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S1nn3r
07-27-2006, 08:13 PM
Im haveing a hell of a time getting the rig in my sig to work, it realy realy hates me (Cant even run prime at stock for more then an hour amongst many other issues)

So im thinking prehaps abandoning Intel this round wasnt such a good idea as ive been an Intel man since my first PC. Of corse my attention somewhat turns to Conroe, and unless I can sort the mess that is this current setup or secure an alternative workable AMD S939 solution that I am happy with(i.e attempting to replace ether mobo or cpu or boath) then I may just abandon the whole S939 thing altogether and suck it up and go Conroe.. of corse looseing a crapload of money in the process.(even more so becuse the uber DDR i bought for S939 would be usless on conroe of corse)

So i am trapped bettween a Rock and a Hard Place. I realy dont know which direction to go to solve this but i do know ether way it is going to be a pain in the arse, and likely a pain in the wallet to.

perkam
07-27-2006, 08:30 PM
So im thinking prehaps abandoning Intel this round wasnt such a good ideaI believe i advised you to go Socket AM2, where chips are hitting 2.8 quite easily and except for some mobo bioses, very smoothly too. I say this because of your "I should've gone with Intel" give up attitude. I've seen members who's budgets are limited to $300 get barely working rigs into champions by asking questions on the forums, literally pestering the experts here until they have the rig they imagined they would when they first bought the hardware.

However, on the basis of your very good choices of hardware parts, I'm quite confident you'll be able to sift through this little mess in the beginning...everyone has it.

You have a good powerful system there that should last you a year if not more. Can you pls give a screenshot of :

1. CPUZ CPU Shot
2. CPUZ HTT Shot
3. SuperPi 1M Shot

Perkam

S1nn3r
07-27-2006, 08:39 PM
You are of corse right somewhat, iI realy should stick to as much as possible what i have no.

However this motherboard I think is the primary cause of the issues I have, so as a process of elimation i need to swap it with a diffrent one.. and this is whats been driveing me up the wall for the last week, trying to find alternatives that on paper at least dont suck in the bugs/issues departments.

Ive been prefering a crossfire board for odvious reasons, but nearly all the CFX3200 boards have issues.. particulaly the ones with the ULI SB and the whole SATA2 being borked thing with the ULI South Bridge. And the only CFX3200 without the ULI, has issues of its own (the Sapphire) which it seems they havent bothered fixing.

perkam
07-27-2006, 09:01 PM
You are of corse right somewhat, iI realy should stick to as much as possible what i have no.

However this motherboard I think is the primary cause of the issues I have, so as a process of elimation i need to swap it with a diffrent one.. and this is whats been driveing me up the wall for the last week, trying to find alternatives that on paper at least dont suck in the bugs/issues departments.

Ive been prefering a crossfire board for odvious reasons, but nearly all the CFX3200 boards have issues.. particulaly the ones with the ULI SB and the whole SATA2 being borked thing with the ULI South Bridge. And the only CFX3200 without the ULI, has issues of its own (the Sapphire) which it seems they havent bothered fixing.If you're seriously considering buying a new one...whats your price range ?

My recommendation for a good stable board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813136152
...but if you MUSt have a crossfire board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813127234

The art of recommending hardware is less satisfying when its to replace hardware because of issues than if you were upgrading...so my first and foremost recommendation BEFORE throwing ANY more money would be to stick with the board and sort through the manual, through the web, and through any support (RMA?) before throwing the board.

Perkam

WeStSiDePLaYa
07-27-2006, 10:42 PM
deffiently listen to perkam here.

you have a very decent setup in your rig which should be more than enough to satisfy your needs.

if your new to A64 then you will have some things to get adjusted to, just take the time to get to know your new hardware before counting it out.

you need to post all memory timings, extended and basic, voltages, multipliers, htt, etc so people can see if you have something set wrong.

from the sounds of it though, it seems your just trying to jump right into the overclock and its not stable. when you have a whole new rig, its most important to work your way up to max oc so you can get a feel for how your new componets react to different settings.

i really dont think a new motherboard is going to be the best solution here, i think tweaking will be.

S1nn3r
07-27-2006, 11:26 PM
I think you missunderstand the nature of the issues ive had with this system..

There are 3 basic issues here, general(at stock)stablity,usb/mouse issues and DVDRW issues.

These Forum posts on OCW detail the saga so far -

http://www.ocwforums.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=54042
http://www.ocwforums.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=53995
http://www.ocwforums.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=54030

And this one on CDfreaks -
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=186790

As you can see, my problems are more basic then just not being able to overclock this system right. It just plain is not working at a basic level.

exhausted mule
07-27-2006, 11:49 PM
those are just the usual "new board" issues.

differen't board work with different components differently. you might have to try different firmware/bios settings/ plugs/boot procedures....

sometimes some components just dont work on certain mobos (consider it the bane of the modular computer industry) you work around it or either end up contacting the manufacter of the components to see if:

-there are known issues with a particular model of component combination
- if perhaps a firmware update in the past has address issues they may be similar to yours
- if they are infact aware of particular abnormaloties with a particular settup.


this is all assuming you have everything plugged in right. the mobo isn't shortiing itself out. you have tried all the current driver/firmware/settings. and have read the mobo owners manual inside and out. backwards upside down and while holding three snakes, a candle and blue stick made out of brazilian birch bark.

computers are fun but they can be a pain in the ass sometimes.


:)

good luck.

S1nn3r
07-28-2006, 12:00 AM
those are just the usual "new board" issues.

differen't board work with different components differently. you might have to try different firmware/bios settings/ plugs/boot procedures....

sometimes some components just dont work on certain mobos (consider it the bane of the modular computer industry) you work around it or either end up contacting the manufacter of the components to see if:

-there are known issues with a particular model of component combination
- if perhaps a firmware update in the past has address issues they may be similar to yours
- if they are infact aware of particular abnormaloties with a particular settup.


this is all assuming you have everything plugged in right. the mobo isn't shortiing itself out. you have tried all the current driver/firmware/settings. and have read the mobo owners manual inside and out. backwards upside down and while holding three snakes, a candle and blue stick made out of brazilian birch bark.

computers are fun but they can be a pain in the ass sometimes.


:)

good luck.

Im at the point in the troubleshooting process where I need to start swaping components, and noticeing the nature of these issues my first suspect is the mobo, then prehaps CPU.

perkam
07-28-2006, 07:19 AM
I have a sneaking suspicion your vcore is too low for the opty, hence your p95 issues.

But as westside stated, list your settings in the bios and give us some cpuz shots so that we can see whats going on.

Perkam