ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

[gaddster]

How high did you get with manual timings?
Thx

Not really sure what they'll do. 266x9 and manual timings is ok but my chip will do 3.6 so that's no good. Even 400x9 1:1 as others have said is a no no. I'm now running 425x8 which means i can run really low volts on the cpu and OC the mem a little, albeit with rubbish timings. Still good for a sub 15sec Super-Pi though.

[Eastcoasthandle]

Not really sure what they'll do. 266x9 and manual timings is ok but my chip will do 3.6 so that's no good. Even 400x9 1:1 as others have said is a no no. I'm now running 425x8 which means i can run really low volts on the cpu and OC the mem a little, albeit with rubbish timings. Still good for a sub 15sec Super-Pi though.
I take it you don't like the 8 multi and want something in the 9 multi. Why not try 350x9 and work your way to something like 380x9

[sidenine]

I’m hoping the knowledgeable folks on this forum can help me with this problem I’m having, on my first build ever. While it’s my first build, I will say that I’m very familiar with components, and how they interact, but this problem has stumped me.

Specs:
Antec P180 case with 4 Yate Loon D12SL fans (2 fans in push-pull on Scythe Ninja, 1 intake in front upper chamber, 1 intake in lower chamber)
Seasonic S12 HE+ 550 Watt PSU
P5W DH Deluxe 1.85 MCH version with 1506 bios (Thermal pads and covers removed from NB and SB heatsinks and replaced with AC5)
Intel C2E X6800 @ 3.20GHz (266 x 12)
2GB (2x1024) Mushkin XP2-8000 DDR2 RAM @ 800 MHz (2:3 divider 4-4-4-12)
HIS Radeon X1950 Pro
WD 500 GB SATA drive on SATA 3 channel
WD 160 GB SATA drive on SATA 4 channel
DVD-ROM on IDE channel master
BenQ DW1640 DVD +RW on IDE channel slave

The problems are:

1. System becomes unstable and spontaneously reboots (no BSOD) whenever 3D gaming or 2D video rendering occurs. The system is perfectly stable, and seems generally fine when idle, and even runs Orthos without fail. I was also able to transcode a 300MB Xvid to DVD format without any problems. Whenever I play a video or play a game, the system will tolerate a few minutes, then reboot without explanation (yes I’ve already unchecked “automatically reboot” in the advanced settings of My Computer).

I thought this was maybe due to my graphics card being faulty, so I swapped with another one and the same problem occurred. Core Temp and Everest reports the proc is running at around 41C at idle, and I’ve never seen it above 55C at load. Motherboard (SB) temp is reported at 39C in Everest. I’ve ruled out temps being the problem. I have latest Catalyst driver, but not latest MB BIOS due to the inability to adjust multiplier up on my X6800 with that bios. I’ve disabled HyperPath, DRAM throttling, Speedstep, etc in BIOS, but all voltages are at auto except for RAM which is at 2.2V. I figure it could be faulty MB or RAM at this point, but MemTest 86+ didn’t report any failures. I have updated the BIOS a few times, but never cleared the CMOS via jumpers, just used the /pbnc /n switches in AFUDOS. Any suggestions for how I can stop my system from spontaneous reboots?

2. Cannot seem to get stable even at 333 FSB, even with relaxed memory timings, let alone reach anywhere near 400 FSB for 1:1 memory operation. Not even trying to hit super aggressive clock on my X6800 (3.46GHz). This is not my main problem, just more of an annoyance as I’d prefer to run memory at 1:1. I can’t seem to hit the rated speed of 1000MHz on my Mushkin RAM and be stable, even at loose timings. I’m assuming this is due to dividers. Do I need to drop multi way down to 8 to run at high FSB?

[Sparx]

Sidenine
Did you run RAM 1:1?
Did you check back in this thread on BIOS settings?
sparx

[sidenine]

Sparx,

Yes, I tried running RAM at 1:1 on 266 FSB and same results. I basically ran everything at stock (including setting 266 x 11 for X6800) and had the same problem.

I've tried all recommended BIOS settings, and still cannot get a high stable FSB.

[Sparx]

Sparx,

Yes, I tried running RAM at 1:1 on 266 FSB and same results. I basically ran everything at stock (including setting 266 x 11 for X6800) and had the same problem.

I've tried all recommended BIOS settings, and still cannot get a high stable FSB.
Wierd, as you said.

You might try to boost the vcore a little since the vcore is low according to BIOS reports. I don't recall how much vdroop there is but it might help to raise it a couple of notches.

Also, you mentioned you did not clear cmos with jumper, it wouldn't hurt if you did. I know it sucks to have to reset all BIOS. :eek:
For a test, try running 3D03 and 3D05.
sparx

[Gascogne]

You might try to boost the vcore a little since the vcore is low according to BIOS reports. I don't recall how much vdroop there is but it might help to raise it a couple of notches.I have a drop off 0.02-0.03v

[1stMIchris]

Hello,
Im having a problem, this is my 3rd build but my first overclock. Basically whats happening is similar to sidenine's problem accept instead of rebooting about 5 ten min. into playing dark messiah my comp just freezes. :confused:

It doesnt seem to do this at stock settings so im wondering if maybe its a a bios setting i have wrong or if something is not getting enough (or to much even) power.
My temps are all fine cpu 40c idle 43c under load
and my mobo stays around 45-50c.

here is my machine and bios settings any help would be appreciated.

mobo-p5w dh (obviously)-1602 bios version

processor-e6600

gpu-evga 8800gtx

ram-crucial ballistix ddr1000 2gigs

cooling-vigor moonsoon heatsink

psu-ocz game X stream 700 watt

I know everything is put together right and its 100 percent stable at stock settings. With that said here ar my bios settings oc'd.

cpu frequency-378

dram-756 (1:1 ratio)

pci clock-33.33

memory voltage-2.2

cpu voltage-1.5

mch-1.55

fsb terminate-1.4

Also my Dram timings are set to manual and are at 5-5-5-15 with everything else in advanced chipset disabled except for Dram throttling. Advanced cpu has microde update and virtualization enabled and everything else is disabled.

I've spent alot of time researching overclocking online and your forum has the best and most consistently helpful support, Any help is greatly appreciated and i thank you in advance :toast:

[Eastcoasthandle]

I’m hoping the knowledgeable folks on this forum can help me with this problem I’m having, on my first build ever. While it’s my first build, I will say that I’m very familiar with components, and how they interact, but this problem has stumped me.

Had similar problem and disabling Hyper Path 3 and Dram Write Recovery Time of 5 seem to fix it for me.

[1stMIchris]

hmm my dram write recovery is at 4 im gonna try bumpin that up real quick

[Eastcoasthandle]

Hello,
Im having a problem, this is my 3rd build but my first overclock. Basically whats happening is similar to sidenine's problem accept instead of rebooting about 5 ten min. into playing dark messiah my comp just freezes. :confused:

It doesnt seem to do this at stock settings so im wondering if maybe its a a bios setting i have wrong or if something is not getting enough (or to much even) power.
My temps are all fine cpu 40c idle 43c under load
and my mobo stays around 45-50c.

here is my machine and bios settings any help would be appreciated.

mobo-p5w dh (obviously)-1602 bios version

processor-e6600

gpu-evga 8800gtx

ram-crucial ballistix ddr1000 2gigs

cooling-vigor moonsoon heatsink

psu-ocz game X stream 700 watt

I know everything is put together right and its 100 percent stable at stock settings. With that said here ar my bios settings oc'd.

cpu frequency-378

dram-756 (1:1 ratio)

pci clock-33.33

memory voltage-2.2 try 2.30V

cpu voltage-1.5

mch-1.55 try 1.65

ICH C/S Voltage: 1.20

fsb terminate-1.4

Also my Dram timings are set to manual and are at 5-5-5-15 with everything else in advanced chipset disabled except for Dram throttling. Advanced cpu has microde update and virtualization enabled and everything else is disabled.

I've spent alot of time researching overclocking online and your forum has the best and most consistently helpful support, Any help is greatly appreciated and i thank you in advance :toast:

I have made some recommendations. However it is my opinion that running the ram at it's rated speed of PC8000 provides the most optimium performance. Therefore 333FSB maybe ideal for you if this OC does not work.

[1stMIchris]

Thank you, i'll try that. As this is my first oc im comfortable with everything accept the voltages so i tend to keep them as low as possible.

[Eastcoasthandle]

Thank you, i'll try that. As this is my first oc im comfortable with everything accept the voltages so i tend to keep them as low as possible.
My $.02:
Although Crucial is not in this review I do believe they use the same IC. And, in most cases (with a fan) scale well with a tad more voltage.

When we talked about Mushkin on page 2, we mentioned the fact that Mushkin warrants their memory up to 2.3V operation, while the other manufacturers all warrant 2.4V or 2.45V. It has been clear for a while now that Micron chips scale very well with additional voltage, so we decided to give the Mushkin some more juice to play with. And my oh my, have a look at the screen and the performance at 2.45V ! The redline has no trouble keeping up with the other memory kits now: it goes up to 1130Mhz, even surpassing the OCZ and Corsair performance… So if Mushkin had warranted…. You catch my drift.
Source (http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=9&artpage=2140&articID=514)

[1stMIchris]

Just happened again :( guess im gonna bump my fsb down to 333 and see what happens.

[Pol1977]

Just happened again :( guess im gonna bump my fsb down to 333 and see what happens.

I had the exact freezing in games until I upped the mch to 1.65 V.
It's rock - stable now. I suggest you try that.

[sidenine]

Just ran 3D05 and had 10,831 3dmarks. No errors and all tests ran without rebooting. Couldn't even run RAM at 1067 (1:2 ratio) with bump in voltage to 2.4V at relaxed timings, and my issue still doesn't improve by bumping DRAM Write Recovery Time to 5 at any speed (even my stable 800MHz). Bumped vCore to 1.4V with no stability improvement. Cleared CMOS by moving jumper, and no improvement. I just had another spontaneous reboot while installing a game and downloading some files at the same time. No heavy 3D or 2D rendering. Also forgot to mention that Firefox 2.0 will sometimes spontaneously close while I'm surfing (and doing nothing else). Is my mobo shot? Hopefully not, as the mods I've made (removing NB and SB covers and replacing thermal pads with AC5) has surely voided my warranty!

I'm re-running Memtest 86+ overnight to make sure no memory problems are detected, and will report in the morning.

[Eastcoasthandle]

I had the exact freezing in games until I upped the mch to 1.65 V.
It's rock - stable now. I suggest you try that.
1.65V is pure ownage :toast:

[Hajpoj]

Now what about the Zalman 9500 Aircooler? I already have one and don't want it to go to waste. I want to OC to 3.2GHZ with an E6600, will I be fine?


Edit: Also, what's better? 400 x 8 FSB, Or 355.5x9 FSB to reach 3.2GHZ?

[Sparx]

Just ran 3D05 and had 10,831 3dmarks. No errors and all tests ran without rebooting. Couldn't even run RAM at 1067 (1:2 ratio) with bump in voltage to 2.4V at relaxed timings, and my issue still doesn't improve by bumping DRAM Write Recovery Time to 5 at any speed (even my stable 800MHz). Bumped vCore to 1.4V with no stability improvement. Cleared CMOS by moving jumper, and no improvement. I just had another spontaneous reboot while installing a game and downloading some files at the same time. No heavy 3D or 2D rendering. Also forgot to mention that Firefox 2.0 will sometimes spontaneously close while I'm surfing (and doing nothing else). Is my mobo shot? Hopefully not, as the mods I've made (removing NB and SB covers and replacing thermal pads with AC5) has surely voided my warranty!

I'm re-running Memtest 86+ overnight to make sure no memory problems are detected, and will report in the morning.
When you removed the covers from the heat sinks did you retain them in one piece? If so just stick em' back on.
Where did you buy the board?
sparx

[scaramonga]

(removing NB and SB covers and replacing thermal pads with AC5) has surely voided my warranty!

Yes it has.

Like myself also.......but that's the risk we choose to take when modding...:rolleyes:

Something goes wrong......then your screwed........sorry.....but the truth.

[Sparx]

Well not sure about that for all situations.
I rma'd one P5W dh Dx with the foil caps removed and replaced to Newegg with no problem. In my case the foil caps looked almost as good as new.
sparx

[sidenine]

Memtest 86+ ran without errors again. Running Orthos now, but it's appearing to be stable (at least after 45 mins). Is the consensus that something is wrong with my mobo? Any other tips would be appreciated.

[DoNoT.O.C]

Yeah. finaly am able to post here :banana:

Me too I have been suffering for two days :toast:

Anyway, hey guys, just from ten minutes ago the UPS guy knocked my door, and I recieved the package which include my system :banana:

Any recommendations before I start to put everything togther?? ofcourse I am here in this thread because the Momboard is P5W, I hope for no problems with that thing, you got me scared but hope for better result
Any recommendations, advice will be truly welcomed and appreciated
Here is my system:

Asus P5W
Scythe SCNJ-1100P CPU Cooling
Nexus 120 mm Quiet Case Fan
OCZ Gold XTC 1024MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz
Microsoft WindowsXP-PRO SP2
XFX PVT71PUDD3 GeForce 7900GS 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 Conroe 2.13GHz
COOLMAX CUG-700B ATX 12V( V.2.2) 700W Modular Power Supply
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache (SATA interface)

The only thing missing is the DVD/CD ROM it was out of stock
But I have now two old ATA IDE Hard drives, with windows ME installed, what do you think guys?
I want use at least one of them right now just to test the system if it is working or not:rehab:

Any DooS or DontS are VERY welcomed

[Eastcoasthandle]

Me too I have been suffering for two days :toast:

Anyway, hey guys, just from ten minutes ago the UPS guy knocked my door, and I recieved the package which include my system :banana:

Any recommendations before I start to put everything togther?? ofcourse I am here in this thread because the Momboard is P5W, I hope for no problems with that thing, you got me scared but hope for better result
Any recommendations, advice will be truly welcomed and appreciated
Here is my system:

Asus P5W
Scythe SCNJ-1100P CPU Cooling
Nexus 120 mm Quiet Case Fan
OCZ Gold XTC 1024MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz
Microsoft WindowsXP-PRO SP2
XFX PVT71PUDD3 GeForce 7900GS 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 Conroe 2.13GHz
COOLMAX CUG-700B ATX 12V( V.2.2) 700W Modular Power Supply
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache (SATA interface)

The only thing missing is the DVD/CD ROM it was out of stock
But I have now two old ATA IDE Hard drives, with windows ME installed, what do you think guys?
I want use at least one of them right now just to test the system if it is working or not:rehab:

Any DooS or DontS are VERY welcomed

:welcome:
Setup your system to standard clock then install XP first with SP2. Once XP is installed and you want to OC be my guess.

[DoNoT.O.C]

:welcome:
Setup your system to standard clock then install XP first with SP2. Once XP is installed and you want to OC be my guess.
Thanks man
I wanta say that this will be my first build ever, so I am guessing it will be somehow challenging for me
So how do you recommend installing the IDE drive, is it tricky on this Mobo?

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Asus P5W
Scythe SCNJ-1100P CPU Cooling
Nexus 120 mm Quiet Case Fan
OCZ Gold XTC 1024MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz
Microsoft WindowsXP-PRO SP2
XFX PVT71PUDD3 GeForce 7900GS 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 Conroe 2.13GHz
COOLMAX CUG-700B ATX 12V( V.2.2) 700W Modular Power Supply
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache (SATA interface)

The only thing missing is the DVD/CD ROM it was out of stock
But I have now two old ATA IDE Hard drives, with windows ME installed

Any DooS or DontS are VERY welcomed

................................
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:stick:

[Gascogne]

There hasn't come any new bios after 1705 yet?

[Sparx]

Memtest 86+ ran without errors again. Running Orthos now, but it's appearing to be stable (at least after 45 mins). Is the consensus that something is wrong with my mobo? Any other tips would be appreciated.
What did you change?
Can you list applied voltages?
sparx

[Eastcoasthandle]

Thanks man
I wanta say that this will be my first build ever, so I am guessing it will be somehow challenging for me
So how do you recommend installing the IDE drive, is it tricky on this Mobo?

........:
None that I know of. I would suggest that you first take that tin foil off the NB HS and put a 40mm fan on that NB HS. It works wonders when you OC. Most people still don't know that yet. There is a thread (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=106563) that discusses it.

[Sparx]

None that I know of. I would suggest that you first take that tin foil off the NB HS and put a 40mm fan on that NB HS. It works wonders when you OC. Most people still don't know that yet. There is a thread (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=106563) that discusses it.

You said a mouthful- EastCoast.
The heat of the MCH has been discussed over and over here. :confused:

[sidenine]

Sparx,
All voltages are set at auto with the exception of vCore at 1.4V and RAM at 2.2V. I've tried maxing my RAM to 2.4V and increasing speed to 1067MHz, but got some BSOD's when booting into XP.

I've tried suggestions on increasing FSB, MCH, and ICH voltages up as shown on this thread, but have not found a winning combo yet.

[revenant]

None that I know of. I would suggest that you first take that tin foil off the NB HS and put a 40mm fan on that NB HS. It works wonders when you OC. Most people still don't know that yet. There is a thread (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=106563) that discusses it.

you especially want to do this if you install the board in a BTX (up-side-down) config..

[Eastcoasthandle]

I forgot to mention that when you go 1.55V, 1.60V or 1.65V on your MCH you need a fan for your NB HS. Or else it won't make much different at all to a stable OC. Over heated NB will cause freezing and reboots.

[icecpu]

I have p5w dh deluxe, corsair 8500C5D , E6600

Currently running at 3.6 gb 400x9
In bios setting under DRAM Frequency I set ddr2-800, so my memory is 1:1 ratio 400 Mhz

What I want is to run the memory at 500 Mhz without changing the cpu frequency. What I have to set under DRAM Frequency in the bios that make my memory running at 500Mhz.Thanks

[Malk4vi4n]

I have a p5wdh and I am not able to reach more than 320FSB whenever I set mem timings manually on bios. I mean, the same stable configuration with automatic timings means NO BOOT on manual timings on bios even if they are the same.
I see people here runnin' 425FSB with ram timings set manually and I can't pass 320.
Somebody help?!

[BenchZowner]

The no-boot if RAM = manual timings seems to be a board to RAM configuration problem.
For example my friend's P5WDH would not boot with manual timings over 330MHz FSB with his OCZ 6400 Gold, but will boot fine 'til 399MHz with a pair of OCZ PC6400SOE.

You can try re-writing your SPD with the desired timings ( assuming that you've tested your ram modules )

[Malk4vi4n]

The no-boot if RAM = manual timings seems to be a board to RAM configuration problem.
For example my friend's P5WDH would not boot with manual timings over 330MHz FSB with his OCZ 6400 Gold, but will boot fine 'til 399MHz with a pair of OCZ PC6400SOE.

You can try re-writing your SPD with the desired timings ( assuming that you've tested your ram modules )

Nice..how do I do that?

I'll do some exaustive testing on the ram tonight to see what they are made of. I've been able to hit DDR2 950 with 2.2v. Not bad for value ram, but i'll REAL test 'em tonight. How much voltage you thing I should aim for?

[BenchZowner]

You can edit & flash your modules SPD with Thaiphoon Burner or the SPDtool by Wizard ( techpowerup.com for download links )

Remember not to keep a low freq & "trash" timings just to allow the motherboards to boot with 'em.

You can find some information on SPD editing & flashing [ and usage of SPDtool & Thaiphoon Burner here ] { search.php keywoard = taiphoon }

[deguello]

I have been able to boot with manual timings since the 160X series bios with this ram BL2KIT12864AA663. It is PC5300 rated at 3-3-3-12 at 667 and 2.2 voltage.

I have no trouble running it set as manual in BIOS at 4-4-4-12, 2.2V and 800 (PC6400). It will go higher but it will not make 1000 speeds no matter how much voltage I give it. Truthfully, I haven't tried every single thing I can to get it stable at 1000, cause I like it 1:1 and I am running 800/1600 or 400x9, depending on how you view it.

These are D9's and if needed, I have a link to the actual IC's, but they are the most popular OC'ing D9s. I purchased 4 sticks about a year ago, so I can't say what they are now as far as IC's go.

[BenchZowner]

It's the board setting some really random values @ tRD & tRFC that prevent you from running your RAM @ high freqs

Been discussed in Gskill Tech Support forum here.

[1stMIchris]

I forgot to mention that when you go 1.55V, 1.60V or 1.65V on your MCH you need a fan for your NB HS. Or else it won't make much different at all to a stable OC. Over heated NB will cause freezing and reboots.

My mobo temp is sometimes like 53c. I've been told by a friend of mine that thats to be expected with higher end mobo's for oc'ing and its ok. Should i put AS5 on the n/sb? I tried reformatting in case windows wasnt stable (i had a run in with Ntune that went kinda sour) and tried Dark Messiah it played last night for a couple hours fine but then froze today.

My voltages are currently

cpu 1.5

ram-2.1

MCH-1.65

[Eastcoasthandle]

My mobo temp is sometimes like 53c. I've been told by a friend of mine that thats to be expected with higher end mobo's for oc'ing and its ok. Should i put AS5 on the n/sb? I tried reformatting in case windows wasnt stable (i had a run in with Ntune that went kinda sour) and tried Dark Messiah it played last night for a couple hours fine but then froze today.

My voltages are currently

cpu 1.5

ram-2.1

MCH-1.65
53C on the NB is Red HOT at idle. I am at 29C with the heater on. I suggest reading that link that will help you clean that crap they call TC and reapply AS5 and put a 40mm fan on that NB HS, pronto!

[Timmaah]

I forgot to mention that when you go 1.55V, 1.60V or 1.65V on your MCH you need a fan for your NB HS. Or else it won't make much different at all to a stable OC. Over heated NB will cause freezing and reboots.

... one reason why i cant get past fsb of 393 perhaps? my mch set at 1.85v.. then again i have a crappy weak cpu :(


Erm... tin foil? You mean that plastic sheet which is hard to notice first time?

[Eastcoasthandle]

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/E6700/14138c0f0fc34ff1e61fccfd3ce937e8.jpg?t=1166126702
E6700 with P5W DH, Corsair PC 8500...does this look fishy to you?
link (http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=570&p=1)
EDIT: I just tried and couldn't get the PC to post.

[psy4fun]

Hi Eastcoasthandle,

In his post, 1stMIchris talk about mobo temp, not NB temp.

How we can measure NB temp?


53C on the NB is Red HOT at idle. I am at 29C with the heater on. I suggest reading that link that will help you clean that crap they call TC and reapply AS5 and put a 40mm fan on that NB HS, pronto!

[Eastcoasthandle]

Hi Eastcoasthandle,

In his post, 1stMIchris talk about mobo temp, not NB temp.

How we can measure NB temp?
I see, well the only temp that I know of is on the NB. I am not sure where another temp probe is located on the MB itself.

[Eastcoasthandle]

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/306FSB_Bios1.jpg
Here is my setup using PC 8500

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/Bootup_306.jpg
Here it is booting up.

[psy4fun]

Thanks, now I can confirm if the AS5 I have put on the NB and SB have contributed to more cool temps.

I see, well the only temp that I know of is on the NB. I am not sure where another temp probe is located on the MB itself.

[Eastcoasthandle]

... one reason why i cant get past fsb of 393 perhaps? my mch set at 1.85v.. then again i have a crappy weak cpu :(


Erm... tin foil? You mean that plastic sheet which is hard to notice first time?
The HS on the North/South Bridge HS is covered with a thin layer metal. It's glued on so taking it off is fairly easy. You will need to buy a 40mm fan (http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/50milfan.html) for the NB HS. I used 2 screws to hold mine on.

[lawrywild]

Nice..how do I do that?

I'll do some exaustive testing on the ram tonight to see what they are made of. I've been able to hit DDR2 950 with 2.2v. Not bad for value ram, but i'll REAL test 'em tonight. How much voltage you thing I should aim for?

Won't work, don't even try it. I've tried several SPDs of ram which booted manual timings on other boards and also tried editing my own, made no difference whatsoever..

[Malk4vi4n]

Won't work, don't even try it. I've tried several SPDs of ram which booted manual timings on other boards and also tried editing my own, made no difference whatsoever..

Ok so...what should I do?

Another thing: Is the MB reader on asus probe the NB temperature? Mine keeps at 40º LOAD. Is that good for an nice overclock

[lawrywild]

There's nothing TO do... :(

and no, the probe mobo temp is for Southbridge - ICH7R

[Prelim]

trfc matters again :dammit:

[psy4fun]

So, how we measure NB temp?

There's nothing TO do... :(

and no, the probe mobo temp is for Southbridge - ICH7R

[cuke2u]

Hi, Asus state, in their q&a, that the motherboard sensor, unlike other manufacturers, is placed at the hottest point of the motherboard.
So believe that if you will..
ChrisC

[cuke2u]

Hi,1707 here ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/ no idea what it might fix. It may well be the same as the unofficial 1705...
ChrisC

[vallik]

i havnt checked this thread out in quite awhile but i was wondering if there have been any good bios's released as im stuck @ 3.42Ghz with 1.48 Vcore on my E6600 havnt primed @ that setting either just ran benchmarks

i have a rock solid 3060Mhz 1.36 Vcore but would like to get higher clocks to run benchmarks and such

so any decent bios's (possible one that unlocks the multi down like the P5B does?)

Cheers

[Phoenix_TT]

Anyone have the problem where your system hangs when entering the BIOS flash utility ? I'm on 1602 BIOS and the system is not overclocked.

[Eastcoasthandle]

Don't use the Bios Flash Utility!!! BE aware!!!!

[FabricioGS]

Folks, I need some help in here. I'm trying to get 3.2GHz stable to use on a day by day basis but to get this I need 1,475v. Isn't that too much?

http://img276.imageshack.us/my.php?image=conroe3208ghzzq4.png

vFSB, MCH and ICH at minimum, PCI-e = 100, PCI = 33.33 and Performance Mode = Turbo.

At least my memories are good. Their running 890 @ 4-4-4-13 with 2,15v :toast:

[OneyedK]

Looks good Viper.Br... Vcore is no problem...

I get the best results with vMCH at 1.55V up to 430MHz fsb.
@ 1.60V I can reach 440MHz, but not more :mad:
(rest of the settings are the same as yours)
MCX159cu on the northbridge...

Keep your ram 1:1 to find the highest cpu-OC...

[Malk4vi4n]

Looks good Viper.Br... Vcore is no problem...

I get the best results with vMCH at 1.55V up to 430MHz fsb.
@ 1.60V I can reach 440MHz, but not more :mad:
(rest of the settings are the same as yours)
MCX159cu on the northbridge...

Keep your ram 1:1 to find the highest cpu-OC...

How do you get fsb like that?
Do you use active NB cooling?
Can you send me some BIOS screens?!

[OneyedK]

How do you get fsb like that?
Do you use active NB cooling?
Can you send me some BIOS screens?!

Nothing special... (bought the motherboard on the 15th of august, so it's an early revision) bios is 1707 atm.
cpu: E6400 retail boxed
cpu-cooler: cnps9500cu (silent mode)
nb-cooler: Swiftech MCX159cu (active, silent mode)
sb-cooler: lapped ASUS stocksink with silent Papst 120mm blowing towards it (diected on the intake of the X1900XTX stockkoeler, those mosfets get hot)

Send me your e-mail-address in pm, will take some pictures from bios tonight (not at home atm). Will 400MHz do? (24/7 folding setting) or would you like to see the bencheable edge???

[Phoenix_TT]

From Asus website ...

P5W DH Deluxe BIOS 1707
Support Intel SpeedStep in Vista
Update JMicron option rom to 1.06.63
Support new CPUs. Please refer to our website at: http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx

[ketma]

Anyone have the problem where your system hangs when entering the BIOS flash utility ? I'm on 1602 BIOS and the system is not overclocked.

Hi, it only hangs if you have a HDD connected that is using NTFS. This is not supported, simply disconnect the HDD cable and you'll have access to FAT32, CD drives, etc.

It works fine, I went from: shipped bios -> 1602 -> 1705.

Cheers.

[Phoenix_TT]

I'm sure it's worked ok on previous BIOS revisions with NTFS formatted HDD connected.

Anyway I can update the BIOS using a DOS floppy or from Windows.

[Timmaah]

The HS on the North/South Bridge HS is covered with a thin layer metal. It's glued on so taking it off is fairly easy. You will need to buy a 40mm fan (http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/50milfan.html) for the NB HS. I used 2 screws to hold mine on.


Hmm.. never noticed that :/ I thought the big gold looking block was the heatsink...

There any guides of removing it and putting a new heatsink on?

[OneyedK]

Can you send me some BIOS screens?!

Nock yourself out ;-)
Bios screens @ 440MHz (http://users.pandora.be/kastaar/HO/Allendale/MaxBench%20P5W%20DH/)
(screen below is taken with settings in bios above)

http://users.pandora.be/kastaar/HO/Allendale/MaxBench%20P5W%20DH/E6400benchmax.JPG

[scaramonga]

Hmm.. never noticed that :/ I thought the big gold looking block was the heatsink...

There any guides of removing it and putting a new heatsink on?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=106563&highlight=p5w+deluxe

[nicepun]

Nock yourself out ;-)
Bios screens @ 440MHz (http://users.pandora.be/kastaar/HO/Allendale/MaxBench%20P5W%20DH/)
(screen below is taken with settings in bios above)

http://users.pandora.be/kastaar/HO/Allendale/MaxBench%20P5W%20DH/E6400benchmax.JPG


How did you get 4gb of 512mb xms2-5400UL to fit in your mobo? LOL :eek:

[Eastcoasthandle]

this thread (http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20061112200624969&board_id=1&model=P5W+DH+Deluxe&page=1&SLanguage=en-us) may be of some help for some

[FabricioGS]

Looks good Viper.Br... Vcore is no problem...

I get the best results with vMCH at 1.55V up to 430MHz fsb.
@ 1.60V I can reach 440MHz, but not more :mad:
(rest of the settings are the same as yours)
MCX159cu on the northbridge...

Keep your ram 1:1 to find the highest cpu-OC...

Thanks OneyedK. I´ll use the 1:1 tip and later will post the results.

[lawrywild]

this thread (http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20061112200624969&board_id=1&model=P5W+DH+Deluxe&page=1&SLanguage=en-us) may be of some help for some

yeh that's why there's a link to it on the front page of the thread ;)

[Gascogne]

Bios 1707 didn't do anything in the oc appartment for my part, still stuck at 400 fsb.

[Eastcoasthandle]

Does the Jmicron update do anything for anyone?

[DAK1640]

Bios 1707 didn't do anything in the oc appartment for my part, still stuck at 400 fsb.
Take a look...maybe this may help ?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=126620

[S1mon-]

Hello all,

I've o/c my E6600 on my P5W DH Deluxe and I'M wondering if everything seems fine...

My settings are:

vCore: 1,35V
vMCH: 1,55V
vFSB: 1,40V
vDIMM: 2,2V
vICH: 1,05V

PCI Express : 105 Mhz
PCI : 33,33 Mhz

E6600 @ 3,00 Ghz 333 FSB
Mushkin XP2 PC2-6400 4-4-3-10 (1,9 - 2,1V) @ 500 Mhz (PC2-1000) 4-4-3-10 2,2V

Temps:
CPU : Idle ~34-35 Full ~44-45 (Cores : 45-62 Idle-Full)
Mobo : Idle ~34 Full ~40

Everything is stable with Orthos for 10 hours+ dunno if the voltages seems fine I'm scared to push it too more lol

I gotta change my CPU cooler since it's still the stock one...

Any input appreciated :D

Simon

[Brian y.]

Thanks to everybody who contributed to this thread:) The info. is top notch!!!http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6316/4ghzfk5.pngThank You!!!:banana: :banana: :woot: :banana: :banana:

[flashnc]

S1mon...

i think your temps are great for stock air, and feel that giving the cpu more voltage will be ok.

BUT...i would only go to about 1.40-1.425 till you obtain a better HSF.

raise your vmich to 1.65

intels temps are much more tolerable than AMD's.... your good to the 60's temps and many run them even higher than that, though i prefer not to.
im running on water so i run my volts as high as 1.6 testing but use 1.475 24/7 with load temps in the low 50s.

so give it more voltage ( 1.425 )and try the "systool" overclocking utility, watch the temps using "coretemp" which by the way will show a more precise temp than the asus probe.

use the ICS954123 generator in the drop down menu, click find max ...and let it run......

[Timmaah]

Well i ripped those covers off (while everything was still connected to mobo), so wasnt too easy and system temps still seem to be the same, if not higher by 1°C, so i think i may buy one of those nb coolers soon and attach it to the nb.

[FabricioGS]

Thanks OneyedK. I´ll use the 1:1 tip and later will post the results.

Wasn´t able to boot above 390 yet :mad:

No matter what I set (auto, min or max values) on MCH, ICH and FSB I just can´t boot over 390 and that´s freaking me out! :mad:

Tried loading higher vcore but still denied.

[OneyedK]

How did you get 4gb of 512mb xms2-5400UL to fit in your mobo? LOL :eek:

Whoops, sorry, OCZ Platinum Alpha VX2...
Anyway, nb seems to need more voltage to drive 4x1GB than to drive 2*512MB.

Bios was 1707...

[DAK1640]

Wasn´t able to boot above 390 yet :mad:

No matter what I set (auto, min or max values) on MCH, ICH and FSB I just can´t boot over 390 and that´s freaking me out! :mad:

Tried loading higher vcore but still denied.
I am using the latest Intel Chipset...maybe that will help ?

[Gascogne]

Take a look...maybe this may help ?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=126620
Tried everything I could find there but I can't get over 400 fsb no matter what I try it seems. =/

Another problem I have had for a long time now is when I select shutdown in windows my system just reboots and when I select reboot in windows the system doesn't reboot.
Anyone else with same or similiar problem?

[Gascogne]

I am using the latest Intel Chipset...maybe that will help ?
Could you link us to the latest Intel Chipset drivers?

[DAK1640]

Here...
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20061112200624969&board_id=1&model=P5W+DH+Deluxe&page=1&SLanguage=en-us

[FabricioGS]

Here...
http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20061112200624969&board_id=1&model=P5W+DH+Deluxe&page=1&SLanguage=en-us

Thanks, I´ll give it a try.

[S1mon-]

Thanks flashnc :)

[rpr]

Can you just apply/install the new chipset drivers? I read somewhere that you needed to do a clean install???

[Eastcoasthandle]

The problem is that .exe file only works after a fresh install. You have to extract the .exe file or download the zip file then manually update nearly all the device profiles in Device manager in order to do it right.

[Sparx]

OT-
:mad:
I am not getting email notifications again on posts for this thread, anyone else have this issue?

Is it because I have not posted for a day or two?
sparx

[rpr]

Is there risk involved in doing this (installing new chipset drivers without a clean install), or is it just a pain the a**???

[daos]

OT-
:mad:
I am not getting email notifications again on posts for this thread, anyone else have this issue?

Is it because I have not posted for a day or two?
sparx

Im still getting them and I havent posted in a while, besides this message. maybe send a message to the admin.

[1stMIchris]

Well i ripped those covers off (while everything was still connected to mobo), so wasnt too easy and system temps still seem to be the same, if not higher by 1°C, so i think i may buy one of those nb coolers soon and attach it to the nb.
same here i pulled em both off and used AS5 and my mobo temp is still at 51c

[lawrywild]

No point reinstalling intel "drivers" really..

They only enable stuff like usb2.0, they're not real drivers. Windows xp runs fine without them you know..

[bichi]

P5WDH (MCH 1.65 version)- BIOS: 1707 - QX6700 @ 3.0G

- BIOS: 1707 installed
- mild overclock, all is nominal and working fine

[Babsy]

man someone buy my board it's sitting here doing nothing...lol

[1stMIchris]

holy cow man my mobo temps are approaching 53c im seriously getting frustrated w/ this, Should i maybe consider liquid cooling?

[Severance]

holy cow man my mobo temps are approaching 53c im seriously getting frustrated w/ this, Should i maybe consider liquid cooling?

with air cooling on motherbaord i was able to get to 390fsb. With liquid cooling chilled down to about 3c i was not able to go up 1mhz higher ...so dont expect much from liquid cooling this mobo.

[Hajpoj]

Now what about the Zalman 9500 Aircooler? I already have one and don't want it to go to waste. I want to OC to 3.2GHZ with an E6600, will I be fine?


Edit: Also, what's better? 400 x 8 FSB, Or 355.5x9 FSB to reach 3.2GHZ?

Could someone answer this please?

[Babsy]

Could someone answer this please?
i used the zalman 9500 with this board and it was fine
i still use it with my asus striker too with no problems

[Hajpoj]

i used the zalman 9500 with this board and it was fine
i still use it with my asus striker too with no problems


I actually meant the FSB/mult settings more importantly, any Ideas?

[OneyedK]

holy cow man my mobo temps are approaching 53c im seriously getting frustrated w/ this, Should i maybe consider liquid cooling?

Check the stupid southbridge sink, it is so NOT FLAT that it does more harm than good. It took me half a day to lap it...
I use a silent 120mm to blow over it... (MB-temps are measured in or near the southbridge)

[UZ7]

Could someone answer this please?

400x8 is better... making more use of the ram though so you need good/decent ones, I'm currently running on 400x8 and using a CNPS9500... runs cool and fine.

[taemun]

This may seem an odd request, but can anyone see if they can boot at 415fsb?

I'm having some ... odd issues with it ....

t

[Gascogne]

This may seem an odd request, but can anyone see if they can boot at 415fsb?

I'm having some ... odd issues with it ....

t
I can't boot higher than 400fsb.. :stick:

[taemun]

lol thats gotta suck ... nah I can boot perfectly with 414, 416-430+ etc .. but 415 ... well if someone does it :)

t

[monza1412]

lol thats gotta suck ... nah I can boot perfectly with 414, 416-430+ etc .. but 415 ... well if someone does it :)

t


I guess its another bug of this mobo. I asked that problem several post ago, and I have no answer.
I also can´t post at 415.
It doesnt matter to me, Im not even orthos stable at 400

[FabricioGS]

Need some help guys.

No matter what I set on bios for vFSB, vMCH and vICH (all at minimum, all at maximum, all combinations or all at auto): every time I up fsb I have to up vcore and vdimm at the same propostion or it even post on bios;

No matter what I set on bios for vFSB, vMCH and vICH (all at minimum, all at maximum, all combinations or all at auto): my fsb wall is still the same 390 and it even post on bios above this (no matter the multi, 7x, 8x, 9x...);

Did a quick test with vdrop to check if my processor needs a lot of vcore but I was able to reach the minimum Asus alows me: 1,2250v (2,4GHz, 266x9). And it´s 100% stable with this vcore.

http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/9553/conroe2404ghzlt8.th.png (http://img469.imageshack.us/my.php?image=conroe2404ghzlt8.png)

On time: I always let CPU Thermal Control Enabled even with the low temps I get.

Stable results per clock with respective vcores*:

2.40GHz (266x9) -> 1,2250v
3.00GHz (334x9) -> 1,3625v
3.10GHz (345x9) -> 1,4125v
3.20GHz (356x9) -> 1,4750v :eek:
3.40GHz (378x9) -> 1,5125v :eek: :explode2:

Me -> really frustrated and confused :brick: :dammit:

[lawrywild]

That's because you have a week 23, your results look the same as my week 24... except I need more volts to reach 3.4ghz than you

[syne_24]

older weeks used a lot of vcore. My week 24 needed 1.575v set in bios to run 3.6

[taemun]

I had a week 26 that performed similar to that ... cept it literally required 1.6V for 3.4GHz .. needless to say, its moved on to greener pastures now.

What I've been getting with 415FSB:
73MHz x9 = CPU clock or 657MHz.
http://picasaweb.google.com/taemun/ConroeWTF/photo#5009488193663234978
Also seen 666MHz and 675MHz (didn't get camera out, this was previously)
It won't boot into Windows. Windows logo screen comes up, and thats it. Lock.

WTF @ 415 FSB = 73~75MHz CPU clock?!

t

[FabricioGS]

Thanks folks. I thought I was the only one with that problem but, you guys with older weeks have fsb wall at ?

[WeldZilla]

I am going to load it up and see just what it will or won't do for me.

http://rapidshare.com/files/7657312/P5WDH1707.zip



WZ

[Timmaah]

Thanks folks. I thought I was the only one with that problem but, you guys with older weeks have fsb wall at ?


week 24, fsb wall at 393 with vcore of 1.52v iirc

[Rob Halford]

Not possible to set multiplier above 10 with QX6700 in this BIOS. Back to 1506... :slapass:

[WeldZilla]

I have been running this all day. Right out of the gate I booted up at 427fsb with my memory set on the 1:1 and my timings 3-3-3-4. I have been rendering video most of the day while we were out cutting down our Christmas tree. Got home just in time for the video to finish up. I have never ran this fast for this long with these settings with any other Bios. 1305 was good but this is a first!! It has now been over 4 hours and it is all good. It is still early but, I am very impressed so far with all this new found stability.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/cpuzfun.jpg
I run this speed and higher quite often but, never this stable or for this long.Maybe at long last asus is getting a handle on this Deluxe? board.
As you can see in the post just prior to mine. But I am running a Conroe not a Kentsfield and for me the 1506 was pure garbage.
Your results may vary.
WZ

[Severance]

Just a small note fellas. I just tried a lap job on the southbridge. Motherbaord temps have dropped 10 degrees if u guys wanna give it a try, it seems to help.

[junkun13]

I have been running this all day. Right out of the gate I booted up at 427fsb with my memory set on the 1:1 and my timings 3-3-3-4. I have been rendering video most of the day while we were out cutting down our Christmas tree. Got home just in time for the video to finish up. I have never ran this fast for this long with these settings with any other Bios. 1305 was good but this is a first!! It has now been over 4 hours and it is all good. It is still early but, I am very impressed so far with all this new found stability.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/cpuzfun.jpg
I run this speed and higher quite often but, never this stable or for this long.Maybe at long last asus is getting a handle on this Deluxe? board.
As you can see in the post just prior to mine. But I am running a Conroe not a Kentsfield and for me the 1506 was pure garbage.
Your results may vary.
WZ

what is your settings in the bios? :)

[Eastcoasthandle]

Just a small note fellas. I just tried a lap job on the southbridge. Motherbaord temps have dropped 10 degrees if u guys wanna give it a try, it seems to help.
What did you lap the HS or the chip?

[Eastcoasthandle]

I have been running this all day. Right out of the gate I booted up at 427fsb with my memory set on the 1:1 and my timings 3-3-3-4. I have been rendering video most of the day while we were out cutting down our Christmas tree. Got home just in time for the video to finish up. I have never ran this fast for this long with these settings with any other Bios. 1305 was good but this is a first!! It has now been over 4 hours and it is all good. It is still early but, I am very impressed so far with all this new found stability.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/cpuzfun.jpg
I run this speed and higher quite often but, never this stable or for this long.Maybe at long last asus is getting a handle on this Deluxe? board.
As you can see in the post just prior to mine. But I am running a Conroe not a Kentsfield and for me the 1506 was pure garbage.
Your results may vary.
WZ

I must have missed it are you running 1305 bios version?

[Burner27]

Does the Jmicron update do anything for anyone?


YES!!!! It fixed the stuttering/sluggish computer response while transferring files to any hard drive connected to the internal or external SATA connectors.

[WeldZilla]

No I am running the 1707 bios. This has been the first good update since the 1305.

[Flash2k6]

I've read as much as I possibly can and tried just about every suggestion listed here.

My scenario is I have slow posting problems. The system isn't overclocked at all, and most of the settings are left at default or auto, or disabled.

Bios 1602

Raid0 2 drives, I've tried every single combonation of putting them on different sata ports, no change. I use a USB Keyboard (G15) and a USB Mouse (Microsoft laser), and my Dell 2405FPW is connected via USB as well for the card reader.

I've disabled all the Q-Fan stuff in the bios, disabled the 1394, disabled the Jmicron, and just about anything else that isn't used, and same results.

It posts super slow .. it sits at the Initializing USB blah blah ... and just sits ... then finally it displays the memory and poof from then on it's lightning fast, just a slow post. Once it gets past that, the machine flys, no crashes, no instability, nothing .. just takes forever to post.

Anyone have any additional ideas? I can't think of anything else to try.

EDIT
EDIT
EDIT: I fixed it ... it was the Card Reader on the Dell monitor. If I unplug that from the USB, it posts super fast. Stupid as hell, but whatever.. at least I know what it is now.


-F

[brock01]

i have heard that the ich7r is faster than ez-backup in raid 0?
can anyone show me some benchmarks, or tell me your personal opinion/experience
i have it in raid 0 now, with the ez-backup, wanting to know if it would be better to put it on the intel one or anything?

[dustybyrd]

i have heard that the ich7r is faster than ez-backup in raid 0?
can anyone show me some benchmarks, or tell me your personal opinion/experience
i have it in raid 0 now, with the ez-backup, wanting to know if it would be better to put it on the intel one or anything?


yes, unfortunately i can confirm this...

i had two raptors that i put on the ez-backup....and i noticed my HD Tach hard drive benchmarks were slower than some other machines with the same raptor...

then i plugged one of the raptors in the intel SATA port and it benched normally...

here was the difference:

~70mb/s average
~79mb/s average

pretty big difference

[brock01]

do you think it would make a diff if i put these ( http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=101220-12 )
in the intel port instead of ez-backup, i have them in raid 0
i get about 89-90avg in HD Tach

[dustybyrd]

I have been running this all day. Right out of the gate I booted up at 427fsb with my memory set on the 1:1 and my timings 3-3-3-4. I have been rendering video most of the day while we were out cutting down our Christmas tree. Got home just in time for the video to finish up. I have never ran this fast for this long with these settings with any other Bios. 1305 was good but this is a first!! It has now been over 4 hours and it is all good. It is still early but, I am very impressed so far with all this new found stability.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/cpuzfun.jpg
I run this speed and higher quite often but, never this stable or for this long.Maybe at long last asus is getting a handle on this Deluxe? board.
As you can see in the post just prior to mine. But I am running a Conroe not a Kentsfield and for me the 1506 was pure garbage.
Your results may vary.
WZ


what do you think is the difference in bios 1707 that helps your stability?

are there any differences you can see in the menus?

does is set tRFC to a different value so you can boot with higher fsb?


i have used 1305, 14something and 1602 and i still haven't seen any difference in the tRFC default TIGHT setting, that prohibits me from booting at >394mhz fsb (memory 1:1), however, once in windows i can use memset to set tRFC to 42, allowing fully STABLE operation (prime95 with large and small ffts) up to 417mhz so far with this chip and memory...see my sig

and if i don't use memset to set tRFC to 42, increasing the fsb in windows causes instability and crashes

[dustybyrd]

here is my sig...as it didn't show up before

and by the way, thank you all in this thread who helped me fix this tRFC issue, allowing me to exceed 378x9, all the way to 400x9 stable!

[WeldZilla]

Sorry I am not sure yet what is up with this new bios. Along with Christmas tree hunting it is also my 28th wedding anniversay today so I have been unavoidably detaned....... I did do a quick 1M super pi thisevening just to see if it would run it at this speed. then I went back to being the dutiful husband.
Hey gotta go get ................
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/1707pi.jpg

[dustybyrd]

do you think it would make a diff if i put these ( http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=101220-12 )
in the intel port instead of ez-backup, i have them in raid 0
i get about 89-90avg in HD Tach


funny you should mention them....i have the 320gb version of these drives (2 of them, BUT NOT IN RAID) and I DID try them in the intel and the ezraid sata ports and compare HD tach benchies...

i think i found that the read burst max throughput of the 320 was much less (like 90mb/s versus 165mb/s), but the average was actually about the same...53.5 vs. 55 mb/s (not as much difference)

so i suspect your 250 wd-ks's would have similar results as my 320 wd-ks's...although i don't know what the RAID performance is in each set of ports...you should be able to switch them and try, no?

but, there is no doubt that the raptor's average throughput was severely impacted by the ezraid port (as a single boot drive...even with no raid setup)

[NghtShd]

i have heard that the ich7r is faster than ez-backup in raid 0?
can anyone show me some benchmarks, or tell me your personal opinion/experience
i have it in raid 0 now, with the ez-backup, wanting to know if it would be better to put it on the intel one or anything?

The EZ-Backup ports are on a port multiplier. They come off what would be SATA 2, so they share SATA 2's maximum theoretical 300MB/s. It is also my understanding that NCQ doesn't work on the EZ ports. I haven't used the EZ ports myself, but I have read reports from others that in real-world use they are substantially slower.

IMO, wasting SATA 2 for the EZ-Backup ports was a design mistake.

[Pol1977]

I am using the EZ ports for a raid 0 configuration with 2 WDa 160GB and I am very happy. I haven't done any benchmark speed comparisons so I can't give you numbers and I'm not about to reformat my system so I can put them on the ICH7R just to compare.

I have been using RAID 0 for some years now and it is the most usable configuration I've had to date. No drivers needed for DOS / windows setup / ghost / etc...

Most importantly, there are known issues with users running Adobe programs, such as Photoshop and Acrobat Professional because of the protection scheme the company uses. If you have your windoews installed on a raid array based on ICH7R (or ICH6R, ICH5R, ICH8R for that matter) these programs keep wanting to reactivate almost every time you run them. This is because they use sector 32 of the hard disk which is normaly not used for anything, to write activation data. With ICHxR raid, for some reason, they seem to think something fishy is going on and demand re-activation. Not so with the EZ Raid. Very usable!

There's no point comparing single drive speeds, it is obvious that a single drive will function faster on the ICH7R because the data only has to go through ICH7R while on the EZ Raid it has to go through the EZ Raid chip and then through the ICH7R. Comparissons have meaning only for raid arrays.

As for the 2 disks on one SATA2 port issue, I wish there were any 2 sata disks with >300MB/sec combined throughput so they could be impeded by this design.

Bottom line, there are always bound to be differences from one controller to the other and for different HDDs. Just because one test (or even all of them) were slower on one controller it doen's make it a crappy one. There are always other things that should be taken into account besides speed.

[lawrywild]

I am using the EZ ports for a raid 0 configuration with 2 WDa 160GB and I am very happy. I haven't done any benchmark speed comparisons so I can't give you numbers and I'm not about to reformat my system so I can put them on the ICH7R just to compare.

I have been using RAID 0 for some years now and it is the most usable configuration I've had to date. No drivers needed for DOS / windows setup / ghost / etc...

Most importantly, there are known issues with users running Adobe programs, such as Photoshop and Acrobat Professional because of the protection scheme the company uses. If you have your windoews installed on a raid array based on ICH7R (or ICH6R, ICH5R, ICH8R for that matter) these programs keep wanting to reactivate almost every time you run them. This is because they use sector 32 of the hard disk which is normaly not used for anything, to write activation data. With ICHxR raid, for some reason, they seem to think something fishy is going on and demand re-activation. Not so with the EZ Raid. Very usable!

There's no point comparing single drive speeds, it is obvious that a single drive will function faster on the ICH7R because the data only has to go through ICH7R while on the EZ Raid it has to go through the EZ Raid chip and then through the ICH7R. Comparissons have meaning only for raid arrays.

As for the 2 disks on one SATA2 port issue, I wish there were any 2 sata disks with >300MB/sec combined throughput so they could be impeded by this design.

Bottom line, there are always bound to be differences from one controller to the other and for different HDDs. Just because one test (or even all of them) were slower on one controller it doen's make it a crappy one. There are always other things that should be taken into account besides speed.

Photoshop/Imageready fine here on ICH7R Raid ;)

[martin_ezz]

is it possible to boot from usb pendrive in 1707?

thanks in advance.

[Gascogne]

Im wondering is there anyone who is running 400+ fsb on air? It seems most people are using water who are able to run 400+ fsb or am I wrong?

[pancito]

I can confirm i have the same bug as you.

414x8= 3,312 Mhz
415x8= 6xx Mhz (Six Hundred!!!):slap: :stick: :slapass: :fact:
416x8= 3,328 Mhz

Nothing else changes on BIOS.

Please can someone else confirms this?

I'm on 1503 Bios.

[The Mutt]

I was running 9x400 on air stable and even higher for benching but now I´m on Vapochill LS an 9x435 stable :D .

BTW! 1707 lets me set memtimings manually again! I have not been able to do that since 1305 but dividers still don´t work :( It would be great to use my PC8500 mem to the max....

[Pluppo]

I have a serious problem with this board now. I can't get it to post any more, there's no beeps, all fans are spinning. I'll try to give a small history of what I've done with the board since I got it, and I hope someone can give me some advice to get it working again.

- When I first got the board, I used the stock intel heatsink as well as a Asus EAX1900XT card.

- I changed the stock heatsink for a Thermaltake Big Typhoon, and was very happy with the results.

- I bought a Powercolor X1950 crossfire edition to run crossfire. I started getting lots of problems here, I would get reboots, and the system would not run properly with two cards. With one of the two cards in, there where no problems.

- I installed a Thermalright HR-5 northbridge chipset heatsink. I had to cut off the heatpipe that was attatched to the original heatsink, and I used the Asus clip from the original heatsink. This was a very tight fit, but it did fit. After doing this, crossfire was working great. No more reboots.

- I replaced the Big Typhoon with a Thermalright Ultra-120, and fitted a fan on it. I wanted the Ultra-120 to point towards the fan at the back of the case, and this made it an even tighter fit with the HR-5. At first, I couldn't post, but I wiggled the HR-5 a bit a couple of times, and then I was able to post and everything was fine.

- But after a couple of days, I started getting some weird problems with my PS2 mouse. The mouse would freeze for a few seconds, or sometimes it would jump around all over the screen clicking by itself.

- I tought this might have something to do with the northbridge, so I took everything apart, cleaned off the old thermal paste, and replaced it with some fresh artic silver 5.

- After putting everything back together, the board wouldn't post. I wiggled the HR-5 around in different positions, as this had fixed the same problem before, but this didn't help this time. I tried removing and replacing thermal paste several times, but it didn't help.

That's about it. I'm starting to think I've screwed up the board somehow. If anyone has some advice to give me that would be great. Otherwise I think I'll just have to buy a new board :(

[lawrywild]

is it possible to boot from usb pendrive in 1707?

thanks in advance.

You can boot from pendrive in all bioses :confused:

[Luis_GT]

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=147750

I'm able to boot up @ 435x9 but windows crashes since this is a higly unstable Oc... I have all my volts maxed out... Anyone willing to send me a better clocking E6600 for free :p:


http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b29/Luis_GT/th_Cpuz.jpg (http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b29/Luis_GT/Cpuz.jpg)

[lawrywild]

I have a serious problem with this board now. I can't get it to post any more, there's no beeps, all fans are spinning. I'll try to give a small history of what I've done with the board since I got it, and I hope someone can give me some advice to get it working again.

- When I first got the board, I used the stock intel heatsink as well as a Asus EAX1900XT card.

- I changed the stock heatsink for a Thermaltake Big Typhoon, and was very happy with the results.

- I bought a Powercolor X1950 crossfire edition to run crossfire. I started getting lots of problems here, I would get reboots, and the system would not run properly with two cards. With one of the two cards in, there where no problems.

- I installed a Thermalright HR-5 northbridge chipset heatsink. I had to cut off the heatpipe that was attatched to the original heatsink, and I used the Asus clip from the original heatsink. This was a very tight fit, but it did fit. After doing this, crossfire was working great. No more reboots.

- I replaced the Big Typhoon with a Thermalright Ultra-120, and fitted a fan on it. I wanted the Ultra-120 to point towards the fan at the back of the case, and this made it an even tighter fit with the HR-5. At first, I couldn't post, but I wiggled the HR-5 a bit a couple of times, and then I was able to post and everything was fine.

- But after a couple of days, I started getting some weird problems with my PS2 mouse. The mouse would freeze for a few seconds, or sometimes it would jump around all over the screen clicking by itself.

- I tought this might have something to do with the northbridge, so I took everything apart, cleaned off the old thermal paste, and replaced it with some fresh artic silver 5.

- After putting everything back together, the board wouldn't post. I wiggled the HR-5 around in different positions, as this had fixed the same problem before, but this didn't help this time. I tried removing and replacing thermal paste several times, but it didn't help.

That's about it. I'm starting to think I've screwed up the board somehow. If anyone has some advice to give me that would be great. Otherwise I think I'll just have to buy a new board :(

You need to wiggle around your nb cooler to get it to post? and you still continued to use it?? :slap: IMO that's a little bit stupid...

[NghtShd]

Most importantly, there are known issues with users running Adobe programs, such as Photoshop and Acrobat Professional because of the protection scheme the company uses. If you have your windoews installed on a raid array based on ICH7R (or ICH6R, ICH5R, ICH8R for that matter) these programs keep wanting to reactivate almost every time you run them. This is because they use sector 32 of the hard disk which is normaly not used for anything, to write activation data. With ICHxR raid, for some reason, they seem to think something fishy is going on and demand re-activation. Not so with the EZ Raid. Very usable!


I did have my Adobe apps request reactivation once when I changed something (can't remember what it was now--maybe a driver update), but after reactivating it hasn't happened again.

[Luis_GT]

Well this sucks... the moment I place my Ram @ 900mhz it won't post

but I can post @ 450FSB with the Ram @ 4:3

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=147761

Asus has gotta give us more Ram Options since my Ram is capable of 1100+ on the Asus P5B and 1200+ with the BFG 680i

[pancito]

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=147750

I'm able to boot up @ 435x9 but windows crashes since this is a higly unstable Oc... I have all my volts maxed out... Anyone willing to send me a better clocking E6600 for free :p:



I Dont think is you CPU that is holding you back, you have reached the limits of your board.

[Luis_GT]

Its the CPU... I can't even get it stable @ 3.6 with 1.55v and I can boot my board all the way to 450... and this is the only board that has been able to keep my CPU @ 3.8+ for benchmarks...

[rastaseb]

I was running 9x400 on air stable and even higher for benching but now I´m on Vapochill LS an 9x435 stable :D .

BTW! 1707 lets me set memtimings manually again! I have not been able to do that since 1305 but dividers still don´t work :( It would be great to use my PC8500 mem to the max....


Is it now possible to set all mem timings direct in the bios with the 1707?

[infrared]

Has Asus attempted to unlock the multiplier? I just flashed to the 1705 bios, and under cpu configuration i found this: "cpu multiplier status, unlocked. Maximum 20, minimum 6" or something along those lines.

Problem is it doesn't work. I tried 9x on my e6400 =/

[Timmaah]

it only shows 6 to 20 first time you boot with a new bios, second time it will show you the proper multipliers you can use. AFAIK the allendales have locked multipliers.

[infrared]

Ok, thanks Timmaah. I was so excited when i saw it though :p

[TrancëJay]

Im wondering is there anyone who is running 400+ fsb on air? It seems most people are using water who are able to run 400+ fsb or am I wrong?
http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/7682/untitledow1.png
VCore: default
FSB Termination: default
vMHC: 1,85v :slobber:
VDimm:2,05v

using everyday, with this cooler:
http://www.verycom.com.br/produtos/proddetail.aspx?id=P775-05C922H3

[infrared]

My board did 445mhz fsb when i first got it, and mine's the 1.65v MCH version. Are the newer boards less overclockable?

[lawrywild]

Im wondering is there anyone who is running 400+ fsb on air? It seems most people are using water who are able to run 400+ fsb or am I wrong?

hehe

Stock vmch, fanless nb cooler, boot from bios...

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/3866/320024hourszl5.png

:cool:

[Luis_GT]

I can boot @ 450 no problem and mine is the 1.85vMCH version.

[brock01]

do you guys think its worth using intel's ports instead of the ez-backup for raid0
im using the ez-right now with these drives http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=101220-12

[lawrywild]

Yes, intel ich7r raid is quite a bit faster

[brock01]

so i must reinstall windows right? and use f6 for the drivers
and make sure to get the latest drivers from intel?
if i have gathered all my info correct, that about right?
should i go head and try x64?

[factory81]

Quick specs: P5W DH w/ scythe ninja cooler / swiftech 40mm copper northbridge fan / 8800gts / 2 x 1024mb 4-4-4-10 team xtreme micron d9's / silverstone st60f whatever the modular PSU is, antec p180. Things are running chill.

I have been following the P5W DH overclocking guide you guys have laid out.

My personal problem is

A) When I overclock too high with the memory (If I don't set it to auto...and take it usually past 900) with my memory timing on 4-4-4-10.....I reboot in to a black screen.

B) When I set the memory to auto, keep the timings @ 4-4-4-10...I can overclock to 3324mhz, 9 x 369.......things work well, BUT IF I put my ATI HDTV Wonder in the 2nd pci slot from the bottom......I have the rebooting black screen error quite often. To the point where I just took the card out.

Right now I am able to do any prime95 test with 2 instances @ 9 x 369, auto memory, 4-4-4-10, everything disabled like you guys run it. Is this about max for E6600's on air here? 3.3-3.6ghz range? ALSO If I bump the voltage on the CPU up to say 1.45 to 1.5 my voltage in cpu-z gets moving around.

The memory does run in auto mode at like PC-4300 or something unimpressive. If I set the memory to....what ever makes it appear as PC-7100 / PC-8500.....the reboot to black screen.

[Gascogne]

It's so annoying not being able to go over 400fsb, I got the 1.65 mch version and I guess it is harder to overclock with 4x1Gb ram as well. =/

[Clump]

so i must reinstall windows right? and use f6 for the drivers
and make sure to get the latest drivers from intel?
if i have gathered all my info correct, that about right?
should i go head and try x64?

Can't speak to x64, sorry.

From what I've found you will have to do a reinstall with F6 drivers. I'm running RAID0 on the EZ ports and have been completely unsuccessful in moving the array to ICH7. I have another drive that I ghosted the array to and Windows will boot from it as long as I leave my array connected to the EZ ports. Once the array is removed Windows hangs on start and will not even enter safe mode. This is with booting the 3rd drive from any of the ICH7 ports, or the JMicron, or either EZ port.

I've scoured the net looking for a way to do this without a reinstall, but no luck so far. If anyone has accomplished this it would be great if you would share!

[Pluppo]

You need to wiggle around your nb cooler to get it to post? and you still continued to use it?? :slap: IMO that's a little bit stupid...

Ok, I admit it was a little bit stupid, but at least it did work for a while...

Anyways I changed the NB heatsink to a Swiftech MCX159, and now everything works again!

[Shpoon]

Here's a Fix:

•3 IDE Channels when using an e-SATA HD, the HD seems to be malfunctioning (slow transfer, PIO mode, etc.)

Fix:

Install BIOS 1707 (from Asus ftp), and download the Jmicron drivers (they say raid but they do general SATA as well). The HD is now listed as a SCSI, and seems to work fine...I need to defrag to see if I still get the "delayed write error".

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20061112200624969&board_id=1&model=P5W+DH+Deluxe&page=1&SLanguage=en-us

Scroll down to the Jmicron drivers.

[brock01]

question for ya guys
alright, I have 6hds in my comp
2 are in ide, and the other 4 are sata.
i have 2 drives i would like to put in RAID0 with the ICH7R.
how can i hook up the other 2 sata drives and have them still functional.
right now i have the 2 drives with the EZ-Backup in RAID0, but what them with ICH7R. i boot off them, the other 2 sata non raid drives are for storage, as well as the ide drives.
Thanks in advance

[irfs]

Im wondering is there anyone who is running 400+ fsb on air? It seems most people are using water who are able to run 400+ fsb or am I wrong?

411X9 24/7 air cooled by Arctic freezer pro (1.47v actual)

[BenchZowner]

Once upon a time...AsusTek Corp decided to hire some BIOS Engineers.
Yes, it was a rainy day... now guess what happened.........

Lets play Simon says:
Simon says "Say Asus sucks"
Simon says "Say Asus did it again"
Simon says "Ban the noobs!"

Ok, enough with the entertainment part of this post, lets get into the...juice :D

BIOS 1707 changed nothing actually ( overclocking-wise ), and ofcourse there are no new memory timings in the BIOS ( don't ask silly questions :p: )...and ofcourse...Asus says "there's no Core 2 Extreme processor".
Thus... you got a X6800 and the available CPU Ratios/Multipliers are... 6-7-8-9-10-11

Thank you for your interest in Asus products.

Asus, Keep Walking...

[mikepaul]

Has anyone found a QUICK way to get this motherboard to work again when it decides not to initialize the USB ports? I'm up to BIOS 1602 with no sign of any fix there.

I ended up pulling the plug and letting it sit for hours today, when after quite a long stretch of booting properly it decided to play dead after a reboot.

No sign of what 'overheated', or whatever causes the problem...

[devilhood]

It's so annoying not being able to go over 400fsb, I got the 1.65 mch version and I guess it is harder to overclock with 4x1Gb ram as well. =/

I have the same problem with my P5W64-WS Pro.
4 slots occupied seems to make it difficult for me to retain a 1:1 with my DDR2-900 running at 450 FSB.

[nickfd]

Hi all,

I've gone through the last 25 pages of the thread as well as many other resources on other websites, and out of them all, everyone here seems to have the best knowledge regarding the tweaks required to push the c2d + asus p5w dh motherboard with watercooling to its limits.

Currently, my setup is this:

Intel Core 2 Duo e6600 4mb cache 2.40ghz
Antec Nine Hundred Case
PNY GeForce 8800 GTX 768mb
Asus P5W Deluxe DH Deluxe
2xCORSAIR XMS2 1GB DDR2 1066mhz (PC2 8500)
OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI
GIGABYTE GH-WIU02 120mm Blue LED Light 3D Galaxy I (Watercooler)

I don't have CPU week and motherboard spec information handy, so that'll come in a later post when I have some time to work with my rig, but from what I remember:

mb bios 1506
1:1 FSB:MEM doing 386*9 = ~3474mhz
vDimm at 2.20v 5-5-5-15 (rated)
vMCH at 1.55v
vCore at 1.5625v

Because my room is quite warm, even with 2x120mm fans in the front as intake, 1x120mm fan on the side as intake, the 120mm fan on the radiator acting as exhaust (on the top rear of my box), and 1x200mm fan at the top of the case as exhaust as well, my temperatures could be a bit better. Or maybe it's my CPU week, seeing as from what I'm reading, a lot of the earlier weeks required a lot more voltage to hit higher fsb's.

Using TAT, my cores idle at around 48c and on dual prime95s and full load, it's ~65c.

From what I gathered in my reading for me to be able to get a higher FSB, which I really can't do at the moment, I need to raise my vMCH to 1.65v or higher. I want to add another waterblock to my piping to cool the northbridge and would like some advice on what would be best.

The current PVC tubing is 1/2", and I've seen the Danger Den Maze4 Chipset Waterblock (Intel 975X) (http://www.petrastechshop.com/dadenmachwa9.html) as well as some of the offerings from newegg that seem kind of generic. I don't mind whether the block inlets would be 1/4" or 1/2", but I'd like to get something that would fit well without much re-engineering if possible.

I also have not yet relaxed my tRFC timings, but I will do that as well over the weekend. I'd just really like to get over a 400 fsb with 9x multiplier if possible. This is a new rig, and I haven't tested how high I could go with an 8x multiplier, but I want to exhaust my 9x options first.

Here's a photo of the setup prior to my filling it with water and relocating the reservoir/pump to the bottom, next to the powersupply:
http://pics.raverdude.org/pictures/electronics/2006-Core2Duo/_res/res_DSCF0206.JPG

Thanks and looking forward to all your guys input!

edit: spelling/grammer
edit: added photo

[Gascogne]

Haven't you placed the ram little wrong? Shouldn't it be on black -> black or orange -> orange and not mix the colors on the slots.

[brock01]

thats what i thought as well Gascogne

[Omarko]

nickfd - as the guys said, your RAM is not installed correctly ...

also, I am not surprised about your TEMPs as you are using the crappy Gigabyte Kit which in most cases gives you only slightly better temps than high end air cooling ... I would certainly NOT consider adding another block to the loop. That RADiator is not able to handle more heat ... I had 2 of these kits ... trust me ...

if you wanna be serious about overclocking and watercooling, go with a kit like Swiftech Apex Ultra plus ...

[pancito]

nickfd, why would you need 1.5xxx VCore??? that is way up there.

im currently at 1.4 at 400x9 wich is fine by me.

Trying getting everything at stock 266mhz fsb with stock volts.

Jump to 333x9 you should be able to hit that speed with stock volts. jump 5 or 10 mhz at a time with stock volts. When it starts to act up. add .05 volts and keep upping FSB.

I Did around 350-355 with stock voltage, wich is plenty.

[lawrywild]

His ram is installed fine...

Dual Channel works fine in Black+Black/Orange+Orange OR Black+Orange/Orange+Black

[lawrywild]

nickfd, why would you need 1.5xxx VCore??? that is way up there.

im currently at 1.4 at 400x9 wich is fine by me.

and?... thanks.. for that... :rolleyes:

Not all cpus clock the same... mine needs more than 1.56v in bios to reach 3.47 stable so looks normal to me

[kevsta112003]

So far, whats the best bios to get FSB past 400? I bought my board in august, currently I'm doing 400Mhzx8 (3.2Ghz) on my week 24A e6400. This is with bios 1305, I haven't tested how far past 400Mhz I can push it on this bios. I want to update the bios to solve cold boot problem.

[scaramonga]

His ram is installed fine...

Dual Channel works fine in Black+Black/Orange+Orange OR Black+Orange/Orange+Black

I disagree!

Colour coordinated slots only unless ALL filled!

So 2 orange or 2 black if 2 sticks........Manual states this quite clearly.......:)

Otherwise.......why not colour them all the same? :rolleyes:

[pancito]

and?... thanks.. for that... :rolleyes:

Not all cpus clock the same... mine needs more than 1.56v in bios to reach 3.47 stable so looks normal to me

That is a lot IMO, I used to have a e6400 that needed around 1.55 for for 3.4.

Im new to e6600's so I do guess not all cpu's are made equal.

[Severance]

I have been here from the very start with all u guys trying to figure this mobo out. Well i have gave up and got myself an p5b deluxe. I couldent get my corsair 8500c5 ram to run over 960mhz with the p5dh. With this p5b i am now running 500fsb ram is at 1200mhz 5 5 5 15 timings by spd and is stable. If i were u guys i would do the same as i did and forget about this nightmare board. Good luck all.

[Tallman]

I disagree!

Colour coordinated slots only unless ALL filled!

So 2 orange or 2 black if 2 sticks........Manual states this quite clearly.......:)

Otherwise.......why not colour them all the same? :rolleyes:


You are correct in the fact that it is stated this way in the manual.
However, it has been done the other way ( mixing black/orange ) by a few others in these forums that I have seen, and working in dual channel mode.
I believe it was Andre Yang that said he had better stablility with this setup.
( Please correct me if this is wrong )

[lawrywild]

I disagree!

Colour coordinated slots only unless ALL filled!

So 2 orange or 2 black if 2 sticks........Manual states this quite clearly.......:)

Otherwise.......why not colour them all the same? :rolleyes:

So what? It works perfectly the way he has them :rolleyes:

[nickfd]

So what? It works perfectly the way he has them :rolleyes:

Just to clarify, I have 2x1gb sticks of black corsair 8500c5 5-5-5-15 mem, and I suppose I am mixing the slots after all.

Since I already spent the cash on the gigabyte watercooler, I dont really want to replace the reservoir and radiator. I did see some additional pumps you could put in-line to increase the waterflow psi if that becomes an issue, so I'm not too worried about that.

Also, I was thinking more about it last night, and believe that doing a 1/4" inlet/outlet block to put on the northbridge would be the best way, since the majority of the water would go to where its needed most, the cpu, rather than the northbridge.

Thanks for all the great information and I'll continue watching the thread and provide an update when i loosen the memory timings.

You guys are great!

edit: fixed specifications
plan for the weekend: I'll try moving the ram to the same colour spots on the motherboard, since the ram is rated ddr2 and it only shows up Single-Channel in CPU-Z. Maybe this'll fix it?

[nickfd]

nickfd, why would you need 1.5xxx VCore??? that is way up there.

im currently at 1.4 at 400x9 wich is fine by me.

Trying getting everything at stock 266mhz fsb with stock volts.

Jump to 333x9 you should be able to hit that speed with stock volts. jump 5 or 10 mhz at a time with stock volts. When it starts to act up. add .05 volts and keep upping FSB.

I Did around 350-355 with stock voltage, wich is plenty.

pancito - From what I've read in the thread, the earlier chips require quite a bit more voltage and, in turn, run a bit hotter when overclocking. I'll be able to get my cpu-z and all the specifics on my setup tonight, so we'll find out what week and revision my cpu actually is.

Thanks for the insight!

[monza1412]

pancito - From what I've read in the thread, the earlier chips require quite a bit more voltage and, in turn, run a bit hotter when overclocking. I'll be able to get my cpu-z and all the specifics on my setup tonight, so we'll find out what week and revision my cpu actually is.

Thanks for the insight!



Cpu-z will not show you information about your week / batch, it will only show you the cpu revision.

[nickfd]

Cpu-z will not show you information about your week / batch, it will only show you the cpu revision.

My apologies, you're right. Isn't the revision A vs B the determining factor on which chips can go higher on a lower voltage?

[pancito]

If you have your box it says something like L629Bxxx in my case i know it's a B chip from week 29?!?

Currently i'm at 3.8 (422x9) with 1.55 vcore i'm running orthos as we speek and after 20 mins everything looks fine. :banana:

Chipset heat was my main problem, if you can cool your chipset good IMO you can get higher clocks.

Im hitting a wall at 1.75 NB Volts. 1.85 just doesn't boot at all.

[harvshark]

I have been here from the very start with all u guys trying to figure this mobo out. Well i have gave up and got myself an p5b deluxe. I couldent get my corsair 8500c5 ram to run over 960mhz with the p5dh. With this p5b i am now running 500fsb ram is at 1200mhz 5 5 5 15 timings by spd and is stable. If i were u guys i would do the same as i did and forget about this nightmare board. Good luck all.

I am having RAM speed problems with the P5W as well. Upgraded the RAM in my quad P5B rig, and took the OCZ that I was running stable at 1020mhz 4-4-4-10 timings, put it in my X6800 P5W rig, and it won't even post at 1003mhz with 5-5-5-12 timings. Both at 2.35v.
Anybody have any ideas? Is Asus ever gonna update the bios to allow access to the subtimings, or is that not possible on this chipset? Running 1707 at present.

[nickfd]

If you have your box it says something like L629Bxxx in my case i know it's a B chip from week 29?!?

Currently i'm at 3.8 (422x9) with 1.55 vcore i'm running orthos as we speek and after 20 mins everything looks fine. :banana:

Chipset heat was my main problem, if you can cool your chipset good IMO you can get higher clocks.

Im hitting a wall at 1.75 NB Volts. 1.85 just doesn't boot at all.

I'll dig up the box tonight and post specs, thanks.

Regarding the NB issue, that's the reason why I posted in the first place.. I wanted to see if anyone had good fitting recommendations for (preferrably 1/4" inlet/outlet) waterblock coolers for our northbridge chipset. :)

[Gascogne]

Anyone else with reboot/shutdown problems?

When I select shutdown in windows the motherboard restarts and when I select reboot in windows it won't reboot.

[Thasp]

I disagree!

Colour coordinated slots only unless ALL filled!

So 2 orange or 2 black if 2 sticks........Manual states this quite clearly.......:)

Otherwise.......why not colour them all the same? :rolleyes:

I tried both. The board is weak either way for two sticks - I can do DDR1000 4-4-4-12 at FSB 333, but DDR 677 at FSB 450. It's so useless with two sticks, even with high FSB/vdimm voltages, even with all sorts of memset combinations. With one stick, all sorts of things work that don't work with two sticks. It's a chipset limitation, I believe.

I can't wait for the DFI RD600. This board is selling, ASUS has no reason to add subtimings to the BIOS. iAudio has no need to add ID3 tag browsing to the X5, Rio has no need to add UMS support to the Karma. It's not fun to think about, but when you buy something, if it sells well, the upgrade in firmware/BIOS/drivers aren't getting huge features, just small bugfixes.

[kevsta112003]

When do I need to worry about a HSF for my north bridge? At what Vmch?

Im currently 420x8 with 1.31Vcore, and 1.5Vmch.

I'm hoping to reach 437Mhz, which would require about 1.6Vmch. Would a 40mm fan suffice in cooling the NB heatsink with 1.6vmch?

Thanks

[DoNoT.O.C]

Hey guys,

I have BIOS version 1305 but I want to upgrade, what is the best version? should I go with the last one?

[brock01]

if i put 2 nonraid sata disks into the ez-backup with jbod will it erase all that is on there?

[Pol1977]

I used to run @ 400 FSB on my Core 2 Duo E6400 (-->3200MHz) on stock voltages with stock chipset cooling. I got random system freezes unless I upped the Vmch to 1.65V. This thing runs hot!!! I couldn't even touch it. But it was stable.

Just to see what happens I ripped the metal foil off and attached a 40mm ixtrema pro quiet fan (it runs @ 4500 rpm with no noise at all but it is expensive). I can now run @ 400 fsb with Vmch on Auto. I've been running orthos for 24 hours 36 minutes 11 seconds now and it is stable :)

Since I'm one of those strange people who believe in overclocking without overvolting (purists they call us I think), I am very happy with it. A very small modification that goes a long way. And if you use a good fan, without ANY added noise. Highly recomended :)

[kevsta112003]

you needed 1.65vmch to run at 3.2ghz!!! Im stable at 3.2Ghz with just 1.5.

[cuke2u]

Hi, available here ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5W%20DH%20Deluxe/ not tried it..
ChrisC

[lawrywild]

dam you beat me to it, I was uploading it to rapidshare so I could get some rapidshare premium points lol :(

[lawrywild]

Faster mirror for 1801 ;)

http://rapidshare.com/files/8522180/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1801.rar

Every bios I have in my possesion here:

http://rapidshare.com/users/YM171Q?byfilename=1

[BenchZowner]

Hopefully that'll get my >11 multi's back :P
tRFC/tRD/RMS enabled in this BIOS ? nah, don't think so [ would like to see that happening though ]

[lawrywild]

Everyone send support emails to asus asking for tRFC in bios, maybe that'll get them to finally do something about it. But I mean everyone, even people without problems, just help us guys out please :)

[Luis_GT]

Hey lawry, does the 1801 bios add anything new, or is it the same as the 1707?

[BenchZowner]

Once again...another 1337 [ leet ] Asus P5W BIOS Release!
- Nothing Changed actually
- Still CPU Ratios 6-11 for X6800

This is pissing me off!

[lawrywild]

Hey lawry, does the 1801 bios add anything new, or is it the same as the 1707?

No, it's a pile of $hit :rolleyes:

...as usual

[nickfd]

I used to run @ 400 FSB on my Core 2 Duo E6400 (-->3200MHz) on stock voltages with stock chipset cooling. I got random system freezes unless I upped the Vmch to 1.65V. This thing runs hot!!! I couldn't even touch it. But it was stable.

Just to see what happens I ripped the metal foil off and attached a 40mm ixtrema pro quiet fan (it runs @ 4500 rpm with no noise at all but it is expensive). I can now run @ 400 fsb with Vmch on Auto. I've been running orthos for 24 hours 36 minutes 11 seconds now and it is stable :)

Since I'm one of those strange people who believe in overclocking without overvolting (purists they call us I think), I am very happy with it. A very small modification that goes a long way. And if you use a good fan, without ANY added noise. Highly recomended :)

Hi Pol, is this the ixtreme fan (http://www.3dcool.com/product_info.php?products_id=1620) that you were talking about? Did you have any issues mounting it on to the NB?

Another question to anyone that's used thermal monitors on the NB: I know I remember seeing posts earlier, but if anyone has the information handy, could you please post:

base temps with the crap thermal stuff and no mods
replacing crap thermal with AS5 and reapplying standard copper block
replacing with an aftermarket passive cooled (air) block, and which block you used
any options with an air actively cooled solution, either with 40mm on standard block or aftermarket
lastly, with a waterblock, regardless of waterflow (no crazy stuff, just water)


I'm thinking maybe cooling this via air (if you can get it up to 1.65v or higher without much problem), rather than worrying about splitting my watercooling and adding additional tubing/valves and a block. I'm thinking my only benefit of water is that I'd be able to take it higher with some mb modification, since my mb doesnt take the vMCH higher than 1.65.. At least on my 1506 bios.

I'll finally get to work on my rig tonight/tomorrow and will get to paste additional info and make a sig with my specific details.

Thanks all!

[maukka]

The problems are:

1. System becomes unstable and spontaneously reboots (no BSOD) whenever 3D gaming or 2D video rendering occurs. The system is perfectly stable, and seems generally fine when idle, and even runs Orthos without fail.

Hi, I had the exact same problem. Random reboots whenever I was watching any video. Memtest and Orthos ran without errors for hours on end. Reverting to stock volts with no overlocking didn't help. As did not relaxing the mem timings with memset. Sometimes the system was up for several days, sometimes crashed several times a day.

It ended up being the ram. I swapped my Kingston ValueRAM (KVR667D2N5K2/2G) to equivalent Corsair sticks and all the problems disappeared. Now I've been running a stable system for over a month. The Kingston RAM wasn't bad, because they run fine now in a friend's P5B.

Hope this helps.

[don_vercetti]

can you post up the asus support email address? their site is a nightmare to navigate, and you seem to be a man with contacts.

[syne_24]

Everyone send support emails to asus asking for tRFC in bios, maybe that'll get them to finally do something about it. But I mean everyone, even people without problems, just help us guys out please :)


tell me about..i posted some rant in their forums before about sub timing options. I think everyone should make a post in that forum to get their attention. It's been more than 6 months and we can't even get one bios to fix that issue. And it really pissed me off since either they are unaware or dont give a crap. I doubt we will see this anytime soon. Personally I had it with this board, it's stable as a rock but pissed me off at the same time with the little things. One more month for the IN9 for me.

[lawrywild]

can you post up the asus support email address? their site is a nightmare to navigate, and you seem to be a man with contacts.

http://vip.asus.com/eservice/techserv.aspx ;)

Everyone post the replies back here :)

[NghtShd]

Once again...another 1337 [ leet ] Asus P5W BIOS Release!
- Nothing Changed actually
- Still CPU Ratios 6-11 for X6800

This is pissing me off!

Have you tried typing in the multiplier? Someone said that worked, but he didn't have an unlocked chip so even if it allows you to enter a number it may not actually set the multiplier to that value.

[petro]

tell me about..
There is no sense in writing messages on their forum. I have seen such requests many times without answers, so I think there is no asus personnel at the forum - for example this is my last post at their forum: http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?mid=20061222201008508&board_id=1&model=P5W%20DH%20Deluxe&page=1&isread=1&SLanguage=en-us
You must become a VIP member (register your product and get personal account) to be able to write a direct "Technical Inquiry". I am planning to do it in a short time.
As I wrote in my post, I have a Patriot-1066 kit and extremely need "Write-to-precharge delayed" timing to set it to 25 or more... I cant do this even under Windows with MemSet utility... :(

[ketma]

http://vip.asus.com/eservice/techserv.aspx ;)

Everyone post the replies back here :)

Hi,

I attempted to query the tRFC issue with tech support, but after two attempts they fobbed me off with the 1705 BIOS. I tried (in simple english) to explain what we all want/need in the BIOS but Asus seem to have this barrier that is a 'tech' support team who either don't understand or listen or just want to fob us all off.

The thing I don't understand is that we can change the RAM timings with Memset so why don't they simply add the options in the BIOS?

I wonder if it has something to do with the P5B which has all the timings available - maybe they don't want to lose sales from this board.....either way we need an answer so at least we can decide if we're all waiting in vain and just move on.....

Cheers.

[Pol1977]

Hi Pol, is this the ixtreme fan (http://www.3dcool.com/product_info.php?products_id=1620) that you were talking about? Did you have any issues mounting it on to the NB?

No, I used the 40 x 10 mm fan because my Thermalright Ultra 120 CPU heatsink covers part of the Northbridge cooler, leaving just a little more than 1 cm for a fan... So 2mm thick fun is out of the question. But the cooling is adequate with the 10mm thick fan and the formerly blazing hot heatsink is now barely warm to the touch.

No mounting issues. You can use standard mounting screws. I used the rubber ones sold with the fan to jam the fan between mu CPU heatsink and the NB heatsink and it worked fine!

[mooch49]

i just paired this board with the 6600. i would like to overclock, but not very much. from reading posts, it seems this board is ideal for at least 3ghz. the only thing that concerns me is that i am using intel's heatsink. i don't want to buy another because it was pain just getting that one on perfectly. but i get really good temps. according to speedfan, i am at 32 ide, 45 full load. coretemp and TAT are 5 degrees higher respectively. so i think i can overclock a little with intel's heatsink. i just would like a starting point in terms of settings. again, i am looking to clock between the 2.7-3.0 range. any tips would be appreciated.

[petro]

The thing I don't understand is that we can change the RAM timings with Memset so why don't they simply add the options in the BIOS?

Just look at timings of P5W DH vs. P5B Dlx/WiFi:
http://petro.com.ua/pc/p5wdh_p5b_timings.gif

They are completely different, and we cannot modify this f**king "Write-to-precharge delayed" timing that allows memory to work at high speed with P5W DH BIOS :(

PS I have just written a technical inquiry to asus tech, waiting for a response in 48 hours...

[roger_h99.nor]

Once again...another 1337 [ leet ] Asus P5W BIOS Release!
- Nothing Changed actually
- Still CPU Ratios 6-11 for X6800

This is pissing me off!

Actually, I managed to set the mp to 12 on my first boot after flash, but
on the second boot no luck. 1305 was the last bios to get this option, if I remember right?

[WeldZilla]

I tried the new 1801 bios tonight and I have already tossed it. Total crap!!
you know though it is funny I see these 680I boards running higher speeds using a lower mutiplier that kicks up the fsb then of coarse they are running around 475 1:1 on the mem and this board still hands their ass to them by just about a minute and in some cases more than a minute on 32M at far slower fsb and cpu speeds. I am running the 1707 again but I am going to fall back all the way to the 1305 just to see if it was as much better as my memory thinks. Then I will progress forward from there. The 1801 bios not only killed my highest overclocks it slowed my 1M Pi down dramatically too.

WZ

WZ

[nickfd]

I tried the new 1801 bios tonight and I have already tossed it. Total crap!!
you know though it is funny I see these 680I boards running higher speeds using a lower mutiplier that kicks up the fsb then of coarse they are running around 475 1:1 on the mem and this board still hands their ass to them by just about a minute and in some cases more than a minute on 32M at far slower fsb and cpu speeds. I am running the 1707 again but I am going to fall back all the way to the 1305 just to see if it was as much better as my memory thinks. Then I will progress forward from there. The 1801 bios not only killed my highest overclocks it slowed my 1M Pi down dramatically too.
WZ

Hey WZ, I had flashed my board to the 1801 last night and spent the the majority of the evening trying to push my board a bit higher.. Things weren't so successful, no matter if i put 1.75 mch, 1.65 vcore and 2.4 vdimm, i just couldnt do much more than 380x9 with 5-5-5-15.

I tried going down to 8x, and could do 428x8 but with 1.6 vcore and it wasn't really stable (had to loosen tRD to 8 and i set the tRFC to 42).. Rather than mess with it, i went to bed.

Now I woke up this morning and saw your post, which gave me hope. So I tried going down to 1707 in the asus ez-flash bios using an external usb hdd that had the rom, but the computer locked as it was flashing.

When my box boots, i get a "Boot Block Compatible Version Ver.021 - If you want to recovery from USB device, please do not insert any disc into CD-ROM or Floppy!! Bad Bios checksum. Starting BIOS Recovery.."

It seems to look for P5WDH.ROM, but i grabbed the 1707 rom, renamed it, put it on the root of my usb drive, and it hangs the cycle of the recovery.. :confused: This sucks! I'm going to keep messing with it and try another bios, as well as putting it on a floppy.

[nickfd]

When my box boots, i get a "Boot Block Compatible Version Ver.021 - If you want to recovery from USB device, please do not insert any disc into CD-ROM or Floppy!! Bad Bios checksum. Starting BIOS Recovery.."

It seems to look for P5WDH.ROM, but i grabbed the 1707 rom, renamed it, put it on the root of my usb drive, and it hangs the cycle of the recovery.. :confused: This sucks! I'm going to keep messing with it and try another bios, as well as putting it on a floppy.

K, burning the .rom to a cd recovered me. That was scary! I'm at 1707 now. :)

[BenchZowner]

Have you tried typing in the multiplier? Someone said that worked, but he didn't have an unlocked chip so even if it allows you to enter a number it may not actually set the multiplier to that value.

Nope.
Won't work.
The bug was introduced in....1707, and kept ( not as a secret :P ) on 1801 aswell :D

Now spam AsusTek with requests for a BIOS with tRD & tRFC & RMS 'til they decide to give us what we want :)

[petro]

Today I have received a most stupid answer ever for my inquiry from ASUS:

Try a QVL specified modules or Corsair, we have never faced such a problem before

Complete bull:banana::banana::banana::banana:!! All forums (this forum, iXBT.com, overclockers.ru etc.) are burning with puplic indignation regarding this problem. We need to write a letter to someone with higher authority than such a stupid technical mail-replier!!!

[lawrywild]

Why doesn't an asus tech support guy just :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing forward it to the damn bios department.. :slapass:

[WeldZilla]

Good save nick! I fell all the way back to the 1305 bios. I am currently running 425 fsb 1:1 with my timings set at 3-3-3-4 like it's nothing. I am going to work my way back up the bios chain again and take better notes about any subtle differences.

WZ

[bichi]

PW5DH - (early MCH 1.65 version) - BIOS: 1801
QX6700 QUAD @ 3.0ghz (mild OC)

Installed and operating without much change to memory I/O, Temps, Volts, Prime and PI benches, etc.
- have not tried upping multiplier yet

Note:
- appears flash BIOS update method will not read USB flashdrive content, if JMicron SATA port [SATA RAID 1] is connected.
- BIOS flash tool loads normally, but refuses to allow selection of source device.
- disconnecting drive from JMicron [SATA RAID 1] port solved issue.

[Thasp]

I'm curious, does anyone else have the issue where the CPU is stable at 440-450 FSB, but the RAM can't even do DDR670 at 3-4-4-12..? Mine failed memtest after 15 passes/6 hours 11 minutes this morning at this speed, but with a lower FSB it works fine at higher clocks... This was done after it froze within 40 minutes of the CPU being at full load with two jobs going, taking a total of 750 MB of RAM(before browser/OS).

[nickfd]

your way above your ram limit, it problay would have to run
cas6 to hit over 360

even the corsair XMS2-8500C5 have very poor SPD timings
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/9144/cpuzei9.png

Team Xtreem PC6400
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3792/spdyd0.jpg

cellshock PC6400
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/4263/cellshockih9.jpg


so guess out of those 3 rams that will run into the 975 bug
corsair compatable spd timings myth

the Team Xtreem PC6400 and cellshock wont have the FSB bug over 360
simply because their programmed correctly.

^-- I ran into this post like midway through the thread searching for DRAM Throttling option on if it should be on/off, and it has me a little concerned.. I have this Corsair memory and the max I can do with 9x multiplier stable is 384x9 1:1 (5-5-5-15) with 1.57v on water, my cores on max load are at 59-60c.

I played around with some 8x stuff, but didn't test stability too far, however I know i could get 8x428 1:1 with 1.6v. I may have relaxed my memory, but I don't remember (was 4am and didn't write it down).

Is there anything I can do to get higher fsb with my 9x short of getting different memory? I've already ordered the thermaltake extreme chipset cooler, so I figure that's a start, but I'm wondering if it's a lost cause.

[Luis_GT]

ok, 1801 is THE worst bios I've EVER used... I got constant BSOD's even @ stock... and EZ flash didn't work.

[WeldZilla]

You have a floppy drive Luis? Just grab the older bios you want. I am back with the 1707 tonight well anyway rename the the 1707 bios to P5WDH.ROM and load it on a floppy.
Put the Floppy in and reboot. When your machine posts immediately hit ALT+F2 your machine will take it from there and put on the old bios. You can do this with whatever older bios you prefer. Just remember to rename it or else it won't be recognized. Yes you can do it with a flash drive also. I am old school and will always have a floppy drive. Just don't touch anything, when it is finished it will seem like foirever before it reboots but, it will so leave it alone

WZ

[Thasp]

Is there even a point to updating the BIOS when ASUS ignores the biggest issues?

[iadstudio]

I'm currently running bios 1503 and stabalizing a 340 fsb OC with my e6700. I've been working on a 8x and 9x multi OC and got the FSB only up to 370 ish. Not sure why but there seems to be a wall.:confused: Double checked all my settings and temps are good. Would a bios update help me at all?

What has changed from 1503 bios?

[Khaotic]

I have flashed my P5W DH to the 1707 BIOS. Before swapping to the Xeon 3060 in my sig, I was able to overclock my E6600 from 3.3 GHz to 3.4Ghz which was previously unstable. Maybe that was just an increadible coincidence.
Either way, I have just installed a Xeon 3060 that is humming along with a 1600 QDR bus speed (400Mhz) at 3.6Ghz. I would try more, but this CPU needs a lap job just like my E6600 did. SO, i'll pull the CPU later, kiss my warranty goodbye, and lap the CPU.

--more to come--

[Luis_GT]

You have a floppy drive Luis? Just grab the older bios you want. I am back with the 1707 tonight well anyway rename the the 1707 bios to P5WDH.ROM and load it on a floppy.
Put the Floppy in and reboot. When your machine posts immediately hit ALT+F2 your machine will take it from there and put on the old bios. You can do this with whatever older bios you prefer. Just remember to rename it or else it won't be recognized. Yes you can do it with a flash drive also. I am old school and will always have a floppy drive. Just don't touch anything, when it is finished it will seem like foirever before it reboots but, it will so leave it alone

WZ

I flashed back to 1503 using afudos... I will never throw away my Floppy drive... even if everyone says its useless ;) I tried Alt +F2 and it didn't work, maynly because I didn't rename the bios... didn't know that bit of info... All is working again and I even played 2hours straight of Prey with no problems. :D

[iadstudio]

We'll se tomorrow how my latest OC holds. Been strugling with 3.4ghz which should be no problem. Temps at 58c load - volts at 1.5v in bios. Don't know why but Orthos cr@ps on me at 12-15 hrs!?! If this lattest attmept fails I'll update my bios to 1707.

[WeldZilla]

Good job Luis, main thing is just not to panic when things go all to hell.
glad it worked out for you.

WZ

[BenchZowner]

I'll have the site ready tomorrow. and will I publish the related article and Asus's Tech Support evaluation results article.
Gonna publish the article on TheInquirer ( sigh ) aswell :D
Hopefully that'll grab Asus's attention.
Else, I will grab the details of a high ranked Asus employee ( with the help of my friends in the industry :D ) and will have a chat with him.

[cuke2u]

Hi, that's the best way to go at it benchzowner, no good ranting away, pls publish a link to all articles...

BTW, running the 1801 bios, no issues at all but only running a oc of 2.8, geil ram you see...
ChrisC

[lawrywild]

I'll have the site ready tomorrow. and will I publish the related article and Asus's Tech Support evaluation results article.
Gonna publish the article on TheInquirer ( sigh ) aswell :D
Hopefully that'll grab Asus's attention.
Else, I will grab the details of a high ranked Asus employee ( with the help of my friends in the industry :D ) and will have a chat with him.

Good luck, catch me on msn, I want to talk :)

[Eastcoasthandle]

I still don't see whats wrong with 0701 bios. I haven't notice any real improvement since then.

[lawrywild]

Apart from taking my harddrives on a rollercoaster, I guess it's ok.. :rolleyes:

[WeldZilla]

Along with the HDD's the older bios' also worked over my Eheim pump. All the on and off and on and off. Now that I think about it. It wore the hell out of me and my nerves too. I am back up to 1707 and I am going to hang here til Asus gives me my miracle bios. Still I am extremely happed with this set up. As you can see in my sig It runs daily at a nice fast pace. Does not ever fall on it's face. Does my work without error. I liked my Presler a lot. I loved my 540J processor on a Epox 865 board It ran daily at 4400 mhz. Cool and smooth. But this Conroe, well there is just nothing like it. And this board, while there is room for improvement I just love it.
Merry Christmas to all here
Happy Honnakuh
Happy Qwansa
I hope 2007 is better for all of us...........

WZ

[lawrywild]

Merry Christmas WeldZilla and everyone reading :D

I'm also sticking on 1707 for now, I'm going to keep in touch with BenchZowner and see how he gets on

[SKiLL3D]

I'll definitely change to Abit AW9D-Max if next BIOS is the same crap as 1801(BSODs@stock). Its not perfect or better, but Performance is the same and OCing works easier and it has less bugs.

BTW: Merry Christmas!

iLL

[Pol1977]

I tried 1707. I had to up the vmch to 1.65V for my board to work @ 400fsb, or I experience random lockups.

I'm back to 1602 now and everything is on Auto @ 400fsb and orthos has been running for more than 7 hours.

I think I'll skip 1801 since all you guys have had so much trouble with it.

[pee4]

Can't speak to x64, sorry.

From what I've found you will have to do a reinstall with F6 drivers. I'm running RAID0 on the EZ ports and have been completely unsuccessful in moving the array to ICH7. I have another drive that I ghosted the array to and Windows will boot from it as long as I leave my array connected to the EZ ports. Once the array is removed Windows hangs on start and will not even enter safe mode. This is with booting the 3rd drive from any of the ICH7 ports, or the JMicron, or either EZ port.

I've scoured the net looking for a way to do this without a reinstall, but no luck so far. If anyone has accomplished this it would be great if you would share!

You can change from one hard drive controller to another without re-installing. It's irrelevant whether the controller is RAID or not, and it's irrelevant whether it SATA or IDE. But you need Norton Ghost, and enough spare hard drives.

Enable the NEW controller in the bios (or plug in the controller card if the NEW controller is PCI or PCI-E).

Boot windows and install the drivers for the NEW controller.

Power down the PC.

Attach "NEW" hard drive(s) to NEW controller.

Boot PC using MSDOS startup disk. Then run Norton Ghost from a floppy drive and do a DISK-TO-DISK (if you have RAID-0 then Ghost will see the RAID-0 array as one big disk - that's perfect).

Power down the PC.

Remove the OLD drive(s) from the OLD controller, and now boot the PC from the NEW drive(s) that are attached to the NEW controller.

Done!!!! Sounds hard but it's EASY.

If you want to move your RAID-0 drives from one controller to another (using the same drives), all you need is one large spare drive. You Ghost from the RAID-0 drives to the spare drive. Then move the RAID-0 drives to the new controller and then ghost from the spare drive back to the RAID-0 drives.

[BenchZowner]

Merry Christmas everybody :)
Wish you all the best, and have some nice days, enjoy your holidays.

I'll work my way to Asus next week.
Let's see what will the results be :D

[cuke2u]

Hi, just got through re-installing Vista with the new motherboard bios 1801, right after I installed the latest DH Remore software I had a BSOD. I then booted into safe mode and removing the DH software stopped the BSOD. I then uninstalled the wireless driver and re-installed the DH software, guess what - no BSOD.
Found a beta setup for the wireless and Vista, now no BSOD, just played HF2 Episode One for two hours solid and it's fine...

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all!!!!


ChrisC

[dspevack]

Hi all.
Is there a QVL for this board I can download?
I've seen the Corsair configurator. That's Corsair's opinion.
If there is an official list, or anyone has any hints, like certain chip size/density better than others, please speak up.

Looking for a pair of 1GB strips, lower end, as I don't intend to overclock.

Dan

[kevsta112003]

How far do you guys think I can push my e6400? right now im doing 425x8 with 1.55Vmch. Temps are solid and dont break 50c in core temp. I want to hit 450, dont know if thats a reasonable goal though.

[flashnc]

hard to say kevsta.....
up your vmch to 1.65....

cpu to 1.45 see if it goes higher, that will tell ya what it has left if it goes upo with more voltage...those voltages shouldnt effect your load temps to much, but keep an eye on them as you go higher voltages... good luck

[nicko]

I'm running now 1506 bios...at stock...
Can you tell me which is the most stable bios?
And which is the best for oc??
thx!

[nickfd]

I'm running now 1506 bios...at stock...
Can you tell me which is the most stable bios?
And which is the best for oc??
thx!

Hey Nicko,

I cant speak for everyone since I'm a bit new on the board as well, but look at a few of the big posters (lawry and weldzilla) for your best info. I know WZ just went back from 1801 to 1707 (thats where I'm at as well).

Good luck and Merry Xmas!
Nick

[nicko]

Hey Nicko,

I cant speak for everyone since I'm a bit new on the board as well, but look at a few of the big posters (lawry and weldzilla) for your best info. I know WZ just went back from 1801 to 1707 (thats where I'm at as well).

Good luck and Merry Xmas!
Nick

Ok, thank you for information. I think I'll go for 1707. And I'll see what can I do :)

I have L627A105 mark on my cpu, so I see you have the same week as I have.
How far did you go with your cpu, and with which voltages??
Merry Xmas to you too!

[lawrywild]

3000 posts, 300000 views on Christmas day.. the timing :D :toast: