AMD To Partially Acquire ATI Operations

[perkam]

Chinese website first to confirm.

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Ftech.sina.com.cn%2Fit%2F2 006-07-04%2F16001020773.shtml&langpair=zh-CN%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

Nvidia Corporation founder and CEO Huangrenxun Earlier in accepting media interviews that if the company AMD acquired ATI, NVIDIA will adjust the current strategy will no longer focus on the majority of AMD market, but part of the Intel market pros. :eek: Ooooh. Sizzle, Sizzle :)

Perkam

[LOE]

then google buys earth and slaves us all

this cannot be real
maybe a bad translation?

[alexio]

Nvidia only says "IF".

[Starscream]

not alot fo info init tbh.
just that one person near the talks said that there are talks between AMD and ATI.

So tbh it can be everything as i doubt AMD will buy all of ATI, and if AMD only buys a part of ATI wich part will that be?


Nvidia says IF because if AMD would buy the chipset division of ATI it would depend if that chipset division keeps making Budget and High-end chipsets or only Budget ones.
If AMD buys ATI chipset and they keep making High-end i think Nvidia would concetrate the majority of their people on Intel chipsets.

[dinos22]

oh my this is going to be big

i wonder why AMD is siding with ATI.....maybe they feel it's better to partner with smaller companies >> easier negotiation

[Greenhead]

but nvidia chipsets historically don't perform as well as the intel based ones.
it's a tough market to compete on.

[LOE]

phhhhhhh... wish I could read minds remotely :(

[Pinnacle]

HUGE, HUGE news!!

[Starscream]

but nvidia chipsets historically don't perform as well as the intel based ones.
it's a tough market to compete on.

Like said Nvidia puts most of its Chipset resources towards AMD.
And if rumors are true that Intle steps out of the high-end chipset busines.

[RTB]

I'll believe it when it really happens.

[gOJDO]

I don't belive. AMD are allready in bed with NVIDIA. I don't think that AMD will cheat on NVIDIA, and if they do, that will be a suicide for AMD: Intel+NVIDIA.....

[Cobalt]

This doesn't confirm anything it's just an nV guy saying that IF AMD+ATi happens then nV will be concentrating on Intel. Wow, big surprise there. Seeing as there is no official news yet and reports like this have happened many times before, I don't think this will amount to anything. Wait for the offical announcment before you jump to conclusions.

[Pinnacle]

This doesn't confirm anything it's just an nV guy saying that IF AMD+ATi happens then nV will be concentrating on Intel. Wow, big surprise there. Seeing as there is no official news yet and reports like this have happened many times before, I don't think this will amount to anything. Wait for the offical announcment before you jump to conclusions.

nV will be concentrating on Intel

This will never happen. They both have a rocky relationship


Ofcourse we will wait for the official statment, but as we seen before things like this do lead to the real thing

[Thorry]

Where there's smoke there's fire, especially when it's not only coming from the smoke machine INQ.

AMD and Ati merge/takeover/buyout/corporation whatever can only be a good thing. AMD is still a lot smaller as Intel, so they need all the help they can get.

Bigger is better...

[metro.cl]

this is old i read about it at computex time.

only rumors

[Cybercat]

I fail to see where this is confirmed.

[Stuperman]

I still don't believe this, AMD is in tight with nVidia, and Intel and ATI have a rather cozy relationship. It doesn't make any sence for the two smallest companies in different but related fields to join, the strong relationship that AMD has with nVidia will go out the window, and ATI will make an enemy out of Intel, which is never a good idea.

[ZX7891]

ATI wont make an enemy of Intel, I figure everything will pretty much stay the same, only money will be going into different pockets.

[Stuperman]

ATI wont make an enemy of Intel, I figure everything will pretty much stay the same, only money will be going into different pockets.


ATI will be part of a company that is sueing intel, how are they going to "remain friends"

[derektm]

I'll set my time machine to 2 months ahead... when I get back I'll let you guys know what happened.

[nn_step]

This will really mix things up

[situman]

Well there goes the Intel market for ATI, unless they spin off the chipset division. Even then there might be bad blood. Or Intel can just play hooky with Nvidia.

[DilTech]

July 4 at noon, a person close to the negotiations which side to the author revealed that AMD has reached a purchase agreement with ATI, the news will soon be officially announced.
What does this have to do with NVidia's "if". They're saying an agreement has been reached.

Also, Perkam, nowhere does it say partially, it looks like it's an all or nothing deal going on here.

Anyway, moving right along....

Eh, to those who thinks this makes no sense, allow me to remind you of something.

What market right now is considered the largest pc market?
Laptops.

Who makes the AMD laptop boards?
ATi.

Who pretty much has cornered the laptop GPU market?
ATi.

What would this mean for all companies?
AMD = Cheaper production of laptops due to having their own GPU and Chipset company. They'll also end up with access to a few ATi patents/licenses, like say.... Fast-14 (http://www.intrinsity.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=1&id=21&Itemid=28)?
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:3JsyLjls2J0J:www.eetimes.com/semi/news/OEG20040205S0029+%22fast14%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=3&client=firefox-a
ATi = Cheaper production of gpu's due to having their own fabs(think for a second, AMD is building a fab now in NY...) Ontop of that, they'll have access to 65nm in the winter, and 45nm in 2008. To top it all off, they'll also have SOI and SiGe methods as well.

NVidia = Sides with Intel, with NVidia being part of the HyperTransport team, intel now gets full access without payment to this technology thru NVidia mobo's. At the same time, a huge amount of pressure is put on NVidia, because they'll still have to contract out their cards to fabs while ATi won't. This will allow much bigger dies from ATi than NVidia is capable of for the same price, causing quite a strain on NV.

Intel = now putting money in AMD's pocket, due to a contract signed for Integrated gpu's for their mobo's in both laptops and desktops. On the otherhand, they'll then get NVidia and SLi,

[LOE]

why everyone thinks that if AMD and ATI merge, amd will become an enemy to nvidia??? Couldn't ATI become friends with nvidia instead? They both make GPUs that doesn't make them enemies, just now they are in different camps, if AMD and ATI merge they will share the same bed...

[gallag]

why everyone thinks that if AMD and ATI merge, amd will become an enemy to nvidia??? Couldn't ATI become friends with nvidia instead? They both make GPUs that doesn't make them enemies, just now they are in different camps, if AMD and ATI merge they will share the same bed...

yeah, why not, and maybe they could exchange daisy chain necklaces and smoke some sweet, sweet marry Jane around a nice camp fire and maybe the ceo’s could have a love in like john Lennon and yoko ono.:toast: :toast:

[nn_step]

why everyone thinks that if AMD and ATI merge, amd will become an enemy to nvidia??? Couldn't ATI become friends with nvidia instead? They both make GPUs that doesn't make them enemies, just now they are in different camps, if AMD and ATI merge they will share the same bed...
I don't think nVidia is the type of company that likes ménage Ã:banana: trois, especially when it is with their absolute biggest rival

[LOE]

yeah but AMD is buying ATi, so Ati becomes a part of AMD and AMD are nvidia friends

I would understand if Ati buys AMD - then nvidia turns against AMD, but that's not the case

Also there is another possibility - amd kills Ati gpu line and nvidia becomes the world dominating force :) but that would be too bad for us


But I really don't see a reason foy nvidia to hate AMD just cause they got ATI

even more - nvidia might benefit from such thing...

[veryhumid]

I'll believe it when it really happens.

Same here. And as long as it doesn't throw off R600 I won't whine about it.

[[XC] Lead Head]

Same here. And as long as it doesn't throw off R600 I won't whine about it.

If anything a merger would help the r600, since AMD is supposed to have 65nm by december, ATI could use some of AMD's current and future fab space

[5-Clicks]

What does this have to do with NVidia's "if". They're saying an agreement has been reached.

Also, Perkam, nowhere does it say partially, it looks like it's an all or nothing deal going on here.


Where do you pick up that it's all or nothing?

In early June, the acquisition ATI again Puchu case, but the acquisition side has become a veteran opponent Intel AMD, but then AMD and ATI is equally denied the news.
If I'm understanding the poor grammar here, it means that AMD and ATI both denied an acquisition between the two.

It sounds more like it's just simply a purchase agreement. The translator translates DIRECTLY. So "aquisition" in Chinese could have a different social meaning in English....VERY possible.
July 4 at noon, a person close to the negotiations which side to the author revealed that AMD has reached a purchase agreement with ATI, the news will soon be officially announced.

A purchase agreement? What does that mean? That could mean that AMD decided to pay for ATI's employee's socks for the next month. :rolleyes:

[[TAG]Imp]

If anything a merger would help the r600, since AMD is supposed to have 65nm by december, ATI could use some of AMD's current and future fab space
Right, all that spare fab space that AMD has...:confused:

[turtle]

I think "future" was the key part of his sentence, with some many renovations to current fabs for larger quantity as well as new fabs being built by AMD. It's also not insane to believe that ATi parts could be outsourced to Chartered (AMD's co-manufacturing chum) for a better price than ATi is currently getting from TSMC or UMC.

The thought of 45nm ATi parts coming out of an AMD fab in New York though sure is intriguing. Who would have seen that coming a couple months ago?

[derektm]

yeah but AMD is buying ATi, so Ati becomes a part of AMD and AMD are nvidia friends

I would understand if Ati buys AMD - then nvidia turns against AMD, but that's not the case

Also there is another possibility - amd kills Ati gpu line and nvidia becomes the world dominating force :) but that would be too bad for us


But I really don't see a reason foy nvidia to hate AMD just cause they got ATI

even more - nvidia might benefit from such thing...

This would be VERY VERY bad for us! Think if nVidia had no GPU competition... they could slow down their graphics research and devlopments and sell you an older product and raise cost by 20% or so.

[turtle]

Why would they do that though?

If anything, you know that an ATi HTX co-processor will come from this, or a dedicated gpu-like core on-cpu in the 4+ core era, if not both.

[Eastcoasthandle]

this will only piss people off.

[cadaveca]

Oh i hope this is true...ATI, Intel, and AMD stocks will rise, and nVidia, SiS and Via are left out in the cold. PLUS no more TSMC messing with ATI.:fact:

What else would AMD do with all that capacity?

nVidia...do they have a good reputation, as a business? AndI mean not the company's retail side...

Now we just need another foundry in North America...oh..wait...wasn't that just announced?;)

[LOE]

right now amd lacks capacity to produce CPUs, it is lame to speak of them taking over ATI production, it won't be possible until middle 2008 and even later, they need to finalize fab 36 that's currently not working at 100% they need to upgrade fab 30 with new equipment, and they need to get the NY fab operational, then they might think of making someone else's chip

[zakelwe]

Why would AMD want to buy ATi .. for years AMD has shied away from the chipset business so why now do they want to get involved?

Currently they have two chipset vendors competing against each other and this makes the chipsets cheaper, the boards cheaper , the boards faster and therefore a better solution for AMD to look good against Intel.

As mentioned above it's not as if they have excess capital to spare at the current time due to plant expansion.

Of course having said that now I am probably about to be proved wrong :D

Regards

Andy

[LOE]

maybe amd is getting ati just so intel cannot :)

[nn_step]

maybe amd is getting ati just so intel cannot :)
Alright but that would seriously hurt their longest and closest relationship. the One with nVidia.
Hell they have been in bed together so long I was starting to think they were married.

[LOE]

I still fail to see any logic for NVIDIA to start hating AMD if they buy ATI... it is not about names, it's about technology.


The technology goes from nvidia's arch enemy to their closest friend, that's a good thing for nvidia IMO. Thou will be bad for us...

[Eastcoasthandle]

Some fail to see any logically explanation as to why this is bad idea if true. I have read more then a few AMD fanboi based remarks in this thread that offer no proof positive strides as to why this should be:
-good for the consumer
-good business direction
-simply make sense.

[DilTech]

Some fail to see any logically explanation as to why this is bad idea if true. I have read more then a few AMD fanboi based remarks in this thread that offer no proof positive strides as to why this should be:
-good for the consumer
-good business direction
-simply make sense.


It's good for the consumer for 1 very large reason.

Cheaper videocards from ATi. Having AMD's fabs handle their cards will make ATi's price for making cards much cheaper. This will allow for lower prices, which I'm sure ATi would love to slap NVidia back for their low blow with the 7900gt at $299 or less.

Good business direction?
Simple yet again....
I said it earlier, ATi is the ONLY laptop motherboard maker for AMD afaik(shadowmage should know better than myself on that one). Ontop of that, ATi is the number 1 maker of MOBILE gpu's on the market. Walk around any best buy or other computer store and look at the laptops, most have a mobile radeon...

This would mean, for AMD, that even if someone buys an intel laptop, AMD would STILL make money off it due to intel's contract with ATi for gpu's for both desktop and laptops.

Also, ATi have a few good patents and licenses, like Fast14(as mentioned earlier), and that crossbar transistor laying method ATi came up with that I can never remember the name of(the one that lays em in 45º angles instead of 90º)...

Meanwhile, ATi would get access to it's own fabs, SOI & SiGe silicon methods(Can you say FARRRR lower power consumption from ATi than NVidia?), be part of AMD's ibm partnership(which, alot of good has and still will come from, like SOI and SiGe)....

I'd call that an excellent business decision for both camps, wouldn't you?

As for Simply make sense, how does the above NOT make sense?

[DoubleZero]

Cheaper videocards from ATi.

What about keeping the same prices and raising the profits? :fact:

[Eastcoasthandle]

It's good for the consumer for 1 very large reason.

Cheaper videocards from ATi. Having AMD's fabs handle their cards will make ATi's price for making cards much cheaper. This will allow for lower prices, which I'm sure ATi would love to slap NVidia back for their low blow with the 7900gt at $299 or less.

Good business direction?
Simple yet again....
I said it earlier, ATi is the ONLY laptop motherboard maker for AMD afaik(shadowmage should know better than myself on that one). Ontop of that, ATi is the number 1 maker of MOBILE gpu's on the market. Walk around any best buy or other computer store and look at the laptops, most have a mobile radeon...

This would mean, for AMD, that even if someone buys an intel laptop, AMD would STILL make money off it due to intel's contract with ATi for gpu's for both desktop and laptops.

Also, ATi have a few good patents and licenses, like Fast14(as mentioned earlier), and that crossbar transistor laying method ATi came up with that I can never remember the name of(the one that lays em in 45º angles instead of 90º)...

Meanwhile, ATi would get access to it's own fabs, SOI & SiGe silicon methods(Can you say FARRRR lower power consumption from ATi than NVidia?), be part of AMD's ibm partnership(which, alot of good has and still will come from, like SOI and SiGe)....

I'd call that an excellent business decision for both camps, wouldn't you?

As for Simply make sense, how does the above NOT make sense?


Your opinionshttp://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/Icons/shady.gif on this are pure speculation and you know it. This is all fabricated http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/Icons/quote-2-1.gif gap fillers http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/Icons/quote-2-1.gif to justify a monoplistic merger that never benefits the consumer. In reality time will tell but like I said before and I will say it again its never good for the consumer to be restricted into buying certain products. In doing so only encourage increased cost (or any monopoly like business practice for that matter). Again, from the responses I have read all sound like AMD fanboi bias to me...

[nn_step]

It's good for the consumer for 1 very large reason.

Cheaper videocards from ATi. Having AMD's fabs handle their cards will make ATi's price for making cards much cheaper. This will allow for lower prices, which I'm sure ATi would love to slap NVidia back for their low blow with the 7900gt at $299 or less.

Good business direction?
Simple yet again....
I said it earlier, ATi is the ONLY laptop motherboard maker for AMD afaik(shadowmage should know better than myself on that one). Ontop of that, ATi is the number 1 maker of MOBILE gpu's on the market. Walk around any best buy or other computer store and look at the laptops, most have a mobile radeon...

This would mean, for AMD, that even if someone buys an intel laptop, AMD would STILL make money off it due to intel's contract with ATi for gpu's for both desktop and laptops.

Also, ATi have a few good patents and licenses, like Fast14(as mentioned earlier), and that crossbar transistor laying method ATi came up with that I can never remember the name of(the one that lays em in 45º angles instead of 90º)...

Meanwhile, ATi would get access to it's own fabs, SOI & SiGe silicon methods(Can you say FARRRR lower power consumption from ATi than NVidia?), be part of AMD's ibm partnership(which, alot of good has and still will come from, like SOI and SiGe)....

I'd call that an excellent business decision for both camps, wouldn't you?

As for Simply make sense, how does the above NOT make sense?

1) AMD fabs are working at 100%, thus no room for ATi chips
2) you forget nVidia also holds a large part of the Laptop market but actually SiS has the dominate Share
3) If they wanted Fast14 they too can license it without having to deal with Ati
4) horrible idea because it will done eithier one of two things
a) Piss off nVidia and cause massive damage to AMD's best chipset friendship
b) ATi and nVidia begin working together 100%, killing off all Competition and being a HORRIBLE mistake for us Customers

[cadaveca]

Really, it DOESN't make sense...

but...

AMD suing Intel...others suing Intel...why do you think AMD is just sauntering around, and saying? we are focusing on the server market? They are gonna win thier case, no? And Intel is gonna pay?


Monopoly for the entire market? nah. Monopoly in performance? Possibly.

Face it. Computing has hit a slump. Newer...faster...better...who cares? Still the same old crap. Ageia offers something slightly new...but way to far out there to hit dominance anytime soon...like holographic displays.

From a developer's standpoint, more homogenous architechture may quite possibly make things much easier. Office/home needs are far different from server/farm needs...and if everyone would quit being so greedy and take thier fingers out of a couple of those pies out there, maybe they could pull off something fantastic by concentrating on one sole part of the market.:fact:

AMD excels in bandwidth and ATI in workstation graphics, IMHO. Intel and nVidia are in the home and gaming, thanks to invested dollars and deals with whitebox OEM's like Dell,HP,etc. as well as marketing :fact:

This seems to be what each company has wanted from the outset, so why can't they try?

[Eastcoasthandle]

Really, it DOESN't make sense...

but...

AMD suing Intel...others suing Intel...why do you think AMD is just sauntering around, and saying? we are focusing on the server market? They are gonna win thier case, no? And Intel is gonna pay?


Monopoly for the entire market? nah. Monopoly in performance? Possibly.

Face it. Computing has hit a slump. Newer...faster...better...who cares? Still the same old crap. Ageia offers something slightly new...but way to far out there to hit dominance anytime soon...like holographic displays.

From a developer's standpoint, more homogenous architechture may quite possibly make things much easier. Office/home needs are far different from server/farm needs...and if everyone would quit being so greedy and take thier fingers out of a couple of those pies out there, maybe they could pull off something fantastic by concentrating on one sole part of the market.:fact:

AMD excels in bandwidth and ATI in workstation graphics, IMHO. Intel and nVidia are in the home and gaming, thanks to invested dollars and deals with whitebox OEM's like Dell,HP,etc. as well as marketing :fact:

This seems to be what each company has wanted from the outset, so why can't they try?

To make everyone (force them) to conform to a singularity (used loosely) because "you think it's better for them" when in fact the current way we benefit from competition (lower prices and new innovation for example) is the best and only option for consumers. This will not only raise prices but limit consumer choose and encourage reductions in research and developement. Why? Because when you think you are right and everyone else is wrong why change? That would imply that your idea is flawed and that shows weakness. We can't have that now can we? An un-named business did that for years until they recently "saw the light". Again, dominating 1 culture over another because you think it's best for them...slavery...This thought process didn't work then and it won't work today.

Lets face it competition is healthy for the consumer, we have seen this proven time and time again with new technology at reduced price point (to name a few). When you remove this aspect of business from the market and replace it with "Homogeneous" synergy you are denying the consumer the basic freedom to choose so that you may profit from them (through market dominance).

Besides, this goes against a capitalistic market and converts it over to a communistic market. Wow, and you think we are not to know the difference between the 2? Profit driven companys want your business, they will reduce prices, compete with their competitors in the market, research and develop products that are better, etc.

And, what the likilhood that they will still outsource their chipsets, etc. That will baffle more people but I can see why they would do it and it rears its ugly "over" head...

And all this "drama" because they have no real competing CPU for C2D? What a shame...(IMO)

[cadaveca]

Um, consumer chooses with dollars. IF there is choice of one or none, then the choice should be none, if you cannot get what you want. I can't buy an electric car, so I have none. :fact:

I wasn't being literal...merely pointing out one side of the "story".

Frankly, i agree with ya, but i see stuff getting more expensive, not cheaper, as it should in your "ideal". Competition isn't lowering prices AT ALL.:fact:

All these companies screaming for the same pie...they should go and make a new one of thier own.

[Iconyu]

http://www.ocworkbench.com/ocwbcgi/newspro/viewnews.cgi?newsid1152063655,35448

If true, AMD could keep up with Intel. There are more reasons for AMD to make this move than not to.

[elec999]

Link seem dead.
Thanks

[dicecca112]

Error: Invalid start/end news items.

Doesn't work for me either

[cky2k6]

i bet you its about that anti-ht crap again.

[Ominous Gamer]

http://www.ocworkbench.com/ocwbcgi/newspro/viewnews.cgi?newsid1152063655,35448,

link was missing the final ,
its about the AMD buying parts of ATI.

While its intresting news, I don't see anything "big" coming. Maybe some better chipsets, maybe.

[informal]

What was it?

[akijikan]

I just can't trust this...AMD and NV are too buddy-buddy for this

[Reznik Akime]

I just can't trust this...AMD and NV are too buddy-buddy for this

For those who are conspiracy theorists, NV is coaxing AMD into buying parts of ATI then sell the rights to ATI's tech to NV! :eek:

Yeah, right. :rolleyes:

[OC Detective]

There is already a separate thread about this in this forum section

EDIT
Yeas it is.
Threads merged

[Iconyu]

Sorry, I'm still pretty new, I don't know my way around that well.

[uOpt]

I see room for this being limited to AMD's chipset division.

AMD has a semi-serious problem around chipsets in the professional sector. They only offered their own chipsets for socket 940, and they were underdeveloped at the end. AMD has taken a lot of fire for NVidia chipset's heat and driver problems.

In fact, people like me who think that AMD64 CPUs were pretty much ideal for a long time in computing history always bit2hed, whined and complained about chipsets. Now that I have a new Intel system I see that since I visited Intel last time nothing has changed - they do have the more solid chipsets with the better drivers (for several OSes).

AMD might buy ATI to get the chipset division and either not buy or split off the GPU section.

[nn_step]

I see room for this being limited to AMD's chipset division.

AMD has a semi-serious problem around chipsets in the professional sector. They only offered their own chipsets for socket 940, and they were underdeveloped at the end. AMD has taken a lot of fire for NVidia chipset's heat and driver problems.

In fact, people like me who think that AMD64 CPUs were pretty much ideal for a long time in computing history always bit2hed, whined and complained about chipsets. Now that I have a new Intel system I see that since I visited Intel last time nothing has changed - they do have the more solid chipsets with the better drivers (for several OSes).

AMD might buy ATI to get the chipset division and either not buy or split off the GPU section.
now let us be completely Honest.
For Intel Chipset performance is everything. If the Northbridge sucks. the Whole system will suck.
For AMD most of the performance is baked into the Processor. and thus the differnce in performance between a crappy Chipset (such as SiS) and a wonderful chipset (590 nVidia / 3200 ATi) Is very small.
If they honestly wanted an uberstable, well supported chipset. (perhaps also get the licenses to Intel's FSB while they are at it) They should buy Via instead.

[cky2k6]

lol, buy via for stability... they cant even write a decent driver...

[uOpt]

Via is actually fine and very stable in the AMD64 world (their socket A stuff sucked, though).

And the base speed of the Via chipsets is higher than NVidia. NVidia's chipsets just tend to end up in the boards that overclock better in the end, but at the same clocks the Via stuff is a little faster. Not that the difference matters much.

I don't know about the Via driver situation on Windoze but since Via (like Intel) gives useful and complete documentation about programming their chipsets, both Via and Intel chipsets have very good to excellent drivers for Linux and FreeBSD.

Problem in the AMD64 world of course is that there are no 939 boards built with Via chipsets that are not crippeled in the I/O department. Excellent workstation boards if you just want one dual-core AMD64 and 4 Gigs of RAM but bad if you need high network or disk bandwidth.

Of course there are no Via-based socket 940 boards at all, so in that world you are stuck with lame AMD chipsets and their boards or with NForce which gives you I/O plenty but puts you at the mercy of driver roulette.

[DilTech]

I STILL want to know where people are getting this "partial buy" or "buying parts of ati".

In no article posted thus far have anyone said anything about a partial buy-out. They've said buying ati or merging with ati, but never a "partial buyout".

We have NO reason to believe there will be a partial buy-out of ati, and some reason to believe there will be a full-blown buy-out of ati.

So, lets quit getting it confused, it's all(as in they buy ati) or nothing(which means they don't buy ati)....

No more said, case closed, end of discussion.

[uOpt]

They can still sell the GPU division and keep the chipset one.

Splitting up chip businesses is pretty popular these days and the chipset business is much more stable.

[nn_step]

They can still sell the GPU division and keep the chipset one.

Splitting up chip businesses is pretty popular these days and the chipset business is much more stable.
now that kind of depends on who you ask :rolleyes:

[Lightman]

Another rumors!

http://xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20060707020733.html

“On the July 4, a person close to the negotiations revealed that AMD has reached a purchase agreement with ATI, the news will soon be officially announced,� a news-story at Chinese web-site Sohu.com reads.

It's starting to be more and more certain :cool:

[Pinnacle]

Another rumors!

http://xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20060707020733.html



It's starting to be more and more certain :cool:

Huge!

[zakelwe]

But are these various reports a rehashing of the same story regurgitated ?

Regards

Andy