ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

[Seb R]

Run memory at Auto for dram frequency when overclocking FSB. disable hyperpath and those 2 other memory features under "Enable SPD"

You WANT this enabled..........Your chances of overclocking to a "reasonable" (1ghz overclock seems reasonable on core 2 duo's with air cooling) are a lot harder with SPD disabled and using the limited memory tuning features we have.

So even if your booting @ PC-4300, if your booting at 380-400mhz FSB x 10 (E6700 I think you have), once you got it running stable with your memory "limp". I will call it limp because your memory might be capable of so much more, yet your not even pushing any of it. Then you keep SPD enabled, and try one DRAM frequency at a time, play with the voltages, and watch temps during stress testing.
I got my comp running at 5-5-5-12, 36 TRFC @ 2.2v w/ team xteme pc6400 4-4-4-10 2gb kit, and PC-5700, or 1:1 ratio. I consider this a decent enough overclock.
Dude cheers for the advice, but you're describing exactly what I've done...
I started by finding the max FSB of the CPU while being easy on the RAM, then I find the fastest speed at which I can run the RAM (at SPD, which is 5-5-5-15 @ 2.4v on the Dominator). I've not been concerned with the temp of the RAM, as it's running nowhere full speed - but when I have checked, the sticks have been fine to touch and are only warm. I've not bothered pushing the timings, but I may get round to it.

I have disabled all of those 'Hyperpath' and throttling features and have done from the start!

:)

[gritty]

Noobie Questions, request your indulgence

Just finished installing and running the P5W DH. Booted up ok and installed Win XP Pro wirh Sp1 and Sp2 with no problems.

Now I noticed that when the computer is shut down, the laser mouse light is still on. Why is power still there, shouldn't the light be off: was so on my other computer?

Also, I thought the SATA drives were to be hot swappable. I do not see anything in the task bar for this (safe to remove device as for the USB devices). Went to the Device Manager and clicked on the Sata drive and have choices for uninstall, disable, etc. Do you do it through here with the disable function? Then you can remove the drive?

I don't have a need for the Raid function, but do want to use the SATA drives as a bunch of separate drives (video editing and storage). This being so, do I still have to install Raid drivers?

Also, I am installing a X-Fi card and will not be using the MB sound system and would assume do not need to install the RealTek sound driver as well?

Many good things on this forum, but need to get past some of these basics first.

Thank you for any replys.

[factory81]

I managed 400mhz higher in oc'ing in the process of lapping every chipset fan, cpu hsf / applied AS5.
I also just reseated the heatsink, made sure firm contact.....temps dropped a bit.


I have some extra northbridge cooling which I heavily recommend.

[iadstudio]

Hi guys, here is a link about FSB1333 support.
http://event.asus.com/mb/fsb1333/

Does the 1901 bios and official 1333fsb support offer advantages for over clocking?

[BenchZowner]

Does the 1901 bios
Ehm...we can't try out 1901 because...we can't find it :D

and official 1333fsb support offer advantages for over clocking?

Depends...but honestly, don't expect any advantages in oc.

[geisher]

@gritty

Now I noticed that when the computer is shut down, the laser mouse light is still on.
USB port 3 and 4 are powered thus supporting wake up function via remote control, etc..

Also, I thought the SATA drives were to be hot swappable... Went to the Device Manager and clicked on the Sata drive and have choices for uninstall, disable, etc. Do you do it through here with the disable function? Then you can remove the drive?
yes,there are hot swappable once you installed and enabled AHCI in Bios.But you won't have any option to remove them via windows(AFAIK).

Also, I am installing a X-Fi card and will not be using the MB sound system and would assume do not need to install the RealTek sound driver as well?
right,i'm using a x-fi card and didn't install the realtek sound driver.
Hope this will help.

[gritty]

@gritty

USB port 3 and 4 are powered thus supporting wake up function via remote control, etc..

yes,there are hot swappable once you installed and enabled AHCI in Bios.But you won't have any option to remove them via windows(AFAIK).


right,i'm using a x-fi card and didn't install the realtek sound driver.
Hope this will help.

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Great. This really helps. One thing though, the mouse is plugged in to the mouse port on back of the MB, not in USB port. Thank you.
Gritty

[Skerlnik]

I'm a long time lurker, first time poster. I've found this thread to be extremely helpful!

On to my question:

I'm running an e6600 1.47v @ 3150mhz with a CNPS9500 + AS5
4:5 memory clock (4gb Titanium Alpha VX2 PC2-8000) @ 2.35v (set by SPD)
1.65v northbridge
1.20v south
1.40v fsb
all inside a massive Thermaltake Tai-Chi case (plenty of air flow).

When running Orthos, I've seen the Intel TAT report up to 67c! Am I going to damage my CPU? Is this operating temp at full load alright for the long term? At idle it's about 52c. I use this PC for development - I hate it when it's unstable.

On a side note it seems like anything over 350fsb fails Orthos within seconds :(, could this be temperature related? Any tips?

Best regards,
Sker

http://arcweb01.arcmdev.org/ArcMesa/logs/skerlnik_pc.jpg

[factory81]

I'm a long time lurker, first time poster. I've found this thread to be extremely helpful!

On to my question:

I'm running an e6600 1.47v @ 3150mhz with a CNPS9500 + AS5
4:5 memory clock (4gb Titanium Alpha VX2 PC2-8000) @ 2.35v (set by SPD)
1.65v northbridge
1.20v south
1.40v fsb
all inside a massive Thermaltake Tai-Chi case (plenty of air flow).

When running Orthos, I've seen the Intel TAT report up to 67c! Am I going to damage my CPU? Is this operating temp at full load alright for the long term? At idle it's about 52c. I use this PC for development - I hate it when it's unstable.

On a side note it seems like anything over 350fsb fails Orthos within seconds :(, could this be temperature related? Any tips?

Best regards,
Sker



Temps are up there for mild OC.........I say reseat cpu / lapp and sand every surface. Spend some quality time with the mobo / cpu.....

[triggerc]

you also don't need 1.65 on the MCH for 350mhz fsb. 1.55v should suffice.

[iadstudio]

I'm a long time lurker, first time poster. I've found this thread to be extremely helpful!

On to my question:

I'm running an e6600 1.47v @ 3150mhz with a CNPS9500 + AS5
4:5 memory clock (4gb Titanium Alpha VX2 PC2-8000) @ 2.35v (set by SPD)
1.65v northbridge
1.20v south
1.40v fsb
all inside a massive Thermaltake Tai-Chi case (plenty of air flow).

When running Orthos, I've seen the Intel TAT report up to 67c! Am I going to damage my CPU? Is this operating temp at full load alright for the long term? At idle it's about 52c. I use this PC for development - I hate it when it's unstable.

On a side note it seems like anything over 350fsb fails Orthos within seconds :(, could this be temperature related? Any tips?

Best regards,
Sker

http://arcweb01.arcmdev.org/ArcMesa/logs/skerlnik_pc.jpg

I actually need 1.65 vmch to got stable with my chip/mobo. I would hold off on sanding the CPU and heatsink. Reseat with Arctic Silver and prep the mobo(if you haven't already) and replace the Asus TIM and cool the NB if needed.

[iadstudio]

I actually need 1.65 vmch to got stable with my chip/mobo. I would hold off on sanding the CPU and heatsink. Reseat with Arctic Silver and prep the mobo(if you haven't already) and replace the Asus TIM and cool the NB if needed.

If the reseat doesn't help then you might need to lapp. Prepping the mobo by modding the NB and SB heatsinks makes a huge difference. Also, bring the memory down to 1:1 and see if that helps too. My board ran a 4:5 and even a 2:3 stable for a while but one day said enough and now at 355fsb memory deviders F everything up for me. The good side of that is I got my XMS2 PC8500 running stable at 710mhz 3-3-3-6.

[Skerlnik]

Thanks for the advice. I think I do need 1.65v on the NB to be stable. I've had a heck of a time trying to run stable with this MB. I may need to re-seat the CPU and reapply the AS5. I remember when I first installed the CPU I had to remove it once, so that probably didn't help the AS5 bond. How does one remove AS5 from a heatsink & CPU?

Also, what does it mean to prep the MB?? I have applied AS5 to the NB (lightly scratched the stock paste off with a small screwdriver heh.. probably not the best method), but that's all I've done.

Regards,
Sker

[iadstudio]

Basically follow this thread. (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=106563) Everything but the voltmods are pretty much necessary to get a nice OC.

Be sure to follow the methods mentioned. screwdriver TIM removal is not an approved technique :)

You wont need to update bios chip, remove wifi chip. but follow everything mentioned for the NB and SB heatsinks. I even have a 40mm fan on low on the NB.

[loutsos]

I have a quick question, not really a problem:

http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/1604/untitledxh3.th.jpg (http://img363.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledxh3.jpg)

The bios (1707) is set at 400MHz FSB (multiplier 8).
If you look at the image, CPU-Z correctly reports 3200MHz on a 400x8 FSB.
Orthos reports 3600MHz.
Coretemp reports 3600MHz at 450x9.

I suppose everybody gets those weird readings? Or am I the only one?

By the way, the mobo overclocks like mad, pretty much stock volts except for the CPU, my temps are ridiculously low (20c at idle) :toast:

[krat]

@1.50v on MCH I got 53 degre C on the north-bridge heatsink on idle (case open)
That mean the chip temp is higher than that. :eek:

I wonder what would be the temp at 1.65v MCH :confused:

krat
**Powered by Thermaltake Armor, Liquid Cooled Bigwater SE, AeroCool GateWatch, Purepower 680W Active PFC, Asus P5W-DH-Deluxe, 975X Intel Chipset, Rated FSB 1333Mhz, Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 @3000Mhz, 1GB Dual-Channel RAM Corsair TWIN2X1024A-6400 @417Mhz, ATI AIW-2006 Radeon X1300 PCI-E, 2 Maxtor DiamondMax 300GB Sata-2, XP Pro.

[monza1412]

@1.50v on MCH I got 53 degre C on the north-bridge heatsink on idle (case open)
That mean the chip temp is higher than that. :eek:

I wonder what would be the temp at 1.65v MCH :confused:

krat
**Powered by Thermaltake Armor, Liquid Cooled Bigwater SE, AeroCool GateWatch, Purepower 680W Active PFC, Asus P5W-DH-Deluxe, 975X Intel Chipset, Rated FSB 1333Mhz, Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 @3000Mhz, 1GB Dual-Channel RAM Corsair TWIN2X1024A-6400 @417Mhz, ATI AIW-2006 Radeon X1300 PCI-E, 2 Maxtor DiamondMax 300GB Sata-2, XP Pro.


How did you get that temp?? A probe in the northbridge?

[krat]

monza1412:

yes, I have 4 probe with my AeroCool GateWatch unit.

krat

[krat]

I forgot to mention that the temp is way below 50C if the MCH voltage setting is AUTO. around 35C.
That is why I would carefull if trying any higher mch voltage. If you burn your finger just by touching the heatsink, add a fan. lol
krat

[nickfd]

In the OC database, I see L630's and L632's hitting 3.8ghz+ and 4ghz+, granted they may be on water or phase, but their vcore is like 1.6. I am putting more vcore than that and it doesn't even boot into windows let alone be stable.

Yes, week 30/32 chips, revision A, do really well, and don't require much voltage to get good clocks. I had thought you meant the earlier revision A's, like my crap week 27 on water.

I can boot into windows at 385x9, fix my memory settings, and go up to 400x9 with 1.65vcore, but the box'll freeze or reboot as soon as I actually do anything.

[nickfd]

I'm a long time lurker, first time poster. I've found this thread to be extremely helpful!

On to my question:

I'm running an e6600 1.47v @ 3150mhz with a CNPS9500 + AS5
4:5 memory clock (4gb Titanium Alpha VX2 PC2-8000) @ 2.35v (set by SPD)
1.65v northbridge
1.20v south
1.40v fsb
all inside a massive Thermaltake Tai-Chi case (plenty of air flow).

When running Orthos, I've seen the Intel TAT report up to 67c! Am I going to damage my CPU? Is this operating temp at full load alright for the long term? At idle it's about 52c. I use this PC for development - I hate it when it's unstable.

On a side note it seems like anything over 350fsb fails Orthos within seconds :(, could this be temperature related? Any tips?

Best regards,
Sker


I concur with a few of the posters regarding to try cleaning your cpu and heatsink and reapply AS5. Being in the high 60's on your cores isn't all too bad from what we know; it's when you're in the 70's that the life of the chip supposedly lowers. However, you should not be getting this hot with so little voltage, even only on air.

The MCH at 1.65 should be okay as long as you don't burn your finger on the heatsink when you touch it. If it's too hot to touch, add a 40mm fan to it, or replace it totally with an aftermarket cooler.

[iadstudio]

The MCH at 1.65 should be okay as long as you don't burn your finger on the heatsink when you touch it. If it's too hot to touch, add a 40mm fan to it, or replace it totally with an aftermarket cooler.

Simply adding a 40mm fan for me worked wonders. Not only did it cool the NB by at least 10c but it must be circulating air at the base of the CPU heatsink because my cpu tamps dropped by quite a few degrees as well.

[Skerlnik]

I'm definitely going to clean & reapply AS5 under every heatsink.

iadstudio, thanks for the link on prepping the mb. I've got all kinds of cleaning tools on my grocery list now... including a 40mm fan. My NB isn't finger-burning hot, but I'm always down for keeping things cool. The CPU temp is what worries me the most.

Thanks again for the advice folks! I'll post (hopefully lowered) temps once I've completed this work.

Regards,
Sker

[Stiffler]

I have a pretty serious case of diminishing overclocking ability with my board. I have an E6400 that was running fine at 400MHz FSB and would run almost 100% at 450MHz. I had it at 400MHz for at least 3 months with no problems at all. I shut off my computer, then removed a USB connection from the lower 2 USB ports which caused the machine to start up again. Before it could boot I yanked the power as I was removing the other cables. I moved the computer to another desk and connected everything back up and turned it on. I got the "Overclock Failed" message on boot. Ever since then I've had an incredibly difficult time getting it to run at even 333MHz FSB. I've flashed the BIOS twice, cleared CMOS and everything I could think of. I'm stuck at 333MHz FSB on a chip I know can do WAY more than that. Any suggestions?

Information:
E6400
OCZ Powerstream 520W
OCZ 2GB Platinum DDR800
Watercooled

[scaramonga]

I have a 40mm fan on both north & south.......big difference....never looked back :) :)

[Seb R]

Good news...

The blue screens are back!!

This time a PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA error and a random restart without any kind of message! To me, this makes no sense; The system is as solid as a rock on the new mobo for a few days, then repeats the crashing!

I would have expected the instability to be completely continuous if any hardware or driver problems were present, and I can't understand why there would be a small length of problem-free time.

Anybody experienced this before?

S

[Rattle]

I want the new bios, anyone have it ?

[Sparx]

Sorry to butt in here but I am having my first real problem with my P5wdh DX

I put a HR-03 heat sink on my Ati x1900xtx today and all was fine until this evening.

I was checking some digital images and portions of the images are black.

I double checked the cooler for shorts to the card and can see none.

So I put the card in the lower Pcie slot and the images are showing perfectly.

Went back to the top Pcie slot (being sure the card was fully in the slot) and I have the blackened areas on digital images again. I reinstalled the ati drivers with no change.

Again went into the lower slot and the images are perfect.

Has the board gone bad?
Let me know if you have any thoughts please and thanks.
Should have just left the damn noisy factory cooler on the 1900! I had a perfect system. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
jim
Edit: Problem solved by going into ATI Cat Control Center and resetting the GAMMA thingy. God knows I hate ATI drivers and products.
No shame on the mighty ASUS P5WDH DX! :D :D Damn great molther board!

[gritty]

First off, thank you Nick and Geisher for the help.

New questions now. Just flashed Bios to 1707 (using Asus Update in Windows), when rebooting bootup screen stated "checksum error". What went wrong now, hit F2 to proceed and all seemed to work.

Next, when adding programs, etc. and asked to restart the computer hangs in the bootup screen (one with hit DEL to get to Bios). Have to fully shut down with power switch and turn on with power switch, then computer completes with the Windows install. Why can't computer restart from the restart command or the soft boot switch?

During bootup on bootup screen both my CD and DVD reader/writers are listed, but in Bios only the CD drive is listed. Tried the DVD writer in Windows with Nero and made a data disk ok. Both are on the secondary IDE port. Why doesn't the (Pioneer 110) DVD drive not show in Bios?

Again, thank you for helping.

[DutchBBQ]

I have a pretty serious case of diminishing overclocking ability with my board. I have an E6400 that was running fine at 400MHz FSB and would run almost 100% at 450MHz. I had it at 400MHz for at least 3 months with no problems at all. I shut off my computer, then removed a USB connection from the lower 2 USB ports which caused the machine to start up again. Before it could boot I yanked the power as I was removing the other cables. I moved the computer to another desk and connected everything back up and turned it on. I got the "Overclock Failed" message on boot. Ever since then I've had an incredibly difficult time getting it to run at even 333MHz FSB. I've flashed the BIOS twice, cleared CMOS and everything I could think of. I'm stuck at 333MHz FSB on a chip I know can do WAY more than that. Any suggestions?

Information:
E6400
OCZ Powerstream 520W
OCZ 2GB Platinum DDR800
Watercooled

Same problems reported here:
http://www.abxzone.com/forums/intel-chipsets/107287-p5w-dh-deluxe-overclock-backing-down.html

[OneyedK]

I have a pretty serious case of diminishing overclocking ability with my board. I have an E6400 that was running fine at 400MHz FSB and would run almost 100% at 450MHz. I had it at 400MHz for at least 3 months with no problems at all. I shut off my computer, then removed a USB connection from the lower 2 USB ports which caused the machine to start up again. Before it could boot I yanked the power as I was removing the other cables. I moved the computer to another desk and connected everything back up and turned it on. I got the "Overclock Failed" message on boot. Ever since then I've had an incredibly difficult time getting it to run at even 333MHz FSB. I've flashed the BIOS twice, cleared CMOS and everything I could think of. I'm stuck at 333MHz FSB on a chip I know can do WAY more than that. Any suggestions?

Information:
E6400
OCZ Powerstream 520W
OCZ 2GB Platinum DDR800
Watercooled

I've owned a few powerstream 520's and yes, you have to be carefull with it. (I changed to Tagan)
Don 't know if you have the combined or the split load revision.

If you have the combined load version, you simply have to readjust de voltages with the board under load and everything at stockspeed.
Measure them with a digital volt meter.
12.12V, 5.05V and 3.34V are the best values (in my experience) to adjust for overclocking. (too much voltage puts extra stress on the regulators of the mobo and that's not a thing you want. needless to say that undervolting the powerlines is not an option)

If you have the split load version (later revision, you have to check the label on the psu itself) the 12V2 seems to be the first that get's hit if there are problems with the electrical power circuit in you house or if you yank out the powercord like you did.
The board is capable of powering an E6xxx with only 12V1 working, i6xx or D8xx will simply not boot. (on 12V1 alone, that is)
Overclocking will be impossible...

Best thing is to measure all the voltages coming from the PSU UNDER LOAD, if you have a power sucking graphics card, plug it in and have 3Dmark looping while you measure.

What if it's not the powersupply???
That would be difficult. Most likely, something on the board is damaged and it will not recover from looking at it :-( RMA-time.
If it would have happened to me, I'd try another bioschip, or flashing the chip (in an external programmmer, so the whole chip gets flashed) before sending the board in rma, but I don't know if you have a programming device.

[Zeus]

Good news...

The blue screens are back!!

This time a PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA error and a random restart without any kind of message! To me, this makes no sense; The system is as solid as a rock on the new mobo for a few days, then repeats the crashing!

I would have expected the instability to be completely continuous if any hardware or driver problems were present, and I can't understand why there would be a small length of problem-free time.

Anybody experienced this before?

S

Blue screens like that are most often memory/chipset related.
Loop memtest in windows or memtest under dos for a few hours, it's most likely your memory subsystem acting up on you.

What FSB and Vmch are you using?

I'd recommand:

< 350MHz 1.5V
350- 400MHz 1.55V
401- 425MHz 1.6V
>425MHz 1.65V

Try SPD settings for your mem and overvolt mem with 0.1V when running memtest.

[geisher]

@gritty


Just flashed Bios to 1707 (using Asus Update in Windows), ... hit F2 to proceed and all seemed to work.
I read somewhere in this thread someone mentioning that flashing Bios using AFUDOS is safer than the Asus update(Alt+F2 during POST)... but seem like it's not a big deal as your comp is working.

... restart the computer hangs in the bootup screen (one with hit DEL to get to Bios). Have to fully shut down with power switch and turn on with power switch, then computer completes with the Windows install.
this should be fix with your new Bios(look at the 1st page of Larry thread, there is some info about that ), try to disable any devices you are not using to speed up the POST too.

During bootup on bootup screen both my CD and DVD reader/writers are listed, but in Bios only the CD drive is listed.
Look at the jumper and see if they are correctly configured
I have one of my optical drive in de PRI_EIDE channel and don't show up in Bios but windows does, so as long as it's working there is nothing to worry about.

[cuke2u]

Hi, flashing the bios with Asus update will always result with the checksum error as it resets the bios. You need to go back inthe the bios and reset it the way you want.
AFUDOS won't clear out the settings if you don't put in the correct parammeter, / something. As far as I'm concerned neither are anymore safer than each other..
ChrisC

[OneyedK]

Good news...

The blue screens are back!!

This time a PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA error and a random restart without any kind of message! To me, this makes no sense; The system is as solid as a rock on the new mobo for a few days, then repeats the crashing!

I would have expected the instability to be completely continuous if any hardware or driver problems were present, and I can't understand why there would be a small length of problem-free time.

Anybody experienced this before?

I suspect you neglected extra northbridge cooling again :slapass:

[cuke2u]

Here is is folks ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/
ChrisC

[Stelios]

THAAAAAAAANKKSSSSS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D
Gonna try it right now !

[lawrywild]

Awesome :)

I'll rpaidshare it for faster download

[S1mon-]

Is it a official BIOS? because I don't see it on ASUS download section for the P5W DH Deluxe...

[Stelios]

No different options so far ... Needs some more search though ...

[lawrywild]

Rapidshare.com mirror: http://rapidshare.com/files/15696308/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1901.rar

[intense321]

In device manager, I get an Error 31 - Cannot load driver for 6TO4 adapter. This is in Vista Ultimate. Does anybody else have this problem or know of a solution?

[scaramonga]

Cmon guinea pigs.....test the new BIOS so I know its OK to flash :D ;)

[BenchZowner]

Mmm..downloading and flashing.
expecting the CPU Multipliers lock bug presence

[yenclas]

Any news on advanced timmings in this new BIOS ?

[BenchZowner]

Any news on advanced timmings in this new BIOS ?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2003817&postcount=3793

[missme]

i can use the wireless card in the vista....the asus wlan said cant find it even i install the driver already

some one can help me plz?

[nickfd]

I have a pretty serious case of diminishing overclocking ability with my board. I have an E6400 that was running fine at 400MHz FSB and would run almost 100% at 450MHz. I had it at 400MHz for at least 3 months with no problems at all. I shut off my computer, then removed a USB connection from the lower 2 USB ports which caused the machine to start up again. Before it could boot I yanked the power as I was removing the other cables. I moved the computer to another desk and connected everything back up and turned it on. I got the "Overclock Failed" message on boot. Ever since then I've had an incredibly difficult time getting it to run at even 333MHz FSB. I've flashed the BIOS twice, cleared CMOS and everything I could think of. I'm stuck at 333MHz FSB on a chip I know can do WAY more than that. Any suggestions?

Information:
E6400
OCZ Powerstream 520W
OCZ 2GB Platinum DDR800
Watercooled

The thread where OneyedK talked about checking the power rails could surely be the issue. You should check your voltages and verify.

However for me, when I started having degrading performance, it ended up being one of my sticks of memory, which errored out in memtest86. I'd recommend to burn a bootable dos iso of memtest and checking your dimms together, then separately if you have an error, to rule that out.

[nickfd]

Rapidshare.com mirror: http://rapidshare.com/files/15696308/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1901.rar

Sweet, lawry! I can't wait to get home from work tonight and see if i can get more performance!

[lawrywild]

i can use the wireless card in the vista....the asus wlan said cant find it even i install the driver already

some one can help me plz?

Have you got all 8 usb ports enabled in the bios?

[Stiffler]

Thank you everyone for the help. I will test my powersupply this weekend and see if it's putting out the right voltages. I have the combined one. My volt meter is a bit of a junker though. I'll have to come up with a better one. Any ideas on a decent cheap one? I have an 8800GTS coming today so that should stress the PSU a decent amount. I was also thinking about picking up an eVGA 680i board this weekend from Fry's and seeing how well that works. I do run Vista on my machine though and I've heard of some people having problems with that board and Vista playing nice.

I was also thinking it may be a memory problem, but I've tried many combinations of 6 different sticks and it still wont post with even 1 brand new stick anymore. But I will still run Memtest at stock and see what it finds.

[DJSUB]

Hi,
i tried flashing the new 1901 bios but when i decided to flash back with 1804 bios i got this message from asus update :

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3121/flashvm6.png

i also tried using EZ flash utility but it's not allowed or no options to downgrade the bios :(

is there any way to force flash to the previous bios?

tnx in advance

[Eastcoasthandle]

Has anyone found the 1333 option (under normal clock) under CPU Frequency for bios 1901?

[lawrywild]

1333 option??

that's just fsb 333 which the board will automatically set when it detects a fsb1333 cpu installed with this bios

[WeldZilla]

Hey DJSUB. First why the change back? You load the new bios and already want to can it. Why? I believe the 1804 to be a piece of crap but, to each their own. OK well if you have a floppy drive that would be a good thing. If you do then first take your P5WDH1804.ROM bios and rename it to
P5WDH.ROM and then load it to a floppy. Enter your bios and go to EZ flash 2
Plug in the floppy. Once in EZ flash hit enter and then the tab button to hi-lite the A: drive then hit enter. It will read the floppy and make sure all is OK then Flash it to the 1804 for you. If the 1804 is your favorite bios keep the floppy so you can flash it back cuz soon there will be a 1904 then 1907 to try.
I keep my 1707 bios floppy handy all the time.

Good luck remember to change the name of the file and look at your book if you get nervous. Remember when it is done it will reboot itself and then you will have to go back into your bios and reset everything to where you had it.

WZ

Hey lawrywild what do you think of the new bios any early first impressions. I am not even go to this one up at this point.

[JokerCPoC]

Has anyone with a QX6700 Core 2 Extreme cpu flashed to 1901 yet to see If the multiplier support is unlocked above 10? As I'm using 1601 until Asus unlocks It again.

[nickfd]

Hey DJSUB. First why the change back? You load the new bios and already want to can it. Why? I believe the 1804 to be a piece of crap but, to each their own. OK well if you have a floppy drive that would be a good thing. If you do then first take your P5WDH1804.ROM bios and rename it to
P5WDH.ROM and then load it to a floppy. Enter your bios and go to EZ flash 2
Plug in the floppy. Once in EZ flash hit enter and then the tab button to hi-lite the A: drive then hit enter. It will read the floppy and make sure all is OK then Flash it to the 1804 for you. If the 1804 is your favorite bios keep the floppy so you can flash it back cuz soon there will be a 1904 then 1907 to try.
I keep my 1707 bios floppy handy all the time.

Good luck remember to change the name of the file and look at your book if you get nervous. Remember when it is done it will reboot itself and then you will have to go back into your bios and reset everything to where you had it.

WZ

Hey lawrywild what do you think of the new bios any early first impressions. I am not even go to this one up at this point.

Heya WZ..

I just flashed and see no additional options in the chipset/cpu settings, so our hope for tRFC/tRD are squashed again. I'm not going to stress it too much right now, since I really want to get some Vanguard gaming in, but I'm disappointed that visually it's no different. :nono:

[SteveMoffat]

Hi

I've just killed my board I think. Flashed to the 1901 bios from floppy, but it would not verify and would not revert to the old bios (1801).

The pc will not boot now. Is there any way to restore the bios or is it RMA time??

I have tried clearing the settings with the jumper.

Help!!!!!

Steve

[DJSUB]

i already tried renaming the files to p5wdh.rom & flash.
even reflashing 1901 with asus update & when i tried to revert to old bios same message appears. if u use afudos or ezflash it will search for updated bios or else u cant flash ur mobo.
we need a bios does not searching for updated one

1901 is always searching for updated bios.
this is a warning! dont flash ur mobo with this bios
you cant go back to the previous one.
i already tried asus update,afudos & ezflash without any luck

[Eastcoasthandle]

Wow, it looks like you would do better calling the bios department and paying $5 for the update on a bios chip...

[mikepaul]

i already tried afudos & ezflash but no luck :(
i also tried renaming the files to p5wdh.rom.
even reflashing 1901 with asus update & when i tried to revert to old bios same message appears.
we need a bios does not searching for updated one
Yea, I'd like to know how they managed to make an upgrade to 1901 a 1-way street.

Lucky for me, I have a couple of spare chips with older BIOS on them, so I can pop one in and reflash to 1701, but that means a trip inside the case I could do without.

1901 refuses to accept my BIOS changes, and just keeps asking me to fix the checksum error. Only if I hit F2 to load defaults am I allowed into Windows. Same crap with a previous BIOS, but now I'll have to perform surgery to get out of it. Apparently, I'm still at my usual OC though.

I realize 1901 didn't make it to the Official Downloads section, and last time I talked to a Tech at ASUS he told me to NEVER flash the BIOS unless it was advertised to fix a problem I actually had, but this still seems like someone is pulling an early April Fools joke...

[scaramonga]

Such a relief........LOL.........I'll refrain from upgrading to 1901 LOL :p:

[wagoogee]

You can return to a prior version from 1901 by using afudos211 on Asus's ftp site. I used it to return to 1601.

And BTW, 1901 does NOT fix the multiplier problem.

[DJSUB]

You can return to a prior version from 1901 by using afudos211 on Asus's ftp site. I used it to return to 1601.

And BTW, 1901 does NOT fix the multiplier problem.

confirmed working :)

tnx for ur help bro :D

[JokerCPoC]

You can return to a prior version from 1901 by using afudos211 on Asus's ftp site. I used it to return to 1601.

And BTW, 1901 does NOT fix the multiplier problem.
Thanks, wagoogee. :D

Asus what are You thinkin? :eek:

[syne_24]

Hi

I've just killed my board I think. Flashed to the 1901 bios from floppy, but it would not verify and would not revert to the old bios (1801).

The pc will not boot now. Is there any way to restore the bios or is it RMA time??

I have tried clearing the settings with the jumper.

Help!!!!!

Steve


So you cant even get back in the bios menu? If you can then it's possible to reset back to the original bios from booting with installation disk. Otherwise you have to ask asus for a bios chip and swap it out.

[elyrly]

i had a quick question, should i change the NB heatsink to something with a fan?

thanks

[triggerc]

i had a swiftech mcx159-cu on it, it performed about 10c better than stock measured with a probe. Now I have a Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II and it performs even better.

[iadstudio]

i had a quick question, should i change the NB heatsink to something with a fan?

thanks

I just zip tied a 40 mm fan to the NB and have the extreme spirit on my SB. The fan on the NB works wonders and helped immensely in OCing. You don't necessarily have to replace the heatsink on the NB but actively cooling it was my choice.

[Eastcoasthandle]

does anyone have the website that allows you to request a bios chip?
Nevermind, I think I found it
Bios Chip Update Website (http://helpdesk.asus.com/BIOSORDER/store/aci_dynamicIndex.asp)

[nickfd]

Unbelievable.. Same thing happened to me, however I was trying to use ez-flash, windows flash, and afudos 2.07. Will try now with 2.21.

I am NOT happy with this bios at all. My once stable 385x9 at 1.58 vcore with 2.3 vdimm at 4-4-4-12 6-28 without a problem cannot do it anymore on 1901. Why is it that Asus is moving backwards with these subsequent bios updates? It's shameful.

DO NOT UPGRADE TO THIS BIOS!!! IT'S WORTHLESS AND WILL MAKE YOUR BOX UNSTABLE AND LOWER YOUR OVERCLOCK!

Thank you. Off to try to salvage 1707 back using this newer ver of afu dos.


Damn. 2.21 didn't work, and now that I scrolled up, the poster said 2.11. I'm too exhausted for tonight and will hopefully be successful in downgrading tomorrow. I was hoping for more stability and a possible higher memory clock, and all I got was the same thing that i'm getting used to with these past few bios releases; instability. What a shame.

Can anyone else verify that 2.11 afudos does downgrade plase ?

[scaramonga]

Why is it that Asus is moving backwards with these subsequent bios updates? It's shameful.

1. No one 'forced' you to upgrade?

2. This BIOS is not 'official' and is only seen on ASUS FTP.

3. Use at 'own risk' policy I would think.

4. Always let the 'silly' people test before jumping in with big feet.

;)

[bichi]

LOL! - ya'll sound like a bunch of limp wristed hayseeds...

Both ASUS FLASH BIOS Utility (in 1901) and AFUDOS 221 did not work when trying to revert back from 1901.
- error message said some silly nonsense like: "firmware older than motherboard...."

AFUDOS 217 worked for me, reverting from 1901 back to 1707.
- FTP: ftp://dlsvr02.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/flash/AFUDOS_v217.zip
- also uploaded to: http://premium1.uploadit.org/bichi007//AFUDOS217.zip

Also, had no issues nor improvements with 1901 with my sissy QX6700 OC of 3.0G
- did notice ASUSFlash utility inside BIOS seemed to find flashdrive much quicker than previous versions.
- going back to 1901, after testing "retro-bios...."

[yenclas]

No problems here with 1901 bios. With 1707 i got unstable in 400x9 and 2.20 vdimm. I needed 2,25 vdimm. With this bios and 2,20 vdimm is fully stable.

I hope for advanced timmings in new releases.

Bye !

[scaramonga]

Here is all AFUDOS files for the peeps :)

http://rapidshare.com/files/15808844/AFUDOS_ALL.rar.html

[Zeus]

Hi

I've just killed my board I think. Flashed to the 1901 bios from floppy, but it would not verify and would not revert to the old bios (1801).

The pc will not boot now. Is there any way to restore the bios or is it RMA time??

I have tried clearing the settings with the jumper.

Help!!!!!

Steve

Steve,

According to the manual you can just boot with the Asus CD that came with the motherboard in case your bios might corrupt.

It should revert to the stock bios.

Did anyone try to run 4:5 with FSB running at 400MHz with this new bios?

[cuke2u]

Hi, all running just the same with 1901 as it was with 1707 1801 1804, zzzzz
ChrisC

[nickfd]

1. No one 'forced' you to upgrade?

2. This BIOS is not 'official' and is only seen on ASUS FTP.

3. Use at 'own risk' policy I would think.

4. Always let the 'silly' people test before jumping in with big feet.

;)


Yeah, I take full responsibility for my actions. I'm not as stable as I was anymore, and can't even do 385x9 with 1.60 stablely, but I went down to 380x9 and ran my 3dmark and while I got a slightly marginally lower CPU score, my shader model 2 and 3 scores went up..

Gonna try 4:5 mem to see if I can get it stable, then make a determination if I will stay or go back down. I don't mind being slightly clocked lower since my performance is up.

[nickfd]

Yeah, I take full responsibility for my actions. I'm not as stable as I was anymore, and can't even do 385x9 with 1.60 stablely, but I went down to 380x9 and ran my 3dmark and while I got a slightly marginally lower CPU score, my shader model 2 and 3 scores went up..

Gonna try 4:5 mem to see if I can get it stable, then make a determination if I will stay or go back down. I don't mind being slightly clocked lower since my performance is up.

Okay, I'm at 4:5 with 380fsb and 950mem, and I got better performance all the way around.. Granted, I'm only looking at 3dmark06 breakdowns, since I never took number readings from superpi, so my apologies for that.

When I was at 1:1 385x9 4-4-4-12 28-6 (bios 1707), i got: 11360 3dmarks (4970 sm2, 5036 sm3, 2991 cpu).

I wasn't stable at 385x9 with same timings on mb 1901, so went down to 380x9 and did same 1:1 tests. GPU drivers have not changed, and got 11638 3dmarks (5156 sm2, 5182 sm3, 2979 cpu).

Now I did 4:5, 380x9 mem at 950 4-4-4-12 28-6 (1901 bios), i got: 11693 3dmarks (5150 sm2, 5179 sm3, 3047 cpu).

Marginal? Sure, but I think I'm going to stick with this bios and 4:5.. At least until people show us some superpi numbers showing which is the computational right way to go.

Let the comparison matrix's come!

[DJSUB]

1901 are now official, already posted on their website.
i can do better overclocking with bios 1804 than any other bios.
i've done 465x7 with my e6300 without mod. :D
1901 is a crap.

[SteveMoffat]

Just ordered a new chip from BiosMan. My board does not boot at all. Completely dead. So much for the bios protection. :mad:

[WeldZilla]

Hey bichi, speaking of limp wristed hayseeds. 2 questions 1st. If you just got the bios and gave it a quick try, why did you change your sig so fast to reflect the new bios. 2nd if you are not hayseed why did you not change your sig back if you really did revert back to 1707. Huh? Huh?

WZ

[miochza]

I went to 1901, then reverted back to 1707 because you guys gave me a scare. But it didn't really seem that bad.

[TR1GG3R]

well ive took the plunge and upgraded :rolleyes: and i tried to do the ai booster inbuilt 30% over clock got to the desktop then my screen turned yellow then moniter went off tried again only usin the fsb overclock seting that it has and that worked no bother :) (newb to oc'in) why i tried built in 1 :( and runnin it back at stock now seems okay but i dont really know wot to look out 4 :confused:

[lawrywild]

1901 seems atleast as stable as 1707 for me so far. Orthos tests tonight so that's when I'll be able to see any real differences if any..

I upgraded coz I believe it probably also has some improvements for Vista again which I'm moving to soon

[Qba73]

doesnt 1901 also usher in the support for 1333 fsb intel cpus's like it was noted on that asus site that showed the bios and model of board for 1333 support.

[Eastcoasthandle]

ICH7R vs EZ backup vs E-Sata (http://65.108.167.248/Asus%20HD%20Tests.jpg)
Found this while browsing

[Nmbr1Ballr]

I am still on 1506. Do I need to upgrade or is it recommended? If so what version?

[Eastcoasthandle]

I'm still on 701. I haven't seen a need to upgrade till now. I *may* give it a go using 1901

[psy4fun]

Just read the first post:

"lawrywild's current recommended BIOS version: 1707"

Although I believe there's no perfect BIOS version. Best to read the whole thread to found the better match according to your needs.

[jozzy]

where can i download the 1901 one? its not beta, right?

[mikepaul]

LOL! - ya'll sound like a bunch of limp wristed hayseeds...

AFUDOS 217 worked for me, reverting from 1901 back to 1707.
<spitting piece of straw from corner of mouth>

Yep, but thanks for info on setting up a safety net for next time, since I'm back to 1707. I'd never bothered with AFUDOS due to USB updates going so well. Now at least I know I can try again with the next released BIOS and worry less about trying it out...

[Stiffler]

An update to my OC decrease:

I tried a different PSU that I had here and I got the same results. So I went to Fry's and picked up an eVGA 680i board and just got it all hooked up. My overclocking is back! There is definitely something wrong with the board. I guess I will RMA it and sell it. I removed the covers off of both the heatsinks, anyone know if Asus will refuse the RMA because of this?

Well, I guess it's time to put everything back inside the case. Thanks for all the help everyone.

[elyrly]

just RMA the asus board they are pretty quick on sending it back.

[BulldogPO]

That 1901 is released to public by Asus:
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/P5WDH1901.zip

[DutchBBQ]

February 2007 releases:
* Marvell Yukon LAN WHQL compliant drivers for all XP and VISTA flavours
* DirectX for XP ONLY: Febr.2, 2007
* Realtek WLAN driver for XP/VISTA: Febr.5, 2007
* Realtek Audio driver for XP: Febr.8, 2007
* JMicron for XP/VISTA: Febr. 8, 2007
* BIOS 1901: Febr. 9, 2007
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20061112200624969&board_id=1&model=P5W+DH+Deluxe&page=1&SLanguage=en-us

[monza1412]

Any new experiences with the 1901 bios??? I would like to know if its posible to run 4:5 stable (fsb=400/mem=1000)

[sombrio]

Bios 1901 sucks!!! It gives me orthos error after 36 minutes with the same settings os bios 1707. Now i want to flash back to bios 1707 and says that bios 1707 is older than the motherboard :doh:

[miochza]

Already covered if u want to downgrade... use Afudos 211.

[Rattle]

Any new experiences with the 1901 bios??? I would like to know if its posible to run 4:5 stable (fsb=400/mem=1000)


I had no luck again

p5b-d rev 1.03g here i come

[abrarhaq]

Hi guys, im having a very weird problem. Whenever i play any type of sound on my PC (mp3's, games) it periodically slows down or skips or distorts. This is hightened if there is any type of load on my computer (uncompressing RAR's, opening limewire) I tried reinstalling the sound drivers and all that. No improvement. I upgraded from bios 1707 to 1901, still nothing. I heard somewhere the southbridge overloads and u gotta up the voltage to your sound chip. I dont know whether that is accurate nor how to do it. Anyone have any ideas?

p5wdh deluxe
e6600 core 2 duo @ 2.4ghz
OCQ 2gb Special Ops 900mhz Ram
e-vga Nvidia Geforce 7950 Gx2
2x Sata2 Drives
2x Ide Drives
2x Atapi Drives

[OneyedK]

Hi guys, im having a very weird problem. Whenever i play any type of sound on my PC (mp3's, games) it periodically slows down or skips or distorts. This is hightened if there is any type of load on my computer (uncompressing RAR's, opening limewire) I tried reinstalling the sound drivers and all that. No improvement. I upgraded from bios 1707 to 1901, still nothing. I heard somewhere the southbridge overloads and u gotta up the voltage to your sound chip. I dont know whether that is accurate nor how to do it. Anyone have any ideas?

It's actually a memory-error...
You can prevent it:
In Bios go to advanced.
AI Overclocking : manual
Memory voltage : 2.1V (at least, check max warranted voltage from your memory and put it at that voltage)
MCH Chipset voltage : 1.55V

That should do da trick ;-)

[JokerCPoC]

What sucks the worst is that Asus says now that If You have a Core 2 Extreme(x6800 or QX6700) cpu You can not go above the default multiplier, Which Intel allows and Bioses from 1602 and up are against Intel Policy.:slapass: :slapass:

[dogbert_2001]

I'm running 1901, and I've noticed that my 3:4 mem divider won't POST. 4:5 and 2:3 are fine.

Anyone else notice the same?

[gritty]

Geisha,

Tried to activate AHCI in Bios and that part went ok, but when computer reboted, it stated that a new PCI device was found and needs to install driver. Put in Asus CD and two Intel drivers were found. Tried to install first one and it said that it was not the one for this computer. Should I select the second driver? Or is there another one that should be used?

Thank you

[NghtShd]

I had no luck again

p5b-d rev 1.03g here i come

That'll teach Asus to make crappy boards.

[Psitech]

1901 is working fine for me. I'm just as stable as I was with 1707. Having said that, I'm not seeing any kind of improvements.

Still having a problem with my teamgroup D9GMH with this board. I'm having to run 2.35 volts just to be rock solid stable at 390mhz (3-4-4-9). I know this ram can do way better than that usually at lower volts. I can't even boot 1000 with 2.35v even at 5-5-5-15.

Anyone know the max voltage for this ram and also what is ok to run 24/7? This is the team 667 3-3-3-8 from tankguys.

[SturmoV]

Geisha,

Tried to activate AHCI in Bios and that part went ok, but when computer reboted, it stated that a new PCI device was found and needs to install driver. Put in Asus CD and two Intel drivers were found. Tried to install first one and it said that it was not the one for this computer. Should I select the second driver? Or is there another one that should be used?

Thank you


If you're trying to activate AHCI on a system that already has WinXP installed, this is the only way you can: http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t457699.html

[Malk4vi4n]

1901 is working fine for me. I'm just as stable as I was with 1707. Having said that, I'm not seeing any kind of improvements.

Still having a problem with my teamgroup D9GMH with this board. I'm having to run 2.35 volts just to be rock solid stable at 390mhz (3-4-4-9). I know this ram can do way better than that usually at lower volts. I can't even boot 1000 with 2.35v even at 5-5-5-15.

Anyone know the max voltage for this ram and also what is ok to run 24/7? This is the team 667 3-3-3-8 from tankguys.

Try raising the vFSB on bios to 1.4. Worked for me in a similar situation.

[lawrywild]

I'm running 1901, and I've noticed that my 3:4 mem divider won't POST. 4:5 and 2:3 are fine.

Anyone else notice the same?

It's the same with all other bioses

[rodemannetje]

Hello,

I have a 6600ES. I thought the multiplier of a ES was unlocked. However, in the bios (1506, 1707) the multiplier is locked (greyed out).
Does anybody here with a ES know which bios doen unlock the multiplier, or is unlocking not possible? Thanks for the reply.

[Zeus]

Hello,

I have a 6600ES. I thought the multiplier of a ES was unlocked. However, in the bios (1506, 1707) the multiplier is locked (greyed out).
Does anybody here with a ES know which bios doen unlock the multiplier, or is unlocking not possible? Thanks for the reply.

Start reading from page 1 and you'll find out.:p:

Seriously, older bios versions have unlocked multi's for ES CPU's, don't know which versions though.

[nickfd]

Hello,

I have a 6600ES. I thought the multiplier of a ES was unlocked. However, in the bios (1506, 1707) the multiplier is locked (greyed out).
Does anybody here with a ES know which bios doen unlock the multiplier, or is unlocking not possible? Thanks for the reply.

I'm not sure about the ES line of CPU's, but if you select one of the CPU options in the bios, you can unlock the multiplier downwards. Look around in the bios; I'm sorry I don't remember the option or what page it's on, but it's in the same area as Speedstep and Virtualization.

[rodemannetje]

Sure, downwards is no problem with a 6600 (with a newer bios), but a upwards unlocked multiplier with my 6600es would be great. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

[nickfd]

Sure, downwards is no problem with a 6600 (with a newer bios), but a upwards unlocked multiplier with my 6600es would be great. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

More than likely, you'll suffer the same unfortunate consequences that Asus chose to apply for the Core 2 Extreme (x6800/qx6700), which is exactly that. No upward mobility of multiplier, only downward.

You'll have to do some searching through the thread to find an appropriately unlocked multiplier bios for the board.. It was one of the first and early ones, so start on page 1. :)

Best of luck!

[rodemannetje]

Thanks. However: page 1 does not specify which bios is specially suited for a ES. If i remember correctly, it was a bios before 0701, but which one? I do not want to loose c2d support.

[Psitech]

Try raising the vFSB on bios to 1.4. Worked for me in a similar situation.

That voltage is ok for 24/7 use with this ram?

[elyrly]

quick question: somewhat related to the p5w

ok just bought my self a D9 but now i am worried about the heat that is being produced. i can't find any conclusive test that there will be a gain on buy the heatspreader. i am afraid to bump the voltage up on the p5w with efficient amount of cooling.

[Rattle]

That'll teach Asus to make crappy boards.


is there a mobo out that will do it ?

[775911]

try crystalcpuid, that switches multiplier realtime for me. In theory it has options for any number..

[BenchZowner]

More than likely, you'll suffer the same unfortunate consequences that Asus chose to apply for the Core 2 Extreme (x6800/qx6700), which is exactly that. No upward mobility of multiplier, only downward.

You'll have to do some searching through the thread to find an appropriately unlocked multiplier bios for the board.. It was one of the first and early ones, so start on page 1. :)

Best of luck!

Actually it's a bug in Asus's BIOS coding [ sigh ]
You can use any of the previously released BIOS with working upwards Multipliers [ earlier than v1602 ]
You should flash-back with EZ-Flash or AFUDOS 2.11 with the Full Flash parameter, else you'll still get locked multipliers

[nbraker]

I ran XP on my current config. and now have Windows Vista Ultimate.... i want to install it clean to my raid 0 array. Here is what I have and the problem.

Processor: Conroe X6800 @ 2.963Ghz
Motherboard: ASUS P5W DH Deluxe (1707)
Graphics: 2 Radeon 1900XTX in Crossfire Mode
Memory: 4*1GB A-DATA DDR2-800
Power: Silverstone 650W
Harddrives: 2x 150GB SATA Raptors:RAID 0
Harddrives: 1x 75GB SATA Raptor
Cooling: Zalman CPNSxxxx
OS: MS Vista Ultimate

I cannot get Vista to install on the Raid drives where WIN XP installed just fine. I'm trying to find 64 bit drivers for the Intel ICH7R raid controller but to no avail. Windows does not seem to recognize the drive.

I boot up the system with the new 64 bit Vista, get to the section to load raid drivers (note it is now very different than XP).

1. windows does not recognize the current raid 0 drives telling me i have an invalid system volume. I have tried deleting the partition, creating a new one and formatting it. Deleting and Creating seem to work but Formatting 'appear's not to.
2. i cannot seem to find the right intel raid drivers as I am 'thinking' it must read ICH7R and all i can find is ICH7.

Any ideas? what else am I missing?

Update:

I went into the BIOS (1707), set everything to AUTO or enabled that made sense. Windows is installing as I type this. I broke the basic rule to start with the 'base' settings first. Only reason I was in that state was my previous install was working in WIN XP and my BIOS settings reflected the changes mentioned in this thread... if you're putting in a new OS... start from scratch on the BIOS too. hehe.

[Phoenix_TT]

Tried 1901 last night, appears to be no different to the recent BIOSes (180x and 170x).

Still can't boot with SPD disabled and manual memory timings for my Cosair XMS2 6400 memory at FSB 400!

Temps in TAT and Coretemp are still a few degrees different as well.

[chron]

I THINK 1901 HAS MESSED MY COMPUTER UP!

After updating the bios, it worked ok for a few days, now it won't get past "Detecting fourth IDE drive."

HOW CAN I UPDATE THE BIOS IF IT WONT EVEN LET ME GET INTO THE BIOS SETTINGS OR ANYTHING!?

[QuietRiot]

Apparently it has messed up your computer - your caps-lock seems to be locked in place. :D

According to this thread, it's a known issue. Look on page 154, post 3827 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2005294&postcount=3827).

[megabit]

Actually it's a bug in Asus's BIOS coding [ sigh ]
You can use any of the previously released BIOS with working upwards Multipliers [ v1602 & earlier ]
You should flash-back with EZ-Flash or AFUDOS 2.11 with the Full Flash parameter, else you'll still get locked multipliers

I remember that with the BIOS v1602, the situation was exactly the same as with v1901; ie. the first attempt at increasing the multi seemed sucessul (it was accepted in BIOS settings), but after reboot it was reset back to 10 and any further trials were refused. With BIOS 1704, even the first attempt after the flash didn't work - when I input 12 end pressed ENTER, it was reset back to 10.

This is why I think there is a possibility of some logic behind it, and not just the Asus engineeres being unaware of the problem - but of course I'd like to know for sure if and how I can (or will be able) to increase the multi for my QX6700. After all, the open multiplier in Extreme series comes for a price, so making me unable to use it is unfair, Asus! :nono:

[rodemannetje]

Megabit: exactly the same happened with me yesterday. Is there a bios that does not reset the mp after reboot?

[Timmaah]

The first time the computer boots up after a bios update all multipliers are unlocked for any chip, after you reboot then it has the proper ones, like for the e6600 6-9 and not 6-20. As for the 6700 and x6800 having problems... *shrugs*

[BenchZowner]

I remember that with the BIOS v1602, the situation was exactly the same as with v1901; ie. the first attempt at increasing the multi seemed sucessul (it was accepted in BIOS settings), but after reboot it was reset back to 10 and any further trials were refused. With BIOS 1704, even the first attempt after the flash didn't work - when I input 12 end pressed ENTER, it was reset back to 10.

This is why I think there is a possibility of some logic behind it, and not just the Asus engineeres being unaware of the problem - but of course I'd like to know for sure if and how I can (or will be able) to increase the multi for my QX6700. After all, the open multiplier in Extreme series comes for a price, so making me unable to use it is unfair, Asus! :nono:

Sorry, I meant any BIOS prior to v1602.
Editing post to avoid more confusion

[daos]

Yeah any BIOS 1602 or earlier should allow you to use your upward multi's on the ES, and Extreme CPUs.

[daos]

Tried 1901 last night, appears to be no different to the recent BIOSes (180x and 170x).

Still can't boot with SPD disabled and manual memory timings for my Cosair XMS2 6400 memory at FSB 400!

Temps in TAT and Coretemp are still a few degrees different as well.


Its your memory. Sell the memory and get some 6400 Dominator. That will work fine.

[elyrly]

quick question, i tried to bump the fsb to 400 but memory is unstable

can you give me some starting point, the voltage? thanks

[m0da]

quick question, i tried to bump the fsb to 400 but memory is unstable

can you give me some starting point, the voltage? thanks


What kind of memory do you have?
Usually, 2.1-2.2v is the limit before you void your warranty, so try not going above that (unless of course... you want to ;))

I would suggest using 2.2v or even 2.25v if needed to maintain stability at 800mhz.
Also, if your memory can't handle cas 4 at 800mhz, then just bump it up to cas 5 and lower your voltage from 2.25v until you are still stable.

[chron]

Guys, seriously, I need some help.

After updating the bios to 1901, my computer ran fine at first. My temperatures on the cpu seemed better as well. I was watching futurama when my computer suddenly shut down on monday night. I turned it back on to find lockups at windows load screen, and lockups after "detecting fourth IDE drive." and reboots if it got into windows, and lockups after trying to load "giveio.sys" at the safemode startup.

I've done what this guide said, and moved the hd to another connection on the motherboard, then post worked, then it didnt. I find its totally random if gets past POST or not, and when it does it more than likely will lock up in windows (safe mode as well) -- keep in mind its random to me. I see no pattern.

I've tried using afudos and asus ez flash, but the system locks up before I can flash to 1707. After typing "afudos /i1707.rom" it locks up. After pressing alt+F2 to get to EZ flash, it finds P5WDH.ROM but locks up.

My suspicions lean toward a bad power supply. I have a 500w Rosewill PSU powering an e6600, 2x1GB g.skill DDR2-800 4-4-4-12 (2.2v) two SATA hard drives, two DVD burners, X-Fi with front bay, and a TV tuner 550 pro.

Another suspicion is that it could be faulty RAM (although the ram was never overclocked, and never gave errors in memtest.) I would try memtest +86 but the computer simply locks up.

I've removed everything that isnt needed to post, and I've tried a working 350w psu with the same symptoms. I know it sounds stupid to test a 350w after a 500w couldnt power it, but its all i had. I'm still confused as to whether or not its the psu because of the low wattage on the second PSU.

Does this sound like 1901 is the culprit or has my PSU or RAM died?

Please please help. I'm a college student and need this thing for a few major projects I'm working on.

[Skerlnik]

So I finally managed to gather all tools needed to prep this MB. I cleaned & applied AS5 to all chips & heat sinks, as well as adding a small fan to the NB. What great fun. So I turn on my pc and the BIOS post hangs right before it detects USB devices.

Wonderful.

I power cycle it, it detects USB devices, but then when it goes to initialize the ICH7 RAID (I have Vista Ultimate on a RAID 0), it stops... simply 2 black screens (2 monitors) with blinking cursors and no error messages, didn't even get to the windows loading part. No idea what's going on at this point. Another power cycle, and I set the FSB to 266, memory divider to 1:1 (from 2:3), 2.3v for memory (required by my OCZ sticks), but before I can save & exit - the BIOS menu locks up. :mad: I recall reading something about people experiencing this on this forum, but had no idea how to resolve it. I got back into the BIOS a few more times, and it locked up *IN THE BIOS* a few more times. I was able to load Vista twice, but it was unstable - my e6600 @ 2.4ghz locked up Windows when I ran Orthos, AND also when I tried the Asus Update utility! Getting pissed by that point.

So, thinking maybe the CMOS is corrupt or bios 1804 just generally sucks, I plug in my USB key with 1707 bios on it, and do the EZ flash from the BIOS (didn't lock up for once). It said it completed, but upon reboot it was STILL 1804 (probably won't allow older versions like the 1901 testers have been saying?). Anyway, I'm thinking *maybe* the process of me trying to flash the BIOS has corrected the problem? I haven't tried overclocking it yet since I've been happy just to be running Windows again.

On a side note, we had some power outages here last night, and I learned that my Opti-UPS is a *total* piece of crap. Upon the first power surge, it shut down & my PC went with it. I have a very nice professional UPS as well, but I haven't wired my loft for the larger AMP circuit yet (that's what I get for being lazy). Does anyone think this could have something to do with my MB's sudden erratic behavior?

I've read Chron's post (above) and it seems like we're having some of the same issues (except I'm on 1804). Anyone have any suggestions? Anything I should look for? It seems like the MB no longer wants to overclock at ALL.

Thanks in advance,
Sker

[iadstudio]

chron, spend some money on RAM and a good PSU from a store near you that you can return easily. Swap the parts out and test, at least you'll know if either are the problem.

That's one of the main reasons I don't update my bios or do anything major to the machine durring certain times. If I have a project working or on the horizon I leave it alone until I know I have a few weeks of down time, just in case. I'm still running 1503.

[chron]

all ive got near me is compusa, and it sucks as far as availability of parts goes. I'll see what they have tomorrow.

[J33pG33k]

Is there a way you can get a hold of some D9GKX mem sticks? I've come to the conclusion that for some odd reason when it comes to higher 400+ FSB this mobo does not play nice with D9GMH regardless of the high binning. I have some high binned D9GMH and D9GKX and so far this has been my conclusion, of course I'm talking about 450x8 set in bios. Someone out there can prove me wrong. Or maybe it has something to do with the SPD timings that set in the memory itself.
Its been a few weeks, but I have accumulated several pages of notes on what settings are working and what aren't. I have managed to get the ram to 4-3-4-8 @ 400 Mhz and 2.1v, but cannot go any further.

After looking at the DDR2 Ram List http://ramlist.ath.cx/ddr2/
I realized that I have v2.1 modules, which are not D9GMH, but rather ProMOS IC's.

Does anybody have comments on these modules? From what I keep reading, opinions are generally negative, but as always there have been some (albeit few) positive reviews. Corsair claims that with extra voltage and relaxed timings they should be able to make 900 Mhz...http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-125012.html I can successfully run Memtest for several hours at speeds up to 420 Mhz @ 5-5-5-12, but I get random freezes when I load the system. This makes me think that the memory isn't at fault...

(Current settings: fsb = 400, Vcore = 1.4375, Vdimm = 2.1, ratio = 1:1, SPD = 4-3-4-8, Vmch = 1.55 (1.65 does not affect stability over 400), all else on auto.)

[Skerlnik]

So, since I was having so much trouble with stability recently (lock ups even in BIOS menu), I decided to try 1901. That was probably the wrong thing to do. Now it won't post at all. I pulled the battery & reset the CMOS, but it still won't even post. The strange thing is, when I did have it posting, it started getting worse - when it went to load Vista, it said the ntosxxx.exe was missing or corrupt, and winloader.exe was bad too, etc etc. Why would my HD's suddenly be corrupt? I dont think I believe it... seems like the BIOS had something to do with it.

Anyway, it's a doorstop at the moment. I think it may have something to do with my memory (OCZ Titanium Alpha) since it requires 2.3v. I know the board isn't giving it that voltage after a CMOS reset :( I don't know what to do.

Should I order different memory? (If so, which modules are great for this MB?)

Do I need to replace the MB? It's a rev. 1.02G.

Any ideas at all anyone?? This is horrible - I'm a developer & all my dev tools and code are on that box :( I dont even know if I can read one of my EZ-Raid mirrored HD's in another box.

ALL help is appreciated,
Sker

[OneyedK]

I think it may have something to do with my memory (OCZ Titanium Alpha) since it requires 2.3v.

Did you try booting with one stick? (didn't need that trick with OCZ Titanium Alpha on my P5W DH, but I do need it on my P5WDG2 WS Pro)

Once you get in the bios setup, try getting rid of all the "auto" settings, ASUS is havin' a ball with those settings!
(especially voltage controlling)

If you know someone with a outboard flash programmer, ask that person to flash the bios again.
Flashing a bioschip on an unstable board is not the smartest thing to do...

[nickfd]

So, since I was having so much trouble with stability recently (lock ups even in BIOS menu), I decided to try 1901. That was probably the wrong thing to do. Now it won't post at all. I pulled the battery & reset the CMOS, but it still won't even post. The strange thing is, when I did have it posting, it started getting worse - when it went to load Vista, it said the ntosxxx.exe was missing or corrupt, and winloader.exe was bad too, etc etc. Why would my HD's suddenly be corrupt? I dont think I believe it... seems like the BIOS had something to do with it.

Anyway, it's a doorstop at the moment. I think it may have something to do with my memory (OCZ Titanium Alpha) since it requires 2.3v. I know the board isn't giving it that voltage after a CMOS reset :( I don't know what to do.

Should I order different memory? (If so, which modules are great for this MB?)

Do I need to replace the MB? It's a rev. 1.02G.

Any ideas at all anyone?? This is horrible - I'm a developer & all my dev tools and code are on that box :( I dont even know if I can read one of my EZ-Raid mirrored HD's in another box.

ALL help is appreciated,
Sker

Hey man, sorry to hear about your problems. I wanted to put in my five cents regarding a couple things:


My Corsair requires 2.2v, but still posts fine with the piddly 1.8v that the mb gives it upon cmos reset. I don't think this would be your problem.
Any mirror/stripe/array created in one chipset will NOT be compatible in another.


I guess I should be thankful that nothing fried with my stuff when going to 1901.

Could there be a trend with this issue related to people running Vista? Seems like it..

[cuke2u]

Hi, no issues with 1901 and Vista here, just played Halo @ 1920x1600, looks nice, for three hours....
ChrisC

[iadstudio]

Could there be a trend with this issue related to people running Vista? Seems like it..

Overclockers who like to play with system settings + early adopters of new Operating Systems = high likely hood of things going wrong.;)

I don't think the problems with these systems posting is due to a Vista install but i could be wrong.

[Skerlnik]

OneyedK, I've tried booting with the *1* stick that used to let me post, but it's no longer posting. Makes me wonder if it really is the memory. I went ahead and overnighted some G.Skill HZ's just to be sure. It would be a shame to have 4gb of stupidly expensive OCZ Alpha's laying around collecting dust. You're totally right about flashing an unstable board - I didn't know what else to try.

Nickfd, I figured as much regarding the chipset raid arrays. I'm leaning towards a faulty MB now that you mention your chips boot ok at 1.8v. My board NEVER liked my OCZ modules, and would only boot at stock voltage when I FIRST got it. It soon decided to only boot them at their required 2.3v, of course now, not at all.

I may go out to a local store and pick up another P5W DH to try out. I just need to make sure they'll let me return it :)

Good looking out fellas,
Sker

[TR1GG3R]

Once you get in the bios setup, try getting rid of all the "auto" settings, ASUS is havin' a ball with those settings!
(especially voltage controlling)


:confused: i have just about everything set at auto so could any 1 be kind enough to tell me wot settings i should/need to use for a lil 24/7 overclock and right mem settings my specs is in my sig thanks

[chron]

so nobody has had or heard of the problems I listed above? Maybe its not the 1901 bios thats :banana::banana::banana::banana:in with my :banana::banana::banana::banana: after all.

[OneyedK]

OneyedK, I've tried booting with the *1* stick that used to let me post, but it's no longer posting. Makes me wonder if it really is the memory. I went ahead and overnighted some G.Skill HZ's just to be sure. It would be a shame to have 4gb of stupidly expensive OCZ Alpha's laying around collecting dust. You're totally right about flashing an unstable board - I didn't know what else to try.

Nickfd, I figured as much regarding the chipset raid arrays. I'm leaning towards a faulty MB now that you mention your chips boot ok at 1.8v. My board NEVER liked my OCZ modules, and would only boot at stock voltage when I FIRST got it. It soon decided to only boot them at their required 2.3v, of course now, not at all.

I may go out to a local store and pick up another P5W DH to try out. I just need to make sure they'll let me return it :)

I recently changed from P5W DH to P5WDG2 WS Pro and I'm still under the impression that the P5W DH was the better board. (unmodded)
Hope I change my mind after pencilmodding the P5WDG2, otherwise I'll regret to have sold a perfectly good motherboard :eek:

Good luck with the new one! Keep us posted!

[Skerlnik]

OneyedK, why did you change to the P5WDG2? Isn't that a much older board? I'd like to hear your impressions of it, as I'm considering purchasing a different board entirely. Perhaps the Intel 975 board. The P5WDH has been such an unpredictable beast. I just need to figure out how to back up my EZ-RAID mirror :( I think in future builds I'll purchase a RAID card so that I can easily move my drives to another MB/PC.

Still quite bummed. Haven't recieved my new G.Skill sticks for testing yet, but I don't think it will matter. This MB may soon be in the trash (doubt I can RMA it since I've prepped the NB & SB, it's obvious I've messed with it).

- Sker

[monza1412]

so nobody has had or heard of the problems I listed above? Maybe its not the 1901 bios thats :banana::banana::banana::banana:in with my :banana::banana::banana::banana: after all.



I did not have any problems so far... for me this bios its like the others, I mean useless (if they only could make a real improvment with all this bios releases, whats up with the trfc/trc thing??)

[megabit]

monza1412, I think you get it right - I used all the BIOS releases since 15xx through 17.xx and now 1901, and I can't see a SINGLE difference! The multiplier for my QX6700 still fixed:(

[OneyedK]

OneyedK, why did you change to the P5WDG2? Isn't that a much older board? I'd like to hear your impressions of it, as I'm considering purchasing a different board entirely.

It was easier to sell the entire setup that ran 24/7 folding @ 3200MHz than to sell the E6400 and 5400UL's separately...

And a friend of mine had a P5WDG2 WS Pro he wanted to get rid of (he decided to run a dual opteron rig after he bought the P5WDG2, so it's practically a virgin :D)

The following topic made me want to give that board a try:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=108011&highlight=P5WDG2

1st impressions:
bad onboard sound (AD) compared to the P5W DH (Realtek)
refused to boot with more than one stick of OCZ Platinum Alpha VX2 PC8000
vCore rather good, waiting for my Scythe to arrive to test droop
vMCH and vMEM are clearly undervolting, you can correct that with higher settings in bios, but it doesn't do you any good after a bios flash :s
I'll correct it with a pencil mod, waiting for a new Tagan to arrive
Finish of the coolers on the motherboard is much better than the ones on P5W DH, no need to lap them... I simply cleaned them and applied AS5...
Added a 40mm fan to the NB...
Staying @ 333fsb until the new cooler arrives and BSEL-mod for 1333fsb on the cpu is done (will get silver conductive paint tomorrow).

Sorry if this is a bit OT, but I think it's good to know that a P5W DH is a great board.
(after reading all the posts in this topic, people might come to the wrong conclusions)

[Skerlnik]

...refused to boot with more than one stick of OCZ Platinum Alpha VX2 PC8000...

...Staying @ 333fsb until the new cooler arrives and BSEL-mod for 1333fsb on the cpu is done (will get silver conductive paint tomorrow)...

Sorry if this is a bit OT, but I think it's good to know that a P5W DH is a great board.
(after reading all the posts in this topic, people might come to the wrong conclusions)

Interesting. It's good to know that your P5WDG2 hates OCZ Alpha's as much as my P5W DH. Memory voltages are just too low on cold boots it seems. It sounds like you relish getting your hands dirty with all kinds of mods before settling on just *using* your pc :) You really need a mod to run @ 1333fsb? I never had the guts to attempt the pencil mod considering how unstable my board has been.

I am now leaning towards the Intel D975XBX2, and as far away from Asus as I possibly can. I have nothing against their company, but I have small praise for the P5W DH. Mine has been quirky and very unpredictable since the beginning.

The Intel board is a 975X with the ICH7R also, do you think it can read my RAID-0 (on the ICH7R in the Asus now)? What concerns me most is if the Intel board can read either of my EZ-Backup Raid-1 drives :( Has anyone out there moved their drives to another MB?

Regards,
Sker

[OneyedK]

You don't "need" a cpu-mod to run fsb1333 ;-)
But, since the chipset will be strapped to 1333 instead of 1066, I hope to see an increase of OC.
read more: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=132900
My P5W DH/E6400 were limited to 440MHz fsb.
Hope to see some more with P5WDG2 WS Pro/E6600.

I use badaxes @ work, really nice boards, but I can't get used to the Intel-bios. Yes, they allow you to change almost everything, but when something goes wrong, it's hell to get them back on line...

You have a 99.99% chance that a raid-0 setup migrated to another system is unreadable, so I wouldn't even bother trying.
Datarecovery from a single drive coming from a raid-1 setup is possible most of the time.
Migrating a full raid-1 set to a new board is much more difficult, even with off-board controllers, sometimes things go wrong.

[Skerlnik]

I use badaxes @ work, really nice boards, but I can't get used to the Intel-bios. Yes, they allow you to change almost everything, but when something goes wrong, it's hell to get them back on line...

You have a 99.99% chance that a raid-0 setup migrated to another system is unreadable, so I wouldn't even bother trying.
Datarecovery from a single drive coming from a raid-1 setup is possible most of the time.
Migrating a full raid-1 set to a new board is much more difficult, even with off-board controllers, sometimes things go wrong.

Yeah, I hear you need to move "recovery" jumper when you have a bad OC on the BadAxe's. Small price to pay if the board offers any kind of stability though :) I've never been so frustrated with a MB (re: P5W)!

I figured as much regarding the RAID-0... but I thought... maybe... just *maybe* it would work considering it's the same southbridge. So do you think I could read one of my single raid-1 drives just by configuring it as a normal drive or would I need to make it a member of another array? My ignorance clearly highlights the fact that I've never tried this before :)

- Sker

[OneyedK]

So do you think I could read one of my single raid-1 drives just by configuring it as a normal drive or would I need to make it a member of another array? My ignorance clearly highlights the fact that I've never tried this before :)

If you simply connect/configure one disk as a single drive, you can read the data.
Booting from it would be another question, it should be possible, but I never had the luck...

If you make it member of another array, the data will be erased... (worst case)

[Skerlnik]

If you simply connect/configure one disk as a single drive, you can read the data.
Booting from it would be another question, it should be possible, but I never had the luck...

If you make it member of another array, the data will be erased... (worst case)

I'll give that a try. Good to know I will be able to read from one of them. I am even going to attempt booting from the original RAID-0 (why the heck not?).

So I received my G.Skill HZ's today, tried them in the P5WDH... no go. The board is officially a paper weight. Turns on, but the video fan just runs at full speed, no video, or it shows the ASUS splash screen but locks up (can't even get into BIOS). Now I've got 6 sticks of wonderful memory, and no working MB's... haha. Great. Anyone need spare P5W parts? :D

I did order the Intel BX2, hopefully I'll have it sooner than later! Thanks for all of your help!

- Sker

[nickfd]

:confused: i have just about everything set at auto so could any 1 be kind enough to tell me wot settings i should/need to use for a lil 24/7 overclock and right mem settings my specs is in my sig thanks

sig paste:
Processor: Core 2 Duo E6400 cpu family 6 model f steping 6 rev 44
Motherboard: ASUS P5W DH Deluxe (1901 Bios)
Graphics: ATI X1800 Crossfire Edition
Memory: OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) PC2-6400 Dual Channel Platinum Revision 2
Power: Hiper Type M 580 Watts
Sound: OnBoard but it does for my needs
Optical Drives: 2x Samsung SH182M 18x Super-WriteMaster DVD Writer
Harddrives: WD Caviar SE16 250GB
Cooling: Thermaltake Big Typhoon 120 VX, Stock Crossfire Heatsink
Case: Nzxt Black Apollo
Display: Cibox 19" Widesceen TFT

Well since I'm pretty much at work every waking hour of the day lately, I don't have access to my board, nor do I remember all the settings since the big time I spent tweaking all my settings was around Thanksgiving. However, the least thing you can do is this:

Set your overclocking to manual so you have access to manipulate your settings. On this page you can set your FSB and various voltages. Looks like your memory can run max at 2.2vDIMM, so I'd do that. 1.65 vMCH is good to rule out any instabilities with your northbridge. For your vFSB, set the option that turns the number colour purple, not red.. On CPU, this really depends on the week of production, so unfortunately I can't help you here. Later weeks require less voltage than earlier ones. I'm at 1.60 vCore using watercooling, but for most people this would cause their chips to go up in a poof of smoke. With stock cpufan or decent air I would say you could go to 1.45-1.50, but watch your coretemps!

Memory looks like you have 4-4-4-15, so you can set that. Turn off all the auto options on that page in the first teir of options.

For CPU, turn on microcode update and multiplier modification and leave the rest off.

For fan settings, I disable them all; however some people say they run into problems when they turn off q-fan and related settings. Not sure what to tell you here other than the more you turn off, the less stress you put on your board and the better you're going to be able to overclock.

If you have specific questions about a setting, value, or temperature you receive, let us all know.

Thanks!

[OneyedK]

Turns on, but the video fan just runs at full speed, no video, or it shows the ASUS splash screen but locks up (can't even get into BIOS).

Right before you give up the board... Try re-seating the cpu...
Just in case ;)

[stratos2004]

What fixes 1901 bios update?????

[lawrywild]

Version 1901 2007/02/09 update



Description P5W DH Deluxe BIOS 1901
Enhance compatibility between EZ-Flash II and USB Flash
Support new CPUs. Please refer to our website at: http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx



File Size 692.36 (KBytes)

[nbraker]

I'm running Vista Ultimate on my rig. Verdict is, it's a great upgrade. There are some annoyances with the security windows.

I'm using the 64 bit version and all my system drivers are available. ATI Crossfire included.

I miss iTunes as it does not work with my IPOD anymore under 64 bit. It 'might' work under 32 bit, haven't tried it. On second thought, I do not miss iTunes... sorry piece of software. I'm converting my music files and moving to another service.

[lawrywild]

I'm running Vista Ultimate on my rig. Verdict is, it's a great upgrade. There are some annoyances with the security windows.


Turn off UAC from the user accounts section in the control panel ;)

[bullit]

Sorry guys, can anyone tell me the maximum stable fsb for a 6600?

[Zeus]

Sorry guys, can anyone tell me the maximum stable fsb for a 6600?

Noone can, every CPU is different but if you mean on this board, mine loses stabilty after ~430MHzwith 1.65Vmch, stock coler on NB with AS5 applied.

[lawrywild]

1901 seems to have fixed the super-slow vista installation problems btw

[Mr.X]

I have a problem with the sleep mode when my CPU is OC'd. Whenever I put my PC in sleep mode I can't restore it unless I completely shut it off and wait a few secs before I power it up again. This usually results in an overclocking failure.

Anyone else has this problem? It's really annoying.

[Mr.X]

bump

[S1mon-]

I'm seriously wondering what's going on with ASUS selling a enthusiat board that can not change the multiplier on the Xtreme chip... My board cannot go past 413 FSB stable I wanna have something else :(

[Rob Halford]

I'm seriously wondering what's going on with ASUS selling a enthusiat board that can not change the multiplier on the Xtreme chip... My board cannot go past 413 FSB stable I wanna have something else :(
Welcome to the club... sigh... Now that I have "upgraded" to BIOS 1901, it turns out that 1901 is even less FSB friendly than 1601 on my setup... BSOD as of 330 compared to 350-370 with 1601... I was about to let of some steam - rather emontional right now - but decided to pass as it probably would have resulted in warning / kick... sigh... But those guys over at ASSUS, I do wonder what the hell they are up to... :slapass:

[OneyedK]

I was about to let of some steam - rather emontional right now - but decided to pass as it probably would have resulted in warning / kick...

:D It's very wise that you didn't...

But I have to say to all people who are stuck below 400MHz,
it's plain naïeve to think any bios update or downgrade would solve
your problem.

I fired this board up in august with bios 1201, stable up to 425MHz, beancheable up to 440MHz. I tried all bios versions up to 1707...
And yes, a few megahertz difference, but I think that was more cooling/voltage related than anything else.

So IF your cooling is ok (cpu, northbridge AND southbridge)
AND all voltages (measured with DMM) are ok
AND you still are not able to achieve high fsb,
you can conclude that there's something wrong with
your memory, cpu or motherboard.
Rule out wich of them causes the problem and rma
the damn thing.
A new bios will not solve anything for you :nono:

And yes, quality control of ALL MOTHERBOARD MAKERS (not only ASUS) is rather poor, the way I see it...
(so bashing on ASUS is NOT what this topic is all about)
I have a P5WDG2 WS Pro now, the funny guys at ASUS decided that if you put 1.325V vcore in bios,
you get an actual 1.28V idle and 1.27V loaded (droop is fine, but why the difference?).
If I ask 2.3V vdimm in bios, the board gives me 2.77V (better safe than sorry???).
--> It doesn't look so bad, but the lower voltage really makes it impossible to boot
the rig with two sticks after a biosflash...
They managed to get vMCH right, 1.5V in bios is 1.499V measured on the board.
--> good 'nuff to be rockstable with an E6600 @ 333MHz / 1.27V (Intel stock cooler atm)
One out of three ain't bad I guess :s

[Mr.X]

I have a problem with the sleep mode when my CPU is OC'd. Whenever I put my PC in sleep mode I can't restore it unless I completely shut it off and wait a few secs before I power it up again. This usually results in an overclocking failure.

Anyone else has this problem? It's really annoying.

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[OneyedK]

I have a problem with the sleep mode when my CPU is OC'd. Whenever I put my PC in sleep mode I can't restore it unless I completely shut it off and wait a few secs before I power it up again. This usually results in an overclocking failure.

Anyone else has this problem? It's really annoying.

Annoying? Like, someone posting the same question abou three times? ;)

Problem with sleep mode is, that the before going into sleep mode,
the current state of the PC is copied into RAM.
As long as you RAM is at stockspeed and spd (voltage and timings), the pc should be able to recover. (unless the nb and cpu power come up too slow)
If the RAM is overclocked in any way, you suffer data loss when the pc goes into hiberantion, so the data to reinitialize the pc is lost, thus you cannot revive the damn thing without a restart.
The reinitialisation requires some bios actions, wich will fail. So after a reboot, that flag is still set and will result in the "overclocking failed" message. You just have to enter the bios, do nothing and boot again...

So no, I don't use sleep mode, I just switch off my screen and external harddrives...

And, btw, this has NOTHING to do with P5W DH problems...

[Mr.X]

Annoying? Like, someone posting the same question abou three times? ;)

Problem with sleep mode is, that the before going into sleep mode,
the current state of the PC is copied into RAM.
As long as you RAM is at stockspeed and spd (voltage and timings), the pc should be able to recover. (unless the nb and cpu power come up too slow)
If the RAM is overclocked in any way, you suffer data loss when the pc goes into hiberantion, so the data to reinitialize the pc is lost, thus you cannot revive the damn thing without a restart.
The reinitialisation requires some bios actions, wich will fail. So after a reboot, that flag is still set and will result in the "overclocking failed" message. You just have to enter the bios, do nothing and boot again...

So no, I don't use sleep mode, I just switch off my screen and external harddrives...

And, btw, this has NOTHING to do with P5W DH problems...

So this happens with all motherboards?

[OneyedK]

So this happens with all motherboards?

When overclocked, yeps...

[cuke2u]

Hi, the link to the Asus FTP page is dead, you need to use this one ftp://dlsvr02.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/
ChrisC

[chron]

NEW PSU DIDN'T SOLVE MY ISSUES!

I origionally thought my random reboots and lockups were caused by a faulty psu, this is not the case. I am fairly certain its the bios.

Can anyone please shed some light on this for me? Has anyone had the same lockup/reboot issue as I have with the new 1901 bios?

[flashnc]

from all that ive read.....the 1901 bios is crap.....id say reflash back to at least 1701 or before....

[topboy]

Turn off UAC from the user accounts section in the control panel ;)

I would not recommend advising people to turn off UAC without a disclaimer.

Its a security feature that will help stop any trojans that get on your system trying to run with an elevated user permission.

With UAC turned off, and IF you get some nasties on your system that try to run under administrator mode, they will run, With UAC ON this will not happen.

Just be careful and be aware of the impact if you turn UAC off.

[elyrly]

stick with 1707 been running fine for me,

[kevsta112003]

Why does my computer start up in the middle of the night at random times?

I shut it down and come back later and its on. Never at any specific time. Cant figure out why. Help.

[chron]

screw it i made an entire thread about my issue to get more viewers...

[elyrly]

try running everything at stock or use 1707 bios

[chron]

I would try running 1707 bios if the system didn't lockup during bios flash. I'm thinking of ordering a chip from "biosman" but the order process is a little confusing.

Has anyone tried getting a bios chip from biosman?

Heres the real question; I've heard of "hot flashing" where you take out the bios chip while the computer is on, so is it safe to assume that once the computer gets past post and starts to load windows that it is no longer a major effect on the system? I mean, once it gets to windows boot screen, could the bios chip STILL cause a lockup/reboot?

[mikepaul]

The hard drive is making no concernable noise, and has always operated at a safe temperature, but when I connect the hard drives to different SATA connections, it seems to help it get past the "IDE Detection" step (but again, keep in mind that diconnecting both drives resulted in the same sort of lockups.)

I had lockup problems when my data drive was going bad last August or so. Once it was replaced, no more lockups. THere was a subtle click sound, usually followed by a useless computer that had to be powered off...

[RTShaw]

lost most control of my fingers so pleaqe bear with me, it hurts like hell 2 type. and take tons of meds so im very forgetful too
awhile back there was discussion on what driver 2 use to with the sil device but the search doesnt seem 2 be limited to this ongoing msg. heres whati got
2 raptors on ichr7 for quicker bootin and 2 500gig wd drives on sil as raid0 but they r a hell of a lot slower then when i had em on te intel ichr7 forgive me if i spelled t wrong.
tried putting all4 drives on the ichr7 as 2 arrys but that volume external volume thing screwes it up.
any suggestions or the msg nos they have that discussion. more i type the worse the pain till i have 2 resort 2 taking the morphne and valium then i cant do squat tech wise. i hate that cause im a cmptr nut/freakwhat ever u wanna call it

thank u

[chron]

I had lockup problems when my data drive was going bad last August or so. Once it was replaced, no more lockups. THere was a subtle click sound, usually followed by a useless computer that had to be powered off...

after disconnecting both hard drives in order to do a boot from CD with norton, the same issues appear.

[nbraker]

Kev,

Two things,
1: you are experiencing electrical power fluctuations that are triggering the BIOS to think power has been restored... a long shot.

2. you have the Wake on Lan setting on and something on your network is triggering that.

Having said that, i have no idea your situation so the above is a guess. Check your bios settings regarding wake on power and wakeon lan.

[marijtje]

Why does my computer start up in the middle of the night at random times?

I shut it down and come back later and its on. Never at any specific time. Cant figure out why. Help.
I have a similar problem, no fix yet. Your problem might have s.t. to do with the use of USB ports 3 and 4. Those ports will wake up your pc if you use them. Perhaps the story below will be of assistance to you.

After I shut down my pc it always immediately restarts again. I checked the keyboard, mouse and USB cord on another pc and it worked fine there, no unwanted restarts.
My latest BIOS update is 1602, but the problem was there before that update as well.
All the setting in the BIOS (WOL etc.) are correct.

My computer has 4 USB ports at the back and 2 at the front. (the 2 extra optional ones are not installed).
The 4 ports in the back are situated like this:
||
||
I do not use the 2 ports on the bottom of the above picture as they are dedicated to remote wake up which I do not use.
The 2 top ports of the above picture I use for the DiNovo keyboard and mouse. These are the 2 problem ports that would make my computer start up again after full shut down.

I wanted to be able to shut down my pc without having to use the power button so I installed a pci USB card with 4 ports. I used that to bypass the 2 problem USB ports and it worked, no more unwanted restarts.
Out of curiousity I tried the top 2 problem USB ports at the back of the computer again. To my surprise they gave no more problems when I shutdown the computer, no more unwanted restarts.
Just to see what would happen I took out the installed pci USB card with 4 ports.
The top 2 problem ports still gave no more problems so I left the pci USB card out. (after all, not too many pci slots on this mobo).

Next I found out that when I use the 2 USB ports at the front of my computer now cause the computer to start up again after I shut down. I have to take out any USB device in the front ports before I shut down the computer.

I am still in contact with the ASUS support team, I will post any positive development re this issue. I would also appreciate to hear from forum members if and how they solved this problem. (apart from never shut down pc again ;)


ASUS P5W-DH Deluxe
Intel Conroe E6600
nVidia 7950GT 256MB
HDD1: Samsung 80SATA II
HDD2: Samsung 400Gb SATA II
2048MB F2-6400PHU2-2GBNS
Creative XIFI Xtreme Music
DVD Plextor 750A
Logitech di Novo keyboard
OS: XP MCE
Samsung 970P 19"

[DutchBBQ]

Hi, the link to the Asus FTP page is dead, you need to use this one ftp://dlsvr02.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/
ChrisC

Someone at ASUS screwed it up. FTP-server is up, but that's all, up to now:
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/

[jikkyboy11]

I'm having a problem with my computer. I have an asus p5w dh, intel core 2 duo, 120GB sata and 320 GB sata, samsung lightscribe dvdr, and a usb card reader installed in a P180 case. The transfer rate on my computer is slow. My 4 year old laptop is faster. When I download apps like itunes or any other apps the transfer rate is 30kb's or less. I have a studio and to copy my sound library it took forever. Like a few days. Everything downloads very slow. I did a comparison opening some winrar file from my laptop and it opens them in seconds. With this computer it's taking me minutes, anywhere from 8 to 212 mins to open depending on the size. Please tell me I have something setup wrong. Help would be so greatly appreciated.

[BenchZowner]

Sounds like your drives are operating in PIO Mode.
Check your cables, and the transfer mode settings within Windows ( Device Manager => IDE/ATAPI Controllers ) => xxxx Channel => Advanced Settings.
Make sure they're set to DMA Mode.

[yobi]

for cd-rom & hdd;)

[nickfd]

lost most control of my fingers so pleaqe bear with me, it hurts like hell 2 type. and take tons of meds so im very forgetful too
awhile back there was discussion on what driver 2 use to with the sil device but the search doesnt seem 2 be limited to this ongoing msg. heres whati got
2 raptors on ichr7 for quicker bootin and 2 500gig wd drives on sil as raid0 but they r a hell of a lot slower then when i had em on te intel ichr7 forgive me if i spelled t wrong.
tried putting all4 drives on the ichr7 as 2 arrys but that volume external volume thing screwes it up.
any suggestions or the msg nos they have that discussion. more i type the worse the pain till i have 2 resort 2 taking the morphne and valium then i cant do squat tech wise. i hate that cause im a cmptr nut/freakwhat ever u wanna call it

thank u

Hey man, too much info!

Easy fix I posted a couple times already. Just remove the ez-raid jumper and use the right orange sata connector. You'll have 4 drives directly on the ICH7 southbridge and will be able to manipulate them with the intel raid config during post.

Best of luck.

[nickfd]

Well, not sure if it was related to the 1901, moving up to 4:5, or what, but my two sticks of corsair pc2-8500c5 sticks are officially dead. This is my second set of these dimms, first of which got replaced by corsair a month and a half ago or so.

When we got the 1901, I wasn't able to manage my original 385x9 1:1 and had to move down to 380x9. After some benchmarking, I determined that 4:5 gave me more performance, and the box ran great for a week and a half up til this past weekend. After experiencing tons of random reboots and misc box crashes, Sunday night my computer went into a serious reboot cycle in the middle of the night, and the ram degraded to a state where it won't even boot windows now.

Popped in memtest86 and I get thousands of errors every second. Nice, a?

I'm frustrated and upset over the incompatibility with 1066mhz memory and the intel 975 chipset, so I'm about to order some 800mhz stuff. I'm not sure whether I'll go g.skill or another company, but I'm done dealing with these problems.

When I RMA these corsair dimms and get a new set back like I did the last time, they're going up for sale.

[kevsta112003]

Kev,

Two things,
1: you are experiencing electrical power fluctuations that are triggering the BIOS to think power has been restored... a long shot.

2. you have the Wake on Lan setting on and something on your network is triggering that.

Having said that, i have no idea your situation so the above is a guess. Check your bios settings regarding wake on power and wakeon lan.

Thanks, I'm going to check on that right now.

[nickfd]

Just ordered: G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

part number: F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231065

I'll be curious to see if I will be able to get over my ~3470mhz wall with this new mem..

[jikkyboy11]

I checked and that wasn't it. It was already set in DMA mode. Any other suggestions? I notice that my my RAM runs at the 533 instead of the 800 so should I tweak something in the BIOS?

[Iannis]

Hi Guys

With BIOS 1506 boot at 385 FSB max
With 1707 at 370 and
With 1901 at 365 not stable

With the same setting:
Vcore = 1.6125
Vmem = 2.4
FSB = 1.5
MCH = 1.85
ICH = 1.20

PCI-e frequency = 115
Performance mode = Turbo

The PC is a E6700 W/C (eheim 1250-triple radiator with 3 12cm fans Cuper bloc by Eleven)
Memory : Super Talent DDR2-800(2X1GB T800UX2GC4 CL 4-4-3-8
P5W-DH Dlx rev 1.0
Enermax Noise Taker 600W
3 SATA (2 WD raptor 74GB RAID 0 on Intel) and one Maxtor Maxline III NCQ 300GB

The highest fsb that I can go is 420 ONLY from Windows with SetFSB tool
From BIOS 1909 3650 not stable
Whyyyyyyyyyyy???? 



PS. - 1 hour memtest Nr 5 at 900MHz memory with no errors (from boot CD)
-Temp idle
in Speedfan 30 C
with Core Temp Beta 0.94 50 C ?????
The correct tmp is?????????

-what are the settings for :
Peg Buffer Length
Link Latency
PEG Root Control
PEG Link Mode
Slot Power

Any suggestions????? Regarding mainly FSB

I already replace the thermal compount with AS5 and lapping heat sinks

[jikkyboy11]

This is a download of Itunes. I have a wireless desktop, but I'm using a wired connection. My old laptop would download this so quick. I am missing something. Can someone give me a site to run some performance tests please.

[cuke2u]

Hi,
Note: lawrywild's current recommended BIOS version: 1901
Problem - Fix.

ChrisC

[monza1412]

Well, not sure if it was related to the 1901, moving up to 4:5, or what, but my two sticks of corsair pc2-8500c5 sticks are officially dead. This is my second set of these dimms, first of which got replaced by corsair a month and a half ago or so.

When we got the 1901, I wasn't able to manage my original 385x9 1:1 and had to move down to 380x9. After some benchmarking, I determined that 4:5 gave me more performance, and the box ran great for a week and a half up til this past weekend. After experiencing tons of random reboots and misc box crashes, Sunday night my computer went into a serious reboot cycle in the middle of the night, and the ram degraded to a state where it won't even boot windows now.

Popped in memtest86 and I get thousands of errors every second. Nice, a?

I'm frustrated and upset over the incompatibility with 1066mhz memory and the intel 975 chipset, so I'm about to order some 800mhz stuff. I'm not sure whether I'll go g.skill or another company, but I'm done dealing with these problems.

When I RMA these corsair dimms and get a new set back like I did the last time, they're going up for sale.



Have you tried memtest in other divider??, I mean 1:1... I was indeed surprised when you said that 4:5 was working. I´ve a pair of D9 rated at 1000 and the only way they work passed the 350 fsb barrier its 1:1.
Its a trc/trfd thing.



read this thread for more info:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=112776&highlight=eva2000

[sombrio]

Hi Guys

With BIOS 1506 boot at 385 FSB max
With 1707 at 370 and
With 1901 at 365 not stable

With the same setting:
Vcore = 1.6125
Vmem = 2.4
FSB = 1.5
MCH = 1.85
ICH = 1.20

PCI-e frequency = 115
Performance mode = Turbo

The PC is a E6700 W/C (eheim 1250-triple radiator with 3 12cm fans Cuper bloc by Eleven)
Memory : Super Talent DDR2-800(2X1GB T800UX2GC4 CL 4-4-3-8
P5W-DH Dlx rev 1.0
Enermax Noise Taker 600W
3 SATA (2 WD raptor 74GB RAID 0 on Intel) and one Maxtor Maxline III NCQ 300GB

The highest fsb that I can go is 420 ONLY from Windows with SetFSB tool
From BIOS 1909 3650 not stable
Whyyyyyyyyyyy???? 



PS. - 1 hour memtest Nr 5 at 900MHz memory with no errors (from boot CD)
-Temp idle
in Speedfan 30 C
with Core Temp Beta 0.94 50 C ?????
The correct tmp is?????????

-what are the settings for :
Peg Buffer Length
Link Latency
PEG Root Control
PEG Link Mode
Slot Power

Any suggestions????? Regarding mainly FSB

I already replace the thermal compount with AS5 and lapping heat sinks


Where did you learn about overclock? Try to low all of your voltages.

[Scoop]

I got 2 x 320 Segate 7200.10 in RAID 0 and i'm only getting 60MB/s Read. I'm on the Intel ICHR7 controller. Bios is 1901. What could be going wrong ?

[nicepun]

I'm frustrated and upset over the incompatibility with 1066mhz memory and the intel 975 chipset, so I'm about to order some 800mhz stuff.

To tell you the truth I can't remember how I got below results awhile back.

http://img289.imageshack.us/img289/4999/1200mhzhu7.th.jpg (http://img289.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1200mhzhu7.jpg)

[Iannis]

Where did you learn about overclock? Try to low all of your voltages.


Have U a good guide for this mobo???

I think 6600 is beter CPU for OC than 6700

[krat]

Scoop,
I have no idea why it's that slow on your side. I got the same drives here and they work fine with a decent speed.

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/6189/hdtachxz1.jpg

[chron]

What is officially the most stable bios for this motherboard? If I'm running an e6600 and some ddr2-800 and plan on sticking with vista, what bios will give me stability and performance?

[iadstudio]

Have U a good guide for this mobo???

I think 6600 is beter CPU for OC than 6700

Those voltages are definately high. Are you getting a bad vdroop? I had to really volt my cpu to get it stable before I did a vdroop pencil mod. Now I'm stable at 3.55 with 1.55v in bios. I lowered my clock to 340 for now because I moved the case and temps aren't that great (60ish load).

One suggestion is to drop the turbo.

[Iannis]

Those voltages are definately high. Are you getting a bad vdroop? I had to really volt my cpu to get it stable before I did a vdroop pencil mod. Now I'm stable at 3.55 with 1.55v in bios. I lowered my clock to 340 for now because I moved the case and temps aren't that great (60ish load).

One suggestion is to drop the turbo.


When I 'm in 100% cpu load (Folding) I have Vdrop from 1.6125 in the bios to 1.57 (speed fan reading)
ASUS PERMANENT DISEASE -VDROP :mad: :mad: :mad:

[OneyedK]

When I 'm in 100% cpu load (Folding) I have Vdrop from 1.6125 in the bios to 1.57 (speed fan reading)
ASUS PERMANENT DISEASE -VDROP :mad: :mad: :mad:

Vdroop of less than 100mV is not a problem.
You have only 41mV, according to Speedfan, measure again with a DMM and you will notice it's even less.

If you take away the droop (vdroop mod agressively tuned) you'll get a heavy increase of PWM-noise and worse overclocking results.
You'll notice that top-OC-people take care of the filter caps to avoid that...
So a vdroop mod might help, but don't push it, leave a little droop as it's part of the regulation circuit.

The voltage regulator of the P5W DH is limited to 1.60V (specs :fact:), better to lift that up with a vcore mod and leave the droop alone.
But if you're on air, 1.60 is already over the safe side for 24/7 use, imho...

And, btw, what you call a permanent disease is actually on Doctor Intel's prescription (check the datasheet of your cpu);-)
Those doctors invented the term "droop"...

[monza1412]

What is officially the most stable bios for this motherboard? If I'm running an e6600 and some ddr2-800 and plan on sticking with vista, what bios will give me stability and performance?



1707 or 1901, performance is the same, I didnt have any stability problems

[yenclas]

I got 2 x 320 Segate 7200.10 in RAID 0 and i'm only getting 60MB/s Read. I'm on the Intel ICHR7 controller. Bios is 1901. What could be going wrong ?

Do you have firmware 3.AAJ in these HD's ?

[nickfd]

Have you tried memtest in other divider??, I mean 1:1... I was indeed surprised when you said that 4:5 was working. I´ve a pair of D9 rated at 1000 and the only way they work passed the 350 fsb barrier its 1:1.
Its a trc/trfd thing.



read this thread for more info:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=112776&highlight=eva2000

The thread is pretty interesting, but it shows already what I know.. Getting over 1000mhz fsb is really difficult. OP in that thread used 2:3 with lower base fsb to do higher clocks in mem, then later went up to 1066mhz mem.. Super Pi @9x355fsb = 3200Mhz 2:3 533mhz 4-4-4-12 at 2.4v
32M Single = 15min 20.453s
32M Dual = 16min 36.657s / 16min 33.500s

So looks like for Super Pi v1.50 32M at least I've managed to get 2x1GB Gskill PC6400PHU2 2GBHZ Micron D9GMH to 533mhz 4-4-4-12 at 2.4v.

CPUZ Validation:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=114620


What's strange is that I got home from work last night, changed dual dimm positions (was in the two orange slots and moved to the two black slots), and it worked. I have no problems in 4:5 and 1:1 now.

When I did my memtest'ing yesterday, it was in every memory mode that I had problems; 1:1, 4:5, standard, and overclocked. Like literally memtest86 was spitting out errors thousands by the second.

I'm going to try and debug this later today to see if it is in fact memory, or maybe the dimmslots on the board. Whatever it may be, I'm happy I ordered the other memory and hope that I'll be able to sell this corsair stuff. :)

[Mr.X]

Another problem I'm having is that most of the times when I reboot it results in an overclocking failure. Is this normal?

[OneyedK]

Another problem I'm having is that most of the times when I reboot it results in an overclocking failure. Is this normal?

Nopez, that's not normal...

Maybe you left something in bios on auto
or one of the voltages you chose (vcore, vmch, vmem, vich)
is a little too low...

[mikepaul]

Maybe you left something in bios on auto
or one of the voltages you chose (vcore, vmch, vmem, vich)
is a little too low...
Perhaps a lowly E6300 is 'special' (or maybe Week 25 is great), but I'm using AUTO on vCore and have no issues whatsoever @2.87Ghz. Other values like vMCH are higher, though. "Trial and error" is the only real way to find out what works, but not changing something after every failure seems bad...

[Mr.X]

400mhz x 8 = 3200Mhz
1:1 mem

vcore 1.35v
Vmch 1.55v
Vich 1.05v
Vdimm 1.9v
FSB termination: Auto

Should I change Vich and/or FSB ter. settings? I haven't messed with those much because I'm not sure what they do.

[Gig4moller]

I have Vich on 1.20 and vFSB on 1.40 myself. Working perfectly on a 9x356 (3.2ghz) OC. :)

[monza1412]

400mhz x 8 = 3200Mhz
1:1 mem

vcore 1.35v
Vmch 1.55v
Vich 1.05v
Vdimm 1.9v
FSB termination: Auto

Should I change Vich and/or FSB ter. settings? I haven't messed with those much because I'm not sure what they do.

Try this:
Vmch-1.6/1.65 depends of your motherboard revision
and if is still unstable try raising fsb termination- 1.4/1.5

That should work

[OneyedK]

400mhz x 8 = 3200Mhz
1:1 mem

vcore 1.35v
Vmch 1.55v
Vich 1.05v
Vdimm 1.9v
FSB termination: Auto

Should I change Vich and/or FSB ter. settings? I haven't messed with those much because I'm not sure what they do.

imho, most settings are fine...

maybe vcore is a tad low, 1.375V could be enough
and give the OCZ's 2.2V, that's what they ask for
FSB termination voltage of 1.20V is enough, never needed more, not even @ 440MHz (but it depends on you cpu, so higher could be better, not with my E6400)
vmch and vich are perfect in my opinion (no need to overheat those chips)
higher is not always better for stability

[clee]

...... I was indeed surprised when you said that 4:5 was working. I´ve a pair of D9 rated at 1000 and the only way they work passed the 350 fsb barrier its 1:1.
Its a trc/trfd thing.

What revision is your P5w ? Mine was working all the way up to 400 with 4:5 divider ( ddr1000) with VMCH=1.85. I've already tried it with G.Skill 8000 ZX ( D9GKX ) and Mushkin Redline ( D9GMH ) and both passed dual instances of S-Pi 32M. But whether it's Orthos stable or not, that I don't really know.
I'm runnin' my E6600 @ 420 and my board won't even post at all other than 1:1.
But I agree with you that the lack of trc/trfd control really hindering this board for memory performance.

[RTShaw]

i've never seen this one.
i was wondering why my gigabit network slowed down, looked at the local area connect icons (i havethe 2nd nic turned off) but the icon on the first nic shows what seems like a share hand at the bottom left. it had the network running at 100mbps insted of 1 gig.. looked back at status i was back at 1 ghz. i have never seen this before and dont even know what 2 put in to search forthis wierd thing. anyone seen this before and if so what the hell is it & how do i turn it off?

thank u

[monza1412]

What revision is your P5w ? Mine was working all the way up to 400 with 4:5 divider ( ddr1000) with VMCH=1.85. I've already tried it with G.Skill 8000 ZX ( D9GKX ) and Mushkin Redline ( D9GMH ) and both passed dual instances of S-Pi 32M. But whether it's Orthos stable or not, that I don't really know.
I'm runnin' my E6600 @ 420 and my board won't even post at all other than 1:1.
But I agree with you that the lack of trc/trfd control really hindering this board for memory performance.



Mine is 1.03 version (1.85v). Please list your memory timings and your voltages settings (Vmch,Vfsb,Vmem)

I ve tried fsb 400/ mem 1000------No boot
fsb 400/ mem 1067------No boot

[clee]

Mine is 1.03 version (1.85v). Please list your memory timings and your voltages settings (Vmch,Vfsb,Vmem)

I ve tried fsb 400/ mem 1000------No boot
fsb 400/ mem 1067------No boot


Performance mode=auto
vFSB=1.3
vMCH=1.85
vICH=auto
vDIMM=2.3v
timings shown in screencap. I just did a quick S_pi test as I'm about heading out to work.

I responded to your post because you said you had problem reaching > 350 fsb in 4:5 even with pc8000 D9s, that really puzzles me. Perhaps it's related to the memory internal timing optimization, but it's just a wild guess to get off my chest.
My other G.Skill pair with "supposingly better" D9GKX chips needs higher voltage (2.4v) and more relaxed timing 5-5-5-15 to reach ddr1000 in 4:5.

http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/7/2/22/f_ratiom_eea9310.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?srv=img01&img=/7/2/22/f_ratiom_eea9310.jpg)

[MakenValborg]

@clee :

you think is possible for me to obtain the same result with my ram and mobo?

mine is rev 1.02... (1.65 v).. or norbridge low voltage is a limit?

Ps.: my ram are D9 surely stable @ 925 mhz 4 4 4 8 2.2v.. ( more I havent try..)

I tried yesterday but nope...:( ( 2,4 v 4 4 4 10 & 5 5 5 15.. )

Tanks

[Zeus]

My guess is that's i't's the rather high Vmch that allows you to run 4:5 at 400 FSB.

It's simply not possible on my board either, no boot with 400FSB/DDR 1000 set in bios, not even with 1.65Vmch and 2.35Vdimm 4-4-4.

[kadinho]

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/400/mems1050xx3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

WITH BIOS 1901 :toast:

[Bail_w]

I am having problems trying to install Raid0 using Intel Matrix Storage Manager.

These are the following steps i done.
1. Enable Raid in bios
2. Ctrl+I to create a new raid
3. F6 durning the begining of installing window xp
4. For some reason it was unable to find my USB floppy disk
5. If i try to skip installing the Intel Matrix Storage Manager (F6) during the window xp setup, there will be blue screen.

Inputs please.

[MakenValborg]

My guess is that's i't's the rather high Vmch that allows you to run 4:5 at 400 FSB.

It's simply not possible on my board either, no boot with 400FSB/DDR 1000 set in bios, not even with 1.65Vmch and 2.35Vdimm 4-4-4.

and I guess you're right.
I've tried Pencil Mod on V-mch But i don't have tried 4:5 i only searched the max stable fsb 438 in sig whit a real voltage of 1,6 v. ( whitout vmod drop's up to 0,1...)
Now i've burned my mobo misuring whit multimeter :( ...
Warranty bring to me a new mobo, but the revision is te same of the first :eek: :rolleyes:

[Zeus]

Kadinho,

Could you tell us your voltages and settings in bios please?

Is it bios 1901 that allows this only?

[BenchZowner]

I am having problems trying to install Raid0 using Intel Matrix Storage Manager.

These are the following steps i done.
1. Enable Raid in bios
2. Ctrl+I to create a new raid
3. F6 durning the begining of installing window xp
4. For some reason it was unable to find my USB floppy disk
5. If i try to skip installing the Intel Matrix Storage Manager (F6) during the window xp setup, there will be blue screen.

Inputs please.

Get a internal FDD off a friend, or integrate the latest Matrix Storage Drivers on your Windows disc with nLite :)

[kadinho]

Kadinho,

Could you tell us your voltages and settings in bios please?

Is it bios 1901 that allows this only?

vmem = 2.2v , vcore = 1.4 ... Im not sure that 1901 bios do this but help. main settings are auto, and timings 5-5-5-15. tonight i will put all my setting here.

Sorry my english

:D

EDIT:

C2D E6600 L624 @ 1.4v 3240
ASUS P5WDH DLX bios 1901
GSKILL HZ PC6400 @ PC8500
2*250GB WD2500YD RAID0
SAPPHIRE X1800GTO2 @ GTX
SB X-FI GAMER

[Zeus]

vmem = 2.2v , vcore = 1.4 ... Im not sure that 1901 bios do this but help. main settings are auto, and timings 5-5-5-15. tonight i will put all my setting here.

Sorry my english

:D

EDIT:

C2D E6600 L624 @ 1.4v 3240
ASUS P5WDH DLX bios 1901
GSKILL HZ PC6400 @ PC8500
2*250GB WD2500YD RAID0
SAPPHIRE X1800GTO2 @ GTX
SB X-FI GAMER


But, what's much more important, how much Vmch?

[monza1412]

Could you tell us your voltages and settings in bios please?

Is it bios 1901 that allows this only?

here are mine:

vcore-1.2250
vmem-2.2
vmch-auto
vfsb-1.5
vihc-auto
bios-1707

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/8747/orthosfd8.th.jpg (http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=orthosfd8.jpg)


you will ask about the high vfsb, I´ve tested with lower voltages and I got errors in orthos right after I start it, the only way to solve them was giving more juice to the vmch (1.55 -1.65).
but I choose to running this way (high vfsb & default vmch)

[d.chatten]

Has anyone else got an issue booting from USB drives with bios 1901, i have five USB pen drives and when i updated to bios 1901 i could no longer boot from any of my USB pen drives, all i get is a message on the screen saying "Missing Operating System", if i go back to any bios previous to 1901 i can then boot from USB.

Also with 1901 i can't use the "ASUS Crash Free" feature (Alt + F2) to recover the bios, it doesn't detect any CD ROM it just goes in to a loop saying that it's looking for CD/Floppy or USB, when i use a USB pen drive it finds the bios file (P5WDH.ROM) and says it's reading the file, but then it just sits there doing nothing.

Has anyone else had any of these issues with bios 1901 or am i the only one?

Thanks!

[shaithis]

So, even with the newer BIOS, no one has managed to use all the SATA ports as stand-alone units?

Connecting drives to the orange ports for me results in the system locking up within 10 seconds of POST completing......and i am not seeing any JBOD options anywhere....

Any help would be appreciated :)

[monza1412]

So, even with the newer BIOS, no one has managed to use all the SATA ports as stand-alone units?

Connecting drives to the orange ports for me results in the system locking up within 10 seconds of POST completing......and i am not seeing any JBOD options anywhere....

Any help would be appreciated :)



did you remove both jumpers of the ez raid?

[Rob Halford]

[QUOTE=Iannis]Hi Guys

With BIOS 1506 boot at 385 FSB max
With 1707 at 370 and
With 1901 at 365 not stable

With the same setting:
Vcore = 1.6125
Vmem = 2.4
FSB = 1.5
MCH = 1.85
ICH = 1.20

PCI-e frequency = 115
Performance mode = Turbo

The highest fsb that I can go is 420 ONLY from Windows with SetFSB tool
From BIOS 1909 3650 not stable
Whyyyyyyyyyyy????/QUOTE]

Have same experience as you, my friend, and will probably revert back to BIOS 1506 or 1601 which seems to be the most OC friendly one's from my point of view. Also noted that with 1901 I usually get BSOD as of 1000 MHz on my G.Skills with 4-4-4-4 and are now forced to run at 4-4-4-5. All settings equal...

With regard to suggestions you can try reducing PCI-e to 101 and set Performance mode to standard. Apart from that there is not really much to say except the following; DONT EVER BUY THIS PILE OF CRAP! :nono:

[MakenValborg]

[QUOTE=Iannis]Hi Guys

With BIOS 1506 boot at 385 FSB max
With 1707 at 370 and
With 1901 at 365 not stable

With the same setting:
Vcore = 1.6125
Vmem = 2.4
FSB = 1.5
MCH = 1.85
ICH = 1.20

PCI-e frequency = 115
Performance mode = Turbo

The highest fsb that I can go is 420 ONLY from Windows with SetFSB tool
From BIOS 1909 3650 not stable
Whyyyyyyyyyyy????/QUOTE]

Have same experience as you, my friend, and will probably revert back to BIOS 1506 or 1601 which seems to be the most OC friendly one's from my point of view. Also noted that with 1901 I usually get BSOD as of 1000 MHz on my G.Skills with 4-4-4-4 and are now forced to run at 4-4-4-5. All settings equal...

With regard to suggestions you can try reducing PCI-e to 101 and set Performance mode to standard. Apart from that there is not really much to say except the following; DONT EVER BUY THIS PILE OF CRAP! :nono:


Stupid question (mine) but: did you disabled Yperpath 3 right??

hei.. whait a min.. you are using the Qx in sign?

[Rob Halford]

[QUOTE=Rob Halford]


Stupid question (mine) but: did you disabled Yperpath 3 right??

hei.. whait a min.. you are using the Qx in sign?

There is no such thing as a stupid question, in my opinion, and I still regard myself a NOOB in every aspect and situation available. I have disabled Hyperpath and followed every advice in this thread (and similar threads) and experimented with new settings. But in my experience, the later BIOS's are less FSB friendly all settings equal. That's just the way things are over here too...

[clee]

@clee :

you think is possible for me to obtain the same result with my ram and mobo?

mine is rev 1.02... (1.65 v).. or norbridge low voltage is a limit?


Yeah, you do need high Vmch, but you did the volt mod already right ?
Anyway, you are runnin' your e6400 @ 438FSB , why bother with 400FSB and 4:5 ?? If you meant to run the memory @ ddr 1100 on 438FSB, that's gonna be tough. I'd be balling my eyes out if you could do that. If my memory serves me well, the best I could do was ddr1030 (412FSB ) even with top rated D9 sticks.



But, what's much more important, how much Vmch?

He's using a 2:3 divider on 350FSB to hit ddr1000+. I don't think it needs much VMCH for that.
It starts getting tricky when approaching 400FSB.
My own observation shows vmch=1.65 is adequate for up to about 380 ( i.e. ddr950 ), 1.75 pushes just a bit more, but still not enough for ddr1000.
Actually I was under the impression that vmch=1.85 plus pc8000 D9 memory would warrant DDR1000+ at 400FSB+, but judging from monza's post, I guess I was wrong.

[MakenValborg]

[QUOTE=MakenValborg]

There is no such thing as a stupid question, in my opinion, and I still regard myself a NOOB in every aspect and situation available. I have disabled Hyperpath and followed every advice in this thread (and similar threads) and experimented with new settings. But in my experience, the later BIOS's are less FSB friendly all settings equal. That's just the way things are over here too...

Hey!! Whait a minute ther is a Mistake:
Sorry for my poor english :( i'm saing that mine ( my ) was a stupid question... because everyone know that "Yperpath3" need to be disabled.. you got it? :)

aniway if you are using a QX ( Quad core ) the Fsb you are hitting with tis mobo is good, if you want higer fsb P5b deluxe or commando ( all the intel 965 ) are the choice:)
Or you can try whit vmch mod.

[MakenValborg]

Yeah, you do need high Vmch, but you did the volt mod already right ?
Anyway, you are runnin' your e6400 @ 438FSB , why bother with 400FSB and 4:5 ?? If you meant to run the memory @ ddr 1100 on 438FSB, that's gonna be tough. I'd be balling my eyes out if you could do that. If my memory serves me well, the best I could do was ddr1030 (412FSB ) even with top rated D9 sticks.


thanks for response:)

I've hitting the 438 FSB @ 1:1 whit my death mobo ( vmch pencil mod ) but I don't have tried 4:5 @ 400 mhz fsb whit Her...

Now the new one isn't modded and is stable @ 420mhz 1:1...and I've advised that 400 fsb 4:5 ram isn't possible..
obviously vmod coming soon;)

Aniway mine was just curiosity, because a Xeon 3060 is cooming soon :)

[Family man 72]

9x390 mem 1:1 is max for me. The board rev is 1.02 and NB is watercooled. Tried 9x395, but prime rebooted after two hours. Increasing vcore didn't help. Now I'm trying to stabilize mem 4:5. This is with bios 1707.

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7849/prime9x390vcore1475to5.gif

Settings:

vcore 1.475
vmem 2.2
vfsb 1.4
vmch 1.65 (board's max)
vich auto

[Zeus]

He's using a 2:3 divider on 350FSB to hit ddr1000+. I don't think it needs much VMCH for that.
It starts getting tricky when approaching 400FSB.
My own observation shows vmch=1.65 is adequate for up to about 380 ( i.e. ddr950 ), 1.75 pushes just a bit more, but still not enough for ddr1000.
Actually I was under the impression that vmch=1.85 plus pc8000 D9 memory would warrant DDR1000+ at 400FSB+, but judging from monza's post, I guess I was wrong.

Running async seems to put more strain on the NB hence the Vmch question.
I can run up to 9x 430 1:1 100% stable but 9x400 with 4:5 divider won't even boot.
I have a gut feeling that higher Vmch will help.

For 400 FSB i'm using 1.55Vmch, that's fully stable.

This board keeps puzzling me.

[nickfd]

Hey all,

I got my new g.skill pc2-6400c4's and ran a bunch of superpi tests last night with both 1:1 and 4:5 using both the g.skill 6400's and the corsair pc2-8500c5's (at 4-4-4-12) with the maximum fsb's I could handle.

I'll include screenshots of some cpu-z's and my superpi scores, but I was surprised that there was really only tenth of seconds differences between them at similar clocks. Unfortunately I wasn't able to reach any higher stable clocks than ~384fsb in both 1:1 and 4:5 (~975mhz mem) at 4-4-4-12 6-28. So I guess since I've ruled out memory and northbridge (since I got the thermaltake extreme spirit 2), it must be my pos cpu. :)

What surprises me though is that I get better overall performance at 4:5 at a slightly lower clock than I would at 1:1. I thought that 1:1 was supposed to be the best? Either way, I'm content now.

I honestly don't know what happened to my corsair pc2-8500c5's to cause them to flip out on Monday because they're working perfectly now in either set of dimm slots on the motherboard. I gave it 20 minutes in memtest86 with no errors, where the one time last week it would scroll thousands of errors per second.

Anyone want to buy a month old set of corsair pc2-8500c5's from me, only slightly used, and in perfect working order? I can take pics of successful memtest and show my highest clocks in both 1:1 and 4:5. :) Please send PM.

I'll post pics and stats and stuff in another thread outside this one since these dimms are a bit finicky with this board and would work much better in an nvidia 680 or rd600 board.

[monza1412]

Running async seems to put more strain on the NB hence the Vmch question.
I can run up to 9x 430 1:1 100% stable but 9x400 with 4:5 divider won't even boot.
I have a gut feeling that higher Vmch will help.


you´re right

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1681867&postcount=33

But it depends of other factors as well

[jikkyboy11]

Anyone have any other ideas on why my dl speed is slowwwww? Should I RMA the board? Should I get a different brand? please help

[arrakys]

hello all,

ok, i ve not been on that topic for a while, ad i got a couple of questions :

- is it better to use 1:1 synchro FSB/DRAM or not ?
- what is the behavior of the P5WDH when using 4 sticks of ram ?

Before i was using 2x1Gb of Gksill PK with the following config. :
fsb 402 / Vdram 2.0v / 1.65 / 1.20 / 1.30 / RAM at 1:1 4-4-4-12

I just added one more Gb (2x512Mb) of the same PK serie.
System will post, but i get memory errors. When using RAM at lower speed (301Mhz) but still with FSb at 402Mhz, i still got errors.

I tried the sticks individually, all is ok.
I tried a fsb of 375Mhz with a ratio of 1:1, all seems to be ok.
Mobo won't get high fsb with synchro RAMs ?

[cadaveca]

4gb requires more chipset voltage(MCH) than 2gb, and hence your errors.