View Full Version : GFFX info from a guy who supposedly HAS one ( has to return it heheheh)
Here is a thread from Sharkeys...
Enjoy !!:banana:
http://www.sharkyforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=181268&perpage=15&pagenumber=1
If someone already posted this, I didn't see it sorry.......
Holst
03-04-2003, 09:35 AM
duff link fore me m8
hmmmmmmmm I dont know if Svenn read this thread, and linked to there, but he just posted his first post at that site.... works for me.......
try going to the source I got the info from and click that link and see if it works for ya.......
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8237
Svenn
03-04-2003, 09:53 AM
Yeah, link works for me... That's how I found it.
Vectrex
03-04-2003, 10:00 AM
I think that guy should spend his money on the rest of his machine before he goes and buys himself a GFFX.
That guy is rather strange ( the one you qouted).... I wonder how bad the beating would have been with a 9700p @500/380 like some folks get.......
Some folks never cease to amaze me.........
Svenn
03-04-2003, 10:03 AM
Hehe, seriously...
"Wow! Look! It's almost on par with a 9700 with a 200 Mhz lower core and Mem speeds! Awesome! These cards rock."
Nomad
03-04-2003, 11:12 AM
Unless my eyes deceived me...it didnt beat my 4400 by a whole lot. I see better,,far better scoring form the 9700Pro. And to think,,,they said it would do 20+k in a mid-range system..lol.
QuadDamage
03-04-2003, 12:17 PM
a fellow tweaker from FM, badboy, has his PNY Ultra delivered today. He's got W/C as well, so i think i'll wait a day or two for his input.
I'm interested to see how high he can clock that thing after taking off that monstrosity.
I3lackCoffee
03-04-2003, 01:59 PM
Well I think everyone has the right to be UNIMPRESSED with nVidia's new hope in the FX. It really should have came out about the time of the 9700pro release because then it would have been more even. But now it's like we wait this long and it's only somewhat better or just plain even in some cases, and I hear it's loud and obviously it's a lot bigger, so I mean, I totally agree with people who flame on this card because it's being released way TO late.
stilllife
03-04-2003, 04:05 PM
its not thats its loud but look at new egg 430 dollers for the FX and now at best buy you can get a 9700pro for 300 dollers
why spend 130 dollers more maybe it me
QuadDamage
03-04-2003, 10:52 PM
ok. he's got some problems with clocks. 3dmark03 will only let him bench at 300/600. i think it's caused by rivatuner and/or powerstrip. Riva reports 300/600 and powerstrip doesn't recognise the card at all....
the thing is, the framerate jumps to 500fps in Wings of fury test and then goes down to 60fps.... and up again. I'll post update as soon as i know something.
I went over and checked out that thread QD,
Thanks for the update bro.
muz
Creative
03-05-2003, 04:43 PM
QuadDamage that sounds like the stupid Throtling coming into effect.
Ive always said it would suck to be in your last 3dmark test run and looking for the 20K score and then the card throttles and u get 17K.....
GF FX is a waste of space and anyone who buys one really has no brains...well thats my opinion anyways :)
althes
03-05-2003, 06:49 PM
My 9700pro wrks just fine for me. No need to upgrade for a long time. fx is just a waste of time.:D
QuadDamage
03-05-2003, 07:37 PM
Yeah, this throttling is unneccessary "feature"... I'm just wondering if someone could possibly "disable" that feature by modding the card...
saw latest guru3d review? looks like FX is now faster than r9700 by 3-9%.
Well if you call not rendering the picture correctly yeah I would say it is 3-9% faster.....
AND IT SHOULD BE.....
That review sure looked biased to me.......
But then again what do I know I don't spend any time on the internet reading and checking up on stuff.........
Sorry I been dealing with zealots all day it seems, nothing against you QD.
QuadDamage
03-05-2003, 09:00 PM
muzz:)
Here's his GFFX latest achievement @ 547/1100. he fixed throttling, it seems.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=373243
gokickrocks
03-05-2003, 09:12 PM
i still beat his score :banana:
the 9800 pro 256mb arrives in april! 400core460mem(ddr2)!
QuadDamage
03-05-2003, 09:50 PM
at what cpu speed?
gokickrocks
03-05-2003, 10:31 PM
2535mhz (9700 at 411/351)...although i dont beat him by much, around 130 points
i noticed that he didnt complete the sound test...whats up with that? i have the same mobo as him
edit: just noticed he is a "pro user" and probably didnt select those tests...i had a nice oc on the 9700 (462/371) but it always crashed on the 2nd sound test :(
QuadDamage
03-05-2003, 11:39 PM
ok, thanks for input. yeah, you got nice score too:)
macci
03-08-2003, 02:32 AM
GFFX out of the box:
5936 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=388149)
beatnic
03-08-2003, 03:45 AM
ooh.. macci has got himself a FX 5800 ultra :)
macci
03-08-2003, 05:01 AM
With some tweakin now at 6119 Marks (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=389515) card at 547/1107. No mods, no special cooling, just took the original cooler off and put my own little GPU HSF thingy on it. Got some 20MHz extra GPU and 30MHz extra mem even thou there is no ramcooling at all now :)
MArk2001 19445 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6109892) Marks w/ 544/1107 clocks. Looks like the driver ain't very well optimized for mark2001 at this point :P The Nature test score (149.6FPS) is quite insane for aircooled, nonmodded card thou ;)
zakelwe
03-08-2003, 08:32 AM
I looked at that first guys results and laughed because my GF 4 4400 beat his, but if you look at the scores in the tests where the graphic card is important, dragothic high and nature, he does really well. His nature score .. boy would I like that !
Looking at Macci's score I think several things :-
1) Ditching the OEM cooling option and going for more robust aircooling / water / dry ice / LN2 will allow good increases
2) Given the above the FX is not for noobs ;)
3) The nv35 will easily out perform the 9800 Pro in the hands of the non noob ( in benchmarking that is, not games or IQ or such)
4) Well done macci :) Go and get higher to stire the hornets nest ! May I suggest dry ice on the damn thing. Nice and quiet as well :D
Regards
Andy
zakelwe
03-08-2003, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by macci
Looks like the driver ain't very well optimized for mark2001 at this point :P The Nature test score (149.6FPS) is quite insane for aircooled, nonmodded card thou ;)
Hi Macci,
No the 42.68 drivers are no good for DX7 games, they are optimised for DX8 ( and DX9 ??) hence your great score in nature .
Here's some results from benches on 3dmark2001 with several l drivers in Windows 2000 :-
40.52
14646
14745
14738
42.86
14680
14678
14671
42.68
14,536
42.51
14761
14750
All settings the same. You can tell when drivers were poor because I only ran them once or twice. See the 42.68 result.
I would suggest the old faithful 40.72's for XP or maybe the 42.51.
Regards
Andy
As far as I am concerned the NV35 isn't even in this discussion really.....
Please check the fanboyism at the door.
Thank You
zakelwe
03-08-2003, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by muzz
As far as I am concerned the NV35 isn't even in this discussion really.....
Please check the fanboyism at the door.
Thank You
Muzz,
you have been on nvnews and rage3d.com too long and have reverted to their behaviour.
Re read this page with both mine and yours comments ..am I still a fanboy ?
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7955&perpage=25&highlight=nvidia&pagenumber=2
Note in that I say :-
" I could wait till this summer but it might be delayed again or simply still not be as good as r350 as a total package ( IQ and speed and cost) "
And what I say above :-
"3) The nv35 will easily out perform the 9800 Pro in the hands of the non noob ( in benchmarking that is, not games or IQ or such)"
ie Macci et al will be able to make it sing but not the general public.
I don't post fanboy posts to xtreme, but it looks like you do.
Regards
Andy
Zak.....
I see you there, and have been in the same threads with you, I was referring to bringing up a card that IS NOT available yet( this thing WONT be FOR MONTHS). this is NOT a VCARD manufacturer forum, this is the Overclocking Forum at Xtreme, lets not get into that shiznit here........
DON'T tell me what a fanboy is, I am NOT 1, I buy what I FEEL is best when it is available at IQ/performance/ per $ spent , I have never owned an NV product, nor do I see it happening anytime soon, but I don't going bashing folks that do... I bash people who talk bs about it.
I am not a follower, I buy what I want because it is my hard earned green, regardless of what Joe Blow says.
Don't gimme this crap, I never said you were an unfair blind fanboy, what I said was please leave the fanboyism at the door.... and I very glad that you have info regarding the great NV35 that'll save NV. WGAS there is NO proof of any of this crap.
TBO I was just hoping to keep this from becoming a flamefest, and when speculation is brought into it fans get their IRE up, and that is what I am trying to avoid by saying what I did.. that is all.
gokickrocks
03-08-2003, 11:01 AM
nice score there macci...vmod it and cool it with dry ice!
Yes macci please keep us apprised of your progress with your mad benching skills with that thing:thumbsup:
zakelwe
03-08-2003, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by muzz
Zak.....
I see you there, and have been in the same threads with you, I was referring to bringing up a card that IS NOT available yet( this thing WONT be FOR MONTHS). this is NOT a VCARD manufacturer forum, this is the Overclocking Forum at Xtreme, lets not get into that shiznit here........
DON'T tell me what a fanboy is, I am NOT 1, I buy what I FEEL is best when it is available at IQ/performance/ per $ spent , I have never owned an NV product, nor do I see it happening anytime soon, but I don't going bashing folks that do... I bash people who talk bs about it.
I am not a follower, I buy what I want because it is my hard earned green, regardless of what Joe Blow says.
Don't gimme this crap, I never said you were an unfair blind fanboy, what I said was please leave the fanboyism at the door.... and I very glad that you have info regarding the great NV35 that'll save NV. WGAS there is NO proof of any of this crap.
TBO I was just hoping to keep this from becoming a flamefest, and when speculation is brought into it fans get their IRE up, and that is what I am trying to avoid by saying what I did.. that is all.
Hi Muzz,
Obviously you feel as upset as being accused of being a fanboy as I do as being inferred as.
This may not be the video card forum but I was replying to a post regarding benchmarking a video card. As the post had not been moved then there is no problem there surely ? Or are the mods sleeping on the job ? I see you also post on benchmarking later.
And if your point is that I shouldn't have written down thoughts on a product not yet released then fine, but if I said Canterwood would more than likely than not be the chipset of 2003 I bet you wouldn't turn a hair.
Bloody hell, that all sounds so serious :D I'm just sticking up for my side of the arguement but I don't want to argue with someone who pioneered the Epox nforce2 and gave me lots ot tips for miine..
Pax ?
How about a bet on :-
3) The nv35 will easily out perform the 9800 Pro in the hands of the non noob ( in benchmarking that is, not games or IQ or such)
If it's true you send me your worst bit of hardware you have lying around and if I lose and the 9800 Pro is better I send you my worst ( and golly is it bad ;) )
Regards
Andy
GVCryan
03-08-2003, 04:05 PM
We all need a few beers anymore.
Andy, Muzz has a good point about us knowing absolutley nothing about the nv35. We all thought the 30 would own and we were wrong. Perhaps you will be right, but blantant generalizations don't help anyone.
Muzz, well I agree with you so I wont say anything;) but, Xtreme isn't like those other forums you visit, so you you don't need to be so defensive. I don't know of any real fanboys lurking in these waters. I appreciate you trying to keep the flaming on the low, but people do get offended.
How bout we all go down to the tavern for a round or 4.
:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:
badboy
03-09-2003, 06:31 AM
Originally posted by gokickrocks
2535mhz (9700 at 411/351)...although i dont beat him by much, around 130 points
i noticed that he didnt complete the sound test...whats up with that? i have the same mobo as him
edit: just noticed he is a "pro user" and probably didnt select those tests...i had a nice oc on the 9700 (462/371) but it always crashed on the 2nd sound test :(
Here is my latest score with my PNY FX at 560/1120.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=394258 which is 5979 points. I hit 6k but I didn't save at all. Why do I need to run all of the test? Don't the top scorers only do the the required test? Why don't you try running you 9700 Pro say at a 60mhz overcl:banana::banana::banana::banana: on the gpu like I did and see what you get. I get 5408 with my 9700 Pro running at 389/330 and that is little more that a 60mhz overclock on the card. The highest I can get 560 on the gpu without a v-mod.
Zak....
Everythings cool man.:cool:
sup bb
So you've had that card for a few days now, what do ya think of it?
If I remember correctly you ripped off the fan and put a wb on it, is that as high as you can run those clocks stable, and are there any artifacts?
I noticed that the compare says 559/1107 clocks, is FM that far of from what you had it set at? I mean core was very close, but the memory is 13 mhz off from what you stated... just trying to figure out if they are giving the correct info.
Thanks
badboy
03-09-2003, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by muzz
sup bb
So you've had that card for a few days now, what do ya think of it?
If I remember correctly you ripped off the fan and put a wb on it, is that as high as you can run those clocks stable, and are there any artifacts?
I noticed that the compare says 559/1107 clocks, is FM that far of from what you had it set at? I mean core was very close, but the memory is 13 mhz off from what you stated... just trying to figure out if they are giving the correct info.
Thanks
The was at 560/1107 not what I mentioned before. I had it at 560/1120 and got 6k but I didn't save it by mistake.:mad: Yes I took off the cooling because it is a heattrap. There wasn't any artifacts at 1107 and when I tried it at 1120. This card needs to be modded to get higher on the core. I like pretty good.;) I will try for 6k later tonight.;) It does need better drivers to get it to it full potential.
Cool bb Thanks for the info...
keep us informed of your progress, and GL with your new card :toast:
gokickrocks
03-09-2003, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by badboy
Here is my latest score with my PNY FX at 560/1120.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=394258 which is 5979 points. I hit 6k but I didn't save at all. Why do I need to run all of the test? Don't the top scorers only do the the required test? Why don't you try running you 9700 Pro say at a 60mhz overcl:banana::banana::banana::banana: on the gpu like I did and see what you get. I get 5408 with my 9700 Pro running at 389/330 and that is little more that a 60mhz overclock on the card. The highest I can get 560 on the gpu without a v-mod.
usually top scorers use the required test...dont take my comments as an attack against you, as it wasnt meant to be...i chose not to purchase the pro edition (yea i know im cheap)...it just means that i have to keep the overclocking to be stable for a longer amount of time (damn that 2nd sound test!)...i may eventually give in and purchase it
i need to do a reformat to break 6k...
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=112363
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