Loads of H2O/peltier Q's

[CCW]

Hi,

Now my 9700 Graphics Card is on the way Im gonna have pretty much a balanced and fast system and my next endeavour is...you guessed it! Watercooling. Currently my proc is being cooled by a SunCore CopperStorm up to 2200+ (my proc is an XP2000+ Palamino). The first question is does anyone know how much difference in temp I will have? Current temps are 33 idle and up to 39 @ load. I was thinking of this kit from Marci's site on this page http://www.over-clock.co.uk/acatalog/Full_Kits.html

Just looked at that page and the £190 kit has gone, the one I was looking at! Anyways, take for example the £180 kit on there how much difference in temp asm I gonan notice please?

Also, what are peltiers, I hear they can keep temps down well below 0 degrees celsius, but Im not sure how they work, what they do exactly etc, anyone nkow of a good article of pelts and H2) please?

I dont want to spend £200 on something thats not going to be a big difference to what ive got now!

Marci - whats happened to the kits please?

I was showing my Dad the watercooling gear and he was surprised to see that the pumps are similar to ther run that runs our large pond. Also, he suggested to me that a way to get the air out of the system is to put the reservoir at the highest point, hes no expert and knows nowt bout comps and watercooling (apart from he does some pretty good ponds ;)) so is he right?

Thanks for any help you can give me,

Craig

[CCW]

anyone?

Craig

[Method Man]

Well I will try to help you,

T.E.C stands for Thermal Electric Cooling.....one side gets extremely hot and the other side gets extremely cold.Now there is a catch to all this, you half to cool the hot side to get it to cool.The cooler you get the hot side the cooler the cold side gets.

I think you should stay out of the tec area because of all the condensation protection you half to do and its expensive.


Most pumps that are used in watercooling are pond pumps and fish tank pumps.....most people as myself use the Eheim pumps because there really relyable but they are also kinda expensive :(

With watercooling you won't really see that much of a diffrence in idle temp as you do with good aircooling but the thing that you will notice if you get good watercooling is that your load temps will be lower and if you add more voltage your temps don't go as high as if you were using aircooling.With my watercooling I get temps of 28C Idle and 30C load @ stock and @ 2.2V I get temps of 35C Idle and 38-39C Load.Oh ya and watercooling won't cost you more than £200 so you should be good to go.

I hope this answered some of your questions :)

[CCW]

Thank you very much! £200 was just a limit I set myself of the maximum i wanted to spend. Doesnt seem to make much difference then? Is it possible to reach minus temps with W/C?

I plan to get a barton before water coolnig now, wel lnot sure, depends how cask (ker ching!) is from now on.

Thanks again for your help,
Craig

[Method Man]

Glad to help Craig,

As for just plaing watercooling hiting in the below ambiant temps thats a negative...watercooling will get you 1-2C above ambiant at best, if you want to go colder you got to get pelts or get into Phase Changing.:eek:

[CCW]

and thats where the cost will be high! how can you get 1-2 degrees clesisus (sorry to ask lots of Questions), add more radiators? another pump? reservoir?

Thank you,
Craig

[Method Man]

To get good temps its wise to have a combo of a decent sized heatercore, high CFM fans on the heatercore, high flow rate pump, large tubing (1/2 ID should be good), and a good waterblock.

[CCW]

6000rpm 80mm fan should be ok to keep the watercool? water is heatercore please?

Craig

[CCW]

will be back online later

[Method Man]

I think if you unrivited the 2 HD bays in your case and put a big heatercore in its place and shrouded 2 120mm 100+ CFM fans that would work really well.:toast:

[Method Man]

Here is an idea of what it should look like with the high flowrate pump, nonrestrictive tubing, good waterblock, and the bigest heatercore I could fit in the case.

[CCW]

is a heater core a radiator? thanks very much for all your help! :D

btw, your setup looks really cool

Craig

[antipop]

Originally posted by CCW
6000rpm 80mm fan should be ok to keep the watercool? water is heatercore please?

Craig I don't thin a 80mm fan is enough, and moreover it will be loudy and won't cool the whole area of the heatercore. Best combo is a 120mm fan and a shroud.
A heatercore is radiator, the same that you find in cars. Your father is right about the res but i don't like them in a case, a T-line is enough and doesn't takes any room.

[CCW]

ok, thanks very much you guys, im gonna have a look at fans quickly to see what i will need, a 120mm with over 100cfm i will look for

Cheers,
Craig

[antipop]

I've just checked dangerden website and you can get a full wc kit for $175 without shiping (you should add $20)

[CCW]

This looks like the one:
YS-Tech DC fans provide cooling suited to the most demanding applications. Specification includes :


Dimension 120 x 120 x 38mm

RPM 2800

Airflow 125.5 CFM

Noise 40.5 dB-A

Sleeve bearing

4 pin molex connection

Polarity Protection or Auto-Restart (IC)

Weight 160g

For full spec. visit YS-Tech

and it costs about £10 so i will get a couple when/iuf i get waterrcooling

125 cfm - thats a lot of airflow

Craig

[CCW]

http://www.overclock.co.uk/customer/product.php?productid=16432&cat=408&page=1

this is the one overclock.co.uk do, i have ordered from here beofe, evenm though its fairly cheap at £140 i wont go that cheap, i weill go for eheim pump, my dad says they are good asnd a lot of people here use em and dangerden stuff as well

Craig

[CCW]

Back to the old forums, prob is, i dont have all the other responses to this thread anymore!

Craig

[gobbo]

If you check back at Marci's site, they have the watercooling kits back in stock!

Easy to fit into your case, tbh i'd avoid peltiers/TEC's for the time being and just go straight in with watercooling.

[CCW]

Excellent, thanks for letting me know. Ideally i want to get to the shop because that would be the easiest but cant, its in yorkshire so ive heard so i will have to order it and set it up by myself :(

Thanks again,
Craig

[gobbo]

Check your PM!

[CCW]

Thanks, Ideally i need to get to Marcis shop so i can have a look at the stuff, prob is its in yorkshire so tghe pics on the site will have to do!

Craig