Ninja Backplate vs. Stock Mobo Backplate

[Berix]

I recently ordered a new Scythe Ninja and I'm wondering which backplate is better to use. The one that comes with the Ninja or the one that comes stock with my motherboard? Is one stronger or in any way better?

My motherboard is an MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum. Oh, and does anyone know if the Ninja retention module and its screws and even compatible with the Neo4 backplate?

Thanks for any help.:banana:

[ripken204]

i have a dfi nf4 ultra-d and i decided to use the ninja backplate, its just seams more sturdy.

[SturmoV]

Use Ninja's.


P.S.Some people have had trouble removing it from their mobos afterwards, and there were reports of people removing mobo's smt components with it, too.

Just be careful not to peel off the white tape that covers the sticky surface, leave it on when you mount, and all will be well. :cool:

[Otaking71]

I used a ninja on a neo4...the scythe backplate gave me problems when the board was mounted in a case.

[Berix]

Otaking71: Was the problem because of the motherboard or the case? I have an Antec SLK3000B.

[Otaking71]

it was the board...with the scythe backplate...i had issues booting now and then..you'll notice it overlaps the memory area..i think it puts too much stress on the traces and shorts them.

[ripken204]

Use Ninja's.


P.S.Some people have had trouble removing it from their mobos afterwards, and there were reports of people removing mobo's smt components with it, too.

Just be careful not to peel off the white tape that covers the sticky surface, leave it on when you mount, and all will be well. :cool:
ya ive heard about that. now my ninja is going to stay on this board forever. for my friend who i recently built a computer for, he has the dfi nf4 ultra-d and the ninja and i just use the dfi mount and it worked fine.

[Berix]

Would it be better to use the stock MSI backplate with the Neo4? Don't want problems booting, but then again I don't want the Ninja's weight damaging the mobo or CPU either.

[Berix]

The Ninja just arrived yesterday and it looks great.:) There appears to be some kind of padding on the backplate so you sure that the pressure on the memory traces is the problem? I think I'm going to see which backplate is stronger.

[Diverge]

i used the stock dfi backplate with my ninja. i just shortened the screws that hold the retaining bracket on the topside of the motherboard (that screw into backplate). screw the normal sized screws in, see how much they stick out past the backside of the backplate, and hacksaw some threads off.. file the end up a bit and you are good to go.

[Berix]

Did you use the screws that came with the Ninja or the ones that came with the mobo to secure the retention bracket onto the stock mobo backplate? And why is the sawing necessary? Shouldn't they be the right size? Is it okay to not saw them off if the screws don't touch the bottom of the case?

I was origionally thinking that if I gotta take the mobo out of the case I might as well use the Ninja backplate but I'm reconsidering that now because of the memory thing. Anyway, the instructions do say to use the stock backplate if it's compatible.

[Freebo]

Is the mounting anything like the TTBT? if so these will prolly help:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/Freebo/TTBT/backmounting.jpg

I took the front retainer off and left the back one on, put the mount plate over it and the screws through, i didnt use the sticky pad and it is sturdy but i would like to purchase some wing nuts some time...

[mariosimas]

my 2 cents, don´t remove the paper from the sticker

[Diverge]

Did you use the screws that came with the Ninja or the ones that came with the mobo to secure the retention bracket onto the stock mobo backplate? And why is the sawing necessary? Shouldn't they be the right size? Is it okay to not saw them off if the screws don't touch the bottom of the case?

I was origionally thinking that if I gotta take the mobo out of the case I might as well use the Ninja backplate but I'm reconsidering that now because of the memory thing. Anyway, the instructions do say to use the stock backplate if it's compatible.

I forget which set of screws i used (it was a while ago). but either way, you'll have to remove your motherboard. so you can easily see what I mean. The ninja screws will be too short, and the stock screws will be too long - 95% sure heh; but easy for you to check.

i didn't like how the ninja backplate covered components... while the stock backplate perfectly fit around them. GL with whatever way you go.

[ripken204]

the ninja backplate works fine. it does cover up stuff but it has that cusion so its not like it can hurt it, unless u try to take the backplate off b/c its so sticky. i personally dont have plans of ever trying to replace my ninja, its a great heatsink. my next comp will be next year or the year after and my current will just go to my dad. and he's cant complain about it, considering he has a pII 350mhz

[GOATSLAYER]

I Used the ninja one with my Ultra-d, fits fine.

[Berix]

Hello. I just finished putting the Ninja onto my MSI Neo4 a few minutes ago. I decided to go with the stock backplate. Surprising, the stock MSI actually looked STRONGER than the Ninja plate so I went with MSI's.:woot:

Just one thing. When installing it I couldn't keep the Ninja on the CPU while I clipped the first hook. So the CPU and Ninja unattached a few times while I was trying to attach it and thus breaking the Ceramique seal. But I reapplyed the Ceramique twice and retried to mount the Ninja twice but the thing broke off from the CPU every try, so I left I just hooked the thing on and didn't bother reapplying the Ceramique after the second or third time. Could that have created any air bubbles or anything?

Also, I kinda touched the HS/F bottom but I didn't touch where the CPU's CORE would be so I just wiped it with a cloth, didn't bother with the alcohol, hope that's fine. I had Ceramique on the base when I touched it and so now I'm thinking maybe the wiping spread skin cells where the CPU CORE is.:stick:

EDIT: Oh yeah, temps. :)

Stock AMD Cooler:
Idle: 36'C
Load: 47'C

Ninja Plus Cooler:
Idle: 31'C
Load: 40'C