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Polynikes
08-16-2007, 12:29 PM
OK, I knew there had to be something wrong there. I've never heard of temps that low on any watercooling kit. My own kit has some of the best parts on the market right now and I get nowhere near those temps.
Now, if it was 35 F in the room, it might be possible. ;)
~aoe~
08-16-2007, 12:40 PM
This is a nice link (http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/221745-29-core-temperature-guide) that gives some useful background info on C2D temps and how to interpret them.
However, my favourite quote is from MaxxxRacer's Water-cooling guide (leak testing):
Final Notes About Your New System
This section is to address one point that seems to escape most users and has been a point of much frustration: onboard temperature sensors.
When many people upgrade to watercooling, the first thing they do is run to smartgaurdian, MBM5, or whatever temperature monitoring software they use, and see if their temps improved compared to their previous air cooling setup. While I can’t stop you from doing this, I can inform you about those so-called temperature sensors. Plain and simple, they are useless. They can be up to 10C off and are NEVER accurate. Yes, I said never. So please do not rely on the onboard sensors for CPU temperature readings. Furthermore, many CPU temperature diodes are affected by air movement around the CPU. The more air movement (ala: Thermaltake TT w/ 220CFM delta fan) the lower the reported CPU temperature, regardless of what the actual CPU temperature is.
At this point you are probably wondering what is causing the inaccurate readings. Your first guess is the software. Dam those software engineers. WRONG.. Your next thought goes to the CPU manufacturer.. Your getting warmer, but Intel/AMD are only part of the problem. Yes, you guessed right now. It’s the motherboard manufacturer. That is indeed correct. Motherboard manufacturers use IC's (integrated circuits) from various companies, to monitor temperature and voltage. Depending on which IC they use, it may have absolutely horrid accuracy, or high accuracy. However, there is another factor. While a particular IC may be of high quality and have the capability to display highly accurate voltages, the IC temps/voltages still MUST be calibrated. This is where the system starts to crumble. To my knowledge there has never been an accurate temp/voltage reading ever reported from a motherboard. This is because the motherboard manufacturers simply will NOT take the time to calibrate the IC's they use with a known standard.
So the next time you look at your temperature monitoring software, please remember what I have said, and all but disregard the useless numbers it reports to you.
After so much frustration trying to resolve my own temps with my current system, the above post made me feel so much better :up:
aledsav1
08-16-2007, 12:48 PM
OK, I knew there had to be something wrong there. I've never heard of temps that low on any watercooling kit. My own kit has some of the best parts on the market right now and I get nowhere near those temps.
Now, if it was 35 F in the room, it might be possible. ;)
This is a nice link (http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/221745-29-core-temperature-guide) that gives some useful background info on C2D temps and how to interpret them.
However, my favourite quote is from MaxxxRacer's Water-cooling guide (leak testing):
After so much frustration trying to resolve my own temps with my current system, the above post made me feel so much better :up:
right now we know where we stand???? so any reading could and most probably is meaningless. still as i have know found out that i add 15c to my (pointless) temp readings due to tj being 100 and coretemp reporting tj85 does this mean i can have temps higher than i would normally not want to go near?
aledsav1
08-16-2007, 12:51 PM
Oh just to add wasn't going to lap e6750 due to fantastic low temps ha! looks like i will be losing a bit of skin now.
gwolfman
08-16-2007, 12:54 PM
I'll have a go at trying to explain, but not sure I'm qualified...
Your skin emits liquid (sweat) which, when air passes over it, creates a cooling effect (due to evaporation of the liquid). This is why the air coming into the case 'feels' cooler (it's moving and passing over your skin).
The radiator fins don't emit a liquid (hopefully), and therefore does not cool by evaporation.
The reason the tubes feel cool is that they are cooler than your body temp (body temp ~37C).
It is possible in humid conditions that water condenses on the radiator, which would then assist the cooling effect (by evaporation), possibly allowing your temps to fall slightly below ambient. However, we're only talking 1-2C here at most.
:up: Well put! :up:
Polynikes
08-16-2007, 01:00 PM
Don't worry, aledsav1, your temps are fine. Even if they were waaaay off, which I'm sure they're not, you've got to be fine because you're watercooling. (That is, provided your pump is still running. ;D)
~aoe~
08-16-2007, 01:20 PM
Well, I spent a lot of time trying to resolve the inconsistencies between my temps after reading the guide linked above. Then I recently read the quote above, and, as I say, started to feel much better about things.
Based on everything I have read so far, my take is this:
The temps reported by all these software tools are useful as an indication only, but we have to accept that they are, in all probability, not accurate, as the sensors themselves have probably not been calibrated to provide an accurate measurement. However, poor calibration shouldn't (in theory) make the readings totally unreliable (there must be a tolerance that the suppliers of the sensors work to, and that tolerance cannot/should not be excessive - be nice to know what those tolerances are :rolleyes: )
At the end of the day, system stability is the most important (only?) factor in determining whether the OC is acceptable. Saying that, as many of us are pushing our systems to the limits, then extreme temps could severely reduce the lifespan of the CPU and other components.
Also taking into account that it is very difficult to get a reliably-calibrated temp sensor into a suitable position to record the accurate temps, and also considering that the CPU specifications are again based on tolerances - well, there are so many variables that it's difficult to provide an informed opinion.
At the end of the day, I would say that, if you're prepared to OC your system to the max, then component lifespan is not a major issue - just system stability. If you can maintain a stable system, then it's more likely that you will replace the components before they fail.
~aoe~
08-16-2007, 01:21 PM
Don't worry, aledsav1, your temps are fine. Even if they were waaaay off, which I'm sure they're not, you've got to be fine because you're watercooling. (That is, provided your pump is still running. ;D)
I agree :)
Polynikes
08-16-2007, 01:52 PM
At the end of the day, I would say that, if you're prepared to OC your system to the max, then component lifespan is not a major issue - just system stability. If you can maintain a stable system, then it's more likely that you will replace the components before they fail.
Considering the fact that modern computer hardware is theoretically capable of lasting for decades, overclocking, even heavily, will not reduce the lifespan of the hardware long enough for anyone to actually notice. Most people do major upgrades (mobo/cpu) every 3 years or less, so the chances of overclocking killing a component in that timeframe are almost nil. But hey, I may be wrong. I've been overclocking for a few system build cycles and have never had a part fail me.
jkresh
08-16-2007, 11:12 PM
I was planning on running my go q6600 on a gigabyte 680i board, but as that has been a complete disaster (could not get it too boot consistently and it killed some of my ocz ram, without overclocking). I am going to run it in my p5wdh at least until x38 boards are out.
What bios is recommended for q6600 overclocking? I have done a search and have not seen an overall recommended bios, more of a couple of people having success with some and nothing terribly consistent.
holwill
08-16-2007, 11:17 PM
Just a quick question for the guys using watercooling and pushing 400fsb or above, how many of you are using the small Asus fan that clips on the mosfet cooler? Only reason I ask this is because, I have been for the last 12 months, but now find myself needing to add a PA120.1 to the intake fan of my case(v2000) so it will obscure that area meaning I can no longer use it. Should I be worried and add a small 40mm fan somehow or just forget about it, as it will be fine with nothing added?
BulldogPO
08-17-2007, 02:12 AM
I do´nt have that little fan added. Everything works well.
Those mosfets do´nt even get warm.
splicer225
08-17-2007, 02:47 AM
Hi there,
I've been using a P5W DH for a year or so and I've never really had any issues with it until recently. I've got an E6420 which was running no problems for quite a few months. For the past few weeks I've been running it with a gentle overclock - I just upped the FSB to 333 (2.66Ghz) and the memory (4 sticks of 1 GB Corsair XMS2 PC5400) was running at 670Mhz or so. Again, everything running absolutely fine. I added an X-fi card and everything was working fine and then I soon started getting frequent lockups during the POST. They aren't lock ups per se, just extremely slow posting. It used to take around a minute to POST (yes, I know that's too long as it is) but now it appears to be taking longer and longer. After it says 4096MB OK it just hangs there from anywhere between 2 and 6 minutes before it continues on to loading Windows. If I keep restarting the computer, I can sustain the overclock (with the 2+ minute POST) however once I turn off the computer and then switch it on again I get an Overvoltage/Overclock error. I don't think there is an actual problem with the overclock - I can play games/run Orthos for extended periods absolutely fine - it is just getting past the POST which is the issue. Even if I can boot with 2.7Ghz, then Windows and everything on it runs perfectly normal.
I've tried BIOS 2206 and have now downgraded to 2004 after reading this thread, but am still getting the hangs. I've tried messing around with voltages, but none of them seem to work and I get the same issues. The problem is quite intermittent - it may successfully boot on some occasions, in other occasions I'll need to restart, in other occasions I'll need to unplug and replug the machine. One thing I was thinking is could it possibly be a power supply issue? I have an Enermax 500W and a Radeon 2900XT which I understand is fairly power hungry (but it was working perfectly fine previously). Although, the slow POST still exists at stock speeds/voltages. I think (well hoping) that I'm doing something fundamentally wrong here in the BIOS settings but I can't for the life of me figure out what it could possibly be. I have Vcore set to 1.35v (tried everything up to 1.37), memory voltage I've tried 1.8 - 1.95v, and I have Vmch and the ICH voltage (I could be getting these names wrong) at 1.05v and 1.20v if my memory serves me correctly. After clearing the CMOS as soon as I do anything in regards to memory timings, the slow post begins again. I've disabled HyperPath (problems exists with it on and off) and also all fan control options in the BIOS. Is there anything else I could try? Or is my board slowly dying do you think? And if it is, will I even be able to get an RMA for it since the problem is intermittent and unpredictable dependent on the settings for my devices (the e-tailer I bought it from are notoriously bad and inconsistent when it comes to support - I didn't know this when I bought the board!).
Sorry if this sounds all very incoherent, I'm not very technically minded when it comes to overclocking or anything. But I would really appreciate any help someone could throw at me. Many, many thanks in advance! Cheers.
~aoe~
08-17-2007, 03:57 AM
One possible cause for slow POSTing is problems detecting peripherals (specifically HDDs in my experience).
If you have multiple HDDs, try disconnecting each one and booting to POST. You could also try connecting to different ports.
If using IDE, also check connections and jumper settings on the devices.
palito
08-17-2007, 04:59 AM
wats the best Bios ?
From the first page of this thread:
Extremely slow POST - Disable everything to do with fans in "Hardware Monitor". [Credit - OBR]
splicer225
08-17-2007, 05:46 AM
I've already tried to disable all fan control options and have added each device one by one and seen if it has some sort of effect on the POST speed . The only thing that increases the POST speed is when overclocking (and it does so dramatically). Even by just manually setting my RAM timings to 4-4-4-12 (which is the speed they are supposed to run at). Without overclocking anything else, or changing any other settings - that will lead to slow POST.
aledsav1
08-17-2007, 06:22 AM
wats the best Bios ?
Just to ask same question....from users experience what has been best bios...most overclockable? ta
MarcusTaz
08-17-2007, 06:27 AM
running stock 2004 bios fine, stable and I yield 3.4GHz on a Q6600 B3
gwolfman
08-17-2007, 07:12 AM
I've already tried to disable all fan control options and have added each device one by one and seen if it has some sort of effect on the POST speed . The only thing that increases the POST speed is when overclocking (and it does so dramatically). Even by just manually setting my RAM timings to 4-4-4-12 (which is the speed they are supposed to run at). Without overclocking anything else, or changing any other settings - that will lead to slow POST.
Maybe it's your memory then...? You have any other sitting around you can try? If not, then pull all but one stick out and try booting, see how it goes. Try and eliminate possibilities one by one.
I am running bios 2205. My Problem is one that many Vista users are suffering from right now. I get the atikmdag error when running 3D intensive games. This error causes black or flickering screens followed by a bubble in the task tray telling you that a display driver has stopped responding and has been recovered.
TDR Explained (http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/display/wddm_timeout.mspx)
This problem isn't just ati or nvidia it's both:
ATI (http://www.driverheaven.net/vista-radeon-display-drivers/133188-vista-7-3-display-driver-atikmdag-stopped-responding-error.html)
Nvidia (http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=25381&st=1900)
Some people have had success when they sync or link their ram. I didn't see that option in the bios anywhere. Is running the fsb and ram in a 1:1 ratio the same thing as syncing?(And if so what options do I go into to make that happen for DDR2 800 Ram?)
splicer225
08-17-2007, 01:20 PM
I think I've fixed my slow POST problems, thanks very much guys. Carefully reinstalled the RAM modules and it seems to be a lot speeder/stable now. Cheers!
In regards to the ATIKMDAG error I don't get that in any games, but I get it whenever I try to run Windows Dreamscene (a moving background - literally just playing a video). I never used to get it with my old ATI card (X1600) but I get it now each time I try to run it with my new card (2900XT).
hey guys. i've recently built my first pc with the p5w, and everything has been fine up to this point. when i came to install all the drivers, i haven't been able to do it for the ethernet, wifi and remote drivers. all 3 come up with the error message "error:5 - cannot execute..." with the location of the setup executable file for the corresponding driver. this is probably a really simple issue, but i can't for the life of me figure out what's wrong. any help is much appreciated.
tom
gwolfman
08-17-2007, 03:28 PM
Maybe it's your memory then...? You have any other sitting around you can try? If not, then pull all but one stick out and try booting, see how it goes. Try and eliminate possibilities one by one.
I think I've fixed my slow POST problems, thanks very much guys. Carefully reinstalled the RAM modules and it seems to be a lot speeder/stable now. Cheers!
Ahh, so I was right. Cool, glad it's fixed!
rafaeldb
08-17-2007, 08:59 PM
The 4 gb question again :)
No just kidding but its about the 4gb, I know from reading this huge thread that only XP or Vista 64 can see more than 3072 but I was planning on using Vista 64 for when I need to work with more ram and keep using Vista 32 until the 64v gets more support. My question is there any problem or harm for my ram when I'm on vista 32 (for most of the time)?
Thx
MarcusTaz
08-17-2007, 09:35 PM
No, I use both x86 and x64 and even though x86 will only report 3072 the remaining mem is still used you just cannot see it. As far as compatability x64 runs everything I throw at it except for a few old programs that are well really old....
Good luck....
bichi
08-17-2007, 10:14 PM
adding to MarcusTaz reply:
- run both XP SP2 (32b) and Vista Ultimate (64b), by swapping OS drives
- usually leave 4gB RAM installed, unless testing OC's
- side effects for me are: 1) more power usage 2) less OC (3.3g vs 3.2g)
- get 3.2gB usable RAM under 32b OS
- otherwise, no other negative side effects running 32b OS with 4gB RAM
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2052878&postcount=4178
rafaeldb
08-17-2007, 10:15 PM
No, I use both x86 and x64 and even though x86 will only report 3072 the remaining mem is still used you just cannot see it. As far as compatability x64 runs everything I throw at it except for a few old programs that are well really old....
Good luck....
What you mean its being used? I just installed Vista 64 in a second partition to check it out and thought about doing the same thing, throw Vista 32 out and stick with 64, but I read a lot about poor performance with games :(
How is the 32 bit apps performance on vista 64?
Ragdd
08-18-2007, 05:21 AM
Is it normal when you activate AHCI in bios for the JMicron SATA-port, that the Jmicron PATA-port is disabled?
sesdave
08-18-2007, 03:31 PM
If any of you are thinking of installing Vista x64 in a seperate partition you may find this general Vista information I previously posted of use.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2331844&postcount=5310
Take note that a recent Vista x64 update patch has disabled the ability to permenantly disable driver signing which can be a pain. If you google for info you can identify which KB and either dont install it or uninstall it if already applied. Apart from that I am getting to quite like Vista x64 now that I have made it more like winxp - lol! It definately likes 4Gb or more of memory but so far no problems with games or applications.
Ragdd
08-18-2007, 04:28 PM
My friend bought an new Asus P5W DH Deluxe 1.04G board and an Intel C2D E6850. Memory is 2GB OCZ DDR2 667 Mhz dualchannel.
With the stock 2004 bios, the computer booted, but gave an micro-code error. He updated with the EZ-update deature the bios to version 2103 which supports the new cpu.
He had the problem that the FSB is only working at 1066 Mhz and not 1333 Mhz. He even tried the 2206 bios.
Two problemes.
1) PC won't post after warm reboot.
Can only use power on and off button.
2) FSB is running at 1066 Mhz instead of 1333 Mhz.
How can you change the FSB in the bios?
FSB is set in bios to 333 Mhz
Memory to 667 Mhz with 1.9 volt and 4-4-4-12 timings.
rafaeldb
08-18-2007, 05:13 PM
If any of you are thinking of installing Vista x64 in a seperate partition you may find this general Vista information I previously posted of use.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2331844&postcount=5310
Take note that a recent Vista x64 update patch has disabled the ability to permenantly disable driver signing which can be a pain. If you google for info you can identify which KB and either dont install it or uninstall it if already applied. Apart from that I am getting to quite like Vista x64 now that I have made it more like winxp - lol! It definately likes 4Gb or more of memory but so far no problems with games or applications.
The only thing holding me back to stay with vista 64 only is gaming, I don't play games that much but I enjoy occasionally, plus I'm a little bit worried about my 32 bit apps performance, I got 4gb mainly for Maya and 3D studio, but I will use a lot of Photoshop, after effects and Premeier, softwares that dont support 64 bit yet.
I have one more question, I read bichi post and he mentions something about setting your maxmem, after that I went to the ms site that he had a link and there they have a command 3gb where I could tell windows to use the other 1gb for the kernel. what is the advantage of that?
bichi
08-18-2007, 07:30 PM
I have one more question, I read bichi post and he mentions something about setting your maxmem, after that I went to the ms site that he had a link and there they have a command 3gb where I could tell windows to use the other 1gb for the kernel. what is the advantage of that?
from Boot INI Options Reference:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/information/bootini.mspx
/3GB
Increases the size of the user process address space from 2 GB to 3 GB (and therefore reduces the size of system space from 2 GB to 1 GB). Giving virtual-memory- intensive applications such as database servers a larger address space can improve their performance. For an application to take advantage of this feature, however, two additional conditions must be met: the system must be running Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, Windows NT 4 Enterprise Edition, Windows 2000 Advanced Server or Datacenter Server and the application .exe must be flagged as a 3-GB-aware application. Applies to 32-bit systems only.
/MAXMEM=
Limits Windows to ignore (not use) physical memory beyond the amount indicated. The number is interpreted in megabytes. Example: /MAXMEM=32 would limit the system to using the first 32 MB of physical memory even if more were present.
Experimented with above switches, mostly for gaining stability of scientific applications, as opposed to server and enterprise types.
- did not find any advantage with "/3GB" switch with "sci apps" that I use at home
- experimented with same switch with Sony Vegae 7.0e NLE and still did not find any advantage
- "MAXMEM" was interesting, guessing less opcode overhead, if more than 3+gB RAM installed
- did not find any advantage either (but I do leave /MAXMEM=3072 set when 4gB RAM installed, too lazy to switch when changing RAM configuration)
I just upgraded from E6600 at 3.6Ghz to Q6600 G0 at 3.1 Ghz.
I can't get stability with Q6600 any higher than 3.15 Ghz (350 FSB) no matter what settings I use in the bios.
My P5WDH is the old model (1.65v MCH) with 2206 Beta bios.
Any suggestions welcome.
By the way, the 8x multiplier doesn't work. Not that I care about that.
sesdave
08-19-2007, 03:00 AM
I just upgraded from E6600 at 3.6Ghz to Q6600 G0 at 3.1 Ghz.
I can't get stability with Q6600 any higher than 3.15 Ghz (350 FSB) no matter what settings I use in the bios.
My P5WDH is the old model (1.65v MCH) with 2206 Beta bios.
Any suggestions welcome.
By the way, the 8x multiplier doesn't work. Not that I care about that.
If its volts holding you back on that revision of board you could try this MCH pencil mod (and the rest if you needs them) to get more volts for MCH,DRAM etc http://sg.vr-zone.com/?i=3876. If all else fails I can recommend the P5K premium that I upgraded to from the P5W DH as a great o/c board to get the most out of GO CPUs and memory.
As of right here and right now whats the best bios to use for clocking and every day use?
Not a clue what i got at the moment but she a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: at times, but i'm @ 3.5Ghz with a super pi of 14.500
holwill
08-19-2007, 06:52 AM
As of right here and right now whats the best bios to use for clocking and every day use?
Not a clue what i got at the moment but she a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: at times, but i'm @ 3.5Ghz with a super pi of 14.500
We meet again lol! 2004 works fine for me 400 daily,425 seems to be the limit on my board.
Ragdd
08-19-2007, 07:02 AM
"My friend bought an new Asus P5W DH Deluxe 1.04G board and an Intel C2D E6850. Memory is 2GB OCZ DDR2 667 Mhz dualchannel.
With the stock 2004 bios, the computer booted, but gave an micro-code error. He updated with the EZ-update deature the bios to version 2103 which supports the new cpu.
He had the problem that the FSB is only working at 1066 Mhz and not 1333 Mhz. He even tried the 2206 bios.
Two problemes.
1) PC won't post after warm reboot.
Can only use power on and off button.
2) FSB is running at 1066 Mhz instead of 1333 Mhz.
How can you change the FSB in the bios?
FSB is set in bios to 333 Mhz
Memory to 667 Mhz with 1.9 volt and 4-4-4-12 timings."
Solved by disable Hyperpath 3 in bios.
w2richwood
08-19-2007, 08:52 AM
nice clock pete im waiting to get a new cooler my self then maybe i'll get more and 2004 bios works good for me with ae6400 es chip
We meet again lol! 2004 works fine for me 400 daily,425 seems to be the limit on my board.
Indeed we do. 2004 eh. Okay i'll have a look and see.
nice clock pete im waiting to get a new cooler my self then maybe i'll get more and 2004 bios works good for me with ae6400 es chip
Yeah not too bad, will have better cooling soon. Okay looks like 2004 is the one to use.
@ 404 FSB currently!
1707 is what was on the bord. Now have 2004 on there, took forever to get the prog to flash as Asus's website down, bit torrent for the win!
It seams kinda happy enough for such a crap bord
Chrysalis
08-20-2007, 07:19 AM
Is it normal when you activate AHCI in bios for the JMicron SATA-port, that the Jmicron PATA-port is disabled?
Yeah seems to be, the same happened to me.
Killnine
08-20-2007, 07:26 AM
I have a 1.02G version of the board (is this 1.65 vMCH?).
I wanted to do the pencil mod for vDroop but the pictures on VR are for the 1.0G, which has a different resistor arrangement.
Can anyone take a picture of their board (I think the 1.04G is the same as mine) with this pencil mod? I would be forever grateful!
ALSO -- I just got a Q6600, should I use the latest bios (22XX) or should I use those modded bios (2004?) that are for G0 and 45nm chips?
EJTREM3
08-20-2007, 08:25 AM
I just upgraded from E6600 at 3.6Ghz to Q6600 G0 at 3.1 Ghz.
I can't get stability with Q6600 any higher than 3.15 Ghz (350 FSB) no matter what settings I use in the bios.
My P5WDH is the old model (1.65v MCH) with 2206 Beta bios.
Any suggestions welcome.
By the way, the 8x multiplier doesn't work. Not that I care about that.
i have the same problem
i need change board? or exist another solution?
I am running bios 2205. My Problem is one that many Vista users are suffering from right now. I get the atikmdag error when running 3D intensive games. This error causes black or flickering screens followed by a bubble in the task tray telling you that a display driver has stopped responding and has been recovered.
TDR Explained (http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/display/wddm_timeout.mspx)
This problem isn't just ati or nvidia it's both:
ATI (http://www.driverheaven.net/vista-radeon-display-drivers/133188-vista-7-3-display-driver-atikmdag-stopped-responding-error.html)
Nvidia (http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=25381&st=1900)
Some people have had success when they sync or link their ram. I didn't see that option in the bios anywhere. Is running the fsb and ram in a 1:1 ratio the same thing as syncing?(And if so what options do I go into to make that happen for DDR2 800 Ram?)
Thanks for the replies sesdave & EJTREM3.
I think I'm going to buy an Asus P5K-E WIFI to replace the P5WDH for overclocking the Q6600 G0 until the X38 chipset motherboards come out.
The Deluxe and Premiums are a lot more expensive.
Any thoughts appreciated?
EJTREM3
08-20-2007, 10:02 AM
i considered to buy a less cheaper motherboard, like gigabyte p35 ds3p or abit ip35 pro
I had the infamous Gigabyte 8IRXP as recommended by Tom's Hardware as the world's first board to achieve 3Ghz. What Tom failed to mention (because it would have made his achievement less spectacular) was the board had a major reboot problem when overclocked.
No more Gigabyte for me.
My friend has had a couple of Abit boards die.
So I've been buying Asus.
MarcusTaz
08-20-2007, 11:04 AM
I have a 1.02G version of the board (is this 1.65 vMCH?).
I wanted to do the pencil mod for vDroop but the pictures on VR are for the 1.0G, which has a different resistor arrangement.
Can anyone take a picture of their board (I think the 1.04G is the same as mine) with this pencil mod? I would be forever grateful!
ALSO -- I just got a Q6600, should I use the latest bios (22XX) or should I use those modded bios (2004?) that are for G0 and 45nm chips?
The OEM 2004 bios works fine for my B3 steping Q6600 but I know Larry put up his modded bios that works fine from what I have read...
EJTREM3
08-20-2007, 11:06 AM
i have gigabyte in the pass and its very well motherboard. i love it.
i think its better por ocing then asus.
gwolfman
08-20-2007, 11:53 AM
...its very well motherboard. i love it.
i think its better por ocing then asus.
You speak Spanish don't you? ( por = for ) I do as well. When I read your post I totally understood it as I translated it opposed to thinking it was a typo. Until I read it two or three times to see what didn't seem right. :)
Killnine
08-20-2007, 01:15 PM
I have a 1.02G version of the board (is this 1.65 vMCH?).
I wanted to do the pencil mod for vDroop but the pictures on VR are for the 1.0G, which has a different resistor arrangement.
Can anyone take a picture of their board (I think the 1.04G is the same as mine) with this pencil mod? I would be forever grateful!
ALSO -- I just got a Q6600, should I use the latest bios (22XX) or should I use those modded bios (2004?) that are for G0 and 45nm chips?
EJTREM3
08-20-2007, 01:29 PM
You speak Spanish don't you? ( por = for ) I do as well. When I read your post I totally understood it as I translated it opposed to thinking it was a typo. Until I read it two or three times to see what didn't seem right. :)
sorry my english its too bad, i speak spanish.
Ragdd
08-21-2007, 01:04 AM
Oralee carnal
Vatos Locos for ever
Simon :D
EJTREM3
08-21-2007, 08:52 AM
lol
go back to the thread, i hope change tomorrow to another motherboard, one Evga 680i A1
roger_h99.nor
08-21-2007, 08:58 AM
wtf?
Looks like Asus have pulled the bioses since ver. 2004. 2206 is still to be found on the ftp server.
(not that i realy care..)
w2richwood
08-21-2007, 10:42 AM
finelly those bios were not good how many people miss there bios up using them about time
wtf?
Looks like Asus have pulled the bioses since ver. 2004
Whoahhhhhh......
w2richwood
08-21-2007, 12:07 PM
ginnie pig bios lol
gwolfman
08-21-2007, 12:32 PM
sorry my english its too bad, i speak spanish.
It's not bad, it was just funny.
Oralee carnal
Vatos Locos for ever
Simon :D
Lol.
What processors are u guys running?
wtf?
Looks like Asus have pulled the bioses since ver. 2004. 2206 is still to be found on the ftp server.
(not that i realy care..)
So, it means P5W DH doesn't officially support G0 processors?!
w2richwood
08-21-2007, 03:23 PM
i have a e6400 es with 2004 bios so it dont bother me. but i may want to get a later chip who knows now the board dosent suport the newer 1333 chips
EJTREM3
08-21-2007, 03:41 PM
no more problems with this board for me.
today i sold this board :D
What its the best option in board to buy, i see a giga p35 ds3p or abit ip35, or i wait to x38boards ?
in 2004 bios a have cpucode error , so 2206(beta) is ok. so far
Q6600. mobo 1.02G version p5w dh
I am running bios 2205. My Problem is one that many Vista users are suffering from right now. I get the atikmdag error when running 3D intensive games. This error causes black or flickering screens followed by a bubble in the task tray telling you that a display driver has stopped responding and has been recovered.
TDR Explained (http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/display/wddm_timeout.mspx)
This problem isn't just ati or nvidia it's both:
ATI (http://www.driverheaven.net/vista-radeon-display-drivers/133188-vista-7-3-display-driver-atikmdag-stopped-responding-error.html)
Nvidia (http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=25381&st=1900)
Some people have had success when they sync or link their ram. I didn't see that option in the bios anywhere. Is running the fsb and ram in a 1:1 ratio the same thing as syncing?(And if so what options do I go into to make that happen for DDR2 800 Ram?)
MarcusTaz
08-21-2007, 05:24 PM
Never got that problem once.... But then again I install every hotfix I get my hands on...
Never got that problem once.... But then again I install every hotfix I get my hands on...
I have installed every hotfix I can find as well,as have multiple people who are having this issue. Including KB940105 which is the memory management fix.
sesdave
08-22-2007, 02:12 AM
I have a 1.02G version of the board (is this 1.65 vMCH?).
I wanted to do the pencil mod for vDroop but the pictures on VR are for the 1.0G, which has a different resistor arrangement.
Can anyone take a picture of their board (I think the 1.04G is the same as mine) with this pencil mod? I would be forever grateful!
ALSO -- I just got a Q6600, should I use the latest bios (22XX) or should I use those modded bios (2004?) that are for G0 and 45nm chips?
Previously posted by Lawrywild. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2342383&postcount=5444
Hopefully its your board layout.
Ragdd
08-22-2007, 03:36 AM
This board support the 1333 Mhz Core2 Duo processors.
My friend (and me later on) have the Intel E6850 processor 3.0 Ghz and 1333 FSB). Installed memory is OCZ Gold PC2 5400 dualchannel @ 4-4-4-12
If you have an Asus P5W DH board with a bios earlier than the 2103 version, it give a microcode error during boot, but you can bootup to flash it.
Just install bios version 2103 or higher with the EZ-Flash feature.
In the bios, one setting have to be turned off and that is the Hyperpath3 option.
This board support the 1333 Mhz Core2 Duo processors.
My friend (and me later on) have the Intel E6850 processor 3.0 Ghz and 1333 FSB). Installed memory is OCZ Gold PC2 5400 dualchannel @ 4-4-4-12
If you have an Asus P5W DH board with a bios earlier than the 2103 version, it give a microcode error during boot, but you can bootup to flash it.
Just install bios version 2103 or higher with the EZ-Flash feature.
In the bios, one setting have to be turned off and that is the Hyperpath3 option.
Yes, I know that, but you couldn't find bios version higher than 2004 on official asus site, anymore.
So what BIOS do we need to run G0 Steppings?
Larrys 2004 thats been modded as you guys say 2004 it works well and larrys added G0 stuff should help?
new beta bios 2301
http://rapidshare.com/files/50583926/2301.zip
new beta bios 2301
http://rapidshare.com/files/50583926/2301.zip
For G0?
MarcusTaz
08-22-2007, 10:48 AM
new beta bios 2301
http://rapidshare.com/files/50583926/2301.zip
Confirmed beta bios is up will install tonight...
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/
astaris
08-22-2007, 11:50 AM
new beta bios 2301
http://rapidshare.com/files/50583926/2301.zip
Have you noticed some improvements with the q6600 overclock?
sesdave
08-22-2007, 12:52 PM
no more problems with this board for me.
today i sold this board :D
What its the best option in board to buy, i see a giga p35 ds3p or abit ip35, or i wait to x38boards ?
I upgraded to the Asus P5K Premium - it has all the BIOS options I need including all the missing memory settngs that Asus never included in the P5W Bios .http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2288294&postcount=361
Performs very stable on o/c due to increased quality and number of capacitors over P5K deluxe- not a lot of vdroop either. I can easily run the 4x1GB RAM upto 1200 with good timungs . Seems to get the best out of the GO processors and is ready for the 45mm. I would run higher but am limited by my cooling.
MarcusTaz
08-22-2007, 12:59 PM
no more problems with this board for me.
today i sold this board :D
What its the best option in board to buy, i see a giga p35 ds3p or abit ip35, or i wait to x38boards ?
At this point I would wait for the X38 to hit the shelves. They are not that long away according to reports I have read and some should have DDR2 support, the MSI to be specific again according to reports I have read...
GLENBOY
08-22-2007, 01:01 PM
At this point I would wait for the X38 to hit the shelves. They are not that long away according to reports I have read and some should have DDR2 support, the MSI to be specific again according to reports I have read...
i agree x38 is going to be a whole new ball park i would wait for one of these
Ragdd
08-22-2007, 01:44 PM
Succesor of the Asus P5W DH Deluxe motherbord (Intel 975X chipset)
Come's out end of next month
P5E3 Deluxe (Intel X38 Chipset)
http://www.hardware.info:80/nl-NL/news/ynCckpqawpya/Ook_ASUS_X38_in_zicht/
DDR3 support
No Intel PATA support
6 x SATA's connectors
2 x PCI-E x 16 slots (Crossfire)
2 x PCI-E x1 slots
3 x PCI slots
Gigabit network & high definition sound
bichi
08-22-2007, 01:50 PM
BIOS 2301
P5WDH, Rev 1.02G/66M0AG, QX6700 B3 @ 3.0g, 2gB PC-8800 RAM (details in sig)
- installed with EZFlash 2 and USB drive
- no obvious changes and operating nominally
- no new CPU code, compared to 2206, re., "G0" steppings (see clip below)
- no problems with settings remaining set
- internal 2301 BIOS date = 07/29/07 (2206 = 07/24/07)
P5WDH 2301: (Asus FTP)
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/2301.zip
bichi
08-22-2007, 02:04 PM
wtf?
Looks like Asus have pulled the bioses since ver. 2004. 2206 is still to be found on the ftp server.
- agreed, and to add to "strangeness," P5WDH CPU compatibility lists 2205 for "G0" steppings
- has happened in the past and probably have to wait a week or so, if its another ASUS site mistake....
What its the best option in board to buy, i see a giga p35 ds3p or abit ip35, or i wait to x38boards ?
At this point I would wait for the X38 to hit the shelves....
i agree x38 is going to be a whole new ball park i would wait for one of these
- I'm with these two fellow hayseeds and will wait for X38....
- provided DDR2 support is viable
- and prices are not totally wacked....
GLENBOY
08-22-2007, 03:40 PM
tried 2301 bios with older revision p5w board same issues with e6600 if bios entered vcore goes to auto and has the pci modem /multimedia detected on fresh reboot the newer bioses might be good for go but for the normal e6600/e6700 etc larrys modded 2004 bios is good and is compatible with the newer cpus
MarcusTaz
08-22-2007, 05:09 PM
Does Asus even montior this thread? What a bunch of n00bs that Larry's bios is still more compatible then the betas they release....
gwolfman
08-22-2007, 06:24 PM
BIOS 2301
P5WDH, Rev 1.02G/66M0AG, QX6700 B3 @ 3.0g, 2gB PC-8800 RAM (details in sig)
- installed with EZFlash 2 and USB drive
- no obvious changes and operating nominally
- no new CPU code, compared to 2206, re., "G0" steppings (see clip below)
- no problems with settings remaining set
- internal 2301 BIOS date = 07/29/07 (2206 = 07/24/07)
P5WDH 2301: (Asus FTP)
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/2301.zip
Does this BIOS have problems with the Audio staying enabled even after you disable it?
bichi
08-22-2007, 08:54 PM
Does this BIOS have problems with the Audio staying enabled even after you disable it?
- X-FI sound card installed, with audio setting disabled
- can't give you reliable answer, based on personal experience
jkresh
08-22-2007, 09:33 PM
I just swapped processors (and waterblocks) to a q6600 G0 and a fuzion. My board posts with bios 2004, says incorrect cpu microcode then freezes after a few seconds (enough to get into the bios but not see much and not enough to get to temperature settings). I hard mounted the fuzion so its possible its to tight or not tight enough (I have a backplate so board warping is not likely an issue). Its possible its a heat issue but the board should restart or shut off if its a heat issue shouldnt it?
Any suggestions on what to try outside of swapping back to the dual core (I have another board to try the quad in if I go back to the dual). And if i go back to the dual to update the bios, should I use the modified 2004, the 2205 or the 2206?
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Update!
I got it to post, still have hte incorrect microcode issue but it boots ok and seems stable (ran prime95 for about half an hour without errors (26C load according to pc probe), will play with it more tomorrow.)
I would still like a suggestion as to which bios to run (2004, modified 2004, 2205, 2206) for overclocking the quad. Again any suggestions or inputs from people who have a G0 on this board would be appreciated (though I am probably picking up an x38 board next month so I am not too worried about the oc at the moment).
d.chatten
08-23-2007, 03:21 AM
Does this BIOS have problems with the Audio staying enabled even after you disable it?
Bios 2301 still has the issue of the audio and serial port re-enabling them selves even tough they have been disabled in the bios, i've gone back to 2103 untill ASUS fix this issue.
When I have any usb devices plugged in on boot my system stalls at post for about a minute or so
Do the new bios' solve this
P5WDH, Rev 1.02G, BIOS is this new BETA 2301, CPU E6600.
CPU 1.6
RAM 2.4
NB 1.7
FSB and ICH all at MAx on bord BIOS volts
RAM 1:1 4-4-4-8-12
Read dealy is 7 via memset in Windows, I botted at stock clock 266.
I used Clock Gen and uped FSB to 270, clicked apply and it freezes.
Has been doing this everytime. This is the first time i have tried it at stock clock.
In clock gen i am setting the right PPL, ICS 954123 and am clicking read clocks, nothing more happens and i then click exit to close that part. Open PLL control and it's reading everything as it should be!
I have no idea whats doing it. Clockgen version is 1.0.5.3 latest off there site!
Have tried SET FSB only gave me a max of 307fsb which worked!
I also can via BIOS go all the way to 407mhz before it wont boot anymore.
Any ideas as the 6600 does do 3.8!
eblaster101
08-23-2007, 11:24 AM
can someone using this motherboard please tell us all what sort of overclock you guys are getting with q6600 g0.
regards
GLENBOY
08-23-2007, 11:25 AM
hiya pete on clockgen, you have to tick ignore gsb/pci on the pll setup if you haven't already done so
LUCI5R
08-23-2007, 12:04 PM
Does anyone know where I can get the latest Drivers for the ALC882M Realtek Audio on this motherboard?
hiya pete on clockgen, you have to tick ignore gsb/pci on the pll setup if you haven't already done so
Thank you! 3 forums i posted about the clock gen on and manny replys latter the 1st reply back to the question is with the answer and it works. I got to 419 then went to 421 and it froze! Guess it's my cooling. Tomorrow will have better. Just about to have a go at soldering some volt reading points, bord is modded already but i don't like finger between 2 GFX and probe waling over mobo.
gwolfman
08-23-2007, 12:58 PM
Bios 2301 still has the issue of the audio and serial port re-enabling them selves even tough they have been disabled in the bios, i've gone back to 2103 untill ASUS fix this issue.
Thanks, exactly what I wanted to know. :)
gwolfman
08-23-2007, 01:00 PM
P5WDH, Rev 1.02G, BIOS is this new BETA 2301, CPU E6600.
CPU 1.6
RAM 2.4
NB 1.7
FSB and ICH all at MAx on bord BIOS volts
RAM 1:1 4-4-4-8-12
Read dealy is 7 via memset in Windows, I botted at stock clock 266.
I used Clock Gen and uped FSB to 270, clicked apply and it freezes.
Has been doing this everytime. This is the first time i have tried it at stock clock.
In clock gen i am setting the right PPL, ICS 954123 and am clicking read clocks, nothing more happens and i then click exit to close that part. Open PLL control and it's reading everything as it should be!
I have no idea whats doing it. Clockgen version is 1.0.5.3 latest off there site!
Have tried SET FSB only gave me a max of 307fsb which worked!
I also can via BIOS go all the way to 407mhz before it wont boot anymore.
Any ideas as the 6600 does do 3.8!
Did you remember to lock the PCI and PCIe frequencies at 33.3 and 100?
Did you remember to lock the PCI and PCIe frequencies at 33.3 and 100?
In bios yeah?
Someone want to give me a low down on what i should do?
Saw a nice one for the DFI Dark bord and it helped everyone!
Just been figiting with it adding v read points on parts for the mods im ready for clocking it all weekened
GLENBOY
08-23-2007, 01:55 PM
Thank you! 3 forums i posted about the clock gen on and manny replys latter the 1st reply back to the question is with the answer and it works. I got to 419 then went to 421 and it froze! Guess it's my cooling. Tomorrow will have better. Just about to have a go at soldering some volt reading points, bord is modded already but i don't like finger between 2 GFX and probe waling over mobo.
glad you sorted it
purecain
08-23-2007, 03:44 PM
when i enable memory remapping to use 4gb in vista i get a BSOD in the first 5 minutes... took me a while to narrow it down to that perticular setting but i have to say its pissing me right off. updated to the latest bios and problem remains. Roll on X38....
splicer225
08-23-2007, 05:08 PM
Could be something to do with your X-Fi card? I've read countless people with Vista + 4GB + X-fi getting blue screens and all sorts of problems. I'm quite surprised that my X-fi appears to be working fine at the moment *touches wood*.
purecain
08-23-2007, 05:57 PM
oh well i forgot to mention, i'm having issues with audio on both this sound card(in sig) and an m-audio 2496... within 3d apps in both windows xp and vista 64bit. its sending me mad, its like an intermittant break in sound with all this digital violent niose drownding out everything else. it started this week and it nearly blew up my speakers.... i've still got to check my bass bins for tears thats how bad it is.... i've looked all over the net for a solution but i cant even find anyone else with the problem. this leads me to suspect its the motherboard itself. the actual hardware and not a bios update. the bios is the only other thing that has changed so i havnt ruled that out. but why hasnt anyone else reported having this problem.... i hope that x38 board comes out soon cos i think my board is on its way out....:(
MarcusTaz
08-23-2007, 06:30 PM
I have 4GB and an XFI card. try different PCI slots for the XFI, also I cannot use the mic on my XFI with this setup, rather my mic is with the onboard sound and sound is with the XFI, the only way I could get ventrilo to work correctly without me sounding like a robot...
Let's just hope Intel X38 does not do what nvidia did with the 680i and rob everyone's money... What a complete rip off overpriced chipset the 680i is, 400 + for a mobo, give me a friggin break....
jkresh
08-23-2007, 09:27 PM
I have 6gb and an xfi in vista 64, I have not had problems with blue screening after memory remapping. I have the xfi in the second pci slot if that helps (I also have the first revision of the board).
If you have performance memory it may need more then 1.8v to be stable at its usual setting, its possible that with remap off and less memory being used its ok at lower voltages but it needs more with remap turned on.
bichi
08-24-2007, 12:31 AM
P5WDH; BIOS 2301; Rev 1.02g/66MA0G; 2gB PC-8800 (details in sig)
- replaced QX6700 B3 with Q6700 G0, both at 3.0ghz
- lower power watts at 100% load, compared to QX6700 B3, about 36 watts less (measured with WattsUp Pro)
- lower 100% temps, about 16% less average, both CPU case and Core
- more tests soon.....
- no issues with BIOS settings sticking across multiple boots
[AHCI; (Audio, 1394, LAN ROM = disabled); FSB/MCH/ICH, ACPI, Q-FAN = disabled; Boot Priority, (QuickBoot, Full Screen NUMLOCK = disabled); etc...]
Q6700 - Retail - BX80562Q6700SLACQ - G0 - (Malaysia)
MM: 891332 - FPO/BATCH: L723A656 - PACK DATE: 07/20/07
Short 30min OCCT v1.1.1-b5 Test Results:
Does anyone know where I can get the latest Drivers for the ALC882M Realtek Audio on this motherboard?
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=14&PFid=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false
purecain
08-24-2007, 05:45 AM
i swapped out my B3 with a new G0 this week, updated the bios and cannot get vcore to stick, i keep on finding it back at auto so i cant bench.
as far as giving my ram more volts, no point its ran much faster with the same timings and volts its on now. it is underclocked at the moment to keep the ratio 1/1 with the cpu. upping the volts is something i did anyway just in case and of course it didnt work. they are getting 2.2v anyway....
the sound thing is doing my head in and now i have all the other hardware i have disabled being picked up everytime i boot.... asus need to get this bios fixed pronto....
oh yeah heres my G0 info.... L725B020 PACK DATE:08/16/07 very new indeed.....
GLENBOY
08-24-2007, 06:06 AM
i swapped out my B3 with a new G0 this week, updated the bios and cannot get vcore to stick, i keep on finding it back at auto so i cant bench.
as far as giving my ram more volts, no point its ran much faster with the same timings and volts its on now. it is underclocked at the moment to keep the ratio 1/1 with the cpu. upping the volts is something i did anyway just in case and of course it didnt work. they are getting 2.2v anyway....
the sound thing is doing my head in and now i have all the other hardware i have disabled being picked up everytime i boot.... asus need to get this bios fixed pronto....
oh yeah heres my G0 info.... L725B020 PACK DATE:08/16/07 very new indeed.....
hi there to get the vcore off auto go into the cpu configuation in the bios and just change one of the values then change it back then when you go on vcore you should be able to change the voltage then save reboot and it should stick but if you go in bios again it goes back to auto but if you don't go into bios it sticks, it did with me anyway, the found pci modem/multimedia player was also there with me very annoying i would personally use lawrys modded 2004 bios with the cpu codes for the go steppings
purecain
08-24-2007, 06:16 AM
cool thanks for the heads up...
FabricioGS
08-24-2007, 05:43 PM
What's the best bios for a Q6600 G0 on this board? Mine just arrived :)
purecain
08-24-2007, 05:56 PM
another bios came out today, that and an update of the creative drivers(and loads of random tweaks) seems to of fixed it. i can now have all 4gb enabled without BSOD and i no longer have any sound issues ingame. THANK GOD!!!!
nicepun
08-24-2007, 06:10 PM
another bios came out today, that and an update of the creative drivers(and loads of random tweaks) seems to of fixed it. i can now have all 4gb enabled without BSOD and i no longer have any sound issues ingame. THANK GOD!!!!
Did it fix the vcore issue with your Q6600 G0?
purecain
08-24-2007, 06:32 PM
yes it did, nice to see you on the forum nicepun, you been playing bioshock.... good fun aint it m8.... looking forward to the official widescreen patch coming soon and the next ccc which will hopefully allow aa in this game. the game plays really well in dx10, very immersive.... i think i'm gonna have another hour in rapture in a minute... shame theres no co-op...
after installing fraps 64bitvista compatible version i immediatly got BSOD... and its always memory addressing issues.... so thats another program i'm gonna aviod in this os for a couple of versions. i wanted to disprove some of the fps of the hd2900 in bioshock that are being banded about....
jkresh
08-24-2007, 07:19 PM
purecain, have you tried overclocking the q6600 with the new bios and if so what results are you getting?
FabricioGS
08-24-2007, 10:01 PM
Nevermind, I updated to the latest one (2301) and it's working like a sharm. The only thing I'm missing is the ECC memory option. This one seems very stable, but I'll update later with some orthos screens.
So far I reacher more than 3.1GHz with vcore default (1,325v) set in bios.
alexlyc
08-24-2007, 10:27 PM
With 2206 BIO, I tried the following combination on my G0 Q6600:
400 FSB / Auto vcore - Result: can't even boot :rofl:
390 FSB / Auto vcore - Result: BSOD after window loading screen
388 FSB / 1.375vcore - Result: stuck at windows loading screen
387 FSB / 1.375vcore - Result: Boot into windows, ortho error @ ~2 min
380 FSB / 1.325vcore - Result: Boot into windows, ortho error @ ~6 min
378 FSB / 1.325vcore - Result: Boot into windows, ortho error @ ~20 min
375 FSB / 1.325vcore - Result: currently testing...
ram is set to 533MHz for 1:1 ratio, dram is 2.1v, spd enabled, and multiplier enabled at 9x through out the test.
system spec at follow:
Q6600 G0 / Asus Silent Square / 4x 1GB Gskill HZ DDR2 800 / TT Spirit on both NB and SB, no mosfet / TT Toughtpower 700W / Seagate 7200.10 320GB / ATI X1900 XTX
jkresh
08-24-2007, 11:27 PM
best I can do at stock with 2004 is about 2.7 (2.75 crashes in prime after 2.5 hours), though at load stock is 1.22 for my G0. At 2.7 full prime asus probe says 29c with my fuzion (no chipset or gpu in the loop right now so my cooling is somewhat insane). Hopefully 2301 will do better (probably will test it on Sunday as I am driving my brother to school tomorrow).
BulldogPO
08-25-2007, 01:54 AM
I can run Orthos for days with my Q6600 B3 3.2GHz FSB 356MHz but not more.
Watercooled system and Vcore is now at 1.475V, mem 1:1 2.25V CL 4-3-3-1 and bios is 2004.
purecain
08-25-2007, 04:56 AM
cant even test, got to go on holiday with the missis and my daughter.... only away for a week. i'll be itchin to get back to my pc thats for sure....
equilibrium
08-25-2007, 06:06 AM
I just upgraded my BIOS to 2004 from 1305 and now my CPU fan is stuck on 100% operation :eek: (it seems to ignore the settings)
Has anyone else noticed this? :( I might go back to 1305
Are there any other BIOS versions anyone else would recommend?
Silent CPU Fan Profile won't work in BIOS when Vcore is above Auto - Try setting to Optimal Fan Profile, worked for me..
seems to ignore settings, even optimal :( :confused:
gwolfman
08-25-2007, 08:54 AM
With 2206 BIO, I tried the following combination on my G0 Q6600:
400 FSB / Auto vcore - Result: can't even boot :rofl:
390 FSB / Auto vcore - Result: BSOD after window loading screen
388 FSB / 1.375vcore - Result: stuck at windows loading screen
387 FSB / 1.375vcore - Result: Boot into windows, ortho error @ ~2 min
380 FSB / 1.325vcore - Result: Boot into windows, ortho error @ ~6 min
378 FSB / 1.325vcore - Result: Boot into windows, ortho error @ ~20 min
375 FSB / 1.325vcore - Result: currently testing...
ram is set to 533MHz for 1:1 ratio, dram is 2.1v, spd enabled, and multiplier enabled at 9x through out the test.
system spec at follow:
Q6600 G0 / Asus Silent Square / 4x 1GB Gskill HZ DDR2 800 / TT Spirit on both NB and SB, no mosfet / TT Toughtpower 700W / Seagate 7200.10 320GB / ATI X1900 XTX
Hi, I have an E6600 and I'm on BIOS 2205 and I am running into the exact same problem as you are. I can't seem to get past the ~375 FSB. Seems like it's my FSB wall but others don't seem to have it so I wonder what's up. Any luck getting past it?
nicepun
08-25-2007, 12:46 PM
I just upgraded my BIOS to 2004 from 1305 and now my CPU fan is stuck on 100% operation :eek: (it seems to ignore the settings)
Has anyone else noticed this? :( I might go back to 1305
Are there any other BIOS versions anyone else would recommend?
seems to ignore settings, even optimal :( :confused:
Reset CMOS!! And give it another try. Also, try updating to the latest official 2206 found on the ASUS Website.
equilibrium
08-25-2007, 03:48 PM
Reset CMOS!! And give it another try. Also, try updating to the latest official 2206 found on the ASUS Website.
I reset the CMOS with jumper as soon as I upgraded :(
I might give the newest BIOS a go tho as I've just had my first hardware crash in nearly 1year and the only thing I have done is update the BIOS :( the settings are exactly as they were with the 1305 BIOS :mad:
John600rr
08-26-2007, 01:57 AM
I did a little FSB testing with the vMCH pencil mod today and thought I would post:
I've had my P5W DH for well over a year now so I figured I could push on it a little to see if something would break. Here are my results for pushing the vMCH:
**All voltages are measured on the board**
1.65 vMCH: 390 max FSB
1.67 vMCH: 401 max FSB
1.71 vMCH: 405 max FSB
1.75 vMCH: 411 max FSB
1.77 vMCH: 420 max FSB
1.81 vMCH: 423 max FSB (odd POSTing issues start)
1.85 vMCH: 425 max FSB (no where near stable, wouldn't POST 25% of the time)
1.91-2.0 vMCH: Would do 427-428 but had crazy rebooting issues which would put the board into some sort of over voltage protection mode which would limit the FSB down to like 290.
I settled at 420 FSB since it's stable enough and the northbridge is still only warm to the touch.
I am curious, what voltages are you guys getting on the board with the new rev boards which allow for 1.85 vMCH in the BIOS?
CPU-Z of the 420 I settled on:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=234629
Lee13168
08-26-2007, 07:38 AM
I need to set north bridge to 1.85 to even get to boot in with fsb above 350. Then it overheats and wont post for like 15min. So my mobo is deffinitly :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed up in someway but i just dont want to deal with asus to RMA it.
Arlequin
08-26-2007, 09:23 AM
Hello,
First of all im new to this forum and hello to everyone here, its one useful thread :)
Anyways the question is (i have looked throuh this thread and maybe i have some gaps but i dont know about em)
What is the max stable OC for Q6600 B3 or G0 with this mobo?
I know this MOBO gets quirky with quadcores but i havent been able to find a good answer.
It seems like its good till 3,4 maybe 3,6ghz is it true? Im running my p4 prescott atm on the mobo but my Q6600 is coming soon and i want to know if i have to sell this mobo? I dont want to post records but i would like to achive a stable and high oc for everyday use.
I have my FUZION block waiting for it already. And I am also thinking of building AC chiller unit for my system.
I dont like the idea of selling it its a one more thing to deal with...
So if someone who has Q6600 OC-ed on this MOBO could give me a hint i would be thankful. :)
MarcusTaz
08-26-2007, 09:51 AM
Read in 200's and up, it has been posted time and time again including my bios settings for 3.4GHZ stable...
Arlequin
08-26-2007, 11:00 AM
Thank you
I got the picture. :)
So if someone who has Q6600 OC-ed on this MOBO could give me a hint i would be thankful. :)
My Q6600 G0 wouldn't go above 3.15Ghz on my P5WDH no matter what bios settings I used. Mine was one of the 1.65v MCH boards. I switched to P5K-E/Wifi but I have plenty of issues with this motherboard. I miss the stability and smoothness of the P5WDH. I can use my Q6600 G0 at 3.6Ghz in my P5K-E/Wifi but I am yet to find 100% stability on this motherboard.
Towle
08-26-2007, 05:43 PM
I have an Asus P5W-DH and I have updated the Bios to 2205. I have an E6600 overclocked to 3.00ghz (on air) and it is working fine.. Will this CPU work with this MB with this bios ?
I would like some reassurance please ..
w2richwood
08-26-2007, 06:23 PM
yes it will even 2004 bios or earlier
jkresh
08-26-2007, 07:57 PM
it should post with 2004, but at least my board seems to have some issue with the g0 (takes forever to post and says invalid cpu microcode, I am considering going to one of the newer beta bios's).
w2richwood
08-26-2007, 08:32 PM
ok i see now he has e66oo in one place there and q66oo in the other guess i should have read it better
nrs250
08-26-2007, 09:04 PM
My Q6600 G0 wouldn't go above 3.15Ghz on my P5WDH no matter what bios settings I used. Mine was one of the 1.65v MCH boards. I switched to P5K-E/Wifi but I have plenty of issues with this motherboard. I miss the stability and smoothness of the P5WDH. I can use my Q6600 G0 at 3.6Ghz in my P5K-E/Wifi but I am yet to find 100% stability on this motherboard.
I have to agree with that. The P5W DH falls short in many ways when it comes to pushing the OC envelope, especiallly on a QUAD but there is no doubt that compared to many of the P35 and 680i boards, this board is a 24/7 stable board. Once you find a stable OC I have found the P5W DH to be very reliable. I am looking forward to the X38 boards but I am inclined to let some others be my "beta testers" of a 1st generation product, especially ASUS's wonderful 1st generation BIOSes on new chipsets.
X7007
08-27-2007, 03:05 AM
just as the screenshot says
needed to give it 1.3800 stable
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=235041
another screenshot to show stability for 24hr FPU cpu test.
http://www.siz.co.il/img/zezyydwzqliw.jpg (http://www.siz.co.il/my.php?file=zezyydwzqliw.jpg)
and another little question, is it ok to give 2.25 to CellShock memory ?
my memory is rated 2.1 - 2.2 800mhz.
2GB Cellshock (2X1024) DDR II - PC6400 4-4-4-12 (D9GMH) 800MHz
i would like to know if its ok, so my ram wont die after a few months.
with bios 2305 beta
jkresh
08-27-2007, 11:40 PM
now 24hour stable at 3ghz with 1.36v actual using 2004, prime seems to be running fine at 3.2 with same voltage, if it is still running in a few hours I will try upping fsb again. (right now cpu is set to an fsb of 300 in bios and using clockgen to get up to 355 now, once its confirmed stable I will update bios fsb and play with clockgen again).
24/7 stable at 3 ghz vCore 1.350 in bios, 1.32 actual in Windows. Memory 667 (1:1) 4 4 4 12. Using Lawrywild's 2004 bios. Coretemp 38 38 43 43 idle 60 60 65 65 load (Prime 95) In bios all set on auto except vcore and memory timings. Eist, C1 and Speedstep enabled.
Higher speed was either unstable, doesn't mater of bios settings, or to hot for my taste, so I find above setting the most stable and reliable for everyday use. Since I use my rig mostly for video encoding it is almost 100% (for x264) faster than my old E6600 at 3.3 ghz.
just as the screenshot says
needed to give it 1.3800 stable
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=235041
another screenshot to show stability for 24hr FPU cpu test.
http://www.siz.co.il/img/zezyydwzqliw.jpg (http://www.siz.co.il/my.php?file=zezyydwzqliw.jpg)
and another little question, is it ok to give 2.25 to CellShock memory ?
my memory is rated 2.1 - 2.2 800mhz.
2GB Cellshock (2X1024) DDR II - PC6400 4-4-4-12 (D9GMH) 800MHz
i would like to know if its ok, so my ram wont die after a few months.
with bios 2305 beta
Where can I get the Bios 2305 Beta? I will try it, too.
crishan
08-28-2007, 02:36 AM
Maybe it was just a typo, but I'd also like to know where to get the 2305 beta Bios.
w2richwood
08-28-2007, 02:53 AM
ok here ya go beta bios http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us hope it works for ya
Bloke
08-28-2007, 03:24 AM
ok here ya go beta bios http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us hope it works for ya
There is definitely a 2301 BETA BIOS there but no sign of 2305 :rolleyes:
eblaster101
08-28-2007, 04:16 AM
got my q6600 go stepping but got weird on bios i set to 390 x8 so i rebooted to find it shows 3.51ghz vcore is 1.41 i think around that area.
but when i open cpu z it shows 3.123. but when i right click my computer shows 3.51ghz again.
anyone shed some light on this using new latest bios
also after i installed the new cpu it takes like 6min to load up windows i dont know why it shows windows sign with scroll bar forever i tried safe mode etc. do i need to format? was perfect on e6600
eblaster101
08-28-2007, 04:46 AM
quick update guys changed multiplyer to 9 and now it shows correct reading it seems stable done orthos for a while.
reports 3.4ghz easily and i havent pushed it properly yet. getting stupid temperatures 43 idle and 70 load??? i layed the As5 a bit thicker than usual i will prob have to undo that now.
equilibrium
08-28-2007, 06:12 AM
I just tried the 2206 BIOS and the CPU fan still runs at 100% :( also there is another problem where you cannot disable the onboard Audio.
So I thought I'd give the 2301 BIOS a go just to see and it seems to be the same as the 2206 :( but I put the audio into vista mode and then disabled it, so now it seems to be detected as a unknown device.
I'm just using speedfan to get my cpu fan down to 75%-80% so it's not noisy, need to find something similar for linux now tho :(
I notice the BIOS program only allows updates aswell, I was going to try the 1305 or even 1503 BIOS if I could get it to force a downgrade :confused:
w2richwood
08-28-2007, 09:01 AM
you have to use afudos to down grade bios and older one 2.12 or something like that
gwolfman
08-28-2007, 11:13 AM
another bios came out today, that and an update of the creative drivers(and loads of random tweaks) seems to of fixed it. i can now have all 4gb enabled without BSOD and i no longer have any sound issues ingame. THANK GOD!!!!
Link to the X-Fi drivers? I tried the download from their site and autoupdate as well and it didn't show anything new.
equilibrium
08-28-2007, 11:40 AM
you have to use afudos to down grade bios and older one 2.12 or something like that
n1 :)
I tried loads of BIOSes but ended up going all the way back to the 1305 which I was already on before.
BIOS's I tried:
1305 - been running it for nearly a year, no probs so far
1503 - CPU Fan Problem (100% all the time)
1506 - CPU Fan Problem (100% all the time)
1601 - CPU Fan Problem (100% all the time)
2004 - CPU Fan Problem (100% all the time) - had hardware crash in quake4 :(
2206 - CPU Fan Problem (100% all the time) & Unable to disable onboard Audio
2301 - CPU Fan Problem (100% all the time) & Unable to disable onboard Audio
gwolfman
08-28-2007, 12:21 PM
I did a little FSB testing with the vMCH pencil mod today and thought I would post:
I've had my P5W DH for well over a year now so I figured I could push on it a little to see if something would break. Here are my results for pushing the vMCH:
**All voltages are measured on the board**
1.65 vMCH: 390 max FSB
1.67 vMCH: 401 max FSB
1.71 vMCH: 405 max FSB
1.75 vMCH: 411 max FSB
1.77 vMCH: 420 max FSB
1.81 vMCH: 423 max FSB (odd POSTing issues start)
1.85 vMCH: 425 max FSB (no where near stable, wouldn't POST 25% of the time)
1.91-2.0 vMCH: Would do 427-428 but had crazy rebooting issues which would put the board into some sort of over voltage protection mode which would limit the FSB down to like 290.
I settled at 420 FSB since it's stable enough and the northbridge is still only warm to the touch.
I am curious, what voltages are you guys getting on the board with the new rev boards which allow for 1.85 vMCH in the BIOS?
CPU-Z of the 420 I settled on:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=234629
Thanks for the details, I'll give those voltages a try. What's your idle/load temps with 420 FSB?
got my q6600 go stepping but got weird on bios i set to 390 x8 so i rebooted to find it shows 3.51ghz vcore is 1.41 i think around that area.
but when i open cpu z it shows 3.123. but when i right click my computer shows 3.51ghz again.
anyone shed some light on this using new latest bios
also after i installed the new cpu it takes like 6min to load up windows i dont know why it shows windows sign with scroll bar forever i tried safe mode etc. do i need to format? was perfect on e6600
Are you saying you have a Q6600 G0 stable at 3.51Ghz on a P5WDH? If so, do you have the 1.65V MCH version or the 1.85V MCH version of the P5WDH?
Because I thought with the quads on this board we were limited to about 3.2Ghz? If the latest bios has fixed that, I might dump my P5K-E and come back to P5WDH.
jkresh
08-28-2007, 10:19 PM
I seem to be stuck around 3.15 with the regular 2004, its perfectly stable at 1.37 v actual (and my temps are realy good) but even going up to 1.45 (actual) I cant get it stable at 3.2 (reboots after x amount of time, most was 5 hours). Temps are not an issue (speedfan is showing about 40c at 1.47 with full prime load for each core).
teowws
08-29-2007, 12:53 AM
what brand of memory runs well in 4 X 1GB for vista 64 on this board?
I have 4 X 1 GB Corsair value ram and can never get Vista 64bit to install, keeps getting BSOD even with memory remap off (onboard still 4GB with 3GB useable). Takes off 1 stick and installation can start. my P5W-DH bios is 2301 and running E6850 cpu.
Try reshuffling the ram to go to different slot also not successful. The 4GB rams was working well previously in my Windows XP 32 bit although i can only detect 3GB in windows xp 32bit.
Any advise?
John600rr
08-29-2007, 01:10 AM
Thanks for the details, I'll give those voltages a try. What's your idle/load temps with 420 FSB?
CPU or Northbridge temps? I didn't record NB temps since I was not worried about them, but even at 1.9 vMCH the heat sink was only warm. Granted I have very good air flow.
CPU @ 3780 w/ 1.6 Vcore: Idles @ 32C and loads up around 70C after a few hours.
Just a lapped E6600 (29F), big typhoon, good air flow and 22C ambient temp.
what brand of memory runs well in 4 X 1GB for vista 64 on this board?
I have 4 X 1 GB Corsair value ram and can never get Vista 64bit to install, keeps getting BSOD even with memory remap off (onboard still 4GB with 3GB useable). Takes off 1 stick and installation can start. my P5W-DH bios is 2301 and running E6850 cpu.
Try reshuffling the ram to go to different slot also not successful. The 4GB rams was working well previously in my Windows XP 32 bit although i can only detect 3GB in windows xp 32bit.
Any advise?
G.Skill 4x 1GB F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ runs fine for vista 64bit, i have memory remap enabled, 2,15 Volt.
Win Xp shows only 3 GB, thats normal.
I'm running E6850CPU with bios 2301, too.
mikepaul
08-29-2007, 02:02 PM
Anyone know the Return On Investment of 4GB total under XP? Do things work any better using 3GB of RAM, or is it more of a warm feeling knowing that it's in there come Vista time?...
<<HANNIBAL>>
08-29-2007, 02:49 PM
wow
thnx guys
at last I discovered the 370 FSB problem and solved it
I'm now at 412 FSB
CPU friquancy 3.7GHz
It's working 100% stable
here is a screenshot:
http://rq.foto.radikal.ru/0708/65/2a534365ca0c.jpg
but now I have another FSB Wall at 415
it works at 414 but not at 415
here is my config and voltages:
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 2400MHz (Cooler Master Eclipse)
M/B: ASUS P5W DH DELUXE/WIFI-AP LGA 775 Intel 975X (ATi CrossFire Ready)
VGA: Radeon X1900XTX (ZALMAN VF700-CU )
HDD: Seagate 7200.9, 8MB -250GB
RAM: OCZ (Special Ops Edition) 2x1GB DDR2 667MHz 4-4-4-12
PSU: 600 Watt
Vcore 1.5v
FSB 1.4v
DRAM 2.2v
PCI 33mhz
PCIE 100mhz
VMCH 1.65
VICH 1.05v
Disabled: Hyperpath 3
Enabled: SPD Timings option
MarcusTaz
08-29-2007, 07:46 PM
what brand of memory runs well in 4 X 1GB for vista 64 on this board?
I have 4 X 1 GB Corsair value ram and can never get Vista 64bit to install, keeps getting BSOD even with memory remap off (onboard still 4GB with 3GB useable). Takes off 1 stick and installation can start. my P5W-DH bios is 2301 and running E6850 cpu.
Try reshuffling the ram to go to different slot also not successful. The 4GB rams was working well previously in my Windows XP 32 bit although i can only detect 3GB in windows xp 32bit.
Any advise?
Try this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146565
I have 4GB of this running and all is well, OCed it to 900Mhz and it is stable albeit 2.3 volts up from stock recommended 2.2 volts... 4-4-4-12-4
eblaster101
08-30-2007, 04:25 AM
Are you saying you have a Q6600 G0 stable at 3.51Ghz on a P5WDH? If so, do you have the 1.65V MCH version or the 1.85V MCH version of the P5WDH?
Because I thought with the quads on this board we were limited to about 3.2Ghz? If the latest bios has fixed that, I might dump my P5K-E and come back to P5WDH.
yes my q6600 is solid stable at 3.5ghz 390x9 i dont know how to check the verson of the board but on cpuz it sais REV0 and REV.1 XX. If you tell me how to check i will gladely do so and im using 2301. My fsb voltage is maxed at 1.5v and mch at 1.75v need to check this again will confirm but its definetly rock solid stable. but if i got higher its not working it just reboots when it shows windows screen at 400x9 i tried 1.5v still no go.
roger_h99.nor
08-30-2007, 05:14 AM
VMCH 1.65
This is your problem. I'm amazed it does fsb 400+ at only 1.65V.
regards
~aoe~
08-30-2007, 05:17 AM
i dont know how to check the verson of the board but on cpuz it sais REV0 and REV.1 XX. If you tell me how to check i will gladely do so and im using 2301.
Board revision is printed on the board just above the memory slots.
crazeconnolly
08-30-2007, 09:22 AM
Are ASUS making crappy Bios versions on purpose. I still cannot disable onboard vista sound in my BIOS. it keeps re-enabling. I have no way of flashing my drive coz i dont own a USB flash drive. does anyone have any ideas on how to remedy this problem. b4 i go nutz.
c
w2richwood
08-30-2007, 09:28 AM
yes a cheap floppy about ten bucks us can always hook it up on the outside of case . then unhook it when done
eblaster101
08-30-2007, 09:38 AM
c6a b519 06528 60 mbb2 xo fo2 1407 this is what it sais dong make much sence
regards
<<HANNIBAL>>
08-30-2007, 10:16 AM
This is your problem. I'm amazed it does fsb 400+ at only 1.65V.
regards
I tried 1.75v but same problem
it works fine at 414 (I'm runing it now) but at 415 it never boots
someking of wall
cant understand :shrug:
I tried Multipiler 6 still the same
Tried lower DRAM friquancy but still doesnt boots
so it's 100% Motherboard problem
HELP :( :confused:
~aoe~
08-30-2007, 11:07 AM
c6a b519 06528 60 mbb2 xo fo2 1407 this is what it sais dong make much sence
regards
Not sure where that is. Here's where the motherboard revision number is (circled in red):
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/4283/p5wdhxp6.jpg
gwolfman
08-30-2007, 12:22 PM
CPU or Northbridge temps? I didn't record NB temps since I was not worried about them, but even at 1.9 vMCH the heat sink was only warm. Granted I have very good air flow.
CPU @ 3780 w/ 1.6 Vcore: Idles @ 32C and loads up around 70C after a few hours.
Just a lapped E6600 (29F), big typhoon, good air flow and 22C ambient temp.
Yeah, I meant CPU temps. I'm currently at 375 * 9 = 3.375GHz @ 1.5v and I idle at ~40C and load at 71C. Wonder why yours seems so much lower with higher voltage and more overclock. I'll play around again and see what I can get.
<<HANNIBAL>>
08-30-2007, 12:32 PM
This is my max clock : http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236452
can anybody tell me how to get FSB 415?
This is my max clock : http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236452
can anybody tell me how to get FSB 415?
VMCH higher than 1.65
Obtained by having a revision board that supports 1.85 or volt modding the current motherboard.
sesdave
08-30-2007, 01:17 PM
I tried 1.75v but same problem
it works fine at 414 (I'm runing it now) but at 415 it never boots
someking of wall
cant understand :shrug:
I tried Multipiler 6 still the same
Tried lower DRAM friquancy but still doesnt boots
so it's 100% Motherboard problem
HELP :( :confused:
3.6 and above for an e6600 on the p5w with your memory is good going - a lot of the E6600 's dont make it that far. I would not complain to much about a wall at 414 on a 9x multiplier. I could only get mine to 3.6 stable on air 400x9 before before I upgraded .Mine would not boot at 410 or 415 but it would boot not stable at 420 and 425 with more volts.e.g 1.55 but hot! MB likes 1:1 and can be picky on other ratios with memory as a rule . Increase NB volts as the FSB increases but 1.65 should be enough upto 420 or so. I would try ICH = 1.2 FSB= 1.3 and give it more vcore if you want higher than 3.7 . Try loosening the memory to 5,5,5,15 at 1:1 . Have you disabled all the other BIOS settings not required? e.g virtulisation,memory remap etc.
roger_h99.nor
08-30-2007, 01:31 PM
This is my max clock : http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=236452
can anybody tell me how to get FSB 415?
If the validationscreen is correct you're using PC5300 RAM at ratio 1:1?
This RAM is rated at fsb=333.
Try to alter the ram/fsb ratio - could well be the ram holding you back.
John600rr
08-30-2007, 03:39 PM
Yeah, I meant CPU temps. I'm currently at 375 * 9 = 3.375GHz @ 1.5v and I idle at ~40C and load at 71C. Wonder why yours seems so much lower with higher voltage and more overclock. I'll play around again and see what I can get.
What CPU cooling are you running? Whats you're maximum OC? Here's a run @ 410FSB.
Vcore in BIOS is set @ 1.6V, but is fluctuates in Windows from 1.55 to 1.61V read in CPU-Z.
2BIG4U
08-30-2007, 05:20 PM
Hi,
I have a big problem. I just flashed my bios to lawrywild's recommended 2004 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48609629/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2004.rar) I used alt+F2, it was written compleated, i restarted system, and i can`t boot my system, everything seems to be working, no beeps, just monitor stays like turned off, just black screen. plz help. is my mb dead?
Chrysalis
08-30-2007, 05:37 PM
ok so this is interesting a further dive into the ide performance on this board remember I have a lot of hds so the problem could be linked to that and I expect no reviewers tested this board loaded up with hds.
4 winrar sessions unrarring at once, cpu utilisation and ram low yet clicking on each window is sluggish taking ages to redraw itself on screen so something is saturated probably the io bus.
Burning a dvd at 16x the old board did this with ease, the hd is thrashing hard at around 12x and read buffer running out, occasionally gets to 16x ok, put same hd in other machine and do 16x burn has no problems at all and not thrashing. I should get round to trying the raid drivers, hd is sharing intel pata controller with burner havent tried burning of jmicron or intel sata hds yet.
MarcusTaz
08-30-2007, 08:22 PM
Hi,
I have a big problem. I just flashed my bios to lawrywild's recommended 2004 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48609629/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2004.rar) I used alt+F2, it was written compleated, i restarted system, and i can`t boot my system, everything seems to be working, no beeps, just monitor stays like turned off, just black screen. plz help. is my mb dead?
I feel your pain, the same thing happed to me when I used asus update from windows and corrupted my bios chip. Now at everyone recommendations I only use AFUDOS through dos. Not sure if the ALT F2 would do this but it sounds like you bricked or corrupted your bios chip like me as the symtoms were the same. If you cannot get it going you can mail the bios chip and I will hotflash your bios chip for you and DHL it back to you express if you like as long as you pay me for shipping. We can use paypal...
if you sign up on DHL.com you get 10% off all shipping and they are just great. Fastest shipping company and least expensive I have used yet.
Let me know man would be more then willing to help you...
MacClipper
08-30-2007, 09:08 PM
Hi,
I have a big problem. I just flashed my bios to lawrywild's recommended 2004 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48609629/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2004.rar) I used alt+F2, it was written compleated, i restarted system, and i can`t boot my system, everything seems to be working, no beeps, just monitor stays like turned off, just black screen. plz help. is my mb dead?
remove CMOS battery for 15s, replace battery then try powering on again.
2BIG4U
08-30-2007, 11:32 PM
I feel your pain, the same thing happed to me when I used asus update from windows and corrupted my bios chip. Now at everyone recommendations I only use AFUDOS through dos. Not sure if the ALT F2 would do this but it sounds like you bricked or corrupted your bios chip like me as the symtoms were the same. If you cannot get it going you can mail the bios chip and I will hotflash your bios chip for you and DHL it back to you express if you like as long as you pay me for shipping. We can use paypal...
if you sign up on DHL.com you get 10% off all shipping and they are just great. Fastest shipping company and least expensive I have used yet.
Let me know man would be more then willing to help you...
You are 100% sure that will help me?
bichi
08-31-2007, 04:48 AM
Hi,
I have a big problem. I just flashed my bios to lawrywild's recommended 2004 (http://rapidshare.com/files/48609629/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2004.rar) I used alt+F2, it was written compleated, i restarted system, and i can`t boot my system, everything seems to be working, no beeps, just monitor stays like turned off, just black screen. plz help. is my mb dead?
2BIG4U, from Lithuania, Europe?
- in either case, contacting local ASUS Support Center is another suggestion.
- they will send you a replacement BIOS chip. (only costs $1 in the USA)
- you have to send your old BIOS chip back to them, otherwise, there is an additional charge. ($20 in the USA)
"ALT-F2" will work, only if the "safe-Boot-Block" area in BIOS was not damaged.
see past post for details:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2352571&postcount=5511
MarcusTaz
08-31-2007, 06:28 AM
oops did not look where he was from... Bichi thanks for the heads up...
2BIG4U follow bichi recommendations.
but I do know I wiped my chip and the results were the same, pc would power up and black screen, no other responces.. ALt F2 did not work, not even the built in AMI bios recovery with the CTRL+Home on initial boot with a ps2 keyboard, nothing, system acted dead... I had to get another bios chip and hotflash the other one.. Now I have 2 chips just in case.
Good luck to you my friend...
2BIG4U
08-31-2007, 06:59 AM
2BIG4U, from Lithuania, Europe?
- in either case, contacting local ASUS Support Center is another suggestion.
- they will send you a replacement BIOS chip. (only costs $1 in the USA)
- you have to send your old BIOS chip back to them, otherwise, there is an additional charge. ($20 in the USA)
"ALT-F2" will work, only if the "safe-Boot-Block" area in BIOS was not damaged.
see past post for details:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2352571&postcount=5511
They will send me new unflashed bios o already flashed, just please tell me more, i`m going to pick the third suggestion (20$), my parents live in usa, i`m just studying abroad. they will order and then will sent to me.
MarcusTaz
08-31-2007, 07:25 AM
They will send me new unflashed bios o already flashed, just please tell me more, i`m going to pick the third suggestion (20$), my parents live in usa, i`m just studying abroad. they will order and then will sent to me.
It will be flashed. I am still willing to hotflash for you if it is worth the shipping costs. I will do it for free for you just pay the shipping...
gwolfman
08-31-2007, 07:41 AM
What CPU cooling are you running? Whats you're maximum OC? Here's a run @ 410FSB.
Vcore in BIOS is set @ 1.6V, but is fluctuates in Windows from 1.55 to 1.61V read in CPU-Z.
I'm running the Corsair Nautilus 500, which I understand it to not being a very good water cooler, only decent, but pretty good compared to air coolers. I'll try checking my temps again with the programs I see you running in the screenshot. :)
2BIG4U
08-31-2007, 08:09 AM
It will be flashed. I am still willing to hotflash for you if it is worth the shipping costs. I will do it for free for you just pay the shipping...
I appretiate, but lithuania olso have profs in pc stores, like bestbuy`s geek`s (i think they will not do that), so they told me that it will cost to me about 20$ they will do hotflash, and i`m thinking about another from asus, just in case. if something changes, i will write to you, thanks for now, and sorry about my poor english :)
So, about bios from asus, when i will get the chip, i must change to my old, and my system will boot? am i right?
MarcusTaz
08-31-2007, 08:45 AM
They should send it with the latest non beta bios so I would say possibly 2004 or maybe one higher but your system will boot. Just go get the chip hotflashed in the same MOBO and do not worry about another chip... Just use AFUDOS in the future and you will be good to go... From now on do not use any custom bios unless you have a backup chip to play with...
crazeconnolly
08-31-2007, 10:23 AM
Which procedure would i take to revert back to my original BIOS version.
As newer versions i have downloaded have failed to disable onboard sound.
c
w2richwood
08-31-2007, 11:34 AM
Which procedure would i take to revert back to my original BIOS version.
As newer versions i have downloaded have failed to disable onboard sound.
c
older verion of afudos 2.11 or something there abouts and its work great
Rich
crazeconnolly
08-31-2007, 12:44 PM
Which way would i use this. ive never used this medthod b4. i always used Asus Update for windows. Do i put this onto a floppy? or do i make a boot disk first then load this into DOS?
craze
w2richwood
08-31-2007, 12:50 PM
Which way would i use this. ive never used this medthod b4. i always used Asus Update for windows. Do i put this onto a floppy? or do i make a boot disk first then load this into DOS?
craze
i made a boot disk and booted to that then put in the afudos disk with bios make sure you name it p5wdh.rom then type in afudos /ip5wdh.rom hit enter and flash i flashed back to 2004 my self
hope this helps Rich
crazeconnolly
08-31-2007, 12:58 PM
thanks alot Rich. Ill give that a shot. all i need to do is get a floppy drive lol
craze
MarcusTaz
08-31-2007, 12:59 PM
i always used Asus Update for windows.
Never ever use Asus Windows update for this board.. There is a serious flaw and you risk wiping your bios chip and ending up with a black screen.
You can use Floopy and or flash drive. if you use floppy, you need 2 disks, 1 for a boot disk and the other for the AFUDOS.exe and the .rom file... If you use flash drive you can put all the files on there and just boot from the flash drive as long as it is a bootable one...
Unbornchild
08-31-2007, 01:26 PM
What 'flaw'. Details please.
I use AU on 2 boards, never encountered any flaw. Maybe people forget to reset BIOS to defaults before updating (which is i believe recommended)?
MarcusTaz
08-31-2007, 03:05 PM
Defaults means nothing, tried it still screw my chip, I used Asus update on every other Asus mobo I have ever owned and that is at least 6, Asus update will kill the bios chip on this board, read the posts in this thread. Tis FLAWED...
If you care to use this to flash go for it, but when you corrupt your bios do not say i did not say I told you so...
More here and prob one of the best posts on this board I have yet to find:
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20070201104656601&board_id=1&model=P5W+DH+Deluxe&page=1&SLanguage=en-us
<<HANNIBAL>>
08-31-2007, 04:49 PM
I steel can't reach 415 fsb
I tried everything
set voltages to high leve
lowered multipiler
lowered Ram frequancy
steel nothing
it means that mobo is blocking 415 fsb
how do people pass the 415 fsb limit? :(
gwolfman
08-31-2007, 06:35 PM
What size fan fits nice on the NB heatsink? I'm going to remove the cover and put one on there. I'm guessing a 40mm fan is the right size?
~aoe~
08-31-2007, 11:47 PM
Correct - 40mm fan will fit nice on the NB
w2richwood
09-01-2007, 12:26 AM
What size fan fits nice on the NB heatsink? I'm going to remove the cover and put one on there. I'm guessing a 40mm fan is the right size?
i also put one on my south bridge brings mb temp down below cpu
~aoe~
09-01-2007, 12:49 AM
i also put one on my south bridge brings mb temp down below cpu
Can't hurt. The sensor for the motherboard temp is very close to the SB (as previously indicated by Bichi), so any additional airflow around that area should help to drop the temps reported.
I don't have room to fit one as the fan shroud on my gfx card sits above the SB and there's not enough clearance. Looking for a decent replacement SB heatsink that will fit (using the original on another motherboard). Going to try the EnzoTech SB heatsink (http://store.yahoo.com/yhst-65556269779593/encnonfocoso.html) - will require a bit of modding to fit though as the hole distance is not quite short enough. At least it's another chance to use the new Dremel :p:
Currently using the HR-05 SLi, but it's overkill and not the best-looking.
w2richwood
09-01-2007, 01:25 AM
mine dont look good just works good :yepp:
martinii
09-01-2007, 01:59 AM
Hi,
I tried to flash bios by afudos with parameters: afudos /i.....rom /p /b /n /n /reboot and there was only the message: USAGE: afudos /i<ROM filename> [/o<save ROM filename>]
What is wrong? :confused:
w2richwood
09-01-2007, 02:05 AM
all you need is afudos /ip5wdh.rom hope this works for you if not get afudos v2.11
MarcusTaz
09-01-2007, 05:42 AM
"would not use the /pb if I were you... it reflashes the boot block. This is normally read-only and is where the "Crash Free BIOS" code resides. If you flash with /pb and have a failure, you will not be able to recover (this happened to me :( ).
The only time the boot block needs updating is when there are changes to the boot clock code. This is pretty rare and ASUS usually provide an update exe file."
I think I wiped my boot block clean... Anyone have this for me a clean complete image of an entire bios, I do not care which version with a boot block or how to program it back to virgin?
ediflorianus
09-01-2007, 06:19 AM
This board is good? P5W DH ?? I wold like to buy one... it's cheap... it's a good motherboard or not ?
Ragdd
09-01-2007, 06:39 AM
I love this board.
I don't overclock, but this board is very fast with a Core2duo processor.
And have a lot of features on board.
I would like an additional Intel PATA connector and some additional Intel Sata connectors (2 or 3).
My previous motherboard was the Asus P5WD2 Premium and had more connections for harddrive.
I use on my P5W DH 2 Papst 412/2 fans on my north and southbridge.
Their are very silent, but cools very well.
Only the pricetag is some negative.
D_BRASCO
09-01-2007, 07:23 AM
I steel can't reach 415 fsb
I tried everything
set voltages to high leve
lowered multipiler
lowered Ram frequancy
steel nothing
it means that mobo is blocking 415 fsb
how do people pass the 415 fsb limit? :(
My board has 415-424 FSB hole, but I can get 425-430 FSB to work, but no higher.......
nrs250
09-01-2007, 03:01 PM
I'm running the Corsair Nautilus 500, which I understand it to not being a very good water cooler, only decent, but pretty good compared to air coolers. I'll try checking my temps again with the programs I see you running in the screenshot. :)
That statement is just not true. I have a Q6600 OC'd to 3 GHz
My temps were 54-55 on load Prime 95.
I modded the radiator and put in a Danger Den Black Ice Pro and it dropped load temps t0 44-48.
The Nautilus has some benefits:
1) no mess
2) reliable
3) decent WC (not extreme) but for $150 bucks its not bad.
Plus its moddable.
:up:
eblaster101
09-02-2007, 03:58 AM
Not sure where that is. Here's where the motherboard revision number is (circled in red):
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/4283/p5wdhxp6.jpg
hey sorry for delay its 1.04G revison
eblaster101
09-02-2007, 05:49 AM
here is the details of the overclock shown if i use 400fsb it reboots when its about to load the applications in windows i tried upping vcore but it dont help any ideas.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/alpashm/untitled-1.jpg
settings used in bios
390x9
DDr2 at 780mhz memory is dominator 800mhz micron chips at 4-4-4-12
memory voltage 2.10v
cpu voltage 1.4750v
fsb 1.50v
mch 1.65v
ich 1.20v
hope this helps others reach a decent overclock on q6600
settings used in bios
390x9
DDr2 at 780mhz memory is dominator 800mhz micron chips at 4-4-4-12
memory voltage 2.10v
cpu voltage 1.4750v
fsb 1.50v
mch 1.65v
ich 1.20v
hope this helps others reach a decent overclock on q6600
Doesn't work for me. What bios and what kind of cooling you have?
I read in asus website, P5wDH only supports DDr2 800, could I use DD2 1066 (Crucial Ballistix 2X1024 PC2 8500 Bus 1066MHz), does this mainboard support it?
lawrywild
09-02-2007, 07:49 AM
My board won't run ddr2-1066 whatever I try. I know that some do and some don't so you have to take a gamble. You can always run lower speed and tighten the timings though remember.
My board won't run ddr2-1066 whatever I try. I know that some do and some don't so you have to take a gamble. You can always run lower speed and tighten the timings though remember.
Thx Lawrywild, sad news for me.... do you have Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 and P5w, what timing and memory voltage do you use for it?
eblaster101
09-02-2007, 07:58 AM
Doesn't work for me. What bios and what kind of cooling you have?
hey using 2301 bios latest i dont think cooling is an issue but tuniq tower 120 and stuck a fan on northbridge my temperatures are nearly 66 on full load but i no it aint ever gonna reach that high.
MarcusTaz
09-02-2007, 07:59 AM
here is the details of the overclock shown if i use 400fsb it reboots when its about to load the applications in windows i tried upping vcore but it dont help any ideas.
settings used in bios
390x9
DDr2 at 780mhz memory is dominator 800mhz micron chips at 4-4-4-12
memory voltage 2.10v
cpu voltage 1.4750v
fsb 1.50v
mch 1.65v
ich 1.20v
hope this helps others reach a decent overclock on q6600
This is the best for me too... As soon as I go to 400fsb it is just to unstable no matter what voltage settings. Although I choose to run it @ 380 FSB for more stablility and less vcore...
eblaster101
09-02-2007, 09:04 AM
This is the best for me too... As soon as I go to 400fsb it is just to unstable no matter what voltage settings. Although I choose to run it @ 380 FSB for more stablility and less vcore...
yeh but you got a b3 stepping and overall their general overclock tends to be 3,4ghz thats good for a b3
yes my q6600 is solid stable at 3.5ghz 390x9 i dont know how to check the verson of the board but on cpuz it sais REV0 and REV.1 XX. If you tell me how to check i will gladely do so and im using 2301. My fsb voltage is maxed at 1.5v and mch at 1.75v need to check this again will confirm but its definetly rock solid stable. but if i got higher its not working it just reboots when it shows windows screen at 400x9 i tried 1.5v still no go.
Thanks for that. You've done well. I seem to have my P5K-E/Wifi stable now with Q6600 G0 at 3.6Ghz using 1.4875 vcore in bios and Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme cooler. The rest of the bios settings for motherboard voltages are left at AUTO which is nice. So I think I'll stick with P5K-E now and sell my P5WDH. Thanks again.
hey sorry for delay its 1.04G revison
Thanks. Mine was a 1.02G. I suspect yours is much better.
John600rr
09-02-2007, 12:30 PM
settings used in bios
390x9
DDr2 at 780mhz memory is dominator 800mhz micron chips at 4-4-4-12
memory voltage 2.10v
cpu voltage 1.4750v
fsb 1.50v
mch 1.65v
ich 1.20v
hope this helps others reach a decent overclock on q6600
Did you enable SPD Ram Timings in BIOS? Don't manually set your ram timings and see if that helps. I know it sucks, but thats one of the trade offs with this board.
MarcusTaz
09-02-2007, 12:52 PM
Well I know setting the ram timmings will hlp but it is a trade off and I would rather have my timings set manual as Everest shows me a better benchmark ecen though my core clock is not as high..
kensweep
09-02-2007, 07:57 PM
Hi folks, I bought this motherboard last week as part of my long overdue PC build (well last month... but the first two boards were faulty - bad luck hey). I'd be really grateful if someone could assist with my questions. I'll be sure to show my thanks.
Firstly:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p154/Anonymous2001/mboard.jpg
What could this PCI device be? I've installed the Intel chipset drivers V7221006; and although I don't use Asus Booster or Probe (Motherboard Monitor's much better) I installed the ACPI driver. The onboard sound (and for that matter the serial port and JMicron stuff, I only use 1 IDE drive) are successfully disabled in the BIOS, v2004, and thus I haven't installed their drivers. My PCI cards are a soundcard and TV card which are installed and work fine. Windows doesn't know what the device is. I'm sure at some point - probably with the first board I had - I got rid of this problem early on.
Secondly, I have a query about temperatures and sensors. The read from the program CoreTemp is 16-17C higher than the motherboard CPU sensor. So apart from going down the route of installing my own sensors, since that's a large difference how then do I know the motherboard's second sensor is even accurate? Currently, using a Zalman Reserator for the CPU, northbridge and graphics card my CPU at idle is 44C (well 27C if I believed the motherboard sensor), and the second sensor 53C (and my graphics card in the loop is 35C according to ATI's control center). I guess that's all okay if accurate, but since I can have little faith in the onboard sensor readings how do I know if the second sensor is under- or over-reporting? Have people reached a common consensus that the sensors report too low by x degrees? (E.g. x=-17 for CPU sensor.) I'd be quite unhappy if I discovered my 53C northbridge (if that's what it refers to) is something much higher. My Core2Duo 4400 2GHz is overclocked to 3Ghz without even trying, which is quite satisfying. At some point I'l learn about other overclocking parameters such as voltages and see if I can get more out of it.
Next, maybe someone could advise me on whether my PC is safe not running any fans? I.e. since the CPU, northbridge and GPU have their heat cooled out of the case, is it okay there's nothing actively cooling anything else in the PC? My hunch is it's oky, since the PSU - an Antec Phantom 500 - only spins its temperature-controlled fan once in a blue moon. My single hard disc reports 41C (in a very hot GUP Japan Smart Drive 2002C), it's an Antec P180 case, one DVD drive, RAM 2x2GB PC2-6400 and my 2 PCI cards. I hope I won't need the fans since I use the PC close to where I record my music. The soutbridge heatsink is only warm and I removed it, cleaned it then reseated it with Arctic Silver5, removing the cover logo. But since the Asus heatpipe thing is removed due to the Reserator, does that mean the part of the motherboard it was stuck to near the top of the board is now missing some cooling? Or maybe even the onboard wifi card wants some?
My final query is about maxing out the CPU. I ran Prime95 among other things to check my overclock was stable (it was and never got hotter than 59C). But never did the CPU usage in Windows Task manager read more than 50%. What can I use to get 99-100% activity? Edit: it's okay, I found http://sp2004.fre3.com/beta/beta2.htm. 100% usage only adds 2C to the 59C.
Many thanks.
Minnyboy
09-02-2007, 09:24 PM
i am thinking that the device with the "?" is either something U download from asus website for some acpi driver device or has to do with your onboard soundcard.
I know that there has been a few times that I've come across that while reinstalling XP on my 2nd PC & I have to go to Asus website to get the download for that driver...
After that, it worked fine... Although I'm still unsure of what it does...
However, since U have said U use a PCI souncard. then it looks to me that U need to download the device driver from the website... Will try to find more details of it & post it..
edit 1:
I prolly would try to install at least 1. 120mm fan either at the front or at the back to improve airflow for components that tend to get hot like the mosfets & stuff when running with WC...
Also would tend to more believe coretemp than the onboard sensors as the onboard sensors use the mobo readings whereas coretemp uses the cpu die for readings (if I'm correct... pls correct me if I'm wrong)..
alexlyc
09-02-2007, 11:03 PM
Please help me out, ever since I installed my os onto the Seagate 320GB SATA drive, I discover a problem with the quick power off function. After I wake my computer up from sleep mode/stand by mode, my 2x PATA storage hard drives which were connected via JMicron IDE port (the one near the lowest pci slot) would disappear from "My Computer" menu, only my SATA Seagate 320GB remain avaliable for access...
I have contact Asus tech support about it, and they only respond me saying "This is going to point to a hardware failure of the J-Micron controller on the motherboard." Could this be related to the BIO settings instead??? I am using Q6600 G0 with 2206 BIO, 320GB SATA (OS), 160GB PATA (storage), 250GB PATA (storage), DL-DVD burner connected via the other IDE port
MacClipper
09-03-2007, 12:09 AM
alexlyc, this is a Jmicron driver issue and it's needed for the P5W if you use S3 else Win XP will choke and complain of missing devices on S3 resume. Look back at my past posts in this thread to solve this.
Funny thing is that other C2D mobos (Commando, GA-P35C) I have tried did not require specific Jmicron drivers for S3 resume to work properly. Maybe the BIOS plays a part here too, P5W BIOS just isn't the nicest around so far- would be a much greater o'cing mobo if it has independent Vcore and EIST/C1E options.
alexlyc
09-03-2007, 01:08 AM
Thanks MacClipper, the JMicron JMB36X driver did fix it! Now I realize how bad Asus tech support is... rma my @$$...
MacClipper
09-03-2007, 01:18 AM
You are welcome. :)
Maybe the technical, marketing and aftersales support guys are not on talking terms. After all, the Asus manual also proclaims that the JMicron doesn't support ATAPI devices but it actually does and does it very well, in fact.
:D
kensweep
09-03-2007, 12:53 PM
Thanks Miniboy for your reply (and g'day to you in Melbourne!).
I have already installed the ACPI driver (I reckon, since Asus Probe needs it, it's something to do with allowing OS applications to interact with the fans speed or something). If I attempt to install it again a DOS-looking window flashes up and disappears too quick to read. So I'm still stuck. I wonder if anyone has had this prob when they know the onboard sound is disabled already?
What is (or are) mosfets that you mention?
And have you - or anyone - come to a consensus as to how accurate the second motherboard temperature sensor is, since we know the CPU one is crap?
Cheers again.
kensweep
09-03-2007, 12:55 PM
Hey Maxclipper, I disabled the JMicron IDE controller because it stops Acronis True Image working from outside Windows (i.e. restoring); True Image stalls.
<<HANNIBAL>>
09-03-2007, 01:46 PM
passed the 415 FSB too :)
here is my new record on air (3924.12 MHz):
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=238117
w2richwood
09-03-2007, 02:28 PM
wow one nice oc there good to see someone getting good clocks out of this board im happy with my e6400 es at 3.0
nrs250
09-03-2007, 07:46 PM
here is the details of the overclock shown if i use 400fsb it reboots when its about to load the applications in windows i tried upping vcore but it dont help any ideas.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/alpashm/untitled-1.jpg
settings used in bios
390x9
DDr2 at 780mhz memory is dominator 800mhz micron chips at 4-4-4-12
memory voltage 2.10v
cpu voltage 1.4750v
fsb 1.50v
mch 1.65v
ich 1.20v
hope this helps others reach a decent overclock on q6600
That does not work for me.
I have found FSB 333 to be my CPU max.
Is that Prime 95 stable?
For how long?
p5wdh
09-03-2007, 08:12 PM
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb25/p5wdh/asusp5wdhe6750.jpg
when i close the side panel the temp goes as high as 92 celsius at core temp? but when i remove the side panel the temp reduce from 92 to 66 (on full load). Is my temp ok? And i want to know what is the best overclocking for my core2duo e6750? what are the right values to be adjust to the bios. Any comments or suggestions is greatly appreciated...
w2richwood
09-03-2007, 08:31 PM
good clock but a lil on the warm side but then again you'll never run full load even gaming so probly ok
p5wdh
09-03-2007, 08:39 PM
ok.. by the way, which is better? the dram frequency or cpu core speed? which is better of the two? lower multiplier but higher dram frequency or higher multiplier but lower dram frquency?
w2richwood
09-03-2007, 09:44 PM
cpu fsb gives your more 1 & 1 is your best bet far as i know
eblaster101
09-04-2007, 09:34 AM
That does not work for me.
I have found FSB 333 to be my CPU max.
Is that Prime 95 stable?
For how long?
i aint checked it in prime95 used OCCTPT and i usually leave my pc on for 2days or so in a row before its shutdown.
i realised i need more mch i inscreased this. But haveing one problem which i had even with my e6600 wondering if you can help its to do with the usb ports sometimes my devices dont work cause their not recieving any power and i have to reboot for it to recieve power again things like usb dvb sticks not only this but my unlocking software which powers nokia phones through usb for me to work on them.
cheers
crazeconnolly
09-04-2007, 12:03 PM
hi all
I have a win ME Boot cd which i can boot with CD rom support.
works the same as a floppy disc.
I tried to flash my bios back to 1901 as i am 2206 at the moment.
but it said the bios was too old and to download a newer version.
Which procedure should i take to flash my bios back to the 1905 version?
chris
lawrywild
09-04-2007, 12:52 PM
Finally got my Q6600 :D
L720B058
1.262v VID :D
Running 3Ghz stock volts for now, can't go higher due to 4x1GB ram. Temps are better than my e6600. Proper stoked :)
gwolfman
09-04-2007, 01:13 PM
That statement is just not true. I have a Q6600 OC'd to 3 GHz
My temps were 54-55 on load Prime 95.
I modded the radiator and put in a Danger Den Black Ice Pro and it dropped load temps t0 44-48.
The Nautilus has some benefits:
1) no mess
2) reliable
3) decent WC (not extreme) but for $150 bucks its not bad.
Plus its moddable.
:up:
Do you have a link to where you purchased the Danger Den radiator?
Finally got my Q6600 :D
L720B058
1.262v VID :D
Running 3Ghz stock volts for now, can't go higher due to 4x1GB ram. Temps are better than my e6600. Proper stoked :)
Congratulation Lawrywild! What bios you are using? I like your revision of 2004 bios since there C1E and EIST are not linked to vCore, but I wondering are newer bios versions better for OC.
LUCI5R
09-04-2007, 01:52 PM
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=14&PFid=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false
Thanks mate!
nicepun
09-04-2007, 02:05 PM
hi all
I have a win ME Boot cd which i can boot with CD rom support.
works the same as a floppy disc.
I tried to flash my bios back to 1901 as i am 2206 at the moment.
but it said the bios was too old and to download a newer version.
Which procedure should i take to flash my bios back to the 1905 version?
chris
Search the web for Afudos 2.11 then try again....:p:
nrs250
09-04-2007, 02:55 PM
Do you have a link to where you purchased the Danger Den radiator?
Here is the link for the radiator:
http://www.dangerden.com/store/home.php?cat=84
Here is a link for a guide on modding (all credit to this guy who did it first):
http:/http://forums.legitreviews.com/about6397.html?sid=fca5378a7e9f3c4c564364f4b1834fb f
He used the Black Ice Extreme and felt it was too big. I agree and took his advice and went with the Black Ice Pro from DangerDen. The Extreme is very think and placing it back in the case, while doable, is very tough.
You will need the blue poly-elbows he describes and a dremel to mod the fan housing. Kathi at Danger Den is very helpful and will send you the right stuff if you ask.
w2richwood
09-04-2007, 03:54 PM
Finally got my Q6600 :D
L720B058
1.262v VID :D
Running 3Ghz stock volts for now, can't go higher due to 4x1GB ram. Temps are better than my e6600. Proper stoked :)
:up: congrats man keep us posted wish i had your old e6600 oh well some day
crazeconnolly
09-04-2007, 06:05 PM
Thanks to anyone who gave me advice on flashing my BIOS.
My boot CD and Afudos 2.11 worked fine. And i reverted back to 1901 Bios.
cheers
c.
mstp2009
09-04-2007, 07:47 PM
Finally got my Q6600 :D
L720B058
1.262v VID :D
Running 3Ghz stock volts for now, can't go higher due to 4x1GB ram. Temps are better than my e6600. Proper stoked :)
So what kind of OC do you get w/ 2 sticks of RAM?
I'm hitting only 3.15GHz on my G0 Q6600 w/ 4GB of RAM. The thing that bothers me is that it does this practically at stock, but more volts doesn't yield any increase in stability.
If I can't get the OC stable at higher speeds, I may dump this board in favor of an X38 (once I see how well they are clocking).
pH(x)
09-04-2007, 10:19 PM
ok.. by the way, which is better? the dram frequency or cpu core speed? which is better of the two? lower multiplier but higher dram frequency or higher multiplier but lower dram frquency?
CPU:FSB ratio 1:1 is the best option. You could plan for. As anything higher like 5:4 is a waste of power.
p5wdh
09-05-2007, 05:15 AM
CPU:FSB ratio 1:1 is the best option. You could plan for. As anything higher like 5:4 is a waste of power.
thanks for the info... the only i problem i have now is the temperature... its hotter when i run orthos... by the way, my specs are:
Asus P5WDH-Deluxe
Intel Core2Duo E6750 (overclock at 3.6Ghz)
3gb Corsair Dual Channel PC6400 (2x1gb and 2x512)
250gb WD SATA II 16mb cache
Palit 8800GTS 320mb 320bit
HEC Powersupply AB 550watts
Lian Li Casing B20 <the link http://www.lian-li.com/product/product06.php?pr_index=27&cl_index=1&sc_index=1&ss_index=5&type=b>
roger_h99.nor
09-05-2007, 09:25 AM
http://event.asus.com/mb/45nm/
Finally on the '45nm-list'. Good news.
Bios 0203 must be a typo??
purecain
09-05-2007, 10:40 AM
if i could switch my p5wdh deluxe rev1 for the latest revision at no cost, just the messing around swapping them over... would it be worth it???
would i get a better overclock if its a perfect board with the higher mch and possibly other refinement through each revision...
would i have to change anything in the os or will everything run just the same. wondering about the chipset drivers and firmware. or will everything be stored on my hard drives. will it boot up a G0 with an early bios or should i just swap the bios chips... or should i just hope it boots and then flash....
thanks for any assistance, i just like to be reasonably sure about what i'm doing.....
Hey Maxclipper, I disabled the JMicron IDE controller because it stops Acronis True Image working from outside Windows (i.e. restoring); True Image stalls.
Exactly. It stuffs up Ghost as well. It's a piece of junk, as it has been for years. Asus should stop using this trash on top end motherboards and go back to Promise or something better. The best thing to do with JMicron is to disable it in the bios the first time you boot the motherboard.
I'm hitting only 3.15GHz on my G0 Q6600 w/ 4GB of RAM. The thing that bothers me is that it does this practically at stock, but more volts doesn't yield any increase in stability.
I had the same problem. Switched to Asus P5K-E/Wifi. Now at 3.6Ghz - same cpu.
GLENBOY
09-05-2007, 02:41 PM
if i could switch my p5wdh deluxe rev1 for the latest revision at no cost, just the messing around swapping them over... would it be worth it???
would i get a better overclock if its a perfect board with the higher mch and possibly other refinement through each revision...
would i have to change anything in the os or will everything run just the same. wondering about the chipset drivers and firmware. or will everything be stored on my hard drives. will it boot up a G0 with an early bios or should i just swap the bios chips... or should i just hope it boots and then flash....
thanks for any assistance, i just like to be reasonably sure about what i'm doing.....
yes you could change the board and you would not need to put any drivers etc back , but to be honest if you were going to swap out your board you might as well get the x38, or i would keep what you have already imho, if you did change the board if you used bios 2103 thats a stable one and has the cpu codes for the G0 steppings
nrs250
09-05-2007, 03:57 PM
yes you could change the board and you would not need to put any drivers etc back , but to be honest if you were going to swap out your board you might as well get the x38, or i would keep what you have already imho, if you did change the board if you used bios 2103 thats a stable one and has the cpu codes for the G0 steppings
A lot of people on boards seem to swap out boards like they were changing socks. I have a question.. When I get my board stable...I have tons of settings, program installs (maybe 15 must have programs for me)..bookmarks (I know these are easy to save) etc. Does everyone do a fresh OS install...What is your method for swapping out a board... Does anyone do a swap with the old install intact...i.e. a Windows Repair install. I would be fascinated because many times for me it is not the cost but the headache of losing a night's sleep having to rebuild the new board to the way I used to have it and the way I liked it.
I am trying to see if there is a less troublesome way to approach this process. With X38 and X48 coming out I am excited at the prospect of new OC options but I am trying to prepare for it as best I can.
purecain
09-05-2007, 04:20 PM
no i have the board for a friend who doesnt mind if i swap mine out for the later revision.... at least he knows mine is stable and works.....
kensweep
09-05-2007, 04:33 PM
Just don't break anything when you do the transplant, easy to do with all the components that'll be lying around!
I haven't given up on my unknown PCI woe from the other page, if anyone has another idea.
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