage @ 1.30
MCH voltage @ Auto
Chipset voltage @ Auto

I think it is de fsb voltage the problem but I'm not sure. Please help me out.

Ps:Sorry for my bad English

[t_ski]

i would advise lawrys 2004 modded bios link on first page of this thread i have a go stepping e6850 and it works fine with it

Hi GLENBOY, I was wondering if you could provide me with your BIOS settings. I am running the same CPU as you, and I would like to see some settings that might help me. Right now to reach 3.6GHz I have the vcore at 1.45v, the memory set to SPD timings @ 2.15v hyper path 3 disabled, and FSB, MCH & ICH voltage set to max.

I'm currently running BIOS 2301, but what do you think I would gain by going to the modded GO BIOS?

[whizmsm]

i just ordered my p5w dh off ebay, and i opened it up and it appears to be missing the heatsinks off the 975x chipset and the heatpipe that appear in all the pictures. Any ideas where I can get replacement ones?

[ntvh]

use water block for it

[nicepun]

i just ordered my p5w dh off ebay, and i opened it up and it appears to be missing the heatsinks off the 975x chipset and the heatpipe that appear in all the pictures. Any ideas where I can get replacement ones?

The Seller!!! LOL

[~aoe~]

The Seller!!! LOL
:rofl::rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[GLENBOY]

Hi GLENBOY, I was wondering if you could provide me with your BIOS settings. I am running the same CPU as you, and I would like to see some settings that might help me. Right now to reach 3.6GHz I have the vcore at 1.45v, the memory set to SPD timings @ 2.15v hyper path 3 disabled, and FSB, MCH & ICH voltage set to max.

I'm currently running BIOS 2301, but what do you think I would gain by going to the modded GO BIOS?

hi there yes personally with myself i have a higher vcore and use 1.5125 volt and its 100% stable also on ram i am usinf 1/1 divider i have the old board as well with a max fsb volts 1.65, the e6850s run very well in this board

[whizmsm]

The Seller!!! LOL

so what did you do with the heatsinks? can i please have them? :cool:

[mikepaul]

I peeled the metal covers off the NB and SB heatsinks (80MM side fan points in their general direction), but would some sort of cooler make the MB perform better?

If so, what fits?...

[nicepun]

so what did you do with the heatsinks? can i please have them? :cool:

:shrug: :shrug: :shrug: Did you buy it from me?

[whizmsm]

:shrug: :shrug: :shrug: Did you buy it from me?

I have no idea, i thought you were telling me earlier that you sold it to me.

[John600rr]

I peeled the metal covers off the NB and SB heatsinks (80MM side fan points in their general direction), but would some sort of cooler make the MB perform better?

If so, what fits?...

Honestly, I don't think you need any active cooling for the NB/SB on this board at all. I am running over 1.8vMCH and don't have a problem. Decent case air flow is all you need.

[t_ski]

hi there yes personally with myself i have a higher vcore and use 1.5125 volt and its 100% stable also on ram i am usinf 1/1 divider i have the old board as well with a max fsb volts 1.65, the e6850s run very well in this board

Thanks for the reply. I'm not exactly sure what revision I have - where do I check? I assume it's a later one, as my MCH goes up to 1.85v IIRC.

Also, what about my question of what you think I would gain by going to the modded GO BIOS? Do you think that would help the most to tighten up the ram timings? As it sits right now, I know it is only Orthos stable for 30+ minutes. I don't normally OC it, but I need to make sure it's totally stable there before I leave it OC'ed to 3.6 GHz +.

[lawrywild]

I have no idea, i thought you were telling me earlier that you sold it to me.

HAHAHAHA No, You asked where do you get them and he said the seller. As in ask the seller for them. :rofl:

[GLENBOY]

hi t_ski i don't think bios 2004 will gain you much, i had issues with 2301 bios when the vcore bios would not stick so thats why i use the modded 2004 , i think you'll be 100% stable with 3.6 but the p5w needs more vcore than some of the newer boards to be stable at 3600 so i'd up the vcore only and then test

[t_ski]

OK, thanks for the info.

How do I know for sure which revision board I have?

[w2richwood]

its printed on the board by the ram slots 102g 104g etc
Rich

[dragons_nl]

I have a question for lawrywild, what's so different about the P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2004-G0-45nm-Edition bios that you created for this motherboard ????

[lawrywild]

Your answer is already in this thread. Just go and do some reading, I'm tired of answering the same question. (In future, anyone asking this question will be ignored).

[michaellundmark]

I Just flashed the bios to 2302 and speedstep still doesent work!!!

[Snake_Eyes]

Your answer is already in this thread. Just go and do some reading, I'm tired of answering the same question. (In future, anyone asking this question will be ignored).You ignored my questions to..
So i dont ask anymore... :-(
You think i go read 253 pages of this tread ?

[crishan]

@dragons_nl and Snake_Eyes:

Are you aware of something called a search function?

Specifically that button on the upper right side of this page labeled
Search this Thread?

Why don't you use that? :confused: :rolleyes:

You think i go read 253 pages of this tread ?

Sheesh. Really. Is it our fault you are too lazy for searching and r e a d i n g? :mad: :down:

[riiaku]

I'm still using 1503, its been running smooth for a long time but i have some sound problems in vista with games, i read in other forums that updating my bios would do the trick.

My question is what is the most stable bios out of all of these that would maintain my 3.2 gigahertz overclock of my core 2 duo 6400 and also be stable with no bugs? Or hopefully allow me to push to a higher overclock if possible. I'm using OCZ Platinum Revision 2 2GB DDR800 PC6400 ram. It wont boot even if i go one megahertz past 400, so yeah. Can anyone please lend a helping hand?

EDIT: just tried the 2004 mod bios, booted up ran load setup defaults, did not clear cmos though, but still runs great. I went into bios set up my overclock options and it runs awesome, all i gotta do now is run it with games and see if it solved the problem, vista needs a lot of work.

What is memory remap feature and what is better for OCing disabled or enabled. what is dram throttling too? do i need it? and what about the CPU thermal control what would that do if i disabled it. sorry for all the questions guys its just i always wondered if i really needed these options or not and what they did.

[mikepaul]

Google search of this site for "dh modified 2004 bios"

http://www.google.com/search?as_q=dh+modified+2004+bios&hl=en&num=30&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=lang_en&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xtremesystems.org&as_rights=&safe=off

[Snake_Eyes]

yeah you right i can use the search funktion.
But its to diffecult to search what you want for a answer.
And i see nobody with Kingston Memory so if i search i dont find something thats give my a answer to my questions..

[HitMaker]

My ASUS died yesterday after shutting down the PC using the PSU switch (i shut down using Ubuntu 7.10 but the PC was still poweron for some reason then i decided to use the back switch)...

So... i tried to use the ASUS recover bios utility with the CD and also using a pendrive and nothing happened :( so i guess i am one of the owners with the EPROM chip screw, no? )

The system now doesn't post at all and even the 8600GT bios doesn´t appear. The PWON led also turns off after 15secs but the systems is still pwon... no idea..

My mobo is rev1.04 and i hope the store give me the same one at least, is there a higher revision ?

For sure its the mobo or i should doubt about the E6400? i don't thinks so, should i?

PD: I tried everying: ClearCMOS, CLEARCMOS after having the baterry out for 45minutes, unplugging every power cable.... :'(

[tommynsong]

Hi all,

I'm not sure if this question has been answer or not, i try to search and can't find any solution on this.
Let's me cut to the point, I have 2 SATA drives Maxtor 200GB SATAII and Maxtor 160GB SATAII, I would like to use those 2 drives as an individual drive (JBOD) on ICH controller with AHCI mode (if possible). I tried many configuration.
Let's me break it all down to you

Config 1: 160GB connect to the red port and 200GB connect to SATA 3 black port and IDE DVD burner to black PATA port --> none of the drive show in the BIOS (Jmicron disabled, IDE set to AHCI).

Config 2: 160GB connect to the red port and 200GB connect to to SATA 2 black port (the one close the CPU) and IDE DVD burner disconnected --> only 160GB show in the BIOS (same setting as Config 1).

If any of you have a solution for this, please share, I would really appreciated.

Thanks

Tommy

[riiaku]

there was this memory utility i was using that allowed me to customize my settings in windows, i forgot the name and cant find it when i google it, anybody know what it could be called? its not memset, its something else. more comprehensive.

How do i find out what revision my mobo is?

[Zeus]

My ASUS died yesterday after shutting down the PC using the PSU switch (i shut down using Ubuntu 7.10 but the PC was still poweron for some reason then i decided to use the back switch)...

So... i tried to use the ASUS recover bios utility with the CD and also using a pendrive and nothing happened :( so i guess i am one of the owners with the EPROM chip screw, no? )

The system now doesn't post at all and even the 8600GT bios doesn´t appear. The PWON led also turns off after 15secs but the systems is still pwon... no idea..

My mobo is rev1.04 and i hope the store give me the same one at least, is there a higher revision ?

For sure its the mobo or i should doubt about the E6400? i don't thinks so, should i?

PD: I tried everying: ClearCMOS, CLEARCMOS after having the baterry out for 45minutes, unplugging every power cable.... :'(

Are you sure the PSU is allright?

Perhaps something (some device) is shorting the PSU so that it shuts down?

[t_ski]

OK, then mine is 1.02g, too. Lawrywild, if you get a chance you may add to the first post where the board revision is located at, for future reference.

I'm going to be upgrading my HDD's (hopefully this week). When I get everything backed up I think I'll play around with it a bit more to see what I can do. I did have some trouble getting my 2GBHKs to run 4-4-3-5 @ 2.1v, so maybe I can work that out. Any suggestions?

[t_ski]

there was this memory utility i was using that allowed me to customize my settings in windows, i forgot the name and cant find it when i google it, anybody know what it could be called? its not memset, its something else. more comprehensive.

How do i find out what revision my mobo is?

Same question I just asked, and got a reply here:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2501313&postcount=6308

[p5wdh]

what is the stable frquency/configurations for my specs here? Is it possible to overclock up to 4ghz?
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb25/p5wdh/everest.jpg

[p5wdh]

and also how can i make my gpu fan make it 100%... i'm using windows vista by the way and updated driver.. thanks

My Specs:
Asus P5WDH Deluxe Bios 2301
Intel Core2Duo E6750
3gb Corsair TwinPC6400 (2x1gb) and (2x512mb)
250GB WD SATAII 16mb Cache
Palit 8800gts 320mb 320bit
550Watts Hec Powersupply
Lian Li PCb20 Casing

[Snake_Eyes]

and also how can i make my gpu fan make it 100%... i'm using windows vista by the way and updated driver.. thanks

My Specs:
Asus P5WDH Deluxe Bios 2301
Intel Core2Duo E6750
3gb Corsair TwinPC6400 (2x1gb) and (2x512mb)
250GB WD SATAII 16mb Cache
Palit 8800gts 320mb 320bit
550Watts Hec Powersupply
Lian Li PCb20 CasingFirst answer about overclock to 4Ghz.
What are the Temps stressed ?
I see now a temp of 46 idle @ 3,6

Second Answer, about GPU fan to 100% in Vista..
Try Exper Tool.
I'm using it in XP with a XFX 8800GTS but dont know if it works on Vista..
You can find it here:
http://www.gainward.net/support/XPRT_50.zip

[t_ski]

If you have an E6750, the default multiplier is 8, correct? That means in order for you to run 4GHz you need an FSB of 500 x 8. Admittingly, I haven't seen everything, but I've been told these boards top out around 480 with a v-mod. That means 3.8 GHz roughly.

[t_ski]

OK, just out of curiousity-

I am currently running the board with 2 x 1GB G.Skill F2-6400C4-2GBHK. Would I have better results running this board with a set of F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ?

[John600rr]

If you have an E6750, the default multiplier is 8, correct? That means in order for you to run 4GHz you need an FSB of 500 x 8. Admittingly, I haven't seen everything, but I've been told these boards top out around 480 with a v-mod. That means 3.8 GHz roughly.

On my rev 1.02 board with a vMCH mod running at around 1.8V the max FSB I can hit is 420fsb stable with two sticks of ram. With 4 sticks of ram 400FSB is the stable max.

[mikepaul]

Is there a detailed guide to PC cooling out there? I want to find out what kind of room-temp-to-CPU-temp relationship I should expect from air cooling an E6300 Core 2 Duo.

I spent over $200 on a new case and Thermaltake V1 cooler thinking my previous equipment was faulty, and it turns out that the room temperature seems to be more important.

I'm now 10C cooler most of the time (as low as 42C instead of 52C; Orthos ran up to 62C a few times now 54C maybe), while the room temperature has only dropped a few degrees F. The AS5 didn't seem to miraculously cure weeks after a desperate reapplication. All that happened is high 80F's and low 90F's outside has turned into low 80F's and high 70F's.

It's really annoying to find I'll be overclocking from October through March then overheating from March until October, but unless I do something I expect that pattern from this year will repeat itself soon. The upgrade to a hotter CPU will likely require liquid...

[t_ski]

I don't have an E6300, but I did have an E6400 and now have an E6850. From my extensive heatsink testing with the E6400, I had the following temps in the attached image below. I can assome you would see similar temps under similar conditions.

BTW, the stock voltage is wrong there. It should be 1.35v. All temps are listed in C degrees, and room temp was kept within +/- 1 degree.

[mikepaul]

Google says: 25 degrees Celsius = 77 degrees Fahrenheit, which is close I guess. That's what the thermostat in the other room is saying now.

OC'd to 2.87Ghz, my idle tonight was 44C. What qualifies as Load: Orthos?...

[t_ski]

For my testing I ran Orthos "blend" test and took a reading at exactly 30 minutes.

You are at 44C idle with the V1? I find that hard to believe. From everything I've read, the V1 should beat the Max Orb, which I had tested above at ~30C idle. How did you apply the AS5? It should be in a thin line across the center (lining up with the notch on the IHS). What about your BIOS fan settings? Are they all at stock?

[mikepaul]

For my testing I ran Orthos "blend" test and took a reading at exactly 30 minutes.

You are at 44C idle with the V1? I find that hard to believe. From everything I've read, the V1 should beat the Max Orb, which I had tested above at ~30C idle. How did you apply the AS5? It should be in a thin line across the center (lining up with the notch on the IHS). What about your BIOS fan settings? Are they all at stock?
No fan control, all spinning at will.

I've been following the rice-sized-dab-in-the-center instructions, which is supposed to be squashed out evenly enough to be OK. I read the razorblade-spread ones out there but decided the I'm not that good. Just now, I searched for other instructions and see the Official AS5 ones with the line up the center, but my tube of AS5 has started spitting out clear fluid along with the good stuff so I may have to get a new tube.

I guess since I've never seen temps as low as the 30s while OC'd since getting the P5W DH, it's always been good enough to get by on but not great.

I'll work on it. Thanks...

Huh. Dropped back to no OC and the temp fell no further than 41C so far after 15 minutes. Maybe the heat needs time to dissipate, but I'd expect just like post-Orthos testing that it'd fall faster than THIS...

[Zeus]

On my rev 1.02 board with a vMCH mod running at around 1.8V the max FSB I can hit is 420fsb stable with two sticks of ram. With 4 sticks of ram 400FSB is the stable max.


Here's my old rev 1.02 with 2x 1GB Gskill 6400HZ:

Vmch=~1.7V (pencilmodded)

[mikepaul]

Well, I guess this is OK: my temperature range is tight even if the low isn't LOW.

No overclock (Start temp ~41C, End temp 51C per tray icon):

http://www.mikepaul.com/OrthosNoOC.jpg

Full (as I can get it) overclock (Start temp ~46C, End temp 56C per tray icon):

http://www.mikepaul.com/OrthosOC.jpg

I'll worry later if/when the temps do jump up...

[phogger]

I upgraded BIOS from 1602 to 2004 last weekend. With 2004 the vcore is locked on "auto" and will not let me change.

I decided to revert to 1602 using ASUS Update and checked the Options menu radio button accordingly, but now that says that 1602 is not compatible with this mobo and won't let me downdate.

So I'm stuck on stock.

There must be a way to get past the "AUTO" limitation on 2004, eh? WhattaIneeds2do?

phogger

[alexlyc]

Hm, I think you have to be in manual oc mode in order to customize the vcore, I haven't touch mine for a long time, so I am not 100% sure

[phogger]

Hm, I think you have to be in manual oc mode in order to customize the vcore, I haven't touch mine for a long time, so I am not 100% sure

Yes. I had it running in manual mode with 1602 and expected to be able to replicate the rest of the setting with 2004, but could not change vcore after working my way down the page. . .

phogger

[p5wdh]

First answer about overclock to 4Ghz.
What are the Temps stressed ?
I see now a temp of 46 idle @ 3,6

Second Answer, about GPU fan to 100% in Vista..
Try Exper Tool.
I'm using it in XP with a XFX 8800GTS but dont know if it works on Vista..
You can find it here:
http://www.gainward.net/support/XPRT_50.zip

Thanks for the info... i will try expert tool and give you feedback... when i used orthos, it goes to maximum of 77... so is it possible? according to t_s, the max fsb for this mobo is 480?

[p5wdh]

expert tool does not work for my Palit 8800gts video card.. any other solutions for making my gpu fans runs 100%?

[Snake_Eyes]

expert tool does not work for my Palit 8800gts video card.. any other solutions for making my gpu fans runs 100%?Witch Drivers u use ?
If you use, and me to the 169.01 beta drivers than Exper Tool doesnt work to overclock and the speedfan settings to.
Other drivers works perfectly.

[Snake_Eyes]

Thanks for the info... i will try expert tool and give you feedback... when i used orthos, it goes to maximum of 77... so is it possible? according to t_s, the max fsb for this mobo is 480?Temps of 77 are to high..
If you got a G0 hold it max to 70c

[lawrywild]

Yes. I had it running in manual mode with 1602 and expected to be able to replicate the rest of the setting with 2004, but could not change vcore after working my way down the page. . .

phogger

Check you have C1E and EIST disabled in the CPU Configuration page.

[phogger]

Check you have C1E and EIST disabled in the CPU Configuration page.

That's it, of course. Thanks.

phogger

[Lurker246]

Hi Folks,

Finally received my 2900xt, and put it all together so here are some of my initial findings with a Q6600, board revision 1.03g running bios 2301:

Q6600
2GB Gskill HZ
2900XT 1GB DDR4 (o/c 838 Mhz Core 1150Mhz GDDR4)

Max stable FSB I cold reach 350 X 9 3.15Ghz
VMCH 1.85 Volts
Vcore 1.35 Volts
All other volts on stock

Gskill running at 2.1v 890Mhz 4-4-4-12 (This stuff is great I had it running at 1000 Mhz 2.3V and it was fine, just backed off as I'm new to this overclocking stuff)

Temps are 30c idle, 40c load- Thermalright Ultra 120

Orthos Stable for 9 hours


I tested Lawrys 2004 G0 bios but prime/orthos failed within minutes at 333 x 9
(Although Bioshock ran for about 4 hours at 1920 X 1080 with no problems)

The 2301 bios was much more stable for me, The system will even boot with a 400 x 8 but it hangs after post or will crap out at the windows loading bar. Anything between 351 - 400, The system will boot but highly unstable.

By the way.. all of the above is running on air.


That's my 2 cents, If anyone knows of any other settings I could try as I think I got lucky and there might be some more in this board for me.

Thanks again for starting this thread, the amount of information I learned here is staggering. This is my very first system build and I didn't have 1 problem assembling everything and setting the Bios thanks to this thread.:)

[WeldZilla]

you know I have been running this board for well over a year! This has been for me the absolute best board and system I have ever had my hands on. I have had my hands on many systems since 1979!! It has completely out-performed anything previously thought to be fast. I ran my Presler daily at 4800mhz my prescott 3.2 daily at 4400mhz, My 3.0C daily at 4086mhz and my 2.4C daily at 3637 mhz these were all extremely fast systems but they all completey fall by the way of the Conroe. now I have moved on the the Q6600 and with this new processor it is time to move on to a new board also. I just this evening ordered a new Asus board with the X38 chipset to run my new processor. My 11 year-old son Matt will take over the P5W DH along with the E6600 Conroe processor. We have a P5NE-sli board here but he want the P5W. I don't blame him So if there are to be any more posts from my place it will be from him and his thoughts. Good luck to all of you that run this board. I still believe it is worth the price you pay for it.


WZ

[scaramonga]

you know I have been running this board for well over a year! This has been for me the absolute best board and system I have ever had my hands on. I have had my hands on many systems since 1979!! It out has completely out-performed anything previously thought to be fast. I ran my Presler daily at 4800mhz my prescott 3.2 daily at 4400mhz, My 3.0C daily at 4086mhz and my 2.4C daily at 3637 mhz these were all extremely fast systems but they all completey fall by the way of the Conroe. now I have moved on the the Q6600 and with this new processor it is time to move on to a new board also. I just this evening ordered a new Asus board with the X38 chipset to run my new processor. My 11 year-old son Matt will take over the P5W DH along with the E6600 Conroe processor. We have a P5NE-sli board here but he want the P5W. I don't blame him So if there are to be any more post from my place it will be from him and his thoughts. Good luck to all of you that run this board. I still believe it is worth the price you pay for it. WZ

Good stuff :) I totally agree, this board is now in my other rig and still performing brilliantly, along with a E6600 also. Never had any major problems with it and has been the most stable board for me to date. :up:

[w2richwood]

you know I have been running this board for well over a year! This has been for me the absolute best board and system I have ever had my hands on. I have had my hands on many systems since 1979!! It has completely out-performed anything previously thought to be fast. I ran my Presler daily at 4800mhz my prescott 3.2 daily at 4400mhz, My 3.0C daily at 4086mhz and my 2.4C daily at 3637 mhz these were all extremely fast systems but they all completey fall by the way of the Conroe. now I have moved on the the Q6600 and with this new processor it is time to move on to a new board also. I just this evening ordered a new Asus board with the X38 chipset to run my new processor. My 11 year-old son Matt will take over the P5W DH along with the E6600 Conroe processor. We have a P5NE-sli board here but he want the P5W. I don't blame him So if there are to be any more posts from my place it will be from him and his thoughts. Good luck to all of you that run this board. I still believe it is worth the price you pay for it.


WZ

good luck with your new build WZ sure we will see you now and then in this wonderful trend long live the p5wdh
Rich

[John600rr]

Here's my old rev 1.02 with 2x 1GB Gskill 6400HZ:

Vmch=~1.7V (pencilmodded)

Nice board.

[http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=234629

Was all I could get out of mine. Pencil modded @ 1.78 vMCH.

[John600rr]

Well, I guess this is OK: my temperature range is tight even if the low isn't LOW.

No overclock (Start temp ~41C, End temp 51C per tray icon):


Full (as I can get it) overclock (Start temp ~46C, End temp 56C per tray icon):



I'll worry later if/when the temps do jump up...

You're definitely being held back by the board. I have a good feeling that E6300 has more room in it. Try max FSB testing @ 6x multi.

And you're temps are fine. Although they seem to point to a little too much vcore, but every CPU is different.

[t_ski]

I've been following the rice-sized-dab-in-the-center instructions, which is supposed to be squashed out evenly enough to be OK. I read the razorblade-spread ones out there but decided the I'm not that good. Just now, I searched for other instructions and see the Official AS5 ones with the line up the center, but my tube of AS5 has started spitting out clear fluid along with the good stuff so I may have to get a new tube.

If you have a clean disposable surface to work with, you might squirt out what you can and mix it up, then carefully apply it in a line like AS recommends. I would think a small rice-sized squirt like we did on the AMD CPUs would not be enough to fully cover the core on these Intel chips.

What program are you using to monitor CPU temps?

[mikepaul]

What program are you using to monitor CPU temps?
Core Temp. The version I just got is the one displaying the two temps in the tray in my pictures. The author didn't get back to me on my question about displaying 8 temps for an octal-core, though...

[mikepaul]

You're definitely being held back by the board. I have a good feeling that E6300 has more room in it. Try max FSB testing @ 6x multi.

And you're temps are fine. Although they seem to point to a little too much vcore, but every CPU is different.
I was using Auto vCore up until this last month when I set it to 1.325V, but it still bounces around underneath that anyway. I don't see why they have Auto and specific settings if the specific ones aren't either max or min volts: if I set 1.325 I expect 1.325. Just letting it bounce around anyway seems lame.

I didn't get 3Ghz but I'm OK. Bumping up to 4GB RAM has cost me some RAM speed when 6400 causes the PC to lock up (I have to remove RAM to just change BIOS settings back), but 4800 hasn't looked awful.

The real work will come when I get my next CPU (best 45nm 4-core I can afford since 8-core sounds like a 2-year wait for good price), so I'll stick with what I've got for now...

[t_ski]

Core Temp. The version I just got is the one displaying the two temps in the tray in my pictures. The author didn't get back to me on my question about displaying 8 temps for an octal-core, though...

I was using SpeedFan to monitor mine (CPU reading, not Core 1 or Core 2). If you'd like, try running that and see how your numbers compare. I'm at school ATM, but I might try Core Temp later on.

[w2richwood]

i use core temp 94.5 i think it is. and speed fan they read the same so i guess there right
Rich

[riiaku]

i updated the bios to 2004 mod, but i didnt reset the CMOS by removing the battery, is that bad? Do i have to remove the battery every time i update the bios? cause my vista is going crazy now started a couple days ago. and i updated about a week ago.

[mikepaul]

Maybe I will be overclocking a Penryn... (http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/10/29/intel_penryn_4ghz_with_air_cooling/)

[riiaku]

I was using SpeedFan to monitor mine (CPU reading, not Core 1 or Core 2). If you'd like, try running that and see how your numbers compare. I'm at school ATM, but I might try Core Temp later on.

hey dude can u help me out with my question, i updated the bios to 2004 mod, but i didnt reset the CMOS by removing the battery, is that bad? Do i have to remove the battery every time i update the bios? cause my vista is going crazy now started a couple days ago. and i updated about a week ago.

[w2richwood]

it wont hurt unplug all power remove battery put cmos jumper on 2/3 let set for a few min. then put everything back and boot in to bios set your opions
Rich

[Brahmzy]

I'm still using 1503, its been running smooth for a long time but i have some sound problems in vista with games, i read in other forums that updating my bios would do the trick.

My question is what is the most stable bios out of all of these that would maintain my 3.2 gigahertz overclock of my core 2 duo 6400 and also be stable with no bugs? Or hopefully allow me to push to a higher overclock if possible. I'm using OCZ Platinum Revision 2 2GB DDR800 PC6400 ram. It wont boot even if i go one megahertz past 400, so yeah. Can anyone please lend a helping hand?

EDIT: just tried the 2004 mod bios, booted up ran load setup defaults, did not clear cmos though, but still runs great. I went into bios set up my overclock options and it runs awesome, all i gotta do now is run it with games and see if it solved the problem, vista needs a lot of work.

What is memory remap feature and what is better for OCing disabled or enabled. what is dram throttling too? do i need it? and what about the CPU thermal control what would that do if i disabled it. sorry for all the questions guys its just i always wondered if i really needed these options or not and what they did.

I'm in the EXACT same situation as you. I've had 1503 running for a LONG time now (since it came out) with a nice stable E6600 @ 3.4/3.6GHz OC. I don't wanna mess that up, but I'm going to be installing Vista x64 this weekend and want to make my box is "ready."

Should I just stick wih 1503?

[t_ski]

it wont hurt unplug all power remove battery put cmos jumper on 2/3 let set for a few min. then put everything back and boot in to bios set your opions
Rich

Agreed

[lawrywild]

I'm in the EXACT same situation as you. I've had 1503 running for a LONG time now (since it came out) with a nice stable E6600 @ 3.4/3.6GHz OC. I don't wanna mess that up, but I'm going to be installing Vista x64 this weekend and want to make my box is "ready."

Should I just stick wih 1503?

Why not try it first?

If you get problems use 1707 or official 2004.

[TrancëJay]

Sorry if this was already asked. Does this MoBo support Yorkfield?

[curvie]

Sorry if this was already asked. Does this MoBo support Yorkfield?

I believe BIOS 2302 will enable support for 45nm cpus per this page (http://event.asus.com/mb/45nm/).

[J.A.]

My adventure with this motherboard:

I have this motherboard with the below setup for over a year now. The CPU is overclock to 3GHz and fully stable (with increase NB voltage, but I don’t remember by how much offhand).

One day (few months ago) my system was acting weird so I open it up to see what was wrong with it. Turn out one of the hooks that hold the NB cooler in place had completely broken off and cooler was just dangling there and not making contact with the chip. I superglued the hook back on, but it was too weak to hold the CL-C0034 in place, so I had to put the original NB cooler back on.

Few weeks after that the top PCIEx16 slot malfunctioned, so I had to move my video card (Sapphire Radeon X1900 XT 512MB) to the bottom slot, but not long after the video card died completely (tested with 3 different systems and monitors).

Bought a 7600GT to replace and just few days ago the 7600GT is also dead. Now here’s a nub question: can overclocking the CPU with increase NB voltage kill or shorten the lifespan of video cards? The video cards were not overclocked.

It's either that this mobo is shortening the lifespan of the graphic cards I put in it or I am just very unlucky.

I'm about to buy the 88000GT and now I'm unsure about putting it in this MB. Any suggestions?


Thanks.

---

Specs:
Antec P180 Case
Intel E6600 @ 3GHz
Corsair Twin2X2048-PC2-8500C5
Tuniq Tower 120
Seasonic S12 600W
Jing Ting JTS0006 chipset cooler for SB
Thermaltak CL-C0034 chipset cooler for NB

[lawrywild]

One day (few months ago) my system was acting weird so I open it up to see what was wrong with it. Turn out one of the hooks that hold the NB cooler in place had completely broken off and cooler was just dangling there and not making contact with the chip. I superglued the hook back on, but it was too weak to hold the CL-C0034 in place, so I had to put the original NB cooler back on.


Hah, welcome to the club. :yepp:

Was the chipset cooler touching the graphics card? Mine was lieing on my 7900GTO but didn't do any damage thank god.. :rolleyes:

[J.A.]

Hah, welcome to the club. :yepp:

Was the chipset cooler touching the graphics card? Mine was lieing on my 7900GTO but didn't do any damage thank god.. :rolleyes:

It was resting on the graphic card, but the card didn't died until much later. I guess the odds had caught up to me, I never once had a graphic card failed on me, and then two cards failed within a month of each other. At least my 7600GT is still cover by warranty.

[Sparx]

I just ordered a Q6600 GO to update my year old PW5 DH.
I spent some time reading this thread from 9-1-07 to present- :eek:

What I wanted help with is this:

Should I flash to new BIOS before I install the Q6600? (using 1503 now)

I decided to use 2004 (Larrywild's-BIOS) until just reading about an "Official" 2004 BIOS-- Which one? :confused:

I have an older P5W-- Revision 1.02G. All components to remain the same as well as XP.
Yes I intend to overclock but do not expect to hit 3.6 as with the E6600.

Appreciate input.
sparx

[w2richwood]

i would use Larrywild's BIOS the official bios dosent support quad's
Rich

[Sparx]

Thanks w2richwood-
I suppose I need to flash before I install the Q6600?

[w2richwood]

well yes if its the go stepping it may boot but not be right
Rich

[MacClipper]

Thanks w2richwood-
I suppose I need to flash before I install the Q6600?
It will POST OK but you will get the CPU microcode error which was happened in my setup, just flash to the next BIOS and you are good to go.

[lawrywild]

It will POST OK but you will get the CPU microcode error which was happened in my setup, just flash to the next BIOS and you are good to go.

Yea, It will work like that but seeing as he already has an E6600, I would say flash before installing the Q6600.

[Sparx]

OK
Thanks.
I hope the BIOS elements are similar to what I have in 1503- meaning not too many new and different settings to adjust.
sparx

OT- I don't get email alerts when this thread is posted to- any ideas? My current email addresss is entered and I am subscribed. :(

[Sparx]

LarryWild
What is the difference between your modded 2004 and official 2004 BIOS?
tia
Sparx

[Gig4moller]

The only difference is that his modded bios has the microcodes for G0 and 45nm CPU's added.

[Brahmzy]

Yeah, so yesterday I got my other 2x1GB sticks of OCZ Plat Rev2 6400 memory for a total of 4GB. I'm planning on going Vista x64 this weekend.

Anyway, I installed the additional 2GBs in my box and completely lose stability. I ended up having to drop my total OC from 3.4GHz to 3.2GHz on my E6600. I'm kinda pissed. I spent 3 hours trying EVERYTHING. RAM timings, voltages, MCH, etc. I'm not fully certain I'm totally 100% stable @ 3.2GHz - I only let Orthos run for an hour.

Damn. There's no way I'm forkin' the $$$ for 2x2GB DIMMs either, so I guess I'm stuck with this. I'm on 1503. A newer BIOS wouldn't allow anymore stability, would it?

[Sparx]

Brahmzy-
My experience is much like yours over the years. Two sticks of RAM overclock better than four. Not really your fault, just a fact.

I want to get 2 sticks of 2gig for a total of 4 gigs but I wonder how that would effect my OC. Time will tell.
sparx

[w2richwood]

you need to up your ram and nb volts when running four sticks of ram
Rich

[Brahmzy]

you need to up your ram and nb volts when running four sticks of ram
Rich

Been there done that. I tried about 20 different combos of voltages trying to get things stable - no go. The only thing that brought stability was dropping my OC by 200Mhz.

Bummer.

[w2richwood]

what a bummer had to pay at that :(
Rich

[rafaeldb]

I wondering if any of you guys know a way to keep speedstep turn on and when I want choose it to be working at full power? Because when I watch movies it tends to sutter all the times because keeps changed the multiplier

[tompl]

i cant downgrade bios from 2204 to 2004... i tried to dwonload 2103 and the same errors occurs: version of bios is older..
what can i do ?

[pphx459]

Yeah, so yesterday I got my other 2x1GB sticks of OCZ Plat Rev2 6400 memory for a total of 4GB. I'm planning on going Vista x64 this weekend.

Anyway, I installed the additional 2GBs in my box and completely lose stability. I ended up having to drop my total OC from 3.4GHz to 3.2GHz on my E6600. I'm kinda pissed. I spent 3 hours trying EVERYTHING. RAM timings, voltages, MCH, etc. I'm not fully certain I'm totally 100% stable @ 3.2GHz - I only let Orthos run for an hour.

Damn. There's no way I'm forkin' the $$$ for 2x2GB DIMMs either, so I guess I'm stuck with this. I'm on 1503. A newer BIOS wouldn't allow anymore stability, would it?

I had the same issue when adding 2gigs a few months ago, but I think my bios update may have helped. I'm using 2302 and XP runs perfectly with the same overclock.

I just installed Vista this weekend too and everything seems to be running ok. I can play bf2142 all day without any problems. I've also tried Crysis Demo and that seems to be ok. The only game that has crashed so far is UT3 Demo but that's probably video driver related.

One other annoying issue is the fact that if I play videos in winamp 5.5 I get hangs with a loud beep coming from the speaker. If I use windows media player, that issue disappears - odd...

[lawrywild]

i cant downgrade bios from 2204 to 2004... i tried to dwonload 2103 and the same errors occurs: version of bios is older..
what can i do ?

Use afudos v2.11 or 2.17 or use asus flash in windows (not recommended) and tick 'allow downgrade bios' or whatever the option is.

[tommynsong]

Hey lawrywild,

I apologize of this question has been answered, I just can't sems to find my answer (i've been searching and reading). What is was trying to do is to have my 2 SATAII drives as JBOD on ICH controller with an IDE DVD burner. I currently have 2302 BIOS and willing to flush with your 2004 BIOS if this would make any different. Please help me to get this working (change jumper/BIOS settings or anything).
I really appreciate your time.

Tommy

[Brahmzy]

I had the same issue when adding 2gigs a few months ago, but I think my bios update may have helped. I'm using 2302 and XP runs perfectly with the same overclock.

I just installed Vista this weekend too and everything seems to be running ok. I can play bf2142 all day without any problems. I've also tried Crysis Demo and that seems to be ok. The only game that has crashed so far is UT3 Demo but that's probably video driver related.

One other annoying issue is the fact that if I play videos in winamp 5.5 I get hangs with a loud beep coming from the speaker. If I use windows media player, that issue disappears - odd...

Thanks! I'll give 2302 a shot!

[Brahmzy]

OK. So I flashed to 2302. First thing I noticed during POST is my memory shows 3GB, not 4GB.

I go into the BIOS and check System Information and it says:

System Memory
Total: 4,096MB
Appropriated: 1,024MB
Available: 3,072MB

WTF is that about? I don't have Windows loaded at the moment - is my Vista x64 going to be able to see all 4GB's? Is this a newer BIOS "thing"?

My 1503 BIOS never said anything like this.

[MacClipper]

Enable the Memory Remapping option in the BIOS.

[Brahmzy]

Enable the Memory Remapping option in the BIOS.

Boo-yeah. UDAMAN.

Thanks.

[icrunk]

I have the asus p5w-dh.. and i was wondering where i should be putting the multimeter to read the actual vcore voltage on this board...

Been searching these forums.. couldnt find a thing

[Mordor]

Hi,

You can actually run 4 sata hdd's off your intel ICH7 southbridge, and I would highly recommend this over trying to get the JMicron and/or the SiliconImage crap(ez-backup) working.

Plug your drives into SATA 1 (red), SATA 3(actually#2 black), SATA 4 (black), remove the jumpers off the ez-backup area, and plug into the right yellow ez-raid port (actually SATA2). I don't remember the physical marking of the right ez-raid port, so please forgive me.

If you have the jumpers off and boot with the drive attached, you'll see it in the list of the ICH7 area as your box posts, if it's in the wrong one, you won't see anything. Also, you may want to set the DH Features Change option in the bios to Enabled when you take out the jumper and attach the drive to have it tell the SiliconImage crap to turn off.

Bingo. You have 4 hdds on ICH7 and can turn off JMicron in bios.

Has anyone tried this suggestion and been sucessful.

I am currently trying this, but I am having problems getting windows XP to see the drive. I can see the 4th drive in the bios and under post, but in windows under disk management, device manager etc it is nowhere to be found. I am a little stumped right now, as I can't quite see what I am doing wrong. Thanks in advance for any help :-)

[roger_h99.nor]

I have the asus p5w-dh.. and i was wondering where i should be putting the multimeter to read the actual vcore voltage on this board...

Been searching these forums.. couldnt find a thing

I've found that Speedfan reports the vcore very close to what you can measure with a DMM.

You can measure vcore on either of the chokes - use a leg towards the cpusocket, as there is a voltage drop across the choke.

(Choke - black 'thing' with copperwire inside)

[Lurker246]

I thought this board was bullet proof, Didn't have a single problem with my first system build running 333 X 9 Q6600 3.0Ghz and then....

I went to burn a cd last night and the system froze, Rebooted, to test the burner NEC 3500-A played a DVD, copied a DVD, played a CD, everything fine. Went to burn a CD again and the system froze and I got a bsod. Rebooted and tested again, another bsod. Gradually this got worse until the drive wouldn't read or burn anything, it would just cause a bsod as soon as it tried to read a disc. I figured the drive was broken as I have a 250GB hard drive also connected to the ICH7R IDE which was working fine.

I removed the DVD drive from the ICH7R and tested it on the JMicron. It worked fine. Attempted to reboot and the system wouldn't boot. Reset CMOS still would not boot. I removed the 250GB hard drive from the IDE on ICH7R and system booted up fine.

Now anytime I connect anything to the ICH7R IDE the system won't boot. I checked the pins, all fine and tested 3 or 4 cables. Although I'm also running a 40GB SATA hard drive on the ICH7R and it's fine. I guess the IDE is dead- great, that lasted about 3 weeks for me :-(. Thank God the Jmicron can do ATAPI. Hard drive and DVD that were connected to the ICH7R are now running perfectly on the Jmicron.

Anyone come across a similar problem?

[Chrysalis]

Lurker I have found the ICH7 ide to be poorer than the jmicron yes.

[IcemaN22]

Hey guys, hope someone can help me, I have VERY irritating problem here now with my new ram (Crucial BallistiX PC8500 4gb).
First I will say that the ram can run up to 1180mhz CL5 stable without problems with 295fsb on cpu, but the problem starts when I want to use 380fsb. When I choose that I can choose between 950mhz, 1013 and 1140, I want 1140 ofcourse. So I choose 1140 with CL5 on 2.4V, XP is loading... and then BAM Bluescreen and restart! 1013mhz don't work at all, black picture only. So now we have only the 950mhz remaining, and that works, but I have paid for ram that almost tolerate 1200mhz and then you understand why I dont want 950.
PLEASE, what is the problem here, what can I do to get 1140mhz to work with 380fsb? I consider to buy Asus maximus formula, but I dont want to because p5w is good enough, please dont let me sell this board.
I have the latest bios, 2302. Im grateful for every help I can get.
Cpu-z now:

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1493/probomeut3.th.jpg (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=probomeut3.jpg)

[crishan]

I am waiting for ASUS to actually come out with a non-broken Bios...

As Station Drivers (http://www.station-drivers.com/index.html) already lists tons of new Bioses for the whole P5B series, I am hoping that
ASUS also has some of their coders doing a debug of the P5WDH bios.

It is so annoying to be stuck with a broken Bios for now, what, 4 months?

[Brahmzy]

Has anyone tried this suggestion and been sucessful.

I am currently trying this, but I am having problems getting windows XP to see the drive. I can see the 4th drive in the bios and under post, but in windows under disk management, device manager etc it is nowhere to be found. I am a little stumped right now, as I can't quite see what I am doing wrong. Thanks in advance for any help :-)

I am VERY interested in this - I've never heard this. I just ordered a 3rd WD740ADFD Raptor to make 3 in RAID0 and a 4th WD2500KS HDD. This is forcing me to enable the JMicron BS. If I don't have to, that's great news.

We need to find this out!!!!!!!!!!

[w2richwood]

yes it will work just take of the jumpers on the easy raid on the board then reboot enable easyraido and you have four on the ich7r easy raid no. 2

[ntvh]

Will this MB will work with GeForce 8800 GTS PCI Express 640 DDR3? Thank you for your help.:confused:

[w2richwood]

i dont see why not long as you power supply is good nuff

[ntvh]

Yes, you are right. The reason I asked because when I shutdown or turn on the power for my computer ...it come up with the sound...then I chked out their website they said...I need bigger Power supply. My PW is 500W . I guess time to upgrade my power supply. Thank you for your help.:clap: :clap:

[w2richwood]

no problem always glad to help
Rich

[~aoe~]

I am VERY interested in this - I've never heard this. I just ordered a 3rd WD740ADFD Raptor to make 3 in RAID0 and a 4th WD2500KS HDD. This is forcing me to enable the JMicron BS. If I don't have to, that's great news.

We need to find this out!!!!!!!!!!
RAID 0 with 3 disks? I think you need multiples of 2 disks for RAID 0. RAID 5 uses 3 disks (or multiples thereof). Also, the performance increase when going from 2 x RAID 0 to 4 x RAID 0 is minimal (I was considering the same myself until I saw the figures). Can't remember where I saw this comparison, but if I find it I'll post a link.

I also have a strange problem with hdd recognition. I've had to put one of my disks on the orange EZ_RAID1 port (my storage disk), but the model number of the disk is not recognised. It simply shows as 'External Disk 0'. Seems to work fine, so just an annoyance rather than a problem. I did try to install on the EZ_RAID2 port, but that didn't work. Saying that, I haven't tried removing the jumper.

[yane...]

hey Guys,

what the temp you have on your mb measured in sandra? I am getting about 50 Celsius, is that ok or is it too high?
cpu temp is about 28c.

thanks

[yane...]

...and one more thing: has any of you had problem during startup when all lights are on, but there is no post? computer just stops, all you can see is hd working and hear all fans. that's it. nothing else. it's worth mentioning that I haven't changed anything in bios. usually, I have to reset cmos and leave it unplugged from the power for about 10 to 15 mins. then it works fine pc is booting up.
is the motherboard faulty? I just bought it last Sunday and think that I should exchange it. also, which other mb from asus would you recommend? or maybe I should stick to p5w?

thank you

[~aoe~]

hey Guys,

what the temp you have on your mb measured in sandra? I am getting about 50 Celsius, is that ok or is it too high?
cpu temp is about 28c.

thanks
What cpu and heatsink do you have ? Is it overclocked (I guess not if you haven't changed any BIOS settings as you say in your next post) ? What's you're ambient temp ? Does the case have good ventilation ?

CPU temp of 28C idle is fine. 50C for motherboard is a bit high, but nothing to worry too much about. The sensor is positioned close to the northbridge (if my memory is correct), so any additional ventilation you can provide to that area should help to reduce the temps.

[Brahmzy]

RAID 0 with 3 disks? I think you need multiples of 2 disks for RAID 0. RAID 5 uses 3 disks (or multiples thereof). Also, the performance increase when going from 2 x RAID 0 to 4 x RAID 0 is minimal (I was considering the same myself until I saw the figures). Can't remember where I saw this comparison, but if I find it I'll post a link.

I also have a strange problem with hdd recognition. I've had to put one of my disks on the orange EZ_RAID1 port (my storage disk), but the model number of the disk is not recognised. It simply shows as 'External Disk 0'. Seems to work fine, so just an annoyance rather than a problem. I did try to install on the EZ_RAID2 port, but that didn't work. Saying that, I haven't tried removing the jumper.

RAID0 you can use 2,3 or 4 disks. "Minimal" performance increase is subjective. I've seen the benchies too and 180MB/sec throughput compared to 260MB/sec is plenty to justify the price I paid for this cheap used 740ADFD from a friend.

I'm a RaptorRAID0holic.

[Brahmzy]

yes it will work just take of the jumpers on the easy raid on the board then reboot enable easyraido and you have four on the ich7r easy raid no. 2

Thanks! I'll give it a shot!

[~aoe~]

RAID0 you can use 2,3 or 4 disks.
My mistake - must be losing it in my old age :p:

"Minimal" performance increase is subjective. I've seen the benchies too and 180MB/sec throughput compared to 260MB/sec is plenty to justify the price I paid for this cheap used 740ADFD from a friend.
I thought the benefits were much less. If those figures are accurate then I would agree it's worth it.

Thanks! I'll give it a shot!
Let me know how it goes. I may consider giving it a try myself - I've got a spare raptor lying around that I need to find a use for.

[yane...]

I have used the fan which comes with processor so no "rocket science" here. the case have the whole front full of filters and solid fan at the back so the airflow is pretty good I would say. I have seen in sandra something really weird, as the prog showed me about 100C ambient temp. strange, isn't?
as I said, no tweaks were done in bios. didn't want to do it as I had the issue described in my second post.

what about my second question? did anyone experience any similar issue?

[~aoe~]

With the standard intel heatsink, you'll have air being blown onto the area around the NB. However, with only 1 fan exhausting air from the case and no intake fans, airflow through the case could be a problem and you could get a build up of heat inside the case. Are you able to add any additional fans to the case (intake on front, for example). Which case do you have?

To measure ambient, it's best to use an external thermometer (the ambient we want is the room temp). Any reading of 'ambient' from software will only measure from a sensor inside the case (which means it will be case temp). I wouldn't trust that reading from Sandra.

No ideas spring to mind regarding your 2nd post.

[yane...]

well,yeah, I think I will exchange mb then :/ I don't really want to reset cmos every morning:/ besides, that's a bit unacceptable for me to pay 100pounds for mb and experience such issue...

thank you for suggestions with the fan. I'll see what I can do

[pphx459]

Thanks! I'll give it a shot!

Curious on your results! :)

[Brahmzy]

Curious on your results! :)

The drive should be here Friday or Saturday. I'll post result and benchies.

[ChronoDog]

I've been out of the loop for a while (about 6 months), now I have some free time again and here I am looking at my good old PC :confused:

A couple of questions:

1) I'm using the 2004 bios (original ASUS), should I bother to update it for any reason?
2) The CPU is a E4300 @ 3.6ghz, should I consider upgrading it to a Q6600/E6850 while still having this 975x mobo?

Help out a noob in need :)

TIA

[w2richwood]

well the quad seems to be the future thats for sure this board will run it be sure to get the go stepping and you will have to up date your bios for that to 2302 i think it is or lawys modded bios on the first page
Rich

[Brahmzy]

I've heard the P35 chipset is a much better/stable chipset to OC the quads.

[w2richwood]

yes it may but this board dose ok with quads maybe not as good as p35s but ok
Rich

[lawrywild]

I've heard the P35 chipset is a much better/stable chipset to OC the quads.

This motherboard is stable with quads as long as you want only a moderate overclock. My 3Ghz Q6600 is really stable and I'm very satisfied with stability and performance. No reason to upgrade motherboard or overclock higher for me really.

The only thing that bothers me with this motherboard now is how long will the other northbridge hook last and this time will it kill my 7900GTO... :down:

[Brahmzy]

Any truth to the fact that the P5W DH does not OC well with 4 sticks of RAM and the the P35 chipset (i.e. P5K DLX) handles 4 sticks much better?

[Lurker246]

Yes I'm an idiot and the board is still bullet proof!:)

The ICH7R IDE problem I had was really annoying me so I removed the motherboard and found the center pin on the IDE connector was pushed back very slightly. I didn't notice this when checking the pins as I had left the motherboard in my case and it looked fine. Pushed it back to normal position and I can use the ICH7R ide again. Although the Jmicron has been working fine for me the last few days.

That's the last time I try and check the IDE connector with the board still in the case.

[lawrywild]

P35 is better at clocking memory from the start than 975x. Both motherboards clock lower with 4GB than 2GB. That's all.

So obviously P35 is better with 4GB than 975x is with 4GB, old news.

[w2richwood]

this board has been so good to me i have a hard time thinking about up grading i guess it will end up my back up cuz im not selling it :p:

[ashefps]

Any truth to the fact that the P5W DH does not OC well with 4 sticks of RAM and the the P35 chipset (i.e. P5K DLX) handles 4 sticks much better?

My overclocking wasn't affected by the RAM, I had my E6600 OC'd from 2.6 GHz to 3.1 GHz, only the RAM speed was an issue. I had 4x1 GB sticks in this board and was only able to run the at PC2-6400 speeds. I picked up an Asus Maximus Formula and can run the same RAM at PC2-8500 speeds.

I would say that other boards can definitely handle the 4x1 GB RAM configuration better.

[w2richwood]

i see no resson to go to 4gb of ram less you go vista 64 bit

[Brahmzy]

i see no resson to go to 4gb of ram less you go vista 64 bit

That's exactly why I went with 4gb's.... ;)

I've fought off Vista for too long. Time to just bite bullet and get used to MS's next OS. I really do like it better than XP. It IS slower in a lot of things and XP is so polished and refined - lean and mean.

If you're goin' Vista though, it's silly NOT to go x64. The driver support is SO much better than XP x64 was/is.

[w2richwood]

are most of your games compatable with vista 64 bit
Rich

[willwill02]

But this didn't happen under Bios 1101 so your answer is still not directed towards my question.

I understand I need a 64bit OS to see all the ram--that's not the question. If the previous bios I was using DID NOT appropriate any memory, and the OS I am using now "sees" 3GB of ram BEFORE I flashed to 1506 without appropriating 1152MBs of ram---how can I get that appropriated ram back?

This is a BIOS/Motherboard question--not and OS question.

Hi all - new member, first post.

I've just bought and installed 4 gig of G-Skill 800 MHz memory, and am having problems - no errors, as such, but I have a problem with the mboard.
I know about the 32 bit memory hole, and that I'd only ever see 3.2 or something - but -

I can't turn the memory remap feature on as my OS (Vista) is only 32 bit. And with the remap disabled, the motherboard is appropriating 1.53 gig for my 2 graphics cards.
So only 2.5 shows up in Windows.

1 x 2 headed ATI Radeon X1950XTX - 2 x 512m heads = 1024
1 x 2 headed ATI Radeon X1300 - 2 x 256m heads = 512
Totaled up: 1536 Meg appropriated and unavailable to any OS.

Vista shows 2560 meg RAM.

If I enable the memory remap feature, the BIOS shows 0 appropriated, 4096 available to OS, but Vista 32 bit shows 2048 meg only.

Burner27 said in this thread that when he had BIOS version 1101 installed, it didn't appropriate anything - but with the latest BIOS, it does.
I'm running the latest (2302)- and I am going to have to try each anterior version one by one until I get to one (hopefully before I get to anything as old as 1101) that doesn't appropriate any RAM to give my system a chance to see 3.2 gig of the 4.

It's frustrating - if it didn't have this RAM to appropriate when I only had 2 gig, why on earth would they code a BIOS that needs to knick my RAM just becuase I put MORE in? It makes no sense - more and more people are using dual graphics cards - and this board has two PCIe slots!!!
If the board didn't appropriate when I only had 2 gig RAM, then it doesn't NEED to, thus this appropriation is unecessary and wrong!

I don't suppose any of you happen to know from which BIOS version this started? Otherwise I'll be flashing my board about 25 times over the next few hours.....

Many thanks if you find the time to reply to this.

Cheers

will

CPU E6600

[yoggi]

After much time and effort I noticed that u can only downgrade from Bios 22xx to 2004 using version 6.x of Asus update. Asus doesn´t know this apparently.

Anyway the Asus support send me Bios 2403.

Dear Valued ASUS Customer

Please try the attached BIOS which should contain a fix for your problem.
If it works or you notice anything wrong please give us feedback and we will look into it.

Best Regards
ASUS TMSS Support



U might want it, the Onboard sound auto activation is fixed according to this guy as I asked about it.


I have NOT tested this bios myself and have no idea if it´s a beta bios.
It´s not listed on asus website. Asus update confirms this bios is from Yesterday 8/11.
http://files.filefront.com/P5W+DH+ASUS+Deluxe+2403zip/;9000922;/fileinfo.html

[Gig4moller]

Cool, waiting for the first experiences before I will try this bios myself. I'm getting annoyed by this auto onboard sound activation with 2302 :D

[crishan]

The first results from German forum 'forumdeluxx' are encouraging:

Users are reporting that Speedstep works again plus that it is again
possible to disable the onboard sound

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showpost.php?p=7459467&postcount=50
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showpost.php?p=7461920&postcount=61

Both in German; sufice to say, they're happy with it so far.

[Eastcoasthandle]

I'm using 2302 now and never noticed onboard audio turning on. How is this happening? Are you by chance going into the bios and see it as enabled or something else?

[Eastcoasthandle]

As far as I am concerned this MB is best used with the EXX00 series CPUs at 1066 FSB vs EXX50 CPUs at 1333 FSB when it comes to OC. With a E6700 OC'd 3.4 I could do 4:5 on the ram. With a E6850 OC 3.4 or 3.6 I can only do 1:1. The dram frequencies are so high in the BIOS you would need a 1333 Ram in order to get anything other then 1:1. Problem is, 1333 ram are only found in DDR3 not DDR2. The P35 (http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/P35/index.htm) or X38 (http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/x38/) is a perfect fit for the EXX50 series of CPUs at 1333 system bus while the P5W DH is a perfect fit for the 1066 CPUs.

This is the main difference between the aging 975 powerhouse vs P35 or X38. Over clocking capabilities will very from one chipset to the next however the most noted difference that matters most is that the P35 and X38 are designed to use 333 FSB CPUs that are entering the market.

If there is a way to set the FSB strap on a P5W DH to 333 I am all ears!

[Eastcoasthandle]

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/E6850/th_OC_settings.jpg (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/E6850/OC_settings.jpg)
In the pic above, the Dram Frequency is set to 800, not 1000

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/E6850/th_OC_3_6_PC6400.jpg (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/E6850/OC_3_6_PC6400.jpg)
This is the result of the bios settings using PC8500.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/E6850/th_Overclock_Profile.jpg (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/E6850/Overclock_Profile.jpg)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/E6850/th_OC_Profile_3_0.jpg (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/E6850/OC_Profile_3_0.jpg)
In order for the Bios to recognize your E6750 or E6850, etc you have to use the Overclock Profile and select 1333/DDR2/884 or 667. Or else, it would downclock your E6750 or E6850 when booting up at standard clock. Also, this is from bios 2302. I read there is a 2403 (or something similar) but I haven't found it yet.

[Brahmzy]

I'm noticing that dang onboard sound crap too. After every power off, then power on, the onboard audio is enabled again (visible in the BIOS.) 2302 needs to go NOW.

Where's 2303?

[Brahmzy]

Trying 2403 now........

UPDATE:

This BIOS is safe (from links above) and the onboard audio problem is fixed! WOOT.

[Eastcoasthandle]

I'm noticing that dang onboard sound crap too. After every power off, then power on, the onboard audio is enabled again (visible in the BIOS.) 2302 needs to go NOW.

Where's 2303?

What onboard audio? How did you know onboard vs sound card was turned on? :shrug:

[crishan]

By simply entering the bios / Having it reapper in Windows (although I had it switched off earlier inside the bios) every friggin' time.

With the craptacular 2205, 2206, 2301 and 2302, the onboard audio plus the onboard serial would always reactivate themselves.
These bioses also had issues with Speedstep not working etc.

Apparently, the onboard-audio-bug would mostly happen to people who had the onboard audio switched to "off" before they were flashing 2205/2206/2301/2302.
That could also be a reason why Asus' bios writers didn't catch this bug.

[Grendel66]

Uh, I always had it switched off and it never switched itself on through all mentioned BIOSes. Weird.

[Eastcoasthandle]

Uh, I always had it switched off and it never switched itself on through all mentioned BIOSes. Weird.

This is how I updated as well. That's why I don't understand what's going on. One rule of thumb that I thought everyone knew is to go to default cpu and default ram settings before you update a bios. I wonder if that had anything to do with the problems some are having. :shrug:

[w2richwood]

i always load defaults before flashing the reset cmos after flash and it always worked for me
Rich

[crishan]

OK, firstly, this is not a "made-up" bug.
It's funny how you're implying that people are making this up (although not quite
saying it out loud), while on the other hand, you're not making the slightest
attempt to read up on that bug on this particular thread.
There is a page counter to this thread, up on the right, you know. :rolleyes:

Secondly, DUH, certainly I (we, who were plagued by this bug) know how
to load setup defaults. :mad:

Remember just because you yourself weren't plagued by this bug does not mean that others weren't!

Just entering 2302 into the search function would have turned up this:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2428122&postcount=6033
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2431189&postcount=6045
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2439387&postcount=6097

Still (underhandedly) trying to call people liars? :down:

[willwill02]

Hi guys.

As you may have seen from my post above on this page, I'm trying to flash my BIOS back to a much earlier one. The standard Asus DOS flash prog will let me regress a few versions but not to the one I believe I need. It says "the BIOS you are trying to flash to may not be compatible with this motherboard" Eh? They might be old, but they're all for this board. Don't get it.

I really need to do this as the damn BIOS is allowing the motherboard to 'appropriate' 1.6 gig of my 4 gig RAM, thus only allowing me 2.5 in windows. (All explained in my post above).

Is there a more powerful flash tool that I can try? The utility built into the bios system seems to be very buggy and slow; I used it once but wouldn't depend on it. DOS versions seem to be easier.

Many thanks!

Will

ps I know there's another thread within this thread about sound issues - did I post correctly by continuing in this thread rather than starting a fresh one? 258 pages of thread is about the longest I've ever seen....ta.

[lawrywild]

This is how I updated as well. That's why I don't understand what's going on. One rule of thumb that I thought everyone knew is to go to default cpu and default ram settings before you update a bios. I wonder if that had anything to do with the problems some are having. :shrug:

No. I always flash my bios with defaults loaded, then load defaults again after the flash. Then restart and enter settings, and trust me, this bug happens.. EIST stays Disabled and Onboard audio stays Enabled. Started on 2205 and 2302 had it too. Have not tested 2403 yet, can't really be bothered, systems working well right now.

[Gig4moller]

Just updated to 2403, no problems thus far.

Also onboard audio is staying disabled now.

[Brahmzy]

Just updated to 2403, no problems thus far.

Also onboard audio is staying disabled now.

+1 - no more problems for me with 2403.

[pphx459]

I actually noticed that the bios kept enabling the sound a week ago, I was going to ask you guys about that, good to know I'm not the only one. So it's safe to use 2403 eh? Still thinking about it since the system is pretty stable atm..

edit: fux it, i'm installing it now..

edit: woot, sound problem fixed! Everything seems to be ok as well.

[Mr.X]

I don't want to create a whole new thread for this but I haven't been keeping up with the news lately and I've searched around but haven't found a definite answer:
Does anyone know for sure whether the P5W DH supports the new 45nm CPUs or not???

[w2richwood]

yes it will for sure with a updated bios 2403 i think it is
Rich

[Mr.X]

yes it will for sure with a updated bios 2403 i think it is
Rich

Confirmed or speculation?

[w2richwood]

yes its confirmed but i cant get the site to come up but yes for sure
Rich

[Brahmzy]

yes it will for sure with a updated bios 2403 i think it is
Rich

With the 333 FSB and low multis I have no desire to run a 45nm CPU on this mobo. That would be a huge disappointment and a big step backwards using this mobo.

[Zeus]

FWIW, i just build a new system with this mobo (my old one :) ) in conjunction with an E4500 cpu.

Every boot up it gave me the microcode loading error and had to press F1 to continue.

This was with bios 1503.

I updated bios to 2302 and the problem is gone.

This is probably something everybody else knows but me but it might be usefull for anyone struggling with the same problem who's just as stupid as i am. :D

The bios appears the same and the board is running fine.

The one thing i don't understand is that i can't find the realtek wireless connection in bios, not under onboard devices, where both gigabyte lan's are.

The wireless conection works fine but why is it not in bios?

[Mr.X]

With the 333 FSB and low multis I have no desire to run a 45nm CPU on this mobo. That would be a huge disappointment and a big step backwards using this mobo.

What do you mean? Big step backwards from what?

[w2richwood]

well it runs the q6600 fairly well at 3.0 the 45nm may use less power so they may run ok
Rich

[Brahmzy]

What do you mean? Big step backwards from what?

The changes in the FSB and multi's in the new 45nm chips have created a difficult issue using the older and even newer mobos. To get an equivelant overclock on the new 45nm chips vs. the current 65nm chips is going to take HIGH FSB - far higher than the P5W will go.

Only the top-end new 45nm quad core with the unlocked multi will be easy to OC.

A good read...

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1234060

[w2richwood]

heads up for the read thanks makes since but it dose support 45nm thats what was ask. i dont even have a quad yet so 45nm is way out there for me
Rich

[Mr.X]

The changes in the FSB and multi's in the new 45nm chips have created a difficult issue using the older and even newer mobos. To get an equivelant overclock on the new 45nm chips vs. the current 65nm chips is going to take HIGH FSB - far higher than the P5W will go.

Only the top-end new 45nm quad core with the unlocked multi will be easy to OC.

A good read...

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1234060

Yeah, but since I have no plans to replace my mobo yet, I'm just happy it supports 45nm.

I'm interested in the Q9450 the most and I believe I won't have any problems OC'ing it to about 3.4Ghz for 24/7 usage.That will be enough for me until the next generation when I'll have to replace my mobo anyway because of the socket change.

[w2richwood]

what rev. board do you have mine is a rev. 103g

[Mr.X]

what rev. board do you have mine is a rev. 103g

Rev 1.xx
I bought it around the time Conroe launched.

[w2richwood]

you can look right by the memory slots if can see inside you case theres 101-1o2-103 and 104g the first ones were 101g reson i ask the 104gs and 103gs overclock a lil better
Rich

[Mr.X]

you can look right by the memory slots if can see inside you case theres 101-1o2-103 and 104g the first ones were 101g reson i ask the 104gs and 103gs overclock a lil better
Rich

It's a rev.102g
Wonder why can't CPU-Z read it.

[w2richwood]

cpu-z dosent read mine eather the 102g mch only goes to 1.75 where as the 103 and 104g goes to 1.85 dont know how much def. that will make as far as overclocking but it may
Rich

[Eastcoasthandle]

cpu-z dosent read mine eather the 102g mch only goes to 1.75 where as the 103 and 104g goes to 1.85 dont know how much def. that will make as far as overclocking but it may
Rich

1.85V MCH may need more then just fan cooling. However, to give you an idea I was able to get a 400 FSB OC for a E6850 @ 3.6 to post PC8500 (although it would auto reboot during XP bootup) at 1.75V. I assume 1.85V would make it more stable but I am not sure about cooling needed. Here take a look:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/E6850/3_60_BIOS_FREQ_1000.jpg
Bios setup

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/E6850/3_60_PC8500-1.jpg

The reason why I post this is because at 1.65V MCH it would not post at all at Dram Frequency of 1000 MHz! However, this 1000MHz dram frequency is not stable.

[w2richwood]

i have my mch set at 1.75 also with a small fan on it feels cool to the touch but havent tryed 1.85
Rich

[Eastcoasthandle]

i have my mch set at 1.75 also with a small fan on it feels cool to the touch but havent tryed 1.85
Rich

I alternate my fan between optimum and performance depending on the ambient temps. Because I got a high performance fan, on performance it really screams for such a small 40mm fan! But I haven't needed to go beyond 1.65V as of yet for MCH at 3.6 (E6850), PC6400 using PC8500 ram.

[w2richwood]

i'll have to see if i'm stable at 1.65 mch

[Eastcoasthandle]

i'll have to see if i'm stable at 1.65 mch

What I've found about OC'ing is that the cooler the NB the better the performance and lower the MCH voltage. I too had a E6700 OC 3.4 and only needed 1.65V for the MCH but I am using Delta FFB0412VHN 40x28mm (http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/delfub.html). This fan creates 15.79 CFM @ 9500 RPM, 41.9 dBA. Although 15.79 CFM doesn't sound like much at 80mm or 120mm, at 40mm it's like a mini tornado IMO (from using my hand). This fan makes all the difference IMO.

[w2richwood]

ok seem's to be stable at 1.65 mch only run orthos for about 30 min. but so far so good i remember bumping it up try for 3.6 but i gave up thanks for the tip's
Rich

[w2richwood]

well it's 8 hr.s + stable and a few games for a while good nuff for me im happy with 3.4 for now hope to go quad after the first and try for 3.0
Rich

[BuBBle.D]

Does this board have any problems with running 4 sticks/4 gigs of ram? If it has, someone please point out what bios is best and what to look after.I just ordered another pair of cellshock 1000 C4s and dunno if it was the right decision.
Thanks in advance.

[mikepaul]

Does this board have any problems with running 4 sticks/4 gigs of ram? If it has, someone please point out what bios is best and what to look after.I just ordered another pair of cellshock 1000 C4s and dunno if it was the right decision.
I had to lower my RAM from 1:1 to 3:4 (top option) otherwise I can't even change the BIOS options without pulling a stick out.

If I had it to do over again, I wouldn't have jumped on even $60 after rebate for something I'll be waiting quite a while to make full use of...

[BuBBle.D]

Geez thats not what i wanted to hear. :( Is it the same with all the latest bioses?

[Gig4moller]

I am running 4GB and 400FSB fine. Only 1.65 vMHC as well. My mems are only PC6400 though.

Latest bios btw.

[BuBBle.D]

Yea thats the info i found googling like crazy that mems run ok at 800mhz but anything above that is nearly impossible.
I guess then ill have to go for 800 3-3-3.

[Mr.X]

I just ordered an additional 2GB as well, I hope I won't have any problems. I'm currently running at 400x8 (1:1) with pretty loose timings.

[w2richwood]

yes up mch and memory volt a lil may help with 4 gb of ram

[mikepaul]

Yea thats the info i found googling like crazy that mems run ok at 800mhz but anything above that is nearly impossible.
I guess then ill have to go for 800 3-3-3.
I didn't find where the extra memory speed was more important than the extra CPU speed, so I stuck with what worked at 410Mhz.

I already run the RAM at the stated max of 2.1V, so I don't really want to play a lot...

[w2richwood]

thats a nice clock on the e6300 btw i wouldnt guve it up eather
Rich

[Brahmzy]

Adding 2 more sticks straight ruined my OC - I tried EVERYTHING and ended up having to drop my OC by 300MHz. Just going x64 Vista alone I lost 100MHz of stability.

[w2richwood]

that dont sound right sounds like somethings not setup right
Rich

[Grendel66]

2403 (ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/2403.zip) now official..

[w2richwood]

have you tryed this any change from the beta ?
Rich

[Khalmyr]

Eastcoasthandle so they fixed the 4:5 problem?

Can you run now at 400FSB : 1000RAM???

That's really good news man.. I'll get some 2 x 2Gb G.SKILL kit tomorrow then..

[UZ7]

Did a file comparison and it seems there is no change from the previous Beta.

[w2richwood]

thank you good to know havent used it yet but heard it works good for new chips
Rich

[Eastcoasthandle]

Eastcoasthandle so they fixed the 4:5 problem?

Can you run now at 400FSB : 1000RAM???

That's really good news man.. I'll get some 2 x 2Gb G.SKILL kit tomorrow then..

No, it's not stable at 1.75V MCH. I also read that the Maximus Formula doesn't either :shrug:

[Khalmyr]

No, it's not stable at 1.75V MCH. I also read that the Maximus Formula doesn't either :shrug:

Right now I'm running my pc at 425 * 8 @ 1.85v vMch

Been like that for a while, I wonder if that's enough to run at least at 400 * 8...

Definitely P5W is getting behind because of silly FSB limitations...

Oh well, it's a fairly old chipset.

Gonna have to get a P5K-SE or something if i want to run my ram at 500mhz+ without spending money on mobo.

Thanks for answering though man :)

[Zeus]

Eastcoasthandle so they fixed the 4:5 problem?

Can you run now at 400FSB : 1000RAM???

That's really good news man.. I'll get some 2 x 2Gb G.SKILL kit tomorrow then..


I'm not sure with 2x2Gb RAM but with 2x 1Gb 400 4:5 is was no problem for me on this board:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/Z3us/screenshots/DDR1000.jpg

I had an old rev with just 1.65Vmch, penciled a bit up to ~1.75V

[Khalmyr]

I'm not sure with 2x2Gb RAM but with 2x 1Gb 400 4:5 is was no problem for me on this board:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/Z3us/screenshots/DDR1000.jpg

I had an old rev with just 1.65Vmch, penciled a bit up to ~1.75V

That's nice.

What did you have to do to get that board to 447fsb? Saw it in your sig 4Ghz E6600.

[w2richwood]

wow thats for sure pushing the limits on this board nice clock
Rich

[Zeus]

That's nice.

What did you have to do to get that board to 447fsb? Saw it in your sig 4Ghz E6600.

It took some tweaking to get there, i had to boot at 9x435 which is barely stable enough to boot into windows, open memset and set trd from 6 to 7.

Ofcourse Vmch was maxed out.

[crazeconnolly]

hi there


can someone please tell me the command to update the bios using AFUDOS.
i have forgot the command. lastbios i updated was 1901.
also. what bios would be the best to update to.

thanks

[d.chatten]

hi there


can someone please tell me the command to update the bios using AFUDOS.
i have forgot the command. lastbios i updated was 1901.
also. what bios would be the best to update to.

thanks

Rename the bios file to P5WDH.ROM and use this command > afudos /ip5wdh.rom /n /pbnc

[w2richwood]

unless your using a later chip like a 1333 fsb i would use 2004
Rich

[psy4fun]

On week ago my machine start BSODs. Yesterday, a last BSOD cause my Windows installation to not boot anymore. After running chkdsk from another Win, 8 GB of corrupted data was found. So, I formated everything and start a new fresh Windows installation.

Now, I come back and Windows did not boot again. Suspecting from a hardware failure, I disconnect everything and began testing each hardware peace, one at time. Quickly I discovery a memory problem: from my 4 memory sticks, only one is working right now. If I install any of other 3 sticks, in any combination possible, the machine even boot.

I didn't have another machine to test theses memory sticks right now. But I'm not believing the memory could be the problem. The memory was running just 1:1 and with 2.1v, i.e., not overclocking, not overvoltaging, nothing which could damage theses sticks.

What could be happening?

[psy4fun]

I forgot to mention one more thing, an important one: the memory is actually configured as AUTO in the BIOS (also, everything else is now configured as AUTO). When posting, the screen show the memory as PC2-5300. But CPU-Z is telling me the memory is running at 400FSB (PC2-6400)!

Completely crazy, isn't?

[Mr.X]

I just put in the additional 2GB I had ordered and I couldn't get it to boot into Windows at 1:1.
I raised the memory voltage to 2.1v (not sure if I should push it further) and mch to 1.65 which is the max available setting with my current Bios.
Had to set it to 4:3 to boot. Any suggestions?

[Eastcoasthandle]

It will be a sad day if its true that Window 7 (or whatever they decide to call it) is release showing that 4 Gigs of ram is not required...per rumor.
However, from what I heard you have to increase the voltage on the ram and increase Mch. However, that depends on what your ram is rated for. I am not sure if 1.65V MCH is enough but maybe someone with a similar setup will show you how.