ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

[WeldZilla]

Well you know what they say.. "Timing is Everything"

WZ

[Lord AnthraX]

Ah ok I just recieved my board today, my E6600 and put it all together

Specs:
Asus P5W DH (duh)
Conroe E6600 31B (YAY)
OcZ GameXtreme 700
WD 80GB SATA
WD 80GB SATA
WD 200 GB SATA
Sony IDE RW Drive


Ok so whenevr Im installing XP I get to the point where all the drivers have loaded and Im at the part where I press enter to go into the setup.


Well it says my hard drives aren't detected so I guess my SATA hard drives aren't working properly or it is a BIOS Issue. It then says rebooting in 15 seconds and it reboots and Yeah im kinda stuck.


I dont know what BIOS im on as I haven't flashed any BIOS, Im just on "stock"



Thanks :)

[lawrywild]

what mode is SATA configured as in bios?

Standard IDE/AHCI/RAID?

ACHI and RAID need drivers to be detected in windows xp installation, standard IDE doesn't

[Lord AnthraX]

Would that be under Chipset then Jmicron Controller ?


Sorry Im a total noob, I never had any of these types of problems on my lanparty.

[Lord AnthraX]

Ok I found it and I set it to SATA.


But now I cant get my CD rom Drive detected. :(


I tried both IDE slots and made sure it was the correct cable and no avail.

The jumper on the CD Rom is set to Master, while I took off the jumpers on all my WD HD's.

[Clump]

You can change from one hard drive controller to another without re-installing. It's irrelevant whether the controller is RAID or not, and it's irrelevant whether it SATA or IDE. But you need Norton Ghost, and enough spare hard drives.

Enable the NEW controller in the bios (or plug in the controller card if the NEW controller is PCI or PCI-E).

Boot windows and install the drivers for the NEW controller.

Power down the PC.

Attach "NEW" hard drive(s) to NEW controller.

Boot PC using MSDOS startup disk. Then run Norton Ghost from a floppy drive and do a DISK-TO-DISK (if you have RAID-0 then Ghost will see the RAID-0 array as one big disk - that's perfect).

Power down the PC.

Remove the OLD drive(s) from the OLD controller, and now boot the PC from the NEW drive(s) that are attached to the NEW controller.

Done!!!! Sounds hard but it's EASY.

If you want to move your RAID-0 drives from one controller to another (using the same drives), all you need is one large spare drive. You Ghost from the RAID-0 drives to the spare drive. Then move the RAID-0 drives to the new controller and then ghost from the spare drive back to the RAID-0 drives.
This is more pretty much what I did, including using Ghost to do it. It does not work with moving from the E-Z ports. When I disconnect the drives from the E-Z ports XP will not boot from the other drive. Doesn't matter if it's on the ICH7 or the JMicron. Maybe I'm missing something simple, but I removed the controllers in device manager, etc.:(

[Lord AnthraX]

Can someone explain what Im doing wrong?


I can't even get into the windows set up any more becuase my CD ROM drive isn't getting detected.


I have the IDE cable from the motherboard box labeled CD ROM FROM the Rom drve to the IDE SLOT under the PCI Slots. The Jumper is set to cable select.

I have my 1 80 GB WD SATA Hard Drive WITHOUT A JUMPER in the First SATA SLOT (RED)


In the Bios Im not sure but in the section where I can select sata, Pata, or SATA + PATA what should I select.


I would really appreaciate it if someone could help me out here. Thanks :)

[mucker]

SATA hard drives do not need jumpers set. Look on the hard drive for pin info (set it to SATA 2 if it applies to your drive)

Make sure the IDE controllers are in auto in the bios, SATA + PATA

Move the jumper on the cd-rom drive to "master". (set the other to slave if you have 2 drives)

Put the master at the end of the cable (the slave on the middle plug)

Make sure the pluugs are in correctly. Red wire is pin #1 on drive and motherboard. See photo of cable here: http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/conf_Cable.htm

[Lord AnthraX]

Excellent!


Thank you very much!


Well now here is my seco

problem


When I press enter to setup windows, it says No Hard drive is reinstalled and I must reboot.

In the BIOS My hard drive shows up as IDE Slave 3 I beilive.

And on the BIOS checksum in the beginning, it says No master IDE HD Found!


What should I do?


Thank you very much for the help.

[mucker]

How many hard drives do you have?

I would disonnect the data cable(s) on all of them except for the SATA drive that you are going to install windows on. That is, make sure you have the power connector hooked up to the drive and the data cable from the drive to SATA1.

Make sure the SATA controllers are enabled in the bios (not Raid SATA). The bios should detect a drive.

If it does, install windows and then connect your other drives.

[Lord AnthraX]

How many hard drives do you have?

I would disonnect the data cable(s) on all of them except for the SATA drive that you are going to install windows on. That is, make sure you have the power connector hooked up to the drive and the data cable from the drive to SATA1.

Make sure the SATA controllers are enabled in the bios (not Raid SATA). The bios should detect a drive.

If it does, install windows and then connect your other drives.


Ah im such a idiot!

forgive me, I had it in SATA3, woops :D

Thank you for your patience, I appreaciate it alot. Now I can begin to overclock my E6600!

I revieved a good stepping to! 31B!

Thanks again mate.

[Lord AnthraX]

If you guys had to pick one BIOS to reccomend, What would it be?

I know most of them are crappy :(


I'd figure Id give 1707 a shot. So I downloaded it and Im not sure what to do with it. I see it in winrar as a rom file. eh someone help me out?

[Huigie]

If you guys had to pick one BIOS to reccomend, What would it be?

I know most of them are crappy :(


I'd figure Id give 1707 a shot. So I downloaded it and Im not sure what to do with it. I see it in winrar as a rom file. eh someone help me out?

How do you know they are crappy for you if you don't even know how to flash a bios... :stick:

[pee4]

This is more pretty much what I did, including using Ghost to do it. It does not work with moving from the E-Z ports. When I disconnect the drives from the E-Z ports XP will not boot from the other drive. Doesn't matter if it's on the ICH7 or the JMicron. Maybe I'm missing something simple, but I removed the controllers in device manager, etc.:(

Did you install the correct drivers for ICH7 (or JMircon) BEFORE you ran Ghost? If your new drive is going to be on ICH7 RAID, you need to have the ICH7 RAID drivers installed before ghosting to the new drive. Or if it's non-RAID you need to have the ICH7 non-RAID drivers installed before ghosting. You don't need to remove anything from Device Manager. If you do all of that and it's doesn't boot then I'm amazed. We're talking WinXP here right? (not Vista). When you run the Ghost, use the Ghost command line option to copy the boot sector. Are you using the Ghost floppy? - because I have never run Ghost any other way.

[Clump]

Did you install the correct drivers for ICH7 (or JMircon) BEFORE you ran Ghost? If your new drive is going to be on ICH7 RAID, you need to have the ICH7 RAID drivers installed before ghosting to the new drive. Or if it's non-RAID you need to have the ICH7 non-RAID drivers installed before ghosting. You don't need to remove anything from Device Manager. If you do all of that and it's doesn't boot then I'm amazed. We're talking WinXP here right? (not Vista). When you run the Ghost, use the Ghost command line option to copy the boot sector. Are you using the Ghost floppy? - because I have never run Ghost any other way.
Yep, installed ICH7, or JMicron (tried both) before Ghosting. Running Ghost from the hard drive. I don't have a floppy installed. Using XP SP2.

[Hajpoj]

I just got this mobo coupled with an E6600(batch B) and 2gb of GSkill ddr2 800. Using a Zalman 9500 for cooling. I want to take this cpu to 3.2Ghz, and I want to know the best way to get there. I will be running 1:1 always, never to surpass 400fsb.

1) Will I be able to hit 3.2 on stock voltages?
2) Is it easier to hit 3.2ghz using a 400x8 fsb setup or 355x9 one?
3) Which fsb will be more stable and/or deliver better performance?
4) Should I just OC to my desired setting of 3.2ghz right off the bat and work from there?
5) For this goal I will only need to play with FSB, ram dividers and vcore? No other voltages should be messed with right?
Thank you for your time!

[Lord AnthraX]

How do you know they are crappy for you if you don't even know how to flash a bios... :stick:


I have READ that they are all crappy.

[nickfd]

Ok, thank you for information. I think I'll go for 1707. And I'll see what can I do :)

I have L627A105 mark on my cpu, so I see you have the same week as I have.
How far did you go with your cpu, and with which voltages??
Merry Xmas to you too!

Hey Nicko,

Best stable with 9x 1:1 i can do is 385mhz fsb 1.57 vcore, 2.3 vdimm (5-4-4-12-28-7), 1.75v MCH = ~3470mhz .. 60c load in prime95 with my memory.. I've tried upping my vcore to 1.65 and still cannot get stable at 400mhz with even relaxed memory timings (5-6-6-18-42-8). I can boot, but i lock up doing pretty much anything..

If i don't stress my box, I'm able to get 385mhz fsb 1:1 with same top settings except 5-3-3-10-28-7 and am able to complete 3dmark06 getting my best score. However, these settings will blow me up if i try to run CCE or ProCoder (videoencoding) or dual prime95's after a while.

I'm hoping that the Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II Northbridge Cooler CL-C0034 I ordered will help me get up to 400mhz fsb w/ 9x. I chose to skip adding a waterblock for the northbridge because i did not want to take any water pressure away from the cpu cooling. Maybe when i raise my vMCH higher (maybe pencil mod), I'll be able to get stable.

My testing with 8x multiplier was only brief, so I can't give you all the specs on what I did, but I know I was able to get it to run at something like 8x423 slightly relaxed memory timings 5-5-5-15 42-8, but I didn't do heavy testing. I'm focusing mostly on the 9x multiplier.

Best of luck, and put your specs in your sig when you find some good stable numbers!

Nick

[Gascogne]

I'm kinda getting sick of not being able to boot higher than 400fsb on this motherboard.

Are there any tips and tricks on how to accomplish this? :stick:

Bios: 1707

[nicko]

I'm kinda getting sick of not being able to boot higher than 400fsb on this motherboard.

Are there any tips and tricks on how to accomplish this? :stick:

Bios: 1707

Check the tips & tricks on the 1. post...everything is explained....
:toast:

[Gascogne]

Check the tips & tricks on the 1. post...everything is explained....
:toast:
Checked it earlier but there is no tips & tricks for being stuck at 400fsb. :)

[Lord AnthraX]

Someone mind helping me out here?

EDIT:

Ok figured out the fsb. (DOH)

Now I need help trying to figure out how to run my ram @ 1:1.

[nicko]

Checked it earlier but there is no tips & tricks for being stuck at 400fsb. :)

Hmm...strange...did you ever run fsb beyond 400mhz?? With older bios?

Are you sure that your cpu can handle 4ghz?? Probably that's the reason...

[Gascogne]

Hmm...strange...did you ever run fsb beyond 400mhz?? With older bios?

Are you sure that your cpu can handle 4ghz?? Probably that's the reason...
Haven't been able to boot above 400 fsb with any bios and my E6700 have done 3.7Ghz on another motherboard so that is not the problem.

I think the problem is that the P5W have problem with 4x1Gb ram oc, would be great if someone could test with 4x1Gb oc and see if they can get higher than 400fsb.

[Lord AnthraX]

Eh the best I can do right now is 390X9 (3510MHz)

Did Super pi 1M, 15 seconds, did 32m, system shut off after loop 2. Obviously not stable.

Checked the temp in the BIOS, reported 67C. I have stock cooler on right now with a 40F Ambient Tempeture on 1.45 Vcore

Any sugestions? What is the stock Vcore and how far can you go with it until it needs more juice?

Tuniq Tower should be coming soon.

[nicko]

Haven't been able to boot above 400 fsb with any bios and my E6700 have done 3.7Ghz on another motherboard so that is not the problem.

I think the problem is that the P5W have problem with 4x1Gb ram oc, would be great if someone could test with 4x1Gb oc and see if they can get higher than 400fsb.

Ok, but 3.7ghz isn't 4...

Ok, try this: Set cpu muliplier to 9, and set memory divider on DDR2 533 (on stock, at 400mhz fsb should be DDR2 800), enable SPD timings, and disable hyper path 3 if you didn't already.

[sevendustweb]

I have an Asus P5W DH motherboard and I am trying to install a Thermalright HR-05 heatsink. I tried using the Asus clip when installing it, but the cheap piece of crap broke. Does anyone have any suggestions for how to get this cooler (or a similar cooler) attached to the motherboard? This is pissing me off.

[Lord AnthraX]

No matter what I do I cannot get 400 FSB.


I disbaled Hyperpath 3 yet no go! How much voltage should I be giving the mobo?

[don_vercetti]

400 fsb should be stock MCH volts. It is for me and several other people anyways. What cooling are you using on the nb?

[Lord AnthraX]

Stock cooling.

I might go ahead and go pick up an aftermarket but I no tempetures are not the issue.


It just loops and loops.

I have enabled disabled SPD Timing meaning I can adjust the timings to my likings but still no avail.

[daos]

Well ladies and gents, I have some good news. I recently sold my OCZ and purchased some Corsair PC6400C4D Dominator memory and fired it up on the ole P5WDH Deluxe. Well, currently at 400x9 with 3-4-3-9 timings running solid as a rock. I just gamed in Rainbow Six:Vegas for about an hour and absolute rock stability with MANUAL timings at 400fsb.

It looks like the Corsaid C4D is capable of running manual timings with a fsb over 360 on the P5WDH.

I just thought I would pass this information along as we are all on a search to find a fix for this bug. Well, this is one way to go about it. Change memory.

[nickfd]

Well ladies and gents, I have some good news. I recently sold my OCZ and purchased some Corsair PC6400C4D Dominator memory and fired it up on the ole P5WDH Deluxe. Well, currently at 400x9 with 3-4-3-9 timings running solid as a rock. I just gamed in Rainbow Six:Vegas for about an hour and absolute rock stability with MANUAL timings at 400fsb.

It looks like the Corsaid C4D is capable of running manual timings with a fsb over 360 on the P5WDH.

I just thought I would pass this information along as we are all on a search to find a fix for this bug. Well, this is one way to go about it. Change memory.

Ugh, this frustrates me. I have the CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145033), and I can't hit 400 with a cpu week that many people can.

Anyone want to buy my memory? Just over 30 days old. :) I'm super ticked cause that Corsair c4d is 100$ cheaper than the stuff I got. And thanks to slow UPS, i won't get my NB cooler til after the new years. Boo!!

[daos]

Ugh, this frustrates me. I have the CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145033), and I can't hit 400 with a cpu week that many people can.

Anyone want to buy my memory? Just over 30 days old. :) I'm super ticked cause that Corsair c4d is 100$ cheaper than the stuff I got. And thanks to slow UPS, i won't get my NB cooler til after the new years. Boo!!


I can honestly say that there is a difference between running 360fsb at 4-4-4-12 and 400fsb at 3-3-4-9 in my games I play. It seems a good bit smoother when playing Rainbow Six: Vegas with the higher fsb and tighter timings. I never really noticed a difference like this with any other CPU/Chipset combos.

Just for the record my memory is Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4D v1.2. On the little sticker that shows the model of the memory it shows v1.2. I thought that might be of help to you guys.

This is one fast motherboard once its working correctly, even at a 'lowely' 400fsb. I cant imagine those of you who run 450 and up. This is all with chipset voltage set to auto. CPU 1.575v 3600mhz load temps 38c/water. Chipset temps are loaded at 35c. Ambient temps are around 22-25c.

Another thing that is of interest is how cool these modules run even under load at 2.3v. I do not feel even the slightest bit of warmth. My OCZ memory was hot to the touch at 360fsb default voltage. Corsair did a very good job with the heatsinks on this memory.

[S1mon-]

No matter what I do I cannot get 400 FSB.


I disbaled Hyperpath 3 yet no go! How much voltage should I be giving the mobo?

My 400 FSB P5W DH needs 1,6V MCH to run it rock stable :)

[nicepun]

Ugh, this frustrates me. I have the CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145033), and I can't hit 400 with a cpu week that many people can.

Anyone want to buy my memory? Just over 30 days old. :) I'm super ticked cause that Corsair c4d is 100$ cheaper than the stuff I got. And thanks to slow UPS, i won't get my NB cooler til after the new years. Boo!!

What ICs on them and what's the price.....LOL Have you tried various BIOS Configurations? You know how people be posting their BIOS settings. Do you have the 1.85vmch or the 1.65vmch mobo? So far doing 400x9 and with the memory @ 1000Mhz CL4 with various memory brands/ICs,etc. hasn't been a problem to me. Also, have you tried giving 2.4vdimm to see what happens?

[Thasp]

Still with the issue of only the 2:3 multiplier working. :( Can't even run DDR400 multiplier at 3-4-4-12 with this memory at FSB 450 and pass memtest, but can pass prime all day with 5-5-5-15 at that memory bandwidth.. this board is junk. :(

[S1mon-]

Guys I'm simply wondering if its normal that when I crank up my E6600 @ 3,2 GHz (400 x 8), I need 1,425v and when I try 3,3 GHz, I need 1,475v...

These voltages seem a bit high considering I got a week 26A CPU... BTW I'm using the stock cooler atm maybe it affects something...

Thanks

[Thasp]

Overclocks aren't supposed to be normal. You're pushing your CPU past where it's supposed to run, there is no real logic to how it will run with a 1 GHz overclock.

I tried memtest the other day, 3-4-4-12 DDR670 with DDR2 1000 4-4-4-12 binned RAM, FSB 450, RAM 2.3v, MCH 1.75, ICH 1.2, FSB 1.4. It failed after six hours and 20 minutes, 15 and a half passes.. it hung there.

Now at that same speed, I can't do more than ten minutes of memtest.

I tried 440 FSB with the same general settings, and it froze after about 25, it rebooted.

I cleared CMOS and tried again.. now it doesn't see my DVD drive when I try to boot off of it to run memtest? It never showed up as a DVD drive in the BIOS, but if I hit F8, I could always choose it to boot from.

This is by far the most borked board I've ever dealt with..

[FabricioGS]

No matter what I do I cannot get 400 FSB.

I disbaled Hyperpath 3 yet no go! How much voltage should I be giving the mobo?

Mine E6600 week 23 can't either. I was able to get 390x9 tops so wouldn't be strange.

[nickfd]

What ICs on them and what's the price.....LOL Have you tried various BIOS Configurations? You know how people be posting their BIOS settings. Do you have the 1.85vmch or the 1.65vmch mobo? So far doing 400x9 and with the memory @ 1000Mhz CL4 with various memory brands/ICs,etc. hasn't been a problem to me. Also, have you tried giving 2.4vdimm to see what happens?

Hey nicepun,

I'm not sure what "IC" is, so my apologies. I'm negotiable on price, send me a pm. :) I only wish that I would have known of you guys on this board shortly after building my rig instead of coming around to it after my 30day warranty with newegg passed.

I have tried *so* many bios configurations that it's not even funny. My mb can go up to 1.85 MCH, which I've tried stock (doesnt help my fsb at all with 9x multiplier). The memory is rated 5-5-5-15@533mhz ddr2, but i'm actually running benchmarks and things at 5-3-3-10 without a problem at 385*9. It's when I try to go higher that I seem to hit a wall.

The CPU is getting 1.57 or 1.58v, ram at 2.3 (it's rated 2.2v), 1.65mch now, but I've tried even pushing 1.65v, 2.4v ram, 1.85mch and havent been able to get over 390 with 9x.

I did try stuff with 8x and was able to run 8x428 with 1.60v to cpu and i don't remember the other settings (was late at night), so I've decided to stick with 9x until I can figure out what my problem is. I know the NB cooling will help, but from what I've read on this board, other people with my ram are not able to clock it high on this mb. On nforce680i chipsets it's just fine, cause I saw several people in their forums with same cpu and mem able to hit it without a problem.

Edit: I'm thinking it would probably be easier to sell my mb and buy the nforce 680 one than selling the ram, but I may run into an issue if I do the NB mod (unless I put it back). Anyone know if the Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II Northbridge
Cooler CL-C0034 would be compatible on the nforce 680i NB ?

[Lord AnthraX]

So I tried your suggestion with 1.6 Vmch +400 fsb and it dosen't even boot.


*sigh*


Time to send this back to newegg? Im not sure :(

[Trackfan]

sorry....double post....see below

[nicepun]

lawrywild - Maybe you can put "Optimal Bios Settings" so people can try them first as starting point. Just a suggestion. Of course the various people can submit their bios settings to you.

[Lord AnthraX]

I think I may send this back to newegg and get a P5B-Deluxe.

Or I could get an E6700 and with the 10X Multi be happy with 370 FSB @ 3.7 GHz. But that would be more exspensive. Also, does updating the bios to 1707 help the FSB? Im on 1407.


+1 for optimal Bios settings. That would be great.

[Trackfan]

Can somebody please recommend solid BIOS config to boost E6600 / Corsair Twin2X2048-6400PRO by 10-15%? Mobo is giving me fits. Bios is 1606. Running 266MHz x 9, FSB 1068, Core 1.31V, 5-5-5-12 to maintain 2.4 GHz clock. However, sometimes rig runs only 1.6 Ghz with 6x multiplier for some strange reason. Using CNPS9500CU cooler in P180 case with decent fans, PSU is EnerMax’ EG701AX
Also wrestling:
-controller conflicts AHCI, jmb and sil (AHCI and Ez Raid0 don’t get along)
-windoze reset of XP theme (Luna, sound, screensaver, ACPI )
-unreliable dual monitor support

I’ll work through periphal issues but like to dial-in solid Bios config first . So I came to the source….


Cheers
FP

[syne_24]

lawrywild - Maybe you can put "Optimal Bios Settings" so people can try them first as starting point. Just a suggestion. Of course the various people can submit their bios settings to you.


I agree, this would help out a lot of the new users because there are so many pages in this thread it would be a constant over n over same stuff being said. I myself have said these optimal settings before, keep in mind to only use it as a guideline since every setup is different and no guarantee when overclocking.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1836526&postcount=2100

[Lord AnthraX]

Hey syne I'l give that a shot, it looks good! :)

But yeah, Unless I can get over 420 FSB, I will probably be sending this board back and getting an Asus P5B Deluxe/WiFi. I need high fsb :)

[Omarko]

guys ...

I read an article on Madshripms about C2D and mem timings where it was said that they are not important as much as they used ot be on AMD systems.

the difference in performance in most cases is between 2-3%

so if my 667Mhz ram runs at 825Mhz at 5-6-6-18 ... who cares right?

[Lord AnthraX]

syne_24 I wrote down all your information and I punched it in my BIOS.

Im using 1407.

I then saved it all, rebooted, and to my amazement for the first time ever, Windows was loading!:D

But then when windows was done loading, I got a BSOD, and my system went back to defualts again.

Would the new BIOS fix this? I wouldn't mind flashing or using asus's EZ Flash, but I odnt have a floppy drive.

[Lord AnthraX]

lawrywild - Maybe you can put "Optimal Bios Settings" so people can try them first as starting point. Just a suggestion. Of course the various people can submit their bios settings to you.


Hey I was looking in your signature and I saw you have the same BIOS as me and are @ 3.6 GHz.


Could you post all your settings maybe? I would REALLY appreaciate it.


EDIT: I demand to know how you obtained such a high FSB on your 4GHz Bench? Please :D

[lawrywild]

Dear sir/madam,

Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Service.
My name is Penny. It's my pleasure to help you with your problem.

I'm sorry that in the BIOS of P5W DH Deluxe, there isn't the option tRFC for memory to configure. For memory configuration, please enable "Configure DRAM Timing by SPD" in BIOS. The system will get the exact information from your memory directly. Or you may use a third party software to adjust in Windows. Sorry for any inconvenience that caused to you.

Wish you a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

If you have any problem, please refer FAQ(Frequently Asked Questions) or contact us again. We will try our best to help you.
http://support.asus.com/faq/faq.aspx?SLanguage=en-us

Sincerely,

Penny
ASUS Customer Service Center(China)

GREAT! That helps so much.. :slap:

[lawrywild]

lawrywild - Maybe you can put "Optimal Bios Settings" so people can try them first as starting point. Just a suggestion. Of course the various people can submit their bios settings to you.

Yeh ok, when I get some time.

But settings for stock? What oc? etc?

Everyone start posting bios pics please. (pics (camera) preferred to text) :)

[Tarowah]

I just picked up a used P5W DH from a friend but I dont have any of the install disks, I am not going to be running raid just a SATA drive, will I need to download anything other than the Yukon drivers to get the board up and running?

[DutchBBQ]

I just picked up a used P5W DH from a friend but I dont have any of the install disks, I am not going to be running raid just a SATA drive, will I need to download anything other than the Yukon drivers to get the board up and running?

Latest drivers:
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20061112200624969&board_id=1&model=P5W+DH+Deluxe&page=1&SLanguage=en-us

[Omarko]

can you guys tell me the following please:

1. what voltage will I need to most likely use to get to 3.2Ghz with my E6400 ? 1.45V ?

2. Will I have to up the MCH voltage at such high FSB or leave auto ?

3. Leave SPD setting to enabled?

my ram can pull 800mhz at 2.0V and spd enabled (meaning timings are adjusted automatically)

[iadstudio]

I asked this in Extremeoverclocking.com but this seems like a better thread for the question. IF I'm setting up 2 RAID 0 arrays on this board, what should I do?

1 EX backup one southbridge? 2 southbridge?

I have 2 WD Raptor 36gb for the OS and 2 Seagate 250gb for files. Any suggestions?

[catscit]

I asked this in Extremeoverclocking.com but this seems like a better thread for the question. IF I'm setting up 2 RAID 0 arrays on this board, what should I do?

1 EX backup one southbridge? 2 southbridge?

I have 2 WD Raptor 36gb for the OS and 2 Seagate 250gb for files. Any suggestions?


use the 3 ports located together and 1 orange port.
all 4 ports show up in intel matrix raid and you can configure what you want there.

[Thasp]

GREAT! That helps so much.. :slap:

Too bad this limits you to a single operating system.

What if my overclock requires certain RAM timings to get to windows? They're assuming I am windows stable before setting the subtimings. I can't get to windows at DDR890 at 450 FSB. My friend with the infinity from DFI that was $50 cheaper can.. and he can run memtest for five minutes. This was after tweaking ONE SUBTIMING that I told him about over the phone, from the auto of 7, to 9. If I could tweak the drive strengths and the rest of them, I could probably get him a prime95 and memtest 8+ hrs stable system. But here.. there's nothing. It's useless. I got what I deserved for buying a board with built in wifi and DIGITAL HOME written on the front box. Gimmicks, yes. Good overclock, no. Now where's that RD600? :)

Hey I was looking in your signature and I saw you have the same BIOS as me and are @ 3.6 GHz.


Could you post all your settings maybe? I would REALLY appreaciate it.


EDIT: I demand to know how you obtained such a high FSB on your 4GHz Bench? Please :D

Incase you wouldn't mind my assistance.. my CPU is close to yours. Lower the FSB to 400 and set the RAM up a single notch from the bottom divider, which is what I used here.

FSB 450
DDR670
PCI 33 MHz
PCI express 100 MHz
CPU 1.55 vcore
RAM 2.3 vdimm
FSB termination voltage 1.4
MCH voltage 1.75
ICH voltage 1.2

RAM timings set manually, to 4-4-4-12, with all the bullcrap disabled, and the bottom options left to auto in the chipset options.


P.S.
I like how almost no motherboard manufacturer has real english speaking tech support. Please refer FAQ! Yeah, make $250-$400 boards that are worse than the $170 DFI one and still have tech support in China. Another win for ASUS! :)

(is it obvious this board disappoints me?)

[lawrywild]

Dear sir/madam,

I will feed back your requirement to our interrelated department. If there is any further information we will release on ASUS website immediately. Sorry for any inconvenience that caused to you. Please pay attention on the following URL:
http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&model=P5W%20DH%20Deluxe&type=BIOS

Sincerely,

Penny
ASUS Customer Service Center(China)


---------- Original Message ----------
From : lawrywild
Sent : 2006-12-28 7:53:28
To : "tsd@asus.com.tw"
Subject : Re:Re:<TSD> Motherboard P5W DH Deluxe

[CASEID=WTM2006122875287190]

"I'm sorry that in the BIOS of P5W DH Deluxe, there isn't the option tRFC for memory to configure. "
Yes, thanks, I KNOW that since that's why I sent this email in the first place. That is no good, users of
this motherboard NEED tRFC to become an option in the BIOS. PLEASE just forward this to someone
in your BIOS department. Seriously, it would be a lot easier for me and you to just forward this to
someone who can actually do something about it.

Thanks.


---------- Original Message ----------
From:ASUS TSD
To:lawrywild
Date:2006-12-26 18:21:30

Dear sir/madam,

Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Service.
My name is Penny. It's my pleasure to help you with your problem.

I'm sorry that in the BIOS of P5W DH Deluxe, there isn't the option tRFC for memory to configure.
For memory configuration, please enable "Configure DRAM Timing by SPD" in BIOS. The system will
get the! exact information from your memory directly. Or you may use a third party software to adjust in
Windows. Sorry for any inconvenience that caused to you.

Wish you a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

If you have any problem, please refer FAQ(Frequently Asked Questions) or contact us again. We
will try our best to help you.
http://support.asus.com/faq/faq.aspx?SLanguage=en-us

Sincerely,

Penny
ASUS Customer Service Center(China)




---------- Original Message ----------
From : lawrywild
Sent : 2006-12-23 2:53:44
To : "tsd@asus.com.tw"
Subject : <TSD> Motherboard P5W DH Deluxe



[CASEID=WTM20061223253213982]



Apply date : 12/23/2006 2:53:21 AM
[Contact Information]
*Name : Lawrence Wild

[Problem Description]
Hi,

Ever since I have bought this board, it has been impossible to run over 356fsb stable without having
to set Memory Timings to SPD Ena! bled which results in a measly 5-6-6-18-21 timings which is
extremely poor. If I set timings manually I can't POST above 356fsb but if I set SPD timings to Enable,
I can POST up to 420fsb.

There is a lengthy discussion in my thread here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=110193

and MANY MANY others have the same problem.

using MEMSET 3.0 (a windows timing adjuster) it has been found out that the problem of this is the
tRFC value. Using SPD timings the tRFC is set to 42 and allows a FSB of up to 465 for my board.
When timings are set manually (4-4-4-12) I get a tRFC of 35 and the board gets extremely unstable
and the FSB cannot go above 370 without freezing. I can boot into windows at 356fsb with 4-4-4-12
timings set, then using MEMSET 3.0 to adjust tRFC to 42 and then use Clockgen (a windows fsb
adjuster) and I can go all the way to 465fsb so it obvious that the tRFC value is causing this problem.

Myse! lf and many others (see my thread I linked to earlier), using a whole range of different memory
brands, ICs etc, have been waiting months for a BIOS update where tRFC is a option in the Chipset
timings settings. But still, months later there is still no option and we are limited to boot at 356fsb or
lower. For the insane amount of money I paid for this motherboard, I think it is outrageous that such a
small, simple option that could fix everyones fsb problem with this motherboard has still not been
added to the BIOS. Whereas, on your cheaper motherboard (P5B Deluxe etc) you have had the
tRFC option in the BIOS since the very beginning)

PLEASE PLEASE let your BIOS department know of this issue, so it can be resolved. It is just one
simple bios option to fix a hundreds of peoples fsb problem.

I can assure you that if this issue is not fixed, you're going to lose a large segment of future enthusiast
customers. I for one won't be buying another ASUS motherboard after my experience with this one.
I'! ve had about 5 ASUS motherboards before this and all were good, but this one has changed my
mind on your company completely and you will no longer receive my money.

Thank You.


Well, lets see what happens now :cool: IMO she'll just not bother :rolleyes:

[nicepun]

Hey I was looking in your signature and I saw you have the same BIOS as me and are @ 3.6 GHz.


Could you post all your settings maybe? I would REALLY appreaciate it.


EDIT: I demand to know how you obtained such a high FSB on your 4GHz Bench? Please :D

I PMed you with some info. Also, I did not do anything special for high OC. I booted into windows 440x9, then used ClockGen for the rest.


Yeh ok, when I get some time.

But settings for stock? What oc? etc?

Everyone start posting bios pics please. (pics (camera) preferred to text) :)

I'll post pics later.

[nickfd]

Hi all,

I was determined to run some additional tests to see what may be my limiting factor on why I cannot get over 3500mhz with my e6600 and I think it's the actual CPU itself. If it's not based on my conclusions which I will write below, please correct me.

As I just updated and posted in my sig, my best stable with 9x 1:1 i can do is 1.57 vcore, 2.3 vdimm (5-3-3-10), 385mhz fsb = 3470mhz, but slightly better performance (in 3dmark06) at 8x 1:1 1.61 vcore, 2.4 vdimm (4-4-4-12), 440mhz fsb, 3520mhz. As you see, about 3500mhz is the max I can go, and if I try anything higher, no matter how much vcore I put to the cpu, maxing out my vdimm (2.4v) and mch (1.75v stock cooling thus far), even relaxing the memory as much as I can, it just won't do it.

When I do 400x9 with SPD settings for mem (rated 5-5-5-15), it gives me 5-6-6-18. I'm able to boot into windows with 1.60 vcore, and since i don't have my notes in front of me, I can't give you the complete specs.. but I drop the tRFC to 8, set the mem to 5-6-6-18 42-8, and am unable to complete a run of 3dmark06 or any stressing app without a lock. I upped the vdimm to 2.4 (max choice), vcore to 1.65, and mch to 1.75v with still no results.

Then I started messing with the 8x multiplier a bit more, which got a bit interesting. Previously, my stable and happy clock at 9x is 9x384(5) ~3465mhz, with dual prime95s good and a reasonable 3dmark06 score, so I decided to change the multiplier to 8x and use memset and clockgen to continuously update the information to find the best stable info.

Riddle me this.. I was able to go up to 8x 1:1 1.61 vcore, 2.4 vdimm (4-4-4-12 42-7), 440mhz fsb, 3520mhz and got my absolute highest 3dmark06 numbers. Previously, my highest numbers were 9x 1:1 1.57 vcore, 2.3 vdimm (5-3-3-10 28-7), 385mhz fsb = 3470mhz. However, even when I lowered some of the middle ram timings outside of the CAS in 8x, I actually got lower scores, which didn't make much sense to me.

Btw- all while doing this, all my hardware was either cool or only very slightly warm inside the case. I could barely feel heat coming from the top, side, and heatpipe on the NB (no mods), and the ram was only slightly warm to the touch. I remember reading that some people were actually able to feel the hotness on the NB to the point where they could not keep their fingers on it for more than a second, but it's not the case with me.. Maybe my watercooling and the HUGE amount of CFM and number of fans that are circulating air around the case.

So ultimately, I retract my offer of selling the ram since I can actually get great results out of lowering the cas to 4 (which I didn't think I could do), and really raise the fsb on 8x multiplier,

Do you guys think I hit the max on my CPU since in both scenarios I'm just around 3500mhz?

Thanks, and no more spending 6hrs tweaking settings anymore (until the new NB cooler comes in). :)

[OldCoot]

Is anyone using a Plextor 755 SATA or Plextor 712 SATA drive with success?

Plextor's website has a fairly restrictive list of compatible motherboards with these drives and the P5W DH Deluxe isn't on the list.

If anyone is using one, which SATA port is it connected to? My ports 1 & 3 are already used up for RAID 0.

Thanks

[Unbornchild]

Hi all,

I was determined to run some additional tests to see what may be my limiting factor on why I cannot get over 3500mhz with my e6600 and I think it's the actual CPU itself. If it's not based on my conclusions which I will write below, please correct me.

As I just updated and posted in my sig, my best stable with 9x 1:1 i can do is 1.57 vcore, 2.3 vdimm (5-3-3-10), 385mhz fsb = 3470mhz, but slightly better performance (in 3dmark06) at 8x 1:1 1.61 vcore, 2.4 vdimm (4-4-4-12), 440mhz fsb, 3520mhz. As you see, about 3500mhz is the max I can go, and if I try anything higher, no matter how much vcore I put to the cpu, maxing out my vdimm (2.4v) and mch (1.75v stock cooling thus far), even relaxing the memory as much as I can, it just won't do it.

When I do 400x9 with SPD settings for mem (rated 5-5-5-15), it gives me 5-6-6-18. I'm able to boot into windows with 1.60 vcore, and since i don't have my notes in front of me, I can't give you the complete specs.. but I drop the tRFC to 8, set the mem to 5-6-6-18 42-8, and am unable to complete a run of 3dmark06 or any stressing app without a lock. I upped the vdimm to 2.4 (max choice), vcore to 1.65, and mch to 1.75v with still no results.

Then I started messing with the 8x multiplier a bit more, which got a bit interesting. Previously, my stable and happy clock at 9x is 9x384(5) ~3465mhz, with dual prime95s good and a reasonable 3dmark06 score, so I decided to change the multiplier to 8x and use memset and clockgen to continuously update the information to find the best stable info.

Riddle me this.. I was able to go up to 8x 1:1 1.61 vcore, 2.4 vdimm (4-4-4-12 42-7), 440mhz fsb, 3520mhz and got my absolute highest 3dmark06 numbers. Previously, my highest numbers were 9x 1:1 1.57 vcore, 2.3 vdimm (5-3-3-10 28-7), 385mhz fsb = 3470mhz. However, even when I lowered some of the middle ram timings outside of the CAS in 8x, I actually got lower scores, which didn't make much sense to me.

Btw- all while doing this, all my hardware was either cool or only very slightly warm inside the case. I could barely feel heat coming from the top, side, and heatpipe on the NB (no mods), and the ram was only slightly warm to the touch. I remember reading that some people were actually able to feel the hotness on the NB to the point where they could not keep their fingers on it for more than a second, but it's not the case with me.. Maybe my watercooling and the HUGE amount of CFM and number of fans that are circulating air around the case.

So ultimately, I retract my offer of selling the ram since I can actually get great results out of lowering the cas to 4 (which I didn't think I could do), and really raise the fsb on 8x multiplier,

Do you guys think I hit the max on my CPU since in both scenarios I'm just around 3500mhz?

Thanks, and no more spending 6hrs tweaking settings anymore (until the new NB cooler comes in). :) From your sig:
>>> CPU: e6600 (L627A906) Rev B2 2.4ghz @ ~3.5ghz / MB: ASUS P5W DH Deluxe (1707 bios) / Mem: Corsair XMS2 2gb DDR2 1066mhz (PC2 8500) 5-5-5-15 <<<

I wouldn't recommend set the CAS latency to 4, when the SPD says 12 on 800Mhz, 15 on 1066 Mhz, or you may expect errors.

To your question "Do you guys think I hit the max on my CPU since in both scenarios I'm just around 3500mhz?" i would say no, that is not the max.
I have the same CPU, mobo and RAM as you [Corsair XMS2 2gb DDR2 PC2 8500].
I have E6600 @ 3.6 Ghz - 400 FSB -9x 1:1 - Ram 800 Mhz (x2, Dual Channel) @ 4-4-4-12; 1.5725 vcore, 1.9 vdimm.

Tested stable daily even during the heaviest gaming. Zalman CPNS9500 CPU cooler keeps it just under the 82 degrees Celsius limit.
3DMark06 CPU score=3184.

http://www.jozefdekkers.nl/Trforum/Computer/3dmark06-xp-ati612-28dec06.jpg

[monza1412]

Tested stable daily even during the heaviest gaming. Zalman CPNS9500 CPU cooler keeps it just under the 82 degrees Celsius limit.



Ouch... 82 degrees!! I think thats to much..

[pphx459]

From alot of the posts I just read (only sucka at work), it seriously sounds like your cpu's cannot handle 400 fsb.

I've owned a few e6600's and all their max oc is different. Some of them reached a highest of 390 while others went past 420. A few points I want to point out with these chips:

1. At their max OC (while on air/water), no matter how much voltage applied, it will not run stable.
2. If your cpu requires you to run 1.6vcore and if each increase in fsb requires you to raise the vcore then it's near it's limit.
3. If your cpu can't go past 400x9 but can hit 440x8, then it's near it's limit.
4. You can overclock these chips quite a bit using stock voltage. Of all the 6600's I owned, they all did 3.0ghz (330x9) on stock voltage. Don't be surprised if all of a sudden the next 5mhz requries you to pump a ton more voltage. You're about to hit your limit soon.

Please understand this before you start putting the blame on this board. I haven't had trouble with it since day 1, and I'm sure there are quite a few others that would agree.

Edit: Merry Xmas to all and happy new years!
Edit: correcting typo.

[nicko]

@nickfd:
Hi, I also have cpu from 27 week, and I think that around 3.6ghz is cpu limit with normal vcore....

I must tested it yet, beacouse I didn't have time to do that before...

When I finish, I'll post the result here...

@Unbornchild:
Why do you think that the CAS 4 is too much @800?? It's perfectly normal, mostly depends on ram that you use...
And I also think that 82 deg. is way too much for cpu....you'll kill it....

EDIT:
@pphx459:
I totally agree with you...thx for the explanation about some things to the others...

Cheers!

[Unbornchild]

No, 82 degrees is the max allowed according to Intel themselves (couldn't find the link atm, i'll edit when i've found it). Anyway, mine stays at 81 at full stress load.

Here you see a list of other CPU's temps: http://www.technibble.com/what-is-my-computers-maximum-cpu-temperature/
:)

[scaramonga]

Of all the 6600's I owned, they all did 3.0ghz (300x9) on stock voltage

Yup......runs easily at that........what I run mine on 24/7.

I can do 400x9 easily too.....but only after setting RAM to SPD in BIOS and vCore at 1.6v. 1-5Mhz over this and no boot whatsoever.

My tRFC when running at 'Manual' timings is showing as 28 and 42 when set to SPD.

Week 29 chip.

[Lord AnthraX]

Get your self a Sycthe Kama Bay Cooler, and Lap your C2D so you can stay int he 70 range.

[pphx459]

No, 82 degrees is the max allowed according to Intel themselves (couldn't find the link atm, i'll edit when i've found it). Anyway, mine stays at 81 at full stress load.


There's a difference between maximum and preferred. Heck, it's your chip, nothing we can really say. :)

[DutchBBQ]

JMicron provides a much better AND newer driver than ASUS:
ftp://driver.jmicron.com.tw/jmb36x/Win2k_xp_Vista/

-Much lesser CPU usage
-IDE drives automatically run at UDMA mode rather than PIO mode (if supported)

[lawrywild]

From alot of the posts I just read (only sucka at work), it seriously sounds like your cpu's cannot handle 400 fsb.

I've owned a few e6600's and all their max oc is different. Some of them reached a highest of 390 while others went past 420. A few points I want to point out with these chips:

1. At their max OC (while on air/water), no matter how much voltage applied, it will not run stable.
2. If your cpu requires you to run 1.6vcore and if each increase in fsb requires you to raise the vcore then it's near it's limit.
3. If your cpu can't go past 400x9 but can hit 440x8, then it's near it's limit.
4. You can overclock these chips quite a bit using stock voltage. Of all the 6600's I owned, they all did 3.0ghz (300x9) on stock voltage. Don't be surprised if all of a sudden the next 5mhz requries you to pump a ton more voltage. You're about to hit your limit soon.

Please understand this before you start putting the blame on this board. I haven't had trouble with it since day 1, and I'm sure there are quite a few others that would agree.

Edit: Merry Xmas to all and happy new years!

Firstly, 300x9 is not 3Ghz, it's 2.7Ghz :rolleyes:

and either:

1. You know not much at all

or

2. You havn't even bothered to read the thread properly

Anyway, since you're such a genius, please tell us noobs why we can get over 400fsb with tRFC changed to 42 and setfsb and yet always limited to around 360fsb in bios with manual timings, no matter vcore/multiplier etc.

Actually, here's a better riddle. Why can we boot 400fsb+ with SPD to Enable but when manually setting 5-6-6-18 we can't post above about 360-370 fsb?

I'd like to know what the answer to that would be.. yeh and don't say the board/bios since we already know that and you'd just end up contradicting yourself and looking stupid.. :toast:

[Luis_GT]

Firstly, 300x9 is not 3Ghz, it's 2.7Ghz :rolleyes:


Actually, here's a better riddle. Why can we boot 400fsb+ with SPD to Enable but when manually setting 5-6-6-18 we can't post above about 360-370 fsb?

I'd like to know what the answer to that would be.. yeh and don't say the board/bios since we already know that and you'd just end up contradicting yourself and looking stupid.. :toast:

Not everyone is affected by that though ;)

[jameskk]

i have an e6600 with a scythe ninja rev.b on a p5w-dh-deluxe. i cannot get 3.2 ghz (400 x8) stable unless i bump mch up to 1.85 v ... is that reasonable? i have stock chipset cooling, but i replaced the thermal paste with ac5 and tore the cover off the heatsink. Will the northbridge run too hot on 1.85 in this situation? Should i get myself an HR-05 heatsink or maybe reduce my overclock?

[nicepun]

i have an e6600 with a scythe ninja rev.b on a p5w-dh-deluxe. i cannot get 3.2 ghz (400 x8) stable unless i bump mch up to 1.85 v ... is that reasonable? i have stock chipset cooling, but i replaced the thermal paste with ac5 and tore the cover off the heatsink. Will the northbridge run too hot on 1.85 in this situation? Should i get myself an HR-05 heatsink or maybe reduce my overclock?


Yes, I have to do it to mine as well (1.85vmch). If you want you can put a small fan (http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/50milfan.html) on it or you can buy an after market NB cooler. How does it feel to the touch? Anyway, it's up to you but cooling it down won't hurt.

[pphx459]

Firstly, 300x9 is not 3Ghz, it's 2.7Ghz :rolleyes:

and either:

1. You know not much at all

or

2. You havn't even bothered to read the thread properly

Anyway, since you're such a genius, please tell us noobs why we can get over 400fsb with tRFC changed to 42 and setfsb and yet always limited to around 360fsb in bios with manual timings, no matter vcore/multiplier etc.

Actually, here's a better riddle. Why can we boot 400fsb+ with SPD to Enable but when manually setting 5-6-6-18 we can't post above about 360-370 fsb?

I'd like to know what the answer to that would be.. yeh and don't say the board/bios since we already know that and you'd just end up contradicting yourself and looking stupid.. :toast:

oops typo, and my reference wasn't for the whole thread, just to some of the other complaints in the later posts.

[lawrywild]

Not everyone is affected by that though ;)

Yes but it's still down to tRFC. If asus put more timings in the bios, no one will have the problem.. therefore it IS the board that's the blame. When was the last time you heard of someone with a badaxe/aw9d have this problem?

[nanoprobe32]

Firstly, 300x9 is not 3Ghz, it's 2.7Ghz :rolleyes:

and either:

1. You know not much at all

or

2. You havn't even bothered to read the thread properly

Anyway, since you're such a genius, please tell us noobs why we can get over 400fsb with tRFC changed to 42 and setfsb and yet always limited to around 360fsb in bios with manual timings, no matter vcore/multiplier etc.

Actually, here's a better riddle. Why can we boot 400fsb+ with SPD to Enable but when manually setting 5-6-6-18 we can't post above about 360-370 fsb?

I'd like to know what the answer to that would be.. yeh and don't say the board/bios since we already know that and you'd just end up contradicting yourself and looking stupid.. :toast:


i dont think trfc option is going to do you any good
i have the p5w64 WS and it has those 2 options
refresh cycle time & read delay i leave both auto
and i can boot over 400fsb only with micron memory

with elpidia i couldn't do this not matter what trfc i gave it
or read delay

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6605/memsetcq3.jpg

as you can see memset timings are the excact same as your p5w dh

i dont have any problem hitting 420 fsb 1.1 memory dont even have to touch trfc setting or read delay

[pr33tz]

OK, I can get to 434 fsb with everything on default except vcore (1.48), pci express (105) and pci (33.3). What should I do next do try and get past the 434 fsb barrier? Also, I haven't tried setting the spd to manual because frankly I don't know what I'd be doing. What spd timings should I try?

[flashnc]

go up on the vmch to 1.65

up the vcore to 1.525

keep an eye on temps for the cpu....its ok to run into the 60-65c area or a little higher...( using "coretemp" ) to monitor...others have run their systems higher than that on temps with no stability issues...personally i try to keep it lower than that unless just pushing for the highest clock....

[pr33tz]

What do mch, ich and fsb voltages control? Whats a safe max vcore to try before giving up?

[S1mon-]

Is anyone using a Plextor 755 SATA or Plextor 712 SATA drive with success?

Plextor's website has a fairly restrictive list of compatible motherboards with these drives and the P5W DH Deluxe isn't on the list.

If anyone is using one, which SATA port is it connected to? My ports 1 & 3 are already used up for RAID 0.

Thanks

I'm using the Plextor PX-755 SATA and it works perfectly :)

[lawrywild]

i dont think trfc option is going to do you any good
i have the p5w64 WS and it has those 2 options
refresh cycle time & read delay i leave both auto
and i can boot over 400fsb only with micron memory

with elpidia i couldn't do this not matter what trfc i gave it
or read delay

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6605/memsetcq3.jpg

as you can see memset timings are the excact same as your p5w dh

i dont have any problem hitting 420 fsb 1.1 memory dont even have to touch trfc setting or read delay

Well I already know that tRFC will help since I can change it with memset and go up to 465 fsb...

[fordf250]

From alot of the posts I just read (only sucka at work), it seriously sounds like your cpu's cannot handle 400 fsb.

I've owned a few e6600's and all their max oc is different. Some of them reached a highest of 390 while others went past 420. A few points I want to point out with these chips:

1. At their max OC (while on air/water), no matter how much voltage applied, it will not run stable.
2. If your cpu requires you to run 1.6vcore and if each increase in fsb requires you to raise the vcore then it's near it's limit.
3. If your cpu can't go past 400x9 but can hit 440x8, then it's near it's limit.
4. You can overclock these chips quite a bit using stock voltage. Of all the 6600's I owned, they all did 3.0ghz (330x9) on stock voltage. Don't be surprised if all of a sudden the next 5mhz requries you to pump a ton more voltage. You're about to hit your limit soon.

Please understand this before you start putting the blame on this board. I haven't had trouble with it since day 1, and I'm sure there are quite a few others that would agree.

Edit: Merry Xmas to all and happy new years!
Edit: correcting typo.

I would like to thank you for this post. I get the same as you, I have 1 e6400 that will run 445fsb no prob at around 1.6V on water, 425 at 1.4V 435 at 1.55V and 445 at1.6Vm, they ramp up quick. I also have an e6600 that will not run over 400fsb on the same board at any vcore.My memory at 400 will run 1:1 at 4-4-4-12 2.25V and mch 1.65 or 4:5 (500mhz) at 2.35V and 1.75mch both turbo no hp3.This mb is one of the better mb I have owned and I think most peoples problems are with there cpu also.

[Thasp]

Are you allowed to put 1.6v into an e6400/e6600 without instantly killing it?

My radiator is in the window, with three fans intaking the 25F-35F outside air. At 1.55v, if I turn my pump speed up I get 40c coretemp with prime95.. I'd love to try and see what more it can do.

[lawrywild]

OK... so why did some people buy some teamgroup d9 and could boot over 400fsb.. same cpu yet without the D9 they couldn't post over about 360-370 like me..? It's tRFC..

[fordf250]

Trcf? Is that the 5th number that cpuz shows for memory timmings?It changes when I change the ram speed.16-22.
Also my ram will not even post if set to spd at 400fsb or any timmings other than 4-4-4-12.

[Brian y.]

Quick question......
My E6600 runs rock stable at 400x9 w/ my ram(Corsair 8500)@ 4-4-4-12 timings.This is with my v-core @ 1.53.My highest bench OC is at 445x9 w/ my ram at 2.2v. in a 1/1 ratio @5-6-6-18. I can get into windows up to 465...but not able to bench.I have been able to get mt ram up to 500MHz with the 5-6-6-18 timings and the multi at x8. Why is that I can not go past 400 FSB when my my CPU is at a x8 multi no matter how high I up my v-core?(This includes when I set the ram ratio to 1/1 to run with the x8 multi)

[lawrywild]

Trcf? Is that the 5th number that cpuz shows for memory timmings?It changes when I change the ram speed.16-22.
Also my ram will not even post if set to spd at 400fsb or any timmings other than 4-4-4-12.

No, that would be Trc

[Unbornchild]

There's a difference between maximum and preferred. Heck, it's your chip, nothing we can really say. :)
You are absolutely right.

I was talking about the T-junction, explained here: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/howitworks.html
and it is CoreTemp that i used, next to the IntelThermalAnalysisTool tat.exe
From the Intel sheet that i still haven't found yet i read the 6600's T-junction = 82° C
That is what i monitored during Orthos stresstest, 9 hours @ 3.6 Ghz without error i find sufficient. Higher clocked, i got alarms from CoreTemp, and TAT reported CPU 0 = 79 ~ 81 / CPU 1 = 80 ~82 (the limit). But at 3.6 Ghz also CPU1 stays just below the 82° C limit. Well, Orthos is 100% CPU-load. Not many games put a 100% load on the Core2Duo 6600, as you may know. ;)

Idle temp of my 6600 while i'm typing now is 45° C. <<<[EDIT: this time i mean the Asus Probe temp. And during gaming (Dark Messiah of Might and Magic) the top temperature is 58° C AsusProbe temp. Hmm... you see: the Zalman is doing a great job. ;)]

Get your self a Sycthe Kama Bay Cooler, and Lap your C2D so you can stay int he 70 range.
I wanted the Tuniq Tower, but it was too hard to get a hand on one. So i took the Zalman CNPS9500, as it had very good test reviews.
Besides the Zalman cpu cooler i have a Cross Flow Fan blowing over the motherboard in my fine Cooler Master Stacker.

A question, Lord AnthraX. Are you saying that lapping the cpu could gain me 10° C??? If it's true, i'll seriously consider lapping!

[Lord AnthraX]

You are absolutely right. A question, Lord AnthraX. Are you saying that lapping the cpu could gain me 10° C??? If it's true, i'll seriously consider lapping!


I'm guessing the Kama Bay Cooler could lower temps a little bit, as it would push more air through the exhaust and help out the 9500 as that's what it was designed for. Dual kama bays could make a significant change if your wires don't clog up the 3.5" bays.

And I believe lapping the CPU will give you a 3-6 decrease:) Although dont quote me on that ;) Ask someone thats done it :stick:

[Luis_GT]

Yes but it's still down to tRFC. If asus put more timings in the bios, no one will have the problem.. therefore it IS the board that's the blame. When was the last time you heard of someone with a badaxe/aw9d have this problem?


I know, I know, I'm just saying that I can run up to 899mhz 3-3-3-4 before it won't post... Asus Really needs to give us those timings.

[Lord AnthraX]

http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledvp8.jpg

BIOS 1407
BIOS SETTINGS
JumperFree Configuration
AI Overclocking set to: MANUAL
CPU Frequency : 443 FSB
DRAMM Frequency :884 MHz
Performance Mode : Standard
PCI Express Frequency : 111Mhz
PCI Clock Sync Mode : 33.33Mhz
Memory Voltage : 2.40V
CPU Vcore Voltage : 1.6725v
FSB Termination V : 1.50v
MCH Chipset V : 1.85V
ICH Chipset V : 1.20v
--------------------------------------------------------
CPU Configuration
****Default CPU Ratio : Disabled
****Ratio CMOS Setting: [9]
Microcode Update : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
Execute Disable Function : Disabled
CPU Internal Thermal Control : Disabled
Virtualization Technology : Enabled
Intel SpeedStep Technology : Disabled
--------------------------------------------------------
*Advanced Chipset Settings
*Configure DRAM Timing By SPD : Disabled
*DRAM CAS Latency : 5
*DRAM RAS Precharge :4
*DRAM RAS To CAS Delay : 4
*DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge Delay : 16
*DRAM Write Recovery Time :4
Hyper Path 3 : Disabled
DRAM Throttling : Disabled



Yeah.

Im trying to get to 4GHz.

I am pumping ALOT of vcore into this baby. I can go 1.7 And have alright temps. Im freezing my ass off right now. Stock voltage it idles at 6C.

Any way. I used clock gen to go to 4.0 GHz. And I did 1m and It finished but 14 seconds. I guess it needs even more voltage. I might go 1.7 when my tuniq comes here.

After I get a benchable 4.0GHz Im going to get 8+ hours orthos at 3.6 :)

Oh btw BIOS 1407 have been good for me. No problems here.

[Lord AnthraX]

oops sorry :( double post.

[2BIG4U]

Asus P5W DH Deluxe BIOS 1707
E6600
Tuniq Tower 120
G.SKILL HZ 2GB 6400
WD 250GB Sata 16mb
ATI 1950XT
Zalman VF900
Antec P180 Silver

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/132/img0024qh0.th.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0024qh0.jpg)

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7401/img0025gs2.th.jpg (http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0025gs2.jpg)

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/9736/img0026pz7.th.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0026pz7.jpg)

I can`t change the fsb? what is wrong? Maybe i should change some jumpers or something like that? Couse i just put all parts together, updated bios and changed a few settings in bios. What should be the settings of the bios for E6600? can anybody do the favour? Write (or make screenshots) bios setting from the from beginning to end? help please.

[Lord AnthraX]

2BIG4U type a number when you highlight the FSB :)

[2BIG4U]

ok. i will try. tell me what voltages should be?

[nickfd]

Hey all, sorry, I got busy after I posted my results and questions yesterday with finding a Wiiiiiiiii, and ended up playing it to the wiii hours of the morning :p:

Thanks for all your feedback regarding the wall I ran into. When i get my new NB cooler, I'll examine the bottom of my cpu waterblock and lap if necessary, lap the new NB if necessary, and reapply as5 everywhere. When I'm pushing load at 1.61v required for me to be stable at 8x440, my cores on CoreTemp are in the 70s.. I think it should be cooler for my water setup.

@Unbornchild - I'll try and run my 3dmark with my best settings and get the CPU score out of it for ya. I know the overall with 8x440 1:1 4-4-4-12 42-7 I got a total score of 11220. Screenshot will come after I get my zelda wii fix for a few hours (later tonight) :)

Happy Friday and hope everyone enjoys your day!

[FabricioGS]

That's because you have a week 23, your results look the same as my week 24... except I need more volts to reach 3.4ghz than you

lawrywild, how much vcore do you need to 3.2GHz? Are you using this setup 24x7?

[lawrywild]

lawrywild, how much vcore do you need to 3.2GHz? Are you using this setup 24x7?

1.4v real :(

and yeh, course

[J33pG33k]

Well ladies and gents, I have some good news. I recently sold my OCZ and purchased some Corsair PC6400C4D Dominator memory and fired it up on the ole P5WDH Deluxe. Well, currently at 400x9 with 3-4-3-9 timings running solid as a rock. I just gamed in Rainbow Six:Vegas for about an hour and absolute rock stability with MANUAL timings at 400fsb.

It looks like the Corsaid C4D is capable of running manual timings with a fsb over 360 on the P5WDH.

I just thought I would pass this information along as we are all on a search to find a fix for this bug. Well, this is one way to go about it. Change memory.
Hello all! I've been following this thread since late August in anticipation of building a new machine. You guys are a great resource! Thanks to the holiday, I now have a shiny new C2D system! :D

Just recently daos reported that his Corsair 6400C4 Dominator memory was working well. Unfortunately that is not the case for me. Only 1024 of 2048 mb is recognized no matter how it is installed (leading me to think that I have an issue with one of my modules) and that is causing it to run in single channel mode only. I have played a little with the BIOS settings with no luck.

Any suggestions? After the excitement of receiving parts all week long in the mail, this has been quite a bummer. :(

[FabricioGS]

1.4v real :(

and yeh, course

Mine is very strange. Needs 1.3625v to 3.0, 1,425 to 3.1 and 1.475v to 3.2 :eek:

Do you think 1.475v to 24x7 is too much? :stick:

[fritzman]

J33pG33k : I would suggest the first thing you do, is try each module on it's own. If they both work individually, and memtest individually okay, then the issue is either with the board, or at least compatibility with the board.

Let's know how you get on with that first up.

Oh, and by the way (just noticed it's your first post here)... welcome!

[lawrywild]

Mine is very strange. Needs 1.3625v to 3.0, 1,425 to 3.1 and 1.475v to 3.2 :eek:

Do you think 1.475v to 24x7 is too much? :stick:

If those are bios settings, then they're the same as mine so..

[gaddster]

Firstly, 300x9 is not 3Ghz, it's 2.7Ghz :rolleyes:

and either:

1. You know not much at all

or

2. You havn't even bothered to read the thread properly

Anyway, since you're such a genius, please tell us noobs why we can get over 400fsb with tRFC changed to 42 and setfsb and yet always limited to around 360fsb in bios with manual timings, no matter vcore/multiplier etc.

Actually, here's a better riddle. Why can we boot 400fsb+ with SPD to Enable but when manually setting 5-6-6-18 we can't post above about 360-370 fsb?

I'd like to know what the answer to that would be.. yeh and don't say the board/bios since we already know that and you'd just end up contradicting yourself and looking stupid.. :toast:

Lawrywild, you are possibly the most patronising and 'know it all' troll that these boards can do without. So many of your posts are uneccessarily rude it defies belief. There really is no need for it and all you succeed in doing is causing bad feeling and not actually progressing the issues a lot of us with this board are having.

I'm sure no one cares what you think about all us idiots who make the odd mistake now and again so why not leave out the sarcasm and rudeness and keep it to yourself eh? :toast:

[nickfd]

Mine is very strange. Needs 1.3625v to 3.0, 1,425 to 3.1 and 1.475v to 3.2 :eek:

Do you think 1.475v to 24x7 is too much? :stick:

Look at your temperatures in CoreTemp in idle, full load, and ultra full load (prime95/orthos). Some people say that full load (gaming, etc) is good enough for them to be in the 70c's or lower, others are happy with reaching 70c's in orthos. I'm pushing 1.61vcore with water and my cores hit 70-72 in prime95.

Good luck with your tweaking!

[nickfd]

Hello all! I've been following this thread since late August in anticipation of building a new machine. You guys are a great resource! Thanks to the holiday, I now have a shiny new C2D system! :D

Just recently daos reported that his Corsair 6400C4 Dominator memory was working well. Unfortunately that is not the case for me. Only 1024 of 2048 mb is recognized no matter how it is installed (leading me to think that I have an issue with one of my modules) and that is causing it to run in single channel mode only. I have played a little with the BIOS settings with no luck.

Any suggestions? After the excitement of receiving parts all week long in the mail, this has been quite a bummer. :(

If only 1024 of 2048 memory is being recognized, you do probably have a bum dimm. I'd agree with above poster, to try each individual dimm to figure which one is bad.

I didn't bother reading the instructions of the board once I knew which pinheaders to plug my case (power,reset,audio,usb) and hdd's into, but thanks to a few people in here, they pointed out that to get Dual Interleaved memory, you have to put your dimms in the same coloured slots. Got 2? Use either black, black, or orange, orange. However, when i had them in different coloured ones, I still reported 2048 memory, it just didn't say Dual in cpu-z or Dual Interleaved while booting.

[lawrywild]

Lawrywild, you are possibly the most patronising and 'know it all' troll that these boards can do without. So many of your posts are uneccessarily rude it defies belief. There really is no need for it and all you succeed in doing is causing bad feeling and not actually progressing the issues a lot of us with this board are having.

I'm sure no one cares what you think about all us idiots who make the odd mistake now and again so why not leave out the sarcasm and rudeness and keep it to yourself eh? :toast:

Sorry if I sounded rude but I'm getting tired of writing the same thing over and over.. you should really look how many times I've explained the same thing over and over in this same thread..

edit: oh and it's kind of annoying when someone says "you should take this into account before blaming the board" as if I haven't already spent hours trying to figure and sort this out? Get my drift??

[lawrywild]

Hello all! I've been following this thread since late August in anticipation of building a new machine. You guys are a great resource! Thanks to the holiday, I now have a shiny new C2D system! :D

Just recently daos reported that his Corsair 6400C4 Dominator memory was working well. Unfortunately that is not the case for me. Only 1024 of 2048 mb is recognized no matter how it is installed (leading me to think that I have an issue with one of my modules) and that is causing it to run in single channel mode only. I have played a little with the BIOS settings with no luck.

Any suggestions? After the excitement of receiving parts all week long in the mail, this has been quite a bummer. :(

One stick is probably dead :(

Can you test it in another machine/a mate's machine?

[Prelim]

Lawrywild, you are possibly the most patronising and 'know it all' troll that these boards can do without. So many of your posts are uneccessarily rude it defies belief. There really is no need for it and all you succeed in doing is causing bad feeling and not actually progressing the issues a lot of us with this board are having.

I'm sure no one cares what you think about all us idiots who make the odd mistake now and again so why not leave out the sarcasm and rudeness and keep it to yourself eh? :toast:

*EDITed by IFMU*
Two warnings here.
1st, flaming is not allowed.
2nd, bypassing the word filter.
So, since I am in a nice mood, you will be recieving a single warning. If I catch this again, it will go straight to a minimum 3 day vacation.
Got it?

IFMU

read the thread 1st....talk later

Lawrywild isnt alone, me and MANY MANY other users spend more time comproving the mobo faults than you, capiche?

[WeldZilla]

Voltage? I run with my FSB set at of 425 daily which keeps my 2 little cores chugging along @ 3825mhz my voltage is set at 1.65 in the bios. I have never ran my voltage below 1.6v since I got my Conroe.

WZ

[Huigie]

:caution:

[J33pG33k]

J33pG33k : I would suggest the first thing you do, is try each module on it's own. If they both work individually, and memtest individually okay, then the issue is either with the board, or at least compatibility with the board.

Let's know how you get on with that first up.

Oh, and by the way (just noticed it's your first post here)... welcome!

Is it possible to run one memory stick at a time? When I insert only one into any of the four slots, all I get is one long beep followed by two short beeps and the screen stays black.

Other than that, any combination of the two sticks still only reports 1024...I'm really depressed right now. I'm going to call a friend and see if I can get them tested today. Thanks.

[WeldZilla]

Youy Know people said the same thing about my running 1.675 into my 2.4C and my 3.0C. People all freaked out about SNDS. Funny it never happened. My 2.4C is going on three years of high voltage and it still runs daily at 3637mhz and my 3.0C is 2 1/2 years old and it still runs daily at 4037mhz. I have no fears about running this Conroe at 1.65 set in the bios which is actually a little more than 1.6. If voltage scared me I would buy a dell. But instead I buy parts and build Xtemely fast and stable computers...THAT LAST..

WZ

PS. Contrary to popular belief the SKY is not falling....

[lawrywild]

Youy Know people said the same thing about my running 1.675 into my 2.4C and my 3.0C. People all freaked out about SNDS. Funny it never happened. My 2.4C is going on three years of high voltage and it still runs daily at 3637mhz and my 3.0C is 2 1/2 years old and it still runs daily at 4037mhz. I have no fears about running this Conroe at 1.65 set in the bios which is actually a little more than 1.6. If voltage scared me I would buy a dell. But instead I buy parts and build Xtemely fast and stable computers...THAT LAST..

WZ

PS. Contrary to popular belief the SKY is not falling....

Ya, I ran 1.65v bios (1.6v actual) for about a week on air but at the end of the day it wasn't really worth it over running 3.2ghz 1.4v actual so I dropped back down.

[WeldZilla]

Well on air I would say you are doing the right thing. I have not aircooled one of my systems for years. liquid is just so much better. I like that fact it help to keep the variation in temps down to a minimum. I also like the fact that it lets me run 3.8ghz daily without so much as a single hiccup. The rendering work it has done has more than paid for it. I encourage everyone to go liquid and run 6400HZ D9GMH This board is picky about memory and I can tell you it adores this stuff.

WZ

[lawrywild]

Well on air I would say you are doing the right thing. I have not aircooled one of my systems for years. liquid is just so much better. I like that fact it help to keep the variation in temps down to a minimum. I also like the fact that it lets me run 3.8ghz daily without so much as a single hiccup. The rendering work it has done has more than paid for it. I encourage everyone to go liquid and run 6400HZ D9GMH This board is picky about memory and I can tell you it adores this stuff.

WZ

Well, yeh I would if I had a money tree.. but I don't :(

[fritzman]

Is it possible to run one memory stick at a time? When I insert only one into any of the four slots, all I get is one long beep followed by two short beeps and the screen stays black.

Other than that, any combination of the two sticks still only reports 1024...I'm really depressed right now. I'm going to call a friend and see if I can get them tested today. Thanks.

Should be possible to run just one stick alright. I would be trying that memory in another PC if possible... I suspect that it might be okay, but that the board might be a problem (if you can't run either of the sticks alone on that board)

[WeldZilla]

Yes you may well have a board problem. Have you as of yet tried plugging them into another board? Have you run cpuz and clicked on the mem tab?
Just to make sure you did not get to miss marked 512 sticks? Still it makes no sense that it start with both but won't with one. Go into your bios and turn your mem volts up to 2.1 or more. and try to manually set your timings. I would not try to OC anything. Just run your mem 1:1 and set your timings at 4-4-4-12 to start. run cpuz to see what it is seeing maybe your sticks just don't like to fire at low voltage.
1: Enter bios
2: Turn mem voltage to 2.1V
3: Set mem on the 1:1 ok 533
4: Do not OC cpu
5: Disable SPD and set timings at 4-4-4-12. While you are there go ahead and disable Dram ECC mode, Hyper Path 3, Dram Throttling Threshold and memory remap
6: run cpu-z click on the mem tab and see how much mem it says you have and see if it is running in Dual channel.
7:If you are up to these tasks than give them a go. If not let us know we will get more specific.

WZ

[sam95ta]

Any one know what the new bios 1801 fix.

[Tarowah]

I got my system up and running with alot of help from this thread, thanks to everyone that posted information that helped those of us that are new to the board.

Here are a couple of shots of what I am sitting on now, not the best overclock or cable management in the world but hey its mine =)


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-3/980990/P5WOC.JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-3/980990/CompSized.JPG

[nickfd]

I got my system up and running with alot of help from this thread, thanks to everyone that posted information that helped those of us that are new to the board.

Here are a couple of shots of what I am sitting on now, not the best overclock or cable management in the world but hey its mine =)


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-3/980990/P5WOC.JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-3/980990/CompSized.JPG


Looks like a nice box! I noticed you have a copper cpu waterblock, but could not see where your cabling was going. What setup do you have, and where are your radiator, pump, and resevior ?

[pancito]

I can run stock volts till 3.15 after that i need extra juice currenty i'm at 3.6 at 1.4 volts. (1.37v real) after that i hit a wall it has something to do with my WC Northbridge or my CPU hitting a wall. I have run this combo at 3.8 24/7 stable but didn't write down all the volts and tweaks and now i can't recreate it.

IMO it's not worth it those 200mhz for day to day usage.

This thread i think has gone way way out of scope, we need to clean it a bit. 1 big first initial thread is needed with all the day to day stuff.

[Tarowah]

Looks like a nice box! I noticed you have a copper cpu waterblock, but could not see where your cabling was going. What setup do you have, and where are your radiator, pump, and resevior ?




That is an Exos 2 kit, the unit is sitting on top of the case, the block is the CPU-300-V13.


Another question, is the PWM temp the "MB" temp that I am seeing in PC Probe? If not what will show me the pwm temps on this board?

[NghtShd]

Is it possible to run one memory stick at a time? When I insert only one into any of the four slots, all I get is one long beep followed by two short beeps and the screen stays black.

Other than that, any combination of the two sticks still only reports 1024...I'm really depressed right now. I'm going to call a friend and see if I can get them tested today. Thanks.
Yes, you can run one stick at a time.

When it didn't boot with one stick did you try the other stick by itself? Maybe the stick you tried in the board alone (resulting in no boot) was the bad one. It sure sounds like you've got one bad stick and one good one.

[fhpchris]

Voltage? I run with my FSB set at of 425 daily which keeps my 2 little cores chugging along @ 3825mhz my voltage is set at 1.65 in the bios. I have never ran my voltage below 1.6v since I got my Conroe.

WZ

Thats what I like to hear!

:)

Larry, just ignore the haters! I have similar problems with "experts" of this caliber frequently, so just take it from me to try ignoring them first :)

[BulldogPO]

Damn, I updated bios 1707 over 1705 and now only Vcore option is auto.
How can I fix this?

[lawrywild]

Damn, I updated bios 1707 over 1705 and now only Vcore option is auto.
How can I fix this?

Have you checked that only Microcode Updation and VT are enabled in the bios? All the rest disabled?

Sometimes I noticed that when I update bios, it for some reason enables EIST or something randomly.. :rolleyes:

[BulldogPO]

Yeah, it was user error.
EIST was enabled.

But I have other weird things going also, in boot when mobo is looking for IDE devices it takes a long time, with 1705 I did´nt have this.

[lawrywild]

Yeah, it was user error.
EIST was enabled.

But I have other weird things going also, in boot when mobo is looking for IDE devices it takes a long time, with 1705 I did´nt have this.

try changing all the IDE devices that aren't in use to Not Installed. You can change those settings on the first page of the bios.

[Gascogne]

Where can one find memset and what value should tRFC be? Perhaps it can help me get passed the 400 fsb barrier.

[Falkentyne]

Youy Know people said the same thing about my running 1.675 into my 2.4C and my 3.0C. People all freaked out about SNDS. Funny it never happened. My 2.4C is going on three years of high voltage and it still runs daily at 3637mhz and my 3.0C is 2 1/2 years old and it still runs daily at 4037mhz. I have no fears about running this Conroe at 1.65 set in the bios which is actually a little more than 1.6. If voltage scared me I would buy a dell. But instead I buy parts and build Xtemely fast and stable computers...THAT LAST..

WZ

PS. Contrary to popular belief the SKY is not falling....

Sorry to say that I've messed up three 3.4C northwoods, one severely, by running over 1.575v. The first one degraded so bad (originally it was rock solid at 3.9 ghz 1.675v, but that slowly nosedived) that it wouldn't even finish POST at 3.7 ghz stock (1.55v), and the max overclock at stock became 3.5 ghz. I was lucky enough to get half my money back by selling it on oc.com forums as a stock chip. And being disabled, I can't go around wasting money like that.

Even my P4EE, which has never seen more than 1.6v for more than a few hours (had it at 1.60v for awhile at 3.79 ghz; usually 1.575v) has degraded to the point (over 2 years) that it sometimes blue screens at 3.70 ghz 1.575v, where once it was rock solid at 3740 ghz, *stock*. SNDS on northwood series is very real and it cost me a lot of money. Please don't go around saying it's not real just because it didn't happen to you. I believed what other people had posted back then and am thus several hundred dollars poorer. Do you have any intention of wiring me money for the $$ I wasted? :fact:

[Gascogne]

Anyone with shutdown problem? Whenever I select shutdown in windows the mobo just restart...

[Clump]

Anyone with shutdown problem? Whenever I select shutdown in windows the mobo just restart...
Are you running the latest X-Fi drivers? If not, try updating them. I had all sorts of shut down and restart troubles running the X-Fi drivers from the CD that went away after the update.

[WeldZilla]

Falkentyne you are a prime example of a, "I need a Dell or Compaq Computer user" Gawd where is my crying towel. In every group there is someone who just had all the bad luck. Well I believe we make our own and if you had problems with processors at such low voltage settings then you quite frankly you are not qualified to be an overclocker and should get out of forums so you don't get co-erced into to doing something you shouldn't. You also admit that you are a unethical pile of garbage. Selling a processor you knew was bad to some poor bastard for any price is not right!! Thats what they make garbage cans for. So run along and leave the real OC'ing to those of us that don't wet our pants everytime we hit the delete button when we are booting up. Have a nice day...

I bet you blame every one who ever ran their voltage at over 1.625 for your problems. Oh yes and I run my memory at 2.4V and my 7900GT runs 24/7 at 1.55 on the gpu and 2.23V on the memory and contrary to popular belief it still runs smooth and fast.

WeldZilla

[nickfd]

Hi all,

I was wondering if the two black and one red SATA ports near the bottomright part of the board, marked SATA1, SATA3, SATA4, were the ones we were to use if we wanted to do RAID5. Is anyone running raid5 with the ICH7 controller? Does it work ok?

[mat8861]

U can also use the 2 orange for raid 5.

[nickfd]

Where can one find memset and what value should tRFC be? Perhaps it can help me get passed the 400 fsb barrier.

http://rv.page.cegetel.net.perso.cegetel.net/MemSet31beta.zip

You can get memset 3.1 beta there.

The big thing that I've found to increase stability is setting tRD to 8 and tRFC to 42. You can set everything except CAS latency on the fly, so good luck finding good times.. The way I did it was boot with lower fsb (to auto set the tRD at a higher rate), then adjust tRD and tRFC in windows(8-42), and use SysTool to bring FSB up. When I thought I had a good clock, I'd do my testing and try and bring my ram timings tighter. You'll spend a *lot* of time messing with these things to get good benchmarks and performance, so be prepared. :)

Oh one more thing, I remember reading something in this thread that was very important. If you want to find your mhz wall, find your max speed with 9x, for example, mine 9x385 = ~3470mhz, then try and find the same with 8x multiplier. There was a post about the board needing original voltage for 9x to post, no matter the fsb or multiplier, so this is why you need to clock lower in 8x (360 or 380fsb), and clock up. Even though I can run 440x8 in windows, theres no way I can boot from it.. Strange stuff.

edit: found memset 3.1 beta
edit2: notes on higher fsb with lower multiplier

[WeldZilla]

you know there are what, 126 pages on this thread alone. I have answered probably close to 500 pm's on all the forums I belong to. With questions on this mobo, which processor,which ram,which HDD's which raid, which PSU, which vid card, which monitor ,which mouse and keyboard and all these questions are based around this Motherboard. Well after 126 pages if you can't figure it out then you are sh*t-outa-luck. Lawry it has been a hell of a thread. I can say sometimes I wished it would have never been started. But, in reality I am glad it was. There is such a great compilation of information here. Unfortunately some are going to get this board and never fully understand it. Then they will sell it and forever tell the world what a POS it was when in fact it is a wonderful board, feature rich and very strong. I will be keeping mine for a longtime to come. But I feel it is time to let people sink or swim now as the questions are getting a bit repititious. And if people don't want it bad enough to read everything then they really just don't want it.
I am finished with this thread,here lately I have just wanted to flame to death some of those posting here. So it is time to call it for me. Again I congratulate you on a truly magnificent information rich thread....

WeldZilla

[lawrywild]

you know there are what, 126 pages on this thread alone. I have answered probably close to 500 pm's on all the forums I belong to. With questions on this mobo, which processor,which ram,which HDD's which raid, which PSU, which vid card, which monitor ,which mouse and keyboard and all these questions are based around this Motherboard. Well after 126 pages if you can't figure it out then you are sh*t-outa-luck. Lawry it has been a hell of a thread. I can say sometimes I wished it would have never been started. But, in reality I am glad it was. There is such a great compilation of information here. Unfortunately some are going to get this board and never fully understand it. Then they will sell it and forever tell the world what a POS it was when in fact it is a wonderful board, feature rich and very strong. I will be keeping mine for a longtime to come. But I feel it is time to let people sink or swim now as the questions are getting a bit repititious. And if people don't want it bad enough to read everything then they really just don't want it.
I am finished with this thread,here lately I have just wanted to flame to death some of those posting here. So it is time to call it for me. Again I congratulate you on a truly magnificent information rich thread....

WeldZilla

lol, I understand you bro :)

the questions are getting a bit repititious.

I agree with you as well.

[daos]

you know there are what, 126 pages on this thread alone. I have answered probably close to 500 pm's on all the forums I belong to. With questions on this mobo, which processor,which ram,which HDD's which raid, which PSU, which vid card, which monitor ,which mouse and keyboard and all these questions are based around this Motherboard. Well after 126 pages if you can't figure it out then you are sh*t-outa-luck. Lawry it has been a hell of a thread. I can say sometimes I wished it would have never been started. But, in reality I am glad it was. There is such a great compilation of information here. Unfortunately some are going to get this board and never fully understand it. Then they will sell it and forever tell the world what a POS it was when in fact it is a wonderful board, feature rich and very strong. I will be keeping mine for a longtime to come. But I feel it is time to let people sink or swim now as the questions are getting a bit repititious. And if people don't want it bad enough to read everything then they really just don't want it.
I am finished with this thread,here lately I have just wanted to flame to death some of those posting here. So it is time to call it for me. Again I congratulate you on a truly magnificent information rich thread....

WeldZilla

Although I have not posted much on this thread, I have read it through and through. Matter fact, I read it again today because I was bored. Anyhow, I totally agree with you. This thread should be locked other than the OP to update the first page with BIOS releases and what it either fixes or doesnt.

My P5WDH runs nice, cool, and fast at 400fsb rock solid with minimal voltage increases at 3.6Ghz. If thats not fast enough for you then maybe you should think about getting a tub of LN or some DI cause it doesnt get much better on water/air.

To the OP, thanks for the thread and all of the hardwork you have put toowards this thread. I know it hasnt been easy.

[Falkentyne]

Falkentyne you are a prime example of a, "I need a Dell or Compaq Computer user" Gawd where is my crying towel. In every group there is someone who just had all the bad luck. Well I believe we make our own and if you had problems with processors at such low voltage settings then you quite frankly you are not qualified to be an overclocker and should get out of forums so you don't get co-erced into to doing something you shouldn't. You also admit that you are a unethical pile of garbage. Selling a processor you knew was bad to some poor bastard for any price is not right!! Thats what they make garbage cans for. So run along and leave the real OC'ing to those of us that don't wet our pants everytime we hit the delete button when we are booting up. Have a nice day...

I bet you blame every one who ever ran their voltage at over 1.625 for your problems. Oh yes and I run my memory at 2.4V and my 7900GT runs 24/7 at 1.55 on the gpu and 2.23V on the memory and contrary to popular belief it still runs smooth and fast.

WeldZilla

Excuse me.
I've been using computers probably *before* you were even born. I happen to be age 35. And I've been overclocking chips ever since the early MMX days. So don't try to lecture me.
I resent your post and your ludicy.
and I know how to tweak a system quite well, thank you.
SNDS is real. Stop trying to deny it. It's people like you that cost innocent people hundreds or more, and every time a post comes up trying to pretend it's a myth, I will be there to let the truth be known. (Even if it doesn't happen in a similar fashion on Core 2 Duo's).

[WeldZilla]

Wah wah you want your mommy and your binky and a warm hot bottle and of course a fresh diaper. Gee your 35 hey I am just overwhelmed. Just go away.
Go hold your SNDS torch of truth up somewhere else... all the money you wasted on that P-4ee would have bought you a top notch liquid cooling system or even better and all top notch parts to build with but you thought you could just throw money at a processor and win. And when guys like me running 3.0C's pounded salt up your ass in the benches you blamed your processor for all your problems but you were then and are still your system's bug. then I moved up to a 540J I got off Ebay for 150 and a 75 dollar epox 5PDAJ Motherboard and really stomped your ass.
And you can take that from someone who got his first computer when he was 23 back in 1979.
Admit it, your ugly and your momma dresses you funny.. you know you could hit the links on my benches and print them out and keep'em under your pillow and sneak them out and look at them late in the night. If you get my drift, you know you want to... check out my avatar, you likey?

Oh and hey all smackin aside have a Happy New Year!

Perhaps this year you will get a great OC, like me!!

WZ

PS. what the hell is ludicy?.......... Oh I get it ludicy is pure genious you resent my pure genious. Well hey i can live with that....

[Trackfan]

I hear you weldzilla, so would it make sense then to close/pin thread so less knowledgable folks who may not found answers in 120 some odd pages or gotten any response to their insulting question can try and post in open forum?

This place is impressive, I learned a few things; still wrestling mobo however and while I am not shooting for 4GHz, I still think there are members here who may gladly throw a few tips at us rookies.

Cheers

[WeldZilla]

Well Trackfan if a good legit ? comes up I will still be hangin around. Dammit
you see I am hooked on this stuff. It's just that simple.

WZ

[BulldogPO]

Seems like 1707 bios is worse then 1705, for me at least.
With 1705 my E6600 was orthos stable at 3.4GHz wit Vcore of 1.375V and now wit 1707 bios cpu requires Vcore of 1.415V and rund hotter of course.

[Gascogne]

Are you running the latest X-Fi drivers? If not, try updating them. I had all sorts of shut down and restart troubles running the X-Fi drivers from the CD that went away after the update.
I am using the latest drivers for my X-Fi.

*Edit

Memset won't work for me, it says "The driver TViPort can not be found".
Im using windows Xp Pro 64 if that has anything do to with it.

[BulldogPO]

You did´nt install that driver?

[Gascogne]

You did´nt install that driver?
What driver?

[catscit]

What driver?

memset doesn't work under xp64 because that driver doesn't exist in 64 bit.
"that driver" = "The driver TViPort can not be found" driver

[SteveMoffat]

"Memset won't work for me, it says "The driver TViPort can not be found".
Im using windows Xp Pro 64 if that has anything do to with it.:

Start XP up in unsigned driver mode.

[Eastcoasthandle]

Anyone with shutdown problem? Whenever I select shutdown in windows the mobo just restart...
Remove the battery then reset the bios

[monza1412]

I think this tread is missing a useful info, and that is the memory that is compatible with this board and doesn´t have the spd bug.
All the people that was able to boot with manual timmings passing the 400 bus barrier should give info about the memory they are using.
Its time to us make a solution for this trfc sh@t, cos seems that Asus is now very busy with their bios revisions for the Striker line up and their P5WDH bios series are getting worse.



My experiences are with this ones:

Memory:------------------boots with manual timmings passing 400 fsb?:

-kingston HyperX 6000 (infineon chips)----------------yes
-Gskill F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK (elpida chips)-------------yes
-Geil Ultra DDR2 PC2 6400 CL4 (elpida) ----------------no
-Supertalent T800UB1GC5-----------------------------yes
-Corsair XMS2 6400----------------------------------- yes
-Ocz Gold edition----------------------------------------no

So please input some info.

[WeldZilla]

I think this tread is missing a useful info, and that is the memory that is compatible with this board and doesn´t have the spd bug.
All the people that was able to boot with manual timmings passing the 400 bus barrier should give info about the memory they are using.
Its time to us make a solution for this trfc sh@t, cos seems that Asus is now very busy with their bios revisions for the Striker line up and their P5WDH bios series are getting worse.



My experiences are with this ones:

Memory:------------------boots with manual timmings passing 400 fsb?:

-kingston HyperX 6000 (infineon chips)----------------yes
-Gskill F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK (elpida chips)-------------yes
-Geil Ultra DDR2 PC2 6400 CL4 (elpida) ----------------no
-Supertalent T800UB1GC5-----------------------------yes
-Corsair XMS2 6400----------------------------------- yes
-Ocz Gold edition----------------------------------------no

So please input some info.G.Skill PC 6400 HZ D9GMH is for me the only memory I will run with this board

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=125168
Scroll down to post 7. Many problems with this board come right down to the memory being used. Well trying to use.

Wz

[monza1412]

Scroll down to post 7. Many problems with this board come right down to the memory being used. Well trying to use.

Wz


yes I know that, for that reason is the idea of making a table of brands and models of memory that will work with this mobo.
I think that Gskill and Corsair are compatible no matter the model of memory.
By the way thx for your input and happy new year

[J33pG33k]

Should be possible to run just one stick alright. I would be trying that memory in another PC if possible... I suspect that it might be okay, but that the board might be a problem (if you can't run either of the sticks alone on that board)
The new year seems to have come with some good/bad news. After troubleshooting the ram for a little bit, I am pleased to know that it is not bad memory...in fact it is a bad board. Both slots A_1 and A_2 do not work. But one/both dimm(s) in the B slots work fine (I am reporting 2048 MB right now).

WZ - I already had everything set as you specified except for the 533 timing, but as I have seen it is not the memory causing the problem. One thing though...I have one dimm each in slots B_1 and B_2 and the BIOS still only reports single channel mode. Should this still be as such? Does dual channel only work when running A+B not A+A or B+B? I remember a few pages back there was some discussion (and disagreement) about whether or not to use same color slots or not. I don't think anything was stated about dual channel operation...

Since I bought the board locally at a reputable shop, I'm glad that the board seems to be at fault and not the memory (purchased at ZipZoomFly). Hopefully he will be able to get me a new board by the end of the week.

[nickfd]

Does dual channel only work when running A+B not A+A or B+B? I remember a few pages back there was some discussion (and disagreement) about whether or not to use same color slots or not. I don't think anything was stated about dual channel operation...


If you want to run dual channel, you have to have the dimms in the same coloured slots. I had a similar problem as you until someone pointed this out.

[nickfd]

I am finished with this thread,here lately I have just wanted to flame to death some of those posting here. So it is time to call it for me. Again I congratulate you on a truly magnificent information rich thread....

WeldZilla

Hey WZ,

I really hope you don't leave the thread for good. Maybe you need a hiatus or something to get away from the repetitive questions that the majority could be solved by clicking "search thread". You, lawry, and a handful of others are absolutely lifesavers and provide us a plethora of information when we need it, especially when we cannot find it in search.

For example, when I was searching which SATA ports to use for onboard raid5, the search does not work. No matter if I do in the quick search: "raid 5" sata, 'raid 5' sata, or if I go to advanced search and try the same, it removes the "5" since it's only one character. Digging through the thousands of posts where a quick question could solve faster is much more optimized, hence why I asked.

I very much appreciate all of the updated information that lawry and all have put on the first post to solve the problems that we *can* run into on the board, and think that to best resolve the issues we're running into now with so many pages is to continue updating that first post. IE: finding mhz wall in 8x or 9x multiplier by booting lower fsb, using memset to change tRFC and tRD to 42-8 and clockgenning up to a higher fsb, etc.

Furthermore, this thread is absolutely essential for owners of the board and a c2d, and rather than spending two+ weeks going through the 3000+ posts to learn everything, it'd be nice to consolidating to the first post.

Hope all the experts don't leave!

Nick

[WeldZilla]

Yes for dual channel operation you must run 2 sticks in the orange slots or 2 sticks in the black slots. Technically speaking these are slots DIMM_B1 and DIMM_A1 (orange) or in slots DIMM_B2 and DIMM_B1 (Black)
This is clearly covered in your P5W DH manual on page 2-14. Now you se this is why I get a little wound up. Before I did anything with my board I read my manual cover to cover over and over. Even after it was up and running I read and re-read. I can just about recite the book. It is obvious you did not.
you know there is a thread here about setting up your new board for Conroe.
Then there is a Problems and Fixes thread.
There should be a read the damn manual thread too!!
OK that is my rant, I hope this helps you and anyone who needs it

WZ

[Romano]

merry xmas and happy new year to all P5WDH owner...

[Thasp]

Another year without subtimings in ASUS's $220 motherboard. :(

[nicepun]

This is clearly covered in your P5W DH manual on page 2-14. Now you se this is why I get a little wound up. Before I did anything with my board I read my manual cover to cover over and over. Even after it was up and running I read and re-read. I can just about recite the book. It is obvious you did not.
you know there is a thread here about setting up your new board for Conroe.
Then there is a Problems and Fixes thread.
There should be a read the damn manual thread too!!
OK that is my rant, I hope this helps you and anyone who needs it out

WZ


I'm with you! There's a reason why they include the manual, and even if for some crazy reason you don't have a manual you can download it as well. Questions like "How can I run RAID_0?" to tend to get old and frustrating. Anyway Happy New Year to all.

[J33pG33k]

Yes for dual channel operation you must run 2 sticks in the orange slots or 2 sticks in the black slots. Technically speaking these are slots DIMM_B1 and DIMM_A1 (orange) or in slots DIMM_B2 and DIMM_B1 (Black)
This is clearly covered in your P5W DH manual on page 2-14. Now you se this is why I get a little wound up. Before I did anything with my board I read my manual cover to cover over and over. Even after it was up and running I read and re-read. I can just about recite the book. It is obvious you did not.
you know there is a thread here about setting up your new board for Conroe.
Then there is a Problems and Fixes thread.
There should be a read the damn manual thread too!!
OK that is my rant, I hope this helps you and anyone who needs it out

WZ
Hint taken. Didn't mean to upset anyone. As I stated I just wanted to clear up the earlier discussion when I thought that someone reported running memory in dual channel mode in non-similar colored slots (I have been searching the thread, but can't find it...very likely that I was mistaken).

As for your decision to leave the thread, I can understand your frustration. I spent a good amount of my free time since August (not much this semester) researching this board and various components to go with it. I have loosely followed this thread since sometime around pg 10 even though I didn't personally own the board at that time. I was in no hurry to build it, and I wanted to be 100% certain that the components I was going to buy would play nice with each other (and that they were supported in Linux, as that is my primary OS). I say loosely because it was growing so fast that it was impossible to remember everything already discussed.

I have one question/comment for you though: Everyone hates excess emails/spam, but wouldn't it be easier to just ignore/delete all of the "compatibility requests" than let them upset you?

I, as well as many others I'm sure, really appreciate your knowledgeable feedback, and wish you the best no matter what your decision may be. Thanks again.

[Lord^]

Hi there, this might be a far too general question, with multiple solutions.

So my setup is as following:

P5W DH DL
E6600
Corsair twin2x pc6400 cl5 2GB
sapphire x1900xtx
mist 500w

I boot up, fans rev up like crazy, but it i have no video signal. I'm guessing its never even making itself to POST.

The fans never go down in speed. I'm thinking the problem is that the goop has turned into crap after ive applied and reapplied the heatsink numerous times, quite possibly messing up them damn pushpins (intel gotta start shipping those fans with a decent locking system :P). Resulting in bad contact and consequentially the cpu overheating.

BUT would this cause the part where im not getting any video signal?

Ive removed the harddrive to see if that helped, same problem

Ive made sure the video card sits in place. But i have yet to replace the stock cooler with something better, and removing the bad goop.

What do you guys think? Is it just a problem with the cpu overheating or am i in for bigger problems than this?

[Unbornchild]

Don't forget, in BIOS to set first graphics to boot = PCI.

[OldGuy]

Hi there, this might be a far too general question, with multiple solutions.

So my setup is as following:

P5W DH DL
E6600
Corsair twin2x pc6400 cl5 2GB
sapphire x1900xtx
mist 500w

I boot up, fans rev up like crazy, but it i have no video signal. I'm guessing its never even making itself to POST.

The fans never go down in speed. I'm thinking the problem is that the goop has turned into crap after ive applied and reapplied the heatsink numerous times, quite possibly messing up them damn pushpins (intel gotta start shipping those fans with a decent locking system :P). Resulting in bad contact and consequentially the cpu overheating.

BUT would this cause the part where im not getting any video signal?

Ive removed the harddrive to see if that helped, same problem

Ive made sure the video card sits in place. But i have yet to replace the stock cooler with something better, and removing the bad goop.

What do you guys think? Is it just a problem with the cpu overheating or am i in for bigger problems than this?

Keep your intial setup very basic when starting from scratch. Pull everything but one stick of ram, cpu (obviously :)) and the gfx card. If she boots disable everything you don't need in bios as per the first post in this thread...after that yer on your own...

[Romano]

@lawrywild: my chip is week 27, and i need exactly the same setting as yours

[Nmbr1Ballr]

Can't get to 3.6ghz stable. My current setup is e6600, not sure of what date chip etc. 2gigs of super talent pc6400. I can get to 3.4ghz using 1.45voltage in bios (1.42 in windows) mch on auto and is orthos stable. At 1.525voltage and 1.65mch, orthos fails after 21 minutes. Do I really need more voltage? Or is 3.4ghz my limit?

[Clump]

Can't get to 3.6ghz stable. My current setup is e6600, not sure of what date chip etc. 2gigs of super talent pc6400. I can get to 3.4ghz using 1.45voltage in bios (1.42 in windows) mch on auto and is orthos stable. At 1.525voltage and 1.65mch, orthos fails after 21 minutes. Do I really need more voltage? Or is 3.4ghz my limit?
Mine needs 1.5625 to be Orthos stable at 400x9 for 3.6. On air temps were too high for my tastes, but moving to water put it under control, max is 62 C in TAT, 58 in Coretemp using Orthos.

[Lord^]

I dont get a video signal, kinda hard to change stuff in bios :P And since the fans never go down im assuming its not making itself to POST. :(

Oh well, ill buy a cpu cooler and try again :(

[Gascogne]

Anyone with Super Talent? -> T800UX2GC4 800MHz

[RTShaw]

lost most control of my fingers so pleaqe bear with me, it hurts like hell 2 type.

Guys, I really appreciate all the info on this borard abot this partcular Mobo the Asus YOu Guys are one hell of a crew and 99.5% of my answers I got here, I'm dajmn near dead, can't see, 60 yrs old with hand damage, eye damage, constant pain, muscle spasms, take opitate patches (Durogesic), Liquid & pill morphine (Roxynol & Oxycodone/OXyIR), Valium, and Marijuana (Legit) and thats not all its just all I have the energy to post. IM an oldtimer NASA/GM Tech/ Honeywell guy love Electronics till i Kick. I never thought I could see enoug to install my E6600 processor let alone all the stuff I had but thanks 2 U guys u made it simple even for a damn near blind eng9ineer,. I thank you all.
Currently running E6600 at 3.6x Ghz no problems
Now IM Doing 2nd one but do have a few questions
On the INCHR can u have 2 daul Raid0 arrays? Im familiaR WITH RAID (i STILL HAVE aSUS 6800 & 6800e dELUZE MOBO SYSTEMS RUNNING AND A cusl2-c ALSO) sorry 4 the caps..
Heres the deal... I never did get the JMicron to accept a PATA IDE DVD Writer (not decently) But I saw 2 diff PCie Slot devices I purchaced them both 4 testing;; One sil 3232 has 2 internal SATA II ports (29 buxs), the next day I saw one with, get this, 1 ESata SATA II port, 2 - internal Sata II Ports and 1 internal Pat port 39 buxs couldnt resist ordered it too.. IM running the dual internal port one now (SIL3232) using it with a (37 gig)Raptor and a LITE-ON SH-16A7S. I dont know why I stuck the Raptor on there .. Anway
what I wanna do is to put 2 36 gig raptors on one Array Raid0
and 2 - 500 giggers on another Array Raid0. Both on the ICHR7. I notice (before i have to room to move everything to do this) the intel controller showed the one array with the dual 500 giggers. also the 2 - 250 giggers on the ez ports(i dont use ez back though)
I see the inchr7 SHOWS One mystery PORT IDENTICAL TO ANOTHER,, iM Still trying to figure that out and between being 1/2 blind,wasted because of the drugs,andd inever ending pain its kinda hard 2 concentrate.THats wh yI say this one looong thread has given me everythiing I need. Heck I just slap- the laptop next to the system Im working on and dial in whammo as long as i can see the text and have the faculties for a decent search I'm cool, just 2 bad i cant even hold a screw arrrggrrgr!!W@! Now that really gets me, asking the old lady 2 pull memory, etc. seems like it takes he forever and us only seconds. but im grateful, i actually built, troubleshooted, used and overclocked duo core systems. which is no big deal unless you are messed up and as old as i am.little hick town, most havent even heard of mp3 players even now..
I really never though i'd live this long (and be coherant & move around at all)
thank you guys...
at newegg the've had 2 diff 500 gig drives n sale, perfect 4 an external Esata bakup drive. even 4 laptops nice...Also have pcie Sata II internal/external ports with a pata device too.. BYTECC PCIe SATA II 300 + PATA Raid Card Model BT-PESAPA - 39 bux.. both are new cards...

[Plaicd]

Yes for dual channel operation you must run 2 sticks in the orange slots or 2 sticks in the black slots. Technically speaking these are slots DIMM_B1 and DIMM_A1 (orange) or in slots DIMM_B2 and DIMM_B1 (Black)

Not completely true,on i975 chipset boards as long as each channel contains the same amount of memory it will run in dual channel mode.

Right now I am running in first channel a one gb stick and in the second channel two 512mb sticks and it runs in dual channel mode.

On the motherboard each channel has one black and one orange memory slot.

The attachment is an example of how to use 3 memory sticks in dual channel mode.

[DutchBBQ]

December 2006 releases:
* JMicron: Dec. 12, 2006
* DirectX: Dec. 13, 2006
* WiFi AP Solo: Dec. 22, 2006
* Marvell Yukon LAN for VISTA: Dec. 27, 2006
* Realtek Audio drivers for XP: Dec. 29,2006

January 2007 releases:
* Intel Matrix Storage Manager 6.2.1.1002: Jan. 4,2007, offering slightly improved SATA harddisk performance and helps preventing iastor0 error.
* DirectX for XP ONLY: Jan. 5, 2007
* Realtek Audio driver for VISTA: Jan. 8, 2007
* Realtek WLAN driver for VISTA: Jan. 11, 2007

Downloading and installing latest BIOS & Drivers helps reducing installation problems and instability of your system. While the idea is dead obvious--the problem is that we don't do the obvious. Don't use the drivers on the accompanied ASUS CD of your P5W HD Deluxe motherboard!!
For your convenience, I've listed here the links where to get the LATEST of them.
Check it out REGULARLY as new drivers are released every couple of weeks
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20061112200624969&board_id=1&model=P5W+DH+Deluxe&page=1&SLanguage=en-us

[J33pG33k]

Not completely true,on i975 chipset boards as long as each channel contains the same amount of memory it will run in dual channel mode.

Right now I am running in first channel a one gb stick and in the second channel two 512mb sticks and it runs in dual channel mode.

On the motherboard each channel has one black and one orange memory slot.

The attachment is an example of how to use 3 memory sticks in dual channel mode.
I appreciate your input, but I think you are mistaken. From what I understand about dual-channel operation, you don't have to have the same size memory modules, in fact you don't even need to have the same speed (although not recommended). Your memory will only run as fast as your slowest module in that pair (in your case the pair would be the 1 GB stick and one of the 512 MB sticks). Try removing the 1 GB stick and you should only end up running in single channel mode like me.

[topboy]

any news on the new 1801 bios

[WeldZilla]

Not completely true,on i975 chipset boards as long as each channel contains the same amount of memory it will run in dual channel mode.

Right now I am running in first channel a one gb stick and in the second channel two 512mb sticks and it runs in dual channel mode.

On the motherboard each channel has one black and one orange memory slot.

The attachment is an example of how to use 3 memory sticks in dual channel mode.

Running just the way I said. Now let it be known there is no Dimm O's on the P5W DH and it is running in dual channel cuz you have memory sticks in
Channel A Dimm 2 and Channel B Dimm 2. the fact you have chosen to throw a stick into Channel B dimm 1 is inconsequential to the dual channel set up.
I would run sandra or everest to make sure that you are not actually slowing your mem speed down. Hey live like you wanna live. I would not run an odd number of sticks simply because I don't do things that way.:nono:
If I ever walked into one of my friends computer rooms and they were doing this I would give them this:slapass:
But really if it is working for you go for it.:D

WZ

[bichi]

QX6700 @ 3G and two different revs of P5WDH:

#1 - LOT: 66M REV 1.02G with mch 1.65
#2 - LOT: 69M REV 1.02G with mch 1.85

#1 is stable at 3.0G
#2 is not stable at 3.0G, had to lower to 2.90G to get to stable operation

Just FYI for others to note there may be significant differences between same model boards....
- in my case, the newer rev board was significantly hotter and less stable than older rev.
- makes one wonder what the differences are between them....

- case, PSU, memory, drives, etc., are the same.
- just swapped out motherboard.
- reinstalled #1 and double checked original measurements.
- temps measuered with Fluke 62 Mini IR thermometer.
- AC system watts measured with WattsUp? Pro
- links to pix, benches, etc., in sig below

***************

#1 - LOT: 66M with mch 1.65
LOADED: 30min (Prime95 v25.1)
CPU: 129f/53.8c - CORE: 163.4f/73c
MB: 91f/32.7c
MEM: 114.8f/46c
NORTHBRIDGE: 128f/53.3c
SOUTHBRIDGE: 96f/35.5c
MOSFET/INDUCTOR: 131f/55c
AC SYSTEM POWER INCREASE over IDLE: 154W

IDLE:
CPU: 80f/26c - CORE: 109f/42c
MB: 91f/32.7c
MEM: 92.1f/33.4c
NORTHBRIDGE: 110f/43.3c
SOUTHBRIDGE: 94f/34.4c
MOSFET/INDUCTOR: 100f/37.7c
AC SYSTEM POWER: 169W

AMB: 68f/20c

****************

#2 - LOT: 69M with mch 1.85 (MCH set at 1.55vdc in BIOS)
LOADED: 30min (Prime95 v25.1)
CPU: 134f/57c - CORE: 168f/76c <-- hmmmm?
MB: 105f/41c
MEM: 124f/51.1c
NORTHBRIDGE: 145f/62.7c <-- ouch!
SOUTHBRIDGE: 105f/40.5c
MOSFET/INDUCTOR: 142f/61.1c <-- ouch!
AC SYSTEM POWER INCREASE over IDLE: 168W

IDLE:
CPU: 80f/26c - CORE: 109f/42c
MB: 98f/36.6c
MEM: 98.9f/36.1c
NORTHBRIDGE: 118f/47c
SOUTHBRIDGE: 102f/38.8c
MOSFET/INDUCTOR: 118f/47.7c
AC SYSTEM POWER: 182W

AMB: 69f/20.5c

[GrossmeisterB]

I got a strange probleme with my computer, maybe you guys can help me out...

I've got a P5W DH (older rev. with 1,65Vmch), C2D E6400 which ran at 3500MHz all the time (watercooled)...one day it started to behave strange, it "freezed" suddenly, without having some high CPU load or whatever...

then I bootet with non o'ced settings, and it all worked fine again...then I tried again with my 3500MHz settings which ran fine all the time...then it restarted after about 1.5h (just surfing the net etc.)....I bootet again with the overclocked settings, and all was fine again, when after about another 1.5/2h it freezed...I dunno what the problem could be, my XP installation is new, did a new install on 12/31, but no changes!!
I also thought it could be my harddrive...I have this Scythe HDD Silencer, where the harddrive ist "upside down"...I pulled it out and turned it 180°, so the HDD is in "normal" position now...I powered it on again, and it worked fine so far (just had 1.5h to test)...

so what else could be the problem? how could I check if something's damaged (e.g. the board/cpu or whatever)....

Thanks in advance everyone!!

[Phoenix_TT]

monza1412 + all

I have an early 1.65v MCH rev board, week 24 E6600 and running bios 1707. I can't get the board to boot with Corsair XMS2 6400 memory at 400FSB with manual timings. It boots fine with it SPD enabled. I'm sure I have got it to boot with an early bios with manual timings. Haven't tried 1801 yet, due to the feedback in this thread.

I'm also trying to get mine Orthos stable at 3.6Ghz (400x9). I have Vcore set to 1.6V, memory set to 2.15V, MCH set to 1.65, ICH set to 1.2V and FSB set to 1.5V. Windows will just blue screen with Machine_Check_Exception. If I lower the voltage slightly then it will fail with a rounding error (or something like that). Any ideas ?

[monza1412]

monza1412 + all

I have an early 1.65v MCH rev board, week 24 E6600 and running bios 1707. I can't get the board to boot with Corsair XMS2 6400 memory at 400FSB with manual timings. It boots fine with it SPD enabled. I'm sure I have got it to boot with an early bios with manual timings. Haven't tried 1801 yet, due to the feedback in this thread.

I'm also trying to get mine Orthos stable at 3.6Ghz (400x9). I have Vcore set to 1.6V, memory set to 2.15V, MCH set to 1.65, ICH set to 1.2V and FSB set to 1.5V. Windows will just blue screen with Machine_Check_Exception. If I lower the voltage slightly then it will fail with a rounding error (or something like that). Any ideas ?


have you tried the 8 multi??, maybe you have encounter your cpu wall here..., I mean, that memory its able to boot with manual timmings
I ve 2 boards, one its the 1.65v (1.02 revision), it´s not stable at all at 400 no matter the voltage...
The second one its 1.85v (1.03 revision) it tops around 450 fsb :eek:

[Plaicd]

Running just the way I said. Now let it be known there is no Dimm O's on the P5W DH and it is running in dual channel cuz you have memory sticks in
Channel A Dimm 2 and Channel B Dimm 2. the fact you have chosen to throw a stick into Channel B dimm 1 is inconsequential to the dual channel set up.
I would run sandra or everest to make sure that you are not actually slowing your mem speed down. Hey live like you wanna live. I would not run an odd number of sticks simply because I don't do things that way.:nono:
If I ever walked into one of my friends computer rooms and they were doing this I would give them this:slapass:
But really if it is working for you go for it.:D

WZ
You really should read more than a asus owners manual before you post.
Has nothing to do with what might work for me, its the way intel designed the chipset to function.
Try the intel site instead.

[mikepaul]

QX6700 @ 3G and two different revs of P5WDH:

#1 - LOT: 66M REV 1.02G with mch 1.65
#2 - LOT: 69M REV 1.02G with mch 1.85

#1 is stable at 3.0G
#2 is not stable at 3.0G, had to lower to 2.90G to get to stable operation
I'm no longer pushing the limits of my 66M board. I'm just hoping for better performance once I can spring for a Top of the Line quad CPU, maybe next year. By then, more programs might take full use of even two cores. The MPEG-to-WMV converter I use seems to occupy both cores nicely...

[scaramonga]

Anyone have or had this problem?

Since flashing to the 1707 BIOS my G7 mouse is all over the place.......like when you click on anything it maximises for no reason or click an icon and 2 instances of a program open and erratic behaviour in some games etc etc??

Flashed back to 1506 and it seems to have gone away.

:confused: :confused:

[Gascogne]

Remove the battery then reset the bios
It didn't help my reboot problem, the mobo still reboots when I select shutdown in windows.

[bichi]

I'm no longer pushing the limits of my 66M board. I'm just hoping for better performance once I can spring for a Top of the Line quad CPU, maybe next year. By then, more programs might take full use of even two cores. The MPEG-to-WMV converter I use seems to occupy both cores nicely...

mikepaul,

- yep, the QX6700 makes vid editing FLY, even compared to E6600 and E6700
- Sony Vegas, TMPG series of apps, ULead, Divx, etc., appear to be dual/quad aware
- work related math and database intensive apps also fly along
- typical transcodes take about half the time, compared to Netburst cores (D945), with a lot less power and heat
- and same here, just pushed a bit to a nice, fast, quiet, stable configuration (2.66 to 3Ghz, in my case)

[syne_24]

damn the 1801 bios :banana::banana::banana::banana: me over. After I flashed it, I noticed my reading on temps was a bit off than normal. So I decided to flash back to 1503 and that's when all of a sudden it got corrupted. Never happened before, I have flash atleast 50 times on this board. Anyways had to get another bios chip to get it working. Asus bios recovery cd didnt even work! I'm really pissed at this board now. BTW I just tested the 680i and we have been getting screw on this board. That thing boots 2x faster and no hang up when overclocking failed. Boot strap reset hella faster and good memory divider. I have had it enough with this board..:mad:

[Eastcoasthandle]

damn the 1801 bios :banana::banana::banana::banana: me over. After I flashed it, I noticed my reading on temps was a bit off than normal. So I decided to flash back to 1503 and that's when all of a sudden it got corrupted. Never happened before, I have flash atleast 50 times on this board. Anyways had to get another bios chip to get it working. Asus bios recovery cd didnt even work! I'm really pissed at this board now. BTW I just tested the 680i and we have been getting screw on this board. That thing boots 2x faster and no hang up when overclocking failed. Boot strap reset hella faster and good memory divider. I have had it enough with this board..:mad:
Very few care about another make/model in this thread.

[Tarowah]

bich

what did you use to get the temps from the Northbridge and Southbridge? Also is there a way to see what thm PWM temps are on this board?

[BulldogPO]

What is best bios so far?

[bichi]

bich
what did you use to get the temps from the Northbridge and Southbridge? Also is there a way to see what thm PWM temps are on this board?

as stated in my post above:
- temps measured with Fluke 62 Mini IR thermometer.
- best $85 USD investment made, for building stable machines
(would guess it should be standard tool for any serious, radical OC'ers)
http://us.fluke.com/usen/products/Fluke+60+Series.htm

PWM temps, as in a software application?
- not that I'm aware of.....
- don't know if there are thermal PWM feedback sensors on P5WDH boards

[GrossmeisterB]

I got a strange probleme with my computer, maybe you guys can help me out...

I've got a P5W DH (older rev. with 1,65Vmch), C2D E6400 which ran at 3500MHz all the time (watercooled)...one day it started to behave strange, it "freezed" suddenly, without having some high CPU load or whatever...

then I bootet with non o'ced settings, and it all worked fine again...then I tried again with my 3500MHz settings which ran fine all the time...then it restarted after about 1.5h (just surfing the net etc.)....I bootet again with the overclocked settings, and all was fine again, when after about another 1.5/2h it freezed...I dunno what the problem could be, my XP installation is new, did a new install on 12/31, but no changes!!
I also thought it could be my harddrive...I have this Scythe HDD Silencer, where the harddrive ist "upside down"...I pulled it out and turned it 180°, so the HDD is in "normal" position now...I powered it on again, and it worked fine so far (just had 1.5h to test)...

so what else could be the problem? how could I check if something's damaged (e.g. the board/cpu or whatever)....

Thanks in advance everyone!!

No one can help me?

I did some further testing yesterday, I increased the Vcore a little bit, and let the PC run Orthos dual stress test (with small FFTs) for >2h (like 2h15min), no crashes, no errors...
Before I did that, I checked all programs that will start up with windows and disabled some stuff there, could that have been the problem?!?! I dunno, if it's stable on Orthos for 2h, there can't be THAT big problem making the computer crash everytime I'm surfing the internet or what...

[Gascogne]

What is best bios so far?
1707 works great for me. :)

[Phoenix_TT]

I tried 1801 and I noticed the temps in TAT and coretemp are slightly different and seem higher than 1707!

With 1801, 400x9 (3.6Ghz), vcore 1.6V, mem V at 2.2V, MCH set to 1.65V, ICH set to 1.2V, FSB set to 1.5V, PCI X freq at 110 and PCI clock at 33.33 it ran Orthos using just the CPU stress test for at least 20mins, stopped as temps were too high.

Can't boot at 450x8 though and can't boot higher than 429*9.

[walste]

I tried 1801 and I noticed the temps in TAT and coretemp are slightly different and seem higher than 1707!

With 1801, 400x9 (3.6Ghz), vcore 1.6V, mem V at 2.2V, MCH set to 1.65V, ICH set to 1.2V, FSB set to 1.5V, PCI X freq at 110 and PCI clock at 33.33 it ran Orthos using just the CPU stress test for at least 20mins, stopped as temps were too high.

Can't boot at 450x8 though and can't boot higher than 429*9.


So, what is the diffrent in 1707 and 1801?
Should i flash 1707 or 1801?

[Phoenix_TT]

walste,

I have no idea what 1801 changed. Certainly there doesn't appear to be any new BIOS options.

I would recommend 1707, but I've tried so many bioses I'm losing track of what's better for me. You can always flash back to a previous version, if necessary.

Asus needs to sort out the BIOS for this motherboard once and for all. I'm only really playing with my E6600 and P5W to see how far I can push it. I was originally aiming to get 4.0Ghz but this is not possible. I have been able to boot at 3.9Ghz, but not run Windows and I can't get dual prime or Orthos stable at 3.6Ghz, however at this speed I've used it for light duties and it works ok and temps seem reasonable. Problem is I seem to run out of time to do all this playing and testing! Having a thread like this is really useful and I have to say thanks to all who have contributed to it so far ....

[Gig4moller]

Hi guys! I need some help here. :)

I'm running an E6600 on P5W DH Deluxe mobo, 1707 bios. But atm, I can't change my CPU fsb in the bios in any way (I see the option, it isnt grayed out, but simply nothing happens when I press enter), but I can change any other thing like voltages etc. What's the problem here? I disabled alot of stuff like hyperpath 3, q-fan, etc.

Another thing is that I can't disable 'Virtualization Technology', simply because it's grayed out.

Any help would be appreciated!

[Phoenix_TT]

Hi guys! I need some help here. :)

I'm running an E6600 on P5W DH Deluxe mobo, 1707 bios. But atm, I can't change my CPU fsb in the bios in any way (I see the option, it isnt grayed out, but simply nothing happens when I press enter), but I can change any other thing like voltages etc. What's the problem here? I disabled alot of stuff like hyperpath 3, q-fan, etc.

Another thing is that I can't disable 'Virtualization Technology', simply because it's grayed out.

Any help would be appreciated!

There isn't a drop down list for FSB, you type in a number and then press enter, e.g for 3.2Ghz enter 356

[monza1412]

I tried 1801 and I noticed the temps in TAT and coretemp are slightly different and seem higher than 1707!

With 1801, 400x9 (3.6Ghz), vcore 1.6V, mem V at 2.2V, MCH set to 1.65V, ICH set to 1.2V, FSB set to 1.5V, PCI X freq at 110 and PCI clock at 33.33 it ran Orthos using just the CPU stress test for at least 20mins, stopped as temps were too high.

Can't boot at 450x8 though and can't boot higher than 429*9.



Are you sure it´s not a heat problem? Have you tried to cold down the northbridge?
It seems that the MCH voltage is not limiting you overclock, cos you were able to boot at 429..so maybe its a heat problem..
Also what stepping/batch number is your cpu?

[Phoenix_TT]

Are you sure it´s not a heat problem? Have you tried to cold down the northbridge?
It seems that the MCH voltage is not limiting you overclock, cos you were able to boot at 429..so maybe its a heat problem..
Also what stepping/batch number is your cpu?

It's a week 24, however I packed away the CPU box with batch no and it's not easy to get to at the moment. Is there another way to find out this information ?

I have a small 40mm fan on the northbridge. I've removed the covers on the heatsink and used AS5 for north and southbridges.

I'll double check if the northbridge heatsink is getting hot. As far as I'm aware there are no tools to measure the northbridge temp, correct me if I'm wrong

[monza1412]

It's a week 24, however I packed away the CPU box with batch no and it's not easy to get to at the moment. Is there another way to find out this information ?

I have a small 40mm fan on the northbridge. I've removed the covers on the heatsink and used AS5 for north and southbridges.

I'll double check if the northbridge heatsink is getting hot. As far as I'm aware there are no tools to measure the northbridge temp, correct me if I'm wrong

software tools no, there aren´t. You will need a thermal probe to do that.
What are your room temps? be aware that week 24 conroes were not such a good overclockers, I mean in relation with week 28, week 29.
You should be very happy with a 3.6, 24/7

[Phoenix_TT]

software tools no, there aren´t. You will need a thermal probe to do that.
What are your room temps? be aware that week 24 conroes were not such a good overclockers, I mean in relation with week 28, week 29.
You should be very happy with a 3.6, 24/7

I would be happy with 3.6Ghz 24/7 but that's where I'm stuck, can't get Orthos to run for any length of time, although have used the machine running at 3.6 and even 3.7!

I'm aware that a week 24 E6600 is not as good as later weeks, but I still think the BIOS is holding the overclock back. I might be wrong and I don't have access to other conroe MBs to test.

Meant to add rooms temp are between 21 - 25°c

[monza1412]

I would be happy with 3.6Ghz 24/7 but that's where I'm stuck, can get Orthos to run for any length of time, all thought have used the machine running at 3.6 and even 3.7!

I'm aware that a week 24 E6600 is not as good as later weeks, but I still think the BIOS is holding the overclock back. I might be wrong and I don't have access to other conroe MBs to test.

Meant to add rooms temp are between 21 - 25°c



I´ve tested almost all the bioses, all of them are kind the same bull sh@t... If I have to recommend one, I choose 1503.
I know this is the P5wdh tread, but I´m pissed off that asus launch a bios for the striker with the trfc and trc options available (505 I believe). Those timmings were not available in earlier bioses, so they add them. I mean, come on, what are they waiting to add these options in the p5wdh bios.

[Rob Halford]

I´ve tested almost all the bioses, all of them are kind the same bull sh@t... If I have to recommend one, I choose 1503.
I know this is the P5wdh tread, but I´m pissed off that asus launch a bios for the striker with the trfc and trc options available (505 I believe). Those timmings were not available in earlier bioses, so they add them. I mean, come on, what are they waiting to add these options in the p5wdh bios.

Or something even more elementary than trfc and trc, what about opening multipliers for Extreme processors like X6800 og QX6700... Not possible to set higher than 10 / 11 after BIOS 1506... :slapass:

[MrDisco]

Hopefully some smarter people than I can help me. I'm totally clueless over which modules to buy for this motherboard. How do these choices sound:

Corsair XMS2 Dominator TWIN2X2048-6400C4 2X1GB PC6400 CL 4-4-4-12
OCZ Special Ops Urban Elite PC2-6400 CL4-4-3-15
OCZ Platinum XTC OCZ2P800R22GK PC2-6400 Rev2 4-4-4-15
G.Skill Extreme F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK 2GB PC2-6400 CL4-4-4-12
G.Skill Extreme F2-6400CL4D-2GBHK 2GB PC2-6400 CL4-4-3-?
G.Skill Extreme F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ 2GB PC2-6400 CL4-4-4-12
Team Xtreem PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL 4-4-4-10
Team Xtreem Dark Series PC2-6400 2GB 2xX1GB DDR2-800 4-4-4-12

The OCZ Platinum are the cheapest, the Corsair Dominators are suprisingly the most expensive. I've heard good things about Team and G.Skill, Corsair seems to be an old favourite, and OCZ is pretty aggressive on pricing.

My goals are:
Stability
Ease of use (i.e. can i plug the modules in and boot the system on the first go?)
Minimal overclocking (though that would be much farther down the road once I gain some knowledge; for now everything is stock)

Thank you all for your help.

[S1mon-]

I'm putting my results if a few people wants to use them as a reference for their O/c :)

My rig is as stated in my Sig, except now my new cooler is the Thermalright Ultra-120 (Incredibly effective)...

for 400 x 8 (3,2 GHz) I need:

vCore: 1.425v (set in BIOS)
vMCH: 1,60v
vICH: 1,05v
vDIMM: 2,1V
PCI-E Freq: 105 (can be 100MHz aswell)

Temps Idle: CPU: 24-25 degrees
Cores: 38-40 degrees

Temps Full: CPU: 37-38
Cores: 50-52 degrees

to get 3,6 GHz (400 x 9), I need:

vCore: 1,575v for Orthos stable (Scares me) - 1,54v real
vMCH: 1,60v
vICH: 1,05v
vDIMM: 2,1v

Temps Idle: CPU: 30-32 degrees
Core2: 45-48 degrees

Temps Full Orthos Large FFTs Priority 9: CPU: 50-51 degrees
Cores: 64-66 degrees

@ 3,6 Ghz, my scores are:

Super PI: 14,734s
3DMark06: 3124

Thanks

[Maiki]

Hi! :)

I'm from Poland , I have got a problem with Slow(15sec-1min) POST on P5W DH Deluxe

My Config

Intel Core2Duo E6600 2,4GHz
2x1GB GoodRam Pro 800MHz 5-5-5-15 - very good polish business:) :)
Sensonic S-12 430W
GeForce 7600GS 256MB + Zalman
P5W DH Deluxe
Seagate Barracuda 320GB 7200.10
Pioneer DVR-111D

What i must do?

Sorry for my bad English

Greetz;]

[S1mon-]

Where does it stall?

Try this:

Extremely slow POST - Disable everything to do with fans in "Hardware Monitor".

[ketma]

I'll have the site ready tomorrow. and will I publish the related article and Asus's Tech Support evaluation results article.
Gonna publish the article on TheInquirer ( sigh ) aswell :D
Hopefully that'll grab Asus's attention.
Else, I will grab the details of a high ranked Asus employee ( with the help of my friends in the industry :D ) and will have a chat with him.

Hi, just wondering was there any progress with this or is it still work in progress?

Cheers.

[lawrywild]

to get 3,6 GHz (400 x 9), I need:

vCore: 1,575v for Orthos stable (Scares me)
vMCH: 1,60v
vICH: 1,05v
vDIMM: 2,1v

Temps Idle: CPU: 30-32 degrees
Core2: 45-48 degrees

Temps Full Orthos Large FFTs Priority 9: CPU: 50-51 degrees
Cores: 64-66 degrees

@ 3,6 Ghz, my scores are:

Super PI: 14,734s
3DMark06: 3124

Thanks

1.575v = bios setting or vcore measured with digital multimeter??

[S1mon-]

lawrywild: 1,575 set in Bios... Dunno how to check my 'real' vCore...

[Severance]

i have 2 systems. 1-P5WDH,X6800 cpu. ati 1950xtx crossfire 2-p5b,x6800 cpu, ati1950 crossfire.
It seems that the p5wdh needs enough vcore to boot at stock multi. X6800 stock multi is 11. This meens if fsb is 400mhz, it needs enough vcore to post at 400x11=4400mhz. and then after post it drops multi to what its set at in bios. seems that the p5b mobo does not do this in the same way. it is posting with setts that are in the bios. My question ..is the p5wdh mobo the only mobo that does this or are there others? I feel that is most important thing asus needs to fix on this board.

p5wdh,x6800 360fsb=1.4vcore
370fsb=1.47vcore
380fsb=1.52vcore
390fsb=1.55vcore
400fsb=1.6vcore
I dont have big enough u no whats to try any higher. This is cooled with water and water is chilled down to 5c.

[enz660]

Using 1707 bios...

right after I change some bios settings, the pc will not post. The fans keep running, but the cpu will not boot. These are mild overclock settings (3.2ghz). This used to never happen. The pc will only start when stock bios settings are loaded.

[axemanrio]

Can anyone tell me whether the Evercool VC-RE (http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/evvctwvgaco.html) will fit on the northbridge of the P5WDH? If not, are there any other fans I should consider?

[Nmbr1Ballr]

What exactly does POST mean?

[Phoenix_TT]

What exactly does POST mean?

Stands for Power On Self Test. I was going to explain this in my own words, however it's easier to post a URL for more info, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_on_self_test

[Phoenix_TT]

I tried using memtest last night and at stock settings for my E6600, manual memory timings (4-4-4-12) for my Cosair XMS2 memory, set mem voltage to 2.1Vs and it ran fine with no errors (left it for 1.5hrs)

However when I overclocked the system to 3.6 (400x9) and put the memory back to SPD and used memtest it hung after 4 mins, no errors though. Does this mean that my system is getting to hot ?

[OneyedK]

Can anyone tell me whether the Evercool VC-RE (http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/evvctwvgaco.html) will fit on the northbridge of the P5WDH? If not, are there any other fans I should consider?

I have no idea:D

Check the swiftech MCX159-cu: http://www.swiftnets.com/products/mcx159-CU.asp

It's a perfect fit, even with a cnps9500cu next to it...

[icecpu]

What's wrong with my P5W DH Deluxe?????
The PC turn on automatic whenever I take out usb thumbdrive or turn off the printer connected to the usb.

Otherword , PC turn on whenever I disconnect or power down anything that connect to the usb. I hate this problem . anyone having same issue ??? What can I do to stop this ???

[GrossmeisterB]

What's wrong with my P5W DH Deluxe?????
The PC turn on automatic whenever I take out usb thumbdrive or turn off the printer connected to the usb.

Otherword , PC turn on whenever I disconnect or power down anything that connect to the usb. I hate this problem . anyone having same issue ??? What can I do to stop this ???

Use the upper two USB ports!! the lower 2 are for the remote control to power it up by remote control...

[monza1412]

What's wrong with my P5W DH Deluxe?????
The PC turn on automatic whenever I take out usb thumbdrive or turn off the printer connected to the usb.

Otherword , PC turn on whenever I disconnect or power down anything that connect to the usb. I hate this problem . anyone having same issue ??? What can I do to stop this ???



maybe you should read the manual from time to time....:rolleyes:

[Pol1977]

Hopefully some smarter people than I can help me. I'm totally clueless over which modules to buy for this motherboard. How do these choices sound:

Corsair XMS2 Dominator TWIN2X2048-6400C4 2X1GB PC6400 CL 4-4-4-12
OCZ Special Ops Urban Elite PC2-6400 CL4-4-3-15
OCZ Platinum XTC OCZ2P800R22GK PC2-6400 Rev2 4-4-4-15
G.Skill Extreme F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK 2GB PC2-6400 CL4-4-4-12
G.Skill Extreme F2-6400CL4D-2GBHK 2GB PC2-6400 CL4-4-3-?
G.Skill Extreme F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ 2GB PC2-6400 CL4-4-4-12
Team Xtreem PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL 4-4-4-10
Team Xtreem Dark Series PC2-6400 2GB 2xX1GB DDR2-800 4-4-4-12

The OCZ Platinum are the cheapest, the Corsair Dominators are suprisingly the most expensive. I've heard good things about Team and G.Skill, Corsair seems to be an old favourite, and OCZ is pretty aggressive on pricing.

My goals are:
Stability
Ease of use (i.e. can i plug the modules in and boot the system on the first go?)
Minimal overclocking (though that would be much farther down the road once I gain some knowledge; for now everything is stock)

Thank you all for your help.

I'm running @ 400MHz FSB with G.Skill Extreme F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ 2GB PC2-6400 CL4-4-4-12 at 1:1. As I am runninc specs on the memory, I cannot tell you about overclocking them, but they are supposed to be very good overclockers. From the stability point of view, I am completelly satisfied.

[pancito]

OCZ Platinum XTC OCZ2P800R22GK PC2-6400 Rev2 4-4-4-15

I have this memory it not a good combo IMO, it goes 1:1 up until 350 after that you need to let SPD control your latencies, wich are set to 5-6-6-18.

Regards

[DJSUB]

whats the latest recommended bios?

tnx

[Severance]

I have tried 5 different kinds of memory on this baord. It seems that all memory that i have tried is only truly stable to around 920-930mhz. any more then that and programs like nero vision or dvd shirnk will fail but super pi will go forever and ever.

[fornowagain]

What exactly does POST mean?
Power-on self-test

[MrDisco]

OCZ Platinum XTC OCZ2P800R22GK PC2-6400 Rev2 4-4-4-15

I have this memory it not a good combo IMO, it goes 1:1 up until 350 after that you need to let SPD control your latencies, wich are set to 5-6-6-18.

Regards

i threw that one in there due to the pricing. for ocz i'm leaning towards the SO UE kit.

[[CyC]]

been lurking way too long on this board

im testing for stability at 3.7 ghz on my e6600 28b and set my vcore at 1.45. noticed on everest and speedfan that my vcore reads 1.40 on full load.. is that normal on this board?

[flashnc]

yes..the vdroop issue what you are seeing CyC.....

by the way.....that is a very respectable oc at that voltage...... ;)

[jvinsepa]

Anyone with shutdown problem? Whenever I select shutdown in windows the mobo just restart...

I'm having the same problem. Has anyone figured it out yet?

Also, I can't get my Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4 to run at DDR2-700 to be 1:1 with my 350FSB on a E6600. The processor OCs great to get to 3150Mhz (350x9), but the RAM will only show ~260Mhz in CPU-Z, and shows up at POST saying PC2-3200. When I try to increase it manually (it works with the OC 30% profile, but again, the memory won't go faster).

I tried setting the vMCH to 1.65, the vCore to 1.35, vDimm to 2.1, and disabling both HyperPath and Digital Home mode. Also tried setting timings to 4-4-4-12 as stated in the product description, and enabling SPD with the same results. SPD on this ram I believe is 5-5-5-18.

It won't get into windows - restarting before the desktop, or programs not starting - complaining of memory not being able to be read.

This is on BIOS 1801, but it also happens on 1707 and 1404.

Thanks for any help!

[mat8861]

I'm having the same problem. Has anyone figured it out yet?

Also, I can't get my Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4 to run at DDR2-700 to be 1:1 with my 350FSB on a E6600. The processor OCs great to get to 3150Mhz (350x9), but the RAM will only show ~260Mhz in CPU-Z, and shows up at POST saying PC2-3200. When I try to increase it manually (it works with the OC 30% profile, but again, the memory won't go faster).

I tried setting the vMCH to 1.65, the vCore to 1.35, vDimm to 2.1, and disabling both HyperPath and Digital Home mode. Also tried setting timings to 4-4-4-12 as stated in the product description, and enabling SPD with the same results. SPD on this ram I believe is 5-5-5-18.

It won't get into windows - restarting before the desktop, or programs not starting - complaining of memory not being able to be read.

This is on BIOS 1801, but it also happens on 1707 and 1404.

Thanks for any help!
I had almost the same problem but now I boot with processor at 3.20mhz with spd and then with new memset in windows the memory goes up to 425 with no probl...and I have 4-4-4-10

[jvinsepa]

I had almost the same problem but now I boot with processor at 3.20mhz with spd and then with new memset in windows the memory goes up to 425 with no probl...and I have 4-4-4-10

what utility is this? could you post a link?

Thank you.

[jvinsepa]

I had almost the same problem but now I boot with processor at 3.20mhz with spd and then with new memset in windows the memory goes up to 425 with no probl...and I have 4-4-4-10

I found a util called Tweak865, but it won't run for me - just saying "an error occurred".

[mat8861]

http://rv.page.cegetel.net.perso.cegetel.net/

Actually the latest version has been made in co-operation with this forum experts

[mat8861]

i threw that one in there due to the pricing. for ocz i'm leaning towards the SO UE kit.
see previous post....

[Severance]

x6800
p5wdh
ati1950xtx crossfire

I think i have found memory that seems to work very well with this motherboard at a cheap price. OCZ 22p8001gk-pc2-6400...$149.99 canadian. I have this 1 gig kit running at 1000mhz 4.4.4.15 timings runing memtest for 6 hours so far no errors. It is testing faster then my $700 flex xlc and my $500 corsair 8500c5 memory. Just did 10050 in everest. My flex ocz can ony hit 9600. I feel stupid and poor now ..lol

[icecpu]

Ez-raid set up not working right on P5W DH Deluxe , HELP NEEDED FOR RAID 0 ( 2 WD 74GB Raptor )

I did everything correctly as stated in the manual
set the jumper mode 100
set enabled in bios for EZ-raid mode change
installed OS
installed EZ-raid manager utility

No matter what I did it came out to be a big raid, I set the jumper 100 or 001 came out the same to be big raid , my 2 74gb add up to 139gb showing on the system and EZ - Raid manager utility.

[JimB]

Ez-raid set up not working right on P5W DH Deluxe , HELP NEEDED FOR RAID 0 ( 2 WD 74GB Raptor )

I did everything correctly as stated in the manual
set the jumper mode 100
set enabled in bios for EZ-raid mode change
installed OS
installed EZ-raid manager utility

No matter what I did it came out to be a big raid, I set the jumper 100 or 001 came out the same to be big raid , my 2 74gb add up to 139gb showing on the system and EZ - Raid manager utility.

Well RAID-0 is just striped with no redundancy, so it will be the size of both drives combined, but the method of writing the data is such that each successive block will be written to an alternate disk, where-as on a JBOD setup, sucessive data doesn't necessarily get split between the two disks (and is therefore slower to read and write than RAID 0).
If you are looking for a mirrored setup where the total size is still around 74 GB, but with full redundancy, choose a RAID-1 setup.

[lawrywild]

Ez-raid set up not working right on P5W DH Deluxe , HELP NEEDED FOR RAID 0 ( 2 WD 74GB Raptor )

I did everything correctly as stated in the manual
set the jumper mode 100
set enabled in bios for EZ-raid mode change
installed OS
installed EZ-raid manager utility

No matter what I did it came out to be a big raid, I set the jumper 100 or 001 came out the same to be big raid , my 2 74gb add up to 139gb showing on the system and EZ - Raid manager utility.


?? RAID 0 would show 139gb aswell

[NghtShd]

No matter what I did it came out to be a big raid, I set the jumper 100 or 001 came out the same to be big raid , my 2 74gb add up to 139gb showing on the system and EZ - Raid manager utility.

No idea about that, but might I suggest not using EZ-RAID? You'll get better performance using SATA 1 and 3.

[icecpu]

?? RAID 0 would show 139gb aswell

I thought raid 0 (fast raid) for two 74gb raptor would show up as one drive of 74 gb

[CrazyAnt]

that happens in RAID 10 where u get half the quantity of the disks cause raid10 is a combination of raid0 and raid 1

so as far as u get 2x74 u are ok

[icecpu]

No idea about that, but might I suggest not using EZ-RAID? You'll get better performance using SATA 1 and 3.

I never setup a raid before, have no idea how to set up a raid array. Hoping for the Asus Ez-raid backup feature does the job, came out to be useless feature. Currently have to set my two new 74gb raptors as a two separate harddrive. One for OS and the other for game.

[daos]

Which BIOS revision allows unlocked multipliers up and down on this board? 1506?

[daos]

Sorry for the double post.

[BenchZowner]

Which BIOS revision allows unlocked multipliers up and down on this board? 1506?

Only ES ( Engineering Samples ) & X6800/QX6700 CPUs feature upwards unlocked ratios/multipliers.

But...thanks to Asus, if you flash to 1707 or 1801, you lose the upwards multis [ my X6800 on the P5WDH with BIOS 1801 features only 6-11 Multis :P ].
So, stick with 1602 as long as you...want your multipliers :D

[daos]

Only ES ( Engineering Samples ) & X6800/QX6700 CPUs feature upwards unlocked ratios/multipliers.

But...thanks to Asus, if you flash to 1707 or 1801, you lose the upwards multis [ my X6800 on the P5WDH with BIOS 1801 features only 6-11 Multis :P ].
So, stick with 1602 as long as you...want your multipliers :D


Yeah I own a e6700ES and I can only reach 10. Sucks cause my board only does 400fsb.

[icecpu]

so is this seem right to everybody??
EZ-raid 0 on P5W DH Deluxe of two 74gb raptors is one drive of 138gb ??

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n174/mycotrang/untitled-1.jpg

[MrDisco]

Hopefully a P5W DH owner could answer this for me. Can the board support 6 SATA drives *without* using RAID? I'm concerned about the 2 orange SATA ports which are used for the 'EZBackup' feature. Will those two ports also allow for just regular SATA useage?

[Gascogne]

What was the tRFC value one should have now again?