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yoman
05-09-2007, 04:37 PM
What mem divider and fsb?

400Mhz FSB MEM dividier 1:1
those 400Mhz of FSB is stabile and tested couple of hours with Prime so thats not the prob i think

if u meant about mem div and FSB for 1150Mhz i dont really reember it wasnt this board

cujo
05-09-2007, 05:30 PM
No I haven't... I didn't think it'd be a CD problem. The drivers are on the floppy disk, and it's supposed to read those at the "Copying files" portion of the setup, but it only tries to read them from the CD. It's weird, cuz it reads the files fine off of the floppy when I'm at the "Press S" stage.

the only time i've ever had a problem copying files from the cd on install was either a bad cdrom or ram.

crazyea
05-09-2007, 08:42 PM
No I haven't... I didn't think it'd be a CD problem. The drivers are on the floppy disk, and it's supposed to read those at the "Copying files" portion of the setup, but it only tries to read them from the CD. It's weird, cuz it reads the files fine off of the floppy when I'm at the "Press S" stage.

Are these drivers made via the m/b cd or downloaded from the net (ie intel's website)?

BulldogPO
05-09-2007, 10:12 PM
I'm wondering if my memory has died. They are D9GMH and 120mm fan cooled.
I have been feeding them 2.25V and they are working at DDR945 rock solid(378MHz FSB and 4:5), timings are 4-4-3-1.
Now after I flashed bios 2004 final my comp became unstable at any settings, no matter what FSB and even with 1:1 divider and timings by SPD memtest86 gives errors if Vdimm is under 2.3V.
I will try other memorys today.

cbell
05-10-2007, 06:17 AM
Are these drivers made via the m/b cd or downloaded from the net (ie intel's website)?

Problem solved. Turned out that it was the CD. I downloaded a new XP CD, and that one worked fine. It's odd though, the one I was trying to install with in the first place was a legal retail version, and the setup wasn't running properly. It's not like the CD was scratched or something, cuz there was no read error, it was just skipping a step in the installation. Ah well, it's working now. Thanks for the help

jnolla
05-10-2007, 07:30 AM
Need Help:

If I do this:
FSB Wall at around 360-370 fsb - Enable SPD timings option in Chipset section of bios.

I can get the system running stable at 3.6Ghz; but I'm not able to set timings on the Memory. I want to run at 5-5-5-15-42-3-11-7-13. Can anyone tell me how I can set these up havnig SPD timings Enabled?

Thanks

Gig4moller
05-10-2007, 07:36 AM
Get MemSet 3.2 and have it apply those timings each time you boot.

sesdave
05-10-2007, 11:38 AM
I'm wondering if my memory has died. They are D9GMH and 120mm fan cooled.
I have been feeding them 2.25V and they are working at DDR945 rock solid(378MHz FSB and 4:5), timings are 4-4-3-1.
Now after I flashed bios 2004 final my comp became unstable at any settings, no matter what FSB and even with 1:1 divider and timings by SPD memtest86 gives errors if Vdimm is under 2.3V.
I will try other memorys today.

I take it you have flashed back to original BIOS u were using to check the memory before deciding it may have died!. Id be suprised if your memory has died - 2.25v isnt excessive for D9s at all. More like the 2004 BIOS doesnt like the settings/memory u are using .

jagt
05-10-2007, 02:06 PM
How's you experience using dividers on this board? I normally run 400x9, and I just can't get the damn thing to post using the 1000MHz divider, no matter what timings and voltage I give the dimms. They're all D9GMH and should be perfectly capable of doing so. Highest I'm able to boot using this divider is around 390MHz FSB. Any tips?

cbell
05-10-2007, 02:39 PM
Got my RAID up and running... I ran a test with HD Tach, but I can't find a benchmark to compare my setup to. Are these numbers decent? (I'm not sure how to upload a pic)

Burst Speed: 367.9 MB/s
Random Access: 13.2 ms
CPU Utilization: 1%
Average Read: 90.7 MB/s

2 x Seagate 7200 16MB buffer 320GB in RAID-0

sesdave
05-10-2007, 03:02 PM
How's you experience using dividers on this board? I normally run 400x9, and I just can't get the damn thing to post using the 1000MHz divider, no matter what timings and voltage I give the dimms. They're all D9GMH and should be perfectly capable of doing so. Highest I'm able to boot using this divider is around 390MHz FSB. Any tips?

Umfortunately for me I got rev 2.1 sticks which are promos so no chance of much higher than stock speed. You have 4x1GB sticks which will stress the memory controller and the board a lot more than 2 sticks so you should be pretty happy running 390 on a 4:5 divider. 10 mhz on FSB is going to make not a lot of difference at the end of the day.

sbinh
05-10-2007, 03:07 PM
How's you experience using dividers on this board? I normally run 400x9, and I just can't get the damn thing to post using the 1000MHz divider, no matter what timings and voltage I give the dimms. They're all D9GMH and should be perfectly capable of doing so. Highest I'm able to boot using this divider is around 390MHz FSB. Any tips?


Have you tried set RAM timing SPD to ENABLED and also increased FSB voltage ???

jagt
05-10-2007, 03:09 PM
Umfortunately for me I got rev 2.1 sticks which are promos so no chance of much higher than stock speed. You have 4x1GB sticks which will stress the memory controller and the board a lot more than 2 sticks so you should be pretty happy running 390 on a 4:5 divider. 10 mhz on FSB is going to make not a lot of difference at the end of the day.

That's true, but the same thing happens if I use 2x1GB. Also, it posts at 390, but that doesn't make it stable. It hard-locks memtest. I need to work more on it, but I'd like to keep my 400FSB for 3.6GHz (nice round number). How much performance gain are we talking about going from 800 to 1000MHz with a divider?

jagt
05-10-2007, 03:11 PM
Have you tried set RAM timing SPD to ENABLED and also increased FSB voltage ???

No. SPD on this board sets my RAM to something awful like 6-5-5-15 :nono:
I have maxed both northbridge and FSB voltage.

sbinh
05-10-2007, 03:12 PM
No. SPD on this board sets my RAM to something awful like 6-5-5-15 :nono:
I have maxed both northbridge and FSB voltage.

Nobody likes that .. but by doing so, you can boot into windows and use memset to make changes ... :D

I can run my E6600@ 3906Mhz ... on water .... FSB:RAM = 1:1 .....

cujo
05-10-2007, 06:36 PM
anyone know why i wouldn't be able to change the cas in memset? it shows options 3-6 but it won't let me change it from 5.

BulldogPO
05-10-2007, 10:05 PM
Damn, now I have problem with brand new P5W DH v1.04G and E6600, just does not post, no video.
Waterchill NB block and Swiftec Apogee.
I try to find PC beeper so I can hear if mobo gives any errorcodes.

sesdave
05-11-2007, 04:57 AM
That's true, but the same thing happens if I use 2x1GB. Also, it posts at 390, but that doesn't make it stable. It hard-locks memtest. I need to work more on it, but I'd like to keep my 400FSB for 3.6GHz (nice round number). How much performance gain are we talking about going from 800 to 1000MHz with a divider?

Check this arcticle out - lots of detail and the author knows his stuff. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/print/core2duo-memory-guide.html
according to this It looks like you would be better 1:1 with tight timings at 400FSB.

cbell
05-11-2007, 07:02 AM
Does anyone know if volume write-back cache should be enabled in the Matrix Storage Manager when using a RAID 0 array? Intel says it's only for RAID 5, but when I enabled it, my HDTach results increased by a rediculous amount (Burst Speed went up by over 10x).

Does enabling this feature actually make this big a difference? Or does it somehow just screw up the results from HDTach?

jagt
05-11-2007, 07:45 AM
What does this "Performance mode" thing do? It can be set to auto, standard or turbo. I've always left it at auto.

lawrywild
05-11-2007, 08:11 AM
I've always used Turbo but never seen any difference between them..

GFORCE100
05-11-2007, 08:16 AM
I've always used Turbo but never seen any difference between them..

It increases the FSB slightly and also overclocks the GPU from what I could gather. I'm not sure how it decides to overclock the GPU but I definitely remember it doing this when I had a 6800GTO on the then P5AD2-E Premium.

BulldogPO
05-11-2007, 10:52 AM
I solved my problem.
D9GMH´s are broken, kind of as they wont even post at 2.1V anymore.

Burner27
05-11-2007, 12:40 PM
It increases the FSB slightly and also overclocks the GPU from what I could gather. I'm not sure how it decides to overclock the GPU but I definitely remember it doing this when I had a 6800GTO on the then P5AD2-E Premium.

I doubt it overclocks the GPU as I have mine set to turbo and CPUz reports my FSB as 1067.4. It might overclock the PCIe port a wee bit but it does nothing to the GPU as my 8800GTX reports stock speeds.

davexl
05-11-2007, 09:52 PM
Hi guys,

I want to take a pair of hard drives that are currently in the EZYRAID (RAID0) my older P5W-DH, and put them in a newer P5W-DH.

Can I just plug them in and hope, or is this naive, suicidal and asking them to be wiped? :nono:

Geek77
05-11-2007, 10:25 PM
I dont know if you noticed but the RAM timings are in different order on P5W-DH.

That is why many people have to use "by SPD", the memory won't boot with incorrect timings.

I passed through this myself, finally noticed the timings order and switched RAS precharge & RAS to CAS delay, no more instability, all workin like a charm.

Check on your systems, it is possible that they are switched and if they are - try configuring them manually instead of using "by SPD".

http://geek77.no.sapo.pt/Tests/BIOS.PNG

Before figuring this out - I also had "by SPD", and it was UGLY - the motherboard set them to 5-6-6-18 or something...

BulldogPO
05-11-2007, 11:19 PM
Now I found new problem, my NEC AD-7170 DVD writter´s Burfn proof feature does not work anymore, I´m using Vista X64 and programs like Nero and ImgBurn says it works but everytime when buffer runs out there is visible empty track disc.
I do´nt know if it is motherboard/bios related or OS/driver related problem.
Read speeds and write speeds are ok.
Anyone with similar problem?

cujo
05-12-2007, 12:22 AM
I dont know if you noticed but the RAM timings are in different order on P5W-DH.

That is why many people have to use "by SPD", the memory won't boot with incorrect timings.

I passed through this myself, finally noticed the timings order and switched RAS precharge & RAS to CAS delay, no more instability, all workin like a charm.

Check on your systems, it is possible that they are switched and if they are - try configuring them manually instead of using "by SPD".

http://geek77.no.sapo.pt/Tests/BIOS.PNG

Before figuring this out - I also had "by SPD", and it was UGLY - the motherboard set them to 5-6-6-18 or something...

i actually use the 5-6-6-18 timings. my super pi 1m result is better than using memset to make my timings 5-4-4-12. better by almost a full second.

for some reason memset won't let me change my cas from 5 to anything else. no one here seems to be able to answer why that would be...

lawrywild
05-12-2007, 02:52 AM
I dont know if you noticed but the RAM timings are in different order on P5W-DH.

That is why many people have to use "by SPD", the memory won't boot with incorrect timings.

I passed through this myself, finally noticed the timings order and switched RAS precharge & RAS to CAS delay, no more instability, all workin like a charm.

Check on your systems, it is possible that they are switched and if they are - try configuring them manually instead of using "by SPD".


Before figuring this out - I also had "by SPD", and it was UGLY - the motherboard set them to 5-6-6-18 or something...

Yeah, we all know that already and if you truly have the spd issue it doesn't make a difference. It's the ram, I know because I had it with my A-DATA's then I could boot manual timings with Crucial Ballistix.

@Cujo:

CAS Latency can NEVER be adjusted on the fly, it can only be set in BIOS.

TR1GG3R
05-12-2007, 04:11 AM
how many people really use the built in wifi on this board ? coz for those that do i think mines broke :( my nokia n95 used to pick it up nobother then 1 afternoon just died it still looks as tho it connects but i get no gateway reply on the phone :( not a clue about networking so ??? and it can be the fone as i reset it and updated the firmware on it also im using the recent m$ drivers for it all the settings are the same as it used to work i have a feeling its vista uac but it didnt harm it before :( so if some 1 could shed a light on my problem thanks

jimmsch
05-12-2007, 04:24 AM
Hi guys,

I want to take a pair of hard drives that are currently in the EZYRAID (RAID0) my older P5W-DH, and put them in a newer P5W-DH.

Can I just plug them in and hope, or is this naive, suicidal and asking them to be wiped? :nono:

I tried this and lost everything that ws on the discs. What happened to me was when I moved the jumper from the default RAID 1 position to the RAID 0 position and went into BIOS to enable the RAID it wiped the drives clean upon switching RAID modes.

Maybe if you switch the RAID modes before you attach the SATA cables you might get lucky, I don't know. In any case I strongly suggest that you backup the contents of the RAID array if it is something important to you..

pH(x)
05-12-2007, 04:56 AM
I've reached 3.33GHz Dual Orthos 20hr stable. But I can't post my benchmarks in the Overclock DB because I sanded off (20 micron) my stepping information to :(

I would love to though.

Lapped E6600 @ 3.33GHz (1.45v actual)
Micron D9 PC28500 (@ PC27100 5-5-5-15 2.2v)
Asus P5W-DH Deluxe
VMCH 1.55v
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro

CPU: 40C idle 49C load
NB: 40C idle 43C load

FELIX
05-12-2007, 08:55 AM
i actually use the 5-6-6-18 timings. my super pi 1m result is better than using memset to make my timings 5-4-4-12. better by almost a full second.

for some reason memset won't let me change my cas from 5 to anything else. no one here seems to be able to answer why that would be...

I disable changing #Cas in memset. Impossible to change it under Windows on DDR2.

lawrywild
05-12-2007, 09:42 AM
I disable changing #Cas in memset. Impossible to change it under Windows on DDR2.

DDR was the same, no? and probably DDR3 aswell..

sesdave
05-12-2007, 12:26 PM
I've reached 3.33GHz Dual Orthos 20hr stable. But I can't post my benchmarks in the Overclock DB because I sanded off (20 micron) my stepping information to :(

I would love to though.

Lapped E6600 @ 3.33GHz (1.45v actual)
Micron D9 PC28500 (@ PC27100 5-5-5-15 2.2v)
Asus P5W-DH Deluxe
VMCH 1.55v
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro

CPU: 40C idle 49C load
NB: 40C idle 43C load

These coretemp/TAM temps ? You should be able to get a little higher with a later batch e6600. I have lapped mine too -didnt make much difference to temps idle 48 - load 58 so it must have been fairly flat already - but the CPU can take these temps. . You are running with a 4:5 divider - check my previous post re 1:1 vs 4:5 ifor FSB 400 or below. I run orthos stable @3.6 with memory 1:1 with 4,4,4,12,4 with 400 FSB with Bios vcore 1.5v(mount varies CPU to CPU) other settings FSB=1.3,MCH=1.65,ICH=1.2. I would think your RAM should run DDR 800 4,4,4,12 or tighter no problem Disable everything in the BIOS you dont recognise or arent using , Give it a go!

FELIX
05-12-2007, 02:30 PM
DDR was the same, no? and probably DDR3 aswell..

...no, possible to change #Cas under windows with DDR, on 865/875 915 chipsets and A64.
Probably impossible with DDR3.

lawrywild
05-12-2007, 03:20 PM
...no, possible to change #Cas under windows with DDR, on 865/875 915 chipsets and A64.
Probably impossible with DDR3.

A64 yeh true, but I owned 865 and 875 and neither could change CAS on the fly. Both instant windows freeze, like DDR2.

imgeorgelin
05-12-2007, 03:50 PM
I just added an extra hard drive using the Jmicron connector because all the other ones are used. But I can't format the drive to FAT and only NTFS is available. Is there a fix for this? Thanks!

morgan22
05-12-2007, 03:54 PM
Guys! I really need your help !!!!
I have P5W DH Deluxe and 2x1Gg Crucial DDR2-800 with 4-4-4-12 @ 2.2V
The problem is that I managed to boot only with 1 dimm inserted to the third slot. It does not matter what stick I use - only while inserted in the third slot, it works. I tried all different BIOS version from 1506 to 2004, tried to switch memory timings from manual 4-4-4-12 to SPD. Nothing helped. Sent mal to Crucial - they know nothing about this problem. Any jelp would be appreciated.
If somebody has the same modules (Part Number bl12864aa804.16fd ), please attach your exact configuration in BIOS.
Thanks

UZ7
05-13-2007, 12:56 AM
wow... so my system was dead for about two weeks, wasnt really in a hurry to fix it cause i had finals and i was using my laptop... after classes ended i tried to boot up my pc and it wouldnt run. I remember the last thing I did was flash my BIOS to 2004, when it wouldn't boot up i thought it was a corrupted bios since it wouldnt post up at all (no bios post/no beeps/no video/nothing but fan)

I went and requested a new BIOS from ASUS, came in 3 days later and replaced my old bios, tried again and it wouldnt post up (the new BIOS had 2004)... I was like wtf, so I took out everything out of my rig and tried to check each part to see which one was causing the problem. I tested out the ram from my brothers comp and it posted... so I was thinking it was the ram, I tried each stick I had (1gbx2) and neither worked... so what I was thinking my ram was dead

my last attempt was i booted my rig with my bros ram and flashed the bios back to 1901 (was 2004) then I rebooted changed my settings to my old stuff and put my ram back in... and guess what? it worked... bah all this time it was the BIOS not liking my ram specs below (D9GMH)...

so basically im just throwing this out there just incase someone is experiencing the same thing as me... I was about to buy a new motherboard (I will later on though :P) or new ram... and all in all it was just a ram picky bios...

oh and remember when you flash your bios to always clear your cmos :P

roger_h99.nor
05-13-2007, 11:42 AM
Good findings UZ7.

Let's see what the 2004 changelog says:
Enhance memory compatibility :slapass:

UZ7
05-13-2007, 04:43 PM
Enhance memory compatibility my ass lol! oh well... wow it feels so weird going back to my pc after getting used to my laptop...

miochza
05-13-2007, 06:54 PM
Anyone use their Wifi-AP solo as a Soft-AP? I can't get my laptop to get an IP address from it. It can connect, but tells me "limited or no connectivity" so no IP address. ICS is enabled on the Marvell-Yukon Ethernet adapter.

TWY
05-13-2007, 10:05 PM
Whenever I shut down my PC from Windows, my board doesn't shut off immediately, the HDDs and fans turn off, but the power LED remains on for about 2 secs before going off.

This didn't bother me until I installed a 8800GTX. When the power LED fades out after the 2 secs, the 8800GTX's beeper makes a short beep before the whole system 'completely shuts down'. It's the kind of warning beep you get if you forget to plug in your PCIe connectors.

Is there anyway to resolve this?

sbinh
05-14-2007, 07:38 AM
These are what I have .........

SuperPi_1M

4005MHz
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/363/superpi1m4005554512781kn9.jpg

3952MHz
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3214/superpi1m3952553512937jh0.jpg


SuperPi_32M

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/599/superpi32m3952553513126zl6.jpg

experttech2007
05-14-2007, 10:08 AM
i actually use the 5-6-6-18 timings. my super pi 1m result is better than using memset to make my timings 5-4-4-12. better by almost a full second.

for some reason memset won't let me change my cas from 5 to anything else. no one here seems to be able to answer why that would be...

Yup, ditto here. Its a memory+chipset combination problem

BTW you can step down the multiplier to run 3.2 Ghz (400x8) - runs very stable for me. Easy speed increase from the 3.0 Ghz u r running, plus you can force the memory to run at DDR2-800.

cbell
05-14-2007, 10:17 AM
I can't get my FSB past 379 with SPD off or about 395 with SPD on. I've tried using memset in windows to change the timings, but that didn't work for me. Everything seems to be running perfectly at 379 FSB with 4-4-4-4 timings, 1.45V, and auto vMCH, but as soon as I up it to 380, I start getting Orthos rounding errors. My temps seem alright with TAT (idle from 20C-25C, max load from 40C-45C, depending on room temp). Increasing the voltage doesn't seem to help anything, though I haven't played with the MCH voltage much. I'm using BIOS 1901.

What is a safe voltage to have this chip always running at? I've seen people post voltages as high as 1.7V, which seems really high to me. Then again, I haven't read one post about someone actually frying this chip. Also, what MCH voltage should I be using? I can go up as high as 1.85V.

sesdave
05-14-2007, 10:29 AM
I can't get my FSB past 379 with SPD off or about 395 with SPD on. I've tried using memset in windows to change the timings, but that didn't work for me. Everything seems to be running perfectly at 379 FSB with 4-4-4-4 timings, 1.45V, and auto vMCH, but as soon as I up it to 380, I start getting Orthos rounding errors. My temps seem alright with TAT (idle from 20C-25C, max load from 40C-45C, depending on room temp). Increasing the voltage doesn't seem to help anything, though I haven't played with the MCH voltage much. I'm using BIOS 1901.

What is a safe voltage to have this chip always running at? I've seen people post voltages as high as 1.7V, which seems really high to me. Then again, I haven't read one post about someone actually frying this chip. Also, what MCH voltage should I be using? I can go up as high as 1.85V.

Nice temps - you living on a glacier? I run a lot higher on air. Most CPU on air seem to need about 1.5 or more (amount varies CPU to CPU) to reach 3.6. My oher seetings runnng @3.6GHz are FSB=1.3,MCH=1.65,ICH=1.2. I increase MCH (NB) to 1.65 to stabalise for anythig beween 380-420 as a rule. then 1.75v if going higher As per CPU seems to vary board to board some get higher with lower. I would loosen memory timings to 4,4,4,12 until you get the higher FSB sorted. Disable everything in the BIOS you dont recognise or arent using e.g virtulisastion etc.

Burner27
05-14-2007, 11:46 AM
So what's the verdict on BIOS v2004? I am on 1707 still and I am of the mind of "if it ain't broke don't fix it" about moving to 2004.

lawrywild
05-14-2007, 12:06 PM
Just stick with 1707 if it's all running good, I doubt you'll see any increase going to 2004, I didn't..

Burner27
05-14-2007, 12:25 PM
Just stick with 1707 if it's all running good, I doubt you'll see any increase going to 2004, I didn't..

Thanks for the feedback.

cbell
05-14-2007, 02:29 PM
Nice temps - you living on a glacier? I run a lot higher on air. Most CPU on air seem to need about 1.5 or more (amount varies CPU to CPU) to reach 3.6. My oher seetings runnng @3.6GHz are FSB=1.3,MCH=1.65,ICH=1.2. I increase MCH (NB) to 1.65 to stabalise for anythig beween 380-420 as a rule. then 1.75v if going higher As per CPU seems to vary board to board some get higher with lower. I would loosen memory timings to 4,4,4,12 until you get the higher FSB sorted. Disable everything in the BIOS you dont recognise or arent using e.g virtulisastion etc.

Sorry, I meant to say Coretemp... TAT shows a few degrees higher than that. I'll try using 1.65 MCH and 1.5 vcore with 4-4-4-12. Is it safe to run your CPU at 1.5V all of the time? Just asking because it's quite a bit higher than the specs from intel which show a max of 1.325V. I don't care if I shorten the life, as long as it lasts a couple of years.

Also, can someone clarify this for me, because I keep getting different answers. What program do people usually report their temps from? I'm at part load, and Speedfan currently says 22C, Coretemp says 25C/28C, and TAT says 27C/32C. Which temp am I supposed to report?

cujo
05-14-2007, 03:08 PM
Yup, ditto here. Its a memory+chipset combination problem

BTW you can step down the multiplier to run 3.2 Ghz (400x8) - runs very stable for me. Easy speed increase from the 3.0 Ghz u r running, plus you can force the memory to run at DDR2-800.

thanks for the reply. i've actually just bought a p5k deluxe cause i'm sick of this mobo. with raid 0 on easy raid, 80% of the time at boot it doesn't see the drive so i've got to restart it. combine that with the inconsistent frustrating overclocking i'm fed up.

i know you're thinking why not use the ich7 ports for raid but i want to install a 5th sata device and i REALLY don't want to use the jmicron crap.

yobi
05-15-2007, 09:36 AM
or wait for X38

sesdave
05-15-2007, 10:13 AM
Sorry, I meant to say Coretemp... TAT shows a few degrees higher than that. I'll try using 1.65 MCH and 1.5 vcore with 4-4-4-12. Is it safe to run your CPU at 1.5V all of the time? Just asking because it's quite a bit higher than the specs from intel which show a max of 1.325V. I don't care if I shorten the life, as long as it lasts a couple of years.

Also, can someone clarify this for me, because I keep getting different answers. What program do people usually report their temps from? I'm at part load, and Speedfan currently says 22C, Coretemp says 25C/28C, and TAT says 27C/32C. Which temp am I supposed to report?

Coretemp is what u use to report internal core temperatures.The data is collected from a Digital Thermal Sensor which is located in each individual processing core, near the hottest part. Running 24/7 upto 1.55v on air if you have good low temps should be fine - you are overclocking after all!.

cbell
05-16-2007, 07:38 AM
Coretemp is what u use to report internal core temperatures.The data is collected from a Digital Thermal Sensor which is located in each individual processing core, near the hottest part. Running 24/7 upto 1.55v on air if you have good low temps should be fine - you are overclocking after all!.

Thanks for the info, I won't worry about setting my voltage to 1.5V 24/7. Is yours set to 1.5V in BIOS, or is that after vdroop?

The reason I asked about the temps is that I wasn't sure if I was supposed to report the Tcase or Tjunction, and Coretemp gives Tjunction instead of Tcase. It's hard to get a good idea of whether my temps are good or not when everyone I'm trying to compare them to is using different sensor programs and reporting different kinds of temps. Would you say that 25/27 are good idle Tjunction temps? Thanks again.

sesdave
05-16-2007, 10:18 AM
Thanks for the info, I won't worry about setting my voltage to 1.5V 24/7. Is yours set to 1.5V in BIOS, or is that after vdroop?

The reason I asked about the temps is that I wasn't sure if I was supposed to report the Tcase or Tjunction, and Coretemp gives Tjunction instead of Tcase. It's hard to get a good idea of whether my temps are good or not when everyone I'm trying to compare them to is using different sensor programs and reporting different kinds of temps. Would you say that 25/27 are good idle Tjunction temps? Thanks again.

I run 1.5v set in BIOS vcore. For comparision I run 48c idle - 58 load using coretemp. So compared with me you have very good temps!.

cbell
05-16-2007, 10:37 AM
Great, thanks for the reply. I'll try pushing it to a stable 3.6GHz again tonight and I'll let you know what my temps are then. I'm sure I'll notice very little difference in speed between 3.42 and 3.6, but at 3.6 I can say that I'm getting a 50% overclock, which is a nice round number ;)

cbell
05-16-2007, 03:30 PM
Sweet... I'm Orthos stable at 3.6Ghz with 1.4875V and 1.55 vMCH. I set my ram back to 4-4-4-4 2.1V, and it's working great. My full load temp fluctuates between 55 and 60C in CoreTemp... not sure what the idle temp is since I'm still running Orthos right now. Anyway, just wanted to say it's working and thanks for the help!

BTW, is it safe to up the MCH voltage if I don't have any kind of extra cooling on my NB? All I did was replace the thermal compound with AS5 and took off that weird cover on the heatsink.

Eastcoasthandle
05-16-2007, 06:27 PM
If you have a revision 1.04 board does it matter which bios you update to? If someone has a 1402 bios should they attempt to update?
As you already know this is the MB that has the increased voltage for mch, etc.

sesdave
05-17-2007, 07:00 AM
Sweet... I'm Orthos stable at 3.6Ghz with 1.4875V and 1.55 vMCH. I set my ram back to 4-4-4-4 2.1V, and it's working great. My full load temp fluctuates between 55 and 60C in CoreTemp... not sure what the idle temp is since I'm still running Orthos right now. Anyway, just wanted to say it's working and thanks for the help!

BTW, is it safe to up the MCH voltage if I don't have any kind of extra cooling on my NB? All I did was replace the thermal compound with AS5 and took off that weird cover on the heatsink.

Nice o/c - you can probably get more out of the CPU if it will do 3.6 on 1.485v as long as the memory will run 1:1. MCH increase of .1v isnt that much but helps stablity- I stuck a small 40mm fan on it to be sure. Check the MB temps. MBM 5 version 5.3.7.2 reports temps and volts okay on this board with a little calibration. I stuck a post in this thread previously as did others.

cbell
05-17-2007, 08:19 AM
Thanks for the program, I'll give it a try as soon as I get home. Is this program capable of reporting the NB temps? I thought that the temp sensor on this board was located in the SB. Also, the board comes with a small NB cooler, but it warns you not to use it if you have active cooling on your CPU or else it will mess up the air flow. Is anyone using that fan? I think I'll go ahead and try it out and see if it affects my CPU temps.

Console
05-17-2007, 08:25 AM
I dont have this MB ( or ne intel for that matter or DDR2) but Im trying to help a friend OC his system ( over the phone) . I will list what I have tryed so far ne imput small or large is a great help .

So far this is what I have had him do .

updated bios to 2004
Set ram Divider @ 533
Under Chip set disable By spd
Vcore set to 1.4

I am Aiming for 3.2 with this setup .

He has a p5w dh / e6420 / d9 2x1gig ram /stock cooling.

So far we have hit 385x8 . It passed Super Pi 1m and 10 min of orthos. But was random reseting in CSS .

Like I said I dont know much about these new toys , Should I get him to up the MCH and NB voltage ?
Thx

sesdave
05-17-2007, 10:05 AM
I dont have this MB ( or ne intel for that matter or DDR2) but Im trying to help a friend OC his system ( over the phone) . I will list what I have tryed so far ne imput small or large is a great help .

So far this is what I have had him do .

updated bios to 2004
Set ram Divider @ 533
Under Chip set disable By spd
Vcore set to 1.4

I am Aiming for 3.2 with this setup .

He has a p5w dh / e6420 / d9 2x1gig ram /stock cooling.

So far we have hit 385x8 . It passed Super Pi 1m and 10 min of orthos. But was random reseting in CSS .

Like I said I dont know much about these new toys , Should I get him to up the MCH and NB voltage ?
Thx

MCH is the NB setting. As with any CPU overclock BIOS settings for memory,Vcore,NB,SB and other settings will decided on what you can achieve Read the first page on his thread and this setup guide may be of use http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardw...ict197995.html.

rodemannetje
05-17-2007, 12:06 PM
Link does not work for me.

~aoe~
05-17-2007, 12:57 PM
Has anyone managed to put a Thermalright HR-05 heatsink on the NB of this motherboard?

I bought some and have installed one on the SB, but the NB uses the clip type installation, and the clip provided will not work (although the installation instructions illustrate a different 'universal' clip that would work if it was supplied).

I know Thermalright officially state that it's not compatible with this board (due to the heatpipe arrangement), but I would be prepared to forego the mosfet cooling if I can get this on the NB.

nifty
05-17-2007, 02:51 PM
Hi aoe, I had the same problem, so what I did - you're not gonna believe it - but I used AS5 and screwed the HR-05 to the top of the nb cooler, and - you're not gonna believe it - it worked unreal. Before - nb heatsink very hot to touch @ 1.65mch. Now - nb heatsink only just warm. I've now lapped the HR-05 and will lap the top of the fins on the nb cooler before glueing the HR-05 back on top with thermal adhesive. I understand if some of you think this is whacked.

~aoe~
05-17-2007, 03:33 PM
That is an ingenious solution :clap:

I ended up reseating the original HS + heatpipe and putting a small fan on the top of the NB. Seems ok, but would really like to get that HR-05 on. The annoying thing is that the installation instructions show an illustration of a retaining clip that would work (2 hooks on each end oriented perpendicular to each other) but this is not the retaining clip that was supplied.

I've recently changed my case (from CoolerMaster Stacker STC-T01 to Silverstone TJ-07), and the ventilation on this new case isn't as good. I've been working on improving both the air circulation and cooling (additional 120mm front intake fan, HR-05 on SB, replaced Scythe infinity with Thermalright Ultra120 Exteme, Scythe Kamakaze 120mm on HS, trying various case fans - SilenX/Scythe/Thermaltake). I had to drop my OC to 3.2GHz as I was getting some instability (and some video corruption during POST).

System appears more stable now with the latest modifications, and I will try and put it back to 3.4GHz tomorrow. I did try vMCH at 1.65, but with no noticeable difference in stability.

Current voltages are:
vCore: 1.3750v
vMCH: 1.55v
vFSB: 1.40v
vICH: 1.20v
vDIMM: 2.2v

Temps (if I can rely on the readings):
tCase (cpu): 27C idle / 49C load [SpeedFan readings without offsets]
tJunction (core): 30C idle / 53 load [TAT readings]

Ambient is 22C atm. As summer is coming, I can expect ambient to rise by as much as 10C (then the fun will start).

I realise that the temp difference between tCase and tJunction is not within specifications (should be ~15C difference so I've been told), but as I have no single temp reading that I can definitely prove is accurate, I am unable to establish the offsets I need to apply. BIOS temp is the same as tCase at idle.

Load program was TAT.

If anyone has any comments or recommendations on voltages or whatever, please let me know.

sesdave
05-17-2007, 03:52 PM
Link does not work for me.

repost - http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/Core2Duo-Overclocking-Guide-v1-ftopict197995.html

sesdave
05-17-2007, 04:17 PM
That is an ingenious solution :clap:

I ended up reseating the original HS + heatpipe and putting a small fan on the top of the NB. Seems ok, but would really like to get that HR-05 on. The annoying thing is that the installation instructions show an illustration of a retaining clip that would work (2 hooks on each end oriented perpendicular to each other) but this is not the retaining clip that was supplied.

If anyone has any comments or recommendations on voltages or whatever, please let me know.
You probably want more vcore to get higher than your current settung. About 1.45 -1.5 for 390-400 FSB. You only need to try increase MCH if you cant post or get stable. I would recheck you heatsink mounting - Ifrom what I have read you should get much lower load temps than that with the ultra extreme - I was going to get one but I wont bother if you have it mounted okay! and thats the best it can do!!!!.

revenant
05-17-2007, 04:52 PM
anyone running a Q6600 on their P5W DH Delux @ 400*7 ? 2800mhz and memory 1:1 for 800mhz?

I guess what I am asking is if the downward mutlies work well on the P5W DH with a Q6600?

edit: also, how is running the memory on the p5w dh in odd ratios (not 1:1).. when I had my p5w dh that didn't work too well for me.. I'm skimming now, but thought I would ask also..

graham_h
05-18-2007, 03:41 AM
*edited*

~aoe~
05-18-2007, 05:10 AM
You probably want more vcore to get higher than your current settung. About 1.45 -1.5 for 390-400 FSB. You only need to try increase MCH if you cant post or get stable. I would recheck you heatsink mounting - Ifrom what I have read you should get much lower load temps than that with the ultra extreme - I was going to get one but I wont bother if you have it mounted okay! and thats the best it can do!!!!.
I was also expecting better performance from this HS. You won't believe the number of times I've reseated it though. Even though I can remove the motherboard tray, with the HS installed it won't slide back in (hs too tall).

There seems to be no difference in cooling performace with the attached fan at high and low speeds which seems a little odd. The base is always cool to the touch also (even under load).

I guess I may have to consider lapping.

Luis_GT
05-18-2007, 08:17 AM
All I can say for the 2004 bios

DON'T USE IT !! :mad:

Its ruined any overclockabilty this board had

use to run my E6600 at 3.8Ghz.
Now it won't accept 3.4GHz
Resfuses to boot.

Off to E-bay heaven for this board
Bring on the P35 Deluxe

I don't know about that. When I flashed to 2004 I could finally get my CPU all the way to 4GHz... although after I turned my PC off, the Bios craped out on me.

GFORCE100
05-18-2007, 08:22 AM
I don't know about that. When I flashed to 2004 I could finally get my CPU all the way to 4GHz... although after I turned my PC off, the Bios craped out on me.

I wonder what CPU cooling this must have been? The 2004 BIOS allows a higher FSB on the QX6700 from what I could tell. I think I could get it up to 371MHz before crapping out. Insane heat at 4GHz, enough fry some bacon and eggs on without being late for work :)

How did you volt mod your 7950GX2 and how are you cooling it?

sesdave
05-18-2007, 09:57 AM
All I can say for the 2004 bios

DON'T USE IT !! :mad:

Its ruined any overclockabilty this board had

use to run my E6600 at 3.8Ghz.
Now it won't accept 3.4GHz
Resfuses to boot.

Off to E-bay heaven for this board
Bring on the P35 Deluxe

A new BIOS isnt going to pysically change anything that you have on the board - rather than ebay why not reflash to your previous BIOS? I presume it still posts BIOS.

sesdave
05-18-2007, 10:05 AM
I was also expecting better performance from this HS. You won't believe the number of times I've reseated it though. Even though I can remove the motherboard tray, with the HS installed it won't slide back in (hs too tall).

There seems to be no difference in cooling performace with the attached fan at high and low speeds which seems a little odd. The base is always cool to the touch also (even under load).

I guess I may have to consider lapping.

Thanks - sounds like I shouldnt buy one of them. Before you lap check whether the CPU IHS surface is already even or not. A drop of water on CPU and then put a plate of glass on it. Check even spead or not. I lapped and it made not a jot of difference on the e6600 as it must have already been flat - looks nice though! if you want to try there is a guide on this site http://www.thetechrepository.com/
and a lot of other useful stuff such as MBM5 v 2

~aoe~
05-18-2007, 10:19 AM
Thanks - sounds like I shouldnt buy one of them. Before you lap check whether the CPU IHS surface is already even or not. A drop of water on CPU and then put a plate of glass on it. Check even spead or not. I lapped and it made not a jot of difference on the e6600 as it must have already been flat - looks nice though! if you want to try there is a guide on this site http://www.thetechrepository.com/
and a lot of other useful stuff such as MBM5 v 2
Nice link - I'll follow that if I plan on lapping the CPU. I was thinking more about the HS, but I will check to see if the IHS is flat on the CPU and consider lapping that also if it isn't.

I won't be doing this until week after next as I will be away from home next week, but I will post my results and let you know once it's done.

Thx for the replies.

brock01
05-19-2007, 08:19 AM
P5W DH Deluxe Memory QVL
91.52 (KBytes)
2007/05/17 update
http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?modelname=P5W%20DH%20Deluxe&SLanguage=en-us

Gig4moller
05-19-2007, 10:18 AM
Hi guys.

So I still have this problem that my mobo won't boot with a 8x multiplier. It can do 9x400 fine, but 8x400 or even 8x266 won't work. Mem timings are SPD Enabled etc too, I have tried anything but no fix.

As I'm still using 1707 bios, do you think flashing to 2004 might fix?

brock01
05-19-2007, 10:37 AM
i dont think it will Gig4moller
well it didnt for me either

Gascogne
05-19-2007, 03:57 PM
I haven't checked this thread for some time now but I am wondering have Asus fixed the shutdown problem with the motherboard yet?

One shuts down in windows but the motherboard just reboots instead of shutting down.

sbinh
05-19-2007, 04:10 PM
I haven't checked this thread for some time now but I am wondering have Asus fixed the shutdown problem with the motherboard yet?

One shuts down in windows but the motherboard just reboots instead of shutting down.

I don't have such problem ....

lawrywild
05-19-2007, 04:11 PM
No such problem here..

whoodiestyle
05-19-2007, 04:14 PM
whats up with my board or is my cpu i cant get orthios stable past 3.33ghz e6700 and get get my fsb past 370 or is it both the problem?

Gascogne
05-19-2007, 05:19 PM
No such problem here..

Which bios are you running?

It was ages ago I mentioned the problem here in this thread.

holwill
05-20-2007, 12:27 AM
Hi all, my 1st post in this thread since following its conception. I have a early revision board and use corsair xms2 6404v1.2 D9s with a l624a and have always been able to post with manual memory settings upto 390fsb although unstable with orthos and only stable at 3.33ghz. Temps after the system had been on for a few hours browsing etc where between 36-41c, room temps about 20c and under load would never go above 52c not that impressive considering my w/c setup(as per sig).However today I managed to get hold of a l644g380 was wary of these chips as I had heard that they not the best of batches, but it appears I have got a better than average one , I can now boot into window 400fsb using 1.4875vcore and it is stable running games, encoding etc, however it craps out in orthos after 5hrs blend priority 9,sometimes with an error and sometimes just plain reboots? Temperatures now are incredibly low compared to my original chip, idling low 20s and under load 40c room temps where 22c so this is a definite improvement in 1 area and this is unlapped, unlike my last chip which was lapped! My question is how far would you raise the the other voltages safely? I have removed the heatsinks applied AS5 and have fitted 40mm akasa fans to the NB and SB, chipset temps never go other 39c. Ram has active cooling aswell.

lawrywild
05-20-2007, 02:38 AM
Which bios are you running?

It was ages ago I mentioned the problem here in this thread.

2004 (in sig..)

sesdave
05-20-2007, 12:33 PM
Hi all, my 1st post in this thread since following its conception. I have a early revision board and use corsair xms2 6404v1.2 D9s with a l624a and have always been able to post with manual memory settings upto 390fsb although unstable with orthos and only stable at 3.33ghz. Temps after the system had been on for a few hours browsing etc where between 36-41c, room temps about 20c and under load would never go above 52c not that impressive considering my w/c setup(as per sig).However today I managed to get hold of a l644g380 was wary of these chips as I had heard that they not the best of batches, but it appears I have got a better than average one , I can now boot into window 400fsb using 1.4875vcore and it is stable running games, encoding etc, however it craps out in orthos after 5hrs blend priority 9,sometimes with an error and sometimes just plain reboots? .

It does 4 hours plus Orthos so unless you are seeking to post benchmarks on sites demanding 24 hours orthis its pretty stable and probably good enough for any game you can throw at it - I would be happy with that. If not up vcore to 1.5 and run again!. Itry bumping MCH to 1.65 first if not already done.

Gascogne
05-20-2007, 06:41 PM
2004 (in sig..)

Heh silly me... :cat:

But the latest bios didn't do any difference, the motherboard till reboots when it shoud shutdown. :shakes:

WeldZilla
05-20-2007, 07:37 PM
No GascogneThe board has not done that since near the beginning. Mine never did it! I have had this board since June 06 and I believe it to be the best so far for ease of use and great speed at any given clock when compared to other boards at the same clock. I now look forward to the X38 board coming down the pipe. I also currently use a P5NE-SLI that is a Great OC'r. But I will always remember the P5W DH as a truly great board!!

WZ

scaramonga
05-21-2007, 03:28 AM
But I will always remember the P5W DH as a truly great board!!

When is the funeral? :rolleyes: :ROTF:

sesdave
05-21-2007, 12:03 PM
Heh silly me... :cat:

But the latest bios didn't do any difference, the motherboard till reboots when it shoud shutdown. :shakes:

Are you using usb ports 3 or 4? - they can cause machine to start up as they are for the remote.

Gascogne
05-21-2007, 01:37 PM
Are you using usb ports 3 or 4? - they can cause machine to start up as they are for the remote.

I have tried to have nothing in usb port 3 and 4 but it didn't do any difference, can try once again with the latest bios.

sesdave
05-21-2007, 01:47 PM
I have tried to have nothing in usb port 3 and 4 but it didn't do any difference, can try once again with the latest bios.


Its probably a windows problem rather than the board - here is a link for all things windows reboot on shutdown problems. http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/shtdwnxp.php let us know if it is one of them! If that dont work it may be worth checking your PSU - I had an old machine that kept rebooting and it turned out to be a dying PSU problem.

Cornel
05-21-2007, 03:42 PM
Hello!

Anyone here who has 2 gfx adapters in this motherboard?
I've tryed with 2 Nvidia card, my main gfx card is xfx 8800gtx card and the secondary is nvidia 6200 card. I've even tried a pci card.

I dont want SLI, i just want 3 DVI outputs (2 monitors and one pj)

lawrywild
05-22-2007, 12:16 AM
and it doesn't work? Have you configured the nvidia drivers correctly?

Cornel
05-22-2007, 10:17 AM
No... or... it dont show up in Windows. I've tryed to add the gfx adapter manually, but that didnt work.

mashakos
05-22-2007, 02:01 PM
i'm sure this has been asked, but I just can't figure it out!

I have an E6600 with Kingston HyperX PC2 9600 and an ENERMAX 500W. I have DD water cooling on the cpu, and just bought two thermalright hr-05 and one thermalright hr-09 mosfet cooler. Before I got the thermalright pieces, I was running a p5w dh rev. 1.02G BIOS 2004 at max 340fsb stable either 1:1 or 2:3. This is at very high voltages: 1.6v cpu, 2.3v ram, maxed out the rest.
(I don't know much about MEMtest or other windows ocing software.)

Well, yesterday out of laziness I tried to remove the stock cooling's push pins without removing the board - and ended up breaking one of the MOSFETS! :shocked:

I went to the market today and interestingly I found a P5W DH with a "1333 FSB effortless!" sticker on the box. I looked inside and found that it's 1.40G so I decided to try my luck with it.

Now, my question to all you 500+ fsb overclockers: What dividers and voltages can I use to go that far?!! Can it be done from the BIOS? :shrug:

please help! This thread is overwhelming - if someone can point me to a relevant post here I'd appreciate it.

sesdave
05-22-2007, 02:20 PM
i'm sure this has been asked, but I just can't figure it out!

Now, my question to all you 500+ fsb overclockers: What dividers and voltages can I use to go that far?!! Can it be done from the BIOS? :shrug:

please help! This thread is overwhelming - if someone can point me to a relevant post here I'd appreciate it.

Good joke - I presume that was a mistype and you meant 400 FSB because I think you will find hardly anyone (if anyone at all) has hit 500 on this board.
To get you started on the way to overclocking nirvana use this link to an overclocking guide and take it from there. http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/Core2Duo-Overclocking-Guide-v1-ftopict197995.html

zbogorgon
05-22-2007, 03:35 PM
why is not posible to change multi beyond 11 with X6800 on this pofuk board ?

i tried bios 2004, 1901, others wont flash ?

WeldZilla
05-22-2007, 04:20 PM
Well yes scaramonga I should clarify that. This has been a truly great board for some of us who knew how to get at it's goodness. Funny I have set up a dozen of these boards for people 4 of them bought new and 8 of them that were duds that the owner was just thrilled to unload!!! and every last one of them is running at 400+ daily and all will run over at 425 fsb just fine. I set them up based on their cooling ability so 1 of them besides mine runs at 425 daily, 4 run at 416, 3 at 412 qnd 4 at 400. not a one of them has needed anything. They just run and run. Yup you guys keep selling them cheap and I'll just keep buying them. I actually got one for $85 and a e6600 bad batch piece of crap for $160 and it is the one that also runs 425 daily............

All of them are running on the 2004 bios and all of them are running G.Skill 6400HZ ...... Oh scaramonga check out the scores in my sig I hardly find them laughable............

WZ

BulldogPO
05-22-2007, 09:04 PM
Dudes, what is that problem I´m having.
Everytime I boot my computer Vista reports that there is problem in networkconnection(wired) and I have to repair it after every boot.

mashakos
05-22-2007, 10:24 PM
... every last one of them is running at 400+ daily ...at what multiplier and voltages?



Good joke - I presume that was a mistype and you meant 400 FSB because I think you will find hardly anyone (if anyone at all) has hit 500 on this board.
To get you started on the way to overclocking nirvana use this link to an overclocking guide and take it from there. what about the ppl with p5w in the 600 club???

sesdave
05-23-2007, 02:27 AM
at what multiplier and voltages?



what about the ppl with p5w in the 600 club???

Correct me if I am wrong but I understand that club to be for people running memory @ 1200 with 2:3 or 4:5 dividers - not for CPU running with FSB=600

mashakos
05-23-2007, 04:58 AM
Correct me if I am wrong but I understand that club to be for people running memory @ 1200 with 2:3 or 4:5 dividers - not for CPU running with FSB=600yeah you're right, the two over there have fsb's in the 300 range...

Cornel
05-23-2007, 11:01 AM
i saw someplace in this post a list of what shold be enabled and what shold be disabled i bios to get the best overclock.
Anyone know where that list is?

sesdave
05-23-2007, 11:58 AM
i saw someplace in this post a list of what shold be enabled and what shold be disabled i bios to get the best overclock.
Anyone know where that list is?

I posted a link on this page to an OC guide which refers to most BIOS settings and starter voltages. Here it is again http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/Core2Duo-Overclocking-Guide-v1-ftopict197995.html

lawrywild
05-24-2007, 01:32 PM
No... or... it dont show up in Windows. I've tryed to add the gfx adapter manually, but that didnt work.

Does the card work in the second slot on its own? Maybe the pci-e slot is dodgy

Ron
05-24-2007, 02:47 PM
This has bee a great thread. I read all of it before I set up my P5W-DH and things have gone smoothly. I have a question regarding memory timings. I have an E6400 on this board running at a 430FSB with the 8x multiplier=3.44GHz Orthos stable for 14hrs, 2x1GB G.Skill 6400HZ's @ 1:1=860MHz @4-4-4-5, Memtest stable for 20hrs. What are the benefits from running 4-4-4-5 vs the standard SPD timings of 4-4-4-12? Do I stand a higher chance of getting a corrupted operating system with the tighter timings? dVIMM is set at 2.1v.

lawrywild
05-24-2007, 03:34 PM
I guess you have a higher chance yeh, but aslong as they remain memtest stable then you should be fine. 4-4-4-5 is only slightly faster than 4-4-4-12 though.

graham_h
05-24-2007, 03:53 PM
how to flash back the bios ? from 2004 to 1707
can you use afudos off a thumb drive ?

GueD'S
05-24-2007, 04:03 PM
Quick question, i search but didnt found it now, wich slots is the better choice to put ram? Orange or black? Thanks.

Liquid3D
05-24-2007, 05:48 PM
For the BIOS flash what I find easiest is to download the utility Asus Update v7.09.02 (http://dlsvr03.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/flash/AsusUpdt_70902.zip) which works through Windows. Then download the zipped bios file here 1701 (http://dlsvr03.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/P5WDH1707.zip) and open that file. Open Asus Update and choose "Update BIOS from File" in the drop-down menu as seen below. You can also choose Chek BIOS Version from that ame drop-down menu. Before you flash anything make sure our CPU isn't overclocked and your system settings are stable (I'm sure you know this).

For the memory question orange DIMMs are primary dual channel.

sesdave
05-25-2007, 12:09 AM
how to flash back the bios ? from 2004 to 1707
can you use afudos off a thumb drive ?

Using Asus update to flash back to an older BIOS has never worked for me as it always says current BIOS is a later version and wont flash. Use this link
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2143429&postcount=4569
to my previous post for instructions on flashing to an older BIOS and how to setup a USB flash drive as bootable.

lawrywild
05-25-2007, 12:12 AM
how to flash back the bios ? from 2004 to 1707
can you use afudos off a thumb drive ?

Yes, you can, you need to make it bootable first, (search that on google), then put ms-dos files onto it and afudos 2.17 with the bios file. Then boot it and type

afudos /iBIOS.rom /pbnc /n

graham_h
05-25-2007, 03:39 AM
Flashing back to an older BIOS I can help with as I have just tried 2004 and gone back to 1707. Download AFUDOS 2.11. Get the BIOS version you want and rename it to P5WDH.ROM. Create Boot Floppy or USB Flash boot - create Boot flash with either HP one posted or this http://www.weethet.nl/english/hardwa...musbstick.php#. Copy AFUSOS and BIOS to floppy or USB Flash. If you are using Flash USB configure BIOS to change the boot sequence so that the USB flash drive is boot before a hard drive, and also disable "Legacy Diskette A" on the BIOS Main pageBoot . Insert drive/floppy - Boot to DOS and run afudos /ip5wdh.rom
I have just remembered that I forgot to to disable all CPU configuration settings especially virtulisation when I flashed the BIOS to 2004 which might explain my spurios BSOD with that version and why I am getting them when I flashed back. I might give it another try as others are giving it good posts - might be worh checking you CPU settings. You wheted my appetite as I am getting RAM with more potential so I have been looking into the dividers - more info on 4:5 2:3 dividers from EVA2000 http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...7&postcount=33 points to memory with trd=6 being the culprit. He also refers t MB/NB temps - I stuck a 40mm fan on my NB which I found helped a lot. Here some more which all poiunts to TRD=6 as the problem .http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/.../t-115729.html

That was a huge help sesdave and George of course
trd=6 being the culprit was the problem
Back to where I was :D

Liquid3D
05-25-2007, 06:45 AM
I apologize I forgot I had the same problem trying to flash back with Asus Update, this program was obviously named literally

:(

graham_h
05-25-2007, 07:55 AM
no need now anyways
2004 is working fine.
Damn picky board

P5K will sort that out :)

mashakos
05-25-2007, 01:33 PM
so, my cpu and motherboard are dead.... :(

I was trying to install a thermalright MOSFET cooler without taking everything out, I tried to cut the stock cooler's push pins with a scissor. I ended up breaking one of the mosfets. I didn't notice all this till AFTER I turned the PC on and kept turning it on several times.

Two days ago I bought another P5w DH (rev 1.04G) and found out that the CPU was fried. I came to this conclusion after several hours of troubleshooting.

Anyway, to make a long story short... I now have a choice of either an E6600 or an E6700.

I have three questions:

What steppings / batch numbers should I be looking out for?

Is the E6700 worth the extra price? On my old board with stock NB cooling / CPU water cooling, the most stable I got was 340 FSB and 1066 memory on 3:4 divider. This was on high voltage settings. How much of an overclock can I expect from an E6700 with this board?

I have 2 gigs of HyperX PC2 9600 memory. I know it can go up to 1Ghz stable but is there any posibility of reaching it's rated speed of 1.2Ghz on a P5W dh?

I'm sitting on my litle bro's laptop writing this, I need some cheering up :(

EDIT:
my specs:
*NO CPU*
2gb of Kingston HyperX PC2 9600 1.2Ghz DDR2
P5W DH 1.04G
ASUS 8800GTX
Enermax Liberty 500W
DangerDen Black Ice GTX, Laing DDC pump, 1/2" tubing, Core 2 Duo TDX copper CPU block

lawrywild
05-25-2007, 01:54 PM
Unlikely you'll hit 1200 ram on 975x. My P5WDH can't even do 1000 stable, only for some superpi :(

mashakos
05-25-2007, 02:06 PM
Unlikely you'll hit 1200 ram on 975x. My P5WDH can't even do 1000 stable, only for some superpi :(hmmm, crap.

So I guess I have to concentrate on ocing the CPU. Where can I find out solid info on core 2 duo batch model performance? I'm having a tough time finding this info from google.

I found a few threads on the P5W DH rev. 1.04G, but I need to know how well it overclocks. Has anyone here tested one?

Does the E6700 run cooler than an E6600 at 3Ghz+ ?

Oh yeah, I got 2 thermalright hr-05's and one hr-09 moset cooler (the one that got me into this mess!). How well do after maret coolers do with this board. I had high IHCR7 idle temps using the stck cooler even after cleaning and using Arctic Silver 5. The readings on SpeedFan were 32C to 37C idle after the pc was on for some time (41C on load). That's why I got the thermalright coolers, I was suspecting that this was the cause for my low overclock.

sesdave
05-25-2007, 02:41 PM
hmmm, crap.

So I guess I have to concentrate on ocing the CPU. Where can I find out solid info on core 2 duo batch model performance? I'm having a tough time finding this info from google.

I found a few threads on the P5W DH rev. 1.04G, but I need to know how well it overclocks. Has anyone here tested one?

Does the E6700 run cooler than an E6600 at 3Ghz+ ?

Oh yeah, I got 2 thermalright hr-05's and one hr-09 moset cooler (the one that got me into this mess!). How well do after maret coolers do with this board. I had high IHCR7 idle temps using the stck cooler even after cleaning and using Arctic Silver 5. The readings on SpeedFan were 32C to 37C idle after the pc was on for some time (41C on load). That's why I got the thermalright coolers, I was suspecting that this was the cause for my low overclock.

Have you tried reading or searching on this thread - its all about overclocking conroes on the P5W. If you seek ye shall find!

mashakos
05-25-2007, 02:46 PM
Have you tried reading or searching on this thread - its all about overclocking the P5W and problems with it . If you seek ye shall find!I've been searching for over an hour man, this is a BIG thread!

If you remember any particular post with the info I am looking for, I'd apreciate it if you gave me a link or a few words from the therad I can use in the search form.

sesdave
05-25-2007, 03:04 PM
I've been searching for over an hour man, this is a BIG thread!

If you remember any particular post with the info I am looking for, I'd apreciate it if you gave me a link or a few words from the therad I can use in the search form.

Fair point - I am having a bad day! Note that Lawrywild has 4GB of ram which will stress the memory controller (NB) more so the fact he gets near 1000 is pretty good. Plenty are running memory higher than that with 2 Gb but that may not be to their advantage. I previously posted this article http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/print/core2duo-memory-guide.html which indicates that if you are not setting FSB above 400 then you are best to run 1:1 with tightest timings. The only real difference between e6600 and e5700 is the mutiplier. Bang for buck its the e6600 as they clock pretty good - later ones seem to run a bit cooler nbut its still luck of the draw.Most get 3.4 -3.6 If you get lucky and have good cooling they go higher. Batch 28-32 seem pretty good - there a few post that the latest 44g are not very good for overclocking. Whats your setup - could be your case that is causing the NB temperatures to creep although I run about 33-34 with MCH=1.65v and thats with a 40mm fan on the NB after applying AS5.

~aoe~
05-25-2007, 03:10 PM
Oh yeah, I got 2 thermalright hr-05's and one hr-09 moset cooler (the one that got me into this mess!). How well do after maret coolers do with this board. I had high IHCR7 idle temps using the stck cooler even after cleaning and using Arctic Silver 5. The readings on SpeedFan were 32C to 37C idle after the pc was on for some time (41C on load). That's why I got the thermalright coolers, I was suspecting that this was the cause for my low overclock.
The HR-05 will fit fine on the SB, but will obstruct 1 of the sata ports if you don't have the SLi version of the HR-05.

I couldn't get the HR-05 to fit on the NB - the retaining mechanism isn't suitable. Also note that the HR-09 will not cover all the mosfets (although I don't see this as a big problem).

I decided to drop a 40mm fan on top of the NB (after cleaning and reseating). Seems to work ok.

Edit: corrected 'usb port' for 'sata port'

lawrywild
05-25-2007, 03:17 PM
You really don't need much cooling for the SB, if any at all. I have a thermaltake extreme spirit II running fanless and it's barely warm to touch. I'm sure it's fine to run the ICH7R with no heatsink at all.

mashakos
05-25-2007, 04:43 PM
thanks for all the replies, I appreciate it.

Fair point - I am having a bad day! feeling is mutual hehe. More like bad week!

Thanks for the tip on memory timings! Although I tried 340 1:1 at 3-3-3-9 and 340fsb 3:4 at 5-5-5-15 and the 3:4 setting had overall faster load times from start up to running some apps.
Something caught my eye in your article:
The ASUS P5W DH Deluxe mainboard has certain peculiarities as concerns support for memory at overclocking. That is, many memory frequency divisors do not work when the FSB is overclocked. Until recently we could use that mainboard at a 400MHz FSB only to test memory at either 600MHz or 800MHz (FSB:DRAM divisors of 4:3 and 1:1, respectively).
I was having problems getting the right ratio before my cpu burnt. I could only run the pc successfully at 1:1 or 3:4. Are there specific ratios that are best for the p5w dh?

would an e6700 go up to 3.8-3.9 with water cooling? If it can without hassles on this board I'll go for it - already wasted a lot of money anyway.

Where's the batch number? is it the 2 digits after the "L6"?



The HR-05 will fit fine on the SB, but will obstruct 1 of the usb ports if you don't have the SLi version of the HR-05.you mean sata port? yes, it needs to be slightly rotated to allow for accessing that port.


I couldn't get the HR-05 to fit on the NB - the retaining mechanism isn't suitable. Also note that the HR-09 will not cover all the mosfets (although I don't see this as a big problem).I set it up with the retainer from the stock cooler and it's seated ok, although moving the case around would not be a good idea... it can easily be "pushed out" with a slight nudge.

You really don't need much cooling for the SB, if any at all. I have a thermaltake extreme spirit II running fanless and it's barely warm to touch. I'm sure it's fine to run the ICH7R with no heatsink at all.
not for me, I'll explain why:

Whats your setup - could be your case that is causing the NB temperatures to creep although I run about 33-34 with MCH=1.65v and thats with a 40mm fan on the NB after applying AS5.

It's two things:
the case is a small desktop HTPC Silverstone.
It has an 8800GTX in it.
I did add a 120mm connected to the top of the case, but it blows only on the NB and CPU water block(which is water cooling anyway). So the back of the card is getting some air but the part where the heatsink and fan are has little airflow. I have an old pic before I put the 8800gtx in. The 8800gtx goes the whole length of the case, from the pci slots to the radiator:
http://www.intpcentral.com/uploads/DD_water_side.jpg

So whenever the 8800gtx starts to heat up, it radiates it all on the SB. 54C and 65C are too much for a little SB I guess :p

sesdave
05-25-2007, 05:07 PM
thanks for all the replies, I appreciate it.

feeling is mutual hehe. More like bad week!

Thanks for the tip on memory timings! Although I tried 340 1:1 at 3-3-3-9 and 340fsb 3:4 at 5-5-5-15 and the 3:4 setting had overall faster load times from start up to running some apps.
Something caught my eye in your article:

I was having problems getting the right ratio before my cpu burnt. I could only run the pc successfully at 1:1 or 3:4. Are there specific ratios that are best for the p5w dh?

:p

Note the article conclusion was optimum CPU/memory performance 1:1 @400 FSB with tightest timings unless the FSB was clocked higher. It implies no gain of running @400 FSB with a 4:5 lots of people are running okay with 4:5 dividers above 400 but the board/BIOS doesnt work well with all memory. Re temperature from GTX -have a look at the Akasa exaust blower - if you mount it a coupl.e of slots below your card you should get a temperature drop. Also worth replacing the paste on teh card with AS5.Are you running the fan ay 100% - if not use Riva to do so - that will drop the temps quite a bit. E6600 vs E6700 is an interesting google! Personally I would sticj with an E6600 - there is no guarantee that an E6700 will overclock higher.

sbinh
05-25-2007, 05:13 PM
This board runs fine at FSB=400 (with FSB:RAM = 1:1) ....
To run RAM at 500, FSB cannot be reached 400MHz ....

I tried to run FSB:RAM = 4:5 (400:500).... It booted to windows ... ran SuperPI tests .... but failed orthor tests that test RAM ...(BLEND, LARG FFT or custom)... Screw it ... P5B-Dlx is much better than this board.

mashakos
05-25-2007, 05:19 PM
Note the article conclusion was optimum memory performance 1:1 @400 FSB unless the FSB was clocked higher. It implies no gain of running @400 FSB with a 4:5 lots of people are running okay with 4:5 dividers above 400 but the board/BIOS doesnt work well with all memory. Re temperature from GTX -have a look at the Akasa exaust blower - if you mount it a coupl.e of slots below your card you should get a temperature drop. Also worth replacing the paste on teh card with AS5.Are you running the fan ay 100% - if not use Riva to do so - that will drop the temps quite a bit.I have the card at 100% with riva yes. It still doesn't help with the SB, I think the card's temps are affecting it because there's no airflow. I was thinking of water cooling the card, I'll get the blower in the meantime.

I'll ceck out the CPUs tomorrow, see what batches they have *fingers crossed*

sesdave
05-25-2007, 05:28 PM
I have the card at 100% with riva yes. It still doesn't help with the SB, I think the card's temps are affecting it because there's no airflow. I was thinking of water cooling the card, I'll get the blower in the meantime.

I'll ceck out the CPUs tomorrow, see what batches they have *fingers crossed*

Stick a 40mm fan on the SB - its effective and cheap. I take it you have peeled of the shiny covers from the NB/SB and as you have w/c stuck the little fan supplied with the P5W on the RAM heatsink

mashakos
05-25-2007, 05:32 PM
Stick a 40mm fan on the SB - its effective and cheap. I take it you have peeled of the shiny covers from the NB/SB and as you have w/c stuck the little fan supplied with the P5W on the RAM heatsinkI already bought and fitted the HR-05 :)
Just waiting to get the CPU to test everything. If temps are still high I can try an 80mm on the hr-05

MrMonstah
05-25-2007, 11:56 PM
Hey guys,

I recently bought a new pc, and put it together using this Mobo.

I have 2 Raptor HDD with a Raid 0 Setup (using a Raid adapter), My Dvd-Rom is connected to the IHC7 IDE port, and i have a separate IDE HDD connected to the JMicron IDE port.

My issue is that i cant seem to get IDE HDD to work (The one connected to the JMicron IDE). In bootup, the Jmicron device detects it, in Device manager it is detected as a SCSI HDD, but i cant access it via My Computer.

Is anyone else having this issue?

sesdave
05-26-2007, 12:46 AM
Hey guys,

I recently bought a new pc, and put it together using this Mobo.

I have 2 Raptor HDD with a Raid 0 Setup (using a Raid adapter), My Dvd-Rom is connected to the IHC7 IDE port, and i have a separate IDE HDD connected to the JMicron IDE port.

My issue is that i cant seem to get IDE HDD to work (The one connected to the JMicron IDE). In bootup, the Jmicron device detects it, in Device manager it is detected as a SCSI HDD, but i cant access it via My Computer.

Is anyone else having this issue?

I had the same issue and swapped the DVD and IDE over which worked for me. In the end I changed everything to SATA drives and SATA DVD and ran of the ICH7. The Jmicron controller seems to get a lot of issues.

lawrywild
05-26-2007, 02:28 AM
Hey guys,

I recently bought a new pc, and put it together using this Mobo.

I have 2 Raptor HDD with a Raid 0 Setup (using a Raid adapter), My Dvd-Rom is connected to the IHC7 IDE port, and i have a separate IDE HDD connected to the JMicron IDE port.

My issue is that i cant seem to get IDE HDD to work (The one connected to the JMicron IDE). In bootup, the Jmicron device detects it, in Device manager it is detected as a SCSI HDD, but i cant access it via My Computer.

Is anyone else having this issue?

Have you activated the drive in Computer Management in Windows?

zsamz_
05-26-2007, 03:16 AM
i'll start by sayin hi all great forum
ive read most of the posts in this thread
so i gather the only way to go past the 380fsb barrrier is to set memory to spd
i went from a p5b to the p5w all i can say is i'm dissapointed with overclocking results


doig some reading and i thing the folks at asus need to fix the bois timings for the memory
wierd my memory went past 1000mhz on old board @ 5-5-5-15 @2.1i cant get to 970 on the p5w @2.2v "ocz plat pc6400 4-4-4-15"

anyone here get past these problems
runnin an e6400 do other cpus like this board better ? lol or maybe is it my memory?

sesdave
05-26-2007, 03:43 AM
i'll start by sayin hi all great forum
ive read most of the posts in this thread
so i gather the only way to go past the 380fsb barrrier is to set memory to spd
i went from a p5b to the p5w all i can say is i'm dissapointed with overclocking results


doig some reading and i thing the folks at asus need to fix the bois timings for the memory
wierd my memory went past 1000mhz on old board @ 5-5-5-15 @2.1i cant get to 970 on the p5w @2.2v "ocz plat pc6400 4-4-4-15"

anyone here get past these problems
runnin an e6400 do other cpus like this board better ? lol or maybe is it my memory?

Not quite true - Its all down to what memory you have and whether your CPU will o/c past 380. I run 400 FSB 1:1 with corsair XMS on manual settings quite happily as do many other people . Why did you change boards as the P5B can generally run higher FSB?

lawrywild
05-26-2007, 05:43 AM
i'll start by sayin hi all great forum
ive read most of the posts in this thread
so i gather the only way to go past the 380fsb barrrier is to set memory to spd
i went from a p5b to the p5w all i can say is i'm dissapointed with overclocking results


doig some reading and i thing the folks at asus need to fix the bois timings for the memory
wierd my memory went past 1000mhz on old board @ 5-5-5-15 @2.1i cant get to 970 on the p5w @2.2v "ocz plat pc6400 4-4-4-15"

anyone here get past these problems
runnin an e6400 do other cpus like this board better ? lol or maybe is it my memory?

It's the chipset, 975x basically sucks for ram clocking whereas 965 is good. Thank god that it's a faster chipset anyway..

MrMonstah
05-26-2007, 06:11 AM
Have you activated the drive in Computer Management in Windows?

If i do it that way, does the HDD get formated? because i backed up all my old data (from old pc) on this HDD

eblaster101
05-26-2007, 12:02 PM
can someone please tell me which controls the power to USB, when i use loads of usb ports my computer reboots. is it ICH or MCH i think i need to increase one but dont know which.

zsamz_
05-26-2007, 12:35 PM
Not quite true - Its all down to what memory you have and whether your CPU will o/c past 380. I run 400 FSB 1:1 with corsair XMS on manual settings quite happily as do many other people . Why did you change boards as the P5B can generally run higher FSB?


the geniuses @ asus put the pci slot close too the pci-e slot
once i put my card in i lose a pci slot i need 3 pci slots
i was debating the comando and the p5w the remote n wifi sold me lol

i know the cpu can do over 400fsb and the memory can do over 1000mhz

i got 2 more days to return the board i wished the retailer had a p35 board
the worst part is on the p5k you lose a pci slot after installing the video card lol

its weird the pc is plenty fast i cust cant resist overclocking it its my sickness

if i keep the board any suggestions for a cpu that likes this board better?

Liquid3D
05-26-2007, 03:30 PM
i'll start by sayin hi all great forum
ive read most of the posts in this thread
so i gather the only way to go past the 380fsb barrrier is to set memory to spd
i went from a p5b to the p5w all i can say is i'm dissapointed with overclocking results


doig some reading and i thing the folks at asus need to fix the bois timings for the memory
wierd my memory went past 1000mhz on old board @ 5-5-5-15 @2.1i cant get to 970 on the p5w @2.2v "ocz plat pc6400 4-4-4-15"

anyone here get past these problems
runnin an e6400 do other cpus like this board better ? lol or maybe is it my memory?

Well that sort of makes me wonder why I've had similair problems. I have a kit of Mushking 8500 that di 1200MHz on my Asus M2N32-SLI n that was with the bad 903 BIOS which eneded frying a stck! On the P5W DH I can't get Mushkin beyong 1080MHz? Of coure they replaced a stick and it's probably that stik holdin me back. I have to try the flash SPD program, but if the stick is dead I guess no go, but perhaps fklashing the new stick they sent maybe i has different SPD settings?


Anway I've got my E6400 to 425FSB on this board that was with a pre 1701 BIOS. Now with 1901 it seems ok and t's running some old Tacer 5300 beyond 800MHz, but have had some memory problems of course I need some dam high speed memory, something like 9600.

lawrywild
05-26-2007, 04:26 PM
It's not that stick holding you back, it's the 975x chipset holding you back.

experttech2007
05-26-2007, 05:14 PM
wierd my memory went past 1000mhz on old board @ 5-5-5-15 @2.1i cant get to 970 on the p5w @2.2v "ocz plat pc6400 4-4-4-15"

Try setting mem voltage to 1.9 - NOT 1.8 or 2.0 but 1.9

zsamz_
05-26-2007, 07:51 PM
Try setting mem voltage to 1.9 - NOT 1.8 or 2.0 but 1.9

tried no go

i got it running @ 900mhz@4-5-4-15 2,1v
my max on this board is 413fsb
on my p5b i did 425 with 1,4v

cholo777
05-27-2007, 03:58 AM
hi everyone
I have just recently bought a p5w dh deluxe as i have read many good things about this mobo,but i have a big problem,my fsb appears to be locked,cant shift it from 200,does not give me any options,
thought it was the bios 1506 so i updated it to 2004 but the problem is still there,i am a bit confused,i have e4300 which was fine on the p5n-e sli board i had other than a few limitations on ram.
would really appreciate any help or suggestion with this as i dont have any ideas to be honest,
wanted to tweak and play but dont think i will for a bit,
thanx in advance
regs
paul

sesdave
05-27-2007, 06:41 AM
hi everyone
I have just recently bought a p5w dh deluxe as i have read many good things about this mobo,but i have a big problem,my fsb appears to be locked,cant shift it from 200,does not give me any options,
thought it was the bios 1506 so i updated it to 2004 but the problem is still there,i am a bit confused,i have e4300 which was fine on the p5n-e sli board i had other than a few limitations on ram.
would really appreciate any help or suggestion with this as i dont have any ideas to be honest,
wanted to tweak and play but dont think i will for a bit,
thanx in advance
regs
paul

I have to ask this as you have said the BIOS dosnt give you any options - I take it that you have set A1 overclocking to manual to get the overclocking parameters for FSB and VCore etc.

cholo777
05-27-2007, 07:11 AM
I have to ask this as you have said the BIOS dosnt give you any options - I take it that you have set A1 overclocking to manual to get the overclocking parameters for FSB and VCore etc.


yes m8
i did that, i thought about that after i wrote the thread,i knew someone would ask,lol,bit of a mystery this,do you have any ideas,need to get this sorted
regs
paul

experttech2007
05-27-2007, 10:17 AM
tried no go

i got it running @ 900mhz@4-5-4-15 2,1v
my max on this board is 413fsb
on my p5b i did 425 with 1,4v

Do you have OCZ Plat Rev1 or Rev2? Post your model #

sesdave
05-27-2007, 11:07 AM
yes m8
i did that, i thought about that after i wrote the thread,i knew someone would ask,lol,bit of a mystery this,do you have any ideas,need to get this sorted
regs
paul

Haven't seen that before - the CPU o/c okay on your previous board. ? have you got anthor CPU you can try on the board or another board to check the CPU on? If not I would go back to build basics. What PSU do you have? - check 24pin and 4 pin 12v connectors. Take the board battery out - clear cmos . Take the CPU out -clean and reinstall with one stick of ram and the video card and try again. If it dont work I would RMA the board.

cholo777
05-27-2007, 12:27 PM
Haven't seen that before - the CPU o/c okay on your previous board. ? have you got anthor CPU you can try on the board or another board to check the CPU on? If not I would go back to build basics. What PSU do you have? - check 24pin and 4 pin 12v connectors. Take the board battery out - clear cmos . Take the CPU out -clean and reinstall with one stick of ram and the video card and try again. If it dont work I would RMA the board.

thanks for reply m8
it was human error-i got so used to using my other mobo which is slightly different/this one you have to write in values unlike the p5n which presented you with options/suffice to say problem is solved.thanx again for help,can i ask what thingsdo i have to disable in this bios to the get the very best
regs
paul

Ra7or
05-27-2007, 12:57 PM
I guys:up: I am from Portugal, it's my first post.

I have a Asus P5W DH Deluxe, Allendale 3.2Ghz @ Ultra 120 Extreme, Corsair Value Select PC2-5400 1Gb DC 667Mhz.

I have a problem, after a bought my Thermalright I tried to make some OC, but there are a few problems with it.

If I set in the BIOS 1.35V Vcore, its not what appears in the hardware monitor, it appears 1.28V is this normal?

One more thing, I just can't boot with 400Mhz of FSB and SPD Disable, can someone explain this?
Thanks, and sorry for my English.

zsamz_
05-27-2007, 01:05 PM
I guys:up: I am from Portugal, it's my first post.

I have a Asus P5W DH Deluxe, Allendale 3.2Ghz @ Ultra 120 Extreme, Corsair Value Select PC2-5400 1Gb DC 667Mhz.

I have a problem, after a bought my Thermalright I tried to make some OC, but there are a few problems with it.

If I set in the BIOS 1.35V Vcore, its not what appears in the hardware monitor, it appears 1.28V is this normal?

One more thing, I just can't boot with 400Mhz of FSB and SPD Disable, can someone explain this?
Thanks, and sorry for my English.

i set mine @ 1.375 i get 1.325
you can mod it but bye bye warranty

experttech2007:its rev2

zsamz_
05-27-2007, 01:09 PM
i was thinking of sending it back"2 days left" n getting the comando but i dont really need that high of an overclock since the 975 chipset is faster
i was thinkin of the p5k deluxe but all you get is a better overclock right?
it seems the p5k is slower that the 965chipset

any thoughts on this?

sesdave
05-27-2007, 02:10 PM
thanks for reply m8
it was human error-i got so used to using my other mobo which is slightly different/this one you have to write in values unlike the p5n which presented you with options/suffice to say problem is solved.thanx again for help,can i ask what thingsdo i have to disable in this bios to the get the very best
regs
paul

Good start with the P5W -lol. Heres a good o/c start guide which indicates all the BIOS settings ro disable http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/Core2Duo-Overclocking-Guide-v1-ftopict197995.html
- follow that and you wont go far wrong 0 the rest is down to luck of the draw on your CPU . Anything else you will probably find in this thread

ZSAMZ - you should check out the guide as it will answer most of your questions. The P5W has a .5v vdroop BIOS setting against actual reading reported in windows

Ra7or
05-27-2007, 02:18 PM
I think that news chip7 needs to have the compatibility with DDR3, and some more experience i think
Maybe its too soon to buy a new mobo like P5K and it doesn't support DDR3, only Asus P5K3 deluxe support it.

Its my opinion, if we want a new mobo, with support for the future we need to think about DDR3 and other technologies that could appear.
Bye;)

lawrywild
05-27-2007, 02:42 PM
Is anyone actually using the matrix RAID AS matrix RAID?

How I mean is well I'm using just RAID 0 atm but the whole point of Matrix technology is you can RAID 0 some of the drive and RAID 1 the rest, so if one drives fails, you only lose the RAID 0'd stuff and the RAID 1 stuff is still there on the living drive - but you get the benefits of the extra speed on the RAID 0 section and security on the RAID 1 section.

I hope to try this on my next Vista install..

fritzman
05-27-2007, 02:45 PM
Is anyone actually using the matrix RAID AS matrix RAID?

How I mean is well I'm using just RAID 0 atm but the whole point of Matrix technology is you can RAID 0 some of the drive and RAID 1 the rest, so if one drives fails, you only lose the RAID 0'd stuff and the RAID 1 stuff is still there on the living drive - but you get the benefits of the extra speed on the RAID 0 section and security on the RAID 1 section.

I hope to try this on my next Vista install..


Check this thread out... http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=467848

Only 23 pages, but well worth the read.

Ra7or
05-27-2007, 02:52 PM
Sorry asking this but after I read sesdave post, and checked the link to the guide, I realize this:
With this mobo we can't set manual timmings in the BIOS?? I have 400FSB and the mobo just don't boot with SPD disable in the BIOS...
:up:

lawrywild
05-27-2007, 03:01 PM
Check this thread out... http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=467848

Only 23 pages, but well worth the read.

Thanks a lot and yeh, at first I thought there would be some kind of performance loss with this technology on the RAID 0 side of things, but when you consider you're only using the first sections of the drive, the performance is crazy.

I can't wait to try it, and I can't believe I didn't read into this more before..

fritzman
05-27-2007, 03:08 PM
Thanks a lot and yeh, at first I thought there would be some kind of performance loss with this technology on the RAID 0 side of things, but when you consider you're only using the first sections of the drive, the performance is crazy.

I can't wait to try it, and I can't believe I didn't read into this more before..


Yeah mate... I am running 4 x 250Gb drives, and using only 10Gb per drive to make the 40Gb O/S partition... works a treat and the Raid5 is super-reliable... checks itself for errors if I ever stress it too much... normally finds none or maybe one, but having parity across the drives is very safe. (I still use a 500Gb external e-Sata for backups, but that is very quickly becoming too small lol)

Enjoy!

lawrywild
05-27-2007, 03:30 PM
Here's what I am thinking:

Would It be better to have 3 RAID 0's rather than 2 with one being partitioned in half?

EDIT: errr LOL that first bit is supposed to say 10GB per drive :p:

and btw the 600GB isn't an error too lol, that's how much they total when formatted :p:

Edit2: actually, 20Gb isn't enough for Vista, would have to be 30 or 40GB but that means lower performance :( lol.. :D

fritzman
05-27-2007, 03:52 PM
Here's what I am thinking:

Would It be better to have 3 RAID 0's rather than 2 with one being partitioned in half?

EDIT: errr LOL that first bit is supposed to say 10GB per drive :p:

and btw the 600GB isn't an error too lol, that's how much they total when formatted :p:

Edit2: actually, 20Gb isn't enough for Vista, would have to be 30 or 40GB but that means lower performance :( lol.. :D


Looks okay to me... I would be opting for separate Raid0 partitions for the O/S's, but running the rest as Raid5 (or Raid0 and use an external drive for backups if you have one), but yep... right idea.

lawrywild
05-27-2007, 03:58 PM
I thought RAID 5 needed 3 or more drives.. I only have 2.

fritzman
05-27-2007, 04:06 PM
I thought RAID 5 needed 3 or more drives.. I only have 2.

Sorry mate... you're absolutely right lol. I haven't used 2 x drives for a while now and completely overlooked that aspect. :clap:

lawrywild
05-27-2007, 04:36 PM
Sorry mate... you're absolutely right lol. I haven't used 2 x drives for a while now and completely overlooked that aspect. :clap:


lol :) no problem

Am thinking I might just scrap XP now, I only use it for CS:S and with Vista driver becoming much better doubt I need it anymore..

sesdave
05-27-2007, 05:02 PM
Sorry asking this but after I read sesdave post, and checked the link to the guide, I realize this:
With this mobo we can't set manual timmings in the BIOS?? I have 400FSB and the mobo just don't boot with SPD disable in the BIOS...
:up:
Not true - remember its only a guide not a bible! Only some have to use SPD enabled to boot above 370. There could be many other reasons why you cant run 400 with manual settings on memory. Do you know if you CPU can run 400 FSB - you arent guaranteed that it will. What settings are you using in the bios for your overclock.

sesdave
05-27-2007, 05:18 PM
Check this thread out... http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=467848

Only 23 pages, but well worth the read.

Nice post - I have to give that a go once I plough my way through the 23 pages. Thanks for the link - I can see many following!.

fritzman
05-27-2007, 05:33 PM
Nice post - I have to give that a go once I plough my way through the 23 pages. Thanks for the link - I can see many following!.

Thanks

I have been following it since day1 and it really is a pretty amazing chipset.

I haven't got a board with the newer ICH9R chipset yet, but I can see a P5K variant on the horizon!

davexl
05-27-2007, 05:47 PM
Hi guys,

I have been upgrading my renderfarm to Q6600s, and I am wondering if it is even worth trying on my P5W-DH boxes?

I have done ok with my P5B Deluxe/P5K Deluxe systems, getting 3456 to 3500 MHz on air. (thank you Ultra 120 Extreme!)

I have heard terrible things about the P5W and Q6600s - anyone had any success with them?

zsamz_
05-27-2007, 07:50 PM
well its official my p5w pissin me off
? u guys recommend the commando or the p5k or the p5k deluxe

i am gettin the q6600 in july

Liquid3D
05-27-2007, 08:56 PM
P5K Deluxe

What are the benefits of the 2004 BIOS? Any at all?

fritzman
05-27-2007, 09:12 PM
well its official my p5w pissin me off
? u guys recommend the commando or the p5k or the p5k deluxe

i am gettin the q6600 in july

P5K Deluxe is what I'll be getting

pH(x)
05-27-2007, 11:26 PM
I am eying an Asus P5K DLX as well ;)

Though I may end up waiting for Penryn before upgrading again.

sesdave
05-28-2007, 01:15 AM
A general point which I hope most agree with - as of late there a quite a few posts b****ing about this board. I thought the purpose of this thread is for people to state P5W problems and get advice from the large audience of people who have good experience in overclocking especially on this board. That way all can achieve the best performance they can from using this board. Be nice to keep it focused on that and the posts informative!.

holwill
05-28-2007, 09:01 AM
Well all I have is praise for this board, since August last year it has not missed a beat! I have had no problems with ram timings,no problems with raid 0 and since changing from a l624a to l644g it sits happily @3.6 with manual timings.I can not say the same about previous Abit or Gigabyte boards!:D

MacClipper
05-28-2007, 09:21 AM
I agree that this is one seriously stable mobo - after settling the early teething Jmicron driver issues, been running mine without much problems till now.

Still on BIOS 1506, I wonder if the latter BIOS versions allow a manually selected Vcore and still allow EIST/C1E to work (just like on my previously owned P5B Dlx)?

Ra7or
05-28-2007, 11:05 AM
Not true - remember its only a guide not a bible! Only some have to use SPD enabled to boot above 370. There could be many other reasons why you cant run 400 with manual settings on memory. Do you know if you CPU can run 400 FSB - you arent guaranteed that it will. What settings are you using in the bios for your overclock.

I am running with 400FSB, full stable with orthos, but with very bad timmings, I don't know if it is because of the BIOS version, mine its 1901 and I have tried 2004 also.

In the guide I have checked and compared to my settings and it seemed alright.
I think that this mobo can give more FSB, maybe 420Mhz.
Regards

nicepun
05-28-2007, 11:17 AM
I don't think we're going to get anymore updates for this mobo, since the chipset mobos are coming out.

sesdave
05-28-2007, 02:07 PM
I am running with 400FSB, full stable with orthos, but with very bad timmings, I don't know if it is because of the BIOS version, mine its 1901 and I have tried 2004 also.

In the guide I have checked and compared to my settings and it seemed alright.
I think that this mobo can give more FSB, maybe 420Mhz.
Regards

Are you trying to run 1:1 DDR800 with the memory in you signature . If you are I am suprised it runs at all at that speed with any timings !. You could really do with some 2 x 1GB PC2-6400 at least. What timings are you using..

Edit - Lawrywild is probably right - I checked the RAM list and they my have micron chips - What rev are they.?. If they are Microns they should run DDR 800 - 4,4,4,12 with some extra volts which will be fine.

lawrywild
05-28-2007, 04:06 PM
That corsair I think has same chips as my old ADATA stuff which did ddr2-920 4-4-4-12 with 2.2v so it's not bad stuff ;)

zsamz_
05-28-2007, 05:02 PM
i'm keepin board cause its stable

tried flashing back bios to 1701 but afudos cant load bios
had renamed it P5WDH.ROM
tried by usb verry weird

zsamz_
05-28-2007, 11:24 PM
p5w just died lol
rma here i come :)

~aoe~
05-29-2007, 12:12 AM
Lawrywild: I was just checking the pics of your rig in your sig, and was wondering what chipset heatsinks you are using on the NB and SB. I've been having problems trying to install the Thermalright HR-05 on the NB (retaining clip supplied doesn't work), so am looking for an alternative.

Additionally, you seem to have kept the original mosfet heatsink, which suggests you cut the heatpipes. Is this as simple as it looks, or is there a secret to it?

lawrywild
05-29-2007, 01:21 AM
They're thermaltake extreme spirit II's and yeh, it's as easy as it looks.

Ra7or
05-29-2007, 10:02 AM
Are you trying to run 1:1 DDR800 with the memory in you signature . If you are I am suprised it runs at all at that speed with any timings !. You could really do with some 2 x 1GB PC2-6400 at least. What timings are you using..

Edit - Lawrywild is probably right - I checked the RAM list and they my have micron chips - What rev are they.?. If they are Microns they should run DDR 800 - 4,4,4,12 with some extra volts which will be fine.

I have tried running with 800Mhz and 600Mhz with my mems, the SPD was enable because even with 1:1 or 4:3 the computer just wont boot with SPD enable.
I think that with this mobo the best is running 1:1, but I just don't have any mem cooler, I am waiting to buy one:p:

You were talking about my mem's ICs?? If I am not wrong My mems are (VS1GBKIT667D2) with Powerchips ICs.
Tanks for helping me:up:

lawrywild
05-29-2007, 10:15 AM
Yeah, they aren't Micron for sure sesdave. (my ADATA's weren't Micron ;) )

Mine also did not boot manual timings. It was definately the ram like I've said right from the start of this thread. Same board now with 4GB Ballistix and booting manual timings is no problem at all.

I was lucky and sold mine right before the price drops on ebay and managed to basically trade budget ram in for D9 Ballistix at no extra expense :D

Ra7or, if you can, I suggest trying to sell the ram and get some D9 while it's so cheap. I recommend Ballistix ofcourse ;) plus Crucial have an amazing RMA service.

Ra7or
05-29-2007, 11:03 AM
Yeah, they aren't Micron for sure sesdave. (my ADATA's weren't Micron ;) )

Mine also did not boot manual timings. It was definately the ram like I've said right from the start of this thread. Same board now with 4GB Ballistix and booting manual timings is no problem at all.

I was lucky and sold mine right before the price drops on ebay and managed to basically trade budget ram in for D9 Ballistix at no extra expense :D

Ra7or, if you can, I suggest trying to sell the ram and get some D9 while it's so cheap. I recommend Ballistix ofcourse ;) plus Crucial have an amazing RMA service.

Thanks for the advise;) I am going to do some more OC and than bye bye value pack.

Now that times are changing I am thinking in a 2Gb or 4Gb pack of OCZ, Teamgroup maybe, or Crucial, I don't know yet.
Thanks for everything:up:

lawrywild
05-29-2007, 12:18 PM
Woohoo, finally I got a hold of a BIOS editor which will open recent AMI bios files :D

http://rapidshare.com/files/34110860/AMI_tool_8_RC1.rar

Run AMIBCP.EXE in the archive then open a ROM. Thing is there isn't much to edit in a P5WDH bios :(

GFORCE100
05-29-2007, 12:39 PM
Woohoo, finally I got a hold of a BIOS editor which will open recent AMI bios files :D

http://rapidshare.com/files/34110860/AMI_tool_8_RC1.rar

Run AMIBCP.EXE in the archive then open a ROM. Thing is there isn't much to edit in a P5WDH bios :(

There's actually a lot you can change if you open up the tree like structure for various sub-menus.

lawrywild
05-29-2007, 12:42 PM
Yeh I know about them ofcourse lol but there is no extra options to unhide in the BIOS.

roughtrader
05-29-2007, 01:35 PM
Hi all,

I have a 6420 C2D with P5W DH. Right now I'm using Geil DDR2 800 modules.
I can get 400 MHz FSB, 800 MHz memory, but only with SPD which produces awful timings.
I can also get 333 MHz FSB, 1000MHz memory, 5-5-5-15 manual settings.

I'm thinking to get G.Skill 2GBHZ memory modules because I heard they can post 4-4-4-12 timings in SPD. It seems that regardless of what memory is in the banks, the P5W won't post with 400 MHz FSB unless SPD is enabled.

Do the G.Skill modules actually produce SPD 4-4-4-12 at 800 MHz? Anyone have any other memory recommendations? My target is 400 FSB with 4-4-4-12 timings at 800 MHz.

Thanks,

RoughTrader

lawrywild
05-29-2007, 01:56 PM
It seems that regardless of what memory is in the banks, the P5W won't post with 400 MHz FSB unless SPD is enabled.

Erm maybe you want to read 5 posts above yours :rolleyes:

roughtrader
05-29-2007, 03:10 PM
I haven't read anything definitive about the 2GBHZ's in this thread.
Before I buy, I want to make sure these modules will SPD to 4-4-4-12 with P5WDH. Any info on this?

Thanks,

RoughTrader

malik22
05-29-2007, 03:26 PM
Whats the max fsb for a q6600 on this board?

lawrywild
05-29-2007, 03:35 PM
No everything will run 5-6-6-18 with SPD timings above 266fsb.

lawrywild
05-29-2007, 03:36 PM
Whats the max fsb for a q6600 on this board?

That is entirely dependant on the board itself and the cpu.

crossg
05-29-2007, 03:40 PM
Whats the max fsb for a q6600 on this board? I am only able to get about 340 fsb stable(bios 2004) but I don't believe it 's the max fsb. When I up the Vcore over 1.35v it boots to the welcome screen and reboots. So I have the same question as you. Has anybody had any luck getting over 360 fsb stable on this board. My question is Here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2213014&postcount=111)

bichi
05-29-2007, 04:33 PM
Woohoo, finally I got a hold of a BIOS editor which will open recent AMI bios files :D

Thanks for the nice tools...

There's actually a lot you can change if you open up the tree like structure for various sub-menus.

Agreed! - will be a timesaver/less errors, if one sets settings that don't need changes every "experimental" attempt....
examples: default CPU, chipset features and QFAN Control settings!

roughtrader
05-29-2007, 04:38 PM
No everything will run 5-6-6-18 with SPD timings above 266fsb.

lawrywild,

Is there any way to get 4-4-4-12 with 1:1 400 FSB? Is there any memory that the P5W DH will allow to have manual timings with 400 FSB?

RoughTrader

davexl
05-29-2007, 05:18 PM
I am only able to get about 340 fsb stable(bios 2004) but I don't believe it 's the max fsb. When I up the Vcore over 1.35v it boots to the welcome screen and reboots. So I have the same question as you. Has anybody had any luck getting over 360 fsb stable on this board. My question is Here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2213014&postcount=111)

How did you even get 340 Stable? :eek:

Mine is a disaster, nothing over 3000MHz is stable. I can't boot over 3100MHz and can't go higher regardless of vcore.

BIOS 2004, Ultra 120X

And I was thinking getting q6600s over 3450MHz on my P5B and P5K deluxe was tricky!

crossg
05-29-2007, 07:16 PM
How did you even get 340 Stable? :eek:

Mine is a disaster, nothing over 3000MHz is stable. I can't boot over 3100MHz and can't go higher regardless of vcore.

BIOS 2004, Ultra 120X

And I was thinking getting q6600s over 3450MHz on my P5B and P5K deluxe was tricky!

Well the P5K something (probably deluxe) will be my investment for sure. I had all sorts of trouble with this combination and just kept tweaking the settings. But the one that got it to boot and stay booted at 3240 was setting the MCH to 1.85v and it started to respond but then I ran into the vcore problem.:( Been running @345 FSB and Folding@home 24/7 for the last three days with core temp averaging around 52 deg at the hottest core so it seems pretty stable.:)

davexl
05-29-2007, 07:34 PM
Well the P5K something (probably deluxe) will be my investment for sure. I had all sorts of trouble with this combination and just kept tweaking the settings. But the one that got it to boot and stay booted at 3240 was setting the MCH to 1.85v and it started to respond but then I ran into the vcore problem.:( Been running @345 FSB and Folding@home 24/7 for the last three days with core temp averaging around 52 deg at the hottest core so it seems pretty stable.:)

Yeah, I think this is too much trouble for a headache, I will sell the P5Ws and replace them with P5K or P5Bs... thanks for your post.

~aoe~
05-30-2007, 12:54 AM
They're thermaltake extreme spirit II's and yeh, it's as easy as it looks.
Thx for that.

Incredibly, I managed to find somewhere in Spain that sells them, and now have a couple on order.

lawrywild
05-30-2007, 01:00 AM
lawrywild,

Is there any way to get 4-4-4-12 with 1:1 400 FSB? Is there any memory that the P5W DH will allow to have manual timings with 400 FSB?

RoughTrader

Are you having a laugh?

Read that same post I asked to read before... :shakes:

sesdave
05-30-2007, 04:06 AM
Are you having a laugh?

Read that same post I asked to read before... :shakes:

Totally agree - as has been stated many times some memory wont run some will. Even my (overpriced when I bought them) rev2.1 Corsair XMS with Promos run 4,4,4,12 manual settings 400 1:1.

This is an interesting thread on SPD editing tool which might be fun to try .http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=123624. I thought DRAM SPD=enabled read from the RAM SPD but I just tried it with mine and got 5.6.6.18 but CPU-z shown 4,4,4,12 as the SPD.
Edit - my mistake its booting from SPD EEPROM. So u could probably use editor to change SPD on most memory to tighter timmings and a VDIMM mod (or BIOS edit ?) default volts if it need more than 1.8v after CMOS clear..

roughtrader
05-30-2007, 11:10 AM
Totally agree - as has been stated many times some memory wont run some will. Even my (overpriced when I bought them) rev2.1 Corsair XMS with Promos run 4,4,4,12 manual settings 400 1:1.

This is an interesting thread on SPD editing tool which might be fun to try .http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=123624. I thought DRAM SPD=enabled read from the RAM SPD but I just tried it with mine and got 5.6.6.18 but CPU-z shown 4,4,4,12 as the SPD. Could u use BIOS editor to change SPD defaults if it is the BIOS.?

What is the corsair model number for your memory?
Is it TWIN2X2048-6400C4 ?

Thanks.

holwill
05-30-2007, 12:24 PM
My Corsair Ram xms6404v1.2 0626098-3 Micron D9Gxx (B6-x) runs at manual speed timings 1/1 @400fsb I assume because it is D9s used on early revisions.

sesdave
05-30-2007, 12:27 PM
What is the corsair model number for your memory?
Is it TWIN2X2048-6400C4 ?

Thanks.

Yes - its rev 2.1 so its Promos chips. Runs fine 1:1 @400 but dont o/c much. If you want to run FSB higher or tigher timmings you would be better of with Micron D9s as lawrywild has indicated as it offers a lot more o/c capability. Heres a RAMlist for what chips are on what memory - doesnt have latest higher rated stuff.
http://ramlist.infinityx.nl/ddr2/
Also check one of my previous post which has a link to an memory article which concludes that FSB 400 1:1 DDR800 with tightest timings is better than running FSB 400 4:5. unless you o/c the CPU above 400 FSB.

roughtrader
05-30-2007, 12:58 PM
Yes - its rev 2.1 so its Promos chips. Runs fine 1:1 @400 but dont o/c much. If you want to run FSB higher or tigher timmings you would be better of with Micron D9s as lawrywild has indicated as it offers a lot more o/c capability. Heres a RAMlist for what chips are on what memory - doesnt have latest higher rated stuff.
http://ramlist.infinityx.nl/ddr2/
Also check one of my previous post which has a link to an memory article which concludes that FSB 400 1:1 DDR800 with tightest timings is better than running FSB 400 4:5. unless you o/c the CPU above 400 FSB.

Thanks for the info!

mikepaul
05-30-2007, 01:10 PM
Yes - its rev 2.1 so its Promos chips. Runs fine 1:1 @400 but dont o/c much.
I'm not sure what rev mine is, but it tops out @410 1:1. ANYTHING higher eventually fails stress testing. No really GOOD reason to replace it just for that...

sesdave
05-30-2007, 02:01 PM
I'm not sure what rev mine is, but it tops out @410 1:1. ANYTHING higher eventually fails stress testing. No really GOOD reason to replace it just for that...

You may get higher FSB on CPU with better ram - you also may not !. it propbably same as mine cos the early rev had micron d9 which clock way better.

zoob
05-30-2007, 11:41 PM
Background:
P5WDH 2004 BIOS
Vista Ultimate X64
4 x 1 GB RAM
4 SATA hard drives (3 ICH7, 1 SIL)

Weirdest thing happened to me just now:

I started a video encoding job pegging my CPU at around 100% load.
The drive attached to the silicon image controller starts going nuts. At first I'm in a command prompt browsing directories, then next I can't list files in a few directories, then many directories.

I check event viewer and see the following:

- The device, \Device\Ide\iaStor0, did not respond within the timeout period.
- The shadow copy of volume F: could not create shadow copy storage on volume F:.
- The file system structure on the disk is corrupt and unusable. Please run the chkdsk utility on the volume \Device\HarddiskVolume4.

Stuff on other drives were fine, no signs of instantaneous corruption.

I did a warm boot and the BIOS gets stuck detecting the drive on the SIL controller. Cold boot, it detects fine and I can access all of the files no sweat. Chkdsk reports no problems!

Damned Asus and EZ-RAID ports.

ankh
05-31-2007, 02:09 AM
hi
i've problem with a p5wdh and 4 dimm pc5300 value corsair
when i put only 3 dimm system boot correctly but with one more system can't boot
windows xp didn't start
i 've test the 4 dimm they are ok and the 4 slot of the motherboard they 're ok too
i down know what's the matter this MoBo support 8Go normaly so..
i'm waiting for help thanx

experttech2007
05-31-2007, 09:10 AM
I am unable to use 4 GB of the OCZ Platium Rev2 RAM on this mobo. Has anyone been able to do it? Boots up fine but Windows crashes after a few mins. Orthos also is a NO GO.

The only option I see is to exchange the additional 2 GB I got for some 4 GB of other brand...unless you guys have any suggestions.

Mem voltage: 2.0
Memory Remap: Off

Works perfectly with 2GB, very stable but No go with 4 GB

Family man 72
05-31-2007, 09:34 AM
I am unable to use 4 GB of the OCZ Platium Rev2 RAM on this mobo. Has anyone been able to do it? Boots up fine but Windows crashes after a few mins. Orthos also is a NO GO.

The only option I see is to exchange the additional 2 GB I got for some 4 GB of other brand...unless you guys have any suggestions.

Mem voltage: 2.0
Memory Remap: Off

Works perfectly with 2GB, very stable but No go with 4 GB

Try to enable memory remap. Mine is working great with 4GB and Vista Ultimate 64 (2GB G.Skill 6400HZ + 2GB OCZ 8500SLI).

experttech2007
05-31-2007, 09:39 AM
Try to enable memory remap. Mine is working great with 4GB and Vista Ultimate 64 (2GB G.Skill 6400HZ + 2GB OCZ 8500SLI).

I wanted it to be stable with 32 bit Win XP Prof as well, as I will use it (along with the 64 bit Vista I am planning to try/purchase).

Does the memory remap have any effect for 32 bit Oses at all? Will try it today evening, nonetheless and see...

experttech2007
05-31-2007, 09:40 AM
Does Memset have anything to do with this? I used memset for the first 2 gigs to set the SPD to 5-5-5-15 (which of course never worked). Now when I run memset it detects only the first 2 GB of RAM :confused:

How do I rset the SPD to factory settings?

ankh
05-31-2007, 10:02 AM
up plz

Liquid3D
05-31-2007, 12:08 PM
I am unable to use 4 GB of the OCZ Platium Rev2 RAM on this mobo. Has anyone been able to do it? Boots up fine but Windows crashes after a few mins. Orthos also is a NO GO.

The only option I see is to exchange the additional 2 GB I got for some 4 GB of other brand...unless you guys have any suggestions.

Mem voltage: 2.0
Memory Remap: Off

Works perfectly with 2GB, very stable but No go with 4 GB

Have you tried raising the memory voltage top 2.2V

Liquid3D
05-31-2007, 12:24 PM
Whats the max fsb for a q6600 on this board?


The Quad Cores aren't doing too well on this board for many reasons. The 975 chipset is somewhat dated it was relased a year before Core 2 Duo.

I've heard 333FSB for q6600 on 975 chipset boards which may be related to a locked multiplier? Are Q6600 multiplier's locked? On the P5B 378FSB was attained. The power consumption in watts for the Q6600 is approx 102W measured off 12V rail between CPU power circuitry at LOAD, the power consumption for an e6600 is 61W LOAD using the same measurement technque (LOAD = Prime95 x4).

I belaive the P5K is your best bet for this chip, in act the P5K is the best bet period, hence the Crazy Eddie price, "Insane"

sesdave
05-31-2007, 01:26 PM
Does Memset have anything to do with this? I used memset for the first 2 gigs to set the SPD to 5-5-5-15 (which of course never worked). Now when I run memset it detects only the first 2 GB of RAM :confused:

How do I rset the SPD to factory settings?

memset doesnt change the memory SPD. That will be what it was when you bought them. Memset allows you to change memory settings in windows and apply them at windows startup if you hit 'save' which sounds like what you have done. I would uninstall memset and apply any manual settings in the BIOS. If you still want to use memset change settings and use apply which only applys the changes for the duration of the windows session. Once you are happy they are stable then save or set manually in BIOS.

experttech2007
05-31-2007, 03:47 PM
Have you tried raising the memory voltage top 2.2V

If I can run 2 Gb stable at 1.9v how would more voltage benefit 4 GB? Still, I will give it a shot. Thx

experttech2007
05-31-2007, 03:54 PM
memset doesnt change the memory SPD. That will be what it was when you bought them. Memset allows you to change memory settings in windows and apply them at windows startup if you hit 'save' which sounds like what you have done. I would uninstall memset and apply any manual settings in the BIOS. If you still want to use memset change settings and use apply which only applys the changes for the duration of the windows session. Once you are happy they are stable then save or set manually in BIOS.

After running memset and clicking on "Apply" CPUZ reflects the changed params (Although it shows different, SPD has changed from 4-4-4-15 to 5-5-5-15 @ 400 Mhz) . So I thought it writes to the memory SPD. I never installed memset, its just a standalone exe in a folder called "MemSet" - doesnt even load at startup, so how would it be integrated with windows?

http://maldivz.biz/uploads/e508a78861.gif

I have to keep the setting at SPD in BIOS, any other setting in BIOS doesnt boot up. I am ok with this

lawrywild
06-01-2007, 12:48 AM
Your SPD was never 4-4-4-15, rated timings aren't spd

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=128060

experttech2007
06-01-2007, 12:21 PM
Thanks for the info.

Amon 83
06-02-2007, 11:07 AM
Hi guys,
I want to know if one of you have made a bios mod for these mobo with the American trend program's? I ask you because i have the locked multiplayer on my qx6700 and anymore bios that i tested unlock it!
Can you help me with a bios mod? Thank you

GFORCE100
06-02-2007, 02:29 PM
Hi guys,
I want to know if one of you have made a bios mod for these mobo with the American trend program's? I ask you because i have the locked multiplayer on my qx6700 and anymore bios that i tested unlock it!
Can you help me with a bios mod? Thank you

Very good question. The answer is no, not yet at least. Only BIOS 1506 and earlier allow changing the multiplier on Extreme CPU's. I don't know why Asus is being as pathetic to not understand this.

Here's hope hey.

BenchZowner
06-02-2007, 02:42 PM
actually its BIOS v1601 and earlier ;) [ lol I missed a key and typed earlies instead of earlier :D ]

WeldZilla
06-02-2007, 11:36 PM
G.Skill 6400 HZ works just fine on my P5W DH boards.
Here are a couple shots for you.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/pi32.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/pidudes.jpg
Just incase you need proof it is G.Skill
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/cpuzfun.jpg

This is 6400HZ to me, it is the best around

WZ

With my latest P5W DH I have broke into the 12minute50xx range with G.Skill HZ
You will note I had to loosen the timings just a bit!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/pi32m.jpg
Oh and if you really go nuts it will run 4 sticks also. I have run them up to 417fsb but it runs out real
smooth here
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/4running.jpg

I just love my P5W's. So much in fact I have yet another one headed my way!!
Lucky number 13. I am keeping this one too.

WZ

Cornel
06-03-2007, 09:37 PM
Hello, i need some help...

What ram shold i select? i shall have 4GB

Corsair Dominator TWIN2X6400C4D 2048MB, DDR2,2x1GB(KIT),DHX,E.P.P, CL4-4-4-12T

or

Crucial DDR2 BallistiX PC8500 2048MB CL5 ,Kit w/two matched BallistiX 128Megx64

I am currently running at 395 x 8 = 3.2 ghz, and are not planning to overclock any more, maybe raise it to 400, time will show...

pr33tz
06-04-2007, 02:29 AM
Is it possible for the the P5W DH to boot up from a RAID card? I have a Rocket Raid 2310 PCI-E card with 4 x 320GB HD's and want to boot using these as I'm planning on getting rid of the Raptors.

jagt
06-04-2007, 03:43 AM
Does anyone know if it's possible to run one IDE DVD burner and one IDE HDD on the same IDE cable/channel on this board? I have one IDE HDD and one IDE DVD burner in my system, and it's so annoying that I have to use separate IDE cables for both of them. I have yet not gotten it to work, no matter what I've tried. It would make my cable management so much easier if I could ditch the other IDE cable!

graham_h
06-04-2007, 03:47 AM
easiest fix for this board ??
Buy a P5K Deluxe...... all your problems go away :yepp: :D

http://www.extremepc.com.au/images/3_6GhzP5k.jpg

nicepun
06-04-2007, 03:53 AM
Does anyone know if it's possible to run one IDE DVD burner and one IDE HDD on the same IDE cable/channel on this board? I have one IDE HDD and one IDE DVD burner in my system, and it's so annoying that I have to use separate IDE cables for both of them. I have yet not gotten it to work, no matter what I've tried. It would make my cable management so much easier if I could ditch the other IDE cable!

Make one a master and the other one a slave and see what happens.

easiest fix for this board ??
Buy a P5K Deluxe...... all your problems go away :yepp: :D

PIC REMOVED TO KEEP IT SHORT

Ha ha, Cas 33 LOL

jagt
06-04-2007, 03:56 AM
Make one a master and the other one a slave and see what happens.



Ha ha, Cas 33 LOL

Yeah well, I obviously tried that. It just finds the master, and the slave is gone. Is it in fact possible to run HDD + Optical on the same IDE cable on any motherboard?

nicepun
06-04-2007, 04:05 AM
Yeah well, I obviously tried that. It just finds the master, and the slave is gone. Is it in fact possible to run HDD + Optical on the same IDE cable on any motherboard?

What are you running on the SATAS?

jagt
06-04-2007, 04:15 AM
What are you running on the SATAS?

2x 200GB in RAID 0 and 2x 320GB on all the primary SATA ports (IC7H).

nicepun
06-04-2007, 04:45 AM
2x 200GB in RAID 0 and 2x 320GB on all the primary SATA ports (IC7H).

Well, if you rather have a SATA Cable going across instead of an IDE cable, you can always get an IDE to SATA adapter and use the far left SATA plug.

Family man 72
06-04-2007, 05:49 AM
Hello, i need some help...

What ram shold i select? i shall have 4GB

Corsair Dominator TWIN2X6400C4D 2048MB, DDR2,2x1GB(KIT),DHX,E.P.P, CL4-4-4-12T

or

Crucial DDR2 BallistiX PC8500 2048MB CL5 ,Kit w/two matched BallistiX 128Megx64

I am currently running at 395 x 8 = 3.2 ghz, and are not planning to overclock any more, maybe raise it to 400, time will show...

Get Ballistix, use 4:5 divider and see them fly:cheer2:

EntityAT
06-04-2007, 04:25 PM
I have a GeForce 7300 and a 8800GTO, and I continually have problems when the computer tries to boot and run chkdsk. I get the first couple of bootup screens, followed by the XP Splash screen, but when the screen for checkdisk loads the video goes out, and while I can see the LED lit up and see it apparently trying to work/check the disk, I can't see any of the actual progress. I've left it for upwards of 1/2 an hour while the disk grinds away with no luck. The same thing is true when it tries to boot other programs that access the disk in a similar way (Acronis, Partition Magic). Any ideas what might be going on and how I could fix this?

Rob

WeldZilla
06-04-2007, 06:42 PM
Well graham if all you are getting is 3600 with those lame memory timings , uh...... no thanks. Come back showing a daily clock of over 4050mhz with your p5K on air or liquid and I'll take a look as long as it has tight timings and can run pi in under 13 and hits over 23,000 on cpu score on aqmk3 and over 3500 cpu score on 3D06 and if not . go crap a different thread cuz 3600 is embarrasingly low and lame!

WZ

SiliconValley
06-05-2007, 07:24 PM
easiest fix for this board ??
Buy a P5K Deluxe...... all your problems go away :yepp: :D


What kind of problems ? This is a very stable board for me.

Anyway, at the same clock speed, P5W DH is still faster. I have both boards so I know.
But the P35 board does much better in FSB overclocking. Change the multiplier, Run it in 8 x 450 on the P5K and it'll man handle the very same chip running 9 x 400 on the P5W DH, period.

lawrywild
06-06-2007, 07:20 AM
Only thing I dislike enough on this board to make me want to change it, is its crappy ram clocking ability. I can't even reach ddr2-1000 stable grrrr. I know some boards are better but mine just sucks with ram clocking but can do decent fsb on air, kinda strange...

Amon 83
06-06-2007, 10:25 AM
actually its BIOS v1601 and earlier ;) [ lol I missed a key and typed earlies instead of earlier :D ]

For me the only bios that unlock all multi is 1506 but if you give me the ucode error :mad:! Isn't there anyone if can mod the bios for disabled the microcode update menù?

I have seen on the asus site under the cpu support 3 celeron supported from bios 2103 it's new? Do you know anthing about that?

Thank you and sorry for my bad english!

zcwaa22
06-06-2007, 12:09 PM
Hi,

Im new to this forum so i hope this is the right place to post

I am having problems booting up my computer, my specs are as follows and all components are new;

Intel Core2DUo 6420
2Gb Corsair Ram
**Asus P5W DH Deluxe**

**Antec P150 with NeoHE 430W**

The light on the mainboard is on when the NeoHE's power switch is turned on but the machine only occasionally powers up when the cases' power button is pressed. It sometimes powers up fine, sometimes not at all and sometimes comes on 30secs to 10minutes later. I have rebuilt the system out the case many times and bought a 2nd Asus P5W DH Deluxe to check if i had a faulty mainboard but the problems persist.

I would like to RMA my case+PSU but i have read that the Neo HE series did have incompatiblilities with this mainboard, is this the case? I dont want to RMA it only to find that the PSU works fine and theres just an incomaptibility between components.

Please could you suggest what i should do next,

Thanks in advance

dDub
06-06-2007, 02:17 PM
So, now that it's summer time here on the east coast and with things heating up i decided to grab another case fan and Northbridge cooler to keep the temps from raising in the warm weather...

First off i went with the easy install and threw in the case fan and attached it to Chassis 1 pins. Powered up, and nothing. Moved it to Chassis 2 and still nothing. hrmn. Plugged it into CPU and guess what, nothing. So the thought was that the fan is defective but i decided to prove it by unplugging one of the Power fans ... guess what this time, it worked! The deal was the same with the NB cooler so it's not defective products that i bought.

Trying to resolve the issue i tried default BIOS settings, various Q-Fan on/off and all sorts of combinations. The bottom line though is that with default settings everything should work, right? One thing i've noticed in the BIOS fans settings is a N/A reading for all but the PWR fans.

As a side note - PC Probe is not detecting any sensors whatsoever and i can't see or modify the position of the monitoring panels, it's stays stuck on "right" no matter where i change it. WHen i hit config, all i see is a blank white box .Could this somehow be related? CPU-Z, SpeedFan and Core Temp all seem to be working fine.

Is there something blatant that i'm missing or could it be a corrupt BIOS issue(2004)? I've looked here and elsewhere but can't find anything similar. Any ideas?

WeldZilla
06-06-2007, 09:09 PM
Well I took delivery of my 14th P5W DH today I Have had great success with the previous 13!! Well I had to pull my P5N-E sli board out of WZ3 first. So tonight I tore apart one system and put together 2. A few shots of the action
It came from the Egg!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/IMG_3445a.jpg
As you can see my case was gutted like a fish and just waiting.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/IMG_3446a.jpg
Together again!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/IMG_3447a.jpg
I repaired widows so I could get my Intel ICH7 raid drivers back on so my raid would work. Then had to reinstall all the Windows updates including service pack 2. So while that was happening I put my P5N-E sli back together.
Oh and here is the speed I have been running right out of the box!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/outofthethebox.jpg
OK back to the P5N-E
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/IMG_3456a.jpg
It too was up and running in no time!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/IMG_3458a.jpg
And my little 6400 on My P5N-E runs good too!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/yupyup.jpg
See it is easy to get these P5W DH boards to run nice and fast!!!
Their little brothers too!
You will note I run G.Skill 6400HZ on both systems.
I also put on bios 2004
WZ

skorzney
06-07-2007, 01:02 AM
Gday

Im new to this sort of thing and have been researching overclocking over the last few months.
I have been able to get my pc to 3.4 Ghz but sorta chickened out and am now running at 3ghz.
My question relates to Ram timings on this motherboard.

When i first overclocked the Cpu the motherboard automaticly chose 3200 as its ram setting and after reading this forum i have changed it to 834 Mhz. It now correctly shows me as 6400 in the bios post. I hope im making sense here. And now my question.

Since now my ram is running at 416Mhz will this make me out of sync with the bus speed of the cpu 333 mhz and is it safe to do this since i cant determine the temperature of my ram ?

I hope you can give me a few pointers as i have tried to make sence of all the forums but still have many questions.

My current specs are: ( is this a good system for overclocking ? )


Gigabyte Aurora Case (Black)
Themaltake 850w Power Supply
Asus P5W DH Deluxe Bios 2004 03/07/2007
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4Ghz running @ 3000 MHz (9 x 333)
Asus Silent Square over CPU
Leadtek Nvidia 8800 GTX 768mb
4 x 1GB Kingston 6400 DD2 800 running @ 416.8 Mhz FSB:DRAM 4:5
SoundBlaster X-Fi