ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

[John600rr]

A lot of people on boards seem to swap out boards like they were changing socks. I have a question.. When I get my board stable...I have tons of settings, program installs (maybe 15 must have programs for me)..bookmarks (I know these are easy to save) etc. Does everyone do a fresh OS install...What is your method for swapping out a board... Does anyone do a swap with the old install intact...i.e. a Windows Repair install. I would be fascinated because many times for me it is not the cost but the headache of losing a night's sleep having to rebuild the new board to the way I used to have it and the way I liked it.

You can sometimes get away with a repair install when changing mobos. Depends on chipset usually, but it's kinda a crap shoot. I always format and reinstall.

I look at it two ways:

1. Your changing motherboard every 6 months or more: Just do a format and reinstall since you could probably use on anyway.

2. Your changing your motherboard less than every 6 months: You've got the cash to setup a second low cost system and set it up the way you want and then set up your extreme rig and change mobos like mad.

[purecain]

can reach 450 with later revision boards from G0AAY onwards ...... definatly swapping them out... then wait for the x38. i thought about just giving my m8 my board and using his money to get an ip35 but i'm not sure.... any thoughts...?????

[w2richwood]

since this board will use the new 45mn chips lets see how well they work on this board may work better then b3 and go.s work on the board

[kensweep]

A lot of people on boards seem to swap out boards like they were changing socks. I have a question.. When I get my board stable...I have tons of settings, program installs (maybe 15 must have programs for me)..bookmarks (I know these are easy to save) etc. Does everyone do a fresh OS install...What is your method for swapping out a board... Does anyone do a swap with the old install intact...i.e. a Windows Repair install. I would be fascinated because many times for me it is not the cost but the headache of losing a night's sleep having to rebuild the new board to the way I used to have it and the way I liked it.


Mate you raise a very important issue. When one considers the time it takes to configure and install everything, you'd be nuts to want to waste that time again, it can be literally days over time.

Well I have good news for you. Without wanting to sound like a viagra salesman (though PM if you want that - joke) there's a 100% reliable solution.

Acronis True Image with Universal Restore.

As long as you have made a backup using TI of your preferred setup - and if you haven't, you should have on day one anyway - ATI w UR *ALWAYS* lets you restore your Windows image to any PC hardware. Saves taking a chance. Saves reinstalling the 97-odd security updates released since XP SP2 if you use XP's Repair function. Costs money of course.

UR uses Windows' generic drivers to allow you to boot. Then soon as you install the chipset drivers everything's hunky dorey. In my case it takes 10 mins.

With respect to the person who replied to you first, because I appreciate we all use PCs differently, you'd be mad to want to reinstall all your :banana::banana::banana::banana: again. It can take an age. There's no need if you have a clean reliable backup.

Peace.

Now someone help me with my PCI issue please!

[mlbspike]

A nice option ... only downside being the price. $100 isn't outrageous ... I may spring for it, if I wind up doing this more than twice a year, but for now I'll stick with ghost 2003 ... yes, I have to do a repair install ... but I've got decent broadband ... the Windows updates didn't take an excessive amount of time ... Moved a work machine from an old intel MB, with a 3.8 processor, to a P5K deluxe, with a Q6600, with little trouble. More interesting test comes next ... moving from P5WDH (motherboard Silicon Image raid0) to P5K deluxe, raid0. hmmm.
And why not install from scratch ... dozens of programs, with associated keys, serial numbers, and/or passwords ... in my case at least ... a nightmare.

[BulldogPO]

Just flashed in bios 2302 and everything woks just as fine it did with bios 2004.

[nrs250]

Mate you raise a very important issue. When one considers the time it takes to configure and install everything, you'd be nuts to want to waste that time again, it can be literally days over time.

Well I have good news for you. Without wanting to sound like a viagra salesman (though PM if you want that - joke) there's a 100% reliable solution.

Acronis True Image with Universal Restore.

As long as you have made a backup using TI of your preferred setup - and if you haven't, you should have on day one anyway - ATI w UR *ALWAYS* lets you restore your Windows image to any PC hardware. Saves taking a chance. Saves reinstalling the 97-odd security updates released since XP SP2 if you use XP's Repair function. Costs money of course.

UR uses Windows' generic drivers to allow you to boot. Then soon as you install the chipset drivers everything's hunky dorey. In my case it takes 10 mins.

With respect to the person who replied to you first, because I appreciate we all use PCs differently, you'd be mad to want to reinstall all your :banana::banana::banana::banana: again. It can take an age. There's no need if you have a clean reliable backup.

Peace.

Now someone help me with my PCI issue please!




Are you using Acronis True Image 10 ? I have that one.

[WeldZilla]

Hey ken just go back to the device manager hi-lite the device and delete it right there in the dvice manager second icon from the right. then reboot. See if windows detects new hardware and go from there. if it doesn't then don't worry about it. Core temp is a good way to keep an accurate track of your cpu temps. Don't make this harder than it is, you needn't try to add your temp sensors. If you are on air and want better cooling stuff more air to it then you ever dreamed it needed.
I just updated my bios from 2004 to 2206. It works perfectly without any glitches that I can find. guys I recommend that you go to the Asus site down load the bios you want to your system use win-rar or what have you to get to the file then put it in a folder or on your desktop then open the Asus updater and update from the file do not update throught the net. Heavy traffic at the site or even your local provider can make it take too long to get the package. So have it on your system ready and update from File. As for what speed to install it, well I did my install of the bios yesterday while running at my daily clock of 3825mhz. Install it where ever you are stable. On reboot of course that is all gone but you have to go det up your bios again anyway.

Well it is now Sunday afternoon and after playing now for many hours with this new bios (2206) I decided it is much weaker than (2004). 2206 won't let you OC as far as 2004 but, I am planning on getting a 6600GO here soon so I need a newer bios. I went ahead and loaded 2301 and it feels much stronger right out the gate. I am going to spend some time with it and see how it feels. I believe 22xx bios' are going to be remembered as weak. I am running the 2301 at my daily clock of 425 and have been for a couple hours. I have benched and rendered some video at the same time and so far so good.
While I was messing with this new bios today I set a new personal high on 3D03. It's all good.....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/better.jpg
Then when I finished that new high. I set another new personal high
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/05done.jpg

[p5wdh]

anyone have a higher cpu frequency for core2duo e6750 (2.66 default)? if higher than 3.6, what is your manual settings for vdimm, vcore,mcg,ich,etc? thanks in advance

[lawrywild]

after playing now for many hours with this new bios (2206) I decided it is much weaker than (2004). 2206 won't let you OC as far as 2004 but, I am planning on getting a 6600GO here soon so I need a newer bios.

You didn't try my 2004 G0/45nm Edition bios?

[BulldogPO]

anyone have a higher cpu frequency for core2duo e6750 (2.66 default)? if higher than 3.6, what is your manual settings for vdimm, vcore,mcg,ich,etc? thanks in advance

Try 2302.

[MarcusTaz]

2301, there is no 2302, correct me if I am wrong...

[kensweep]

Thank you very much WeldZilla for your suggestion. Sadly it comes back from the dead on reboot/scanning for hardware changes, like some kind of annoying zombie. Maybe there's some way to find out what Windows is reading from the device, because Windows has no idea what it is; it asks me!, if I go to the next step of installing drivers.

Hey nrs250, I use TI 9.1 Workstation with UR, I don't think TI Home 10 offers UR. I used the v10 demo, it's got even more features, some useful.

[WeldZilla]

Hey ken you know when the new bios is loaded and checked and it is time to reboot. Are you going in and telling your bios what your configuration is?

Example: As soon as I reboot the very first thing I have to do is on the main page of the bios is scroll down to IDE Configuration. hit enter and then arrow tab it to Raid and again hit "Enter" so the bios will see my RaidO array and then my OS. I am curious to know after your bios install what you are doing so everything you need to have recognized, is.

So are you leaving something on that does not exist? Is there something plugged that you have not accounted for?

You know lawry I did not not even try it. Hey don't take it hard. I may end up back there. I got to tell you though that this is one decent bios so far as far as my E6600 is concerned.

WZ

[happ]

You didn't try my 2004 G0/45nm Edition bios?

I tried your bios. But I noticed something strange under Vista Ultimate x64. My machine was prime95 stable but not "x264 stable". It means it could run prime95 test for 10 hours, but not x264 video encoding for 15 minutes. Besides this encoding was to slow for 4 cores processor, almost the same speed as my old E6600. Furthermore, Everest CPU tests results were to low, on C2 Duo level, too. During the tests CPU usage was 100% only for two cores. For other two where only around 50%.

I have dual boot machine and all above I noticed under Vista Ultimate 64. Under Windows XP Pro SP2 x32 video encoding and Everest CPU test was normal for Quad core processor. I flash bios to 2301 and now x264 video encoding speed and Everest CPU tests results under x64 Vista are on the XP 32 level. Although I can't oc my quad any better than with your bios, now is at least "x264" stable and use all four cores for encoding and Everest benching.

It seems Asus made new bios for GO stepping processors with a reason.

[mikepaul]

My machine was prime95 stable but not "x264 stable". It means it could run prime95 test for 10 hours, but not x264 video encoding for 15 minutes.
This comes up for other reasons.

My defective power supply limits me to 30% OC now (never updated my sig) because at full OC it will pass Orthos tests galore but die doing video conversion. A working 450W power supply providing maybe 200W tops shouldn't cause random system crashes.

I'm giving up waiting for Amazon to 'find' the PSU I ordered. It appears they mis-priced the item then decided to delay until I cancel rather than just cancel the order themselves. The extra $50 I'll have to pay above what they SAID they'd charge will have to come from future anywhere-but-Amazon orders...

[gwolfman]

http://event.asus.com/mb/45nm/

Finally on the '45nm-list'. Good news.

Bios 0203 must be a typo??

You're right, looks like they updated it.

Digital Home Series
P5W DH Deluxe - Intel 975X/ICH7R - 1333 - BIOS 2302 and later

[gwolfman]

Here is the link for the radiator:
http://www.dangerden.com/store/home.php?cat=84

Here is a link for a guide on modding (all credit to this guy who did it first):

http:/http://forums.legitreviews.com/about6397.html?sid=fca5378a7e9f3c4c564364f4b1834fb f


He used the Black Ice Extreme and felt it was too big. I agree and took his advice and went with the Black Ice Pro from DangerDen. The Extreme is very think and placing it back in the case, while doable, is very tough.

You will need the blue poly-elbows he describes and a dremel to mod the fan housing. Kathi at Danger Den is very helpful and will send you the right stuff if you ask.

Sweet, I'll look into it, thanks!

[miochza]

Those who were looking around for the 2302 BIOS BulldogPO was talking about, and will support 45 nm (http://event.asus.com/mb/45nm/):

2302 Beta BIOS (http://mapesh-online.de/2302.zip)

[Mixman]

I have a P5W DH and a OCZ520ADJ SLI.

I just put my old system into a new case. It did work for 6 mos together. Now in order to get it started I have to flick th power switch on the psu. It then comes on. Once on, it will stay on and work fine, but a few minutes after shutdown and I cannot power the system on without using the PSU power switch and then it comes on automatically and boots up. The green light on the motherboard does stay on. I checked all of the connections for a short and cannot find one.

Is my motherboard bad ?

[gwolfman]

(First off, disregard the CPU is too hot! error)

I'm testing a QX6700 in my motherboard 333FSB x 10 multiplier and had to up the voltage in the BIOS to 4.325V but runs @ ~4.16V. When I ran OOCT with the voltage set lower, it would error out right about when the vCore seemed to drop to 1.35. Does the following image illustrate what is known as vdroop?
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What does the following picture represent with the 12v going up and down like that?
64252

[~aoe~]

I have a P5W DH and a OCZ520ADJ SLI.

I just put my old system into a new case. It did work for 6 mos together. Now in order to get it started I have to flick th power switch on the psu. It then comes on. Once on, it will stay on and work fine, but a few minutes after shutdown and I cannot power the system on without using the PSU power switch and then it comes on automatically and boots up. The green light on the motherboard does stay on. I checked all of the connections for a short and cannot find one.

Is my motherboard bad ?
I recently had a strange problem with another motherboard. Whilst not the same problem, it was sort of similar.

After changing the CPU and chipset heatsinks on my 2nd system (Opteron 170 on A8N32-SLi), I tried to increase my OC by upping the voltages. I wasn't able to get the system stable, so dropped back to the previous OC. However, after these changes, the PC was unable to fully switch off. Windows would fully close down, but the fans would just keep spinning until I switched off the PSU. The same problem occurred when trying to Restart (would hang in BIOS with all fans spinning).

After trying to increase the OC again, I had a boot failure that reset the BIOS to defaults. After this, the problem disappeared. Even after reapplying the OC settings in BIOS, the problem was gone.

Long story, but I think it was something in BIOS that was causing this problem, and by resetting to defaults, it seems to have fixed it. May be worth trying.

[BulldogPO]

Seems like this 2302 beta is best bios so far, at least for me.
I can now drive my Q6600@3.2GHz with 1.375Vcore, and with old bios (2004) it required 1.475V to be 100% stable.

[Nitrium]

I have a P5W DH and a OCZ520ADJ SLI.

I just put my old system into a new case. It did work for 6 mos together. Now in order to get it started I have to flick th power switch on the psu. It then comes on. Once on, it will stay on and work fine, but a few minutes after shutdown and I cannot power the system on without using the PSU power switch and then it comes on automatically and boots up. The green light on the motherboard does stay on. I checked all of the connections for a short and cannot find one.

Is my motherboard bad ?

I've started to have the same problem two weeks ago, but it doesn't happens always. I'm starting to think that the motherboard is faulty. I've already checked all connections too and didn't find any problem. :(

[Mixman]

I recently had a strange problem with another motherboard. Whilst not the same problem, it was sort of similar.

After changing the CPU and chipset heatsinks on my 2nd system (Opteron 170 on A8N32-SLi), I tried to increase my OC by upping the voltages. I wasn't able to get the system stable, so dropped back to the previous OC. However, after these changes, the PC was unable to fully switch off. Windows would fully close down, but the fans would just keep spinning until I switched off the PSU. The same problem occurred when trying to Restart (would hang in BIOS with all fans spinning).

After trying to increase the OC again, I had a boot failure that reset the BIOS to defaults. After this, the problem disappeared. Even after reapplying the OC settings in BIOS, the problem was gone.

Long story, but I think it was something in BIOS that was causing this problem, and by resetting to defaults, it seems to have fixed it. May be worth trying.

Tried a total cmos reset and am using default settings. The system still will not start up without me "jumpstarting" the psu. I bumped into another P5W DH owner who is having similar problems. Hmmm.....

At first I was leaning at a psu solution, but once I get the system jumpstarted, it works fine. I can even overclock by a good amount. I think if the psu was faulty, I would be able to do that. I am just dreading spending the money to get another board right now.

[lawrywild]

Seems like this 2302 beta is best bios so far, at least for me.
I can now drive my Q6600@3.2GHz with 1.375Vcore, and with old bios (2004) it required 1.475V to be 100% stable.

I can't see how that is true really. This usually appears to be the case when people do brief testing but once they have fully used the bios and stress tested there's little if any improvement at all. Certainly not a delta of 0.1v..

[w2richwood]

Tried a total cmos reset and am using default settings. The system still will not start up without me "jumpstarting" the psu. I bumped into another P5W DH owner who is having similar problems. Hmmm.....

At first I was leaning at a psu solution, but once I get the system jumpstarted, it works fine. I can even overclock by a good amount. I think if the psu was faulty, I would be able to do that. I am just dreading spending the money to get another board right now.

try unhooking any usb device and in bios under power power off after power off to off hope this helps
Rich

[5OH]

I updated to the 2302 BIOS but for some reason the C1 is set to AUTO and I can't disable. Anyone else having this problem?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

[Mixman]

If I have to replace this board, I am wondering should I get another P5W DH or just get a cheap P35 board. This is for my wifes system.

[w2richwood]

i dont think its the board eather bios setting or usb device like the dh remote i could be wrong but i dont think so
Rich

[~aoe~]

I see that some people are experiencing reduced OCs with quad core and 4GB memory installed. I was curious to know if this problem was only experienced by those with all 4 memory slots filled (4 x 1GB) or whether it also affects 2 x 2GB configurations.

I have just ordered my Q6600 G0 together with the new x38 from Gigabyte (supposedly available in UK on 14th September - Friday - maybe...) and was wondering whether to get some additional memory and try Vista :confused:

Apologies if this question is not directly related to the P5W DH.

BTW not giving up on this board yet - still very happy with the performance with my current E6600, and will keep it running also :)

[Mixman]

i dont think its the board eather bios setting or usb device like the dh remote i could be wrong but i dont think so
Rich


Yeah I thought about the DH Remote too, that's why I took it out of the usb, and removed the program, just in case.

[GLENBOY]

been running beta 2302 bios all night on my early revision p5w board , and it seems very stable as good as 2004 and 2103 so far and hasn't had the annoying pci modem/audio controller found new hardware bug and the vcore resetting to auto bug that the 2200s bioses had not yet anyway .thumbs up from me for the 2302 bios

scratch the above its acting the same as the 2200 bioses = vcore resets to default and found pci modem /audio controller i wonder if its only specific to the early revision boards 2004 and 2103 work flawlessly but the 2200 bioses and this one all have the same quirks but when running its ok but on some reboots the vcore resets to auto or if you go in bios goes on auto WEIRD

[WeldZilla]

Hey 50H I loaeded the 2302 just to check this for you and when I went into the bios to have a look it was disabled. Not sure why yours won't disable.
I then went back to the 2301 bios as I am not finished with it yet.
Why are you so wound up about being able to disable the C1 setting in the cpu config page of the bios. As far as stability or speed goes it changes nothing.
The only thing it does is make Core temp and cpuz read your correct multiplier. right now with C1 enabled core temp and cpuz think I am using the 6x multi instead of the 9x.
As soon as you put any load on they will read right.
As I said as far as actual performance goes its the same.
You sure should be able to disable it tho'

WZ

[BulldogPO]

BTW, my board is version 1.04G

[gwolfman]

(First off, disregard the CPU is too hot! error)

I'm testing a QX6700 in my motherboard 333FSB x 10 multiplier and had to up the voltage in the BIOS to 4.325V but runs @ ~4.16V. When I ran OOCT with the voltage set lower, it would error out right about when the vCore seemed to drop to 1.35. Does the following image illustrate what is known as vdroop?
64251



What does the following picture represent with the 12v going up and down like that?
64252

Looks like I got passed up. Anyone?

[WeldZilla]

As far as the 12 volt rail is concerned it is only a 5/100ths of a volt variance.
It never falls below 12 so don't read anything into it that is not there cuz there is nothing there that is wrong. As a matter of fact that is excellent. There is that what you were fishing for? a rave about your 12V rail.
Just what are your core temps. If they are fine turn up the volts.
My 6600 has been running at 1.65 for a year now. Sometimes a little less sometimes more. I have good cooling though. Your v-droop is about normal also. Don't get too caught up in all the precise measuring crap and turn up the volts using your core temps as your tattletale when to stop. Put more fans on the memory and NB and stuff more air in there if necessary.
People's fear of voltage just cracks me up.

WZ

[mikepaul]

What's the latest opinion here on the Antec Neo HE550 power supply on a P5W DH?

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/other/display/atx-psu7.html says it's great if you get the A4 revision, but I still see bad things said recently about it without notes about the version number.

It'd be $55 after rebate if I order from NewEgg today or tomorrow, but I'd like some other input before I jump on it.

Since they don't like the Zalman I have on order from Amazon, I think I'll cancel that even if I don't get this one cheap...

[WeldZilla]

Well after running with the 2301 and 2302 bios' for a few days I decided that I really don't like either!! I believe the 2301 is just a bit stronger. So I put afudos 2.11 on a floppy and my favorite 2004bios on and rebooted just like clock work everything went smooth as silk. Uh hey I'm WeldZilla everything always goes that way for me!! At the prompt I typed in
afudos/iP5WDH.rom and hit enter and it was off to the bios races 10%,17%,28%, 39%, 48%, 59%, 67% and then the floppy stopped it wait awhile and then came the post.... FAILED!! options- abort,retry, fall on your sword!!
So this is when you need to stay cool. I went to one of my other systems
downloaded afudos and snagged an older bios 1901 put it all on a fresh new floppy and returned to my machine. I pulled the bad floppy and put in the fresh one. Got the prompt and started again. This time the floppy was a good one and I flashed back to 1901. When I got my system back up I used Asus update and loaded up the 2004 bios from a file on my system. I went back through the bios setting up my system and i am happy to report that I am running at 425 fsb @ 3825 with a whole lot more authority tha either the 2301 or the 2302 could provide my system with. Lawry I will try yours soon.
Why did this work out in the end so well? Hey I am WeldZilla and that's the way it is!!:yepp:


WZ

[gwolfman]

...As a matter of fact that is excellent. There is that what you were fishing for?
...
Just what are your core temps?

I wasn't looking for a "rave" about my voltages, I was just curious as to if it were bad enough where I should try the vdroop mod. Thanks for the reply though. :)

Here's my temps at idle:
64333

And here at load with OCCT:
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And temps 1 minute after finishing 99.5% load:
64335

What do you think of my core temps?
-GWolfman

[cuke2u]

What's the latest opinion here on the Antec Neo HE550 power supply on a P5W DH?

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/other/display/atx-psu7.html says it's great if you get the A4 revision, but I still see bad things said recently about it without notes about the version number.

It'd be $55 after rebate if I order from NewEgg today or tomorrow, but I'd like some other input before I jump on it.

Since they don't like the Zalman I have on order from Amazon, I think I'll cancel that even if I don't get this one cheap...

Hi, it is a very good PSU, I've been running one now for a couple of years with different motherboards and my XT1900XT-X. Firstly a A8R32-MVP, then a P5W DH and now my P5B Premium Vista Edition, and had no issues whatsoever. I will admit there might have been build issues with some early versions however people who criticise it haven't a clue what they are talking about because it actually is a Antec badged Seasonic, see here http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/370 for proof....
ChrisC

[Ragdd]

I had a Antec True Power 380 watt and Antec Neopower 480 watt in the past.

My hardware vendor wasn't keen on Antec psu's because they have a lot of RMA's on those psu's.

They advised me Fortron psu's and I bought a Fortron Epsilon 800 watt.
Also installed several Fortron Epsilon's in computerss of friends (Epsilon 600, 700 & 800 watt). And some Fortron Blue Storm 500 watt in other people's computers.

I must say that those Fotron psu are running more stable, cooler and more quieter dan those Antec psu's.

Only Fortron for me. :clap:

[WeldZilla]

Well ok you weren't looking for a rave. You still got one. Looking at those temps well the 69 69 64 64 I would ay your right at the upper end of your possible OC as you want to stay out of the 70's. How about a nice clear pic of your case from the left side then another of the left side with the cover off.
Maybe we can get you more cooling with little work or money involved and maybe not. You might just be as far as your type of cooling will go.
So post up the pics and let's have a look. Oh by the way that is a nice 12V. rail on your psu.

Hey would you put Core Temp on your machine and see what it says your temps are?
http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/

WZ

[mikepaul]

Hi, it is a very good PSU, I've been running one now for a couple of years with different motherboards and my XT1900XT-X. Firstly a A8R32-MVP, then a P5W DH and now my P5B Premium Vista Edition, and had no issues whatsoever. I will admit there might have been build issues with some early versions however people who criticise it haven't a clue what they are talking about because it actually is a Antec badged Seasonic, see here http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/370 for proof....
ChrisC
Good. I asked Antec Support and they said if I got an old A3.1 it'd have to be broken before they'd replace it, but I'll take my chances.

Thanks...

[5OH]

I updated to the 2302 BIOS but for some reason the C1 is set to AUTO and I can't disable. Anyone else having this problem?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

[gwolfman]

Well ok you weren't looking for a rave. You still got one. Looking at those temps well the 69 69 64 64 I would ay your right at the upper end of your possible OC as you want to stay out of the 70's. How about a nice clear pic of your case from the left side then another of the left side with the cover off.
Maybe we can get you more cooling with little work or money involved and maybe not. You might just be as far as your type of cooling will go.
So post up the pics and let's have a look. Oh by the way that is a nice 12V. rail on your psu.

Hey would you put Core Temp on your machine and see what it says your temps are?
http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/

WZ
Here you go:
64351

Never used this app before (thought I've read some about it). Why are the temps different than speedfan and/or how does this work?

[astaris]

Here you go:
64351

Never used this app before (thought I've read some about it). Why are the temps different than speedfan and/or how does this work?
Because Speedfan assumes a Tj_max of 85 C, 15 degrees less than coretemp. Both programs read the relative temp from the DTS.

[sesdave]

Well after running with the 2301 and 2302 bios' for a few days I decided that I really don't like either!! I believe the 2301 is just a bit stronger. So I put afudos 2.11 on a floppy and my favorite 2004bios on and rebooted just like clock work everything went smooth as silk. Uh hey I'm WeldZilla everything always goes that way for me!! At the prompt I typed in
afudos/iP5WDH.rom and hit enter and it was off to the bios races 10%,17%,28%, 39%, 48%, 59%, 67% and then the floppy stopped it wait awhile and then came the post.... FAILED!! options- abort,retry, fall on your sword!!
So this is when you need to stay cool. I went to one of my other systems
downloaded afudos and snagged an older bios 1901 put it all on a fresh new floppy and returned to my machine. I pulled the bad floppy and put in the fresh one. Got the prompt and started again. This time the floppy was a good one and I flashed back to 1901. When I got my system back up I used Asus update and loaded up the 2004 bios from a file on my system. I went back through the bios setting up my system and i am happy to report that I am running at 425 fsb @ 3825 with a whole lot more authority tha either the 2301 or the 2302 could provide my system with. Lawry I will try yours soon.
Why did this work out in the end so well? Hey I am WeldZilla and that's the way it is!!:yepp:


WZ

Way to go - I do so enjoy coming back and reading the posts on this thread since I upgraded to the P5K Premium. The MB may be better than the P5W but the threads aren't half as much fun!

On another note for all you Vista X64 users you may find this utility useful to aid in quick configuring - http://www.tweakvista.com/tweakvistautility/

[Kynoo]

Hi, im french so sorry for my english



I have an P5W Dh Deluxe with a bios id 2004.

A fresh install of Vista 64 Ultimate box version.

And 4Gb ( 4x1Gb) of G-Skill 5400U.

I installed the OS with just 2Gb, install ok.
After finish it and put drivers, i try to put all my ram...


With 3Gb, it's fine.

With 4Gb ... my pc reboot .... i never go to windows.

I tested with e "no error" mode, and windows hang load and reboot at crcdisk file.



I tried the Kb indicate in this forum without issue..

I tested some bios rules without issue too.

I verify all update from Microsoft... no issue.

I look on Asustek forum, no issue too.



So ... what we can do ?

My hardware :

E6600
4Gb of G-Skill 5400U ( 4x1Go )
P5W Dh Deluxe with 2301 Bios ( memory remap on )
Crossfire of two X1950Pro512
Sound card X-Fi Fatal1ty
4DD Sata

Any help or solutions ? :)

[mikepaul]

With 3Gb, it's fine.

With 4Gb ... my pc reboot .... i never go to windows.

Did it work with 3GB no matter which 3 sticks you had in?

Keep swapping them around until you've booted at 2GB using each combination of sticks once. That'd be 6 combinations, I think: 1-2, 1-3, 1-4, 2-3, 2-4, 3-4...

[Kynoo]

Did it work with 3GB no matter which 3 sticks you had in?

Keep swapping them around until you've booted at 2GB using each combination of sticks once. That'd be 6 combinations, I think: 1-2, 1-3, 1-4, 2-3, 2-4, 3-4...

Yhere is the test i do before :

Boot ok, 1Go per bank :

1/2/4
1/2/3
2/3/4
1/3/4

With any stick.

The only matter is when i have the four stick, regardless of how stick i use.
:shrug:

[sesdave]

Hi, im french so sorry for my english



I have an P5W Dh Deluxe with a bios id 2004.

A fresh install of Vista 64 Ultimate box version.

And 4Gb ( 4x1Gb) of G-Skill 5400U.

I installed the OS with just 2Gb, install ok.
After finish it and put drivers, i try to put all my ram...


With 3Gb, it's fine.

With 4Gb ... my pc reboot .... i never go to windows.

Any help or solutions ? :)

Your memory is only rated 667 - 4x1GB puts more strain on the memory controller and the MB. You probably need higher MCH and looser timings with 4x1GB. What are all your current BIOS settings ,volts, memory timings etc and what are you running your CPU at. Are you trying to run memory 1:1 or higher - if so you really want better out of the box spec memory like Crucial 8500C5 which is great o/c memory at a very cheap price.

[Kynoo]

Your memory is only rated 667 - 4x1GB puts more strain on the memory controller and the MB. You probably need higher MCH and looser timings with 4x1GB. What are all your current BIOS settings ,volts, memory timings etc and what are you running your CPU at. Are you trying to run memory 1:1 or higher - if so you really want better out of the box spec memory like Crucial 8500C5 which is great o/c memory at a very cheap price.

I dont try/want to overclock, i juste want to have all my ram under Vista :)

Voltage : Auto and i test from 1.8 to 2v without issue.

latency : Manual from 4/4/4/12 to 5/5/5/15 without issue ( my ram is a 4/4/4/12 )

Cpu : Stock fsb and voltage.

Ram FSB : 667

[sesdave]

I dont try/want to overclock, i juste want to have all my ram under Vista :)

Voltage : Auto and i test from 1.8 to 2v without issue.

latency : Manual from 4/4/4/12 to 5/5/5/15 without issue ( my ram is a 4/4/4/12 )

Cpu : Stock fsb and voltage.

Ram FSB : 667

I was running 4x1GB under Vista x64 on the P5W no problem - it likes memory best at 1:1 but I do rember I posted about a Vista 4GB bug for which there is a patch..I will dig it up and repost.

Shame not to o/c an E6600! If you are running stock the CPU will only be 266 x9 = 2.4 which means you memory is only running DDR532 which is underutilised. You want to run the CPU with FSB =333 (333x9=3.0) to get the memory running at rated speed 1:1. An e6600 should do that no problem on stock volts ot there about. It is always best to maually set the BIOS settings - then you can fiddle to get it running stable with confidence. In the meantiime Set A1 to maunual and set the following:

CPU Freq=333
DRAM freq=667
Perf Mode = Standard
PCI express=100
PCI Clock=33.3

Memory volts= 1.9 or 2.0
CPU vcore=1.375 - 1.4v
FSB=1.3
MCH=1.55
ICH=1.2

Set your memory to 4,4,4,12,4 and disable both DRAM ECC,DRAM Throttling and and Hiperpath. leave memory remap enabled.

Under CPU settings disable all PICE ..

Under HW monitor disable all q fan functions.

This will give you a very mild o/c to 3.0 amd much better perforamce. Use the same settings even if you want to run with CPU frequency at 266 and lower memory. Here a link to a guide for expamles of the settings if confused http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?p=4808903#post4808903.

[sesdave]

Here is a link to my previous post with links to Microsoft Hotfix and background details re this known 4GB memory issue.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2291275&postcount=22

Read the latest posts on this thread as things may have moved on since I posted - there may be a later hotfix! I never needed it as when I switched to crucial ballistix and a P5K MB I never encountered any issues.

[DrSlump]

Hi to all. I'm italian so, sorry if i make some mistakes writing in english language.
I wish to submit a problem:
does this mainboard have some problems running 4Gb or more, when all four memory slots are used?
Now i use a 2Gb gskill dual channel memory kit, HZ series, they run@800Mhz, with 4-4-4-12 timings.
If i buy another 2Gb kit of these, will the mainboard support them???
Is it true that the 975x supports only 667Mhz bus when all memory slots are used??

Thanx

[lawrywild]

I'm running 4x1GB with a Q6600 @ 3Ghz with the ram at 834Mhz 4-4-3-4 on 2.1v so no, it's not limited to 667Mhz; atleast for me it isn't. (Auto vMCH too)

[sesdave]

I'm running 4x1GB with a Q6600 @ 3Ghz with the ram at 834Mhz 4-4-3-4 on 2.1v so no, it's not limited to 667Mhz; atleast for me it isn't. (Auto vMCH too)

But you do have the best memory around - Crucial Ballistix 8500C5! recommend them for any MB - best price in the UK http://misco.co.uk/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=281078&CatId=784

[lawrywild]

PC2-5300 actually ;)

The 8500 did cost quite a bit more when I bought, the Misco deal is just amazing though.

[sniggle]

Hey guys, I have a weird quirk with my workstation here. I have 2x1GB of G-Skill PC6400 5-5-5-15 (non HZ) ram. I cannot get the sticks to pass test 5 of memtest when they're both in the board. The weird thing is that test 5 doesn't even show errors. The walltime and pass percentage just stop incrementing even though the little + sign is still blinking in the top left. However, if I run the sticks individually they both pass test 5 multiple times.

Is this bad ram or what? I've tried raising the voltages and loosening the timings with no fix. I've never seen memtest just lock up like that, even though its UI is still updating.

I've tried bios 1707 and 2004. The ram is currently running at its rated speed of 400mhz. At these settings I am orthos stable for hours (small FFT, so not really stressing the ram).

EDIT: running the ram at 3/4 (300mhz) and it's passing test 5 multiple times. I think this ram is just sorta crappy. I might RMA it.

[DrSlump]

I'm running 4x1GB with a Q6600 @ 3Ghz with the ram at 834Mhz 4-4-3-4 on 2.1v so no, it's not limited to 667Mhz; atleast for me it isn't. (Auto vMCH too)

Nice!
These are the memory i got: F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ (1GB x 2)

I olso would upgrade my e6600 with a q6600 g0 and another pair of that rams :)

but i would like to keep the system at least @3Ghz..

[sesdave]

PC2-5300 actually ;)

The 8500 did cost quite a bit more when I bought, the Misco deal is just amazing though.

Lawrywild - apologies I thought you had these. Sell yours and get these while they are going at this price - they were £10 cheaper but are obviously popular. On 4x1GB I can run them 4,4,4,12 upto about 1066 or 5,5,5,15 upto 1200 with little or no volt increase. They are worth the investment cos DDR3 is way overpriced and DDR2 will be around for at least a couple more years.

[sesdave]

Hey guys, I have a weird quirk with my workstation here. I have 2x1GB of G-Skill PC6400 5-5-5-15 (non HZ) ram. I cannot get the sticks to pass test 5 of memtest when they're both in the board. The weird thing is that test 5 doesn't even show errors. The walltime and pass percentage just stop incrementing even though the little + sign is still blinking in the top left. However, if I run the sticks individually they both pass test 5 multiple times.

Is this bad ram or what? I've tried raising the voltages and loosening the timings with no fix. I've never seen memtest just lock up like that, even though its UI is still updating.

I've tried bios 1707 and 2004. The ram is currently running at its rated speed of 400mhz. At these settings I am orthos stable for hours (small FFT, so not really stressing the ram).

EDIT: running the ram at 3/4 (300mhz) and it's passing test 5 multiple times. I think this ram is just sorta crappy. I might RMA it.

If you bought as a dual pair and it wont pass memtest at rated speed RMA it.

[lawrywild]

Lawrywild - apologies I thought you had these. Sell yours and get these while they are going at this price - they were £10 cheaper but are obviously popular. On 4x1GB I can run them 4,4,4,12 upto about 1066 or 5,5,5,15 upto 1200 with little or no volt increase. They are worth the investment cos DDR3 is way overpriced and DDR2 will be around for at least a couple more years.

Why :confused: The ram is no the limiting factor, the 975x is. Plus, I know these ram are capable of over 1000MHz at 4-4-3-4 on only like 2.2v so no need. I'm happy that these just work fine and don't error :) :)

[lawrywild]

Hey guys, I have a weird quirk with my workstation here. I have 2x1GB of G-Skill PC6400 5-5-5-15 (non HZ) ram. I cannot get the sticks to pass test 5 of memtest when they're both in the board. The weird thing is that test 5 doesn't even show errors. The walltime and pass percentage just stop incrementing even though the little + sign is still blinking in the top left. However, if I run the sticks individually they both pass test 5 multiple times.

Is this bad ram or what? I've tried raising the voltages and loosening the timings with no fix. I've never seen memtest just lock up like that, even though its UI is still updating.

I've tried bios 1707 and 2004. The ram is currently running at its rated speed of 400mhz. At these settings I am orthos stable for hours (small FFT, so not really stressing the ram).

EDIT: running the ram at 3/4 (300mhz) and it's passing test 5 multiple times. I think this ram is just sorta crappy. I might RMA it.

This is what happens when the motherboard is what's causing the failure, not the memory. You have simply pushed the memory controller too far. 975x is not good at clicking memory very high. I get this exact 'freeze' after aboout 925MHz DDR2 or so, my board is not a good one for memory clocking, some can go 1100Mhz but it's very rare. 1000MHz MAX seems about normal though.

[sesdave]

Why :confused: The ram is no the limiting factor, the 975x is. Plus, I know these ram are capable of over 1000MHz at 4-4-3-4 on only like 2.2v so no need. I'm happy that these just work fine and don't error :) :)

Fair point - I forgot I don't have the 975x now. So we are both happy with the ballistix we got.!

[sniggle]

This is what happens when the motherboard is what's causing the failure, not the memory. You have simply pushed the memory controller too far. 975x is not good at clicking memory very high. I get this exact 'freeze' after aboout 925MHz DDR2 or so, my board is not a good one for memory clocking, some can go 1100Mhz but it's very rare. 1000MHz MAX seems about normal though.

I think you're right. I tried my known good ram and the same thing happened. Once I raised the NB voltage a notch it worked fine. Unfortunately, I ended up buying some replacement ram anyway. Not sure whether I should go for 4GB or just replace it.

[palito]

i am Having this problem for a couple of days now,Azureus Locks up my Router

when this happens i am not able to surf nor do torrent Downloads

only on a system restart things get back to normal (note Router is ok,when i restart the the computer i am able to surf,i dont restart the router at all)

i think this is something to do with the Marvell Yukon Drivers,i am using the Drivers Given the Mobo CD

this matter is driving me nuts,pls help me out

[w2richwood]

try the update drivers from the asus web site
Rich

[DAK1640]

What BIOS for Q6600 ? I am still running 1503 lol...

[sesdave]

I think you're right. I tried my known good ram and the same thing happened. Once I raised the NB voltage a notch it worked fine. Unfortunately, I ended up buying some replacement ram anyway. Not sure whether I should go for 4GB or just replace it.

Another option would be to get a P5K premium MB which is a lot more flexible with memory. I previously had Corsair XMS 6400 (v2.1 Promos chips) which I couldnt get to o/c above its rated DDR800 on the P5W but happily ran near 1000 on the P5K. It would probably let you get a better o/c all round with you current CPU and memory and better position you for the penryn. Some will say wait for the P38 but a P5K will last you a few years with cheap DDR2 memory compared with very expensive DDR3 on a P38 MB.

[palito]

everytime I open a program, it hangs for a few seconds before opening.

u know that instant Response is not there,i though this was a HDD prb So Fragmented,prob still remains :mad:

any fix ?

[holwill]

Picked up a Q6600 GO L724A828 at my local pc shop today, loaded up Lawry's 2004 bios and it is sat @333fsb 3.0ghz @stock volts. Well done mate nice work :clap: .
Would be nice to get this up to 3.6ghz as per my last E6600 but this may not be possible. One thing I am seeing is a differance of temps at idle between core1/2 (22,23)and 3/4(28,28) not sure if this is norm and the differance remains the same maybe upto 8c under load!

[X7007]

Everyone Listen.

I need you to check something.

All of you who has VISTA 32bit or 64bit , Ultimate or Premium.

When you do not overclock everything is fine, but when overclocking there is some weird black screen before login. you must have seen it, it only takes 1sec, but when it happens you only see the Password box and the Language tab.

i hope you know what i am talking about.

it happens when i go higher than 270 FSB or something , or i go high on my ram.

2GB Cellshock (2X1024) DDR II - PC6400 4-4-4-12 (D9GMH) 800MHz

How much can i go with them with how much Voltage? can i do them 4-4-4-12 800 mhz 2.20 ? thats what it says on the sticker.

but it seem that i have problems, i just dunno why.

[WeldZilla]

Hey sesdave, first you say you forgot you don't own a 975X board anymore than you spend every other post tryuing top sell P5K's. Why don't you do this thread a favor and take you and your thread crappin P5K ass outta here . You were never smart enough or good enough for the P5WDH so take a f=ing hike and take your P5K with you...Dilweed son-of-a-biatch.

WZ

[scaramonga]

Feel the love :rolleyes: :D

[X7007]

Cant run more than 340FSB, it always error in superPI and prime.

i tried all voltages, all everything, CPU and Memory are good, the only thing is the chipset, whats his problem, it could run before on 350 at least.

Could the Beta bios make errors on Gold Memory test ? same error over and over.

i am using the 2302, should i go back to 2004?

i am losing my mind, no one helps.

[DrSlump]

Cant run more than 340FSB, it always error in superPI and prime.

i tried all voltages, all everything, CPU and Memory are good, the only thing is the chipset, whats his problem, it could run before on 350 at least.

Could the Beta bios make errors on Gold Memory test ? same error over and over.

i am using the 2302, should i go back to 2004?

i am losing my mind, no one helps.

Do you get the errors using the same bios setting that you used in the past bios versions?
If the settings are the same and they was good for the past bios versions, you could, according to me:
a) Try to use an older bios version, with wich the settings worked
b) If the settings does not work anymore, you could try to use another psu unit... that's joust an idea.

[holwill]

Cant run more than 340FSB, it always error in superPI and prime.

i tried all voltages, all everything, CPU and Memory are good, the only thing is the chipset, whats his problem, it could run before on 350 at least.

Could the Beta bios make errors on Gold Memory test ? same error over and over.

i am using the 2302, should i go back to 2004?

i am losing my mind, no one helps.

Well all i can say is picked up my q6600 go yesterday and loaded up Lawry's 2004Go bios and it would boot at 3.0ghz@stock vcore but failed P95 within minutes. Upped the vcore to1.30v and it failed on core3 @8.53hrs and core 4 @8.59hrs so I tried 355fsb and up to 1.4vcore and it would fail in minutes. Now prior to this my E6600 was stable @3.6 400fsb@1.475vcore so I guess it could just be the boards and Quad cores don't mix well. Need to do some more testing before I write it off and start looking elsewhere, shame as I love this boards stability with dual cores!

[X7007]

Ye it worked perfectly with no error in Gold Memory, this error is weird, its just the same error over and over, but prime and OCCT doest show anything.
but before the beta bios there were no errors for 8 hr at least.

No , i didnt get the errors using the same settings.

[X7007]

Well all i can say is picked up my q6600 go yesterday and loaded up Lawry's 2004Go bios and it would boot at 3.0ghz@stock vcore but failed P95 within minutes. Upped the vcore to1.30v and it failed on core3 @8.53hrs and core 4 @8.59hrs so I tried 355fsb and up to 1.4vcore and it would fail in minutes. Now prior to this my E6600 was stable @3.6 400fsb@1.475vcore so I guess it could just be the boards and Quad cores don't mix well. Need to do some more testing before I write it off and start looking elsewhere, shame as I love this boards stability with dual cores!

Thank god, i thought everyone are running Stock Voltage, thats impossible, they dont do full tests and say its stable, what happend to you happend to me too, and i always thought everyone always has better cpus for overclock.

Did you test the BLEND test ? i will revert to 2004 bios.

[lawrywild]

??? 3.0GHz on stock volts here, ran 8 Hours SmallFFT P95 on all 4 cores. Perfectly stable ever since.

You got really unlucky if the cpu doesn't do 3Ghz on stock volts, most likely the motherboard holding you back.. then again, you have a B3 and holwill and I have G0's.

[DrSlump]

??? 3.0GHz on stock volts here, ran 8 Hours SmallFFT P95 on all 4 cores. Perfectly stable ever since.

You got really unlucky if the cpu doesn't do 3Ghz on stock volts, most likely the motherboard holding you back.. then again, you have a B3 and holwill and I have G0's.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but i read that holwill has a G0 stepping, while 7007 has
a B3 stepping.
But, 3Ghz, should be an easy target to reach with the core technology, isn't it?
I've readen that the bios 2301 changes some timings settings to a value recommended by intel. Try using that version, maybe you will obtain better results.. i hope.

Thats my doubt: may a psu a limiting factor for cpu overclocking? It would be interesting if holwill could try another psu to push further with the overclocking... or not? :)

[lawrywild]

Correct me if i'm wrong, but i read that holwill has a G0 stepping, while 7007 has
a B3 stepping.

Ya.. I believe that is what I said :confused:


But, 3Ghz, should be an easy target to reach with the core technology, isn't it?
I've readen that the bios 2301 changes some timings settings to a value recommended by intel. Try using that version, maybe you will obtain better results.. i hope.

Thats my doubt: may a psu a limiting factor for cpu overclocking? It would be interesting if holwill could try another psu to push further with the overclocking... or not? :)

975x is not good for clocking quad cores, period.

[sesdave]

Hey sesdave, first you say you forgot you don't own a 975X board anymore than you spend every other post tryuing top sell P5K's. Why don't you do this thread a favor and take you and your thread crappin P5K ass outta here . You were never smart enough or good enough for the P5WDH so take a f=ing hike and take your P5K with you...Dilweed son-of-a-biatch.

WZ

I love U too! But as you so politely point out I no longer have my P5W that I had so much fun with so I will move onto relevant threads. Maybe see you there in the future.

[DrSlump]

Ya.. I believe that is what I said :confused:



975x is not good for clocking quad cores, period.

I see, so the difference about you and holwill is only the bad luck?
I'm a bit scared about changing my e6600 with a q6600... i would not go under 3Ghz overclocking.

[holwill]

I see, so the difference about you and holwill is only the bad luck?
I'm a bit scared about changing my e6600 with a q6600... i would not go under 3Ghz overclocking.

No bad luck mate, my vid is 1.2625 and if i need to run 1.30-1.3125 to be stable @3.00ghz for 12hrs+ P95 then no problem, both my e6600 needed more than that @3.0ghz. Now regarding bios's I will stay with lawry's till I hear that the official ones will allow me to disable onboard audio. Overclocking wise it would be nice to get to 3.6 again, but probably this board will not allow that in which case I will move onto a P5K-Deluxe or X38 if the price is right. As it stands performance wise I do not feel any differance really as to be expected .I still need to do some more testing which should not take that long as after having this board for over a year I pretty much know its quirks. But as it stands this is a cracking board for Dual Core Cpu's which is what I originally brought it for and will be remembered as one of the most stable boards I have owned :) .

[pee4]

I'M BACK !!!

Back to E6600 + P5WDH. Arhhh. Tranquility at last.

A three week encounter with a Q6600 + P5K-E/Wifi + Crucial 6400C4 drove me nuts. More BSOD's than any P5WDH owner could ever imagine.

I've sold that stuff and will go Q6600 + X38 + Corsair as soon as X38 is available.

[lawrywild]

I see, so the difference about you and holwill is only the bad luck?
I'm a bit scared about changing my e6600 with a q6600... i would not go under 3Ghz overclocking.

Not bad luck with the CPU. Bad luck with how the motherboard clocks, yes, but also how the memory and other components work alongside the motherboard.

[holwill]

Not bad luck with the CPU. Bad luck with how the motherboard clocks, yes, but also how the memory and other components work alongside the motherboard.

So lawry what has been your highest FSB so far with the GO? I have played some more tonight and do not think this board is gonna be stable over 340-345
even upping the vcore to 1.50 will not allow it to show any sign of stability with 355fsb.

[berdde]

I have a very strange problem. Initially I thought it's memory but now i think maybe it's the motherboard.

Memory is Crucial Ballistix PC2-850 (http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.aspx?IMODULE=BL2KIT12864AA1065)0 rated 5-5-5-15


e6600 OC to 3.3GHz
FSB 367
memory 1:1 = 734

Vcore 1.4875
vMemory 2.2
Vdimm 1.4
vMCH 1.6
All CPU options disabled.
SPD enabled, timing set at 5-5-5-18

Orthos/Prime95 25.3 Small FFTs stable for more than 5 hours. But Large FFTs almost always failed at around 1 hour plus 50 minutes. If I lowered the vMemory it failed more early.

Since it is rated at PC2-8500 how come it is difficult to run it at 734MHz? The strange thing is that when not OCing, that is , CPU at 2.4GHz, FSB 266. Then I can jump the memory to 1065MHz and it was stable for several hours in large FFTs. So it seems to be that this motherboard has problem working this memory at 1:1 or hig FSB? When FSB is 367, if I set the memory to higher than 734 (not 1:1 ratio) then it failed more frequently. That is, at FSB 367, the highest memory speed I can get is 734, and it is NOT stable. But when FSB of 266 I can run memory at 1065MHz although it's not 1:1. Well I might be too strict as at FSB367, memory 734, it ran memtest86+ more than four hours no problem. The problem I found is the error at both Orthos and Prime95. Should I worry?

I tried to move memory to slot 1, 3 to slot 2, 4, nothing happened.

Should I replace the memory? BTW the memory module cannot be recognized by my another board ASUS P5K-E but it appear to at least working to some extent in my P5W DH Deluxe.

Comment is welcome. Thanks!

[X7007]

I have a very strange problem. Initially I thought it's memory but now i think maybe it's the motherboard.

Memory is Crucial Ballistix PC2-850 (http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.aspx?IMODULE=BL2KIT12864AA1065)0 rated 5-5-5-15


e6600 OC to 3.3GHz
FSB 367
memory 1:1 = 734

Vcore 1.4875
vMemory 2.2
Vdimm 1.4
vMCH 1.6
All CPU options disabled.
SPD enabled, timing set at 5-5-5-18

Orthos/Prime95 25.3 Small FFTs stable for more than 5 hours. But Large FFTs almost always failed at around 1 hour plus 50 minutes. If I lowered the vMemory it failed more early.

Since it is rated at PC2-8500 how come it is difficult to run it at 734MHz? The strange thing is that when not OCing, that is , CPU at 2.4GHz, FSB 266. Then I can jump the memory to 1065MHz and it was stable for several hours in large FFTs. So it seems to be that this motherboard has problem working this memory at 1:1 or hig FSB? When FSB is 367, if I set the memory to higher than 734 (not 1:1 ratio) then it failed more frequently. That is, at FSB 367, the highest memory speed I can get is 734, and it is NOT stable. But when FSB of 266 I can run memory at 1065MHz although it's not 1:1. Well I might be too strict as at FSB367, memory 734, it ran memtest86+ more than four hours no problem. The problem I found is the error at both Orthos and Prime95. Should I worry?

I tried to move memory to slot 1, 3 to slot 2, 4, nothing happened.

Should I replace the memory? BTW the memory module cannot be recognized by my another board ASUS P5K-E but it appear to at least working to some extent in my P5W DH Deluxe.

Comment is welcome. Thanks!

With my Cellshock i dont have this problem, but i do need to give them 2.30V to be stable, or SuperPI fails after couple tests, try another bios, the beta.


QUESTION Please Anwser : What can cause to CRC Failed from extracting files from WINRAR or lets say the game Stranglehold Demo 1.92GB after extracting from RAR it has EXE file which Extract more files, which always CRC Failed in Data2.cab, i tried Opera browser, Maxthon browser, couple servers, from softpedia, Gamershell.

what can be the problem ??

[lawrywild]

So lawry what has been your highest FSB so far with the GO? I have played some more tonight and do not think this board is gonna be stable over 340-345
even upping the vcore to 1.50 will not allow it to show any sign of stability with 355fsb.

I don't care to be honest, I just stick with 333.

[WeldZilla]

Ok fine sesdave. you can stay but limit your responses to the p5WDH and quit trying to be a salesman for other boards. If guys are interested in opther boards they will find the re,evant thread.
now why on earth are you people in here using memory that must run at 5-5-5-15 at such horrible low fsb speeds. I have shoved 4 sticks of 6400HZ into my machine which means I have to urn it down abit but come on right now I am running 4 sticks at 400fsb with the mem running 1:1 with my timings set at 3-3-3-4. that is with only 2.5V. Too many are just murdering their performance in here with such horrible memory timings.
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=243534
If your memory won't do it then change it!!
Here is 4 sticks running 425 1:1 with the timings set at 4-4-4-4.
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=243857

OK now that is all I'm going to say on this. If you can't get good timings it is your own damn fault not the board's.
Now I'll quit befopre I chew my own ass for being a memory salesman. I will say too many of you have bought the wrong memory and the board had nothing to do with that.

WZ

PS. Best stability is actually achieved at 400FSB when you use 3-3-3-5 timings

[DrSlump]

So lawry what has been your highest FSB so far with the GO? I have played some more tonight and do not think this board is gonna be stable over 340-345
even upping the vcore to 1.50 will not allow it to show any sign of stability with 355fsb.

My main board reachs 400Mhz fsb and 3200Mhz cpu, with a v.core=1.4V and memory 1:1 4-4-4-8, v=2V.
Actually i keep my system@350Mhz to have 3150Mhz on the cpu and leave the speed step enabled, so it can scale to 2100Mhz when needed.

[X7007]

Does anyone have an idea why i always have CRC errors when i am trying to extract big games or installing games ?

in Gold Memory i have a memory test program in dos always find error same error over and over again, but prime or superPI doesnt find anything.

could be the memory dead ?

[freddeman]

Hi.

I have a very strange problem with my bios.

I use the latest beta 2302 bios and all settings in bios are saved on exit as they should except the onboard HD Audio settings and serial port setting. These settings remains enable whatever i do, if i disable them and save and then reboot they revert to enable.

But all other settings like memory timnings, FSB settings and so on are saved on exit

I always do a Cmos reset with the jumper for aprox 30 sec when i do a bios update.

What the heck can be wrong?

[X7007]

Hi.

I have a very strange problem with my bios.

I use the latest beta 2302 bios and all settings in bios are saved on exit as they should except the onboard HD Audio settings and serial port setting. These settings remains enable whatever i do, if i disable them and save and then reboot they revert to enable.

But all other settings like memory timnings, FSB settings and so on are saved on exit

I always do a Cmos reset with the jumper for aprox 30 sec when i do a bios update.

What the heck can be wrong?


Thats a problem with this bios and 2206,2301,2302

2004 is the only one without the problem.

[Pete]

I am so tempted to go back to this bord. P5K Deluxe just doesnt clock.

Whats the best BIOS out and working for a E6850 G0 stepping CPU?

[X7007]

Does anyone here give more than 2.20V Memory voltage ?

How much do i need to give my ram to go higher more than 800mhz 1:1 ? my ram is rated 4-4-4-12 800MHZ 2.20, how much is safe , and how far can i go?

please whoever knows.

[Severance]

Does anyone have an idea why i always have CRC errors when i am trying to extract big games or installing games ?

in Gold Memory i have a memory test program in dos always find error same error over and over again, but prime or superPI doesnt find anything.

could be the memory dead ?
Your memory is having errors. I have had the same problem many times unraring large files. Memtest says your stable but your not. Turn down memory and no more errors.
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[WeldZilla]

X7007 you should be running your mem at 2.3 daily if oy uput a fan blowing right on your memory. I run with G.Skill but, it has the same D9's as your and I have been running it since July of 06 anywhere from 2.25 to 2.4 without any problems. I have a 90mm fan that puts a lot of air cooling over my sticks.

WZ

[John600rr]

I got a quick question, it does not seem that the BIOS will recognize all of my RAM. Is this normal?

Here is my ram setup:

Slot 1: 512MB
Slot 2: 1GB
Slot 3: 512MB
Slot 4: 1GB

Now, on post it only shows up 2688MB's (see picture attached). I expected this in Windows since I am running a 32bit OS and have 1GB video card memory. But shouldn't the BIOS pickup all the memory regardless?

CPU-Z reports all the sticks and shows 3072MB's.

[nicko]

I got a quick question, it does not seem that the BIOS will recognize all of my RAM. Is this normal?

Here is my ram setup:

Slot 1: 512MB
Slot 2: 1GB
Slot 3: 512MB
Slot 4: 1GB

Now, on post it only shows up 2688MB's (see picture attached). I expected this in Windows since I am running a 32bit OS and have 1GB video card memory. But shouldn't the BIOS pickup all the memory regardless?

CPU-Z reports all the sticks and shows 3072MB's.

Just enable the memory remap option in bios ;)

[5OH]

been running beta 2302 bios all night on my early revision p5w board , and it seems very stable as good as 2004 and 2103 so far and hasn't had the annoying pci modem/audio controller found new hardware bug and the vcore resetting to auto bug that the 2200s bioses had not yet anyway .thumbs up from me for the 2302 bios

scratch the above its acting the same as the 2200 bioses = vcore resets to default and found pci modem /audio controller i wonder if its only specific to the early revision boards 2004 and 2103 work flawlessly but the 2200 bioses and this one all have the same quirks but when running its ok but on some reboots the vcore resets to auto or if you go in bios goes on auto WEIRD

It appears you have a similar issue as I do. I updated to the 2302 BIOS but for some reason the C1 is set to AUTO and I can't disable :(

[5OH]

Hey 50H I loaeded the 2302 just to check this for you and when I went into the bios to have a look it was disabled. Not sure why yours won't disable.
I then went back to the 2301 bios as I am not finished with it yet.
Why are you so wound up about being able to disable the C1 setting in the cpu config page of the bios. As far as stability or speed goes it changes nothing.
The only thing it does is make Core temp and cpuz read your correct multiplier. right now with C1 enabled core temp and cpuz think I am using the 6x multi instead of the 9x.
As soon as you put any load on they will read right.
As I said as far as actual performance goes its the same.
You sure should be able to disable it tho'

WZ

I need to disable the C1 to enable the adjust the CPU voltage. Right now the CPU Voltage setting in the BIOS is set to AUTO as well. Not sure what's up with the 2302 BIOS :(

[w2richwood]

try clearing cmos see if that helps
Rich

[WeldZilla]

Hey 50H here is a bios shot from my system. Here you see C1 disabled.
I have reloaded 2301 bios to check this. Now when I leave C1 enabled it still has no effect on cpu core voltage. Is your bios page set the same way?
Make sure everything is set as you see in my pic.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/IMG_4013a.jpg
Let me know if you had anything else set differently Thanks 50H, let's see if we can get this worked out or if it an issue with only your board.

WZ

If your wondering why only 400fsb I am just experimenting with this 2301 bios for the first time with 4 x 1024 megs of memory. This bios is handling it very well I am currently
running 400fsb 1:1 and my timings are set at 3-3-3-5. I through out 2301 and 2302 but decided that 2301 was defintely the better of the 2 for me. So I reloaded yet again to work on your problem and test it further.

[l2obert]

Could someone please give the latest revision of this board ? Is it 1.04?
Thanks.

[WeldZilla]

My latest P5WDH I purchased was a 1.04G. I bought it from Newegg 6-1-07.
I believe it to be the last revision. I have built 14 systems based on these terrific boards.

WZ

[5OH]

Hey 50H here is a bios shot from my system. Here you see C1 disabled.
I have reloaded 2301 bios to check this. Now when I leave C1 enabled it still has no effect on cpu core voltage. Is your bios page set the same way?
Make sure everything is set as you see in my pic.
Let me know if you had anything else set differently Thanks 50H, let's see if we can get this worked out or if it an issue with only your board.

WZ

If your wondering why only 400fsb I am just experimenting with this 2301 bios for the first time with 4 x 1024 megs of memory. This bios is handling it very well I am currently
running 400fsb 1:1 and my timings are set at 3-3-3-5. I through out 2301 and 2302 but decided that 2301 was defintely the better of the 2 for me. So I reloaded yet again to work on your problem and test it further.

Here's a couple of pics to give you a better idea of the 'AUTO' problem. Note the C1E and CPU Voltages are set to auto and can't be changed. There is no enabled or disabled option available. BTW: My board is a revision 1.02G

[l2obert]

My latest P5WDH I purchased was a 1.04G. I bought it from Newegg 6-1-07.
I believe it to be the last revision. I have built 14 systems based on these terrific boards.

WZ

Good news, thanks. :wiggle:

[WeldZilla]

you know I built on a few of those boards and the message was there but you could high light , hit enter and then disable. Not sure if perhaps there is an addition to this bios that whacks the older rev. boards. Did it do this with any of the older bios' you ran or is this new to the 22xx and 23xx bios'
you may want to drop back and run Lawry's modded 2004 bios to go with your quad core. It would suck to have to change mobo's otherwise to get more from your quad.

WZ

[sbinh]

Try to set your AI Overclocking to AUTO, then change value for C1E ........ After that, you can change AI Overclocking to MANUAL...... ...

[5OH]

Try to set your AI Overclocking to AUTO, then change value for C1E ........ After that, you can change AI Overclocking to MANUAL...... ...

Tried that and it didn't work. Thanks all the same for your suggestion :)

[5OH]

Ok... I finally figured out what the problem is. When I save my OC profile it sets the C1E and Vcore to AUTO. The only way to fix it is to clear the BIOS (jumper). I tried clearing the BIOS before, but I loaded a saved OC profile right after, so it didn't work. Not sure why just saving a OC profile will do this, hmmm!

Even though I'm able to set the Vcore I can't get the board to go beyond 9x340MHz with a Q6600 CPU. I've went as high as 1.6V with all other voltages maxed, but it's a no go :( I have another identical CPU to this on a P35 board and it overclocks to 3.4GHz on air, so it's not the CPU.

Time to retire this mobo I guess.

[mikepaul]

Has anyone had any issues with the main IDE port?

I've had both the Slave and now the Master drive attached to the main IDE port disappear within the last week, and only when I pushed on the connections did they come back. I plan to buy a new IDE cable just to be sure, but if there's a history of the port failing I might just get a cheap one. The rounded cable I'm using has been trouble-free for several years, but a little after midnight today the Master drive apparently just stopped being connected.

Since my A4 (good version) Neo HE550 power supply is in, working on all the internal issues at once seems like a good idea...

[nbraker]

I got a quick question, it does not seem that the BIOS will recognize all of my RAM. Is this normal?

Here is my ram setup:

Slot 1: 512MB
Slot 2: 1GB
Slot 3: 512MB
Slot 4: 1GB

Now, on post it only shows up 2688MB's (see picture attached). I expected this in Windows since I am running a 32bit OS and have 1GB video card memory. But shouldn't the BIOS pickup all the memory regardless?

CPU-Z reports all the sticks and shows 3072MB's.

The bios is limited to addressing the memory by a setting called Memory Remap. You should only change this if you use a 64 bit OS. XP and Vista both have a 64 bit version. I have the same issue with my 4Gb installed. I currently run 64 bit Vista and the bios reports all 4Gb with right setting.

The help on the setting in bios will give a SHORT description of each setting.

Good luck.

[nbraker]

I remember reading in here that the multiplier has been disabled in the bios by ASUS.

My question is this: Is it still disabled for the EXTREME Edition X6800 Core 2 Duo? I am using this CPU and am wondering WHY it was ever disabled since I'm pretty sure the CPU is sold UNLOCKED and we are 'allowed' to change the multiplier.

Thanks,

[Arlequin]

Hello,

I just got my Q6600 G0 and threw out my 3,2ghz prescott and now im wondering why windows is not showing 4 cores in task manager?

CPUZ info:

Number of processors 1
Number of cores 4 per processor
Number of threads 1 (max 4) per processor
Name Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
Code Name Kentsfield
Specification Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
Package Socket 775 LGA
Family/Model/Stepping 6.F.B
Extended Family/Model 6.F
Core Stepping G0
Technology 65 nm
Core Speed 2404.2 MHz
Multiplier x Bus speed 9.0 x 267.1 MHz
Rated Bus speed 1068.5 MHz
Stock frequency 2400 MHz
Instruction sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, EM64T
L1 Data cache (per processor) 4 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache (per processor) 4 x 32 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache (per processor) 2 x 4096 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
Chipset & Memory
Northbridge Intel i975X rev. C0
Southbridge Intel 82801GB (ICH7/R) rev. A1
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x16
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 2048 MBytes
Memory Frequency 267.1 MHz (1:1)
CAS# Latency (tCL) 4.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# (tRCD) 4 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 4 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 11 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 15 clocks
System
System Manufacturer ASUSTEK COMPUTER INC
System Name P5W DH Deluxe
System S/N System Serial Number
Mainboard Vendor ASUSTeK Computer INC.
Mainboard Model P5W DH Deluxe
BIOS Vendor American Megatrends Inc.
BIOS Version 2206
BIOS Date 07/24/2007
Memory SPD
Module 1 DDR2, PC2-4300 (266 MHz), 1024 MBytes, Apacer Technology
Module 2 DDR2, PC2-4300 (266 MHz), 1024 MBytes, Apacer Technology

Maybe i should remount it? I have a new bios?
So it couldnt be that and it seems like everything else is seeing the cores..device manager etc.
If anyone has any idea i would be grateful.

[WeldZilla]

Hey 50H don't use that OC profile crap. Go into your bios set what you want where you want it then hitF10 and enter and get out Don't ever use OC profiles or OC by percentage. Geez that is all just garbage. I wonder how many other having problems are using this crap. I'm sorry but just too many of you just aren't up to this. Everybody just wants to buy the sh*t hit a couple buttons and just like magic you get a massive overclock!! And when you don't the board is garbage ,the ram is garbage,the cpu is garbage oh and lets not forget that F'ing no good psu!!

Arlequin this was covered just a couple pages back!!.


WZ

[roger_h99.nor]

I remember reading in here that the multiplier has been disabled in the bios by ASUS.

My question is this: Is it still disabled for the EXTREME Edition X6800 Core 2 Duo? I am using this CPU and am wondering WHY it was ever disabled since I'm pretty sure the CPU is sold UNLOCKED and we are 'allowed' to change the multiplier.

Thanks,

Bios 1601 was the last to allow upwards multiplier. (see my sigg ;) )

[lawrywild]

Hey 50H don't use that OC profile crap. Go into your bios set what you want where you want it then hitF10 and enter and get out Don't ever use OC profiles or OC by percentage. Geez that is all just garbage. I wonder how many other having problems are using this crap. I'm sorry but just too many of you just aren't up to this. Everybody just wants to buy the sh*t hit a couple buttons and just like magic you get a massive overclock!! And when you don't the board is garbage ,the ram is garbage,the cpu is garbage oh and lets not forget that F'ing no good psu!!

Arlequin this was covered just a couple pages back!!.


WZ

I'm getting tired of your "god-like" attitude. You're hardly the king of overclocking and whether or not oc-profiles are rubbish, you don't go around talking to people like that, OK?

And don't tell people to get out of MY thread please. Sesdave is not the one causing arguments and disruption; that would be you.

[w2richwood]

i'm using bios 2004 would there be any benifets to using say bios 1602 or 1501 thanks in advances oh and btw i'm using and e6400 es chip
Rich

[WeldZilla]

Oh lawry relax I will get to your bios. Good grief take a pill. Oh and in case you are unaware, this is a thread started by you but it and all posts that get submitted here are the property of Xtreme Systems. Not yours, not mine, all theirs. Look it gets a little frustrating trying to bring peoples systems along when it takes forever to get just what they have for hardware in their systems and then trying to find out just how they are attempting to Over clock their systems.

I will make a Blanket statement to all right now that the P5WDH Should only be Overclocked Manually. Use no profiles, No %ages. Just Manually.

Let Heat determine your cpu voltage. i have excellent liquid cooling.
My e6600 is coming up on one year of 1.65 pretty much daily. Some days higher, some lower, it has never seen less than 1.55volts in bios. Never.

Don't be afraid, your cpu can take it. So long as you can keep temps in perspective.

I don't post here to make anyone person happy and anytime someone is only posting about ditching this board for their favorite board that is thread crapping and I am sure as hell going to say so.

I am not made of money. I have the same 6400 and 6600 I started with. I can't afford to cherry pick out of dozens. I get what I get and I make that work. I don't use super cooling as it is for the most part best suited for benching. All my computers live in cases. I try to bench not at my highest most clock but rather my highest stable clocks as I use my systems for video rendering. I need tham fast and stable. At 3825mhz daily my e6600 on this P5WDH is extremely fast and stable. my 6400 runs at 3600mhz daily and is air cooled. that is on a different board and I don't discuss it here.

w2richwood I don't think there would be any advantage in going back to either of those bios'. Unfortunately the 6400 is not really a great match for these boards as the board just can't hit a high enough clock for the chip. I ran the 6400 for a couple weeks while i waited for my 6600 to come in. I found my max stable to be around 435fsb which was just well below what the chip could do. But, that was all this board would do (Stable). It does much better with the 6600 simply because of the higher multiplier.
I believe the best bios may well have been the 1707 at least for me. Best bios seems to vary board to board.

WZ

[Creek Tha Gray]

Ok... I finally figured out what the problem is. When I save my OC profile it sets the C1E and Vcore to AUTO. The only way to fix it is to clear the BIOS (jumper). I tried clearing the BIOS before, but I loaded a saved OC profile right after, so it didn't work. Not sure why just saving a OC profile will do this, hmmm!

Even though I'm able to set the Vcore I can't get the board to go beyond 9x340MHz with a Q6600 CPU. I've went as high as 1.6V with all other voltages maxed, but it's a no go :( I have another identical CPU to this on a P35 board and it overclocks to 3.4GHz on air, so it's not the CPU.

Time to retire this mobo I guess.


same issue here had the mobo for some time just can't get the cpu above 3 ghz stable on it

Asus P5W DH Deluxe
Swiftech H20-apex ultra Water cooling, cpu only
Intel Core 2 Due Q6600 2.4ghz @ 3.1ghz
2x 2GB Mushkin Blue PC6400 @ DDR2 688mhz
3x 74GB WD SATA Raptors Raid 0, 2x 400GB WD SATA RE2 16mb Raid1, 2x 200GB WD SATA 8mb xp on one.
Pioneer DVD-RW, Xbox 360 HD DVD drive
ATI HD2900XT 1gb, X-fi Platnum
Antec NEO HE 500w power supply
Windows Vista Ultimate, Windows xp PRO x64, Dual Dell 2407FPW Monitors Woo!

[w2richwood]

thankz for the reply weldzilla yea i would love to have a e6600 some day owell 3.0 works good nuff on the e6400 dayly

[michaellundmark]

I have a problem with speedstep

First i had the E6600 Prosessor with the 2004 Bios and speedstep was working fine. Then i changed to Bios 2206 because i was to change the prosessor to Q6600. I don´t know if speedstep was working then.
And now i have changed to Q6600 and speedstep won´t work. Everytime i set speedstep Enable it disable it automatic everytime i restart the computer, How come? I have even tried the 2301 Beta Bios with no success.

[mikepaul]

OK, so when I replaced the power supply and cranked the OC back up to my previously acceptable speed listed in my sig, Orthos went way over 62C and leaving video transcoding to run overnight found the computer rebooted in the morning.

So, I reinstalled the Thermaltake V1 cooler with fresh AS5 and it didn't help. Even the 30% OC profile seems to run hotter than before.

Can you break a motherboard so that the cooler doesn't clamp down tight enough to dissipate the heat? Is it obvious when you look? I'll admit I wan't careful when I moved the computer back when the Arctic 7 cooler was on, but I didn't think I had done permanent damage: I figured the cooler had stopped working. All 4 legs seem to be firmly in-place, but I'm no expert.

I'm now wondering if I should pass on buying once of those CoolIt peltier coolers and get a fresh motherboard. I'd be ticked if I spent the $500 and found that even that cooler wasn't able to do a good job...

[WeldZilla]

w2richwood so you sit at 3000mhz. A fsb speed of 375, where are you running your mem? How have you got that page in your bios set up? ARe you sure that is not the reason you can't pass 375? At that speed you may well run it at 3-3-3-3 easily I should think at 3-3-3-4. Or are you running a divider? One thing people need to remember is when you get your cpu as far as it will go. it is time to turn to your memory and get it as tweaked as possible.

Hey michaellundmark did you read the last section in the P5WDH manual that came with your board about finishing the setup of EIST pages A-1 A-2. for the life of me I don't know why you would want your cpu to throttle back for any reason but hey different strokes.

w2richwood Memory settings look like this? Well at this point perhaps your timings don't but everything else?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/IMG_2972a.jpg


WZ

[w2richwood]

OK, so when I replaced the power supply and cranked the OC back up to my previously acceptable speed listed in my sig, Orthos went way over 62C and leaving video transcoding to run overnight found the computer rebooted in the morning.

So, I reinstalled the Thermaltake V1 cooler with fresh AS5 and it didn't help. Even the 30% OC profile seems to run hotter than before.

Can you break a motherboard so that the cooler doesn't clamp down tight enough to dissipate the heat? Is it obvious when you look? I'll admit I wan't careful when I moved the computer back when the Arctic 7 cooler was on, but I didn't think I had done permanent damage: I figured the cooler had stopped working. All 4 legs seem to be firmly in-place, but I'm no expert.

I'm now wondering if I should pass on buying once of those CoolIt peltier coolers and get a fresh motherboard. I'd be ticked if I spent the $500 and found that even that cooler wasn't able to do a good job...

4 3 3 and 10 on my memory and 2.15 mvolts

[w2richwood]

ok sit mine up just like yours had to put the volts up to 2.2 and yes 1 on 1

[mykep]

I have a problem with speedstep

First i had the E6600 Prosessor with the 2004 Bios and speedstep was working fine. Then i changed to Bios 2206 because i was to change the prosessor to Q6600. I don´t know if speedstep was working then.
And now i have changed to Q6600 and speedstep won´t work. Everytime i set speedstep Enable it disable it automatic everytime i restart the computer, How come? I have even tried the 2301 Beta Bios with no success.


same probleme here with speedstep, using e 6600, it just disables automatic after restart.

[michaellundmark]

Hey michaellundmark did you read the last section in the P5WDH manual that came with your board about finishing the setup of EIST pages A-1 A-2. for the life of me I don't know why you would want your cpu to throttle back for any reason but hey different strokes.
WZ

This problem has nothing with windows to do, it´s bios that disables it automatic


same probleme here with speedstep, using e 6600, it just disables automatic after restart.

What Bios are you using?

[lawrywild]

Oh lawry relax I will get to your bios. Good grief take a pill.

Maybe you should read your posts before you make a rididuculously hippocritical statement like that. You're the one who needs to chill mate.

PS: What does my bios have to do with this? Or do you think that I actually care you personally didn't try it?

[Snake_Eyes]

hey lawrywild does your bios 2004 G0 45mn edition support EIST enabled ?
I want to buy a Q6600 but i dont know if your bios does support EIST.

And can i change the multiplier from 6 to 9 in the bios with your bios version ?

[lawrywild]

Yeah, EIST works but you can't adjust vcore with EIST enabled and multipliers are adjustable. (just like any other bios)

[Snake_Eyes]

Yeah, EIST works but you can't adjust vcore with EIST enabled and multipliers are adjustable. (just like any other bios)
Okay but EIST doesnt work with newer version bios newer than your 2004 G0 45nm edition (correct me if i'm wrong)

And if i disable EIST, can i than change the miltiplier and the Vcore ?
And how about the C1 option, i dont know not so match about that setting and what it does.
if i enable it what can i do with it or what it do ?
Sorry for this noobies questions :P have to learn something about newer features of CPU's

I have now a Intel D950 clocked @ 4,2Ghz so that is not the problem overclocking i can do it myself, its only the newer features.

[mykep]

This problem has nothing with windows to do, it´s bios that disables it automatic




What Bios are you using?


2206

[michaellundmark]

2206

Can it be someting wrong with the Bios that ASUS doesent know about?

[Lurker246]

Hi Guys,

First off, I'd like to thank you all for the amount of information I've picked up on this thread. I've spent the last 5 weeks reading all 246 pages of this thread (It's been a slow month in work- he he). As this is my first ever system build, I went with the P5W but I'm still not finished picking up parts.

Now I might have a small problem and one I'm trying to nip now instead of one that occurs after I build the system and have to take it apart again.

Basically all I need to know is this... I picked up a Q6600 G0. Now I don't have a socket 775 cpu apart from this one. Will this motherboard boot with a Q6600 G0 and give me a CPU ucode error and then allow me to flash the Bios or will I have to order a bios chip/p4 775. As I don't even know what bios is currently flashed on the board at the moment...I'll be getting a PSU for it next week. Just wondering if anyone has had any problems with G0 on an older bios as I haven't seen this mentioned in the thread?

Again thanks for all the information it really has helped this noobie a hell of a lot.

[Creek Tha Gray]

Hi Guys,

First off, I'd like to thank you all for the amount of information I've picked up on this thread. I've spent the last 5 weeks reading all 246 pages of this thread (It's been a slow month in work- he he). As this is my first ever system build, I went with the P5W but I'm still not finished picking up parts.

Now I might have a small problem and one I'm trying to nip now instead of one that occurs after I build the system and have to take it apart again.

Basically all I need to know is this... I picked up a Q6600 G0. Now I don't have a socket 775 cpu apart from this one. Will this motherboard boot with a Q6600 G0 and give me a CPU ucode error and then allow me to flash the Bios or will I have to order a bios chip/p4 775. As I don't even know what bios is currently flashed on the board at the moment...I'll be getting a PSU for it next week. Just wondering if anyone has had any problems with G0 on an older bios as I haven't seen this mentioned in the thread?

Again thanks for all the information it really has helped this noobie a hell of a lot.

if your have just ordered the mobo then you should be good the bios will support quad core if for some resson you get a older board and the bios is out of date you will most likly need to get a new bios chip flashed.
but if you are just getting the mobo you will be good to go vary unlikly to get a board that old.

[Lurker246]

Thanks for the quick reply, I only picked up the mobo 3 weeks ago, I figured it should be OK for quads. When I looked at the board it had rev 1.03g which made me wonder- I thought it would be a 1.04g with a new-ish bios. I'll probably pick up a P4 anyway, may as well have a spare.

Thanks again.

[orrimarrko]

I too have spent the last few weeks reading all "245+" pages of this massive thread. The info here is invaluable and could almost be consolidated into some sort of Overclocking white paper or technical journal on the Asus P5W. My system is as follows (approx 5 weeks old):

Asus P5W Deluxe
Intel q6600 quad core G0 Stepping (boxed August 19, 2007)
Thermalright 120-Ultra Heat Sink and 120mm Antec TriCool fan
4GB Ballistic memory
ATI Radeon 2900xt
WD 150gb Raptor
Antec p182 case
Running Windows XP w/ all updates installed

With that said, I received a 1.04g revision of this board from ebuyer, and the BIOS on it was 1901. I installed a Intel Q6600 quad core cpu, and it recognized it immediately with no issues. I do get the incorrect CPUcode at bootup, but everything still works fine.

I read throught all pages on this forum before I attempted overclocking. Disabling everything I didnt need, I'm able to get up to 3.2ghz (fsb 1422, bus 355 ) with no problems. The system remains rock solid at this OC and I can run 20+ hour loops of Prime taxing all CPU's without a lockup. Half Life 2 Lost Coast Stress test can run for hours also with no issue.

I've had to adjust my MCH voltage to 1.65v, Mem voltage to 2.2v a FSB voltage of 1.4v and a CPU voltage to 1.4v also. PCI Express freq is at 110. Memory timings are at SPD.

Running Prime for a few hours, CPU 0&1 reach about 55C, while CPU 2&3 reach about 51C.

This is all on air colling only. I can get the system to boot and go into Windows at 3.4ghz (bus speed 378 x 9 multiplier) and remain stable with Prime for 20+ hours also taxing all 4 cpu's. Temperatures go up ofcourse, with CPU's 0&1 reaching 59C and 2&3 reaching 55C after several hours.

I can not run 3D games at this setting though. Half Life 2 or Bioshock will launch, but after 2-3 minutes, the game crashes and I get some sort of ati.dll error and thrown back to windows, or a hard lock will take place and the system will reboot.

Can anyone recommend some settings to adjust to try and get the videocard stable at these settings? Obviously the CPU has no problems at this OC, but the videocard doesnt want to make the leap from 3.2 to 3.4ghz it seems. Would increasing voltages in certain areas help this?

All in all, I love this board and CPU!! I'm amazed how much the G0 stepping allows me to overclock and temperatures remain very low. I was a bit leary initialy reading other peoples problems getting the G0 to overclock with this board though. I'm not sure if its the combined factor of having the latest rev board, or still using the 1901 BIOS, or possibly getting lucky with a good yield on all the pivotal components I've place in the system so far? But I'm amazed that an off the shelf quad core CPU could go from 2.4ghz to 3.4ghz so easily?

I'm confident I can get the videocard stable somehow at 3.4ghz, I'm just not sure what to adjust at this point voltage wise?

Cheers!
-Chris

Edit: An added note:
I originally had a second ATI 2900xt in crossfire configuration. I could not get the system stable in 3D games at anything above 3.0ghz (and even then, games after a few hours would crash, getting ati.dll errors). The performance of Crossfire also was dodgy at best with some games, so I returned one of the Radeon boards. Using only one Radeon card, I was then able to get up to 3.2ghz rock stable running anything. Clearly, running in Crossfire configuration seems to limit the potentials of Overclocking in some way?

[w2richwood]

try putting your pci-e lock back to 100 see if that helps
Rich

[holwill]

Firstly nice o/c there orrimarrko, I could not get my Q6600 stable above 340fsb on this board unlike my E6600 which sat 400-420 fsb 24/7( which bios? , I used lawry's), anyway was really posting to say this thread has been very helpful over the last 12 months and to wish everyone who continues to use this board all the best. I have jumped ship to a P5K-Premium which has allowed a 400fsb and my target of 3.6 out of my Q6600 and will also post and prime @3.8, although temps a bit toasty. Hopefully this will not be seen as thread crapping , more a farewell.

[Creek Tha Gray]

I too have spent the last few weeks reading all "245+" pages of this massive thread. The info here is invaluable and could almost be consolidated into some sort of Overclocking white paper or technical journal on the Asus P5W. My system is as follows (approx 5 weeks old):

Asus P5W Deluxe
Intel q6600 quad core G0 Stepping (boxed August 19, 2007)
Thermalright 120-Ultra Heat Sink and 120mm Antec TriCool fan
4GB Ballistic memory
ATI Radeon 2900xt
WD 150gb Raptor
Antec p182 case
Running Windows XP w/ all updates installed

With that said, I received a 1.04g revision of this board from ebuyer, and the BIOS on it was 1901. I installed a Intel Q6600 quad core cpu, and it recognized it immediately with no issues. I do get the incorrect CPUcode at bootup, but everything still works fine.

I read throught all pages on this forum before I attempted overclocking. Disabling everything I didnt need, I'm able to get up to 3.2ghz (fsb 1422, bus 355 ) with no problems. The system remains rock solid at this OC and I can run 20+ hour loops of Prime taxing all CPU's without a lockup. Half Life 2 Lost Coast Stress test can run for hours also with no issue.

I've had to adjust my MCH voltage to 1.65v, Mem voltage to 2.2v a FSB voltage of 1.4v and a CPU voltage to 1.4v also. PCI Express freq is at 110. Memory timings are at SPD.

Running Prime for a few hours, CPU 0&1 reach about 55C, while CPU 2&3 reach about 51C.

This is all on air colling only. I can get the system to boot and go into Windows at 3.4ghz (bus speed 378 x 9 multiplier) and remain stable with Prime for 20+ hours also taxing all 4 cpu's. Temperatures go up ofcourse, with CPU's 0&1 reaching 59C and 2&3 reaching 55C after several hours.

I can not run 3D games at this setting though. Half Life 2 or Bioshock will launch, but after 2-3 minutes, the game crashes and I get some sort of ati.dll error and thrown back to windows, or a hard lock will take place and the system will reboot.

Can anyone recommend some settings to adjust to try and get the videocard stable at these settings? Obviously the CPU has no problems at this OC, but the videocard doesnt want to make the leap from 3.2 to 3.4ghz it seems. Would increasing voltages in certain areas help this?

All in all, I love this board and CPU!! I'm amazed how much the G0 stepping allows me to overclock and temperatures remain very low. I was a bit leary initialy reading other peoples problems getting the G0 to overclock with this board though. I'm not sure if its the combined factor of having the latest rev board, or still using the 1901 BIOS, or possibly getting lucky with a good yield on all the pivotal components I've place in the system so far? But I'm amazed that an off the shelf quad core CPU could go from 2.4ghz to 3.4ghz so easily?

I'm confident I can get the videocard stable somehow at 3.4ghz, I'm just not sure what to adjust at this point voltage wise?

Cheers!
-Chris

Edit: An added note:
I originally had a second ATI 2900xt in crossfire configuration. I could not get the system stable in 3D games at anything above 3.0ghz (and even then, games after a few hours would crash, getting ati.dll errors). The performance of Crossfire also was dodgy at best with some games, so I returned one of the Radeon boards. Using only one Radeon card, I was then able to get up to 3.2ghz rock stable running anything. Clearly, running in Crossfire configuration seems to limit the potentials of Overclocking in some way?


wow you get into os with a q6600 that high you are lucky must be mobo rev 1.04 i have 1.02 can't get stable passed 3.0. 3.1 will boot into windows but not stable at all and one time only i was able to get to my desktop at 3.2 but crash

[Donseba]

Hello, i can´t pass 388mhz ddr2 corsair xms2 TWIN2X2048-8500C5, and if i pass the 388fsb in the motherboard the system become very unstable, i´m using the 2206 bios, what is the best bios to overclock that have best stability ??

thanks!!

[Creek Tha Gray]

Hello, i can´t pass 388mhz ddr2 corsair xms2 TWIN2X2048-8500C5, and if i pass the 388fsb in the motherboard the system become very unstable, i´m using the 2206 bios, what is the best bios to overclock that have best stability ??

thanks!!

sorry to tell you i had that same kit of ram and was never able to get it to run at 1066 or even close it has to do with the motherboard not supporting the ram at that high of a speed.

[mikepaul]

sorry to tell you i had that same kit of ram and was never able to get it to run at 1066 or even close it has to do with the motherboard not supporting the ram at that high of a speed.
I guess it depends on the CPU you are using, or maybe the age of the motherboard.

My TWIN2X2048-6400C4 tops out at 410Mhz, after which any stability test fails. I really wanted to try that 8500 memory, but to rebuy the faster stuff just for a trial isn't in MY budget. And I think I'd be better off getting 2 more gigs of the 6400 even if some of that RAM is unavailable under XP.

But like I say, with a lowly E6300 and an old P5W DH that tops out at 1.65V vMCH, I'm not sure any of my results can be compared to what other folks are getting...

[WeldZilla]

I Got my new Q6600 today and popped it in. It runs pretty well. I have not had time to really play with it yet.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/cpuzzzzzz.jpg
As you can see with my liquid cooling heat won't be an issue

Than I ran 4 x pi just to see
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/piyiyi.jpg
It went pretty well.

Then a shot at 3D06. I was very happy with the CPU Score!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/06alltogether.jpg
My 4 sticks of memory liked the lower fsb. The timings are nice and tight!!
I will tweek on this machine over the next few days and weeks and just see what it can get out of this chip. Right now it is off to a good start.
Oh and here are the links
3D06 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=3193893

PC Mark05 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?pcm05=1114127

WZ

[w2richwood]

congrads wz off to a good start there looks good what rev is your board
Rich

[WeldZilla]

Thanks w2richwood, the board is the 1.04G bought just this last june.

WZ

[w2richwood]

mines a 103g thanking of getting a quad maybe later myself. but for now im looking to buy a e6600 tell they drop in price.hope mine will clock as good as yours
Rich

[Snake_Eyes]

Hey Lawrywild

I use your bios:
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2004-G0-45nm-Edition (Modified by lawrywild)
Does it support with a Q9450 if i buy that processor ?

I wanna buy that proc but i dont know if the bios you made can support the Q9450.

But if i flash the bios to 2302 i think EIST and other problems with Vcore and Audio enables after boot are back if i flash it to 2302.

If it not support the Q9450, do you make a new bios that support the Q9450 and that have no problem with EIST and Multiplier and the Onboard Audio and the Vcore ?..

[Zeus]

Forgive my ignorance but is there already a bios out that allows tRFC and tRD changes?

[lawrywild]

Forgive my ignorance but is there already a bios out that allows tRFC and tRD changes?

Nope, pretty sure there never will be.. :mad:

[lawrywild]

Hey Lawrywild

I use your bios:
P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2004-G0-45nm-Edition (Modified by lawrywild)
Does it support with a Q9450 if i buy that processor ?

I wanna buy that proc but i dont know if the bios you made can support the Q9450.

But if i flash the bios to 2302 i think EIST and other problems with Vcore and Audio enables after boot are back if i flash it to 2302.

If it not support the Q9450, do you make a new bios that support the Q9450 and that have no problem with EIST and Multiplier and the Onboard Audio and the Vcore ?..

Should do, but can never be 100% positive until it has been tested and confirmed. Basically, my bios has all the cpu uCodes from the "45nm compatible" bioses for other 975x boards and 2206. Unless ASUS actually made major changes to the bios to support 45nm, which I highly doubt, it will work fine. :)

[bichi]

P5WDH; Rev 1.02g; 66M0AG; (July 2006); Q6700 G0 @ 3.0G; BIOS: 2302
- switched from QX6700 B3 to Q6700 G0, Aug 23, 2007
- stable @ 300FSB with either QX6700 B3 or Q6700 G0
- never a problem with memory @ 1000, 3:5, 5,5,5,15
- EZFlash USB flashdrive method
- use Speedstep, Vcore settings not tested
- FSB, MCH, ICH volts set manually to lowest values
- no problems with "onboard audio" staying disabled (X-FI F1 installed)
- or any other BIOS settings
- all QFan PWM settings disabled
- no radical performance change
- temps all nominal (Q6700 G0)
- AMB: 71f/21.6c; case closed
- approx 35watt less AC power, same machine clock/specs/parts, than QX6700 B3 (measured with WattsUpPro)
- specs/details in sig below

OCCT TEST @ 24min with CPUZ, Coretemp, MB Monitor:
http://www.esnips.com/doc/6474e6d5-bf06-4bd2-a419-5b5683827b46/70-P5WDH-2302-OCCT-1-24min

OCCT TEST 1sec before end (shows idle temps/SpeedStep Vcore):
http://www.esnips.com/doc/565d658f-a454-4764-a385-04455c55a110/71-P5WDH-2302-OCCT-2-00min-end

[Creek Tha Gray]

P5WDH; Rev 1.02g; 66M0AG; (July 2006); Q6700 G0 @ 3.0G; BIOS: 2302
- switched from QX6700 B3 to Q6700 G0, Aug 23, 2007
- stable @ 300FSB with either QX6700 B3 or Q6700 G0
- never a problem with memory @ 1000, 3:5, 5,5,5,15
- EZFlash USB flashdrive method
- use Speedstep, Vcore settings not tested
- no problems with "onboard audio" staying disabled (X-FI F1 installed)
- or any other BIOS settings
- all QFan PWM settings disabled
- no radical performance change
- temps all nominal (Q6700 G0)
- AMB: 71f/21.6c; case closed
- approx 35watt less AC power, same machine clock/specs/parts, than QX6700 B3 (measured with WattsUpPro)
- specs/details in sig below

OCCT TEST @ 24min with CPUZ, Coretemp, MB Monitor:
http://www.esnips.com/doc/6474e6d5-bf06-4bd2-a419-5b5683827b46/70-P5WDH-2302-OCCT-1-24min

OCCT TEST 1sec before end (shows idle temps/SpeedStep Vcore):
http://www.esnips.com/doc/565d658f-a454-4764-a385-04455c55a110/71-P5WDH-2302-OCCT-2-00min-end

same rev 1.02 mobo and same issues with the cpu it looks like only the newest rev 1.04 that sucks but hey what do you expect from a mobo that was never setup for quad in the first place. that is when it was first put out.

[bichi]

same rev 1.02 mobo and same issues with the cpu it looks like only the newest rev 1.04 that sucks but hey what do you expect from a mobo that was never setup for quad in the first place. that is when it was first put out.

Had a P5WDH, board Rev 1.02g, but "69M0AG" on the box tag, as opposed to "66M0AG," that was not as stable at 300FSB and QX6700.
- so it may be the boxtag that's the differentiator and not just the board rev...
- the 66M0AG has been working great since July 2006, 6700 QX B3 or Q G0 @ 3.0g, with either 2 or 4gig RAM @ 500/1000, 3:5.
- not as stable at FSB320/3.2g and 4gig RAM, however...

[Creek Tha Gray]

Had a P5WDH, board Rev 1.02g, but "69M0AG" on the box tag, as opposed to "66M0AG," that was not as stable at 300FSB and QX6700.
- so it may be the boxtag that's the differentiator and not just the board rev...
- the 66M0AG has been working great since July 2006, 6700 QX B3 or Q G0 @ 3.0g, with either 2 or 4gig RAM @ 500/1000, 3:5.
- not as stable at FSB320/3.2g and 4gig RAM, however...

my box is 6AM0AG from zipzoomfly on 10/16/06

[Donseba]

can anybody tell me what is the best bios to overclock and stability?? i have p5w dh deluxe rev 1.04g, and if want to downgrade the bios, how can i do ?? because the asus update doesn´t do that

thanks

[Creek Tha Gray]

can anybody tell me what is the best bios to overclock and stability?? i have p5w dh deluxe rev 1.04g, and if want to downgrade the bios, how can i do ?? because the asus update doesn´t do that

thanks

we need to know what cpu you have and what bios you currently have installed.

[WeldZilla]

Well after poking and prodding with high volts all night I am getting more out of this new Quad core. Tonight I am able to run stable and smooth at 396 fsb instead of 390. I can boot and run for awhile at 403 but it isn't stable enough for anything. Last night when it was a virgin it would not boot where it runs smooth at tonight. It has seen volts as high as 1.675 today and tonight, but now it is running nice at 1.6 in bios. here is a shot of my latest 3D06.
I am running the memory, all 4 sticks on turbo, with 2.3V 1:1 with my timings set at 3-3-3-5. Soon I will be over 400 and climbing.
As you can see temps are not a problem!:up:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/06scratching.jpg
You just gotts love that CPU Score!
Oh and this is for you doubters
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=3210179


WZ

[Donseba]

we need to know what cpu you have and what bios you currently have installed.

i have a C2D e6420 and the bios 2206

[WeldZilla]

You knw Donseba I preferred the 2004 bios the 1707 bios and if you want to stay more current although it it really does not offer anything as far as real improvements go, the 2301 bios. It's just that the 22xx bios revs. were just horrible for my system.

WZ

[d.chatten]

- no problems with "onboard audio" staying disabled (X-FI F1 installed)
- or any other BIOS settings

The issue is that the "onboard audio" and the "serial port" stays enabled, "NOT" disabled.

[Donseba]

and how can i pass from the 2206 to 2004 bios ?

[WeldZilla]

Donseba you will have to go and snag afudos 211 load it onto a floppy along with the 2004 bios image stick it in the floppy drive go into bios and set your floppy as your first boot device and boot. it will go right on into a dos boot and just do what is needed to install. Now if you have done something wrong it will let you know that it can't read your bios or whatever. do not panic just pop out the floppy and restart it will boot with your current bios and then start again. when I went back I edited the number portion off of the bios.
Instead of putting P5WDH2004.rom on the floppy. Rename it to P5WDH.rom
this is how i went back from 22xx. Still if you are going back I think i would fall back to 1707, run it for awhile and see how you like it. if you don't then load up 2004. stay away from the 19xx bios' as for me they sucked too.
Good luck, you can read tutorials on using afudos, it is really easy but, for a first timer it can be nerve racking doing this stuff. If you totally screw the pooch there is asection on bios recovery in your P5WDH manual.
If you read up you can do this!!

WZ

[w2richwood]

used to disk one for dos boot and one with afudos and bios boot to the boot disk then put in the afudos and bios fallow the directions good luck
rich

[tompl]

I want to change my ram, now im using corsair xms2 6400pc cl4 2x512. im looking for sth not expensive 2x1GB pc6400 which will allow me to set them 1:1 with 400fsb. I had some problems with corsair while there were working in dualchannel with 400fsb(errors in memtest random sequence number).

what do you think about it?

i have upgraded bios to 2301 and it seems to working fine for me with 400fsb... So i dont know what to do now, buy 2x1024mb or buy another pair corsair 2x512?

[nicko]

and how can i pass from the 2206 to 2004 bios ?

Turn on the Asus update, choose Options and put a mark on Bios Downgradable. Then you can flash the older bios.

[mikepaul]

Planning ahead to my next CPU purchase, I have a potentially dumb question.

If I get a 3+Ghz Penryn with as many cores as I can afford, it'll require bumping the FSB up to 1333Mhz just to be on-clock. Would that still need to be treated as overclocking when it comes to the other BIOS settings, or would Auto be OK?

My target for this machine was 3Ghz and I never quite made it, and if going "stock" with a new CPU would do it, that's the way I'd prefer to go now...

[Skoogra]

I have this Mobo(obviously) and I currently have:
E6600
2x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC6400

Should I upgrade to:
Q6600
4x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC8000

Or should I just get another stick or 2 of PC6400? I don't know which is better memory wise nor processor wise on this board. I am assuming quad core for twice the l1 and l2 cache. Let me know, thanks!

[Zeus]

I have this Mobo(obviously) and I currently have:
E6600
2x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC6400

Should I upgrade to:
Q6600
4x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC8000

Or should I just get another stick or 2 of PC6400? I don't know which is better memory wise nor processor wise on this board. I am assuming quad core for twice the l1 and l2 cache. Let me know, thanks!

I'd go with the second choice.
Since this board won't let you overclock the mem very well, getting PC8000 is a waiste, PC6400 is rated for 400MHz, so plenty enough for this board.

Your next upgrade will most likely be DDR3.

[Donseba]

hello, it´s normal the temp of the chipset on my p5w dh deluxe, 45° with 1.65v ?? and the cpu e6420 @ 3.1, FSB is in 1.3

thanks again!

[Skoogra]

I'd go with the second choice.
Since this board won't let you overclock the mem very well, getting PC8000 is a waiste, PC6400 is rated for 400MHz, so plenty enough for this board.

Your next upgrade will most likely be DDR3.

Say I already had the PC8000 Crucial Ballistix and I was coming from PC6400 Crucial Ballistix. I currently have 2x1GB PC6400 Ballistix, but would it be worth it to throw the 4x1GB PC8000 Ballistix in or not? Thanks.

[Skoogra]

Also, does the 120 mm fan Tuniq Tower work with this Motherboard and the Q6600 processor? I have had one laying around for 8 months or so and I want to get it installed when the processor gets here.

[michaellundmark]

Is it safe to run a Q6600 @ 3GHz 24/7
I know that the prosessor can take it, but will the motherboard?

[lawrywild]

My motherboard just became extremely unstable after running 24/7 with 3Ghz. Suddenly it just can't run 333fsb anymore. Only just about managed to get it stable at stock with 5-5-5-15 @ 667 =/

[roger_h99.nor]

Sad to hear lawrywild :(

Could be almost anything; your PSU, RAM or CPU giving in. Have you visually inspected your board? It might be a blown cap or a burned mosfet.

This thing used to happend in the '875 -days', when overclocking Prescotts had a nasty tendency to kill mosfets and caps around the cpu-socket.

Have no profe of this, but I have had a suspicion for some time that the PWM on this boards is to weak for Quads (oc quads that is). My advice is to sink the mosfets, at least when using watercooling.

Hope you find the faulty component.

Brgrds, Roger.

[lawrywild]

Not looked yet. I went for a nap in the afternoon. Woke up 2 hours later and pc was rebooting itself constantly and wouldn't boot up for like 10 minutes. There wasn't any burning smells or anything but I'll have a look.

Nevertheless, I will buy a new motherboard around xmas time..

[alexlyc]

I've been running my G0 Quad @ 3GHz (334fsb) for more than a month now, with pretty much the same setup like u... 4GB Gskill HZ, 2x TT spirit II but w/ active fan... and also 2x 120mm side fan for memroy and sb... everything is running on stock volt... I just never had any problem with it under any circumstances tho. Could it be a heat problem to your nb/mosfet, or maybe not enough power?

[alexlyc]

hello, it´s normal the temp of the chipset on my p5w dh deluxe, 45° with 1.65v ?? and the cpu e6420 @ 3.1, FSB is in 1.3

thanks again!

yes thats normal, asus tech has told me that nb/sb chipset shall not exceed 65°C, search for my previous post, I've quoted asus tech support about this issue.
But to be honest, I would either add some side fan or just replace the stock heatsink on both nb/sb with TT Spirit II or TR HR-05/SLI... cuz you gonna notice a big difference in startup time and entering the monitor section in the bio, and oc a little bit better...

[GLENBOY]

Not looked yet. I went for a nap in the afternoon. Woke up 2 hours later and pc was rebooting itself constantly and wouldn't boot up for like 10 minutes. There wasn't any burning smells or anything but I'll have a look.

Nevertheless, I will buy a new motherboard around xmas time..



you can't do that lawry get another p5w you got to get this thread up to a million views , on a side note got an e6850 go stepping and it runs flawlessly on your 2004 modded bios , i must admit i'm still impressed with this board even though now its a bit "old school"

[w2richwood]

lawrywild may i ask what rev is you board i havew a 103g am thinking of getting a quad myself since i can find a e6600 under 170 or so. so may as well go quad
Rich

[shaithis]

103g here and its seriously holding my X3210 back :(

Had it @ 3.4GHz in my other board......Only reaches 2.8GHz on the P5W DH

[P5WDHdeluxe]

Hey guys...
i think i had seen once here, i am not sure in which thread, a thread with many pictures from several bios settings with the volts from o/ced P5W DH boards...
Rings a bell to anyone?

ps: Is there a guide for o/cing this board...?

Thanx in advance...

A rookie-one

[w2richwood]

well you can read all 248 pages or do a search or google it or ask questions in here
Rich

[lawrywild]

1.02G, the orig

I am sooo relieved right now! Opened up my case and my TT Spirit II was lieing on my graphics card!!! It managed to lever out the soldered U (n) hooks that was nearest the ram. I managed to bodge everything back together using the hole next to it, that you use to mount the motherboard to the case and everything seems to be working fine again! Soooo happy!

The chipset core was just completely bare so clearly was overheating like mad causing the freezes, hopefully that heat didn't do any damage though. Seems not to have done so far but I'll prime blend again tonight.

Wonder how long until the next hook gets yanked out... :(

[Zeus]

Lucky sod! :D

It's a miracle nothing shorted on your videocard.

[roger_h99.nor]

:up:
Good thing the mobo survied!
I had 2 Asus 875 mobos died because of this very same thing. (Used a waterblock that loosend)

My P5WDH is modified in this regard - drilled open the holes on the two 'missing' hooks and soldered 2 more in place. Pretty straight forward.

brgrds, r.-

[lawrywild]

Lucky sod! :D

It's a miracle nothing shorted on your videocard.

I know! No idea how that worked, the metal clips were like going across about 5 caps and mosfets lol

I tried soldering the hook back on but my iron is only 18w, not powerful enough to heat the solder asus uses. I tried putting a lump of my own solder ontop and heating that but still didn't melt it. If the other clip goes then I'll have to get a more powerful iron or thermal epoxy the cooler permamently (seems like a very good option right now).

Also I remounted my cpu cooler and temps dropped 2'C idle so far and AS5 no where near burnt in yet :)

[w2richwood]

glad to hear your up and running again clo call there could taken the board out or the north bridge:up:
Rich

[Zeus]

Wow, you mean the darn hook just popped out of the pcb?

I thought the lever of the cooler popped out of the hook.

If the solder join is just broken a bit bigger soldering iron will brighten up your day.

Using the 2 unused "holes" in the pcb might be a good idea.

I've always had a dislike for this hooking mechanism, especially with aftermarket coolers, i hope Intel takes notice and ditches those hooks.

I haven't seen 'm on the newer chipsets, let's hope it 'll stay that way.

[lawrywild]

Yep the whole hook. The metal didn't break, the solder just couldn't hold it and out it came. It has happened to someone else in this thread before, using the same chipset cooler. probably around half way through this thread. He mounted it back by a similar method to what I did. Luckily for both of us it was that hook and not the other one..

[Grendel66]

The Paperclip (http://216.92.157.135/MoBo_Buegel_selbst_gemacht.html) solution :cool:

[w2richwood]

:up: thanks thats great now i know how to fix think that was done wit some of the old p4c800s also years age good to refesh your mind
Rich

[~aoe~]

:up: from me too

This is the first Asus board I've owned that has this retention system for the NB (owned many others), and I have to say that I am not completely comfortable with it. I also currently have the TT Spirit II installed and my first reaction after Lawrywild's post was to check my own installation.

I'll soon be switching to water-cooling, but will still have the same concerns regarding these 'hooks'. At least I now know how to fix the problem if/when it happens :)

Thanks for the info.

[w2richwood]

ok lawry i got your bios now i need a g6600 to try it out with be a week or so will post back thanks
Rich

[ajm786]

The Paperclip (http://216.92.157.135/MoBo_Buegel_selbst_gemacht.html) solution :cool:

I first came up with this solution back in the days of the Abit IC7-G motherboard. My thread is well documented in the Abit forums. Exact situation happened to me, and the paperclip solution worked perfectly.

[P5WDHdeluxe]

When trying to o/c my E6600 (steping B2) to 3GHZ my system looks pretty unstable... I guess that the problem is on FSB, ICH & MCH voltage where i leave the auto option cause i couldn't find proper values on o/c situations....
So there which are the correct values during a 3GHZ o/c?

[Skoogra]

I just got my Q6600 installed with Tuniq Tower. B3 Stepping :(
I am currently at 3Ghz 333MHz*9Multiplier and it seems stable with Prime95 running for almost 4 Hours now.
Core temp 0.95 says 52* 51* 58* 54* one second, then 61* 57* 49* 49* C
What is the highest temperature the cores can reach safely? And what is a good way to stress all 4 cores 100%? I am on 2004 bios, should I upgrade?

Side Note: should I use the 2004 G0 edition even though I have a B3?

[lawrywild]

If those temps are under load, they are fine. Mine can reach up to 75'C under Prime SmallFFTs. (1.2625v)

Your choice, I would stick with 2004 official if I was you.

[Skoogra]

Ok, I tried going like 350 fsb at 9x multiplier. But windows would either freeze or not go past the login step. I changed to 333 fsb and up'd the voltage of just the cpu to 1.40v instead of 1.30v and it seems to be stable at 3Ghz. It would be sweet to go 3.2GHz or something if I can keep the temps low and if it were perhaps stable. Kind of new to the whole extreme over clocking. Some day I will be as good as you guys though I hope!
I am using the small ffts and it has been going for like 5 or 6 hours now with no problems, but I have no idea why the temps fluctuate so rapidly.

[Skoogra]

I got up to 98.2% CPU usage using 3xOrthos running small fft's, 1 super-pi 1.5 running 8M figures, 1x Prime95 running small fft's.
The thing that is weird is temps are 68*C, 66*C, 61*C, 60*C and cores 0 and 1 seem to be straight 100% while cores 2 and 3 seem to jump a little every millisecond(from 90-99%?). Is this normal?
I doubt I will ever actually use all 4 cores and get 100% out of them if it takes this much just to get to 98.2%...

[asapreta]

My cousin has this board and he is using the 2301 Asus Bios.
His overclock is a bit unstable on the E6750 Intel processor.

I know that within a certain bios version it is not possible to downgrade it.
But I also remember sending a friend a link about how to do it and he made it.

I dunno if the right command is:

AFUDOS /i2004.rom /o2301.rom /n /pbnc

Is it?? Or Should I do it enabling downgrading on Asus Update Utility?

Thanks in advance.

[michaellundmark]

I got up to 98.2% CPU usage using 3xOrthos running small fft's, 1 super-pi 1.5 running 8M figures, 1x Prime95 running small fft's.
The thing that is weird is temps are 68*C, 66*C, 61*C, 60*C and cores 0 and 1 seem to be straight 100% while cores 2 and 3 seem to jump a little every millisecond(from 90-99%?). Is this normal?
I doubt I will ever actually use all 4 cores and get 100% out of them if it takes this much just to get to 98.2%...

Wprime?

[Skoogra]

Ok, so I downloaded a Prime95 that has multiple apps running, one for each of the four cores. It is now hitting 100% cpu usage and the temps are still under 70*C. This is with small fft's though. (No errors)
When I go to blend where the ram is tested, I get errors after 1-3 minutes per core. Do I have to alter the memory voltage or timings or is the memory bad?

[Grendel66]

BIOS 2302 now official -- ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2302.zip

Edit: According to fc /b it's exactly the same as the 2302 beta that was available earlier here (http://www.mapesh-online.de/2302.zip).

[lawrywild]

No need to upgrade for me, my 2004 mod works for me like a charm. :)

[Skoogra]

What is the advantages/disadvantages of 2302 vs 2004? It must be something in the positive direction since they wouldn't work at a zero effort..

[w2richwood]

well im not using asus new. bios 2004 is fine came across a e6700 es so i dont need to upgrade and if i did it would be lawrywilds moded bios
Rich

[ajm786]

I'm having a major problem. I just bought another 2GB of Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400 (2 x 1GB). My computer does not want to run AT ALL with 4x1GB. It crashes all over the place, even when running the memory at default speed. If I take out 2GB, the other 2GB works fine just as it always has.

What can I do to run all 4GB at once?

[crishan]

I'm having a major problem. I just bought another 2GB of Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400 (2 x 1GB). My computer does not want to run AT ALL with 4x1GB. It crashes all over the place, even when running the memory at default speed. If I take out 2GB, the other 2GB works fine just as it always has.

What can I do to run all 4GB at once?

Try to increase your memory voltage to 2.2 Volts, also increase MCH Chipset Voltage to 1.65 Volts (while only having 2 of the memory sticks installed). Then switch off your computer, put in the remaining 2 memory sticks and switch on your machine. Also try a memory voltage of 2.25 Volts...


On another note:
The 2302 BIOS is still crap. They changed nothing from the beta versions;
The Realtek HD Audio Controller still stays enabled, as does the Serial Port Address (on 3F8/IRQ4). Intel Speedstep remains Disabled :rolleyes:

The real kicker comes when in the BIOS you try

TOOLS
-> ASUS Music Alarm
-> ASUS Music Alarm Option
-> Detect CD:


Pressing ENTER here yields the result of a BIOS crash within the BIOS,
while the BIOS' language gets switched to Chinese BIG5 :clap: :rofl: :rolleyes:

Bravo, ASUS, really, Bravo :down:
Maybe they're screwing up this bad intentionally, or they have monkeys code
their BIOSes now. :shrug:

It's back to 2103 for me, which is the last BIOS without all the issues.

[ajm786]

Try to increase your memory voltage to 2.2 Volts, also increase MCH Chipset Voltage to 1.65 Volts (while only having 2 of the memory sticks installed). Then switch off your computer, put in the remaining 2 memory sticks and switch on your machine. Also try a memory voltage of 2.25 Volts...


I tried EVERYTHING, including that. Nothing works at all. Crashes galore.

I did some further research and found out that it's hard to run 4x1GB with any OC at all. The only way I could get it to run stable was by lowering the speed to DDR600, which puts me under 100Mhz from the FSB of the CPU, and, thus making my memory a bottleneck.

I went out and bought some 2x2GB sticks. This will solve the problems. I'll report back.

[MacClipper]

fyi, my mobo needed 1.75v for vMCH to run 4 x 1GB stable at 400FSB when I was running my dualcores (E6750@3.2, E6300@2.8 both Auto Vcore) while vDIMM then was just 2.00v for 4-4-4-8 on my Crucials. Now Q6600@333FSB, all volts auto except Vdimm at 2.05v 3-3-3-8 Crucials@667.

HTH.

[shaithis]

I would love to know why adding a quad core severely limits the FSB on this motherboard.

Haven't heard of any other mobos doing the same =S

[lawrywild]

All motherboards clock lower on the FSB using a Quad vs Dual.

[BulldogPO]

Yes, All.

[crishan]

I would love to know why adding a quad core severely limits the FSB on this motherboard.

Haven't heard of any other mobos doing the same =S

I have found an answer to that question at The Tech Repository:

http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=87

specifically here:

http://www.thetechrepository.com/showpost.php?p=191&postcount=2


where freecableguy talks about Adjusting [Advanced] Gunning Transceiver Logic (A/GTL+) Voltage Levels
for Increased Front Side Bus (FSB) Signaling Margins and Overclocking.

To quote him:


We can confidently say to you that Asus designs are so similar to Intel designs in this area of the motherboard that there is no doubt in our minds that Intel must supply them with some sort of "reference design." We have shown below modifications (Figure 1) for the Asus P5W DH Deluxe motherboard, a 975X chipset solution. We've also shown a picture that details the trace routes on the motherboard for one of the VTT to GTL reference voltage dividers (Figure 2) so that those that want to look for this on their motheboard at least know where to start looking.

Interesting to note, we cannot locate more than two (2) GTL reference voltage dividers on this motherboard, which could perhaps explain why this motherboard is rather poor at overclocking a quad-core (QC) CPU. This suggests that Intel's QC processors will supply Core 0/1 and Core 2/3 GTL reference voltages (Address) with their respective Data values if there is no external bias applied to pins F2 and G10. Please let us know if you can manage to locate the other two...

[Grendel66]

The 2302 BIOS is still crap. They changed nothing from the beta versions;
The Realtek HD Audio Controller still stays enabled, as does the Serial Port Address (on 3F8/IRQ4). Intel Speedstep remains Disabled :rolleyes:
Very odd, I never had those problems. 1st gen board, went through all BIOSes that came out, always used EZ-FLASH followed by a Load Defaults. Afterwards I just disable the audio crap and enable EIST. Never tried to disable the SIO ports tho.. :shrug:

[crishan]

Very odd, I never had those problems. 1st gen board, went through all BIOSes that came out, always used EZ-FLASH followed by a Load Defaults. Afterwards I just disable the audio crap and enable EIST. Never tried to disable the SIO ports tho..

Apparently, this behaviour also differs between those who had the Realtek audio enabled before flashing to the 2205/2206/2301/2302 BIOS, and those who did not.

Also, I of course always clear the cmos and load setup defaults after upgrading the BIOS etc. Still, no-go with 2302.
I don't understand why noone at ASUS has stumbled upon this?

[biri36]

Hi

Can i disable Enhanced C1 Control and Intel SpeedStep with P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2004-G0-45nm-Edition ?When no wich Bios can i us?



thx

[mstp2009]

FWIW, I'm clocking about 500MHz faster (READ: STABLE) on a new board.

P5W-DH Dlx - Q6600 G0 @ 3.15GHz
P5K Premium - Q6600 G0 @ 3.6GHz

Both of those are with the EXACT same RAM, HSF (TR Ultra X-120), thermal paste, case, HDDs, video card - the works. All that changed was the board.

Both are Prime95 multicore stable for 48 hours. On the P5K I can boot at 4GHz (but not stable).


I loved the old P5W DH, but I had a really early version that only did up to 1.65V on the MCH, and it was REALLY holding the chip back.

[mobo57]

Hey is there another place to get the optimized 2004 BIOS (G0 edition)? Been trying for two days and keep getting the site is too busy, try back in two minutes....
Want to take my Q out of my AW9D-Max and try it out in my DH, but need to get a newer bios first, think I'm still on 15XX with my E6600 at 400X9, 24/7.

[lawrywild]

I think www.mapesh-online.de mirrored it.

[Cyclop]

Hi everyone!

I would really appreciate your advice as to what bios version would be the best choice for Core 2 Quad 6700 (G0 stepping). I realize that ASUS's website says this cpu is supported since 2205, but I am also aware that there has been quite a number of bios versions since 2205. What I need is the MOST stable and reliable one.

I do not overclock, and will not be using RAID, WI-FI, onboard sound - they will be set to Disabled in bios. So what I am looking for is not expected to incorporate any advanced features whatsoever. Just pure, rock solid stability.

Thanks in advance!

[GLENBOY]

i would advise lawrys 2004 modded bios link on first page of this thread i have a go stepping e6850 and it works fine with it

[Nitrium]

Uh, quick question: I'm having those issues related to the audio being always on when turning on the computer (actually, the problem got worse with 2302 BIOS - now it sets itself on when resetting the PC) and I've tried to downgrade the BIOS using AsusUpdate, but it says that the EEPROM version is not the same and the BIOS could not be downgraded. Is there any danger of ruining the mobo doing the downgrade via the floppy disk? Thanks!

[michaellundmark]

Does P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2004-G0-45nm-Edition (Modified by lawrywild) Bios work with Q6600 G0 stepping?
Why is this bios good, what is the changes?

[lawrywild]

Yes it does.

It's good because it works fine, there are no bugs in it and it is based on an official bios that everyone liked.

[Creek Tha Gray]

i have had issues on this mobo going over 3.1ghz stable 1.02g rev board have a Asus Maximus Formula (Special Edition) and will have all the same hardware will post when setup in about 2 to 3 weeks.

[rotNdude]

So, what BIOS do you recommend for a QX6700 if you want to raise the multiplier?

[GLENBOY]

So, what BIOS do you recommend for a QX6700 if you want to raise the multiplier?


bios 1601 was the last ones to offer the upward multiplier on qx6700 , i found when i had qx6700 keep the fsb under 300 , i think i used the 12 and 13 multiplier mostly

[insaneninjaguy]

I have read though lawrywild opening post and many other post though out.
I am not new to building pcs. ive been building my own back to the 486DX4s. This is my first build i have tried to overclock.

I am currently running a E6420 B2 with a fsb at 400MHz sense May of 07. http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=200200
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=253218

but the highset i been able to push it is 405 stable any higher its freezes in the middle of a Prime95 or Super PI or after desktop has loaded. my concern is that my ram is what holding it back Corsair XMS2 CM2X-6400C4 DDR800.
If i left that ram Linked to the fsb it would be at DDR2 1000 but no matter what CAS# or (x)T command rate setting the computer would not post.

mainly my question here is "what would be the best 2GB Kit that would allow a higher fsb?"

Specs are in Sign.

[Falkentyne]

So is it confirmed that 1.04+ versions of this board *are* more stable with overclocking Quads than 1.02 or 1.03g?

[Snake_Eyes]

So is it confirmed that 1.04+ versions of this board *are* more stable with overclocking Quads than 1.02 or 1.03g?
Good question yeah, i wanna know that to.
I got the 1.04 Rev.

[Lurker246]

So is it confirmed that 1.04+ versions of this board *are* more stable with overclocking Quads than 1.02 or 1.03g?

I'll have a quad Q6600 running on a 1.03g next week (Waiting on graphics card), I'll keep you posted on the results. Planning on running Lawry's 2004 bios on it.

As long as it will hit 333 X 9 I'll be happy http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif
:up:

[Snake_Eyes]

I got my Q6600 G0 today its the L728A826
Hopely its a good overclock one..

[w2richwood]

yeah i have the 103g myself would also like to know
Rich

[lawrywild]

1.02G and running 333x9 with 4x1GB perfectly.

[Creek Tha Gray]

i was able to run 333x9 but had miner stable issue mobo rev 1.02g and yes the 1.04 rev are able to go higher but now i have a asus maximus formula SE on the way with a q6700 G0 step and I Now have water cooling for the cpu the HD2900xt and the chipset so so long to the p5w dh

with the new mobo and cpu I will be going for 400x10 for 4ghz club

[crishan]

@lawrywild:

I was wondering if you could also modify the 2103 BIOS, which seems to be the
last one before Asus started introducing quirks into the P5W DH BIOSes.

Looking at the release dates from the BIOSes, I am also wondering what they
are doing or if they are even doing anything at all:
The 2302 beta is from the middle of August; Don't they have engineers working
on the board anymore?

[Snake_Eyes]

Running my Q6600 G0 L728A826 @ 3,0 Ghz
I have set the Vcore on Auto in the bios on my Asus P5W DH Deluxe
Prime running about a our and no errors so far.
But on what Vcore can i run 3Ghz ?
The Vcore are now 1,26v but i wanna try it lower to check if it are stable to
CPU temps are stressed now 50 50 49 49 with a Arctic Freezer 7 Pro.

[lawrywild]

@lawrywild:

I was wondering if you could also modify the 2103 BIOS, which seems to be the
last one before Asus started introducing quirks into the P5W DH BIOSes.

Looking at the release dates from the BIOSes, I am also wondering what they
are doing or if they are even doing anything at all:
The 2302 beta is from the middle of August; Don't they have engineers working
on the board anymore?

There's no point in doing that. It already supports G0.

[IcemaN22]

Hi. When SPD is on (CL 5-6-6-18) everything works fine, but when I turn spd off and use for example Cl 6-6-6-20 the pc wont start :mad:
Some ideas how I fix this? I want to try CL4 or very low CL5.
Here is how cpu-z looks like:

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/2443/cctz1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Snake_Eyes]

Heyy all
I wanna let you see this.
I dont understand that i dont see higher scores as this by other users.
My cpu i have clocked to 3,15Ghz with a 1,26 Vcore. and my 8800GTS 320 @ 630/950..

http://members.home.nl/knight-rider-1982/Programmas/3DMark06%20Q6600%20@%203,15%208800GTS%20@%20630-950.JPG

Who get this score to, or maybe more ?
I think this is not bad or not ?

[michaellundmark]

There's no point in doing that. It already supports G0.

On Asus homepage it´s written that Bios from 2205 and up supports Q6600