ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

[lawrywild]

Hopefully a P5W DH owner could answer this for me. Can the board support 6 SATA drives *without* using RAID? I'm concerned about the 2 orange SATA ports which are used for the 'EZBackup' feature. Will those two ports also allow for just regular SATA useage?

Nope I tried using them both as normal sata but board wouldn't POST properly with a drive in the left port. If you remove the ez-raid jumpers you can use ther right orange port as Port 1 on the ICH7R which is what I'm doing, and 3 more drives on the other ICH ports. I'm just not using one of my 200gb atm because of it. There is the Jmicron one but you need to enable that in bios and get the bootrom screen every boot and also trail a long sata cable around my case to get to it..

[lawrywild]

What was the tRFC value one should have now again?

Well if you can't boot manual timings then you want 42

PS: can't you use the search

[Gascogne]

Well if you can't boot manual timings then you want 42

PS: can't you use the search

Thank you and no sorry I didn't know there was a search button for the thread but now I know. :)

[brock01]

Current setup
2 raid0 on ez-backup-boot drives
2 non-raid drives on ICH7R
and 2 on the pata
On the P5W DH DELUXE, i have these 2 (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...ode=101220-12&)
in Raid0 on the ez-backup ports, how much difference would i get if i moved them to the ICH7R, considering the recent improvements for the drivers.
also if i would move those 2 drives on the ICH7R ports, i have a partition on the raid0 drives now, would i lose that partition when moving as well?i know i gotta reinstall windows,and use the intel drivers. also i have 2 other sata drives Nonraid, if i leave one of them plugged in the ICH7R ports, and unplugged all the jumpers for the ez-backup,putting one of the non-raid drivers and put it into the ez-backup ports, would i lose what i had on the nonraid that would be on the ez-raid?

im sorry if this is confusing, please let me know if i left any details out that you guys might need to give best adivce

Thanks, a ton
Brock01

[BenchZowner]

Current setup
2 raid0 on ez-backup-boot drives
2 non-raid drives on ICH7R
and 2 on the pata
On the P5W DH DELUXE, i have these 2 (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...ode=101220-12&)
in Raid0 on the ez-backup ports, how much difference would i get if i moved them to the ICH7R, considering the recent improvements for the drivers.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1883874&postcount=13

[bichi]

Hopefully a P5W DH owner could answer this for me. Can the board support 6 SATA drives *without* using RAID? I'm concerned about the 2 orange SATA ports which are used for the 'EZBackup' feature. Will those two ports also allow for just regular SATA useage?


Normal Configuration, with Sil4723 in RAID 0:

ICH7R:
SATA 1 (red) = boot drive
SATA 3 (blk) = data
SATA 4 (blk) = data

Sil4723
EzRAID 1 (org) = RAID 0 (drive 1)
EzRAID 2 (org) = RAID 0 (drive 2)

JMicron363
SATA RAID 1 (blk) = data

PATA = (not used)

Reading Silicon Image 4723 datasheet and seeing this:
"...4) JBOD or Port Multiplier—this allows the direct attached PC/Server to see each drive as single drives (PM mode requires a host that is PM-aware.)..."

- appears P5WDH RAID_SEL jumpers allow RAID1, BIG, RAID0, but no "JBOD"
- pulled all jumpers in hopes it might be the mysterious "JBOD" function
- had to use Seagate HD tools to write "zeros" to clear MBRs for two 7200.10 400G previously used for RAID0
- regardless of jumper configurations, I can only get one port (EzRAID 1) to act as a non-RAID drive

Makes sense, since the Sil4723 is connected to one ICH7R lane (2nd) and is acting as an extension.
It appears the host ICH7R is not capable of "Port-Multiplier" mode or PM mode cannot be set properly via MB jumpers.

Five Drive Configuration, non-RAID: (RAID_SEL jumpers removed)

ICH7R:
SATA 1 (red) = boot drive
SATA 3 (blk) = data
SATA 4 (blk) = data

Sil4723
EzRAID 1 (org) = data
EzRAID 2 (org) = (refuses to be recognised)
* note: if two drives are electrically connected to EzRAID ports in "non-RAID" mode, access to the recognized drive appears to be "sluggish."

JMicron363
SATA RAID 1 (blk) = data

PATA = (not used)

[jvinsepa]

I submitted a tech support ticket to ASUS regarding the shutdown/reboot issue, where the machine turns off, but then turn on again a second later - forcing you to hold in the button.

It is annoying, but I only turn it off at night. I just can't set my pc to turn off after a long encoding session or whatever... or it will just turn itself back on.

I checked the USB and wake-up events, and neither one is the problem.

When I called ASUS, they pointed me to an ACPI driver on the website, but it seems that driver is only for Win2000.

[RTShaw]

of course this doesnt answer the question but i've tested both the 2 port Sata Sil pcie card
and now Bytecs jmicron 363 actually ) 2 internal sata ii ports, 2 esata ports and 1 ide pata internal port $39 buxs newegg. dig this, was screwing around with it cause the embedded mobo jmicron port (ide) worked 4 some but not others.. well once i updated the software to current even that port works). Eidently when these are advertsed as Raid, u can force them into non Raid modes 2 (dep on drivers used if u can find em).. So some of u still out there like myself who couldnt update cause u get bluer screens andthe like. have 2 resort to updating the intel matrix driver then the jmicron, and on and on. or delete the partition (move it) before rebuilding all yer stuff otherwise u do get that blue kiss of death screen)..al this is if u r rebuilding but still have the past os installed..

[Pluppo]

Well if you can't boot manual timings then you want 42

PS: can't you use the search

I've been trying to use memset 3.0 to change my memory timings, and I can't get it to run at it's rated 4-4-4-12 timings. tRFC is already 42 in memset when I load it up. I have tried setting it to 63 and also changed tRD form 7 to 8. But when I try to change tCL from 5 to 4 after that, the PC reboots.

Maybe someone knows of some other timings I could try changing to make this work?

[lawrywild]

I've been trying to use memset 3.0 to change my memory timings, and I can't get it to run at it's rated 4-4-4-12 timings. tRFC is already 42 in memset when I load it up. I have tried setting it to 63 and also changed tRD form 7 to 8. But when I try to change tCL from 5 to 4 after that, the PC reboots.

Maybe someone knows of some other timings I could try changing to make this work?

You cannot set cas latency (tCL) on-the-fly, so your pc will crash. You must set it in bios

[lawrywild]

Reading Silicon Image 4723 datasheet and seeing this:
"...4) JBOD or Port Multiplier—this allows the direct attached PC/Server to see each drive as single drives (PM mode requires a host that is PM-aware.)..."

- appears P5WDH RAID_SEL jumpers allow RAID1, BIG, RAID0, but no "JBOD"
- pulled all jumpers in hopes it might be the mysterious "JBOD" function
- had to use Seagate HD tools to write "zeros" to clear MBRs for two 7200.10 400G previously used for RAID0
- regardless of jumper configurations, I can only get one port (EzRAID 1) to act as a non-RAID drive

interesting, perhaps another jumper configuration could enable it

Maybe have all 3 jumpers connected, but sounds kinda risky :nono: i.e. not worth trying it

[MrDisco]

Normal Configuration, with Sil4723 in RAID 0:


WOW! Thank you so much for the very detailed post (wish all my questions were answered in this manner :P). Ultimately it appears the P5W can only support a max of 5 SATA drives in a non-raid configuration. Guess I'll return this board and get the BadAxe2 which I believe can support 8 SATA non-raid drives.

Man I thought I did my research but none of the reviews or user comments mentioned this.

edit: as an aside, I noticed you have the AC Pro cooler installed. How do you find it? Is the fan noisy or pretty quiet?

[bichi]

Maybe have all 3 jumpers connected, but sounds kinda risky :nono: i.e. not worth trying it

- if you look at the jumpers, the center pair have a pin missing, so we've done all the jumper combos, LawryWild.....

edit: as an aside, I noticed you have the AC Pro cooler installed. How do you find it? Is the fan noisy or pretty quiet?

yep - quiet, reasonably priced, light and cools QX6700 @ 3.0 effectively, even with BIOS PWM feature off, where HSF fan is getting max volts...

[Severance]

This is the best ram i have tested on p5dh OCZ 2p8001gk pc6400. 2.3v
Asus p5dh deluxe
x6800 extreme
ati 1950xtx crossfire

[lawrywild]

- if you look at the jumpers, the center pair have a pin missing, so we've done all the jumper combos, LawryWild.....

Yeh but jumper pins are easily soldered on ;)

[Krusty]

I've got 6300 and Everest shows temperature of one core about 2 degree Celsius (4 degree Fahrenheits) less than the other one. I wonder, is it usual?

[lawrywild]

Yeh it's usual

[Xavier88]

WOW! Thank you so much for the very detailed post (wish all my questions were answered in this manner :P). Ultimately it appears the P5W can only support a max of 5 SATA drives in a non-raid configuration. Guess I'll return this board and get the BadAxe2 which I believe can support 8 SATA non-raid drives.


You can get away with a 6th in non-raid if you hook it up to the eSATA on the back. I've never tried it but it's another port that should be available.

[mikepaul]

Does eSATA work better than Firewire when you already have a lot of drive letters in use? I can't attach a Firewire drive to my main computer anymore because it never gets a drive letter. A USB drive still works though, and gets inserted in a gap between some permanent letters.. I guess it has no special rules about what letter is next.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817715002&ATT=17-715-002&CMP=OTC-Froogle looks looks like something to get for when a 1TB drive isn't a bank-breaker, but only if it's REALLY plug-and-play...

[fritzman]

eSATA should be way quicker than firewire. You are literally attaching another SATA drive directly to the board Vs firewire which is rated at only 400/800mbs at best.

Re the drive letters... if your firewire is getting confused (and I can't understand why it should be), you can always go into drive manager and give some of the less relevant drives different letters, like a Music drive "M" & a Videos drive "V". Could be worth a try.

[mikepaul]

Re the drive letters... if your firewire is getting confused (and I can't understand why it should be), you can always go into drive manager and give some of the less relevant drives different letters, like a Music drive "M" & a Videos drive "V". Could be worth a try.
It may be due to having a memory card reader with 5 drive letters, with a gap (don't know why) between my last hard drive and those, and the USB drive ends up in that gap. However it happened, when I plug in a Firewire drive (DVD or HD), nothing like a drive letter asignment happens to let me use it. There are a few letters after the reader, but I assumed Firewire didn't like to get high letters.

I could try moving the card reader drives down, though...

[fritzman]

It should automatically assign a letter... the next available one typically. I would move the card readers UP... Right-Click My Computer, left click Manage>Storage>Disk Management. You should be able to give the card-reader M/N/O/P/Q there which will free up all the ones after your real drives.

Hope that helps.

[Amigan]

Hi , i've a couple of questions about the p5w-dh.

Anyone tried some of that Crucial 10th Aniversary Memory ( micron d9 i'm told ) in the p5w-dh, can i use the manual timings or will i still suffer from the spd bug, that i have with this Geil.

There's a extra hard disk that appears in other operating systems , called Config Disk. Its related to the silicon image pos no matter what i do i cant disable it. It affects Linux / OSX / Acronis True Image / Partition Magic amongst others.

Thanks

Amigan.

[ashman]

I have three sata drives connected to the ICH7R connectors, but I am not booting to a sata drive but an IDE drive atm. I wan to add two 73G 10,000RPM sata drives on the EZ Backup connectors in RAID0 config and ultimately install my OS and boot to them, is this possible and easy to do?

AM

[NghtShd]

I have three sata drives connected to the ICH7R connectors, but I am not booting to a sata drive but an IDE drive atm. I wan to add two 73G 10,000RPM sata drives on the EZ Backup connectors in RAID0 config and ultimately install my OS and boot to them, is this possible and easy to do?

AM

Yes, but considering that you are going with 10k RPM drives in RAID 0 one would assume that you are interested in getting the best performance. If that is correct then the EZ-RAID is a bad choice because you are craming both drives into one of the ICH7R SATA II ports (what would be port 2) via the SIL4723. I think you may also lose NCQ using EZ-RAID. For best performance use the ICH7R directly.

[nickfd]

Hi all,

So as I mentioned before, I went through and purchased a Thermaltake Extreme 2 Northbridge cooler (copper block with integrated 40mm fan) and installed it on my board this past weekend. Everything was functioning fine until last night, when somehow one of the two clips holding the northbridge into the motherboard came off. I only noticed it when I looked in my case trying to figure out why my computer was crashing almost immediately after windows booted up.

I haven't cleaned the arctic silver off the northbridge yet to see if the chip is completely hosed, but I don't believe it is, since it is able to boot into windows before crashing (overheating?). However, I'm concerned because the hook came off and I'm unable to mount anything with only one hook.

I did take a photograph of the northbridge, and thankfully the hook that came off is in the clip 3 position, at the bottomright part of the board (next to the ram), which is only a mm or two from the existing screw. This makes it possible to engineer another solution, which I will look into as well.

I wanted to know a couple of things though:

1) Do the northbridge mounting holes go through all layers of PCB to the other end of the motherboard?

2) What is "anchoring" the hooks in place currently? I tried to do some elementary research on other, third-party, northbridge cooling products, and all seem to use the existing hooks, none explaining what to do in the dire case of one coming off.

3) If the hook that came off ends up being lost, does anyone know how I can acquire a new one, outside of manufacturing my own? I guess this is only applicable if the board is capable of modification to re-insert the hook.

Please advise.

[AlexG]

Recently flashed to latest BIOS, sorry don't have rev num, problem is vcore adjustments don't seem to stick past 1.4. I have it set to 1.45 in BIOS but all monitoring programs read it as 1.39/1.40 in windows. I chose not to reset cmos after flash, could this have anything to do with it.

ETA This is a new system, not sure what vcore was doing before flash.

This is on p5b d, cd 6600, ST 400 mem 2 x 1g.

[pancito]

This is on p5b d, cd 6600, ST 400 mem 2 x 1g.

Ahh P5B Dlx is that way :fact:

[bichi]

1) Do the northbridge mounting holes go through all layers of PCB to the other end of the motherboard?

2) What is "anchoring" the hooks in place currently? I tried to do some elementary research on other, third-party, northbridge cooling products, and all seem to use the existing hooks, none explaining what to do in the dire case of one coming off.

3) If the hook that came off ends up being lost, does anyone know how I can acquire a new one, outside of manufacturing my own? I guess this is only applicable if the board is capable of modification to re-insert the hook.

Please advise.

bummer, man
- hook-ends go thru the board (see attached pic)
- don't know where it broke on yours...
- hook completely pulled out or did the hook break?

Possible Repairs:
- assumes excellent soldering skills and tools
- drilling a hole is out, circuit traces on top-side are too close to hook holes
- desolder (if hook broke) stubs with proper tool (heating and pulling is risky, could pull the thru-via out)
- some used properly sized paperclip and "hooked" the ends, at the back and soldering the ends together

Reminds me of old Abit BE-6 hooks yanking off, back in 1996
- caused by poor soldering or poor quality solder
- hook material was plated and hook broke away, separating from plated material
- hook/hole diameter too small to take "upward pressure"
- third party NB clips created too much tension on hooks
- did my "preventative" repair with silver solder and hooking ends, as opposed to leaving them straight
- used teflon insulating washer around "hooked" ends

Good luck!

[ashman]

Yes, but considering that you are going with 10k RPM drives in RAID 0 one would assume that you are interested in getting the best performance. If that is correct then the EZ-RAID is a bad choice because you are craming both drives into one of the ICH7R SATA II ports (what would be port 2) via the SIL4723. I think you may also lose NCQ using EZ-RAID. For best performance use the ICH7R directly.


My other sata connectors are in use, other then getting rid of one or two of my sata drives, what else would you suggest? Can I move one or two of my sata drives to the EZ-RAID connectors and NOT run them in RAID mode?

AM

[fritzman]

Yeah man... that would make total sense. Give you the ICH7R connectors to play with for your O/S-App's Raid0 array.

[NghtShd]

Hi all,

So as I mentioned before, I went through and purchased a Thermaltake Extreme 2 Northbridge cooler (copper block with integrated 40mm fan) and installed it on my board this past weekend. Everything was functioning fine until last night, when somehow one of the two clips holding the northbridge into the motherboard came off. I only noticed it when I looked in my case trying to figure out why my computer was crashing almost immediately after windows booted up.

In addition to bichi's suggestions, if you don't want to solder I'd suggest something like JB Weld for reattaching the original or a replacement hook. There's also the option of making a warranty claim.

[NghtShd]

My other sata connectors are in use, other then getting rid of one or two of my sata drives, what else would you suggest? Can I move one or two of my sata drives to the EZ-RAID connectors and NOT run them in RAID mode?

AM

You can move one to an EZ port if you don't want RAID. If you move two then, as JBOD apparently doesn't, work you'll have to use RAID or 'big' mode. There is also an internal JMicron SATA port which you could use for a single drive. And you'll lose any data on any drive which gets changed from or to a RAID or big array.

[nickfd]

bummer, man
- hook-ends go thru the board (see attached pic)
- don't know where it broke on yours...
- hook completely pulled out or did the hook break?

Possible Repairs:
- assumes excellent soldering skills and tools
- drilling a hole is out, circuit traces on top-side are too close to hook holes
- desolder (if hook broke) stubs with proper tool (heating and pulling is risky, could pull the thru-via out)
- some used properly sized paperclip and "hooked" the ends, at the back and soldering the ends together

Reminds me of old Abit BE-6 hooks yanking off, back in 1996
- caused by poor soldering or poor quality solder
- hook material was plated and hook broke away, separating from plated material
- hook/hole diameter too small to take "upward pressure"
- third party NB clips created too much tension on hooks
- did my "preventative" repair with silver solder and hooking ends, as opposed to leaving them straight
- used teflon insulating washer around "hooked" ends

Good luck!

Hey Bichi,

Thanks a ton for the reply. It's exactly the kind of information I was looking for. Regarding my soldering skills, I have no doubt of my ability, since I've been able to mod dozens of various versions of the ps2 throughout the years. If anyone knows what I'm talking about, you'll understand the precision to be able to pull off this kind of work.

However, due the specifics of the picture, this is not the avenue I want to take. I think that this was a poor design on Asus's front, and am honestly surprised that more people have not run into it. Relying only on solder to hold the hook into place while requiring there be substancial pressure by the Northbridge cooler to place on the chipset for both cooling and booting, I think is pretty bad engineering.

What I will try to do (soon as I get some free time in the evening, thanks to last minute assignments from work), is fabricate a better solution, more than likely utilizing some sort of anchor (just like what you did to your board). The pins are extremely small, and yes, there are the traces to worry about next to them, so I'm not sure if coming up with something there would work, but I'll try. Even just having something that will go through the holes and right angle themselves at the bottom of the motherboard so they won't be just pulled right out would be good.

More than likely, I'm going to make a little bracket and hook it off the motherboard mounting screw right next to the hook area. The only crummy part of this is that when I'm going to want to remove my motherboard, the NB will have to come out and be cleaned, re-thermalled, and reapplied.

I'll take pics of what I end up doing and paste so you guys see. I know I'm pretty excited by the challenge and hope that I won't have to buy another 250$ motherboard.

Btw- I don't think I'm going to be able to send it in for warranty since I took off the original NB heatsink and cut the heatpipe next to where the MOSFETS sit. :)

Thanks again for the advice! Hope noone else will run into this problem!

[BAR*B*Q]

do all boards after sn 68xxx have 1,85 v on mch ?

i have a unopened 6Axxx here.

[monza1412]

do all boards after sn 68xxx have 1,85 v on mch ?

i have a unopened 6Axxx here.



that should be a 1.03 revision, made in china, and yes it should have 1.85v in mch

[BAR*B*Q]

that should be a 1.03 revision, made in china, and yes it should have 1.85v in mch


thx ;)

[topboy]

Can anyone tell me if this config is possible

2 drives on the Asus EZBackup ports in Raid 1 for boot drive with OS
3 drives on ICH7 in raid 5 OR Raid 0 for data

If so what are the settings for the jumpers and how fast/slow are the EZBackup ports

Thanks in advance

Topboy

[nicepun]

Hi guys, I just got a new mobo which is Rev 1.04G, anyone out there with the same Rev version? I'll be testing it out this weekend.

[VIctorj]

Guys...i have a question...ive noticed (im oceing right now) that after 35 minutes of orthos at 400x8 (1.4vcore) there is something in the mobo that starts making this really high pitched sound...is there anything i can do to stop this horrible whining? it really freaks me out.
Weird thing: the noise seems to stop when i switch from window to window...scroll or things like that(for a brief moment that is).

EDIT: The noise stopped...orthos keeps running... ^o) REALLY weird...it seems to be doing it the first 35 mins or something like that.

[iadstudio]

Can anyone tell me if this config is possible

2 drives on the Asus EZBackup ports in Raid 1 for boot drive with OS
3 drives on ICH7 in raid 5 OR Raid 0 for data

If so what are the settings for the jumpers and how fast/slow are the EZBackup ports

Thanks in advance

Topboy


Should be possible. I'll tell you what I did though. First, I have a backup on external firewire. On southbridge I have 2xWD 36gb RAID 0 and 1 250gb seagate. A second Seagate on EZ RAID and I cross configured RAID 0 for the seagate's. My OS is on the WD drives and MY Documents and all other files on the Seagates. If you want to cross configure with the EZ RAID ports just set the jumper like it tells you for RAID 10 and do what you will with the drives. It's true though that if you have 2 drives on EZ RAID they share one lane. That's why I have only one.

Maybe try to mirror your OS through the J micron controller? hmmm. :rolleyes:

[iadstudio]

Guys...i have a question...ive noticed (im oceing right now) that after 35 minutes of orthos at 400x8 (1.4vcore) there is something in the mobo that starts making this really high pitched sound...is there anything i can do to stop this horrible whining? it really freaks me out.
Weird thing: the noise seems to stop when i switch from window to window...scroll or things like that(for a brief moment that is).

EDIT: The noise stopped...orthos keeps running... ^o) REALLY weird...it seems to be doing it the first 35 mins or something like that.


Sounds like a fans gonna' die.

[Romano]

why i cannot use the memset, it always shows an eror message after restart....

[BenchZowner]

why i cannot use the memset, it always shows an eror message after restart....

Which version are you using ?

[VIctorj]

Sounds like a fans gonna' die.

Nop...not a fan.

[Romano]

@BenchZowner: Memset 3.0

[ketma]

I'll have the site ready tomorrow. and will I publish the related article and Asus's Tech Support evaluation results article.
Gonna publish the article on TheInquirer ( sigh ) aswell :D
Hopefully that'll grab Asus's attention.
Else, I will grab the details of a high ranked Asus employee ( with the help of my friends in the industry :D ) and will have a chat with him.

Hi BenchZowner,

Did you get anywhere with this?

Cheers.

[OneyedK]

Guys...i have a question...ive noticed (im oceing right now) that after 35 minutes of orthos at 400x8 (1.4vcore) there is something in the mobo that starts making this really high pitched sound...is there anything i can do to stop this horrible whining? it really freaks me out.
Weird thing: the noise seems to stop when i switch from window to window...scroll or things like that(for a brief moment that is).

EDIT: The noise stopped...orthos keeps running... ^o) REALLY weird...it seems to be doing it the first 35 mins or something like that.

It's not the motherboard, is your graphics card...
Just take a closer look with your ears ;)

[nickfd]

Can anyone tell me if this config is possible

2 drives on the Asus EZBackup ports in Raid 1 for boot drive with OS
3 drives on ICH7 in raid 5 OR Raid 0 for data

If so what are the settings for the jumpers and how fast/slow are the EZBackup ports

Thanks in advance

Topboy

Hi Topboy,

No, this is not possible. The EZ-Raid ports are kind of integrated with the ICH7 chipset, so if you were to turn on RAID or AHCI on the ICH7, you won't be able to use the EZ-Raid for a RAID.

There is a good thread on the normal asus forums regarding exactly how the ez-raid/jmicron/ich7 works, what you're capable of doing, and the recommendations. I was thinking of doing something similar, since I have two 74gb raptors in raid0 on the ez-raid ports, and wanted to do a raid5 on the ich7. However, soon as I try and turn on AHCI or RAID for the ICH7, I'm unable to boot, and evenmoreso, it won't even recognize the array.

Best bet is to stay away from the ez-raid. There are many posts showing how slow it is compared to the other ports using the ICH7 chipset. Mostly, you have a i/o bandwidth issue, because those two ez-raid ports share one 300mb/sec sata2 channel. A little more effort in the beginning with loading your OS with the f6 floppy containing the intel raid drivers will go a long way in performance.

Best of luck!

[yobi]

ICH7 is the best for raid !
If you remove both EZ jumpers you can use the right EZ-Backup port as the 4th ICH7 port

welcom for all. yobi

[BenchZowner]

Hi BenchZowner,

Did you get anywhere with this?

Cheers.

I suffered from a machine loss ( server ) and I had to work a lot to restore the files.
Thus I had to re-code some php pages for my site so I can get it back online this week.

I will be hitting up Asus by next week though :)
I'll update when I've got news.

[J33pG33k]

Hi guys, I just got a new mobo which is Rev 1.04G, anyone out there with the same Rev version? I'll be testing it out this weekend.
My 1.02G (A channel memory bank defective) was just replaced with a 1.04G. I probably won't get to it until next week. I'll be sure to keep you posted though.

[nickfd]

I'll take pics of what I end up doing and paste so you guys see. I know I'm pretty excited by the challenge and hope that I won't have to buy another 250$ motherboard.


I ended up solving the issue last night by basically shimmieing up and elevating the motherboard pin. Here's a visual of my motherboard with the thermaltake spirit 2 northbridge mounted with what I did. Sitting on the top of the northbridge are some extra lifter type pins that I used so you guys can see.

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/7141/dscf0349tr2.jpg

[Thasp]

Out of curiousity, has anyone here had issues where there would be no bootup/POST after clearing CMOS?

[Gascogne]

Anyone found a solution why the motherboard reboots when one selects shutdown in windows? And no clearing the cmos doesn't help at all.

[topboy]

Hi Topboy,

No, this is not possible. The EZ-Raid ports are kind of integrated with the ICH7 chipset, so if you were to turn on RAID or AHCI on the ICH7, you won't be able to use the EZ-Raid for a RAID.

There is a good thread on the normal asus forums regarding exactly how the ez-raid/jmicron/ich7 works, what you're capable of doing, and the recommendations. I was thinking of doing something similar, since I have two 74gb raptors in raid0 on the ez-raid ports, and wanted to do a raid5 on the ich7. However, soon as I try and turn on AHCI or RAID for the ICH7, I'm unable to boot, and evenmoreso, it won't even recognize the array.

Best bet is to stay away from the ez-raid. There are many posts showing how slow it is compared to the other ports using the ICH7 chipset. Mostly, you have a i/o bandwidth issue, because those two ez-raid ports share one 300mb/sec sata2 channel. A little more effort in the beginning with loading your OS with the f6 floppy containing the intel raid drivers will go a long way in performance.

Best of luck!

Thanks for the info...This is what i suspected

Guess its over to the RD600 or the BADAXE2 for me

Topboy

[semiskilled]

" High fsb`s like 500 mhz can be done by raising the chipset MCH voltage.

On average, every 0.05V increase results into additional 7-8MHz. As a result, if you want to use up the entire clock generator potential that theoretically supports up to 500MHz FSB frequency, you should raise the voltage on the chipset North Bridge up to 1.85-1.9V. The maximum voltage setting allowed in the mainboard BIOS Setup is only 1.65V. This is the major limiting factor for successful Core 2 Duo overclocking"

problem solved with the e6600. MCH needs almost 2 V for 500 mhz :p: . That afcourse in combination with a few minor bios updates.....

I can hit 400 fsb on lowest vmch vich vfsb.. whats that about?

[MrDisco]

Thanks for the info...This is what i suspected

Guess its over to the RD600 or the BADAXE2 for me

Topboy

i had similar concerns. i'm debating which mobo to go with now:
P5B WiFi
BX2
or
RD600

:|

[J33pG33k]

I had some spare time this evening and swapped out the 1.02G for the 1.04G. So far I am at 400fsb x 9! Best o/c on 1.02G was 385x9 @ 1.3625 (BIOS).:rocker:

CPU temp @ 46 deg C (with stock Intel cooler), M/B temp @ 39 deg C. CPU voltage at 1.3875 (BIOS). All other voltages still on auto. Haven't run any benchmarks yet but am very optimistic! Just can't wait to get my water system in this thing!

I wonder if just having the memory run in dual channel mode is making the difference? The new board revision? One thing that has changed is the hardware monitor device. I no longer see that mysterious "temp3". :confused:

[nicepun]

I had some spare time this evening and swapped out the 1.02G for the 1.04G. So far I am at 400fsb x 9! Best o/c on 1.02G was 385x9 @ 1.3625 (BIOS).:rocker:

CPU temp @ 46 deg C (with stock Intel cooler), M/B temp @ 39 deg C. CPU voltage at 1.3875 (BIOS). All other voltages still on auto. Haven't run any benchmarks yet but am very optimistic! Just can't wait to get my water system in this thing!

I wonder if just having the memory run in dual channel mode is making the difference? The new board revision? One thing that has changed is the hardware monitor device. I no longer see that mysterious "temp3". :confused:

Try 450x8. Is the vdimm max value the same, 2.4v? I have family visiting right now so I will not get a chance to play with mine until this weekend.

[pitata]

When i go into hibernation or standby my computer reboots immeadetly.

WHY? And what to do?

[lawrywild]

Has anyone used RAID 1 on the EZ-RAID yet?

I want to know whether it's necessary to install the asus ezbackup software to build the array or will it mirror it fine if I just plug two formatted matching drives in?

I know I need the software to rebuild a faulty array but do I need it to get started?

[topboy]

i had similar concerns. i'm debating which mobo to go with now:
P5B WiFi
BX2
or
RD600

:|

Yeah same here but im holding off until we see how the RD600 performs. will watch to see how good or bad it is. Im not really that heavy into clocking, just like to get a little extra mhz. My main concern is stability

Topboy

[nickfd]

Has anyone used RAID 1 on the EZ-RAID yet?

I want to know whether it's necessary to install the asus ezbackup software to build the array or will it mirror it fine if I just plug two formatted matching drives in?

I know I need the software to rebuild a faulty array but do I need it to get started?

Hey Lawry,

Nope, you don't need any software to accomplish the mirroring off the bat. Just plug your drives in, set the jumpers, and you're okay. I have a raid0 on those ports now unfortunately, cause I didn't know about the poor performance and stuff. The only thing the ez-backup software gives you is a visual depiction of your drives from within windows. You don't even have any bios or things to change/modify/view as the box is posting, so you won't know if your stuff is degraded, broke, or whatever, until you boot into windows to take a look.

I have to do some data migration this weekend with my server and replace one of my arrays from 200x4 to 400x4. The following weekend I'll reload my OS when I rebuild my array on the ICH7 chipset.

[Gascogne]

Okay I have an annoying problem with my board at times.

I have clocked the system to 3.6Ghz and it is stable but sometimes the bios won't boot when I start up, so I restart and it starts up at stock speed.
And then I go into bios to get back my 3.6Ghz, reboots and won't boot again...
So restart it again and once again it boots up with stock speed, and I jump into bios again. Reboots and it won't boot...

This I can keep up for about 15min before the system wants to boot up at 3.6Ghz.

What can be wrong?

[icecpu]

I'm currently using E-Z raid setup for two 74gb raptor since it's an easy setup.

I read a lot of post saying that ICH7 is the best for raid. The problem is the set up is so complicated, can someone post for me procedure step by step to setup the raid 0 on ICH7 . Thanks in advance. And I don't have a floppy drive to create the raid driver disk before installing windows, is dvd rom ok ??

[Clump]

I'm currently using E-Z raid setup for two 74gb raptor since it's an easy setup.

I read a lot of post saying that ICH7 is the best for raid. The problem is the set up is so complicated, can someone post for me procedure step by step to setup the raid 0 on ICH7 . Thanks in advance. And I don't have a floppy drive to create the raid driver disk before installing windows, is dvd rom ok ??
I don't know if you can load the F6 drivers from a DVD. I don't have a floppy either. I used nlite http://www.nliteos.com/ to slipstream the drivers and it worked great. There are guides on the nlite site that are helpful and it's very straight forward. My XP Pro CD is SP1. I was able to slipstream the drivers, SP2 and updates from SP2 until the time I made the CD without much effort. It's really simple.

[lawrywild]

Hey Lawry,

Nope, you don't need any software to accomplish the mirroring off the bat. Just plug your drives in, set the jumpers, and you're okay. I have a raid0 on those ports now unfortunately, cause I didn't know about the poor performance and stuff. The only thing the ez-backup software gives you is a visual depiction of your drives from within windows. You don't even have any bios or things to change/modify/view as the box is posting, so you won't know if your stuff is degraded, broke, or whatever, until you boot into windows to take a look.

I have to do some data migration this weekend with my server and replace one of my arrays from 200x4 to 400x4. The following weekend I'll reload my OS when I rebuild my array on the ICH7 chipset.

Hi, Thanks, I plugged my 7200.8's in and ste the jumpers, installed the software and my god, that thing is disgraceful. The service it installs just instantly crashes windows xp when it starts and without the service running, the software can't do anything, brilliant... so anyway, now I set up RAID 0 WD3200KS's and RAID 1 7200.8's both on the intel matrix and getting amazing performance :confused: with my 7200.8 in non-raid the access time was 15.0, Raid 1 on ez-backup was 14.8, Raid 0 on ICH7R was 15.2 and RAID 1 on ICH7R is 12.1ms :eek: what the hell lol??

[nickfd]

I'm currently using E-Z raid setup for two 74gb raptor since it's an easy setup.

I read a lot of post saying that ICH7 is the best for raid. The problem is the set up is so complicated, can someone post for me procedure step by step to setup the raid 0 on ICH7 . Thanks in advance. And I don't have a floppy drive to create the raid driver disk before installing windows, is dvd rom ok ??

Hey ice,

Unfortunately if you want to use XP, you have to use a floppy to hit f6 to install your raid drivers during install. DVDROM is not an option, since it will only look at A:.. Not even a usbkey will work.

I'd recommend getting a usbfloppy (15-20$) or doing the slipstreamed method. Unfortunately slipstreaming isn't the easiest option, but i'm sure there are guides you can follow that are step-by-step. I've done it, but I spent a few hours studying it. :)

Best of luck!

[ngr2000]

First off id like to add to the argument that the ICH7 Raid is the best raid solution for our motherboards. Ive benchmarked them all including single drive setups. I found that Raid-0 64k cluster size was best for me, using the latest intel matrix raid drivers for ICH7.

Results from sandra 2007 SP1 (Filesystem Benchmark) On two serial ATAII WD 7200rpm 16mb cache drives in Raid 0.

Intel Matrix Raid

Newest Official Intel Drivers 64K cluster, Write Cache on.


Index 99 mb/s

buff read 2600 MB/s
seq read 124 MB/s
random read 65 MB/s
buff write 3600 MB/s
seq write 118 MB/s
Random Write 54 MB/s
Random Access 7 ms

The buffered scores are just simply great. The EZ Raid just cant compare.

[ngr2000]

Now for my problem with this board.

I have the E6600 Fam 6 Mod F step 6 ext fam 6 ext mod f Rev B2
Antec Trio 650W PSU + APC
1gb Kingston HyperX Pc8000
1707 Bios

I can get my cpu to overclock to 3.6ghz on air but even with a modest daily overclock set to a meer 3.0ghz 9 x 333 mem at 4 4 4 12 4 4:5, I seem to have problems buring good dvds. My system at 3ghz is idle at 89F and full load at 100F same for northbridge. I can run prime95 for 24 hours with not one error. However with this new system and same old pioneer 110d and Prodisc dvd-r, I am getting a lot of coasters. I am burning dvd movies with nero 7 and also ImgTools. The disks will verify after buring but when I play them back in a dvd player I get random lockups and chapter skipping and non reading at all. Also a lot of cd images that I have burned while overclocked came out bad. Apps wouldnt install etc. When I burn dvds at completely stock cpu settings I seem to never burn a coaster. What the heck is going on here, its driving me nuts. All i want to run at is 3.0ghz anything faster And I dont see any real benchmark improvements. All my voltage is on auto except for mem is at 2.2v Does anyone have any suggestions. Ive tourture tested this rig many times and get no lockups or errors either.

? how do you set the memory divider on this board. Cpu z tells me its 4:5, isnt 1:1 better? if so how do i set the mem to 1:1 If I go higher then 833mhz on the memory it seems to get unstable, shouldnt pc8000 ddr2 hit at least 1000mhz, even at the slowest mem timings i cant seem to get higher then around 912mhz which isnt stable.

[ngr2000]

Here is my ram: ????????????????

Model
Brand Kingston
Series HyperX
Model KHX8000D2K2/1G
Type 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM
Tech Spec
Capacity 1GB (2 x 512MB)
Speed DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000)
Cas Latency 5
Timing 5-5-5-15
Voltage 2.2V
ECC No
Buffered/Registered Unbuffered
Heat Spreader Yes


Why cant I hit ddr 1000 or even 1066 with this ram and this board. I think this board is flawed in the fact that 1066 is almost impossible to reach. Can someone please help me to tune this ram with our boards. What are my best settings to run at if I want to stay around 3.0ghz and still have great stability.

[REwell]

I just bought a P5W and I was wondering what overclocking and desktop utilities work best on this board. I am using the CPU Probe tool that came with the board and it works pretty well....

[BenchZowner]

I just bought a P5W and I was wondering what overclocking and desktop utilities work best on this board. I am using the CPU Probe tool that came with the board and it works pretty well....

The standard suite:

- CPU Temperatures Monitoring: CoreTemp (http://thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp) [ Not working at subzero temperatures ] { not the programs fault } [ accurate temperatures from the on-die DTS ]

- FSB Overclocking tool: SetFSB for P5WD2 (http://www13.plala.or.jp/setfsb/download/beta/setfsbU15a3_P5WD2.zip) [ tick Ultra before reading the clocks ]

- Memory Timings change in realtime: Memset v3.0 (http://www.benchzone.com/Downloads/MemSet%20v3,0%20Setup.exe) [ don't try changing CAS Latency ( tCL ) though, you'll get a free crash :D ]

Edit: And CrystalCPUid for realtime CPU Multiplier ( Ratio ) manipulation :)

[WeldZilla]

Well I'm keeping my board for along time to come. I just love it. For those who are just getting one use G.Skill 6400HZ or suffer like so many others. It was better binned and just fits this board perfectly. Oh and spend another $10 for a floppy drive. If for some reason you think owning one is uncool just plug it in when you need it. Here is my G.skill on the job in my system.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/finally.jpg
The right memory does make a difference. For those who are selling I'll be looking to pick them up cheap!!
WZ

[SiliconValley]

....... For those who are just getting one use G.Skill 6400HZ or suffer like so many others. It was better binned and just fits this board perfectly. .....
WZ


dude, any memory stick with micron D9s work perfectly well on this board lol.
G.Skill 6400HZ is great ram but you need 2.4V to run it in cas3 for 24/7 usage.
There are "better binned D9GMH" sticks out there that can do better but of course they cost a lot more, namely, Mushkin Redlines or Corsair Dominator pc8500.

[scaramonga]

G.Skill 6400HZ is great ram but you need 2.4V to run it in cas3 for 24/7 usage.

Absolute garbage!!

24/7 for months here @ 3 3 3 6 9 @ 2.0v! :)

[semiskilled]

I dont understand why you want low timings when intel dont get any preformance boost from it?

[lawrywild]

I dont understand why you want low timings when intel dont get any preformance boost from it?

lol? because intel does gain from it :rolleyes:

especially when you consider this board is limited to around ddr2-1000, ddr2-850 3-3-3-5 starts to look really sexy..

[semiskilled]

lol? because intel does gain from it :rolleyes:

especially when you consider this board is limited to around ddr2-1000, ddr2-850 3-3-3-5 starts to look really sexy..

I'm running my E6600 week 32 at 3063Mhz vCore 1.3 Stock cooler. 45 idle 59 load measured with TAT. vFSB, vICH and vMCH at lowest voltages.

So with an fsb at 340 i only run my sticks in 680mhz. i got "Corsair Dominator TWIN2X6400C4D 2048MB, DDR2,2x1GB(KIT),DHX,E.P.P, CL4-4-4-12T". IF i OC them to over 800mhz where will i gain performance? in games?

[scaramonga]

IF i OC them to over 800mhz where will i gain performance? in games?

LOL........not a lot.......but your toilet will flush better ;)

:slap:

[semiskilled]

LOL........not a lot.......but your toilet will flush better ;)

:slap:
well i thought the cpu couldn't handle it anyway.. so i was running my system 1:1 thou my sticks could do much more then the cpu because of limited cooling..

[nicepun]

lol? because intel does gain from it :rolleyes:

especially when you consider this board is limited to around ddr2-1000, ddr2-850 3-3-3-5 starts to look really sexy..


What are you talking about Willis??....LOL Only at Certain dividers. Crucial 10th Anniversary BTW.

http://img289.imageshack.us/img289/4999/1200mhzhu7.jpg

[Gascogne]

Okay I have an annoying problem with my board at times.

I have clocked the system to 3.6Ghz and it is stable but sometimes the bios won't boot when I start up, so I restart and it starts up at stock speed.
And then I go into bios to get back my 3.6Ghz, reboots and won't boot again...
So restart it again and once again it boots up with stock speed, and I jump into bios again. Reboots and it won't boot...

This I can keep up for about 15min before the system wants to boot up at 3.6Ghz.

What can be wrong?

No one with similiar problems at all or know the solution to it?

[SiliconValley]

24/7 for months here @ 3 3 3 6 9 @ 2.0v! :)

Really ? 2v for CAS3 ? That's awesome man.
I read somewhere in this thread that the earlier batches of 6400HZ were binned better. But I wasn't aware that it's binned that much better lol.
I picked up mine in September last yr (s/n 62910101...) and it needs absolutely 2.4v to pass memtest overnight @ 3-3-3-8-12.



lol? because intel does gain from it :rolleyes:

especially when you consider this board is limited to around ddr2-1000, ddr2-850 3-3-3-5 starts to look really sexy..




I think Concore benefits more frome high bandwidth over tight timing. Well,in benchmark anyway. I hardly motice any difference between running 3-3-3-8 and 4-3-3-4 @ fsb=400 on a 1:1 ratio, yet it gives me better score on 4:5 ratio @ fsb=390 ( highest I can reach ). even with 5-5-5-15 timing. I love to run my e6600 @ 3.6 Ghz , DDR1000
But neither the 6400HZ nor Mushkin PC8500 that I have could do it @ 400 !!

btw. Thanks for starting this thread and maintaining it, good job.

[lawrywild]

What are you talking about Willis??....LOL Only at Certain dividers. Crucial 10th Anniversary BTW.

Willis??? :confused:

Oh, yeh great your at 2.7ghz lol, I'm talking about decent cpu speed. Not like ddr-1200 2.7ghz is going to be faster than 3.2ghz ddr-800 ;)

PS: You only ran 1M aswell.. :rolleyes:

[nicepun]

Willis??? :confused:

Oh, yeh great your at 2.7ghz lol, I'm talking about decent cpu speed. Not like ddr-1200 2.7ghz is going to be faster than 3.2ghz ddr-800 ;)

PS: You only ran 1M aswell.. :rolleyes:

Oops, you're in the U.K., so wouldn't understand that saying. Well you made it seem like this mobo can't do more than 1000Mhz period. Now we know 3.2GHz regardless of the MHz on the memory is a big difference over 2.7GHz. 1MB SuperPi is no great achievement, I know this but I just want so show something positive out of this board that's all.

[WeldZilla]

This was this morning with the mem running at 2.3V and that's it!
I run a fan over my mem and it is ice cold.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/xz.jpg
just good ol' liquid cooling but, it works real well

WZ

[lawrywild]

Oops, you're in the U.K., so wouldn't understand that saying. Well you made it seem like this mobo can't do more than 1000Mhz period. Now we know 3.2GHz regardless of the MHz on the memory is a big difference over 2.7GHz. 1MB SuperPi is no great achievement, I know this but I just want so show something positive out of this board that's all.

OK, well it's easy to reach over 1000 on my board, but stability is another thing completely. Thing is, I think it's mainly my memory just can't do 1000 rather than my board but since hardly anyone else can reach 1000 stable, maybe it isn't my ram.. it's all very confusing :p:

http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/8497/ddr1050cas5cf8.png

[BenchZowner]

I'll be testing this board as well with my new GeIL DDR2-1200++ 4-4-4-12 sticks by next week [ or so :D, depends on my free time ] :)

[nicepun]

OK, well it's easy to reach over 1000 on my board, but stability is another thing completely. Thing is, I think it's mainly my memory just can't do 1000 rather than my board but since hardly anyone else can reach 1000 stable, maybe it isn't my ram.. it's all very confusing :p:

http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/8497/ddr1050cas5cf8.png


Would like me to do someting above 1100Mhz with a 32MB SuperPi?

[SiliconValley]

OK, well it's easy to reach over 1000 on my board, but stability is another thing completely. Thing is, I think it's mainly my memory just can't do 1000 rather than my board but since hardly anyone else can reach 1000 stable, maybe it isn't my ram.. it's all very confusing :p:


I kinda doubt your memory is the culprit. I think it all comes down to tRD being too tight on the P5W DH. The Mushkin sticks run perfectly fine on my buddy's P5B Dlx @ 1120 yet it barely makes it to the windows desktop for a few seconds before BSOD @ ddr1000 on the i975 board.
But hey, clock for clock, the p5w dh is faster, only wish that Asus can give us a better bios to manually adjust the tRD :mad:

[nicko]

I have problem with onboard sound...

I usually use Audigy 4 as my soundcard, but I bought an amplifier and I connected it through SPDIF out on my onboard soundcard.

But, when I install audio drivers, my cpu usage in idle is ~11%...then I uninstalled audio drivers, all was fine...

Then again, I installed audio drivers downloaded from Realtek's web site, but the cpu usage is still ~11%...

So, can someone help me??
Thx!

[syne_24]

Anybody here with a rev 1.03G and an unusual serial like this?

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/syne_24/DSC00009.jpg

I wonder if they fixed anything that's worth it to test out.

[nicepun]

Anybody here with a rev 1.03G and an unusual serial like this?

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/syne_24/DSC00009.jpg

I wonder if they fixed anything that's worth it to test out.

Yep, they suck, I'm returning it to Newegg for RMA. I bought a new one from another Chief Value and I got a Rev 1.04G. I'll test it out tonight. But Rev 1.03G are no good.

[REwell]

I should use the "Manual" mode for overclocking on this board right? How about the "Overclock Profile" mode?

PS how can I tell if I have a rev 1.03 or 1.04 board?

[SaFrOuT]

so newegg is sending only 1.03G now ?

[REwell]

Yep, they suck, I'm returning it to Newegg for RMA. I bought a new one from another Chief Value and I got a Rev 1.04G. I'll test it out tonight. But Rev 1.03G are no good.


What exactly is wrong with 1.03G??

[Luis_GT]

I don't know, but mines a 1.03G and its doing just Fine... it even overclocks like crazy... Managed tio get it up to 465FSB

[BigDisk]

I have problem with onboard sound...

I usually use Audigy 4 as my soundcard, but I bought an amplifier and I connected it through SPDIF out on my onboard soundcard.

But, when I install audio drivers, my cpu usage in idle is ~11%...then I uninstalled audio drivers, all was fine...

Then again, I installed audio drivers downloaded from Realtek's web site, but the cpu usage is still ~11%...

So, can someone help me??
Thx!

I suggest you just disable Dolby digital in the Realtek sound panel.

I usually leave it on though (and it reports CPU usage just like you). You got 2 CPUs so it shouldn't matter :P

[syne_24]

I don't know, but mines a 1.03G and its doing just Fine... it even overclocks like crazy... Managed tio get it up to 465FSB

you can do 465 with memory 1:1?

[Luis_GT]

Yep... though its a pain to get it up there since I can't adjust TRFC

[jvinsepa]

I fixed my XP shutdown issue where it would turn on a second later - it was a USB device (a sound-sensitive light that I used for gaming) plugged into a hub on the OTHER set of USB ports - not the ones that ASUS ties in to the remote power up.

So, it seems that BOTH sets of ports are sensitive to rogue USB devices, not just the remote-controlled ones. With that said, both my USB mouse and APC UPS plugged into the same USB hub do not trigger this behavior.

[BenchZowner]

Yep, they suck, I'm returning it to Newegg for RMA. I bought a new one from another Chief Value and I got a Rev 1.04G. I'll test it out tonight. But Rev 1.03G are no good.

That's a tough call, and a statistically wrong claim.
Have you tested a lot Rev1.03G boards ?
Nope.

Don't make such conclusions without enough research.

Unless the stock ( stock NB cooler, no Vmch ) 475MHz stable rev1.03g that I've got here sucks for you :)

[Photek]

First post on here :woot: Hi everyone.

Please can you guys help me because i think i might have killed my board...

Flashed BIOS to 1707, then rebooted, on start-up i went into BIOS and put my previous OC settings back... when i should have loaded the defalt settings on the first boot after flash... anyway, now board wont boot... i just get a blank screen, with fans spinning at maximum when i power up.

I've reset CMOS jumper atleast 5 times, and took the battery out and left it about an hour aswell as resetting jumper - didn't work. Also i've put a compact-flash memory card in with the 1707 ROM file on it called "P5WDH.ROM" and pressed ALT + F2 to try and blind flash it on boot up, but again it did not work... well, i left it 20+ minutes and it didnt seem to be doing anything.

...What else can i do??? :mad:

[nicko]

I suggest you just disable Dolby digital in the Realtek sound panel.

I usually leave it on though (and it reports CPU usage just like you). You got 2 CPUs so it shouldn't matter :P

Thx man! I appreciate that! :)

It works!

But, sound is better with Dolby Digital, so I'll leave it like this...

As you said, the cpu power is not a problem :p
Thx again!

[mikepaul]

...What else can i do??? :mad:
If you pulled the battery, set the jumper to reset for at least 15 seconds, then put the jumper back to run position and replaced the battery, and the system does not at least beep when you turn it on, you've done about all you can do before calling ASUS for help.

All my troubles with flashing were cleared up per above, so yours are either elsewhere (video card maybe, since it's hard to reset without removing it) or worse than I ever ran into...

[ngr2000]

how do you calculate a 1:1 ratio if your cpu fsb is at 333

im at ddr 888 and cpuz tells me im 3:4 at ddr 833 im 4:5 How the heck do i get 1:1

I want to stay around 3.0ghz can someone please help.

[scaramonga]

FSB 333 x9 = 3Ghz (2997)

Set RAM to DDR 666 which will give you a 1:1 Ratio.

;)

[yobi]

fsb 333 x9 ram 999 (8500) ratio 2:3 :scope:
http://img3.imagehaven.net//thumbs/305403Snap1.jpg (http://img3.imagehaven.net//viewer.php?id=305403Snap1.jpg)

[nickfd]

Anyone found a solution why the motherboard reboots when one selects shutdown in windows? And no clearing the cmos doesn't help at all.

Not sure if you saw, but some people had similar situation that ended up being USB devices connected to the back four usb ports. Try disconnecting all your usb devices and shutting down.

[Gig4moller]

Anyone know whats causing the fact that I can't seem to cross 356 fsb? As soon as I try 357 my screen won't work.

I have disabled EIST/C1E/QFAN/etc... One thing I can't seem to disable though (and might cause the problem?) is that Virtualization Technology thing... It's simply greyed out.

Any help would be great

[nickfd]

Here is my ram: ????????????????

Model
Brand Kingston
Series HyperX
Model KHX8000D2K2/1G
Type 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM
Tech Spec
Capacity 1GB (2 x 512MB)
Speed DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000)
Cas Latency 5
Timing 5-5-5-15
Voltage 2.2V
ECC No
Buffered/Registered Unbuffered
Heat Spreader Yes


Why cant I hit ddr 1000 or even 1066 with this ram and this board. I think this board is flawed in the fact that 1066 is almost impossible to reach. Can someone please help me to tune this ram with our boards. What are my best settings to run at if I want to stay around 3.0ghz and still have great stability.

1:1 = 333x9 -> 667mhz memory choice.

You asked what could be the culprit behind your burning of dvd's being a problem, and I'd put my money on the NorthBridge. When my NorthBridge cooler came off, and was hanging on only one of the hooks, not making any contact with the actual die, my windows would boot and function fine until I did any i/o. Soon as I'd try to burn or copy data, my box would lock. Then I looked in my case and saw that the cooler was busted.

If you haven't done any mods to your NB, it could be that it's overheating, or maybe you aren't putting enough volts to your vMCH. Take a look at that.

Lastly, the CPU has a 1066mhz FSB, but the motherboard is at 800fsb. You see some people able to get over 1000fsb using dividers, but I distinctly remember seeing people hit a wall the closer they got to 1066mhz.

[nickfd]

I should use the "Manual" mode for overclocking on this board right? How about the "Overclock Profile" mode?

PS how can I tell if I have a rev 1.03 or 1.04 board?

Use Manual mode, and set everything you're going to use manually. I don't have all of the information handy, so I can't tell you all the options, but I know lawry put a handful of them in the first post on this thread. You can also find a good guide on anandtech.com's forums for our mb and core2duo overclocking.

Good luck!

[nickfd]

First post on here :woot: Hi everyone.

Please can you guys help me because i think i might have killed my board...

Flashed BIOS to 1707, then rebooted, on start-up i went into BIOS and put my previous OC settings back... when i should have loaded the defalt settings on the first boot after flash... anyway, now board wont boot... i just get a blank screen, with fans spinning at maximum when i power up.

I've reset CMOS jumper atleast 5 times, and took the battery out and left it about an hour aswell as resetting jumper - didn't work. Also i've put a compact-flash memory card in with the 1707 ROM file on it called "P5WDH.ROM" and pressed ALT + F2 to try and blind flash it on boot up, but again it did not work... well, i left it 20+ minutes and it didnt seem to be doing anything.

...What else can i do??? :mad:

I had a similar situation happen to me. Using a usb-device with the P5WDH.ROM in the root did not work, and since I didn't have a floppy handy, I burned a CD. That worked and the bios recovery screen was able to find it and flash it without a problem.

Make sure when you're resetting your CMOS, your motherboard is on, then change position of the jumper. It should turn off your computer. I did all this with the battery removed.. Keep the CMOS jumper in the reset position for 15 seconds, while trying to turn on the box (this may not be necessary, but I was desperate). Physically turn off the power to your psu, change positions of the jumper, and cross your fingers while turning everything back on. If you work, go ahead and put the battery back in.

Best of luck.

[nickfd]

Anyone know whats causing the fact that I can't seem to cross 356 fsb? As soon as I try 357 my screen won't work.

I have disabled EIST/C1E/QFAN/etc... One thing I can't seem to disable though (and might cause the problem?) is that Virtualization Technology thing... It's simply greyed out.

Any help would be great

Did you also disable Hyperpath3 and all the top Auto settings in the chipset pane? I know some people had specific fsb numbers that they werent able to hit, but I thought that was past over 400mhz. Try out 366 and see if that works.

Also, can you tell us what happens when you get a fsb that doesnt work? Does your box post? Or it not give you that at all?

If you don't see anything, try upping the voltage of your CPU a notch or two, and keep going up until it works. You should also try upping the voltage to your ram a notch or two over what it's rated at. If I kept my ram settings as "auto", my voltage would be 1.80, yet my ram requires 2.20v to function, and more if I want to tighten my timings.

[Gig4moller]

Yeah Hyperpath3 is disabled. I'll try again later with upping vdimm and vcore slightly :)

And well, my screen just wouldnt work while my system appeared to be running (all fans working), don't think i heard a beep tho.

Edit: Any program btw where I can see my current vmch/vdimm voltagE?

[semiskilled]

my 24/7 clock is at 333fsb x9 on 1.32 vCore. If u try 1.35vCore i can use windows with up to 370fsb. but when i run ORTHOS its getting errors pretty quickly. it dosent matter if i max out the vfsb, vmch or vich. i think its strange, or is it normal? i want to raise my 24/7 OC w/o raise my vcore past 1.350. Any ideas of what could make it stable if its not the vcore?

atm i use EIST and all those things you shouldn't use just to get my pc as cold as possible when iam not using it. ram is running at 832mhz.

EDIT:
Thought i would show you my best 24/7 OC with stock cooler so far.
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9437/oc24qk5.th.jpg (http://img269.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oc24qk5.jpg)

[Severance]

My 24\7 overclock. Cpu,Nb and mem cooled with liquid chilled to 5c.

[Severance]

sorry so big.

[fritzman]

Darn that's nice. It's so close to 4Ghz... are you sure you can't do 4Ghz as a 24/7 rig? Man that would be sweet. Great s/s BTW.

[irfs]

That's a tough call, and a statistically wrong claim.
Have you tested a lot Rev1.03G boards ?
Nope.

Don't make such conclusions without enough research.

Unless the stock ( stock NB cooler, no Vmch ) 475MHz stable rev1.03g that I've got here sucks for you :)


This is my 3rd P5W DH 1st 2 were 1.02G worked fine both hit 3.6Ghz 400X9.
1.03G is in my opinion a little better i can boot 410-420. on 1.65V MCH havent tried any more yet.

[ngr2000]

Bone stock my northbridge was overheating I think. It was hitting around 115f idle. Recently I removed both heatsinks, removed copper plate, and cleaned them up and applied artic silver 5. I also added a mini fan. Now my northbridge is 91f idle. Cpu is 89f idle.

So is there any benefit to running at 1:1, right now at ddr888 333 x 9 my sandra mem score is 7088. Which is the best Ive gotten so far.

[nessi]

Hi!
I've got ASUS p5w dhd mainboard. And i have alot of problems. I am currently using 1707 bios.

here is my hw:

Intel C2d E6600
Ati Radeon x1900xtx
OCZ value ram 2048ddr2 ch pc 5400 667mhz
forton source 600w
WD 200gb s-ata hard disc
Maxtor 300gb Ide hard disc 7200rpm
Maxtor 160gb ide hard disck 7200rpm
benq dvd drive (IDE)
unknown dvd bruner (ide)

Both my ide hard drives run in PIO mode, and i have tried alot to get it in DMA mode, cuz its REALLY slow, took me 110min to extract 5gb from winrar to the drive. And its REALLY slow when booting.

I am not very good in bios. But i've tried alittle, i really need help with this.

I have also problem finding my dvdburner.

I've tried to installe the newest jmicro raid driver but its in PIO mode still...

[Severance]

Darn that's nice. It's so close to 4Ghz... are you sure you can't do 4Ghz as a 24/7 rig? Man that would be sweet. Great s/s BTW.
thank you. I have tried to get 4 gig stable but cpu needs to much vcore. 1.6v is as far as i would like to go.

[BenchZowner]

This is my 3rd P5W DH 1st 2 were 1.02G worked fine both hit 3.6Ghz 400X9.
1.03G is in my opinion a little better i can boot 410-420. on 1.65V MCH havent tried any more yet.

I think that you didn't read my post well m8 [ no offense ]
I'm with you on this.
Like I said my P5W DH rev1.03g is 100% stable at 475MHz :)
Haven't tested any rev1.04g though [ and I don't plan to :D ]

[mikepaul]

I bought a Vantec NST-360SU-BL eSATA/USB2.0 enclosure, and it worked just fine when I plugged it into the motherboard's eSATA outlet.

However, I picked the SATA3 plug for the slotcover outlet that came with the Vantec unit to provide a second connector, and that one doesn't work. No sign a drive is connected to it.

Can you just use SATA3 (or SATA4) for something other than RAID? The manual said use SATA1 for boot and SATA3/SATA4 for data drives. Do I NEED to change the default RAID_SEL jumper setting to make SATA3 available for non-RAID use?

There's also the SATA_RAID1 plug, but I'm not sure it can be used in a non-RAID setup in conjunction with the external plug, although I do have that BIOS option set to NORMAL.

Thanks...

[Hutch]

Here was my max 24/7 stable back in september... Haven't used the P5W DH since then...

http://www.geocities.com/hutch1ns/16.jpg

[Severance]

Here was my max 24/7 stable back in september... Haven't used the P5W DH since then...

http://www.geocities.com/hutch1ns/16.jpg

I have tried pencil mod several times but does not seem to work for me. Volt meter no change. What program are u guys using to show proper memory voltage? i cant find any. By the way nice fsb speed. My X6800 needs way to much vcore to post above 400fsb no matter what multiplier i use.

[factory81]

Guys, I have read up to page 54.....I apologize for not reading the rest.

I am on BIOS 1602

I can't get above 369 x 9 on L632A CPU for the life of me. Everything is disabled, I mean everything. I have been following your guides to the T. I turn the ram on SPD or my own timings and jack them up as high as the BIOS will allow me. I get in to XP and set Memset to have higher trfc is it all the way up to 40 and beyond.

I will take CPU voltage to 1.55v even and I cannot get past 369fsb period.
Orthos will restart within one minute if not the second I run it at 370 or 371, 373, or 375. I cannot......get past 3.32ghz....
Ive ran 8x multi and tried for higher FSB's and it doesn't want to do it.

Is it the BIOS revision I am on?

What can I provide to you guys to help you narrow down whats holding me back?

[Severance]

Guys, I have read up to page 54.....I apologize for not reading the rest.

I am on BIOS 1602

I can't get above 369 x 9 on L632A CPU for the life of me. Everything is disabled, I mean everything. I have been following your guides to the T. I turn the ram on SPD or my own timings and jack them up as high as the BIOS will allow me. I get in to XP and set Memset to have higher trfc is it all the way up to 40 and beyond.

I will take CPU voltage to 1.55v even and I cannot get past 369fsb period.
Orthos will restart within one minute if not the second I run it at 370 or 371, 373, or 375. I cannot......get past 3.32ghz....
Ive ran 8x multi and tried for higher FSB's and it doesn't want to do it.

Is it the BIOS revision I am on?

What can I provide to you guys to help you narrow down whats holding me back?
Im sure u need more vcore. I need 1.6 for anything above 370fsb.

[Severance]

Well i was able to hit 440fsb booting at 1.1 ram ratio fsb 398 vcore1.6 and timings relaxed to 5.5.5.15. Using clockgen got to 440fsb.

[jvinsepa]

How do I know what board revision (1.03g, etc) I have?

It doesn't seem to be listed on the box or on bootup....

[REwell]

I have a P5W and a E6600 and using Core Temp it shows my 2 cores being 118 degrees F!!!!!!! That is under a load WITHOUT OVERCLOCKING!!! In other programs it shows it as being 90 degrees!!

I understand the temperatures are measured by different sensors but is this temp. too high for the reading from Core Temp.???

[Severance]

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/392I have a P5W and a E6600 and using Core Temp it shows my 2 cores being 118 degrees F!!!!!!! That is under a load WITHOUT OVERCLOCKING!!! In other programs it shows it as being 90 degrees!!

I understand the temperatures are measured by different sensors but is this temp. too high for the reading from Core Temp.???
Use intels thermal tool to measure temp and see if its still that high. u can down load it here http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/392

[REwell]

Yup thats one of the tools i am using. It still shows 47 degrees in each core.

Plus I am using a Thermaltake Big Typhoon with Arctic silver!!!

[Severance]

Yup thats one of the tools i am using. It still shows 47 degrees in each core.

Plus I am using a Thermaltake Big Typhoon with Arctic silver!!!
47 load or idle?

[taxman]

Guys I need to roll back to bios 1707 since 1801 seems to make my OC unstable.

I don't have a floppy drive...what should I do?
Thanks in advance. BTW, the more specific, the better :)

[REwell]

100% load = 47 degrees

Idle = 41 degrees

[Severance]

How do I know what board revision (1.03g, etc) I have?

It doesn't seem to be listed on the box or on bootup....

Look between cpu and memory slot near top of board u will see rev 1.0... bottom right of.... Digital Home
p5wdh deluxe

[Severance]

100% load = 47 degrees

Idle = 41 degrees
47 is fine for that chip. But i thought u said 118?\ and 90?

[REwell]

47 degrees Celsius under load
41 degrees Celsius idle

[Severance]

Guys I need to roll back to bios 1707 since 1801 seems to make my OC unstable.

I don't have a floppy drive...what should I do?
Thanks in advance. BTW, the more specific, the better :)
Do u have a usb flash drive? u can use the asus ezflash 2. Download bios on to usb flash. Reboot Press <alt>+<f2> during post. bios setup program will come up go to tools select ez flash 2 press enter to enable it. U can switch drives using <tab> let it find the file.

[Severance]

47 degrees Celsius under load
41 degrees Celsius idle
temp looks ok to me.

[REwell]

I think that where the Temp is read by the Core Temp. is a diode in the processor whereas the temp that shows up under other programs as the cpu temp is actually a motherboard sensor. So obviously the temp would be higher in the processor. This is what i have heard. Thanks

[jvinsepa]

Look between cpu and memory slot near top of board u will see rev 1.0... bottom right of.... Digital Home
p5wdh deluxe

OK, thank you - mine says 1.04g, and I got it from Newegg... so it seems they are shipping the new revision. I read earlier in the thread that someone thought newegg was only shipping 1.03g.

[REwell]

FYI I just got my P5W from Newegg like a week ago and it is a 1.03G.

[Eastcoasthandle]

I had a desire to run my SATA HDs and my IDE cd/dvd rom drive off of ACHI instead of IDE (which is PATA). I read somewhere that you can use AHCI MODE instead of Standard IDE mode (even after you install XP. AHCI is suppose to be installed when XP is installed using F6 during setup) and in some cases AHCI will work better. However, its a true PITA to get it up and running because once you install XP any AHCI driver is simply not recognized by XP. Even if you download Intel's Matrix drivers it will not install regardless if you use the bootable disk version Floppy Configuration Utility (http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProductID=2101&DwnldID=12475&strOSs=44&OSFullName=Windows*%20XP%20Professional&lang=eng) or if you use the .exe version Intel Matrix (http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/Product_Filter.aspx?ProductID=2101&lang=eng). Until I stumbled upon this thread that explains it to a T although unorthodox it does in fact work. Once you finally get XP to load using AHCI you then go back and update to the lastest Intel Matrix if you like (if necessary).

Folks I have found a thread (http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t457699.html) that explains it very well just follow the instructions because you have to edit one of the install files so that it will install drivers for the ICH7R and not ICH7M.

This does in fact work I did it myself for P5W DH DELUXE and it worked flawlessly. XP still loaded about the same time but the explorer is a bit more responsive. I haven't tried games like BF2 yet. Word of warning, you have to put "ONBOARD IDE OPERATE MODE" (found in the IDE Configuration of your bios) to Compatibility mode then below that select S-ATA (forget what it's called). This is what I did and it work flawlessly. I am sure keeping your "ONBOARD IDE OPERATE MODE" to Enhanced mode may work as well but that's not what I did.

After you reboot with the drivers installed you can download Intel's chipset Identifier to make sure you are in AHCI.

Please note:
Use this method if XP refuses to install AHCI drivers when you attempt to update the driver within device manager!

[cuke2u]

Hi, not wanting to contradict but I have managed to update the sata drivers to ACHI without have to mess around with any editing. Infact the process is described quite clearly on the Asus forums. You just update the driver within device manager then reboot and change the bios setting over to ACHI, simple...
ChrisC

[BenchZowner]

Latest Intel Matrix Storage drivers incorporated on Windows Installation CD, pure & simple [ and faster :P ]

[Eastcoasthandle]

When I update the driver within device manager, XP would not recognize nor install any ACHI driver for me (from PATA). It appears there are different strokes for different folks regardless of the reason, the issue is in fact real. As for me, I didn't have ACHI installed (as required when you install XP). Therefore the PITA procedures to install them.

The biggest problem I found was
- you could not extract the Intel Matrix .exe file
- when you used the floppy version the .inf would not load nor was it recognized by device manager.
- P5W DH Deluxe cd did not work either.

[Severance]

OK, thank you - mine says 1.04g, and I got it from Newegg... so it seems they are shipping the new revision. I read earlier in the thread that someone thought newegg was only shipping 1.03g.

What is the difference between revs.? I have rev 1.02. On this board... it uses default cpu multiplier so if i set fsb to 400fsb in bios save and exit the system uses default multi at first 400x11=4400mhz. then at asus post screen bios drops multiplier to what u have set in bios. I need alot of vcore 1.6+ to post above 400fsb i wonder if it is the same in the newer revisions? My p5b mb does not work like that but i would like to use this mb because it is much faster for what i use this system for. Anybody have any clues"?

[pentax]

Hello everybody!

I'm new to this forum. Reading though for some time and now that I have the problem I post. :(

I have P5W HD Deluxe with 1801 Bios, E6600. With this version of bios I managed to OC to 400FSB x 8 (3.2G) RAM 1:1 @ 4,4,4,12 (2.2V). On torture tests CPU got to 44C (1.35V), MB also to 44C and was very stable. I was happy with the performance. BUT! One day (computer one month old) it just woun't boot. No beep from the MB. Ofcourse I couldn't get to bios. Send it to service and foud out that the proc has died.

Now I just hope the garantie will get through cause of the OC. Now they are waiting for the proc, meanwhile they also changed the MB just in case.

Now, what do you think: is it possible that my OC-ing halped proc to die or there was bad piece in the first place? Is MB also the possible candidate? What else could be the reason?

Many thanks for your help and thoughts!

B.

[taxman]

Do u have a usb flash drive? u can use the asus ezflash 2. Download bios on to usb flash. Reboot Press <alt>+<f2> during post. bios setup program will come up go to tools select ez flash 2 press enter to enable it. U can switch drives using <tab> let it find the file.

Thanks! I'll give it a try later today.

[Eastcoasthandle]

Hello everybody!

I'm new to this forum. Reading though for some time and now that I have the problem I post. :(

I have P5W HD Deluxe with 1801 Bios, E6600. With this version of bios I managed to OC to 400FSB x 8 (3.2G) RAM 1:1 @ 4,4,4,12 (2.2V). On torture tests CPU got to 44C (1.35V), MB also to 44C and was very stable. I was happy with the performance. BUT! One day (computer one month old) it just woun't boot. No beep from the MB. Ofcourse I couldn't get to bios. Send it to service and foud out that the proc has died.

Now I just hope the garantie will get through cause of the OC. Now they are waiting for the proc, meanwhile they also changed the MB just in case.

Now, what do you think: is it possible that my OC-ing halped proc to die or there was bad piece in the first place? Is MB also the possible candidate? What else could be the reason?

Many thanks for your help and thoughts!

B.
If your processor died it was more then likely do to torture testing it or high OC IMO. The end results could have been heat or simple electrical failure do to the OC (I forget the technical name for it). Do you recall CPU temps? I've read about this before a while back and that's why I no longer use prime95 for hours/days on end (not saying you did this, I don't know). And I read countless times where an OC CPU is prime95 stable for 12 hours but crashes in a game. Although I cannot say for certain what the actual cause was. I will ask that you have your ram checked as well while you are at it.

[nickfd]

Hi!
I've got ASUS p5w dhd mainboard. And i have alot of problems. I am currently using 1707 bios.

here is my hw:

Intel C2d E6600
Ati Radeon x1900xtx
OCZ value ram 2048ddr2 ch pc 5400 667mhz
forton source 600w
WD 200gb s-ata hard disc
Maxtor 300gb Ide hard disc 7200rpm
Maxtor 160gb ide hard disck 7200rpm
benq dvd drive (IDE)
unknown dvd bruner (ide)

Both my ide hard drives run in PIO mode, and i have tried alot to get it in DMA mode, cuz its REALLY slow, took me 110min to extract 5gb from winrar to the drive. And its REALLY slow when booting.

I am not very good in bios. But i've tried alittle, i really need help with this.

I have also problem finding my dvdburner.

I've tried to installe the newest jmicro raid driver but its in PIO mode still...

I'd try using your hdd and burner off the intel pata port instead of jmicron (the ide port on the right part of the mb. Also make sure in your bios you have everything set properly in terms of IDE configuration.

[nickfd]

my 24/7 clock is at 333fsb x9 on 1.32 vCore. If u try 1.35vCore i can use windows with up to 370fsb. but when i run ORTHOS its getting errors pretty quickly. it dosent matter if i max out the vfsb, vmch or vich. i think its strange, or is it normal? i want to raise my 24/7 OC w/o raise my vcore past 1.350. Any ideas of what could make it stable if its not the vcore?

atm i use EIST and all those things you shouldn't use just to get my pc as cold as possible when iam not using it. ram is running at 832mhz.

EDIT:
Thought i would show you my best 24/7 OC with stock cooler so far.
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9437/oc24qk5.th.jpg (http://img269.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oc24qk5.jpg)

Many of us are using 1.60-1.61vcore without a problem, and need to do so to hit high clocks. Watch your core temperatures with Coretemp and as long as you're 70c or lower after a few minutes of dual prime95's, you're ok. You will only lose life on your cpu if you're in the 70s for long duration of time.

[nickfd]

Guys, I have read up to page 54.....I apologize for not reading the rest.

I am on BIOS 1602

I can't get above 369 x 9 on L632A CPU for the life of me. Everything is disabled, I mean everything. I have been following your guides to the T. I turn the ram on SPD or my own timings and jack them up as high as the BIOS will allow me. I get in to XP and set Memset to have higher trfc is it all the way up to 40 and beyond.

I will take CPU voltage to 1.55v even and I cannot get past 369fsb period.
Orthos will restart within one minute if not the second I run it at 370 or 371, 373, or 375. I cannot......get past 3.32ghz....
Ive ran 8x multi and tried for higher FSB's and it doesn't want to do it.

Is it the BIOS revision I am on?

What can I provide to you guys to help you narrow down whats holding me back?

Try booting into your stable clock, and increase your tRD to 8 with memset. The tRFC (set to 42) is important but not as important as tRD. Increase memory a notch up its manual setting (my memory is 2.20v even tho mb only wanted to put 1.80v into it initially), and feel free to put 1.60+v as long as your cores dont get higher than the 70's c when in dual prime95's.

[JokerCPoC]

Ok I have a 1.03G and I use the 1601 Bios cause as far as I can tell It's the last one where the 11 or 12 multipliers still work, Not everyone is blessed with really fast ram, I have two OCZ PC2-8000 dimms Timing 5-6-6-15, Bus speed 290MHz (Rated FSB: 1161MHz) and the cpu is a QX6700 running at 3.19GHz and Yes I'm using a multiplier of 11. The Thermaltake 750w toughpower psu has been replaced with a snappier OCZ 850w GameXstream psu.

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n107/JokerCPoC/P5W%20Pics/IMG_0094.jpg

[syne_24]

hey is anyone here running ICH7 raid on vista with this board? If so, what files do i need to copy over to the usb flash drive for raid installation? thanks

[lawrywild]

hey is anyone here running ICH7 raid on vista with this board? If so, what files do i need to copy over to the usb flash drive for raid installation? thanks

None :)

Intel raid drivers aren't needed for vista installation, they're incorporated into the disc, atleast for the MSDN version anyway

[martinii]

Hi,

Could someone attach config files from MBM?

[nickfd]

Hi,

Could someone attach config files from MBM?

Bios? *sorry for such a long post.. is good info for new owners*

I thought that lawry had the bios settings in the first post, but notice now he didn't. Here's a paste from a thread on the asus forums on a slightly different model motherboard, but still applies for us.

NOTE - Please use this guide and apply the fixes that lawry suggests in the first post!! Also, I changed some of the settings from the guide to apply to our mb vs the P5WD2, but may have missed some (this is a long post), so please caution on setting absolutely everything to this post. If you doubt anything, feel free to ask us.
url: http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20060220163525858&board_id=1&model=P5WD2-E+Premium&page=1&SLanguage=en-us

Settings and info (lawry, can you add this to the first post? Explanations dont have to be there, but it's great for people to see what to set their bios settings for to start their overclocking) :

Setting: Remarks:
Main
System Time
System Date
Legacy Diskette A Some people reported problems having
this set to disabled, so just in
case, be aware of this. I haven't
experienced any whether set or
disabled, floppy connected or not.
Make sure your system is set stock!
My experience is that setting 1.44M
here while NOT having a floppy
connected makes the POST take
slightly longer to complete boot
Primary IDE Master Blue IDE-connector Master
(Each can be entered, showing:)
Type
LBA/Large Mode
Block
PIO Mode
DMA Mode
Smart Monitoring For HDDs only, using Standard IDE-
mode or AHCI-mode, set to enabled.
You'll get warnings when your drive
is about to fail. Worth the small
performance-hit. Likewise, if you
use the ICH7R in RAID-mode, you
should install Intel Matrix Storage
Manager application to get same
warnings from your RAID-arrays.
Note that SMART-reporting on RAID-
arrays is not yet supported (Is a
known issue), it works, it's there,
but for some reason, programs
reading SMART-values can't
32bit transfer Enabled, if applicable
(Most modern devices support it)
Primary IDE Slave Blue IDE-connector Slave
Third IDE Master SATA1 Master in AHCI/RAID-mode
Third IDE Slave SATA2 Slave in standard IDE-mode,
SATA2 Master in AHCI/RAID-mode
Fourth IDE Master SATA3 Master in standard
IDE/AHCI/RAID-mode
Fourth IDE Slave SATA4 Slave in standard IDE-mode,
SATA4 Master in AHCI/RAID-mode
IDE Configuration
Configure SATA as Personal Preference
Standard IDE to use SATA-drives
emulating PATA-drives, hence max.
speed will be UDMA6=133MB/s.
AHCI to use SATA-drives as normal
SATA-drives, incl. hot-plug and NCQ,
requires Windows 2000 SP4/XP SP1
RAID to use SATA-drives as RAID-
arrays incl. hot-plug and NCQ.
Setting RAID and not creating
arrays is almost the same as AHCI,
with the added advantage that you
could use one drive as AHCI and 2
more for a RAID-array for example.
Not really recommended though.
Requires Win 2000 SP4/XP SP1
Requires onboard SATA bootROM
enabled. You cannot use the LAN-
bootROMs then! (BIOS 0302)
Onboard IDE Operate Mode Compatibilty mode is only needed if
you have drives or opticals that are
old or otherwise don't work correct.
You will mostly notice immediately
if you need this, since detection of
the device will fail or be wrong
Onboard SATA Bootrom Needed when in RAID-mode
Onboard LAN-bootROMs don't work if
this is enabled! (BIOS 0302)
ALPE and ASP Personal Preference
AHCI-mode only: Enabled to get
power-management, ie. SATA-drives
have several standby-modes to save
power, but ofcourse, this creates a
performance hit. Only enable when
max. power-saving or less noise (if
system is idle for long periods) is
desired. Note: RAID-mode is
considered a "Performance"-mode,
and as such, these features will
not be available.
IDE Detect Timeout 35 sec.
System Information
Advanced
Jumperfree Configuration
AI Overclocking Manual
CPU Frequency Look on your CPU-box for FSB-value:
533: put 133 here
800: put 200 here
1066: put 266 here
Can't find it? Check CPU-link at end
DRAM Frequency Set the speed of memory you have,
nothing else. Even for memorytypes
the manual says it'll downgrade
Performance Mode Set Turbo
PCI Express Frequency Set 90 Mhz (set 100 if you
get display corruption)
PCI Clock Sync Mode Set 33.33 Mhz
Memory Voltage Set 1.8
CPU VCore Voltage Look on your CPU-box, it'll say
the max. voltage, can't find it?
Check at the end for CPU-link
FSB Termination Voltage Set 1.2
MCH Chipset Voltage Set 1.50
ICH Chipset Voltage Set 1.05








Overclock Options Simply never use, Crap, bull:banana::banana::banana::banana:
and anything but Rock&ROll :-)
AI N.O.S. Mode Simply never use, even bigger Crap!
Sensitivity
Target Frequency
AI CPU Lock Free Only D 8x0 procs. Disabled for
stock
LAN Cable Status
POST Check LAN Cable Personal Preference, normally off
though, takes time at POST!
USB Configuration
USB Function Personal Preference
Make DAMN sure you connect the
provided USB-expansionbrackets
CORRECTLY to board's USB-connectors,
NOT the IEEE1394-connectors!!!
Same is true vice versa for 1394!!!
Legacy USB Support If you have S3 Standby problems
or otherwise need it (USB Keyboard/
mouse!), Enable. Also enabled for
power on options using USB keyboard/
mouse
USB 2.0 Controller Personal Preference
Windows XP SP1->Windows update to
get required patch
USB 2.0 Cont. Mode HiSpeed
BIOS EHCI hand-off Disabled if installing Windows
USB Mass Storage for USB memorysticks or other
external USB storage
Reset Delay Time to try to boot from USB-stick
Emulation Type
CPU Configuration
Ratio CMOS Setting Leave default
VID CMOS Setting Leave default
AI CPU Lock Free Disabled
Microcode Updation Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit Disabled
Execute Disable Disabled if you want a tiny
performance-gain. Anyone connected
to the internet SHOULD have proper
virus-scanner and Spyware-tools
installed anyway. Enabling this can
cause "good" software to refuse
running or even crash (DivX 5.2.1
for example). Disable in Windows:
Rightclick My Computer->Properties
->Advanced-TAB->Click Startup and
Recovery-Settings button->Click Edit
->Change all "/noexecute=Optin"
entries to "/Execute"->Save->
Restart. Enabled if you want it
anyway, in which case you'll have
to do nothing in Windows
Enhanced C1 Control Auto
CPU Internal Thermal Auto
Virtualization Unuseable yet (Future feature) ->
Disable. Might be usefull with
virtualization software like
VMWare or Virtual PC/Server
though.
Hyper-Threading Personal preference
MUST be set and left alone BEFORE
Windows-installation. You can
disable AFTER windows install,
but you cannot Enable AFTER
windows install, requires
Windows XP or later
Intel Speedstep Tech Disabled, unless you want it despite
performance hit. Requires Windows XP
SP2 or later to use
Chipset
Configure DRAM by SPD Enabled if you don't know your
memory-timings. Disabled to
manually set memory-timings or
for overclocking!!!
You should leave disabled to keep
manual timings ofcourse!!!
People having memory that downgrades
should set this to disabled and set
timings manually to make it run at
the speed they bought it for.
Check below for memory-explanations
DRAM CAS Latency Same, check below
DRAM RAS# Precharge Same, check below
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Same, check below
DRAM RAS# Activate Same, check below
DRAM Write Recovery Same, check below
DRAM ECC Mode Auto
Hyper Path 3 Disabled
DRAM Throttling Thres Disabled for better performance,
especially if your memory has heat-
spreaders, Auto if you want programs
like CPU-Z to be able to read
correct memory-timings
Boot Graphics Adapter PCI Express/PCI normally
Universal PCI-E Speed X2 normally
PEG Buffer Length Long
Link Latency Slow
PEG Root Control Enabled (Disable if video-problems)
PEG Link Mode Normal (set slow for max. compatibility, ie. least auto-overclock)
Slot Power Normal
high Priority Port Disabled
Onboard Devices Configuration
HD Audio Controller Personal Preference
Front Panel Support Personal Preference, although,
depends on your box! ;-)
Onboard 1394 Personal Preference
Onboard PCIE GbE LAN_1 Personal Preference
LAN Option ROM Enabled if you want to make use of
RPL/PXE/WOL (Wake On Lan) features
Works only when onboard SATA bootROM
is disabled! (BIOS 0302)
Onboard PCIE GbE LAN_2 Personal Preference
LAN Option ROM Same here as LAN1
Jmicron SATA/PATA Disabled, unless you really need it,
!alpha-state component!
Jmicron bootrom Disabled, this simply doesn't work
correctly, just like all other
bootROMs don't work well (BIOS 0302)
Serial Port 1 Personal Preference
Parallel Port Address Mostly leave default
Parallel Port Mode ECP is best, EPP if problems, Bi-
directional for most older printers,
normal for prehistoric ones
ECP DMA Channel 3, unless you have a weird
(sound)PCI-Card stealing DMA 3
Parallel Port IRQ 7 (Windows doesn't use it anyway
in most cases)
Onboard Game Personal Preference
PCI/PnP
Plug And Play OS Enabled, disable if hardware-
conflicts
PCI LAtency Most equipment can stand 32, if
PCI-card problems, leave default
at 64 or even increase to 128.
Increase too if your Realtek
SPDIF-output stutters.
Definitely play around with this
if you have any Creative soundcard!
Sorry, yes, Creative spells trouble!
If this doesn't help, try a
different PCI-slot
Allocate IRQ to VGA No (Only used when video PCI-card
used, not PCIex)
Palette Snooping Disabled, unless you use a very old
PCI-card which still conforms to the
prehistoric ISA-spec. (8/16 bits)
(And who will these days? Although,
some people have problems with their
expensive PCIex video-card, guess
ASUS left this option for them to
try with one of those :-) )
IRQ-xx assigned to Leave these set to PCI Device,
unless specifically instructed
in your PCI-cards manual to set one
Power
Suspend Type S1-state: PC stays on in low-
powermode when you select Standby
S3-state: PC turns off and saves
current state to memory
Auto: Windows detects what's
possible at install (usually S3)
Repost Video on S3 No, unless corrupted graphics or
STOP 0x000007E/0x000008E crash
after waking up from S3-standby,
then try setting to Yes
ACPI 2.0 Support Yes, required in any 64-bits OS!
APIC Support Enabled, required in any 64-bits OS!
Note that any change to last 2 should be done BEFORE
installing Windows and they should not be changed AFTER!
If you do, windows might not boot or even crash. In that
case, simply change back and it works again. You need to
change anyway? Then you'll HAVE to re-install windows.
There are ways to circumvent a re-install, but they're
complicated and technical and beyond the scope of this
info here
APM Configuration
Power button Mode Personal Preference
Restore on AC loss Personal Preference
Power on by RTC alarm Personal Preference
Power on by Ex modems Personal Preference
Power on by PCI Required for WOL, Wake On LAN
Power on by PCIex ? useless in my view, but I'm sure
somebody has use for it
Power on by PS/2 keyb Personal Preference
Power on by PS/2 mouse Personal Preference
Hardware Monitor
AI Quiet Disabled
I advice to use freeware Speedfan from
http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php for much better control
of fans. All parameters here will then be irrelevant
anyway. If you choose not to use speedfan, I recommend
Optimal Mode for Fan-settings, and performance-mode
when overclocking
Boot
Boot Device Priority
Boot Settings Configuration
Quick boot Enabled
Full Screen Logo Personal Preference
Add On ROM No use, unless you have PCI-card
with bootROM that messes up your
screen
Bootup numlock Personal Preference
PS/2 Mouse Personal Preference (Recommend
PS/2 over USB anyway)
Wait for F1 Personal Preference
Hit DEL Personal Preference
Interrupt 19 Enabled if you plan using a PCI-
IDE/RAID or SCSI-card with bootROM,
which seems a logical step to take
with the jmicron not working :-)
Security
Blablabla Who, other than possibly corporate
users, will use this now? ;-)

[Severance]

Just got home from work left comp running . This was not stable. Found comp shut down. Had to pull 1 stick out to boot...u guys know the deal. Oh well back down to 3.9 and leave it i guess.

[lawrywild]

I thought that lawry had the bios settings in the first post, but notice now he didn't. Here's a paste from a thread on the asus forums on a slightly different model motherboard, but still applies for us.

Yeh, I asked for people to post up their stable settings but no one wanted to cooporate even though they asked me to...

[yobi]

stable settings for me:)

[Severance]

stable settings for me:)
Have u run memtest with those setts?". If u have thats a great stable mem clock.

[nicepun]

I don't know, but mines a 1.03G and its doing just Fine... it even overclocks like crazy... Managed tio get it up to 465FSB

Screenshot please.


That's a tough call, and a statistically wrong claim.
Have you tested a lot Rev1.03G boards ?
Nope.

Don't make such conclusions without enough research.

Unless the stock ( stock NB cooler, no Vmch ) 475MHz stable rev1.03g that I've got here sucks for you :)

Yes, no vmch but NB cooler. With mods the posibilities are endless.

My Rev1.03G was fine for a month or so, after that it started to downgrade to the point that it could no longer do 390FSB.

When you say...."my mobo does xxxFSB" it would be nice to back it up with some screen shots...You know something like THIS (http://img417.imageshack.us/img417/2834/8x450fsbhr9.jpg).

Yeh, I asked for people to post up their stable settings but no one wanted to cooporate even though they asked me to...

I apologize as I am one of those people. I've been testing different memory sticks as I'm investigating why some sticks do better than other (i.e. D9GHM, D9GKX, and D9 Fatbody).

[BenchZowner]

Screenshot please.




Yes, no vmch but NB cooler. With mods the posibilities are endless.

My Rev1.03G was fine for a month or so, after that it started to downgrade to the point that it could no longer do 390FSB.

When you say...."my mobo does xxxFSB" it would be nice to back it up with some screen shots...You know something like THIS (http://img417.imageshack.us/img417/2834/8x450fsbhr9.jpg).


Try this one for a start :)
http://i11.tinypic.com/4hbw9wx.jpg
By that time I was maxed by my RAM's [ bad-a*s luck OCZ 6400 SOE Urban Micron D9 banana edition ]
Will check the max stable freq & max ram clocking on this board again with my new GeIL 1200+ 4-4-4-12.
Maybe I'll try cleaning the motherboard in order to mod the mobo for more Vmch aswell.

[nicepun]

Try this one for a start :)
REMOVED IMAGEBy that time I was maxed by my RAM's [ bad-a*s luck OCZ 6400 SOE Urban Micron D9 banana edition ]
Will check the max stable freq & max ram clocking on this board again with my new GeIL 1200+ 4-4-4-12.
Maybe I'll try cleaning the motherboard in order to mod the mobo for more Vmch aswell.

Have you tried with 8x?

[pentax]

If your processor died it was more then likely do to torture testing it or high OC IMO. The end results could have been heat or simple electrical failure do to the OC (I forget the technical name for it). Do you recall CPU temps? I've read about this before a while back and that's why I no longer use prime95 for hours/days on end (not saying you did this, I don't know). And I read countless times where an OC CPU is prime95 stable for 12 hours but crashes in a game. Although I cannot say for certain what the actual cause was. I will ask that you have your ram checked as well while you are at it.


My proc temp under the torture was 44C. I thought that was acceptable temp. System was stable also in other aplications/games. As I understand the electronics, one would experience system instability before you frie some equipment. It is not logical for me to burn the proc in the stable (and cool) system. Please someone to correct me on this if I'm wrong.

As far as RAM goes it ran under the manufacturer specified numbers (dual 400MHz - PC800 4,4,4,12 2,15V) so this shouldn't be the problem.

Does enybody know what are the chipset limitation on FSB freqs/voltages?

Thanks.
B.

[Rob Halford]

Stable settings enclosed in file... :fact:

[BenchZowner]

Have you tried with 8x?

Nope, but I'll test this motherboard once again for the review, so I'll be updating this thread with more stuff ( higher stable FSB, highest RAM overclock, etc ) :)

[nessi]

thanx for all the help with my mb, i found the PIO mode problem, a pin in the hard disc connector was pulled back. i just pulled it as the other pins and it works perfectly

[J33pG33k]

Try 450x8. Is the vdimm max value the same, 2.4v? I have family visiting right now so I will not get a chance to play with mine until this weekend.

I tried 450x8 -> no go. So I loosened the memory timings a bit and bumped up the Vmch, Vcore, and Vdimm and still couldn't get the thing to POST. Yes, IIRC the Vdimm is still at 2.4V max. Any other suggestions for getting it beyond 400?

[nicepun]

I tried 450x8 -> no go. So I loosened the memory timings a bit and bumped up the Vmch, Vcore, and Vdimm and still couldn't get the thing to POST. Yes, IIRC the Vdimm is still at 2.4V max. Any other suggestions for getting it beyond 400?

Is there a way you can get a hold of some D9GKX mem sticks? I've come to the conclusion that for some odd reason when it comes to higher 400+ FSB this mobo does not play nice with D9GMH regardless of the high binning. I have some high binned D9GMH and D9GKX and so far this has been my conclusion, of course I'm talking about 450x8 set in bios. Someone out there can prove me wrong. Or maybe it has something to do with the SPD timings that set in the memory itself.

[J33pG33k]

Is there a way you can get a hold of some D9GKX mem sticks? I've come to the conclusion that for some odd reason when it comes to higher 400+ FSB this mobo does not play nice with D9GMH regardless of the high binning. I have some high binned D9GMH and D9GKX and so far this has been my conclusion, of course I'm talking about 450x8 set in bios. Someone out there can prove me wrong. Or maybe it has something to do with the SPD timings that set in the memory itself.
When you say D9GMH you are speaking of the actual chip on the memory module, correct? How, may I ask, do you find this information?

Unfortunately I won't be able to get and other memory for a while, as I just don't have the funding right now (beer and books come first :D ).

[pentax]

J33pG33k,

since we have similar configuration, can you tell me what are your voltages (MB-NB/SB, CPU, RAM) and temperature?


Thanks.

[monza1412]

My Rev1.03G was fine for a month or so, after that it started to downgrade to the point that it could no longer do 390FSB.



Its funny, I think I´ve got the same problem, also with 1.03g. First week I was benching at 450, now, 1 month later, I can´t even boot at 440.
Do you change the thermal paste in the northbridge??
Do you use active cooling in the northbridge?
Its kind of weird a downgrade in such a short period of time.

[lawrywild]

Its funny, I think I´ve got the same problem, also with 1.03g. First week I was benching at 450, now, 1 month later, I can´t even boot at 440.
Do you change the thermal paste in the northbridge??
Do you use active cooling in the northbridge?
Its kind of weird a downgrade in such a short period of time.

I also noticed something similar except mine was not at high FSB. I think it was my e6600 which dropped in clocks

[nicepun]

Its funny, I think I´ve got the same problem, also with 1.03g. First week I was benching at 450, now, 1 month later, I can´t even boot at 440.
Do you change the thermal paste in the northbridge??
Do you use active cooling in the northbridge?
Its kind of weird a downgrade in such a short period of time.

Yep, that sound about right, my kept degrading. I had the NB cooled and never saw temps above 34c.

I also noticed something similar except mine was not at high FSB. I think it was my e6600 which dropped in clocks

That's what I was thinking but recently changed mobos to a 1.02g w/ 1.85vmch and now I'm back to normal. The 1.04G had some issues so I sent it back for RMA.

[xymon]

hi all;)
i have this beautiful board, but i can´t overclock him over 3ghz.
i have an e6600 l624
p5wdh 1707 bios sn:66..
2 gig gskill ddr2-800
vcore i tested with 1,4v now it is 1,3875v
why i can´t overclock higher??

regards from austria;)

[nickfd]

I also noticed something similar except mine was not at high FSB. I think it was my e6600 which dropped in clocks

Ugh. This is starting to happen to me as well. I used to be completely fine and stable at 385x9 1.60vcore 2.30vdimm 1.65vmch with 5-5-5-15 or even slightly tighter timings, and then I changed my hard drive configuration around to go to the ICH7 SB, now mirroring my two raptors as my OS/program files, and a couple of standalone drives as JBOD.

I also added the creative sound blaster x-fi platinum, and since I changed the HDD configs, I had to reload. However, ever since then, I've probably reloaded at least 10 times over the past several days, and even at 333x9 with relaxed mem 5-6-6-18 (my SPD setting), moving my tRFC and tRD to 42-8(or 8-42?), I'm barely stable.

Half the time, soon as I boot into windows, I'll get a bluescreen immediately and the box'll reboot (havent had a chance to turn off auto-restart to see what it is), while other times, I'll get registry complaints, other times certain pieces of my hardware won't work (sound blaster, geforce 8800, even my floppy drive), where usually just a reinstall of the drivers will fix it. I've increased my vdimm to 2.4 and my vcore to 1.61 and I'm still on good temps, but I'm getting *SO* tired of reloading. Seems like soon as I reload my box, it's okay. However, when I start adding drivers (logitech bluetooth mx5000, latest intel chipset, lan, wireless, geforce), then apps (symantec corp antivirus, systool/speedfan, java, nero, azureus), somewhere along the way, things get real unstable and the box will start rebooting, messing up the hardware along the way; at least until I can reinstall the driver and set my tRFC? to 8.

What do you guys think could be my problem? Half the times, programs will crash or complain during installation that a .cab or .msi is corrupted, but I lower my tRFC? to 9, it works. Did I burn out my CPU? MB? Ram? Is there an easy way to test? And what can I do since I'm past my 30 days with all my equipment.

Oh, lastly, I think I remember reading that people had issues with x-fi cards, but that they got resolved in 1707.. I'm on 1707, but I'm curious what issues people had. Maybe tonight I'll try to reload again for the third time today (did two reloads this morning before work) without the sound card in place to see if that's my culprit. I'd hate to get rid of that card, cause when the box is actually working, what you hear out of it is absolutely amazing, and blows away any onboard sound solution on the market today.

Thanks

[nickfd]

hi all;)
i have this beautiful board, but i can´t overclock him over 3ghz.
i have an e6600 l624
p5wdh 1707 bios sn:66..
2 gig gskill ddr2-800
vcore i tested with 1,4v now it is 1,3875v
why i can´t overclock higher??

regards from austria;)

Disable nearly everything in your CPU Configuration, all the stuff below your memory timings in the chipset page, verify that your mem timings are manually set to proper spec that they came out of the box, and manually set your "jumperless config" page per my post a page or so back. Many of us have to push 1.60vcore to our chips to hit reasonable levels, especially those of us with earlier week cpu's, like you will probably have to, since you have an earlier week (24).

Best of luck.

[INJViper]

Its funny, I think I´ve got the same problem, also with 1.03g. First week I was benching at 450, now, 1 month later, I can´t even boot at 440.

Same here... There is no way it should be degrading like this...

[cadaveca]

I've noticed that there is a point with these Intel chips that they will get quite hot from a very small increase in voltage...like say, witha "b" chip, 1.45 is 40c under water, but 1.475 leads to 56c...a big jump for a minor increase.

At the same time this happens, if you run for extended periods, the cpu degrades. For "A" chips this value seems to be around 1.575v or 1.6v, however, for "B" chips it's around 1.45v to 1.5v.

You can always increase votlage a bit more, and get more clocks, but the gains you get will fall off rapidly...at this point you are close to detroying your chip, with the combination of heat and current.

Seems to me the resistor packs on the bottom of the "b" chips is what makes the difference in those...probably smoothing out the power less and delivering more current ot the chip than an "A" would get with it's different resistor packets.


Anyway, watch temps as you start to increase voltage...see that big jump in temps? You are in "TOO MUCH VOLTS FOR THIS CPU" land.


I am unsure is this is sometihng to do with the sodlering of the IHS onto the cpu, and the point at which the solder becomes in-effective @ dealing with the heatload, but it really seems to me that heat is not a major factor in these chips...it's current. Too much, and your cpu is dead, or degrading.

This also seems to apply regardless if the cpu is under water, or under air or phase...as soon as you see that big jump in temps, your cpu is in trouble.

[semiskilled]

So now with my new cpu cooler i idle at 30celsius and now iam more worried about the MB. Probe and speedfan shows 44celsius idle. SB, NB and mofset heat sinks is pretty hot when i touch em.. ive removed the covers on the NB and SB and put some AS5 instead. no AC5 on the mofset, still original there.

[Acidpunk_4]

Thats strange im running my Core2Duo @ 333*9 and get a temp of 23oc

but a tip for the motherboard as ive got mine down to 30oc i just got a Powerfan that i plugged into a Molex and postioned it facing the SB and that basically killed off all the heat

[semiskilled]

This is my rig atm.. i think when i replaced the stock cooler the northbridge dont get any air at all on the heat spreads.

http://img470.imageshack.us/img470/8332/p1190047jp3.th.jpg (http://img470.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1190047jp3.jpg)

[scaramonga]

This is my rig atm.. i think when i replaced the stock cooler the northbridge dont get any air at all on the heat spreads.

A couple of 40mm fans screwed into the North & South sinks does the job nicely! ;) .....makes a hell of a difference :)

That North of yours looks tight with that 'beast' over part of it but if there is 8-10mm clearance you should be OK :)

[semiskilled]

A couple of 40mm fans screwed into the North & South sinks does the job nicely! ;) .....makes a hell of a difference :)

That North of yours looks tight with that 'beast' over part of it but if there is 8-10mm clearance you should be OK :)

hehe.. well theres like 3-5mm clearance =P the beast is an Noctua NH-U12 (http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=1&lng=en).

thinking if i will be able to squeeze a 40mm onto the SB.

i just installed the mofset fan that cames with the MB i thought if the NB gets hot and send the heat to the mofset i will be cooled there at least.. since this cpu cooler blows sideways it wont be interfered as the stock cooler would have.. even read some warnings about it in the manual i think.

but if it wont cut it and i still get to high temps i was wondering about if i really should cut the heatpipe between the NB and mofset just to try installing this one. (http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=7&lng=en) And then i will have to face the cpu cooler to blow up and out through the power supply.

[nickfd]

WZ, lawry, and all that have seen substantial decreases in clock performances with your equipment:

Do you guys recommend buying another CPU as replacement, or going a different motherboard route, or both?

I'm thinking to first start with CPU replacement if my tests this evening are still reacting the same way. If that won't solve the problem, I'm thinking to do motherboard.. Even though we get better performance for our mhz vs the rd600's, I think that with a few bios updates and when ppl figure out tweaks, the rd600's have a good possibility to beat the 975's clock for clock. So probably the DFI RD600. :(

I was so happy at 385x9 and everything was running so well, that it literally breaks my heart that these problems have occurred. I'm eagerly anticipating the launch of Vanguard, and was hoping to eat up the last week and a half of the beta trying out new class/race combinations and exploring as much of the world as possible, but it's hard when you have an unstable, dead box. Hrmpf.

[nickfd]

hehe.. well theres like 3-5mm clearance =P the beast is an Noctua NH-U12 (http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=1&lng=en).

thinking if i will be able to squeeze a 40mm onto the SB.

i just installed the mofset fan that cames with the MB i thought if the NB gets hot and send the heat to the mofset i will be cooled there at least.. since this cpu cooler blows sideways it wont be interfered as the stock cooler would have.. even read some warnings about it in the manual i think.

but if it wont cut it and i still get to high temps i was wondering about if i really should cut the heatpipe between the NB and mofset just to try installing this one. (http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=7&lng=en) And then i will have to face the cpu cooler to blow up and out through the power supply.

BTW- I looked at the pic of that bottom nb cooler you posted. Since I replaced mine with the Thermaltake Spirit II, and since one of my hooks holding it broke, I have a bit of experience in mounting the thing. IMHO, I don't think the arms of that cooler in your url look like they're going to fit well with the hooks of the nb on this mb. You're going to want to have adjustability on how much the arms go out from the center of the cooler, and from the pictures on the website, it looks like it's all stationary.

Your best bet is to go with one of the coolers listed on the first post of this article thread, since we've all used one of those and know they fit without much work.

[nickfd]

Do you guys recommend buying another CPU as replacement, or going a different motherboard route, or both?

I'm thinking to first start with CPU replacement if my tests this evening are still reacting the same way. If that won't solve the problem, I'm thinking to do motherboard.. Even though we get better performance for our mhz vs the rd600's, I think that with a few bios updates and when ppl figure out tweaks, the rd600's have a good possibility to beat the 975's clock for clock. So probably the DFI RD600. :(

I tried playing the stupid enthusiast when calling the intel support line, not mentioning any overclocking, just saying that I tried putting more voltage, and getting more favourable results. They basically said, "if you can post, your cpu is fine," and won't consider replacing it until you try a new motherboard, ram, and psu combination, or at least take them out of the troubleshooting loop.

On the bright side, we can get oem e6600's for just under 300$, but it blows that getting any kind of warranty replacements for free is out of the question soon as you do some mods. :)

[nickfd]

Guess what?! Memtest showed me that one of my 1gb pc8500 dimms was bad. I tried it in different slots to rule out the mb, and it was bad in all, while the other was oki.

Gonna look up corsair's warranty and cross my fingers. I spent a lot of coin on these dimms. Glad to see I'm still able to hit my normal 385x9 and everything's functioning fine. Prime95s are running as I type. Woohoo!

[semiskilled]

My MB temp is 45c according to probe2. i know it shows less then the actual temps but can anyone tell me if this temp is acceptable? iam running only 333fsb with all volt settings set to auto.

[Severance]

54929Booted under 390fsb clockgen up to 430fsb memory at 1.1 dimms needed 2.4 to be stable here. vcore 4.75.

[Redrock32]

What do you think of this..?
Maybe if i lower Vcore the temp will drop a bit?
I'm still in doubt what 24/7 config i will use. This one or 333x9.
At 333x9 i've got more bandwith so..

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o226/menno33/check400_8.jpg

[Severance]

looks good redrock. My temps are low because im chilled liquid cooling. Have u manualy set your mem timings?" try 4.4.4.12. That mem should be able to do it.

[scaramonga]

My MB temp is 45c according to probe2. i know it shows less then the actual temps but can anyone tell me if this temp is acceptable? iam running only 333fsb with all volt settings set to auto.

Kinda high for my liking buddy........mines sits at 29c and I run the same FSB as yourself........;)

[Redrock32]

Severance, is that your idle temp? or stressed (or is it stressed :slobber: )
Do you have water cooling?

I've haven't tried manueel timings with 8x400.
With 9x33 i did, i had 4-4-4-12.
Will try that as well and lower the Vcore.
cheers mate

[Pluppo]

I have an idle temp measured in core temp of 50˚C. Under Orthos load it goes all the way up to 83˚C. Maybe I'm crazy, but so far everything is good. This is my 24/7 setup, 1.425v on my E6600 for 390*9.

I can let you know when I start seeing some problems. Who knows? Maybe I never will :cool:

[Severance]

Severance, is that your idle temp? or stressed (or is it stressed :slobber: )
Do you have water cooling?

I've haven't tried manueel timings with 8x400.
With 9x33 i did, i had 4-4-4-12.
Will try that as well and lower the Vcore.
cheers mate

That was 80% stressed but like i said im water cooling and coolant is chilled to about -10. Also cooling the chipset but without voltmods it does not help much. also the x6800 runs a bit cooler then other chips.

[Ajfina]

IS it "easy" to go over 500fsb with P5W DH . im thinking on getting one of this board, found one for 166 (open box) is that a good price?

[iadstudio]

IS it "easy" to go over 500fsb with P5W DH . im thinking on getting one of this board, found one for 166 (open box) is that a good price?

Decent price but they should be coming down month to month now. 500 is not "easy" but certainly possible.

[SaFrOuT]

from most fo the ersults i have seen 500 is very very hard on 975X mobos specially P5W

if u can wait get the DFI P965

[nickfd]

IS it "easy" to go over 500fsb with P5W DH . im thinking on getting one of this board, found one for 166 (open box) is that a good price?

It is NOT easy to get to 500fsb with this board. Best you can cross your fingers for is mid 400s, however the board performs on par with equivilant 680i and rd600's with their highers fsbs and clocks for some reason. I read quite a few reviews with people that had rd600s that were benching in the 450-500 range that had pretty much the same superpi scores that we get on our 975 in much lower fsb.

Will this change? Possibly and probably with 6months of bios updates and maybe a mb revision or two.

Since my hardware issue just ended up being my ram, i'm not going to replace my mb and just stick with this guy for now. I'm content with my performance even though my cpu is a melon and is walled at ~3450-3500mhz on any multiplier. :mad:

[Eastcoasthandle]

It is NOT easy to get to 500fsb with this board. Best you can cross your fingers for is mid 400s, however the board performs on par with equivilant 680i and rd600's with their highers fsbs and clocks for some reason. I read quite a few reviews with people that had rd600s that were benching in the 450-500 range that had pretty much the same superpi scores that we get on our 975 in much lower fsb.

Will this change? Possibly and probably with 6months of bios updates and maybe a mb revision or two.

Since my hardware issue just ended up being my ram, i'm not going to replace my mb and just stick with this guy for now. I'm content with my performance even though my cpu is a melon and is walled at ~3450-3500mhz on any multiplier. :mad:
Best kept secret they don't want you to know :fact:

[scaramonga]

Don't u just luv ASUS! :D

:rolleyes:

:stick:

[Millyons]

My friend is gonna give me his P5W for testing, cause i might replace my P5B Dlx with it (just otu of boredom) but now im concerned with this degrading of OC over time.....how wide spread is that?

[russea]

Anyone found a solution why the motherboard reboots when one selects shutdown in windows? And no clearing the cmos doesn't help at all.


Same problem here,wonder if there is a fix available yet?

I wanted to be able to Shut down my pc without using the power button so I placed a pci usb card (4 ports) in my computer. That worked just fine, I was able to shut down normally without the annoying restarts.

Just for fun I tried to use the (top 2) usb ports on the motherboard again. Now these 2 ports worked fine too, no more unwanted restarts!

Just to see what would happen next I took the pci usb card out again (after all, the P5WDH Deluxe doesn't have an abundance of pci slots ;)) and again tried the 2 usb ports at the back and amazingly enough they still worked properly, no restarts.

Now, the the unwanted restart problem has shifted from the back usb ports to the 2 front panel usb ports, if I leave anything in these ports during shutdown, the pc restarts!! :rolleyes:

[semiskilled]

Kinda high for my liking buddy........mines sits at 29c and I run the same FSB as yourself........;)

And you dont have any extra cooling for the northbridge or mofsets ? also, what cpu cooler do you use?

[lawrywild]

DutchBBQ just alerted me to 1803 Bios which was on a German site.

Here's a rapidshare link: http://rapidshare.com/files/12544296/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1803.rar

[semiskilled]

DutchBBQ just alerted me to 1803 Bios which was on a German site.

Here's a rapidshare link: http://rapidshare.com/files/12544296/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1803.rar
great! now whats new since 1707 ?

[scaramonga]

And you dont have any extra cooling for the northbridge or mofsets ? also, what cpu cooler do you use?

Just the 40mm fans I told ya about earlier my friend :) .....nothing on mofsets.

Apoggee block on CPU :)

DutchBBQ just alerted me to 1803 Bios which was on a German site.

Hmm.......I sense the usual changes......nothing! LOL :)

[wavelength]

I bought this board on the 5 Jan with the Qx6700 ... gosh what a freaking nitemare, this got to be the worst choice i have ever made in 20 years of playing around with computers.

Here is the email i sent to Asus recently. They have not replied.

RMA Email DETAILS
---------------
Received Date: 1/18/2007 8:37:06 AM
Email Subject: P5WDH ???

Email description:
Dear Asus,

I am writing to inform you regarding my recent
purchase of the P5WDH Deluxe board on the 5th of Jan
in Singapre. After hearing raving reviews about how
this board is, i decided to pair it up with the QX6700
quad core. Having spent over S$2000 on motherboard and
CPU alone, I was excited with the new system. I picked
up the system upon returning home to discover a
shocking 78 degrees on the CPU temperature upon bootup. I returned
to the store. They checked and
there was really nothing wrong. Out of the brilliant
service, they replaced a new Quad core CPU and a new
P5WDH deluxe board. We booted up and the results
dazzled us. It was similar hitting over 70+ degrees.
We crossed checked with another brand 975 board to
discover the temperature was at around 30+ upon
booting up with the new CPU. Suggestion was made to
update the bios 1707 and it cured the flawed readings.
I wonder how Asus have decided to put a Quad core
ready sticker on the box when the temp reading do not
comply!!

I returned home feeling more confident this time. As i
was reinstalled the new OS, I was faced with more than
1 minute wait at the bootup screen, I had to stare at
my own watch as i patiently wait for the so called 1
of the fastest machine available on the island get
into windows. Inside windows, the benchmarks were
great. Outside of it, it boots slower than a pentium3.
Infact the waiting would extend over 2 minutes and i
had to try my luck rebooting. I cannot help but feel
dumb over this bootup affair it was like playing dice.
I rearranged the rams, checked the master slave
relationship of the system. Booted up with 512 ram on
various configurations. The shop could not handle the
situation as such incident was unheard of. This was
extremely strange. I disabled the Q-fans and it helped
alittle.

Just after a day, a new problem surfaced, I have yet
to come to terms with the no signal input with my
monitor and auto cut off on the power supply after 5
seconds. I returned to the store the following day to
learn there was nothing wrong with the Nvidia based
6600 video card upon cross checking with the
technician. I returned home facing a no video signal
and the system cutting the power supply on its own yet
again. So i had to return with system to the shop. I
thought the 550 watter could be the source, so i opted
for a 850watts which seems overkill for the system
running 4 hardrives and 2 dvd writers. It booted fine
and so did the 550watts! Anyway, the shop exchanged
another mobo just incase. I upgraded to 2 slots of 1
gig ddr2 rams to replace the old ones just incase.
Though there was nothing wrong with the 4 slots of 512
that i had, they have tested them in earlier trouble
shoot. With this 3rd motherboard in 1 frustrating week
of running around. I have spent the money and still
without a proper computer to use. 12/13 Jan weekend
was spent on the DIY of the setup, though i had to
return to the store again for a faulty 850watts PSU
whose fan didn''t spin making it the 4th trip to the
shop in a week. I installed windows only to find the
OS was detecting 1 CPU instead of 4 reported from the
bios. I set everything to default and it came up fine.
After hours of hardware arrangements and software
installation, with the early hours of the weekend
morning I am left with blisters on my thumbs. I was
truly exhausted with the whole affair from the week
and remain hopeful for the new computer to work. On
13Jan Sunday, i could not boot the system again after
the long hours i have put into installing the system
myself the day before. Please do not call me a newbie,
I had own 386 i was a kid and had hands on experience
with computers since.

If u may allow me to reinstate on the fact, this 3rd
motherboard has the latest firmware, my hardware are
all new other than a few harddisk and the existing
videocard that is less than 1 year old. I had to
destroy all the hardwork that i have put into
assemblying this system. Stripping it bare, for
testing and flashing, what amazes me is the P5wdh
powers up on it own even with no contact and dies off
a few seconds later. This is a hair pulling
experience.

On Jan 15, instead of seeking the shop for help, I
went to Big3 who distributed the board here in
Singapore. The technician was shock with the board
that boots up on its own once u connect the PSU. The
new board he got from the box with the quad core ready
sticker too reported the temp at 90+ degree cel. I had
to tell him that the bios below 1707 do not work.
Anyway, he willingly exchanged the 4th P5dwh board.
10days have past I do not have a system running. Isn''t
it quite entertaining to realise 4 pieces of P5WDH
cost around the price of 1 unit of QX6700.

So i returned home, installed the new Mobo that was
verified to be ok at the distributor. I had to go
through the whole ordeal yet once again. Building the
system from scratch, i had been going to bed past 3am
for last few days and had taken days off for this.
When i completed building the system, the new mobo
replicated exactly the same problem with booting. What
makes it more interesting is the fact that when i
connect a USB item the mobo would boot up on its own.
I have spoken to tech savy friends, they could not
help but feel sorry for my phlight.

To be fair, I did have doubts on the Quad core
initially, so i sloted in the a 820 chip it booted
fine on with only the video card and ram connected. As
i added the rest, the system would hang at bootup. I
cannot even install windows to test the stability.
This deluxe board is a test to my sanity. And a
complete joke at that price. I have wasted time and
money on the extra trips for exchanges and earn back
similar failures.

I am through with this so called premium board. I have
gone through 4 different boards of the same brand that
refuses to work even on a 1 year old chip that boots
fine on a 945 mobo.

I shared the story with the shop, they were very sorry
for the incident and kindly allow me to choose another
board and even refunded me the difference. Prices had
decrease since i bought my setup and i was setback
with a deluxe board that refuses to work. This is my
last Asus product purchase. If you can kindly inform
what could have gone wrong i am most interested to
know.

In the meantime, I am writing to you from my Quadcore
running on 965 DS4. This thing rocks.

Best regards,

[cuke2u]

Re 1803, I don't know if it was this bios but I've just had my first ever bad flash, it stopped at erasing the bios. Thank god for crashfree bis recovery, system now is up and running with 1803....
ChrisC

[semiskilled]

Re 1803, I don't know if it was this bios but I've just had my first ever bad flash, it stopped at erasing the bios. Thank god for crashfree bis recovery, system now is up and running with 1803....
ChrisC

Ive flashed.. but every time i boot i get "CMOS checksum bad" or something similar. BIOS settings is restored to default values every time i boot :P is it something simpe to solve this error? else back to 1707 =7

[scaramonga]

Re 1803, I don't know if it was this bios but I've just had my first ever bad flash, it stopped at erasing the bios. Thank god for crashfree bis recovery, system now is up and running with 1803....
ChrisC

Nice to know........I'll leave well alone! :D ;) :)

[nickfd]

My friend is gonna give me his P5W for testing, cause i might replace my P5B Dlx with it (just otu of boredom) but now im concerned with this degrading of OC over time.....how wide spread is that?

I thought it was happening to me, since I'm constantly pushing 1.60-1.61 vcore to my cpu, but like i mentioned, my problem ended up being one of the sticks of my ram (which corsair is replacing). In the hundred some pages we have of the thread, there hasnt been a consensus of this happening, just a couple of issues here and there (it may be other parts).

Best bet is to stay away from overvolting your chip, but if you cant help it, then oh well. :) My temps are okay under water, so I'm just assuming the risk I guess.

[nickfd]

I bought this board on the 5 Jan with the Qx6700 ... gosh what a freaking nitemare, this got to be the worst choice i have ever made in 20 years of playing around with computers.

Here is the email i sent to Asus recently. They have not replied.

RMA Email DETAILS
---------------
Received Date: 1/18/2007 8:37:06 AM
Email Subject: P5WDH ???

[.. cut ..]

In the meantime, I am writing to you from my Quadcore
running on 965 DS4. This thing rocks.

Best regards,

Wow man, I really feel for you and what you had to go through regarding your board. There are fixes for pretty much all of the issues that you have if you were to tweak your bios manually a bit, but I'd say go with RD600 for quadcore. The bios is still in its infancy for it, but people have a lot of hope to get their quadcores overclocked well beyond the 975chipset range.

Hope you won't have anymore issues with your rig for a long time!

[semiskilled]

vCore 1.43 in BIOS 1707.
vDIM 2.1
System running at 1:1
All other voltages set to auto.

CPU-Z Validation (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=158896)

TAT load/idle
http://img327.imageshack.us/img327/7754/tat6ba.th.jpg (http://img327.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tat6ba.jpg)

http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/1720/namnls6nn.th.jpg (http://img484.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namnls6nn.jpg)

I noticed that Probe 2 first now at higher OC's have started to shows this 256c cpu temp that i read about. anyone know why this happens?

Is this good hardware i have? or is it average? iam pretty sure it don't suck at least =)

[factory81]

Okay I have some very interesting news to report in my mind.

My friend has this:
Asus P5B (original, and factory BIOS)
E6400 L632A @ up to 3.55ghz w/ memory voltage limiting him on stability, or @ 3.35ghz stable (419 x 8 ) (Scythe Mine)
2GB Team Xtreme 667 @ 4-4-4-10 w/ 42 TRFC @ 2.1v
EVGA 7950GT KO
650w BFG PSU


Not only am I jealous of his memory timings given to him on the LOWEST end 965 board from Asus.

But we both have L632A's.... ( I have E6600 )
You see my signature
I have a WALL. Like a 300% wall....I just can't get past 369 x 9 no matter what. I am going to put my CPU in his machine today because not only does my CPU run hotter. But watch this screenshot of my computer running Orthos w/ Intel TAT running......
First of all my temps are pretty damn hot, one core is 4 degrees hotter at any given time it seems. I am running 1.4v on the vcore in the BIOS.

Alright now I won't post a huge screenshot, but here are the links
Before orthos.......and then while running orthos

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/kicker15L7/before.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/kicker15L7/after.jpg


Are these CPU reports accurate on temps? I felt my heatpipes coming out of the CPU and they feel warm....but not 85 C warm. And then I will fail orthos trying to see how low I can get the voltages and still pass orthos, go in to the BIOS and look at the cpu temp and it might be 62 C or so, meanwhile in TAT my CPU's will idle in a 79 degree room at 75 Cel, and 79 Cel

As I go in Intel's TAT options it does have on demand clock modulation in monitor mode only. And that is selected to processor....so my CPU exceeds 85 Celsius and one of my cpu's multi's goes from 9x to 5x? Because 5x369= 1860mhz.


Why does one of my core's go to 1.86ghz and the other stay at 3.32ghz while in TAT and running Orthos? Is my computer really running at these temps? I don't want to go buy a temp. gun just to find out.....

What I am finding out today is.....what my E6600 does on my friends board with my Scythe Ninja......because I think my P5W DH is messed up. I bought it used from a person who was going the 680 route because he wanted to run SLI 8800GTX's.........
Im seriously considering P5B line-up right now.....

[Millyons]

I thought it was happening to me, since I'm constantly pushing 1.60-1.61 vcore to my cpu, but like i mentioned, my problem ended up being one of the sticks of my ram (which corsair is replacing). In the hundred some pages we have of the thread, there hasnt been a consensus of this happening, just a couple of issues here and there (it may be other parts).

Best bet is to stay away from overvolting your chip, but if you cant help it, then oh well. :) My temps are okay under water, so I'm just assuming the risk I guess.


ok thanks man, thats ok then, there have been also some reports on other boards when lets say it can orthos for days and then next time fail in few min and then orthos for days again, wich also happened to me on my setup....all cool though thanks

[Severance]

I play around and test things with 2 systems.1-asus p5b deluxe,x6800,ocz-flex xlc 1150mhzwatercolled memory,2raptors in raid0. 2-asus p5wdh deluxe,x6800,corsair 8500c5 memory,2raptors in raid 0. The p5bdelux system is at 500fsb mem at 1200mhz. The p5wdh system is at 400fsb mem at 800mhz. All i can say is the p5wdh system blows the other away in everything i use these systems for. Unraring big files,games,just browsing through folders,browsing internet and there is no comparison at all. also intalling os is much faster with p5wdh. it just feels light years faster then p5b.

[topboy]

So just noticed the new 1803 bios is up on 1st page.......Anyone tryed it and have details on what the fixes and bios features are

Topboy

[Strikez]

I bought this board on the 5 Jan with the Qx6700 ... gosh what a freaking nitemare, this got to be the worst choice i have ever made in 20 years of playing around with computers.
Etc...

Best regards,

Dang you are persistent I would have packed it in alot earlier. Not sure if this would help you at all but it has given me a problem in the past installing new motherboards. Check to ensure the case mounting brackets for the motherboard are not shorting out spots on the bottom of the board. Other then that with what you did to try to resolve your issue. It appears it would have to be a compatitbility issue with the CPU. If I was you I would return it and get a 6600 and Overclock it and spend the difference on a better video card. I have this board and have had very few issues with it and it runs my 6600 cpu at 3.1 ghz on air no problem. Good luck.

[wavelength]

Wow man, I really feel for you and what you had to go through regarding your board. There are fixes for pretty much all of the issues that you have if you were to tweak your bios manually a bit, but I'd say go with RD600 for quadcore. The bios is still in its infancy for it, but people have a lot of hope to get their quadcores overclocked well beyond the 975chipset range.

Hope you won't have anymore issues with your rig for a long time!

Tks for your input, it appears ironic that the 975 has been out awhile longer than the 965 with the quad core support seemingly more mature on the 965.
Actually i have lost track on how fast/slow my old 820 compared to the the qx6700 with 2 weeks worth gone for setting up. Its 3 times faster with 3d application like max according to the timing. To solve some of the issues with the P5wdh, I did try a different firmware the 1607 i think but the ez flash utility could no longer function properly as in it does not allow me to choose the rom file from neither my harddisk or USB thumbdrive. I got around by switching jumpers on the mobo clearing the memory on the bios. Under a "new" bios detection i went direct to bring back the function to flash the firmware back to 1707. The bios are indeed screwed.

Long gone are the issues I had faced with the P5dwh with the change to DS4. Infact the benchmarks are identical on both. I see no obvious edge between both, other than the Ds4 being slightly cheaper that is and a hack lot more stable than the Asus cream board. The bios on this gigabyte is up to date from the default bios that came with the board. No more erroneous temp readings, strange bootup problems. Best of all the DS4 doesn't lock the CPU multiplier allowing me to o/c very easily without stressing the rams on stock voltage at 1:1. 3.1ghz can be achieved with multiplier 11 with bus speed set at 282, all voltage set to stock. The P5wdh was locked from 6-10 only. For a moment i thought the cpu was locked?! Tried the asus software on windows... pushed it to 11 and the bios reports it at 6 and pushed the cpu voltage to 1.6V upon boot up this was on 1707 under auto settings!

Its been a few days since the change. The Qx6700 is set to 3 ghz.(11x273) coupled with the thermaltake big typhoon VX temp on both CPU and board are around 45 o/c. I cannot be happier with the current setting after what i have been through. I am avoiding Asus forever.

[wavelength]

Dang you are persistent I would have packed it in alot earlier. Not sure if this would help you at all but it has given me a problem in the past installing new motherboards. Check to ensure the case mounting brackets for the motherboard are not shorting out spots on the bottom of the board. Other then that with what you did to try to resolve your issue. It appears it would have to be a compatitbility issue with the CPU. If I was you I would return it and get a 6600 and Overclock it and spend the difference on a better video card. I have this board and have had very few issues with it and it runs my 6600 cpu at 3.1 ghz on air no problem. Good luck.

Yes i did alot of checkings with no luck, infact i swopped the old 945 mobo into the new casing with no issues. As i am not using the setup for games, I am happy with the 6600 video card. I did thought of the changing to the Duo core2 6600, the shop was accomodating should i need to change over. However, they too find the board could be the source and not the CPU. Having tested the 820 that hung on bootscreen with the p5wdh, I concluded after trying 4 different copies of p5wdh, I am better off with another brand of mobo. I simply wasn't convinced that either the qx6700 or the asus could be that screwed. Asus proved me wrong maybe it works just fine on the Duocore2. After 2 weeks, I have lost track of time somewhat. The DS4 allows me to o/c easily with the qx6700. I am happy at 3 ghz with 667 rams at 1:1 at stock voltage.

[cuke2u]

Hi semiskilled
Re:1803
I don't get any errors when booting up with this bios, maybe a reflash might fix yours...

Does anyone know if the Crucial 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-5300C3 667MHz Tenth Anniversary modules are ok with this motherboard and I can turn off the dreaded SPD and run more agressive memory settings?
ChrisC

[semiskilled]

Yesterday my OC @ 400x8 froze in Half-Life 2 which is very sensitive to oc'ing.
I used vCore 1.43 and vDim 2.1 and the rest set to auto. Now, today I'm using the same vCore and the same vDim.

changed to this instead of auto. took them a snap up from lowest.
vFSB 1.40
vMCH 1.65
vICH 1.20

Half-Life don't freeze and makes the system hang up anymore =)

Now iam wondering which made the system stable. Is there any good programs that i can test the stability of each one of them so i know which one i can lower?

[rpr]

Couple questions for the experts.

1) For those of you using a sound card (i.e. Creative XFi Music), how do you address the RealTek HD audio feature of this board? Is the HD audio feature of this board only for the on board sound, or does it apply to third party cards. I ended up having to install the drivers for the RealTek and then disable the HD Audio in the BIOS in order to get Device Manager to remove the exclamation mark from the RealTek on board audio. Is this the best way to handle this?

2) For those of you using an external wireless router, how do you address the on board wireless? Similar to the situation above, I had to install the drivers and then turn off the "Radio" in the software applet to get Device Manager to remove the exclamation mark from the on board wireless component. If I "Disable" the on board wireless in the software applet (which I believe would be preferable), Device Manager shows it with an exclamation point. Is just turning off the "Radio" how everyone is handling this?

Thanks for the help!

[cuke2u]

Hi rpr, the answer to your second query is that if your aren't actually using wireless then turn off usb 5/6 in the bios. If you are using wireless then all you need to install is the drivers, not run setup from the download. Just update the driver from within device manager and point it to the unzipped folder...
ChrisC

[diction10]

Hi semiskilled
Re:1803
I don't get any errors when booting up with this bios, maybe a reflash might fix yours...

Does anyone know if the Crucial 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-5300C3 667MHz Tenth Anniversary modules are ok with this motherboard and I can turn off the dreaded SPD and run more agressive memory settings?
ChrisC
Yeah Chris the 10th Anniversary works fine. I just purchased these from the Newegg sale and they work great:

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=159097

[Seb R]

factory81...

Finally another user who's having similar temperature readings as me!!

I did post a while back with a screeny, but at that point nobody else had seen it before!

To cut a long story short, I'm pumping 1.55v (in bios at least) through my E6700, running at 350x10. This is with a zalman 9500 and AS5 - the AS5 appears to make no difference from the standard zalman paste.

Maybe we've both got defect boards!?

Just thought I'd say you're not alone!

S

Okay I have some very interesting news to report in my mind.

My friend has this:
Asus P5B (original, and factory BIOS)
E6400 L632A @ up to 3.55ghz w/ memory voltage limiting him on stability, or @ 3.35ghz stable (419 x 8 ) (Scythe Mine)
2GB Team Xtreme 667 @ 4-4-4-10 w/ 42 TRFC @ 2.1v
EVGA 7950GT KO
650w BFG PSU


Not only am I jealous of his memory timings given to him on the LOWEST end 965 board from Asus.

But we both have L632A's.... ( I have E6600 )
You see my signature
I have a WALL. Like a 300% wall....I just can't get past 369 x 9 no matter what. I am going to put my CPU in his machine today because not only does my CPU run hotter. But watch this screenshot of my computer running Orthos w/ Intel TAT running......
First of all my temps are pretty damn hot, one core is 4 degrees hotter at any given time it seems. I am running 1.4v on the vcore in the BIOS.

Alright now I won't post a huge screenshot, but here are the links
Before orthos.......and then while running orthos

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/kicker15L7/before.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42/kicker15L7/after.jpg


Are these CPU reports accurate on temps? I felt my heatpipes coming out of the CPU and they feel warm....but not 85 C warm. And then I will fail orthos trying to see how low I can get the voltages and still pass orthos, go in to the BIOS and look at the cpu temp and it might be 62 C or so, meanwhile in TAT my CPU's will idle in a 79 degree room at 75 Cel, and 79 Cel

As I go in Intel's TAT options it does have on demand clock modulation in monitor mode only. And that is selected to processor....so my CPU exceeds 85 Celsius and one of my cpu's multi's goes from 9x to 5x? Because 5x369= 1860mhz.


Why does one of my core's go to 1.86ghz and the other stay at 3.32ghz while in TAT and running Orthos? Is my computer really running at these temps? I don't want to go buy a temp. gun just to find out.....

What I am finding out today is.....what my E6600 does on my friends board with my Scythe Ninja......because I think my P5W DH is messed up. I bought it used from a person who was going the 680 route because he wanted to run SLI 8800GTX's.........
Im seriously considering P5B line-up right now.....

[phile]

Since building my P5WDH/E6600 rig (see sig for detailed specs), back in August, I have periodically attempted to achieve 400 FSB, without any success. Having tried just about every permutation of clocks and voltages, I accepted that it's just not going to happen, and that at least one component in my setup is refusing to play ball. If I had to guess, I would point the finger at my memory. If that's the case, what I would like to know is which 2GB kit of PC2-6400 memory is the best for this board.

Thanks.

-phil

[Rattle]

its probably your cpu man

[lawrywild]

anyone know what the EEPROM update for the wifi ap solo actually does/fixes?

[Timmaah]

Since building my P5WDH/E6600 rig (see sig for detailed specs), back in August, I have periodically attempted to achieve 400 FSB, without any success. Having tried just about every permutation of clocks and voltages, I accepted that it's just not going to happen, and that at least one component in my setup is refusing to play ball. If I had to guess, I would point the finger at my memory. If that's the case, what I would like to know is which 2GB kit of PC2-6400 memory is the best for this board.

Thanks.

-phil


I'm going to agree with Rattle that it's your cpu, i too have a week 24 and the most ive managed to reach was 392fsb and that was a suicide run which was very unstable.... Stable i can reach 3ghz on stock volts like you though. However, i doubt that the two of us can hit 400 fsb :(

[Rattle]

I'm going to agree with Rattle that it's your cpu, i too have a week 24 and the most ive managed to reach was 392fsb and that was a suicide run which was very unstable.... Stable i can reach 3ghz on stock volts like you though. However, i doubt that the two of us can hit 400 fsb :(


I had one like this, it did do 400fsb barely

[phile]

I can't do 3GHz with anything less than 1.35v in the BIOS. At that setting, though, it typical droops to 1.32. Anyway, I knew the week 24 A was a relatively poor overclocker, but I still figured 400 was doable with enough volts. I think I went as high as 1.6v - just for sh*tz and giggles - and it still wasn't stable. Oh well, one often pays a price for early adoption.

-phil

[Rattle]

I can't do 3GHz with anything less than 1.35v in the BIOS. At that setting, though, it typical droops to 1.32. Anyway, I knew the week 24 A was a relatively poor overclocker, but I still figured 400 was doable with enough volts. I think I went as high as 1.6v - just for sh*tz and giggles - and it still wasn't stable. Oh well, one often pays a price for early adoption.

-phil


yeah mine did 3,0 on 1,35 too, i sold it

[S1mon-]

My week 26A can do 3GHz with stock voltage but now it's at 3,6GHz with 1,56v set in BIOS @ 1,53-54 real...

[scaramonga]

My week 26A can do 3GHz with stock voltage

Most can........in fact I'd say ALL can :)

You would have to be really unlucky to get a chip that wont ;)

[tuxy]

Hi guys, I'm new to the forums.

I am have problems with this board.
My board stopped booting a few days ago. But has been giving me trouble for a while, windows becoming corrupt and did random reboots even when running the cpu at stock. (wasn't sure it was the motherboard at this stage)

I tried loads of things but the only thing that got it to boot was not just reset the cmos bios as normal, but to leave the battery out.

With no CMOS battery in the motherboard boots fine, I can then change setting and get into windows. Cold booting with CMOS battery in (ie some settings saved, even fail safe) and the board will not boot. I can flash the bios just fine and have tried a few different versions, which has not heloped.

So the system is only usable now with no cmos battery in and I have to setup bios each boot.

Can a faulty motherboard corrupt windows?
Has anyone seen anything like this weird boot problem before? It has me baffled.


I hope someone hear can offer some advice , otherwise I will have to try an RMA.

[INJViper]

have you tried replacing the cmos battery with a new one?

[tuxy]

have you tried replacing the cmos battery with a new one?

Yes and no luck :(

[topboy]

Yes and no luck :(

Need some information from you

What bios are you on.
How old is the MB.
What RAM are you running and what are the settings in the bios.

Topboy

[monza1412]

Yesterday my OC @ 400x8 froze in Half-Life 2 which is very sensitive to oc'ing.
I used vCore 1.43 and vDim 2.1 and the rest set to auto. Now, today I'm using the same vCore and the same vDim.

changed to this instead of auto. took them a snap up from lowest.
vFSB 1.40
vMCH 1.65
vICH 1.20

Half-Life don't freeze and makes the system hang up anymore =)

Now iam wondering which made the system stable. Is there any good programs that i can test the stability of each one of them so i know which one i can lower?


vmch at 1.65 made it stable, you can leave the others at auto

[tuxy]

Need some information from you

What bios are you on.
How old is the MB.
What RAM are you running and what are the settings in the bios.

Topboy

Sorry I meant to include all that
bios = latest form the asus site 1707 , but I have also tried 1101 1402 1801(beta) 801. Even though I have this bug when I get into windows i have no problem flashing. Settings in bios are fail safe defaults, as i said I have to reset them just to get the pc to post.

The motherboard is 6 months old

full system
Asus P5W DH Deluxe WiFi (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard
Intel Core 2 DUO E6600 "LGA775 Conroe" 2.40GHz (1066FSB)
NZXT Lexa Classic Series Ultra light Aluminum Midtower
Samsung SH-S182D 18x18 DVD±RW ReWriter (Black)
Connect3D ATI Radeon X1800 XT 256MB GDDR3 AVIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express)
Enermax Noisetaker 485W EG495AX-VE(G) SFMA ATX2.0 PSU
Scythe Ninja Plus Heatpipe CPU Cooler (Socket 478, 754, 939, 940, LGA755)
G.Skill 2GB DDR2 HZ PC2-6400 (2x1GB) CAS4 Dual Channel Kit
Western Digital Raptor 74GB WD740ADFD 10,000RPM SATA 16MB Cache