ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

[nanoprobe32]

Im using Super Talent PC-6400 and I can boot fine at 400 fsb with manual timing 4-4-3-8, I have no idea if they are D9 or not but they are good ram atleast. :)

Super Talent PC-6400 (http://www.powerchargers.com/p/142338/t800ux2gc4-800mhz-2gb-low-latency-ddr2-ultra-high-performance-dual-channel-memory-kit-for-enthusiasts-and-gamers.html)


could you please post a screenshot of your SPD tables with CPUz
iam making a list of memory that works on all asus 975 chipsets

thanks

[Gascogne]

could you please post a screenshot of your SPD tables with CPUz
iam making a list of memory that works on all asus 975 chipsets

thanks
They have bad SPD tables if not set on manual timings heh.

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/9371/memap0.th.jpg (http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=memap0.jpg)

[Sparx]

larrywild
Here are my RAM settings as Memset 3.0 reports them. The tRFC is at 28. Is it suppose to be 42 regardless, because I had no problem passing 360. :shrug:
sparx

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/sparx21/MEMSET.jpg

[lawrywild]

larrywild
Here are my RAM settings as Memset 3.0 reports them. The tRFC is at 28. Is it suppose to be 42 regardless, because I had no problem passing 360. :shrug:
sparx

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/sparx21/MEMSET.jpg

Yeh, that's what I would expect to see, coz your ram boots fine at manual timings

[Sparx]

oK Larry
So if my rig would not boot manual settings then using SPD I would need to change to 42?

Sorry for not understanding yet.
sparx

[lawrywild]

yes

[Sparx]

yes
thanks
:D
Anyone know what chips are on G.skill HZ, the heatspreaders of course cover this info up.

sparx

[The Nemesis]

thanks
:D
Anyone know what chips are on G.skill HZ, the heatspreaders of course cover this info up.

sparx
Micron D9. The early ones were high binned. Whats the first four on your serial #?

[rpr]

How do you use Memset to determine what the existing RAM settings are...just open the program???

The reason I ask is when I open the program, my tRFC setting is aleady at 42 and I can't run stable at 3.4Ghz (using BIOS fsb settings). However, if I hit "Apply" in Memset, and then try to run at 3.4 Ghz (using Setfsb in Windows), I seem stable (so far).

Am I changing anything if I just "Apply" the settings that come up by default in Memset when I open the program???

I'm so confused.

[Thasp]

Does this board shut down if the northbridge gets too hot, or does the northbridge burn out and kill the motherboard?

[lawrywild]

Does this board shut down if the northbridge gets too hot, or does the northbridge burn out and kill the motherboard?

Probably the latter :p:

[Sparx]

Micron D9. The early ones were high binned. Whats the first four on your serial #?
First 4 digits: 6360
High binned? what that?
Jim

[The Nemesis]

First 4 digits: 6360
High binned? what that?
Jim

Quote:
Originally Posted by marauder16
What is binning actually?
And what are the differences in performance depending on binning quality? please explain

Pasted from <http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=124814>





IC's of the same model & revision are not all of the same quality. Some are capable of higher speeds than others. The manufacturers will test them and put them into different speed "bins". The IC sorting is why some modules cost more than others. I read that the reason why Corsair Dominator PC2-8888 is so expensive is because only about 5% of the IC's purchased are good enough to be called PC2-8888.

[Sparx]

OK Nem
What does my serial number tell you?
EDIT:
I peeked under the heat spreader (Ihate heat spreaders) and I have: "6pD22 D9gmh". According to the thread llinked these are rated for 667? My RAM is 6400 or 800 mhz. Whatever. Running 800! :woot:
sparx

[The Nemesis]

OK Nem
What does my serial number tell you?
sparx
The early models that got everyone's attention were 0603-0605. Later G. Skill changed their numbering scheme and it seemed around that time the chips used were not as high binned as the others. This is all speculation of course, but my 0605's clock much higher than my 063205's. My 0605's also work well with the 4:5 divider on the P5W DH whereas the 063205's won't even boot. Finally the 0605's will do 3-3-3-X 800mhz 2.3v & my 063205's won't do 3-3-3-X 800mhz at any voltage. Your sticks are more than likely like my 063205's. Good micron Micron D9GMH (B6-3) capable of 4-4-4-12 1000mhz 2.35-2.4v

http://ramlist.ath.cx/ddr2/

http://ramlist.ath.cx/micron/

[enz660]

I was just wondering....how does this board control the fans if the 1fan is enabled? At what temp. do the fans know when to speed up? (including the cpu fan) is it 65c or something? Is there a way to change these temps? Thanks.

[Child of Wonder]

Why don't you flash up to at least 1503.
Also what power supply are you using?
What are your (critical) BIOS settings?
What are your Vcore and Vdimm and MCH voltages?
Are you using 105 for Pcie?

You got good cooling on the MCH heat sink?

Week 27 CPUS are quite good you have to be able to hit 3.5.

This has been covered on the thread here, but it is overwhelmingly HUGE and has to be hard to sort through.
sparx

I have the same problem. Can't go above 350 or so even with 1.55V to MCH and 1.4V to CPU.

e6600 L631A454 1.35V 333x9 7.5 hours Orthos Stable
1602 BIOS, MCH 1.5V
GSkill PC6400 1.9V at SPD link (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231084)
Zalman CNPS9500 AT, 36C idle, 48C load
Thermaltake Toughpower 650W PSU
PCI-X at 100, PCI at 33.33
Memset shows tRFC at 42.
Most stuff in BIOS set per this guide. (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?p=4808903#post4808903)

Tried running 400x6 but system still wouldn't boot so I don't think it's the CPU holding me back.

Any other suggestions?

[The Nemesis]

I have the same problem. Can't go above 350 or so even with 1.55V to MCH and 1.4V to CPU.

e6600 L631A454 1.35V 333x9 7.5 hours Orthos Stable
1602 BIOS, MCH 1.5V
GSkill PC6400 1.9V at SPD link (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231084)
Zalman CNPS9500 AT, 36C idle, 48C load
Thermaltake Toughpower 650W PSU
PCI-X at 100, PCI at 33.33
Memset shows tRFC at 42.
Most stuff in BIOS set per this guide. (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?p=4808903#post4808903)

Tried running 400x6 but system still wouldn't boot so I don't think it's the CPU holding me back.

Any other suggestions?
Have you tried more voltage on your MCH? Some boards just need more voltage to run OC. Try 1.65-1.75vmch. Are you running stock cooling on your chipset? I changed mine to AS5 then I removed the heat pipe all together. I mention this because I wouldn't recommend running 1.75-1.85vmch with stock cooling.

[Child of Wonder]

Have you tried more voltage on your MCH? Some boards just need more voltage to run OC. Try 1.65-1.75vmch. Are you running stock cooling on your chipset? I changed mine to AS5 then I removed the heat pipe all together. I mention this because I wouldn't recommend running 1.75-1.85vmch with stock cooling.

No, it's stock cooling. 1.55V is the highest I've tried on the MCH.

Is the BIOS the only location to get the MCH temp? Other than that one needs to manually check the temp?

Anything else I can try?

[The Nemesis]

No, it's stock cooling. 1.55V is the highest I've tried on the MCH.

Is the BIOS the only location to get the MCH temp? Other than that one needs to manually check the temp?

Anything else I can try?
Try uping the volts to 1.65vmch. Thats what 400FSB took on all 3 of tghe P5W DH boards I've owned, two of which I didn't change the stock cooling or even as AS5. Also, your cpu volts are probably too low. The vdroop on this board will make 1.4v set in bios under 1.35v load. Few 6600's can do 3.6ghz @ 1.36v. You need to set your cpu to 1.475v or 1.4850v. The pc should boot @ 3.6ghz 400FSB with these two increases in voltages and be okay in temps.

[Child of Wonder]

Put MCH up to 1.65V and Vcore to 1.4875 and I almost made it to Windows but that was all. :(

[Sparx]

Nem
Could he have the tRFC issue with the RAM?
And Child of W is your RAM still @ 1.9v, 2.05 won't hurt.

sparx

[rpr]

Well, I tried memset to relax tRFC to 42 and Trd to 7 as well as 8, and then tried to increase past my 356 fsb wall using Setfsb. No luck.

I have tried everything to get past this fsb wall, and all has failed. I can do 356 fsb x 9 (3.2. Ghz) at all stock voltages, yet no amoiunt of voltage increases and no amount of relaxed RAM settings (CAS, tRFC and Trd) have helped break past this wall.

Despite all the optimism that the fsb walls are related to a simple memory sub-timing, that is not my case. I need to be satisfied with 3.2 Ghz out of my E6600 and P5W-DH Deluxe. I am tired of flashing and tweaking to no avail.

Thanks to all for all the suggestions.

[The Nemesis]

Nem
Could he have the tRFC issue with the RAM?
And Child of W is your RAM still @ 1.9v, 2.05 won't hurt.

sparx
I doubt the trfc issue but I did forget to mention ram voltage. You should set the dram voltage to 2.1-2.2v. I think your sticks say 2.0-2.1v for ddr2 6400. Some sticks need the full 2.1v. you can run up to 2.2v to be safe & ensure its not the ram.

[Child of Wonder]

My RAM is rated for 1.9V-2.0V at 800MHz. If I'm running the RAM below it's rated speed, how would increasing the voltage help?

[The Nemesis]

My RAM is rated for 1.9V-2.0V at 800MHz. If I'm running the RAM below it's rated speed, how would increasing the voltage help?
1.9v-2.0v? Guess I should of looked at your b4. I'm not sure what ic's that ram is based on but I'm guessing that my be your problem. The P5W DH has been known to be picky with ram. Did you try setting your ram to spd instead of manual? Do you have a friend with some G. Skill HZ's or Corsair? If you live near a Fry's or something & its not too much trouble, you may want to pick up some different ram just to eliminate yours as the issue. You can always return it.:)

[VIctorj]

Guys, im looking for some pics: P5wdh with TT BT, and some aftermarket chipset coolers...just to check for clearance.

Thanx a lot!

PM me so we dont hack the thread.

[The Nemesis]

examples of different speed binning of G. Skills I spoke of earlier .

http://img.techpowerup.org/061204/spd 063205.jpghttp://img.techpowerup.org/061204/spd 0605051021183-84).jpg

[VIctorj]

Here you go..
I'll delete them tomorrow..

You got it wrong pal :P ...i was looking for pics with the TT BT installed + some aftermarket chipset coolers installed as well. So i can check for clearance...well...at least someone could tell me wich Chipset cooler i can buy that fits without touching the BT?

Any TT BT and non-stock-chipset-cooler-users around here?

[ntvh]

You got it wrong pal :P ...i was looking for pics with the TT BT installed + some aftermarket chipset coolers installed as well. So i can check for clearance...well...at least someone could tell me wich Chipset cooler i can buy that fits without touching the BT?

Any TT BT and non-stock-chipset-cooler-users around here?

hope this will help http://www.mips-computer.de/index.htm
:D

[cuke2u]

Hi, lawrywild, on what basis do you make this statement that the Antec NeoHE 500 watt is no good for this motherboard?

I posed the question to Asus technical help and this is the reply I got:
Dear Friend :
Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Service.
My name is ZYC, and I would be assisting you today.
I checked your hardware configuration, the 550w PSU is far enough for your hardwares, you don't need purchase another PSU.


Thank you for using ASUS products and services!

If you have any problem about our products, you can visit our support site below to search the solution at the first time"

So, from the horses mouth the Antec NeoHe 550 watt PSU is more than enough to power this motherboard!!
ChrisC

http://support.asus.com

ZYC

ASUS Customer Service Center (Beijing)

[monza1412]

Yeah I have the RAM manual- 4-4-4-12-4.
I am running 1:1 with Ortho stable at 400 x9 for 5.5 hours.
Never had a lock up except when I fiddled with my video card overclock, being a noob at overclocking video cards. :hitself:

Where are you are maybe someone can buy it here and ship it to you?
The RAM you are looking at has good timings but I know nothing about it.
I ship overseas all the time I could help?
sparx


thxs for your offer man, I will send you a pm.

[Potato Salad]

I was having some issues getting past 3.1Ghz till someone here told me to take vcore off auto..
So I did, put it to 1.35v and bumped up fsb to 356 and voila.
I'm now 800MHz over stock, and very sure I can go farther aswell..
I was checking to see if i'm Orthos Stable and yup i think so..

[monza1412]

Well I had no luck with memset and larry´s theory, still orhos unstable at 400
This was booting with manual timings 5.5.5.15 and tweak every single valor in memset to a larger one.
Voltage settings in bios was:

cpu (e6600/L629B Batch) ---- 1.4v, 1.45v ( it does 3.5 ghz at 1.3 orhos stable) :clap:
mem----2.15,2.2,2.25v
mch----1.65v (early revision)
The other ones set to auto
Bios: 1601, 1602, 1503, 1506, 1407, 1305. None of them stable at 400 :mad:

Ram is a kingston hyperx KHX6000D2K2/1G rated 4.4.4.12 at 750 mhz 1.9v. I think it has Infineon chips.


some screens:

This is with no tweaking at all, I mean windows boots with this settings at 400 fsb

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4190/failqi9.th.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=failqi9.jpg)

with trfc at 42

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7797/fail2jw7.th.jpg (http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fail2jw7.jpg)


this is changing trc to 8, with trfc at 42

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/5703/fail3wt3.th.jpg (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fail3wt3.jpg)

[Eddie Spaghetti]

Hi there!

My P5W is running fine a few weeks now. But, since a while, the BIOS is inaccessable!


When booting the computer, first there is a black screen, with only a blinking dash -no BIOS splash screen. Then after 30 sec. the following message appears:



JMicron PCIE-SATAII / IDE RAID CONTROLLER, BIOS V1.06.56A

Detect drivers done, no any drive found.

Update: as suggested by Laa:(


Then Windows XP starts. There seems to be no way to get into BIOS.



I don't know exactly when this problem occured, perhaps when I changed the SATA drives from the EZ-headers to SATA1 and -3; perhaps when I installed the JMicron driver. I don't know.

I reinstalled XP 3x meanwhile :confused2 No change.


Is there any way to get the BIOS screen back? Uninstall the JMicron driver in some way?

Please help!


P5W # E6600 # 2x 1GB GSkill (GBPK) # MSI 7900GTO # E-MU 1212 # Seasonic 430 # Ninja

Update: as suggested by Larry, I cleared the CMOS. No change :(

[lawrywild]

Hi, lawrywild, on what basis do you make this statement that the Antec NeoHE 500 watt is no good for this motherboard?

I posed the question to Asus technical help and this is the reply I got:
Dear Friend :
Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Service.
My name is ZYC, and I would be assisting you today.
I checked your hardware configuration, the 550w PSU is far enough for your hardwares, you don't need purchase another PSU.


Thank you for using ASUS products and services!

If you have any problem about our products, you can visit our support site below to search the solution at the first time"

So, from the horses mouth the Antec NeoHe 550 watt PSU is more than enough to power this motherboard!!
ChrisC

http://support.asus.com

ZYC

ASUS Customer Service Center (Beijing)

hahaha that's the same guy that sent this to me earlier, he knows very little. Spread spectrum isn't even in the bios. Trust asus to pretend that there is no issues with anything on their boards...

Dear Friend :

Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Service.

My name is ZYC, and I would be assisting you today.

Sir, if you want to overclock higher,

i give you 2 suggestions about bios settings.

first,

set that Spead spcturm to Disabled,

that is very important.

If you still can not OC to higher,

please set MCH voltage to 1.65v for a test.


Thank you for using ASUS products and services!

If you have any problem about our products, you can visit our support site below to search the solution at the first time!

http://support.asus.com

ZYC

ASUS Customer Service Center (Beijing)

*If you have any suggestion or complaints about our tech support service, please send your valuable info to support@asus.com.cn , we arrange specilists to handle relative issue, your suggestion may give us more elicitation to serve our customers much better.



---------- Original Message ----------
From : lawrywild@hotmail.com
Sent : 2006-12-3 下午 08:45:41
To : "tsd@asus.com.tw"
Subject : Motherboard P5W DH Deluxe



[CASEID=WTM200612032043341850]



Apply date : 12/3/2006 8:43:34 PM

[Contact Information]
*Name : Lawrence
*Email Address : xxxxxxxx
Phone Number : xxxxxxx
City : London
*Country : United Kingdom

[Product Information]
*Product Type : Motherboard
*Product Model : P5W DH Deluxe
*Product S/N : 66M0AG119679
Place of Purchase :
*Date of Purchase : 2006/7/14

[Motherboard Specification]
*Motherboard Revision : 1.02G
*Motherboard BIOS Revision : 1602

[VGA Card Specification]
*VGA Card Vendor : MSI
*VGA Card Model : 7900GTX
*VGA Card Chipset : 7900GTX
*VGA Card Driver : 93.71

[CPU Specification]
*CPU Vendor : Intel
*CPU Type : Socket 775 E6600
*CPU Speed : 2.4Ghz

[Memory Specification]
*Memory Vendor : ADATA
*Memory Model : DDR2
*Memory Capacity : 2x1GB

[HDD Specification]
HDD Vendor : Seagate
HDD Model : 7200.8
HDD Capacity : 200GB x2

[Add-on Card Specificatio]
Add-on Card Vendor :
Add-on Card Type :
Add-on Card Model :

*Operating System : WinXP

[Problem Description]
Hi,

Ever since I have bought this board, it has been impossible to run over 356fsb stable without having
to set Memory Timings to SPD Enabled which results in a measly 5-6-6-18-21 timings which is
extremely poor. If I set timings manually I can't POST above 356fsb but if I set SPD timings to Enable,
I can POST up to 420fsb.

There is a lengthy discussion in my thread here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=110193

and MANY MANY others have the same problem.

using MEMSET 3.0 (a windows timing adjuster) it has been found out that the problem of this is the
tRFC value. Using SPD timings the tRFC is set to 42 and allows a FSB of up to 465 for my board.
When timings are set manually (4-4-4-12) I get a tRFC of 35 and the board gets extremely unstable
and the FSB cannot go above 370 without freezing. I can boot into windows at 356fsb with 4-4-4-12
timings set, then using MEMSET 3.0 to adjust tRFC to 42 and then use Clockgen (a windows fsb
adjuster) and I can go all the way to 465fsb so it obvious that the tRFC value is causing this problem.

Myself and many others (see my thread I linked to earlier), using a whole range of different memory
brands, ICs etc, have been waiting months for a BIOS update where tRFC is a option in the Chipset
timings settings. But still, months later there is still no option and we are limited to boot at 356fsb or
lower. For the insane amount of money I paid for this motherboard, I think it is outrageous that such a
small, simple option that could fix everyones fsb problem with this motherboard has still not been
added to the BIOS. Whereas, on your cheaper motherboard (P5B Deluxe etc) you have had the
tRFC option in the BIOS since the very beginning)

PLEASE PLEASE let your BIOS department know of this issue, so it can be resolved. It is just one
simple bios option to fix a hundreds of peoples fsb problem.

Thank You.

[Phoenix_TT]

Nice one LarryWild! Maybe ASUS will release a new BIOS with the tRFC option as a Christman present!

Got excited and didn't read all of LarryWild's post, so we won 't be getting a Christmas pressie from Asus then :-(

[nicepun]

Nice one LarryWild! Maybe ASUS will release a new BIOS with the tRFC option as a Christman present!

Got excited and didn't read all of LarryWild's post, so we won 't be getting a Christmas pressie from Asus then :-(

One can only wish. My board stopped been able to run 1:1 ratio or lower. I don't know why. I need to get me some D9GKX memory to rule out D9GMH issues.

[Sparx]

One can only wish. My board stopped been able to run 1:1 ratio or lower. I don't know why. I need to get me some D9GKX memory to rule out D9GMH issues.
I have G.skill with D9GMH chips- no issues.

Does Corsair use these as well?
sparx

[nicepun]

I have G.skill with D9GMH chips- no issues.

Does Corsair use these as well?
sparx

Well everything war running fine until stuck some Corsair 5400UL and things went to hell. This happened before when I was some some Patriot D9GKX and switched to Crucial 10th Anny and I coudln't do 1:1 450x8, then went back to the Patriot D9GKX and problem was solved. Then I switched to Corsair 8000UL and everything was working O.K., until I put the the 5400UL and that's where I'm now, unable to run 1:1! I do have another mobo coming in to see if it's maybe the mobo.

[Sparx]

Well everything war running fine until stuck some Corsair 5400UL and things went to hell. This happened before when I was some some Patriot D9GKX and switched to Crucial 10th Anny and I coudln't do 1:1 450x8, then went back to the Patriot D9GKX and problem was solved. Then I switched to Corsair 8000UL and everything was working O.K., until I put the the 5400UL and that's where I'm now, unable to run 1:1! I do have another mobo coming in to see if it's maybe the mobo.
Why are you changing RAM so often?
sparx

[nicepun]

Why are you changing RAM so often?
sparx

Cuz I get bored.....:slap: And I like to try different combinations to see what works best. Which at this point the mem on my sig the best thus far, SPD: 4-2-3-4 RATIO: 4:5 1000Mhz. @ 2.4v

[´Lotzi]

Asus P5WDH Deluxe Bios 1705


http://web54.nsi24.miniserver.de/wbb2/attachment.php?attachmentid=149&sid=500199ec4be5d01668cae428f4402594


regards

[nicepun]

Hey hey como on. I understand lawrywild needs to keep his integrity. `Lotzi - there's no need for name calling, but thanks for the BIOS....LOL

[antoine76]

i told lawrywild not to share 1703. It's just for test ;)

[´Lotzi]

i told lawrywild not to share 1703. It's just for test ;)


now the test is over.............


:slap: :slap: :slap:

[lawrywild]

do you know what i did when you asked for 1703? I went to my friend and asked if I could send you the bios. He said no and so I respected his decision. If you knew me, you'd know that I'm not one to keep something to myself. Good day

[syne_24]

Well everything war running fine until stuck some Corsair 5400UL and things went to hell. This happened before when I was some some Patriot D9GKX and switched to Crucial 10th Anny and I coudln't do 1:1 450x8, then went back to the Patriot D9GKX and problem was solved. Then I switched to Corsair 8000UL and everything was working O.K., until I put the the 5400UL and that's where I'm now, unable to run 1:1! I do have another mobo coming in to see if it's maybe the mobo.


the patriot XBLK right? doesnt that thing oc like a beast? I was thinking of picking up that myself.

[lawrywild]

now the test is over.............


:slap: :slap: :slap:

ahaha get over yourself :rolleyes:

[iamjcl]

So does 1705 do anything worthwhile ?

[scaramonga]

´Lotzi.......

Your acting like a kid who has just had his candy taken from him :rolleyes:

[lawrywild]

so what's so good about it?

If it goes by the usual asus bios trend it's basically 1602 renamed to 1705

[nicepun]

the patriot XBLK right? doesnt that thing oc like a beast? I was thinking of picking up that myself.

Hell YES Patriot PDC22G8000+XBLK (http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=Patriot+PDC22G8000%2BXBLK&hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2005-38,GGLD:en&sa=X&oi=froogle&ct=title) . It's the best 2GB (2x1B) I've owned.

[Gascogne]

Any improvements in 1705 from 1602?

[Wrangler88]

are the newer revisions of this board with the 1.85v northbridge overclocking better than the 1.65v versions? i have the 1.65v version and can only get 3.4ghz @ a vcore of 1.52 volts... was hoping for more... special since some of these newer cpus are hitting 3.4-3.6 on stock volts...

[lawrywild]

Probably won't make much difference, maybe a little more fsb but if your worried that you need more vmch just do a vmod, way better than getting a 1.85v mch version - much better fine tuning.

[The Nemesis]

are the newer revisions of this board with the 1.85v northbridge overclocking better than the 1.65v versions? i have the 1.65v version and can only get 3.4ghz @ a vcore of 1.52 volts... was hoping for more... special since some of these newer cpus are hitting 3.4-3.6 on stock volts...
My 1.65vmch version maxed out @ 422FSB, both my 1.85vmch's hit 445 with ease and my current one maxed out 455 FSB after changing the northbridge cooling.

[lawrywild]

Strange, my 1.65v version maxes at 465

[The Nemesis]

Just goes to show most things in overclocking intel is luck of the draw. The 975 boards are not like DFI's nforce 4 boards where most of them consistently hit high FSB speeds. I sometimes wonder if the reason is because those boards gave you so much control over the memory settings so that once someone found something that worked we could all set things accordingly. Whereas on the intel platforms, most of theses settings are set automatically depending on the ram.

[Jupiler]

I cleaned up the last 2 pages on this topic.

Let's keep the flaming and name calling out of here, there's no need for that and it won't be tolerated by the staff.

Carry on.

[lawrywild]

Cheers Jupiler

[The Nemesis]

Deleted my post identifying user's other username:)

[pancito]

Changelog for 1705?

[Potato Salad]

What's new in the 1705 bios??
Anyone?
I don't want to be a guinea Pig..

[Toki]

Hi, I've read the notes in first page, but I've still some questions:

1) The mobo suffer of cold boot strating the system or rebooting it? It seems that bios 1503 solve this issue...

2) If I run hdds SATA and DVD burner/reader ATA (like most do) I'll have a slow post?

3) What's the average limit of the FSB with a stock mobo?

Thanks.

[lawrywild]

Hi, I've read the notes in first page, but I've still some questions:

1) The mobo suffer of cold boot strating the system or rebooting it? It seems that bios 1503 solve this issue...

2) If I run hdds SATA and DVD burner/reader ATA (like most do) I'll have a slow post?

3) What's the average limit of the FSB with a stock mobo?

Thanks.

1) No problem now with latest bios

2) Should be fine, that's how I run my drives. The front page is just a solution *IF* it posts slow.

3) 400-460

[Toki]

1) No problem now with latest bios

2) Should be fine, that's how I run my drives. The front page is just a solution *IF* it posts slow.

3) 400-460

Good, thanks.

For the FSB limit, I'll use for now a Allendale, but this limit is general for both Conroe and Allendale, right?

I can find P5B Deluxe, P5B-E Plus and P5W DH for the same price, but I don't know what to buy cuz the mobo is really different especially P5B Deluxe and P5W DH (this one have some good multimediality thing).

[Rattle]

anyone try 1705 yet ?

[Plaicd]

anyone try 1705 yet ?

I would if I could get it. The links not working for me.

[cuke2u]

Hi, still yet to read any evidence whatsoever that my PSU doesn't work with this motherboard.

Makes me laugh really when people state it won't as it is really a seasonic with a Antec sticker on it. Only have to compare external and internal pictures to realise they are exactly the same.

Perhaps you'd better start knocking seasonic then if you are going to knock Antec.

No reviews I've read say it won't work with a P5WDH deluxe, only some silly chatter on forums that amounts to no solid evidence, just old wives tales...
ChrisC

[Stelios]

Haven't noticed any differences from 1602 to 1705 . Bios options are 100% the same .

[hyperdoggy]

1705 made it more vista friendly from what some are saying in the asus forums. which now allows you to install vista trouble free.

[jimborae]

With every bios flash apart from 1503 I get the following error after setting bios settings

cmos error bad checksum press F1 to continue
Press F2 to load defaults

or words to that effect

If I press F2 it continues to boot with new settings and yes I'm clearing cmos after each flash.

Anyone know whats happening?

[lawrywild]

Hi, still yet to read any evidence whatsoever that my PSU doesn't work with this motherboard.

Makes me laugh really when people state it won't as it is really a seasonic with a Antec sticker on it. Only have to compare external and internal pictures to realise they are exactly the same.

Perhaps you'd better start knocking seasonic then if you are going to knock Antec.

No reviews I've read say it won't work with a P5WDH deluxe, only some silly chatter on forums that amounts to no solid evidence, just old wives tales...
ChrisC

Ok, well I'm not God :rolleyes:

oh and I HAVE a seasonic... works perfect

[lawrywild]

With every bios flash apart from 1503 I get the following error after setting bios settings

cmos error bad checksum press F1 to continue
Press F2 to load defaults

or words to that effect

If I press F2 it continues to boot with new settings and yes I'm clearing cmos after each flash.

Anyone know whats happening?

It's supposed to do that

[lawrywild]

Haven't noticed any differences from 1602 to 1705 . Bios options are 100% the same .

oh well, I'm not flashing then, too much damn hassle flashing the bios every week

[scaramonga]

Here is BIOS 1705 for those that missed it......hope this is OK Modz? :)

http://rapidshare.com/files/6091788/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1705.zip

[lawrywild]

I already added 1705 to my bios archive on front page, no waiting times

[Rattle]

i dont even see a reason to move from 1506

[jimborae]

It's supposed to do that


Err I think you mis-understand me mate. I mean after I've cleared the cmos then gone into to the bios to change the settings and save. On reboot I get the error and everytime after that I reboot. i.e the bios settings don't save, even if I load the bios defaults.

[lawrywild]

Err I think you mis-understand me mate. I mean after I've cleared the cmos then gone into to the bios to change the settings and save. On reboot I get the error and everytime after that I reboot. i.e the bios settings don't save, even if I load the bios defaults.

Oh seen, I thought you meant the first boot after the flash.

That's weird.. battery inserted properly? try taking it out and reseating it. do the same with the bios chip (be careful of the plastic housing)

What are you using to flash bios?

[jimborae]

With every bios flash apart from 1503 I get the following error after setting bios settings

cmos error bad checksum press F1 to continue
Press F2 to load defaults

or words to that effect

If I press F2 it continues to boot with new settings and yes I'm clearing cmos after each flash.

Anyone know whats happening?


Thanks for the reply I'll try what you suggested, although both battery & chip & are properly seated.

Using Asus update to flash from within windows, too lazy too use floppy although that could be the issue.

The exact text is

CMOS Checksum Bad
Press F1 to run SETUP
Press F2 to load Default Values & continue

This only started happenin after flashing to 1503, all subsequent flashes after that & I get this error. :confused:

[lawrywild]

too lazy

Well, that's most likely your issue right there :rolleyes:

[bzjolt]

i just bought this configuration a week ago
Processor: Core 2 E6600
Cooling: original cooler
Motherboard: ASUS P5W DH Deluxe
Graphics: eVGA GeForce 7600GT 256MB
Memory: 2*1GB G.SKILL @4-4-4-12
Power: Antec True Power Trio TP3-430W
Harddrives: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
Case:COOLER MASTER Centurion 5
DVD: asus
i connected everything and booted...the green led was on, the fan in the back and front were working, but not the CPU fan...it was still....so i quickly
disconnected it. no beep, nothing on the monitor ..
anybody has an idea what happened?
might it be a bios problem? where could i check which version of the bios i have?
thx

[jimborae]

Well, that's most likely your issue right there :rolleyes:


lol, well I'll try the traditional way & see what happens. :p:

[Babsy]

i got rid of this board too and got the striker extreme.hope that doesnt dissapoint me and gonna be my last mobo ever..well dunno about ever but we'll see so good bye to this thread for now
wish me luck :)

[Seb R]

Hi guys...

As a regular reader of this post, I thought I'd be able pick the brains of the group...

Basically as you can see in my sig, I'm running 1.55v on an E6700, only to max out at 350fsb. This is with SPD (5-5-5-15 - factory) and all other voltages at auto apart from RAM (2.4v - factory). I've included a screenie of the apparent daft temperature readings from coretemp, and generally odd behaviour... So my question is: do you guys feel, like me, that my voltage seems to be unnecessarily high for my o/c? The screenie shows that Coretemp has gone mad, and TAT shows there is some throttling - but neither of which can agree on anything! I can't even deduce if throttling is actually occurring!? Bizarre... If I try and up the other voltages to their max settings and lower the vCore, it all gets unstable and won't run past 350FSB anyway (hence the high vCore), and this board doesn't seem to want to be stable with the RAM booting at anything over 876MHz (I was hoping for 1050MHz :().

Can any of you dudes see anything vital here? I'm a little concerned at the temps always sitting at around 70°C, but it hasn't exploded thus far...

Cheers for any advice...

S

[lawrywild]

HOLY :banana::banana::banana::banana:ING :banana::banana::banana::banana:

RESEAT THAT COOLER RIGHT AWAY!!!

DID YOU USE THERMAL PASTE!?!?

[bzjolt]

yes ... the paste which came with the original cooler...
how can i reset the cooler? what do you mean?

[lawrywild]

yes ... the paste which came with the original cooler...
how can i reset the cooler? what do you mean?

I wasn't talking to you :rolleyes:

[Sparx]

Cuz I get bored.....:slap: And I like to try different combinations to see what works best. Which at this point the mem on my sig the best thus far, SPD: 4-2-3-4 RATIO: 4:5 1000Mhz. @ 2.4v
Good answer! :cool:
:)
sparx

[Sparx]

oh well, I'm not flashing then, too much damn hassle flashing the bios every week
:rotf:
sparx

[Seb R]

yeh, i used thermal paste!

basically i thought the temps were a little hot with the zalman paste that came with the cooler, then got some AS5 and put that on (which is currently on). Hardly any difference in temperature!

maybe i should add... as soon as i stop running either TAT or orthos, the temperature instantly jumps back down to 80°C or so...

[Viper999]

I am new to ocing, but unfortunately am having trouble ocing my memory. I notice that alot of folks get 1:1 timings. How do you do this? I am loading the 30% overclock profile and I get the processor to 346x9 or 3117 MHz, but the memory I get FSB DRAM 4:3 259 MHz. I think this is equiv of PC3400 and I should be able to get much more. I would think I should get PC6400 at minimum. Seems like SPD doesnt read this mem properly. Sorry if this is a bad question, but I am new to OCing. Thanks in advance for any help. Can someone save their oc profile with similar hardware and post?

[Sparx]

I am new to ocing, but unfortunately am having trouble ocing my memory. I notice that alot of folks get 1:1 timings. How do you do this? I am loading the 30% overclock profile and I get the processor to 346x9 or 3117 MHz, but the memory I get FSB DRAM 4:3 259 MHz. I think this is equiv of PC3400 and I should be able to get much more. I would think I should get PC6400 at minimum. Seems like SPD doesnt read this mem properly. Sorry if this is a bad question, but I am new to OCing. Thanks in advance for any help. Can someone save their oc profile with similar hardware and post?
You may have to set tRFC to 42.
Lawrywild can help you with this.
ALSO, go back about 4 or 5 pages and read about it on this thread.
sparx

[Viper999]

I just dl SPDTool, but am confused. Can someone walk me through exactly what I need to mod to get better perf from these simms ? Very much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

[Rattle]

larrywild
Here are my RAM settings as Memset 3.0 reports them. The tRFC is at 28. Is it suppose to be 42 regardless, because I had no problem passing 360. :shrug:
sparx

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/sparx21/MEMSET.jpg


Was wondering what the discrepancy is here with trfc of 28 or 42. Mine autos at 28, whats the problem with 28 and how does 42 help.

thanks for the clarification.

[BulldogPO]

So no sub memory timings in this bios either?

[nicepun]

So no sub memory timings in this bios either?

NOPE!!!!!

[Sparx]

Was wondering what the discrepancy is here with trfc of 28 or 42. Mine autos at 28, whats the problem with 28 and how does 42 help.

thanks for the clarification.
Rattle
I wish I could help I still don't have a handle on this, your question is my question as well.

For some setting it to 42 helps, I don't need to. I am curious what would happen if I did set it to 42 though.

sparx

[bzjolt]

i had thermal paste in the original cpu cooler...

[syne_24]

yeh, i used thermal paste!

basically i thought the temps were a little hot with the zalman paste that came with the cooler, then got some AS5 and put that on (which is currently on). Hardly any difference in temperature!

maybe i should add... as soon as i stop running either TAT or orthos, the temperature instantly jumps back down to 80°C or so...


damn that's the highest temps i ever saw on TAT and Coretemp! :eek: You need to check that thing ASAP..80C idle is NOT normal at all. Remount it and make sure you tighten it in a figure eight formation, not one side at a time.

[Yonya]

Anyone know if 1705 BIOS cures the QX6700 multiplier problem?

[Jason404]

Anyone know if 1705 BIOS cures the QX6700 multiplier problem?


I know it cures the PCI/PCIe card problem with Vista!!!

:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

[ic3m4n2005]

I`m going from P5W to P5B E+, what i like to know is if it is possible to port my Raid 0 from ICH7 to ICH8 ?
Anyone done this already ?

[SchiuZ]

Anyone know if 1705 BIOS cures the QX6700 multiplier problem?

I am interested :D. If I can I will try and tell u :D. I had uCode with 1506 and 1602 problem, I hop I will not have the same error with 1705. I have send an email to Asus support asking them why my CPU is supported (of course with the multiplier error :() in 1407 BIOS and it is not supported in the newest BIOS. Waiting for an answer...

[Rattle]

Rattle
I wish I could help I still don't have a handle on this, your question is my question as well.

For some setting it to 42 helps, I don't need to. I am curious what would happen if I did set it to 42 though.

sparx


i see, i never messed with anything but the 4-4-4-8 settings ...

[Yonya]

I am interested :D. If I can I will try and tell u :D. I had uCode with 1506 and 1602 problem, I hop I will not have the same error with 1705. I have send an email to Asus support asking them why my CPU is supported (of course with the multiplier error :() in 1407 BIOS and it is not supported in the newest BIOS. Waiting for an answer...

My QX6700 works fine with 1602 - although I can't increase the multiplier on all cores. It should work fine otherwise. there is an option you need to set in one of the screns to enable microcode updates.

I too have emailed ASUS as to whether or not this has been fixed - i'm dreading having to rip these boards out and replace them... :slap:

[ketma]

Hi,

I have been reading the manual ram timings problem this mobo has with great interest and the email lawrywild sent to Asus clearly explained what the issue is.

However, from the response, Asus are just not listening so I wonder if it's possible to raise this issue as a 'main page' issue on the parent site so it gets full exposure and hopefully a direct response as to why Asus are not able to release a BIOS with the tRFC option or an explanation as to why the board cannot set manual ram timings over 360MHz.

Sorry if this has been tried or mentioned before but I and many others bought this board for overclocking and its simply a bit of a let down after buying expensive ram...

I tried emailing Asus myself to request that my message (about the manual settings = no boot) be passed on to the BIOS engineers but alas I just got a response from ZYC telling me to increase RAM voltage.

I know a very popular website (won't mention name in case of any rules) raised BIOS issues with a Gigabyte board not so long ago and basically they (Gigabyte)delivered a superb BIOS in the end.

Cheers.

[lawrywild]

I think it's a good idea, we need to speak with Fugger I guess

[don_vercetti]

Well it would have my support behind it, the P5WDH BIOS's at the moment are really a POS for a £150 board.

[walste]

where can i DL the 1705?
i have lost my god links to the 2 pages i have had.

[bichi]

QX6700 installed on P5WDH (early MCH 1.65vdc board) - BIOS: 1705
- mild OC to 3.0G (FSB: 300)
- slight memory I/O loss; from 6290/6279 to 6023/6089
- processor a bit warmer than expected at approx 80% load, all cores
- amb temp: 21c/69.8f

TMPG XPress v4.2.3.193
- transcode MPEG2 320x480 to 720x480 DVD rate
- about 45% faster than E6700 @ 3.0G

[lawrywild]

where can i DL the 1705?
i have lost my god links to the 2 pages i have had.

1st post of this thread I uploaded it

[Yonya]

QX6700 installed on P5WDH (early MCH 1.65vdc board) - BIOS: 1705
- mild OC to 3.0G (FSB: 300)
- slight memory I/O loss; from 6290/6279 to 6023/6089
- processor a bit warmer than expected at approx 80% load, all cores
- amb temp: 21c/69.8f

Transcode MPEG2 320x480 to 720x480 DVD - TMPG XPress v4.2.3.193
about 45% faster than E6700 @ 3.0G - Elapsed Time: 32min
AMB TEMP: 21c/69.8f

Have you tried raising multpliers under this BIOS?

[bichi]

Yonya,
- have not tried raising, but did lower to x9, as a test
- did cause some OS boot issues when raising back to x10
- had to enter safe mode, Device Manager and delete registered processors
- will try raising and post later this evening

[Yonya]

Yonya,
- have not tried raising, but did lower to x9, as a test
- will try raising and post later this evening

Many thanks! If you can even get to x11 on all 4 cores (you will need to use CPU-Z to check each of the cores) I'll be over the moon!

[bichi]

Yonya,
- no joy at x11 multi with QX6700 and BIOS 1705
- can type in x11, but system ignores setting and reverts back to x10

you mention "...although I can't increase the multiplier on all cores..." on your previous post
- did you get x11 set on one or two cores with 1602?

[Pluppo]

Hi,

I have been reading the manual ram timings problem this mobo has with great interest and the email lawrywild sent to Asus clearly explained what the issue is.

However, from the response, Asus are just not listening so I wonder if it's possible to raise this issue as a 'main page' issue on the parent site so it gets full exposure and hopefully a direct response as to why Asus are not able to release a BIOS with the tRFC option or an explanation as to why the board cannot set manual ram timings over 360MHz.

Sorry if this has been tried or mentioned before but I and many others bought this board for overclocking and its simply a bit of a let down after buying expensive ram...

I tried emailing Asus myself to request that my message (about the manual settings = no boot) be passed on to the BIOS engineers but alas I just got a response from ZYC telling me to increase RAM voltage.

I know a very popular website (won't mention name in case of any rules) raised BIOS issues with a Gigabyte board not so long ago and basically they (Gigabyte)delivered a superb BIOS in the end.

Cheers.

I sent a mail to asus about the tRFC issue as well, and they said this:

Dear Valued Customer

We will probobly release new BIOS versions to this MB.

Best Regards
David Hammer
Asus Nordic TSD Support

I'm also wondering if anyone here has had good experiences with the Thermalright Ultra-120 heatsink. I just tried it after using Thermaltake Big Thyphoon, and my temps have gone up by about 5 degrees. When running stock clock, it used to be 35 on idle, now it's 40 on idle. I used the same thermal paste on both heatsinks (AS5), and I've tried reseating the Ultra-120 a couple of times.

One thing worth mentioning is that the motherboard was slightly bent when the Big Typhoon was on, maybe I should remove the cpu "cover" and see if that helps?

[Yonya]

Yonya,
- no joy at x11 multi with QX6700 and BIOS 1705
- can type in x11, but system ignores setting and reverts back to x10

you mention "...although I can't increase the multiplier on all cores..." on your previous post
- did you get x11 set on one or two cores with 1602?

Got multi raise priot to 1602 on 2 cores only. Thanks for trying Bichi!

Asus - :slapass:

[pancito]

You may have to set tRFC to 42.
Lawrywild can help you with this.
ALSO, go back about 4 or 5 pages and read about it on this thread.
sparx

i went 15 pages back and don't find nothing about this.

Have you guys use SPDTool to change tRFC to 42?

to much information going on all directions.

Should i feel lucky i can go to 425fsb? i really wanted to hit 450 stable with my 6400

[Strikez]

I sent a mail to asus about the tRFC issue as well, and they said this:



I'm also wondering if anyone here has had good experiences with the Thermalright Ultra-120 heatsink. I just tried it after using Thermaltake Big Thyphoon, and my temps have gone up by about 5 degrees. When running stock clock, it used to be 35 on idle, now it's 40 on idle. I used the same thermal paste on both heatsinks (AS5), and I've tried reseating the Ultra-120 a couple of times.

One thing worth mentioning is that the motherboard was slightly bent when the Big Typhoon was on, maybe I should remove the cpu "cover" and see if that helps?

I have the ultra 120 and my temps went down a few celcius not up. I put the thermal paste on according to a link I had seen somewhere a small amount down the center of the cpu. Are you using a recommended fan on the heat sink? I asked the sales guy what would be a good fan for the heatsink and he added it to my purchase so I don t know what type I am using. As for removing the cpu cover? if its the metal cap I would recommend against doing that. If you have a tower, rese your heat sink and let it lay flat see if the contact on the cpu is any better. With this heatsink your temps should be lower Good luck.

[monza1412]

i went 15 pages back and don't find nothing about this.

Have you guys use SPDTool to change tRFC to 42?

to much information going on all directions.

Should i feel lucky i can go to 425fsb? i really wanted to hit 450 stable with my 6400



No, you have to use memset 3.0

[Sparx]

I went from the Big Typhoon to the Ultra 120 with a very slight reduction in temps.

However I like the mounting mechanics much better with the Ultra 120 and was able to run a 1200 cfm fan vs. a 1600 with the BT to get the slightly lower temps.

I put thin washers under each fastener to get tighter compresssion with the Ultra 120.
sparx

[eagle101]

what is the best and most stable bios for this board.
im shoping too.......

[Yonya]

In case anyone was wondering about what 1705 is all about, I had an email from ASUS stating...

1) Support micro-code total size over 64KB.
2) Add uCode M016F982 for Conroe E-0 Beta CPU.

There you go!

[i_am_ugf]

It also fixes the problem of this board with 7950gx2 and Vista Installation

[eagle101]

thanks

[sam95ta]

Cuz I get bored.....:slap: And I like to try different combinations to see what works best. Which at this point the mem on my sig the best thus far, SPD: 4-2-3-4 RATIO: 4:5 1000Mhz. @ 2.4v

Corsair XMS2-5400UL 2GB(4x512MB) is this the memory that is working the best for you.

[ketma]

I sent a mail to asus about the tRFC issue as well, and they said this:

We will probobly release new BIOS versions to this MB.

Best Regards
David Hammer
Asus Nordic TSD Support



Hi,

This is a semi-positive response, but I would assume that BIOS releases come from the Taiwan or US divisions. We have seen many BIOS releases already and none have even attempted to include tREF option even at the 'test' phase.

Even if Asus intend to address this and quite possibly the most important issue with the board we need to get Asus to get a release out or the the very least give us an ETA.

Any chance you can point David to this forum/thread?

Cheers.

[nicepun]

Corsair XMS2-5400UL 2GB(4x512MB) is this the memory that is working the best for you.

For right now until I get some D9GKXs so I can conclude my theory and suspicisions.

[revenant]

My 1.65vmch version maxed out @ 422FSB, both my 1.85vmch's hit 445 with ease and my current one maxed out 455 FSB after changing the northbridge cooling.

My board tops @ 421 with 1.65 on the MCH.. gah! so how do you do the vmod to 1.85?

nm.. found one: http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=3876&s=2

[mark454]

I'm going mad trying to set this system up.

My system is:

Asus P5W DH
Asus 7900GTX
corsia value select 667 1GB x2
BIOS 1705

The problem is when I setup the system install all Asus drivers etc. When it comes to loading the nvidia driver the screen goes blank.

I have tried different BIOS and various nvidia drivers but always get a blank screen when I install the nvidia driver. I have to reset the system in safe mode then uninstall the nvidia driver to get the system back.

Can someone plz help.. Is this graphics card compatible with P5w?

Thanks

:(

[lawrywild]

Yes, it's compatible.

My GTO (identical to GTX) is flashed with GTX bios and works very very well (PEG link @ FASTER is very nice)

[mark454]

How did u flash the GTO? can I flash my card? where did u dl the bios from?

[revenant]

you can find lots of vga bioses @ www.mvktech.net.

[lawrywild]

I used the 7900GTX.ROM that johnnyliu posted a while back

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1738437&postcount=19

[mark454]

Thanks a million but the files no longer available there... :( can you provide me with another link

[lawrywild]

It is, I just downloaded it again...

You click Free at the bottom and then wait the time it says

Then you type the letters from the pic into the box and click download. (it times out if you don't type the letters in within a certain period of time)

[mark454]

COOL Thanks

[mark454]

Well I upgraded the card and installed the latest nvidia drivers and I get a blank screen! same problem... what driver are u using?

[lawrywild]

Hold on, you already had a 7900GTX bios on the card? Why did you flash it? lol

I hope you have the old bios to flash back with in event of warranty..

Anyway, tried other DVI port? Different drivers?

[mark454]

Yes I did, I tried the other DVI and drivers... it must be the card... wat driver are u using

[lawrywild]

93.71

also try 85.96, search google for em

[RTShaw]

lost most control of my fingers so pleaqe bear with me, it hurts like hell 2 type.

Hi,
i need some help please.
i have the Asus P5W DH dlx mobo ith a E6600 cpu.
2 - 500 gig hdrives sata ii
2 - 250 gig sata ii hdrives
1 - Raptor
1 - liteon DVD]
1 plextor 760A DVD burner
2 gigs Consair mem
more but that should be enough
..
set up
i have the boot raptor as SaTa1 (ICH7R) SATA3 & SATA4 the 2 500 giggers
ICH7R Ide port master = lite-on burner
--
the 2 250 giggers i have on EZRaid & EZraid2
the plextor ide dvd burner on the Jmicron ide connector PR_Eide

ICH7R defined as Raid set up the 2 500 giggers as Raid0
Jmicron setting Raid/ACHI (AHCI) whichever

Now i can see the plextor hooked to the jmicro ide as i boot and iut even shows up in the bios as a possible boot device but i dont see the drive in winbloze looking in devices i see 2 JMicron JB36X Raid drivers one with exclamation point. ist there suppose2 be another JMdriver 4 the ide DVD?

Also when i set BootRom to disabled (still with Raid setting) changes the drives i see as bootable devices and the Raotor boot drive is no longer seen in the bootable device settings..

When i set the JMcron controller mode to Basic with the plextor dvd hooked up the system just hangsforever.

i only can get into te jmicron controller bios when i plug another drive to theEsata port then i can get into the Jmicron bios butthe 2 - 250 giggers never appear only the external drive..

i have the raid sel jumper set at raid0...

any info is certainly appreciated

thank you

[don_vercetti]

Dunno if this effects anyone, but i used to get a CPU ucode error, flashed to 1705 and WOMPH, it's all gone! Happyness is.

[lawrywild]

I suspect that your uCode error was cause by no ES uCodes in bios, dunno why they would put them in 1705 though..

[don_vercetti]

Probably, who cares though, ES users rejoice, we don't have to press F1 everytime we want to boot our damn PC's!

[Redrock32]

Hey all

I've just received my new system (2 days ago) but cannot get my 4th drive connected.

this is my setup how i received from the store;

Raptor and 2 samsungs on the normal sata connectors
1 samsung on the Jmicron connector(near Cpu)

In the bios it says: not connected , 4th master

I also could not instal the Jmicron drivers from asus cd supplied with mobo.
It gives an error after rebooting, so i removed the software.
Maybe thats why i get a message after bios boot from Jmicron; it names that samsung disk and xp does start up after that.

Can anybody help me with this?
Can i connect 4 drives on this mobo, no raid just normal ?

Thanks a lot

[Acidpunk_4]

Hey umm I think i might have found a fix for people like myself with

corsair 8500C5 Ram modules :cool:

go to

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1129333

and there is a file ive done it now and my Spd tables are correct now and i can boot from SPd and its auto set to Pc8500 5-5-5-15

so ima try and go up to 400mhz and see what happens

well unfortunately no luck but on the up side at least my Spd tables actually work now

what doesnt make sense to me is that all of the ram modules that you guys are using actually have the Same IC's as teh 8500C :S

http://ramlist.ath.cx/ddr2/


I have a question btw if anyone can help me out

Atm im running my Core2 E6600 @ 333mhz*9 = 3000mhz @ 1.35 Vcore

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=144864

and the Temps are
idle
Core 1 33 oC
Core 2 33 oC

and probe reports the temerature at 24 oC - 28 oC idle

now when it goes to load while using orthos it Jumps dramatically and i was wondering wtf is up

like the CPu goes from 24oC in probe to 61
and the cores are hitting 70 im just wondering if thats ok ?

or do i need to get AS5 asap ?

[lawrywild]

by "do I need AS5", do you mean you're not using thermal paste at all?

[Acidpunk_4]

no ofcourse im using thermal paste that would be silly not to cause the cpu would probably die instantly

what im asking is should i switch to AS5 asap because of the high core temps using orthos /?

[UZ7]

no ofcourse im using thermal paste that would be silly not to cause the cpu would probably die instantly

what im asking is should i switch to AS5 asap because of the high core temps using orthos /?

What CPU Cooler are you using?

AS5 will be about 1-3C+ difference from the regular stuff, though it needs time to reach maximum conductivity.. meaning it will need couple of hundred hours for the heatsink-cpu contact to reach the full potential of the thermal paste.

If it's readily available to you, you should apply it as soon as possible along with a better cpu cooler. At first you will see little change over the other thermal paste upon applying, but after several days after the burnin/breakin period is over, you will see the temps drop. And usually when you stress test and at a low voltage, the temps aren't suppose to jump that high unless the cooler isn't sufficient.

ie:
my idle: 25-28C
stress: 40-50>C
it never goes over 50C>
@1.45V

[revenant]

I am having a lot of trouble running memory dividers with my p5w dh.. I got some nice ballisitix pc2-8000 and was thinking I would up the divider to run my mems @ 972 (rather than 778) 4:5 divider I think.. anyways, I'll be damned if I can't get it to work.. running the dimm voltage @ 2.2 and timings @ 5-5-5-15, which is spec for those @ ddr1000... anyways.. do I need to set timins by speed or something? or disable hyper path? hrm........

[ccl2006]

i am getting these errors on my mems. could the mobo be the culprit?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ccl2003/memtest_errors.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ccl2003/IMG_0066.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/ccl2003/winmemdiag.jpg

[Acidpunk_4]

What CPU Cooler are you using?

AS5 will be about 1-3C+ difference from the regular stuff, though it needs time to reach maximum conductivity.. meaning it will need couple of hundred hours for the heatsink-cpu contact to reach the full potential of the thermal paste.

If it's readily available to you, you should apply it as soon as possible along with a better cpu cooler. At first you will see little change over the other thermal paste upon applying, but after several days after the burnin/breakin period is over, you will see the temps drop. And usually when you stress test and at a low voltage, the temps aren't suppose to jump that high unless the cooler isn't sufficient.

ie:
my idle: 25-28C
stress: 40-50>C
it never goes over 50C>
@1.45V

Yeah i know what you mean i got my taste of thermal experience from my old palamino Amd back a few years ago well more than a few and regularly with my Barton

but what really gets me is that my idle temps are pretty much the same as yours and ever since i actually raised the Volts on my System to

Vcore 1.35
MCh 1.65
ICH 1.2
FSB 1.4

its been more stable and the temps have actually dropped on the Mb sensor a few degrees lol

but yeah when it jumps on load it was stable at 57degrees for a few mins then jumped randomly but i think that was quite random

Tbh im using a really crappy cooler at the moment like i havent even used the Intel one yet so i might put that on but i dunno if it would do any better as this ones fan spins a little faster at 2596 rpm and isnt the intel one 1500 rpm ?

btw when i say under load i mean ORthos on small FTT's

when it comes to games i.e Supreme commander, Company of heroes, Battle for middle earth 2, Ghost recon advanced warfighter

the temps never raise above 48oC ??

[Timmaah]

Hey, well i can overclock my e6600 to 3.0ghz on stock voltage, but in order to get ~3.5ghz i need to up the voltage to 1.5v (ive only done this for quick runs to get a superpi time) but i find it a bit odd seeing as so many other people seem to be getting around the 3.3 or more at lower voltages...

Its a ... *checks box* l624, not sure where to get the week number.

Anyway in my bios i got all the settings done and everything, and all mobo settings up on max, maximum ive been able to get was an fsb of 393x9. I also noticed that around the 380s, that putting my vcore up made no difference but putting the mch (if i remember right) made it boot to windows.


So basically i was wondering, if its worth getting a northbridge cooler and it seems that you guys recommended the AK 161 BL-S Cool Blue Fan, which brings me to my next question, how easy is it to install this?

One more n00b question... the northbridge is the part to the left of the cpu correct? So what would the thing to the north be...

[lawrywild]

Hey, well i can overclock my e6600 to 3.0ghz on stock voltage, but in order to get ~3.5ghz i need to up the voltage to 1.5v (ive only done this for quick runs to get a superpi time) but i find it a bit odd seeing as so many other people seem to be getting around the 3.3 or more at lower voltages...

Its a ... *checks box* l624, not sure where to get the week number.

Anyway in my bios i got all the settings done and everything, and all mobo settings up on max, maximum ive been able to get was an fsb of 393x9. I also noticed that around the 380s, that putting my vcore up made no difference but putting the mch (if i remember right) made it boot to windows.


So basically i was wondering, if its worth getting a northbridge cooler and it seems that you guys recommended the AK 161 BL-S Cool Blue Fan, which brings me to my next question, how easy is it to install this?

One more n00b question... the northbridge is the part to the left of the cpu correct? So what would the thing to the north be...

Consider yourself lucky that your week24 clocks that good..

I need 1.6v actual to reach 3.5 stable :rolleyes: (L624 aswell)

[JimB]

Oh so that's how you get the week...
My box says my E6600 is Batch# L628A724 made in Malaysia.
So from that I can deduce that it's a Batch A processor made in week 28?
And I'm guessing this batch doesn't overclock very well (temperature wise) based on my results.

[scaramonga]

How good is L629?.......which is mine :confused: :)

[OldGuy]

How good is L629?.......which is mine :confused: :)

I was able to get 3.8ghz on my week 29 E6600 using a Freezone CPU cooler...and 1.625v...on my Infinity 975. Haven't bothered to push this P5W with an E6700 and a monsoon II. Temps are horrible...

[flashnc]

my 28a runs 24/7 @ 1.485-1.50 @ 3600, and will hit 3.87 @ 1.57-1.575

[ntvh]

if you guys can return and wait for batch B it will be better or go to fry ask them for it...it will be better. A ver is SU.. big time.:banana: :toast:

[ntvh]

if you get very LUCKY with A you will get to 3.80 but I don't think so. unless you do phase change

[syne_24]

Consider yourself lucky that your week24 clocks that good..

I need 1.6v actual to reach 3.5 stable :rolleyes: (L624 aswell)


you need another cpu man..i got rid of my week24 as well (needed 1.56v)

[UZ7]

Yeah i know what you mean i got my taste of thermal experience from my old palamino Amd back a few years ago well more than a few and regularly with my Barton

but what really gets me is that my idle temps are pretty much the same as yours and ever since i actually raised the Volts on my System to

Vcore 1.35
MCh 1.65
ICH 1.2
FSB 1.4

its been more stable and the temps have actually dropped on the Mb sensor a few degrees lol

but yeah when it jumps on load it was stable at 57degrees for a few mins then jumped randomly but i think that was quite random

Tbh im using a really crappy cooler at the moment like i havent even used the Intel one yet so i might put that on but i dunno if it would do any better as this ones fan spins a little faster at 2596 rpm and isnt the intel one 1500 rpm ?

btw when i say under load i mean ORthos on small FTT's

when it comes to games i.e Supreme commander, Company of heroes, Battle for middle earth 2, Ghost recon advanced warfighter

the temps never raise above 48oC ??

well the intel cooler itself is a decent cooler but there are others out there that are better... the performance of a cpu cooler depends on how the quality/type of the heatsink (copper, alluminum etc...) once the heat travels to the heatsink it heats up so you it all comes down to the fan... the performance of the fan is measured in cfm... the higher the cfm the more airflow you will get

so overall what im trying to say is regardless of the rpm of the fan it all comes down to the cfm... if the cfm is higher go for that, check the airflow of both and see which one blows out the most air

yeah thats what i also meant about stress running orthos on small ffts and it never goes over 50C>

[Thasp]

I can't believe they still don't have subtimings in the BIOS.. this board is useless to me right now. I hope the DFI lanparty core 2 duo version comes out soon so I can sell this and actually overclock my memory. :(

[OldGuy]

I can't believe they still don't have subtimings in the BIOS.. this board is useless to me right now. I hope the DFI lanparty core 2 duo version comes out soon so I can sell this and actually overclock my memory. :(

Believe it bud...I've mainly had nothing but DFI boards for the past year and a half and been nothing but disappointed with the Asus boards I've tried recently...

[Acidpunk_4]

well the intel cooler itself is a decent cooler but there are others out there that are better... the performance of a cpu cooler depends on how the quality/type of the heatsink (copper, alluminum etc...) once the heat travels to the heatsink it heats up so you it all comes down to the fan... the performance of the fan is measured in cfm... the higher the cfm the more airflow you will get

so overall what im trying to say is regardless of the rpm of the fan it all comes down to the cfm... if the cfm is higher go for that, check the airflow of both and see which one blows out the most air

yeah thats what i also meant about stress running orthos on small ffts and it never goes over 50C>

well i know what CFM my other cooler does but i dont know what the Intel does

52.24 CFM thats what my current HSF does

what does the stock intel cooling do >

[TrancëJay]

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/2174/imagemxb0.jpg

That's the highest FSB I could got.

MHC: 1,75
FSB: 1,4
VCore and ICH: default

Even if I set 1,85 in MHC it can't go higher :(

Just bought P5W DH cuz my G.Skill memos are not compatible with P965 MoBos.

[WeldZilla]

I see so many people with memory issues. it ought to be fairly clear by now that G.Skill 6400HZ has NO issues when coupled with this board! It runs tight and fast. I just set it at 2.4V with a fan on it to keep it cool 3 months ago. I have messed with other settings but this mem likes the CL of 3 and the higher volts, just keep it cool. As you can see i don't set for max performance, it makes plenty. This is my main system and it lives in a nice case I designed and is full functional 24/7. I love this set up. I just hate to see so many playing musical motherboards jumping from board to board before they get all they can from what they already have. I have noticed when they get the new board that the grass is most often not any greener.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/pi32.jpg
The board and the memory get along.

[Timmaah]

Consider yourself lucky that your week24 clocks that good..

I need 1.6v actual to reach 3.5 stable :rolleyes: (L624 aswell)

So its more of a cpu wall than an fsb one? :(

Its a batch a one the l624 one i got...

That sucks... luck of the draw then, and no... its not at all stable at 3.54ghz at 1.52v meeh i shall live with it being at 3.0ghz with stock volts, still a pretty big overclock just sucks seeing all these guys getting so much higher on air cooling.

[Omarko]

guys, I am trying to OC my RAM ... its 667 and I want to run it at 800 at least ... stock volt is 1.8V, ram can handle up to 2.0 without any probs according to manufacturer.

timings are crap ... at 667 they are 5-5-5-10 and I set them manually.

if I want to run it at 800, do I need to set it to auto in BIOS ? I tried it with the above but it only booted into windows and then crash (BSOD).

I thought those timings are pretty high already ... , would loosening tRAS work? maybe 5-5-5-15 ? I was afraid to change it as I dont want to corrupt my drive (happened before).

[lawrywild]

Usually when I think my OS gets corrupt (file/folder missing error) when I switch back to stable timings it all runs fine

[Gascogne]

WeldZilla, which bios are you using?

[WeldZilla]

I am currently using 1705. I have had no problems with any bios since 1305. For me 1305, 1602 and now 1705 have been the best. I have not had 1705 long enough to know yet but, so far if there has been a best bios for my system it has been 1305. I will tell you though so far I am very happy with this new one. I'll know more in a few days.

WZ

[rpr]

I am currently using 1705. I have had no problems with any bios since 1305. For me 1305, 1602 and now 1705 have been the best. I have not had 1705 long enough to know yet but, so far if there has been a best bios for my system it has been 1305. I will tell you though so far I am very happy with this new one. I'll know more in a few days.

WZ
What week and rev CPU do you have?

[Thasp]

Believe it bud...I've mainly had nothing but DFI boards for the past year and a half and been nothing but disappointed with the Asus boards I've tried recently...

The frustrating part is that memset 3.0 does nothing. I can change all the settings to as loose as possible, hit apply, but the RAM will still mess up.. or sometimes I can't boot into windows in time to change the timings in memset to what they should be. This is G.Skill GBHZ DDR1000 D9 chips.. supposedly 4-4-4-12 at this speed. It works at lower FSB, but not at higher because I need to change subtimings but I can't because it's not in the BIOS and memset is totally useless.

clockgen doesn't work either, I followed the instructions on their website.

I don't want to use clockgen, or memset. I want a BIOS that can handle this. :(

[UZ7]

well i know what CFM my other cooler does but i dont know what the Intel does

52.24 CFM thats what my current HSF does

what does the stock intel cooling do >

not sure on the actual cfm but its the same cooler that they used for the stock p4s, here are some links to info/performance comparison:

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=2&artpage=1903&articID=433
(Info)

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=11&artpage=2191&articID=519
(Comparison)

[BenchZowner]

Here's my max stable FSB with my un-modded P5W DH Deluxe

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/310/asusp5wdhdeluxemaxstablna4.th.jpg (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asusp5wdhdeluxemaxstablna4.jpg)

[WeldZilla]

Mine is a week 29 cpu.

[Sparx]

I can't read it enlarged, anyone else?
sparx

[Timmaah]

says 470fsb... and i can read it fine.

its with an x6800 btw.

[rpr]

Mine is a week 29 cpu.
Rev A or B?

[WeldZilla]

You know I am really liking this 1705 bios it has a nice feel about it. Smooth.

WZ

[Gascogne]

Where could one download the latest Asus Probe II? I know someone posted a link on this thread but I can't seem to find it.

[lawrywild]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1864032&postcount=2350

[Sparx]

Mine is a week 29 cpu.
Weldzilla
I took a peek at your 3d05 scores with your overclock 200 mhz higher than mine it apparently indicates that the video cards are bottlenecking bench scores.
We are at the same set resolution, and I am only at 3.6 but my score is right up there with yours. :confused:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/sparx21/3d0512.jpg

sparx

[Gascogne]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1864032&postcount=2350
Thank you. :)

I tried the latest 1705 bios and manage to boot up at 401 fsb (401x9), whee 1 more point.. :stick:
It seems I need better cooling on my cpu? I have at the moment Scythe Infinity.


What kind of cooling are people using who are at 3.6Ghz or above?

[Sparx]

Thank you. :)

I tried the latest 1705 bios and manage to boot up at 401 fsb (401x9), whee 1 more point.. :stick:
It seems I need better cooling on my cpu? I have at the moment Scythe Infinity.


What kind of cooling are people using who are at 3.6Ghz or above?
I use the Thermalright Ultra 120.
I also have active cooling on the NB (factory) heat sink. Simply a 40 mm Radio Shack fan attached to the top of the HS.
sparx

[cdelong]

Where can I get the files needed to setup ACHI properly before installing XP (using F-6) like people are talking about??

I tried this:

http://www.codemonkeyx.net/node/22

I copied the txtsetup.zip file at the end of the post and unzipped it on a floppy...... after F6'ing the four drivers show up, but when i select to install the Intel ACHI driver.... it says file not found.... insert another disk....

Whats the easiest way to get my istall in ACHI and then fix the unknow devices in device manager?

[lawrywild]

Where can I get the files needed to setup ACHI properly before installing XP (using F-6) like people are talking about??

I tried this:

http://www.codemonkeyx.net/node/22

I copied the txtsetup.zip file at the end of the post and unzipped it on a floppy...... after F6'ing the four drivers show up, but when i select to install the Intel ACHI driver.... it says file not found.... insert another disk....

Whats the easiest way to get my istall in ACHI and then fix the unknow devices in device manager?

you need this

http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/T8Clearance.aspx?url=/12094/eng/f6flpy32.zip&agr=Y&ProductID=2261&DwnldID=12094&lang=eng

[monza1412]

well I tried 1705, and for me is the same s...
I mean, should we give up with this mobo, and the trfc thing?

[cdelong]

Thanks dude!!

[psy4fun]

Me too. 1705 make absolutely no difference.

well I tried 1705, and for me is the same s...
I mean, should we give up with this mobo, and the trfc thing?

[WeldZilla]

So what vid card are you using sparx? I don't quite get what you are getting at. My score is just the limit of my card. 3D05 is not a good indicator of bottleneck nor is 3D03. 3D01 and Aquamark are much better indicators.
03 and 05 are way more graphic card dependant.

WZ

[Acidpunk_4]

not sure on the actual cfm but its the same cooler that they used for the stock p4s, here are some links to info/performance comparison:

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=2&artpage=1903&articID=433
(Info)

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=11&artpage=2191&articID=519
(Comparison)

thanks for the info it was quite interesting to read that

[Eastcoasthandle]

Who has tried PC8500C5D with P5W DH using these settings?

Performance Mode: Standard
PCI Express Frequency: 100
PCI Clock Synchronization Mode: 33.33
Memory Voltage: 2.25V
FSB Termination: 1.4
MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.65V
ICH Chipset Voltage: 1.20V

[S1mon-]

Anyone can help me... I'M getting a major wall when putting my fsb above 300 even by disabling Hyperpath 3... I crank up the voltage a bit nothing exceptional vcore between 1,35 and 1,40, vMCH at 1,50 or even 1,55, vICH at 1,05 and I tried 1,20 and my Ram is not the problem... I'm running atm 300x9 with my E6600 and everything is stable 10 hours orthos without a problem... My temps are fine too even running with stock fan... the problem is really at 300 fsb no problem but 301 fsb the computer won't even turn on :(

I need help!

[Acidpunk_4]

Wow can you believe i switched to the Intel stock cooler and my Max load temps on orthos as far is 51 for the cpu and 56 for each core id say i shoulda used it from the start

Who has tried PC8500C5D with P5W DH using these settings?

Performance Mode: Standard
PCI Express Frequency: 100
PCI Clock Synchronization Mode: 33.33
Memory Voltage: 2.25V
FSB Termination: 1.4
MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.65V
ICH Chipset Voltage: 1.20V

Well i use those settings pretty much on my PC8500C5 Ram sticks
just a little lower with the mem volt set to 2.2v

When i use those settings i run my pc stable at 333mhz*9 and Ram at 1000mhz

its rock stable

though you can go higher i had it at 350 aswell and it works ok just not as fast as the 333

[BenchZowner]

Anyone can help me... I'M getting a major wall when putting my fsb above 300 even by disabling Hyperpath 3... I crank up the voltage a bit nothing exceptional vcore between 1,35 and 1,40, vMCH at 1,50 or even 1,55, vICH at 1,05 and I tried 1,20 and my Ram is not the problem... I'm running atm 300x9 with my E6600 and everything is stable 10 hours orthos without a problem... My temps are fine too even running with stock fan... the problem is really at 300 fsb no problem but 301 fsb the computer won't even turn on :(

I need help!

Hi S1mon,try with the following settings for a start:

Vcore=1.45V [ lets take CPU instability out of consideration ]
Vfsb=1.30V
Vmch=1.65V [ place a fan over the northbridge if you can ]
Vich=1.05V
HyperPath 3=Disabled
Configure RAM Timings by SPD=Enabled
PCI Express Frequency=105MHz
PCI Freq Lock=33.33MHz
RAM Div=DDR2-620 [ 1:1 ]
And shoot for 310MHz FSB

[Sparx]

So what vid card are you using sparx? I don't quite get what you are getting at. My score is just the limit of my card. 3D05 is not a good indicator of bottleneck nor is 3D03. 3D01 and Aquamark are much better indicators.
03 and 05 are way more graphic card dependant.

WZ
I was trying to say the current video cards are causing a bottleneck for our CPU speeds thats all.
I have an ATI x1900xtx.
sparx

[Acidpunk_4]

it took a while fiddling with them but now i love this speed and tbh atm

3000mhz on the Core2 is more than enough :)

when i need to ill get one of the water cooling thingy's :cool:

then ill try 3.6 and such

[S1mon-]

Hi S1mon,try with the following settings for a start:

Vcore=1.45V [ lets take CPU instability out of consideration ]
Vfsb=1.30V
Vmch=1.65V [ place a fan over the northbridge if you can ]
Vich=1.05V
HyperPath 3=Disabled
Configure RAM Timings by SPD=Enabled
PCI Express Frequency=105MHz
PCI Freq Lock=33.33MHz
RAM Div=DDR2-620 [ 1:1 ]
And shoot for 310MHz FSB

I will test this out tomorrow night :)

Thanks

[andrvas]

Hi, was wondering if any of you guys have mounted watercooling on the P5W DH? If so, what waterblock did you use? I've just installed a 8800GTS, and the back of the card dissipates a lot of heat, and the NB which is right above gets HOT! So I'm thinking of watercooling it, but so far I haven't found a watercooling block thats compatible :(

[Timmaah]

Hey, well i can overclock my e6600 to 3.0ghz on stock voltage, but in order to get ~3.5ghz i need to up the voltage to 1.5v (ive only done this for quick runs to get a superpi time) but i find it a bit odd seeing as so many other people seem to be getting around the 3.3 or more at lower voltages...

Its a ... *checks box* l624, not sure where to get the week number.

Anyway in my bios i got all the settings done and everything, and all mobo settings up on max, maximum ive been able to get was an fsb of 393x9. I also noticed that around the 380s, that putting my vcore up made no difference but putting the mch (if i remember right) made it boot to windows.


So basically i was wondering, if its worth getting a northbridge cooler and it seems that you guys recommended the AK 161 BL-S Cool Blue Fan, which brings me to my next question, how easy is it to install this?

One more n00b question... the northbridge is the part to the left of the cpu correct? So what would the thing to the north be...
bump

[STaRGaZeR]

Hi, was wondering if any of you guys have mounted watercooling on the P5W DH? If so, what waterblock did you use? I've just installed a 8800GTS, and the back of the card dissipates a lot of heat, and the NB which is right above gets HOT! So I'm thinking of watercooling it, but so far I haven't found a watercooling block thats compatible :(

I´m using this one, wonderful waterblock

http://www.coolmod.com/tienda/product_fotos.php?prd_id=2464

[EVILCOSMOS]

Timmah

I'm afraid not matter what you do you won't get it to work at that frequency with a lower voltage. I had a week 24 and it had the same problem.:(

The only solution is to sell it and buy a 'newer' week, or if your very lucky a L6XXB batch CPU. i just got a L630B and it does 3.3Ghz with auto volts (1.208 volts) orthos stable.

[rpr]

Timmah

I'm afraid not matter what you do you won't get it to work at that frequency with a lower voltage. I had a week 24 and it had the same problem.:(

The only solution is to sell it and buy a 'newer' week, or if your very lucky a L6XXB batch CPU. i just got a L630B and it does 3.3Ghz with auto volts (1.208 volts) orthos stable.
I have an "A" E6600 that can almost do that (3.24Ghz with Auto volts) but it won't do a bit more regardless of any volktage increases.

I'm about to try to sell my "A" and try to get a "B", so I would like to know what your "B" CPU can do max Orthos stable with increased voltage?

[psy4fun]

But... every B is a good overclock candidate?

[phogger]

Wow can you believe i switched to the Intel stock cooler and my Max load temps on orthos as far is 51 for the cpu and 56 for each core id say i shoulda used it from the start

Well i use those settings pretty much on my PC8500C5 Ram sticks
just a little lower with the mem volt set to 2.2v

When i use those settings i run my pc stable at 333mhz*9 and Ram at 1000mhz

its rock stable

though you can go higher i had it at 350 aswell and it works ok just not as fast as the 333


I have my E6600 running 356*9 ~ 3200 on my P5WDH Dlx with Corsair 8500C5 and have no stability issues. Curious about your tests that show ". . . not as fast as the 333."

tia/phogger

[EVILCOSMOS]

rpr

If your A chip can do just over 3.2 on stock volts then thats good :up: and you should probably keep hold of it.

I don't know why it cant go higher without extra volts, have you disabled hyperpath 3 in bios and tried a lower ram setting/higher volts on ram or enabling ram timings by SPD?

psy4fun

I couldn't say if every B chip is a good clocker, on average they seem very slightly better, but the newer A chips are probably just as good. At the end of the day its really down to the luck of the draw if chip you get is a good clocker.

[WeldZilla]

Thought I would post shots of my settings and a cpuz I just submitted so you would know just where I set the "Dials" so to speak. Oh and for what it's worth I am running 2 x 160Wd HDDs in a raid0 array on the Intel ICH7 chip
Now here are my settings this morning.:fact:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/IMG_2973a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/IMG_2972a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/todays.jpg

I have also disabled all Q-fans and have done pretty much the same things as most other people to help this board along. you will note that My pci Frequency is set at 105. I run it anywhere from 100 to 113 with little or no perceptible difference.
Hope this helps at least some people.

WZ

[Sparx]

My E6600 is an : L630A768, I am sure it could do more but the additional heat might cause me extra work! Ok I'm lazy. :toast:

I have read that the cpu's vary within steppings (?) or, that it is hit-or-miss for overclocking ceilings from chip to chip.

sparx


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/sparx21/3d0512.jpg

WeldZilla-

I am curious about the Turbo Mode. Have you compared benches with it set to Standard?
TIA
sparx

[psy4fun]

WeldZilla, can you post the temps, please?

Have you tried to run your system on air before?



Thought I would post shots of my settings and a cpuz I just submitted so you would know just where I set the "Dials" so to speak. Oh and for what it's worth I am running 2 x 160Wd HDDs in a raid0 array on the Intel ICH7 chip...

[Eastcoasthandle]

Wow can you believe i switched to the Intel stock cooler and my Max load temps on orthos as far is 51 for the cpu and 56 for each core id say i shoulda used it from the start



Well i use those settings pretty much on my PC8500C5 Ram sticks
just a little lower with the mem volt set to 2.2v

When i use those settings i run my pc stable at 333mhz*9 and Ram at 1000mhz

its rock stable

though you can go higher i had it at 350 aswell and it works ok just not as fast as the 333

I still believe

Performance Mode: Standard
PCI Express Frequency: 100
PCI Clock Synchronization Mode: 33.33
Memory Voltage: 2.25V
FSB Termination: 1.4
MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.65V
ICH Chipset Voltage: 1.20V

Works best for PC8500C5/C5D IMO!!

[WeldZilla]

I have not ever booted with memory on anything but turbo. I have not ran an air cooled computer since December of 2001. I have built lots of air-cooled systems for customers but I have never pushed them like I do my own.
It is a very cool morning here this morning so I am running nice and cool at 3825mhz I'll post my idle shot shot.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/coolrunning-1.jpg

Depending on the temp outside I will run as low as 16C to as warm as 32C at idle. And from 50C to 60C under load. I get my cooling air from outside in winter and from AC in summer. you see WeldZilla 2 Started out a standard Big enermax case. I cut it apart and welded it back together with my design for the ultimate case. At least for me and my set up. Here are a few shots of how it all works. Don't want to make this a case mod thread but it makes for great cooling system.
This:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/1.jpg
then This
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/5.jpg
I used a circular saw with a fiber metal blade
Then this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/20.jpg
Became this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/IMG_1893a.jpg
With this mounted on it it's back which used to be the right side when it was a standard case.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/IMG_1876.jpg
With this hooked to the other end
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/IMG_2974a.jpg I have a weather cover for it to keep rain and leves and everything else from getting chewed up and spit into my rad. It blows so hard that the 120mm fan on the bottom of my case is just for show cuz it moves virtually no air. Shut it off and it runs backwards. with this set up if it is freezing ouside the freezing air is passing through my rad and into my case. It keeps everything cold. I have shot my case with a temp gun and seen it register 0 celcius. my mem and northridge are actually cold to the touch. the 80mm fan is just to help direct that wind storm into my mem and NB. I would say it is working quite well. Remember it is all very serious good fun. I just can wait til it gets -10 0r 15C this winter. Hey the fan blows so hard that I had to block off the air holes in the door of the case below the drives cuz it was freezing me out!!
I noticed that shot of my case shows where my 80mm fan used to be. Here is how I have it configured now.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/jas.jpg
OK igot some numbers now for memory on turbo and on standard

same settings as post above 425 , 1:1 settings @ 3-3-3-5

Standard

Sanndra
Int buffered 8580 Turbo Int Buffered 8594
Float 8573 Turbo Float 8567
Everest
Read 10,220 Turbo Read 10,247
write 3203 Turbo Write 3239
Latency 40.7 Turbo Latency 40.7

Super pi Turbo Super pi
1M 13.236 s Turbo 1M 13.220

Hey that's it for now a million other things to get done!!
WZ

[Acidpunk_4]

I have my E6600 running 356*9 ~ 3200 on my P5WDH Dlx with Corsair 8500C5 and have no stability issues. Curious about your tests that show ". . . not as fast as the 333."

tia/phogger

Umm well i ran a few memory read and write tests and the 333mhz Bus was always faster in every respect i didnt understand why but i think its to do with the fact the number is something easier to divide

though im not sure try testing it urself and see

[Sparx]

Weldzilla,
Great post, great job. :toast:
You a little crazier then I am. :D I have to admit I have disassembled a case or two to build up a liquid cool. Lots of rivets to remove and reset, but it all works if you start with a good case.

I have not run a duct outside as yet, might suck in a scorpion or two?

sparx

[psy4fun]

WeldZilla, excelent result! And very well organized case, I must admit.

As more I read this forum, more I think I need a WC...

[WeldZilla]

Hey sparx that fan will thoroughly chop them up before the get more chopping going through the radiator. We had a small hatch of mosquito eaters and about 10 of them got to close to the intake. When I vacuumed them out they were pretty finely chopped.

psy4fun I think water-cooling is a great all around solution to cooling. you can get some nice clocks and still have your system look like a system. All neat and tidy inside a case. I my 5 years I have had no problems once the system passed the 24 hour test. I had one eheim pump that had a hair-line crack and leaked only a dribble but hey it was a leak. I got a replacement and it is still performing today. My first Swiftech 6002-775 water block leaked
where the bottom was soldered on to the body. Man it was barely a drop every couple hours but that is a killer. So I returned it also now Swiftech was sure it was some weird mistake on my part and got a little indignant then they got the block and sent me another with an apology. So once in the system I have never had a problem. I never run a closed system either so no pressure ever builds in it. Or so no vacuum ever is created from the water getting extremely cold and shrinking down so your system tries to suck air through every connection. Hey if you decide to go the water way I will lend any assistance I can.

WZ

[phogger]

Umm well i ran a few memory read and write tests and the 333mhz Bus was always faster in every respect i didnt understand why but i think its to do with the fact the number is something easier to divide

though im not sure try testing it urself and see


Thanks. It's worth a test, though I hope to go faster. . . .:D

I have to wait for some time to install better air. . .

phogger

[LordX]

Hey all. I have been OC'ed at 3.8GHZ on my e6700 for a while now, and everything was running stable.

All of a sudden the other day my system starts randomly REBOOTING... No BSOD's or anything like that, just BANG and it restarts.

I spent hours checking everything from the ram to the HDD's and cables to see what was up and everything was testing out ok.

I finally found an article on these xtreme forums that details how to remove the heatsyncs on the north and south bridge and use good thermal paste and re-apply the heatsyncs...

THAT was it! My north bridge was overheating and sending my system into CHAOS..

IF YOU OWN A P5W DH, YOU SHOULD DEFINATELY DO THIS.... sorry I dont have the link handy, but I am sure someone here can put it up.

My system is running smoother than ever, and I can prolly OC higher is I wanted to now that thats fixed.

I hope this helps SOMEONE.

LordX

[Acidpunk_4]

Thanks. It's worth a test, though I hope to go faster. . . .:D

I have to wait for some time to install better air. . .

phogger

yeah i understand but without redoing the Nb and Sb i cant atm and i need better cooling also

but the read and write times and even latency are just quicker at 333 with 1000mhz on the DDR i find

[Banya]

I'm having some strange problems OCing with my P5W DH.

If I overclock at all, even to 300fsb, my windows theme will change to "modified theme" (using the bubbly XP bars) whereas it normally is in windows classic. I change settings back to stock, it works fine.
Why OCing would affect that is beyond me...

Also, this has not happened every time, but any 2d graphics would be corrupt, in that my desktop would have either a blue or green hue. However, running a 3d game was fine and did not have the hue. To fix this I had to reinstall the catalyst drivers, simply going back to stock settings did not fix it.

Bios settings changed:

FSB: 300mhz
Performance Mode: Standard (tried auto too)
PCI-E: 100mhz
PCI: 33.33mhz
Memory Freq: DDR2-800
Hyper path 3: disabled


Here's my setup:

E6400
Radeon X1900 XT 512mb
1gb Mushkin SP2-6400 5-5-5-12
Bios 1602

[Acidpunk_4]

well if im right quite simply its cause you have left the windows visual effects to automatically select what is best for your computer ?

just right click my computer and press advanced performance settings and select best for performance if you prefer the classic view i think that should do it

but if im wrong correct me someone ?

[Gascogne]

LordX, what kind of cpu cooling are you using?

[ChaosAngel]

I'm having some strange problems OCing with my P5W DH.

If I overclock at all, even to 300fsb, my windows theme will change to "modified theme" (using the bubbly XP bars) whereas it normally is in windows classic. I change settings back to stock, it works fine.
Why OCing would affect that is beyond me...

Also, this has not happened every time, but any 2d graphics would be corrupt, in that my desktop would have either a blue or green hue. However, running a 3d game was fine and did not have the hue. To fix this I had to reinstall the catalyst drivers, simply going back to stock settings did not fix it.

Bios settings changed:

FSB: 300mhz
Performance Mode: Standard (tried auto too)
PCI-E: 100mhz
PCI: 33.33mhz
Memory Freq: DDR2-800
Hyper path 3: disabled


Here's my setup:

E6400
Radeon X1900 XT 512mb
1gb Mushkin SP2-6400 5-5-5-12
Bios 1602

I used to get the same - I have 100% solid O/C but kept getting dropped back to the Toys 'R' Us Windows XP default theme.

The key is to disable the themes service.

(Before starting set your theme to Windows Classic).

Start > Run > services.msc

Locate the Themes service from the list and right click > Properties.

First Stop the service and then change Startup Type to Disabled.

Say goodbye to the horrific Windows default theme.

If you ever want it back just return the startup status to Automatic.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

CA.

[Timmaah]

Timmah

I'm afraid not matter what you do you won't get it to work at that frequency with a lower voltage. I had a week 24 and it had the same problem.:(

The only solution is to sell it and buy a 'newer' week, or if your very lucky a L6XXB batch CPU. i just got a L630B and it does 3.3Ghz with auto volts (1.208 volts) orthos stable.


Arrrgh! omg.. that sucks so much :( Typical of me to get the crappy week one... IN all fairness i was surprised my pc booted up first time i built it, knowing my luck i probably wouldve severely damaged it. Maybe in the future when a friend has an e6600 i can swap it... for now, ill have to stay with 3ghz on stock volts :(

[Timmaah]

hmm...

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9950/6600ez3.png

that seems to show of some people managing to get their week 24 batch a cpus to 3.6ghz so it seems that it is indeed luck of the draw, i may just buy northbridge coolers knowing how dodgy asus have fitted these ones.

So my question... the northbridge is the component west of the cpu?

[Severance]

I'm having some strange problems OCing with my P5W DH.

If I overclock at all, even to 300fsb, my windows theme will change to "modified theme" (using the bubbly XP bars) whereas it normally is in windows classic. I change settings back to stock, it works fine.
Why OCing would affect that is beyond me...

Also, this has not happened every time, but any 2d graphics would be corrupt, in that my desktop would have either a blue or green hue. However, running a 3d game was fine and did not have the hue. To fix this I had to reinstall the catalyst drivers, simply going back to stock settings did not fix it.

Bios settings changed:

FSB: 300mhz
Performance Mode: Standard (tried auto too)
PCI-E: 100mhz
PCI: 33.33mhz
Memory Freq: DDR2-800
Hyper path 3: disabled


Here's my setup:

E6400
Radeon X1900 XT 512mb
1gb Mushkin SP2-6400 5-5-5-12
Bios 1602

I have a graphics problem when i overclock as well. Using ati 1950s xtx in crossfire and sometimes i get wierd squares all over the screen when tring to play 3d games. If i disable 1 vid card it goes away. If i reinstall the graphic drivers it will fix the problem for a day or 2 but always comes back. Pci is set to 100 and 33 in bios...does not help.

[Pluppo]

When I installed my second graphics card to run in crossfire, I started having all sorts of weird problems too. My computer would lock up or reboot, the mouse would get stuck or start moving and clicking by itself. Lots of weird things happened. I went back to stock speeds and the same problems where still there.

Then I changed the northbridge heatsink for a Thermalright HR-5 and now all problems are gone.

Have you tried removing the covers on the northbridge and southbridge? Maybe just changing the thermal paste and removing the covers will fix your problems...

[Banya]

I'll try disabling the windows theme service, I don't use themes anyways.

The thing about the gfx oddities is what worries me more. I would have assumed it was a video card thing, but it may be a northbridge issue?

Is it difficult to remove the northbridge heatsink? (i.e. is it firmly adhered to the chip, are there clips on the back of the motherboard that I'd need to remove, etc?)

[Aprocrypha]

I'm having a problem with my Asus P5W Dh Deluxe, NO POST, NO Beeps, tried flashing with Crash Free Utility (flash drive) and Asus motherboard Cd no response from system, when memory is taken out, receiving error beeps.
Tried every single bios version in Crash Free Bios no response at all from system..
Any help needed. Urgent

[Severance]

When I installed my second graphics card to run in crossfire, I started having all sorts of weird problems too. My computer would lock up or reboot, the mouse would get stuck or start moving and clicking by itself. Lots of weird things happened. I went back to stock speeds and the same problems where still there.

Then I changed the northbridge heatsink for a Thermalright HR-5 and now all problems are gone.

Have you tried removing the covers on the northbridge and southbridge? Maybe just changing the thermal paste and removing the covers will fix your problems...


yes all covers are off and i am water cooling the NB chilled at about -10 so i dont think thats the problem for me.
1 question i do have is... cpu is running at -9 idle -1 loaded but motherboard still shows about 15 degrees. Is the motherboard heat sensor on nothbridge? because both are on the same water loop.

[Severance]

I'm having a problem with my Asus P5W Dh Deluxe, NO POST, NO Beeps, tried flashing with Crash Free Utility (flash drive) and Asus motherboard Cd no response from system, when memory is taken out, receiving error beeps.
Tried every single bios version in Crash Free Bios no response at all from system..
Any help needed. Urgent

Try using different ram. If you are trying to boot with ram that needs 2+ volts then it usually wont post.

[Aprocrypha]

I am using Ultra DDR-2 PC2 4200 1gb and frankly the system was running fine, booting with no issues, i have not changed a thing and all sudden it stops working. How is that possible,

How also does Crash Free Bios work?
I have tried it countless times and no response from computer.
The Mobo book says I should be getting a message when updating from Mobo Cd but I get nothing, nothing either from flash drive.

I would love to exhaust all my options before RMA, I live all the way in the Caribbean.

My Specs:
Asus P5W Dh Deluxe
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 @ 2.13ghz
Xion Supernova Atx Case with 450Watts PS
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 SATA11 320gb
Evga-eGeforce 7600GT KO 256MB
Ultra PC2-4200 533Mhz 1GB

[JZX100]

P5W DH hangs up when installing windows vista or open solaris if u have a TV Card.

Does anyone had the same problem?

Got a Leadtek Winfast DV2000 and i had to remove it in order to install Vista.

[Sparx]

I am using Ultra DDR-2 PC2 4200 1gb and frankly the system was running fine, booting with no issues, i have not changed a thing and all sudden it stops working. How is that possible,

How also does Crash Free Bios work?
I have tried it countless times and no response from computer.
The Mobo book says I should be getting a message when updating from Mobo Cd but I get nothing, nothing either from flash drive.

I would love to exhaust all my options before RMA, I live all the way in the Caribbean.

My Specs:
Asus P5W Dh Deluxe
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 @ 2.13ghz
Xion Supernova Atx Case with 450Watts PS
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 SATA11 320gb
Evga-eGeforce 7600GT KO 256MB
Ultra PC2-4200 533Mhz 1GB

Do you by chance have another power supply to try? 450 watt is on the light side. At least test the power supply with a PS tester.
sparx

[monza1412]

Anyone using Geil memory in this mobo...
I want to buy this ones: geil ultra GX22GB6400UDC

http://www.geilusa.com/proddetail.asp?linenumber=74

but I don´t know if I will have the spd bug with them, so any input is welcome.

[JokerCPoC]

Flash 1503 Bios and try these settings:

CPU Frequency: 400MHz
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800MHz (1:1)
Performance Mode: Standard
PCI Express Frequency: 101
PCI Clock Synchronization Mode: 33.33
Memory Voltage: 2.25V
CPU Vcore Voltage: 1.5v *if it doesnt boot keep upping it till it boots; if it does boot run orthos an hour, if it fails then go back up more vcore, if it doesnt then go back lower it a bit and rerun orthos
FSB Termination: 1.4
MCH Chipset Voltage: 1.65V *you have the older board no 1.85vmch, avoid running divider for your ram @ 1000; some board need 1.75v to get stable with that
ICH Chipset Voltage: AUTO
Digital Home Mode: Disabled

Under Advanced Chipset:

DRAM Timings by SPD: Manual (use rated timing such as 4-4-4-12 etc..)
DRAM ECC Mode: Disabled
Hyper Path 3: Disabled
DRAM Throttling Threshold: Enabled
*All PEG Settings AUTO*

Under advanced CPU settings:

Microcode Updation: Enabled
Virtualization Technology: Enabled
*Everything else: Disabled*

Under device settings:

1394 Controller: Disabled
PCIE GbE LAN 1 or 2: Disabled (the one you're not using)
Jmicron SATA: Disabled (if not use)
Serial Port Address: Disabled

All I could locate was 1305(stock for My P5W), 1407, 1506 and 1602, My cpu is getting ucode errors on 1506 and 1602, I even tried 1601 and It saw onlly 4Mb of L2 out of 8. 1602 has a lock on the multi @ 10, Right now I'm using 1506 which still throws up a ucode error on boot which requires one to press F1 or no automatic booting beyond that, Microcode updation has and always was enabled. So My C2Q will boot into XP x64 at 3.2GHz and vcore is @ 1.4, Temp is at 36C @ full load runnin SetiBoinc. Oh and I did find a website with 1503 and a new one too, 1705.... (It's on the 2nd page)
http://www.box.net/public/rtamil9x9e#main

[jimborae]

Anyone using Geil memory in this mobo...
I want to buy this ones: geil ultra GX22GB6400UDC

http://www.geilusa.com/proddetail.asp?linenumber=74

but I don´t know if I will have the spd bug with them, so any input is welcome.

Yes I have tried them. Dont bother, spd bug and no support from Geil. :(

[OneyedK]

I would love to exhaust all my options before RMA, I live all the way in the Caribbean.

Maybe it sounds silly, but did you try to clear cmos (jumper) for at least 30 seconds with the psu cable unhooked?
Don't forget to put the jumper back in the default position before hooking up the power cables and booting...

And, as Sparx mentioned, check your psu or try using another one.
450W is more than enough, even for OC with an E6400-system, but it has to be working ;-)

[monza1412]

Yes I have tried them. Dont bother, spd bug and no support from Geil. :(


ok thanks then.
By the way, this memory has micron chips in it, anyone knows?

[gaddster]

Yes I have tried them. Dont bother, spd bug and no support from Geil. :(

I also have these RAMS. Forget setting manual timings if you're running a 'high' FSB!

[NghtShd]

P5W DH hangs up when installing windows vista or open solaris if u have a TV Card.

Does anyone had the same problem?

Got a Leadtek Winfast DV2000 and i had to remove it in order to install Vista.

Update to BIOS 1705.

[Malk4vi4n]

I got a problem with my P5WDH Deluxe :(

It won't go up 320FSB with DRAM Timings by SPD on manual mode.
With DRAM Timings by SPD in auto mode it pass orthos ar 415FSB.

NO, it's not the memory, I was able to set it to DDR2 950 4-4-4-12 :D with some memory multipliers (not bad for value ram).

Thanks in advance

[cholfa]

I also have these RAMS. Forget setting manual timings if you're running a 'high' FSB!

How high did you get with manual timings?
Thx

[Eastcoasthandle]

Why are the fans sold separate? In any case I am doing 3:5 ratio. This ram is fast even though it's still on the 800 strap! One note, if this ram is not running at it's rated speed of 8500 it will slow down the P5W DH. You don't get the full effect of this ram until you get it at it's rated speed!

Here are some pics
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/PC8500/PC8500_CPUZ.jpg
CPU-Z

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/PC8500/8500C5D_1704_RAR.jpg
WinRAR (ram test) 1704

http://tinyurl.com/yexu92
Everest benchmark test

Hyper Path 3: Disabled

[Eastcoasthandle]

Anyone else find any success with this ram using P5W DH?