ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

[crazyea]

Well, I'm glad you had some success!

[Timmaah]

Hey, i got an e6600 and i want to know whats the max amount of voltage i can put into this baby before damaging it. Highest ive gone has been 1.52v.

Basically i just want the pc on for 10 minutes to do a super-pi run. Thanks in advance!
:confused:

[John600rr]

:confused:


I've been running 1.6V for like 9 months or so now. Only gets me 3.41GHz on my Week 24 though. It all depends on your temps.

[Timmaah]

Well ive hit 3.54ghz on 1.53, with my week24... not stable though. It's not only your temps though.. Too much voltage = severely decreased lifespan

[Gig4moller]

Damn 1.6v for 3.4 :o I run that at 1.3v... Really bad chip you got there

[anzial]

quit showing off, instead, try to explain how to reach those speeds :D

[Timmaah]

or what the max safe voltage is... :/

Week 24 batch is just poor for overclocking :(

Typical that i get the cpu from teh crap batch!

[lawrywild]

Yeh, typical here too :(

[anzial]

That's why you need to try several cpus to find most overclockable. First one took me to 3.2, wouldn't go further. Second one was happy at 3.3 and above, but run too hot and rebooted computer every time it didn't like some settings. Third one still runs a little hot but behaves better than a second one :D With it, I was able to hit 3.6ghz on water w/o a hitch - 8 hours of orthos stable.. will do 24 later on ;)

[WeldZilla]

Don't make setting up a raid on the ICH7 harder than it is. It is absolutely easy to do this. For those about to try this there is nothing to it!!!
First if you have no other computer around to put the driver onto a floppy it's ok.
just put in your CD that came with your board and it will give you the option to use "Make disc" This will load the raid drivers onto the floppy

Now enter bios. On the "Main" page scroll down to "IDE Configuration"
High light it and hit enter. This will open up a sub box. You are only concerned
about the first item click on it and switch from IDE to RAID. Your done
Hit F10 and enter. As your sytem starts to boot get ready and when prompted hit CTRL + I both together. This will open up your raid builder
First name your raid setup. Mine is "Welder" then decide on the block size and so on. When finished hit the Y and enter. When it restarts this time have your windows disc in and your floppy at the ready.
Windows will look over your configuration then you will be prompted to hit F-6
if you have any 3rd party devices . you now hit F6 i always give it a few taps.
Probably not necessary but I do. Soon you will be prompted to decide whether you want to install any 3rd party devices. YOU DO!, so hit "S" the insert your floppy disc and hit enter. A list will come up for you to go through. you want the ICH7 but there are 3 to choose from!!
The first is ICH7 for Notebooks
The Second is ICH7 (RAID) for Desktops
The Third will say ICH7 AHCI for Desktops..
MAKE SURE you Choose "ICH7 RAID for Desktops" and hit enter As the windows loading process continues I do the slow format. You can do the quick.

you will while installing windows get a couple alerts that your software does not meet Microsoft's BS just hit ignore and keep installing. Then another will come up saying that your raid drivers has not passed window's BS just ignore and keep loading Windows and soon you wioll be validating and putting on over 100 updates including SP2 and IE7 and WMP11 and you will need WME to run PCmarks and don't forget your Virus scanner. And it will all be good.
I have this fresh in my mind cuz i just set up a raid and finished the last update about 30minutes ago.
Remember, Don't over think this stuff. It is all very easy. I have installed all the necessities off the P5W DH disc now I need to put on some utilities and do a little straigfhtening of this little baby's files

Good luck to you and Remember to chose correctly between 32bit and 64bit drivers

Keep it Simple!!

WZ

[FabricioGS]

or what the max safe voltage is... :/

Week 24 batch is just poor for overclocking :(

Typical that i get the cpu from teh crap batch!

I wonder that too. My poor week 23 needs 1,48v to run stable at 3.2GHz (356x9). Damn it :mad:

Is it safe to run at this voltages 24x7?

[intense321]

This is a noob question, but every experienced computer technician I asked hasn't had a reasonable answer.

What is the purpose of having two gigabit ethernet controllers on this board? What am I supposed to do with the 2nd one? Hook that one up to my router to grab a 2nd IP? Hook it up to a 2nd ISP?

[sniggle]

This is a noob question, but every experienced computer technician I asked hasn't had a reasonable answer.

What is the purpose of having two gigabit ethernet controllers on this board? What am I supposed to do with the 2nd one? Hook that one up to my router to grab a 2nd IP? Hook it up to a 2nd ISP?

Some newer boards (not the P5W) do NIC teaming, which doubles the transfer rates when used with other teaming devices. However, just two ordinary ethernet ports can allow you to turn your box into a router. This would allow for very advanced firewall and network services that most consumer routers can't supply. I prefer to leave the job up to my DGL-4300 personally. :)

[Luis_GT]

ok, so stopped upgrading my bios since 1707... and asus still hasn't given us the missing memory timings... I hate you asus...

[crazyea]

This is a noob question, but every experienced computer technician I asked hasn't had a reasonable answer.

What is the purpose of having two gigabit ethernet controllers on this board? What am I supposed to do with the 2nd one? Hook that one up to my router to grab a 2nd IP? Hook it up to a 2nd ISP?

Experience doesn't equal smart. Use it for your XBOX or something similiar to get a net connection. Or even connect two computers for a simple network/workgroup. Myself, since I have a gigabit router, I just disable it. :-)

[Nmbr1Ballr]

I have been running 1.5375v since mid december. Thats what mine takes to hit 3.6 (31A)

[crazyea]

Bios setting or in windows voltage?

[X7007]

Is P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2004 any good ?

should i upgrade from 1901?

Thanks in advance

[GFORCE100]

There's no reason why you shouldn't upgrade to 2004, it's stable and doesn't limit overclocking etc.

Just use the latest Asus Update application to do so.

Still doesn't fix the CPU multiplier bug on Extreme CPU's though, Asus is just so so poor when it comes to BIOS updates. It's always a case of if they can be bothered to do something rather than we want our product to be the best hence we'll give it the best BIOS like Intel does on their boards.

[sesdave]

There's no reason why you shouldn't upgrade to 2004, it's stable and doesn't limit overclocking etc.

Just use the latest Asus Update application to do so.

Still doesn't fix the CPU multiplier bug on Extreme CPU's though, Asus is just so so poor when it comes to BIOS updates. It's always a case of if they can be bothered to do something rather than we want our product to be the best hence we'll give it the best BIOS like Intel does on their boards.

I gave it a try using my existing settings and started to get some spurious lockups followed by BSOD - mainly when connected to internet so back to 1707 for me!

[anzial]

Damn, I'm having troubles hitting FSB 430 and above... any hints or suggestions? I did make a NB/SB cooling mod, replaced thermal compound, installed a fan on NB heatsink... Even with 1.85 volts in bios, it won't post at 440 and crashes windows when it's loading at 430... 425fsb is the highest stable for me :(

[S1mon-]

My board sucks aswell... since I got the first revision, with 1,65 vMCH I can only go to 413 FSB MAX which make my E6600 to a maximum speed of 3700 MHz... Really frustrating since I'm willing to reach 4,0 Ghz if possible...

I'll probably buy the new DFI Infinity P965 or borough my mate's P5B Deluxe to achieve this :D

[Timmaah]

I can't go past 400fsb...

:(

[Nmbr1Ballr]

Bios setting or in windows voltage?
bios setting, 1.50 in windows.

[crazyea]

thanks, what are your temps like?

[Timmaah]

On a side-note, there is no easy way of fixing the vdroop is there? I know there is a pencil mod or something of the likes? But seems bit too complicated... Also, i take nobody knows the max safe voltage for the e6600 then?

[m0da]

i was running my previous, A revision, E6600 @1.65v 24/7 with watercooling. ~33*C idle. It ran fine.

[S1mon-]

My CPU is really weird... with 1,54-1,55 vCORE my CPU doesn't is at 28 degrees Idle under a Thermalright Ultra 120... my cores are around 42-43 degrees... This is at 3,6 GHz. When I push a lil further 3,7 GHz for benching I put vCORE at 1,60 V and my cores temperature never go about 50 degrees I dle and my CPU is about 33 degrees...

My CPU is A26.

[anzial]

My CPU is really weird... with 1,54-1,55 vCORE my CPU doesn't is at 28 degrees Idle under a Thermalright Ultra 120... my cores are around 42-43 degrees... This is at 3,6 GHz. When I push a lil further 3,7 GHz for benching I put vCORE at 1,60 V and my cores temperature never go about 50 degrees I dle and my CPU is about 33 degrees...

My CPU is A26.

You confused the heck out of me. Don't quote cpu temp, it's useless, only core temps (from coretemp 0.95). For example: 3.6@1.4vcore idle 32C, 52C load, 3.8@1.55vcore 39C idle, 65C load, room temp around 70-74F. These are my temperatures, but my chip is B-series, which runs hotter than A-series

[roger_h99.nor]

On a side-note, there is no easy way of fixing the vdroop is there? I know there is a pencil mod or something of the likes? But seems bit too complicated... Also, i take nobody knows the max safe voltage for the e6600 then?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=137301

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[Nmbr1Ballr]

thanks, what are your temps like?
Right now, my case says that the temperatures inside the case are around 22ºC and my CPU is running at 43ºC/45ºC.

[Nmbr1Ballr]

I have a problem and was wondering if anyone could provide some help. Very frequently for no reason whatsoever, my internet stops working for all programs. I mean right now I could type this message and next thing I know its done. My internet cord is connected to a linksys router for my mom's laptop and into my cable modem. All lights on the modem and router are fine and how they normally should be. When it does stop working, it affects my mom's laptop as well. What usually fixes it is disabling the connection, taking out the wires and plugging them back in and enabling the connection. Either that or restarting my computer and while it is restarting redoing the wires again. I am pretty sure its not my internet connection that is the problem. Any help?

e6600 @ 3.6ghz (400fsb)
p5wdh deluxe
4-4-3-8 supertalent ram @ 800mhz
x1950xt

[dragonhunter]

I have a problem and was wondering if anyone could provide some help. Very frequently for no reason whatsoever, my internet stops working for all programs. I mean right now I could type this message and next thing I know its done. My internet cord is connected to a linksys router for my mom's laptop and into my cable modem. All lights on the modem and router are fine and how they normally should be. When it does stop working, it affects my mom's laptop as well. What usually fixes it is disabling the connection, taking out the wires and plugging them back in and enabling the connection. Either that or restarting my computer and while it is restarting redoing the wires again. I am pretty sure its not my internet connection that is the problem. Any help?

e6600 @ 3.6ghz (400fsb)
p5wdh deluxe
4-4-3-8 supertalent ram @ 800mhz
x1950xt


I have the same problem as you but instead of using the ethernet port, I use the USB port :confused:

[sesdave]

I have a problem and was wondering if anyone could provide some help. Very frequently for no reason whatsoever, my internet stops working for all programs. I mean right now I could type this message and next thing I know its done. My internet cord is connected to a linksys router for my mom's laptop and into my cable modem. All lights on the modem and router are fine and how they normally should be. When it does stop working, it affects my mom's laptop as well. What usually fixes it is disabling the connection, taking out the wires and plugging them back in and enabling the connection. Either that or restarting my computer and while it is restarting redoing the wires again. I am pretty sure its not my internet connection that is the problem. Any help?

e6600 @ 3.6ghz (400fsb)
p5wdh deluxe
4-4-3-8 supertalent ram @ 800mhz
x1950xt

Sounds like a process of elimination!. Reconnecting cables is overkill unless you have a duff cable or connection. Suggest it is the router hanging as the common point of failure - both machines fail to connect to the internet. Did you have any problems with the router before your machine was connected? - have you tried just rebooting the router without the cable disconnecting etc. Make sure you have latest MArvell LAn drivers loaded on your machine and latest lfirmware on the linksys router - use LAN 1 on he P5W . if you still get problems try and get your hands on another modem/router to see if that elimates problem.

[crazyea]

My internet gets laggy above 400fsb as well.

[Neo07]

How do I remove the optional fan on my P5B-Deluxe Wifi mobo as ive clipped it onto the heatsink which is next to the cpu, and it is slowing down my cpu fan which doesnt go above 1000rpm

[WeldZilla]

Hey Numbr1Ballr, you know I went through the lan connection problem too. for me it was a long time ago. I went to the Asus Site and downloaded the latest Marvell drivers and no more problems. Give it a try. I thought it might be a stability problem cuz it only happened at 430+ fsb but, either way it was fixed with the updated driver. And maybe it just happened.
http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us
Make sure you get the one for your operating system.

WZ

[Liquid3D]

Hey Numbr1Ballr, you know I went through the lan connection problem too. for me it was a long time ago. I went to the Asus Site and downloaded the latest Marvell drivers and no more problems. Give it a try. I thought it might be a stability problem cuz it only happened at 430+ fsb but, either way it was fixed with the updated driver. And maybe it just happened.
http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us
Make sure you get the one for your operating system.

WZ

GOOD CALL we often forget while were constantly updating our BIOS we should be updating our drivers. That's the reason their posted on manufacturer and the chipmaker's themselves websites. I've had a LAN chip fry on me and until it finally did it reaked havoc as I chased electronic gremlins. Until I witnessed the chip blue smoke before my eyes I only knew I was having all sorts of issues that weren't even Internet related although those were just as frequent.

Remember were still overclocking and when you raise that FSB do you really know for sure where divisors may be working and where they may not?

[Timmaah]

I can't go past 400fsb...

:(

I got 400fsb! Only required me to max my mobo volts.. and cpu voltage of 1.5675 in bios... so 1.54 in windows

And it was good enough to do super-pi :D

[Timmaah]

The more i have this board the more i hate it...

So:

At 400fsb.. can only beat with cpu vcore at 1.57 and spd enabled

At anything below 396 (so 395, 394 etc.) or above 400.. i can run it with spd.

Also, at 400fsb.. the pc was reaaally laggy.. at 401fsb there was no lag and i could boot up with 1.56v... so with less vcore. How the feck does that work!? And i could run the ram at 1ghz without spd.. (i couldnt even run it at 1ghz with spd on when it was 400fsb)

So to put it short.. ive finally passed 400fsb.. and the once that good motherboard comes out i may actually use this motherboard for making schnitzel

[Fr3ak]

The more i have this board the more i hate it...

So:

At 400fsb.. can only beat with cpu vcore at 1.57 and spd enabled

At anything below 396 (so 395, 394 etc.) or above 400.. i can run it with spd.

Also, at 400fsb.. the pc was reaaally laggy.. at 401fsb there was no lag and i could boot up with 1.56v... so with less vcore. How the feck does that work!? And i could run the ram at 1ghz without spd.. (i couldnt even run it at 1ghz with spd on when it was 400fsb)

So to put it short.. ive finally passed 400fsb.. and the once that good motherboard comes out i may actually use this motherboard for making schnitzel

What Ram are you using? I had a similar problem when I was using cheap MDT ram. With the Gskill and same bios I could run 400mhz+ and manually set the mem timings.

[lawrywild]

Anyone managed to get AAM working on their harddrives on this mobo? Asus blames it on an incompatibility with A.I.Quiet... :rolleyes:

When I enable with Hitachi Feature Tool it works until I reboot then goes back to default 254 setting... :(

[Deusfaux]

Looking at results form AT and places, my burst speed looks low on the seagate. they're all on the ICH7R

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/deusfaux/segate.gif

And then I have no idea what the hell's going on with the raptors?! 8mb sectors then 32mb sectors test

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/deusfaux/raptors8.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/deusfaux/raptors32.gif

[anzial]

My MCH broke or something. I was experimenting with 9x425fsb, set mch to 1.75 in bios (vcore 1.55) and after like 5 hours of orthos computer rebooted... Now I can't get into windows even with mch=1.85v and fsb 425... Also, before this happened, I was 100% stable at 3.6ghz, 400 fsb, 1.65mch and 1.4vcore (several runs of orthos a few hours each). Now I need to raise mch to 1.75 to be stable.. What's going on here? :(

[WeldZilla]

you know I like these boards so much!! When offered a chance to get a refurbed Rev1.04G for next to nothing I just had to jump on it! What I really like abou this board is that I can run at 425 fsb for daily clock still and I toned back my mem from 3-3-3-4 to 4-4-4-4 at 2.2V my otherboard hates CL4 and only performs great at a steady 2.4V to the mem. Today I ran super pi 32M with my timings set @ 4-3-3-4 Which worked out nice since my fsb was at 434. I have been running at this speed 24/7 for the last 3 days no shut downs or reboots and always with folding runing on one core. Today I rebooted for the pi run and no folding.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/piytre1.jpg

guys if you look at my sig. I believe the biggest difference is the fact I am running G.Skill 6400HZ They are practically giving it away now at Newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231065
I suggest you get it. Or let me keep buying these pieces of crap for nothing(thankyou very much) This is my 6th now. But this one I wanted for myself the whole time. They have all performed in this range. All of them.

WZ

[anzial]

weldzilla, instead of just braggin, you'd be much more appreciated by describing how you got fsb so high ;)

[sniggle]

Wow that is a great deal on those HZ sticks. Makes me want to swap out for these crappy Corsair promos sticks I have, but it wouldn't really help me since this CPU is pretty much at its max anyway, unless I ran a 4:5 ratio on the ram. Meh..

[WeldZilla]

I have shown my bios settings in this thread. I have said more than once to buy the RIGHT memory. I have made enough suggestions. The only difference on the new board compared to the old is now I run less mem voltage and looser timings as I stated. I have actually gone back into the bios this afternoon and bumped the mem voltage to 2.25. It just feels more solid there.
The bios pics are posted. If you cant find them I will repost with my latest settings. Many of you should have no probs passing me by as many of you claim much cooler temps on air than i get with liquid. Right now it is a very warm afternoon here and my place is quite warm yet not warm enough to turn on central cooling system I am folding and f'ing around and my temp right now is 39/37. reminds me when I had my 2.4C running at 3637 for a daily clock, I told everyone the mem I was using that finally let me past 3200 and all the way to 3710 on my little 2.4C. Everyone whined but no-one changed. Buying that G.Skill memory is a steal right now at $169 for 2X1 gigs of 6400HZ and if you still can your board you still have the best memory going so what have you lost. Read this forum I have sen guys jump From 975 to 965 to 680 to 650 jeez hold still and make what you got work.
I swear some of you get a board and today and tommorrow it is a pos and you want something different. Well fine get something different but let it be your memory first. sniggle how do you know, even a divider is not a guarantee that you have maxed your cpu. That is how I picked so many of these board for nothing. You asked I am telling..... again I will post current bios shots if you like I know this is a long thread!
I do not like or use clockgen, to me that is a device to use for a 1M super pi run. To each their own.

WZ

[sniggle]

I meant that I would not run my CPU any faster than 3.6 since the temps are as high as I'd want them. Therefore, getting the HZ sticks would only be beneficial if I ran the memory divider higher or lowered the multiplier, but memory bandwidth doesn't mean as much as cpu speed for my uses, so it's not worth it at the moment.

[WeldZilla]

Well with the G.Skill you would with your fsb set to 400 you could run 1:1 with timings of 3-3-3-4 or 5 at worst. Which would just kick the crap out of 4-4-4-12!! Then if you were to ever get better cooling you would have the better memory on hand. See this is what I mean, for years complaints but no changes!! Or you couls be running your mem on the4:5 divider at 1000DDR with timings of 4-4-3-4 again speeding the hell out of your system...
But Nooooooooooooooooo you are content with your discontentment.
Here are the bios shots once again guys. The newer board shows 1.6 in the bios as compared to the old board which showed 1.632 in the bios when set to 1.65. Well here you go one more time.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/bios3.jpg
Q-fans disabled.....old news. That Liberty has nice rails does yours?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/Bios1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/bios2.jpg


Now about that memory issue you are having and don't know it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/tttt.jpg
Or 1:1 at 3-3-3-4 you decide people. Now earlier some said I was showing off my high clocks. No! this is showing off my high clocks!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/pi90.jpg
Now there it's time to run looser
Try the memory you have nothing to lose!! If you still can the board you still got the good stuff for the next one!!

WZ

[phillai]

Can someone tell me if this works with the new Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 "LGA775 Conroe" 2.13GHz?

[roger_h99.nor]

In support for WeldZilla.
I got no problems running this board at FSB 430 on a 24/7 basis.
RAM : look in sig.

[anzial]

Jeez, nobody's attacking weldzilla, and the memory ain't the issue for most ppl (imho), it's the board. And btw, if you really want good memory, imho you better get this: https://shop4.outpost.com/product/5162136
Far more reputable and after rebate costs less than what weldzilla is trying to sell here :D I have those sticks and with default cpu settings, I can run them at 1:2, the rest of time I have to 1:1, for whatever reason mobo can't handle other ratios, even tho I know I can run the memory up to 533mhz, 1066effective.

And weldzilla, are you saying you didn't mod the board in any way, and run it 400fsb and above at 1.65mch? That prolly won't work for most ppl, otherwise why are their so many volt-mods for this damn board? I'm not saying you are lying, I'm saying you are a minority.

[crazyea]

Far more reputable and after rebate costs less than what weldzilla is trying to sell here :D

lol, the hz is better by a country mile.

[anzial]

lol, the hz is better by a country mile.

right, let's see how GSkill support comes thru if something goes wrong with your hz :cool: OCZ in this regard is untouchable :D Besides, for the lesser price, you get 8500-rated sticks instead of 6400 ones.. I dunno, I'd prefer to have warranty covered speed up to 1066 rather than overclocking 6400 beyond the specs (i'm not saying they cant). Besides, you do realize that D9s are binned, right?

[sesdave]

Jeez, nobody's attacking weldzilla, and the memory ain't the issue for most ppl (imho), it's the board. And btw, if you really want good memory, imho you better get this: https://shop4.outpost.com/product/5162136
Far more reputable and after rebate costs less than what weldzilla is trying to sell here :D I have those sticks and with default cpu settings, I can run them at 1:2, the rest of time I have to 1:1, for whatever reason mobo can't handle other ratios, even tho I know I can run the memory up to 533mhz, 1066effective.

And weldzilla, are you saying you didn't mod the board in any way, and run it 400fsb and above at 1.65mch? That prolly won't work for most ppl, otherwise why are their so many volt-mods for this damn board? I'm not saying you are lying, I'm saying you are a minority.

When I read weldzilla post the MCH was at 1.55v and the vcore at 1.65v with fsb at 425.. I use less vcore volts with MCH at 1.65v to run 3.6Ghz. I can run FSB 420 on vcore 1.55 with MCH at 1.65 on air - temps are not to my liking so I dont. MCH at 1.65 should be good upto 420-430 - there are other references to that effect on this thread. In general its not the board - its whatever the quality of the cpu and memory you get. If not an early revision board I believe most volt mods are to cure the vdroop which on average is about .05v.. Me I didnt bother! I would like better memory than the sticks I have cos I got bought them thinking they had D9s but the rev I got had Promos - good for specified speed but not o/c. I am going to cure that by giving these a tryCellshock PC8000c4 http://www.legitreviews.com/article/464/1/ Unfortunately here in the UK we pay premium price so they better be good!

[anzial]

Hmm, I think these are the best deal right now from either one posted above: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231098
I like GSkill already :D Here it says these stick are D9GMH too ;) http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.pc-experience.de/wbb2/thread.php%3Fthreadid%3D22980&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DF2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ%2BD9GMH%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3Dnju%26sa%3DG

Sesdave - well, in my case my cpu takes only 1.4vcore to get to 3.6ghz but (now) 1.75v mch. It was fine before with 1.65v mch but now it's unstable. And I do have D9GMH memory, too... So you tell me, is it my memory, cpu or the mobo? Mobo is rev 1.04G, if that means anything

Further details: I ran memtest overnight at 1066mhz effective, 1:2 ratio at 266fsb, memory was at 2.1v, no errors, no lockups. My cpu ran Orthos @ 3825mhz with 1.525vcore, 1.75v mch for 5 hours, no errors but then something broke when I was messing around with screenshots and now it won't load windows at the same settings, and my 3.6ghz setting with 1.65v mch is no longer stable either, i have to bump mch to 1.75v to make it stable. There are reports of others who can't even reach 400fsb a page or 2 above in this thread. So I think if I get another board, based on 965 chipset, I'm pretty sure I won't have any problems hitting 4ghz or above with obvious heat issues but not the fsb ones :) The 975 chipset is limited, there's no way around it, just slight variations in mobo manufacturing allows fsb above 400fsb, but in general, most owners of unmodded 975 mobos are limited in fsb..

[X7007]

do you have problems with ATA Optical drivers with 2004beta bios ?

because i suddently cant burn cds with any of the IDE opticals drivers, and yesterday i burned a fine cd.

please try to burn cd and tell me.

[sesdave]

Hmm, I think these are the best deal right now from either one posted above: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231098
I like GSkill already :D Here it says these stick are D9GMH too ;) http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.pc-experience.de/wbb2/thread.php%3Fthreadid%3D22980&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DF2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ%2BD9GMH%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3Dnju%26sa%3DG

Sesdave - well, in my case my cpu takes only 1.4vcore to get to 3.6ghz but (now) 1.75v mch. It was fine before with 1.65v mch but now it's unstable. And I do have D9GMH memory, too... So you tell me, is it my memory, cpu or the mobo? Mobo is rev 1.04G, if that means anything

Further details: I ran memtest overnight at 1066mhz effective, 1:2 ratio at 266fsb, memory was at 2.1v, no errors, no lockups. My cpu ran Orthos @ 3825mhz with 1.525vcore, 1.75v mch for 5 hours, no errors but then something broke when I was messing around with screenshots and now it won't load windows at the same settings, and my 3.6ghz setting with 1.65v mch is no longer stable either, i have to bump mch to 1.75v to make it stable. There are reports of others who can't even reach 400fsb a page or 2 above in this thread. So I think if I get another board, based on 965 chipset, I'm pretty sure I won't have any problems hitting 4ghz or above with obvious heat issues but not the fsb ones :) The 975 chipset is limited, there's no way around it, just slight variations in mobo manufacturing allows fsb above 400fsb, but in general, most owners of unmodded 975 mobos are limited in fsb..

Nice CPU - I could do with the low volts as I am on air. This is a good read on e6600 adventures on the P5W and looks at 2:3 4:5 ratios for memory. http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=88306.
When you say something broke - any more detail? I have found from experience with o/c opterons when you cant put your finger on the cause it best to go back to scratch and rebuild from start. What BIOS you on - I have found 1707 has given me the most stable overclock. re memory - you get it cheap in the US of A. U may find this of use for reference re chips. http://ramlist.ath.cx/ddr2/ One thing to remember - no overclock is guaranteed! It was a lot harder to do before Conroes and it is still luck of the draw if you get a sweet CPU.

[anzial]

sesdave, of course it's not guaranteed, that's what I was trying to say all along. Weldzilla comes in and flaunts his overclocks as if it's a foregone conclusion (no offense, that's what it looks like to me :) ). You got to work to get it, you know :) I did lots to hit 400fsb - I installed watercooling, I did NB/SB cooling mod, w/o which the most I could do 367fsb.

Now, while my chip doesn't take much voltage, it does pump loads of heat - it's a B-series chip, after all :) I do have somewhat puny single heatercore with 2fans in push/pull config, and still the cpu heats up to 52-54 load @ 3.6ghz with room temp around 20-22C.

Well, "breaking" was a feeling I got when the comp started to reboot and freeze on me after that experimental run at 3825mhz. I did a 5 hours + run of orthos and at that point I started taking screenshots, manipulating them in windows paint, when computer crashed. Before that, I had no trouble loading windows at 425fsb (would not load at 430 and wouldn't boot at 435) with vcore 1.525, mch 1.75, mem 2.05. Now, with vcore 1.6, mch 1.85 and mem 2.2 it won't load windows @ 425fsb (still boots). Also, the previously rock-solid overclock at 400fsb won't stick, I had to change mch to 1.75 to make it stable again - with old setting of mch 1.65 it freezes or reboots. Vcore still 1.4, works fine.

I'm using 1602 bios and frankly, don't want to experiment with changing it. One reason is that I don't have a floppy (had to make unattended install with integrated raid drivers even) and another - what if the newer bios turns out worse for me and I can't go back?... if there was an easy way to switch between them... Any suggestions? If I really need it I guess I could snatch an external floppy...

My chips are definitely D9GMH, it's OCZ 8500, I even checked them physically, there's a bump in the middle :) I'm able to do 2:3 ratio below 400fsb but once with 400, it won't do anything above 1:1. Dunno why... I'll read that thread, see if something comes up.

[sniggle]

I'm using 1602 bios and frankly, don't want to experiment with changing it. One reason is that I don't have a floppy (had to make unattended install with integrated raid drivers even) and another - what if the newer bios turns out worse for me and I can't go back?... if there was an easy way to switch between them... Any suggestions? If I really need it I guess I could snatch an external floppy...


You could always boot off a USB flash drive, or flash from windows (but the flash drive is better). This utility (http://h18023.www1.hp.com/support/files/server/us/download/23839.html) can make your flash drive bootable.

[X7007]

Can someone please help me ?

my both burners in IDE doesnt burn anything now, Benq and pioneer.

they just start at 5% in nero or any other burning program and just trying reading and reading all over again until it stops on 5% and then it said burning failed, no matter what speed.

What is wrong ,, :\

I burned a cd before 2 days ago and it worked just fine.

It happens both in WinXP and Vista Ultimate 64bit and non oc or with oc.

please help,

thanks in advance.

[lawrywild]

Can someone please help me ?

my both burners in IDE doesnt burn anything now, Benq and pioneer.

they just start at 5% in nero or any other burning program and just trying reading and reading all over again until it stops on 5% and then it said burning failed, no matter what speed.

What is wrong ,, :\

I burned a cd before 2 days ago and it worked just fine.

It happens both in WinXP and Vista Ultimate 64bit and non oc or with oc.

please help,

thanks in advance.

Oh :banana::banana::banana::banana:, thanks for bringing this up, I been trying to burn DVD+R DL yesterday, tried twice (expensive discs) and both failed, didn't seem nero wanted to burn Layer 2 :mad:

Maybe it's the bios then... I did burn a CD with only a 2mb image just fine with 2004 bios though, but dvd+r dl is a no go :slap:

[sesdave]

sesdave, of course it's not guaranteed, that's what I was trying to say all along. Weldzilla comes in and flaunts his overclocks as if it's a foregone conclusion (no offense, that's what it looks like to me :) ). You got to work to get it, you know :) I did lots to hit 400fsb - I installed watercooling, I did NB/SB cooling mod, w/o which the most I could do 367fsb.

Now, while my chip doesn't take much voltage, it does pump loads of heat - it's a B-series chip, after all :) I do have somewhat puny single heatercore with 2fans in push/pull config, and still the cpu heats up to 52-54 load @ 3.6ghz with room temp around 20-22C.

Well, "breaking" was a feeling I got when the comp started to reboot and freeze on me after that experimental run at 3825mhz. I did a 5 hours + run of orthos and at that point I started taking screenshots, manipulating them in windows paint, when computer crashed. Before that, I had no trouble loading windows at 425fsb (would not load at 430 and wouldn't boot at 435) with vcore 1.525, mch 1.75, mem 2.05. Now, with vcore 1.6, mch 1.85 and mem 2.2 it won't load windows @ 425fsb (still boots). Also, the previously rock-solid overclock at 400fsb won't stick, I had to change mch to 1.75 to make it stable again - with old setting of mch 1.65 it freezes or reboots. Vcore still 1.4, works fine.

I'm using 1602 bios and frankly, don't want to experiment with changing it. One reason is that I don't have a floppy (had to make unattended install with integrated raid drivers even) and another - what if the newer bios turns out worse for me and I can't go back?... if there was an easy way to switch between them... Any suggestions? If I really need it I guess I could snatch an external floppy...

My chips are definitely D9GMH, it's OCZ 8500, I even checked them physically, there's a bump in the middle :) I'm able to do 2:3 ratio below 400fsb but once with 400, it won't do anything above 1:1. Dunno why... I'll read that thread, see if something comes up.

Flashing back to an older BIOS I can help with as I have just tried 2004 and gone back to 1707. Download AFUDOS 2.11. Get the BIOS version you want and rename it to P5WDH.ROM. Create Boot Floppy or USB Flash boot - create Boot flash with either HP one posted or this http://www.weethet.nl/english/hardware_bootfromusbstick.php#. Copy AFUSOS and BIOS to floppy or USB Flash. If you are using Flash USB configure BIOS to change the boot sequence so that the USB flash drive is boot before a hard drive, and also disable "Legacy Diskette A" on the BIOS Main pageBoot . Insert drive/floppy - Boot to DOS and run afudos /ip5wdh.rom
I have just remembered that I forgot to to disable all CPU configuration settings especially virtulisation when I flashed the BIOS to 2004 which might explain my spurios BSOD with that version and why I am getting them when I flashed back. I might give it another try as others are giving it good posts - might be worh checking you CPU settings. You wheted my appetite as I am getting RAM with more potential so I have been looking into the dividers - more info on 4:5 2:3 dividers from EVA2000 http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1681867&postcount=33 points to memory with trd=6 being the culprit. He also refers t MB/NB temps - I stuck a 40mm fan on my NB which I found helped a lot. Here some more which all poiunts to TRD=6 as the problem .http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-115729.html

[lawrywild]

Flashed back to 1901 and dvd+r dl burns are still failing WTF :mad:

[sesdave]

Lawrywild - you have played with this MB lots and are a good source of information. Have you got any pointers or information on running memory 4:5 or 2:3 with high FSB? From what I can see its limited by the TRD=6 setting.

[X7007]

Flashed back to 1901 and dvd+r dl burns are still failing WTF :mad:

Its still fails for me too !

what is the problem Please Someone :\\\

please i beg i dont know what to do.

i revert to 1901 using the EZ from the asus bios.

I cant burn anything.

Lawrywild ? did you try to burn CDR too ? do they fail too ? because they must, i only tried CDR and they failed, i dont want to waste DVD+R cds.

And i noticed when you restart the Opticals drivers do not close by themself, and i remember they did before flashing to 2004.

Does your Optical Drivers get closed when you restart your computer?

[lawrywild]

Lawrywild - you have played with this MB lots and are a good source of information. Have you got any pointers or information on running memory 4:5 or 2:3 with high FSB? From what I can see its limited by the TRD=6 setting.

All I know is 2:3 divider doesn't work above about 320 fsb for me, 4:5 I think is fine but since I can't run manual timings and I have a bad clocking cpu, I can't really help you.

[lawrywild]

Its still fails for me too !

what is the problem Please Someone :\\\

please i beg i dont know what to do.

i revert to 1901 using the EZ from the asus bios.

I cant burn anything.

Lawrywild ? did you try to burn CDR too ? do they fail too ? because they must, i only tried CDR and they failed, i dont want to waste DVD+R cds.

And i noticed when you restart the Opticals drivers do not close by themself, and i remember they did before flashing to 2004.

Does your Optical Drivers get closed when you restart your computer?

I will try CD-R, give me a few minutes.

edit: successful

[Timmaah]

What Ram are you using? I had a similar problem when I was using cheap MDT ram. With the Gskill and same bios I could run 400mhz+ and manually set the mem timings.

I'm using the Gskill "hz" ram... -.-

Got 2.05v in it in bios, and its 2.1v in windows.

[X7007]

How can i force update to lower version from 1901 to 1602?

it doesnt let me, nore EZ update or Afudos .

how can i downgrade from 1901 to 1602 and lower?

[X7007]

Someone please ?


Pff why did i update, everything worked well,

i am so so sad, no one can help

[sesdave]

Someone please ?


Pff why did i update, everything worked well,

i am so so sad, no one can help

I think I'm going to cry!

But dont worry help is at hand. Look at my post today on page 183 about reflashing to older version.

[X7007]

What i did is, Flashing from 2004 to 1901, then with Afudos 2.11 to 1707 then to 1602. After that - "clearing the Cmos" putting the battery out and the jumper from 1-2 to 2-3. after all that i started the comp entering bios set up everything, and now i will update to 1901 and i will do the clearing cmos again.

Yes - sesdave- I saw your post while i was googeling, and i followed that, though i just used the bios version and not the mb name, example 1707.rom, 1602.rom.

it wont burn a CDR..

[SaFrOuT]

i am waiting or a P5WDH + QX6700 + G.Skill HZ to arrive in few days

which bois is the best for me knowing that the system will run @ stock speeds with the ram @ DDR2-800 ?

[X7007]

i am waiting or a P5WDH + QX6700 + G.Skill HZ to arrive in few days

which bois is the best for me knowing that the system will run @ stock speeds with the ram @ DDR2-800 ?

you can use 1901, newest and the most stable, but you will need to update, just dont forget to clear the battery and jumper.

Maybe the beta bios was good and only was need is a cmos clearing, but i wont touch the beta ever again.

[Rob Halford]

i am waiting or a P5WDH + QX6700 + G.Skill HZ to arrive in few days

which bois is the best for me knowing that the system will run @ stock speeds with the ram @ DDR2-800 ?


Owning the same piece of equipment, my personal view is that BIOS 15.06 or 16.01 is the best. They are both stable and multiplier is open if you at a later stage decides to do some OC. There is nothing to gain installing a BIOS later than 16.01, at least not in my opinion, as these do not offer anything new, on the contrary. If you decide to go beyond 16.01, you might as well install 20.04.

Good luck to you.

[sesdave]

you can use 1901, newest and the most stable, but you will need to update, just dont forget to clear the battery and jumper.

Maybe the beta bios was good and only was need is a cmos clearing, but i wont touch the beta ever again.

personally I would recommend 1707 - its hard to find any bad post about it and subsequenet BIOS dont seem to have any significant changes. Still horses for courses - what works best for me may not be best for you!.
I am suprised you managed to reflash to lower BIOS without renaming BIOS to P5WDH.ROM. You just cant trust anything these days! On another note - you could try unistalling both the DVD drives in the Device Manager then once both are removed scan for new Hardware. It should redect the drives. Might solve your pronlem - might not but worth a try. It not a physical problem so it has to be windows.

[Neo07]

Hey folks. I've flashed my BIOS with 1901 however I have trouble cold booting into Windows XP Pro. The computer loads into Windows fine after a warm boot but It always fails on a cold boot. I have recently purchased a new SATA II Seagate harddrive which I run Windows from but I doubt it is the problem and also the S.M.A.R.T status for this drive doesn't state anything out of the ordinary. I've seen a thread about this on the Asus forums (clicky (http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&id=20070316082539389)) but there doesn't seem to be a solution. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

[sesdave]

This thread is for P5W DH problems and issues. You look like you have a P5B.
If you do have a P5W has the problem only hjappened since you went to 1901. If so try going to latest beta 2004 or go back to your previous BIOS.

[X7007]

personally I would recommend 1707 - its hard to find any bad post about it and subsequenet BIOS dont seem to have any significant changes. Still horses for courses - what works best for me may not be best for you!.
I am suprised you managed to reflash to lower BIOS without renaming BIOS to P5WDH.ROM. You just cant trust anything these days! On another note - you could try unistalling both the DVD drives in the Device Manager then once both are removed scan for new Hardware. It should redect the drives. Might solve your pronlem - might not but worth a try. It not a physical problem so it has to be windows.

i did try that, unistalling them, it happens in XP and vista.

i have no idea what is the direct link to this problem, i am so lost.. my all 2 days have became a nightmare.

[sesdave]

Check the IDE settings in the bios are okay - check IDE in hardware device in windows to see if its still set to UDMA - people have had problems with it reverting to PIO. The JMICRON seems problematic so I dont use it. If you still have problems try stripping down to a single DVD and your boot drive and start from there.

[bichi]

Test done for those reporting CD/DVD/DVD DL burn issues (BIOS 2004?)
- works fine for CD/DVD/DVD DL with Liteon LH-18A1P and LH-20A1H
- Nero CD/DVD v4.7.5.0 showing DL "Create" and "Bench" results
- CPUZID v1.39 showing P5WDH details
- link to detailed DL test results: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=1761010&postcount=319
- have heard rumors about PIO 112 latest FW and latest Nero having issues.....

INTEL IDE/SATA drivers installed:

Intel iata621_enu-6.2.1.1002
- 82801G Ultra ATA Storage Controller 8.2.0.1008
- 82801GR/GH SATA AHIC Conroller 6.2.1.1002
- Primary and Secondary driver; Microsoft 5.1.2600.2180
- both IDE channels in Ultra DMA 4 mode

[Timmaah]

I personally think the 2004 is a good bios... haven't been able to overclock this high with any of the other bioses.

[lawrywild]

bichi, did you actually burn a disc? or run the test?

What I realised was my discs have been failing when burning large files (6-8GB) and the ones which were successful a few days ago were lots of smaller files no larger than 1GB..

[GFORCE100]

bichi,

Allow me to ask, why are you running 10x300 instead of 9x333 to achieve 3GHz? Just disable EIST and you'll be able to run 9x333 just fine and if you do so and test in Everest, you'll see it helps your memory bandwidth and photoworxx benchmark considerably. At 333 run your memory at 266 for an effective 1066.

I'm at 3GHz too, would love to make it stick at 3.33GHz but I need to find a way to keep the heat down, maybe some magic cooler will come out soon :)

[sesdave]

what do you call heat? I idle at 48c load 59c with the arctic 7 cooler. I have lapped the CPu but didnt make much difference. I have never fancied water so I too am waiting for the magic cooler - maybe one from Cebit 2007. There were some very interesting HSFs from Akasa - closed loop liquid and OCZ -suck blow prototype on show there plus others from the major players. There may be hope!

[GFORCE100]

what do you call heat? I idle at 48c load 59c with the arctic 7 cooler. I have lapped the CPu but didnt make much difference. I have never fancied water so I too am waiting for the magic cooler - maybe one from Cebit 2007. There were some very interesting HSFs from Akasa - closed loop liquid and OCZ -suck blow prototype on show there plus others from the major players. There may be hope!

Right but I'm using a QX6700 which is double the heat production of a E6700. I'm using an Titan Amanda TEC cooler for the time being and have applied the vdroop pencil mod which allows me to run at 3GHz (9x333) at only 1.25V. This keeps my load temp (4x Prime95) at 54C and idle temps as low as 25C.

Since Asus hasn't fixed the cpu multiplier bug forcing even extreme cpu owners to use only 6-10 multipliers, I can't run it at 3.2GHz at 1066FSB hence have settled for the time being at 9x333.

All this in a coolermaster wavemaster case which aren't the best for air circulation. I have however used a Scythe 120mm fan bracket to install a 120mm suction fan on the front and a plastic tunnel to divert air over the cpu area.

[sesdave]

Nice! That must sort out the heat off the TEC which is the main reason I never went down that route. I still have my old Antec Sonata MK1 - not a lot of room but it does the job okay with a 120 fan input and output.

[lawrywild]

what do you call heat? I idle at 48c load 59c with the arctic 7 cooler. I have lapped the CPu but didnt make much difference. I have never fancied water so I too am waiting for the magic cooler - maybe one from Cebit 2007. There were some very interesting HSFs from Akasa - closed loop liquid and OCZ -suck blow prototype on show there plus others from the major players. There may be hope!

Coretemp temps? I load at those temps with stock volts and a bloody Noctua :eek: for 1.5v your temps are dam good for such a cheap cpu cooler :cool:

[sesdave]

Yes these are Coretemp and TAM temps. They do vary with the weather as my office is in a loft room. I thought mine were a bit high seeing all the other posts. You must have one hot CPU and it doesnt clock well - ever though of ebaying it and getting another. Overclockers have a this week only offer of £153. If not try lapping it - results vary depending on whether the IHS is concave, convex or just already flat which I think mine was close as damn it!. The Arctic is better than a lot of people think - I used its brother the 64 pro when I was o/c opterons and that was very good. I am trying out some other paste to see if it reduces temps - Thermalright Chill factor and Akasa 5022 as they both got write up saying the could drop AS5 temps. I have given up with the 5022 as it speads like glue based dough!Onto the Chill factorsoon as I can be bothered!.

[bichi]

lawrywild,

"...bichi, did you actually burn a disc? or run the test?
What I realised was my discs have been failing when burning large files (6-8GB) and the ones which were successful a few days ago were lots of smaller files no larger than 1GB..."

Nero CD/DVD Speed test suite burns a disk when starting with "Create disk."
"Create Disk"
- gives details about media MID, write speed selected by drive/FW, buffer, burn strategy, write time and CPU usage
- writes data to disk's full capacity (full 8gB, in this case, for DL)
- shows progress, physically, across disk and will show write problems if recalibration occurs (usually bad media)

"Disc Quality" (comparison shown below)
- loads of details about burn quality, ie., PIE/PIF errors and where they occur physically, jitter, etc.

"BenchMark"
- shows details of read-back, ie., read speed/time, read strategy, layer-break issues, and burst rate (good indicator of IDE channel problems)

Have been using this tool for past 4 years, along with other DVD geeks to compare burners, media and firmware with a common reference
There's MUCH more about this tool which comes with using it. Documentation is sparce, much like ASUS firmware details....
Maybe install the tool, do some test burns and post at CD Freaks?
Link to NERO CD/DVD Speed: http://www.cdspeed2000.com/
Link to CD Freaks: http://club.cdfreaks.com/ (Optical Drives Forum is most interesting. Register and you can see posted results)

First is the "Quality" scan of the DL test done in previous post

Second is a "Quality" scan of a Verbatim MCC004 SL +R x16, written at x18 speed, showing dye failure at edge of disk
- demonstrates amount of information needed to determine problem on a "marginal" burn

[sniggle]

bichi, what's that app you're using to add those screenshot buttons to the titlebar of any application?

[bichi]

GFORCE100,

"...Allow me to ask, why are you running 10x300 instead of 9x333 to achieve 3GHz? Just disable EIST and you'll be able to run 9x333 just fine and if you do so and test in Everest, you'll see it helps your memory bandwidth and photoworxx benchmark considerably. At 333 run your memory at 266 for an effective 1066..."

Have been pondering making change to x9 multi, but have work related stuff stacked up. I did try x9 multi months ago, about the time Vegas 7.0 and MatLab R2007beta were released. Quick tests showed "i frame" sync slippage and MatLab verification error probabilities were suspect. Reverted back to x10 multi, 300FSB. Will have to give it another try, especially with new Vegas 7.0d release and purchase of new OCZ DDR2-8800 (cheap, nowadays) Will have to rethink EIST power usage vs., performance increase... (machine can sit idle for hours and would prefer to save on energy/greenhouse load)

[bichi]

sniggle

"...bichi, what's that app you're using to add those screenshot buttons to the titlebar of any application?..."

eh? Screen shot buttons and titlebar?
- if its what I think you want, I set focus on target panel and do "Alt-PrintScreen," which clips only the target panel
- target panel clip can now be pasted into your graphics app (I used lightweight, Adobe Photoshop Elements)

[sesdave]

GFORCE100,

"...Allow me to ask, why are you running 10x300 instead of 9x333 to achieve 3GHz? Just disable EIST and you'll be able to run 9x333 just fine and if you do so and test in Everest, you'll see it helps your memory bandwidth and photoworxx benchmark considerably. At 333 run your memory at 266 for an effective 1066..."

Have been pondering making change to x9 multi, but have work related stuff stacked up. I did try x9 multi months ago, about the time Vegas 7.0 was released. Quick tests showed "i frame" sync slippage and reverted back to x10 multi, 300FSB. Will have to give it another try, especially with new Vegas 7.0d release and purchase of new OCZ DDR2-8800 (cheap, nowadays) Will have to rethink EIST power usage vs., performance increase... (machine can sit idle for hours and would prefer to save on energy/greenhouse load)

Not being cheeky- but you can always switch the machine off when you arent using it and get the best of both worlds!

[sniggle]

eh? Screen shot buttons and titlebar?
- if its what I think you want, I set focus on target panel and do "Alt-PrintScreen," which clips only the target panel
- target panel clip can now be pasted into your graphics app (I used lightweight, Adobe Photoshop Elements)

In the screenshots of your Nero CD-DVD program, there are disk and clipboard buttons next to the 3 standard titlebar buttons. I figured those did quick screenshot saving or copying to clipboard without going through the process you just mentioned. Perhaps those are specific to that application and only save the relevant analysis data.

[bichi]

In the screenshots of your Nero CD-DVD program, there are disk and clipboard buttons next to the 3 standard titlebar buttons. I figured those did quick screenshot saving or copying to clipboard without going through the process you just mentioned. Perhaps those are specific to that application and only save the relevant analysis data.

Ahhh, right! - part of the Nero app and is exactly what they do....

[bichi]

Not being cheeky- but you can always switch the machine off when you arent using it and get the best of both worlds!

yep - yer being "cheeky!" - LOL!
- its when a Matlab analysis or Vegas transcode is run and I'm off chasing old ladies at the patent library and not at the machine at completion time.....

[sesdave]

Fair dos - I can understand that. I just use mine for fun.!

[ryanyeo]

Does anyone got 1:1 ratio using Corsair 8500C5D? The best I got is 2:3. Anyone can help??



C2D E6600 L629B @ 2.75 (1.4v)
P5W-DH Deluxe (1909 Bios)
Corsair 8500C5D 4-4-4-12 2.2v

[sesdave]

What have you got FSB and memory set at currently in your BIOS. 1:1 to me for example is setting FSB to 400 and running memory at DDR800. Post your current BIOS settings vrcore , MCH etc- you are hardly o/c your CPU. Its same batch as mine and they can normally clock a lot higher.Whats the rest of your setup PSU etc?

[LivingL@rGe81]

Surely he means 3.75Ghz in his sig as 1.4V for 2.75Ghz for a 29b is very very poor!!!!

[sesdave]

I will be jealous if he is and on air!

[roger_h99.nor]

Does anyone happens to have the datasheet for the PLL on this board (ics 954123) ?

Thanks.

[ryanyeo]

Guys, below are my settings:
CPU Frequency: 306
DRAM Frequency: 912Mhz
Performance Mode: Standard
PCI Express Frequency: 100
PCI Clock Synchronization Mode: 33.33
Memory Voltage: 2.20V
CPU Vcore Voltage: 1.40V
FSB Termination: 1.4V
MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.55V
ICH Chipset Voltage: 1.20V
Timing: 4-4-4-12
Dram ECC Mode: Disabled
Hyper Path 3: Disabled
DRAM Throttling Threshold: Disabled

I would not like to overclock till extreme stage. My intention is to run my vCOre at around 3.00Ghz-3.20Ghz and memory at 900-1000Mhz. I tried many times, but failed to get to that stage. Anyone please help me.

[Flaming.Goat]

Quick question... I've got trouble getting the eSata to hot-swap. Anyone else had this problem? What's the solution??

It'd be nice if I could get my vantec nextar3 enclosure to work as it should :3

[BenchZowner]

Quick question... I've got trouble getting the eSata to hot-swap. Anyone else had this problem? What's the solution??

It'd be nice if I could get my vantec nextar3 enclosure to work as it should :3

Have you set the Jmicron JMB363 controller mode to AHCI in BIOS ?

[Flaming.Goat]

I havent... When i installed windows it was set to IDE mode.. and I cant boot the machine (gets some BSOD while windows logo is up) if I put it into AHCI (didnt want to reinstall windows unless it was necessary)...


Also, while I'm here, you guys get problems with the Firewire controllers ?
The first time I installed windows the firewire was going haywire... I'd boot and it'd detect the controller.... but install it like 40+ times, which in turn would lead to a BSOD (driver stack overload or something of sorts)

I discovered that to fix this problem, I had to disconnect the front firewire cable, boot the machine, delete all the extra controller drivers, and then close the machine, plug the wire back in again... and boot, and everything'd be happy.

Odd thing though, these things only happened after installing any kind of infrared driver in it (once it was the remote that came w/.. the other time was another program, but was still using the same reciever)..

Hope I'm making sence!

[BenchZowner]

I havent... When i installed windows it was set to IDE mode.. and I cant boot the machine (gets some BSOD while windows logo is up) if I put it into AHCI (didnt want to reinstall windows unless it was necessary)...


Also, while I'm here, you guys get problems with the Firewire controllers ?
The first time I installed windows the firewire was going haywire... I'd boot and it'd detect the controller.... but install it like 40+ times, which in turn would lead to a BSOD (driver stack overload or something of sorts)

I discovered that to fix this problem, I had to disconnect the front firewire cable, boot the machine, delete all the extra controller drivers, and then close the machine, plug the wire back in again... and boot, and everything'd be happy.

Odd thing though, these things only happened after installing any kind of infrared driver in it (once it was the remote that came w/.. the other time was another program, but was still using the same reciever)..

Hope I'm making sence!

Your boot drive ( the drive containing your windows installation ) is connected on the Jmicron controller ?

Where's your boot drive connected to ?
The Intel ICH7R ports ? ( SATA1/SATA3/SATA4 ) or on the Jmicron ( black SATA slot under the heatpipe next to the CPU socket ) ?

[Flaming.Goat]

All 3 of my hdd's are WD Caviar 320gb SATA. one's in the nextar, the other 2, including the one with my windows installation, are on the intel ICH7R ports...

So, first off let me apologize for a small oversight, I can put only the jmicron into AHCI mode (this wasnt the case before... I flashed my bios just a few days ago.)

Problem remains... the drive doesnt hotswap, and while having the jmicron in AHCI mode, I loose all the IDE controllers... Both my dvd burners (samsung 18x PATA, 1 hooked up to the ICH7R IDE controller, the other in the jmicron one) are non-operational.

[sesdave]

Guys, below are my settings:
CPU Frequency: 306
DRAM Frequency: 912Mhz
Performance Mode: Standard
PCI Express Frequency: 100
PCI Clock Synchronization Mode: 33.33
Memory Voltage: 2.20V
CPU Vcore Voltage: 1.40V
FSB Termination: 1.4V
MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.55V
ICH Chipset Voltage: 1.20V
Timing: 4-4-4-12
Dram ECC Mode: Disabled
Hyper Path 3: Disabled
DRAM Throttling Threshold: Disabled

I would not like to overclock till extreme stage. My intention is to run my vCOre at around 3.00Ghz-3.20Ghz and memory at 900-1000Mhz. I tried many times, but failed to get to that stage. Anyone please help me.

I take it you have checked the meory with memtest86 to check it is okay. Disable memory spead in Jumper free and virtulisastion in CPU configuration if you havent done so. Your CPU will easy do 3.0-3.2 probably on stock volts and your memory should certainly do 1000. Try FSB 333 and Memory at 999with looser timmings of 5,5,5,15. You can use memset to tighten once booted if it will let you. If it wont boot try it with SPD enabled. I posted a couple of references a few days ago to other posts about 4:5 and 2:3 memory settings. You can have problems with TRD=6 but normally only with high FSB.

[BenchZowner]

All 3 of my hdd's are WD Caviar 320gb SATA. one's in the nextar, the other 2, including the one with my windows installation, are on the intel ICH7R ports...

So, first off let me apologize for a small oversight, I can put only the jmicron into AHCI mode (this wasnt the case before... I flashed my bios just a few days ago.)

Problem remains... the drive doesnt hotswap, and while having the jmicron in AHCI mode, I loose all the IDE controllers... Both my dvd burners (samsung 18x PATA, 1 hooked up to the ICH7R IDE controller, the other in the jmicron one) are non-operational.

So, you're using the ICH7R for your 2 internally connected HDDs, and you've installed windows with the ICH7R Controller Mode set to "IDE" ( @ IDE Configuration @ BIOS main page ). Ok then ;)

And when you set ONLY the Jmicron ( under Onboard Devices ) controller mode to AHCI you lose BOTH ( ? ) Optical drives, even the one connected on the PATA Controlled by ICH7R ?
That's weird, and shouldn't happen at all.

Do the following:
Set Jmicron to IDE mode again, get into Windows, go to Device Manager, and uninstall the Jmicron controller.
Shutdown, and get into BIOS, and set the Jmicron to AHCI.
Boot into Windows, and install the Jmicron controller drivers again ( use the latest ones from Jmicron's website ).

Do you still lose the dvd-/+rw on the ICH7R ?

And last but not least, which BIOS version are you using ?

regards,
BZ

[ryanyeo]

I take it you have checked the meory with memtest86 to check it is okay. Disable memory spead in Jumper free and virtulisastion in CPU configuration if you havent done so. Your CPU will easy do 3.0-3.2 probably on stock volts and your memory should certainly do 1000. Try FSB 333 and Memory at 999with looser timmings of 5,5,5,15. You can use memset to tighten once booted if it will let you. If it wont boot try it with SPD enabled. I posted a couple of references a few days ago to other posts about 4:5 and 2:3 memory settings. You can have problems with TRD=6 but normally only with high FSB.

MY LATEST SETTING:
CPU Frequency: 333
DRAM Frequency: 1000Mhz
Performance Mode: Standard
PCI Express Frequency: 100
PCI Clock Synchronization Mode: 33.33
Memory Voltage: 2.20V
CPU Vcore Voltage: 1.40V
FSB Termination: AUTO
MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.55V
ICH Chipset Voltage: AUTO
Timing: 5-4-4-12

May I know which setting to disable the memory speed in Jumper Free configuration? By the way, I have got a ratio of 2:3 (CPUZ) from the above setting. How to tighten by using memtest to get 1:1 ratio? Anyone help please!!

[sesdave]

Sorry - I meant disable memory remap in chipset in the BIOs. Why do you want 1:1.? Your memory is rated to 1066Mhz without overclocking. Your current 2:3 it utilising the memory properly and giving greater bandwidth. To run 1:1 at your current speed you would set memory to 666. This will reduce memory bandwidth and seriously underutilise it - you may be able to run tighter timings but what a waste. Unless you are upping the FSB past 400 to run 1:1 you may as well have bought some cheap 5300 memory. What you should be doing with that CPU and memory is get the FSB higher and use either a 2:3 or 4:5 ratio to get the most out of what you have got. You will need higher vcore and MCH as you up the FSB and memory speed to maintain the stability of the o/c Check your stablity woth Orthos and Superpi. Refer to 1 post on the thread for detail if you get keen to try overclocking higher.

[Flaming.Goat]

Ok, BenchZowner, we're definately getting somewhere. Following your instructions, I've got the ODD running off the ICH IDE channel working again,, but this only happened after installing the jmicron driver... rather odd..

Furthermore, the ODD running off the jmicron IDE no longer works... to get the computer to even See the drive I have to go into device manager and tell it to scan for new hardware... drive gets detected... but works extremely unrelliably, lags the entire explorer especially in the mycomputer... and yeah, it uninstalls everytime I reboot! So for now no 2nd ODD.

The bright news however is that the vantec is hotswapping... There,s a 3sec. or so system freeze when powering it on, which I read somewhere else as Normal behaviour, the time that the SATA controller recognizes what's on the other end..

So if we can get that ODD to work now, it'd be really great... Cause yeah I could plug it as slave to the ICH IDE.. but the extra bandwith by using both controllers is phenominal, especially when I'm burning 2 DVD's simultaniously.

And, to answer your question, I updated the bios from version 13xx (forgot the number) to 1901.. As 1901 is the latest non-beta driver according to the asus website. :)

[BenchZowner]

As ODD things keep on happening, do the following magic trick, switch the DVD-/+RW drives ( swap the drives, take the DVD burner off the ICH7R & connect it to the Jmicron IDE, and take the DVD burner off the Jmicron and connect it to the ICH7R IDE )

awaiting your news :)

[Flaming.Goat]

As simplistic and might have worked kind of solution you proposed, it unfortunately didnt work.. Awaiting your next idea. I'm fresh out for now... Updated the drive's firmware but to no avail.

[ryanyeo]

Sorry - I meant disable memory remap in chipset in the BIOs. Why do you want 1:1.? Your memory is rated to 1066Mhz without overclocking. Your current 2:3 it utilising the memory properly and giving greater bandwidth. To run 1:1 at your current speed you would set memory to 666. This will reduce memory bandwidth and seriously underutilise it - you may be able to run tighter timings but what a waste. Unless you are upping the FSB past 400 to run 1:1 you may as well have bought some cheap 5300 memory. What you should be doing with that CPU and memory is get the FSB higher and use either a 2:3 or 4:5 ratio to get the most out of what you have got. You will need higher vcore and MCH as you up the FSB and memory speed to maintain the stability of the o/c Check your stablity woth Orthos and Superpi. Refer to 1 post on the thread for detail if you get keen to try overclocking higher.

Sorry to ask again. Could you let me know exactly which setting to disable memory remap in chipset?(for example: Jumper Free Configuration - FSB Termination: 1.40V) I'm kind of new in o/c, sorry for all the inconvenience. How can I tighten the timing again?

[Flaming.Goat]

My oh my don't I feel a bit silly... and alot more wise tonight!

As it turns out, running it in Basic mode was the key... the other key : the jmicron driver.

Seeing how I couldnt get the ODD to work, I took a stroll down the manual, many sites.. a few hours later anyways it struck me "hey, what if I put it back to basic and try with that new shiny driver?"

And guess what? It works, as advertised, now :)

Thanks for your helping hand, BenchZowner, you did put me on the right track in the end :)

[AHolland]

Hello Everyone,

Another new guy to the forums with similar questions to every other new guy.

Hopefully you guys can give me some pointers, although I think I have checked my system over pretty good.

I'm having a hard time overclocking my system. As you can see, I can only really hit 3.0 GHz. Beyond that things go south. Here is what I have done:

B2 stepping if it matters.
FSB voltage 1.4
MCH voltage 1.75
Mem voltage 2.2
ICH voltage 1.4??

I have tested the memory using the 3.0 GHz CPU setting and they hold to 900MHz. Fair enough for 800 MHZ memory. I have not tried higher yet, but at least I wanted to confirm my problem is not in the memory.

I have also tried the 1901 and 2004 bios's and can confirm that the 1707 allows for a little more CPU overclocking than those two. I can squeeze 3.15 but felt I should drop back a step for security. In the 1901-2004 bios's I can do a 333FSB but any higher and the system dies. With 1707 I can get a FSB of around 360 before things die. Just a word of strangeness in reversing the bios. When I renamed the 1707 bios P5WDH.ROM, it would not flash using small caps, but did flash using upper case script. Strange as there should be no diff. Anyhow, it can be done in case anyone is asking. I suspect the differences are in where the strapping is set.

So far my temperatures seem to be in the low 40's (C) while pushed so I don't think there is an issue there. I don't seem to be having any issues with my cd rom's or DVD rom/writers (I have 2 of them, LG and Pioneer). I did upgrade the firmware in both of them though. The Pioneer really needed it as it had poor writes on different media.

I see that a bunch of you have increased the CPU voltage to 1.5v. When did you have to bump the voltage that high? When you crossed the 333 boundary? It was scary how particular the system was back on the 1901-2004 bios's when I crossed from 333 to 335.

I would have thought I should be able to hit higher numbers than I am.

Also, one other note. I was over on the OCZ memory forum where the discussion came up on whether it was worth setting the memory above the 1:1 ratio. IE my system clocks to a FSB of 333 and that sets the memory at 667. I ran tests there and the same tests with increasing the memory to a speed of 800. The argument was that there would be no value to setting the memory at higher rates because the CPU could only process the data to a maximum of double the processor speed. In any case my 3Dmark scores on the first run was something like 6200 while the second run was closer to 6700. Enough of a difference that it was worth doing.

Comments?

[crazyea]

#1, unless you have a certain few types of ram that will do it, you must use SPD over 360 fsb or so.
#1a, having 4 sticks of memory will limit your overclock a bit.
#2, From my experience if you put too much voltage into you chipset things get a little flaky.

These are my settings for 3.2ghz, try them and then tweak as needed.

Jumper Free Page

Cpu 400fsb
DDR2 800
Perf Auto
PCIe Auto
PCI Auto

Mem 2.1 (Whatever you mem is rated at max)
Cpu 1.3875
Fsb 1.4
Mch 1.55
Ich Auto

Cpu Config Page

Modify Mulit Enable
Multi 8
Microcode Enabled
Max Cpuid Disabled
Execute Disbale Disabled
C1e Disabled
Thermal Control Auto
Virtualization Enabled
Speedstep Disabled

Chipset Page

SPD Enabled
Ecc Disabled
Hyperpath Disabled
Dram throttle Disabled

[anzial]

I dunno about MCH voltage, it's kinda weird for me... used to be fine with mch 1.65v @ 400fsb but after overclocking to 425fsb @ 1.75v mch for a few hours with a subsequent crash I need 1.75v mch to run 400fsb (425 no longer works :( )

AHolland, I'd suggest looking into NB/SB cooling mod, which involves taking off the stock heatsinks and replacing factory thermal compound (dry stuff) with AS5 or something like that. After doing that I was able to hit 400fsb successfully. More details in this thread http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=106563

[BulldogPO]

Anyone using Kentsfield with P5W DH?

[theteamaqua]

this board tops out around 4780fsb at 9x multi ... also 1.7v set in bios = 1.62v load is a bit low ...

[crazyea]

care to clarify? that fsb seems a bit steep. :-)

[sesdave]

Sorry to ask again. Could you let me know exactly which setting to disable memory remap in chipset?(for example: Jumper Free Configuration - FSB Termination: 1.40V) I'm kind of new in o/c, sorry for all the inconvenience. How can I tighten the timing again?

BIOS advanced/chpset/memory remap feature=disable. If you want to tighten timings you can go 1 of 2 ways - do it in the bios and see if it boots then run superpi to check followed by Orthos or use memset which will allow u to change settings in windows. Using memset you can test your settings without having to reboot each time although not cas setting - tends to crash the system!. Once proven you can change in the bios or setup memset to change on entering windows. Memset offers you more settings to play with than the BIOS but you need to know what you are doing. Tighter timings usually need more volts to stablise if you are o/c the memory - just watch you dont give it too much volts 2.2 -2.4v is max for most.Search what others have used for settings and o/c with your memory. Before you wander into unknown territory check first post on this thread - Read this guide http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/Core2Duo-Overclocking-Guide-v1-ftopict197995.html Get some AS5 and decent cooling and away you go.

[anzial]

...away you go.

Sending poor newb away already? :stick: :D

theteamaqua, we need more cow bell! :D Seriously what you are talking about? How to hell do you hit 478fsb? and is that vcore or mch volts you mentioned?

[sesdave]

Lol! he will have fun as he learns by trial and error!. You might find this memory arcticle interesting http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/print/core2duo-memory-guide.html.Looks like a suicide shot and vcore.

[AHolland]

Hi Crazyea,

I sort of wonder about the SPD idea. If you run via SPD, CPU-z just shows looser memory timings than suggested by OCZ. Yes, I may have to loosen the memory timings to get higher. Particularily by running two sets of memory. Otherwise, a person should be able to run the same settings manually as what SPD would give you. Does anyone know if the SPD settings affect any other memory items outside of timings?

I also noticed that some of you have moved from the 9x266 to 8x266 and then ramp up the FSB to 400 or whatever. Has anyone run any tests to see if a system is better off using the 8x multiplier and a faster FSB versus the 9x multiplier and lower FSB settings? Something I may try later. I did send a message to the lawyer person on the front page. On another forum I was told that there was no use having a memory setting higher than double the FSB, ie 333 FSB relates to 666 in memory. I did run some tests changing nothing but the memory speed from 666 up to the 900 my memory will support. The argument being that the CPU can only handle the double data rate and no higher. From my tests, the higher memory settings do indeed result in a faster computer tothe tune of 6%. 6300 versus 6700, if memory serves me right. I agree there should be no reason for this faster result, but ther it was.

I am pretty sick today so I won't get to trying out any of the things you guys suggested. I do have a fair bit of AS5 on hand, so I can try using it on the SB chipset. I already have it on the CPU and NB. Has anyone permanently removed the fancy covers over the NB/SB chipsets to see if that relates to any better cooling? It probagly does, but only to the tune of 1-2 degrees.

I'll get back at you guys in a day or two. Thanks.

[crazyea]

Having to use SPD is a limitation of the chipset not your memory.

[Barrman]

So I have had my board for a while, and was looking to push it further. First page of this thread says you can fit an nb-1c on this board and I have one laying around but cant for the life of me figure out how to go about mounting it. Could some post a pick if they have one installed or fix the thread if they cant be installed.


Thanks
Barrman

[sesdave]

Hi Crazyea,

I sort of wonder about the SPD idea. If you run via SPD, CPU-z just shows looser memory timings than suggested by OCZ. Yes, I may have to loosen the memory timings to get higher. Particularily by running two sets of memory. Otherwise, a person should be able to run the same settings manually as what SPD would give you. Does anyone know if the SPD settings affect any other memory items outside of timings?

I also noticed that some of you have moved from the 9x266 to 8x266 and then ramp up the FSB to 400 or whatever. Has anyone run any tests to see if a system is better off using the 8x multiplier and a faster FSB versus the 9x multiplier and lower FSB settings? Something I may try later. I did send a message to the lawyer person on the front page. On another forum I was told that there was no use having a memory setting higher than double the FSB, ie 333 FSB relates to 666 in memory. I did run some tests changing nothing but the memory speed from 666 up to the 900 my memory will support. The argument being that the CPU can only handle the double data rate and no higher. From my tests, the higher memory settings do indeed result in a faster computer tothe tune of 6%. 6300 versus 6700, if memory serves me right. I agree there should be no reason for this faster result, but ther it was.

I am pretty sick today so I won't get to trying out any of the things you guys suggested. I do have a fair bit of AS5 on hand, so I can try using it on the SB chipset. I already have it on the CPU and NB. Has anyone permanently removed the fancy covers over the NB/SB chipsets to see if that relates to any better cooling? It probagly does, but only to the tune of 1-2 degrees.

I'll get back at you guys in a day or two. Thanks.

Anzial posted the pictorial guide to the NB?SB mod a couple back and yes you do pull off the covers. I have done it and stuck a 40mm fan on the NB/SB - it should reduce more like 5-10c.

[sb85]

hiho :)

i'm looking for a bit of help maybe because i'm frustratingly stuck at 3954.22 MHz and cant seem to hit 4GHz :(

hopefully this can give most info: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=184077

(ram is actually 6400, is it showing 5300 because of the divider?)

adding more volts to the cpu and ram doesn't seem to make any difference at all.

timings are set to SPD.

chipset is 1.65 (max)

even putting up the fsb by 1, will result in a failed boot :*(


any ideas guys?

[theteamaqua]

haha lol i bought one of the 1st nbatches availible at newegg .. like June or May last year .. and it died about 1 month later ... and about 2 weeks ago i found the CPU cap .. so i was able to rma it... and now i got the 1.04G rev hahah what a wonderful story

anyhow how is 1.04G different than 1.03??

btw with TEC i cant seem to boot past 470fsb x 9 with 1.7v set in bios ... which i was able to do with P5N32E SLI PLUS and it was benchable actually

[sesdave]

hiho :)

i'm looking for a bit of help maybe because i'm frustratingly stuck at 3954.22 MHz and cant seem to hit 4GHz :(

hopefully this can give most info: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=184077

(ram is actually 6400, is it showing 5300 because of the divider?)

adding more volts to the cpu and ram doesn't seem to make any difference at all.

timings are set to SPD.

chipset is 1.65 (max)

.even putting up the fsb by 1, will result in a failed boot :*(


any ideas guys?

As its more than likely MCH volts holding you back on that revision of board you could try this pencil mod (and the rest if you needs them) to get more volts for MCH http://sg.vr-zone.com/?i=3876

[roger_h99.nor]

hiho :)

i'm looking for a bit of help maybe because i'm frustratingly stuck at 3954.22 MHz and cant seem to hit 4GHz :(

hopefully this can give most info: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=184077

(ram is actually 6400, is it showing 5300 because of the divider?)

adding more volts to the cpu and ram doesn't seem to make any difference at all.

timings are set to SPD.

chipset is 1.65 (max)

even putting up the fsb by 1, will result in a failed boot :*(


any ideas guys?

Have you tried different multipliers ? Mine clocks better at 9 and 10 then 11.
Beside that - you should realy try to find a board with mch 1,85.

[lawrywild]

Just ordered 4GB Ballistix 667 :eek: such a good deal on them just couldn't resist. Hopefully they'll clock good and boot manual timings - fingers crossed.

[775911]

2 x 2gb?

[lawrywild]

Nah, way too expensive for my range, 4x1GB runs well on this board from my experience anyway :)

[AHolland]

Hi Crazyea,

I'm basically responding to you because you were the first to respond to my inquiry. Thanks.

The point I was using regarding setting the SPD or not; The SPD is a chip onboard each memory stick that lists the factory default memory timing settings. Factories traditionally set the SPD more conservatively than what the memory will really do, or are rated for. The motherboard then has a nice safe starting point to go from. My argument is that the more intelligent users, like ourselves can ignore the SPD and manually alter the timing specs, something a lot of people do not want to do. If you have found that you need to run SPD to get to a faster setting, than that is because the SPD setting is making the memory timings looser which traditionally makes your machine slower but more stable. I have used the factory settings of 4-4-5-15, or lossened them to 5-5-5-15. The SPD settings are something like 6-6-6-18 (as per what CPU-Z gave me).

With my testing so far, I have found that the SPD settings in no way make my machine more stable. That does'nt make sense to me as the looser timings should make my machine more stable. All my testing seems to indicate that my memory is not my issue. The funny thing is that it does'nt seem to be the CPU either. Here's where it get weird.

I can run my memory up to 900MHz at timings of 4-4-5-15 as long as I don't use the 1:1 setting. If I do, the memory craps out at about the mid 700's. If I use a different divider than I can get much higher...yes weird.

I can also leave my memory at really low settings and run the CPU up higher than the current 333 FSB. What I can't do is run the processor above 3.0 GHz and the memory above 667 FSB. If it's not in the memory and not in the processor than what the heck can it be.

Another question for a few of you. I am using Orthos to pound the memory and CPU. I can set it to hit only the CPU, or the blend test. Can some of you point me to any software that may help me test my system better. I currently use Orthos (as said), Speedfan to watch temps and CPU-Z. What is the program that allows me to slowly raise the FSB while in windows?

I checked out the article on the pencil mod. I work in electronics and I still am unsure what they mean by the "pencil mod". I'm probably missing something obvious. In any event I doubt I would want to change out the resistors for different values, or installing a potentiometer for better accuracy. I can already get an MCH of 1.85 via the bios. I've ramped up most of my bios voltage settings and my system still seems really reluctant to play nice above the 333FSB level. Once I get past there, all reasonable expectations go out the window. A real pity when others are hitting so much higher. I've done all the AS5 on all the different SB/NB/CPU with no luck. It's always possible I have a dog of a cpu but I still would like to believe there is something I am missing.

[crazyea]

It is a known issue that to achieve higher fsb on the 975x chipset that in some case SPD must be enabled. I have a similar memory to you and this was the case for me.

Anyway, try two sticks of memory, this might be holding you back.

Also, have you tried the settings I listed in a previous post?

[nifty]

Hi all, thanks for a great thread - just finished reading it. Just one thing that interests me that I'm not quite clear on regarding bios's later than 1602 locking the extreme chips - are those later bios's limiting the upwards multiplier to 10X, or is it 11X? For instance, I am currently on bios 1707 ( with E6600), but hypothetically, if I got say a QX6700 or X6800, and I know that my board will run currently at 410 fsb, with either of those chips, can I run 10X410, or 11X410? Or is the upward multiplier completely locked so with 1707, I would be limited to 9X410?
Question 2 - is anyone here using a Lightspeed phase unit to chill their cpu on the P5WDH? If so, how is the fit of the clamshell to the board? Does it clear the capacitors ok? Or will I need to modify something?
Regarding the speculation by some of you about degradation of the cpu/mobo, I concur with that theory as well, as 6 months ago was stable @ 3.6Ghz & 1.6vcore, but now need 1.625 vcore for the same stability, so I guess I've slightly bbq'd the cpu with too much vcore, stresstest, & heat. When I say too much heat, the most I've taken it to is 75C coretemp with dual Prime 95, but on average, the stresstest runs up to high 60's , when it hits 70C now , I stop the test.

[sesdave]

Hi Crazyea,

I'm basically responding to you because you were the first to respond to my inquiry. Thanks.

The point I was using regarding setting the SPD or not; The SPD is a chip onboard each memory stick that lists the factory default memory timing settings. Factories traditionally set the SPD more conservatively than what the memory will really do, or are rated for. The motherboard then has a nice safe starting point to go from. My argument is that the more intelligent users, like ourselves can ignore the SPD and manually alter the timing specs, something a lot of people do not want to do. If you have found that you need to run SPD to get to a faster setting, than that is because the SPD setting is making the memory timings looser which traditionally makes your machine slower but more stable. I have used the factory settings of 4-4-5-15, or lossened them to 5-5-5-15. The SPD settings are something like 6-6-6-18 (as per what CPU-Z gave me).

With my testing so far, I have found that the SPD settings in no way make my machine more stable. That does'nt make sense to me as the looser timings should make my machine more stable. All my testing seems to indicate that my memory is not my issue. The funny thing is that it does'nt seem to be the CPU either. Here's where it get weird.

I can run my memory up to 900MHz at timings of 4-4-5-15 as long as I don't use the 1:1 setting. If I do, the memory craps out at about the mid 700's. If I use a different divider than I can get much higher...yes weird.

I can also leave my memory at really low settings and run the CPU up higher than the current 333 FSB. What I can't do is run the processor above 3.0 GHz and the memory above 667 FSB. If it's not in the memory and not in the processor than what the heck can it be.

Another question for a few of you. I am using Orthos to pound the memory and CPU. I can set it to hit only the CPU, or the blend test. Can some of you point me to any software that may help me test my system better. I currently use Orthos (as said), Speedfan to watch temps and CPU-Z. What is the program that allows me to slowly raise the FSB while in windows?

I checked out the article on the pencil mod. I work in electronics and I still am unsure what they mean by the "pencil mod". I'm probably missing something obvious. In any event I doubt I would want to change out the resistors for different values, or installing a potentiometer for better accuracy. I can already get an MCH of 1.85 via the bios. I've ramped up most of my bios voltage settings and my system still seems really reluctant to play nice above the 333FSB level. Once I get past there, all reasonable expectations go out the window. A real pity when others are hitting so much higher. I've done all the AS5 on all the different SB/NB/CPU with no luck. It's always possible I have a dog of a cpu but I still would like to believe there is something I am missing.

It harder to overclock with 4 sticks of memory - they put a greater load on the memory controller and the motherboard and that will limit the overclock moreso than 1 pair. Most advice has been given from people with 1 pair who like me assume it will work as well. Have you checked all the memory out stick by stick with memtest86. I would start with 1 pair and see how high you can take fsb 1:1 with memory. Also disable virtulisastion and memory remap - if you dont use it disable it!.i Dont forget to puit a 40mm fan on the NB - big difference! Pencil mod was for someone with an early revision of the board where it only has 1.65 on MCH. You could try clockgen for uping FSB in windows.

[Psitech]

Non Beta Bios 2004 was released today

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/P5WDH2004.zip

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/


The beta version of 2004 didn't work all that well for me, so I'm gonna let you guys try it out first before I jump on it. Please let us know your results and if there are any changes like more memory sub-timings.

[psy4fun]

Same here. With four memory sticks and SPD enabled, my machine keep crashing randomly. Also tried to boost vMCH and/or vMEM but no luck (now vMCH is configured as AUTO, vMEM as 2.1v and no problem whatsoever). But, unfortunately, this compromise my previous E6600@3.5GHz (9 x 390) and the best I can get now is 8 x 400 allowing me me to run my memory 1:1, which looks better for me. Also, tried to run the same four memory sticks as 3-3-3-10 but the machine even boot.

Alex

With my testing so far, I have found that the SPD settings in no way make my machine more stable. That does'nt make sense to me as the looser timings should make my machine more stable. All my testing seems to indicate that my memory is not my issue. The funny thing is that it does'nt seem to be the CPU either. Here's where it get weird.

[lawrywild]

Hi all, thanks for a great thread - just finished reading it. Just one thing that interests me that I'm not quite clear on regarding bios's later than 1602 locking the extreme chips - are those later bios's limiting the upwards multiplier to 10X, or is it 11X? For instance, I am currently on bios 1707 ( with E6600), but hypothetically, if I got say a QX6700 or X6800, and I know that my board will run currently at 410 fsb, with either of those chips, can I run 10X410, or 11X410? Or is the upward multiplier completely locked so with 1707, I would be limited to 9X410?
Question 2 - is anyone here using a Lightspeed phase unit to chill their cpu on the P5WDH? If so, how is the fit of the clamshell to the board? Does it clear the capacitors ok? Or will I need to modify something?
Regarding the speculation by some of you about degradation of the cpu/mobo, I concur with that theory as well, as 6 months ago was stable @ 3.6Ghz & 1.6vcore, but now need 1.625 vcore for the same stability, so I guess I've slightly bbq'd the cpu with too much vcore, stresstest, & heat. When I say too much heat, the most I've taken it to is 75C coretemp with dual Prime 95, but on average, the stresstest runs up to high 60's , when it hits 70C now , I stop the test.

X6700 would be unlocked between 6-10 and the X6800 would be unlocked between 6-11 but not higher than that unless 1601 bios or lower.

[miochza]

So did anyone check the non-beta 2004 bios yet? Or is it just the beta bios renamed?

[qu3x^]

So did anyone check the non-beta 2004 bios yet? Or is it just the beta bios renamed?

Its the finalized version of the BIOS. Didn-t tried it out yet

[lawrywild]

Pretty sure it's identical. 2004 was always only on ftp, now they have just updated the site to show 2004 but nothing new.

[Grendel66]

fc /b says "FC: no differences encountered". Same binary.

[lawrywild]

Thought so :)

[nifty]

Hi Lawry, thanks for clarifying that for me:)

[bichi]

AJC Diff v1.90 File Compare Tool

- beta2004.rom *Dated: 03/07/2007
- P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-2004.ROM *Dated: 03/07/2007

"no differences found"

[BenchZowner]

try comparing 1901 with 2004.
Changes:
version number change
other changes : none :D

typical asus

[MonkY]

Hello everyone. It's very nice to see such a great thread and so many good advices. Unfortunatelly for me, none of them helped. I have a P5W DH Deluxe, one of the early revisions (with max 1.65V mCH), and i have big big trouble with running memory even at 800Mhz. At first i've started with an E6600 which goes at 3.33Ghz 100% stable with 1.425V, and Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4 2048 MB DDR2 / 800 MHz / 4-4-4-12. Unfortunatelly, whatever i tried, those memory sticks couldn't go to anything else but 740Mhz in 4-4-4-12, even at 2.2V. I've tried with changing the ratio to the CPU, so i should be sure it's not the CPU's fault. The memory was a no go. Then, i started mounting some FAN's over the southbridge and northbridge, removed silly Asus paste with Arctic Silver 5, then tried again. No changes. Then, these days, i've decided to change the memory. I bought OCZ DDR2 PC2-8000 Titanium Alpha VX2, wich should go to 4-4-4-15 at 2.3V even in 1000Mhz. Well, with this RAM (2*1024), my sistem doesn't even boot at 920Mhz, everything else over 800Mhz just crashes instantly in Prime. So i am now sticked again to 370Mhz.

I don't know what else to do. I would like to go and change the motherboard, but unfortunatelly, i've done changes to the motherboard that ruins my warranty (those vents on chipsets).. Please, let me know what would be the next step i should do... or what would you do in my shoes. Thx in advance, and have a nice day !

[sesdave]

I have Corsair xms and have no ptoblems 1:1 at 400fsb but I do have later rev board. . Look at first post on this thread for settings advice - some people hit a wall at 370 FSB. Try boot with SPD settings and then use memset to tighen your timings. Disable anything your not using in the BIOS - memory should only need stock volts if you are not o/c it. I aslo recently posted a pencil mod if you want to up MCH volts. Make sure your CPU is getting enough juice - try it at 1.45. I need 1.5 for 400FSB and a lot of ther CPUs need more.

[AHolland]

Ho MonkY,

Your problem "feels" similar to mine in that certain settings that should work, do not. I can ramp up my memory to 900MHz from 800 and it's all stable. Then if I ramp up my CPU past 3.0 GHz, with any memory setting, including 667 MHz, it shows a memory error.

Perhaps someone more knowledgeable can help interpret what I am getting from ORTHOS. If I run just the CPU stress test, I can hit higher CPU values. My problem comes when I run the blended test. Under the blend test I can ramp up my memory past 900 as long as my cpu is at 3.0 GHz or less. As soon as I move the CPU FSB from 333 to say 340 it crashes and burns. Soemthing to the effect of "rounding error of 0.5, expecting error of 0.4", or something like that. I have tried a FSB of 350, 360, 370 just to see if anything would work at those levels. I'm retesting using a cpu voltage of 1.5 to see if that helps, but so far, no go. I'm going to also re-run the tests using "Crazyea"'s settings. Those settings are generally lower in most voltages to the chipsets. Everything is worth testing if other people are finding success with those settings.

From where I sit, the fact that the memory can be run quite a bit higher than what it is rated at, so it is not the memory causing my problem. Can anyone say with some confidence what my error shows? I could type it word for word if necessary, although I suspect my error type is fairly common.

Another quick question: What is a resonable temperature ceiling to use for the E6600. Someone somewhere suggested that the idle to full load temp diff should not be more than 26C....So in my case, my idle temp is 35C and my full load temp is 45C so my delta or difference is only 10C. I Could run as hot as 35 + 26 = 61C (gee mom, I did remember that math stuff after all). 61C sounds low from what I would expect. I would think something closer to 75C but I have not gone to the Intel web site to suck out the specification.

[lawrywild]

:eek: I got two kits of awesome ballistix it seems.. :D they do like 1000 4-4-3-4 with 2.3v easily but my dam chipset can't handle ddr2-1000 :( memtest will run without errors then just freeze due to bloody 975x...

At the moment I'm at 860mhz 4-4-4-4 2.00v 4x1GB, anyone got any tips for stabilising at ddr2-1000? I'm trying to get 333fsb 2:3 stable but mch 1.65v doesn't help from auto, nor does vfsb. God, just want to get a DFI 965 dark now.. :slobber:

[GFORCE100]

:eek: I got two kits of awesome ballistix it seems.. :D they do like 1000 4-4-3-4 with 2.3v easily but my dam chipset can't handle ddr2-1000 :( memtest will run without errors then just freeze due to bloody 975x...

At the moment I'm at 860mhz 4-4-4-4 2.00v 4x1GB, anyone got any tips for stabilising at ddr2-1000? I'm trying to get 333fsb 2:3 stable but mch 1.65v doesn't help from auto, nor does vfsb. God, just want to get a DFI 965 dark now.. :slobber:

Turn off HyperPath 3.

[lawrywild]

Turn off HyperPath 3.

Was that a joke? :stick:

[bichi]

Prompted by GFORCE100, tried x9 multi at FSB of 333, 330, etc.
- memory set at 1000, 1100 etc.
- XP SP2 booted successfully, but fails various memory and loading tests
- NB temp: 105f/40.5c MEM temp: 90.5f/32.5c, measured with Fluke Mini62 IR thermometer
- picture is of multi: x9, FSB: 333 attempt....

So it's back to multi: x10 @ 300 FSB, memory @ 1000/500, 3:5 for me

lawrywild,
- ever figure out what was causing your DL burn problem?

[GFORCE100]

Was that a joke? :stick:

No it's no joke. I've been running the Ballistix you have for months now at 1000MHz speeds at 4-4-4-4 now and you need HyperPath disabled if it's to be stable. I always keep it at 2.4V too. 4-4-3-4 will give you memtest errors sooner or later but 4-4-4-4 is stable.

[lawrywild]

No it's no joke. I've been running the Ballistix you have for months now at 1000MHz speeds at 4-4-4-4 now and you need HyperPath disabled if it's to be stable. I always keep it at 2.4V too. 4-4-3-4 will give you memtest errors sooner or later but 4-4-4-4 is stable.

Seen, but

FSB Wall at low fsb around 300 - Disable Hyperpath 3 in the Chipset section of the bios. [Credit - lawrywild]

haven't used Hyperpath 3 since the day I received this board.

@bichi:

Nope, and don't want to waste anymore discs... :nono:

edit: @ gforce again: do you have a fan over your sticks @ 2.40v? and what timing is your Write Latency Time at? 4-4-4-4-x

[GFORCE100]

Prompted by GFORCE100, tried x9 multi at FSB of 333, 330, etc.
- memory set at 1000, 1100 etc.
- XP SP2 booted successfully, but fails various memory and loading tests
- NB temp: 105f/40.5c MEM temp: 90.5f/32.5c, measured with Fluke Mini62 IR thermometer
- picture is of multi: x9, FSB: 333 attempt....

So it's back to multi: x10 @ 300 FSB, memory @ 1000/500, 3:5 for me

lawrywild,
- ever figure out what was causing your DL burn problem?

So you did turn off EIST didn't you? Did you give the northbridge 1.65V in the BIOS (not always necessary)?

[GFORCE100]

Seen, but

FSB Wall at low fsb around 300 - Disable Hyperpath 3 in the Chipset section of the bios. [Credit - lawrywild]

haven't used Hyperpath 3 since the day I received this board.

@bichi:

Nope, and don't want to waste anymore discs... :nono:

edit: @ gforce again: do you have a fan over your sticks @ 2.40v?

You may have not used it but if it's set to AUTO then that's your problem, it should be DISABLED.

[bichi]

GFORCE100,
- Duh! - EIST/C1E = off
- and just for that, Hyperpath = off too, (double DUH) - LOL!
- didn't try increasing NBvdc since summer is around the corner here...
- increase in memory performance was about 2%, so rather than risk heat, I'm opting for higher multi and slower FSB...
- was a bit of fun trying, though....

[AHolland]

Hi Bichi (thought it was Lawrywild but I was wrong),

What is that temp program you are running. It looks cool. I also noticed that it showed hard drive temps as well. I have a program called speedfan. It gives some good info, but not enough for my testing.

As a side note, does anyone know what acceptable HD temps are? I know that HD failures are closely linked to temps. My case (P180) allows me to separate my HD and MB from each other. I then run a fan through the hard drives (4 of them), and then through the power supply and out. I cannot make any changes to the power supply fan, but there is an inline fan that I can ramp up. I don't like to run allo my fans as fast as they can because I do some sound recording and you can hear the computer in the background if the fans are turned up. Basically I like quiet.

It's all a balance, fans, sound, temperatures etc.

[lawrywild]

You may have not used it but if it's set to AUTO then that's your problem, it should be DISABLED.

I guess what I'm trying to say is it is NOT hyperpath 3. Trust me on that. :rolleyes:

[lawrywild]

Hi Lawrywild,

What is that temp program you are running. It looks cool. I also noticed that it showed hard drive temps as well. I have a program called speedfan. It gives some good info, but not enough for my testing.

As a side note, does anyone know what acceptable HD temps are? I know that HD failures are closely linked to temps. My case (P180) allows me to separate my HD and MB from each other. I then run a fan through the hard drives (4 of them), and then through the power supply and out. I cannot make any changes to the power supply fan, but there is an inline fan that I can ramp up. I don't like to run allo my fans as fast as they can because I do some sound recording and you can hear the computer in the background if the fans are turned up. Basically I like quiet.

It's all a balance, fans, sound, temperatures etc.

Hi, did you actually mean me or Bichi?

Bichi is using Motherboard Monitor 5 if you meant him. If you did mean me, what image are you referring to?

[M3kk]

Today i wanted to try my E6700 in P5W DH , rev 1.04g, but after the power on i received the beeps : biiiip ( long ) pause bip-bip-bip.

The system booted up fine ( i see from the keyboard ), but no signal on monitor.

I tried with 3 kits of rams ( with a single dims too ), with 2 vga`s ( 8800gtx, 7900gt ), vga in another PCI-E slot, but nothing :(.

Now ~week when the board makes this "beeps", after i put one of 8000UL dims in the firs black ram slot, the system stared up fine, but now this method with single DIM doesnt helped me :(.

Any suggestions?

PS : Sorry for my english, i hope you will understand. :D

[bichi]

guess AHolland needs new glasses, after staring at his BIOS settings for hours - LOL!

Linkage to MBM and required Core plugin and setup instructions:
http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=74&highlight=motherboard+monitor

[lawrywild]

@M3kk: Have you got a POST code analyzer card?

[AHolland]

Yes, I finally got directed to MM5. Thanks Guys.

Yes you do g odizzy from going back and forth in the bios trying to figure out how a system can be perfectly stable at a FSB of 333 and then die at 335. I was expecting a bit of a transition between totally stable and quite unstable. I still think I've missed something, particularily because I am also getting low overclockability...3.0 Ghz. I tried ramping the vcore from stock to 1.55 with no apparent difference. I also have dropped some of the other voltages to see where they affect stability. So far they look like they will be close to stock. It all takes a lot of time.

[M3kk]

@M3kk: Have you got a POST code analyzer card?

No :(.

[anzial]

aholland, it might be possible that your cpu just can't oc beyond 3ghz :)

[jagt]

Today i wanted to try my E6700 in P5W DH , rev 1.04g, but after the power on i received the beeps : biiiip ( long ) pause bip-bip-bip.

The system booted up fine ( i see from the keyboard ), but no signal on monitor.

I tried with 3 kits of rams ( with a single dims too ), with 2 vga`s ( 8800gtx, 7900gt ), vga in another PCI-E slot, but nothing :(.

Now ~week when the board makes this "beeps", after i put one of 8000UL dims in the firs black ram slot, the system stared up fine, but now this method with single DIM doesnt helped me :(.

Any suggestions?

PS : Sorry for my english, i hope you will understand. :D

What bios are you running? I've been having similar problems since I flashed to 1901. For me, leaving the system with the PSU switched off over night usally fixes it. It's extremely annoying though!

Does anyone know where I can find the 170X bios? I can't see it on Asus' website.

Edit: Woops, sorry. I need to get some glasses, it seems :P

[M3kk]

2004

[jagt]

2004

Have you tried any earlier bioses? I'm gonna try going back to 1707 now, as the problem seemed to appear after I flashed to 1901.

[TR1GG3R]

maybe been asked before and i have searched and cant find it but how would i get a 1:1 divider for a overclock ? spec are as sig and i only wish to oc a little bit ive tried 300x8 and ram gets a 3:4 i think it was and then i tried 333x8 and got a different divider so how would i get a 1:1 with a 333x8 oc ? so take my 2.13 to a 2.6 thanks

[lawrywild]

1:1 divider will be DRAM Frequency = 2x FSB

So 667mhz if at 333fsb.

[TR1GG3R]

1:1 divider will be DRAM Frequency = 2x FSB

So 667mhz if at 333fsb.

thank you :woot: but now during boot up my ram says its 5300 not the usal 6400 so i take it i cant get a 1:1 with ram stayin at 6400 ? thanks

[LivingL@rGe81]

thank you :woot: but now during boot up my ram says its 5300 not the usal 6400 so i take it i cant get a 1:1 with ram stayin at 6400 ? thanks

Try using the 4:5 memory divider so where it says mem speed is 667 change it so it says 833 your memory should handle the little overclock no problem

[TR1GG3R]

yea that was the other divider i got b4 but i thought 1:1 was better thats why i was aiming for it

[lawrywild]

yea that was the other divider i got b4 but i thought 1:1 was better thats why i was aiming for it

lol, 1:1 means the DRAM frequency is twice the fsb. You can't have DDR2-800 with 1:1 unless using 400Mhz FSB. You need 4:5 at 333 FSB to hit 833 Mhz ram

[TR1GG3R]

:shrug: new to oc'n but yea thanks for the help will run it at the 4:5 :)

[icrunk]

hi, what is the best bios version to overclock an e6600 with?

[cuke2u]

Interesting....
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=33889730

I wonder if Asus will impliment it...
ChrisC

[sesdave]

hi, what is the best bios version to overclock an e6600 with?

Have you read any of the recent post on this thread? The latest BIOS is 2004 but depending on what you have and what setting u use its whatever works best for u with your setup as there does not appear to be a lot of difference from 1602-2004. Check the post for peoples different opinions and take your pick. Me - I like 1707 as its never caused me any issues and I get a good stable o.c.

[Grendel66]

Interesting....
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=33889730

I wonder if Asus will impliment it...
ChrisC
Will /probably be in the next BIOS update. Should be soon, G-0 (http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/31822/135/) stepping is on its way :)

[scaramonga]

hi, what is the best bios version to overclock an e6600 with?

NONE!!!...............there is no BEST BIOS!!!..............read this thread from start to finish :rolleyes:

[imgeorgelin]

Hi All,

I just installed the Win XP on my new P5W DH on a SATA HD connected to SATA 3 (Black). A really annoying thing is that everytime it boots up, a message showing:
"NO IDE Master HDD Detected" and I have to press F1 to continue.

Do anyone know how to fix this? I can boot up fine but it's just very nagging. I searched everywhere and couldn't find a solution. Probably plugging the drive to SATA 1(Red) will fix it but my HR-05 totally blocked it:(

Thanks!

[crazyea]

RTM, put the drive on the port indicated as boot in the manual. (Sata 1 = boot disk) page 2-34.

EDIT: you did answer your own question.

[david256]

Hi All,

I just installed the Win XP on my new P5W DH on a SATA HD connected to SATA 3 (Black). A really annoying thing is that everytime it boots up, a message showing:
"NO IDE Master HDD Detected" and I have to press F1 to continue.

Do anyone know how to fix this? I can boot up fine but it's just very nagging. I searched everywhere and couldn't find a solution. Probably plugging the drive to SATA 1(Red) will fix it but my HR-05 totally blocked it:(

Thanks!

In the bios under boot/boot configuration, disable the press F1 in case of error.

Hope this helps

[yenclas]

Hello !

I'm Spanish, sorry by my bad english.

Nowadays, I have a ASUS P5W DH Deluxe with 2Gb GSKILL PK's, but the problem is that this motheboard don't detect very well the timmings of this memory and I "only" can do 410*8 = 3280 Mhz.

I would like to do 430 or 435*8 and I think this Motheboard can do this because if I put the memory with a divider I hit this frequency without any problems.

Do you know what memories can do it without problems ?

Thank you very much

[imgeorgelin]

Thanks! I did know about this solution but it is said to suppress all the other might-be-useful alerts in case of an error too. But I guess I've got to do it if there's no better way.

In the bios under boot/boot configuration, disable the press F1 in case of error.

Hope this helps

[imgeorgelin]

On the side note, what the hell should be done to let drives be recognized as "2nd/3rd/4th" IDE MASTER? Any jumper setting will do? It seems that anything connected to the SATA 3/4 will be recognized as SLAVE (don't know about SATA 1, EZbackup and JMicron one)

[martinii]

Hi,

Can anyone send me a voltage.ini file from MBM and some screens from MBM voltage settings? My MBM shows sick +5V voltage and V-core. My mail: xxwolf@poczta.onet.pl

[cujo]

Hi All,

I just installed the Win XP on my new P5W DH on a SATA HD connected to SATA 3 (Black). A really annoying thing is that everytime it boots up, a message showing:
"NO IDE Master HDD Detected" and I have to press F1 to continue.

Do anyone know how to fix this? I can boot up fine but it's just very nagging. I searched everywhere and couldn't find a solution. Probably plugging the drive to SATA 1(Red) will fix it but my HR-05 totally blocked it:(

Thanks!

i have the same problem. i have my raid 0 raptors connected to the ez raid ports. my other 2 devices are in the black ports. whether i change them around or not about 80% of the time my system boots i get this message. if i hit f1 to continue it goes nowhere cause this only happens when it doesn't properly detect 4th ide master. 4 ide master is of course the raid 0 drive. i just hit reset until it sees it and then it loads windows no sweat. i basically can't oc right now cause it's too much of a pain in the ass when 80% of my boot ups error and require an additional reboot anyway.

[TR1GG3R]

anybody else havin problems with the official 2004 bios ? i cant seem to overclock no more says something about winload in the system32 (vista business) folder has a miss match checksum but if i revert back to bios/defaults it works no problems i even tryed going back to the beta 2004 but still the same any suggestions ?

[Falkentyne]

Hi All,

I just installed the Win XP on my new P5W DH on a SATA HD connected to SATA 3 (Black). A really annoying thing is that everytime it boots up, a message showing:
"NO IDE Master HDD Detected" and I have to press F1 to continue.

Do anyone know how to fix this? I can boot up fine but it's just very nagging. I searched everywhere and couldn't find a solution. Probably plugging the drive to SATA 1(Red) will fix it but my HR-05 totally blocked it:(

Thanks!

I had that problem on a second p5wdh, where it didn't occur on the first.
Same bios used on both. I fixed it by using the -other- black SATA port. Aren't there three black ports? (I'm almost sure there were). Or maybe that one I used is the red one? its the one just to the "north" of the othr two. I don't remember.

What's a HR-05?

[jagt]

Does anyone know how this board performs with 4x1GB? RAM is so cheap now that it's hard to resist not upgrading to 4GB. Found some very cheap Ballistix that will match my existing Corsair D9 nicely.

[ketma]

4x1GB works fine, as noted in my sig I'm running with G.skill.

Cheers.

[calfcramp!!!]

I have been having this problem.It just started all of sudden and it happens with all the bios's.Everytime I set a setting like 375 fsb with a 6600 and save on exit of the bios it will not repost at all.I hold the power button and then turn it back on and it is back to default with the overclocking f1 setup again.If I keep trying it again and again it finally reposts with the correct overclocked settings.I have tried it all the way up to 400 fsb.Anybody have these problems?

Craig

[imgeorgelin]

Do you mean the JMicron one? This is the next thing I'll try but I have two concern for using it:
1. Def. not good for cable management;
2. I remember reading somewhere it doesn't work for OSX86

HR-05 is a MASSIVE southbridge cooler.


Now I have another question, is it even possible to boot up from a SATA DVD-ROM with p5w?

I had that problem on a second p5wdh, where it didn't occur on the first.
Same bios used on both. I fixed it by using the -other- black SATA port. Aren't there three black ports? (I'm almost sure there were). Or maybe that one I used is the red one? its the one just to the "north" of the othr two. I don't remember.

What's a HR-05?

[cujo]

Do you mean the JMicron one? This is the next thing I'll try but I have two concern for using it:
1. Def. not good for cable management;
2. I remember reading somewhere it doesn't work for OSX86

HR-05 is a MASSIVE southbridge cooler.


Now I have another question, is it even possible to boot up from a SATA DVD-ROM with p5w?

i also don't like it for cable management but also for drivers. why have something extra enabled when you shouldn't need it?

i booted fine with my pioneer sata drive to install vista. my only issue i have is my raid drive only recognizes on post about 20% of the time i boot the system.

[TR1GG3R]

just droped back down to 1901 and still have the same problem i cant oc and this is on a clean instal of vista as i reformated :( some 1 has to have some ideas ? thanks

[experttech2007]

Hello all! Thanks for all the info in this thread. I have a Asus P5W Deluxe Wifi and OCZ Platinum R2 RAm with 4-4-4-15 timings. I am running my E6600 at 400x8 = 3.2 Ghz which is about as stable I cant get.

My problem is, I have to set the memory to SPD or the machine wont boot. With SPD my memory runs at 5-6-6-18 (see pic). I used memset to change it to 5-5-5-15, which is reflected in the SPD in CPUZ (see pic) but I dont understand why the memory speed keeps switchign back to 5-6-6-18. Any ideas how I could resolve this? And any way I can get this running at 4-4-4-15?

http://maldivz.biz/uploads/2ab85b7179.gif
Thanks!

[nerve007]

Does anyone know how this board performs with 4x1GB? RAM is so cheap now that it's hard to resist not upgrading to 4GB. Found some very cheap Ballistix that will match my existing Corsair D9 nicely.
I'm running the XMS Corsair 6400c4, and even with voltage bumped and timings relaxed my stable overclock was definitely reduced. Used to be stable at 3.5 ghz, now 3.3 is as good as it gets. I also (like a poster below) can't get any at all above 800 mhz, again even with relaxed timings.

I have an early version of the board... I'm beginning to think the version with the higher MCH voltage would make a difference. :-(

I think I'm going to put my XMS2 sticks on ebay and try to find a reasonable 2x2gb kit.

My raid setup is also flaky. Hmmm... maybe I should ebay the whole thing. Grrrr.

[sesdave]

Hello all! Thanks for all the info in this thread. I have a Asus P5W Deluxe Wifi and OCZ Platinum R2 RAm with 4-4-4-15 timings. I am running my E6600 at 400x8 = 3.2 Ghz which is about as stable I cant get.

My problem is, I have to set the memory to SPD or the machine wont boot. With SPD my memory runs at 5-6-6-18 (see pic). I used memset to change it to 5-5-5-15, which is reflected in the SPD in CPUZ (see pic) but I dont understand why the memory speed keeps switchign back to 5-6-6-18. Any ideas how I could resolve this? And any way I can get this running at 4-4-4-15?


Thanks!

a little more info like all your bios settings for memory,vdimm, vcore,MCH etc would be useful . Which batch e6600- what PSU - have you done NB/SB with AS5 replacement. I take it you save memset to apply settings at windows boot. Read the first post and disable anything in BIOS that you arent using e.g Vitulisation, memory remap etc.

[experttech2007]

a little more info like all your bios settings for memory,vdimm, vcore,MCH etc would be useful . Which batch e6600- what PSU - have you done NB/SB with AS5 replacement. I take it you save memset to apply settings at windows boot. Read the first post and disable anything in BIOS that you arent using e.g Vitulisation, memory remap etc.

Here are my voltages:

MEM: 2.0
CPU: 1.3875
FSB: 1.4
MCH: 1.55
ICH: Auto

With these settings its rock stable at 400x8

With memset I dont do a Save, i do an apply which reflects it in the SPD in CPUZ. I'll try doing the save but SPD is thru BIOS so I dont understand how a Save would help.

Memset doesnt allow me to set it at 4-4-4-15 though.

Which batch e6600- what PSU - have you done NB/SB with AS5 replacement.

CPU: E6600 2.4 Ghz
Batch: L701C326 (Packed 3/20/2007) Made in Malaysia
OC: 3,200 Mhz (400x8)
VCore: 1.3875

Can you shed some more info on the N/B/SB with AS5? I dont know what that is.

PSU is a Fsp Group FX 700-GLN 700W

[crazyea]

If you look at the first page of this thread you will see that in some cases SPD must be enabled at high fsb.

I have the exact same memory as you, used the same settings as you, and my timings were set the same as yours. The chipset is to blame. Not the memory. The only way to avoid this issue is different memory.

[experttech2007]

If you look at the first page of this thread you will see that in some cases SPD must be enabled at high fsb.

I have the exact same memory as you, used the same settings as you, and my timings were set the same as yours. The chipset is to blame. Not the memory. The only way to avoid this issue is different memory.

yeah the FSB has to be set to Auto or it wont boot. I think a BIOS update might help resolve this problem? There may be so many users who use the OCZ Platinum R2 with this chipset. It used to work like a charm on my M2N SLI Deluxe mobo.

[jagt]

I'm running the XMS Corsair 6400c4, and even with voltage bumped and timings relaxed my stable overclock was definitely reduced. Used to be stable at 3.5 ghz, now 3.3 is as good as it gets. I also (like a poster below) can't get any at all above 800 mhz, again even with relaxed timings.

I have an early version of the board... I'm beginning to think the version with the higher MCH voltage would make a difference. :-(

I think I'm going to put my XMS2 sticks on ebay and try to find a reasonable 2x2gb kit.

My raid setup is also flaky. Hmmm... maybe I should ebay the whole thing. Grrrr.

What revision are your sticks, and what IC's are on them?

[Donni]

Hello all! Thanks for all the info in this thread. I have a Asus P5W Deluxe Wifi and OCZ Platinum R2 RAm with 4-4-4-15 timings. I am running my E6600 at 400x8 = 3.2 Ghz which is about as stable I cant get.

My problem is, I have to set the memory to SPD or the machine wont boot. With SPD my memory runs at 5-6-6-18 (see pic). I used memset to change it to 5-5-5-15, which is reflected in the SPD in CPUZ (see pic) but I dont understand why the memory speed keeps switchign back to 5-6-6-18. Any ideas how I could resolve this? And any way I can get this running at 4-4-4-15?

http://maldivz.biz/uploads/2ab85b7179.gif
Thanks!

Hi

I have the same Problem , with my P5WDH and OCZ Flex CL3 ?
And any way I can get this running at 3-4-4-15?

Why not ?

Thx

[yenclas]

Hello !

I'm spanish, sorry by my bad English.

In this forum all the people has having problems with this motheboard and different memory.

I have GSKILL 2*1Gb HZ and my max FSB Stable is 415 where this memory can do very high better overclock.

I see that if we change the tRFC/tRD settings in memset this problem is solved, but it is in windows.

Many people is talking about a bios with the possibility of change this timmings in bios, but at the moment there isn't any bios with it.

Any info if Asus finally release this functionality in bios ?

Why not email we to asus talking about this issue ?

Thank you very much

[psy4fun]

Please, read the whole thread and stop posting the same thing ever and ever and ever...


Hello !

I'm spanish, sorry by my bad English.

In this forum all the people has having problems with this motheboard and different memory.

I have GSKILL 2*1Gb HZ and my max FSB Stable is 415 where this memory can do very high better overclock.

I see that if we change the tRFC/tRD settings in memset this problem is solved, but it is in windows.

Many people is talking about a bios with the possibility of change this timmings in bios, but at the moment there isn't any bios with it.

Any info if Asus finally release this functionality in bios ?

Why not email we to asus talking about this issue ?

Thank you very much

[Psitech]

Has Asus totally given up on bios development for this board?

[nerve007]

Thanks for the question... I've got one pair of the 1.2 rev and one of the 2.1 rev. That alone is probably not ideal... my overclocks with either pair alone are about the same.

Can you tell which chips without taking off the spreaders?

-Bob

[sesdave]

There is a big difference between them - rev 1.2 have microns D9s and the 2.1 have promos which dont o/c much at all! Here the ramlist to check
http://ramlist.ath.cx/ddr2/ and heres a review of the early revisions performance capabilities. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/ddr2-800_2.html
I know cos I bought a pair thinking I was getting great memory and ended up with the 2.1's.

[Chiboy04]

can I install OS on my silcon image controller, using raid 0 setup?
hardware: asus p5w dh deluxe, 2 X 80GB seagate sataII

[Chiboy04]

anyone? need your help....

[yobi]

ICH7 is faster !
The Silicon Image 4723 is a real hardware RAID controller. I takes one of the four ICH7 SATA ports and lets you connect 2 HDDs to it which can be run in hardware RAID0 or RAID1.

The Silicon Image 4723 is the reason you only get 3 ICH7 ports since the 4th port is hard-wired to Sil =)

I succesfully ran RAID1 and RAID0 on this controller with a recent -mm kernel. While the RAID worked just fine, it was very slow. I ran some tests and was dearly disapointed. If you want to run a RAID0 or RAID1 use Linux SoftwareRaid but stay away from EZ-BAckup!.

If you remove both EZ jumpers you can use the right EZ-Backup port as the 4th ICH7 port.

[Chiboy04]

tnx man... currently using those controller, the only vacant is the silicon cantroller... maybe i will the ICH7 for my os and the silicon for my back-up... tnx.

[experttech2007]

The Silicon Image 4723 is the reason you only get 3 ICH7 ports since the 4th port is hard-wired to Sil =)


Nice post! I think its also possible to use the 4th ICH7R port by disabling both the EZ Backup jumpers. Didnt try it though, but that should give equivalent performance to using a ICHR7 port (just like the other 3).

[Gig4moller]

Anyone know why my P5W refuses to boot at 8x multiplier? :| It can run 9x400 fine, but whenever I try 8x400, even just 8x266, it won't boot. I'm using 1707 bios. Everything like c1e and eist, etc is disabled.

[experttech2007]

Anyone know why my P5W refuses to boot at 8x multiplier? :| It can run 9x400 fine, but whenever I try 8x400, even just 8x266, it won't boot. I'm using 1707 bios. Everything like c1e and eist, etc is disabled.

RAM set to SPD?

In my case 9x400 wont work but 8x400 is stable.

[semiskilled]

Iam gona replace my noctura to this one as soon as its avaible here in sweden =) http://www.anandtech.com/casecooling/showdoc.aspx?i=2981&p=1

[Gig4moller]

RAM set to SPD?

In my case 9x400 wont work but 8x400 is stable.

Yeah mems are SPD Enabled in bios. This is really weird :|

[brock01]

happends to me as well Gig4moller

[nerve007]

There is a big difference between them - rev 1.2 have microns D9s and the 2.1 have promos which dont o/c much at all! Here the ramlist to check
http://ramlist.ath.cx/ddr2/ and heres a review of the early revisions performance capabilities. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/ddr2-800_2.html
I know cos I bought a pair thinking I was getting great memory and ended up with the 2.1's.

Thanks, that's great info. I think I'm going to go for a 2x2gb setup at this point.
Any interested in either 1.2 or 2.1 1GB sticks?

-Bob

[Chiboy04]

Anyone sucessfully running crossfire with this board? I might pull the trigger this weekend but have not seen anyone saying they run crossfire.

yes, they can run crossfire im using crossfire X1950 Pro 256MB.... the only problem is that some game work faster on single card, even with tha latest Ati driver.

[experttech2007]

yes, they can run crossfire im using crossfire X1950 Pro 256MB.... the only problem is that some game work faster on single card, even with tha latest Ati driver.

Now that sucks..I was planning to get two 1900XTs

[renozi]

lawrywild, can you put Thermalright Ultra 120 eXtreme in the recommended coolers? thanks :)

[crazyea]

lawrywild there is an updated drivers thread....

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20070319004301717&board_id=1&model=P5W+DH+Deluxe&page=1&SLanguage=en-us

[lawrywild]

lawrywild, can you put Thermalright Ultra 120 eXtreme in the recommended coolers? thanks :)

Done and also did IFX-14 for the future.

[lawrywild]

lawrywild there is an updated drivers thread....

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20070319004301717&board_id=1&model=P5W+DH+Deluxe&page=1&SLanguage=en-us

Ya I know but it's not regularly updated. It's just a cache of the old thread.

[yoman]

Hy all.
As u can see im new on the forum and this is my 1st post.
I have a little problem OC'in my SuperTalent mem on P5W.
I have E6600, Asus P5w DH delux, x800xl, Fortron Blue Storm 500W......
And Super Talent 800Mhz CL4 Overclock T800UX2GC4 (i think its D9GMH on it).
Sorry on my crapy english.
I have a problem on every Vdimm over 2.2.
I set 800Mhz 4-4-3-8 2.2V and can pass 6h of MEM test, and if i set the same setting on 2.3V, 2.4V i get like thousand errors in 5 min......
Even if i set 533 4-4-3-8 cant pass test if Vdimm is over 2.2V.

What is the problem? MBO and CPU are brand new, memory is 4 months old.
I read about D9xxx chips get damaged very easily, but there says that than ram dont wanna work on low Vdimm.....

Any clue?

[nicepun]

Hy all.
As u can see im new on the forum and this is my 1st post.
I have a little problem OC'in my SuperTalent mem on P5W.
I have E6600, Asus P5w DH delux, x800xl, Fortron Blue Storm 500W......
And Super Talent 800Mhz CL4 Overclock T800UX2GC4 (i think its D9GMH on it).
Sorry on my crapy english.
I have a problem on every Vdimm over 2.2.
I set 800Mhz 4-4-3-8 2.2V and can pass 6h of MEM test, and if i set the same setting on 2.3V, 2.4V i get like thousand errors in 5 min......
Even if i set 533 4-4-3-8 cant pass test if Vdimm is over 2.2V.

What is the problem? MBO and CPU are brand new, memory is 4 months old.
I read about D9xxx chips get damaged very easily, but there says that than ram dont wanna work on low Vdimm.....

Any clue?

Are these the ones with Blue Heatspreaders? If so, do not expect too much after 800Mhz, I tested them a while back and had to return them because they OC horribly and before anyone says anything (you can't return an item because it doesn't OC to your expectations) I took the 15% restocking fee.

[clee]

I tried bios 1901 and actually got a little unevered it was so horrible with my set up. So before I freaked out and moved back to 1707 I decided to move up to the new 2004 beta bios. For me this is the BEST bios yet!
I booted easily at 438fsb to run some pi. This is the highest I have ever booted, let alone run anything
Give this bios a try......

WZ

Thanks for heads up. I flashed to 2004 from 1707 after I read your post last mo. It's been running for a few weeks now flawlessly at higher speed. I concur with you that it's the best BIOS yet from Asus.

[cbell]

I just decided to set up my harddrives in a RAID 0 array on my P5W DH Deluxe and I'm currently reinstalling Windows XP Pro on it. I set everything up according to all the info I was able to find on this site. I enabled RAID in the BIOS, created the array, then used the F6 utility to install the ICH7 drivers. It was working fine, but after the partition was formatted and the files were being copied off of the CD, I get an error saying that "Setup cannot copy the file iaStor.sys". I can't get past this part without skipping the file, and I don't want to do that because I know it's an important file. I tried swapping the CD out for another Windows Cd, but no luck. Anyone know what I might have done wrong?

[MnM]

I just decided to set up my harddrives in a RAID 0 array on my P5W DH Deluxe and I'm currently reinstalling Windows XP Pro on it. I set everything up according to all the info I was able to find on this site. I enabled RAID in the BIOS, created the array, then used the F6 utility to install the ICH7 drivers. It was working fine, but after the partition was formatted and the files were being copied off of the CD, I get an error saying that "Setup cannot copy the file iaStor.sys". I can't get past this part without skipping the file, and I don't want to do that because I know it's an important file. I tried swapping the CD out for another Windows Cd, but no luck. Anyone know what I might have done wrong?


Yes - you removed the floppy disk from the floppy drive. Start again and leave the floppy disk in the drive until the FIRST reboot during WinXP install. Once the reboot process started you can remove the floppy disk from the floppy drive.

[cbell]

Actually, the floppy disk is still in the drive. I'm still sitting at the error screen right now. It's trying to find the file on the CD... what do I make it do to look for it on the floppy?

[MnM]

Actually, the floppy disk is still in the drive. I'm still sitting at the error screen right now. It's trying to find the file on the CD... what do I make it do to look for it on the floppy?


Hmm you dont it seek the file on floppy Windows Installer looks for it on the floppy by itself.
I suggest you start again. Press F6, later when asked press S to specify additional devices, select correct driver and let the install start. This time DO NOT remove the floppy from the drive until the install finishes - maybe it need to copy the files after the first reboot, I am not 100% when as is been a while since I reinstalled mine. So leave the floppy there and see what happens.

[hyperdoggy]

Just wonder has anyone has issues running Crucial memory on this mobo. I been running a pair of Ballistix @400 3-3-3-12 2.2v and twice the ram started to go bad and won't even boot up at its rated speed. Its been about 6 month and i have two RMA since then.

[cbell]

Hmm you dont it seek the file on floppy Windows Installer looks for it on the floppy by itself.
I suggest you start again. Press F6, later when asked press S to specify additional devices, select correct driver and let the install start. This time DO NOT remove the floppy from the drive until the install finishes - maybe it need to copy the files after the first reboot, I am not 100% when as is been a while since I reinstalled mine. So leave the floppy there and see what happens.

Well, I tried running the installation again, and it once again can't find any of the iaStor files. I didn't remove the floppy from the drive at all. When I press "S", I choose the 82801 GB/GR (Desktop ICH7). It then asks me if I want to set up any other RAID drivers by pressing "S" again, or Enter to continue. I hit Enter, then it goes to the usual partition creation screen. I don't take the floppy out, but it still does not read the files when it gets past the formatting stage. Any ideas?

[cujo]

have you tried changing your cdrom?

[yoman]

Hy all.
As u can see im new on the forum and this is my 1st post.
I have a little problem OC'in my SuperTalent mem on P5W.
I have E6600, Asus P5w DH delux, x800xl, Fortron Blue Storm 500W......
And Super Talent 800Mhz CL4 Overclock T800UX2GC4 (i think its D9GMH on it).
Sorry on my crapy english.
I have a problem on every Vdimm over 2.2.
I set 800Mhz 4-4-3-8 2.2V and can pass 6h of MEM test, and if i set the same setting on 2.3V, 2.4V i get like thousand errors in 5 min......
Even if i set 533 4-4-3-8 cant pass test if Vdimm is over 2.2V.

What is the problem? MBO and CPU are brand new, memory is 4 months old.
I read about D9xxx chips get damaged very easily, but there says that than ram dont wanna work on low Vdimm.....

Any clue?

Can some1 pls answer...

Are these the ones with Blue Heatspreaders? If so, do not expect too much after 800Mhz, I tested them a while back and had to return them because they OC horribly and before anyone says anything (you can't return an item because it doesn't OC to your expectations) I took the 15% restocking fee.

yes its the mem with blue HS's.
when i bought that ram i had different MBO and i managed to get stable 1150Mhz 4-4-4-8 2.45V (with 1200mm fan on ram). That was just to test ram and for my curiosity. in 24/7 use i used 800Mhz 4-4-4-8 2V.
I bought new MBO and i tryed to OC and get problem discribed above.

[nicepun]

Can some1 pls answer...



yes its the mem with blue HS's.
when i bought that ram i had different MBO and i managed to get stable 1150Mhz 4-4-4-8 2.45V (with 1200mm fan on ram). That was just to test ram and for my curiosity. in 24/7 use i used 800Mhz 4-4-4-8 2V.
I bought new MBO and i tryed to OC and get problem discribed above.

What mem divider and fsb?

[cbell]

have you tried changing your cdrom?

No I haven't... I didn't think it'd be a CD problem. The drivers are on the floppy disk, and it's supposed to read those at the "Copying files" portion of the setup, but it only tries to read them from the CD. It's weird, cuz it reads the files fine off of the floppy when I'm at the "Press S" stage.