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dinos22

08-02-2006, 07:59 PM

BIG NEWS!!!!

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/20060802/dell-amd-nvidia.htm

This is good for both AMD and Intel end users.................price cuts all round hehehe

Looks like Dell got a good deal with AMD...........Intel's gonna be pissed now :) >>> price drops pls for Conroe heheheh

"In line with recent investor speculation," Pacific Crest’s Michael McConnell said, "we have confirmed that Dell plans to broaden its supplier relationship with AMD in the second half of 2006."

He says Dell is already preparing desktop computers based around AMD's Athlon-64 processor, which are targeted towards the consumer markets. These systems are expected to ship in the third fiscal quarter, which ends October.

VulgarHandle

08-02-2006, 08:10 PM

let's hope AMD can keep up with volume should they sell good, more sells = lower prices = PRICE WARS!!

nn_step

08-02-2006, 09:08 PM

This is wonderful news :D

Kanavit

08-02-2006, 09:18 PM

holy cow, i actually might consider buying Dell now? this is sweet news, finally!:toast:

[cTx]Philosophy

08-02-2006, 09:22 PM

WOW, I wonder how ATI is feeling right now, it seeems like the were bought and thrown in the back of the closet?

Any news of AMD's plans for ATI?

arisythila

08-02-2006, 09:34 PM

I believe Dell buys most of thier mainboards from Intel.. So Maybe if Dell does business with AMD, They can sell thier mainboards aswell... Double wammy.

~Mike

[TAG]Imp

08-03-2006, 12:19 AM

wow, dell has bad timing...

WeStSiDePLaYa

08-03-2006, 12:40 AM

Imp']wow, dell has bad timing...

why do you say that? they have perfect timing. amd just put through huge price cuts.

dell now has a chance to make good profit by selling good performing pcs with cheap chips.

common users dont need, or want to pay for conroe, and with such cheap A64 prices, why would they.

average dell consumers want bang for buck, and amd can provide that right now to dell.

alpha0ne

08-03-2006, 01:01 AM

What are all those funny looking things I can see out the window flying all over the place :confused:

Just a sec, I'll put my glasses on (yes, I am a geek ;) )

OHHH MY GOD........THE SKY IS FULL OF PIGS

[TAG]Imp

08-03-2006, 02:19 AM

why do you say that? they have perfect timing. amd just put through huge price cuts.

dell now has a chance to make good profit by selling good performing pcs with cheap chips.

common users dont need, or want to pay for conroe, and with such cheap A64 prices, why would they.

average dell consumers want bang for buck, and amd can provide that right now to dell.
yeah, i guess... but it seems funny that they stop doing intel only RIGHT when they take the performance crown back... and also, on the bang for the buck thing, you have to take into account Dell-Intel deals, they don't buy at normal prices...

duploxxx

08-03-2006, 02:53 AM

Imp']yeah, i guess... but it seems funny that they stop doing intel only RIGHT when they take the performance crown back... and also, on the bang for the buck thing, you have to take into account Dell-Intel deals, they don't buy at normal prices...

dell don't care about the performance crown... they care about mid lowend sales. intel changed the significact price advantage from dell due to its global sales system. so there is no huge profit anymore for dell just to go intel-only. now that they have less profit they will try to gain market with adding amd to the portfolio... simple as that.

oh btw they plan to sell 1.2milj amd systems in q3. thats before end of oktober. that's about 16-17% of the desktop/servers sales in 1 Q

nn_step

08-03-2006, 04:57 AM

Imp']wow, dell has bad timing...
Why? AMD chipsets are often cheaper than Intel chipsets. Give equal if not better stock performance. and with the recent price cuts they are a far better value for the buck than Conroe. Remember these are not overclocking PCs. But Dells.

nn_step

08-03-2006, 05:52 AM

Lets see you can buy a Via chipset for AMD as cheap at $7
The Cheapest Chipset For Conroe is $50. Wow the Cheapest Intel is over 8 times more expensive. Boy they really will rip that price point a new one :rolleyes:

[XC] Lead Head

08-03-2006, 05:52 AM

:ROTF:

Yeah, right. Keep telling yourself that.

When OEM boards come out that support Core 2, AMD is going to lose it's only advantage (higher MB prices).

Even the $60 Foxconn,ECS, gigabyte, epox,etc... AM2 boards that are still very reliabile and offer great performence?

EDIT: To back nn up, Via chipsets them selves are good, but the driver support is a bit iffy

nn_step

08-03-2006, 06:03 AM

LOL - seems you STILL can't get past that ONLY advantage that AMD has. MB prices.

We are one week after Core 2 launch, when prices are going to be their highest, and that's all you have to say?

Buy a VIA chipset? LOL
Via may not be the best, they are still reasonable. Atleast they are FAR superior to Intel's Oem Chipsets. Which currently don't support PCIe or AGP on the low-end. Infact Oems use Retail Intel chipset for their Highend inorder for PCIe and AGP support

WeStSiDePLaYa

08-03-2006, 09:07 AM

LOL - seems you STILL can't get past that ONLY advantage that AMD has. MB prices.

We are one week after Core 2 launch, when prices are going to be their highest, and that's all you have to say?

Buy a VIA chipset? LOL

you cant seem to grasp the fact that anyone buying a dell pc has no intentions, and most likely no idea of overclocking.

so why would a dell buyer want to spend more on a conroe?

Starscream

08-03-2006, 09:37 AM

Hey, no need to get snippy. :nono:

You can make your point and still be polite. :stick:

I simply said that:
1) clock for clock Core 2 is faster than A64 X2
2) AMD's price advantage, when you adjust for the higher IPC of Core 2, is non-existant.
3) AMD's ONLY significant price advantage right now is the cost of motherboards. Once we see non-intel chipsets and OEM boards, that advantage will disappear.

no insult but ur just seeing this from a totaly wrong standpoint.

The majority of the people that buy at Dell dont care that Core 2 is faster clock per clock.
AMD chipsets r cheaper RIGHT NOW. Yes most likely There will be cheap Intel chipsets form another party but they aint here right now.

only a very small percentile of the people that buy Dell are gamers or whatever.
the majority are companys that need a PC that can run Office and so on usualy no demanding progs will be ran on them.

Yes Core2 is better them AMD64 but Dell doesnt care they care about wich package is cheaper right now.
further Dell will want to make the deals now for the CPu, Chipsets etc wich will be in them AMD PCs.

nn_step

08-03-2006, 10:07 AM

brentpresley stop being a intel fanboy and accept reality

[TAG]Imp

08-03-2006, 12:05 PM

Starscream

08-03-2006, 02:36 PM

Well, there is one thing that you guys probably haven't taken into account.

Dell (and HP to a lesser extent) get Intel's CPUs SO MUCH cheaper than the 1000 tray price (probably in the neighborhood of 30-35% off those prices). On top of Intel's already lowered prices, that is some serious discounts that MORE than make up for any differences in the boards.

And considering that AMD is not yet at 65nm, I seriously doubt they can offer Dell a sweeter deal than Intel.

Props to Dell though for putting Intel through the ringer and getting some leverage on them.

Yes Intel has huge cash reserves, yes intel has more capactiy and can play way more with CPu prices then AMD can we all know that it isnt a thing that has to be said.
BUT there has to be a reason why Dell is going to launch several AMD PCs in the 2nd half of this year.

common Dell is a company that wants ot make profit above all else and they chose to present AMD laptops and Desktops soon so why?

Atm retail and OEm speaking a Intel package will cost Dell more then a AMD package (chipset and CPu etc all put together).
yes in the past Intel often sold their stuff to Dell for a low price but either AMD went below that price and made themselves very attractive or Intel decided to force Dell to pay the same price as others do and not give them a sweetdeal.

cause in the end of the day not even you can get aroudn the fact that Dell decided to put out AMD based desktops and Dell will only have done such a thing if AMD was the more profitable way togo

[TAG]Imp

08-03-2006, 02:38 PM

Yes Intel has huge cash reserves, yes intel has more capactiy and can play way more with CPu prices then AMD can we all know that it isnt a thing that has to be said.
BUT there has to be a reason why Dell is going to launch several AMD PCs in the 2nd half of this year.

common Dell is a company that wants ot make profit above all else and they chose to present AMD laptops and Desktops soon so why?

Atm retail and OEm speaking a Intel package will cost Dell more then a AMD package (chipset and CPu etc all put together).
yes in the past Intel often sold their stuff to Dell for a low price but either AMD went below that price and made themselves very attractive or Intel decided to force Dell to pay the same price as others do and not give them a sweetdeal.

cause in the end of the day not even you can get aroudn the fact that Dell decided to put out AMD based desktops and Dell will only have done such a thing if AMD was the more profitable way togo
People were demanding it, due to the performance crown that amd HAD... which was why it's kind of bad timing IMO

nn_step

08-03-2006, 02:41 PM

Imp']People were demanding it, due to the performance crown that amd HAD... which was why it's kind of bad timing IMO
What Dumb :banana::banana::banana::banana: buys a Dell for performance :confused:

[TAG]Imp

08-03-2006, 02:42 PM

What Dumb :banana::banana::banana::banana: buys a Dell for performance :confused:
well, they ARE making good business, so i'm going to guess... a dumb :banana::banana::banana::banana:?

nn_step

08-03-2006, 02:44 PM

Imp']well, they ARE making good business, so i'm going to guess... a dumb :banana::banana::banana::banana:?
The people who Buy dell buy because it is cheap. Not for any other reason. because it is dirt cheap

[TAG]Imp

08-03-2006, 02:45 PM

The people who Buy dell buy because it is cheap. Not for any other reason. because it is dirt cheap
tell that to anyone with an XPS....

Starscream

08-03-2006, 02:45 PM

Imp']well, they ARE making good business, so i'm going to guess... a dumb :banana::banana::banana::banana:?

yeah but the kind of dumb:banana::banana::banana::banana: that buys a Dell wont care if its AMD or Intel thats init.
and Del aint stupid they arent gonna put AMDs in their PCs just cause they are faster then Pentiums cause pentium is dead.

the only valid reason for a company like Dell to put AMD int heir PCs is cause they will make more profit per desktop with this setup.

[TAG]Imp

08-03-2006, 02:49 PM

I think Dell just took too much :banana::banana::banana::banana: during the PD era about not having AMD, and they're now being forced to take action... PR move more than pure business move IMO

[XC] Lead Head

08-03-2006, 03:03 PM

Imp']I think Dell just took too much :banana::banana::banana::banana: during the PD era about not having AMD, and they're now being forced to take action... PR move more than pure business move IMO

Dell is doing to not be left out in the cold like the past 3 years when they were stuck with the P4 and the a64 was better, so they have both product lines whenever one becomes better

Baldrick

08-03-2006, 03:31 PM

Dell is doing it because due to the AMD lawsuit against intel, intel are no longer offering such low prices to dell, you cannot pick up intel processors that much cheaper if you are a big company due to the recent price cuts for everyone. AMD is now around the same price and selling AMD processors gets dell out of any business with the AMD lawsuit.

[TAG]Imp

08-03-2006, 03:48 PM